Speaker 1: I think we could see this break back down and
Speaker 1: retest just below a dollar. People in the retail are
Speaker 1: running for the exits because the prices are bottoming out
Speaker 1: all over the place.
Speaker 2: We got a dollar crisis.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a step change and inflection point.
Speaker 1: I believe that takes place. Paul one hundred and fourteen
Speaker 1: trillion in assets tokenized in less than fifty days.
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Speaker 3: and we've talked about it before of hitting one dollar,
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Speaker 4: We'll kind of reference that, and then.
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Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Paul, how are you going?
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Speaker 2: If you look at that price tag right quick before
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 4: I was looking on one in eBay the other day.
Speaker 3: It's about twelve thousand, right, that sounds about right. I
Speaker 3: collect guitars.
Speaker 4: I have a few of those hanging around.
Speaker 3: My favorites are, of course the stratocasters. But listen, there's
Speaker 3: a there's a handful hanging right over there. But one
Speaker 3: day I need to do a tour of my collectibles.
Speaker 2: You should do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I collect drum sets. But my wife gets so upset.
Speaker 1: She's like, you can only play one set at a time.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's how many guitars do you hang on the wall?
Speaker 3: You know, we don't have any more walls. You're running
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Speaker 4: All right, Brad, we got to talk about a few.
Speaker 3: Things, and one of the big things I want to
Speaker 3: talk about is what's going on right now with your.
Speaker 4: Tweet right here.
Speaker 3: You had a tweet out there that said four hundred
Speaker 3: trillion upside. That's a lot of upside for protocols like XRP,
Speaker 3: and you were talking about tokenization on chain and where
Speaker 3: the growth is heading for XRP in general, and I
Speaker 3: think the Ledger. When you think about RWA's right now
Speaker 3: and the real possibility of growth and scale, you have
Speaker 3: to remember that Ripple is still one of the smaller
Speaker 3: holders in terms of the number of actual participants in
Speaker 3: Ripple or I should say, XRP, Ledger, RBA. Do you
Speaker 3: think what do you think it's going to take to
Speaker 3: grow into retail because that's mostly institutional.
Speaker 2: I think it's such a great question.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's going to take passing the Clarity Act.
Speaker 2: Right, I think it's going to take that. Look.
Speaker 1: To me, the Clarity Act is the catalyst for this market.
Speaker 1: We already have the Genius Act for stable coins, and
Speaker 1: as Representative French Hill has said, which I think is
Speaker 1: so spot on, having the Genius Act and not having
Speaker 1: the Clarity Act is like having cell phones but then
Speaker 1: not having legislation for the cell phone towers. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's literally, I believe, the perfect analogy for.
Speaker 2: Where we are here. We need that.
Speaker 1: Market infrastructure, build a Clarity Act pass so then we
Speaker 1: can see the traditional financial companies and entities that are
Speaker 1: going to tokenize these real world assets and bring them
Speaker 1: on chain and they know that they can do it
Speaker 1: safely once they have legislation passed.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the point behind RWA is when you
Speaker 3: look at real world app I think we're going to
Speaker 3: see a lot more products and projects accelerating. But I
Speaker 3: think the bridge for you know, XRPL to truly get
Speaker 3: to an RWA threshold that is going to be nirvana.
Speaker 3: It's somehow cracking that code on retail because at some
Speaker 3: point we will see retail involved in this area. And
Speaker 3: I think it's just a matter of time. You know,
Speaker 3: just look at what Flair is doing. You know, when
Speaker 3: you look at flaira ihead you go on last week,
Speaker 3: this is pretty big deal because now if you're a
Speaker 3: token holder, you can put all of your XRP to
Speaker 3: work in DEFT.
Speaker 4: First of all, let me ask you this.
Speaker 3: Do you like the idea of using your XRP and
Speaker 3: creating a f XRP token and using this in DeFi?
Speaker 3: Would you do this as a as an OG and
Speaker 3: with XRP.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'm very excited about all possibilities
Speaker 1: to put my assets to work. Okay, So, whether we're
Speaker 1: talking about a FLAIR situation or a different DeFi situation
Speaker 1: like maybe Lantern right or somebody like that, being able
Speaker 1: to take my assets and put them to work are
Speaker 1: absolutely mission critical for me.
Speaker 2: And actually, to go a step further, it is like the.
Speaker 1: Final one of the final steps of being in this
Speaker 1: digital asset space. Look, I'm here to create generational wealth, right,
Speaker 1: and not just I don't want to just get wealthy.
