Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to a Memorial Day nightcap on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW Gary Jeff Walker. Words are cheap, and
Speaker 1: the cheap words we use or choose to try and
Speaker 1: do justice, to try and honor those who've given the
Speaker 1: ultimate sacrifice for us can never do them justice. It
Speaker 1: can't bring them back, and it can't really really give
Speaker 1: tribute to their loss and their sacrifice. But I want
Speaker 1: to think a little bit about happy Memorial Day, and
Speaker 1: people toss around all the time, and I would think
Speaker 1: that some people who have served our country and taken
Speaker 1: the oath and upheld it might take umbrage with the
Speaker 1: term happy Memorial Day when they think about their fallen
Speaker 1: colleagues who gave their all. Maybe we should say grateful
Speaker 1: Memorial Day because I am grateful, and I am grateful
Speaker 1: because that that sacrifice has meant a lifetime of the
Speaker 1: ability to live the life I chose the chance to
Speaker 1: talk to you, to do this career I wanted to
Speaker 1: do from the time I was seven years old. A
Speaker 1: chance to enjoy my family, a chance to enjoy marriage,
Speaker 1: a chance to have this career. It's a grateful Memorial
Speaker 1: Day to me, and even my gratitude will never be enough.
Speaker 1: And for those family members who have lost those in
Speaker 1: war in combat for the United States of America, they
Speaker 1: also are grateful for their service, and they know more
Speaker 1: than me or most people how great that sacrifice really
Speaker 1: is and was. And you could say that maybe I
Speaker 1: have some survivor's guilt because I never paid that price
Speaker 1: that they did, and maybe I do say I'm lucky,
Speaker 1: but I even think of that, and I go luck
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with it. It is because of
Speaker 1: their deeds, and my words will never measure up to
Speaker 1: their deeds. With that in mind, we have some thoughts
Speaker 1: on Memorial Day, which my friend Peter Bronson will share
Speaker 1: with us tonight, and some of the things that we
Speaker 1: get to enjoy because of their sacrifice, like great music
Speaker 1: and the chance to travel this remarkable country that's remarkable
Speaker 1: for no other reason than that sacrifice. And we will
Speaker 1: do all of that tonight on this nightcap, and maybe
Speaker 1: a little fun time with Furman before we're done. With
Speaker 1: that being said, let's get on with the show up
Speaker 1: next to Travelogue, because this last Monday in May is
Speaker 1: not only Memorial Day, but for many it marks the
Speaker 1: beginning of the summer travel season. Are there some interesting
Speaker 1: places you might want to go. My friend Flash Phelps
Speaker 1: will join us in just a moment. He's been to
Speaker 1: all fifty states, most of them except for Hawaii by car,
Speaker 1: because you still can't do that by car get to
Speaker 1: a way that is. But anyway, that summer travelogue begins
Speaker 1: our nightcap next on seven hundred w LW. So if
Speaker 1: there's some place cool to talk about, Flash can probably
Speaker 1: authoritatively tell you where you should go. That's what what
Speaker 1: we got. We got Flash on to tell you where
Speaker 1: to go. Flash Phelps, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: You good?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's fantastic. You know what a Memorial Day weekend?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: I have a trivia question for you. Memorial Day Weekend
Speaker 3: M d W. They're the three letters of which airport
Speaker 3: m that's a great question, md w.
Speaker 5: W Memorial Day Weekend m MEW.
Speaker 2: Three letter code. Somebody's probably flying through there right now.
Speaker 2: It's a big one. It's it's next to O R D.
Speaker 2: Oh here it's midway in Chicago. Yes, that's it.
Speaker 3: How about that Memorial Day weekend about a week ago?
Speaker 3: And they're like, somebody wrote Memorial Day Weekend and they
Speaker 3: just wrote MDW And I went midway and then they
Speaker 3: were talking about Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 2: I said, I got to use that on the air
Speaker 2: a lot. That's food phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I don't know the designations, and I'm surprised you do,
Speaker 1: because most of your travel is on the ground in
Speaker 1: your car. You go everywhere, and and you've been everywhere seemingly.
Speaker 2: Now I want to ask.
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you, well before you say that,
Speaker 3: I did a trip just two weeks ago, and I
Speaker 3: drove twenty seven hundred miles and my Flashmobile got forty
Speaker 3: nine point five miles to the gallon in the first
Speaker 3: nine hundred miles. It's a it's all gas power. Because
Speaker 3: it's I don't want to say the name of the
Speaker 3: car I call a Flashmobile. I'll tell you what. It's
Speaker 3: a palindrome. Right now, we're on a palindrome date. You
Speaker 3: can write the date today forward and backwards. As you
Speaker 3: probably know, yes, and so it's it's a car that
Speaker 3: is a palindrome.
Speaker 5: Forward and backwards is the same name. So you probably
Speaker 5: know what it is.
Speaker 1: Well there you go, all right, So, but forty nine
Speaker 1: miles to the gallon, that's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2: Pretty amazed.
Speaker 3: And these and the tires that are on there almost
Speaker 3: have almost one hundred thousand miles on them.
Speaker 1: Where was that proported at eighty thousand? Do you remember
Speaker 1: where the cheapest gas was flash on your trip Tennessee?
Speaker 3: It's always Tennessee always gives me some pretty cheap gas.
Speaker 3: And so that's why I usually like driving the South.
Speaker 3: The South always gives me better deals than over three dollars.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it is. Part of it is
Speaker 1: is the taxes. I mean you, just as the states
Speaker 1: that have less state gasoline taxes, you're going to find
Speaker 1: cheaper gas low and behold, well, isn't that a surprise?
Speaker 1: And my parents are still alive. God bless them, and
Speaker 1: God bless me for still. I'm so grateful. They live
Speaker 1: in Hendersonville, Tennessee, which is just outside of Nashville. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're familiar where Hendersonville is. Sure up on the side, yeah,
Speaker 1: uh and uh. When we drive from here in the
Speaker 1: tri state area of Ohio and northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2: And seventy five seventy one to sixty five, we.
Speaker 1: Yep seventy five seventy one to sixty five and go south,
Speaker 1: go straight through Louisville. Used to go the Gene Freighter
Speaker 1: of Jean Jean Snyder Parkway.
Speaker 2: But a lot of times they want you to take
Speaker 2: the water the Watertown Waterson, Waterson Express, Waterson. That's the one.
Speaker 1: But but I'm telling you what driving driving straight through
Speaker 1: Louisville is actually closer. It's it's a lot cheaper and
Speaker 1: there's not as many You drive an extra twenty minutes
Speaker 1: on the Gene Snyder to get down to sixty five. Anyway,
Speaker 1: when we go there, gases always, no matter what time
Speaker 1: of year, twenty to thirty cents cheaper a gallon in
Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee than it is up here.
Speaker 2: So I would agree.
Speaker 3: You have you stopped it one of the the disco
Speaker 3: bathrooms up there in northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Yet I did it, and my gosh, was that fun.
Speaker 2: It is so cool.
Speaker 3: So for if you're in the Cincinnati area in northern
Speaker 3: Kentucky that look up disco bathroom.
Speaker 5: You go in, you hit a button and says don't
Speaker 5: hit this button.
Speaker 3: You hit the button and all the lights go out
Speaker 3: and the disco ball starts spinning around the bathroom.
Speaker 2: It's in men and women.
Speaker 3: I heard it's in the women too, but it'll spin
Speaker 3: around and it'll do the whole disco and it'll start
Speaker 3: playing Beg's it's.
Speaker 2: So cool in your area. Have you been to BUCkies yet?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tried to go to, especially after I went.
Speaker 3: In Texas because I went to when I told the
Speaker 3: first one out right near Austin. So I had gone
Speaker 3: to that one. I said, Man, it should be putting
Speaker 3: these everywhere. So as soon as they built the one
Speaker 3: in Alabama, which are now four, and so I keep
Speaker 3: on going to all the ones that are out of
Speaker 3: the state. So whether or not it's south of U
Speaker 3: on I seventy five or the one on sixty five,
Speaker 3: is Smith's over there.
Speaker 1: Smith Grow Smith Smiths Grove. That's where that's where World
Speaker 1: WIF found. Can I stop on our trips homes to
Speaker 1: see Mom and Dad? We stop at the BUCkies now
Speaker 1: there at Smith exit thirty eight, and it was all.
Speaker 5: In Green Cave City, right in between the two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's Smith's Grove is right there on the
Speaker 1: way to Bowling Green and it is. It's the most
Speaker 1: amazing thing I've ever seen at a store gas stage,
Speaker 1: the way they move traffic and people in and out
Speaker 1: of those things.
Speaker 3: And the tip is don't go in the first entrance.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of times two entrances there should be.
Speaker 3: It's so big, and never pick the first and everybody
Speaker 3: wants to pull in the first. One tip for you
Speaker 3: when you're driving, there's going to be a second entrance.
Speaker 3: Go past those people. Look for the back way in.
Speaker 3: It always works.
Speaker 2: Now you live in the DC area or Virginia, is
Speaker 2: that right?
Speaker 3: I live in between Philadelphia and Baltimore.
Speaker 2: I'm in that here, Okay.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people in the summertime, and we're
Speaker 1: here in summer vacation season. That's that's why you're on
Speaker 1: the show to talk about some cool places to go
Speaker 1: in the summertime. A lot of people go north because
Speaker 1: the weather's nicer. I mean, it's if you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to like, if you're gonna go to Maine. For me,
Speaker 1: the only time to go would be summertime, wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 3: That is definitely a thing that I do is that
Speaker 3: if somebody will go out, well at the universe, it
Speaker 3: is just open back on Thursday. You going, I said, well, no,
Speaker 3: I'll wait till it gets colder to go to Florida.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to do as many things in the north.
Speaker 3: These things are open, especially now for Memorial Day as
Speaker 3: you get into the Labor Day, and then a lot
Speaker 3: of these places are up and beyond that as well.
Speaker 3: And in Maine they have the new National Monument, Francis Perkins,
Speaker 3: that has not even been open since it's become a
Speaker 3: National Park site.
Speaker 2: So I will head on up there.
Speaker 3: If you remember when Forrest Gump was running across the
Speaker 3: country and he said he runs the Pacific Ocean. When
Speaker 3: he turns around and runs to the east, he runs
Speaker 3: right in that same area.
Speaker 2: That lighthouse that you see.
Speaker 3: I went to it last year to be able to
Speaker 3: go see it, and that's right near the Francis Perkins
Speaker 3: National Monument, which is one of the new ones. So
Speaker 3: that's a good reason to go to Maine a'l gonquit.
Speaker 3: There's just I just I went all the way to
Speaker 3: the top of Maine, and a lot of people don't
Speaker 3: go that far past Bangalore.
Speaker 5: But when you go up into the very northern parts of.
Speaker 3: Man, it's like going up in the northern minute snowda
Speaker 3: and I see minue snowda.
Speaker 2: It's not snow up there. Right now. You're usually good.
Speaker 3: Right now, Glacier National Park, you always have to wait
Speaker 3: till closer to fourth of July till they can open
Speaker 3: the going to the Sun road and you and again
Speaker 3: you just can't go there and drive over. You have
Speaker 3: to make sure you go online and get your timed
Speaker 3: entry to get over top of But going to the
Speaker 3: Sun Road, there's the I'm Go'll tell you about a
Speaker 3: great road, the Bear Tooth.
