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<v Speaker 1>Good evening and welcome to a Memorial Day nightcap on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW Gary Jeff Walker. Words are cheap, and

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<v Speaker 1>the cheap words we use or choose to try and

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<v Speaker 1>do justice, to try and honor those who've given the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate sacrifice for us can never do them justice. It

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<v Speaker 1>can't bring them back, and it can't really really give

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<v Speaker 1>tribute to their loss and their sacrifice. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to think a little bit about happy Memorial Day, and

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<v Speaker 1>people toss around all the time, and I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that some people who have served our country and taken

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<v Speaker 1>the oath and upheld it might take umbrage with the

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<v Speaker 1>term happy Memorial Day when they think about their fallen

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues who gave their all. Maybe we should say grateful

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day because I am grateful, and I am grateful

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<v Speaker 1>because that that sacrifice has meant a lifetime of the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to live the life I chose the chance to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you, to do this career I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do from the time I was seven years old. A

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<v Speaker 1>chance to enjoy my family, a chance to enjoy marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to have this career. It's a grateful Memorial

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<v Speaker 1>Day to me, and even my gratitude will never be enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those family members who have lost those in

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<v Speaker 1>war in combat for the United States of America, they

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<v Speaker 1>also are grateful for their service, and they know more

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<v Speaker 1>than me or most people how great that sacrifice really

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<v Speaker 1>is and was. And you could say that maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>have some survivor's guilt because I never paid that price

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<v Speaker 1>that they did, and maybe I do say I'm lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>but I even think of that, and I go luck

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with it. It is because of

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<v Speaker 1>their deeds, and my words will never measure up to

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<v Speaker 1>their deeds. With that in mind, we have some thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on Memorial Day, which my friend Peter Bronson will share

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<v Speaker 1>with us tonight, and some of the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>get to enjoy because of their sacrifice, like great music

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<v Speaker 1>and the chance to travel this remarkable country that's remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>for no other reason than that sacrifice. And we will

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<v Speaker 1>do all of that tonight on this nightcap, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little fun time with Furman before we're done. With

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, let's get on with the show up

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<v Speaker 1>next to Travelogue, because this last Monday in May is

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<v Speaker 1>not only Memorial Day, but for many it marks the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the summer travel season. Are there some interesting

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<v Speaker 1>places you might want to go. My friend Flash Phelps

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<v Speaker 1>will join us in just a moment. He's been to

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<v Speaker 1>all fifty states, most of them except for Hawaii by car,

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<v Speaker 1>because you still can't do that by car get to

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<v Speaker 1>a way that is. But anyway, that summer travelogue begins

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<v Speaker 1>our nightcap next on seven hundred w LW. So if

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<v Speaker 1>there's some place cool to talk about, Flash can probably

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<v Speaker 1>authoritatively tell you where you should go. That's what what

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<v Speaker 1>we got. We got Flash on to tell you where

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Flash Phelps, how are you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>You good?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's fantastic. You know what a Memorial Day weekend?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a trivia question for you. Memorial Day Weekend

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<v Speaker 3>M d W. They're the three letters of which airport

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<v Speaker 3>m that's a great question, md w.

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<v Speaker 5>W Memorial Day Weekend m MEW.

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<v Speaker 2>Three letter code. Somebody's probably flying through there right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big one. It's it's next to O R D.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh here it's midway in Chicago. Yes, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that Memorial Day weekend about a week ago?

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, somebody wrote Memorial Day Weekend and they

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<v Speaker 3>just wrote MDW And I went midway and then they

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about Memorial Day weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I got to use that on the air

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. That's food phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the designations, and I'm surprised you do,

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<v Speaker 1>because most of your travel is on the ground in

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<v Speaker 1>your car. You go everywhere, and and you've been everywhere seemingly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I want to ask.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you, well before you say that,

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<v Speaker 3>I did a trip just two weeks ago, and I

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<v Speaker 3>drove twenty seven hundred miles and my Flashmobile got forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine point five miles to the gallon in the first

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<v Speaker 3>nine hundred miles. It's a it's all gas power. Because

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<v Speaker 3>it's I don't want to say the name of the

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<v Speaker 3>car I call a Flashmobile. I'll tell you what. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a palindrome. Right now, we're on a palindrome date. You

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<v Speaker 3>can write the date today forward and backwards. As you

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<v Speaker 3>probably know, yes, and so it's it's a car that

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<v Speaker 3>is a palindrome.

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<v Speaker 5>Forward and backwards is the same name. So you probably

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<v Speaker 5>know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there you go, all right, So, but forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>miles to the gallon, that's amazing, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty amazed.

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<v Speaker 3>And these and the tires that are on there almost

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<v Speaker 3>have almost one hundred thousand miles on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Where was that proported at eighty thousand? Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>where the cheapest gas was flash on your trip Tennessee?

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<v Speaker 3>It's always Tennessee always gives me some pretty cheap gas.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's why I usually like driving the South.

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<v Speaker 3>The South always gives me better deals than over three dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what it is. Part of it is

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<v Speaker 1>is the taxes. I mean you, just as the states

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<v Speaker 1>that have less state gasoline taxes, you're going to find

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper gas low and behold, well, isn't that a surprise?

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<v Speaker 1>And my parents are still alive. God bless them, and

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<v Speaker 1>God bless me for still. I'm so grateful. They live

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<v Speaker 1>in Hendersonville, Tennessee, which is just outside of Nashville. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're familiar where Hendersonville is. Sure up on the side, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and uh. When we drive from here in the

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<v Speaker 1>tri state area of Ohio and northern Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>And seventy five seventy one to sixty five, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep seventy five seventy one to sixty five and go south,

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<v Speaker 1>go straight through Louisville. Used to go the Gene Freighter

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<v Speaker 1>of Jean Jean Snyder Parkway.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of times they want you to take

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<v Speaker 2>the water the Watertown Waterson, Waterson Express, Waterson. That's the one.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I'm telling you what driving driving straight through

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville is actually closer. It's it's a lot cheaper and

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<v Speaker 1>there's not as many You drive an extra twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>on the Gene Snyder to get down to sixty five. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>when we go there, gases always, no matter what time

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<v Speaker 1>of year, twenty to thirty cents cheaper a gallon in

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<v Speaker 1>Middle Tennessee than it is up here.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would agree.

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<v Speaker 3>You have you stopped it one of the the disco

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<v Speaker 3>bathrooms up there in northern Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet I did it, and my gosh, was that fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So for if you're in the Cincinnati area in northern

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky that look up disco bathroom.

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<v Speaker 5>You go in, you hit a button and says don't

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<v Speaker 5>hit this button.

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<v Speaker 3>You hit the button and all the lights go out

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<v Speaker 3>and the disco ball starts spinning around the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in men and women.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard it's in the women too, but it'll spin

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<v Speaker 3>around and it'll do the whole disco and it'll start

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<v Speaker 3>playing Beg's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>So cool in your area. Have you been to BUCkies yet?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I tried to go to, especially after I went.

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<v Speaker 3>In Texas because I went to when I told the

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<v Speaker 3>first one out right near Austin. So I had gone

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<v Speaker 3>to that one. I said, Man, it should be putting

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<v Speaker 3>these everywhere. So as soon as they built the one

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<v Speaker 3>in Alabama, which are now four, and so I keep

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<v Speaker 3>on going to all the ones that are out of

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<v Speaker 3>the state. So whether or not it's south of U

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<v Speaker 3>on I seventy five or the one on sixty five,

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<v Speaker 3>is Smith's over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Smith Grow Smith Smiths Grove. That's where that's where World

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<v Speaker 1>WIF found. Can I stop on our trips homes to

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<v Speaker 1>see Mom and Dad? We stop at the BUCkies now

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<v Speaker 1>there at Smith exit thirty eight, and it was all.

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<v Speaker 5>In Green Cave City, right in between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's It's Smith's Grove is right there on the

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<v Speaker 1>way to Bowling Green and it is. It's the most

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<v Speaker 1>amazing thing I've ever seen at a store gas stage,

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<v Speaker 1>the way they move traffic and people in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>And the tip is don't go in the first entrance.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of times two entrances there should be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so big, and never pick the first and everybody

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<v Speaker 3>wants to pull in the first. One tip for you

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<v Speaker 3>when you're driving, there's going to be a second entrance.

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<v Speaker 3>Go past those people. Look for the back way in.

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<v Speaker 3>It always works.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you live in the DC area or Virginia, is

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<v Speaker 2>that right?

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<v Speaker 3>I live in between Philadelphia and Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in that here, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of people in the summertime, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>here in summer vacation season. That's that's why you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the show to talk about some cool places to go

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<v Speaker 1>in the summertime. A lot of people go north because

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<v Speaker 1>the weather's nicer. I mean, it's if you're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to like, if you're gonna go to Maine. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>the only time to go would be summertime, wouldn't you agree?

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<v Speaker 3>That is definitely a thing that I do is that

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<v Speaker 3>if somebody will go out, well at the universe, it

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<v Speaker 3>is just open back on Thursday. You going, I said, well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll wait till it gets colder to go to Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to do as many things in the north.

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<v Speaker 3>These things are open, especially now for Memorial Day as

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<v Speaker 3>you get into the Labor Day, and then a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of these places are up and beyond that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And in Maine they have the new National Monument, Francis Perkins,

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<v Speaker 3>that has not even been open since it's become a

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<v Speaker 3>National Park site.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will head on up there.

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<v Speaker 3>If you remember when Forrest Gump was running across the

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<v Speaker 3>country and he said he runs the Pacific Ocean. When

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<v Speaker 3>he turns around and runs to the east, he runs

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<v Speaker 3>right in that same area.

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<v Speaker 2>That lighthouse that you see.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to it last year to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>go see it, and that's right near the Francis Perkins

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<v Speaker 3>National Monument, which is one of the new ones. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's a good reason to go to Maine a'l gonquit.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just I just I went all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>the top of Maine, and a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 3>go that far past Bangalore.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you go up into the very northern parts of.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, it's like going up in the northern minute snowda

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<v Speaker 3>and I see minue snowda.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not snow up there. Right now. You're usually good.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, Glacier National Park, you always have to wait

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<v Speaker 3>till closer to fourth of July till they can open

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<v Speaker 3>the going to the Sun road and you and again

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<v Speaker 3>you just can't go there and drive over. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure you go online and get your timed

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<v Speaker 3>entry to get over top of But going to the

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<v Speaker 3>Sun Road, there's the I'm Go'll tell you about a

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<v Speaker 3>great road, the Bear Tooth.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've never done the Bear Tooth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's between Yellowstone National Park and Montana and between there

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<v Speaker 3>and Billings and look for the bear Tooth. Everybody had

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<v Speaker 3>You see the bear Tooth. It's a mountain that looks

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<v Speaker 3>like a bear tooth. And then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>but you have to do it this time of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a highly recommend bar Tooth Highway, Wyoming, Montanna.

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<v Speaker 2>Look that one up. You know what I used to

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<v Speaker 1>Baraboo or Portage, Wisconsin. What can you tell me about

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<v Speaker 1>that area? Is it still a great destination for people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's growing. It's my photo op favorite place. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just went again last year and they're putting in the

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<v Speaker 1>brand new Mountain coastre. It's supposed to open here in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer of twenty twenty five, so it'll be in

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<v Speaker 1>that area. As you know, you go over to Baraboo

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the Ringling area. You have the whole circus world.

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<v Speaker 3>But you between those cities if you want water parks,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want especially Big Sheep one of the great

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<v Speaker 2>They started it out.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when I was living in Indiana back in

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<v Speaker 3>the nineties and I went over the head one and

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden it became a huge park. But

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<v Speaker 3>just the pictures that you can get taken in that area,

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<v Speaker 3>whether or not you want the giant horse, I mean Rome,

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<v Speaker 3>It'll looks like you're the Coliseum. They have just all

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<v Speaker 3>these co replatives they got. Remember the Sinclair Dinosaur, a

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<v Speaker 3>dinosaur that must be about twenty feet tall. It's on

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<v Speaker 3>the southeast side. As soon as the Eggs of nine

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<v Speaker 3>ninety four, you'll see that one. So yes, it's just growing.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's so many great shows. It's like Vision Forge.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they still have the Tommy Bartlett water Show? I

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<v Speaker 3>remember that as a I'm pretty sure they still have that.

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<v Speaker 3>I have never seen that, but I'll bet it's still there.

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<v Speaker 1>And Paul Paul bunyons for Breakfast with Babe the Blue Ox.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you familiar with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been in there, but I know that if

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<v Speaker 3>you go up in the north you get a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those statues.

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<v Speaker 3>There'll be so many Paul Bunions in the Blue Ox

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<v Speaker 3>and you'll just see those everywhere. It's such a big

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<v Speaker 3>part of It's a great place because if you're living.

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<v Speaker 5>Even in the Midwest, had on up to the up

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I travel, I'm always looking for the high

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<v Speaker 3>pressure system. So the way I love traveling is I

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<v Speaker 3>say I'm going to take off for a week, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll say where you go, and I say, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Let's see where the weather takes me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I look for the high pressure system because I

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<v Speaker 3>know all my pictures and I'm going to get some

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good blue sky weather. And then I find places

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<v Speaker 3>to stay along the way and I get good weather.

