WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.240 Check Podcasts. 2 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:10.160 Thanks for listening to the Donnie and Dolly Podcast. Catch 3 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.279 the show Monday through Fudday, ten am to noon on Check. 4 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:15.320 I think you're gonna want to hear this. 5 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:20.280 Your local sports coverage lives here. 6 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:21.199 Two nothing. 7 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:25.839 It's Alva not so fast Coho breath with Don Taylor. 8 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.480 I say that the winner of the Draft lottery should 9 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:29.719 be the winner of a two man loose. 10 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:32.479 And Rick Dolly Wall I had a cherry tree up 11 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:34.439 little Ricky. I used to go up that tree and 12 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:36.240 just sit there for hours and a bunch of new 13 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:37.159 Jery years. 14 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:42.399 Donnie and Dolly. 15 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.200 Ten o'clock at Downtown That Cooper run the Paul Carson Studio. 16 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.359 Thanks for tuning in, folks. It's Donnie and Dolly the 17 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.719 team on Check. Don Taylor, along with Rick Dollywall. Ryan 18 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:52.200 Henderson is our producer. He's the man of the controls, 19 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:57.240 our director, the voice of God Fresh on vacation, Derek Wong, 20 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:02.280 how are you couldn't be better? The NHL Draft Lottery 21 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:07.079 goes today four o'clock Pacific. The Canucks with the best lads, 22 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:12.519 best odds of landing the number one pick. We'll deal 23 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:16.519 with that a little bit later. A lot of history 24 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:19.200 there with the Canucks when it comes to the draft lottery. 25 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.680 None of it good. No. In the meantime, we're going 26 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.120 to focus, as we have for so long now on 27 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:30.680 the Canucks search for a new general manager, possibly a 28 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:36.760 new replacement for our replacement for Jim Rutherford. Pierre Dorian 29 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:40.200 is getting all sorts of traction right. There are people 30 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:43.719 reporting that he's going to be the Caducks next general manager, 31 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:48.760 replacing Patrick Alvin. So the lesson from Vancouver and Toronto, 32 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.920 if indeed this happens, is that if you do a 33 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:56.200 poor job and you break the rules, you can be 34 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.840 the general manager of a Canadian national hockey league. 35 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:02.280 And if you're at a big if you're not working 36 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:05.959 for a few years, step right up. It's okay, It's okay. 37 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:09.240 John Chaika, Keith Pelly and Matt Sendin could not have 38 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:13.479 come across more uncomfortable than they did yesterday with the Leafs. 39 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:17.120 But that's a matter for another city. Let's focus on 40 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:19.400 the Canucks. What are you hearing? And we talked about 41 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:24.280 Pierre Dorian yesterday about him getting two interviews, one of 42 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:27.039 which was in person. What's the latest? 43 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.879 So there is no question that Pierre Dorian is named 44 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.680 Don one of the leading candidates to be named the 45 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:34.680 new GM of the Canucks. But I want to say 46 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.000 this too, he's not been hired. Other top candidates I 47 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:41.599 know have not been told they are out. This is 48 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:45.639 a process on going, not imminent today or tomorrow. This 49 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.280 could take a few more days before they find someone. 50 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:51.639 Ryan Johnson is still in the mix today. You can 51 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:54.919 be a strong candidate, Don and maybe somebody passes you 52 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:57.199 in a couple of days or a week or whatever. 53 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:01.960 But definitely hearing a lot about guy Dorian. Now we 54 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:05.680 know they wanted experience. He impressed, like I will tell you, 55 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:09.360 he impressed in his interviews with Vancouver Dorian. One thing 56 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:11.840 that could be appealing for the Canucks is that Dorian 57 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:15.000 has moved bad contracts in the past. He moved Eric 58 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.879 Carlson in twenty eighteen. Well, there is there not a 59 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:21.560 bad contract in Vancouver, Dot right now that you are you, 60 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:24.840 you are that you harp on every day the week. Well, 61 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:29.120 guess what it is hard to do rebuilds with bad contracts. 62 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:32.360 He has traded a ton of big names in Canadian market. 63 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:38.599 He's done that, and surely he can move Ellie's Petterson right, right, surely, surely, hey, 64 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.240 a general manager in the Western Hockey League can move 65 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:44.840 Petterson if the owner decided to take money back every year. 66 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:47.879 It's not hard to do. The moment the owner says, okay, 67 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:50.599 I'll retain for six more years. That deals. 