Speaker 2: If you've never done the Bear Tooth.
Speaker 3: It's between Yellowstone National Park and Montana and between there
Speaker 3: and Billings and look for the bear Tooth. Everybody had
Speaker 3: told me, they said you got to drive this road.
Speaker 3: So I was driving in Montana and I dropped down
Speaker 3: to the Yellowstone National Park around Mamos Springs, came out
Speaker 3: the northeast side of the Lamar Valley where all the
Speaker 3: bison aar and it's just I got out of there.
Speaker 3: You see the bear Tooth. It's a mountain that looks
Speaker 3: like a bear tooth. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: you start climbing and climbing, and when you hit that
Speaker 3: Montowna side, you are way high and you start going
Speaker 3: down the road back into Montana. One of the most excepts,
Speaker 3: but you have to do it this time of the year.
Speaker 3: That's a highly recommend bar Tooth Highway, Wyoming, Montanna.
Speaker 2: Look that one up. You know what I used to
Speaker 2: love when we were kids.
Speaker 1: We lived in the suburban Chicago area, not too far
Speaker 1: from MDW by the way. In Memorial Day weekend, yeah,
Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend, we used to go to the Wisconsin
Speaker 1: Dell's and my parents would take us on a camping
Speaker 1: trip and they had one of those Coleman pop up campers,
Speaker 1: and you know, we'd find a campground there in either
Speaker 1: Baraboo or Portage, Wisconsin. What can you tell me about
Speaker 1: that area? Is it still a great destination for people.
Speaker 1: It's growing. It's my photo op favorite place. So I
Speaker 1: just went again last year and they're putting in the
Speaker 1: brand new Mountain coastre. It's supposed to open here in
Speaker 1: the summer of twenty twenty five, so it'll be in
Speaker 1: that area. As you know, you go over to Baraboo
Speaker 1: and that's the Ringling area. You have the whole circus world.
Speaker 3: But you between those cities if you want water parks,
Speaker 3: if you want especially Big Sheep one of the great
Speaker 3: amusement parks with the coasters.
Speaker 2: They started it out.
Speaker 3: I remember when I was living in Indiana back in
Speaker 3: the nineties and I went over the head one and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden it became a huge park. But
Speaker 3: just the pictures that you can get taken in that area,
Speaker 3: whether or not you want the giant horse, I mean Rome,
Speaker 3: It'll looks like you're the Coliseum. They have just all
Speaker 3: these co replatives they got. Remember the Sinclair Dinosaur, a
Speaker 3: dinosaur that must be about twenty feet tall. It's on
Speaker 3: the southeast side. As soon as the Eggs of nine
Speaker 3: ninety four, you'll see that one. So yes, it's just growing.
Speaker 3: And there's so many great shows. It's like Vision Forge.
Speaker 3: Do they still have the Tommy Bartlett water Show? I
Speaker 3: remember that as a I'm pretty sure they still have that.
Speaker 3: I have never seen that, but I'll bet it's still there.
Speaker 1: And Paul Paul bunyons for Breakfast with Babe the Blue Ox.
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with that.
Speaker 3: I've never been in there, but I know that if
Speaker 3: you go up in the north you get a lot.
Speaker 2: Of those statues.
Speaker 3: There'll be so many Paul Bunions in the Blue Ox
Speaker 3: and you'll just see those everywhere. It's such a big
Speaker 3: part of It's a great place because if you're living.
Speaker 5: Even in the Midwest, had on up to the up
Speaker 5: of Michigan.
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 3: But when I travel, I'm always looking for the high
Speaker 3: pressure system. So the way I love traveling is I
Speaker 3: say I'm going to take off for a week, and.
Speaker 2: They'll say where you go, and I say, well, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Let's see where the weather takes me.
Speaker 3: And I look for the high pressure system because I
Speaker 3: know all my pictures and I'm going to get some
Speaker 3: pretty good blue sky weather. And then I find places
Speaker 3: to stay along the way and I get good weather.
Speaker 3: So you go where the weather's going to be good.
Speaker 3: That's where I really try. I try to think about
Speaker 3: a week and a half off and say, all right,
Speaker 3: where's the high.
Speaker 2: Pressure right now? Oh, on this day, it'll be this this.
Speaker 3: Okay, if I hit here, I might be able to
Speaker 3: go here, and I change my plans during the entire trip.
Speaker 3: Not for everybody, but it is so much fun because
Speaker 3: you don't know your destination. It sounds like a blast.
Speaker 3: You look for dairy bars with good mill bars, is
Speaker 3: what you're telling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good thing.
Speaker 3: And you know when you started, you talked about you
Speaker 3: played Holiday Road from the movie Vacation. And if you've
Speaker 3: never seen the family Truckster, they have one that's set
Speaker 3: up and it's down in Trinidad, not on the island.
Speaker 2: Trinidad is in Colorado.
Speaker 3: It's I twenty five, very southern Colorado, almost at the
Speaker 3: New Mexico border, and they actually put Edna on top,
Speaker 3: so it is it's a great photo op and that's
Speaker 3: part of the road that they were really driving.
Speaker 2: When they went out to Pagosa Springs.
Speaker 3: And you can see a lot of the things along
Speaker 3: the way from the movie Vacation.
Speaker 1: It's note I really enjoy that it's not exactly a
Speaker 1: summer destination. He would know it's a better weather in summer.
Speaker 1: My birthtown of Mount Pleasant, Iowa. I think we may
Speaker 1: have talked about this before. It's in Henry County, Iowa,
Speaker 1: and they're in the southeast corner of the state, right
Speaker 1: off Highway thirty four. If you go straight from Galesburg,
Speaker 1: Illinois on thirty four, you'll hit Mount Pleasant and town
Speaker 1: of about nine ten thousand people and every year they
Speaker 1: have the Midwest Old Thrashers Reunion, which is an incredible
Speaker 1: festival of old steam engines and farm equipment, and then
Speaker 1: they have modern tractors and they have country music artists there.
Speaker 1: They've got an old steam train that runs around the
Speaker 1: entire fairgrounds that you can ride. I highly recommend that
Speaker 1: for you for a future flash trip when the barometric
Speaker 1: pressure is right.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
Speaker 3: Well, Burlington, the town right next to you as well.
Speaker 3: They have a place called the Phelps House. And if
Speaker 3: you can find the Pelps House, they have the Snake Alley.
Speaker 3: So if you're very familiar with a road that would
Speaker 3: just like Lombard Street in San Francisco. It's just like it,
Speaker 3: and it's next to the Felps House and it's right there,
Speaker 3: and he goes directly down almost towards the Mississippi River.
Speaker 3: But look for Snake Alley if you're in Burlington, not
Speaker 3: too far away from Gary Jeff's place of Mount Pleasant,
Speaker 3: which is a lot of fun. Here's another way, and
Speaker 3: I bet you know about this. In the Quad Cities
Speaker 3: area on the north side, there's a town called Leclair.
Speaker 3: On the other side, there's a place called Port Byron, Illinois.
Speaker 3: Do you know that they play tugle war against each other? No,
Speaker 3: this is one of the coolest things you look up
Speaker 3: look up tugle war from from Leclaire in Iowa.
Speaker 5: So imagine the people of Leclaire, Iowa.
Speaker 3: They take a boat and they take the rope all
Speaker 3: the way across the Illinois and the Port Byron. People
Speaker 3: on each side are pulling on the rope, trying to
Speaker 3: pull each other into the Mississippi River every years.
Speaker 2: Real story.
Speaker 1: I gotta find out when that is, because the next
Speaker 1: time I make a trip to Iowa, maybe this summer
Speaker 1: will make a trip up to Leclair and Port Byron,
Speaker 1: Port Byron and wats the I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to get involved. I'd
Speaker 1: like to see it though. You know, speaking of the
Speaker 1: speaking of the Mississippi River, there are so many cool
Speaker 1: destinations and and it's you know, a day and a
Speaker 1: half's drive from here, more than likely unless you're a
Speaker 1: real dedicated traveler like a flash Phelps. The Mississippi River
Speaker 1: is rife with all kinds of great destinations and locations
Speaker 1: from the Tom Sawyer you know, Huck Finn, Hannibal and
Speaker 1: that whole area. Any any recommendations along that trail, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: Now you can ride each side and they both are
Speaker 3: marked with paddle wheels. So if you get the Mississippi River,
Speaker 3: whether or not you're on the east side or west side,
Speaker 3: you'll see the paddle wheel trail and you can follow
Speaker 3: along the river. One of my favorites. If you can
Speaker 3: go up to northern Minnesota, you actually can see the
Speaker 3: start of the Mississippi River. So you want to go
Speaker 3: up to brain the brain Er Bamidgie area. So if
Speaker 3: you're in Bamidgie here, I'll get the map out. I'm
Speaker 3: a point at for.
Speaker 2: You as well. There's park rapids well as soon.
Speaker 3: As you are here and you can actually go to
Speaker 3: the very start of the Misissippi River. You can walk
Speaker 3: through it because's only about a foot deep once it starts,
Speaker 3: so it's one of the coolest things that you can
Speaker 3: see up there in the midge and then make your
Speaker 3: way down until it gets to the Twin Cities gets
Speaker 3: wire and wider as you know. So that's one of
Speaker 3: my favorites to definitely see along the Mississippi.
Speaker 2: I love that, you know what.
Speaker 3: Another great one is Mud Island in Memphis. If you
Speaker 3: get the Memphis you walk over the bridge, you just
Speaker 3: get on the Mud Island. That's where they have the
Speaker 3: giant Memphis sign kind of like in Cincinnati, you know
Speaker 3: the Queens City right there, a big li says Memphis
Speaker 3: on Mud Island. But they have the lower part of
Speaker 3: the Mississippi River, which would include everything from Missouri all
Speaker 3: the way to the Gulf, and it would go all
Speaker 3: the way down and you can do it, and they
Speaker 3: raise and lower the water depending on where the Mississippi
Speaker 3: is at that time. And right now, as you know,
Speaker 3: it's been pretty high from all these rains. Well you
Speaker 3: have flooding there in Cincinnati, didn't you.
Speaker 1: Well we've had some flooding earlier in the year. Right now,
Speaker 1: we're still dealing with the aftermath of the terrible, deadly
Speaker 1: tornadoes that took place near London, Kentucky that claim me, yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty one lives and you know they're by the way, quick,
Speaker 1: quick chance for me to just once again plug Matthew
Speaker 1: twenty five Ministries, which is located here in Cincinnati and
Speaker 1: Blue Ash and they have drops all over the place.
Speaker 1: They're looking for a number of items from anyone who
Speaker 1: can bring them to these people who literally lost everything
Speaker 1: in the twisters of last week in London, Kentucky and
Speaker 1: Somerset area.
Speaker 2: Just south of Lexington.
Speaker 1: So I tell you what, Flash, If you'll hold on
Speaker 1: a second, I want to do one more quick segment
Speaker 1: with you. We're talking summer vacations and we're talking with
Speaker 1: the ultimate road warrior, Flash Phelps of sixties Gold. And
Speaker 1: it's Memorial Day, so you know, let the vacations begin.
