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Speaker 1: Hello, welco with the All Eighties Movies Podcast, the podcast

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where we talk about the blockbusters, the flops, and everything

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in between from one of the precious decades from movies,

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the nineteen eighties. I'm her host Bill Banton Loum McNee

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on this journey revisiting eighties movies. Is my co host

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Jason Nassik. Jason, You're the most incredible ass kisser I

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have ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Bill, I do my best.

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Speaker 1: That's right, listeners, we are discussing with Spoils and plenty.

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The nineteen eighty five comedy sequel Police Academy two their

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first assignment. It was produced by The Lad Company and

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distributed by Warner Brothers. The movie stars Steve Gumberg, Michael Winslow,

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collieen Camp, bobcat Goldway, and David Graff. Directed by Jerry Paris.

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This movie is right at PG thirteen with the running

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time of one hour and twenty seven minutes. We covered

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Police Academy back in season four. So what is this

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movie about? What's on the box? If you grew up

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in the nineteen eighties and what's your local video store?

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Speaker 2: To rent this movie?

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Speaker 1: You would find this description on the back of the

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VHS box. It is what's in the box. Take it away, Jason,

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Watch out. A wacky wizard of Ozzy and his band

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of merry Punkers are on the prowl. They're leveling their

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spray cans and painting the town red or any color

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of graffiti. They please never mind the misspellings. If you

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see this leathered and studded gang of pin headed pranksters, run,

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don't walk the other way, because they're also emptying the

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pockets of anyone sharing the sidewalk. In the wake of

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this new wave of crime, you might be wondering where

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the educational system has gone wrong, But relax, America. Think

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of the police Academy. Now that's the kind of school

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you can trust. And guess what the raw recruits of

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police Academy are back. When this hilarious bunch of odd

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balls in blue tangles with the painting Punkers, you're in

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for an open and shutcase of NonStop laughter called Police

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Academy two their first assignment. Among those again answering law

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enforcement's most uproarious roll call are Likable Meathead, Mahoney, Florist

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turn flat Foot, high Tower, wild Eyed weapons Freak, Tackleberry,

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squeaky voiced hooks, sound effects whiz Kid Larvell, and the

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impeccably inept Academy commandant Eric Lesarde. Newcomers to the High

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Jinks and Handcuffs include Howard Hessman as the Precinct Captain,

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Tim Kazarinski as a Fuddy Duddy Nerds nerd, and Bob

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Golthwaite as Zed, the Ozzy Osbourne like gang leader who,

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in the absence of bats, choose up scenes with outrageous

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punk style. America welcomed the return of its bumbling, gut

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busting crimebusters in a most noticeable way, as Police Academy two,

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their first assignment, recorded the biggest springtime opening in box

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office history. So why not see for yourself what all

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the fur and fun is about for the first time

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in your life. You'll be glad there's a riot, a

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laugh riot in the streets. Police Academy too their first assignment,

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So that was what's in the box and Jason, I

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was impressive getting through that. Holy Moly, that's a plethora

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of tongue twisters.

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Speaker 2: Well, as listeners probably know already, the only reason I

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got through it is because of your ability as an editor.

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No one needs to know a secret. That was rough. Yeah,

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but that was a fun one. That was a long

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one too. That was a long one.

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Speaker 1: Jason, do you remember the first time you saw a

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Police Academy to their first assignment?

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Speaker 2: My first assignment was to watch this at some point

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on cable, and I did, and that's all I remember.

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To be honest, there's no question I know I saw

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multiple times on cable. But other than that, Bill Band,

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I have no memory of this film and no attachment

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to it outside of ague feeling that I probably thought

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it was Ahilair. Yes, when I was a kid. That's

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what my part is telling me that I enjoyed it

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at some point, But that's all I got. I'm just

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going to defer to you right away.

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Speaker 1: This was the only Police Academy movie I had seen

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in the theater. My dad took me to see this one,

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which was surprising because since it came out in the spring,

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we usually didn't go to the movies when school was

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in session. So the fact that my dad actually took

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me to see this, I think because he was just

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a huge fan of the first one, and you know,

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because it's PG. Thirteen the AMC Orleans eight. I do

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remember that cool Okay, so let's talk about the movie. Then.

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What are our impressions of Police Academy two?

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Speaker 2: What do you got, Jason? Are our impressions? Indeed, Bill Bant,

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this was a rough watch for me. Man, I'm sorry

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to say, but I got this immediate sense as it

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began that this was going to be a different experience

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from watching the first film in the series. It felt

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a little flat. It felt like it was missing a

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certain energy that I was trying to pinpoint. Mainly, it

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was a pace that the first one I felt had.

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weren't as sharp or quick enough, and the movie wasn't

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quite directed as well, And there might be an explanation

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for this. We may discuss this later. But most importantly,

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this just wasn't funny for me. The jokes weren't landing,

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and there are some decent setups, which was more frustrating

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for me. Even more frustrating because I was like, Oh,

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there's gonna have to be some laughs as a result

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of the setup. But there was a lack of follow

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through and there weren't great payoffs for me, And that

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could just be my sensibility, my sense of humor my taste.

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with that great theme song, I do want to be

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a little positive here, it still look a theme signs

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with the credits start to roll, and we see Tim

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Kazarinsky as Sweet Chuck enforcing all of his security measures

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at his what would you call that that lighting shop,

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his retail that sells lamps and lights and chandeliers. So

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he has all these wonderful the extreme security measures that

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he's installing and turning on and setting up, and you're like, wow,

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this is gonna be great when all these things go off,

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and they don't. They actually move away from that, and

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he ends up going to an ATM, which then is

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where the action takes place. And the Scullions, I keep

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wanting to say scallions, but it's Scullions led by of course,

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bobcat Goldwaite. Great to see him doing his crazy shtick

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and that was his thing in the eighties. And why

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didn't they rob the store? I thought that was what

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we were just being set up for. But that's just

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a microcosm of my issues I think I was having

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with this, or I know I was having with this.

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Rewatch by the way when I was watching do you

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remember when ATMs first came into effect, when you were

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able to use an ATM? It just made me think

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about this like it was a very eighties thing watching it,

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and then I was like, wait a minute, I don't

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even remember ATMs necessarily as a kid.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't either, I think because I was just

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too young to have money so I wouldn't have to

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go to a banker a ATM.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't even recall seeing them that much.

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not going into the bank as a kid or even

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a teenager. But I had to look this up. Here's

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a fun fact for y'all. The world's first ATM was

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unveiled on June twenty seventh, nineteen sixty seven, at a

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Barclays Bank branch in Enfield, North London. Goes back to

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nineteen sixty seven. I never would have guessed that, Yeah,

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I would have never figured that. So back on point here,

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I just felt after that weird opening that then everything

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was going to be either a site gag or a pratfall,

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and either it was weird or gross or silly, as

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if it were being performed for a room full of

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young teenage boys. That's the particular demographic for this type

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of movie. And there's an example here where Steve Guttenberg

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great who plays Mahoney. We know what to expect here.

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I don't think I had my expectations set to high here.

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the tailor. He's about to get a new police uniform,

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and he basically bribes the young girl for her balloon,

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gives her a Snickers bar, she gives him her balloon animal,

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and then approaches the very attractive female tailor and it

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just turns into him doing a visual dick joke. He's

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putting the balloon in his pants as if he has

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a big boner right in her face as she's taking

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his measurements. And I was like, that's not even funny.

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very sophomoric and very cross. I don't want to overthink

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this as if it wasn't what I was expecting. And

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I know these types of jokes in the style of

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humor existed in the first film. I just felt in

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the first film either the writing was stronger to back

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it up and or some of these scenes actually serve

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the story a little bit more. But it was scenes

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like that that just fell flat for me. I was like,

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of humor right now. And maybe that's just unfortunately the

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adult in me, and as a kid, I probably thought

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it was really silly, But the first film felt like

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it had a kind of a clear direction as to

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where it was going with a lot of the hijinks,

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and or maybe it could be crazy, but and it

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felt like in the first film, the entire cast seemed

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to be on the same page in the same movie,

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and I had some issues with either the characters how

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they were portrayed in this and who the cast members

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were actually I should say cast of characters, not actors themselves.