Speaker 1: I want to create generational wealth and actually doing that
Speaker 1: means putting your assets to work for you and being
Speaker 1: able to turn around and chase other things that have
Speaker 1: an ROI as well.
Speaker 2: And whether it look whether it's Flair, whether it's Lantern.
Speaker 1: I think these options that are coming to market are
Speaker 1: going to be the way that you really unlock retail,
Speaker 1: as you said, but look, I'll go a step further here.
Speaker 1: Flair actually is set up also to serve the institutional side,
Speaker 1: and I would remind people as well with XRP. Look
Speaker 1: at Ripple Prime. Look at the last couple acquisitions that
Speaker 1: were made by Ripple g Treasury and Hidden Road now
Speaker 1: rebranded to Ripple Treasury and Ripple Prime. That is sixteen
Speaker 1: trillion dollars in actual volume done every year that is
Speaker 1: now under Ripple's umbrella. Now, I know that they haven't
Speaker 1: used digital assets up until now, but that sixteen trillion
Speaker 1: now lives under Ripples umbrella. So it's really again comes
Speaker 1: back to this catalyst being able to use these assets
Speaker 1: and then you start to see them going to work,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what unlocks the entire well.
Speaker 3: And it's just a matter of time because we're seeing
Speaker 3: I was just on a conference yesterday with some partners
Speaker 3: that we work with, and the amount of innovation that
Speaker 3: is coming to us. It boggles the mind of where
Speaker 3: we're going to see new products, new services and It's
Speaker 3: not going to be long before we are completely pulled
Speaker 3: away from the traditional finance system. That's why I think
Speaker 3: this fight has been so bloody in DC is that
Speaker 3: I think they know it's coming and it's just a
Speaker 3: matter of time. And now you've got we'll talk about
Speaker 3: the SEC canceling their meeting of why with all that,
Speaker 3: but I think it's just a matter of time to
Speaker 3: your point be where we see this unlock start to move.
Speaker 3: Speaking of that, you've got an unlock happening right now.
Speaker 4: You've got whales.
Speaker 3: Accumulating seventy two million tokens in twenty four hours. This
Speaker 3: is a very interesting point because we had XRP hit
Speaker 3: its weakest since November. The sentiment is way down on
Speaker 3: XRP right now. And then I had Gareth Soloway on
Speaker 3: our show, the main Show this week, and he gave
Speaker 3: SRP a bullish rating because he liked the fact that
Speaker 3: he thought this was the point where XRP would start
Speaker 3: its rise again. And that is holding around this one
Speaker 3: dollar market did dip below the other day slightly, But
Speaker 3: what do you think defense at one dollar or do
Speaker 3: we see this break.
Speaker 1: You know, I think we could see this break back
Speaker 1: down and retest just below a dollar.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, I'm not.
Speaker 1: A technical charts guy. I do cover it on my
Speaker 1: channel and those types of things. But just looking at
Speaker 1: history's pass with XRP, there have been a certain amount
Speaker 1: of touches, three or four touches where it comes back
Speaker 1: to that baseline, and it is so very close to
Speaker 1: doing so again where we sit right now, and if
Speaker 1: you look at the fundamental news where.
Speaker 2: We are exactly we don't have the Clarity Act. We don't.
Speaker 2: We got them. Everybody went the recess.
Speaker 1: So do you have this downward pressure just in the
Speaker 1: fundamental news that kind of supports the idea that we
Speaker 1: could go a little lower before.
Speaker 2: Things bottom out and turn around.
Speaker 4: Well, you got a hedge too, guys.
Speaker 3: If you're anticipating clarity and going through what a great
Speaker 3: time you know this is if you are not an
Speaker 3: XRP getting exposures, you know, because we know, I think
Speaker 3: the market knows XRP will be one of the major
Speaker 3: winners just because of ripples positioning in DC. And if
Speaker 3: it doesn't go through, there may be some alternatives here
Speaker 3: that start to move beyond.
Speaker 4: One of those could be this right here.
Speaker 3: Because Canada, of course one of their big banks now
Speaker 3: moving into SRPA of the Bank of Montreal, another major
Speaker 3: Canadian bank, to disclose XRP exposure. And I don't think
Speaker 3: it's going to be very long. And we've talked about
Speaker 3: the Japan news, I think enough. But what's happening in Japan,
Speaker 3: what's happening in other countries. I think South America has
Speaker 3: got some things brewing right now. I won't say too
Speaker 3: much about that, but there are some very interesting moves
Speaker 3: getting ready to happen in South America.
