1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, we're on break and hope you're enjoying the 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,639 holidays too. But just in case you're missing your daily 3 00:00:04,679 --> 00:00:06,679 dose of The Chicks, we have something special for you. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,679 Speaker 2: We hope you enjoy this replay of one of our 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,960 favorite interviews and make sure to tune in this year 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,199 from some exciting new ones that we have coming up. 7 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:16,600 Welcome to another deep dive edition of The Chicks on 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,120 the Right Podcast. Man, are we ever excited about our guests? 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 3: Today? 10 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: We have Megan Kelly with us, who have a course 11 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,199 is a journalist the host of The Megan Kelly Show, 12 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:30,000 which is available on Serious XEM Triumph Channel one eleven 13 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:33,320 every weekday at noon Eastern and also can be found 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,520 at YouTube dot com, slash Megan Kelly, or just wherever 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,640 you get your podcasts. 16 00:00:37,719 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: But honestly, you barely. 17 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,799 Speaker 2: Need introduction because I think most everybody knows who you are. 18 00:00:42,799 --> 00:00:46,359 They've been following your career for a long time. So 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,880 we thought we would kick it off by asking if 20 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,560 you could tell us something about you that most people 21 00:00:52,759 --> 00:00:53,200 don't know. 22 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:59,039 Speaker 4: Hmmm. I mean, I'm an aspiring guitar player. I highly 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:04,439 tar that John Rich actually gave me about fifteen years ago. 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,239 And it actually has my name and mother of pearl 25 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,480 along the neck of it, and on the case it 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,040 reads practice, which was his only message to me. And 27 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,959 I have failed to do because fifteen years later I 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,640 am just as bad as I was all those years ago. 29 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,359 And again, Oh my goodness, Hope springs a journal. That's fantastic. 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: So did you play any other instruments, like as a 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:23,799 kid or anything. 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, I was a mean clarinet player. I was 33 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:28,480 first chair. I'll have you know, first chair. 34 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: Get that. 35 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: It is awesome, fantastic, Probably not a little not a 36 00:01:35,359 --> 00:01:36,200 lot of people knew that. 37 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,159 Speaker 3: So that was a good one. 38 00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: That was very good. 39 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: Thank you for making me disclose it. 40 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see that coming at all. As you know, 41 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,719 I am a chronic insomniac. 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So encourage everybody. 63 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,879 Speaker 3: And it's cherry flavored, cherry flavored. 64 00:02:48,439 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: All you need to do is go to healthy sell 65 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,840 dot com slash chicks and when you use code chicks 66 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,199 you get twenty percent off your first order. 67 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,439 Speaker 3: Try it, try or try one of their other products. 68 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all amazing, all of them. 69 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: So yes, So on the musical veins, since we're talking 70 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,719 about music, we could probably talk about Taylor Swift and 71 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:08,560 all the as Mock would say, ullabaloo that's surrounding her. 72 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:11,120 So what do you make of all the right wing 73 00:03:11,199 --> 00:03:14,919 conspiracy stuff that's floating around right now about her and 74 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,439 Travis and the syop I mean, all they gets crazy. 75 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: I mean, there are certain corners of the right that 76 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,759 have lost their minds on the conspiracy stuff, and I'd 77 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,400 love for them just come back in the fold, like, 78 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,080 just please. We can't afford to lose anybody. We don't 79 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,639 have enough numbers to begin with. There's four Democrats and 80 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,560 there are Republicans, and half the Republicans have now become independent, 81 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:39,360 So like, we can't lose the right flank to weird 82 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,960 conspiratorial thinking about Taylor Swift. So come home, come back, 83 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,919 come back, like they've been untethered. There's no plan between 84 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,759 the NFL and the refs and the Chiefs and the 85 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,919 forty nine ers and Taylor and Travis and Joe Biden 86 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:56,560 to give him the election? What about? 87 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:57,719 Speaker 3: What about? 88 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: People really do believe this and they're convinced that there's 89 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:04,439 like I mean, there's like number theories and the people 90 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:08,039 that are convinced of it are surprising me. Like the vake, 91 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,000 like pick this up, and some of the more popular 92 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,280 conservative influencers that are just determined to make this a 93 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,560 thing is just blowing my mind. 94 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's some cynicism there. I think 95 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:20,600 some people who are pushing it just want clicks. I mean, 96 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,120 on Twitter now on x you get money for the 97 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,519 more engagement you get. So it's fine to say outrageous 98 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:28,160 things because the whole name of the game is getting 99 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:31,439 clicks and getting likes and getting it retweeted. So that's 100 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:33,399 I mean, there are some cynical people doing that. The 101 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,480 veg I wasn't that surprised he's conspiratorial. I like the bank, 102 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,519 but he's definitely gone conspiratorial since he threw his hat 103 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,600 in the national politics. So like, if you're going to 104 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:44,120 suggest nine to eleven was an inside job, this is 105 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:47,079 right up your alley. Yeah, you know. It's like if 106 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:49,120 you believe in pizzagate, which is a very big thing 107 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,560 in the Q community, you easily buy this. I get it. 108 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:54,800 I'm not with you at all, but I understand it's 109 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,959 all the same cast of characters. I will say, Look, 110 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,560 like any of these great conspiracy theories, there are some 111 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:04,519 nuggets that make sense. Like we were watching the game 112 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,720 last week when the Chiefs won, and my husband, who's 113 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:09,759 as far away from a conspiracy theorist as you can get, 114 00:05:09,879 --> 00:05:11,639 was like, these reps are totally putting a thumb on 115 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,959 the scale for Kansas City. They want the NFL wants 116 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:18,360 Kansas City to go to the super Bowl because money, 117 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,040 because of totally Yeah, because Taylor like going and you 118 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:24,759 saw the numbers like she boosted the final viewership. 