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what happened after the phase of their not being successful

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proletary revolutions, And even in the case of Lenin and Trotsky,

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there's significant evidence that they would have never been successful

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had they not had Western banking and corporate funding. People

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for like the Warburgs, the Shifts, and the Rockefellers were

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big supporters of the bullshit Revolution.

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it was originally you know, the World Economic Forum guys,

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but now it's Fabians. But it all interlinks.

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Speaker 1: This is institutional subversion and permeation that actually affected most

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of today's post World War two breton Wood systems. None

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of this could have actually been successful had there not

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been a faux conservative, faux right wing controlled opposition that

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acted as if they were in a battle with these people,

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but would always concede.

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Speaker 2: People can see it now. People always say about the

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civil service, judges, all of these very very important key

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parts of society now are being occupied. How do you

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go up against the beast like that when you have institutions,

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the civil service and absolutely everything dominated by this one

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think tank joining me to have a discussion all to

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do with the Fabians is author, comedian, orthodox apologist and

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writer for The Sam Hide Show, Jay Dyer. Jay, thank

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you so much for joining me. How are you, sir?

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Speaker 1: I'm Gray Lewis, glad to chat with you. I'm glad

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to be following you on Twitter. I have my buddies

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called my Attention to your feed and we've got people

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in the UK that are fans of you that are

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buddies of I'm so glad to connect with you and

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definitely always down to talk about this topic because it's

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it's overlooked and it's really important as one of the

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Speaker 2: Well that's that's amazing, man. I had no idea, so

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thank you very much for that. Yeah, lots to talk about.

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should we just start from like the beginning a bit

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of history. I mean, I bought myself this book called

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and it unfortunately it's in typewriter format, So yeah, through

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Speaker 1: Man. I did the same thing. I bought another a

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woman's book that's pretty famous on it, Rose Martin's book,

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and it ended up coming as this giant, like boomer

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are the what is the Fabian society? What are they

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got to go back to the origins of Marxist schisms

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to begin with, and the different groups and splits that

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essentially Marxism. Even prior to marx people look in the

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West at things like the Munster Rebellion as a form

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of early proto Marxism. People look to you'll come a

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fior as a kind of a proto communist. So there's

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there's earlier examples of communal living. Even the famed conspiracy

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personage Adam Weisschot did teach a form of communism. And

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figures known as the Jacobins, who were the radical side

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of the Reformation or the revolution. There. If you don't know,

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there was two to it. There's the Jacobins and the Grondins,

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after the revolution in France, but they're both revolutionary. The

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and they were the Jacobin communists. So there's quite a

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few communist groups and ideas before Karl Marx. But Marx,

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own owning class, the bluegeoisie, et cetera. But that didn't happen.

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were big supporters of the Bullshit Revolution. So really Marxism

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after this period was in kind of a stalled state.

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maybe we need to rethink the strategy. And so there's

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of the best on this that very few people know

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about or are aware of, And I would happy to

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have had a research or recommend this to me on

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Twitter just randomly. And it's called The Milner Fabian Conspiracy.

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It's actually like a five hundred page text. It's really

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good and it goes into basically the history of the

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Fabian society, particularly obviously in the UK, but also how

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they did link up with and connect with and support

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all the other socialist movements. So even though they didn't

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Lenin's wife and so forth, supporting the movement, even if

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they thought there might be better approaches. So what is

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the better approach? The idea is, let's reform Marxism and

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instead of this proletariat worker class who doesn't care about

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the obscure neologisms of Marxist theory. They're worried about getting

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on lunch break. They're not interested in overthrowing the means

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of the corporate structure to take control of the means

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of production. Let's focus on recruiting wealthy people to fund

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of reformed Marxism or capitalist friendly Marxism. And this was

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seen as a much better approach, not just for optics

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consistent in their call for radical social Darwinism, the creation

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of a new Man. All non socialists eventually should perish.

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these people were also connected to and thought the idea

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of Marx's secret society model could also work as well.

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of planning things in secret. And here's the big, key,

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essential thing about Fabian society is doing things in slow

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motion rather than trying to do a fast, overt, bloody revolution.

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infiltrate and penetration and subversion is one of their phrases,

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we could get a lot more done than this overt model.

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very wealthy industrialists and capitalists, very powerful nobility as well.

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Lord Milner becomes one of their chief supporters. I would

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a supporter. And this doesn't necessarily mean that everybody within

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these groups agrees on every single thing. But the Fabians

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Labor Party. So the Labor Party is really named after

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this whole idea. It used to be the Fabian ideology,

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but they renamed it as Labor to sound like they

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cared about the workers. But this is exactly why they

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have really this radical policy to which again the Labor

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overlook that was really ahead of its time that raw

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to You talks about in his book was that they

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the st reality in the public as a form of art.

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bloody ideologies of the marks the radical you know, Lennon

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the revolution would eventually have to die. You know. George

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very overtly explicit in that that most white people would

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oldest think tank. It's got nothing to do with radical change.