Speaker 1: You're back the segment number two with the one and
Speaker 1: only Flash Phelps, who is a serious XM personality on
Speaker 1: sixties Gold. He's there and every morning you wake up
Speaker 1: anywhere around the country and Flash probably close to your
Speaker 1: neck of the woods because he puts so many miles
Speaker 1: on the Flashmobile every year.
Speaker 2: How many counties has it been?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: How many counties in the United States? And how many
Speaker 1: do you lack on your list?
Speaker 2: Flash?
Speaker 5: I lacked less than or about two hundred right now.
Speaker 2: Hold on.
Speaker 3: Actually, it's kind of cold because I have this running
Speaker 3: count that goes on my list, and so I'm going
Speaker 3: to try to find out what the exact total is
Speaker 3: for you, all right. So it's amazing because I keep
Speaker 3: on trying to hit more and it just takes a while. Okay,
Speaker 3: here's my running total out of thirty one hundred and
Speaker 3: forty four counties in the United States, I've been in
Speaker 3: twenty nine hundred and thirty two. There's only two hundred
Speaker 3: and twelve. I've not been in the counties, which means
Speaker 3: I've been in ninety three point three percent of all
Speaker 3: of the United States.
Speaker 1: And every state including Hawaii. Although he did not drive
Speaker 1: to Hawaii. You have to fly Island Island.
Speaker 3: There's five counties there, and they don't make it easy.
Speaker 3: The great trips to take, and they it's hard to
Speaker 3: get there. Now it's kala Waho County. That's the smallest
Speaker 3: county in the entire United States. Very tough to get
Speaker 3: there after we had the pandemic because that's if you
Speaker 3: know the story about that's where it's called Hanson's disease. Yes,
Speaker 3: and that's the that's the Kala Papa Peninsula and that's
Speaker 3: the whole county. And to be able to get down there,
Speaker 3: I walked all the way down. I got the way
Speaker 3: to go down and do the whole tour, and you
Speaker 3: can take the donkeys down, but once they open that
Speaker 3: definitely take that tour.
Speaker 5: So you can go to Kalauaho County on Hawaii.
Speaker 1: It's on Molokai is where that is another place that
Speaker 1: you can't get you by car on purpose is Alcatraz
Speaker 1: Island and there has been talk of them renovating that
Speaker 1: and turning it back into a prison. What is the
Speaker 1: museum like at Alcatraz? You've been there that I have?
Speaker 3: I did that only because every time I would look
Speaker 3: over it, I said, Highland going to go. So it's
Speaker 3: on my way down to American Samoa, and I said, okay,
Speaker 3: seven San Francisco to be able to go. And I
Speaker 3: wasn't able to get the first boat, but my I
Speaker 3: highly recommend trying to get the first or second boat
Speaker 3: because what happens is you can stay on the island
Speaker 3: as long as you want. So once you get there,
Speaker 3: people keep staying longer and longer. Every fifteen to twenty minutes,
Speaker 3: there's another boat that's coming over Alcatraz, so it gives
Speaker 3: crowded in credit a little more crowded every time. So
Speaker 3: once you get to the island, I got a chance
Speaker 3: to meet one of the former prisoners, so I talked
Speaker 3: with him about what it was like.
Speaker 2: And then they won't tell.
Speaker 3: You a story about why he's there, but I looked
Speaker 3: it up and he had a book to be able
Speaker 3: to read, so you walk all the way up this hill.
Speaker 3: You have to walk all the way up and you
Speaker 3: get up to the museum and you start in where
Speaker 3: they had the showers. That's your very first part where
Speaker 3: you start. And they gave you headphones to put on,
Speaker 3: so it was a self guide to tour. You'd walk around,
Speaker 3: they would tell you that's what this is, that's what
Speaker 3: this is, and you go through and you everybody wants
Speaker 3: to see. I saw the movie Escape from Alcatraz, and
Speaker 3: I wanted to see where the hole was behind that there,
Speaker 3: And they actually have the paper mache head to show
Speaker 3: you how it was made. And then they show you
Speaker 3: how they got through the wall and climbed to the
Speaker 3: very top and went off and down.
Speaker 2: The side of the building.
Speaker 3: And then they said, hey, everybody thinks we'll go to
Speaker 3: San Francisco. It's closer to go to San Francisco on
Speaker 3: the south side. They decided they were going to try
Speaker 3: to make their way north to Angel Island. Nobody knows
Speaker 3: what ended up happening, but that it's beautiful to walk
Speaker 3: that island and go out into the playground and walk
Speaker 3: and just listen to the story.
Speaker 2: But you can see how the walls are crowded.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how they would put that back
Speaker 3: together to make it a prison, but it is such
Speaker 3: a great tourist attraction.
Speaker 2: Do it.
Speaker 3: Make sure it's just one of those things you go
Speaker 3: see sometime, because that was one of my favorite tours,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: A very popular destination for people in this area in
Speaker 1: the summertime, or you know, as long as the weather's good,
Speaker 1: as long as they you know, have a high pressure front.
Speaker 1: Is is put In Bay, Oh Yes, and yeah, I've.
Speaker 3: Been three three times. I took the high speed ferry
Speaker 3: twice to go over put In Bay. So if you're
Speaker 3: not familiar with it, the Ohio Islands on the north
Speaker 3: part of Ohio, right off of Sandusky, there's Port Clinton
Speaker 3: and you can then lead from there the high speed
Speaker 3: Well you can't take your car that way, but you
Speaker 3: can get over there very quick. It'll take you right
Speaker 3: into downtown put In Bay. If you take your car over,
Speaker 3: you're gonna go over. And that was fun. I did
Speaker 3: that too, and I drove around the island, but I
Speaker 3: made sure I did that off season. I did that
Speaker 3: in October and it was a little easier to drive around,
Speaker 3: but to be able to go over and just hang
Speaker 3: out on that island.
Speaker 2: I had a really good time.
Speaker 3: That's the only one into the Kelly Island and all
Speaker 3: the different ones. But put in Bay, I had a
Speaker 3: fantastic time. You can walk a lot of that island
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: It's a home home to the world's the world's biggest bar,
Speaker 1: the world's longest bar.
Speaker 2: Did you go to the war?
Speaker 3: All right, it's right in downtown on that little square
Speaker 3: and you can walk in and you can see that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's some really cool things.
Speaker 3: And if you know down at Key West they have
Speaker 3: the pylon that says how far you are from Cuba,
Speaker 3: Well they have one there that says how far you
Speaker 3: are from the Canada or which is only a couple
Speaker 3: of miles.
Speaker 1: Our cell phones now, listen, when we went, our cell
Speaker 1: phones connected to Rogers told yeah, our cell phones told
Speaker 1: us that we were now in Canada when we were
Speaker 1: on the boat.
Speaker 2: And I'm going, We're not in Canada.
Speaker 6: We're in the United States.
Speaker 2: No, we were in Canada for a brief time. Thank god.
Speaker 1: There were no customs agents or guards there right exactly. Now,
Speaker 1: tell me about cool places in Pennsylvania. I want to know,
Speaker 1: because I am a huge and it's this sounds like
Speaker 1: I'm a relic from another age, which I probably am
Speaker 1: becoming very quickly a huge fan of the late great
Speaker 1: American actor Jimmy Stewart. Tell me about India, Indiana, Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: and the Jimmy Stewart Museum, And have you been there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I went over. They have the statue. Actually
Speaker 3: isn't in front of the museum, it's right in front
Speaker 3: of the courthouse, which is right next door. So you
Speaker 3: get your Jimmy Stewart picture and then you head next
Speaker 3: door into the museum. So if you are a big
Speaker 3: fan of Jimmy Stort, you'd want to be there in Indiana.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to give you another cool thing because
Speaker 3: you don't have to go there. On February of the
Speaker 3: second honks a Tawny Pennsylvania year round. That's just right
Speaker 3: near Indiana. You're not that far away. Make sure you
Speaker 3: do both and hit that one as well. And since
Speaker 3: you're going to be out in western Pennsylvania, always highly
Speaker 3: recommend the Flight ninety three Memorial. We all pretty much
Speaker 3: lived through ninety eleven and we know what happened right
Speaker 3: out there at Shanksville, Pennsylvania. They a year after year
Speaker 3: they've made that an incredible sight. So the Flight ninety
Speaker 3: three National Memorial, So we're seeing Alleghany Portage, which is
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 2: That's for the railroad.
Speaker 3: The Altuna Curve not only the name of their baseball team,
Speaker 3: but it's a real curve for the train line and
Speaker 3: you can stand there and the train will curve around
Speaker 3: you if you stand there and know when the trains
Speaker 3: are coming by. That the Kinzu Bridge up in the
Speaker 3: very northern parts, up in the Alleghany National Forest. And
Speaker 3: I was lucky enough because there's a Woodstock mural. So
Speaker 3: if you're into the sixties and you love Woodstock, they
Speaker 3: did this really cool mural. And Bradford, Pennsylvania, which is
Speaker 3: also the home of Zippo lighters in the Zippo Museum
Speaker 3: really cool. So if you go into downtown they have
Speaker 3: all these murals. Well, I started talking about them so
Speaker 3: much on the air. I got a call one day
Speaker 3: that said, Flash, we made a mural of you and
Speaker 3: it's next to the Woodstock mural. So if you Google
Speaker 3: map or Ways and type in my name Flash Phelps
Speaker 3: p H l A S H p H E L
Speaker 3: P S it'll come up on your Google Maps or
Speaker 3: your ways flash Melps Mural, Bradford, Pennsylvania Main Street. And
Speaker 3: it's right next to the Woodstock Mural. So and if
Speaker 3: you do a selfie of yourself with it, send it
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: I'm posting it.
Speaker 1: Well, you obviously are pH a m o us.
Speaker 3: It's so funny they label it on Google Maps is
Speaker 3: historical site?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: How did my how did my mural become a historical site?
Speaker 2: But then I don't know who.
Speaker 3: Labels these things, but I was honored to be able
Speaker 3: to When I got that message, they said, if you
Speaker 3: don't like it, we'll get rid of it and paint over.
Speaker 2: I said no, no, I said no, I got come
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Google Maps, speaking of Google Maps and you
Speaker 1: traveling and using those flash phelps. Have you been to
Speaker 1: the Gulf of America since it was renamed? And I
Speaker 1: wonder if it's any different than the Gulf of Mexico.
Speaker 2: I didn't see any difference. I went out.
Speaker 3: I didn't even see a sign that said but I
Speaker 3: heard in some places you could find the sign, but
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 5: I drove around it.
Speaker 2: You know what I did.
Speaker 5: I just went down to Florida back in February.
Speaker 3: So as soon as I went out, I went to
Speaker 3: cedar Key, so you're right on the golf and there
Speaker 3: was a lot of hurricane damage in the area, but
Speaker 3: that was beautiful and I drove all the way frond
Speaker 3: Us nineteen. You go up through the Swanee River and
Speaker 3: you can see where Swannee River is, and then you
Speaker 3: loop around Apple at Chicola. So you always hear about
Speaker 3: these places in September and August, especially when it's the
Speaker 3: hurricane season. But if you loop all around, you can
Speaker 3: drive the water. And if you get right out to
Speaker 3: the timeline where Eastern hits Central timeline, they have a
Speaker 3: chair that's sitting right there on the Gulf and it's
Speaker 3: you can be half an Eastern and half in Central
Speaker 3: for your photo off. It is right near Mexico Beach,
Speaker 3: so go to Mexico Beach in Florida. They were hit
Speaker 3: happily by a hurricane number of years ago and they're
Speaker 3: still recovering and that helps.