119 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:27,639 Speaker 1: Or under thirty million. Yeah, yeah, that makes. 120 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: Perfect sense to me that like the NFL would really 121 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:32,720 be wishing for this to happen. But yeah, the connection 122 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,959 to the yeah, just stop. She's going to endorse Joe Biden. 123 00:05:37,079 --> 00:05:39,720 She's going to vote Democrat. She's going to tell all 124 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,279 of her little followers to get registered and to vote Democrat. 125 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:45,920 Maybe they'll get registered like thirty five thousand did after 126 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,920 that concert where she said it, and then they're probably 127 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,800 not going to vote. I've been doing this long enough 128 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,959 to know how this goes. They don't vote. Young people 129 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:52,560 don't vote. 130 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: I love that optimism. Yeah, because I mean that that 131 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:58,079 poll that came up, what was it, like Redfield and 132 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:01,680 Wilton strategies or something. I don't even know, but I 133 00:06:02,399 --> 00:06:05,040 look at that and I think, Okay, eighteen percent of 134 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,000 eligible voters are gonna vote or at least be skewed 135 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,240 by who she votes. I don't. I don't really buy 136 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,399 that either, because I have young people in my life 137 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:16,319 who are of that age that can vote and that 138 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,680 like her, but don't give a crap who she votes for. 139 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:21,160 So I'm not buying it either. 140 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: Megan, and you guys have been around long enough to 141 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,920 see all these election cycles. Every celebrity is a Democrat, 142 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:29,720 like right, who the f have you know? Like the 143 00:06:29,959 --> 00:06:33,959 John d Rock like okay that like those guys, but 144 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:38,079 like the Republicans have always been up against this. Right, 145 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:41,439 they don't win elections based on celebrity endorsements or they 146 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,399 would never have one ever. So I just I'm not 147 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:48,600 worried about this, And who cares. Like Taylor Swift, She's fine. 148 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:50,399 It's it's a little much for me too, like seeing 149 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:53,519 her the in the in the booth every game, It's 150 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,279 like enough enough. But yes, you know, we have go 151 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,680 through cycles with these celebrities. She'll come back down that 152 00:06:58,759 --> 00:07:00,160 she'll go back like people need to really. 153 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: You think, Okay, I don't know, man, She's been I mean, 154 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,600 she is, her star is way up there right now, 155 00:07:07,639 --> 00:07:10,000 and of course I just look at them like it's 156 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,480 a fun love story. And you know, the people that 157 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,000 actually think this is a made up, fake relationship, I'm 158 00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:19,079 just like, what, isn't it just possible that the simplest 159 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:23,279 explanation is the truth that they just genuinely are in 160 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,720 love and it's a new, happy couple And maybe she'll 161 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,639 write a breakup song about him at some point, but 162 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:29,800 right now everything seems okay. 163 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: I don't know, I have no idea what the basis 164 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:35,079 of that relationship is, but I do know for sure 165 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,040 Hollywood couples get together for PR. I mean I know 166 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,639 that just from having been connected to that industry for 167 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,920 a long time. They some of them do get together 168 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,160 just to get on magazines and get good PR. I 169 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:49,160 don't have any reason to believe that's what's happening here. 170 00:07:49,199 --> 00:07:52,639 But look, if I had to put money on it, 171 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,560 I would say he's in more danger than she is 172 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,839 of getting dumped, and she's going to write a song 173 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:03,639 about it, and it's probably not going to wind up 174 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:06,079 happily ever after. For those trees not a good track record. 175 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,079 Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. Yeah, she's such an so hopeful. 176 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:13,639 You are the god. She loves Valentine's Day so much, Magan, 177 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,720 you're the one. She's the one one. 178 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:18,519 Speaker 4: Yes, Valentine's Day. 179 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:20,319 Speaker 1: She's the one. I go on, I love it, I 180 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:22,600 love it Valentine's Day. I wear all black. Yes, she's 181 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:23,079 the one. 182 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't do in my marriage, we don't do 183 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:29,199 Valentine's Day. Like, there's nothing. I'm not explaining that, nor 184 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:30,800 do I want you know that we may have some 185 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:32,240 Valentine's Day action, but. 186 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, yes, it's an excuse. 187 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,159 Speaker 3: You're still recognizing it. 188 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: Then you're still recognizing it as Valentine's Day actions, celebrations, 189 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:48,039 and that's a way to celebrate. I think, yeah, all right, 190 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,879 well enough Taylor, because I know for a lot of 191 00:08:49,879 --> 00:08:53,039 people are just sick to death of yes about her. 192 00:08:53,799 --> 00:08:54,519 Speaker 3: So we'll move on. 193 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: And not that anybody is more interested in talking about 194 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,759 eg and Carroll, but she's obviously another huge story that's 195 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,600 taking hold of everybody right now. 196 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: Because of this ginormous. 