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<v Speaker 3>Big get about it. He get mad.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, this is Jesse Carmichael from Room five. Hi, this

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<v Speaker 4>is Phil Margo of the Tokens.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Nicole Atkins on the Rock and Roll History Show.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll History

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<v Speaker 6>Show and Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. Tonight we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna take a little trip around the world and talk

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<v Speaker 6>about songs about different places. No passport needed and no

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<v Speaker 6>follow up quiz, So just sit back, not not no,

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<v Speaker 6>that's true. If you want to scan yourself, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>I would choose the pat down. It's a little more fun,

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<v Speaker 6>but that's it. That's up to you. As always, before

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<v Speaker 6>we start, allowing me to introduce all the crambones who

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<v Speaker 6>are joining us here tonight. First and foremost, from the

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<v Speaker 6>Erector Observatory, he learned that if you walk the entire

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<v Speaker 6>distance of the equator, you'd be really tired.

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<v Speaker 4>Neil rectors and kind of wet to at some point.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're right, but yeah, and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>so old that I've actually used a paper road map. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>same like no GPS. No GPS here, dame.

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<v Speaker 6>The skill is to be able to fold it neatly

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<v Speaker 6>to this section you need.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I've been walking around lost for decades. I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Road maps and fitted sheets or the Bane of Mind

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<v Speaker 1>system fitted sheets.

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<v Speaker 6>You just roll them up and cram everything into the

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<v Speaker 6>pillowcase and put it away in the bag. That's that's

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<v Speaker 6>how you fold the fitted sheet.

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<v Speaker 7>I just see that video.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, did you say that fitted sheet? Did you say yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>just check say that fast.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm not. We're gonna move on from paranormally yours.

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<v Speaker 6>She's planning on quitting her job and traveling the world

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<v Speaker 6>until she's broke. So we'll see her tomorrow morning. Dale

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<v Speaker 6>Nuclem is here absolutely on the silver screen. She saw

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<v Speaker 6>the beach boys walk into a bar. Round round, get around.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll get around. Yeah, and last but not least, a

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<v Speaker 6>host of shaving cream. She read that Elton John recently

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<v Speaker 6>retired from touring. Now he's worried about packing on a

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<v Speaker 6>few pounds. Goodbye normal jeans, barb.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just glad I got to see him.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I saw him a few times. It was never disappointing.

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<v Speaker 6>I never saw a hissy fit. I know some people

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<v Speaker 6>got stuck at some he fit concerts and it was miserable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So I was lucky. He was always in a

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<v Speaker 6>good mood. So what can I say?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I would have liked to have seen a

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<v Speaker 4>hissy fit.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know what, there were times and he would

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<v Speaker 6>just stop playing. There were times he would play poorly.

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<v Speaker 6>He wouldn't you know, it wasn't you know. He would

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<v Speaker 6>take it out on He had a hissy fit on

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<v Speaker 6>an usher once who was asking people to sit down,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, because they're blocking people and that ain't right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean there's entertainment hiss he fits, and then

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<v Speaker 6>there's like you're being a jerk hiss he fit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. None of that occurred when I went

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<v Speaker 1>to see him.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, same, same. I was lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>You should get your money back or you know, half

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<v Speaker 4>your money back. Yeah, no, hissy fit.

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<v Speaker 6>True, No, that usually comes from the audience.

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<v Speaker 7>I want the hissy fit discount.

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<v Speaker 6>You need a punch card your fifth hissy fit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, so yeah, we're talking about songs about different

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<v Speaker 6>places around the world. Mercedes. I think it was your idea, right,

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<v Speaker 6>It was my idea, and you're going to leave us

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<v Speaker 6>off this week, so take it away, good, Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>So this song I love and you will too, if

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<v Speaker 7>by a chance you've never heard it. It's a song

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<v Speaker 7>by They Might Be Giants, a band with a great

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<v Speaker 7>sense of humor and wonderfully clever lyrics. They were formed

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<v Speaker 7>in nineteen eighty two by John Flansburgh and John Linnell,

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<v Speaker 7>who started out as a duo and then added Marty Beller,

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<v Speaker 7>Dan Miller, and Danny Weincoff. John and John began writing

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<v Speaker 7>songs together in high school, but never played together in

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<v Speaker 7>a band back then. After going to separate colleges, they

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<v Speaker 7>reunited in nineteen eighty one after moving to the same

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<v Speaker 7>apartment building in Brooklyn. And no, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 7>that's a crazy coincidence. Planned I tried to find out

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<v Speaker 7>they had originally chosen a name that, according to John Flansburgh,

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<v Speaker 7>was quote so bad that John Lennelle and I have

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<v Speaker 7>made a vow that we will never tell anyone, even

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<v Speaker 7>our children. And now that's my life goal is to

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<v Speaker 7>find out what it was. Then, after they settled on

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<v Speaker 7>They Might Be Giants, after the movie with George She's

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<v Speaker 7>c Scott and Joanne Woodward, which is in turn taken

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<v Speaker 7>from a don Quixote passage about how cute they mistook

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<v Speaker 7>windmills for evil giants. According to Dave Wilson in his

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<v Speaker 7>book Rock Formations, the name they Might Be Giants had

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<v Speaker 7>been used and subsequently discarded by a friend of the

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<v Speaker 7>band who had a ventriloquism act. In nineteen eighty three,

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<v Speaker 7>after a broken wrist and an apartment break in, they

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<v Speaker 7>were unable to play live, so they started diala song,

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<v Speaker 7>which was, according to Wikipedia, an answering machine with a

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<v Speaker 7>tape of the band playing various songs. The machine played

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<v Speaker 7>one track at a time, ranging from demos an uncomplete work,

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<v Speaker 7>to mock advertisements that the band had created. It became

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<v Speaker 7>so popular that the tagline was always busy, often broken.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, I dialed the number and it is disconnected.