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lightich that has been happening for decades and decades to

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like the world sucks at the minute. It's been one

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in politics as it is, and there is obviously always

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crosses over. So what do you say then, to let's

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they're in this quite hedonistic, horrific, sort of necessarily secret

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subversion and long term radical goals. So really those claims

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very accessible history of the Fabian Society. For example, some

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huge supporter of this whole movement, as well as a

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erection of this sort of future technocratic socialist depopulation agenda,

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the bringing in of Islam into the UK very very

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all these people, they talk about destroying the indigenous people

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importation of foreign and specifically Islamic groups originally. And it's

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fascinating because early on in the text, the Ratu texts,

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a little more ecumenical, and they're more you know, syncretists,

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other religions and systems like neoplatonism and they're mystical. But

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that actually set up the first pro Islamic think tank

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organization in the UK that then began to bring other

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Islamic groups to where now we get Sidiq Khan and

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people who are a Fabian socialist Islamic Ish, you know Mayor.

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can even find it on their website out like saying

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that he was a chair executive along with a very

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famous judge in the UK, Lord Hermer, who has you know,

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represented all sorts of people such as Shemima Begum and

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you know Jerry Adams, all of these characters. Another thing

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that's that's been brought up a lot. The first time

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I heard about the Fabians was someone posted the infamous

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flag and that is the wolf in sheep's clothing, and

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they later changed it to I believe the turtle. The

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slow incrementation of their ideology. What do you know about

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the flag? What do you know about its origins and

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how it came to be? I don't suppose you could

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explain a little bit about that if possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also another symbol that's lesser known.

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Speaker 1: He has a picture of it in this book somewhere

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as trying to find it. It's a picture of the

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a forge a new heart. I don't know if you've

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seen that. That's that's essentially supposed to be the It's

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it's religious imagery taken and put into this sort of

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atheistic context. Uh. And it's you know, it's kind of

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like the the idea of the new Man that you

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the new social man again, which is really borrowing here.

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window is called through the world through Fabian eyes, and

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it illustrates the world reconstruction project.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Let me read this really briefly. Hear what Ratia says

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about the wolf clothing in this image. She says as

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if to confirm the subversive nature of Fabians. George Bernard

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Shaw on nineteen ten commissioned to stained glass window from

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showing from left or right, Fabian leaders Edward PA's, Sidney

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Webb and Shaw himself forging out of the world of

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the old as the other Fabians kneel and worship the

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which is intended to be humorous, and attitudes towards their

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writings elevated as if they were divine scripture and divine

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writ and portraying a cult like nature of socialism and

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the Fabian society. Intection, in particular making socialism and Fabianism

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into a religious movement. And it says the windows motto

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is remold the world nearer to the heart's desire, citing

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the medieval Iranian poet Omar Khayam. And then there's this

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long Islamic thing, and then it says Fabians would plan

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then to destroy and then reconstruct all of society according

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to their image. And thus the other image that they

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told chose was a coat of arms of a wolf

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in sheep's clothing holding the red flags with FS or

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Fabian Society, which is now still in existence but located

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at the London School of Economics. So none of this

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has gone away. Here's the stained glass window with the

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three founders in this sort of religious cult like imagery.

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isn't just some random group of obscure you know, intellectuals

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and poet want to bees. This is institutional subversion and

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permeation that actually affected most of today's post World War

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two breton Wood system. So when we talk about everything

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from the United Nations, well, the League of Nations and

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the United Nations, they were both founded with open Fabian

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socialist ideology. The World Council, Churches, the Aspen Institute, NATO,

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the IMF, the World Bank, on and on and on.

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They are all suffused with and literally headed up by

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open members of the Fabian society committed to this ideology.

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which is the predecessor to the CIA, they were headed

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up by Baby and socialists. The very beginning of British

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intelligence in terms of Y five also Fabian socialism. So

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that's how influential this is, even to the point of

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US presidents Woodrow Wilson, under which we get the Federal Reserve.

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Speaker 2: It's just insane. I mean, you do see a lot

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of overlap, you know. I think you mentioned earlier a

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particular line very similar to the klau Schwab World Economic

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Forum penetrate the cabinets is very similar language where it's

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almost it's the slow like they obviously say themselves, the

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slow incrementation, but also it's a takeover, is what it is,

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and they're not shy about it. Another thing that I've

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noticed that's very that overlaps a lot is a lot

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of esoteric stuff that the Fabians are very into what

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do you know a bit more about with regards to

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esoteric stuff that the Fabians believed? What is it that?

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Because you because you know quite a lot about the

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esoteric side of things, You've done things on like Hollywood

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and various other topics.

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Speaker 1: But what commute this is a really really equally important

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point because you actually can't get away from what we

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call the New Age movement, which post nineteen sixties in

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the US really encompasses everything from crystals to yoga, to

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transcendental meditation, to gurus, you name it. All of that

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stuff that comes out of the nineteen sixties movement in

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the US was actually pre dated and promulgated decades earlier

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by you got it, Fabian socialist Madam Blovatski, the founder

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of the religious syncrotous cult called Theosophy. There's a great

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article by a history of espionage scholar doctor Richard Spence

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about Theosophy's connection to intelligence operations as well. He argues,

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and it looks fairly substantially true that Blovatski was probably

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some degree working as an intelligence operative, and so her

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secret teaching missions that she would do to these other

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countries were also probably going to meet with for example

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KGB Operatives. So I've sent this article on a link

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it below, But that's because on a broader scale, there

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was tremendous support from the Rothchields and from the other

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Fabians to push this free love message, not in the

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nineteen sixties, but through Fabians in nineteen o seven. The

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Fabians were pushing open relationships, pan community, whatever you want

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to call that. In nineteen o seven, in fact, I

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mentioned that BS Theality art that was intentionally a Satanic construct.