Speaker 4: I think that will be related to XRP. So what
Speaker 4: do you think?
Speaker 3: Do you think this is just we win regardless clarity,
Speaker 3: no clarity, there's just too much adoption happening.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a great question. Again.
Speaker 1: Look, I think where we're at here is we can't
Speaker 1: lose sight of the fact. Look to your point about
Speaker 1: the news here from the Bank of Montreal.
Speaker 2: This goes back to.
Speaker 1: A years year's deep relationship with RBC, Royal Bank of
Speaker 1: Canada and Ripple, And we're talking about going back to
Speaker 1: like twenty fifteen, right, Like this is a long time
Speaker 1: ago we're talking about these relationships. So Ripple has been
Speaker 1: working to build this infrastructure for almost fifteen years now,
Speaker 1: so they have deep relationships, whether it's the Bank of Montreal,
Speaker 1: the Royal Bank of Canada, or many other banks, including
Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve and the Faster Payments Task Force right
Speaker 1: here at home in the US. What I would really
Speaker 1: point to Paul for people to not get lost on
Speaker 1: is the idea in understanding that the DTCC has Ripple
Speaker 1: Prime smack dab in the middle of that tokenization live
Speaker 1: experiment and approach that's happening.
Speaker 2: It's not even experiment, it's just live production.
Speaker 1: And we need to remember that the DTCC has been
Speaker 1: issued a three year no action letter from the SEC.
Speaker 1: So this great here that tells that's catalysts right there
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: And all we.
Speaker 1: Need to see is the approval of Pointing to the
Speaker 1: SEC meeting that's been rescheduled. Here, it was rumored that
Speaker 1: they were going to come out and suggest that or
Speaker 1: open the door for everyone to tokenize on chains like Stellar, Solana,
Speaker 1: XRP Ledger and entities like that, and start using tokenized
Speaker 1: stocks and bonds on chain. Now that meet has been rescheduled,
Speaker 1: so we don't know if that was actually going to
Speaker 1: be the meet of the meeting, but you start thinking
Speaker 1: to yourself, if it was right. That looks to me
Speaker 1: like putting an immense amount of pressure on the Senate
Speaker 1: to pass.
Speaker 2: The Clarity Act.
Speaker 1: And it also looks to be setting the stage for
Speaker 1: the fact that the SEC has already given a no
Speaker 1: action letter to the largest clearing and settlement platform in
Speaker 1: the world of token stocks and bonds. So to me,
Speaker 1: we're sitting here plugged in and people in the retail
Speaker 1: are running for the exits because the prices are bottoming
Speaker 1: out all over the place.
Speaker 2: But the truth is it's like we're.
Speaker 1: Seeing more adoption we set up and put in the
Speaker 1: gate ready to go.
Speaker 3: That's a very good point because this is what we
Speaker 3: have seen over multiple cycles.
Speaker 4: Yes, these last few months.
Speaker 3: Of a bear market typically are unfortunately the most damaging
Speaker 3: to retail because in most cases retail just don't have
Speaker 3: they don't have the wherewithal to really weather these kinds
Speaker 3: of markets. And hey, listen, this happens in regular stock
Speaker 3: markets too. Don't get me wrong. This is not a
Speaker 3: just scrypto thing. It happens in gold. If you look
Speaker 3: at the gold chart, I'll bring it up in a
Speaker 3: little bit. All of these get a little bit of
Speaker 3: I think correction, and we may still see another correction here.
Speaker 3: So don't don't think you're out of the blue completely.
Speaker 3: But I just look at all of the things that
Speaker 3: are happening back to your point fundamentals, the amount of
Speaker 3: runway that's being created. This was a piece I just
Speaker 3: put out yesterday or now. Actually I just dropped this
Speaker 3: this morning. And Rakkoton, which is a company I've worked
Speaker 3: with in other industries, because they're very tied into retail.
Speaker 3: These guys are like the Amazon of Japan. They now
Speaker 3: are connected directly and this is a widespread consumer payment
Speaker 3: platform called raccoton Pay, which is huge, it's like forty
Speaker 3: four million. But again this is because they are so
Speaker 3: tied into what's happening in Japan, and Japan of course
Speaker 3: is don't get me going on Japan, where there's a
Speaker 3: lot more happening over there. But this just goes to
Speaker 3: your point. It's just a matter of time before this
Speaker 3: all starts tumbling in on the market and everybody you know,
Speaker 3: won't It won't matter where the price is, because I
Speaker 3: think the market is going to correct accordingly, you know, to.