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<v Speaker 7>They began playing in New York City's Lower East Side

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<v Speaker 7>at the Pyramid Club, first as a duo with Flansborough

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<v Speaker 7>and guitar Linelle on accordion and saxophone, accompanied by a

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<v Speaker 7>drum machine or pre recorded backing track on audio cassette.

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<v Speaker 7>They can't remember those that had.

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<v Speaker 4>To be a good show. No really.

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<v Speaker 7>They became the house band from nineteen eighty four to

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen eighty seven. They have recorded twenty three studio albums.

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<v Speaker 7>The song I picked for the show is from their

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<v Speaker 7>third album, Flood, which went platinum.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 7>It's awesome on Electure Records titled Stamboul Not from the Times.

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<v Speaker 2>Time and I think we should hear it in n Yah.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this song.

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<v Speaker 8>Tell it's Stanbul's Consentinople now it's just stan Bol the

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<v Speaker 8>Constantinople band A long time gone and Contantinople now jerk.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like automble late night break out.

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<v Speaker 8>The Constantinople because it is Stanbult the Consenttinopiso.

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<v Speaker 9>Do you but they Constantine?

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<v Speaker 3>She'll be waiting again?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Stanbul? Even old New York was once New AMSTERDAMN?

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<v Speaker 2>Why they change it?

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<v Speaker 9>I can't say.

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<v Speaker 2>People just like, way, take me back.

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<v Speaker 8>To Constantine open or you can't go back to Constantinople

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<v Speaker 8>ben a long time gone and consantin noble.

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<v Speaker 9>Why the Constantinople get the works?

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<v Speaker 2>That's no what it because about.

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<v Speaker 10>The Jerms.

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<v Speaker 11>Temple still Even Old New York was once New AMSTERDAMN.

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<v Speaker 2>Why they change it?

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<v Speaker 9>I can't say, you'll just like to better that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Stun bold is.

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<v Speaker 9>Consent, it's a noble.

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<v Speaker 8>Now it'sis stunt bold my consent and noble, but a

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<v Speaker 8>long time gone and consent to noble?

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<v Speaker 9>Why the content and noble get the works?

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<v Speaker 3>That's nobs.

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<v Speaker 9>It's about the terms. So take me back to content.

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<v Speaker 8>You can't go back to constantinoble, been a long time gone, Consantino, consentine, noble.

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<v Speaker 9>Get the works.

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<v Speaker 2>That's no long body's business. Bubble is Sanbol.

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<v Speaker 12>So good?

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<v Speaker 13>You cannot possibly be in a bad mood while listening

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<v Speaker 13>to that song?

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<v Speaker 6>Sure for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So there's a couple of reasons that I like this song.

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<v Speaker 7>For one, I lived in Istanbul for two years as

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<v Speaker 7>three and four year old, and no, I don't remember

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<v Speaker 7>much except making mud pies on the balcony and hearing

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<v Speaker 7>the moves in who is the official who calls people

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<v Speaker 7>to prayer five times a day from the mosques minaret.

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<v Speaker 7>The other reason is that their former former manager is

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<v Speaker 7>a high school friend of mine. Oh that's pretty cool,

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<v Speaker 7>I think. But the thing that blew my mind is

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<v Speaker 7>that this song is a cover. Yeah did anybody know that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>I knew that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was I was going to see yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>was going to mention that if you hadn't.

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<v Speaker 7>I was really surprised. This is from Wikipedia. It is

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<v Speaker 7>a nineteen fifty three novelty song with lyrics of course

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<v Speaker 7>you would know that.

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<v Speaker 6>Barbara, Where Are You?

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<v Speaker 7>With lyrics by Jimmy Kennedy and music by Nat Simon.

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<v Speaker 7>It was written on the five hundredth anniversary at the

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<v Speaker 7>fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans. The lyrics humorously refer

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<v Speaker 7>to the official renaming of the city of Constantinople to Istanbul.

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<v Speaker 7>The song's original release, performed by the Four Lads, was

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<v Speaker 7>certified as a Gold record. Numerous cover versions have been

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<v Speaker 7>recorded over the years, and most famously a nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 7>version by They Might Be Giants. They have won two

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<v Speaker 7>Grammy Awards, one four Bosamy the theme of Malcolm in

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<v Speaker 7>the Middle and here comes the one two three's Best

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<v Speaker 7>Children album. And they have sold over four million.

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<v Speaker 6>And they played in our area a bunch of times, right,

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<v Speaker 6>didn't they do fundraisers and stuff?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think some of them live there. I know

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<v Speaker 7>the manager, my friend lives up there.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, nice? Oh yeah, I forgot you're down there. Where

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<v Speaker 6>you know it's above freezing. Yay, Look how many degrees

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<v Speaker 6>it was today.