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a flat watch for me. The jokes felt flat and

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it didn't work for me. So that's my first impression

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watching this as an adult. Unfortunately, I was hoping just

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to sit down for less than an hour and a

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half and have fun with this. But I got a

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little frustrated, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's kind of surprising to hear that you were

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frustrated with it. One of the things I do not

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like about this movie is if you quizzed me on

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when scenes happened throughout the movie, I couldn't answer that

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because all it is is just a series of vignettes

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that are strung together, and they can be strung together

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in any order, and it doesn't affect the movie whatsoever.

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There's no real plot. It's just here's a little funny bit.

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But I think what I do like about the movie

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is I really enjoy the characters. I like Mahoney, I

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like High Tower, I like tackle Berry, I like Jones.

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get through the film, and I'll find some of the

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stuff they do throughout the movie funny. But the writing

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is on the wall with this film that this series

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is going to get stale, and it's going to get

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stale really quick because they're already rehashing most of the

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jokes for the first one. It's like, Okay, this was

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funny in the first movie, how do we do this

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again the second one. So there is not a lot

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of originality in this film. But if you like the

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jokes in the first one, I think they still kind

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of worked in the second one. I agree too. I

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don't think it's directed very well. I don't think it's

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shot very well. I do like most of the new

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characters they brought in. I was very surprised to see

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Howard Hesspin in it, right, I think just because of

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what I know about him. Yeah, this doesn't seem like

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a role he would take. And of course afterwards he

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said he wished he had never done it, So it

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does make sense, right, But I think it was enjoyable

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enough that I was like, Okay, not a bad sequel.

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It's not going to equal the first. But you're like,

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if they keep going down this path, there's gonna be problems.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what they did. Gotcha. That completely tracks

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And I'm glad we're talking about the cast and you

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brought up these actors that are very likable in these roles.

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They're very specific roles. We know exactly who these characters

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a caricature, but it does work for this type of comedy.

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Gutenberg is got that smarmy, goofy grinning like an idiot

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smile on his face the whole movie, Like he's literally

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smiling throughout the whole movie. Bubba Smith very serviceable. Always

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like to see Michael Winslow doing as sound effects. He's

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a talented guy. Marion Ramsey as Hooks doing the squeaky voice,

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it's effective. I think David Graff is great as tackle Berry. Yes,

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he was made for the part, and his facial expressions

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and his delivery is wonderful, and he has a kind

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of a goofy great that big bumbling presence, but always

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fun to see what he's going to do with the firearms.

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So it's good to see the band of brothers and

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sisters here back together again for this for sure. I

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enjoy that's aspect of it. Tackle Berry is the only

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one that's really given any kind of story in this.

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a girl, and that relationship has shown throughout the film,

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but everybody else, no, nothing that is a problem. Yeah,

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there's just not a lot to sink your teeth into.

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But again I'm trying not to be too high minded

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about this and knowing, you know, what is the tone

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of that? What am I watching here, and to and

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just enjoy it for what it is. But the two

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big actor issues I had was one, it's notably missing

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ged Up Bailey from the first film. For me as

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Lieutenant Thaddeus Harris, I thought he really played up the

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comedy and the over the top sort of villain or

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heel if you will, and his diamondamic between himself and

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George Gains like they had as Commandant Eric Lizard. Those

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two had a nice back and forth that worked for me.

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Commander Mauser played by Art Matrano and he sort of

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has a partnership dynamic with Officer Proctor played by Lance Kinsey,

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whom I thought actually was a bit of a stand up.

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I thought Lance Kinsey as Proctor played that bumbling idiot

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quite well. I thought he was really good in this

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for the few scenes that he was in. But for me,

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Art Matrono as Mouser wasn't quite as strong as GW. Bailey.

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Speaker 1: I was okay with Malser. Yes, I missed GW. Bailly,

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but I thought he wasn't a bad replacement. And he

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did have a motive in this, so I'll give him

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that too. He had something to do in a reason

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to do what he was doing because he wants to

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take over the precinct. That makes sense to me, sure,

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but yeah, he's gonna be bad for now. I enjoyed

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him enough. Great, see that's it's a taste thing. Yeah,

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but I agree with you wholeheart.

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Speaker 2: The second issue I had character slash actor issue I

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had with this was Captain Pete Lazard, like you said,

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played by Howard Hessman. We love Howard Hessman as we

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do WKRP in Cincinnati. Come on, He's wonderful and he's

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criminally under used in this as an actor. As a

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comedic actor, his character is poorly written. He's the brother

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of Eric Lazard George Gaines. Shouldn't he either? And this

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is a sequel where everything supposedly becomes more exaggerated the

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big you know, it's bigger, it's better and all these things.

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So now it's the brother of this art. Is he

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going to be even more goofy and just oblivious to

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everything going on and just as his brother is, or

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the extreme opposite of that. Maybe it's neither. He's just

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like this passive, nice guy captain in the film, And

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I'm like, what the hell is this character? That was unfortunate?

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And like you said, and you know you do then

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read that Howard Headsman not going to return to this

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franchise after the film, so he knew it wasn't a

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great character for him.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I do agree with that, Howard. He's

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basically playing the straight map. I'm like, wait, you have

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a talent like that, right, don't let him play the

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street And there's not enough jokes bouncing off of him

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to make it worthwhile, especially when Yeah, he's supposed to

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be Lessard's brother, so you would hope he would be

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something similar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I'm just kind of covered my issues here.

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I just don't want to belabor it. This was not

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my cup of tea. I just didn't care for it.

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I didn't think it was a good movie. It felt aimless.

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It was a comedy in the wrong hands, it felt like,

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and going over the research on some of the trivia

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behind the scenes, it does, you know, and then thinking

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about the film, you could say some of these people

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involved were going through the motions for a paycheck. Possibly,

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But usually I'm happy to see an eighties comedy that's

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under an hour and a half. It was a great

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time for that sort of thing. They usually they can

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work very well, but this felt like it was filled

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with filler. Like you said, it's a series of scenes.

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It was missing a little of the edge the first

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one had for me, and the first one I'm all

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good with being irreverently funny, but for me that just

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the payoffs weren't there. For the first film, I laughed

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out loud for a few times, and not even George Gaines,

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who is in this returning his commandant Eric Lisard, he

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didn't even make me laugh in this. Something was off

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and I just didn't laugh out loud once during this watch,

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and so I was surprised by that. That's I'll just

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leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: I would say the first two acts, like I said,

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even though it's just a bunch of mignantes that are

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strung together, I did enjoy it because I like the characters.

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I like the situations they were put in, and sometimes

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it made me smile, sometimes it made me chuckle. But

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once the third act kicked in, once Mahony gets suspended

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and they do the whole undercover m hm, it falls

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off a press offense. Yes, that third act is terrible. Okay, yeah,

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him trying to play the gang member. No one's going

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to buy your crap whatsoever. I understand you're trying to

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be funny, you're trying to stereotype a gang member, but

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that was not working at all. I think the only

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part that was funny was when Jones shows up, Mahony

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starts making him kick his partner because his partner's racist.

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But then after that, that's a slog to get through. Yeah,

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I only like the setting, that's all. I like the setting.