197 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,159 Speaker 2: Judgment that Trump has had to pay her eighty three 198 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,919 point three plus million dollars as a result of the 199 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,759 defamation case. So in your legal opinion, because we've heard 200 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:20,919 lots of varying opinions about this. Does he have a 201 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,279 prayer for on appeal or is he Is he really 202 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:26,559 going to be on the hook for that money. 203 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: He has a small prayer, but it's not a great one. Really, 204 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,240 I'm not feeling great about it, you know. I think 205 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,600 his best line of argument is that he should have 206 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,879 been allowed to take the stand and deny the charges, 207 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,840 like speak robustly to the principal underlying charges and why 208 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:45,759 he said the thing that they now are supposed to 209 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:49,799 be punishing him for denying in a way that they 210 00:09:49,799 --> 00:09:52,720 said was defamatory. This judgement did not allow him to 211 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:54,960 get back into whether or not he sexually assaulted her. 212 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,360 He's like, well, we already decided that at the other trial, 213 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,720 and now you're stuck with it. But any McCarthy, who 214 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,759 I love if he writes for National Review, a brilliant lawyer. 215 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:04,559 He made a great point. I totally agree with it. 216 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,720 When you take away the ability of the jury to 217 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,759 have the fulfillment of saying you did the bad thing, 218 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,480 we're finding you liable for doing the terrible thing, and 219 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:19,200 just say to them, give us a dollar amount you're 220 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,320 going to get inflated judgments because they didn't express any 221 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,840 of their anger, any of the resentment they've built up 222 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,519 against this defendant during the trial with a verdict on liability, 223 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:33,200 it's kind of all been held for the dollar amount phased. 224 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,519 This wasn't even the same jury as before. So it's 225 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,600 like you handicapped him right from the get go in 226 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:43,159 getting a reasonable punitive damages award. I will say this ROBERTA. Kaplin, 227 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,799 who I really can't stand. But she's a good lawyer, 228 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:49,720 she says, and I believe her as an officer of 229 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,399 the court there representation that it's generally an assessing punitive 230 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,159 damages in this court. It's is it like more than 231 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,320 six to one? And this is not sick more six 232 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,200 to one? It's right on the cost of being too 233 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,600 high to be upheld. But you know how it is 234 00:11:05,759 --> 00:11:07,279 like the appellate courts aren't going to be any more 235 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:10,320 sympathetic to Trump than these lower courts were. So he's 236 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,639 got a chance, but it's not a good one. 237 00:11:12,039 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. 238 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,519 Speaker 2: So was that out of the norm in terms of 239 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,960 process then, because that's what I was confused about, because 240 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,799 I kept hearing well he was he was denied this 241 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,320 opportunity to get on the stand and talk about, you know, 242 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,360 the fact that he believes genuinely that she's a liar 243 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,919 and so, and he wanted to argue that. But then 244 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,080 I heard too that, well that's already been decided and 245 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:36,440 this is only about the dollar amount. So is that 246 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,960 not normal? Is that not how a trial like this 247 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,879 is supposed to go? And that's why bonus intention. 248 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,919 Speaker 4: Yes, I think this judge took a risk in shutting 249 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,799 down the discussion entirely. I think a defendant has a 250 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:51,600 right to get up there and say because look at 251 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,039 punitive damages are meant to stop him from ever seeing 252 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,000 the things again. Like the lawyer argued in her closing, ROBERTA. Kaplin, 253 00:11:58,159 --> 00:11:59,879 you've got to make him feel it. He's a rich man, 254 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,879 so it's got to be a huge dollar amount, so 255 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:03,799 he will never say these things about her again. You know, 256 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:05,840 she's a cook, she made it up, she's a lunatic. Whatever. 257 00:12:06,279 --> 00:12:08,799 So why can't I mean, if you're a judge, she 258 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,039 just doesn't want to get reversed. Why wouldn't you bend 259 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:13,240 over backwards to be fair to the defendant? What harm 260 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,960 is caused by him looking at the jury and saying, 261 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,799 I'll say it to you right here. There's the reason 262 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,279 I said those things that that other jury said were 263 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,919 defamatory or said amounted to sexual abuse, and word defamatory 264 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,120 is because I genuinely have never seen this person again. 265 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,840 She must be a kook to be suing me for 266 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:35,120 this stuff. I recognize another jury by fifty one percent 267 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,759 to forty nine percent that was the legal standard, and 268 00:12:37,799 --> 00:12:41,159 that earlier civil case didn't believe me. But I'm telling 269 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,120 you that is the reason I said what I said. 270 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:45,679 I think it could have softened them. And they tied 271 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,960 his hands behind his back to say, you basically can't 272 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,720 fight this case. They took away all of his weapons. 