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<v Speaker 14>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 7>I never brag about that.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't need to, all right, Thanks Mercedes Neil.

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<v Speaker 4>You are up all right? Well, I uh, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>go as far out as Istanbul. I kept it pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much close to home because the geographical location I've chosen

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<v Speaker 4>for this topic is Boston, Massachusetts, a city that I've

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<v Speaker 4>visited many times now. Boston is the capital and the

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<v Speaker 4>most populated city in the state of Massachusetts. It covers

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<v Speaker 4>about forty eight and a half square miles and is

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<v Speaker 4>the cultural and financial center of the New England region.

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<v Speaker 4>The Greater Boston Metropolitan Area is home to about four

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<v Speaker 4>four point nine million people, making it the eleventh largest

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<v Speaker 4>metropolitan area in the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>Which is why it's so impossible to drive around.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god, yes, Well, Boston was founded by English Puritan

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<v Speaker 4>settlers back in sixteen thirty coincidentally, the year I got

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<v Speaker 4>my driver's license.

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<v Speaker 13>That explains a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's been home or is the home to several

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<v Speaker 4>historical events that happened during the American Revolution, including the

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<v Speaker 4>Boston Massacre, the Boston Tea Party, the Battle of Bunker

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<v Speaker 4>Hill and the legendary midnight ride of Paul Revere. Boston

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<v Speaker 4>My favorite?

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<v Speaker 13>That was my mom's favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, this song that I've chosen to represent the city

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<v Speaker 4>of Boston is a song called dirty Water by the

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<v Speaker 4>band The Standel's. The Standell's were an American garage rock

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<v Speaker 4>band from Los Angeles, California. Note the irony there, Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 4>not Boston. But they formed in nineteen sixty two, and

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<v Speaker 4>they've been credited for inspiring many of the punk rock

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<v Speaker 4>their biggest and most recognizable song, dirty Water, in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>named Ed Cobb, who incidentally wrote the song Tainted Love,

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<v Speaker 4>band Soft Cell in the nineteen eighties with its iconic

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<v Speaker 4>opening guitar riff. The song is actually kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>backhanded tribute to Boston. It's not exactly complimentary at all,

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<v Speaker 4>referencing in particular that then famously polluted Charles River that

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<v Speaker 4>to legend, some of the song was also inspired when

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<v Speaker 4>producer Cobb got mugged while he was in Boston, notably

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<v Speaker 4>the line in the song about muggers and thieves. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 4>other local references in this song include Boston University's women's curfew.

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<v Speaker 4>They used to make all the women they had to

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<v Speaker 4>be in their dorms at a certain hour, thus leading

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<v Speaker 4>to the line the frustrated women happened to be in

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<v Speaker 4>by twelve o'clock and the singer hoping that just once

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<v Speaker 4>those doors weren't locked. Oh, of course, and has the

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<v Speaker 4>obligatory nod to the infamous Boston strangler. Now in the end,

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<v Speaker 4>the singer ultimately professes and confesses his affection and adoration

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<v Speaker 4>for his hometown. So let's show Boston a little love

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<v Speaker 4>with some dirty water by the standouts.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell you a story down by the

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<v Speaker 2>bags of the river. Chob Ah, that's what's happened to baby.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's where you're finding.

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<v Speaker 15>Along with lovers, buggers and things of their cooeper.

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<v Speaker 10>But I love that Dirty Waters.

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<v Speaker 3>Your mind, you're no. Number one leak.

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<v Speaker 10>Frosted Winver, I mean a frustrated had to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yem by twelve o'clock. All that's a shame. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a wall shattan.

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<v Speaker 10>That just one dose doors.

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<v Speaker 2>One clocks like the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm prad.

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<v Speaker 16>But you.

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<v Speaker 17>You.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he loves it now. Band members on this

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<v Speaker 4>recording include drummer and lead vocalist Dick Dodd, a singing

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<v Speaker 4>drummer from we could have used that Yeah episode here Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>keyboardist Larry Tamblin, Tony Valentino on guitar and harmonica, and

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<v Speaker 4>Gary Lane on bass. Now, although Cobb received soul songwriting credit,

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<v Speaker 4>Larry Tamblin said that the band had completely rearranged the

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<v Speaker 4>song into what it became and they didn't get any

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<v Speaker 4>credit for that. So that figures further in irony involving

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<v Speaker 4>the song about Boston sung by a Los Angeles band

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<v Speaker 4>was that dirty Water first became a hit down in Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, breaking up, breaking out on the Orlando radio

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<v Speaker 4>station WLFDL okay wlof in January of nineteen sixty six. Now, overall,

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<v Speaker 4>the song peaked at number eight on the cash Box

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<v Speaker 4>chart and hit number eleven on the Billboard Hot one hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Dirty Water was also the title of the band's most

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<v Speaker 4>successful album, and that was their only nationally charting LP.