Speaker 2: And that's right before you would get to Panama City.
Speaker 3: But that's a fun photo op the half and half
Speaker 3: Eastern and Central time giant chair.
Speaker 1: What would you recommend in Upstate New York besides Niagara Fords.
Speaker 2: I the Adirondack Park.
Speaker 5: Definitely, the Lake Placid area.
Speaker 3: Anytime you can go and do that and uh oh gosh,
Speaker 3: and the island to Heart Island. Look up Heart Island
Speaker 3: and this is in the one thousand a thousand Islands areas,
Speaker 3: so you get to go north of Watertown and as
Speaker 3: soon as you get up there, you're your Kingston, Ontario.
Speaker 3: So the northeast side of Lake Ontario thousand Islands. Look
Speaker 3: for Heart Island and you can take a phoat of
Speaker 3: onto that island and just check out the mansion that
Speaker 3: is on that island. It was I've got some of
Speaker 3: the greatest photo ops. But anything inside the Adirondack Park,
Speaker 3: I don't know what I call there. The Adirondack Park
Speaker 3: is just really incredible. From Lake Placid and Saranac. I
Speaker 3: had such a great time driving that area. Well, there's
Speaker 3: a lot to see up there, You're right, I like
Speaker 3: going to say, I'm a big roller coaster rider, so
Speaker 3: if I'm not going to King's Island, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: find all the coasters all over the country, especially this
Speaker 3: time of the year while they're open.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I have a suggestion for you if you've never
Speaker 1: been to Waldo, Ohio.
Speaker 2: I've only been see.
Speaker 3: I haven't been to Waldo, Ohio, but I did go
Speaker 3: to Waldo, Arkansas.
Speaker 2: So I do have a picture at Waldo, Arkansas. Since
Speaker 2: there's a couple of them. I wonder how many cities
Speaker 2: there are in America with the name Waldo.
Speaker 3: And that's one nice thing. Would I have a list
Speaker 3: of all of them? I can usually look them all up?
Speaker 3: And that's how I play. I played this game City
Speaker 3: of the Day, and then I al always have to
Speaker 3: find out how many cities have a certain name, And
Speaker 3: then I can find out quickly by looking up so
Speaker 3: w A L d oh, how many Waldo's are there?
Speaker 3: And then I see it and go, okay, here's your answer. Alabama, Wisconsin, Missouri, Kansas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Missouri, Minnesota,
Speaker 3: there's Ohio, Florida, Kentucky, Maine, California. They all have places
Speaker 3: called Waldo. So how cool is that? I'm glad my
Speaker 3: database searches that quick.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, here here's another question. How many places
Speaker 1: in the country are named Utopia. We have one in
Speaker 1: Ohio in Claremont County. And I was telling my wife.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, we're nowhere right now, because that's
Speaker 1: the true meaning of utopia.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, go ahead. Where is it? Where's Utopia?
Speaker 1: It's right between It's right at the edge of Clearmont
Speaker 1: County going into Brown County on Highway fifty two in Ohio,
Speaker 1: right along the river.
Speaker 2: Is that right? Okay, here's your answer.
Speaker 3: Florida, Illinois, Kansas, New York, Alhio, the one you mentioned,
Speaker 3: Texas and New South Wales Australia have places named utopia.
Speaker 2: So there's your answer for.
Speaker 1: The translation that the translation is exactly nowhere. And of course,
Speaker 1: there was an old joke about about the town of Climax,
Speaker 1: and apparently apparently you have to in one state to
Speaker 1: get to Climax. You have got them. You've got to
Speaker 1: first go through intercourse to get to climb.
Speaker 5: Here in Pennsylvania, you're in Lancaster area.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's yes, and there's blue Ball as well
Speaker 3: right next.
Speaker 2: To that as well. Well. We have that is so true.
Speaker 2: We have a we have a sugar tit in Kentucky.
Speaker 2: We do. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: It is just amazing some of the names of the
Speaker 3: places that you find, and that's what makes it fun
Speaker 3: when you go around and the photo ops. Please get
Speaker 3: all these photo ops you can get when you see
Speaker 3: these places.
Speaker 1: That's what you that's something that you chronicle very well.
Speaker 1: I've seen some of the photos that you've taken on
Speaker 1: the website and yeah, you follow.
Speaker 2: Flash OLPs, Bunty Farm all with phs.
Speaker 3: You can see and go back and look at all
Speaker 3: these different pictures I've taken to show America. And you say, well,
Speaker 3: I'm going to North Dakota. We'll go to my North
Speaker 3: Dakota photo the folder and you can see a lot
Speaker 3: of pictures. Or I have a really cool video I
Speaker 3: did and it's of all fifty states. I went to
Speaker 3: all fifty I did it decided in one year, so
Speaker 3: I made a video.
Speaker 2: It's about twelve minutes, but.
Speaker 3: Every picture is labeled from every state and if you
Speaker 3: look up, it's called all fifty at fifty flash Phelps
Speaker 3: and it's on you can just search that watch that
Speaker 3: video and just keep on hitting pause and look at
Speaker 3: all the different places that I labeled with it. Just
Speaker 3: by nine hundred photos of America. What's the weirdest town
Speaker 3: name you can think of that you've seen? Oh, the
Speaker 3: weirdest town name I like Center of the Universe. That's
Speaker 3: a good one. That's there in Ohio. There's some really
Speaker 3: fun ones. I should have looked up by all my
Speaker 3: fun name cities that that's.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all right, Okay.
Speaker 1: We just said we were going to get together and
Speaker 1: talk about traveling, and I didn't.
Speaker 2: What did you? What do you most?
Speaker 1: What's the hardest part of traveling to all these places?
Speaker 1: Because I know that you have a ball doing it,
Speaker 1: and I know it's something that's a passion of yours
Speaker 1: and has been for many, many years, But there's got
Speaker 1: to be something that just frustrates you to no end
Speaker 1: and you go, God, was it really worth it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's the price, and then by the time you
Speaker 3: get there and it's like, oh my god, sorry, how
Speaker 3: much is this gonna cost for me?
Speaker 2: Number onse it the cast. I'm glad. I get forty.
Speaker 3: Five plus miles down when I'm doing these drives, so
Speaker 3: that really helps me out.
Speaker 2: So I love that the vehicle does that, and I'm
Speaker 2: getting so many miles doing that.
Speaker 3: The car almost says four hundred thousand miles on it
Speaker 3: and it's a twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: I got it in August of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: I average about sixty miles a year, so and that's
Speaker 3: that's the good part about it. I just it's the
Speaker 3: time sometimes where you'll go, man, I got to get
Speaker 3: this place, but they're going to close at a certain time.
Speaker 3: And then sometimes you miss certain places due to how
Speaker 3: long it'll take you to get there, or backed up
Speaker 3: trackic there's certain things. But other than that, I just
Speaker 3: that's why I like winging it, because if you do
Speaker 3: wing it, you'll go, well, I'll just do that next trip.
Speaker 5: And what I do this is a really cool thing.
Speaker 5: I have a map of the entire.
Speaker 3: Us on my phone, and then what I do is
Speaker 3: if I find some somebody will say, oh, did you
Speaker 3: know that there's utopia Ohio. Oh, let me go find it,
Speaker 3: and I put a pin on my map. So then
Speaker 3: when I'm close to the area, I start looking at
Speaker 3: the pins.
Speaker 2: What did I mark?
Speaker 3: And some of them I've forgotten, and I'll go, oh,
Speaker 3: I forgot that was there. Let me go over to
Speaker 3: that place right now. Always keep pins in your map,
Speaker 3: or keep.
Speaker 2: This up, pay for map right here. I got my
Speaker 2: right here, So I make sure I do it.
Speaker 3: I mark things and circle it and a lot of
Speaker 3: people just want to do it on their computers now.
Speaker 2: But I like having the physical math flash Phelps. I
Speaker 2: loved having you again tonight as a guest. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 1: We're out of time, but say save travels and thank
Speaker 1: you thanks for the help.
Speaker 2: All right, you got it, all right? Have you travels
Speaker 2: here for the Memorial Day weekend?
Speaker 1: All right, seven hundred WLW Memorial Day celebrate.
Speaker 2: As I like to say, his pappy was a pistol.
Speaker 1: He's a son of a gun, the author of the
Speaker 1: Good Gun, Bad Guy series of books, and a spokesperson
Speaker 1: for your and my and his Second Amendment rights codified
Speaker 1: and guaranteed in the Constitution as a right and inalienable
Speaker 1: right given to us by our creator, the one, the
Speaker 1: only Dan was who was traveling somewhere in Florida.
Speaker 2: Dan, how are you hey?
Speaker 7: Good Garry Jeff, thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 7: And I've been referred to as a son of something,
Speaker 7: but not a son of a on there's usually another word.
Speaker 7: So thank you, thank you for that.
Speaker 1: Well, you're you're quite welcome. So what are you doing
Speaker 1: in Florida? You're running guns?
Speaker 4: Well, I did.
Speaker 7: No no gun running today. I did an event for
Speaker 7: so the Second Ament of Freedom Freedom Rally.
Speaker 6: Okay, and that was in.
Speaker 7: That was in Summerfield. Summerfield, yep. And now we're so
Speaker 7: I spoke at that event, we did I did a
Speaker 7: book signing, and now we're headed to Tampa and we're
Speaker 7: going to try to hopefully get a nice day on
Speaker 7: the beach. I don't know, it seems like it's still
Speaker 7: going to be kind of cold here in Florida, but uh,
Speaker 7: just vacationing now for the next few.
Speaker 1: Days, just to make us jealous, sunning on the beach.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Dan, you just attended the Second Amendment
Speaker 1: rally that you were talking about speaking there, and you
Speaker 1: go to a lot of these around the country. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of escapes my memory. Has there ever
Speaker 1: been a mass shooting at a rally like that of
Speaker 1: Second Amendment gun loving, god fearing Americans.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think they're you.
Speaker 7: Know, no, no one of the things that I say,
Speaker 7: because I, like I said, I speak at all the
Speaker 7: big events like the Goals event. Second Amendment Foundation has
Speaker 7: their their big event, and so I speak at a
Speaker 7: lot of these big un rights events, and I sometimes
Speaker 7: will get on stage and say, welcome to the safest
Speaker 7: place in the in the country. Because that's exactly what
Speaker 7: it is. With all those gun owners there, you are
Speaker 7: actually in the safest place because a mass shooting or
Speaker 7: anything like that will will never happen. And if, if anything,
Speaker 7: if anybody had the the the uh you know, the
Speaker 7: the I don't know, I don't know what you call it,
Speaker 7: the golf to do it, they would be stopped rather quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, no, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I mean you you may, you may pop off one round,
Speaker 1: but then you've got about one hundred guns pointed right
Speaker 1: at you making sure that the threat is vanquished.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: Well, And Robert, Robert Highland said it, he said, you
Speaker 7: know what was his uh what was his quote? An
Speaker 7: armed society is a polite society. Sure, and that's really true.
Speaker 2: All right now.