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<v Speaker 3>So you go where the weather's going to be good.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where I really try. I try to think about

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<v Speaker 3>a week and a half off and say, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>where's the high.

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<v Speaker 2>Pressure right now? Oh, on this day, it'll be this this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, if I hit here, I might be able to

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<v Speaker 3>go here, and I change my plans during the entire trip.

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<v Speaker 3>Not for everybody, but it is so much fun because

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know your destination. It sounds like a blast.

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<v Speaker 3>You look for dairy bars with good mill bars, is

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<v Speaker 3>what you're telling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a very good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know when you started, you talked about you

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<v Speaker 3>played Holiday Road from the movie Vacation. And if you've

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<v Speaker 3>never seen the family Truckster, they have one that's set

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<v Speaker 3>up and it's down in Trinidad, not on the island.

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<v Speaker 2>Trinidad is in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I twenty five, very southern Colorado, almost at the

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<v Speaker 3>New Mexico border, and they actually put Edna on top,

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<v Speaker 3>so it is it's a great photo op and that's

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<v Speaker 3>part of the road that they were really driving.

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<v Speaker 2>When they went out to Pagosa Springs.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can see a lot of the things along

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<v Speaker 1>It's note I really enjoy that it's not exactly a

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<v Speaker 1>summer destination. He would know it's a better weather in summer.

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<v Speaker 1>My birthtown of Mount Pleasant, Iowa. I think we may

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<v Speaker 1>have talked about this before. It's in Henry County, Iowa,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're in the southeast corner of the state, right

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<v Speaker 1>off Highway thirty four. If you go straight from Galesburg,

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois on thirty four, you'll hit Mount Pleasant and town

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<v Speaker 1>of about nine ten thousand people and every year they

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<v Speaker 1>have the Midwest Old Thrashers Reunion, which is an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>festival of old steam engines and farm equipment, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they have modern tractors and they have country music artists there.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got an old steam train that runs around the

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<v Speaker 1>entire fairgrounds that you can ride. I highly recommend that

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<v Speaker 1>for you for a future flash trip when the barometric

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<v Speaker 1>pressure is right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Burlington, the town right next to you as well.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a place called the Phelps House. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you can find the Pelps House, they have the Snake Alley.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're very familiar with a road that would

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<v Speaker 3>just like Lombard Street in San Francisco. It's just like it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's next to the Felps House and it's right there,

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes directly down almost towards the Mississippi River.

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<v Speaker 3>But look for Snake Alley if you're in Burlington, not

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<v Speaker 3>too far away from Gary Jeff's place of Mount Pleasant,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a lot of fun. Here's another way, and

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you know about this. In the Quad Cities

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<v Speaker 3>area on the north side, there's a town called Leclair.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other side, there's a place called Port Byron, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know that they play tugle war against each other? No,

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<v Speaker 3>this is one of the coolest things you look up

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<v Speaker 3>look up tugle war from from Leclaire in Iowa.

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<v Speaker 5>So imagine the people of Leclaire, Iowa.

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<v Speaker 3>They take a boat and they take the rope all

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<v Speaker 3>the way across the Illinois and the Port Byron. People

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<v Speaker 3>on each side are pulling on the rope, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>pull each other into the Mississippi River every years.

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<v Speaker 2>Real story.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta find out when that is, because the next

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<v Speaker 1>time I make a trip to Iowa, maybe this summer

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<v Speaker 1>will make a trip up to Leclair and Port Byron,

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<v Speaker 1>Port Byron and wats the I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm going to get involved. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to see it though. You know, speaking of the

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of the Mississippi River, there are so many cool

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<v Speaker 1>destinations and and it's you know, a day and a

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<v Speaker 1>half's drive from here, more than likely unless you're a

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<v Speaker 1>real dedicated traveler like a flash Phelps. The Mississippi River

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<v Speaker 1>is rife with all kinds of great destinations and locations

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<v Speaker 1>from the Tom Sawyer you know, Huck Finn, Hannibal and

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<v Speaker 1>that whole area. Any any recommendations along that trail, Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you can ride each side and they both are

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<v Speaker 3>marked with paddle wheels. So if you get the Mississippi River,

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<v Speaker 3>whether or not you're on the east side or west side,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see the paddle wheel trail and you can follow

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<v Speaker 3>along the river. One of my favorites. If you can

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<v Speaker 3>go up to northern Minnesota, you actually can see the

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<v Speaker 3>start of the Mississippi River. So you want to go

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<v Speaker 3>up to brain the brain Er Bamidgie area. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you're in Bamidgie here, I'll get the map out. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a point at for.

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<v Speaker 2>You as well. There's park rapids well as soon.

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<v Speaker 3>As you are here and you can actually go to

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<v Speaker 3>the very start of the Misissippi River. You can walk

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<v Speaker 3>through it because's only about a foot deep once it starts,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's one of the coolest things that you can

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<v Speaker 3>see up there in the midge and then make your

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<v Speaker 3>way down until it gets to the Twin Cities gets

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<v Speaker 3>wire and wider as you know. So that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Another great one is Mud Island in Memphis. If you

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<v Speaker 3>get the Memphis you walk over the bridge, you just

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<v Speaker 3>get on the Mud Island. That's where they have the

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<v Speaker 3>giant Memphis sign kind of like in Cincinnati, you know

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<v Speaker 3>the Queens City right there, a big li says Memphis

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<v Speaker 3>on Mud Island. But they have the lower part of

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<v Speaker 3>the Mississippi River, which would include everything from Missouri all

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<v Speaker 3>the way to the Gulf, and it would go all

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<v Speaker 3>the way down and you can do it, and they

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<v Speaker 3>raise and lower the water depending on where the Mississippi

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<v Speaker 3>is at that time. And right now, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been pretty high from all these rains. Well you

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<v Speaker 3>have flooding there in Cincinnati, didn't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we've had some flooding earlier in the year. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still dealing with the aftermath of the terrible, deadly

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<v Speaker 1>tornadoes that took place near London, Kentucky that claim me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one lives and you know they're by the way, quick,

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<v Speaker 1>quick chance for me to just once again plug Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five Ministries, which is located here in Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Ash and they have drops all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking for a number of items from anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>can bring them to these people who literally lost everything

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<v Speaker 1>in the twisters of last week in London, Kentucky and

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<v Speaker 1>Somerset area.

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<v Speaker 2>Just south of Lexington.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tell you what, Flash, If you'll hold on

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<v Speaker 1>a second, I want to do one more quick segment

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<v Speaker 1>with you. We're talking summer vacations and we're talking with

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate road warrior, Flash Phelps of sixties Gold. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's Memorial Day, so you know, let the vacations begin.

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<v Speaker 1>You're back the segment number two with the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only Flash Phelps, who is a serious XM personality on

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<v Speaker 1>sixties Gold. He's there and every morning you wake up

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere around the country and Flash probably close to your

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<v Speaker 1>neck of the woods because he puts so many miles

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<v Speaker 1>on the Flashmobile every year.

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<v Speaker 2>How many counties has it been?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>How many counties in the United States? And how many

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<v Speaker 1>do you lack on your list?

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<v Speaker 2>Flash?

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<v Speaker 5>I lacked less than or about two hundred right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, it's kind of cold because I have this running

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<v Speaker 3>count that goes on my list, and so I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to try to find out what the exact total is

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<v Speaker 3>for you, all right. So it's amazing because I keep

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<v Speaker 3>on trying to hit more and it just takes a while. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>here's my running total out of thirty one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>forty four counties in the United States, I've been in

425
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<v Speaker 3>twenty nine hundred and thirty two. There's only two hundred

426
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<v Speaker 3>and twelve. I've not been in the counties, which means

427
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<v Speaker 3>I've been in ninety three point three percent of all

428
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<v Speaker 3>of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And every state including Hawaii. Although he did not drive

430
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<v Speaker 1>to Hawaii. You have to fly Island Island.

431
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<v Speaker 3>There's five counties there, and they don't make it easy.

432
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<v Speaker 3>The great trips to take, and they it's hard to

433
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<v Speaker 3>get there. Now it's kala Waho County. That's the smallest

434
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<v Speaker 3>county in the entire United States. Very tough to get

435
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<v Speaker 3>there after we had the pandemic because that's if you

436
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<v Speaker 3>know the story about that's where it's called Hanson's disease. Yes,

437
00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:19.319
<v Speaker 3>and that's the that's the Kala Papa Peninsula and that's

438
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<v Speaker 3>the whole county. And to be able to get down there,

439
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<v Speaker 3>I walked all the way down. I got the way

440
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<v Speaker 3>to go down and do the whole tour, and you

441
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<v Speaker 3>can take the donkeys down, but once they open that

442
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<v Speaker 3>definitely take that tour.

443
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<v Speaker 5>So you can go to Kalauaho County on Hawaii.

444
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<v Speaker 1>It's on Molokai is where that is another place that

445
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<v Speaker 1>you can't get you by car on purpose is Alcatraz

446
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<v Speaker 1>Island and there has been talk of them renovating that

447
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<v Speaker 1>and turning it back into a prison. What is the

448
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<v Speaker 1>museum like at Alcatraz? You've been there that I have?

449
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<v Speaker 3>I did that only because every time I would look

450
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<v Speaker 3>over it, I said, Highland going to go. So it's

451
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<v Speaker 3>on my way down to American Samoa, and I said, okay,

452
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<v Speaker 3>seven San Francisco to be able to go. And I

453
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<v Speaker 3>wasn't able to get the first boat, but my I

454
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<v Speaker 3>highly recommend trying to get the first or second boat

455
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<v Speaker 3>because what happens is you can stay on the island

456
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<v Speaker 3>as long as you want. So once you get there,

457
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<v Speaker 3>people keep staying longer and longer. Every fifteen to twenty minutes,

458
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<v Speaker 3>there's another boat that's coming over Alcatraz, so it gives

459
00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.079
<v Speaker 3>crowded in credit a little more crowded every time. So

460
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<v Speaker 3>once you get to the island, I got a chance

461
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<v Speaker 3>to meet one of the former prisoners, so I talked

462
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<v Speaker 3>with him about what it was like.

463
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<v Speaker 2>And then they won't tell.

464
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<v Speaker 3>You a story about why he's there, but I looked

465
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<v Speaker 3>it up and he had a book to be able

466
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<v Speaker 3>to read, so you walk all the way up this hill.

467
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<v Speaker 3>You have to walk all the way up and you

468
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<v Speaker 3>get up to the museum and you start in where

469
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<v Speaker 3>they had the showers. That's your very first part where

470
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<v Speaker 3>you start. And they gave you headphones to put on,

471
00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:45.599
<v Speaker 3>so it was a self guide to tour. You'd walk around,

472
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<v Speaker 3>they would tell you that's what this is, that's what

473
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<v Speaker 3>this is, and you go through and you everybody wants

474
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<v Speaker 3>to see. I saw the movie Escape from Alcatraz, and

475
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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to see where the hole was behind that there,

476
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<v Speaker 3>And they actually have the paper mache head to show

477
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<v Speaker 3>you how it was made. And then they show you

478
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<v Speaker 3>how they got through the wall and climbed to the

479
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<v Speaker 3>very top and went off and down.

480
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<v Speaker 2>The side of the building.

481
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<v Speaker 3>And then they said, hey, everybody thinks we'll go to

482
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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco. It's closer to go to San Francisco on

483
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.079
<v Speaker 3>the south side. They decided they were going to try

484
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:15.400
<v Speaker 3>to make their way north to Angel Island. Nobody knows

485
00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 3>what ended up happening, but that it's beautiful to walk

486
00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:21.319
<v Speaker 3>that island and go out into the playground and walk

487
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<v Speaker 3>and just listen to the story.

488
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<v Speaker 2>But you can see how the walls are crowded.

489
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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how they would put that back

490
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<v Speaker 3>together to make it a prison, but it is such

491
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<v Speaker 3>a great tourist attraction.

492
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<v Speaker 2>Do it.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Make sure it's just one of those things you go

494
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<v Speaker 3>see sometime, because that was one of my favorite tours,

495
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<v Speaker 3>all right.

496
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<v Speaker 1>A very popular destination for people in this area in

497
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<v Speaker 1>the summertime, or you know, as long as the weather's good,

498
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<v Speaker 1>as long as they you know, have a high pressure front.

499
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<v Speaker 1>Is is put In Bay, Oh Yes, and yeah, I've.

500
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<v Speaker 3>Been three three times. I took the high speed ferry

501
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<v Speaker 3>twice to go over put In Bay. So if you're

502
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<v Speaker 3>not familiar with it, the Ohio Islands on the north

503
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 3>part of Ohio, right off of Sandusky, there's Port Clinton

504
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.599
<v Speaker 3>and you can then lead from there the high speed

505
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<v Speaker 3>Well you can't take your car that way, but you

506
00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:12.079
<v Speaker 3>can get over there very quick. It'll take you right

507
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 3>into downtown put In Bay. If you take your car over,

508
00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:17.640
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna go over. And that was fun. I did

509
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:19.400
<v Speaker 3>that too, and I drove around the island, but I

510
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:21.759
<v Speaker 3>made sure I did that off season. I did that

511
00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:25.039
<v Speaker 3>in October and it was a little easier to drive around,

512
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:27.839
<v Speaker 3>but to be able to go over and just hang

513
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<v Speaker 3>out on that island.