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The fact they were at the old Zoo. I was like,

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all right, that's kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: I actually wrote that down too, But that kind of

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underground layer for the bad guys. Yeah, it reminded me

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of The Lost Boys a little bit. Actually, that kind

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of cave atmosphere. I think the last yeah, twenty five

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minutes are rough, there's barely any laughs. It doesn't work

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at all. Yeah, but I think I enjoyed the first

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first two thirds of it. I like that one and

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two three was just bad. Okay, you're finding something in it,

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you're getting something out of it. That's great. It was

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interesting when when Gutenberg goes undercover there it becomes part

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of the gang. I looked at the clocket, there's twenty

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minutes left in the movie. I'm like, Oh, we're just

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getting into an actual story here, or you know, because

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I was wondering the whole movie is like the loose

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framework we have is that this gang is overrunning the

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sixteenth Precinct. And we were like, when are our new recruits,

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are our cast of characters that we've grown to love,

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when are they going to start kicking butt and start

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going after this gang and get infiltrateed and or eradicate it.

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And things don't get really moving in that direction till

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twenty minutes left in the movie. I'm like, oh, Okay,

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now stuff's happening, gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Right, And that's what we don't want it to happen

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because it's not well written. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, it's

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move on to favorite scenes or moments. So Jason, do

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you actually have any kind of favorite scener moment in

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this movie you can share with us?

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Speaker 2: You know, I do. I do, so I apologize to

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the listeners anyone that and I totally understand if you

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have a nostalgic attachment to the series of films. This franchise,

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I know, holds a place in a lot of people's hearts.

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And I am not going to be a Debbie Downer here.

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I actually find Bill's review is very infectious and he

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may actually sway me, and that might happen as we

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discuss our favorite scenes, because then I look back, I go,

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oh wait, I'm talking about these moments. Actually I did

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enjoy or I did smile during some of these scenes

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and or moments, and I was maybe laughing on the inside.

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So I'm starting in the beginning with the series of

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scenes right after that the credit sequence in the beginning

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where we are reintroduced to our characters from the first film,

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and we see the sequence of the quote unquote where

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are they now? And we see Tackle Berry basically being

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he's like a crossing guard outside of a grade school,

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I'm assuming, and this is wonderful because a car pulls

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up in front of the school and it's a mother

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and son, and the mother's trying to is it a mother?

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Is it mom and son? I think it is yes.

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I think it is yes. And we recognize them immediately

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as both of them were Hey, it's that actors in

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previous episodes of the All Eighties Movies Podcast. Yep. Mom

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in Mercedes, as she's credit, is played by Lucy Lee Flippan,

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and I have to insist at this point of course,

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for Bill Bant to do the impression of her from

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Summer School is that your blood. You can barely do

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it without laughing. That's great. Oh, it's one of my

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favorite impersonations of all time. And I remember we saw

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her too in Flash Dance as a secretary. Yes, so

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she's credited as Mom and Mercedes and her son, who's

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credited as Bratt, is played by Jason Hervey, who's in

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a handful of eighties bangers, one of them being Back

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to the Future, and that's where I had put him

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down as our Hay, it's that actor. So it's good

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to see these familiar faces. And Yes, as the mother,

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she's dealing with this Brady kid. He won't get out

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of the car. He doesn't want to go to school,

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so she gets out and approaches Tackleberry. And it's funny

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because it's tackle Berry. He's over the top and you

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know he's going to pull out a huge gun or

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some sort of weapon, and sure enough, he's doing the

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scale straight act here with this kid asks him to

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get out of the car, won't get out, and then

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he pulls out is I don't even know. It looks

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like a giant pistol slash flare gun, but it releases

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like a smoke bomb inside. So he shoots out the

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back window of the car. It might be tear gas,

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and the whole car fills with Yeah, let's go with

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that tear gas and the kid has to get out

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and go to school. It's so extreme. It's like, yep,

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that's Tackleberry. Here we go. It was funny. I love

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that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime you got Tackleberry pulling out weapons puts the

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spot in my face that man loves his guns and weapons.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And I can't believe kid calls his mom bird face

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and I was like, whoa bird face?

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Speaker 2: Man? That's rough you think about it too. It's just

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the fact that Tackleberry has a weapon like that on

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him outside of a grade school and it's just blasting

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into the back of this woman's car prepared. I like

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it for everything.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite scenes, and I think it's one

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of the more memorable scenes of the movie, is when

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they end up gluing Mauser's hair. So of course Mauser's

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given the new recruits a hard time, and of course

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Mahoney and that's not the right person you want to cross.

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And they're in the locker room and Mauser goes take

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a shower and tacker Berry has the glue. It's a

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POxy that he's using it to fix his helmet, and

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Mahoney uses it to replace with the shampoo, and then

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Mauser basically washes his hair with the glue and then

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gets his hands stuck and then he can't get his

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hands out of his hair, and then he's walking around

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the precinct and naked, and then the fact Proctor has

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to cut his hands off his head right, and then

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he's got like the hairy palms and they have little

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running gag. I'd like that scene as a kid. I

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still like that. Now it's an adult, I get it.

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I get it a little.

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Speaker 2: It made me think of Private Benjamin too, and you

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can think of films with the shower pranks, right, it's

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always a thing. And the part when Proctor is cutting

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his hands free from the hair and then Mauser wants

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to see what he looks like in the mirror, and

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doctor keeps moving the mirror around his head so you

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can't get a clear look at it. It's like, look

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from this thing, it looked good. Over here, it looks great.

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That's pretty funny, which actually is a good segue into

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my next favorite moment. It's just actually a very brief

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scene between Mauser and Proctor once again. And I had

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mentioned I appreciated Lancekinzi as Proctor in this because he

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just plays an idiot really, really well. So it's now

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we have our new recruits that have been brought into

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the sixteenth Precinct to help save the day and help

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00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:36,079
this area of town get cleaned up from the evil

471
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,119
gang element. And Mauser doesn't want this to happen because

472
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,079
he knows he made a deal with the Chief of

473
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,200
Police that if the Captain Lassard isn't able to do

474
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,960
this with these new recruits, then he can take over

475
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,759
as captain. And he has this little conversation off to

476
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:55,559
the side with Proctor, And there's some fun lines here

477
00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:58,480
where Mauser says to Proctor, so these academy rats are

478
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,440
going to save the precinct on like, yeah, personally, Lieutenant,

479
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,240
I hope they fall flat on their asses and he

480
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,480
Mouser says that can be arranged, you know, and Practic's like,

481
00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:08,359
what do you mean? And Maser says, well, if they fail,

482
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,640
I take over as commander of the precinct. And Maser says,

483
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,720
so we make sure they fail, and Proctor's like, who

484
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:18,160
mass like the new recruits. Practice says why. Mouser says,

485
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,400
if they fail, Lisard's out and I'm in. I'm gonna

486
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,839
need somebody to be in the new watch commander, and

487
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,720
you know who that's going to be. Practor says who

488
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:28,359
just says you dickhead. You Practor responds, oh, oh, well,

489
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,720
good idea, and Maser said, you're you're not playing with

490
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:33,960
a full deck, are you. Proctor says, oh, I don't

491
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,119
play cards. It's so stupid. But that was a moment

492
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,599
where I thought the writing came through. So I appreciated

493
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,400
that because I thought that was some fun play on words.

494
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:47,440
In the way that Lance Kinsey plays it, He's just

495
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,079
so oblivious. It's fun.

496
00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:53,279
Speaker 1: I did laugh out loud. He's like, you dickhead. Yeah,

497
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,000
I guess just suffers from short term memory loss or something.

498
00:24:57,559 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 2: Sure.

499
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: Another favorite scene for me, we have to have something

500
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:04,640
with Michael Winslow and that's the karate scene.

501
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:06,599
Speaker 2: Good call. Heck yeah.

502
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: So the gang, the Scallions whatever they're called the Scullions,

503
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,519
they're hitting up a grocery guy for protection money and

504
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:18,240
Jones comes across this and there's a fence to the

505
00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:22,000
back of his shop, and he basically jumps over the

506
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:25,519
fence and then does this whole karate routine. He's even

507
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:28,640
dubbing his voice like you'd be watching it on Kunk

508
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,599
Fu Theater on Saturday afternoons. That's what they used to

509
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,839
have one in Philadelphia Kunk Fu Theater where his mouth

510
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,559
would be moving, but then the voice doesn't quite match.