Speaker 1: There is a push and we had Savannah Maddis on
Speaker 1: earlier tonight who's a Kentucky legislator in the state House,
Speaker 1: and she is pushing for constitutional carry for eighteen year
Speaker 1: olds in the Commonwealth of Kentucky and also against the
Speaker 1: red flag laws that continue to circulate through the legislators
Speaker 1: around the country in different states, depending on where you're at.
Speaker 1: That gets a lot of traction in Kentucky. Hopefully prayer
Speaker 1: for Lly not. But again we've talked about this many
Speaker 1: times before, Dan, but explain a red flag law so
Speaker 1: people aren't misled and think that this is something that
Speaker 1: could stop someone who shouldn't have a gun from owning
Speaker 1: one and using it. Well, why are red flag laws
Speaker 1: so I don't know, misdirected.
Speaker 7: Well, they're probably twenty some state eighteen nineteen twenty state
Speaker 7: something like that who have these red flag laws. What
Speaker 7: they're called, what they're called extreme risk protection orders. So
Speaker 7: they name them that because they want you to think that,
Speaker 7: you know, if you're under if you're under extreme risk
Speaker 7: by these dangerous gun owners, and the protection orders there
Speaker 7: to help keep you safe. You know, the politicians want
Speaker 7: to make sure that everybody that they're keeping everybody safe.
Speaker 7: What it really is, we call them red flag laws,
Speaker 7: and what it really is is a gun compassation without
Speaker 7: due process. So a judge can sign off on the
Speaker 7: confiscation of someone's guns, and most often based on nothing
Speaker 7: more than an accusation. And sometimes they can be anonymous
Speaker 7: accusations where you know, somebody can deem you a threat
Speaker 7: to society, and cops judge and sign off. Cops and
Speaker 7: come in and take your guns and figure it out later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't. They don't have to. They don't.
Speaker 1: They don't have to prove or provide any evidence that
Speaker 1: you are a threat to anyone, just as hearsay. If
Speaker 1: you've got a neighbor who doesn't particularly like the way
Speaker 1: you mow your lawn and he knows you've got guns,
Speaker 1: he could report you in these states that you are
Speaker 1: threatening him and that you have guns, and they can
Speaker 1: come out and confiscate your guns without any hearing or anything.
Speaker 1: And then you've got to go after the fact to
Speaker 1: prove your innocent, which is a violation of your rights
Speaker 1: in this country. As I understand it, You're you're innocent
Speaker 1: until proven guilty. But this makes someone guilty without any
Speaker 1: proof at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not only a violation of your Second Amendment,
Speaker 7: it's a violation of your Fourth Amendment and your fourteenth Amendment.
Speaker 7: You know, no do process and then illegal teachers, search
Speaker 7: and seizure. So yeah, so it's it's terrible. And then
Speaker 7: what's the Democrats really They would love to have a
Speaker 7: national red flag law. We've managed to keep them keep
Speaker 7: them at bay for now, but they would love to
Speaker 7: have a national red flag law and UH serialization and
Speaker 7: registration of all firearms, which is what they use the
Speaker 7: ghost guns scared to try to do, try to scare
Speaker 7: everybody into thinking that they need to support serialization. But
Speaker 7: serialization has been you know, the homemade firearms has been
Speaker 7: a national tradition since our founding, and there's no U
Speaker 7: be serialized and everybody's numbers, everybody's guns serial numbers so
Speaker 7: you can track them. They would love to have those
Speaker 7: two in place, so you could accompiscate the guns through
Speaker 7: red flag laws and UH be able to track them
Speaker 7: down and locate them through the through the serialization and registration.
Speaker 1: Are there any new laws that you and your your
Speaker 1: folks think are especially heinous that have come on the
Speaker 1: books this year around the country. Have you been looking
Speaker 1: at the new gun laws, because there are I know
Speaker 1: a guy who puts out an annual book every January
Speaker 1: and list the new gun laws in every state. I
Speaker 1: don't know why we need more gun laws, but apparently
Speaker 1: some legislators think we do.
Speaker 6: UH.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you know that's cropped up that makes
Speaker 1: you go, well, somebody's got to stop that. What's going
Speaker 1: on in your home state of New York?
Speaker 7: Well, New York recently took not too long ago, took
Speaker 7: the firearm background check from the federal government, which is
Speaker 7: where it was protected, your information was protected from being
Speaker 7: put on a gun registry. Well, New York State Kathy
Speaker 7: Hocheld decided that she wanted to take that background check
Speaker 7: in house to the state Police Department, where there's no
Speaker 7: controls over what they do with that list of gun owners.
Speaker 7: So we can only assume that she is collecting creating
Speaker 7: a gun registry in the state of New York. Not
Speaker 7: only that, while taking that the firearm background checks in
Speaker 7: house to the state Police Department, also created an ammunition
Speaker 7: background check. So you go and buy a bullet and
Speaker 7: you're going to be put on a list in New York.
Speaker 7: So we're fighting against that stuff. Joe Biden encouraged the
Speaker 7: ATF to create what's called a zero tolerance policy, which
Speaker 7: means that gunailers, you know, firearm retailers, it's the slightest
Speaker 7: mistake on paperwork and they could get their license to
Speaker 7: sell revoked. So that was the zero colonist policy. Now
Speaker 7: we've got new people in Trump's cabinet, and we've got
Speaker 7: new people in these organizations, these agencies, and we're starting
Speaker 7: to turn some of that stuff around. So I think
Speaker 7: a GPAM BONDI is going to do some pretty good
Speaker 7: stuff reorganizing and getting rid of some of the gun
Speaker 7: grabbers out of the APF.
Speaker 1: Well, freedom is not free, and we must maintain our liberty, Dan,
Speaker 1: at all costs, and the Second Amendment of our Constitution
Speaker 1: and the Bill of Rights is a big part of
Speaker 1: that liberty. It's a big part of why this country
Speaker 1: even exists. And I'm glad that you're fighting a good
Speaker 1: fight every day out.
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's the most important one because with
Speaker 7: that out our guns, we don't have anything. We don't
Speaker 7: have any freedoms, and that's the only thing that keeps
Speaker 7: these keeps these tyrants under control, and they we have
Speaker 7: to remind them who they work for. And our Second
Speaker 7: Amendment was designed to specifically do that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it ain't about deer hunting, but that's a nice
Speaker 1: byproduct for a lot of people. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: good gun bad Guy dot com. Check him out there
Speaker 1: and on YouTube, loaded mic podcasts and the other things
Speaker 1: that Dan is maybe coming to a city near you,
Speaker 1: which that rally will be the safest place you can
Speaker 1: be in that city.
Speaker 2: I guarantee it. Thank you, Dan, take care.
Speaker 8: Thanks Thanks Bob, you got it.
Speaker 1: It's the nightcap and we're rolling. Let's keep it going.
Speaker 1: Seven hunderd WLW favorite people on the telephone to spend
Speaker 1: a little bit of time with us on this special
Speaker 1: holiday nightcap, Gary Jeff with Peter Bronson for this half
Speaker 1: hour on seven hundred WLW PTE been a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you made time for us on this
Speaker 1: very important holiday in American history. And I want to
Speaker 1: start by saying hello, Hello, Hello, and then it's great
Speaker 1: to have you, and also by talking about your thoughts
Speaker 1: as a man who's written a lot of books about history,
Speaker 1: primarily local history of Promised Land and the Man who
Speaker 1: Saved Cincinnati, and then the other books about later on
Speaker 1: in this area was developing and forming and things that
Speaker 1: were going on in Cincinnati and around the area. But
Speaker 1: Memorial Day is of course a day set aside to
Speaker 1: remember those who literally gave their all for their country,
Speaker 1: for their fellow man. There's no greater thing than to
Speaker 1: laid down your life for another man, for your brother.
Speaker 1: But it is so overlooked, and you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: decrying the obvious.
Speaker 2: I guess I am.
Speaker 1: But in that do people still grasp the significance of
Speaker 1: this holiday, Peter or this remembrance.
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think less and less.
Speaker 4: I think that our generation, yours and mine, are the
Speaker 4: last generation that grew up with the greatest generation as
Speaker 4: our parents. And we know these stories because many of
Speaker 4: them were shared with us by uncles and fathers and
Speaker 4: maybe grandfathers who served in the first the Great War
Speaker 4: of World War One. But this was the family tales
Speaker 4: and folk history that was passed on to us that
Speaker 4: gave us such a great appreciation of what was accomplished
Speaker 4: in World War Two. Especially as the baby boomers age
Speaker 4: and move on, we don't have many around anymore who
Speaker 4: are really have that connection. And maybe one of the
Speaker 4: biggest reasons we've lost that connection is because we went
Speaker 4: to the all volunteer army, and people from all walks
Speaker 4: of life do not serve anymore the way they used
Speaker 4: to when we had the draft, and you know that
Speaker 4: there's not that connection to the military, to the men
Speaker 4: who served. The whole purpose and meaning of that. I
Speaker 4: think a lot of that's been lost.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of your focus probably was reaffirmed
Speaker 1: when you were the years you worked with the Honor
Speaker 1: Flight here in the Tri State.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely. The first thing I thought of when
Speaker 4: you brought up this question was the Honor Flight books
Speaker 4: that I worked on with Cheryl pop and Honor Flight
Speaker 4: Try State, Because well, I went along on the Honor flights.
Speaker 4: We collected stories from local veterans, many of whom I
Speaker 4: are well known in our community, and many others who
Speaker 4: were never known that well in our community, but who
Speaker 4: had unbelievable stories to tell about their service in World
Speaker 4: War Two in the Pacific and the Atlantic theaters. Many
Speaker 4: of them were telling stories about landing on Normandy Beach
Speaker 4: and D Day. Others talked about fighting on Guattalcanal. The
Speaker 4: things that they went through and the victories they won.
Speaker 4: For our way of life today and the freedom that
Speaker 4: we enjoy is just it's something everybody should read. And
Speaker 4: those first person stories are really gripping.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks to you.
Speaker 1: I have the books, and you're right, and there were
Speaker 1: passages as I was reading them the tears just started
Speaker 1: to well up in my eyes. Yeah, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I really want to read on here, but I need
Speaker 1: to like get myself together because everything's out of focus
Speaker 1: for a second. It was just that gripping and that
Speaker 1: impactful for me, not being you know, anyone who had
Speaker 1: a direct connection except my freedom to World War Two
Speaker 1: and the veterans that you were taking to Washington, d c.
Speaker 1: To honor them for their service. But you think about
Speaker 1: all of the ones and they tell the tales of
Speaker 1: the men that they served with, the women and men
Speaker 1: they served with that did not come back, and we're
Speaker 1: not allied to bring that history to the next generation.
Speaker 1: And I think that is part of what's being lost.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned the Baby Boom generation aging out and
Speaker 1: passing on. Are we not passing on enough of this
Speaker 1: to today's generation? Is that the problem is part of
Speaker 1: the problem on our shoulders, that we don't emphasize this enough,
Speaker 1: the sacrifice that has been made.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: I think that there's there has been a problem, and
Speaker 4: it started really with our generation when we had the
Speaker 4: draft resistance. As a young nineteen year old who was eighteen,
Speaker 4: nineteen year old, who was under threat of being drafted,
Speaker 4: I was certainly a.
Speaker 2: Part of that.