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Let me see what he says about this. He says,

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behind the widely acknowledged talent of some of the Fabian

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artists who actually lurked a dark secret for their deviant instincts,

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this all Parbadian Fabian hold on society meant that the

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works of art like Gil produced a Fabian predict practitioner

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of pdf I, n Cest and Bes the Reality would

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make their way into respectable institutions like the London Electric Railway,

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the BBC, the League of Nations and even inside Westminster Cathedral.

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So notice this isn't modern day New York MoMA Museum

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of Modern Art MoMA, where they have degenerate, disgusting art.

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This is nineteen like seven. So they were way hut

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of the curve with satanic art and explicitly satanic art

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one hundred years before everybody else, paving the way, not

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just with all of the new age of cult type

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stuff with Blovatsky, Bailey, bassant the Three Witches of the

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United Nations right, all of whom, by the way, we're

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Fabian socialists. They were also preparing the way for the,

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as we said, aesthetic attack on art. Other individuals associated

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include people like Gerdjeff the self help guru and he

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says here leading Fabians like any bassant Ar Orange Clement

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Attlee also joined Masonic lodges with the idea of promoting

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Fabianism through Freemason. The alternative numents of these times, like Theosophy,

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and even g I Gurgia's Fourth Way became associated with

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and promoted UH Fabian socialism. And I want to say

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even the Yeah, remember the Scottish National Party some years

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back that was gaining attention for UH news attraction news

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traction related to Brexit and all that kind of stuff

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that that they're not saying there before it, but they were.

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They were in the news at that time. They also

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believe are a Fabian socialist institution.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. It's funny you mentioned Clement Attlee because he was

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considered a darling on the left wing in the Labor Party,

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I believe, and I want to just triple check this

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obviously preceded by Winston Churchill straight after. I believe he

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was the one that set up the National Health Service

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as well. I believe it was Clement Atlee otherwise.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that sounds right, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, let's go with that.

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Speaker 1: The saying people were behind the US or the UK

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setting up their social security system, which was prior to

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the US establishing it I think under FDR, and it

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bankrupted the UK and the UK had to get loans

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from the US via FDR, who then put the same

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security system into the US, all of which are just

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versions of socialism.

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Speaker 2: And when we talk about things like well, to be fair,

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I mean it says on the tin you mentioned Rothschild,

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So of course funding isn't necessarily an issue there. But

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I'm thinking more sort of modern sense because I guess

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being the oldest think tank in Britain set up by

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these particular guys p's and all the rest of it,

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I think now when you look at the modern point

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of the Fabian societies. What keeps it going, I believe

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is things like other NGOs charities, but also people like

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Sadiq Kahan and others that have been chaired and or

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Chelsea Ane Tony Blair massive example as well. I mean

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that guy. The amount of skeletons in that man's closets unbelievable. Yeah,

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in terms of funding and things like that, is is

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that something do you think is more obtainable now or

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or not necessarily? I know it sounds like a very

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bizarre question, but.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine the funding still comes from all these

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same types of entities, you know, the Rockefellers, the Rothchild's.

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he early on, when he was doing his grad work,

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studied under von Hayek, the famous you know, libertarian economic theorist,

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the liberal theorist. But then when he went on to

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do more advanced studies, he studied under the most Faban

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the most famous Fabian socialist economists in the US, Harold Lasky.

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And Rockefeller then seems to have been committed to this

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ideology more so than the you know, the libertarian ideology

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and I'm not I have criticisms of classical liberalism as well,

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but this is definitely going in a worse direction when

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when he chooses to really support these types of ideas

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and systems, and so I would say that not too

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long after, you know, Rockefeller's committal to this, you get

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in the US, we had these hearings called the Recee

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Committee hearings and the Race Committee hearings were investigating the

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big foundations in the US, like the Rockefeller Foundation, the

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Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, et cetera, because all these

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foundations had a similar approach, which was to put tons

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of money into leftist socialist causes such as this. So

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this has really been going and what they found was

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it was the case, and then of course nothing was done.

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you see people, you know, brought up to government hearings

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and congressional hearings, and it's like it's like a show,

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kind of like they do this hubbub and there's all

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this media gibberish and then nothing happens, nobody gets in trouble.

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It's just sort of like, Okay, well this happened. So likewise,

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I don't think this has ever ceased. And I would

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say it's all these same usual suspects, and that's because

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these are the suspects that originally set up these institutions,

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especially in the US. What happened was when these fabian

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social institutions are set up in the UK, everything as

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we said, from the London School of Economics to Chatham House,

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et cetera, and eventually the great British universities also ended

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up kind of moving into being engines of this. Whether

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it's Eton or Oxford or Cambridge, they're all really the

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same ideological structure here in terms of the power brokers.