511
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:44,519
Just all the punches and then I definitely had a

512
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:46,440
Mandela effect because I thought there was more than two

513
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,039
gang members, which I would have loved that there was

514
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:52,039
if there was like three or four. And then Jones

515
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:54,200
just kicks the crap out of him with karate and

516
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,720
the wonderful help of a stuntman who's very obvious in

517
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:00,960
a couple of the scenes. Yeah, the fact that he's

518
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,839
just doing all the sound effects throughout that scene hilarious.

519
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,799
I remember as a kid when it came on cable

520
00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:09,119
and I recorded the movie. I would watch that scene

521
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,319
over and over and over again. I love it so much,

522
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:14,359
and it was still funny to me to this day.

523
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more understood. It's great Michael Winslow, what

524
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:22,400
a pleasure. Spaceballs this. Anytime he shows up, you just

525
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,559
want him to do the effects, and he comes through

526
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:27,440
every time, and he shines in this movie. They give

527
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,359
him a lot to do with that. I thought the

528
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,720
first when we were reintroduced to his character in the

529
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:33,880
very beginning, it's like at a food court and a

530
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,160
mall and the two yuppies sit down next to him

531
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,759
and he's doing them off to the effects, right off

532
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:40,920
to the side. That was a little weird for me

533
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,960
because obviously know that the sound isn't coming from the

534
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,480
other person, it's coming from off the side. That was

535
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,200
weird and it just didn't totally agree into the But

536
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:55,279
then later on, like when Mausers given his speech in

537
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,720
front of the new recruits, three bad reports and you're

538
00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:00,079
suspended so you better act right when you're out there

539
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,160
on representing us on the streets and Winslow does the

540
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:07,079
alarm sound effect from his phone like stuff like that.

541
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,559
Love it any machine. When he's on the megaphone at

542
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:11,319
the end doing.

543
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: That's true, that is a highlight for the third act.

544
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:16,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want to see. But when you're

545
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,279
talking about this particular scene that you enjoy so much

546
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,920
and you rewatch so much because he combines so many

547
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,039
things and it makes it believable and you know exactly

548
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,880
what he's doing when you said that, when he's doing

549
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,240
the like the voice dubbing, when he's moving his mouth

550
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:34,440
and nothing's happened, and then you hear the lines in English.

551
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,720
I can't get enough of that. I wish you would

552
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,720
just do that throughout the whole movie. I think exactly.

553
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,839
Guess that's what they those movies were like back then.

554
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,000
They just they never matched the dubbing with the ADR correctly.

555
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:50,079
So anyway, great stuff. That's a good call.

556
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: But thanks for pointing out another highlight of the third

557
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,920
act that is hilarious when his on the megaphone because

558
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,920
it sounds realistic because if you're a gang member and

559
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,920
he's doing all those sounds and they're like, holy shit,

560
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,079
helicopters are coming in. More cops are going yep, totally

561
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,440
would fool them. That was almost realistic and realistically funny.

562
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: He was doing different types of gun effects and then

563
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,480
the helicopter effect and the voices of the people.

564
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, more sirens coming in. Yeah that was good.

565
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right. Well, you know what, it

566
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,720
is definitely good to see the Blue Oyster Bar again

567
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,240
in this movie. You knew they would return to it

568
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,079
because it was gold in the first film. I was

569
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,480
mixed on this, however, but I just had to mention

570
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,119
it here. I want to be positive because in this particular,

571
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,440
see Tim Kazarinski is as sweet Chuck has a broken

572
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:42,240
arm and his arm is propped up in a cast.

573
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:44,440
So when he goes running into the Blue ser Bar,

574
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,160
he's totally ready. Like one of the bikers sees, oh,

575
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,000
this guy's ready to dance, so he just grabs him

576
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,519
by the arm and starts dancing with him. And I'm like, yeah,

577
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,839
let's go. It's hilarious. All the gay bikers in the

578
00:28:56,839 --> 00:28:59,319
gay bar. It's just a lot of fun. But it

579
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,119
was missing the classic music. I was missing the song

580
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:11,319
I sing the song Bill, how does come on? How

581
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:12,920
do you not use? I wonder if there was a

582
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,160
licensing issue or something, But yeah, I really missed the song,

583
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:19,640
and I wished there was more of it like this.

584
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,799
I wouldn't mind if they kept returning to I understand

585
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:25,960
it's a joke from the first film, but I was thinking,

586
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,200
Bill Bant, that you could have given some of the

587
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,440
gay bikers a bigger role in this. They could have

588
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,960
come through, like at the end to come help, Like

589
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:34,920
maybe they had a crush on High Tower, which it

590
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,880
seems like they do at the end of that scene actually,

591
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:39,440
and they come to help him save the day and

592
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,160
fight the gang at the end. I thought that would

593
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,839
have been a lot of fun. I would have liked

594
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:44,279
to see more more of those guys.

595
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,359
Speaker 1: Well, even like the whole way that sweet Chuck gets

596
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:49,920
in trouble because he has that cast and he just

597
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,680
goes to turn and accidentally punches one of the gang

598
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:55,759
members in the face, and then he's got to run off. Yeah,

599
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:58,000
and then that ends up at the Blue Oyster Bar.

600
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,759
Who practor almost knows the address too if you do

601
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,319
realize that the address he rattles off is not the

602
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:06,319
same as on the door, so I think he says

603
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:10,000
six twenty one, six thirty one and the Blues fifty five.

604
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, good catch. Okay, that's paying attention for you, folks.

605
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: So another favorite moment of mine is the only one

606
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,839
that really gets any kind of story in this is

607
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,640
Tackleberry and Tackle Berry's assigned his motorcycle cop. His partner

608
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,920
is a woman, and he does not like that at all.

609
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,400
You know, he's the man's man with his guns. But

610
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,440
luckily his partner played by Colleen Camp is also a

611
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,319
big fan of guns, and they fall in love, and

612
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:40,119
they go on their first date and Kirklin invites him

613
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,200
in and they tackle Berry is about to lose his virginity,

614
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,000
we find out, and they have a scene where they're

615
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,559
taking off their clothes, but then they're pulling out guns

616
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,799
and weapons left and right, and I thought that was

617
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:52,640
just kind of funny. It's over the top. But because

618
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,359
of the way tackle Berry is, this is so him.

619
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,119
I could see him bringing six weapons with him on

620
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,599
a date, so there's no surprise they were pulling all

621
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,160
this stuff out and it amos seems like they were

622
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440
trying to up each other on pulling out weapons. Kirklin's

623
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,960
pulling a gun from her bra but then the lights

624
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,079
go out and the gun goes off and right yea,

625
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,559
Kirkland says something innuendous. Yeah, it was good to see

626
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,319
Tackleberry find a mate. Yeah, absolutely, find the one that

627
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,519
is meant for him. I have to admit now that

628
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:23,920
you describe it that it was amusing and it is

629
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:26,720
fun to watch that relationship develop. It's nice to see

630
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,920
tackle Berry find his match. And I was just hoping

631
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,440
for more actually throughout the sequence when you see them

632
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,160
go on this date, I wanted more of the gun play,

633
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,519
you know what it makes me think, I maybe I

634
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:41,599
wished it had been a little bit more along the

635
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,759
lines of the sequence in Naked Gun between Priscilla Presley

636
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,599
and Leslie Nielsen when they go on their date and

637
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,160
they just do all these goofy things that are over

638
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,920
the top and they're laughing as they come out of

639
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,799
platoon and things like that, and so here I thought

640
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:58,599
maybe they went to a gun range together or something

641
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,839
like that, and they were shooting off million different webs

642
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,119
just throughout the date. Because the date seems so simple

643
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,559
and straightforward romance, and then it gets to the goofy

644
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,039
stuff at the in the bedroom with all the guns

645
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,920
coming out, and if this was my first time seeing it,

646
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,480
I probably would have found it funnier. But I think

647
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:18,079
there's even a scene like this in the film in

648
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:20,799
the Line of Fire with Eastwood and Renee Russo, where

649
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,839
it's similar where they're throwing all of their weapons down

650
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,079
onto the ground as they're getting into bed, which is

651
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,920
so maybe I've just seen this a couple times in

652
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,000
other films, but it's still fun I can't deny that

653
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:35,880
with the gun shot going off was funny at the.