Speaker 4: I resisted the draft, not in the way that I
Speaker 4: refused to go, but I was fortunate to get a
Speaker 4: high lottery number, but a lot of my friends and
Speaker 4: a lot of my age group, in our generation, we
Speaker 4: were the break that it stopped being willing in many cases,
Speaker 4: not across the board, because so many of our generation
Speaker 4: also served with honor, but there were so many of
Speaker 4: us who who really refused and wouldn't go, and that
Speaker 4: really signaled it a real change, a cultural change in
Speaker 4: our country. And when I look at what those veterans
Speaker 4: of world or to the stories they tell when they
Speaker 4: get together are completely different than what they've ever told
Speaker 4: their families or in most cases anyone else. Because the
Speaker 4: only people that really understand what they're talking about our
Speaker 4: other veterans who were there, and when they get together,
Speaker 4: the stories start to flow and they're just amazing. And
Speaker 4: they had a feeling of honor and brotherhood sacrifice that
Speaker 4: I don't think most of us can even understand anymore
Speaker 4: unless we've had the privilege of serving like they didn't.
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm just a little bit younger than you,
Speaker 1: and I'm even further removed from that feeling of, you know, service,
Speaker 1: like it's my obligation as a citizen to do this.
Speaker 1: Vietnam was over by the time I was eighteen, and
Speaker 1: out of high school in nineteen seventy nine, they weren't
Speaker 1: actively drafting people anymore. Of course, I registered for Selective Service,
Speaker 1: but never got called, and I never thought twice about
Speaker 1: actually volunteering to serve, partly because of the stigma, I
Speaker 1: guess of that draft dodge or era and the draft
Speaker 1: resistance era and the Vietnam War that i'd grown up
Speaker 1: watching on television and going on. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I really want to be a part of this. But
Speaker 1: now I look back in retrospect, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I really miss something in my formative years as an
Speaker 1: American by not volunteering to be in one of the
Speaker 1: services and and spending some time beside my out of
Speaker 1: myself for for our country. I think it's more important
Speaker 1: now to me than ever. And and you know, I
Speaker 1: want to do whatever I can to help our nation
Speaker 1: out if there's any sacrifice I can make. But this
Speaker 1: today is about the people who made the ultimate sacrifice, obviously,
Speaker 1: and uh, and it's it's up to us to tell
Speaker 1: their tale since they can aunt.
Speaker 4: Well, you know the point that you may a point
Speaker 4: I thought was very interesting, which is that that the
Speaker 4: Vietnam generation, the men who did serve with Gallar and
Speaker 4: Vietnam were really the most unfortunate because they were denied
Speaker 4: that feeling of appreciation, the celebration of the returning hero.
Speaker 2: The pete I had.
Speaker 1: I had a Vietnam vet tell me once many years ago,
Speaker 1: he said, don't ever say thank you for your service,
Speaker 1: just say welcome home.
Speaker 6: Ed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And every time I encounter.
Speaker 1: A Vietnam Vet, that's that's how I greet them when
Speaker 1: I meet them, is welcome home. And they seem to
Speaker 1: really appreciate that because they.
Speaker 4: Didn't know that's a great, great way to show your appreciation.
Speaker 4: Many of the stories in the Honor flight books from
Speaker 4: the Vietnam veterans shared their total shock and dismay at
Speaker 4: what happened when they got back and how they were
Speaker 4: greeted and mistreated. In many cases, such as when they
Speaker 4: were demobilized and they came back and landed in the States,
Speaker 4: they were told to remove their uniforms and don't leave
Speaker 4: the base in a uniform because you'll be spit on
Speaker 4: and you will be abused and verbally scolded. And you know,
Speaker 4: we've kind of revised history to pretend that was a
Speaker 4: rare instance, but it's really not. You don't have to
Speaker 4: go very far asking these veterans about what it was
Speaker 4: like and I'll tell you. So that's that's pretty sad.
Speaker 4: But plus, we have generations now because we have volunteer
Speaker 4: armies who are not exposed to that. And if they
Speaker 4: choose to, you know, stay in college for seven or
Speaker 4: eight years and and go through life without ever understanding
Speaker 4: what it means to serve your country, then that's just
Speaker 4: that's fine. That seems to be more the norm than
Speaker 4: anything else.
Speaker 1: We'll take a quick break and come back more with
Speaker 1: Peter Bronson on Memorial Day evening on the Nightcap. I
Speaker 1: wanted to know what projects you're working on, if any,
Speaker 1: right now, because we always talk about your books and
Speaker 1: Chili Dog Press, and there's been so much good stuff,
Speaker 1: good material that you've generated the last gosh, the last
Speaker 1: decade that you know, people hear you on the air,
Speaker 1: and whether it's with me or with somebody else, they
Speaker 1: hear you describing your latest work. And the books just
Speaker 1: fly off the shelves and people are so appreciative that
Speaker 1: we were able to let them know about them. So
Speaker 1: what's going on with Peter Brownson? Are you working on
Speaker 1: anything currently?
Speaker 2: Pete.
Speaker 4: I'm working on about four different books for clients authors.
Speaker 4: Some are people that when their books come out, you're
Speaker 4: going to know who they are and you're going to
Speaker 4: be very excited about getting their books. Others are people
Speaker 4: who just always had a dream about writing a children's
Speaker 4: book or whatever, a biography or a mystery novel or adventure.
Speaker 4: So that's a lot of fun. And then I'm also
Speaker 4: working on my own book project, which right now is
Speaker 4: short stories, and these would be a lot like the
Speaker 4: books that I've already written, in other words, exploring local
Speaker 4: history and stories you don't know about our local history,
Speaker 4: people who made a huge impact on our region for
Speaker 4: good or ill, and the exciting adventures that we have
Speaker 4: all around us here in our past that we don't
Speaker 4: know about.
Speaker 1: I told somebody and they actually heard an interview that
Speaker 1: I did with you when Promised Land came out. They
Speaker 1: got the book, they said, man, this thing is a
Speaker 1: page turner. It's a barn burner. It's great. I couldn't
Speaker 1: put it down. Of course, he's a voracious reader too.
Speaker 1: But people love it, people always tell me. And of
Speaker 1: course the last one was the man who saved Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: Correct, The last one was promised before that was man
Speaker 4: who saved Cincinnati. Right, So we went from Civil War
Speaker 4: and then we kind of went back farther in time
Speaker 4: to the Revolutionary War of the first people who came
Speaker 4: to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: They're great books.
Speaker 1: There really are phenomenal books, Pete and thank You.
Speaker 4: I just kind of fun is hearing from people who
Speaker 4: read them and they have questions or they'll share stories,
Speaker 4: for example, with Promised Lam the latest one. I've heard
Speaker 4: from a lot of people who had ancestors whose families
Speaker 4: were among those first one hundred or so people who
Speaker 4: dared to come here when this was extremely dangerous. But
Speaker 4: that's really exciting to hear those stories.
Speaker 1: Peter Bronson is a believing Christian, believing in Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: the Savior of the world, the Lord and Savior.
Speaker 2: Of Pete and me too. I am.
Speaker 1: I am with Peter in that, And this is something
Speaker 1: I struggle with all the time as a talk show
Speaker 1: host doing you know, current events, topics, and many of
Speaker 1: them political. Is that what I what I have had
Speaker 1: to keep in mind as I become more and more
Speaker 1: aware of my spiritual self, is that I get worked
Speaker 1: up about stuff sometimes that I shouldn't be worked up
Speaker 1: about at all and get exercised over things that in
Speaker 1: the ultimate scheme of things, in the eternal scheme of things,
Speaker 1: don't matter a hill of beans.
Speaker 2: How do you how do you fight that?
Speaker 1: And how do you get back to center yourself so
Speaker 1: you don't think that every political war is one you
Speaker 1: need to be fighting, and every argument is not one
Speaker 1: you need to be having. Personally, I just am curious
Speaker 1: for my own edification.
Speaker 4: Well, first, I think it helps for all of us
Speaker 4: to be aware that what you described, this constant feeling
Speaker 4: of anxiety that people get about the they have to
Speaker 4: stay in tune with the latest cable news and know
Speaker 4: exactly what's going on at all times, because every cable
Speaker 4: show has a little breaking news across the bottom. Alert, Alert, Alert,
Speaker 4: And this is be aware. This is the business model
Speaker 4: of our media today. It is no longer simply to
Speaker 4: inform you or give you an opportunity to know what's
Speaker 4: going on in your community. The business model is to
Speaker 4: keep people at a high level of anxiety, to basically
Speaker 4: be the merchants of fear and worry, and to keep
Speaker 4: us all wound up so that we feel like we
Speaker 4: can't We have to be constantly in tune with media
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven, and it's not healthy. It's divided
Speaker 4: into red and blue media, and neither one of them
Speaker 4: wants to have any common facts together because that would
Speaker 4: destroy their business model. So the less keeps their crowd
Speaker 4: ginned up with one side of the story, and the
Speaker 4: right does the same thing on the other side. Now,
Speaker 4: all that said, if you're aware of that, I would recommend,
Speaker 4: for one thing, take an occasional fast from media. Tune
Speaker 4: it out, especially when you're trying to get some quiet.
Speaker 2: Time or downtime.
Speaker 4: Don't let the phone or the TV or the radio
Speaker 4: keep you on the edge of your seat, because it's
Speaker 4: not a healthy place to be. On the other hand,
Speaker 4: that said, I would say the most important thing is
Speaker 4: remember who is in control, and that the good guys
Speaker 4: win in the end because God is on his throne
Speaker 4: and he is in control, not me. A lot of
Speaker 4: these things that you were talking about and we've been
Speaker 4: describing in the news, they are so far beyond our control.
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. What do I possibly have anything in my
Speaker 4: life that can affect one way or the other Fill
Speaker 4: in the blank the latest news story. It's beyond our control.
Speaker 4: So amen, in control of that, the lords in control
Speaker 4: of that. And so I have I have a risk band.
Speaker 4: I've given you one yes, And I pass these out
Speaker 4: at my book signings. And it's a Bible verse that
Speaker 4: I really love. It's Philippians four sixty seven, and this
Speaker 4: verse says, be anxious for nothing but in everything, by
Speaker 4: prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, Let your requests.
Speaker 2: Be made known to God. And the peace of God
Speaker 2: that surpasses.
Speaker 4: All understanding, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ.
Speaker 2: Amen. Wow, that is such a promise.
Speaker 1: That's that's a perfect that's a perfect way to end this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad. Oh, I'm glad you had scripture ready.
Speaker 1: This is wonderful. It's just what I need, just what
Speaker 1: I needed. Peter, great, Thank you so much. God, God
Speaker 1: bless you and keep you and we will talk soon,
Speaker 1: all right, and bless.
Speaker 4: You too, Gary, Jeff, and have a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 1: I think I'm enjoying one right now. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: It's the nightcap and we're not done yet. So even
Speaker 1: though this is a somber Reverend holiday for America, even
Speaker 1: to call it a holiday seems a little bit not
Speaker 1: quite right, but a grateful Memorial Day. I couldn't think
Speaker 1: of a better way to conclude tonight's special Memorial Day
Speaker 1: nightcap than with a conversation with my old friend Andy Furman.
Speaker 2: Plus he was oddly available.
Speaker 1: So I'm grateful not only for those who give the
Speaker 1: ultimate sacrifice, Andy, but that you are almost always available
Speaker 1: to me. And I don't know what that says about
Speaker 1: you exactly, but I know you're my friend and you
Speaker 1: do anything for me, including be on my radio show.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. I am grateful to you,
Speaker 1: Andy Furman.