68 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:53.400 That's so easy. Why are they Why is Jim Rutherford 69 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:54.000 sticking around? 70 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:54.199 Wow? 71 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:59.840 Great question. I can see why Francesco Aclini likes Dorian. 72 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:00.759 I'll tell you why. 73 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:01.759 Experience. 74 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:04.599 He's got it worked in the Canadian market, got It, 75 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.680 dealt with Canadian media. Got It has established relationships in 76 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.599 the NHL. Got It has worked with the Demanding order 77 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:15.000 before got It. So you're all for this, don't you 78 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.040 put words in my mouth. I never said that. 79 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.759 You just said you can see why Francesco aquall. 80 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:22.079 Did I say, I can see why? 81 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:25.399 I yeah, I know you can see why he would 82 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.720 be impressed by Pierre Dorian. I hope and this happens 83 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:30.800 a lot in the corporate world. You know this. Yes, 84 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:33.879 you've worked for Bell and Rogers and everybody else. 85 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:35.040 Uh. 86 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:39.079 I hope that they're not hiring somebody strictly based on 87 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:41.920 how they come across and interviews. People can pull the 88 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:45.120 wool over I get the fielding. That's what happened in 89 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:48.959 Toronto as a matter of fact. But that's what that's 90 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:52.800 that's my opinion. I hope they can separate the two things. 91 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:55.920 Is this guy the right person for the job or 92 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:58.519 is he just somebody who gave gave good interview? 93 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:01.519 Come on, he impressed in the interviews, is what I've 94 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:04.839 been told. But here's the thing don that I don't get. 95 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.439 He was fired in Ottawa for botching up a trade. 96 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:10.800 Do you know the guy that helped him botch up 97 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:13.240 that trade was Ryan Bonus. They worked together on botch 98 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.839 He's also still in the mix. So two of the 99 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.920 Canucks finalists for the GM job in Vancouver are two 100 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:22.639 guys who screwed up a trade together in twenty twenty three. 101 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:25.959 That is amazing to me that two guys are on 102 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.160 the short list. One guy many outlets today think is 103 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:32.480 going to get the GM job. Two guys are screwed 104 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:34.480 up a trade in twenty twenty three, or two of 105 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:35.160 the finalists, And. 106 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:38.040 So who's still alive? O? Let me, let me let 107 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.639 me start here, Let me start here. OK, we're understanding 108 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:45.199 today that Shane Doan is no longer a candidate to 109 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:47.399 join the Knucks organization? Have I got that right? 110 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:52.079 That story was broken out of Arizona yesterday? First we 111 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:55.800 reports out of Arizona dones out in Vancouver. Here's what 112 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:57.959 I was told about Shane Doan got a zoom interview. 113 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.800 I don't think don can't get confirmation that he got 114 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:05.199 the second in person interview. I don't know what happened 115 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:07.920 with Shane don't. Maybe he wanted the president's job. The 116 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:10.040 Canucks don't want to hire a president because they got one. 117 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:12.360 I don't know. I'm trying to work on that, but 118 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.160 I've been told he did not get an in person interview. 119 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:20.439 Reports out of Arizona first yesterday that dones out in Vancouver. 120 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:22.959 Evan Gold Boston. 121 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:24.839 As far as I'm concerned, Evan Gold's in the mix, 122 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:28.000 Ryan Johnson in the mix, assistant GM and bonuses in 123 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:32.240 the mix. Langan Brunner is another name. We're hearing that. 124 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:36.240 Brett Patterson from Florida. Is he still in the mix. 125 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:38.160 So there's none. 126 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.839 Of these guys have experiences at GM and not a 127 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:41.680 Canadian market. 128 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:44.519 And so why is Dorian So why is Dorian's name 129 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:46.199 coming up hot and heavy today? 130 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:46.480 Hot? 131 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.120 I'm telling you heavy, hot and heavy. It's it's hot 132 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:50.560 and heavy today experience. 