654
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: End in the dark.

655
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but actually I do like some of your ideas.

656
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,000
They're pulling out the guns and then they're describing them

657
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:44,759
and it's getting them more excited. So they almost want

658
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,680
to really take off each other's clothes because they want

659
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680
to find out what their weapons they.

660
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,079
Speaker 2: Have on them. Oh that would be there, you go,

661
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,920
that's funnier. This is where I got frustrated. Yeah, I

662
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,319
returned to that word because it's like, oh, there is

663
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,680
some gold here. They just didn't mind it proper. There's

664
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:03,640
they had to set up or they have a situation,

665
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,119
and they didn't go deeper. They just went with the

666
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,599
surface joke. So that's my deal.

667
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:11,839
Speaker 1: One last thing. It's not necessarily a favorite scene or moment,

668
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,799
but it's just very memorable of me. I'll never forget this.

669
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,640
And it took me a long time to eat rice

670
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,119
crispies after watching this movie.

671
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.

672
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: And that's when Mahony meets his new partner, Vinnie Stoltzmann,

673
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:28,640
who's an absolute slob. And Mahony goes to his apartment

674
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,119
and it's a hell hole and he's like, oh, can

675
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:34,160
I eat breakfast before we go? And Mony's like, yeah, sure,

676
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:36,359
and he picks up the bowl of cereal and he

677
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,440
looks down at it and he's like disappointed, and then

678
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,839
he spoons and starts yelling at his cat and goes

679
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,200
in the letter box and then flicks his cereal across

680
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,920
the room. That still makes me gag. I'm like, there's

681
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,720
no way I'm ever going to get a cat. Yeap

682
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,119
who roast as hell? I couldn't agree more. This is

683
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,000
where I found some of these scenes just to be

684
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,640
gross for gross sakes, and that's why I didn't work

685
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,400
for me. It wasn't as funny that was one of

686
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,400
the moments, but it is effective, that's for sure. And

687
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,519
if you've ever known anyone like I do that owns

688
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:11,559
a cat and she has a cat that is very

689
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:13,719
well behaved and goes in the litter box is great,

690
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,480
but it doesn't actually smell the entire place, which is nice.

691
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,239
But that first wave after the cat does his business

692
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,400
in the litter box is brutal. When he was eating

693
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,320
that out of the cereal, I was like, this is

694
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,239
that's absolutely disgusting.

695
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,519
Speaker 2: I don't know. And that was another way I almost

696
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:33,239
had a it's not a major, this is a super

697
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,159
nitpicky complaint, but with that character's name in the first place,

698
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,800
because you said it and I couldn't remember his name,

699
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,199
and I had to look at the cast list here

700
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:44,880
and it's Officer Vinnie Stollman Stole and it's such a

701
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,000
weird name and hard to say and hard to remember.

702
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:48,599
I was like, what is that name?

703
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he was okay, and I did kind

704
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,159
of find it funny when he finds, oh god, the

705
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,599
promo for Nessli Crunch, I mean basically just only bitt

706
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:01,440
It's like, it's kind of ants, this is wiping them off.

707
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

708
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,559
Speaker 1: So let's move on to our Swiss cheese and complaint department,

709
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:09,480
And why do we call it Swiss cheese.

710
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: Because although this movie is delicious, it does have your

711
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400
choose your tackleberry gun holes.

712
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: Right if it doesn't have your choose your tackleberry gun holes,

713
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,480
we just final complaint with the complaint department. Jason, what

714
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,599
do you have left for complaints that you could share

715
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:24,320
with our audience.

716
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:27,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a structural issue. I think there's just

717
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,039
a framework, lack of story overall, the kind of thing

718
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:33,159
which again we know what this is, the kind of

719
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:35,840
comedy it is, but it then when they try to

720
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,360
put a story into it, it feels jarring. It's forty

721
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,840
five minutes into this film and our new recruits are

722
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,920
graduating class have done absolutely nothing to stop any crime

723
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:51,039
at all, apprehend any gang members until Captain Lassard played

724
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:54,800
by Hard Hessman gets graffitied, which was an odd scene

725
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,239
as well, when Lassard goes down the alley to take

726
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,519
on the gang members on his own and then gets

727
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:01,400
out number of course, and it comes back to the

728
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,400
precinct and he's got graffiti all of them, and then

729
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,840
it's like he does the raw ross speech, let's go

730
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,480
get him. Wait a minute, we're halfway through the movie.

731
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,719
What now we're It was odd to me, So that's

732
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:13,480
just an overall.

733
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: Issue I had there you go. One for me was

734
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,480
Mahoney's intro scene in this movie. I mean, you look

735
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:23,719
back on police Academy and then he was is the

736
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440
car valet and he does the thing with the guy's

737
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,639
car and he puts it on two wheels and then

738
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,880
parks it right. And then for this one, okay, it

739
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,960
opens up on the beach and he's beach patrol. I'm like, okay, perfect,

740
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,679
this is definitely something Mahoney would want to do to

741
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,880
work on the beach. But then we have the truck

742
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,280
that's zipping around the beach pulls up to Mahoney. Mahoney

743
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,559
knows the guy mm hmm. And then the guy drives

744
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:49,960
off and there's like a really bad chase scene where

745
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,159
you almost think Mahoney's gonna get killed because it looks

746
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:55,639
like he's gonna flip over his bike a couple of times.

747
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,920
I'm like, wait, you know this guy. Two of the

748
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,039
accomplices got off the truck. That didn't work for me

749
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:01,360
at all.

750
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: It's weird. Once they start the chase, it gets weird.

751
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,239
There's a quick cut where you can see it's clearly

752
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,119
not Gutenberg on the four wheeler. It's a stunt man.

753
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,119
And then that chase is like, okay, now they're cruising

754
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:15,719
down the beach, which can be fun, but then it's

755
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,000
just jarring at the end when all of a sudden

756
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:20,320
the truck goes flying off the edge of a pier

757
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:24,239
or rocky cliff, whatever that was, because you didn't see

758
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,440
from it. The perspective is not filmed correctly where you

759
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,880
didn't see that coming at all at the end of

760
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,159
this beach, which is part of a vast ocean on

761
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:34,639
the other and then all of a sudden he's going

762
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,639
off of the side of a wall into the water,

763
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,079
and it's like, did he just go flying into a

764
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,360
totally different location into a lake somewhere.

765
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,519
Speaker 1: That's how it felt. It was a weird ending to that,

766
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:47,559
and the fact that he knows the guy. Does he

767
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:50,519
do this all the time? Is this a recurring thing

768
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:54,039
where here comes Tim in his truck and choose up

769
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:54,719
the beach and.

770
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe have a chat with this guy if he's

771
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:57,800
your buddy.

772
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: But he looks like a dork at least look like

773
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,800
a tough guy or something, right.

774
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just weird. That's a good one, as to

775
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:08,519
be expected. This was the eighties, of course, and we

776
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:10,960
always say this, that's no excuse, but this is what

777
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:14,400
was happening during the time, and there's some geislers, you know,

778
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,679
some racial stuff going on in here, and some jokes

779
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,519
and things, and probably would not fly today they were

780
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,239
to remake this, they would not be putting that in there,

781
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,559
So that's just to be noted. I think the only

782
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:28,440
other thing I had Bill Bant was I had an

783
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,320
issue the full body cavity search joke didn't work for

784
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,440
me in this because it just didn't make any sense.