Speaker 6: I'm only a phone call away. You make it sound
Speaker 6: like you know.
Speaker 8: Nothing else going on in my life, but that's okay.
Speaker 8: I appreciate a happy Memorial Day to you. When yours
Speaker 8: you know you say it's a summer day. I think
Speaker 8: it's a happy day because they created freedom for everybody.
Speaker 8: But again, as a ninety nine percent of the people
Speaker 8: who celebrate this holiday are happy for a three day weekend.
Speaker 8: They grill out and they just shoot a fireworks. That's
Speaker 8: what they think the holiday is. It needs to be
Speaker 8: taught other the more. And I guarantee if they pull
Speaker 8: the school kids, at least in the Cincinni public schools.
Speaker 8: I don't think many of them would even know what the.
Speaker 6: Holiday is all about.
Speaker 8: You know what, you know, you know what the schools
Speaker 8: they be out anyway.
Speaker 1: What's odd to me, Andy, is that people always say,
Speaker 1: in this day and time that this is the most
Speaker 1: divided our nation has ever been. And I think about
Speaker 1: the half million people who died in the Civil War. No,
Speaker 1: I think it's been more divided than this. And certainly
Speaker 1: this is not numero uno on the times in which
Speaker 1: the United States of America has been divided. We were
Speaker 1: two different countries for a few short years at one
Speaker 1: point and had to be mended back together, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: you say. And that's where Memorial Day or decor Ration Day,
Speaker 1: the original name for this holiday came from, was the
Speaker 1: reunion of our country. And remembering those on both sides,
Speaker 1: the North and the South, and there were fine people
Speaker 1: on both sides. Believe me, they were just defending a
Speaker 1: way of life. And even though it was ignorant in
Speaker 1: the South that they wanted to continue slavery and slaving
Speaker 1: a whole species of man, the fact is there were
Speaker 1: a lot of honest, hardworking people who just got drawn
Speaker 1: into it. And wound up giving their lives. And that's
Speaker 1: what Memorial Day ultimately springs from, and that's what it's
Speaker 1: originally about. So do you think that America is the
Speaker 1: most divided it's ever been right now today?
Speaker 8: Well, I think the people that say that they're very
Speaker 8: foolish and uneducated because they.
Speaker 6: Don't know the history of America. Number one.
Speaker 8: I think most of the people are saying that are
Speaker 8: the ones that are doing the dividing. Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 1: They talk about it, so they try and create this
Speaker 1: false division. I walk right every day in this land
Speaker 1: like you do. Do you see people at war with
Speaker 1: each other on your daily walk? I mean, and I'm
Speaker 1: in different environments and you know, I'm in that bar
Speaker 1: three four days a week, and I see people of
Speaker 1: all skin colors, all kinds of different persuasions as far
Speaker 1: even sexual orientation, and they all get along. I don't
Speaker 1: know where this talk of being divided comes from. I
Speaker 1: think you hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 8: I usually to kind of assume in a little bit
Speaker 8: under term divided, I think more opinionated. And I'll tell
Speaker 8: you why. I say that, because I think social media
Speaker 8: has created that. Social media has provided an outlet for
Speaker 8: people to basically say and spew what they want, what
Speaker 8: they don't want, you know. And I talk about sports
Speaker 8: as well. And there was a story just the other day.
Speaker 8: I turned the game on them, just Chattel surfing and
Speaker 8: the Atlanta Dream was playing the Dallas team in the
Speaker 8: WNBA and Brittany Grinder as you know, who was.
Speaker 6: Held hostage in Russia food.
Speaker 8: While she plays now for the Atlanta Dream And she
Speaker 8: was interviewed at halftime and in the middle of the interview,
Speaker 8: in the middle she walked away from the interviewer. And
Speaker 8: this is on CBS Sports, not the network, but CBS
Speaker 8: Sports Network, and she walked away from the interviewer and
Speaker 8: she turned the face at halftime to the referee, the
Speaker 8: official and said get it f and right on live TV.
Speaker 6: Then you about to the interview.
Speaker 2: So I'll say, I scratched.
Speaker 6: My head and say why. And you know, to me,
Speaker 6: I'm not apprude.
Speaker 8: And I've heard those turns before I heard the F bomb.
Speaker 8: And I tell you what, I would not be surprised
Speaker 8: that even if college professors are using it in lecture
Speaker 8: hole right now on this day and age, politicians have
Speaker 8: used it in speeches. So I'm not that a shame
Speaker 8: to say that. I've heard it or, as I say,
Speaker 8: approved to say it at times. But I think there's
Speaker 8: a time and the place, and I think that for
Speaker 8: a basketball player who has a stage, a platform where
Speaker 8: young kids, high school kids will hear and see that,
Speaker 8: they'll think it's correct.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to watch step further.
Speaker 8: The kid help the the kid on the Indiana paces
Speaker 8: who had the chokes sign Halliburton the other day, Tyre's
Speaker 8: Halliburton after the Knicks lost that game in game two,
Speaker 8: put his hand around his neck and get the choke sign.
Speaker 8: And the next did choke. First of all, he couldn't
Speaker 8: even be creative enough to do a thing on his own.
Speaker 6: He copied it from Reggie Millie years ago. But he
Speaker 6: did that, and again I look.
Speaker 8: At it and I laugh. I find it somewhat humorous.
Speaker 8: But again, there's gonna be high school kids. You're gonna
Speaker 8: go to a high school basketball game and see a
Speaker 8: high school kid putting his hand around his throat when
Speaker 8: a team that he plays chokes and loses the game.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's a It's a good showing, that's
Speaker 8: all I'm saying. I don't think it's good, and maybe
Speaker 8: maybe I'm wrong, Maybe the commissioner of the NBA and
Speaker 8: WNBA need to step in and do something about it.
Speaker 1: Really well, you know what, there's lots of situations where
Speaker 1: if you make a gun symbol with your fingers, or
Speaker 1: you act like you're slashing someone's throats, it's called out
Speaker 1: and sometimes those people are put on the carpet where
Speaker 1: they show.
Speaker 2: Would be J. D.
Speaker 8: Morant from the Memphis Grizzlies. He's been fined several times
Speaker 8: with the gun make a three point shot and he
Speaker 8: takes his thinger ound and emulates a gun and he's
Speaker 8: ben find several times.
Speaker 1: There's a fine line between freedom of speech, which we
Speaker 1: all enjoy, which says the government cannot limit or put
Speaker 1: us in jail for what we say, and then those
Speaker 1: things that truly do insight violence and as you say,
Speaker 1: influence people who are watching in a negative way to
Speaker 1: where they think that is acceptable in a civil society.
Speaker 6: So that, you know what, you're a very interesting point.
Speaker 8: You talk about that big umbrellas a freedom of speech
Speaker 8: which people kind of hide and use.
Speaker 6: You know, all freedom of.
Speaker 8: Speech I could do.
Speaker 6: Well, Yeah, there is freedom.
Speaker 8: Of speech, Thank goodness, in our country because of the
Speaker 8: people who fought for it. However, when you work for
Speaker 8: an organization, when you're part of a a of a
Speaker 8: of corporation, you have to apply by the rules of
Speaker 8: the corporation. Absolutely, best player in the National Basketball Association,
Speaker 8: you have to follow some rules. I mean, if you
Speaker 8: have a franchise in McDonald's, all right, and you think
Speaker 8: that it might be better served if you own this
Speaker 8: franchise and serve your hamburgers on a bagel rather than
Speaker 8: a sesame seed bun, No, you can't do it. Part
Speaker 8: of the deal of McDonald's when you buy into a franchise,
Speaker 8: did you follow franchise e rules that you serve your
Speaker 8: hamburgers on a sesame seed bun?
Speaker 2: And that's it.
Speaker 1: That's why McDonald's has been so successful because their uniformity.
Speaker 1: People know what they're going to get when they go there,
Speaker 1: and that's why they continue to go there.
Speaker 2: And that's why McDonald's business.
Speaker 8: When you go to McDonald's, you're going to see the
Speaker 8: people behind the counter wearing those McDonald's uniforms with the
Speaker 8: McDonald's logo. You're not going to see a guy wearing
Speaker 8: a shirt that says if you want it.
Speaker 1: No, No, you will not, absolutely, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: the same thing when you talk about freedom of speech.
Speaker 1: Freedom of speech is not threatening Jewish students in a university.
Speaker 1: It is not keeping them from getting to the library
Speaker 1: or their dorm or making them feel viola because of violence.
Speaker 6: Act violence.
Speaker 1: Violence is not freedom of speech and it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: tolerated in this country in any regard because of any
Speaker 1: political affiliation. And yet some of these college campus presidents
Speaker 1: and some of some people who are you know, insisting
Speaker 1: on these movements and these radical movements that you know,
Speaker 1: they point the finger in spotlight one group that they
Speaker 1: don't like for political reasons, and they use violence against
Speaker 1: them or vandalism. That is not freedom of speech as
Speaker 1: it is defined by our constitution and should not be
Speaker 1: tolerated period.
Speaker 8: Okay, I want to talk about Okay, and this is great,
Speaker 8: but I want to lighten it up a little bit
Speaker 8: and talk about sports because I do that because I
Speaker 8: feel absolutely I'm not that smart anyway, but I'm a
Speaker 8: little smarter in the sports arena than anything else. And
Speaker 8: I will say this, first of all, there's a lot
Speaker 8: of history on Memorial Day.
Speaker 6: What the history is?
Speaker 8: They say, the saying is that the team in baseball,
Speaker 8: major League Baseball's in the first place a Memorial Day
Speaker 8: is going to independence, all right. So that's an old
Speaker 8: wives tale in baseball. Okay, that's number one. Number two,
Speaker 8: I want to throw this out, and well the other.
Speaker 1: No, statistically, how often does that hold out that's the team?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's a good, good question. I will check
Speaker 8: on that next time you not chat. However, since nineteen
Speaker 8: forty seven, believe it or not, the National Basketball Association
Speaker 8: has always played a game on Christmas Day, all right.
Speaker 8: Since twenty twenty, the National Football League's played the game
Speaker 8: on Christmas Day and in two games, and this year
Speaker 8: they're going to have a triple header on Friday, December
Speaker 8: twenty fifth, Christmas Day, which basically pushes aside the NBA
Speaker 8: because obviously, you know as well as I do, everybody's
Speaker 8: going to watch the football game or not the basketball
Speaker 8: game for various reasons.
Speaker 6: Number one, you know.
Speaker 8: People in non NFL cities still watch the NFL. People
Speaker 8: in non NBA cities tend not to watch the NBA.
Speaker 8: For example, we live in Cincinnati. You turn on the
Speaker 8: eleven o'clock or ten o'clock news for that matter, and
Speaker 8: watch the sports. They'll never get of an NBA score
Speaker 8: because no one cares. We don't have an NBA franchise.
Speaker 8: If you live in Salt Lake City, Utah, for example,
Speaker 8: they'll probably give NFL scores for various reasons, in particular.
Speaker 6: Probably gambling, whatever it may be. But in the NFL
Speaker 6: is national. NBA's regional. Okay.
