WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.600 Hey, y'all, we're on break and hope you're enjoying the 2 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:04.639 holidays too. But just in case you're missing your daily 3 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:06.679 dose of The Chicks, we have something special for you. 4 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:09.679 We hope you enjoy this replay of one of our 5 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:11.960 favorite interviews and make sure to tune in this year 6 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:14.199 from some exciting new ones that we have coming up. 7 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:16.600 Welcome to another deep dive edition of The Chicks on 8 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:20.120 the Right Podcast. Man, are we ever excited about our guests? 9 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:20.480 Today? 10 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:23.440 We have Megan Kelly with us, who have a course 11 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:26.199 is a journalist the host of The Megan Kelly Show, 12 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:30.000 which is available on Serious XEM Triumph Channel one eleven 13 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:33.320 every weekday at noon Eastern and also can be found 14 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:36.520 at YouTube dot com, slash Megan Kelly, or just wherever 15 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:37.640 you get your podcasts. 16 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:40.200 But honestly, you barely. 17 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:42.799 Need introduction because I think most everybody knows who you are. 18 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:46.359 They've been following your career for a long time. So 19 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:48.880 we thought we would kick it off by asking if 20 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.560 you could tell us something about you that most people 21 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:53.200 don't know. 22 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:59.039 Hmmm. I mean, I'm an aspiring guitar player. I highly 23 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:04.439 tar that John Rich actually gave me about fifteen years ago. 24 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.239 And it actually has my name and mother of pearl 25 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.480 along the neck of it, and on the case it 26 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:14.040 reads practice, which was his only message to me. And 27 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:15.959 I have failed to do because fifteen years later I 28 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:17.640 am just as bad as I was all those years ago. 29 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:21.359 And again, Oh my goodness, Hope springs a journal. That's fantastic. 30 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.120 So did you play any other instruments, like as a 31 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:23.799 kid or anything. 32 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:26.760 Oh? Yes, I was a mean clarinet player. I was 33 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:28.480 first chair. I'll have you know, first chair. 34 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:30.840 Get that. 35 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:35.319 It is awesome, fantastic, Probably not a little not a 36 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:36.200 lot of people knew that. 37 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:37.159 So that was a good one. 38 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:38.640 That was very good. 39 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:40.640 Thank you for making me disclose it. 40 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.840 Yeah, I didn't see that coming at all. As you know, 41 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.719 I am a chronic insomniac. I have trouble sleeping a lot, 42 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:50.439 and that's partly because of who I am, partly because 43 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:54.640 of menopause. 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We can't afford to lose anybody. We don't 79 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:33.639 have enough numbers to begin with. There's four Democrats and 80 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.560 there are Republicans, and half the Republicans have now become independent, 81 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.360 So like, we can't lose the right flank to weird 82 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:42.960 conspiratorial thinking about Taylor Swift. So come home, come back, 83 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.919 come back, like they've been untethered. There's no plan between 84 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:49.759 the NFL and the refs and the Chiefs and the 85 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.919 forty nine ers and Taylor and Travis and Joe Biden 86 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:56.560 to give him the election? What about? 87 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:57.719 What about? 88 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:01.400 People really do believe this and they're convinced that there's 89 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.439 like I mean, there's like number theories and the people 90 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:08.039 that are convinced of it are surprising me. Like the vake, 91 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:11.000 like pick this up, and some of the more popular 92 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:14.280 conservative influencers that are just determined to make this a 93 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.560 thing is just blowing my mind. 94 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.480 I mean, I think there's some cynicism there. I think 95 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.600 some people who are pushing it just want clicks. I mean, 96 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:23.120 on Twitter now on x you get money for the 97 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.519 more engagement you get. So it's fine to say outrageous 98 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:28.160 things because the whole name of the game is getting 99 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.439 clicks and getting likes and getting it retweeted. So that's 100 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:33.399 I mean, there are some cynical people doing that. The 101 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:36.480 veg I wasn't that surprised he's conspiratorial. I like the bank, 102 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:39.519 but he's definitely gone conspiratorial since he threw his hat 103 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:41.600 in the national politics. So like, if you're going to 104 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.120 suggest nine to eleven was an inside job, this is 105 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:47.079 right up your alley. Yeah, you know. It's like if 106 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.120 you believe in pizzagate, which is a very big thing 107 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:51.560 in the Q community, you easily buy this. I get it. 108 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:54.800 I'm not with you at all, but I understand it's 109 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.959 all the same cast of characters. I will say, Look, 110 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:00.560 like any of these great conspiracy theories, there are some 111 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:04.519 nuggets that make sense. Like we were watching the game 112 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:07.720 last week when the Chiefs won, and my husband, who's 113 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:09.759 as far away from a conspiracy theorist as you can get, 114 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:11.639 was like, these reps are totally putting a thumb on 115 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.959 the scale for Kansas City. They want the NFL wants 116 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:18.360 Kansas City to go to the super Bowl because money, 117 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:22.040 because of totally Yeah, because Taylor like going and you 118 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:24.759 saw the numbers like she boosted the final viewership. 