514
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<v Speaker 2>I had a really good time.

515
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<v Speaker 3>That's the only one into the Kelly Island and all

516
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<v Speaker 3>the different ones. But put in Bay, I had a

517
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 3>fantastic time. You can walk a lot of that island

518
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<v Speaker 3>as well.

519
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<v Speaker 1>It's a home home to the world's the world's biggest bar,

520
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the world's longest bar.

521
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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to the war?

522
00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.720
<v Speaker 3>All right, it's right in downtown on that little square

523
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:49.960
<v Speaker 3>and you can walk in and you can see that.

524
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:51.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's there's some really cool things.

525
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<v Speaker 3>And if you know down at Key West they have

526
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<v Speaker 3>the pylon that says how far you are from Cuba,

527
00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Well they have one there that says how far you

528
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<v Speaker 3>are from the Canada or which is only a couple

529
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<v Speaker 3>of miles.

530
00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Our cell phones now, listen, when we went, our cell

531
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>phones connected to Rogers told yeah, our cell phones told

532
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>us that we were now in Canada when we were

533
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>on the boat.

534
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:18.599
<v Speaker 2>And I'm going, We're not in Canada.

535
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<v Speaker 6>We're in the United States.

536
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<v Speaker 2>No, we were in Canada for a brief time. Thank god.

537
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:30.839
<v Speaker 1>There were no customs agents or guards there right exactly. Now,

538
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>tell me about cool places in Pennsylvania. I want to know,

539
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:37.559
<v Speaker 1>because I am a huge and it's this sounds like

540
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm a relic from another age, which I probably am

541
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:45.279
<v Speaker 1>becoming very quickly a huge fan of the late great

542
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>American actor Jimmy Stewart. Tell me about India, Indiana, Pennsylvania

543
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.279
<v Speaker 1>and the Jimmy Stewart Museum, And have you been there?

544
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I went over. They have the statue. Actually

545
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 3>isn't in front of the museum, it's right in front

546
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 3>of the courthouse, which is right next door. So you

547
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:01.680
<v Speaker 3>get your Jimmy Stewart picture and then you head next

548
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 3>door into the museum. So if you are a big

549
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 3>fan of Jimmy Stort, you'd want to be there in Indiana.

550
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to give you another cool thing because

551
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:10.319
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to go there. On February of the

552
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:14.599
<v Speaker 3>second honks a Tawny Pennsylvania year round. That's just right

553
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.000
<v Speaker 3>near Indiana. You're not that far away. Make sure you

554
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 3>do both and hit that one as well. And since

555
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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be out in western Pennsylvania, always highly

556
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 3>recommend the Flight ninety three Memorial. We all pretty much

557
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:28.039
<v Speaker 3>lived through ninety eleven and we know what happened right

558
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 3>out there at Shanksville, Pennsylvania. They a year after year

559
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:34.440
<v Speaker 3>they've made that an incredible sight. So the Flight ninety

560
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 3>three National Memorial, So we're seeing Alleghany Portage, which is

561
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:39.759
<v Speaker 3>out there.

562
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 2>That's for the railroad.

563
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.319
<v Speaker 3>The Altuna Curve not only the name of their baseball team,

564
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 3>but it's a real curve for the train line and

565
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.160
<v Speaker 3>you can stand there and the train will curve around

566
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 3>you if you stand there and know when the trains

567
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 3>are coming by. That the Kinzu Bridge up in the

568
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.279
<v Speaker 3>very northern parts, up in the Alleghany National Forest. And

569
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I was lucky enough because there's a Woodstock mural. So

570
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 3>if you're into the sixties and you love Woodstock, they

571
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 3>did this really cool mural. And Bradford, Pennsylvania, which is

572
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.960
<v Speaker 3>also the home of Zippo lighters in the Zippo Museum

573
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 3>really cool. So if you go into downtown they have

574
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 3>all these murals. Well, I started talking about them so

575
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>much on the air. I got a call one day

576
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 3>that said, Flash, we made a mural of you and

577
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 3>it's next to the Woodstock mural. So if you Google

578
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 3>map or Ways and type in my name Flash Phelps

579
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<v Speaker 3>p H l A S H p H E L

580
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<v Speaker 3>P S it'll come up on your Google Maps or

581
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 3>your ways flash Melps Mural, Bradford, Pennsylvania Main Street. And

582
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 3>it's right next to the Woodstock Mural. So and if

583
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 3>you do a selfie of yourself with it, send it

584
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 3>to me.

585
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm posting it.

586
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, you obviously are pH a m o us.

587
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:52.640
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny they label it on Google Maps is

588
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 3>historical site?

589
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:55.039
<v Speaker 6>Right?

590
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 2>How did my how did my mural become a historical site?

591
00:28:58.519 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But then I don't know who.

592
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Labels these things, but I was honored to be able

593
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 3>to When I got that message, they said, if you

594
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 3>don't like it, we'll get rid of it and paint over.

595
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 2>I said no, no, I said no, I got come

596
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>see it.

597
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Google Maps, speaking of Google Maps and you

598
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 1>traveling and using those flash phelps. Have you been to

599
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 1>the Gulf of America since it was renamed? And I

600
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 1>wonder if it's any different than the Gulf of Mexico.

601
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any difference. I went out.

602
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even see a sign that said but I

603
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>heard in some places you could find the sign, but

604
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I did.

605
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 5>I drove around it.

606
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>You know what I did.

607
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 5>I just went down to Florida back in February.

608
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:35.119
<v Speaker 3>So as soon as I went out, I went to

609
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 3>cedar Key, so you're right on the golf and there

610
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:40.680
<v Speaker 3>was a lot of hurricane damage in the area, but

611
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.000
<v Speaker 3>that was beautiful and I drove all the way frond

612
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 3>Us nineteen. You go up through the Swanee River and

613
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:48.039
<v Speaker 3>you can see where Swannee River is, and then you

614
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.000
<v Speaker 3>loop around Apple at Chicola. So you always hear about

615
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 3>these places in September and August, especially when it's the

616
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 3>hurricane season. But if you loop all around, you can

617
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:58.400
<v Speaker 3>drive the water. And if you get right out to

618
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 3>the timeline where Eastern hits Central timeline, they have a

619
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 3>chair that's sitting right there on the Gulf and it's

620
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<v Speaker 3>you can be half an Eastern and half in Central

621
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<v Speaker 3>for your photo off. It is right near Mexico Beach,

622
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 3>so go to Mexico Beach in Florida. They were hit

623
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 3>happily by a hurricane number of years ago and they're

624
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 3>still recovering and that helps.

625
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.359
<v Speaker 2>And that's right before you would get to Panama City.

626
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 3>But that's a fun photo op the half and half

627
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Eastern and Central time giant chair.

628
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<v Speaker 1>What would you recommend in Upstate New York besides Niagara Fords.

629
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I the Adirondack Park.

630
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.680
<v Speaker 5>Definitely, the Lake Placid area.

631
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<v Speaker 3>Anytime you can go and do that and uh oh gosh,

632
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and the island to Heart Island. Look up Heart Island

633
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 3>and this is in the one thousand a thousand Islands areas,

634
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 3>so you get to go north of Watertown and as

635
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 3>soon as you get up there, you're your Kingston, Ontario.

636
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<v Speaker 3>So the northeast side of Lake Ontario thousand Islands. Look

637
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<v Speaker 3>for Heart Island and you can take a phoat of

638
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 3>onto that island and just check out the mansion that

639
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:05.480
<v Speaker 3>is on that island. It was I've got some of

640
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<v Speaker 3>the greatest photo ops. But anything inside the Adirondack Park,

641
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I call there. The Adirondack Park

642
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 3>is just really incredible. From Lake Placid and Saranac. I

643
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 3>had such a great time driving that area. Well, there's

644
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.680
<v Speaker 3>a lot to see up there, You're right, I like

645
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<v Speaker 3>going to say, I'm a big roller coaster rider, so

646
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 3>if I'm not going to King's Island, I'm trying to

647
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<v Speaker 3>find all the coasters all over the country, especially this

648
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<v Speaker 3>time of the year while they're open.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I have a suggestion for you if you've never

650
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<v Speaker 1>been to Waldo, Ohio.

651
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I've only been see.

652
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 3>I haven't been to Waldo, Ohio, but I did go

653
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<v Speaker 3>to Waldo, Arkansas.

654
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<v Speaker 2>So I do have a picture at Waldo, Arkansas. Since

655
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of them. I wonder how many cities

656
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<v Speaker 2>there are in America with the name Waldo.

657
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 3>And that's one nice thing. Would I have a list

658
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 3>of all of them? I can usually look them all up?

659
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 3>And that's how I play. I played this game City

660
00:31:57.960 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 3>of the Day, and then I al always have to

661
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<v Speaker 3>find out how many cities have a certain name, And

662
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<v Speaker 3>then I can find out quickly by looking up so

663
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<v Speaker 3>w A L d oh, how many Waldo's are there?

664
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<v Speaker 3>And then I see it and go, okay, here's your answer. Alabama, Wisconsin, Missouri, Kansas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Missouri, Minnesota,

665
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 3>there's Ohio, Florida, Kentucky, Maine, California. They all have places

666
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>called Waldo. So how cool is that? I'm glad my

667
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<v Speaker 3>database searches that quick.

668
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, here here's another question. How many places

669
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<v Speaker 1>in the country are named Utopia. We have one in

670
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<v Speaker 1>Ohio in Claremont County. And I was telling my wife.

671
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, we're nowhere right now, because that's

672
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<v Speaker 1>the true meaning of utopia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh, go ahead. Where is it? Where's Utopia?

674
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<v Speaker 1>It's right between It's right at the edge of Clearmont

675
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>County going into Brown County on Highway fifty two in Ohio,

676
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>right along the river.

677
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Is that right? Okay, here's your answer.

678
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Florida, Illinois, Kansas, New York, Alhio, the one you mentioned,

679
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Texas and New South Wales Australia have places named utopia.

680
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<v Speaker 2>So there's your answer for.

681
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 1>The translation that the translation is exactly nowhere. And of course,

682
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>there was an old joke about about the town of Climax,

683
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 1>and apparently apparently you have to in one state to

684
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>get to Climax. You have got them. You've got to

685
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>first go through intercourse to get to climb.

686
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<v Speaker 5>Here in Pennsylvania, you're in Lancaster area.

687
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there's yes, and there's blue Ball as well

688
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 3>right next.

689
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 2>To that as well. Well. We have that is so true.

690
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.759
<v Speaker 2>We have a we have a sugar tit in Kentucky.

691
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<v Speaker 2>We do. Absolutely.

692
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<v Speaker 3>It is just amazing some of the names of the

693
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 3>places that you find, and that's what makes it fun

694
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 3>when you go around and the photo ops. Please get

695
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 3>all these photo ops you can get when you see

696
00:33:58.359 --> 00:33:59.039
<v Speaker 3>these places.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you that's something that you chronicle very well.

698
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<v Speaker 1>I've seen some of the photos that you've taken on

699
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the website and yeah, you follow.

700
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Flash OLPs, Bunty Farm all with phs.

701
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<v Speaker 3>You can see and go back and look at all

702
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 3>these different pictures I've taken to show America. And you say, well,

703
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to North Dakota. We'll go to my North

704
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 3>Dakota photo the folder and you can see a lot

705
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 3>of pictures. Or I have a really cool video I

706
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 3>did and it's of all fifty states. I went to

707
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 3>all fifty I did it decided in one year, so

708
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:31.239
<v Speaker 3>I made a video.

709
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<v Speaker 2>It's about twelve minutes, but.

710
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Every picture is labeled from every state and if you

711
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 3>look up, it's called all fifty at fifty flash Phelps

712
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.079
<v Speaker 3>and it's on you can just search that watch that

713
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.119
<v Speaker 3>video and just keep on hitting pause and look at

714
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.400
<v Speaker 3>all the different places that I labeled with it. Just

715
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 3>by nine hundred photos of America. What's the weirdest town

716
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 3>name you can think of that you've seen? Oh, the

717
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:57.119
<v Speaker 3>weirdest town name I like Center of the Universe. That's

718
00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 3>a good one. That's there in Ohio. There's some really

719
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 3>fun ones. I should have looked up by all my

720
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 3>fun name cities that that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's all right, Okay.

722
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>We just said we were going to get together and

723
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 1>talk about traveling, and I didn't.

724
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>What did you? What do you most?

725
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>What's the hardest part of traveling to all these places?

726
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Because I know that you have a ball doing it,

727
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and I know it's something that's a passion of yours

728
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and has been for many, many years, But there's got

729
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 1>to be something that just frustrates you to no end

730
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and you go, God, was it really worth it?