133 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:51.319 Uh. 134 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.560 This owner has clearly stated he doesn't want to hire 135 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.319 a third straight rookie GM. He's scared. He's scared. 136 00:06:57.399 --> 00:06:59.120 Gillis was a rookie GM and it worked out. 137 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.639 I saw out some don't. His last two gms didn't 138 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:06.560 work out, Jim Benning and Patrick Alvin rookie gms didn't 139 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.439 work out, don And that's combined, those two combined for 140 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:11.199 eleven years. 141 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:15.079 And where are the connects with Ryan Johnson? Because I 142 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:19.319 know what's gonna happen here, and I'll and people a 143 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:21.120 few years from now will go man done, you were 144 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:25.959 bang on, which is often the case. They're going to 145 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:30.519 hire Pierre Dorian and the rebuild will go or whatever 146 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:36.519 they're gonna call it, retool, small R rebuild, high high bred, retool, whatever, 147 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:40.199 it'll go awry. Ryan Johnson will go to the Nashville 148 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:43.399 Predators and excel. Oh mark that down. 149 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:48.160 Market been around for a long time, Ryan, get that 150 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:50.759 mark down the time. Donny said that mark down the time. 151 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:52.519 My biggest fear is Ryan Johnson. 152 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:52.839 Where are we? 153 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:55.560 You just said something that I got to touch on. 154 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:57.480 My biggest fear is that Dorian went in there and 155 00:07:57.519 --> 00:07:59.800 said I could fix this in two years. That's that's 156 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:00.639 my biggest fear. 157 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:04.920 Please don't tell me that. I I want to hear that. 158 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.439 I told you why I think the Canucks like Dorian. 159 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:10.160 But my biggest fear is this owner fell in love 160 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:11.800 with Dorian because he told him I can fix it 161 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:12.399 in two years. 162 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:15.000 That would be been there, done that. That's what every 163 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:17.000 Knuck fan is saying right now. 164 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.560 The biggest nightmare in the history of the Canucks is 165 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:22.399 if Dorian went in there and said, I'll fix it 166 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.040 in two years. Hook line sink You're in. That's the 167 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:28.199 biggest fear of any bet Ryan Johnson, you don't hear 168 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:30.439 much about him. I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm 169 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:32.080 not gonna lie to you. As every day goes by, 170 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:34.360 I think the chances of Ryan are less and less. 171 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:36.919 I don't hear his name. We hear all these others. 172 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.600 You say to me, Shane, don't Evan Goal, Ryan Bonus, Langer, Bruner, 173 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:44.679 Lawrence Gilman. But you know Lawrence Gilman is not in 174 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:48.600 the mix of Vancouver. I was told Columbus yesterday. I 175 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.480 was told by he's with them. The Canucks have not 176 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.759 asked for permission to talk to Lawrence Gilman. I think 177 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.000 him and Mike Gillis is a pipe dream. It's too late. 178 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:00.200 I think they're so far ahead in this don They 179 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:02.639 got so many needs with Dorian. You mean all these guys, 180 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:05.440 all these guys, it's hard to bring these. As of 181 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:08.799 yesterday morning, they had not called Columbus for permission to 182 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:09.639 talk to Gilmot. 183 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:14.039 So Pierre Dorian, as of this morning, has emerged as 184 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:16.720 I would say, the number one candidate to take over 185 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:22.399 from Patrick Alvin twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three. That's 186 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:29.159 when he was the Ottawa Senators general manager under Eugene Melnick. Ryan, 187 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.559 do we have that board of the moves or the 188 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.960 trades that what's going on? Do we have it? Or 189 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:39.600 you're scratching yourself there? Okay, Derek, we got it all right? Good, 190 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.720 there you go. So significant Pierre Dorian moves in Audawa. 