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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back. It is the rass Ball Fantasy

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Baseball podcast. I am beat on, joined by the fantasy Master,

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Lithio himself, the one the only Gray.

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Speaker 2: All right, how's it going great?

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Speaker 3: Hey, good man? I actually this weekend, Cooogs and I

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went to the Dodger game. Right, well, we'll just we'll

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discuss the top one hundred for the second half and

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in one second, I have a I have a quick

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anecdote for you. So we had, uh, we had great

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seats right behind home plate. We were in the the

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Mary Hart section as uh it's referred to in the

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Albright household. Anyway, So we're we're about five rows behind

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Mary Heart. We were on Uh, we were on TV

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the entire game, like right by behind, like over home plate,

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right shoulder. Anyway, so we got these tickets from it

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was Saturday's game, Saturday's Dodger game. It was actually it

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was a terrible Dodgers game. Probably more interesting to count

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the number of times I picked my nose versus what

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the Dodgers were doing. But anyway, so we were So

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we got these tickets from a neighbor. And afterwards Sunday yesterday,

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we're recording this on Monday yesterday, Cooog's runs into the

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neighbor and you know, it says thank you, so nice.

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Tickets were great, and Gray was saying that, you know,

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James McCann hit two home runs in Saturday's game. And

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Gray was saying that we were at the game where

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the worst player in baseball hit two home runs and

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the and our neighbor said, no, James McCann is not

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the worst player. He's not the worst hitter in baseball.

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And uhcuss, like, what, well, who who is the worst hitter?

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In your estimate? Your estimate, your estimate? Uh and uh,

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he says unprompted, he says the worst hitter in baseball

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is Matt McLean. I was like, oh, I gotta, oh,

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I gotta tell be done that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's some argument to say he might

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be correct, you know.

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Speaker 4: I would point like Brian Hayes and uh Prince South

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Perez like uh Uhli Luis Franifo.

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Speaker 1: But he's not in the majors anymore, so I guess

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I can't really say him. I would say there's some

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others above Matt McLain, but yeah, he's probably.

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Speaker 2: He's probably in that discussion.

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Speaker 3: I've been I've been laying him for a good twenty

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four hours straight. Oh my cook told me that. I

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was like, oh my, he did not say Matt McLean

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like you Why do you know? I was like, that's

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beat on his favorite player.

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Speaker 1: You know what, gret I will say, I have zero

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shares of Matt McLean. So as much as I like him,

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I did not let the preseason I move my my

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affection for him even further down the line.

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Speaker 2: So, at least to that side, it wasn't me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah anyway, man, I mean James M.

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Speaker 1: For being clear here James mckinn.

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Speaker 3: No, the way James mccannon hit two homers on Saturday.

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Those were his first two homers all season. It's terrible.

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He's hitting like two fifteen. He's terrible. And the guy

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says Mad MacLean is worse. I was like, by the way,

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the guy our neighbor is like an eighty year old doctor, Like, uh,

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I doesn't even know Mad MacLean is. It's like I was, like, goods,

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does the doctor listen to the podcast? Man?

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Speaker 1: Is he Korean? Is he part of the Korean listening compulation?

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for what it's worth. Mad McLain has been quite as

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bad recently, but yeah, still still bad. Gray. I don't

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think he's making it on this top one hundred list

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that we're gonna talk about. Why don't you give the

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people the the the second half ranking introduction talk about

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how you come up with these rankings. Is it's different

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than what you do in the preseason, how you weigh

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you know, what they've already done versus previous seasons or expectations.

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Speaker 2: Just just walk us through your your ranking process.

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Speaker 3: Great, Oh yeah, so I have this giant hat where

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I write the names of the players on a piece

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of paper. Okay, So I actually so I do. I

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rely pretty heavily in the second half rankings. I rely

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pretty heavily on the rest of the season player raider

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as well as the actual play raider. So I uh,

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and in the preseason I'm probably I'm I lean more,

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no ADP for the second half. So yeah, it's a

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it's a combination of what a player has done versus

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like the player raider and they're ranking currently on that,

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there is a little bit of like what have you

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done for me lately? But also what have you done

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for me super lately? For like like this weekend alone,

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there it felt like there was all these pictures who

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got hit hard, and it was like, Okay, at a

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certain point, like I think it was like Thursday or Friday,

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stop adjusting the rankings here, because like I can't get

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down to like like it is, there is an element

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of like what have you done for me lately? But

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looking at what a pitcher or a hitter has done

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for like one game. So it's like at a certain

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point you have to step back and say, okay, like

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player did the first half, but it can't be like

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what did the player do in the last half inning

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of his last start or something, so you know, so

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there is so it's like you get a delicate balance

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of what a player's done lately versus what a player

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should be doing. And then also you know I've mentioned

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this before, but I I also look at like, you know, pitchers,

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and I move pitchers and catchers and closers. I move

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those guys up because at this point, if you're looking

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to actually make a move in your standings, like and

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that's really like second and half second half rankings are

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really like who cares other than to look at them

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to see like maybe if you're looking to make a

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trade or something, because you're not drafting, like no, like

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very few people are actually using these rankings as like

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a drafting tool, because you know, drafts are over except

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where you know, they're like a couple super crazy addictive

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fantasy baseball people are actually doing drafts during the All

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drafting tools. They're looking at more as like a trading tool. Like, Okay,

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I have you know, I have, say James Wood, and

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you know he has him above you know so and

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so so I could trade possibly so and so for

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James Wood or so you know, or whatever the case is.

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pitchers and catchers and closers differently in the second half

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rankings because like I feel like at this point, like

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standings and make a t that can actually make a difference,

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a pitcher in a trade, it's like you know, picking

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up uh, you know, Zach Thornton the news, the new

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sixth pitcher in the Mets rotation, Like making a difference

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between him and like someone else it's not gonna make

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a big difference. So it's like, you know, it's like

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Zach Norton is Zach Thorton or Sean Maniyah. For some reason,

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this person can only deal with the Mets pitchers. But

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if it's like if it's a difference between those guys,

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it's like, who cares. But if you're looking to actually

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make a real move and standings and make a real trade,

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then I'm you know, in the preseason, I I say,

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don't draft, you know, top starters. But at this point,

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you know, and I say that in the preseason because

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starters are so fluky, like no one was expecting Misroski

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to be the number one starter in the first half,

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so you know, like, but now we're at a point

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where you have a large enough sample size where you

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you know who's a good starter and who's a bad starter.

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a move in the pitching standings and trading for a

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top pitcher is the move, Like you if you want

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to move like Ellie de la Cruz for like a

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top you know, starter move Ellie de la Cruz for

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a top starter like this is like, if you can

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make a difference in your standings, go for it. And

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like there's so much, uh, you know, between the preseason

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and now, there's so much a of a like, there's

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so much difference of value between what we thought a

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guy would be doing versus what a guy is actually doing.

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solid foundation as to what a guy is actually doing

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this year. So you know, if you need to go

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time to do it. And you know, the rankings are

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hopefully a tool to help you sort of get ideas

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to where I think guys have you know, will be

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going for the second half and where they should be, like,

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you know, and even even this, like we could get

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the second half and you know, an injury could happen,

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and it could you know, change the whole dynamic here.

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and start getting into those then Gray

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number one for you, no surprise, it is Shoheo TODDI.

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Number two is Bobby Witt Junior. I think the questions

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would come in and starting at number three, and who

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you have is one Soto at three fine season, he's

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twenty one and run seven so on bases he's hitting

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two ninety four or five five sixty two with the

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best strikeout rate of his career. You know, I think

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the question is that kind of a safety three just

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track record? We know he's a great player, you're not

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going to really shouldn't be really disappointed, or is he

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actually a third best? You know, there's guys like James

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Wood PCA who have had better seasons for the player raider,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I would say that's exactly It's about the

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value of a guy like Juan Soto and what he's

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you know, and his stability in his stats over the

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course of like his you know, basically his whole career.

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If you know, if you're looking for more upside, I'm fine,

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you know, Movingjan Soto down and someone else up. But yeah, no,

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I felt like Jan Soda was just the safest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is fair, and we've seen even last year

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James Wood Pca both fill up really hard in the

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Speaker 1: Either of them, being they're very young, very talented, but

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you never know, so I don't have a problem with it.

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I just kind of wanted to clear it up for

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our listeners. And if you are chasing stuff, maybe you

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do need to go after that that high upside play,

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especially if you need steels you're you know, you're generally

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Despite what happened last year. I don't think he's necessarily

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on on that kind of run this year, given that

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your number two starting pitcher is Treek Scoba, who comes

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not quite that top level that we've come to expect,

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you know, Is it just that he's he's so consistent

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and that's why he comes in a number two. You know,

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in your right up you mentioned the possibility of trades

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as well. Would you be concerned if you know, he

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does get traded and moves to a different park, different league.

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What are your thoughts here on scoob? But why is

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he coming as a top ten player for you? Mmmm?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know I was. I think between it was

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between him and Wheeler and who else?

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Speaker 2: Chris Sanchez? Right, so maybe Yamamoto if you want to

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throw him.

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Speaker 3: In, Right, So Chris Sanchez and uh actually Yamamoto, who

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is who pitched on Saturday and he got he got

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rocked by James McCann. Yeah, so Sanchez and Yama. Well,

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Sanchez specifically, I bumped him down due to his July

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a little bit. I mean I still have him pretty high,

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but I did bump him down a little bit. And

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what we call it Yamamoto. As you know, I'm not

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a huge fan of Yamamoto because and especially at this point,

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because I do think the Dodgers have a chance to

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make the playoffs, right, there's a there's a possibility that

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they might actually beat out the Padres and Diamondbacks. For

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the Al West, and I would imagine at some point

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they're gonna want to throttle Yamamoto's innings, but I mean

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there has been really no sign of that. So you know,

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that's sort of just me, uh, you know, making up

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a story in my head. But I do think anyway.

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So I really felt like like Scoople, I mean Scooble

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to me, like his numbers, his overall numbers, Like I

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but uh, you know, actually he's pitching better on the

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or he's actually he's pitching better at home, I guess.

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But you know, I think there's a I think it's

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too much as made of home and road splits, because

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like a guy is If a guy is pitching well

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at home, he's pitching well at home wherever his home

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is like a school. And if schoobl gets traded to say,

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you know, I don't know the Brewers, I don't I

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don't know where he's going, but he should get traded.

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But if he if he could get traded to the

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Dodgers potentially, and you know, Camerica is a good park,

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but he'll like pitchers pitch at home better just in general,

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they're at home, they're you know, they're at their home base.

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it's just, I mean, it's just like human nature. So

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matter where it is, assuming the Rockies don't make a

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move for school, which I doubt, and I don't see

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him going to the A's either, So yeah, I think

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Scooble's Uh, I think Schooble's probably the safest start at

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the safest number two. I also, I mean, I think

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there's probably a case to be made that he could

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have been number one because of you know, Mesirowski, like

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as far as we know, as far as les I know, Uh,

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Mezziawski missed Sundays start because of you know, quote unquote fatigue,

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And I do think that's just a matter of them

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wanting to keep his innings down. But you know, with that,

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with that sort of you know in mind, we could

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get to September and Mezierawski and the Brewers could be like, well, Mesiawski,

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we want him to pitch the playoffs so we're gonna

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actually skip him in the final two weeks of the

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season and two weeks out of like a second half

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projections that could make a that could make a pretty

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big difference. Whereas Scooble if he gets traded, we actually

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I think we could get we get better Schooble versus

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worst Schooble if he gets traded, because like, you know,

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the team that he gets traded to, in theory, they

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are gonna be in the playoff chase, and you would

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assume that he's gonna be a rental. So if like

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the Yankees trade for Schooble, They're not gonna let up

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on them. They're gonna be like, go on, throw throw

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as many innings as you can. So he actually could

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end up being the best starter in the second half

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versus the number two one. So I'm actually I feel like,

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if anything, I might be too low on Schooble. But

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I felt like with the you know, because he was

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on the injury list, you know, earlier this year, and

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with the loose bodies removed from his elbow, I mean,

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you know, it seems like he's fine, but there's a

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little bit of risk I guess involved. There so, yeah,

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I left him at two, but I think he's as

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solid as anyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we haven't really seen him be bad,

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you know, him struggling is just slightly over a three

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ERA and sub one whip still with a thirty plus

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percent strikeout rate. So the struggle is not really a

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struggle so much as just not as elite as he

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was for the people listening. The home road splits are

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as such this year three nine three ERA at home,

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two four to zero on the road. For his career,

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he is a two seven e RA at home in

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a three four eight on the road. You know, I

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think my biggest thing on pitchers is not necessarily home away,

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but if they switch the leagues, I don't necessarily love that,

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either pitching or hitting. I feel like that's where some

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of the struggles can come in. Because you've been pitching

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to different people. You've never really had to deal with

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the scouting report of certain guys. You don't have that

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familiarity you do within your division, within your league.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes that concerns me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And it does seem like unless he's going I don't know,

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maybe the Yankees. Unless he's going there, I feel like

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a lot of the teams mentioned Earth and Hell, so

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that would be my one concern on Scooball. But as

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you've mentioned, he's been pretty phenomenal regardless of of where

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he's been.