119 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:27.639 Or under thirty million. Yeah, yeah, that makes. 120 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.040 Perfect sense to me that like the NFL would really 121 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:32.720 be wishing for this to happen. But yeah, the connection 122 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:36.959 to the yeah, just stop. She's going to endorse Joe Biden. 123 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.720 She's going to vote Democrat. She's going to tell all 124 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.279 of her little followers to get registered and to vote Democrat. 125 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:45.920 Maybe they'll get registered like thirty five thousand did after 126 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:47.920 that concert where she said it, and then they're probably 127 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:49.800 not going to vote. I've been doing this long enough 128 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:51.959 to know how this goes. They don't vote. Young people 129 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:52.560 don't vote. 130 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.560 I love that optimism. Yeah, because I mean that that 131 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.079 poll that came up, what was it, like Redfield and 132 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:01.680 Wilton strategies or something. I don't even know, but I 133 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.040 look at that and I think, Okay, eighteen percent of 134 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:09.000 eligible voters are gonna vote or at least be skewed 135 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:11.240 by who she votes. I don't. I don't really buy 136 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.399 that either, because I have young people in my life 137 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.319 who are of that age that can vote and that 138 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.680 like her, but don't give a crap who she votes for. 139 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:21.160 So I'm not buying it either. 140 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:23.160 Megan, and you guys have been around long enough to 141 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:26.920 see all these election cycles. Every celebrity is a Democrat, 142 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.720 like right, who the f have you know? Like the 143 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.959 John d Rock like okay that like those guys, but 144 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:38.079 like the Republicans have always been up against this. Right, 145 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:41.439 they don't win elections based on celebrity endorsements or they 146 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:45.399 would never have one ever. So I just I'm not 147 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.600 worried about this, And who cares. Like Taylor Swift, She's fine. 148 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:50.399 It's it's a little much for me too, like seeing 149 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:53.519 her the in the in the booth every game, It's 150 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.279 like enough enough. But yes, you know, we have go 151 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:58.680 through cycles with these celebrities. She'll come back down that 152 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:00.160 she'll go back like people need to really. 153 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:04.720 You think, Okay, I don't know, man, She's been I mean, 154 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:07.600 she is, her star is way up there right now, 155 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:10.000 and of course I just look at them like it's 156 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.480 a fun love story. And you know, the people that 157 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:16.000 actually think this is a made up, fake relationship, I'm 158 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.079 just like, what, isn't it just possible that the simplest 159 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:23.279 explanation is the truth that they just genuinely are in 160 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:25.720 love and it's a new, happy couple And maybe she'll 161 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:27.639 write a breakup song about him at some point, but 162 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:29.800 right now everything seems okay. 163 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:33.360 I don't know, I have no idea what the basis 164 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:35.079 of that relationship is, but I do know for sure 165 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.040 Hollywood couples get together for PR. I mean I know 166 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:40.639 that just from having been connected to that industry for 167 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:42.920 a long time. They some of them do get together 168 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:46.160 just to get on magazines and get good PR. I 169 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:49.160 don't have any reason to believe that's what's happening here. 170 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:52.639 But look, if I had to put money on it, 171 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:56.560 I would say he's in more danger than she is 172 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:00.839 of getting dumped, and she's going to write a song 173 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.639 about it, and it's probably not going to wind up 174 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:06.079 happily ever after. For those trees not a good track record. 175 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:09.079 I totally agree with that. Yeah, she's such an so hopeful. 