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<v Speaker 4>Dirty Water was included on Lenny Kaye's Influential Nuggets Garage

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<v Speaker 4>rock compilation in nineteen seventy two, and it's listed in

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<v Speaker 4>the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's five hundred Songs

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<v Speaker 4>That Shaped rock and Roll. The song has also been

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<v Speaker 4>traditionally played at Boston sporting events like baseball's Boston Red

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<v Speaker 4>Sox and hockey's Boston Bruins games. But perhaps the the

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<v Speaker 4>coolest thing about the Standels is that they appeared as

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<v Speaker 4>themselves on The Monsters TV show in nineteen sixty five. Yes, nice, else,

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<v Speaker 4>we're on the Monsters and it doesn't get any better

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<v Speaker 4>than that. Yep, my book. So enclosing, let me say

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<v Speaker 4>this that, having been born and raised here in the

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<v Speaker 4>New York metropolitan area, Boston is a nice place to visit,

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<v Speaker 4>but I wouldn't want to live there because I love

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<v Speaker 4>New York. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, thank you, Neil. That's a good one. I

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<v Speaker 6>suit the riff. As soon as I heard the beginning,

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, all right, yeah, I remember that. I

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<v Speaker 6>love that song. Yeah, and it's got the harmonica for

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<v Speaker 6>Gale right in the middle to make sure she's everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, thank you, Oh come on, yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a very tasteful harmonica short.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, sweet, just.

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<v Speaker 4>Like me any other any other instrument. Think about it,

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<v Speaker 4>what it It wouldn't make sense, you know what a

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<v Speaker 4>saxophone or you know what.

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<v Speaker 13>That's even worse.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, you know it's the perfect the perfect choice.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, good, thank you, Roger Rock excellent. We're going

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<v Speaker 6>to take our first real quick break. I think, Mercedes,

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<v Speaker 6>are you ducking out politely for something better? I guess.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for joining us. Made. We'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, and stick around everybody, We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 9>Hudson River Radio.

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<v Speaker 6>Your dog likes us.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Hudson River Radio dot Com.

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<v Speaker 6>And welcome back, Gail. We're up to you. So where

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<v Speaker 13>Well, let's see, there were so many, so many choices.

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<v Speaker 13>I chose a song by guns n' Roses it's called

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<v Speaker 13>Paradise City now. Guns n' Roses, as many of you

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<v Speaker 13>may know, is an American rock band formed in Los

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<v Speaker 13>Angeles in nineteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 5>I did not know.

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<v Speaker 13>They only started in nineteen eighty five. They drew members

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<v Speaker 13>from two other bands, La Guns, which apparently is still functioning,

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<v Speaker 13>and Hollywood Rose, which is not. They signed with Geffen

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<v Speaker 13>Records in nineteen eighty six. Now, the band's classic lineup

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<v Speaker 13>features vocalist Axel Rose, who people are gonna hate me,

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<v Speaker 13>but I honestly think he sounds a lot like Jannis Choplin.

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<v Speaker 13>Lead guitarist Slash aka Saul Hudson is much catchier, I

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<v Speaker 13>guess than Saul Hudson. Rhythm guitarist Isy Stradlin, bassist Duff McKagan,

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<v Speaker 13>and drummer Stephen Adler. These all sound like names of

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<v Speaker 13>guys I went to school with. It's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 13>it might be I didn't realize how many popular songs

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<v Speaker 13>came off of their first album. Their first album was

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<v Speaker 13>called Appetite for Destruction and it was released on July

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<v Speaker 13>twenty first, nineteen eighty seven. The first single called It's

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<v Speaker 13>So Easy, which I don't even know if I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 13>It was released exclusively in the UK on June fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 13>nineteen eighty seven, and that reached number eighty four on

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<v Speaker 13>the UK Singles Chart. In the United States, their debut

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<v Speaker 13>single from this album was Welcome to the Jungle, which

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<v Speaker 13>is pretty well known, served as the lead single in October,

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<v Speaker 13>accompanied by a music Feed video. There's so many songs

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<v Speaker 13>on this album that I really really like sweet Child

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<v Speaker 13>of Mine, which I'm addicted to. It reminds me of

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<v Speaker 13>my pets, but that's another story. That was the second

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<v Speaker 13>US single, and it originated as a poem axel Rose

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<v Speaker 13>wrote for his then girlfriend Aaron Everley. It's broad appeal

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<v Speaker 13>and heavy rotation on radio and MTV propelled it to

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<v Speaker 13>number one on the Billboard Hot one hundred. That was

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<v Speaker 13>the band's only chart topper. Slash later remarked, I hated

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<v Speaker 13>that song with a huge passion for the longest time,

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<v Speaker 13>and it turned out to be our hugest hit. Following

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<v Speaker 13>this success of Sweet Child of Mine, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 13>Jungle was reissued and reached number.

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<v Speaker 4>Seve in the US.

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<v Speaker 13>The song I Chose Paradise City peaked at number five,

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<v Speaker 13>and the album, Appetite for Destruction eventually reached number one

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<v Speaker 13>on the Billboard two hundred. This album has since sold

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<v Speaker 13>more than thirty million copies worldwide, including eighteen million in

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<v Speaker 13>the United States, making it the best selling debut album

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<v Speaker 13>in US history and the eleventh best selling album overall.

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<v Speaker 13>Now Paradise City was released as a single in January

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<v Speaker 13>nineteen eighty nine. It's the only song on the album

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<v Speaker 13>to feature a synthesizer, and it also hit number six

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<v Speaker 13>on the UK's Singles Chart. It peaked at number five

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<v Speaker 13>on the Billboard Hot one hundred.

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<v Speaker 6>And Let's have a listen, and.