785
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,760
I understood that it was another prank that Mahoney was

786
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,199
playing a Mauser. Great, but then to bring the nurse

787
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:47,199
into the locker room and single out Mauser and then

788
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,480
she was just going to go they just grab him

789
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,440
and violate him. Basically, didn't feel like there was any

790
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,400
proper procedure here. It wasn't as if Mahony framed Mauser

791
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,599
as like a bad guy or a purp or something

792
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,119
like that. It was just right there in the locker room.

793
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:04,760
It just didn't feel like that would I understand. Suspension

794
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,679
of disbelief kind of goes out with the window with

795
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,639
this type of movie, but it didn't pay off. Yeah.

796
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: What I find weird about that also is there's all

797
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,840
the hustle and bustle going on the pre suit and

798
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,920
then Mahoney says to keptain Lessard he wants him to

799
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,639
sign something, and he asked what it is. He's like, oh, body,

800
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:26,400
Cavary search right, and you almost could miss it. And

801
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,039
then all of a sudden we come to the scene

802
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,239
with Malser getting it and you're like, where's this coming from.

803
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,280
You're like, oh, they kind of set it up earlier,

804
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,599
but they didn't really set it up.

805
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

806
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,119
Speaker 1: You like that Mauser is getting come uppance, but this

807
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:43,760
set yeah, setup is not good at all.

808
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,679
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

809
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:47,039
Speaker 1: That's all I got my last one. Then I found

810
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:50,119
this really weird. So after they arrest all the people

811
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:53,000
and supposedly none of the arrest stick, which doesn't make

812
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,119
sense to me either, because all the rookies do have

813
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,239
a season officer with them, so you think they would

814
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,800
go through the procedure to at least arrest these people properly.

815
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:07,400
But Lazard knows he's screwed and he's gonna lose his captainship.

816
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:09,199
So that's when they've decided to put on the fair

817
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:12,800
to try to get the neighborhood back. All right, good idea.

818
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,599
So during the fair, the gang shows up and they

819
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,480
have the scene where they're talking about the fair and

820
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:20,280
the rides and stuff. Jason, they are only a half

821
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,880
a block away from the fair. They're supposed to be

822
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,400
police all around. How do they not see, Hey, that's

823
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:34,000
the Scullions right there, right. They get totally taken by surprise.

824
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,360
I didn't realize how close they were after they finished

825
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,280
the conversation. They walked proximity. It walked five steps, and

826
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,480
then they're right in the middle of the fair.

827
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: Right. It's like, I think somebody would have noticed this

828
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,239
whole this entire gang forming at the edge of the crowd.

829
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,599
Speaker 1: The whole thing is the city's being overrun. You would

830
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,719
have some massive police protection for this fair. Yeah, that's

831
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,079
a great call. That's just a logical thought process there.

832
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:01,239
It's that did make me smile, I will admit. When

833
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,440
Bobcat is explaining why he doesn't want to go onto

834
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,639
the is it the ferris wheel?

835
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 2: Yes? Or that because he gets sick, And then he's like, okay,

836
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,800
well if you go with me, I'll go on it.

837
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've barely talked about him in this and yeah,

838
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,719
oh man, he choose up the scenes, that's for sure.

839
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,119
He was certainly memorable. Oh he's going for it.

840
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

841
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: I never forgot who he was after watching this movie.

842
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,039
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean they gave him that entire sequence

843
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,280
in the grocery store is so wild, and they just

844
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,679
let him, let him go for it.

845
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: I would say he's a highlight in this I would agree.

846
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 2: I would agree. Hey, I didn't mind him at all,

847
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:39,760
Like he's he's doing his job. And if you like

848
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,480
his style of comedy exactly, if you do it works,

849
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,159
he's a kookie. If not, yeah, it could be grating.

850
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: M Okay, let's move on to Hey, it's that actor.

851
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,440
So in this segment, we spotlight a character actor you

852
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,880
have seen in many other films, an actor making their

853
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,320
big screen debut, or an actor it makes an uncredited cameo.

854
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,639
It's hey, it's an actor. Who do we choose this week?

855
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: All right? This week we chose for our Hey, it's

856
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,000
that actor Rich Hall, who is uncredited as a street punk.

857
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,559
That's Rich Hall. He caught my eye. I didn't recognize him.

858
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,880
At first, I admit, but when going through the cast

859
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,559
list and seeing his name and picture, I knew it

860
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,920
was him, and yeah. Rich Hall is known for his

861
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:28,559
sour expression, graouci demeanor, cantankerous, gravelly voice. He's an American comedian, writer, director, actor,

862
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:32,440
and musician. He came to prominence as a sketch comedian

863
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,199
in the nineteen eighties. This is from IMDb. He both

864
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,599
wrote and acted in these sketch comedies. So I'm going

865
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:41,559
to get into his eighties resume here. He was on

866
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:45,320
a show called Fridays. This was similar to Saturday Night Live.

867
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,840
I was going to ask you, Bill, you're nodding your

868
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,280
head as if you had seen this. I was not familiar.

869
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,679
But Michael Richards was on this show, as well as

870
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,360
Bruce Maller, who plays Fackler in Police Academy.

871
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: Just recently came on streaming, so I have seen a

872
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,280
couple of up. Did not know of it at the

873
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,360
time when it came out. It's only been recent that

874
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,760
I've I've heard about it and had been watching an

875
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,159
episode here though. It's okay, yeah, okay, Well, rich Hall

876
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:12,039
was in nineteen episodes of that from eighty one to

877
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:14,880
eighty two. He did end up playing various characters on

878
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,800
Saturday Night Live in sixteen episodes from eighty four to

879
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,000
eighty five. He was the character Wilbur in One Crazy

880
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:23,679
Summer from eighty six, which we covered on this very podcast.

881
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,760
He did some episodic TV after that, and he was

882
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,760
in another classic sequel, Chud two Bud.

883
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,519
Speaker 2: The Chud in nineteen eighty nine. But those of us

884
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,679
familiar with eighties pop culture. Fans of the eighties would

885
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,360
know Rich Hall for his part playing himself in the

886
00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:45,360
HBO TV series Not Necessarily The News. He was in

887
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,400
fifty three episodes from nineteen eighty two to nineteen ninety

888
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:50,039
He as an actor, he would go on to do

889
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:54,639
more small parts TV movies episodic TV. He most recently

890
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:57,159
was the character Roberts in the twenty twenty five reboot

891
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,639
of The Running Man Just Crazy to Go Back. Now,

892
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:03,039
I'm like, I don't remember that character, so I gotta

893
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:05,000
think about that one. Yeah. And then throughout the twenty

894
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,599
ten's he wrote a series of documentary commentary like type

895
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,280
TV movies, such as Rich Hall's You Can Go to Hell,

896
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,159
I'm Going to Texas and Rich Hall's California Stars and

897
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,280
rich Hall's Presidential grudge Match and a few more of those,

898
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,719
ending with rich Hall's Red Menace in twenty nineteen Little Trivia.

899
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:23,639
He was partly the inspiration for the character of Moe

900
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,280
in The Simpsons, and rich Hall is credited with inventing

901
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,599
the word yes, that's what I know him for go

902
00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:33,960
you were waiting for me to get to that. A

903
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,360
snigglet is defined as a word that should be in

904
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,559
the dictionary but isn't. Sniggleets were popularized during the eighties

905
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:43,760
on that HBO series I mentioned not necessarily the news.

906
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,559
He was a regular cast member of the show, of course,

907
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:49,960
and had that regular segment on sniggelets during each episode

908
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,840
of the monthly series, rich Hall is our it'es.

909
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: That act the one snigglet. I always remember the description.

910
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:58,280
I wish I knew what it was. Is when you

911
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,679
open a catch up top and there's like dried catch

912
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,000
up And he had a name for it, and I

913
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:05,639
can't remember what it was. But every time I opened ketchup,

914
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:08,480
I always think of stinklets. Why don't I look up

915
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:09,079
and find out.

916
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: What that word is. That's amazing. I was a fan

917
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,639
of that show. I was to watch that a lot.