176 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.639 You are the god. She loves Valentine's Day so much, Magan, 177 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:16.720 you're the one. She's the one one. 178 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:18.519 Yes, Valentine's Day. 179 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:20.319 She's the one. I go on, I love it, I 180 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.600 love it Valentine's Day. I wear all black. Yes, she's 181 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:23.079 the one. 182 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:26.120 Yeah, we don't do in my marriage, we don't do 183 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:29.199 Valentine's Day. Like, there's nothing. I'm not explaining that, nor 184 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:30.800 do I want you know that we may have some 185 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:32.240 Valentine's Day action, but. 186 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:37.480 Yeah, totally, yes, it's an excuse. 187 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:39.159 You're still recognizing it. 188 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.240 Then you're still recognizing it as Valentine's Day actions, celebrations, 189 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:48.039 and that's a way to celebrate. I think, yeah, all right, 190 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:49.879 well enough Taylor, because I know for a lot of 191 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:53.039 people are just sick to death of yes about her. 192 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:54.519 So we'll move on. 193 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.080 And not that anybody is more interested in talking about 194 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:00.759 eg and Carroll, but she's obviously another huge story that's 195 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:03.600 taking hold of everybody right now. 196 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:06.080 Because of this ginormous. 197 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:09.159 Judgment that Trump has had to pay her eighty three 198 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:12.919 point three plus million dollars as a result of the 199 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:16.759 defamation case. So in your legal opinion, because we've heard 200 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:20.919 lots of varying opinions about this. Does he have a 201 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:25.279 prayer for on appeal or is he Is he really 202 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:26.559 going to be on the hook for that money. 203 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:31.440 He has a small prayer, but it's not a great one. Really, 204 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:34.240 I'm not feeling great about it, you know. I think 205 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:36.600 his best line of argument is that he should have 206 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:38.879 been allowed to take the stand and deny the charges, 207 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:43.840 like speak robustly to the principal underlying charges and why 208 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:45.759 he said the thing that they now are supposed to 209 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:49.799 be punishing him for denying in a way that they 210 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.720 said was defamatory. This judgement did not allow him to 211 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:54.960 get back into whether or not he sexually assaulted her. 212 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:57.360 He's like, well, we already decided that at the other trial, 213 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:59.720 and now you're stuck with it. But any McCarthy, who 214 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:01.759 I love if he writes for National Review, a brilliant lawyer. 215 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:04.559 He made a great point. I totally agree with it. 216 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:06.720 When you take away the ability of the jury to 217 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.759 have the fulfillment of saying you did the bad thing, 218 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:15.480 we're finding you liable for doing the terrible thing, and 219 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:19.200 just say to them, give us a dollar amount you're 220 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:23.320 going to get inflated judgments because they didn't express any 221 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:25.840 of their anger, any of the resentment they've built up 222 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:29.519 against this defendant during the trial with a verdict on liability, 223 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:33.200 it's kind of all been held for the dollar amount phased. 224 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.519 This wasn't even the same jury as before. So it's 225 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:38.600 like you handicapped him right from the get go in 226 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:43.159 getting a reasonable punitive damages award. I will say this ROBERTA. Kaplin, 227 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.799 who I really can't stand. But she's a good lawyer, 228 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:49.720 she says, and I believe her as an officer of 229 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:53.399 the court there representation that it's generally an assessing punitive 230 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:57.159 damages in this court. It's is it like more than 231 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:00.320 six to one? And this is not sick more six 232 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.200 to one? It's right on the cost of being too 233 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.600 high to be upheld. But you know how it is 234 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:07.279 like the appellate courts aren't going to be any more 235 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:10.320 sympathetic to Trump than these lower courts were. So he's 236 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:11.639 got a chance, but it's not a good one. 237 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:12.679 Yeah. 238 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:15.519 So was that out of the norm in terms of 239 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:18.960 process then, because that's what I was confused about, because 240 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:20.799 I kept hearing well he was he was denied this 241 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.320 opportunity to get on the stand and talk about, you know, 242 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:26.360 the fact that he believes genuinely that she's a liar 243 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.919 and so, and he wanted to argue that. But then 244 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:33.080 I heard too that, well that's already been decided and 245 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.440 this is only about the dollar amount. So is that 246 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:39.960 not normal? Is that not how a trial like this 247 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:42.879 is supposed to go? And that's why bonus intention. 