731
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

732
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's the price, and then by the time you

733
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 3>get there and it's like, oh my god, sorry, how

734
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 3>much is this gonna cost for me?

735
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<v Speaker 2>Number onse it the cast. I'm glad. I get forty.

736
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Five plus miles down when I'm doing these drives, so

737
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 3>that really helps me out.

738
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:51.119
<v Speaker 2>So I love that the vehicle does that, and I'm

739
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:52.639
<v Speaker 2>getting so many miles doing that.

740
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:55.079
<v Speaker 3>The car almost says four hundred thousand miles on it

741
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 3>and it's a twenty eighteen.

742
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 2>I got it in August of twenty eighteen.

743
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:03.400
<v Speaker 3>I average about sixty miles a year, so and that's

744
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 3>that's the good part about it. I just it's the

745
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 3>time sometimes where you'll go, man, I got to get

746
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 3>this place, but they're going to close at a certain time.

747
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 3>And then sometimes you miss certain places due to how

748
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 3>long it'll take you to get there, or backed up

749
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 3>trackic there's certain things. But other than that, I just

750
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 3>that's why I like winging it, because if you do

751
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 3>wing it, you'll go, well, I'll just do that next trip.

752
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.559
<v Speaker 5>And what I do this is a really cool thing.

753
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 5>I have a map of the entire.

754
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Us on my phone, and then what I do is

755
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 3>if I find some somebody will say, oh, did you

756
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 3>know that there's utopia Ohio. Oh, let me go find it,

757
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 3>and I put a pin on my map. So then

758
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 3>when I'm close to the area, I start looking at

759
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:42.679
<v Speaker 3>the pins.

760
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:43.480
<v Speaker 2>What did I mark?

761
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 3>And some of them I've forgotten, and I'll go, oh,

762
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 3>I forgot that was there. Let me go over to

763
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 3>that place right now. Always keep pins in your map,

764
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 3>or keep.

765
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>This up, pay for map right here. I got my

766
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 2>right here, So I make sure I do it.

767
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 3>I mark things and circle it and a lot of

768
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 3>people just want to do it on their computers now.

769
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<v Speaker 2>But I like having the physical math flash Phelps. I

770
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 2>loved having you again tonight as a guest. Thank you

771
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 2>so much.

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<v Speaker 1>We're out of time, but say save travels and thank

773
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you thanks for the help.

774
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 2>All right, you got it, all right? Have you travels

775
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>here for the Memorial Day weekend?

776
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, seven hundred WLW Memorial Day celebrate.

777
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<v Speaker 2>As I like to say, his pappy was a pistol.

778
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a son of a gun, the author of the

779
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Good Gun, Bad Guy series of books, and a spokesperson

780
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.519
<v Speaker 1>for your and my and his Second Amendment rights codified

781
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and guaranteed in the Constitution as a right and inalienable

782
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 1>right given to us by our creator, the one, the

783
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 1>only Dan was who was traveling somewhere in Florida.

784
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Dan, how are you hey?

785
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 7>Good Garry Jeff, thanks for having me on the show.

786
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.920
<v Speaker 7>And I've been referred to as a son of something,

787
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.360
<v Speaker 7>but not a son of a on there's usually another word.

788
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<v Speaker 7>So thank you, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're you're quite welcome. So what are you doing

790
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 1>in Florida? You're running guns?

791
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:13.239
<v Speaker 4>Well, I did.

792
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 7>No no gun running today. I did an event for

793
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 7>so the Second Ament of Freedom Freedom Rally.

794
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 6>Okay, and that was in.

795
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:31.519
<v Speaker 7>That was in Summerfield. Summerfield, yep. And now we're so

796
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 7>I spoke at that event, we did I did a

797
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 7>book signing, and now we're headed to Tampa and we're

798
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 7>going to try to hopefully get a nice day on

799
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<v Speaker 7>the beach. I don't know, it seems like it's still

800
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 7>going to be kind of cold here in Florida, but uh,

801
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 7>just vacationing now for the next few.

802
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Days, just to make us jealous, sunning on the beach.

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00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, Dan, you just attended the Second Amendment

804
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 1>rally that you were talking about speaking there, and you

805
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.639
<v Speaker 1>go to a lot of these around the country. It's

806
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<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of escapes my memory. Has there ever

807
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.559
<v Speaker 1>been a mass shooting at a rally like that of

808
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<v Speaker 1>Second Amendment gun loving, god fearing Americans.

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00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't think they're you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know, no, no one of the things that I say,

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<v Speaker 7>because I, like I said, I speak at all the

812
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:26.079
<v Speaker 7>big events like the Goals event. Second Amendment Foundation has

813
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 7>their their big event, and so I speak at a

814
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 7>lot of these big un rights events, and I sometimes

815
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.079
<v Speaker 7>will get on stage and say, welcome to the safest

816
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 7>place in the in the country. Because that's exactly what

817
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.159
<v Speaker 7>it is. With all those gun owners there, you are

818
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 7>actually in the safest place because a mass shooting or

819
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<v Speaker 7>anything like that will will never happen. And if, if anything,

820
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:56.119
<v Speaker 7>if anybody had the the the uh you know, the

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<v Speaker 7>the I don't know, I don't know what you call it,

822
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:02.599
<v Speaker 7>the golf to do it, they would be stopped rather quickly.

823
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, no, no, no doubt.

824
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<v Speaker 1>I mean you you may, you may pop off one round,

825
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>but then you've got about one hundred guns pointed right

826
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<v Speaker 1>at you making sure that the threat is vanquished.

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00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, And Robert, Robert Highland said it, he said, you

829
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 7>know what was his uh what was his quote? An

830
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 7>armed society is a polite society. Sure, and that's really true.

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<v Speaker 2>All right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a push and we had Savannah Maddis on

833
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>earlier tonight who's a Kentucky legislator in the state House,

834
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<v Speaker 1>and she is pushing for constitutional carry for eighteen year

835
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<v Speaker 1>olds in the Commonwealth of Kentucky and also against the

836
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<v Speaker 1>red flag laws that continue to circulate through the legislators

837
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<v Speaker 1>around the country in different states, depending on where you're at.

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<v Speaker 1>That gets a lot of traction in Kentucky. Hopefully prayer

839
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<v Speaker 1>for Lly not. But again we've talked about this many

840
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>times before, Dan, but explain a red flag law so

841
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>people aren't misled and think that this is something that

842
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:19.119
<v Speaker 1>could stop someone who shouldn't have a gun from owning

843
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.800
<v Speaker 1>one and using it. Well, why are red flag laws

844
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.760
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know, misdirected.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, they're probably twenty some state eighteen nineteen twenty state

846
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 7>something like that who have these red flag laws. What

847
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 7>they're called, what they're called extreme risk protection orders. So

848
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<v Speaker 7>they name them that because they want you to think that,

849
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 7>you know, if you're under if you're under extreme risk

850
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:49.280
<v Speaker 7>by these dangerous gun owners, and the protection orders there

851
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.800
<v Speaker 7>to help keep you safe. You know, the politicians want

852
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 7>to make sure that everybody that they're keeping everybody safe.

853
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:57.559
<v Speaker 7>What it really is, we call them red flag laws,

854
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.639
<v Speaker 7>and what it really is is a gun compassation without

855
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.320
<v Speaker 7>due process. So a judge can sign off on the

856
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 7>confiscation of someone's guns, and most often based on nothing

857
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.800
<v Speaker 7>more than an accusation. And sometimes they can be anonymous

858
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 7>accusations where you know, somebody can deem you a threat

859
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:23.840
<v Speaker 7>to society, and cops judge and sign off. Cops and

860
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 7>come in and take your guns and figure it out later.

861
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't. They don't have to. They don't.

862
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 1>They don't have to prove or provide any evidence that

863
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you are a threat to anyone, just as hearsay. If

864
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you've got a neighbor who doesn't particularly like the way

865
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you mow your lawn and he knows you've got guns,

866
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 1>he could report you in these states that you are

867
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:46.760
<v Speaker 1>threatening him and that you have guns, and they can

868
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:49.599
<v Speaker 1>come out and confiscate your guns without any hearing or anything.

869
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got to go after the fact to

870
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:56.079
<v Speaker 1>prove your innocent, which is a violation of your rights

871
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:59.079
<v Speaker 1>in this country. As I understand it, You're you're innocent

872
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:03.639
<v Speaker 1>until proven guilty. But this makes someone guilty without any

873
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>proof at all.

874
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

875
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's not only a violation of your Second Amendment,

876
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 7>it's a violation of your Fourth Amendment and your fourteenth Amendment.

877
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:17.199
<v Speaker 7>You know, no do process and then illegal teachers, search

878
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:21.159
<v Speaker 7>and seizure. So yeah, so it's it's terrible. And then

879
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 7>what's the Democrats really They would love to have a

880
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 7>national red flag law. We've managed to keep them keep

881
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 7>them at bay for now, but they would love to

882
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 7>have a national red flag law and UH serialization and

883
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:38.960
<v Speaker 7>registration of all firearms, which is what they use the

884
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 7>ghost guns scared to try to do, try to scare

885
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 7>everybody into thinking that they need to support serialization. But

886
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.360
<v Speaker 7>serialization has been you know, the homemade firearms has been

887
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 7>a national tradition since our founding, and there's no U

888
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:00.719
<v Speaker 7>be serialized and everybody's numbers, everybody's guns serial numbers so

889
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.239
<v Speaker 7>you can track them. They would love to have those

890
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:07.039
<v Speaker 7>two in place, so you could accompiscate the guns through

891
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:11.280
<v Speaker 7>red flag laws and UH be able to track them

892
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:16.000
<v Speaker 7>down and locate them through the through the serialization and registration.

893
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Are there any new laws that you and your your

894
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>folks think are especially heinous that have come on the

895
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>books this year around the country. Have you been looking

896
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>at the new gun laws, because there are I know

897
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:34.280
<v Speaker 1>a guy who puts out an annual book every January

898
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and list the new gun laws in every state. I

899
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know why we need more gun laws, but apparently

900
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:44.039
<v Speaker 1>some legislators think we do.

901
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:44.800
<v Speaker 6>UH.

902
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you know that's cropped up that makes

903
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 1>you go, well, somebody's got to stop that. What's going

904
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 1>on in your home state of New York?

905
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.360
<v Speaker 7>Well, New York recently took not too long ago, took

906
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:05.440
<v Speaker 7>the firearm background check from the federal government, which is

907
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:09.159
<v Speaker 7>where it was protected, your information was protected from being

908
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:12.320
<v Speaker 7>put on a gun registry. Well, New York State Kathy

909
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 7>Hocheld decided that she wanted to take that background check

910
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.559
<v Speaker 7>in house to the state Police Department, where there's no

911
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.760
<v Speaker 7>controls over what they do with that list of gun owners.

912
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.079
<v Speaker 7>So we can only assume that she is collecting creating

913
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 7>a gun registry in the state of New York. Not

914
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 7>only that, while taking that the firearm background checks in

915
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 7>house to the state Police Department, also created an ammunition

916
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:45.199
<v Speaker 7>background check. So you go and buy a bullet and

917
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 7>you're going to be put on a list in New York.

918
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:52.519
<v Speaker 7>So we're fighting against that stuff. Joe Biden encouraged the

919
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.039
<v Speaker 7>ATF to create what's called a zero tolerance policy, which

920
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:05.320
<v Speaker 7>means that gunailers, you know, firearm retailers, it's the slightest

921
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 7>mistake on paperwork and they could get their license to

922
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:12.880
<v Speaker 7>sell revoked. So that was the zero colonist policy. Now

923
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 7>we've got new people in Trump's cabinet, and we've got

924
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 7>new people in these organizations, these agencies, and we're starting

925
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.960
<v Speaker 7>to turn some of that stuff around. So I think

926
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.880
<v Speaker 7>a GPAM BONDI is going to do some pretty good

927
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:31.320
<v Speaker 7>stuff reorganizing and getting rid of some of the gun

928
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 7>grabbers out of the APF.

929
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, freedom is not free, and we must maintain our liberty, Dan,

930
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:44.559
<v Speaker 1>at all costs, and the Second Amendment of our Constitution

931
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and the Bill of Rights is a big part of

932
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.039
<v Speaker 1>that liberty. It's a big part of why this country

933
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>even exists. And I'm glad that you're fighting a good

934
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>fight every day out.

935
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 7>Well, I think it's the most important one because with

936
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:04.239
<v Speaker 7>that out our guns, we don't have anything. We don't

937
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.599
<v Speaker 7>have any freedoms, and that's the only thing that keeps

938
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 7>these keeps these tyrants under control, and they we have

939
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:13.840
<v Speaker 7>to remind them who they work for. And our Second

940
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 7>Amendment was designed to specifically do that.

941
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it ain't about deer hunting, but that's a nice

942
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>byproduct for a lot of people. Thank you so much,

943
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.760
<v Speaker 1>good gun bad Guy dot com. Check him out there

944
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:34.039
<v Speaker 1>and on YouTube, loaded mic podcasts and the other things

945
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>that Dan is maybe coming to a city near you,

946
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:41.079
<v Speaker 1>which that rally will be the safest place you can

947
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>be in that city.