273 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,039 So I do think he had an uphill battle to 274 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:55,399 start with, and he didn't make it any better for 275 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,759 himself and not testifying in the underlying trial on his 276 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,240 liability and then he had double justices like against him, 277 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,720 and that's how we wound up here. 278 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,039 Speaker 1: But she's not making it any better on herself either. 279 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,960 I mean, you look at her, my goodness, like going 280 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,679 on Rachel mad We're going to go shopping ladies and 281 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,679 all that. I mean, just the stuff that she said, 282 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,399 like to Anderson Cooper and. 283 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: How she's cat tit Tits. 284 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Oh my Godaina, there's another one. 285 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: Maybe it's a dog, might be a cat. Maybe the 286 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:32,200 cat is it here, Vagina? That didn't makes sense. 287 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,399 Speaker 3: That is abuse. 288 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: That is like cat abuse. 289 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 4: I mean, it's very very hyper focused. 290 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: I was completely unaware that she had a cat named Tits. 291 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,600 I was until I was today years old when I 292 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,720 learned that from Megan Kelly. 293 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:48,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, a dog, I can't remember, but one of the two, 294 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,720 for sure. She bragged about it. We played a clip 295 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:53,519 she bragged about it. Wow, she's a very strange person. 296 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,360 And you know, you look at her celebratory like, haha, 297 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,120 I'm gonna buy you France Rachel made Survivor. 298 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:04,159 Speaker 1: Right. And this is the thing, I mean, it's we 299 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,240 I'm sure we all know people who have been raped 300 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,960 and and that. So I look at her and I 301 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,960 look at what was awarded to her and how she's acting, 302 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:15,919 and and it just and it makes it's disgusting. It 303 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,960 makes me sick, just the way else when. 304 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:21,159 Speaker 4: They argue for the punitive damages, that's the big that's 305 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,840 the big piece of this award. They said she needs 306 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,080 the money because she's got to go out there in 307 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,320 conservative media and rebuild her reputation that Trump destroyed by 308 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:38,600 all the how many how many conservative shows did she call? You? Girls? 309 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Saw her on? Exactly? It was a lie. It was 310 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,120 a lie. He lied to that jury through her lawyer. 311 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,320 The jury bought it, hook line and sinker, or just 312 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,759 wanted to punish Trump more than likely totally and the 313 00:14:55,799 --> 00:14:57,279 media won't hold her to account. 314 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: What do you make of his uh? 315 00:14:59,799 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: His? 316 00:15:00,159 --> 00:15:02,879 Speaker 2: I guess his lead council in that case, Elena Hobba, 317 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,919 because she gets a lot of she gets mixed reviews, 318 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,559 And I'm just wondering how you view her legal prowess. 319 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,440 I mean, is she serving him well or is there 320 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:13,519 more that she could just start? 321 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:16,399 Speaker 4: I do, I haven't been following it that closely, but 322 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:19,240 I'll be honest, I haven't been impressed. Have not No, Yeah, 323 00:15:19,639 --> 00:15:21,639 that's the truth. And then quick about her, where they 324 00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:23,519 were asked would you rather be pretty or smart? She 325 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:26,159 said pretty? Like? All right, Well you should. 326 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: Mean she's not you are not winning if you wouldn't 327 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,360 answer that, yeah, And she's her record, I mean, she's 328 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,879 not winning very much winning. 329 00:15:32,919 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: She's probably gonna get dumped soon because Trump dumps the 330 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,960 ones who don't win. For him. Yeah, like that one 331 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:42,320 precinct commander in Iowa, the one county that he lost. 332 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,360 He won ninety eight out of the ninety nine counties, 333 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:47,960 and he fired the one who he lost by one vote. 334 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,159 And that person got fired and no longer needed. And 335 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,879 you know, we have a general election to go, but 336 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,159 that person. Look, I don't blame him. I would fire 337 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,720 somebody who lost for me twice too. 338 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 339 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: I haven't been impressed by her, but in fairness, I 340 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,639 haven't been watching her that closely. 341 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:02,399 Speaker 1: I mean, eighty three million dollars. I'd probably fire the 342 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,639 person too. 343 00:16:05,879 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: There's no way in the world that you remember this, 344 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:12,120 which is completely fine, But way back in the day 345 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,080 probably I want to say, at least ten years ago, 346 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,320 when we were doing radio, we had you on our 347 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,679 show and we were brand spanking new to radio, and 348 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:23,120 it was right after I think it was right after 349 00:16:23,159 --> 00:16:24,679 you'd written a book, and so we had you on 350 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,720 to talk about your book. 351 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: And there was. 352 00:16:27,679 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: Some controversy happening at the time with Matt Walsh, and 353 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:32,679 I know you had a beef with him recently on 354 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,120 Twitter about then. 355 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: There was a controversy. 356 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:39,799 Speaker 2: Yes, there was controversy because he's always been the same 357 00:16:40,039 --> 00:16:43,639 guy when it comes to women have their place and 358 00:16:43,679 --> 00:16:45,440 that needs to be at home, and they shouldn't have 359 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,120 careers and all that stuff. So and it was about that, 360 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:50,320 and we talked to you about that, and you said 361 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,120 something that has never left my brain, and I loved 362 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,759 how you said it, and I refer back to it 363 00:16:55,799 --> 00:16:59,039 all the time because I struggled with his arguments. 