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Speaker 3: How how how many prospects does uh, what's your book called?

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Have been in San Diego? Does he have any? Does

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he have any prospects? The trade? It's like he's doing

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a he's making Frenado touttist junior. He's he's like, hey,

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maybe he shaved to look a little bit younger, and

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we could sell you as like Frenado touttis junior junior,

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like here are here are least you're our best prospect

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that this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Potters would have to do a

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little bit of you know, quantity over quality if they

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were going to get into that. That makes uh less

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they're gonna start sending some major leaguers over Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think that they're They're really gonna be in uh in

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that discussion.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Gray, there is a j prellers like, uh, who

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can we make look young here? Looking around the clubhouse?

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Speaker 2: You want?

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Speaker 1: You want Manny Machano, He's he's he's a phenomenal young player.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely take him.

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Speaker 3: Gavin Sheets. What if we put some eyeshadow on you

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to look a little younger? How about botox, gabage Sheets computer.

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Speaker 1: Great, let's move on to the next picture, which is

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Mason Miller. You have at sixteen. Again, this is really

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just a discuss why we've diverted so far from preseason.

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Now you have Mason Miller, who is undoubtleated in one

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relief picture as a top twenty player.

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Speaker 3: Here. Yeah, well, I discussed a little bit in the opening,

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but I'll say again that like, you know, if you

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need saves, you can You're only gonna get so far,

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you know with the you know, say saving excuse me,

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You're only gonna get so far, like trading for you know,

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I don't know, Devin Williams or something like. It's like

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it's like you're you if you're gonna make a actual

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move in the standings and you need a closer, I

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say at this point, go for the you know, go

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for the best. Like I would never in a million

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years draft Mason Miller in the top you know, fifteen

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or sixteen overall or whatever. But if you know, right now,

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if I'm looking at actual like value for on the player,

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Raider and versus and the rest of the season. And

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I'm actually looking to make a move in the standings.

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Like I said, that's what the h you know, that's

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what the second half rankings are really for. Is about,

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like gauging a player's value for the second half and

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for potential trades. So if you're looking to make a

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move in saves, I say, you know, what the heck,

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go for it, man, get like you know, if you're

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you're like, uh, I want to be surprised if you

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can get Mason Miller and plus someone else for like

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one of the guys like around him in the second

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half ranking. So you know, for instance, like if it's

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like Corbyn Carrol, I mean, I don't know, you know,

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it's hard to know what people how people value players

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in you know, their league. But if you said, like

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if you said to me, like, oh, you can have

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Corbin Carroll plus you know, I don't know Jake Bauers

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or something like, I don't you know, I don't know

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how people value people or who people have. But if

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you could take like a top twenty hitter on the

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second half top one hundred and then also another piece

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and put them together and get that for Mason Miller,

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like me, because if you have Mason Miller right now,

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you may not need him anymore because you may have

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as many saves as you need. So like I'm talking,

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you know, from the Mason Miller owner's perspective, Like if

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you have Mason Miller, you trade them for like you

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trade them for Corman Carroll. That's great. And in my opinion,

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I would take Corman Carroll and another piece. Sure, why not?

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And if I have, you know, and if I need

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Mason Miller, you know, and you can trade someone for him,

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like you know, say like Matt Olsen or Chris Sale

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or something like you know, if it depends on what

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you're trading from, like where you're you know, where your

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strength lies. But I would take Mason Miller in a

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trade if I needed saves, and I would trade away

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Mason Miller if I didn't need saves. But I think, uh,

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you know, I think undoubtedly he is the number one closer.

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I mean I I you know, I have in an

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NL own league keeper league. Somehow I lucked in to

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having Mason Miller. Actually want to we want to talk

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about Gray's one good team. I have Mason Miller Meserawski,

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James Wood and C. J. Abrams. Somehow I'm in first place.

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I don't know. Maybe it's the fact I have four

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top fifteen players and it's an NL only league. But

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you know that get with that said, you know, I

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know how valuable Mason Miller is from having him in

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that league, and he is crazy valuable. So if you need,

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and especially I think that league is strikeouts divided by

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walks versus you know, straight strikeouts. So yeah, I mean,

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if you need, like, if you need a closer, you're

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not doing better than Mason Miller.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: In any other year he might actually be in the

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Young race, but probably not this year, unfortun for him.

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You mentioned Corbyn Carroll, so I'm just gonna talk talk

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about him real quick. Uh, if you owned Corbyn Carroll,

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you're probably looking at Gray's ranking and thinking and disgust

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to yourself that Gray is wrong. But you know, I'm

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I'm here to ask Gerry what he's thinking. Thirteen runs,

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tenstone bases to fifty two. Everything's fine. It's just not

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probably about the numbers you were looking at from Corbyn

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Carroll in the first half. You obviously had the injury

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coming into the season, but as someone who was looking

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at playing Eli White over Corbyn Carroll in an ill

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only league, I want to I want to recognize he

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has been struggle street for at least a few weeks now.

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Speaker 3: Eli whitebad, Huh.

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Speaker 2: I mean he is, I think on my only team.

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Speaker 1: He is the worst bat that is that that I've

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had over the last two or three weeks even, and

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that includes guys who were in the minors. So he's

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literally hurting my team versus me rolling out guys who

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are in the miners who were giving no.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's fair, he's uh. I wouldn't say he's worse

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than Matt McClean, though, would you.

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Speaker 2: Over the last you know, two weeks, three weeks? I

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actually would He's been he's been awful. Great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well okay, so I'll say, like, you know, it's

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a matter of track record, right, you know, looking at

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even his second half last year, he had ten homers,

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twenty one steals, he had two seventy seven. I think

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he's uh, you know, far enough away removed from like

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the hammet phone uh, you know, and those second half

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numbers that I read for his second half last year.

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I mean that would that would put him in the

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top twenty, and so he just has to repeat that.

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00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,319
I think we're also far enough away from the hammit

470
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,200
bone surgery in the preseason where I think he should

471
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,759
he should have his power back at this point. And

472
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,880
he is one of the few players who I'll say,

473
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:20,039
has like, you know, fifteen homer I excuse me, fifteen

474
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:24,799
steal speed per month, which is very rare to be

475
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,119
able to steal fifteen bags in a month. He has

476
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000
that kind of speed. And he also unlike the other

477
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,880
guys who could do that, say Chandler Simpson, nacyum Nunez,

478
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,039
unlike those guys, I mean, Corbyn Carrol can hit you know,

479
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,720
five to seven homers in a month too. So I

480
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:44,279
mean we're talking about a guy who could I mean,

481
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:48,000
he has the potential to be a top five overall player,

482
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,720
which I don't you know, I mean in a way,

483
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,880
a lot of players could do that, like you know,

484
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,960
as we saw you know in the in the very

485
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:01,960
opening of the season, and like Chase the latter was

486
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:05,079
that for like you know, two weeks. So a lot

487
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,799
of players have that ability to be a top five player.

488
00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:11,720
But Corbin Carroll is like you know, percentage wise, he

489
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:14,839
has a better chance than many guys because he does

490
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,880
have power and speed and should hit for a decent average,

491
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,960
you know, relatively. I mean, you know, he's not a

492
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,079
three hundred hitter, but he should hit two sixty. So

493
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,319
I yeah, I mean, I don't have Corbin Carrol, so

494
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,519
I'm maybe a little bit of rose colored glasses here,

495
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:35,640
but I do think he has a better chance than

496
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,960
many guys to have a top five season and is

497
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:44,799
worth the gamble for a big second half even if

498
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:48,039
it wasn't, you know, the greatest. The first halfs.

499
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: Right, great, I mean it's fair. He definitely has the upside.

500
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: We've seen him do it before, and the second halves

501
00:30:55,519 --> 00:31:00,200
can look completely different. I hope you're right, because my

502
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:04,359
you know, only team would would greatly appreciate him getting

503
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,119
his act together, and you know, that would probably get

504
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,680
me back in the first place in that league if

505
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,960
he became Corbyn Carroll that I need and not somebody

506
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,039
who was battling Eli White for playing.

507
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,559
Speaker 2: Time on my roster.

508
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:22,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I hear you. I was looking. I just

509
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,559
looked up quickly where he was in the rest of

510
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:27,599
the season play Raider, and yeah, I mean, it's probably

511
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:30,119
no surprise to people. He's he's pretty high on the

512
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,599
Rest of the Season Player Raider. He's that he's the

513
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:39,240
seventh best outfielder between your done and Michael Harris the

514
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,079
second and Ronaldycunya Junior.

515
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's not surprising that based on his

516
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,720
track record he would be high. He's not old, so

517
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:51,440
there's no reason to drop that yet. The batted ball

518
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:53,359
was down in the first half, but that's kind of

519
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,359
to be expected with the way he came into the

520
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:59,759
season with the handmake bone, So you know, I mean,

521
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:01,960
I if he gets it back together and the batted

522
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,759
ball comes back, that's there's definitely a possibility. But I'm

523
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,839
I'm more looking forward to the value pick of him

524
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,640
next year, I think than hoping he's gonna necessarily be

525
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,640
a top ten, top fifteen guy this year.

526
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:15,759
Speaker 2: So if you want him, great, and then I'll only

527
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:17,720
I'm happy to sell you him at that price.

528
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: I I actually, you know, speaking of value picks for

529
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:29,720
next year, I'm already anticipating rostering Gunner Henderson again. How

530
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:37,160
depressing is that three seasons in a row where I'm like, Wow,

531
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,400
the value is just too good. I'm gonna be like,

532
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:42,880
in five seasons from now, it's gonna be like, Oh,

533
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:48,279
Gunner Henderson's at pick one seventy, that's really good value.

534
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: Oh all right, Greg, he brought him up. So let's

535
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,079
just jump there. Let's jump to Gunnar Henderson. We're kind

536
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:56,559
of gonna jump back and forth right now. He comes

537
00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:00,240
in at forty five. He is behind Riley Green and

538
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,279
Miguel Vargas. Of all people, would not ever have thought

539
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,960
I would say those words, or really even in the season,

540
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,720
I still wouldn't have really thought I would say those words.

541
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,519
But here we are. Gunner is hitting he I mean

542
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:18,039
he has seven him runs seven song bases. He's hitting

543
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,759
two twenty four. His on basi is sub three hundred.

544
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,599
I mean the babbit is two fifty four career three

545
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,960
h eight Babbage, So a little unlucky there. But the

546
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,240
k raid is up. The walk rate is the worst

547
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,920
in his major league career. Our hit rate, average exit lost,

548
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,880
they are both down. That's that speed fast swing rate

549
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,079
both down as well. I mean, I liked, I love

550
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,799
the talent too Gray, but like at this point, is

551
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:52,559
he just like see Brandon Nemo with supposed upside or

552
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,599
like are we gonna see.

553
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:57,279
Speaker 2: You know, first two years Gunner Henderson at any point.

554
00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:03,559
Speaker 3: Man, when you put it that way, maybe I won't

555
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,559
draft him next year.

556
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,519
Speaker 1: Kind of beetles like Brandon Nemo, except he's not even

557
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:09,679
walking that much anymore.

558
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'd say, you know, if Nemo's on the table,

559
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,960
go for Nemo. No, No, okay, So you know, so

560
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,639
I think, uh, Nemo, I feel like, well, I won't

561
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,760
go too far down that path because it was just

562
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,760
say it was just a comp but I do think

563
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,559
like he has almost twice as many homers as Nemo,

564
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,079
and he has uh you know, I mean Gunnar Henderson

565
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:44,000
has like speed that Nemo's never shown in his career. Like,

566
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,480
you know, Gunnar Henderson had a thirty steel season last year.