918
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,639
There was a good one and I remember him from

919
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:16,800
that This sniglets were great. I wonder I'm sure you

920
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,079
could look it up to find Yeah, I'm gonna have to.

921
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,639
That would be fun to do. By the time, move

922
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:23,639
on to facts and trivia. What are some facts in

923
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:27,039
trivia we have about Police Academy to their first assignment. Yeah,

924
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:30,719
here we go the first assignment. The first film Police

925
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,079
Academy had cost four point eight million, but the second

926
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,800
was seven point five million. Producer Paul Maslansky said the

927
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,360
difference was due to filming in Los Angeles rather than

928
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,960
Toronto as in the original quote. Shooting in Los Angeles

929
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:46,519
is expensive, he said, not because of the city officials.

930
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:49,519
They provide every cooperation. It's the merchants and the property

931
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:51,480
owners who can really hit you. There's so much filming

932
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:53,079
going on that they ask a lot of money for

933
00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:57,079
location sites, parking, et cetera. Mislansky also said, naturally the

934
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:00,320
actors wanted more money to do the sequel of the

935
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,239
line or principal talent costs are about a million and

936
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,960
a half and that includes my own fee. He added,

937
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:09,159
we lost some time because I had to change directors

938
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:12,639
after a couple of weeks, but Jerry Parris has done

939
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:14,599
a great job of catching up.

940
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Well there you go. Yes, I did say the viewing

941
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:20,400
of our episode that Jerry Paris was the director of

942
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:23,000
Police Economy two, but he was not the first director.

943
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,480
That would be James Signorelli, who was fired for Police

944
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,760
Economy two the first assignment, after three weeks of filming,

945
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,440
due to creative differences and concerns that his according to

946
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,360
producer Paul Maslansky, was too edgy and it did not

947
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,880
match the franchise's tone, so he was replaced by Jerry Parris,

948
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,599
and much of Signorelli's footage was reshot. Producer Paul Maslanski

949
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:49,119
stated that he classed with Signarelli, claiming the director had

950
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:52,079
not seen the original film and they had a physical fight.

951
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 2: Or the direction of the movie. Well, here we go

952
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,880
a little more of this. According to Bubba Smith, he

953
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,519
made more money from his work on the film alone

954
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,480
than he had earned in ten years of playing professional football.

955
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,519
This was due to Bubba having requested a two percent

956
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:07,920
piece of the movie's profits in lieu of a higher

957
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,440
salary prior to shooting Smart Man.

958
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,159
Speaker 1: Smart Man, Yeah, right, here we go a little nepotism

959
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,599
so two of Jerry Parris's children were casts in the movie.

960
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,719
His daughter Julie Parris was given a small role as

961
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,000
the checkout girl said talks to, while his son Andrew

962
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:27,360
Paris played Bud, the punchy brother of Kathleen Kirkland, which

963
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,639
that that was a little somewhat funny but a little

964
00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:30,159
over the top.

965
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was talking about GW. Bailey missing him in

966
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:36,559
this film, and he had hoped to return as Lieutenant

967
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:38,480
Harris in this but was passed over in favor of

968
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:41,159
art Pa Toronto as the antagonist in this film and

969
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,119
Police Academy three back in Training as well. Bailey instead

970
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:49,480
took a job working with director Hugh Wilson on Rustler's Rhapsody.

971
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:52,400
In nineteen eighty five, on a day off, GW visited

972
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,760
this movie set to film an uncredited cameo in the

973
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,239
wedding reception scene at the end, he appeared from behind

974
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:02,320
as the man having his picture taken by the photographer.

975
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: And once I read that and then watched the movie again,

976
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:07,719
I was like, Oh, yep, there he is. You know

977
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,559
it's in right away. Mm hmm, Okay, this I found

978
00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:14,440
somewhat interesting. So Julie Brown, who was the seamstress in

979
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,320
that one scene you talked about. Was originally cast as

980
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,480
Chloe Daniels, who was supposed to be the love interest

981
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:25,559
for Mahoney, with the understanding she would play significant ensemble role. However,

982
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,960
she was later disappointed to find out that many of

983
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,679
her scenes with Steve Gutenberg had been removed from the

984
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:33,559
final version of the film. Brown also recalled that Gutenberg

985
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:37,159
was not particularly kind to her during filming. In one instance,

986
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:40,960
while shooting the street Fair sequence where Mahoney takes Chloe

987
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:43,280
on a Ferris Wheel date. We don't see any of this,

988
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:47,079
Gutenberg declined to perform a scripted kiss, saying his character

989
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:51,519
wouldn't kiss her. Ultimately, the entire romantic storyline between Mahoney

990
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:53,480
and Chloe was cut from the finished film.

991
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: Bummer, that might have added something.

992
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know, but you're going from

993
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,679
Kim Control to Julie Brown. M yep, I it seems

994
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:03,880
like a playful girlfriend.

995
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Bummer for her though, that would

996
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,519
just be like, oh, it cut all my things. Yes, Also,

997
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:11,960
bummer to hear that supposely he wasn't very nice, surprising.

998
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:14,199
I did want to just this is a quick one

999
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,199
mention this because I thought this was cool and just

1000
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,440
kind of kind of nice. Tim Kazarinsky was originally only

1001
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,840
to appear in the opening scene. He plays Sweet Chuck,

1002
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,000
of course, but director Jerry Paris enjoyed the chemistry between

1003
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:28,039
Kazarinsky and Bobcat Goldwaite, so the character of sweet Chuck

1004
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,199
was created during filming.

1005
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like the opposite of what exactly, We'll get

1006
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:36,280
rid of one and add another instead. Yeah, time to

1007
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,400
move on to box office, so please kind of me two.

1008
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,920
Their first Assignment, hit theaters on March twenty ninth, nineteen

1009
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:45,679
eighty five, opening wide and sixteen hundred and thirteen locations.

1010
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,800
Made on a relatively modest budget of around seven point

1011
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,360
five million, the film turned into a major box office success,

1012
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:56,079
pulling in fifty five point three million across North America.

1013
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,480
It debuted at number one and didn't give up that

1014
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:01,920
top spot for three straight weeks even after that until

1015
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,079
Strong the top ten for another seven weeks, eventually finishing

1016
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,440
as the eleventh highest grossing film in the US for

1017
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,159
that year. Moving on to reviews, from growing up in

1018
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:13,519
the eighties, we would watch at the movies with Gene

1019
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:15,840
Cisco and Roger Ebert to hear their reviews and watch

1020
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,800
clips of upcoming movies. Their review of Police Acadomy two

1021
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,800
was unanimous two thumbs down. Jean said the movie had

1022
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,000
two laughable moments, which were two more than the first film,

1023
00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:29,559
and Roger was disappointed that people would spend their hard

1024
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:33,239
earned money to pay to see this movie. Tomatoes gives

1025
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,760
it a Tomatometers score of thirty two percent, with the

1026
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,800
Popcorn Meter score of forty three percent. It also has

1027
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,599
an IMDb rating of five point eight. So this takes

1028
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,440
us two additional thoughts and questions. What are some additional

1029
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,880
thoughts of questions we have about Pleae Academy two.

1030
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: It's all you, Bill Bent, what do you got?

1031
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: Here's a question for you, Jason. So I might have

1032
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,519
to think about this a little bit. Okay, So they've

1033
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:57,199
cast Police Academy two. They haven't started filming yet, but

1034
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,000
they bring you in as casting directors slash scriptwriter, and

1035
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:04,840
they say, here's our cast, and you can make any

1036
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,400
change to the cast whatsoever. You could take someone out

1037
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:09,920
and replace him with someone the first movie. Everyone's available

1038
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,320
at this point because there's some actors who couldn't film

1039
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,440
the second movie just because of other obligations. But you

1040
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,079
could bring anyone back, and you could take anyone out

1041
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,599
or just add someone or just take someone out.