Speaker 1: Speak further to your point here, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I think you know two of the biggest key factors
Speaker 1: for XRP price to go up, specifically because this is
Speaker 1: a utility asset, a bridge asset, a payment asset, however.
Speaker 2: You like to refer to it. You know, a utility token.
Speaker 1: You know, when you think about something that has actual
Speaker 1: use case utility. I got to be honest, you know,
Speaker 1: like when I start looking at the real total addressable market,
Speaker 1: what's really sitting in front of us, it's quite massive.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, just to the point when you opened up.
Speaker 1: The show you talked about securitize this tweet, when they
Speaker 1: talked about four hundred trillion dollar opportunity for real world
Speaker 1: asset tokenization. The market that sits in front of us,
Speaker 1: and it will be a multi chain world.
Speaker 2: I absolutely sure, you know.
Speaker 1: But this opportunity that sits specifically in front of assets
Speaker 1: with utility like XRP is just absolutely massive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: It's pretty insane. Kudos to ever North. They of course
Speaker 3: went in and repriced obviously for current pricing regions because
Speaker 3: or reasons, because they originally had their deals stuck in
Speaker 3: at around two thirty. Now token trading at a buck.
Speaker 3: So I think this just shows you the consistency of
Speaker 3: whatever North was trying to do. Good Actors like this
Speaker 3: I think are out there going, hey, no problem, we'll understand,
Speaker 3: we'll ebb and flow with the market here. It's just
Speaker 3: a matter of time before we see this start to
Speaker 3: really change up.
Speaker 4: So get ready.
Speaker 3: I think that kind of faith just to me, that
Speaker 3: shows even more faith.
Speaker 4: In the projects that we're seeing right now.
Speaker 3: Do you see more whales buying in right now or
Speaker 3: do you think people are still on the sidelines.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I see more whales buying right now. I just covered
Speaker 1: in an article where we saw more buying over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks from whale accounts and those size of wallets. Look,
Speaker 1: I think the number is seventy four percent plus of all.
Speaker 1: I think it's out of the one million wallet holders
Speaker 1: of XRP, seventy four point one percent of the total
Speaker 1: circulating supply is locked up.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: That's happening during a down market, right And I want
Speaker 1: to speak to the point that you've made about ever
Speaker 1: North very quickly, because what a great company I think
Speaker 1: is lying in the weight there now. Going back to
Speaker 1: October twenty five is all time highs. We saw the
Speaker 1: market crash and we saw a lot of digital asset
Speaker 1: treasuries go bust, and I believe the reason for that
Speaker 1: is is because those digital asset treasuries, majority of them
Speaker 1: have bitcoin in them. Now I hold bitcoin in an IRA,
Speaker 1: so don't send me to hate mail.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying that.
Speaker 1: You know, these digital asset treasury didn't hold utility style assets,
Speaker 1: and that's the difference.
Speaker 2: That's why I call them dogs.
Speaker 1: If you want a digital asset treasury to live, you
Speaker 1: need a DAUT which is a digital asset utility treasury.
Speaker 1: And that's why I believe ever North is going to live.
Speaker 1: That's why they made the change they did to back
Speaker 1: a share price and I believe that that over time
Speaker 1: really speaks, like you said, in good faith of standing
Speaker 1: behind the asset and the products you're offering. It lets
Speaker 1: everybody know that going forward, this asset has utility and
Speaker 1: it will it will survive because it has the value
Speaker 1: within its utility. That is what was missing from the
Speaker 1: first round of digital asset treasure.
Speaker 3: Well, to your point is the utility component I think
Speaker 3: is going to start to become a major recognizing point
Speaker 3: and probably one of the tier one decision tree asset
Speaker 3: considerations that all of the major investors are going to
Speaker 3: look at you know, how you know, how's it, what's
Speaker 3: the utility use case? What is there a potential opportunity here,
Speaker 3: which I think eventually we're going to see some staking activity,
Speaker 3: just like what we see on eth around some of these.
Speaker 4: Dots, and that will change the game as well.