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<v Speaker 13>Then I have something funny that's got to be partially

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<v Speaker 13>censored to say afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>Take Down, you know I don't have the screen and

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<v Speaker 3>a girl?

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<v Speaker 15>Oh yeah, yeah, tame Down's the paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the grasses, green and the girls.

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<v Speaker 10>Certain mind they were again, why remember most the devils

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<v Speaker 10>to the Dame, Save the Downs l Paradise.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the brassiest breed of the girls. Don't Britta.

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<v Speaker 10>All yeah, Save the Downs Paradise. It was the brassiest

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<v Speaker 3>Britt although you being man so far.

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<v Speaker 15>So brass in the character to go out doesn't okay,

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<v Speaker 10>Clay tags me down to the parade of the brasses

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<v Speaker 10>brain of the Girl's Opera. Yeah, take me down to

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<v Speaker 10>the paranda where the brasses brain of the girls up.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't know if that do all, but I think

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<v Speaker 13>that rocks.

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<v Speaker 6>My neck hurts now I'm getting hold.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait till you're my age.

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<v Speaker 13>Slash, the guitarist, had said that that song was written

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<v Speaker 13>in the back of a rental band as they were

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<v Speaker 13>on their way back from playing a gig in San

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<v Speaker 13>Francisco with the band Rock and Riders. He says that

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<v Speaker 13>the band was drinking and playing acoustic guitars. Is that

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<v Speaker 13>against the law?

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<v Speaker 6>Like p guitar while drunk? No depends.

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<v Speaker 4>For them. I think for them, I think it was mandatory.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's when.

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<v Speaker 13>Slash came up with the intro. Duff McKagan and Izzy

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<v Speaker 13>Stradlin started playing along Stash hearted s fifth Stash started

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<v Speaker 13>humming a melody when Axel Rose saying, take me down

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<v Speaker 13>to the Paradise City. Now keep that in mind, and

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<v Speaker 13>what what the last word would rhyme with? Because when

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<v Speaker 13>Axel sang the first line again, Slash shouted out, where

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<v Speaker 13>the girls are fat and they've got big fill in

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<v Speaker 13>the blank plural big foot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so there were a couple of words at rhyme

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<v Speaker 4>that I was but.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm rose finished with take me home.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all you need to know.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, Slash preferred his second line, but the rest of

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<v Speaker 13>the Found Rented Teeth. The rest of the band felt differently.

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<v Speaker 13>Slash was outvoted and they used the line that Axel

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<v Speaker 13>had written. The band then expanded upon the rest of

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<v Speaker 13>the lyrics in rounds. Finally, Slash wrapped up by coming

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<v Speaker 13>up with the heavy riff that drives the song, and

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<v Speaker 13>at their concerts it's usually performed last as an encore.

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<v Speaker 6>I've never seen them live me No, I haven't either,

428
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 6>And now I don't know how good he sounds, believe.

429
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:54.200
<v Speaker 4>It or not. Yeah, but I the only discrepancy I

430
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 4>have with them, I mean they were kind of marketed.

431
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, sitting in a you know, in

432
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.640
<v Speaker 4>the back of a van, you know, and drinking and

433
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 4>that's yeah, that's normal now that that that I can buy.

434
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.880
<v Speaker 4>But they were marketed as being this like like totally

435
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.359
<v Speaker 4>out of control, you know, drug addicted, alcoholic, you know,

436
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 4>just totally street urchins, just totally a mess, and that

437
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 4>that's rock and roll. But you don't make a record

438
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:27.839
<v Speaker 4>that sounds as good as that, because that record sounds phenomenal.

439
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 4>You don't make a record that sounds that good if

440
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 4>you're whacked out on booze and drugs. No, you make

441
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 4>records when you're whacked out on boos and drugs like

442
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers. You don't sound like Guns

443
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:42.519
<v Speaker 4>n' Roses.

444
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, assuming they're the ones who played everything.

445
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 4>True, I mean, but I'm just saying that, and I'm

446
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 4>not I'm not putting down the record. I'm just I'm

447
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:57.400
<v Speaker 4>just saying that the way that they were, you know,

448
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 4>as I said, they were marketed and people are like,

449
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:04.720
<v Speaker 4>yeah and no, you can't function now. And to prove

450
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 4>the point, when one of them members, the drummer Steven Adler,

451
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.559
<v Speaker 4>did get into some serious trouble, you know, being addicted

452
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 4>just and they threw him out of the band. So

453
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:21.200
<v Speaker 4>how bad, yeah, do you have to be to get

454
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.519
<v Speaker 4>thrown out of Guns and Roses for being you know

455
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.440
<v Speaker 4>on the front. Yeah, I think if you see what

456
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:27.519
<v Speaker 4>if you get what I'm saying.

457
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think it was tough though. Went back to college,

458
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 6>got a degree in business, was working, he was working

459
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 6>in finance.

460
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

461
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 6>And they they are the last metal like hair metal

462
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 6>kind of band that held on before grunge pushed everything

463
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 6>out and somehow they had longevity where others kind of

464
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 6>faded before them.

465
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 4>I had an album called Appetite for Self Destruction, but

466
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 4>it never went anywhere, just kind of fell apart.

467
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 6>Did you have to kick yourself out of the band?

468
00:33:56.240 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 4>It just yeah, it was like, you know, self fulfilling prophecy.