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Maybe not every professor, but you know, the overall power

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structure running things. So what happens is in the US

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the elites in the US decide to kind of mirror

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this called the Eastern Seaboard establishment. The rock Offer family

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at at the forefront of this sets up in the

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New York Pratt House, which is supposed to be the

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model for Chatham House. It's the New York version of

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Chatham House in the UK, and that spawns things like

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the Council for Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the

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eventually Builderberg. All of which all share this same Fabian

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socialist ethos. Again, even if not every individual espouses this,

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that's the overriding ideology. And one way to see that

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is to look at their chosen economist of choice, the

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elite chosen economist of all the Fabians, he's their premier

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is John Mayner Kines Keynesian economics, which dominates twentieth century,

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which dominates academia throughout the world and the West, is

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a Fabian socialist exercise. So that explains the whole monetary principle,

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the whole support the whole system. And you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: See I was going to say in terms of roles

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of the political landscape. But we know, especially in the

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UK and the US as well most of the Western hemisphere. Now,

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over this incremental period since World War Two, we have

475
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seen many institutions from like you mentioned the BBC universities,

476
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all of these big conglomerate institutions, Oxford Union, all of

477
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,039
these places have almost been well you can call it

478
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:48,839
infiltrated by this same society now and people can see

479
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,160
it now. People always say about the civil service, judges,

480
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:56,839
all of these very very important key parts of society

481
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now being occupied by this particular society. So I guess

482
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I don't want to. I don't want to be a

483
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:08,720
black pillar obviously, because you know black, you should never blackpill.

484
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:12,920
But for me, how do you how do you reconcile

485
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with a beast like that? How do you how do

486
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,880
you what am I trying to say? How do you

487
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,119
go up against a beast like that? When you have institutions,

488
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,400
the civil service and absolutely everything dominated by this one

489
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,319
think tank that is a you know, as well as

490
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:36,119
a secret not so secret society, like, how how do

491
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,440
you go up against some beast like that? I mean,

492
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it's almost impossible.

493
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Speaker 1: Right, right, It's definitely a juggernaut. But the weak point

494
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is that it's very difficult to make it work. And

495
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so the its weakest point is that it actually always fails, okay,

496
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:58,680
and it's kind of intended to fail, right, I mean,

497
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it's actually the long term purpose is to put into

498
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:08,279
place actual policies that bankrupt the nation, that steal from pensioners,

499
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,519
that steal the value of the currency over time through

500
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inflation and money printing, and all the caynesy and ideas.

501
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,880
It's a very especially with Canes, it's a war based economy.

502
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Since it's not a production based economy. They will always

503
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,960
promote war, even though they're supposedly leftists or whatever. That's

504
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,079
all really a front. So as they said, here all

505
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,160
facts considered bringing the entirety of the society under state control.

506
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,680
Now this is George Bernardshaw himself talking about how Labor

507
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would be the front for a total control via the

508
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Fabian Society operating from behind the scenes with Labor as

509
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:54,559
a democratic front. So it's a frontispiece. It's a cloak

510
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:59,519
they wear of populism, but it's actually an extremely elitist,

511
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:03,599
you know, wealth based monitorist club you could say, even

512
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,920
eventually committed to kind of you know, mass murder and

513
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,279
depopulation actually according to the real ethos. So that's I

514
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think one of the weak points that it has is

515
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that if people can see that number one of the

516
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,079
policies don't actually work. They're consistently destructive. And you know,

517
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I noticed, you guys had three million people marching. They

518
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,480
don't all know about the Fabian Society, but they noticed

519
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:32,599
that the Fabian Society policies seem to wreck things very well,

520
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,279
and it's almost like maybe they're wrecking it on purpose.

521
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,079
But the other weak points I think would be that,

522
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you know, a lot of evil points people back in

523
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,960
the direction of things that are good. Yes, So I

524
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think that in terms of Orthodox Christianity, solid you know,

525
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:59,240
tradition minded people are making a resurgence because they see

526
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how destructive and evil all of this stuff is. Especially, yeah, exactly,

527
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,480
and I think we're people are beginning to understand that

528
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,840
the whole twentieth century, it's myths, it's narratives, the post

529
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Bretton Wood's system of the dollar as a reserve, world

530
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:21,159
reserve currency, all of that mythology is beginning to collapse.

531
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,519
And so that's actually a good thing because that means

532
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a lot of the institutions and things built up as

533
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:28,599
a result of it, whether it's the IMF or the

534
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,239
World Bank or any of this kind of stuff, or

535
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,599
the mainstream media, et cetera. That's legacy stuff is going

536
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:39,239
to be collapsing. And Trajan Hote, which the Ratua book

537
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actually is, it relies significantly early on for with traj

538
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,760
you hope, Trajan up has a lot of also key

539
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,320
insights into this network, this group, And as you get

540
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,760
to about the middle of the book, if you ever

541
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,039
find the time to read it, and not use specific

542
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,079
but anybody because it's a massively dry technical read this

543
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:02,000
thirteen hundred page but you know he talks about this

544
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:03,960
in the in the middle of the book as the

545
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:08,800
Parabos Rothschild's banking system, and that's what's the locust and

546
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,599
the heart of all of this. Even the Fabian society

547
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:18,320
couldn't really function without this massive support from these money

548
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,320
to oligarchical elites and industrialists. And so I would say

549
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,559
this might sound a little out there, but things that

550
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,719
are alternatives and oppositions to this system, like bitcoin are

551
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,440
actually one of the ways to step outside of this,

552
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,079
just in an economic sense, so that you've got the

553
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,719
spiritual that people are waking up to and you've also

554
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,360
got the economic alternatives. Gold is what everybody used to think,

555
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,519
but I mean the Rothchilds have massive wealth and control

556
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:51,320
of the gold market, rock fillers as many many of

557
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,960
these families are very adept at manipulating the gold market.