948
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.559
<v Speaker 2>I guarantee it. Thank you, Dan, take care.

949
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 8>Thanks Thanks Bob, you got it.

950
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:51.559
<v Speaker 1>It's the nightcap and we're rolling. Let's keep it going.

951
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Seven hunderd WLW favorite people on the telephone to spend

952
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:58.519
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of time with us on this special

953
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:04.039
<v Speaker 1>holiday nightcap, Gary Jeff with Peter Bronson for this half

954
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 1>hour on seven hundred WLW PTE been a long time.

955
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you made time for us on this

956
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:15.599
<v Speaker 1>very important holiday in American history. And I want to

957
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 1>start by saying hello, Hello, Hello, and then it's great

958
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>to have you, and also by talking about your thoughts

959
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 1>as a man who's written a lot of books about history,

960
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:35.039
<v Speaker 1>primarily local history of Promised Land and the Man who

961
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Saved Cincinnati, and then the other books about later on

962
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in this area was developing and forming and things that

963
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 1>were going on in Cincinnati and around the area. But

964
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day is of course a day set aside to

965
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 1>remember those who literally gave their all for their country,

966
00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>for their fellow man. There's no greater thing than to

967
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.519
<v Speaker 1>laid down your life for another man, for your brother.

968
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:09.440
<v Speaker 1>But it is so overlooked, and you know, I'm not

969
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>decrying the obvious.

970
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess I am.

971
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:18.719
<v Speaker 1>But in that do people still grasp the significance of

972
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 1>this holiday, Peter or this remembrance.

973
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>That's a great question. I think less and less.

974
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:29.000
<v Speaker 4>I think that our generation, yours and mine, are the

975
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 4>last generation that grew up with the greatest generation as

976
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 4>our parents. And we know these stories because many of

977
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 4>them were shared with us by uncles and fathers and

978
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.280
<v Speaker 4>maybe grandfathers who served in the first the Great War

979
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 4>of World War One. But this was the family tales

980
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 4>and folk history that was passed on to us that

981
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:57.239
<v Speaker 4>gave us such a great appreciation of what was accomplished

982
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:02.199
<v Speaker 4>in World War Two. Especially as the baby boomers age

983
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 4>and move on, we don't have many around anymore who

984
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 4>are really have that connection. And maybe one of the

985
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:12.800
<v Speaker 4>biggest reasons we've lost that connection is because we went

986
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 4>to the all volunteer army, and people from all walks

987
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 4>of life do not serve anymore the way they used

988
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:24.119
<v Speaker 4>to when we had the draft, and you know that

989
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:28.920
<v Speaker 4>there's not that connection to the military, to the men

990
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 4>who served. The whole purpose and meaning of that. I

991
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 4>think a lot of that's been lost.

992
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of your focus probably was reaffirmed

993
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:41.159
<v Speaker 1>when you were the years you worked with the Honor

994
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 1>Flight here in the Tri State.

995
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, absolutely. The first thing I thought of when

996
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:49.280
<v Speaker 4>you brought up this question was the Honor Flight books

997
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:53.199
<v Speaker 4>that I worked on with Cheryl pop and Honor Flight

998
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Try State, Because well, I went along on the Honor flights.

999
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:02.159
<v Speaker 4>We collected stories from local veterans, many of whom I

1000
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 4>are well known in our community, and many others who

1001
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.480
<v Speaker 4>were never known that well in our community, but who

1002
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 4>had unbelievable stories to tell about their service in World

1003
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:16.320
<v Speaker 4>War Two in the Pacific and the Atlantic theaters. Many

1004
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 4>of them were telling stories about landing on Normandy Beach

1005
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:24.239
<v Speaker 4>and D Day. Others talked about fighting on Guattalcanal. The

1006
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 4>things that they went through and the victories they won.

1007
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 4>For our way of life today and the freedom that

1008
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 4>we enjoy is just it's something everybody should read. And

1009
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:36.239
<v Speaker 4>those first person stories are really gripping.

1010
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks to you.

1011
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I have the books, and you're right, and there were

1012
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:47.400
<v Speaker 1>passages as I was reading them the tears just started

1013
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to well up in my eyes. Yeah, and I was like, Okay,

1014
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I really want to read on here, but I need

1015
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to like get myself together because everything's out of focus

1016
00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>for a second. It was just that gripping and that

1017
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 1>impactful for me, not being you know, anyone who had

1018
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:11.519
<v Speaker 1>a direct connection except my freedom to World War Two

1019
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and the veterans that you were taking to Washington, d c.

1020
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 1>To honor them for their service. But you think about

1021
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 1>all of the ones and they tell the tales of

1022
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the men that they served with, the women and men

1023
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 1>they served with that did not come back, and we're

1024
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:32.519
<v Speaker 1>not allied to bring that history to the next generation.

1025
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And I think that is part of what's being lost.

1026
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 1>As you mentioned the Baby Boom generation aging out and

1027
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:46.039
<v Speaker 1>passing on. Are we not passing on enough of this

1028
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:50.559
<v Speaker 1>to today's generation? Is that the problem is part of

1029
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the problem on our shoulders, that we don't emphasize this enough,

1030
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>the sacrifice that has been made.

1031
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

1032
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.519
<v Speaker 4>I think that there's there has been a problem, and

1033
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:08.079
<v Speaker 4>it started really with our generation when we had the

1034
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:14.599
<v Speaker 4>draft resistance. As a young nineteen year old who was eighteen,

1035
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 4>nineteen year old, who was under threat of being drafted,

1036
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:18.800
<v Speaker 4>I was certainly a.

1037
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Part of that.

1038
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.159
<v Speaker 4>I resisted the draft, not in the way that I

1039
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:25.119
<v Speaker 4>refused to go, but I was fortunate to get a

1040
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 4>high lottery number, but a lot of my friends and

1041
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:32.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot of my age group, in our generation, we

1042
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:40.320
<v Speaker 4>were the break that it stopped being willing in many cases,

1043
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:42.920
<v Speaker 4>not across the board, because so many of our generation

1044
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:45.760
<v Speaker 4>also served with honor, but there were so many of

1045
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.800
<v Speaker 4>us who who really refused and wouldn't go, and that

1046
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:55.199
<v Speaker 4>really signaled it a real change, a cultural change in

1047
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:59.679
<v Speaker 4>our country. And when I look at what those veterans

1048
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.480
<v Speaker 4>of world or to the stories they tell when they

1049
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.559
<v Speaker 4>get together are completely different than what they've ever told

1050
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 4>their families or in most cases anyone else. Because the

1051
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:11.519
<v Speaker 4>only people that really understand what they're talking about our

1052
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:14.280
<v Speaker 4>other veterans who were there, and when they get together,

1053
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:17.920
<v Speaker 4>the stories start to flow and they're just amazing. And

1054
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 4>they had a feeling of honor and brotherhood sacrifice that

1055
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:25.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't think most of us can even understand anymore

1056
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.199
<v Speaker 4>unless we've had the privilege of serving like they didn't.

1057
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, And I'm just a little bit younger than you,

1058
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<v Speaker 1>and I'm even further removed from that feeling of, you know, service,

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00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:42.119
<v Speaker 1>like it's my obligation as a citizen to do this.

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00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Vietnam was over by the time I was eighteen, and

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00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.719
<v Speaker 1>out of high school in nineteen seventy nine, they weren't

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00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:53.199
<v Speaker 1>actively drafting people anymore. Of course, I registered for Selective Service,

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00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.639
<v Speaker 1>but never got called, and I never thought twice about

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00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>actually volunteering to serve, partly because of the stigma, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess of that draft dodge or era and the draft

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00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:10.039
<v Speaker 1>resistance era and the Vietnam War that i'd grown up

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<v Speaker 1>watching on television and going on. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to be a part of this. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I look back in retrospect, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I really miss something in my formative years as an

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00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:26.159
<v Speaker 1>American by not volunteering to be in one of the

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00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:32.320
<v Speaker 1>services and and spending some time beside my out of

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00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:37.119
<v Speaker 1>myself for for our country. I think it's more important

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00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>now to me than ever. And and you know, I

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00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 1>want to do whatever I can to help our nation

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00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>out if there's any sacrifice I can make. But this

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00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 1>today is about the people who made the ultimate sacrifice, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and it's it's up to us to tell

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<v Speaker 1>their tale since they can aunt.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know the point that you may a point

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<v Speaker 4>I thought was very interesting, which is that that the

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00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:08.239
<v Speaker 4>Vietnam generation, the men who did serve with Gallar and

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00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 4>Vietnam were really the most unfortunate because they were denied

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00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 4>that feeling of appreciation, the celebration of the returning hero.

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<v Speaker 2>The pete I had.

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00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I had a Vietnam vet tell me once many years ago,

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00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:26.599
<v Speaker 1>he said, don't ever say thank you for your service,

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00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:27.880
<v Speaker 1>just say welcome home.

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<v Speaker 6>Ed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And every time I encounter.

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00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:34.760
<v Speaker 1>A Vietnam Vet, that's that's how I greet them when

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00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.599
<v Speaker 1>I meet them, is welcome home. And they seem to

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00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:39.920
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate that because they.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't know that's a great, great way to show your appreciation.

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00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 4>Many of the stories in the Honor flight books from

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00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 4>the Vietnam veterans shared their total shock and dismay at

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00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 4>what happened when they got back and how they were

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00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:58.199
<v Speaker 4>greeted and mistreated. In many cases, such as when they

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00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:01.760
<v Speaker 4>were demobilized and they came back and landed in the States,

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00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:04.719
<v Speaker 4>they were told to remove their uniforms and don't leave

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00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.039
<v Speaker 4>the base in a uniform because you'll be spit on

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00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 4>and you will be abused and verbally scolded. And you know,

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00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 4>we've kind of revised history to pretend that was a

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00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:20.760
<v Speaker 4>rare instance, but it's really not. You don't have to

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00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 4>go very far asking these veterans about what it was

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00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:26.440
<v Speaker 4>like and I'll tell you. So that's that's pretty sad.

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00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:32.760
<v Speaker 4>But plus, we have generations now because we have volunteer

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00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:38.159
<v Speaker 4>armies who are not exposed to that. And if they

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00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 4>choose to, you know, stay in college for seven or

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00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:46.079
<v Speaker 4>eight years and and go through life without ever understanding

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00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:48.239
<v Speaker 4>what it means to serve your country, then that's just

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00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:50.599
<v Speaker 4>that's fine. That seems to be more the norm than

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<v Speaker 4>anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take a quick break and come back more with

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00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Peter Bronson on Memorial Day evening on the Nightcap. I

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00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.639
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know what projects you're working on, if any,

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00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 1>right now, because we always talk about your books and

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00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Chili Dog Press, and there's been so much good stuff,

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00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>good material that you've generated the last gosh, the last

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00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:16.960
<v Speaker 1>decade that you know, people hear you on the air,

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00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.519
<v Speaker 1>and whether it's with me or with somebody else, they

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00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>hear you describing your latest work. And the books just

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00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:29.599
<v Speaker 1>fly off the shelves and people are so appreciative that

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00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:33.119
<v Speaker 1>we were able to let them know about them. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with Peter Brownson? Are you working on

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00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:37.320
<v Speaker 1>anything currently?

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00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Pete.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm working on about four different books for clients authors.

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00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.079
<v Speaker 4>Some are people that when their books come out, you're

1130
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:48.320
<v Speaker 4>going to know who they are and you're going to

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00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:53.480
<v Speaker 4>be very excited about getting their books. Others are people

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00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:56.039
<v Speaker 4>who just always had a dream about writing a children's

1133
00:58:56.079 --> 00:59:02.440
<v Speaker 4>book or whatever, a biography or a mystery novel or adventure.

1134
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:04.920
<v Speaker 4>So that's a lot of fun. And then I'm also

1135
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.960
<v Speaker 4>working on my own book project, which right now is

1136
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:13.239
<v Speaker 4>short stories, and these would be a lot like the

1137
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.559
<v Speaker 4>books that I've already written, in other words, exploring local

1138
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:19.679
<v Speaker 4>history and stories you don't know about our local history,

1139
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:23.760
<v Speaker 4>people who made a huge impact on our region for

1140
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:28.519
<v Speaker 4>good or ill, and the exciting adventures that we have

1141
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.480
<v Speaker 4>all around us here in our past that we don't

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00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:31.920
<v Speaker 4>know about.

1143
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I told somebody and they actually heard an interview that

1144
00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I did with you when Promised Land came out. They

1145
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:42.199
<v Speaker 1>got the book, they said, man, this thing is a

1146
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:46.280
<v Speaker 1>page turner. It's a barn burner. It's great. I couldn't

1147
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:49.119
<v Speaker 1>put it down. Of course, he's a voracious reader too.

1148
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:54.119
<v Speaker 1>But people love it, people always tell me. And of

1149
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:56.880
<v Speaker 1>course the last one was the man who saved Cincinnati.