364 00:16:59,120 --> 00:16:59,919 Speaker 3: He's very personal. 365 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: He's an excellent writer, as I'm sure you know, and 366 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,319 his criticisms were like getting to me. And I remember 367 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,319 that I asked you about it in that show and 368 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:15,200 you said, I just know that having a career and family, 369 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,559 having that career makes me the best version of myself 370 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,000 for my family. And I was like, that is the 371 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,799 perfect way to describe how we think. I think, how 372 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:30,440 we feel about our own careers. It just really resonated 373 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,359 with me. And so when I saw you guys kind 374 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,359 of beefing about a month ago or three weeks ago 375 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,279 or whatever about the similar issue, we had to. 376 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: Bring it up. 377 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: We had to bring it up with you again and 378 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,119 see how that all got resolved and all that. 379 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,799 Speaker 4: You know, Matt. I love Matt. I love what he's 380 00:17:44,839 --> 00:17:47,240 doing on the gender ideology and pushing back. And I 381 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:49,680 loved what is a Woman? But I couldn't disagree with 382 00:17:49,759 --> 00:17:52,279 him more on virtually everything he says about actual women. 383 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,720 I'm with him on the trans women. I don't think 384 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,599 he understands us at all when it comes to actual women. 385 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:01,880 And again, having said that I like the guy, I'm 386 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,599 getting a little tired of his NonStop judgment of women 387 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,000 who make different choices than the ones he wants us 388 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,480 to make. Sorry, Matt, you're not our Jesus. We don't 389 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:14,680 answer to you. You like fucking live Sorry, live your 390 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,599 life the way you want to live it, and stop 391 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,000 judging everybody who makes a different choice. I'm sick of it. 392 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,400 Like I and I know you gals, you don't generally women. 393 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:25,960 We're not judging moms who choose to stay at home 394 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,799 and raise their kids. That's a choice we celebrate, we love. 395 00:18:28,839 --> 00:18:30,880 Those are our sisters and our friends and our moms. 396 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,240 Women aren't doing this to other women. For the most part. 397 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:36,960 It's guys like Matt, Like, shut up. I'm not out 398 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,119 there saying your wife is boring and a loser because 399 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,400 she decided not to get a job. 400 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: I don't think that. 401 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: I think it's awesome. She's the mother of six children. 402 00:18:43,279 --> 00:18:45,880 She must be incredibly busy. But why are you looking 403 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,920 at every woman who works and trying to pass judgment 404 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,880 and make her feel guilty about our choices all the time? 405 00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:53,200 He fail, We don't feel guilty because of you. But 406 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,000 I'm just getting tired of his random posts about how 407 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,960 the one woman who said, oh, I'm confessing that I 408 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,119 really liked it when the guy I dated wanted to 409 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,079 pay for the meal and he's like, no, you can't 410 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,599 have that unless you play the traditionally feminine role. Who 411 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,599 died and maybe you boss of all women? What are 412 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,599 you saying? I don't know why he feels the need 413 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,000 to try to set fake guardrails around our behavior. It's 414 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:22,319 a no, Matt, we don't need you. 415 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,559 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Although we have seen though, there are a 416 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:30,480 lot of these conservative pundits, younger ones, the younger women 417 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:35,240 who are kind of taking that discourse and running with 418 00:19:35,279 --> 00:19:38,279 it and saying, hey, say no to the high powered careers. 419 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,079 Ladies like say no to that and do something else. 420 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,440 Be at home, stay at home, Like that's that's more 421 00:19:44,519 --> 00:19:47,279 admirable than having these high powered careers. We're seeing a 422 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:49,279 lot more of that from the younger women and that, 423 00:19:49,599 --> 00:19:51,759 and we did a podcast on that, like a deep 424 00:19:51,799 --> 00:19:53,519 dive a couple of weeks ago. I think it was 425 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:57,039 Mary about the tradwives, about like trad wives, and that 426 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,480 just kind of the whole phenomenon, Like it's a trend 427 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,519 really with the more of the younger conservative pundits talking 428 00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:05,200 about this, and we were like, Okay, this is a 429 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,720 little bit weird. We got a lot of backlash for 430 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:09,720 talking about it in a way where we're like, listen, 431 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,519 staying at home is great, but we love working and 432 00:20:13,559 --> 00:20:15,559 we don't want to be demonized for working, Like what 433 00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:18,039 is that all about? Why is that happening? And we 434 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,640 are seeing sort of a trend there, like what do 435 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,240 you think about that trend? With some of the concert. 436 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: It's an over correction, I think, in the same way 437 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,920 we've gone from the nonsensical believe all women, the Republican 438 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,440 Party in part has gone to believe no women. It's 439 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,160 the same thing where we were like the society was 440 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,799 all like, you go be empowered, stayed home moms are losers, 441 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,440 and now we've over corrected to working moms are terrible. Yeah, right, 442 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,839 and we've overcorrect Why can't there be nuanced conversations. It's 443 00:20:47,839 --> 00:20:51,960 obsess you know, I've said this publicly, but when I 444 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,960 was working at Fox News in the primetime and I 445 00:20:54,039 --> 00:20:57,880 was making many many dollars in that position, and I 446 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,319 had a lot of power in the end of street, 447 00:21:01,079 --> 00:21:03,240 and I was thinking about leaving, I didn't, you know. 448 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,519 I wound up going to NBC, which, as everybody knows, 449 00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:08,240 was a disaster. But the point was to get out 450 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,400 of that position. That was the point, Like find an 451 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,240 off ramp that'll let me do my job but still 452 00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:16,079 mother my own children. That was my biggest motivating factor. 