558
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,000
It's a lot harder to manipulate something like like bitcoins.

559
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:01,360
I would say economically big coin is something that's an

560
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,519
affront to this system. This is why, for example, the

561
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:08,960
IMF says any country in the IMF cannot have a

562
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gold standard, and thus by extension, as they told El Salvador,

563
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they want El Salvador off of a bitcoin center because

564
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,159
it's digital goal. So those are the economic ways that

565
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:25,679
people can fight back against this the spiritual and then

566
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,360
it's probably a little bit difficult in the UK, but

567
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,760
like here in the US, we have a much larger

568
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,079
land mass. It's very and really it's the same system.

569
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:40,360
You know, we just had this Fabian socialist, I think

570
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,639
he's a Fabian social based some kind of the socialist

571
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,840
Muslim guy in New York, Mamdani. So we're getting the

572
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,559
same thing happening in the US. We're getting mosques built

573
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,960
all over the US. So I think that, you know,

574
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,840
people need to move out of these basically democratic socialists

575
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,280
run cities, find land in the countryside, and you're much

576
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,000
better off.

577
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Speaker 2: With regards to the opposition. When you when we talk

578
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about let's say British politics, you've obviously you've of course

579
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,159
heard this before. The UNI Party they call it where

580
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the trust from both parties is completely diminished and that

581
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,480
both parties seem to enact the same agenda. From the

582
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:25,480
Tory Party to obviously the Labor Party is there crossover

583
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:29,480
do you think with the Fabian Society and of course

584
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the quote unquote Conservative Party as a whole, is their

585
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,519
crossover or has the Fabian Society been like the sort

586
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:42,280
of umbrella and it's created other like you mentioned, the

587
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,400
Trilateral Commission is a massive one. Builderberg is another one

588
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:51,639
that people talk about is that kind of has the

589
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:54,920
Fabians been like the top umbrella and then underneath that

590
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,639
it's created ones that are more I hate the works.

591
00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:02,960
It's cursed but inclusive, like to like the conservativele Tory

592
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:04,840
Party that it sort of molds together.

593
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Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, Ratio has a good chapter where he

594
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,639
talks about how none of this could have actually been

595
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:15,519
successful had there not been a faux conservative, faux right

596
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:19,440
wing controlled opposition that acted as if they were in

597
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,239
a battle with these people but would always concede. And

598
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,360
we have the exact same thing. Of course in the

599
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,400
US we've had, you know, the Republican Party, which for

600
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,519
so many decades is really just the neo conservative Zionist

601
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:37,880
party and it plays the role of conservative and you know,

602
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,800
now we're to the point where, oh, well we have

603
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,840
to be big tent conservativism and have you know trans

604
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,880
you know, trans politicians and all this like this is

605
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,800
where we So you know that's by design absolutely, and

606
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,480
that itself is part of the Fabian dialectical control model,

607
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,000
where you have a false debates, false opposition, and usual

608
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:07,320
people that are significant real opposition are filtered out. It's

609
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,639
very difficult, you know, to get into politics without money,

610
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,440
whether it's in the US or the UK. So I

611
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,440
think that a lot of a lot of this is

612
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,920
done through you know, monetary control and backing. And I

613
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,199
mean there's it's difficult to say with Trump to what

614
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,679
degree we you know, are actually dealing with It's just

615
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,880
a mess. But I mean I think that even Trump

616
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,159
kind of is afraid of Israeli power, Zion's power, and

617
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,760
Zion's power is not antithetical to what we're talking about.

618
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,719
In fact, I was just looking at Moses Hess, and

619
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,280
you know, if you read Moses Hess's early books on

620
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:55,039
Rome and Jerusalem, he's talking about Zionism in eighteen sixty two.

621
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,559
So this is something planned way before the modern nation

622
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state of Israel came to be, or even way before

623
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:09,400
the Balfour Declaration, and the early Zionists were all socialists.

624
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So whether it's Herzel or Hess or heim Weitzmann. These

625
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,519
people are also socialists. So no, there's nothing anti. There's

626
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:20,559
no because I talk about it. Well, you won't talk

627
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,360
about Jews, you talk about the Fabians. It's like these

628
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,159
all are the same allied entities that pushed the same

629
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,320
revolutionary philosophies, so they're not antithetically all work together. Anyway,

630
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,719
I already forgot what the question was.

631
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: Apologies, it was the the Tory pozi.

632
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:42,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the fake the fake left right, Yeah.

633
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

634
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Speaker 1: I think this has been known since. In fact, I

635
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,320
overlooked Spinoza. I mean I was pretty aware of Hegel

636
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,760
and Hegel's philosophy and influence, but actually Moses has talks

637
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,559
about important uh Spinosa was and a lot of that philosophy,

638
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:02,199
whether it's Spinoza or eventually Heel, it's all based on dialectics,

639
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000
and thus the idea that well, if we can control

640
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:09,119
both sides of the dialectic, that's a key way to

641
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:12,159
have control. And we see that obviously with you know,

642
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,320
conservatives and liberals and pretty much everything since the French Revolution,

643
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,400
I would argue, is a you know, it's the French

644
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,199
revolutionary attass General Tennis Court between the left and the right,

645
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,360
the fake left picked right.