567
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:54,400
So I think I want to say that, you know,

568
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:57,679
the first half obviously wasn't great for Gunner Henderson, but

569
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,000
even with the not so great first half, I mean,

570
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,960
I mean, he is on pace for a you know,

571
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:11,280
twenty eight homer fifteen steel season. It's really the average

572
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,360
is really what's been dragging him down. And you know,

573
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,320
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit here and say

574
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,239
that the walk rate being down and the strikeouts being

575
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,239
up a little bit not a little concerning, but I

576
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,840
mean they're not out of control, right, So it's not

577
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,719
like like his strikeout rate is only up one percent

578
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:34,280
from last year, so I mean it's like negligible. You know.

579
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,639
His walk rate is down. It's a little bit more concerning.

580
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,920
I mean it's down two percent. But his average, I

581
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,880
think is a little bit is being offset a little

582
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,760
bit by the bed babbit which you mentioned. So his

583
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,159
babbit is so far down that it's like even even

584
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:57,920
with the hard hit down, which you know, it's a

585
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,840
little bit down. I mean, even with that, his babbit's

586
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,679
down so much that you know this, I wouldn't say

587
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,159
he's suddenly become a two sixty babbit guy. So he's,

588
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,320
you know, at worse a three hundred babbit guy, which

589
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,559
makes him a two sixty hitter at absolute worse. So

590
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,760
if he went you know, it's not ideal, but if

591
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,440
he goes like over the course of a season, if

592
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,639
he were to go hit twenty eight homers, steal fifteen bags,

593
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:30,880
and hit two sixty, so that would be a neutral average,

594
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,199
you'd be here saying, like, okay, I mean, it's not

595
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:39,480
the gunner Henderson of like the top fifteen overall, but

596
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:43,239
that's not a bad top fifty hitter. If he goes

597
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:50,320
you know, essentially thirty homers, fifteen steals to sixty average.

598
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,519
I think I've talked myself back into drafting him again

599
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:59,239
next year. I'm back to that, so, you know, I mean,

600
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,480
I hear I hear the complaints about you know, I

601
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:06,559
think it's mostly the average that I think people were

602
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:09,679
complaining about, because if he was hitting two seventy with

603
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,639
the seventeen homers that he has right now and the

604
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,800
seven steals, I feel like people would be like, yeah,

605
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,039
I mean that's basically a bounce back. If he's you know,

606
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,800
I mean, if he's on pace for you know, thirty

607
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,440
fifteen to seventy, people would be like, yeah, that's fine.

608
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,599
I think it's really the average that is, uh, you know,

609
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,320
hanging people up. And I think the average is a

610
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,800
lot I think a lot to do with bad luck

611
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,960
right now, not totally. I mean, there is some concern,

612
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:45,480
but I think it's a lot bad luck. So yeah,

613
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:49,079
I mean, I'm I'm fine gambling on conn Anderson for

614
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,199
the second half. I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm crazy.

615
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:52,840
I don't know.

616
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,639
Speaker 1: I don't think you're crazy great. I would gamble on

617
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,559
the talent. Still, he does feel like he's gonna turn

618
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,400
at some point. I just don't know if it's gonna

619
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,440
be this year. Still, I think the biggest concern for

620
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:07,760
me is, like you said, the walk rate being down,

621
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,800
and then also the fact that the fast swing rate

622
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,239
and the bat speed are down. That feels like something's

623
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,400
still wrong. You know, he's not old enough where he

624
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,400
should be losing bat speed to this amount. You know

625
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,760
that that makes me feel like something's wrong or he

626
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,760
made some kind of change and it's really not. It's

627
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,000
not working out like it needs to be working out.

628
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,840
So again, for this year, if you can get him

629
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,679
in some kind of discount, I don't mind taking him.

630
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,519
I don't know that I'm gonna pay up, you know,

631
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:46,079
premium prices for Gunner Henderson. But we'll revisit where he

632
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,320
ranks at the end of the season, after we see

633
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,920
his second half going back up top a little bit

634
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,639
great to the top of the rankings. You're don Alvarez

635
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,559
comes at at twelve for you, that feels low based

636
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:05,960
on your love for uh for Kubato, I mean throwing

637
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:08,320
one home runs and stolen base. He's sitting three eighteen,

638
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,559
he can make a legitimate run at a triple Crown,

639
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:16,760
and he actually has outfield eligibility. Now this feels this

640
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,119
feels low for the person that we're talking about here.

641
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, I mean I didn't

642
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,599
really I didn't think it was low. Actually, when I

643
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:30,440
like some of these, I felt like I felt like

644
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:33,639
you were you did hit on something when you were

645
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:35,880
pointed out certain guys. But I don't feel like you

646
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,639
were nons that low. To be honest, I don't know.

647
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,400
I mean with his uh, you know, going back to

648
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:45,360
like the track record of like, you know, his you know, injury,

649
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,639
his injuries in the past, you know. I mean, I

650
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,000
think twelve is fair. I mean, I don't know. I don't.

651
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:56,800
I don't think there's anyone really above him that I

652
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,239
could see, you know. I guess if it's like Jordon

653
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:06,480
or Juan Soto, I guess it's more about Juan Soda

654
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:09,440
just being like, you know, a bit of a like

655
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:15,159
he's he's a he's pretty reliable, whereas Jordon has been

656
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,360
unreliable in the past. But yeah, I mean, Jordon obviously

657
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,079
can outpace Juan Soto, Uh, if we're gonna uh you know,

658
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:28,039
if if he's if we're if we're saying we're guaranteeing,

659
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:33,719
you know, health for the second half for both guys,

660
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,360
I would say or do on easily. But you know,

661
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:40,239
I I think I just I deducted a little bit

662
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,519
because just you know, just I feel like there's just

663
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:48,440
a little bit of unreliability with him. And yeah, I

664
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,519
mean that's kind of it.

665
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, I mean that's fair. He

666
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,079
definitely does have that track record. He has just been

667
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,760
so so good this year, you know, I mean, he's

668
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,360
basically been maybe he's the fourth on a Player Raider.

669
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,320
He's only behind Miss Rowski, James Wood, Ben Rice and.

670
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: Then it's him.

671
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: So it was just just one of the ask because

672
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,400
he's always been a podcast favorite. So it felt a

673
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,480
little low for for somebody that that we've always been repping.

674
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:24,119
Speaker 2: Gray, somebody we haven't really repped at any point.

675
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,559
Speaker 1: But it's you know, on this list, and deservedly so

676
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,400
is Auto Lopez night home run seventeen stone bases. He's

677
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:35,960
hitting three thirty four, three sixty eight five h five

678
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:40,320
that does come with a three seventy babbit, so maybe

679
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,079
a little lucky. But what are your thoughts here on

680
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:45,159
Auto Lopez? Apparently based on your ranking, you do think

681
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:46,440
he can keep going this going.

682
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm I'm a fan. I think, uh,

683
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,199
I think Ota Lopez there's I mean, I feel like

684
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,760
he's I mean, I was gonna say he's probably in

685
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,719
the running for getting into the top two any overall

686
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,840
for next year, but I think he probably has to

687
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,639
have a pretty big second half for that to happen,

688
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:08,280
because he actually, I mean, in reality, he probably feels

689
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,960
like he might be underrated next year. But anyway, for

690
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,159
this year, yeah, I mean he's doing every I mean,

691
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:18,239
he's hitting the ball as well as anyone, like you look,

692
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:20,559
you look at guys around the field like I was.

693
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:25,119
I was actually noticing how well Jonathan Arenada was hitting

694
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:28,239
the ball when I was looking at guys who were

695
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:32,000
close to making into the top one hundred but ended

696
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:33,159
up falling short.

697
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: I think.

698
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: But anyway, Ado Lopez was hitting the ball as well

699
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:42,639
as anyone. I mean a good hard hit, solid solid speed,

700
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,960
obviously stealing you know, potentially stealing thirty bags this year

701
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,519
on pace too at least, and hitting you know, like

702
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:57,719
fifteen homers, fifteen thirty and with the solid contact hitting

703
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,400
probably you know, at were I want to say, three

704
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,559
point fifteen. So yeah, I mean he looks great. An

705
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:09,840
a Lopez fan, I'll you know, I'm I'm definitely one

706
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,599
of the few guys I got right on a lot

707
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:16,880
of my Mixed league teams. I drafted him just about everywhere.

708
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,440
So yeah, I like Gotto Lopez a lot. I don't

709
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:22,719
I do think, you know, the upside on the power

710
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,559
is probably somewhat low. I mean, he's not I don't

711
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:29,599
think he's gonna suddenly break out and become like, I

712
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:33,119
don't know, like Kettle Marte or something, Cautel Marte. I

713
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:35,960
don't think he's gonna do that necessarily. He's not gonna

714
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,880
become a twenty seven homer hitter. But yeah, I mean

715
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,760
fifteen homers with thirty steel speed and a three fifteen

716
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,000
plus average that moves the needle. Man, It's it's solid.

717
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:50,000
So yeah, I'm a fan.

718
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him too.

719
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:55,559
Speaker 1: He is part of my you know, only team that

720
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,280
is performing well. Actually, I got an offer while we're

721
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,159
recording this by I got I actually put him on

722
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,519
the trade block because I have a lot of stone

723
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:07,559
bases and I need to grab some power. I was

724
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:11,480
sent to a trade offer Auto Lopez for Luis Garcia

725
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:15,840
Junior's see, it's a fair offer from a power for

726
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,599
speed standpoint. I think I will probably just keep on

727
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,920
a Lopez, though, because I am not not a huge

728
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,239
believer in Luis Garcia or I.

729
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: I know you like him, but I didn't make that

730
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:36,519
trade offer, by the way, you did not. I see, uh,

731
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:40,760
I see someone send a thing with like guys on

732
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,960
the block or or or these categories are needed. I

733
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:51,480
see those emails and I automatically block the center. I

734
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:55,239
don't take well. I don't like those emails. I don't

735
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,320
know why. I just I you know what I feel like.

736
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:01,320
If you're like, that's like when someone reaches out to

737
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,679
me and they're like, oh, hey, what will you give

738
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,440
me for this player? I'm like, why don't you just

739
00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:11,400
offer a trade? Like you you want me to do

740
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,320
the work? Like why am I? Why am I in

741
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,559
charge of doing the work for you? Man?

742
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: Anyway, I feel like you just complained about both sides

743
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,280
of the trade market.

744
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:26,199
Speaker 2: You're just complaining because somebody tells you what they're looking for.

745
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,800
If they're looking for the trade.

746
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: But then you also said I don't like it when

747
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,000
people come to me and ask me, So basically, you

748
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:34,400
just don't like trading.

749
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: Ray, you can just say that I still like I

750
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,440
just don't like talking.

751
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,639
Speaker 1: If you want to sing Gray very lopside of trade,

752
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,159
he will sit on it for a month, come back,

753
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,280
notice there's a trade, and then maybe accepted that. That's

754
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,920
the way that it works with Gray. That's that's the

755
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,800
way it's always worked with Gray. Uh as somebody who

756
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,840
is in multiple leagues with him. And if you if

757
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,679
you text him in maybe like three weeks instead of

758
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,000
a full month, but it's still gonna take some time.

759
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get those stats.

760
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: Yea better you have a better chance of commenting on

761
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,000
my post and being like, hey, what do you think

762
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,840
of this trade? And I'd be like, that's a pretty

763
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,760
good trade. You'd be like, okay, well I just sentence you,

764
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,199
so maybe you accept it.

765
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:25,679
Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair.

766
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,559
Speaker 1: So yes, I'll have to look at that trade for myself.

767
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:32,400
But we can move off of that Gray. I always

768
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,800
like putting in those like what I'm looking for in

769
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,719
because it makes.

770
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: It very clear that I want a specific set of.

771
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: Skills, you know, pull my pull, my best taken and

772
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,920
just go after what I need Gray, because in that

773
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,719
league I have like I'm like forty stolen bases second,

774
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,320
Like it's it's crazy how much steals I don't need.

775
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:58,800
So I would like to trade that in for something

776
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,599
I would like to have, which is either power.

777
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,119
Speaker 2: Or some pitching.

778
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,159
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you have this Nunez in a only league,

779
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:08,679
you're you're pretty set on the stone base.