248 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:45.919 Yes, I think this judge took a risk in shutting 249 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.799 down the discussion entirely. I think a defendant has a 250 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.600 right to get up there and say because look at 251 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.039 punitive damages are meant to stop him from ever seeing 252 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:58.000 the things again. Like the lawyer argued in her closing, ROBERTA. Kaplin, 253 00:11:58.159 --> 00:11:59.879 you've got to make him feel it. He's a rich man, 254 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:01.879 so it's got to be a huge dollar amount, so 255 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:03.799 he will never say these things about her again. You know, 256 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:05.840 she's a cook, she made it up, she's a lunatic. Whatever. 257 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:08.799 So why can't I mean, if you're a judge, she 258 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:11.039 just doesn't want to get reversed. Why wouldn't you bend 259 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:13.240 over backwards to be fair to the defendant? What harm 260 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:15.960 is caused by him looking at the jury and saying, 261 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:18.799 I'll say it to you right here. There's the reason 262 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:21.279 I said those things that that other jury said were 263 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.919 defamatory or said amounted to sexual abuse, and word defamatory 264 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:29.120 is because I genuinely have never seen this person again. 265 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:31.840 She must be a kook to be suing me for 266 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.120 this stuff. I recognize another jury by fifty one percent 267 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.759 to forty nine percent that was the legal standard, and 268 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.159 that earlier civil case didn't believe me. But I'm telling 269 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.120 you that is the reason I said what I said. 270 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:45.679 I think it could have softened them. And they tied 271 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.960 his hands behind his back to say, you basically can't 272 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:51.720 fight this case. They took away all of his weapons. 273 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.039 So I do think he had an uphill battle to 274 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:55.399 start with, and he didn't make it any better for 275 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:57.759 himself and not testifying in the underlying trial on his 276 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:02.240 liability and then he had double justices like against him, 277 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:03.720 and that's how we wound up here. 278 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.039 But she's not making it any better on herself either. 279 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.960 I mean, you look at her, my goodness, like going 280 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:12.679 on Rachel mad We're going to go shopping ladies and 281 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:14.679 all that. I mean, just the stuff that she said, 282 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.399 like to Anderson Cooper and. 283 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.480 How she's cat tit Tits. 284 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.720 Oh my Godaina, there's another one. 285 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:27.240 Maybe it's a dog, might be a cat. Maybe the 286 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:32.200 cat is it here, Vagina? That didn't makes sense. 287 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:33.399 That is abuse. 288 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:35.000 That is like cat abuse. 289 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.559 I mean, it's very very hyper focused. 290 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.440 I was completely unaware that she had a cat named Tits. 291 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:44.600 I was until I was today years old when I 292 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:45.720 learned that from Megan Kelly. 293 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:48.919 Yeah, a dog, I can't remember, but one of the two, 294 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:50.720 for sure. She bragged about it. We played a clip 295 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:53.519 she bragged about it. Wow, she's a very strange person. 296 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:56.360 And you know, you look at her celebratory like, haha, 297 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.120 I'm gonna buy you France Rachel made Survivor. 298 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:04.159 Right. And this is the thing, I mean, it's we 299 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.240 I'm sure we all know people who have been raped 300 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.960 and and that. So I look at her and I 301 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.960 look at what was awarded to her and how she's acting, 302 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:15.919 and and it just and it makes it's disgusting. It 303 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:18.960 makes me sick, just the way else when. 304 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:21.159 They argue for the punitive damages, that's the big that's 305 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.840 the big piece of this award. They said she needs 306 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.080 the money because she's got to go out there in 307 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:31.320 conservative media and rebuild her reputation that Trump destroyed by 308 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:38.600 all the how many how many conservative shows did she call? You? Girls? 309 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:48.200 Saw her on? Exactly? It was a lie. It was 310 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.120 a lie. He lied to that jury through her lawyer. 311 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:53.320 The jury bought it, hook line and sinker, or just 312 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:55.759 wanted to punish Trump more than likely totally and the 313 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:57.279 media won't hold her to account. 314 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:59.080 What do you make of his uh? 315 00:14:59.799 --> 00:14:59.960 His? 316 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.879 I guess his lead council in that case, Elena Hobba, 317 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:05.919 because she gets a lot of she gets mixed reviews, 318 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:09.559 And I'm just wondering how you view her legal prowess. 319 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:12.440 I mean, is she serving him well or is there 320 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:13.519 more that she could just start? 321 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.399 I do, I haven't been following it that closely, but 322 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:19.240 I'll be honest, I haven't been impressed. Have not No, Yeah, 323 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:21.639 that's the truth. And then quick about her, where they 324 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:23.519 were asked would you rather be pretty or smart? She 325 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.159 said pretty? Like? All right, Well you should. 