646
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, well, I think I think we've covered quite

647
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,280
a lot. I'm trying to think there's anything else to

648
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,199
add that we've not already covered.

649
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: He does talk about again, you know, quite a bit

650
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of the usefulness in the Ratua book, which I recommend

651
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:49,199
everybody read, of how they imported Muslims. They really saw

652
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,679
that as a successful operation, again planned one hundred ish

653
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,239
years ago or more. But also groups like Antifa actually

654
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,320
spring out of Fabian socialists. We think of that as something. Yeah,

655
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,679
many of the let me, I'll read this. The Fabian's

656
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,440
National Union of Students have been linked with far left

657
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:15,519
organizations like Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, Anti Fascist Action

658
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:19,639
and even the IRA connected Red Action, which advocated for

659
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,840
socialism through terror, increasingly together with radical Islamic student societies

660
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:31,159
with links to Islamic terror. That's RATU on page one

661
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,239
twenty one. So a lot of the ideas, even things

662
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,519
like social justice, come out of some of these Fabian

663
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:38,559
socialist ideologues.

664
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's that is very unsurprising, you know, considering

665
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:48,760
what they have been like over the past however many years,

666
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:51,559
so it doesn't surprise met A lot of the times

667
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:55,119
when people So when I go out and do things

668
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:57,840
like freedom of information requests in the UK, is try

669
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,960
and uncover a lot of information from institutions or government departments.

670
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:05,400
A big question that comes up is all to do

671
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:08,239
with the protest movements on the far left, people like

672
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,199
stand up to racism. You know what Antiva is its

673
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,960
own sort of conglomerate anyway, but you know, stand up

674
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,320
to racism. All these guys that are being funded allegedly

675
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,119
by people like the Labor Party and that kind of

676
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:27,039
inner circle. So you can always see and draw like

677
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:32,320
the lines between each one. And it seems, I mean,

678
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,480
correct me if I'm wrong, it seems to just connect

679
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:39,000
back to this same particular society absolutely.

680
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, this ideology, even if the society itself isn't

681
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,760
directly controlling everything or everybody this ideology. Again, you know,

682
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,480
John ner Kenes wasn't in the Fabian Society, but he's

683
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:57,480
the chosen official economist of the Fabian Society. So you know,

684
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,599
Bertrand Russell I think was only a member for a

685
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:02,480
very short time. But it doesn't really matter because all

686
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:08,519
of the ideology that they promote is essentially compatible. You know,

687
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:13,039
Bill Clinton third Way proponent, just like Tony Blair. That's

688
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:17,440
all the same thing as fabian socialst ideology. So I

689
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,039
put up a thing from an article that was posted

690
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:25,039
a while back on info Wars, and it was a

691
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:29,119
list of the dozens and dozens of just in the

692
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,639
US leftists, NGOs, think tanks, foundations that all network and

693
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:40,119
coordinate together to help and to promote and to indoctrinate

694
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:46,519
what are supposedly these organic leftist movements, demonstrations, revolutions, et cetera.

695
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,519
And of course there's countless of them. But what I

696
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:53,440
was pointing out was simply that in the US, and

697
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,840
the same in your country, we're not really going to

698
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:02,320
see actual change until we realize that these politician grifters

699
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,519
come and go right, these boobs get voted in and

700
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,320
voted out. But what doesn't change and doesn't go away

701
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:12,320
is the dozens and dozen hundreds of NGOs, think thanks

702
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,760
and foundations, and really that's going to have to be

703
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:20,599
uprooted before there's significant significant change, even above the politicians.

704
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, especially NGO's charities. That's a massive thing. In

705
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:31,840
the UK, as an example, the Home Office that supposedly

706
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,199
manages our immigration system and keeps track of who's coming

707
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in and out the country, putting through an FOI to them.

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00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:44,159
They gave me the list of charities from twenty twenty

709
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:49,360
to twenty twenty four ones that have had consultations with

710
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:57,519
the Home Office with regards to basically involved with illegal migration.

711
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,599
And it gave you the list of each charity in

712
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:03,880
each NGO and even law law firms as well that

713
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,679
were involved. And it doesn't strike me as it doesn't

714
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:14,760
strike me as weird that all of these are connected somehow, No,

715
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,320
not at all.

716
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,639
Speaker 1: In fact, my suspicion that I was just talking about

717
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:23,079
on the interview or forth Africa what. But my suspicion

718
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:27,800
is that a lot of the NGO leftist complex there's

719
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,159
a lot more integrated and a lot more coordinated than

720
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:35,719
we tend to expect. And also a lot of this

721
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,719
is funded with our tax money. So again they're socialists,

722
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,960
so they have no problems stealing and using the tax

723
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,360
money against the population because they're not actually populous. They're

724
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,679
anti populous. In fact, the WF I remember a couple

725
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:53,039
of years ago, during the big sigh out from twenty

726
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:56,639
twenty that we all underwent, they were putting up articles

727
00:46:56,679 --> 00:47:02,559
saying that the future threat is uh evil populism right

728
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:07,440
the e the people basically is the problem. So yeah,

729
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,519
so they're going to steal taxpayer money utilize it for

730
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:16,400
these operations, for these NGOs and whatnot. And I suspect

731
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,639
they're much more coordinated. In fact, I think I was

732
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:20,800
looking at some stats the other day and it was

733
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,119
something like, there's in the world around one million uh inngos,

734
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:29,239
think tanks and foundations that exist to you know, push

735
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,119
to lobby, to do all whatever do they do, and

736
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,760
uh ninety ninety five percent of them are leftist. So

737
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,840
so all of that money is coming from these elites.