453 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,680 So I will confess working at that level was not 454 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:23,440 good for me. That did not work. I was not 455 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,920 raising my own kids, and I was missing too much 456 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,440 of it. And just quickly I said to my therapist 457 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,079 at the time, you know, I'm I'm so unhappy, and 458 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,079 he said, you know, all the studies show that the 459 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,000 children of working moms turn out just fine. And he said, 460 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,680 he's a Democrat, but he goes, look at Chelsea Clinton. 461 00:21:40,039 --> 00:21:42,759 He goes, you know, both of her parents were never around. 462 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:45,720 I can't stand Chelsea Clinton. So it's a bad example. 463 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,160 I really can't stand to her. But I remember what 464 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,839 I said to him in response was I'm not worried 465 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,200 they're not going to turn out. Well, I'm worried I'm 466 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,720 missing all of that. I don't want to miss it all. 467 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,279 I won't be happy with that. Yeah, So that's why 468 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:04,160 I left and down shifted right to a show where 469 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,599 I'd have far less power, a little less money, and 470 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,359 you know, wouldn't be as well respected, not seeing what 471 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,359 would happen thereafter. But in an event, so I do 472 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,119 want to say I see what they're tapping into. You know, 473 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:21,799 like if you sacrifice the joys of motherhood and raising 474 00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:25,599 a family entirely in favor of the vaunted career, you 475 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,480 may have some regrets. And I've said this to women before, 476 00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:30,279 like if you got that little voice in the back 477 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:31,839 of your head telling you, like it was telling me, 478 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,920 you're missing too much of it, Listen, listen. It's like 479 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,920 that's you, that's you, you know, speaking saying my God. 480 00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:42,839 You know, you don't have to do what the feminists 481 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,200 of all told you you must do in order to matter. 482 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:47,319 You know, you can listen to the voice inside of 483 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,960 you and say I want a different choice. But I 484 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:53,400 also think that like these women who are pushing back 485 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,960 against it, are over correcting to you don't have to 486 00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:59,240 shame the women who have made a different choice. Who 487 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,599 would be full time stay at home moms? Yeah, for 488 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:05,759 doing the thing that lights them on fire? Yeah right 489 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,359 like yeah, because the version of them, as I said, 490 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,960 who would come home to those children if they only 491 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,839 worked an hour day, or who would be home with 492 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,960 them if they worked no hours of the day might 493 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,880 be a terrible person, might be full of anxiety or 494 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:21,880 an OCD complex that they didn't get to work out, whatever. 495 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:25,680 And so we shouldn't be judging each other. Everyone's going 496 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,759 to make the choice that's right for them. And one 497 00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:30,440 other thing I will say this, I said to my 498 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,240 daughter's school. She's ad a very competitive, great all girls school. 499 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,640 I said, here's something you can do for the girls 500 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,599 on career night. Bring in a stay at home mom, 501 00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:44,319 Like make sure the girls don't just hear from women 502 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,519 who graduated from Harvard who went on to write for 503 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:50,240 Vanity Fair. Bring in women who went to C list 504 00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:53,119 colleges who landed up in great careers that are really 505 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,599 happy with So these girls don't think they have to 506 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,279 kill themselves in high school right ruin their whole teenage 507 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,400 years and are to get into some university that she's 508 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,920 going to make them hate parents in their country. And 509 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:04,759 you're going to stay at home mom, who says, hey, 510 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:07,359 here's another lane. You know, it's a different choice I made, 511 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,000 and it's awesome. 512 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: This is why I love it. 513 00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:12,319 Speaker 4: Or even I said this to her, even I stay 514 00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:13,480 at home wife. 515 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, kids, can you imagine? 516 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:17,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? 517 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: Yes, do it right? It's like anyway, I hate the judge. 518 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:22,480 There's too much judginus around this issue. 519 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that, Like it's coming from young women 520 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,400 without kids. 521 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: So it's these light I know exactly who you're talking. 522 00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:34,039 Speaker 2: About, Daisy, because there's these there's these young influencers who 523 00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:37,359 just have decided they're going to start interviewing people about 524 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,559 this topic, and they themselves have no kids, and they're 525 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,759 they're pushing these judgments, like you said, on working moms, 526 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,200 and it's so it's infuriating. 