780
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 3: I did, actually I did offer. Uh, there's a in

781
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,280
our in my labor league, in twelve team next league. Someone, Uh,

782
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:22,800
someone's in first place and I'm in I think I

783
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,119
want to say like fourth. Maybe I don't know, I'm

784
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:29,360
in like fourth place. And I did. I did d

785
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:32,280
M them, and I said, I will trade my entire

786
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,480
team for your entire team if you want to do that.

787
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:39,159
It didn't work, though I would have. I would have

788
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:42,920
done that trade. But no one, no one's doing that.

789
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:47,639
Speaker 1: I guess, No, Greg, I won't trade you by my

790
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,639
perch league team for your Perch League team or my

791
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:52,920
only team for your team.

792
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: Uh, if you want to, hey, how we could do that?

793
00:47:56,199 --> 00:48:00,159
You know I'm good to that one.

794
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: Let's talk about something that is also up in the air,

795
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,440
which is Byron Buxton injuries. At any point in time

796
00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:11,679
you slotted him at fifty in the rankings.

797
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,599
Speaker 2: Is this pre injury post injury?

798
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,199
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because Byron Buxton can do crazy things

799
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:21,079
and limited time. What's your thoughts here on Buckston coming

800
00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:23,159
in right at the midway mark of.

801
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 3: The fifty spot. I think I actually I might have

802
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,559
moved him. I might have moved him down a little

803
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:33,679
bit from higher than fifty even after the il, so

804
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,559
that that is post injury the fifty spot for his ranking.

805
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:43,719
It was it was the last option, you said, whereas

806
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,639
like Byron Buston can do so well in such a

807
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:51,559
little amount of time that it's like you're the injuries

808
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:54,480
already baked in. So whether or not this actually makes

809
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,719
any sense or not. I actually looked at like, you know,

810
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,480
him starting the second half on the eye as like, well,

811
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:04,199
he's getting that I el stint out of the way,

812
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:06,880
and you know he's gonna be well rested for the

813
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,480
second half, So I you know, for better or worse,

814
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,000
I feel like at some point you were gonna get

815
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,239
a Buckston I el stint, so you know, maybe it's

816
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,360
out of the way now, and you know you have

817
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,599
a solid second half to look forward to. I think

818
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:28,079
it's mostly like you know, his his per game stats

819
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:31,000
are just so good that like you know, if you

820
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:35,599
know you only get sixty games in the second half,

821
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:39,480
like you know, or fifty, it's gonna be it's gonna

822
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,559
be a really good fifty or sixty game. So yeah,

823
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:47,000
I think I think he's still I think he's still

824
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:52,079
worth that ranking easily. Really, I mean he's another guy

825
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:56,719
who's like, I don't know where he let's see Byron

826
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,599
Buxton on the Player Raider. I think he's probably pretty high, right,

827
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,320
top thirty, yeah, top thirty. Yeah, he's top thirty, and

828
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,519
I ranked him at fifty. So yeah, I think that's

829
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:11,639
pretty fair. I mean he's at this point like with

830
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:17,199
someone like Buxton, I you know, I feel like I

831
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:20,800
also another guy we haven't talked about or maybe you

832
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,800
have him further in the uh in the outline, but

833
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:27,400
Michael Harris the second too, like Byron Buckson, Michael Hare's

834
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,480
a second at this point, like Michael Harris a second

835
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:33,119
a little bit more so than even Byron Buckston. But

836
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:38,119
they've come around in my mind, I've I've accepted who

837
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:42,280
they are and like I like, I like them both

838
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,119
for what they are. And Michael Harris a second I

839
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:49,280
think even more so than Buckston because Buckston was always

840
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,159
like I believed in Buxton, but I always felt like

841
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,639
the injury, the injuries are the risk, and they still are.

842
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,239
But when Michael Harris a second, I think I've actually,

843
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,599
you know, come on him where I think Michael Harris

844
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:07,880
a second actually is the guy who everyone for the

845
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,880
longest time thought he was Like, you know, I think

846
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,360
there was a long period of time there where he

847
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:17,280
was not as good as people were saying he was

848
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,440
gonna be. But now Michael Harris a second does look

849
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:24,480
he looks as good as everyone thought he was gonna be.

850
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've pulled a sharver around a few people, you know,

851
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:31,599
kind of kind of changing your your long standing beliefs

852
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:32,440
on them.

853
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,199
Speaker 2: Glad to see you're on the Michael Harris train.

854
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,119
Speaker 1: I always felt like it was just he needed to

855
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:38,960
move up in the batting order to make his fantasy

856
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:42,880
draft Bryce makes sense. And he's done that, Like the

857
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:47,840
Braves have finally realized you shouldn't actually have Ozzy Albi's

858
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,400
at the top of the order regularly and also Ronald

859
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,960
the Cooney not being there allows for some some movement

860
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,920
as well. So yeah, I like Michael Harris in addition

861
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,760
to Byron Buckston. Let's do some guys who are probably

862
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,119
if they're on your team, you're probably struggling a little bit,

863
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,880
and that is Manny Machado, Kyle Tucker, and vlat Gerrera Junior.

864
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:14,400
Just talk about these three as a whole, because they're

865
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,320
kind of all the same. I mean, at least Mandy's

866
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,000
hitting for power, he's the only one with home runs.

867
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 2: They're all hitting for a disappointing average.

868
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: And everything's pretty disappointing on these three. They're still ranked

869
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,119
here Gray. I'm assuming this is all based on what

870
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:35,119
they've done in their past though, because many Machado maybe

871
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:36,679
you can say a little bit of babbit, but the

872
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,199
other two just do not look good.

873
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I would say so. Manny Machado, I think

874
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,440
is probably my one of my biggest second half buys

875
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,840
because like you said, like he is mostly babbit, So

876
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:57,639
I Manny Machado. Aside, I think Machado's actually doing fairly

877
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,760
well outside of average, and the averag ridges a lot

878
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,960
to do with the Babbitt and so I would say

879
00:53:04,199 --> 00:53:08,119
you could buy him pretty pretty easily. And I like

880
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:13,159
that Vlad and Tucker. Lad and Kyle Tucker are bigger issues.

881
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:20,599
They're yeah, so Vlad. And by the way, they're ranked

882
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:24,400
like you said, I mean almost entirely on track record,

883
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:27,039
like they didn't do anything in the in the first half.

884
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:33,360
Really to you know, afford them the graciousness of me

885
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:37,840
ranking them where I did, but I did. I'm a

886
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:42,159
I'm a better person than them, Okay, I say with

887
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:49,360
Vlad specifically, you know, he's he's shown the ability, like

888
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:52,400
you know, even in the playoffs last year, Like he's

889
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,079
shown the ability to hit like, you know, twelve homers

890
00:53:56,119 --> 00:54:00,880
in like ten games and have like monster months. So

891
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,159
I'm still you know, I don't think it's necessarily gonna

892
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:08,360
come this year. I think it's really like he's got

893
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,760
a I think he's got a bad back, and I

894
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:14,000
think it's really uh, you know, I think it's hurting

895
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,079
his power. But maybe the break, this All Star break,

896
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:21,320
maybe he gets a cortizone shot in his back and

897
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,920
he comes back after the break and he is good again.

898
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,800
Because I still think Vlad ken have like a huge

899
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,159
month or two, whether he does or not. You know,

900
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,960
it's up to him. I can only do so much.

901
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

902
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,199
Speaker 3: With Kyle Tucker, on the other hand, he's he is

903
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,679
pretty concerning because like, you know, his strikeouts are up,

904
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:48,280
like he like, I watched a decent amount of Dodgers games.

905
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,239
He just does not seem interested in being like, you know,

906
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,639
whatever's going on in La, he doesn't care. He doesn't

907
00:54:56,639 --> 00:55:00,480
seem like it just seems like he's you know, he's

908
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:03,800
become you know, because there's so many stars around him,

909
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,559
he's just sort of become like, you know, a bit

910
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:09,440
of a wallflower as far as like you know, the spotlight.

911
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:11,719
And it's like, oh, like I don't know. I mean,

912
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,320
he doesn't seem he doesn't seem like he's, uh, he's

913
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,320
having the best of times there. And you know, his

914
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:25,079
numbers are really pretty bad. But you know, as far

915
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:28,679
as track record goes, I mean, he does have as

916
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:33,079
good a track record as anyone. So I'm hoping Kyle

917
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:38,159
Tucker can have another solid, you know, a solid month

918
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,480
or two. And you know, for a second half, for

919
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:43,239
a guy to be good in the second half, all

920
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,800
he needs is like, you know, a good solid like

921
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,440
six weeks really, So yeah, I you know, I'm still

922
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,400
holding out hope in Kyle Tucker, but I do, you know,

923
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,360
I mean, his his hard hit is decent. I mean

924
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,599
there's a few things to look at with Kyle Tucker

925
00:55:58,639 --> 00:56:01,679
where it's like, Okay, you know, maybe he's not as

926
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,039
bad as uh as he seems, but it's it's been

927
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:07,320
a struggle for sure.

928
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

929
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: I have not loved the Kyle Tucker that we're getting

930
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,719
this year, and to some extent, it's kind of carried

931
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,679
over from what he was doing in the second half

932
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,079
last year. The bat speeds down, fast wing rates down,

933
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:25,920
after Jackson wallsty heart hit, everything is kind of down

934
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,880
from where he's always been since the second half of

935
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,599
last year. So to some extent, I wonder if something's

936
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:36,519
wrong with him that he just didn't want to address

937
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:39,960
in his free agent off season and ruin his payday

938
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,440
because the numbers do not look the same after the

939
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,039
first half of last year to now.

940
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's fair And I know you have it

941
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,599
in the outline you were gonna you had. Where do

942
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:55,880
they go next year? I you know, I Kyle Tucker

943
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,679
is like, he is a tough one for me to

944
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,119
even imagine where he goes year like Manny, I think

945
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:06,760
it's gonna drop to like probably sixty or seventy next year,

946
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,599
even if he has a good second half, unless he

947
00:57:09,639 --> 00:57:13,199
has an amazing second half, but more than likely because

948
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,760
Manny was already like thirty this year, not age, I

949
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,920
mean ADP. He was around thirty to forty this year.

950
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,280
ADP sixty sounds about right for Manny next year, with

951
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:30,920
you know the figuring, assuming you know the age is

952
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,559
a factor, and this down year, you know, he's not

953
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:37,599
gonna be allowed to even if he has a insane

954
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,960
second half, he's only gonna get his average up to

955
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:42,880
like two fifty or something. So yeah, I would say many,

956
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,039
probably sixty FLAD. I would say, you know, if Lad

957
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:50,280
seems to bounce around with ADP, like one year he's

958
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,519
like in the top twenty, next year he's like around

959
00:57:55,639 --> 00:57:58,039
thirty to forty, I think next year is gonna be

960
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:01,800
the thirty to forty year. He seems to bounce back

961
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:07,239
and forth between you know, thirty to forty and twelve

962
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,840
to twenty, somewhere in that range. So yeah, I would

963
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,880
say Lad probably in the thirty to forty range next year.

964
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:19,320
Kyle Tucker, I don't know, I have no idea like

965
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:25,920
Kyle Tucker feels like he could be potentially like around

966
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:31,039
where like you know, Yelich went this year. Maybe, I

967
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:36,239
mean maybe like eighty. I mean, Kyle Tucker is gonna

968
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,440
fall massively in ADP. I would think, I don't know,

969
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:45,239
I mean, where would you be in Kyle Tucker seventy five?

970
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking he probably goes on that seventy

971
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,880
five to one hundred range where you kind of get

972
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:56,239
the upside, you get the aging veterans like that feels

973
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,679
like the right area for him. But again, it's gonna

974
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:02,639
depend quite a bit on his second half this year

975
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:05,079
and kind of what what he can do, because if

976
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:06,840
he just looks like what he did in the first half,

977
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,760
it may be closer to that hundred and not not

978
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:15,440
the tewenty five number. And you know, there's some back

979
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,639
issues he's having right now. So Becka heard him. For

980
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:25,719
this year, it's it's a concern. I think it's seventy

981
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,679
five one hundred just based on what he does the

982
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:29,440
rest of season. You know, if he comes back and

983
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,360
has old school Kyle Tecker things, then maybe that moves up.

984
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,159
But at this point I don't necessarily see old school

985
00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:37,039
Cayle Tucker walking through the doors.