Speaker 3: And the reason, the reason all of this is important
Speaker 3: is very simple, guys, when you look at the value
Speaker 3: of the dollar, and I don't know if you saw
Speaker 3: Bielo's tweet, but this guy kind of hit it on
Speaker 3: the head in the sense of where this is all heading,
Speaker 3: and that is only one place, and that is get
Speaker 3: away from the dollar as fast as you can. And
Speaker 3: what we're talking about of five hundred and fifty billions
Speaker 3: since July is what the national debt has increased. That's
Speaker 3: July first, that's last month. Okay, guys, last month, July one,
Speaker 3: we are edging in on forty trillion in debt. So listen,
Speaker 3: printers are going to continue here.
Speaker 1: I want to speak into this because you're making such
Speaker 1: a great point. Look, you know, whether we're talking about
Speaker 1: digital asset treasuries, digital asset utility treasuries.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, with adults, you know, coming back.
Speaker 1: To what's the problem. Well, the problem is we got
Speaker 1: we got a debt problem. We got a dollar crisis.
Speaker 1: It's not like it was in eighth nine that was
Speaker 1: a real estate default swap crisis.
Speaker 2: The problem now is at central bank doorstep.
Speaker 1: It is the problem of the dollar, right, It is
Speaker 1: the problem of the debata destination, is the problem of
Speaker 1: the overprinting.
Speaker 2: It's all come home to roost. And there is.
Speaker 1: How you get a new asset class born known as
Speaker 1: digital assets. There is how you get digital dollars. There
Speaker 1: is how you get things like a utility bridge asset
Speaker 1: like XRP. And I'll remind people of what I was
Speaker 1: going to say earlier. There's two words that really come
Speaker 1: to mind here when you're thinking about as you asked
Speaker 1: about Flare and the DeFi opportunity there, or the lannerings
Speaker 1: of the world, or how about the DTCC that we
Speaker 1: talked about and the four plus quadrillion they're clearing and
Speaker 1: settling every year, and knowing entities like Ripple Prime or
Speaker 1: Connected Rate in the middle of that.
Speaker 2: Because they can help with a very very crucial part.
Speaker 1: To all of this equation that utility, if it has utility,
Speaker 1: then that means it's going to have a great need
Speaker 1: for collateral, and that means it could be used as margin.
Speaker 2: And now you're talking about the word we all want
Speaker 2: to talk about, which is scarcity, because once.
Speaker 1: We see the use and adoption of these assets, because
Speaker 1: to your point about the dollar and the debt settling
Speaker 1: transactions right now, Fiat to fiat on each end is
Speaker 1: very costly.
Speaker 2: It's expensive. And when you can then do these same
Speaker 2: transactions for eight hundred thousands of a penny instead of
Speaker 2: the cost of it is of a Fiat transaction payments,
Speaker 2: it completely shifts. And when that happens, you see a
Speaker 2: landslide and tsunami to gather up this asset because they
Speaker 2: can use it for collateral because it's more cost effective
Speaker 2: and efficient and time saving. So when you have that happen,
Speaker 2: there's going to be a step change and inflection. I
Speaker 2: believe it takes place, Paul, and then the rest will
Speaker 2: take care of itself well.
Speaker 3: And there are some other indicators here. Of course you
Speaker 3: guys are seeing on tcreing the debt situation, but you
Speaker 3: also have the US retail sales numbers came in, So
Speaker 3: this is a sudden shift in negative US retail sales,
Speaker 3: and when you have consumer spending right now, which right
Speaker 3: now I think it accounts for like seventy percent of
Speaker 3: the US GDP.
Speaker 4: When this turns negative.
Speaker 3: Of course, whether you look at control metrics or not,
Speaker 3: it literally shifts the global macroeconomic macro backdrop from what
Speaker 3: has been somewhat resilient growth to right now. What we're
Speaker 3: talking about is a slowdown, all right, So you've got
Speaker 3: a slowdown in the economy coming. You could look at
Speaker 3: an increased FED rate cut expectation because of this. That
Speaker 3: would be a bullish driver. This is the mechanism. The
Speaker 3: impact on crypto alone for lower interest rates would be
Speaker 3: huge because the yield on cash right now, especially for
Speaker 3: government bonds and US treasuries, completely shift over to other
Speaker 3: crypto assets, which I think XRP is going to be
Speaker 3: one of those that wins there. So what do you
Speaker 3: think about the dollar continuing to soften globally though?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, I've had a theory for
Speaker 1: a long time that the reason President Trump wanted to
Speaker 1: push the dollar strength and the market's up so high
Speaker 1: is because there would be a devaluing at some point.