527 00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't know what they're talking about it. I mean, 528 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,359 I can only speak for myself on the actual personal experience, 529 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,079 but I will tell you I come home from work 530 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,880 any day. I mean the entire time I've been married 531 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,519 to Doug and we're going on sixteen years in a 532 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:03,920 week or two, and it's exciting we sit down at 533 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,160 the dinner table or we have a drink together. I've 534 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,480 got so much to tell him. So much happens in 535 00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,759 my day, like the funny interviews that I do. You know, 536 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:13,599 we'll talk about this tonight, or some crazy guests that happened, 537 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,400 or some weird ass story in the news, or it's 538 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,119 just some interaction that I have with somebody because I 539 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,559 put myself out there in a world, in the world 540 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,720 in a way in which I wouldn't if I didn't 541 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:27,160 have a job, and in my relationship that turns my 542 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,839 husband on. He loves it. It's sexy. He likes somebody 543 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,960 who is that intellectually engaged all day. My husband needs 544 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,039 that in a woman. Yeah, and I frankly need that 545 00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,599 in a man. That's not true for everybody, right, Like 546 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,839 other men just want somebody's going to take care of 547 00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:45,920 them and that turns them up. I get it. But 548 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:51,160 Matt Walsh writes about men like they're all a Matt Walsh, right. 549 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:55,759 It's offensive to those of us who know there is 550 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:58,000 a different reality for millions of people out there. 551 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: So true, yeah, exactly right. I've said is exactly right, Yes, yes, 552 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:03,680 all right. 553 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: So to wrap things up because we want to make 554 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,480 sure that we're keeping you on your schedule. 555 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: What what do you think is going to happen with 556 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,440 the selection? 557 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,279 Speaker 2: I know that's still a long ways away, but do 558 00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:17,279 you think Trump actually has a shot? Because I'm very 559 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:20,599 pessimistic when it comes to I was a desantist girl, 560 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,000 so I mean, he was my guy. I knew he 561 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,079 was going to get out. I mean, everything was looking 562 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,359 so bad for him towards the end. But I also 563 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,119 look at him still and think, what a missed opportunity 564 00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:38,079 for a solid, normal leader that we've just lost. 565 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: And I feel like and I feel like they're going 566 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:43,599 to put somebody else in at the last minute. On 567 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,960 the other side, I feel like it's going to be 568 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,759 either Gavin or Michelle Obama and it's not going to 569 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:49,559 be Biden, and I feel like that's going to make 570 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,319 us lose. That's my opigon. 571 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 4: If it's Michelle Obama the Democratic. 572 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: Do you think that will happen? Do you think that 573 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,279 that's an or do you think that's another conspiracy theory 574 00:26:59,279 --> 00:26:59,839 that I've just done? 575 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: Like the conspiracy theory, I mean, there has been reporting 576 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,400 that that the Obamas are out there polling top Democrats 577 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,880 on what their appetite is for it, So you know, 578 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:10,000 I don't think it's a CONSPUC theory. 579 00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:12,079 Speaker 1: But no, it's going to be. 580 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,319 Speaker 4: Very hard to make Grandpa leave the pudden, you know, 581 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,319 and he's enjoying it. 582 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: What do you do with her? 583 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,559 Speaker 4: She's going to get sidelined. Nobody's rooting for her. She's 584 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,519 got how do you get sorry, Honestly, there's a position 585 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:26,200 open at Harvard. They could probably over there. 586 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: That's what they're going to do. Honestly, that's what they 587 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:28,559 have to do. 588 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 4: They're all saying it has to be a black woman. Oh, 589 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,880 I've got just the one right exactly, if I had 590 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,759 to put money on it now, and I have to say, like, 591 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:40,680 it's very tight, And all the polsters I respect are 592 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,400 saying it's very tight right now, and you know it's 593 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,319 very tight. Trump's eating another state. 594 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:47,519 Speaker 3: I mean, like losing out. 595 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 4: That's why the Democrats who think, like, oh, please God 596 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,119 give me Donald Trump. I don't think they're paying attention. 597 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,400 Trump's winning in all of the seven swing states right now, 598 00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:59,359 all seven of them. He's got some problems, for sure. 599 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,519 You know that the independence really will drive the election. 600 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,680 The Republicans will come home for Trump. I have no 601 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,839 doubt he's got to win ninety percent of them. They're 602 00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:12,880 mad now. They liked him far less in sixteen and 603 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,400 they came home now they're label Trump presidency behind them, 604 00:28:16,519 --> 00:28:18,960 and even though he wasn't their candidate of choice, they're 605 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:21,559 going to vote for Donald Trump. It's the independence he's 606 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:22,039 got to get. 607 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: Rfkd to that equation that I was just going to say, 608 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,519 rfk's a wild card. 609 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 4: I think RFK pulls more from Biden. That's my belief 610 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,880 that big Yeah. I do, because I think there are 611 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,599 many Democrats who are very pissed off about what happened 612 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,279 during COVID who can't vote for Donald Trump. And by 613 00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:41,079 the way, he's partially to blame for COVID, but they 614 00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,119 would like to penalize Joe Biden. I know a lot 615 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,279 of these people, and I just think we're interesting. If 616 00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:49,920 we get closer to November and RFK is still pulling 617 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,039 the numbers he is, and the internals at Team Trump 618 00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,720 show he's pulling from Trump, they're going to go gihot 619 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:59,319 on him with his actual liberal positions. RFKJ is a Democrat. 