986
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:40,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think if he has, if he has

987
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:46,039
a solid second half, probably in the forty to fifty

988
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:48,760
range next year. Even if he has even that's even

989
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,960
with a solid second half, I think if he has

990
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:54,920
a poor one, I mean it's like where taoscar maybe

991
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,440
was this year, potentially in drafts if he has, if

992
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,639
he has an awful second half, like if he basically

993
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,840
comes out in the first week and you know, cracks

994
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,440
open his shin and misses like two months of the

995
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,280
second half, I want to be shy to see Kyle

996
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,920
Tucker go with like one twenty overall next year. I mean,

997
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:22,760
there's there's a chance he's uh, he's he's on the

998
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:25,280
like he's on the it feels like he's on the

999
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:30,079
Chris Bryant arc of his career right now. And that's

1000
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:31,719
not good. Yeah.

1001
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: I really hope that's not the case. I love both

1002
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,320
those players. I've I've liked them both since they started.

1003
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,440
It was really sad to watch Kyle Tucker go the

1004
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,920
same way as Chris Bryant has.

1005
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, my Dynasty League this year is just it's a

1006
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,000
it's destroying players.

1007
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,599
Speaker 1: Gray I was, I was fourth last year, I just

1008
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:55,960
needed some pitching, so I went and got pitching, and

1009
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:01,199
my bats all stopped performing. I had Tis, I had

1010
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,000
cal Rawley jass Chishom, who was terrible to beginning of

1011
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,119
the year. I have Kyle Tucker is a Tyler sh

1012
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,559
Strong who has been hurt for missing games.

1013
01:01:11,559 --> 01:01:14,599
Speaker 2: Just been it's been a tough year for my dynasty team.

1014
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:18,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's uh, it sounds like the

1015
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:23,039
Dodgers in general, the uh, the Oscar, Kyle Tucker, and

1016
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:27,679
Mookie Betts. It's like, oh, Freddie Freeman too, like, uh, yeah,

1017
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:33,360
when Otani is the young guy, they better hope they

1018
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:38,719
win this year because they might be looking at a rebuild.

1019
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,960
Might be a lot closer, uh than we anticipate with

1020
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,039
the Dodgers, because yeah, I mean I was watching. I

1021
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:48,079
know it's just one game, but like on Saturday, like,

1022
01:01:48,199 --> 01:01:53,719
Mookie Bets looks like he got old, Kyle Tuker looks terrible.

1023
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,039
Freddy Freeman is like Freddie Freeman's out there, like you know,

1024
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:00,519
he's on he's on the he's on the phone, he's

1025
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,960
on first base. He's he's on the phone with his

1026
01:02:03,039 --> 01:02:06,159
wife and they're discussing, like you know, where to send

1027
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:09,239
their kids to high school. Like it's like they're it's

1028
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,280
I mean, they have gotten like the team has gotten old.

1029
01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1030
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: I almost wonder like if you pull it up Tommy

1031
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,719
out if something happens to him, and I do not

1032
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,599
want that to happen, but if it does, do they

1033
01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:26,239
kind of go the way that the Yankees lineup is

1034
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,400
gone without Judge, where you're like, you know what this is.

1035
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: This is a pretty terrible lineup and they're not scoring

1036
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:32,280
any runs anymore.

1037
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know, it's true. It's they're not far

1038
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:40,800
from that. Really, it's like they've definitely hit a a

1039
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,840
aging veterans wall of like, oh wow, these guys are

1040
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:48,480
you know when when Blake's now and Tyler glasnow are

1041
01:02:48,519 --> 01:02:51,519
the young chickens that are in the roost waiting to

1042
01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:55,599
come in and give you a revitalization, Like, oh man,

1043
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:58,960
you know it's like the only guy under thirty I

1044
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,639
think is Dalton Rush and everyone hates him for being

1045
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:03,400
under thirty.

1046
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:09,119
Speaker 2: I think, hope you're buying any pie he's under thirty.

1047
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's true.

1048
01:03:11,639 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some young guys.

1049
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: Gray, you're buying the young shortstops JJ Weatherhille and Kevin McGonagall.

1050
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,880
They're both ranked here for you above their Player Raiders spot.

1051
01:03:23,679 --> 01:03:26,079
Is it that you're really buying them or is it

1052
01:03:26,119 --> 01:03:28,559
there's kind of a drop off at some point nobody

1053
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:31,280
else really earned any kind of bump here.

1054
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: They've been solid by like rookie standards.

1055
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,039
Speaker 1: Like they've been good by rookie standards, but like from

1056
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:44,320
a fantasy numbers perspective, it's not an overly exciting profile

1057
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,880
from either of them. JJS thirteen nine, two fifty nine

1058
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:53,519
mcgonagall's eight eleven to eighty three numbers.

1059
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I know, I hear what you're saying.

1060
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,320
I think, you know, it's like at a certain point

1061
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,039
the second half top one hundred, it's like, oh, Kevin

1062
01:04:04,119 --> 01:04:08,920
mcgonaga or Jake Berger, who was nowhere near the top

1063
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,960
one hundred, Like, you know, like there is there's some

1064
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:17,119
room maneuvering here. I think, uh, you know, both of them,

1065
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,920
McGonagall and Weatherhold both were top one hundred guys in

1066
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,239
the first half on the Player Raider they were they're

1067
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,440
also you know, young with upside. McGonagall I feel like

1068
01:04:29,559 --> 01:04:31,800
has a little bit less upside, but it is a

1069
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:36,159
little bit more stable and Weatherhold has. You know, I

1070
01:04:36,159 --> 01:04:39,199
think a lot more upside than we've even seen, and

1071
01:04:39,239 --> 01:04:42,239
he had a solid first half, so I you know,

1072
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,079
I think it's a balance of upside versus what, you know,

1073
01:04:46,239 --> 01:04:49,480
what they actually did this first half, which was good.

1074
01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:52,119
So you know, they had a good first half, top

1075
01:04:52,119 --> 01:04:55,800
one hundred first half and uh, you know, solid I

1076
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,639
think with upside.

1077
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: Okay, And one of the reason to break up their

1078
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,719
ranks is right between them on the play Raider, but

1079
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,960
later in the ranks as Zader Edwards who sticks and

1080
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:12,199
runs stole basis three h three. Maybe not quite as

1081
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:15,400
loud in regards to the upside, but from a play

1082
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,000
Raider standpoint, I mean Edwards has done what you need

1083
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:20,920
him to do last two seasons. Is he is he

1084
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,760
getting a little bit punished here because he's just that

1085
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,440
he hasn't shown necessarily vertical upside yet.

1086
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, I didn't realize, you know,

1087
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,960
when I wrote I wrote these last week. Obviously for

1088
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:38,400
us to be discussing them now and for them to

1089
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,599
be on the Patreon you know, last week. So I

1090
01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:45,719
wrote them last week, I didn't realize. I mean, there

1091
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,519
was no way to realize that actually because it wasn't

1092
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,719
the case yet, but I didn't realize a mechanical weather

1093
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,079
Holt were right next to each other on the playwright. Well,

1094
01:05:57,119 --> 01:06:00,280
you mentioned Edwards was between them, but I mean they are.

1095
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,159
They literally did exactly the same as far as the

1096
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,880
as far as the player raider is concerned, I was

1097
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,599
just I was just I was amusing myself by looking

1098
01:06:10,639 --> 01:06:15,079
at the player raider. Just now. Sorry anyway, Yes, Edwards

1099
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:18,000
just does not have the huge upside is really the

1100
01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:21,840
only thing. I think, you know, Edwards is also a

1101
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,800
bit of a category play with like you know Edwards

1102
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,559
or Nacium Nunez, you know, like, Okay, I mean Edwards

1103
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:32,519
is gonna hit for a better average and he has

1104
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,039
you know, a little bit of pop not much. I mean,

1105
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,159
coming into the year, I think we probably assumed he

1106
01:06:38,239 --> 01:06:40,679
was gonna hit less than three homers, even though he

1107
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,599
now has six. But yeah, I mean I think Edwards

1108
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,239
is just mostly steals with some average, whereas like you know,

1109
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:54,159
the other guys weather Holt and mcconagal, you know, they

1110
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,960
they have more five category upside, which I don't think

1111
01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:01,880
Edwards has. So yeah, that's it. I mean, but Edwards

1112
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,039
is fine, if you need steals an average, I'm fine

1113
01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:07,119
with Edwards.

1114
01:07:07,519 --> 01:07:10,159
Speaker 1: Okay, makes sense great. I just wanted to see where

1115
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,079
where the thinking was on that one. Believe to understand

1116
01:07:14,119 --> 01:07:16,360
you know you are shooting for upside when you are

1117
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:21,400
ranking at some point seven catchers in your top one

1118
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,239
hundred gray where you abducted, are you okay?

1119
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: Like three times? If you need help?

1120
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 3: What you know? Honestly? So I look at catchers like this,

1121
01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:39,000
like if ben Rice is gonna hit uh, you know

1122
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:44,639
the same stats as like you know a like as

1123
01:07:44,679 --> 01:07:47,639
a like Matt Olsen, Like if Ben Rice and Matt

1124
01:07:47,639 --> 01:07:50,840
Olson are gonna have the same stats, like I'm fine

1125
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:56,039
with ranking ben Rice around Matt Olson, Like it's never

1126
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,719
it was never like, oh, deducted guy because he's a catcher.

1127
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:03,239
Was deduct deducted him because he was a catcher, and

1128
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:07,000
that meant he was gonna lose at bats. But these

1129
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:10,639
guys are like, these guys are doing stuff that like

1130
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,719
I feel like we haven't seen maybe ever or at

1131
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:20,399
least in some time, because they're all basically like all

1132
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:27,560
the like ben Rice, Hunter Goodman, Dylan Dingler, Shey Langle, Leers, Contreras,

1133
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:32,520
Baldwin and cal Rowley, they're all getting like decent amount

1134
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,720
of DH time. Some of those guys I mentioned are

1135
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,880
getting first base time. They're all getting a ton of

1136
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:45,079
at bats, and you know, I think and like Liam Hicks,

1137
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:47,119
who I didn't even who I didn't even include in

1138
01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:49,840
my top one hundred, he's also getting first base at

1139
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,520
bats and some DH at bats. So it's like, if

1140
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,720
these guys are doing like if they're getting the same

1141
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,920
stats as like, you know, I don't know, say like

1142
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:04,479
Bryce Harper, if they're getting the same status as Bryce Harper,

1143
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,279
then why wouldn't you you know, why wouldn't you rank

1144
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:10,560
him by a Bryce Harper? You know? The My biggest

1145
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,000
concern always was, like, you know, a lot of them

1146
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,520
would be like, oh, catcher only at bats. So if

1147
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,199
you're getting catcher only at bats and that that hurts

1148
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,720
your bottom line. So yeah, I mean, I you know,

1149
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,039
cal Rawley probably is the only one really that's in

1150
01:09:31,079 --> 01:09:35,319
my top one hundred. That's super debatable because like as

1151
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:38,680
far at least, what I think is because like he

1152
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,880
had a terrible first half, so that is more of like,

1153
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,800
you know, maybe he can have that huge second half

1154
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:50,079
like he had, you know, somewhat like he had last year,

1155
01:09:50,199 --> 01:09:54,399
because like he has been, cal Rawley's been brutal. I mean,

1156
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,399
he's been awful. I think he's like, you know, I

1157
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,720
think cal Holy basically is like, you know, as bad

1158
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:07,720
as any catcher you know in on the Player Raider,

1159
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,960
Like he's just awful right now. He's he's around four

1160
01:10:12,039 --> 01:10:16,520
hundred overall on the Player Raider, you know, so obviously,

1161
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,359
so cal Rawley had a brutal first half. But you know,

1162
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,439
a flyer on him, I think in the top one

1163
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,760
hundred isn't I don't think that's the worst flyers you

1164
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,760
can make. Like maybe he comes out well rested, he

1165
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,720
gets you know, he gets it out of his head

1166
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,600
that he had such a brutal first half. Uh, and he's, uh,

1167
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,000
you know, he's good in the second half. And if

1168
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,319
he's good in the second half, he's the type of

1169
01:10:41,319 --> 01:10:44,680
guy who could hit twenty homers in the second half.