469
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 6>All right, that was a good one. All right, thanks Gail, Barbara,

470
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<v Speaker 6>We're up to you.

471
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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Well, so far we've heard some pretty lively tunes

472
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 1>and I am going to kick it down a notch.

473
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to begin by mentioning the name Epstein.

474
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<v Speaker 1>Now that I have your attention, allow me to elaborate.

475
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Jerry and the Pacemakers were the second band to be

476
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>signed to manager Brian Epstein, the first being, of course,

477
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>The Beatles. The band formed in nineteen fifty nine and

478
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>their first single was how Do You Do It? Released

479
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty three and recommended to them by George

480
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Martin after the Beatles had recorded it but decided against

481
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 1>releasing it.

482
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:57.119
<v Speaker 4>Wow does that recording exist anywhere?

483
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find it, I trust me, trust may I looked,

484
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>but we'll say yeah, I'd love to hear it. So

485
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the geographical theme song I chose happens to be one

486
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:12.199
<v Speaker 1>of my favorites. Ferry Cross the Mersey, written by Jerry

487
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Morrisden the Jerry in Jerry and the Pacemakers. It was

488
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>released in nineteen sixty four and was a hit in

489
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>both the US and the UK, reaching number six in

490
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 1>the US and number eight in the UK. The title

491
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 1>comes from the film of the same name, which starred

492
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Jerry and the Pacemakers and was considered to be their

493
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 1>version of the Beatles A Hard Day's Night. Not surprisingly,

494
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>the song Ferry Across the Mersey is an example of

495
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>music known as Mersey Beat, a British popular music genre

496
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 1>that developed around Liverpool in the nineteen fifties and early

497
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties. It combined influences from British and American rock

498
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.679
<v Speaker 1>and roll, RnB, skiffle, pop and music hall. So why

499
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 1>don't we hop on the ferry and listen to Across

500
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the Mersey.

501
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 14>Life goes on day after day, has torn in a everyway.

502
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 16>So fairy cristin Mersey, because this lands the place side

503
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 16>of I'm here.

504
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I'll stay.

505
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:48.920
<v Speaker 17>Be people they rush everywhere, be with their own secret cave.

506
00:36:52.559 --> 00:37:01.239
<v Speaker 16>So fairy cristin Mersey, and always take me the The

507
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 16>place is love.

508
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:09.760
<v Speaker 2>People around every corner.

509
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 18>They seem to smile and say, we don't.

510
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Care what your name is.

511
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.079
<v Speaker 17>Boy, We'll never tend you.

512
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 18>So I'll continue to say he I always will stay.

513
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 16>So fairy cross the Mersey, because this lands the place

514
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 16>silve I'm here, I'll stay and here I'll stay.

515
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 5>Here, say.

516
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:06.119
<v Speaker 13>So.

517
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Mersey refers to the River Mersey in northwest England, which

518
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:13.239
<v Speaker 1>flows into the Irish Sea at Liverpool. The Mersey Ferry

519
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>is a service that operates on the river, and fairies

520
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.079
<v Speaker 1>have been used on this route going back to at

521
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>least the twelfth century. Regarding the song title, the word

522
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>cross from the title is not a contraction of the

523
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 1>preposition across, but instead an imperative verb, as in ferry

524
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>comma cross the Mersey. The song is a love letter

525
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to Liverpool and a dedication to staying there and represents

526
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>a sense of belonging and finding peace. And I just

527
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's a beautiful song and it sounds so sixties

528
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 1>to me. I just love the way it sounds.

529
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:50.960
<v Speaker 6>San, I've always liked that.

530
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's so such a pretty sweet song, very

531
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 1>pretty and very peaceful. All right, thank you, not like us,

532
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I know. I think we fell asleep next to pods.

533
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:07.960
<v Speaker 11>Could be.

534
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.440
<v Speaker 6>It's nice to relax there once in a while. All right, thanks, Barb.

535
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.079
<v Speaker 6>One more quick break and we have one more to go,

536
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 6>so stick around because I think you're going to enjoy it.

537
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<v Speaker 4>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 9>Hudson Riverradio dot Com.

539
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<v Speaker 2>Hudson Riverradio dot Com.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, so I'm not going to tell you where

541
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.599
<v Speaker 6>my selection is. You'll figure that out at the end.

542
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if you guys have noticed, but recently

543
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:46.880
<v Speaker 6>politics is kind of a hot topic.

544
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

545
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear the first sentence to what I said today?

546
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 6>Fair enough? So the song we're going to talk about

547
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.559
<v Speaker 6>has found itself kind of in the middle of politics

548
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.400
<v Speaker 6>and patriotism over and over again since it came out.

549
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 6>But there's just no way I would make it that simple.

550
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 6>So just stick with me until the end. We start

551
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.079
<v Speaker 6>with the song God Blessed the USA, also known as

552
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.880
<v Speaker 6>Proud to Be an American, Written and sung by Lee Greenwood.

553
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:20.239
<v Speaker 6>The song was released in May nineteen eighty four on

554
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:25.400
<v Speaker 6>Greenwood's third album, You've Got a Good Love Coming, which

555
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 6>is harder to say than it should be. And I

556
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.960
<v Speaker 6>don't know what that means, but I'm not gonna We're

557
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:37.440
<v Speaker 6>just gonna keep moving on. Lee Greenwood is actually Melvin.