620 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,960 I like him. I've interviewed him many times, but he 621 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,880 is a Democrat. I mean, look at his positions on abortion, 622 00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:08,599 on the environment, on the LGBTQ stuff, especially the t stuff. 623 00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,880 They could sink him with Republicans if they just unleashed 624 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,119 their fury, and the fact that they haven't suggested to 625 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,799 me they see what I see, which is he's probably 626 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:20,799 gonna hurt Biden more than he hurts Trump, or where 627 00:29:20,839 --> 00:29:23,359 he hurts Trump won't matter anyway. If I had about 628 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:24,920 money down, I'd put it on Trump right now. But 629 00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,400 that Democrat vote machine and the mail in ballots and 630 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,079 all that, that scares me. 631 00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I love the optimism because we 632 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,200 got to turn this country around. 633 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:40,559 Speaker 4: Good lord, four more years of this, I mean truly. 634 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,519 Just the open borders, yep. 635 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:47,119 Speaker 1: I know. I'm in Texas. It's crazy for our kids. 636 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,039 Speaker 4: Our kids are going to have to grow up with 637 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,319 these millions of foreigners here. We have no idea what 638 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,160 their motivations are and taking our social services and our schools, 639 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,160 and they don't love America for the most part. And 640 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,480 they are drug dealers and fentanyl and all the rest 641 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,359 of it. And we're just like, oh, you saw the 642 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,759 new York Times running cover for Joe Biden today that 643 00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:10,440 he wanted a more humane the world, more humane to whom, 644 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,640 not to not to your kids in mind, right, exactly. Yeah, 645 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,039 So it really it is a make or break moment 646 00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:17,599 for the country. 647 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:19,319 Speaker 1: It is. It is. And if you look at video 648 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,559 of him from you know, twenty thirty years ago, he 649 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:24,279 said the complete opposite. I mean, he was he was 650 00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:26,279 harder when it came to I say he was harder, 651 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,440 but he was definitely more strict when it came to 652 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,480 the border. So he's definitely he has no idea what 653 00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:33,680 he's saying at this point. He's not even pulling the 654 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,240 strings this point. It's terrifying. 655 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's the one thing I'll say, Like, I know, 656 00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:41,680 Trump's got four criminal trials. I actually no longer convinced 657 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,240 that any of them is going to go off before 658 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,920 election date. They're all getting postponed. That's very good for Trump, 659 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:48,839 very good because if he becomes president again, he can 660 00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:51,079 pull Jack Smith off of the two federal prosecutions and 661 00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,319 those go away. The one in Georgie's Imploding Things to 662 00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:57,079 Fanny Willison are alleged all of our ethical behavior and 663 00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:58,960 the New York one is a nothing burger. Anyway, He's 664 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000 not facing jail time there. So it could be that 665 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:02,960 Trump pulls the inside straight and gets rid of all 666 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,039 these But so it could be that Trump has a 667 00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:07,680 bad year of press. But I think it's looking better 668 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,559 for him. But the thing over on the demp side is, 669 00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:14,200 to your point, Biden could fall, I mean one fall 670 00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:16,319 and the Democrats chances. 671 00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:19,079 Speaker 1: Yeah that, Oh my gosh. 672 00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: I hope it's Biden, though I want it to be 673 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,680 Biden because I worry that if it's anybody else that 674 00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:26,079 our chances tank. 675 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,119 Speaker 1: If it's a gap at Michelle Obama, then we're screwed. 676 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,559 Speaker 3: And wishing him all. 677 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,799 Speaker 4: The best of Well, I don't know. 678 00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: About gross, right, he's just so Megan. 679 00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: Actually, I talked to it. 680 00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: I did a speech at some thing at Baylor here 681 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:44,119 a couple of months ago, and there is a conservative 682 00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,359 young lady who is I'm imprecious, and she goes that 683 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,000 Gavin is just so hot. Oh my god, I mean 684 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:59,000 I almost vomited. It was just I think Trump's hot. No, No, 685 00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:03,000 Trump is like daddy to those. I think he's daddy 686 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,119 to a lot of the college. 687 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 4: Wait, do you know that that's a thing so my 688 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,920 friend was a diehard Trumper, I mean, like true, true Trumper. 689 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,160 And she said she was like going to the rallies 690 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,039 and all that, and she said they call him dad Daddy. 691 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, d oh my god, I love it. Weird. Yeah, 692 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:16,839 that's weird. 693 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: That's a little that's a little weird. 694 00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:22,559 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, get anywhere, Yes, I know. 695 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today. We always 696 00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:28,119 enjoy talking to you. Can't wait to do it again. 697 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,279 Speaker 3: Thanks for watching. 698 00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:31,279 Speaker 2: We'll be back in January sixth, so make sure to 699 00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:33,519 tune in and bring a friend, Follow. 700 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,079 Speaker 1: Us and subscribe on YouTube, i Chance, Spotify, or wherever 701 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,759 you get your podcasts. Link in bio