1170
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,479
So yeah, I think it's a decent flyer. But he

1171
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,560
has been awful. I mean, that's he's been no joke, terrible,

1172
01:10:52,399 --> 01:10:55,000
And that was one you know. I mean I think

1173
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,520
we I think me and you both were like, don't

1174
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,279
draft cal Rawley in the preseason I mean that was

1175
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,319
that was pretty clearly one to avoid. But on the

1176
01:11:04,319 --> 01:11:07,279
other hand, I also said, don't draft Ben Rice, and

1177
01:11:07,399 --> 01:11:10,920
this is you know, I mean, so you know, given

1178
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,239
you take a little bit here, but yeah, yeah, I

1179
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:15,760
think it depends on when you checked in on my

1180
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:16,920
rankings for Ben Rice.

1181
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:21,199
Speaker 1: I was, I like, by force put him lower, and

1182
01:11:21,239 --> 01:11:23,720
then as I kept making my rankings, I'm just like,

1183
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,159
this doesn't make any sense that he kept moving higher

1184
01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:28,840
and higher, and eventually I was actually maybe one of

1185
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,840
the highest people on him. So it really depends on

1186
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,880
when he checks Ben Rice with me. I will say

1187
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,319
one of my kind of long term sayings has always been,

1188
01:11:38,359 --> 01:11:40,920
if you want to find the best second or the

1189
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,680
best catchers for the second half, is to look at

1190
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,840
who struggled in the first half and vi especially in

1191
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,600
regards to who was good who's going to be bad.

1192
01:11:48,119 --> 01:11:50,840
So from that perspective, I would not be surprised at

1193
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,760
all if cal Rawley is healthy, the oblique and the

1194
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,760
side are fine, and he actually does kind of maybe

1195
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,000
even the top catcher the rest of season, as you mentioned,

1196
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:05,439
and like Ben Rice, like Leiers, good Men Hicks who

1197
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,760
isn't on your list but probably deserves to be. You know,

1198
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,119
they are getting time outside of catcher that certainly helps

1199
01:12:12,199 --> 01:12:16,920
with just that daily grind of of playing catcher, but

1200
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,920
they're still getting a lot of time behind the plate,

1201
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:23,239
which is kind of what tends to to hurt catcher

1202
01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:25,640
season's long term.

1203
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: I like that. I like these catchers you mentioned.

1204
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,359
Speaker 1: I would probably have them a little bit lower than

1205
01:12:31,399 --> 01:12:34,760
you because of simple fact, but they have all just

1206
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,960
they have all performed and deserved the spots where you have.

1207
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know. It's uh, it's been a time

1208
01:12:43,039 --> 01:12:45,840
where I think, uh, you know, I think we were

1209
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,520
talking about this in the preseason, like first base is

1210
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,479
pretty weak in general, and uh, you know, a lot

1211
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:57,600
of catchers have been picking up like first base at bats,

1212
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,000
and you know, and d h's have pretty weak too,

1213
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:03,479
and and these catchers have been picking up d H

1214
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:07,000
at bats. And yeah, I mean if a guy's like

1215
01:13:07,279 --> 01:13:10,800
you know, like a Dylan Dingler, I mean, if he's

1216
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:15,039
getting at bats, which you know he has been, if

1217
01:13:15,079 --> 01:13:18,800
he's getting them and he's hitting for powers like you

1218
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,920
can't I mean, it's hard to argue with some of

1219
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,319
these guys, I think versus like, you know, some of

1220
01:13:24,359 --> 01:13:27,159
the guys who are at a at a at a

1221
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:30,720
place where like they're not getting the other but like

1222
01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:35,079
k bert Ruiz for instance, like he's been fine as

1223
01:13:35,239 --> 01:13:37,960
a but he's like more in the model of like

1224
01:13:38,119 --> 01:13:41,920
the old catchers where it's like he's just getting catcher

1225
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,359
at bats, he's not getting anything else, or like you know,

1226
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:54,640
Carson Kelly or like even like the Gabriel Marino who

1227
01:13:54,680 --> 01:14:00,520
I saw on Saturday. Yeah, I mean, you know, so

1228
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,399
there's still guys who are getting the catcher only at bats,

1229
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,520
and you know, and they've and there's still and those

1230
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,720
guys who I just mentioned have been I mean they've

1231
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:15,000
been decent for just catchers, like they have positive value

1232
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,319
on the player raider. But you know, some of these

1233
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:22,479
other guys, I mean, like you know, Hunter Goodman has

1234
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,560
three hundred and seventy two play appearances versus like you know,

1235
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,159
k bert Ruiz, who has two hundred and nine. I

1236
01:14:31,159 --> 01:14:34,760
mean that's like, you know, one hundred and seventy played

1237
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,880
appearance is almost of a difference. It's huge. You can't

1238
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,039
I mean, that value is like you can't, you can't

1239
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:43,920
come close to that. If a guy is getting that

1240
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,239
many at bats or that many of play appearances, he'll

1241
01:14:47,319 --> 01:14:50,600
get so many more runs in RBIs just by virtue.

1242
01:14:52,119 --> 01:14:56,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I will say like we heard all

1243
01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:58,359
like I remember growing up and like, oh a, all

1244
01:14:58,399 --> 01:15:03,079
have dedicated DA that's why their offenses are better.

1245
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 2: But I feel like now.

1246
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: That the league has designated or has a DH across

1247
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,079
the board, yeah, there's there's so there's so limited d

1248
01:15:12,359 --> 01:15:15,600
H only players because they're they're using them to fill

1249
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,720
other places, backups and everything to become it by default

1250
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,199
because there's an extra one.

1251
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, totally.

1252
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1253
01:15:23,079 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 3: It's a good point.

1254
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like the you know, like if you look at

1255
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,880
like the the Rangers, like it's like they're because I

1256
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,399
just thought of them, because they're one of the few

1257
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,760
teams uh or even I guess the Pirates they have.

1258
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,399
Speaker 3: Ozuna uh and the Rangers have what you call it,

1259
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:44,479
Jack Jack Peterson. Like there's there's just so few teams

1260
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,760
that you can point at and be like, oh, well,

1261
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,560
that guy is a d H every day. So you know,

1262
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,680
but like you know, like Texas, like you know, uh,

1263
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,680
they have a more of an old school catcher situation

1264
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,960
because that Jack Peterson's always d hing. So like Higgashoki

1265
01:16:03,119 --> 01:16:05,439
is like you know, he's got one hundred and seventy

1266
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:10,079
three played appearances and he's leading the Rangers right now.

1267
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:12,359
It's like, you know, I mean, it's not like he's great,

1268
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:14,399
but like that's it.

1269
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:15,279
Speaker 1: You know.

1270
01:16:15,359 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 3: It's like the catcher at bats because like they're they're

1271
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,239
more spread out because he's not getting Higgashoki. It is

1272
01:16:22,279 --> 01:16:24,640
not like he's ever gonna get DH at bats because

1273
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,520
Jack Peterson, and he's not getting first base at bats

1274
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,239
because he doesn't play first base. But you have Danny

1275
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:35,159
Janssen there, Elias Diaz, like you have other arranger catchers

1276
01:16:35,159 --> 01:16:37,640
who are getting at bats, so it's more spread out,

1277
01:16:38,039 --> 01:16:41,319
so there's less fantasy value there. You know, not that

1278
01:16:41,359 --> 01:16:43,760
those guys ever would be good, but you know what

1279
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,439
I'm saying, it's like when a guy has a when

1280
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,199
a team has a designated DH, it changes it changes

1281
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:52,479
the dynamic of like how much they're going to use

1282
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,439
their catcher as a DH.

1283
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if they're not, you know, a great DH,

1284
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,199
it really does kind of feel like a waste of

1285
01:17:00,279 --> 01:17:02,239
a roster spot to not have somebody who can help

1286
01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:06,399
in the field. Speaking of guys who aren't hoping, Gray,

1287
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,640
I have to ask what these guys are doing on.

1288
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,159
Speaker 2: This list at all, Rickey Bets woy Bets.

1289
01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:16,039
Speaker 1: We talked about Mickey Moniac and Jeedy Pino also on

1290
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:16,680
this list.

1291
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,399
Speaker 3: Making Moniac has been making. Moniac's been so good in

1292
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:28,199
a pro pro rate, like a per game situation. Moniac's

1293
01:17:28,199 --> 01:17:28,840
been solid.

1294
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: No, I mean he's been fine. I don't know that

1295
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,840
he deserves the spot in the top one hundred. If

1296
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,439
I'm from being honest, here.

1297
01:17:42,039 --> 01:17:45,199
Speaker 3: Might I might have a special place in my making

1298
01:17:45,279 --> 01:17:49,439
moniac heart. I mean, I don't know.

1299
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been very solid, but it's still rocky.

1300
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: There's there's talk of trade with him.

1301
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: It feels like there's probably somebody else who.

1302
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: Should Yeah, you know, maybe Liam Hicks just just thrown

1303
01:18:06,079 --> 01:18:07,399
out Liam.

1304
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: You're gonna throw a bunch of other catchers on here.

1305
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we should have more catchers. That's what my

1306
01:18:14,079 --> 01:18:21,840
less needs. Yeah, man, more catchers, that's what we need. Uh,

1307
01:18:22,039 --> 01:18:26,000
let's see, I'm looking at per game. Oh no, yeah,

1308
01:18:26,039 --> 01:18:29,880
I mean he's solid per game. I mean, I get it.

1309
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:34,640
It's like, uh, definitely definitely could have went a different way.

1310
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,439
I'm I'm not arguing with Mickey Moniac, I guess, but

1311
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,920
he has been decent per game as good as Michael

1312
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:46,560
Harris a second and Aaron Judge specifically, and a little

1313
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,359
bit better than Jackson Churio. But yeah, I mean, you know,

1314
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:55,000
I get it. I am actually Mickey Moniac. I you know,

1315
01:18:55,159 --> 01:18:57,399
I am a little bit concerned if he gets traded.

1316
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,279
There is a little bit of an in there. So yeah,

1317
01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:05,000
I mean hopefully he doesn't get traded because that would

1318
01:19:05,159 --> 01:19:09,159
kind of hurt us what you call his value. So yeah,

1319
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:14,600
you know, I'm I'm not gonna disagree with that. Jeremy Payne,

1320
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,640
I think was I think he's just been injured, so

1321
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,359
I'm not I don't know. I feel like Jeremy Payne

1322
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:23,159
is fine if he's healthy, and you know, coming out

1323
01:19:23,159 --> 01:19:27,079
of the break, he should be healthy. I mean, you know,

1324
01:19:27,159 --> 01:19:29,760
as far as me knowing how healthy a guy is

1325
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,560
going to be, but he is, you know, coming off

1326
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,680
the il, and he's supposedly healthy. So if Jeremy Payne

1327
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,600
is healthy, I I think he's worth a top one

1328
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:40,159
hundred pick.

1329
01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:43,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I don't have as much problem with

1330
01:19:43,319 --> 01:19:47,560
Jeremy Payne as is specifically Murky and then Moniac just

1331
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,800
it feels like he hasn't quite earned it. But like

1332
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,279
you said on a per game he's been fine. I

1333
01:19:53,319 --> 01:19:56,600
will say kind of like the the injury history is

1334
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,760
definitely part of his equation too. I mean he's never

1335
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,359
played one hundred and forty games, so that's that's factored

1336
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,920
in for me as well. Yeah, this is also like,

1337
01:20:05,279 --> 01:20:08,560
so this is not obviously, this is not what the

1338
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,600
rankings are gonna look like for the preseason next year.

1339
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 3: But I will say with like Mookie Bets specifically, this

1340
01:20:16,079 --> 01:20:21,039
does feel like the the end. This is not doesn't

1341
01:20:21,039 --> 01:20:23,000
feel like the beginning of the end. This feels like

1342
01:20:23,119 --> 01:20:26,279
the end of like where he is ever in the

1343
01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:29,640
top one hundred, Like if he doesn't do something this

1344
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,760
second half, Like I feel like there's just no way

1345
01:20:34,319 --> 01:20:37,319
to get Mookie Bets in the top one hundred next year,

1346
01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:41,079
which is crazy. I mean he's I mean he's been

1347
01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:43,199
you know, he's been great for his whole career. It's

1348
01:20:43,239 --> 01:20:45,960
been a long time now that he has been solid.

1349
01:20:46,039 --> 01:20:50,439
But I can't I can't imagine Mookie Bets making it

1350
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:55,279
into the top one hundred next year, you know, like

1351
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,680
maybe around like where Brandon Nemo goes usually like one

1352
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,359
twenty to one forty range.