1150
00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:01.239
<v Speaker 4>Correct, The last one was promised before that was man

1151
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:03.880
<v Speaker 4>who saved Cincinnati. Right, So we went from Civil War

1152
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:06.280
<v Speaker 4>and then we kind of went back farther in time

1153
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:08.880
<v Speaker 4>to the Revolutionary War of the first people who came

1154
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:09.719
<v Speaker 4>to Cincinnati.

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01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:11.079
<v Speaker 2>They're great books.

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01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 1>There really are phenomenal books, Pete and thank You.

1157
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.719
<v Speaker 4>I just kind of fun is hearing from people who

1158
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:21.079
<v Speaker 4>read them and they have questions or they'll share stories,

1159
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.079
<v Speaker 4>for example, with Promised Lam the latest one. I've heard

1160
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:27.320
<v Speaker 4>from a lot of people who had ancestors whose families

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01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:31.280
<v Speaker 4>were among those first one hundred or so people who

1162
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:35.000
<v Speaker 4>dared to come here when this was extremely dangerous. But

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01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 4>that's really exciting to hear those stories.

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01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Peter Bronson is a believing Christian, believing in Jesus Christ,

1165
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:46.679
<v Speaker 1>the Savior of the world, the Lord and Savior.

1166
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Of Pete and me too. I am.

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01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I am with Peter in that, And this is something

1168
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I struggle with all the time as a talk show

1169
01:00:55.280 --> 01:01:00.199
<v Speaker 1>host doing you know, current events, topics, and many of

1170
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:05.840
<v Speaker 1>them political. Is that what I what I have had

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01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind as I become more and more

1172
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:14.400
<v Speaker 1>aware of my spiritual self, is that I get worked

1173
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:17.639
<v Speaker 1>up about stuff sometimes that I shouldn't be worked up

1174
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:24.639
<v Speaker 1>about at all and get exercised over things that in

1175
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate scheme of things, in the eternal scheme of things,

1176
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:30.239
<v Speaker 1>don't matter a hill of beans.

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01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:32.519
<v Speaker 2>How do you how do you fight that?

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01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>And how do you get back to center yourself so

1179
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:41.199
<v Speaker 1>you don't think that every political war is one you

1180
01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:44.719
<v Speaker 1>need to be fighting, and every argument is not one

1181
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:49.079
<v Speaker 1>you need to be having. Personally, I just am curious

1182
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:50.199
<v Speaker 1>for my own edification.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first, I think it helps for all of us

1184
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:58.079
<v Speaker 4>to be aware that what you described, this constant feeling

1185
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.639
<v Speaker 4>of anxiety that people get about the they have to

1186
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 4>stay in tune with the latest cable news and know

1187
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:07.480
<v Speaker 4>exactly what's going on at all times, because every cable

1188
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:11.159
<v Speaker 4>show has a little breaking news across the bottom. Alert, Alert, Alert,

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01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:15.519
<v Speaker 4>And this is be aware. This is the business model

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01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.079
<v Speaker 4>of our media today. It is no longer simply to

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01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.320
<v Speaker 4>inform you or give you an opportunity to know what's

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01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 4>going on in your community. The business model is to

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01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:29.039
<v Speaker 4>keep people at a high level of anxiety, to basically

1194
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:34.880
<v Speaker 4>be the merchants of fear and worry, and to keep

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01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.199
<v Speaker 4>us all wound up so that we feel like we

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01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 4>can't We have to be constantly in tune with media

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01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:46.760
<v Speaker 4>twenty four to seven, and it's not healthy. It's divided

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01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:50.159
<v Speaker 4>into red and blue media, and neither one of them

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01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:53.400
<v Speaker 4>wants to have any common facts together because that would

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01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:57.239
<v Speaker 4>destroy their business model. So the less keeps their crowd

1201
01:02:57.320 --> 01:02:59.840
<v Speaker 4>ginned up with one side of the story, and the

1202
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.800
<v Speaker 4>right does the same thing on the other side. Now,

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01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:06.320
<v Speaker 4>all that said, if you're aware of that, I would recommend,

1204
01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:11.440
<v Speaker 4>for one thing, take an occasional fast from media. Tune

1205
01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 4>it out, especially when you're trying to get some quiet.

1206
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Time or downtime.

1207
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:19.280
<v Speaker 4>Don't let the phone or the TV or the radio

1208
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:23.159
<v Speaker 4>keep you on the edge of your seat, because it's

1209
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.920
<v Speaker 4>not a healthy place to be. On the other hand,

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01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:29.480
<v Speaker 4>that said, I would say the most important thing is

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01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:32.920
<v Speaker 4>remember who is in control, and that the good guys

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01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:35.880
<v Speaker 4>win in the end because God is on his throne

1213
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:40.480
<v Speaker 4>and he is in control, not me. A lot of

1214
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.519
<v Speaker 4>these things that you were talking about and we've been

1215
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:47.119
<v Speaker 4>describing in the news, they are so far beyond our control.

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01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:51.800
<v Speaker 4>It's ridiculous. What do I possibly have anything in my

1217
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.440
<v Speaker 4>life that can affect one way or the other Fill

1218
01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:59.840
<v Speaker 4>in the blank the latest news story. It's beyond our control.

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01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:04.679
<v Speaker 4>So amen, in control of that, the lords in control

1220
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:09.000
<v Speaker 4>of that. And so I have I have a risk band.

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01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:11.679
<v Speaker 4>I've given you one yes, And I pass these out

1222
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:14.280
<v Speaker 4>at my book signings. And it's a Bible verse that

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01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I really love. It's Philippians four sixty seven, and this

1224
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:22.039
<v Speaker 4>verse says, be anxious for nothing but in everything, by

1225
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:27.480
<v Speaker 4>prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, Let your requests.

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01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Be made known to God. And the peace of God

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01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:30.840
<v Speaker 2>that surpasses.

1228
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:34.400
<v Speaker 4>All understanding, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ.

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01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Amen. Wow, that is such a promise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a perfect that's a perfect way to end this.

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01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:43.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm glad. Oh, I'm glad you had scripture ready.

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<v Speaker 1>This is wonderful. It's just what I need, just what

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01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:51.679
<v Speaker 1>I needed. Peter, great, Thank you so much. God, God

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01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:55.280
<v Speaker 1>bless you and keep you and we will talk soon,

1235
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:57.679
<v Speaker 1>all right, and bless.

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01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.000
<v Speaker 4>You too, Gary, Jeff, and have a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.

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01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm enjoying one right now. I appreciate it.

1238
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:08.800
<v Speaker 1>It's the nightcap and we're not done yet. So even

1239
01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:13.039
<v Speaker 1>though this is a somber Reverend holiday for America, even

1240
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:16.119
<v Speaker 1>to call it a holiday seems a little bit not

1241
01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:20.119
<v Speaker 1>quite right, but a grateful Memorial Day. I couldn't think

1242
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:23.280
<v Speaker 1>of a better way to conclude tonight's special Memorial Day

1243
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.199
<v Speaker 1>nightcap than with a conversation with my old friend Andy Furman.

1244
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Plus he was oddly available.

1245
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:34.599
<v Speaker 1>So I'm grateful not only for those who give the

1246
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:39.960
<v Speaker 1>ultimate sacrifice, Andy, but that you are almost always available

1247
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to me. And I don't know what that says about

1248
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:45.599
<v Speaker 1>you exactly, but I know you're my friend and you

1249
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.599
<v Speaker 1>do anything for me, including be on my radio show.

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01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:51.079
<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much. I am grateful to you,

1251
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Andy Furman.

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01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 6>I'm only a phone call away. You make it sound

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01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:55.639
<v Speaker 6>like you know.

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01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:57.719
<v Speaker 8>Nothing else going on in my life, but that's okay.

1255
01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:00.239
<v Speaker 8>I appreciate a happy Memorial Day to you. When yours

1256
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:02.400
<v Speaker 8>you know you say it's a summer day. I think

1257
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 8>it's a happy day because they created freedom for everybody.

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01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:07.079
<v Speaker 8>But again, as a ninety nine percent of the people

1259
01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:09.760
<v Speaker 8>who celebrate this holiday are happy for a three day weekend.

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01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:13.599
<v Speaker 8>They grill out and they just shoot a fireworks. That's

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01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:15.519
<v Speaker 8>what they think the holiday is. It needs to be

1262
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:18.519
<v Speaker 8>taught other the more. And I guarantee if they pull

1263
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:21.679
<v Speaker 8>the school kids, at least in the Cincinni public schools.

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01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:23.159
<v Speaker 8>I don't think many of them would even know what the.

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01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:23.920
<v Speaker 6>Holiday is all about.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what, you know, you know what the schools

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01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:26.679
<v Speaker 8>they be out anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>What's odd to me, Andy, is that people always say,

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01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:32.760
<v Speaker 1>in this day and time that this is the most

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01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.519
<v Speaker 1>divided our nation has ever been. And I think about

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01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the half million people who died in the Civil War. No,

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01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's been more divided than this. And certainly

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01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:47.880
<v Speaker 1>this is not numero uno on the times in which

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01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the United States of America has been divided. We were

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01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:53.639
<v Speaker 1>two different countries for a few short years at one

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01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:57.239
<v Speaker 1>point and had to be mended back together, I wouldn't

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01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.599
<v Speaker 1>you say. And that's where Memorial Day or decor Ration Day,

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01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the original name for this holiday came from, was the

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01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 1>reunion of our country. And remembering those on both sides,

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01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:14.119
<v Speaker 1>the North and the South, and there were fine people

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01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.239
<v Speaker 1>on both sides. Believe me, they were just defending a

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01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.079
<v Speaker 1>way of life. And even though it was ignorant in

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01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:24.079
<v Speaker 1>the South that they wanted to continue slavery and slaving

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01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 1>a whole species of man, the fact is there were

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01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of honest, hardworking people who just got drawn

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01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.159
<v Speaker 1>into it. And wound up giving their lives. And that's

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01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.519
<v Speaker 1>what Memorial Day ultimately springs from, and that's what it's

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01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:41.639
<v Speaker 1>originally about. So do you think that America is the

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01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.559
<v Speaker 1>most divided it's ever been right now today?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think the people that say that they're very

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01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:47.559
<v Speaker 8>foolish and uneducated because they.

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01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:49.119
<v Speaker 6>Don't know the history of America. Number one.

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01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.079
<v Speaker 8>I think most of the people are saying that are

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01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:54.880
<v Speaker 8>the ones that are doing the dividing. Yeah, that's all.

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01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:59.000
<v Speaker 1>They talk about it, so they try and create this

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01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:04.199
<v Speaker 1>false division. I walk right every day in this land

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01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:06.760
<v Speaker 1>like you do. Do you see people at war with

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01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:09.159
<v Speaker 1>each other on your daily walk? I mean, and I'm

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01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:11.480
<v Speaker 1>in different environments and you know, I'm in that bar

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01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:15.159
<v Speaker 1>three four days a week, and I see people of

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01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:19.319
<v Speaker 1>all skin colors, all kinds of different persuasions as far

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01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:23.000
<v Speaker 1>even sexual orientation, and they all get along. I don't

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01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:28.319
<v Speaker 1>know where this talk of being divided comes from. I

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01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:29.680
<v Speaker 1>think you hit the nail on the head.

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01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 8>I usually to kind of assume in a little bit

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01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:35.199
<v Speaker 8>under term divided, I think more opinionated. And I'll tell

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01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:37.560
<v Speaker 8>you why. I say that, because I think social media

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01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:40.760
<v Speaker 8>has created that. Social media has provided an outlet for

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01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:44.000
<v Speaker 8>people to basically say and spew what they want, what

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01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:46.399
<v Speaker 8>they don't want, you know. And I talk about sports

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01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:49.000
<v Speaker 8>as well. And there was a story just the other day.

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01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:51.960
<v Speaker 8>I turned the game on them, just Chattel surfing and

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01:08:52.319 --> 01:08:55.000
<v Speaker 8>the Atlanta Dream was playing the Dallas team in the

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01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:58.159
<v Speaker 8>WNBA and Brittany Grinder as you know, who was.

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01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:00.119
<v Speaker 6>Held hostage in Russia food.

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01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.399
<v Speaker 8>While she plays now for the Atlanta Dream And she

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01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 8>was interviewed at halftime and in the middle of the interview,

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01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:08.920
<v Speaker 8>in the middle she walked away from the interviewer. And

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01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:11.159
<v Speaker 8>this is on CBS Sports, not the network, but CBS

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01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:14.039
<v Speaker 8>Sports Network, and she walked away from the interviewer and

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01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:16.640
<v Speaker 8>she turned the face at halftime to the referee, the

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01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:20.920
<v Speaker 8>official and said get it f and right on live TV.

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01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:22.239
<v Speaker 6>Then you about to the interview.

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01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:24.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'll say, I scratched.

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01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:28.319
<v Speaker 6>My head and say why. And you know, to me,

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01:09:28.800 --> 01:09:29.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm not apprude.

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<v Speaker 8>And I've heard those turns before I heard the F bomb.