191 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:47.080 This wasn't good. Traded micause A Jinabad and a second 192 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:49.159 round pick to the Rangers for Derek Prissard and a 193 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:54.279 seventh rounder. Zabina Jed went on to become i'd say 194 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:56.799 a pillar for the New York Every part of the 195 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:01.440 mark Stone to Vegas for Oscar Lindburg, Eric Branstrom and 196 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:07.000 a second rounder Eric Carlson to San Jose for package 197 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.639 that included Josh Norris a twenty twenty first round pick 198 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:11.480 that was used for Tim Stoots, so that that was 199 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.639 a good deal. He failed to make Vegas this is 200 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:17.039 this is the mistake he made where he broke the 201 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:19.440 broke the rules. And Ryan Bonus was in on this 202 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:22.360 as well. Failed to make Vegas aware of the Jenny 203 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.960 Dad nosst ten team no trade list, resulting in a 204 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:29.360 trade between Vegas and Anaheim getting squashed in twenty twenty two. 205 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.879 And not long after that he lost his job. And 206 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:33.279 that's what I was saying at the start of the 207 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:36.960 show that John Jacobs shockingly against that job with the 208 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:40.000 Leafs after getting in trouble with the Coyotes and with 209 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:42.879 the league to the point where he lost his job, 210 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:45.080 and the same thing with Pierre during during and now 211 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:48.840 we understand that he's gonna he's seemingly on the verge 212 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:51.320 of taking over the conuction job. That's a little surprising, 213 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:54.000 I should mention. On the positive side, is there another 214 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.759 part to this board, by the way, No, okay, So 215 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:02.000 drafting wise, Pierre during rag about this, and rightfully so. 216 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:07.600 We mentioned that twenty twenty draft. Yeah, Tim Stuttzell taken 217 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.679 by the Ottawa Senators third overall. They also got Jake 218 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:16.159 Sanderson fifth overall and Ridley greg twenty eighth overall, all 219 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:19.120 of whom have played around two hundred and forty NHL 220 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:23.360 games or more, in the case of Tim stuttsl four 221 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:25.720 hundred and forty seven games. It's how scouts look at 222 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:28.200 it was at a successful draft. Well, how many games 223 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.320 did the guy play? And Jake Sanderson three hundred and 224 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:34.039 three games. Todder Clevin was in that draft as well. 225 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:38.080 That's an outstanding draft by any measure for any team. 226 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:41.080 So you give Pierre Dorian that. It's just that this 227 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:46.440 this name Rick wasn't mentioned until the last couple of days. 228 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.000 I'm taking a lot of people by surprise. 229 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.679 Yeah, and again today he's the hot name. We're not 230 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.480 saying he's getting hired. There's either interview. Guys have not 231 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.559 been Ryan Johnson hasn't been told he's out. Other guys 232 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:00.960 haven't been told there out. It's a hot name today. 233 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:04.679 Hearing a lot about it. A lot of media outlets 234 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.279 are reporting that he's the hot name and he could 235 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:10.200 be the new GM, but it's not done. The process continues. 236 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:14.720 They haven't told anyone they're out, So let the process 237 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:17.159 play out and let's see what happens. But definitely a 238 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.200 lot of buzz about Dorian today for sure. 239 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.159 Okay, we got we gotta take a break, so we're 240 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.720 gonna deal. This is such a big day in connuct 241 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:28.639 for Conduct Nation NHL draft lottery connects with the best 242 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.879 odds of landing that number one overall slot for the 243 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.600 June National Hockey League Draft. We'll deal with that. And 244 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:40.519 if you're a long time Conduct follower sufferer, you know 245 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.080 that the draft lottery we talked about it earlier has 246 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.039 not been kind to the banker of ecnducts. Here's what's 247 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.399 coming up on the show, DTMC Is it just me 248 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:51.440 in the eleven o'clock hour. Craig Button will join us 249 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:55.000 just after eleven o'clock former National Hockey League General manager. 250 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:58.120 We'll see what he thinks of Pierre Duran and Ryan 251 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.200 Bonus and maybe some names we don't know much about it, 252 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.960 like like Evan gold a big ride, the quitter guy 253 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:09.240 coming up later this hour, and up next Jamie mcclennan 254 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.240 does Attawa Senators are broadcasts. He knows about Pierre Dorian. 255 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.720 He's going to join us next. Jamie mcclennan noodles next 256 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.240 from TSN. 