Speaker 8: So the commission of the NBA came out the other
Speaker 8: day Adam Silver and said competition is good, this is okay.
Speaker 8: When he was quizzed about the NFL and I was
Speaker 8: going through on Christmas Day.
Speaker 6: First of all, he's full of you.
Speaker 8: Know, competition is good, but it's not good for him
Speaker 8: because they basically squeezed the NBA out of Christmas Day.
Speaker 8: Yet I'm an NBA fan. I love the NBA. I
Speaker 8: always wanted to see a franchise here in Cincinnati, and
Speaker 8: it's not going to happen. However, I wrote a letter
Speaker 8: yesterday to Adam Silver suggesting an idea. I want to
Speaker 8: run it by you because you're the man of reason.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 8: The National Hockey League has done a lot this year.
Speaker 8: They really have to have that Final four thing with
Speaker 8: foreign countries playing.
Speaker 6: That was great.
Speaker 8: They planned Christmas Day outdoors, which is unbelievable. They've done
Speaker 8: a lot of things to promote the sport, and the
Speaker 8: NHL is really thriving.
Speaker 2: Really believe they are.
Speaker 8: So I wrote to Adam Silver and say, here's what
Speaker 8: you got to do to come back the NFL on
Speaker 8: Christmas Day because I'm a big NBA fan. The cities
Speaker 8: of Miami, Los Angeles, and one other southern city which
Speaker 8: I can't remember right now. It was La or La
Speaker 8: Phoenix on Miami. They all have franchises on Christmas Day,
Speaker 8: you should.
Speaker 6: Play the game outdoors. I think they could do it.
Speaker 8: I think Miami on Christmas Day, Phoenix and La could
Speaker 8: be a climate good enough to have an outdoor game
Speaker 8: on Christmas Day, which would really somewhat combat the interest
Speaker 8: of the NFL on that day, but people would tune
Speaker 8: it in just for the curiosity factor. Really, Madam Silver
Speaker 8: writes me back, do.
Speaker 2: You want my opinion on what you just said?
Speaker 6: Please do it and you could make fun of it
Speaker 6: and say stupid.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not gonna say it's stupid, because again,
Speaker 1: I'm all about inclusion, especially on this day. Andy on
Speaker 1: Memorial there. I'm about it uniting, not dividing. I say
Speaker 1: to that that the NFL will win regardless, the NFL
Speaker 1: will win over the NBA and the NHL, no matter
Speaker 1: what the NBA does on a particular day like Christmas Day,
Speaker 1: for example. What I do remember as a kid, when
Speaker 1: I was more of an NBA fan, and this was
Speaker 1: in the eighties, I had a portable black and white
Speaker 1: TV that ran on batteries and it was just you know,
Speaker 1: rabbit ears, you know. And We're at a picnic on
Speaker 1: Memorial Day with my family, and I brought my little
Speaker 1: TV along with me because I wanted to watch the
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics and the LA Lakers play on Memorial Day
Speaker 1: while we were having our picnic. And nobody objected to that,
Speaker 1: and I had the TV right there. I think Boston
Speaker 1: creamedom or something by thirty points, but as a NBA
Speaker 1: playoff game, and I wanted to see it. And that's
Speaker 1: fine on Memorial Day. But let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: The NBA season, for a lot of people that are
Speaker 1: just mildly interested in not rabbit NBA fans, does not
Speaker 1: begin until the NFL season is over after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: After the Super Bowl anybody who might pay attention to
Speaker 1: the NBA who's not a rabbit. NBA fan is not
Speaker 1: going to start paying attention until February or even March,
Speaker 1: as we get closer to the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 6: I agree with everything you say.
Speaker 1: The NFL will rule over the NBA until they're not
Speaker 1: playing games in the NFL, and then you know, maybe
Speaker 1: they get a few more eyeballs.
Speaker 8: Right, and especially the NFL is going to dominate on Christmas, saying,
Speaker 8: no matter what the NBA does, that they could play naked,
Speaker 8: they still would dominate. And I'll tell you why Christmas
Speaker 8: is zooming into the playoffs situation. The playoffs teas will
Speaker 8: be shocking for playoffs, Oh absolutely around Christmas time. So
Speaker 8: that's bigger even than the regular NFL game. This is huge.
Speaker 8: So I'm telling you if the NBA players played naked
Speaker 8: that day, that the NFL would still outdrawing really well,
Speaker 8: I do it.
Speaker 1: I think that would even further decrease the NBA's ratings
Speaker 1: if they played in the nude.
Speaker 8: No, but I will say that if they played the
Speaker 8: game outdoors, I think if the ratings were two to
Speaker 8: one or three to one, maybe they could decrease it
Speaker 8: to two to one, maybe because out of curiosity, people
Speaker 8: would want to see what's going on, especially maybe if
Speaker 8: one NFL game is like a route you know, it's like,
Speaker 8: you know, really out of control, people will switch the
Speaker 8: dial and go back to the NBA.
Speaker 6: Well unless they unless.
Speaker 1: Unless they raise the hoop to like twelve feet or whatever.
Speaker 1: Then you have the added factor, like say golf on
Speaker 1: playing outdoors on Christmas Day, even in the southern climbs,
Speaker 1: you still have the possibility of wind or rain at
Speaker 1: complicate complicating the action a little bit, which might make
Speaker 1: it more interesting.
Speaker 2: You know that three pointer.
Speaker 1: Is not gonna be not gonna be very actors of
Speaker 1: the outside bringing.
Speaker 8: Down probably cover the court with some sort of covering. However,
Speaker 8: how do you cover Well, maybe you can't cover the fans,
Speaker 8: because if they're in a regular stadium where they have
Speaker 8: like the facade coming over that cover the seating, they
Speaker 8: can probably work. They probably could some sort of a
Speaker 8: tent over the court in preparation for a rain. They
Speaker 8: probably could. But you know what, I promise you our
Speaker 8: party won't get get any feedback whatsoever.
Speaker 6: But if I do, you'll be the first to know.
Speaker 8: I'll let you know if adam civil rights, so close.
Speaker 1: Me back, and I'll let you know if anybody cares
Speaker 1: after they listen to this.
Speaker 2: So you have written.
Speaker 1: You have written another op ed to the Cincinnati Inquirer,
Speaker 1: which again is something that sadly nobody pays attention to,
Speaker 1: but you do.
Speaker 6: And what don't knock the Inquirer.
Speaker 8: I still believe that there's a hearty soul of group
Speaker 8: of people that read the Inquirer. They love the newspapers,
Speaker 8: they love to they love to read even online or
Speaker 8: hold it becare's a lot of people who like to
Speaker 8: feel and touch a newspaper. I'm one of them, all right,
Speaker 8: So don't I'm not the young. I don't think anybody
Speaker 8: under the age of forty does. But I think a
Speaker 8: lot of people do still like to read a newspaper.
Speaker 1: So as you're feeling your newspaper, what do you want
Speaker 1: to read when you open up the the op ed
Speaker 1: section to see if your letter's there?
Speaker 2: What did you write about?
Speaker 6: Andy Well?
Speaker 8: I wrote about the situation of Cincinnati, which I love
Speaker 8: living here, and I love the fact that we have
Speaker 8: a lot of people that want to make the place better,
Speaker 8: make the city better, and their dreamers out there but
Speaker 8: you know what, before you dream, you know, let the
Speaker 8: dream come true and then talk about it. For example,
Speaker 8: I go back in history, because I've been here a while.
Speaker 8: I remember one a former I think it was a
Speaker 8: city council member, not going to mention names to embarrassed people.
Speaker 8: He wanted to get the Olympics here, right, I mean,
Speaker 8: and after a while you get these people.
Speaker 6: That just blowharts. It's just open their mouth.
Speaker 8: To maybe hear themselves talk, and nothing ever happens, so
Speaker 8: the Olympics never came. After that, we heard someone say
Speaker 8: they wanted to get a college football bowl game here
Speaker 8: and call it the Chili Bowl and maybe have skyline
Speaker 8: chili spots.
Speaker 6: Not a bad idea.
Speaker 8: We have the facilities where they could play it in.
Speaker 8: They probably could play it in pay Course Stadium. But again,
Speaker 8: keep the mouth shut and get it done and then
Speaker 8: make the major announcement. You know, I'm going to say
Speaker 8: something that a former football coach who used to roam
Speaker 8: the sidelines on the Cincinnati Bengals sidelines used to say,
Speaker 8: his name is Marvin Lewis. I see better than I hear,
Speaker 8: and I'll add to that, I see better than I
Speaker 8: hear and than I read okay, because now we're into
Speaker 8: two more situations. Now. The city of Cincinnati is talking
Speaker 8: about getting the NFL Draft here, right, the NFL Draft
Speaker 8: a wonderful event. When and where will it happen? And
Speaker 8: you know what, is there a committee? Are you doing
Speaker 8: anything about it? You're tossing out these words to make
Speaker 8: yourself feel good that you're a good guy, a good
Speaker 8: person to help promote Cincinnati, but you're not doing anything
Speaker 8: about it. Really, And it's another one now, the last
Speaker 8: and lace less and not least at all. There's this
Speaker 8: arena thing which is going on for the last twenty
Speaker 8: five years. Blame me as long as I know, as
Speaker 8: Almo as I tried to get an NBA team here,
Speaker 8: and I'm one of those guys I tried. Not only
Speaker 8: did I try, I had the investor. And as soon
Speaker 8: as the investor came to Cincinnati and saw what old
Speaker 8: Riverfront Stadium the Riverfront Coliseum looked like, he got back
Speaker 8: on the plane in the west.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 8: So you could call me a blowhard as well if
Speaker 8: you want to. But we had the investor, we had
Speaker 8: the guy who wanted to buy an NB eighteen here
Speaker 8: and move it to Cincinnati. But we couldn't because there
Speaker 8: was no place to play, right, So let's get back.
Speaker 6: To this arena, all right. You got a committee here
Speaker 6: who wants.
Speaker 8: To get an arena, a new arena, and all I
Speaker 8: hear about is like we wanted downtown, we wanted at
Speaker 8: the banks, we wanted with TQ wellers, we wanted in
Speaker 8: the suburbs. You know what, stop it. I don't want
Speaker 8: to hear arena anymore because you know why, because the
Speaker 8: individual and to a group of people or corporate entity
Speaker 8: that buys that arena, they're gonna decide where it goes.
Speaker 8: Because the who weather pays for it is going to
Speaker 8: decide where they want to put their arena. To stop
Speaker 8: making decisions where it's going to go. Go out there
Speaker 8: and get a group of people or an equity group
Speaker 8: to buy the arena. That's what you need to do.
Speaker 1: And don'ts and don't again, and don't again burden the
Speaker 1: taxpayers with building that arena where the city wants it.
Speaker 1: You're right, the people who are going to actually own
Speaker 1: the franchise are the ones that should decide. Andy. We
Speaker 1: got to end it there. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: for spending the last few minutes of Memorial Day with me.
Speaker 8: Well, like you say, I have nothing else to do anyway.
Speaker 2: Right, and it's been too cold to swim.
Speaker 6: In your pool, all right, thank you?
Speaker 1: All right, A grateful Memorial Day to you, my friend
Speaker 1: Andy Furman on the nightcap, as we conclude on this
Speaker 1: most hallowed of United States holidays.
Speaker 2: Back in a moment to wrap up,