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you want to take the market as
Speaker 1: strong as it can go to be able to handle
Speaker 1: whatever correction it's going to be going under, right, So
Speaker 1: I absolutely believe that. And listen, I mean history says
Speaker 1: it's going to happen too. We go back to the
Speaker 1: Plaza Accords of nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2: They devalued the dollar for.
Speaker 1: France, Germany, Japan, right because they were all getting crushed
Speaker 1: by the strength of the dollar. And here we are
Speaker 1: again finding ourselves in a similar like situation, not exactly,
Speaker 1: but in a similar like situation, only even worse this
Speaker 1: time because the numbers.
Speaker 2: Are much larger.
Speaker 1: So I think Kevin Worrish cutting rates would send this market.
Speaker 3: Oh, it would go, it would go nuts. And you
Speaker 3: know they're the point right here that they're making is
Speaker 3: the question now is whether the FED reads this as
Speaker 3: a cooling that it wanted or is at the start
Speaker 3: of something it moved too slowly on to stop. So
Speaker 3: if because this is one of those very slippery slopes,
Speaker 3: once you start to see a GDP start to slide,
Speaker 3: it takes a long time for retail to correct.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if retail continue, remember.
Speaker 3: It's a lagging market, and if you haven't responded to
Speaker 3: be able to offset this. This immediately hits one of
Speaker 3: the biggest things that I've been talking about for a while,
Speaker 3: and that is the earnings of these companies. And remember, guys,
Speaker 3: we are setting on an S and P five hundred
Speaker 3: right now. That's what at seventy nine hundred almost, and
Speaker 3: it's all because of earnings, because earnings haven't slowed down.
Speaker 3: This right here is the first nail in the coffin
Speaker 3: that could be showcasing.
Speaker 4: So pay attention, guys if.
Speaker 3: You're not, because when you see a liquid rotation out
Speaker 3: of the S and P, if we start to see
Speaker 3: a pull off, just to pull that chart up to
Speaker 3: show you, guys, that's the S and P five hundred
Speaker 3: over the last few days. Yeah, gets a little scary
Speaker 3: when you have a GDP that's showing its first sign
Speaker 3: of weakness.
Speaker 1: And then on top to your point too, you know,
Speaker 1: Kevin worsh has said that he's going to be a
Speaker 1: hands off as much as possible for sure, guy, So
Speaker 1: he really kind of it's you know, he's less the
Speaker 1: Canesian method and more the Austrian economic method, which is
Speaker 1: less central bank engagement and intervention.
Speaker 3: Right, yep, exactly. Well, everybody's been hating on him for that.
Speaker 3: He's kind of been in the point of, hey, let's
Speaker 3: just let the market do what the market does. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, show us the direction now. Granted, you need
Speaker 3: to be as a fed to be able to anticipate
Speaker 3: some of this stuff, which is where Powell was so
Speaker 3: bad at it of anticipating where the market was heading.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people will argue that, but
Speaker 3: I think the concern we're in right now is a
Speaker 3: big one. It's also why you're seeing gold, you know,
Speaker 3: spiking right now going into this GDP slowdown. So there's
Speaker 3: a lot of factors here that you have to put
Speaker 3: into consideration around all of this. Brad when you consider,
Speaker 3: you know, not only the current situation right now on
Speaker 3: economic growth, because this is going to be positive, I
Speaker 3: think for eventually for crypto. How long before And this
Speaker 3: is asked to me a lot. We do these private
Speaker 3: seminars here in Florida, and I do it for new
Speaker 3: people that they're not in crypto. Okay, they're business owners,
Speaker 3: mostly high networth individuals some of them, and they all
Speaker 3: asked me kind of the question of how long before
Speaker 3: you see mainstream adoption? And I'm like, well, listen, mainstream
Speaker 3: adoption can barely happen right now unless you want to
Speaker 3: get really sweaty nerd know, because you have to know
Speaker 3: how to go build a trust line. You've got to
Speaker 3: be able to understand a DeFi wallet. Hell, even setting
Speaker 3: up an exchange account is a little bit bizarre to
Speaker 3: someone who's never done it.
Speaker 4: So and much less. Let's don't even talk about self custody, but.
Speaker 3: That in itself is like the point I'm getting at
Speaker 3: is I think it's just a matter of what we've
Speaker 3: got is a ux problem.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's the user interface of crypto right now. It sucks. Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: what can we do? We got to fix this, man,
Speaker 4: we got to fix this.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know, time's going to fix it.
Speaker 2: But I really believe, you know, it's got to Look if.