558
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 6>Lee Greenwood dropped the Melvin for some reason. He is

559
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:44.840
<v Speaker 6>now eighty three years old. He's still performing. He is

560
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.320
<v Speaker 6>from California, grew up on his grandparents farm. When his

561
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 6>parents split up. He started singing in church at age seven,

562
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 6>which a lot of our singers have done, and as

563
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.440
<v Speaker 6>he got older, rumors started go and especially as he

564
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.400
<v Speaker 6>made a big rumors started going around that he was

565
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 6>a draft dodger during Vietnam and fled to Canada, which is,

566
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:09.079
<v Speaker 6>to his credit, not true. He did say in an

567
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 6>interview with snopes dot Com, it angers me when I

568
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.800
<v Speaker 6>hear this. I never served in the military because I

569
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Speaker 6>had children. At the age of seventeen, I was given

570
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 6>the classification three A. The draft never got to that number.

571
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.159
<v Speaker 6>If it had, like my father, I would have left

572
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.480
<v Speaker 6>my wife and children for I know they would have

573
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 6>understood to fight and die from to fight and die

574
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 6>if necessary for my country. So I just want to

575
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 6>put rumors to resk give credit where credit is due.

576
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.880
<v Speaker 6>He wound up skipping college and supposedly a possible baseball

577
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:44.880
<v Speaker 6>career to sing and perform. One source said, a possible

578
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 6>baseball career. So I don't know how true that is.

579
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 6>I'm guessing every kid that played the little league could

580
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 6>have had a baseball career, so you could throw that

581
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.239
<v Speaker 6>on your resume. I don't really know how. Oh that

582
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.679
<v Speaker 6>was me, but I couldn't hit the curveball, so yeah,

583
00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 6>but it was a possible baseball career.

584
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.679
<v Speaker 4>Possible, it was possible. Not for me, me neither.

585
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 6>He moved to Las Vegas. He worked as a blackjack

586
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 6>dealer during the day and he sang in clubs in

587
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 6>the evening. His style shifted towards country music, and that

588
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.840
<v Speaker 6>got him a record contract. In nineteen eighty one. He

589
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.159
<v Speaker 6>and his band were touring. They would typically play three

590
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 6>hundred days a year, which is just insane. That is

591
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 6>a crazy amount of traveling. Three hundred nights per year. Yeah,

592
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:34.199
<v Speaker 6>and he always had the urge to write a patriotic

593
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 6>kind of song. Then on September one, nineteen eighty three,

594
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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if you remember, I was a little young,

595
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 6>but there was a Korean Airlines flight that was scheduled

596
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 6>to fly from JFK in New York City to Soul, Korea,

597
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 6>with a stop in Anchorage, Alaska. When the plane landed

598
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.599
<v Speaker 6>in Anchorage, when it took off again, it wound up

599
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.000
<v Speaker 6>drifting in and out of Soviet airspace twice. And this

600
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 6>was at the height of the Cold War. The Soviets

601
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 6>at the time were afraid of President Ronald Reagan. There

602
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 6>were computer issues with the plane, with air traffic control,

603
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.360
<v Speaker 6>all that kind of stuff, malfunctioning equipment. Things just went wrong.

604
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 6>The Soviet Union launched four meg fighters to intercept and

605
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Speaker 6>they wound up shooting the plane down, killing everybody on

606
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 6>board two hundred and sixty nine people. There were a

607
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 6>number of Americans on board, including a congressman, And it

608
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 6>was this event that prompted Lee to put pen to

609
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 6>paper and write the patriotic song that he.

610
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Wanted to do.

611
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:37.960
<v Speaker 6>So God Bless the USA was released in May nineteen

612
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 6>eighty four. Like I said, it was included in a

613
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 6>film about Reagan at the nineteen eighty four Republican National Convention.

614
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 6>He performed it at the nineteen eighty eight RNC for

615
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 6>George Herbert Walker Bush. It became popular again in nineteen

616
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 6>ninety during the Gulf War, so he re recorded it

617
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:59.360
<v Speaker 6>in nineteen ninety two. Then nine to eleven happened, and

618
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 6>the song came back. Then in two thousand and three

619
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:07.000
<v Speaker 6>the invasion of Iraq when he re re re recorded it.

620
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.280
<v Speaker 6>I think I have the right number of reason there again.

621
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 6>And it was used extensively in the last three presidential

622
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:18.519
<v Speaker 6>elections by the Republican Party, as I'm sure you've heard.

623
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.360
<v Speaker 6>So Greenwood has capitalized on the success of this song,

624
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.719
<v Speaker 6>and I don't blame him. If you have a hit,

625
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 6>get what you can get out of it. I'm okay

626
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:32.760
<v Speaker 6>with that. But twist time, the song has been used

627
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 6>also extensively at naturalization ceremonies where immigrants become naturalized citizens

628
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 6>of the United States, and they would play the song

629
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 6>something to be proud of if it's your song. But

630
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 6>proud in quotes doesn't have monetary value. So Lee Greenwood

631
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.400
<v Speaker 6>forced the government into a settlement and he now gets

632
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 6>seven hundred dollars per year to allow them to use

633
00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 6>the song at naturalization ceremonies, not a lot of but

634
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:03.159
<v Speaker 6>still that just doesn't sit well with me.

635
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 4>I have to admit.