738
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,800
They run the money printer, they run you know, the

739
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,239
ir S, the you know, Federal Reserve, they run all that.

740
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,239
They print the money and they can just I guess,

741
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:57,119
infinitely fund this giant scam machine that they have. Speaking

742
00:47:57,159 --> 00:48:00,800
of another one of these socialist minded individuals, there was,

743
00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:07,199
according to to Quickly in his other book, Angle American Establishment,

744
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,000
the Calergy Plan, which is a real thing. I have

745
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:16,199
his book here. It's called Practical Idealism, in which he

746
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,199
says that the existing stock of the European nations, including

747
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:25,559
the UK, need to be destroyed and bred out just

748
00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:28,639
in sight, just inside exactly. And people say it's a

749
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:31,159
conspiracy through it's in his freaking book, like I've gotten

750
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:33,960
the book. We've talked about it for years. But Quickly

751
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,079
even says that, and he quickly is not a conspiracy

752
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,760
is for those that don't know. He was Bill Clinton's mentor.

753
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,840
He is an apologist for this system, so he's not

754
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,440
a conspiracy person. He's a promoter of it. On page

755
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,760
two eighty four, Quickly says that there were two plans

756
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,440
that were adopted by the Role Society in the nineteen thirties,

757
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:59,599
one of which was Bord Lionel Curtis's Commonwealth of God

758
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:05,880
plan and accepted by the Roundtable Group. The other plan

759
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:10,760
that they heard and accepted was the Colergy plan. So

760
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,719
the Fabian socialist plan that we are all living under

761
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,920
is a combination of Curtis's Commonwealth of God, which is

762
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:26,079
basically the Rhodes Ruskin style world socialist model, and the

763
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:30,840
Colergy plan of Count Kunhav Colergy to destroy the existing

764
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,320
European people groups. And actually, if you read nineteen eighty four,

765
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:41,760
as Ratu discusses when he talks about Big Brother in

766
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,519
ingsok ingsok is the Fabian socialist.

767
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,599
Speaker 2: Yes, I have heard that before. I have heard that before.

768
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:55,400
That is written on behalf or like a kind of

769
00:49:55,679 --> 00:49:57,079
just like a mimic of that.

770
00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:04,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he understood and what the driving ethos of

771
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:07,320
British intelligence and the elite power structure was. That's why

772
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,840
he wrote the book. And he was afraid he was

773
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,400
going to be killed for it too, by the way.

774
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:13,119
Speaker 2: Right, that's it. I've got the thing up here. Sorry.

775
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:17,320
It's the structured list of non governmental organizations and charities

776
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,320
that were formerly engaged by the Home Office in relation

777
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,840
to asylum accommodation policies between twenty twenty to twenty twenty four,

778
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,599
including the type of engagement and years of involvement. So

779
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:33,480
this is ones like Micro Rainbow, the nac COM, British

780
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:41,079
Red Cross, Refugee Action, Asylum Matters, Scottish Refugee Council, which

781
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:47,639
is a very historic one, ASAP, Asylum Support, Appeals, Freedom Culture,

782
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,800
all of these guys, Migrant Help. I mean, the list

783
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,039
goes on and on, but it seems to me that

784
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:57,000
there is a kind of you can draw the line,

785
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,320
as we were saying, you can draw the line between

786
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,719
them and where either funding and coordination comes from.

787
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:10,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the whole purpose of multiculturalism. In fact,

788
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,559
Ratia's book goes on in the later chapters to discuss

789
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:19,400
the connection between multicult Islamicization and the destruction of Europe

790
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,960
by design. And this is the thing is like, oh,

791
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,519
it's the incompetent politician. They're not incompetent. Well, many of

792
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,320
the politicians are incompetent by the people in this structure

793
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,079
running these indios think thanks foundations, et cetera. They're not incompetent.

794
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,719
They know what they're doing.

795
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 2: I was going to actually ask you that question as

796
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,920
a final question. People. A lot of the time people

797
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,480
say incompetency or a gender based. I believe it's a

798
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:49,800
bit of both, but it's mostly a gender base because

799
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,320
you don't get these wets that just come through politics.

800
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:58,159
They have this false equivalence of how do I explain it?

801
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:01,280
They they're almost it's like groomed. It reminds me of

802
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,039
the Young Global Leader scheme. You know, it's almost like

803
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:11,800
a corporate grooming systems years ago to do some reporting

804
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,360
on the ground and to you know, doorstep a few people,

805
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,480
which was really fun. When we're out there, and you know,

806
00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:20,880
looking around, you had all these shots. You had Palenteer,

807
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,239
like all these stand up shops that they would erect

808
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,599
just before Davos, like the world you can get together

809
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:31,039
and talk, and they would really just promote, promote, promote,

810
00:52:31,039 --> 00:52:34,599
meta you know, Palenteer Like, I've just mentioned all of

811
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:38,320
these big sort of organizations that are in bed or

812
00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:45,039
coordinate with these United Nations world And the only thing

813
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,960
I can think is is corporate grooming. That's the only

814
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:56,400
way to really try to what should I say? It's

815
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,679
the only really way to try and describe it. So

816
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,920
what would I guess? The quest I should going back,

817
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,800
what do you actually believe that is? Do you believe

818
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,639
that it's more a gender base than incompetency or is

819
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:12,039
there an overlap? Like what's your take on that.