Speaker 1: We look at just the way the Internet was came
Speaker 1: to be, it was the governments and militaries that had
Speaker 1: it first sure, and then there was consumer adoption and
Speaker 1: retail products were designed. This has come to market in
Speaker 1: the complete opposite way. This blockchain, this Internet of value,
Speaker 1: has been coming to market by way of retail adoption,
Speaker 1: a libertarian movement, you know, to adopt by bitcoe and this, that,
Speaker 1: and the other, and then you start finding all these
Speaker 1: other things like RIPLEXRP, these utility purpose kind of tokens
Speaker 1: to work behind the financial system to complement it, and
Speaker 1: to complement our FX markets and those types of things.
Speaker 1: So for me, paul I, when I look at all
Speaker 1: of this, I feel like it's got to happen back
Speaker 1: in first because you're not going to get the retail framework.
Speaker 3: Yes, in the brain what happened with the Internet exactly.
Speaker 3: You know, the builders had to build the early stage
Speaker 3: companies unfortunately. You know, it's the old adage the first
Speaker 3: through the wall gets the bloodiest.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and that's happened.
Speaker 3: I think to a certain extent, you could always you know,
Speaker 3: you could throw FTX in there and Voyager and every
Speaker 3: other bad actor that's been out there.
Speaker 4: But I think think we're past.
Speaker 3: That phase now and now it's a very uh, this
Speaker 3: feels very liberating. But at the same time, Brad, I'm
Speaker 3: a little concerned about too much centralization because I'm still
Speaker 3: I'm still very very anti establishment.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying on anti government. I'm just saying we
Speaker 4: need less government. Let people do the work.
Speaker 3: You know, we don't need a lot of help, you know,
Speaker 3: let the winners win, Let the losers get better, you know.
Speaker 3: And and I think, listen, that's how I grew up.
Speaker 3: If you were a loser, you got better.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, you play harder, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you surround yourself. Look, it's one of the greatest things
Speaker 1: could ever happen to you, is when you walk into
Speaker 1: a room and figure out you're the weakest one in
Speaker 1: the room.
Speaker 2: I love that because that's an opportunity to rise up.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm like, that's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, that's the greatest room to be in, right,
Speaker 1: because you always know you've got an opportunity to level up.
Speaker 2: So it's one hundred percent. Yeah. So look when I.
Speaker 1: Look at this, I feel like the great unlock it's
Speaker 1: still Look, I mean, XARP has complete clarity, there's no
Speaker 1: question about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right sixteen assets including XARP, have been given a Digital
Speaker 1: Asset Commodity designation. That's not it is clear there's a
Speaker 1: MAG sixteen out here.
Speaker 2: It is clear that the infrastructure for.
Speaker 1: Almost fifteen years has been built and put in place
Speaker 1: on the back end for traditional finance to use. So
Speaker 1: it isn't the assets that need clarity today. It is
Speaker 1: the banks that need clarity. It is the financial institutions
Speaker 1: that need to clarity so they can begin to use
Speaker 1: these things. And when they do, we're going to see
Speaker 1: that change, that step change, because again, you know the
Speaker 1: Internet when it came on, Look, DARPA, the government, militaries,
Speaker 1: We're using the Internet for decades before retail products and
Speaker 1: PCs came about. And now we've gone the opposite way,
Speaker 1: where we have all these cool little things we can
Speaker 1: do and anybody in the crypto world kind of knows
Speaker 1: about them, but nobody else does. But when we see
Speaker 1: banks being able to offer the crypto for you rate
Speaker 1: at your bank, when we see the back end payments
Speaker 1: being used for blockchain because they're on chain, the NYSC,
Speaker 1: the NASDAC, and all the bonds for the US treasuries
Speaker 1: are being settled at the DTCC, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: all of that's getting tokenized in less than fifty days
Speaker 1: from now on the DTC's platform. One hundred and fourteen
Speaker 1: trillion in assets tokenized in less than fifty days from now.
Speaker 2: So when I think of that notion, that to me
Speaker 2: is like.
Speaker 1: Watching the DARPA, the militaries, like in an instant they're
Speaker 1: going to be unlocked and they're going to be right
Speaker 1: here to use these assets and they will become, I believe,
Speaker 1: the price driver of this market because we don't have
Speaker 1: a utility driven market, but we will once they get
Speaker 1: into the game.
Speaker 3: Well and just understand, guys, that they're the timing for
Speaker 3: this to me almost looks orchestrated.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, and let me explain this. You look at GDP,
Speaker 4: this is a.