326 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.320 Mean she's not you are not winning if you wouldn't 327 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.360 answer that, yeah, And she's her record, I mean, she's 328 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:32.879 not winning very much winning. 329 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:35.440 She's probably gonna get dumped soon because Trump dumps the 330 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.960 ones who don't win. For him. Yeah, like that one 331 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:42.320 precinct commander in Iowa, the one county that he lost. 332 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:45.360 He won ninety eight out of the ninety nine counties, 333 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:47.960 and he fired the one who he lost by one vote. 334 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.159 And that person got fired and no longer needed. And 335 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:51.879 you know, we have a general election to go, but 336 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.159 that person. Look, I don't blame him. I would fire 337 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:55.720 somebody who lost for me twice too. 338 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:56.200 Yeah. 339 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.480 I haven't been impressed by her, but in fairness, I 340 00:15:58.480 --> 00:15:59.639 haven't been watching her that closely. 341 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.399 I mean, eighty three million dollars. I'd probably fire the 342 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:03.639 person too. 343 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.240 There's no way in the world that you remember this, 344 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:12.120 which is completely fine, But way back in the day 345 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:15.080 probably I want to say, at least ten years ago, 346 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:17.320 when we were doing radio, we had you on our 347 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:20.679 show and we were brand spanking new to radio, and 348 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:23.120 it was right after I think it was right after 349 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:24.679 you'd written a book, and so we had you on 350 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:25.720 to talk about your book. 351 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:27.240 And there was. 352 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:30.720 Some controversy happening at the time with Matt Walsh, and 353 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.679 I know you had a beef with him recently on 354 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:34.120 Twitter about then. 355 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:35.240 There was a controversy. 356 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:39.799 Yes, there was controversy because he's always been the same 357 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:43.639 guy when it comes to women have their place and 358 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:45.440 that needs to be at home, and they shouldn't have 359 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.120 careers and all that stuff. So and it was about that, 360 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:50.320 and we talked to you about that, and you said 361 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:54.120 something that has never left my brain, and I loved 362 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:55.759 how you said it, and I refer back to it 363 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:59.039 all the time because I struggled with his arguments. 364 00:16:59.120 --> 00:16:59.919 He's very personal. 365 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:02.960 He's an excellent writer, as I'm sure you know, and 366 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.319 his criticisms were like getting to me. And I remember 367 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:09.319 that I asked you about it in that show and 368 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:15.200 you said, I just know that having a career and family, 369 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:19.559 having that career makes me the best version of myself 370 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.000 for my family. And I was like, that is the 371 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.799 perfect way to describe how we think. I think, how 372 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:30.440 we feel about our own careers. It just really resonated 373 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:32.359 with me. And so when I saw you guys kind 374 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:34.359 of beefing about a month ago or three weeks ago 375 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:38.279 or whatever about the similar issue, we had to. 376 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:38.720 Bring it up. 377 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:40.160 We had to bring it up with you again and 378 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:42.119 see how that all got resolved and all that. 379 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:44.799 You know, Matt. I love Matt. I love what he's 380 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:47.240 doing on the gender ideology and pushing back. And I 381 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:49.680 loved what is a Woman? But I couldn't disagree with 382 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.279 him more on virtually everything he says about actual women. 383 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.720 I'm with him on the trans women. I don't think 384 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:58.599 he understands us at all when it comes to actual women. 385 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:01.880 And again, having said that I like the guy, I'm 386 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:05.599 getting a little tired of his NonStop judgment of women 387 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:08.000 who make different choices than the ones he wants us 388 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:11.480 to make. Sorry, Matt, you're not our Jesus. We don't 389 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.680 answer to you. You like fucking live Sorry, live your 390 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:16.599 life the way you want to live it, and stop 391 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:19.000 judging everybody who makes a different choice. I'm sick of it. 392 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:23.400 Like I and I know you gals, you don't generally women. 393 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:25.960 We're not judging moms who choose to stay at home 394 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:28.799 and raise their kids. That's a choice we celebrate, we love. 395 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:30.880 Those are our sisters and our friends and our moms. 396 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:34.240 Women aren't doing this to other women. For the most part. 397 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:36.960 It's guys like Matt, Like, shut up. I'm not out 398 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.119 there saying your wife is boring and a loser because 399 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:40.400 she decided not to get a job. 400 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:41.359 I don't think that. 401 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:43.240