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That's sales 268 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:08.200 at ab l E Auctions dot ca. It is Tuesday 269 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:10.080 and all of our guests today brought to you by 270 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:15.879 our title sponsor Able Auctions able Auctions dot c a 271 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:19.519 as we bring in from TSN. Noodles Jamie mcclennan, who 272 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.320 couldn't join us yesterday as he normally does every second 273 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:25.360 week on on a Monday, but he joins us today, Jamie, 274 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:26.240 thanks for doing this, sir. 275 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.519 How are you not too bad? How are you guys 276 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:29.039 doing today? 277 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:33.879 Very well? You're very familiar with the Ottawa Senators. What 278 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:38.000 goes through your mind when you hear about Pierre Dorian 279 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.840 being a strong candidate to take over as Canucks GM. 280 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.799 Well, I mean the one thing that if you're a 281 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.840 Sins fan or I you know, work closely to the team, 282 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:52.960 is pretty good talent evaluator. If you look at his 283 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:56.840 draft record, I mean that first round that they had, 284 00:14:57.039 --> 00:15:01.240 which included tim stouts like Jake Sanderson, Ridley greg All 285 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:04.399 in one draft. I mean that's three cornerstone pieces to 286 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:08.840 an organization that are you know, going to be pretty 287 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:12.440 much successful for years to come. So I look at Pierre. 288 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:15.960 Every manager makes mistakes. I'm sure he would say that too, 289 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.240 but you know, in the end, you know he signed 290 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:21.679 Drake Bathurson. A lot of these guys are on term 291 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:25.440 deals and they're pretty value contracts for instead of considering 292 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.960 what they bring to the table. So Pierre Dorian's name, 293 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.039 I did hear that. I've heard a lot of different names, 294 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:35.759 so I don't know where they land. But again, sometimes 295 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:38.519 you're better in your second situation than you are first. 296 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.279 But I look at a guy like Pierre Dorian, who's 297 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.039 you know, set the Ottawa Senators up for years and 298 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:47.240 done a pretty good job in certain situations for them. Yes, 299 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:49.440 there are other things where there was a you know, 300 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.679 the draft pick that they lost. I can't remember what 301 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:56.799 trade was that dead enough Dad enough, So that didn't 302 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:59.600 go so well. So as much as there's positive, there 303 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:03.480 is negative. Like any manager, you know, the best managers 304 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:06.600 in the league still have missus and still have mistakes 305 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.519 on their on their docket. But it's how you learn 306 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:11.600 from them and how you're able to adapt and move on. 307 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:15.600 Someone else with a strong Autawa connection, And I'll hate 308 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:17.000 you with this, Jamie. I don't know how much you 309 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:20.360 know about him. But Ryan Bonus and also considered a 310 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:23.279 strong candidate for the for the Canucks job. What do 311 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:23.960 you know about him? 312 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:26.759 I know a lot about him and I love Ryan 313 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.240 as well. I think Ryan is a real progressive up 314 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:32.960 and coming. Obviously it runs in the family. His dad 315 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.799 is one of the most beloved coaches of all time. 316 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:38.679 You know this is that Kevin Bake and the six 317 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:43.440 degrees of the Bonus family. Because you know, I've had 318 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:46.720 Rick as a coach with the Islanders, obviously cross paths 319 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:49.200 with him in a lot of hockey circles. Ryan, you know, 320 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:53.240 was the AGM with the Ottawa Senators, did a terrific job. 321 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.960 I think he's a great talented evaluator as well. So 322 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.440 you know, you never know how guys going to be 323 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.759 until they actually get into the chair, because being an 324 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.480 assistant GM is so much different than being in the 325 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:07.160 main chair. 326 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:10.000 But I think, you know, hockey runs in his blood. 327 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.440 I think Ryan Bonus is going to be a manager 328 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.359 in the league, whether that's in Vancouver or somewhere else. 329 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:17.200 It's just a matter of time for him. 330 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:20.480 I think he's a fantastic human and and would be 331 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.200 an unbelievable candidate as well as Dorian. 332 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:26.000 I know you're located back he's but what do you 333 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:29.559 think Ryan Johnson is thinking of this whole process. He's 334 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:32.759 been such a solid soldier for the vankor for Canucks. 335 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:34.920 You know, it's funny. 