636
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:07.559
<v Speaker 6>The awkward silence.

637
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Across the panel. Proud to be a capitalist? I think exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it's such a token amount that I don't

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<v Speaker 6>I don't get it, you know, But all right, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what? Sure song? Is that good enough?

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<v Speaker 13>No?

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<v Speaker 6>Am I going to leave the story there? No, he's

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<v Speaker 6>proud to be an American, but he's also proud to

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<v Speaker 6>be somewhere else Canada. In nineteen eighty nine, he changed

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<v Speaker 6>some lyrics, very very few of the lyrics to make

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00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:42.079
<v Speaker 6>the song about Canada, and then he would sing that

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<v Speaker 6>version when he would tour in the Great White North. Eh,

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00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 6>how about that? So let's hear God Bless You Canada

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<v Speaker 6>by Lee Greenwood.

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<v Speaker 5>If tomorrow all things well gone.

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<v Speaker 19>Work wrong my life.

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<v Speaker 5>And I had to start again, just my children, and.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank my lucky stars to be living here today because

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<v Speaker 12>the flag.

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00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:21.679
<v Speaker 5>Still stands for freedom and they can't take away.

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00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:32.599
<v Speaker 19>And I'm proud to be in Canada. Wearingly stangl I'm free,

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<v Speaker 19>and I won't forget the men who died who gave

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<v Speaker 19>that right to me, And I'm glady stand next to

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<v Speaker 19>you and defend hers to today because they're a new down.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this lave, God bless you Canada.

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<v Speaker 5>From the shores of Nova Scotia to the forest INBC.

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<v Speaker 12>Montreal, to win a pit from seed to shiny sea.

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<v Speaker 3>From Detroit.

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<v Speaker 12>We can see her above the unsay because there's bride

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<v Speaker 12>in every Canadian heart.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's time and stand.

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<v Speaker 5>In sane.

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00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 2>That ambout to be in Canada where it is nine.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm free, and I'll both forget the men who died

670
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:55.800
<v Speaker 12>who gave that fight to me, and I'm glad to stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Next to you and defend her to today us.

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<v Speaker 20>I read no down, got the s Canada, and I'm

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<v Speaker 20>bound to be in Canada very this time library.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody who died today that right to hold meet, and

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<v Speaker 2>I climbed these day next to you and defend her

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<v Speaker 2>fill today. Does I read no doubt on this head, godless.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know how to come out of that song.

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<v Speaker 4>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I will admit that I've never met a Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I met four of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we know that.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, Barbara brought it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 6>All the rest of them were fine, but those four.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to college in Buffalo, and I spent every

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<v Speaker 1>weekend in Canada. I love Canadians.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, been there a bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 4>I yeah, I had a couple of vacations there. And

691
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<v Speaker 4>this is back in the eighties, so yeah, I was

692
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:35.440
<v Speaker 4>enjoying their you know, favorite beverage there, you know, Mulson's

693
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:41.639
<v Speaker 4>and all. Yeah. And we and the people that I

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00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:44.719
<v Speaker 4>went with had you know, they had gone there a lot,

695
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:46.199
<v Speaker 4>and they knew some of the people, so you know,

696
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 4>they had their friends there. And in the morning we'd

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<v Speaker 4>hear this very familiar like crack popish the opening of

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<v Speaker 4>a can of beer. And we said, and we look

699
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<v Speaker 4>at this, it's like eight o'clock in the morning. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's a Canadian alarm clock.

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<v Speaker 1>It's made from wheat, it's breakfast, it's good for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, of course, when in Rome went in Canada, it

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<v Speaker 4>passed me one of those you know, Okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I went to college up north. Barbarie went out west.

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00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 6>I was north in near the Canadian border, so we

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<v Speaker 6>would go across every once in a while. The drinking

707
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<v Speaker 6>age was nineteen. I was never a big drinker, but

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<v Speaker 6>like you could have one and be like all right,

709
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<v Speaker 6>and it was cheaper because of the exchange rate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>well then you come back.

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<v Speaker 1>The drink in Asia was eighteen when I went, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when it changed in nineteen, I was already nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>so what didn't matter. And I will have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Niagara Falls in the middle of winter when it's frozen,

715
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<v Speaker 1>is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that I've done. And oh my god, it's cold.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just it's a different cold, but it's for the trip. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 6>I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember one spring break the snow coming up to

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<v Speaker 1>my second floor dormitory window.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, all right, Well that's all I've got.

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<v Speaker 6>I think, I think that's it. That was a good

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<v Speaker 6>trip around the world. I like it, all right. And

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<v Speaker 6>I had just enough Harmonica to get get Gail GMing,

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<v Speaker 6>so that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't even planned and it worked out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, sometimes you get lucky. All right, Well, good selections.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, Crambone. So I appreciate all the effort as always,

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<v Speaker 6>and thank you all for joining us here for the

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<v Speaker 6>Rock and Roll History Show. Don't forget to subscribe in

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<v Speaker 6>shows we do at Hudson River Radio because there really

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<v Speaker 6>is something for everybody. We're off next week, but we'll

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<v Speaker 6>be back in two weeks with another brand new episode,

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<v Speaker 6>so until then, be safe, Thank you everybody, and have

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<v Speaker 6>a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock cop Bottom and Cram.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Bye bye.

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