1353
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even think it's that. I don't even

1354
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:08,399
think it's that.

1355
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, it hadn't been like the sixty

1356
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,520
to seventy range this year, and I should have just

1357
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:19,800
buried him even further. I'm not gonna draft looking backs again.

1358
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:20,760
It's just not gonna happen.

1359
01:21:21,359 --> 01:21:24,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's yeah, I mean it's really hard to uh,

1360
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,840
it's hard to see where, like, it's hard to see

1361
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,159
where it's coming where he's coming out of this because

1362
01:21:31,279 --> 01:21:34,880
like his numbers are bad. I mean, right now, it's

1363
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,960
like he had he has eleven homers, one steal, and

1364
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:42,479
he's hitting two thirty five and he looks terrible. He

1365
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,159
literally he really looks kind of cooked.

1366
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does not look good.

1367
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, on the positive side, the hard hits up slightly,

1368
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:57,600
jackson velacidity is up slightly, but everything else pretty much

1369
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:02,720
in line. He's not swinging any faster, so he's slower. Yeah.

1370
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you make a strong case for him

1371
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,960
not even being in the top two hundred, And.

1372
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 1: I just don't know where the value comes from, and

1373
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,119
especially if they're like eventually the Dodgers can't let him

1374
01:22:15,159 --> 01:22:18,000
be in the top of the lineup, Like he has

1375
01:22:18,119 --> 01:22:21,680
to move he cannot hit two thirty five sub three

1376
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,880
hundred OVP, no power, no speed, and stay at the

1377
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,159
top of a world series continuing lineup.

1378
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,159
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is I wrote a Mookie Bets

1379
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:38,399
schmohawk post in the preseason. I e. Mookie Bets is overrated.

1380
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,079
I wrote that in the preseason of this year, and

1381
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,279
so that means so you know, well, you know, I

1382
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,720
pat myself on the back, but that also means that

1383
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,600
he was being overrated, which is great, which you know,

1384
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,199
because I I don't write those for like guys who

1385
01:22:55,239 --> 01:22:57,920
are being drafted like you know, late enough where it

1386
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,560
doesn't matter. Like that means he was probably being drafted

1387
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,680
in like the top fifty or top forty.

1388
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: Or yeah, he was going third round pretty pretty consistently

1389
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:09,680
in the drafts.

1390
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,359
Speaker 3: Crazy. That's crazy.

1391
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: Crazy people told me I was crazy for putting in

1392
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,600
the sixties seventies and overall, like I put him there

1393
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,600
based on complete respect for him as a person, nothing, nothing,

1394
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,960
due to the fact that he is still good fantasy

1395
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,399
based that put him at the lowest possible spot where

1396
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,119
I wouldn't get him. But it still didn't look like

1397
01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:32,560
I was being too crazy. That should have just been crazy.

1398
01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:33,399
I know.

1399
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 3: Well that's always see, that's always the thing that the

1400
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,800
calculus that's involved when you're doing rankings, because it's like

1401
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,399
you don't want to look too crazy, because when you

1402
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,479
look too crazy, people were like because like I could

1403
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,680
have I could have ranked cal Raleigh at like one

1404
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,119
hundred and fifty overall because I was never drafting him,

1405
01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:57,560
but I put him at like thirty or something because

1406
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,640
he was going at twenty. So I just ranked him

1407
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,359
like late enough where it's like, well, no one's drafting

1408
01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:08,239
him there he's going at like fifteen overall in some leagues,

1409
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,600
like I have him at you know, thirty or forty overall.

1410
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,159
Wherever I put cal Rawley and it was like, you know,

1411
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:17,399
that's late enough. Where I've made my point that like,

1412
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,279
don't draft him. But I could have easily put him

1413
01:24:20,279 --> 01:24:23,600
at one fifty. But the problem is it's the calculus

1414
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,920
of like if I put him at one fifty, people

1415
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,960
are gonna be like, oh, this guy's crazy crazy. They

1416
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:34,800
would have been like, oh, no, I'm disregarding everything he's

1417
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,000
saying because he's too crazy.

1418
01:24:39,159 --> 01:24:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1419
01:24:39,359 --> 01:24:41,319
Speaker 1: I mean, if you said, if you ranked cal Rawley

1420
01:24:41,359 --> 01:24:45,079
as the twenty catcher he's twenty eighth right now, By

1421
01:24:45,079 --> 01:24:47,960
the way, you would have been laughed out of the stadium,

1422
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,000
like you wouldn't have been given a seat, They would

1423
01:24:50,039 --> 01:24:51,680
have taken your labor team, they.

1424
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: Would have taken your cup team.

1425
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,159
Speaker 1: They would kick you off an FBC, like you wouldn't

1426
01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:59,239
be allowed to even even participate.

1427
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,520
Speaker 2: But you you would have been right, just like I

1428
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:02,199
would have been right.

1429
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 3: That's that's what I'm saying, because that's like the stuff

1430
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,920
that people don't even realize with like you know, it's like, oh,

1431
01:25:11,159 --> 01:25:14,600
like this is so dumb, but it's like this is

1432
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,039
really in the weeds right now. But I'm gonna say though,

1433
01:25:17,159 --> 01:25:19,600
because like you look at like a guy like, oh,

1434
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,439
it's like, oh, I'm not drafting uh you know Paul's

1435
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:28,520
schemes in any in any league. But I'm like, so

1436
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,520
I'll put him down at like you know, I don't know,

1437
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,039
I'll rank him at like fifty overall. I would have

1438
01:25:35,079 --> 01:25:38,199
done that. People would have been like, oh, you're real dumb.

1439
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,479
People would have been like you are such a dummy,

1440
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,800
Like you are like out of control dumb, Like it's

1441
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,640
not even like it's not even in the realm of

1442
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,119
making sense. How dumb you are, and you know, at

1443
01:25:52,119 --> 01:25:53,760
the end of the day, I would have been right.

1444
01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:57,399
But but at that point, like people would have been

1445
01:25:57,399 --> 01:25:59,520
in the preseason would have been they would have wrote

1446
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,680
me off as being dumb and we would have never

1447
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:05,359
got to this point. Would have been like, you're already dumb.

1448
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,760
I can't listen to someone this stupid.

1449
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Grey.

1450
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:15,359
Speaker 1: It would actually be a really fun, like use useless

1451
01:26:15,399 --> 01:26:18,319
waste of time travel to take like the previous years

1452
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,640
player enter and go back and redraft like in your

1453
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,359
in your time machine and just take the most crazy players.

1454
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,159
Be like twenty twenty five draft, I'm taking Pete crow

1455
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:30,600
Armstrong in the third round and.

1456
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 2: People be like, who who are you taking? And you're like,

1457
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,319
don't worry about it, it's it's fine.

1458
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: It would be okay, And I'm gonna draft Auto Lopez

1459
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,279
in the third round.

1460
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:45,359
Speaker 2: You're drafting who in the third round? Over over Paul's

1461
01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:48,319
schemes and uh Manny.

1462
01:26:48,079 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: Machado and Wriguez like what are you thinking?

1463
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,239
Speaker 2: And you'd be like, well, just wait.

1464
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's all that's the thing with always like

1465
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,520
you know, because Rudy and I, how did I get

1466
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,800
into it? Over this because it's like with the war room,

1467
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,479
it's like, oh, well, you could have waited an extra

1468
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,720
round to take that guy, and it's like, yeah, so

1469
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,039
I don't. Who cares. You get one week into the

1470
01:27:13,079 --> 01:27:16,039
season and no one cares where you could have took

1471
01:27:16,079 --> 01:27:19,359
a guy. It's like, oh, yeah, I could have waited

1472
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,239
an extra round to take James Wood, but I took

1473
01:27:23,319 --> 01:27:28,119
him at fifteen versus waiting until twenty five or thirty

1474
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:30,479
or whatever. But it's like, who cares. As long as

1475
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:31,520
I got him, you know.

1476
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely great, let's segon off it up and then

1477
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:36,880
we'll get out of here. No way to wire, no

1478
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,680
streams since we're on All Star break this week. In

1479
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,800
the words of Jesse from Breaking Bad, he can't keep

1480
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:49,279
getting away with this. Great Join Romano got another contract

1481
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,319
and there's two saves for the Rockies.

1482
01:27:54,119 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 2: You can't keep getting away with this.

1483
01:27:57,119 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 3: You know, the Rockies and the Angels could just trade

1484
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:07,479
players back back and forth, and because they're both in

1485
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,199
like their own heads, they won't even know. They'd be like, oh,

1486
01:28:11,279 --> 01:28:15,079
Jordan Romano is actually pretty good, Like okay, let's trade

1487
01:28:15,119 --> 01:28:19,239
for yeah what, and then the Angels will be like,

1488
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,600
you know, then a month later, the Rockets would be like, hey,

1489
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,640
you want join Romano and the Angels be like, yeah,

1490
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,159
that sounds good. Hey didn't we have that guy ready? No,

1491
01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:32,239
I don't know. I think we did. Maybe it doesn't matter, though,

1492
01:28:32,399 --> 01:28:36,800
does it. The Angels and the Rockies should have their

1493
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,840
own league going. It should be like twenty eight teams

1494
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,600
in the major leagues, and then the Angels and Rockies

1495
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:47,239
are just going back and forth. They just go back.

1496
01:28:47,399 --> 01:28:51,359
It's like Chris Bryant, you want to go to the Angels.

1497
01:28:54,079 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: No, I've never really thought relegation would work in the

1498
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:57,800
US GRAVE, and I.

1499
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: Think relegation might be from Major League Baseball.

1500
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:07,199
Speaker 1: Like if we could just get rid of Colorado, the Angels, you.

1501
01:29:07,159 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 2: Know, I mean probably the White Sox.

1502
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: I know they're they're doing better this year, but we

1503
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,880
could probably just go ahead and to save ourselves the

1504
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,640
pain and get rid of them.

1505
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,359
Speaker 3: You're only saying that as a Cubs fan with the

1506
01:29:23,359 --> 01:29:24,960
White Sox. Come on, be honest.

1507
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,560
Speaker 2: I mean the serve the team the last decade until

1508
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:30,039
this year.

1509
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll give you know, a rebuild is

1510
01:29:37,039 --> 01:29:41,479
a specific beast if you're actually have like I didn't

1511
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,800
think Chris gets added in them. But I mean, the

1512
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,039
White Sox are decent, so it's like if they're you know,

1513
01:29:48,039 --> 01:29:51,199
if they rebuild the team, that's good. The Angels and

1514
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:54,239
the Rockies, on the other hand, they can't. They're not rebuilding.

1515
01:29:54,319 --> 01:29:57,840
They're just like the Angels and the Rockies are like,

1516
01:29:58,079 --> 01:30:04,159
you won, Adam Fraser, Okay, I'll take like what what hey,

1517
01:30:04,359 --> 01:30:07,239
yon Mancata, you want to go to the Rockies. We've

1518
01:30:07,279 --> 01:30:10,199
already We've had your already on the Angels. We can't.

1519
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,359
We can't trade with anyone else but the Rockets. It's

1520
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,199
that we get relegated.

1521
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 1: The White Sox are leading in the division where four

1522
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,479
teams in the division are not trying to win anything.

1523
01:30:24,119 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 3: So no one's trying to win in the Al Central.

1524
01:30:27,279 --> 01:30:30,279
That's true, I'll give you that. The Ale Central is

1525
01:30:30,319 --> 01:30:34,399
basically just it's a jump ball every year. It's like

1526
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,720
usually the Guardians do win that jump ball, but it's

1527
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,439
it's very it is up in the air because of

1528
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,760
the fact that no one trusts that division ever Twins.

1529
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:49,520
The Twins are actively trying to lose every year. They're like, huh,

1530
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:51,880
who do we have good and can we get rid

1531
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:53,079
of them?

1532
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,119
Speaker 2: The Royals are like, you know, they think they're gonna

1533
01:30:56,119 --> 01:30:57,680
be good. We all think they're gonna be good.

1534
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 3: The Royals are actually, yeah, the Royals are the worst

1535
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,840
because they actually are trying to because royals. The Royals

1536
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,600
are like the little sister or little brother. You have

1537
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,319
their hand on their head and they can't hit you.