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01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:33.439
<v Speaker 8>And I tell you what, I would not be surprised

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01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:36.039
<v Speaker 8>that even if college professors are using it in lecture

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01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:38.319
<v Speaker 8>hole right now on this day and age, politicians have

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01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:41.680
<v Speaker 8>used it in speeches. So I'm not that a shame

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01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:43.520
<v Speaker 8>to say that. I've heard it or, as I say,

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01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:46.920
<v Speaker 8>approved to say it at times. But I think there's

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01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:49.119
<v Speaker 8>a time and the place, and I think that for

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01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 8>a basketball player who has a stage, a platform where

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01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:56.399
<v Speaker 8>young kids, high school kids will hear and see that,

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01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:57.479
<v Speaker 8>they'll think it's correct.

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01:09:57.479 --> 01:09:58.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to watch step further.

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01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:02.479
<v Speaker 8>The kid help the the kid on the Indiana paces

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01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:05.760
<v Speaker 8>who had the chokes sign Halliburton the other day, Tyre's

1341
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:08.840
<v Speaker 8>Halliburton after the Knicks lost that game in game two,

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01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:11.880
<v Speaker 8>put his hand around his neck and get the choke sign.

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01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:14.039
<v Speaker 8>And the next did choke. First of all, he couldn't

1344
01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:16.439
<v Speaker 8>even be creative enough to do a thing on his own.

1345
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:18.760
<v Speaker 6>He copied it from Reggie Millie years ago. But he

1346
01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:21.359
<v Speaker 6>did that, and again I look.

1347
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.359
<v Speaker 8>At it and I laugh. I find it somewhat humorous.

1348
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:25.800
<v Speaker 8>But again, there's gonna be high school kids. You're gonna

1349
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:27.840
<v Speaker 8>go to a high school basketball game and see a

1350
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:31.600
<v Speaker 8>high school kid putting his hand around his throat when

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01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:33.640
<v Speaker 8>a team that he plays chokes and loses the game.

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01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:37.000
<v Speaker 8>I don't think it's a It's a good showing, that's

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01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:39.039
<v Speaker 8>all I'm saying. I don't think it's good, and maybe

1354
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:41.159
<v Speaker 8>maybe I'm wrong, Maybe the commissioner of the NBA and

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01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:44.079
<v Speaker 8>WNBA need to step in and do something about it.

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01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Really well, you know what, there's lots of situations where

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01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:52.640
<v Speaker 1>if you make a gun symbol with your fingers, or

1358
01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you act like you're slashing someone's throats, it's called out

1359
01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes those people are put on the carpet where

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01:10:59.600 --> 01:10:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they show.

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01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Would be J. D.

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01:11:01.239 --> 01:11:04.119
<v Speaker 8>Morant from the Memphis Grizzlies. He's been fined several times

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01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:06.399
<v Speaker 8>with the gun make a three point shot and he

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01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:09.600
<v Speaker 8>takes his thinger ound and emulates a gun and he's

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01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:10.680
<v Speaker 8>ben find several times.

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01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:14.479
<v Speaker 1>There's a fine line between freedom of speech, which we

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01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:18.880
<v Speaker 1>all enjoy, which says the government cannot limit or put

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01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:23.319
<v Speaker 1>us in jail for what we say, and then those

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01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:27.880
<v Speaker 1>things that truly do insight violence and as you say,

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01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:32.439
<v Speaker 1>influence people who are watching in a negative way to

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01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:35.640
<v Speaker 1>where they think that is acceptable in a civil society.

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01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:39.000
<v Speaker 6>So that, you know what, you're a very interesting point.

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01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:41.680
<v Speaker 8>You talk about that big umbrellas a freedom of speech

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01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:43.159
<v Speaker 8>which people kind of hide and use.

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01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:44.199
<v Speaker 6>You know, all freedom of.

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01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:44.720
<v Speaker 8>Speech I could do.

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01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:46.680
<v Speaker 6>Well, Yeah, there is freedom.

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01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:48.600
<v Speaker 8>Of speech, Thank goodness, in our country because of the

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01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:51.079
<v Speaker 8>people who fought for it. However, when you work for

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01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:54.000
<v Speaker 8>an organization, when you're part of a a of a

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01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 8>of corporation, you have to apply by the rules of

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01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:02.600
<v Speaker 8>the corporation. Absolutely, best player in the National Basketball Association,

1383
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:04.760
<v Speaker 8>you have to follow some rules. I mean, if you

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01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.640
<v Speaker 8>have a franchise in McDonald's, all right, and you think

1385
01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:09.840
<v Speaker 8>that it might be better served if you own this

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01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:12.720
<v Speaker 8>franchise and serve your hamburgers on a bagel rather than

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01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:15.600
<v Speaker 8>a sesame seed bun, No, you can't do it. Part

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01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:17.880
<v Speaker 8>of the deal of McDonald's when you buy into a franchise,

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01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:20.640
<v Speaker 8>did you follow franchise e rules that you serve your

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01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:22.359
<v Speaker 8>hamburgers on a sesame seed bun?

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01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:23.119
<v Speaker 2>And that's it.

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01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:26.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why McDonald's has been so successful because their uniformity.

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01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:29.680
<v Speaker 1>People know what they're going to get when they go there,

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01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they continue to go there.

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01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:33.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's why McDonald's business.

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01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 8>When you go to McDonald's, you're going to see the

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01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 8>people behind the counter wearing those McDonald's uniforms with the

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01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:41.640
<v Speaker 8>McDonald's logo. You're not going to see a guy wearing

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01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:43.079
<v Speaker 8>a shirt that says if you want it.

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01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:48.520
<v Speaker 1>No, No, you will not, absolutely, you know. And it's

1401
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the same thing when you talk about freedom of speech.

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01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Freedom of speech is not threatening Jewish students in a university.

1403
01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:00.520
<v Speaker 1>It is not keeping them from getting to the library

1404
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:04.479
<v Speaker 1>or their dorm or making them feel viola because of violence.

1405
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:05.359
<v Speaker 6>Act violence.

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01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Violence is not freedom of speech and it shouldn't be

1407
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:12.960
<v Speaker 1>tolerated in this country in any regard because of any

1408
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:17.279
<v Speaker 1>political affiliation. And yet some of these college campus presidents

1409
01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and some of some people who are you know, insisting

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01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:26.159
<v Speaker 1>on these movements and these radical movements that you know,

1411
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they point the finger in spotlight one group that they

1412
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:33.840
<v Speaker 1>don't like for political reasons, and they use violence against

1413
01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:37.680
<v Speaker 1>them or vandalism. That is not freedom of speech as

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01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:40.439
<v Speaker 1>it is defined by our constitution and should not be

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01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:42.079
<v Speaker 1>tolerated period.

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01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:44.520
<v Speaker 8>Okay, I want to talk about Okay, and this is great,

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01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:46.479
<v Speaker 8>but I want to lighten it up a little bit

1418
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:48.159
<v Speaker 8>and talk about sports because I do that because I

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01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:50.199
<v Speaker 8>feel absolutely I'm not that smart anyway, but I'm a

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01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:53.920
<v Speaker 8>little smarter in the sports arena than anything else. And

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01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:55.399
<v Speaker 8>I will say this, first of all, there's a lot

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01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:56.640
<v Speaker 8>of history on Memorial Day.

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01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:57.640
<v Speaker 6>What the history is?

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01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.760
<v Speaker 8>They say, the saying is that the team in baseball,

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01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.479
<v Speaker 8>major League Baseball's in the first place a Memorial Day

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01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:07.199
<v Speaker 8>is going to independence, all right. So that's an old

1427
01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:10.359
<v Speaker 8>wives tale in baseball. Okay, that's number one. Number two,

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01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:12.439
<v Speaker 8>I want to throw this out, and well the other.

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01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.359
<v Speaker 1>No, statistically, how often does that hold out that's the team?

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01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:15.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:18.239
<v Speaker 8>I mean, that's a good, good question. I will check

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01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:21.840
<v Speaker 8>on that next time you not chat. However, since nineteen

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01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:24.720
<v Speaker 8>forty seven, believe it or not, the National Basketball Association

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01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:27.880
<v Speaker 8>has always played a game on Christmas Day, all right.

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01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:31.000
<v Speaker 8>Since twenty twenty, the National Football League's played the game

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01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:33.039
<v Speaker 8>on Christmas Day and in two games, and this year

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01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:35.600
<v Speaker 8>they're going to have a triple header on Friday, December

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01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:40.039
<v Speaker 8>twenty fifth, Christmas Day, which basically pushes aside the NBA

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01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:42.720
<v Speaker 8>because obviously, you know as well as I do, everybody's

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01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:44.479
<v Speaker 8>going to watch the football game or not the basketball

1441
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:45.520
<v Speaker 8>game for various reasons.

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01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:46.680
<v Speaker 6>Number one, you know.

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01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:50.640
<v Speaker 8>People in non NFL cities still watch the NFL. People

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01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:53.800
<v Speaker 8>in non NBA cities tend not to watch the NBA.

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01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:56.359
<v Speaker 8>For example, we live in Cincinnati. You turn on the

1446
01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:58.520
<v Speaker 8>eleven o'clock or ten o'clock news for that matter, and

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01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:00.880
<v Speaker 8>watch the sports. They'll never get of an NBA score

1448
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.119
<v Speaker 8>because no one cares. We don't have an NBA franchise.

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01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:06.479
<v Speaker 8>If you live in Salt Lake City, Utah, for example,

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01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:10.199
<v Speaker 8>they'll probably give NFL scores for various reasons, in particular.

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01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:12.600
<v Speaker 6>Probably gambling, whatever it may be. But in the NFL

1452
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:15.239
<v Speaker 6>is national. NBA's regional. Okay.

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01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:18.399
<v Speaker 8>So the commission of the NBA came out the other

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01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:22.359
<v Speaker 8>day Adam Silver and said competition is good, this is okay.

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01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 8>When he was quizzed about the NFL and I was

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01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:25.800
<v Speaker 8>going through on Christmas Day.

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01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:27.359
<v Speaker 6>First of all, he's full of you.

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01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:29.560
<v Speaker 8>Know, competition is good, but it's not good for him

1459
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:33.239
<v Speaker 8>because they basically squeezed the NBA out of Christmas Day.

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01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:36.000
<v Speaker 8>Yet I'm an NBA fan. I love the NBA. I

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01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:38.439
<v Speaker 8>always wanted to see a franchise here in Cincinnati, and

1462
01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:40.920
<v Speaker 8>it's not going to happen. However, I wrote a letter

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01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:44.119
<v Speaker 8>yesterday to Adam Silver suggesting an idea. I want to

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01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 8>run it by you because you're the man of reason.

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01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:46.359
<v Speaker 6>All right.

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01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:49.079
<v Speaker 8>The National Hockey League has done a lot this year.

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01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:51.279
<v Speaker 8>They really have to have that Final four thing with

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01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:52.479
<v Speaker 8>foreign countries playing.

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01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:53.119
<v Speaker 6>That was great.

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01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:56.680
<v Speaker 8>They planned Christmas Day outdoors, which is unbelievable. They've done

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01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:58.600
<v Speaker 8>a lot of things to promote the sport, and the

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01:15:58.680 --> 01:15:59.880
<v Speaker 8>NHL is really thriving.

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01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Really believe they are.

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01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:03.000
<v Speaker 8>So I wrote to Adam Silver and say, here's what

1475
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:05.760
<v Speaker 8>you got to do to come back the NFL on

1476
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:09.039
<v Speaker 8>Christmas Day because I'm a big NBA fan. The cities

1477
01:16:09.079 --> 01:16:14.159
<v Speaker 8>of Miami, Los Angeles, and one other southern city which

1478
01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:18.079
<v Speaker 8>I can't remember right now. It was La or La

1479
01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:22.279
<v Speaker 8>Phoenix on Miami. They all have franchises on Christmas Day,

1480
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:23.119
<v Speaker 8>you should.

1481
01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:25.199
<v Speaker 6>Play the game outdoors. I think they could do it.

1482
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:28.520
<v Speaker 8>I think Miami on Christmas Day, Phoenix and La could

1483
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:31.119
<v Speaker 8>be a climate good enough to have an outdoor game

1484
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:35.199
<v Speaker 8>on Christmas Day, which would really somewhat combat the interest

1485
01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:37.640
<v Speaker 8>of the NFL on that day, but people would tune

1486
01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:41.680
<v Speaker 8>it in just for the curiosity factor. Really, Madam Silver

1487
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:42.800
<v Speaker 8>writes me back, do.

1488
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:44.560
<v Speaker 2>You want my opinion on what you just said?

1489
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:46.880
<v Speaker 6>Please do it and you could make fun of it

1490
01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:47.600
<v Speaker 6>and say stupid.