820
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,199
Speaker 1: There's a layer of idiots and ideologues and it quickly

821
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,480
mentions them in both of his books they're called the helpers,

822
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,400
and the helpers don't know the big plan. They're just

823
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,960
idea logues recruited out of college. Corporate grooming like you're

824
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,679
talking about there, but at the top people are running

825
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,960
the international banking groups, the hedge funds, et cetera. Many

826
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:36,559
of these people do know what's going on. For example,

827
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,719
right to you at the end of the book has

828
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:45,000
several sort of structured appendices that he explains that he

829
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:47,280
thinks explain this very well. So, for example, here you

830
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:54,840
have one that is it's hard to get the can't

831
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,639
forget what I'm doing here. So you've got banking structure

832
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:01,159
up there at the top, and then you've got Fabian

833
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,960
Society funded by them, and then you've got these other

834
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:09,920
lower level institutions and on the ground sort of student stuff.

835
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,960
So in that sense, no, it's definitely ideological, and in fact,

836
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:18,519
the latter part of the book works through a bunch

837
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:23,079
of the United Nations programs that are intent on implementing

838
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:27,480
these ideas and these principles, which clearly are not therewith

839
00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:34,559
forethought they are planned. Here's another structure that he gives

840
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:43,519
of banking in industry, Rockefeller, Rothschild, underneath them things like

841
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:46,800
black rock esg all that kind of stuff, and then

842
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:50,920
lobbying and philanthropy and then the think tanks, etc. So

843
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,679
these kinds of lists, I think help sort of explain

844
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,920
kind of the overall structure of this system and how

845
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,880
it works. So I think all of these things are

846
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:09,239
at the top at least definitely self aware and colluding

847
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,119
by design. Again, I mean, there's so many books and

848
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:15,960
so many admissions that it's hard to believe that there's

849
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,119
not a lot of design and plan. However, not everybody knows, right,

850
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:23,719
You've got a lot of people, you know, taking the

851
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,199
US for example. You know, I've met a lot of people,

852
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:28,360
interview a lot of people, talk to high power people.

853
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,800
I think very few know this full game plan. And

854
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,880
I'm not trying to brag or to my own horn,

855
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,639
but why is that? Well, very few people are going

856
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,519
to sit and read this, right, Who's going to read

857
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:45,239
Tragic and Hope?

858
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: Right?

859
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:48,599
Speaker 1: Not many people. How many people are going to read

860
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,920
there's a big new Brazenski's books, Kissing Your Stuff, rocket Foot,

861
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,280
Not very many. So I think that you actually have

862
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,760
to kind of get to the level of someone like

863
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:02,320
a Brazenski or a Kissinger to find the people that

864
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,599
know and discuss the whole game plan. If you're talking

865
00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:09,159
to some twenty five year old college goober that's recruited

866
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:11,880
into you know, Davos or something, he doesn't know all

867
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,320
those no, of.

868
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 2: Course not And same with the general public as well well.

869
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,199
I feel bad for the person that wanted to know

870
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:24,800
about the Fabian society clicked on this video and then

871
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:28,000
was inundated with so much information.

872
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,119
Speaker 1: That's Look, this is the best book so far. I

873
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:33,519
highly recommend this one. And this one's more up to

874
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:36,119
date than you know. Tragiy Hope was in nineteen sixty six,

875
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,360
angl American Stylish in nineteen eighty one. Fabian Freeway is

876
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,280
much older. But this one is up to date. It's

877
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,880
only a few years old, and I think he has

878
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,599
the full picture, even to the point of, you know,

879
00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:53,280
critiquing even some of these major terror events and how

880
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,000
they play into this and how they're used by the

881
00:56:56,119 --> 00:57:00,639
establishment for this overall agenda. I think he's held it

882
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,679
in a way that most people have it.

883
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:05,199
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time, Jay, It's been

884
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,440
an absolute pleasure. Where can people find you? If you'd

885
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,320
like to give us a brief outro on where is

886
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,360
it people can find you?

887
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,639
Speaker 1: Sure, and yeah, you can find me on all the

888
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,639
social media outlets under my name. You can find me

889
00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:21,360
on YouTube of course, it's kind of my main area

890
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:26,239
and also most Fridays, sometimes it varies during the week

891
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:28,800
hosting the Alex Jones Show or the fourth hour of

892
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,079
the Lex Jown Show throughout the week. And yeah, writing

893
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:34,199
for the Sam hi To Show, and we just had

894
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:37,719
a new episode go up in regard to the recent

895
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,119
events on Sam's channel.

896
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: It's very very powerful. Thank you very much. And if

897
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,920
you are a Catholic or a Protestant and you would

898
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,440
like to debate Jay, he.

899
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Does this open forums. You're always welcome to call in

900
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,920
and debate, absolutely exactly. Just bring arguments. That's the only qualification.

901
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the stipulation. Jayde thank you so much for

902
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:01,159
your time.

903
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,559
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. Lewis, thank you.