1538
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:19,880
They're just like anyway, Jordan Romano is not good and

1539
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:24,000
I would not pick him up. Moving on, do not.

1540
01:31:24,199 --> 01:31:26,159
Speaker 1: Oh we're in Baltimore. Do you want Andrew Kittridge or

1541
01:31:26,199 --> 01:31:27,800
Tyler Wells. They've both been getting.

1542
01:31:28,359 --> 01:31:34,560
Speaker 3: I would say probably Tyler Wells, because you know, just

1543
01:31:35,359 --> 01:31:39,319
usage more or less. I know Kittridge did get a save,

1544
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,199
but I think that was because Tyler Wells had worth

1545
01:31:42,279 --> 01:31:45,560
the previous days. So I would say probably Tyler Wells,

1546
01:31:46,039 --> 01:31:48,600
but it could be either. It could be Kittridge or Wells.

1547
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,920
And yeah, I mean they're they're both worth picking up.

1548
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,640
I would I would actually pick up both of them

1549
01:31:55,039 --> 01:31:57,119
if I had room, and just to see how it

1550
01:31:57,239 --> 01:32:01,479
shakes out. It seems like well I would go Wells

1551
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,239
sixty forty, but it could be Kittridge.

1552
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's kind of up in the air,

1553
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:08,640
back and forth.

1554
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:13,279
Speaker 1: Kittridge got a couple this week, wells got I think

1555
01:32:13,319 --> 01:32:13,720
a couple of.

1556
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:14,520
Speaker 2: The previous week.

1557
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: So it feels a little bit back and forth. I

1558
01:32:17,079 --> 01:32:18,600
went through that I would pick them both up. I

1559
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,920
think I would. I would prioritize Kittridge just because he

1560
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,279
got the last couple saves, but.

1561
01:32:24,319 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 2: I think it's going to go back and forth between

1562
01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:27,039
them to some extent.

1563
01:32:28,199 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the White Sox. Great Grant Taylor got

1564
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,279
to save this week. Is he officially their closer or

1565
01:32:33,279 --> 01:32:36,680
do you think there's still a closer committee here.

1566
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 3: Well, the good news is I think it's a I

1567
01:32:42,039 --> 01:32:44,760
think it's mostly grand Taylor's job, but I do think

1568
01:32:45,239 --> 01:32:47,920
and even better news is I think they finally have

1569
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,960
moved on from Sir Anthony Domingez. But I do think

1570
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,720
there is a chance that like Brian Hudson or Sean

1571
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:58,640
Newcomb both could potentially get saves. They're in the mix,

1572
01:32:59,039 --> 01:33:03,199
as they say, but I think it's grand Taylor probably.

1573
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,279
I would go even as high as maybe seventy five

1574
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:11,319
twenty five seventy five Grand Taylor twenty five split between

1575
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:15,000
Neukom and Hudson. I think Domingos is probably you could

1576
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,399
probably drop Dimngos and I'm saying that actually to myself

1577
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,800
because I still have them for some reason, I still

1578
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,000
have domngos, So you can drop them. I'm looking in

1579
01:33:25,039 --> 01:33:25,840
the mirror right now.

1580
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you go ahead and drop them.

1581
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: His numbers are clearly starting to kind of decline this year,

1582
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,720
and it just does not look like the same guy.

1583
01:33:35,359 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 2: And I with you.

1584
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: I think Grant Taylor's the guy, and it was always

1585
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,439
a little bit of just on the white Sox Gunner

1586
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,039
actually be in and try and win these games or

1587
01:33:43,079 --> 01:33:46,079
are they trying to build up somebody's trade value. It

1588
01:33:46,119 --> 01:33:48,680
seems like they're on the more of the winning games

1589
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,640
side now, since you know they can win a vision

1590
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:56,279
that nobody wants to win over a staying in Chicago

1591
01:33:56,359 --> 01:33:58,399
on the other side of town. Four guys have a

1592
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,319
save in the last two weeks. Is anybody the closer there?

1593
01:34:03,399 --> 01:34:08,239
Speaker 3: Well, I wish Jacob Jacob Jacob Web would pull away,

1594
01:34:08,359 --> 01:34:14,640
But yeah, I mean he hasn't, So there's that I say.

1595
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,279
I wish he would because I have Web in a

1596
01:34:17,319 --> 01:34:23,000
few leagues. I think Web is probably barely I would

1597
01:34:23,079 --> 01:34:25,199
say this is much closer to the fifty to fifty.

1598
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:29,119
I would say Web is probably probably fifty five forty

1599
01:34:29,159 --> 01:34:32,359
five with between Web and the other guys, I would

1600
01:34:32,399 --> 01:34:36,479
say Web is fifty five, and then it's like and

1601
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,319
then it's sort of you know, it's like thorn in

1602
01:34:41,079 --> 01:34:45,760
thigh bar any anyone raul listen. I think it's even

1603
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:50,199
gone to save, So it's anyone really after Web. Unfortunately,

1604
01:34:50,239 --> 01:34:54,920
I don't think there's any hierarchy hierarchy of like who's

1605
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,000
going to get saved there. I think it's Web and

1606
01:34:57,039 --> 01:34:59,239
then just a bunch of other guys. Potentially.

1607
01:35:01,079 --> 01:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say Webbin is the leader, but I'm

1608
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,479
with you, I don't think it's anybody. If the Cubs

1609
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,880
are gonna make a push, I could definitely see them

1610
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,840
going and finding a closer at the trade deadline.

1611
01:35:12,079 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 2: Over in Texas. Seems like Jake Latts is the closer there.

1612
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:17,159
Are you buying it?

1613
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 3: Hmm, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah. I think Jake Lats has

1614
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:26,920
been great and he's been solid for better part of

1615
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:31,239
the year. I mean, oddly enough, because he doesn't you know,

1616
01:35:31,279 --> 01:35:33,199
he doesn't really strike out a ton of people. His

1617
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,000
stuff isn't I don't think he's got like, you know,

1618
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:41,720
quote unquote closer stuff necessarily, but he's been solid so yeah,

1619
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,520
Jack Jacob Latz, Yeah, it's closer.

1620
01:35:45,399 --> 01:35:49,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And now San Francisco, Caleb Killian got

1621
01:35:49,319 --> 01:35:52,159
the last saved, maybe the last two saves actually, but

1622
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:54,960
there's a couple other people there in the mix. Are

1623
01:35:55,399 --> 01:35:56,920
you go with Killian or do you think this is

1624
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,600
still a bit of a mess as well? Uh?

1625
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean the Giants, the Giants are not

1626
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,359
a good team, and and their bullpen's a mess. I'd

1627
01:36:07,399 --> 01:36:14,800
say Eric Miller kill Eric Miller then Killian, Maybe maybe

1628
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,600
Killian then Miller. I don't know, you know, because Eric

1629
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,399
Miller's a lefty, so you have to factor that in.

1630
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:24,319
I guess I wouldn't go. I honestly, I would avoid

1631
01:36:24,319 --> 01:36:28,159
the Giants their bullpen. I don't think it's worth it,

1632
01:36:28,279 --> 01:36:32,800
Like you know, as Killian has eight saves on the

1633
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,359
year and a four to seven four year ra is

1634
01:36:36,399 --> 01:36:39,680
it were those eight saves really worth it? I mean that's,

1635
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:44,840
you know, a philosophical question for you, but I mean

1636
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,720
it was it. I don't know. I'd probably avoid the

1637
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:48,159
whole thing.

1638
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the twelve era over the last two weeks

1639
01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:55,359
isn't isn't great for Caleb Killian. He is the only

1640
01:36:55,359 --> 01:36:59,239
one that's gotten saves, although he gets rocked pretty much

1641
01:36:59,239 --> 01:37:01,000
every other time he was out.

1642
01:37:01,279 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1643
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 1: I grab Eric Miller. He's the only one who's been

1644
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:08,359
good in that bullpen. Killian seems like the guy who's

1645
01:37:08,359 --> 01:37:11,439
gonna get saved even though he shouldn't for now. Uh.

1646
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:12,279
Speaker 2: And then there's JT.

1647
01:37:12,399 --> 01:37:16,319
Speaker 1: Brubaker, who gets the occasional save when Killian's not around,

1648
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,880
or just you know, the giants being the giants. So

1649
01:37:20,239 --> 01:37:21,920
those are the three I would look at but not

1650
01:37:22,039 --> 01:37:25,840
really excited about either one necessarily.

1651
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,239
Speaker 2: Here let's uh.

1652
01:37:28,279 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: Let's move over to Pittsburgh Gray Uh, Mason Montgomery gets

1653
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,199
a save, Gregory Soto has a save in the last

1654
01:37:34,279 --> 01:37:34,960
couple of weeks.

1655
01:37:36,159 --> 01:37:39,079
Speaker 2: Who do you think gets the gets the job here?

1656
01:37:40,119 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 3: Well, I put in a fab bed for Mason Montgomery

1657
01:37:46,119 --> 01:37:49,560
on Sunday and I did not get it. And I

1658
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,640
don't know if I'm supposed to be happy or sad

1659
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:57,920
about that. They're both greg Gregory Soto is sort of

1660
01:37:58,119 --> 01:38:00,920
you know, he's he he won the job, then lost

1661
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:04,119
the job, and then always like maybe has the job.

1662
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,000
And him and Montgomery a bro are both lefties, so

1663
01:38:08,399 --> 01:38:11,279
you know, I think that complicates the situation. I like

1664
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:16,680
Montgomery better than Sodo. I don't think it's clear cut.

1665
01:38:17,159 --> 01:38:21,760
And I also I'm really hoping the pirates go and

1666
01:38:22,079 --> 01:38:25,680
try and get a close, like a roll this chatman

1667
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:30,439
sitting there. Send send someone you know, send send the

1668
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:35,039
prospect and get a roll this chatman back to Pittsburgh.

1669
01:38:35,079 --> 01:38:38,359
Get they they need. The Pittsburgh Pirates need a closer,

1670
01:38:40,319 --> 01:38:43,520
and I'm offering my services to be their GM. Go

1671
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,560
get a closer. I don't. I don't know what else

1672
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:50,319
to saying, Man, get a closer. Unfortunately, I think the

1673
01:38:50,359 --> 01:38:54,960
pirates are probably selling, just because they always are selling,

1674
01:38:55,319 --> 01:38:57,800
so I don't know why I would think they'd be buying.

1675
01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:04,760
But yeah, I would say Montgomery or Sodo. I would

1676
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:09,039
put Montgomery above Sodo, but barely. And they're both lefties,

1677
01:39:09,119 --> 01:39:10,279
so who knows.

1678
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think Montgomery's better than Sodo. But

1679
01:39:15,399 --> 01:39:17,960
who the pirates go with, I'm not sure. I do

1680
01:39:18,079 --> 01:39:21,199
not expect them to make any deals to acquire anyone,

1681
01:39:21,239 --> 01:39:24,000
because that's not what they do unless they're picking up

1682
01:39:24,079 --> 01:39:26,000
like Brian Hayes for.

1683
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 2: The sixth time.

1684
01:39:27,319 --> 01:39:30,600
Speaker 1: That's that's just not what the pirates don't. They don't

1685
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,880
go out and find pieces. Maybe if they can get

1686
01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:37,199
like they're probably not gonna get the top of the vision,

1687
01:39:37,239 --> 01:39:40,640
but then get a wild card spot before the trade deadline,

1688
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,960
maybe they do something. But I would assume if they're

1689
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,840
even like a game pack at the trade deadline, they

1690
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:48,920
will just say, oh, we can't make it and sell

1691
01:39:49,279 --> 01:39:53,640
as they used to do. That's gonna do it for

1692
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,039
us this week. If you have any other questions, you

1693
01:39:56,039 --> 01:39:58,399
can find us on x I Am at rasbeat on

1694
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,600
Green is at ras Ball. You find us in the

1695
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:04,199
comments section on YouTube dot com slash Rasball Fantasy or

1696
01:40:04,239 --> 01:40:06,680
in the comments on rasball dot com.

1697
01:40:07,039 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 2: There you enjoy your all star break, Gray.

1698
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna take a little bit of time off,

1699
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:15,119
well deserved and uh hopefully it'll be an entertaining festivity

1700
01:40:15,399 --> 01:40:17,000
unlike the last few years.

1701
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 2: Thanks all right, great talk to you later.

1702
01:40:21,239 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 3: All right, lads,