1491
01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:50.800
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I'm not gonna say it's stupid, because again,

1492
01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:55.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm all about inclusion, especially on this day. Andy on

1493
01:16:55.640 --> 01:17:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Memorial there. I'm about it uniting, not dividing. I say

1494
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to that that the NFL will win regardless, the NFL

1495
01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:11.159
<v Speaker 1>will win over the NBA and the NHL, no matter

1496
01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:15.119
<v Speaker 1>what the NBA does on a particular day like Christmas Day,

1497
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:19.479
<v Speaker 1>for example. What I do remember as a kid, when

1498
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:23.119
<v Speaker 1>I was more of an NBA fan, and this was

1499
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:26.479
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties, I had a portable black and white

1500
01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:28.800
<v Speaker 1>TV that ran on batteries and it was just you know,

1501
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:31.720
<v Speaker 1>rabbit ears, you know. And We're at a picnic on

1502
01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day with my family, and I brought my little

1503
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:38.479
<v Speaker 1>TV along with me because I wanted to watch the

1504
01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Boston Celtics and the LA Lakers play on Memorial Day

1505
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.439
<v Speaker 1>while we were having our picnic. And nobody objected to that,

1506
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 1>and I had the TV right there. I think Boston

1507
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.520
<v Speaker 1>creamedom or something by thirty points, but as a NBA

1508
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:55.119
<v Speaker 1>playoff game, and I wanted to see it. And that's

1509
01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:58.159
<v Speaker 1>fine on Memorial Day. But let me tell you something.

1510
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:01.279
<v Speaker 1>The NBA season, for a lot of people that are

1511
01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:05.359
<v Speaker 1>just mildly interested in not rabbit NBA fans, does not

1512
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:10.199
<v Speaker 1>begin until the NFL season is over after the Super Bowl.

1513
01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:13.720
<v Speaker 1>After the Super Bowl anybody who might pay attention to

1514
01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the NBA who's not a rabbit. NBA fan is not

1515
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:21.399
<v Speaker 1>going to start paying attention until February or even March,

1516
01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:23.880
<v Speaker 1>as we get closer to the NBA playoffs.

1517
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:25.520
<v Speaker 6>I agree with everything you say.

1518
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.840
<v Speaker 1>The NFL will rule over the NBA until they're not

1519
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:34.079
<v Speaker 1>playing games in the NFL, and then you know, maybe

1520
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they get a few more eyeballs.

1521
01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:39.319
<v Speaker 8>Right, and especially the NFL is going to dominate on Christmas, saying,

1522
01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:41.319
<v Speaker 8>no matter what the NBA does, that they could play naked,

1523
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:44.119
<v Speaker 8>they still would dominate. And I'll tell you why Christmas

1524
01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:48.359
<v Speaker 8>is zooming into the playoffs situation. The playoffs teas will

1525
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:51.680
<v Speaker 8>be shocking for playoffs, Oh absolutely around Christmas time. So

1526
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:55.720
<v Speaker 8>that's bigger even than the regular NFL game. This is huge.

1527
01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:58.520
<v Speaker 8>So I'm telling you if the NBA players played naked

1528
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:01.359
<v Speaker 8>that day, that the NFL would still outdrawing really well,

1529
01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:01.880
<v Speaker 8>I do it.

1530
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that would even further decrease the NBA's ratings

1531
01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:07.279
<v Speaker 1>if they played in the nude.

1532
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:09.399
<v Speaker 8>No, but I will say that if they played the

1533
01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:11.920
<v Speaker 8>game outdoors, I think if the ratings were two to

1534
01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:15.039
<v Speaker 8>one or three to one, maybe they could decrease it

1535
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:18.039
<v Speaker 8>to two to one, maybe because out of curiosity, people

1536
01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:20.399
<v Speaker 8>would want to see what's going on, especially maybe if

1537
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:23.399
<v Speaker 8>one NFL game is like a route you know, it's like,

1538
01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:25.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, really out of control, people will switch the

1539
01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:26.960
<v Speaker 8>dial and go back to the NBA.

1540
01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:31.039
<v Speaker 6>Well unless they unless.

1541
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Unless they raise the hoop to like twelve feet or whatever.

1542
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:36.479
<v Speaker 1>Then you have the added factor, like say golf on

1543
01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:39.720
<v Speaker 1>playing outdoors on Christmas Day, even in the southern climbs,

1544
01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you still have the possibility of wind or rain at

1545
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.920
<v Speaker 1>complicate complicating the action a little bit, which might make

1546
01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:47.960
<v Speaker 1>it more interesting.

1547
01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:50.720
<v Speaker 2>You know that three pointer.

1548
01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Is not gonna be not gonna be very actors of

1549
01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the outside bringing.

1550
01:19:56.560 --> 01:20:01.399
<v Speaker 8>Down probably cover the court with some sort of covering. However,

1551
01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:04.359
<v Speaker 8>how do you cover Well, maybe you can't cover the fans,

1552
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:07.279
<v Speaker 8>because if they're in a regular stadium where they have

1553
01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:11.039
<v Speaker 8>like the facade coming over that cover the seating, they

1554
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:13.359
<v Speaker 8>can probably work. They probably could some sort of a

1555
01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:17.439
<v Speaker 8>tent over the court in preparation for a rain. They

1556
01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:20.319
<v Speaker 8>probably could. But you know what, I promise you our

1557
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:23.119
<v Speaker 8>party won't get get any feedback whatsoever.

1558
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:24.640
<v Speaker 6>But if I do, you'll be the first to know.

1559
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:27.119
<v Speaker 8>I'll let you know if adam civil rights, so close.

1560
01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Me back, and I'll let you know if anybody cares

1561
01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:30.239
<v Speaker 1>after they listen to this.

1562
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:32.640
<v Speaker 2>So you have written.

1563
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:35.760
<v Speaker 1>You have written another op ed to the Cincinnati Inquirer,

1564
01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:39.079
<v Speaker 1>which again is something that sadly nobody pays attention to,

1565
01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:40.079
<v Speaker 1>but you do.

1566
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:43.560
<v Speaker 6>And what don't knock the Inquirer.

1567
01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:46.399
<v Speaker 8>I still believe that there's a hearty soul of group

1568
01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:49.840
<v Speaker 8>of people that read the Inquirer. They love the newspapers,

1569
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:52.680
<v Speaker 8>they love to they love to read even online or

1570
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:54.720
<v Speaker 8>hold it becare's a lot of people who like to

1571
01:20:54.840 --> 01:20:57.920
<v Speaker 8>feel and touch a newspaper. I'm one of them, all right,

1572
01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:00.520
<v Speaker 8>So don't I'm not the young. I don't think anybody

1573
01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:02.840
<v Speaker 8>under the age of forty does. But I think a

1574
01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:05.199
<v Speaker 8>lot of people do still like to read a newspaper.

1575
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:08.119
<v Speaker 1>So as you're feeling your newspaper, what do you want

1576
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:11.119
<v Speaker 1>to read when you open up the the op ed

1577
01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:13.159
<v Speaker 1>section to see if your letter's there?

1578
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:14.279
<v Speaker 2>What did you write about?

1579
01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:16.000
<v Speaker 6>Andy Well?

1580
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:18.600
<v Speaker 8>I wrote about the situation of Cincinnati, which I love

1581
01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:20.720
<v Speaker 8>living here, and I love the fact that we have

1582
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:23.159
<v Speaker 8>a lot of people that want to make the place better,

1583
01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:25.800
<v Speaker 8>make the city better, and their dreamers out there but

1584
01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:29.000
<v Speaker 8>you know what, before you dream, you know, let the

1585
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:32.439
<v Speaker 8>dream come true and then talk about it. For example,

1586
01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:35.159
<v Speaker 8>I go back in history, because I've been here a while.

1587
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:36.880
<v Speaker 8>I remember one a former I think it was a

1588
01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:39.399
<v Speaker 8>city council member, not going to mention names to embarrassed people.

1589
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:42.239
<v Speaker 8>He wanted to get the Olympics here, right, I mean,

1590
01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:44.720
<v Speaker 8>and after a while you get these people.

1591
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:47.079
<v Speaker 6>That just blowharts. It's just open their mouth.

1592
01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:50.159
<v Speaker 8>To maybe hear themselves talk, and nothing ever happens, so

1593
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:53.199
<v Speaker 8>the Olympics never came. After that, we heard someone say

1594
01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:56.399
<v Speaker 8>they wanted to get a college football bowl game here

1595
01:21:56.640 --> 01:21:59.000
<v Speaker 8>and call it the Chili Bowl and maybe have skyline

1596
01:21:59.079 --> 01:21:59.640
<v Speaker 8>chili spots.

1597
01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:01.079
<v Speaker 6>Not a bad idea.

1598
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:03.239
<v Speaker 8>We have the facilities where they could play it in.

1599
01:22:03.479 --> 01:22:06.279
<v Speaker 8>They probably could play it in pay Course Stadium. But again,

1600
01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:09.359
<v Speaker 8>keep the mouth shut and get it done and then

1601
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:12.319
<v Speaker 8>make the major announcement. You know, I'm going to say

1602
01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:15.840
<v Speaker 8>something that a former football coach who used to roam

1603
01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:18.800
<v Speaker 8>the sidelines on the Cincinnati Bengals sidelines used to say,

1604
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:21.680
<v Speaker 8>his name is Marvin Lewis. I see better than I hear,

1605
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.800
<v Speaker 8>and I'll add to that, I see better than I

1606
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:26.640
<v Speaker 8>hear and than I read okay, because now we're into

1607
01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:29.960
<v Speaker 8>two more situations. Now. The city of Cincinnati is talking

1608
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:34.439
<v Speaker 8>about getting the NFL Draft here, right, the NFL Draft

1609
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:38.159
<v Speaker 8>a wonderful event. When and where will it happen? And

1610
01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:40.680
<v Speaker 8>you know what, is there a committee? Are you doing

1611
01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:43.680
<v Speaker 8>anything about it? You're tossing out these words to make

1612
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:46.000
<v Speaker 8>yourself feel good that you're a good guy, a good

1613
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:48.680
<v Speaker 8>person to help promote Cincinnati, but you're not doing anything

1614
01:22:48.680 --> 01:22:51.600
<v Speaker 8>about it. Really, And it's another one now, the last

1615
01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:54.079
<v Speaker 8>and lace less and not least at all. There's this

1616
01:22:54.159 --> 01:22:56.760
<v Speaker 8>arena thing which is going on for the last twenty

1617
01:22:56.800 --> 01:22:59.640
<v Speaker 8>five years. Blame me as long as I know, as

1618
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:01.840
<v Speaker 8>Almo as I tried to get an NBA team here,

1619
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:03.840
<v Speaker 8>and I'm one of those guys I tried. Not only

1620
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.239
<v Speaker 8>did I try, I had the investor. And as soon

1621
01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:08.960
<v Speaker 8>as the investor came to Cincinnati and saw what old

1622
01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:12.399
<v Speaker 8>Riverfront Stadium the Riverfront Coliseum looked like, he got back

1623
01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:13.359
<v Speaker 8>on the plane in the west.

1624
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:13.960
<v Speaker 6>All right.

1625
01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.279
<v Speaker 8>So you could call me a blowhard as well if

1626
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:18.399
<v Speaker 8>you want to. But we had the investor, we had

1627
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:20.479
<v Speaker 8>the guy who wanted to buy an NB eighteen here

1628
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:23.119
<v Speaker 8>and move it to Cincinnati. But we couldn't because there

1629
01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:25.479
<v Speaker 8>was no place to play, right, So let's get back.

1630
01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:27.720
<v Speaker 6>To this arena, all right. You got a committee here

1631
01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:28.680
<v Speaker 6>who wants.

1632
01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:30.399
<v Speaker 8>To get an arena, a new arena, and all I

1633
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:34.119
<v Speaker 8>hear about is like we wanted downtown, we wanted at

1634
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:36.840
<v Speaker 8>the banks, we wanted with TQ wellers, we wanted in

1635
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:39.920
<v Speaker 8>the suburbs. You know what, stop it. I don't want

1636
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:43.199
<v Speaker 8>to hear arena anymore because you know why, because the

1637
01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:46.560
<v Speaker 8>individual and to a group of people or corporate entity

1638
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:50.079
<v Speaker 8>that buys that arena, they're gonna decide where it goes.

1639
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:52.079
<v Speaker 8>Because the who weather pays for it is going to

1640
01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:55.000
<v Speaker 8>decide where they want to put their arena. To stop

1641
01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:57.600
<v Speaker 8>making decisions where it's going to go. Go out there

1642
01:23:57.640 --> 01:23:59.720
<v Speaker 8>and get a group of people or an equity group

1643
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:02.239
<v Speaker 8>to buy the arena. That's what you need to do.

1644
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>And don'ts and don't again, and don't again burden the

1645
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>taxpayers with building that arena where the city wants it.

1646
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>You're right, the people who are going to actually own

1647
01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the franchise are the ones that should decide. Andy. We

1648
01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>got to end it there. I want to thank you

1649
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:21.479
<v Speaker 1>for spending the last few minutes of Memorial Day with me.

1650
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:24.600
<v Speaker 8>Well, like you say, I have nothing else to do anyway.

1651
01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, and it's been too cold to swim.

1652
01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:30.039
<v Speaker 6>In your pool, all right, thank you?

1653
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, A grateful Memorial Day to you, my friend

1654
01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Andy Furman on the nightcap, as we conclude on this

1655
01:24:40.039 --> 01:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>most hallowed of United States holidays.

1656
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Back in a moment to wrap up,