1042
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:21,039
Speaker 2: That's it.

1043
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: What would you change in Police Acadomy too? Maybe to

1044
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,440
help it? I think I know which direction you're going

1045
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,559
to go. Huh So, yeah, well I did. I was

1046
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:33,880
of course talking about GW. Bailey versus Art Matronto.

1047
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,079
Speaker 2: But you know what I didn't. I just don't understand

1048
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:40,599
why Fackler is there. He just doesn't kill do anything

1049
00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:44,159
for me, So I would take him out, and I

1050
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:46,559
think it could have used. Yeah, definitely another strong female

1051
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:49,639
and help me out. Who's the blonde bombshell? That's one

1052
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:53,400
of the Oh that couldn't I think was she pregnant

1053
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,719
during the filming of this, She couldn't be in it? Oh,

1054
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,719
Leslie Easterbrook Debye Callahan, Yes, Leslie Easterbrook. She could have

1055
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,679
brought that strength and sexuality to it, which I think

1056
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,159
obviously memorable as a teenager as a young boy watching

1057
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:12,199
the first film. But yeah, this is an eighties comedy

1058
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,280
and that's just felt like it was missing a little

1059
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,320
bit of that and I didn't Maybe not a Kim

1060
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,239
control because we like you just mentioned Bill, which I

1061
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,199
think is smart. You know, let's let tackle Berry have

1062
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,320
the relationship in this film, the romance, but definitely could

1063
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,320
have used we just let's put another female character in

1064
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,320
there instead a factler.

1065
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:31,599
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent with you on that one. Factler

1066
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:32,639
doesn't do anything for me.

1067
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,559
Speaker 2: Okay. They didn't give him anything to do or to

1068
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:39,719
make him essential to any of the plot in the

1069
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,119
high jinks that he's involved with. I didn't find that amusing,

1070
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:45,599
so I didn't know his purpose. One hundred percent agree.

1071
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,239
All right.

1072
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: Last question, all right, is this going to be the

1073
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,880
last police Academy we have reviewed for this podcast?

1074
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,039
Speaker 2: We haven't even gotten the review. But no, not at all.

1075
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,199
I want to be a completist. I mean, wa, wait,

1076
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,800
when was the last When did the last film come

1077
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,119
out year? That's a good question. I did not know

1078
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:07,159
the answer. All right, Well, we'll do all we got

1079
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:10,079
to do all the eighties police Academies. At least. I

1080
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:13,920
have no doubt there'll be things. They'll be positive takeaways.

1081
00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:18,199
I was just but it's interesting that your commentary being

1082
00:53:18,199 --> 00:53:19,960
that you could see the writing on the wall the

1083
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,400
direction that it was going in, So it'll be interesting.

1084
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,360
But maybe if I know what it is now, I'll

1085
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,639
have a different mindset going into the next one, and

1086
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,800
I'll just be a little bit more. Hey, it is

1087
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,719
what it is. Enjoy it for what it is. Let's

1088
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:36,760
not take it too seriously.

1089
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: Well three is back in training, just say now, so

1090
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,880
at least go back to police Academy.

1091
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1092
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: All right, all right, and with that being said, let's

1093
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,519
move on to our rating. So on a scale of

1094
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:50,280
one to five police badges, what do you give Police

1095
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,840
Academy two their first assignment? All right, well, I got

1096
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,039
to give this too. I'm giving it to police Badges.

1097
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,559
It's one of my lowest ratings. I'm sorry to say,

1098
00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:01,840
but this did not work for me. I did not

1099
00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:04,519
think the writing was strong. I didn't think the direction

1100
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:04,960
was strong.

1101
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 2: I don't think the editing did anyone any favors because

1102
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,880
comedy is timing and a lot of the jokes fell

1103
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,159
flat because the delivery and or pacing of the way

1104
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:21,119
it was cut was just too It was stuck in

1105
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:23,360
mud in moments and I was like, ooh, that just

1106
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:29,320
falls like a thud. And so yeah, but again, good

1107
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,480
to see these actors. They are serviceable and more. I mean,

1108
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:37,400
we talk about Michael Winslow. He's funny, you know, Tackle

1109
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,880
Berry Dave Graff was a standout, and I mentioned to

1110
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,000
the character of Proctor. I enjoyed him his introduction into

1111
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:47,760
this franchise in this film. So, yeah, the jokes didn't

1112
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,679
land for me. And I didn't know what the you know,

1113
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,480
kind of what the point of this was. If there

1114
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:56,559
weren't going there was not really be a story at all.

1115
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,840
It was just so loose, and then they didn't engage

1116
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:03,719
into the actual plot line with the gang until the

1117
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,199
end and like twenty minutes left, So that just didn't

1118
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,199
work it all for me. It was just confusing as

1119
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,440
to what changed from the first film to the second,

1120
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,199
But I think we discovered some of that in trivia,

1121
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,599
So it just that's just my opinion.

1122
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,119
Speaker 1: This one didn't work for me. So two police badges,

1123
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:22,400
two police badges. See, I I was going back and

1124
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,360
forth between two and a half and three. I always

1125
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,280
feel like I should be a little bit higher than you,

1126
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,719
but I don't want to go too high. Yeah, the

1127
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,519
shame I can't give it a two point seventy five.

1128
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,360
I'll give it a strong two and a half then,

1129
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:37,239
because I do like the characters. I do like some

1130
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,039
of the situations that they're in. Yeah, the third act

1131
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,159
is terrible. There's only two highlights in the last twenty minutes,

1132
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,440
but I kind of like to see where they were

1133
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,119
going from the first one. But yeah, the fact that

1134
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:52,000
you're still rehashing the same gags, which you will do

1135
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:55,840
in the next couple of movies. And some of the

1136
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,679
characters were definitely under used. But I think because I

1137
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,159
do like Tackleberry a lot, that kind of helped. Michael

1138
00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:07,159
Winslow did have some fun stuff in it, so that helped.

1139
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:11,639
But it's not necessarily a good movie. But there's enough

1140
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,440
in it for me too like it. I can see

1141
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,920
myself going back and watching it again. But it's not

1142
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,800
a must watch.

1143
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. That's the thing is like, would

1144
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,440
you recommend it? Do you think? See? I personally would

1145
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,639
not recommend this film. I would recommend a scene or two.

1146
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:30,960
I would recommend the Michael Winslow martial arts sequence. Just

1147
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:34,119
watch that scene on YouTube because that's really fun. Or

1148
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,920
do you think your kids when they become you know, well,

1149
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:41,920
that's crazy growing so fast the teenagers, do you think

1150
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,079
they get a kick out of this now? Or is

1151
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,760
my son might the eighties kind of sense of humor.

1152
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,679
It might be the right age for this. Okay, yeah

1153
00:56:51,639 --> 00:56:52,360
it was what I should have.

1154
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that my additional thoughts. I think if you're

1155
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,880
you're a grown adult and you're watching this for the

1156
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,239
first time, not to so much, but yeah, I think

1157
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:03,599
if you're gonna watch it you with your teenage kids,

1158
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,440
you might kick.

1159
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: Out up with that. How does the takeaway?

1160
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,559
Speaker 1: So that wraps it up for this week's episode. Thank

1161
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:10,840
you so much for hanging out with us.

1162
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it.

1163
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:14,079
Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the show, be sure to follow us

1164
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:17,119
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1165
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:19,679
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1166
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,639
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1167
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Speaker 2: We'll catch you.

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Speaker 1: Next time as we jump into another unforgettable gem from

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the greatest movie decade of all times, the nineteen eighties.

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Till then, stay awesome and have an excellent day. You

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have the right to remain silent. You have the right

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to a quarter a point attorney. You have the right

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to sing the blues.

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Speaker 2: You have the right to cable TV that's very important.

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You have the right to sublet, you have the right

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to paint the walls, and you know a lot of colors.

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Thanks for staying up with us. Good Night, World Academy Commandant,

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and funck this. Okay, here we go.