336 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:39.000 I spoke to somebody this morning that you know, has 337 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:41.799 connections to the Canucks as far as you know, just 338 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.359 ties to the organization and said it would be a 339 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:49.480 travesty if Marj didn't get that job. And for what 340 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:53.880 he's it's almost like drafting and developing. They have developed 341 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:58.240 him within the organization, He's learned under you know, everybody there, 342 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.759 and to me, he should be the number one candidate. 343 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:04.319 But again you have to do your due diligence. 344 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.759 Doesn't mean they don't land on him or keep him 345 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.839 in the organization as a very valuable piece. But I 346 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.839 think RJ's another wonderful candidate. When you're looking at some 347 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:18.000 of the people that could could you know, succeed, I 348 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:19.640 think he would be one of them. And you look 349 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.880 at his track record even within the organization, and how 350 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.799 well he's done in Abbotsford and how well respected he is. 351 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:29.720 You know, I wouldn't say I would be shocked if 352 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:31.960 he became the GM, because I think it would be 353 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.759 the natural progression. I would be more shocked if he 354 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:38.279 didn't at least get a serious consideration for it, based 355 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:40.400 on he's right in your backyard and you know him 356 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:42.359 and you know the fiber of the human beings. So 357 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:44.920 a lot of good things about RJ. And you know, 358 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:47.000 I do believe it's just a matter of time for 359 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:49.200 him getting in the chair again. I hope it's in 360 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:52.279 Vancouver because they have developed him. If it's not, it'll 361 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:52.960 be somewhere else. 362 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:56.240 Hey, Jamie, what about John Jaco, the new GM of 363 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.200 the may Police the press conference yesterday? What did you 364 00:18:59.279 --> 00:18:59.640 think of it? 365 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:03.480 Chris Johnston was in the building and he used the 366 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.799 word uncomfortable. I don't you know. 367 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.359 The one thing that I always try and remove emotion 368 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:16.519 from is you can't win or lose a like a 369 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.240 press conference. And then the from Mapleys over years have 370 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:23.279 tried to win press conferences and the last couple haven't 371 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.279 gone as well for them. I just want to sit 372 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:28.799 back and judge their body of work. And I actually 373 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:33.400 just used Pierre Dorian as an example. First time on 374 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.200 the job, probably learned a lot and your second time 375 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:39.680 is going to be a lot different based on some 376 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:42.279 of the relationships you have, some of the lessons you've 377 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.000 learned along the way. I've been trying to give John 378 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:50.000 Cheika that type of leeway as well. Let him settle in. 379 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:54.079 It's a different team, different resources. Keep in mind he 380 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:57.920 was running or I'm sorry, Arizona and Phoenix, so I 381 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:00.400 guess it was called with overs horses. 382 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:02.039 I mean the league was running it. 383 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:05.160 As far as finances, he had a crazy owner that was, 384 00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:08.079 you know, seem to be weird and do some weird things, 385 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.200 so you know, this is a different you know, it's 386 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.279 a different animal, though I will say it's not Arizona 387 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:15.000 like he is. 388 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:17.319 He was going from one of the most. 389 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:22.480 Obscure organizations to the biggest ones on planet Earth when 390 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:25.200 it comes to hockey coverage. So that's going to be 391 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:29.319 a culture shock for him. But yesterday was uncomfortable on 392 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.319 a lot of different levels. Uh not even the Steve 393 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:36.319 Steve sent Simmons question that you know, we all know 394 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:41.640 it shook the internet, but you know, Rosie Demando follows 395 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.240 up saying, you know, I'm still confused, where's the hierarchy, 396 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.200 Who's who's answering to who? And so there's still a 397 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:50.799 lot of questions out there. I think the one thing 398 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:52.920 they wanted to do is get through the press conference 399 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.480 and get to work. And they're on the clock tonight. 400 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:59.039 We'll see how the draft lottery goes. And same thing 401 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.599