Speaker 3: Number that just came out. Nobody was expecting this. When
Speaker 3: we start to see GDP slowing with what's happening, you
Speaker 3: know from an inflation side and also what's happening from
Speaker 3: a debt printing side, hitting forty trillion. So think about
Speaker 3: the metric drivers of this and also the economic signal
Speaker 3: that it would have if the FED comes in with
Speaker 3: if the FED rate expectations right now are higher probability
Speaker 3: of rate cut, you're going to see an increase in
Speaker 3: market liquidity. Like you know, we haven't had a rate
Speaker 3: cut in a while, so you're going to see some
Speaker 3: rush in the short term. Sentiment is a little bit
Speaker 3: of a concern for me because some of this GDP
Speaker 3: slow down starts to hit weak growth and corporate earnings
Speaker 3: and that's what I just mentioned to go S and P.
Speaker 3: You'll have arish volatility and some risk off or some
Speaker 3: D risking. Tom Ley's talking about de risking now in
Speaker 3: September he thinks.
Speaker 4: Is he right?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but maybe timing is right. If we
Speaker 3: have a slow down, a d risk and then a pullback,
Speaker 3: which would be an inverse if the US dollar, the
Speaker 3: Dixie weakens on what we might see a dubbish policy shift,
Speaker 3: then you'd have an inverse correlation or a tailwind here.
Speaker 4: So and you have this in September.
Speaker 3: Or October, right before midterm, right after some sort of
Speaker 3: signal on clarity one where you couldn't create a story
Speaker 3: better than that.
Speaker 2: It's so spot on.
Speaker 1: And look, and I just want to say, for like
Speaker 1: the viewers here, when it comes to whether it's bitcoin, XRP.
Speaker 2: Or some other asset, you know, we still have.
Speaker 1: The strategic reserves in play, We still have the digital
Speaker 1: assets stockpiles in play, right because I believe those are
Speaker 1: going to be very key signifiers as well to the
Speaker 1: assets that will be deemed important by the US government.
Speaker 1: And I think it's quite likely that bitcoin and could
Speaker 1: make a strategic reserve because there's only.
Speaker 2: Twenty one million, and it helps me gather the assets.
Speaker 1: Especially if they do a digital asset bond issuance for
Speaker 1: all of these assets, because I believe they should, then
Speaker 1: they can gather the asset without costing the taxpayer one penny,
Speaker 1: and in fact, they can revenue share with the taxpayer.
Speaker 2: But I want to remind.
Speaker 1: People that whether it's Bitcoin or whether it's XRP, these assets,
Speaker 1: all of this entire crypto digital asset class was birth
Speaker 1: for one reason, yep.
Speaker 2: And this is it right here, buddy. It's the US
Speaker 2: dollar right because it's under stress.
Speaker 1: It's under real stress, as you just pointed out with
Speaker 1: the forty trillion in debt, with the overprinting and the
Speaker 1: rest of it.
Speaker 2: And I remind people that it already is digital. See
Speaker 2: that serial number rate there.
Speaker 1: We're only talking about taking that serial number and putting
Speaker 1: it on your phone and getting rid of the paper.
Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about and what we're really talking
Speaker 1: about when it comes to digital asset utility treasuries and
Speaker 1: utility assets like XRP. Eventually, at some point in the future,
Speaker 1: that asset gets enough utility and liquidity on chain and
Speaker 1: it can underpin this very dollar that we are looking
Speaker 1: to preserve a dominance in the new digital world.
Speaker 3: Well, that'll that'll be when the petro dollar finally starts
Speaker 3: to dissolve and we do see a true you know,
Speaker 3: tier one asset start to move.
Speaker 4: Its way into securities.
Speaker 3: How long before you think we see an XRP five
Speaker 3: type product. Meaning, and I want to explain this because
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys have been following ether Pi.
Speaker 4: These guys have made a major shift to a neo bank.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Why would we not see something like that
Speaker 3: on the XRP ledger where you would have basically a
Speaker 3: finance architecture built around it, almost as a bank, to
Speaker 3: where literally could hold you know, token is stocks, token
Speaker 3: I securities. Obviously, it could hold any asset out there,
Speaker 3: including gold XRP and then put it all to work
Speaker 3: creating loans all that.
Speaker 4: Why have we not seen a product like that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, look, I think ever North is a very close
Speaker 1: product like that. Now, it's not exactly to the breadth
Speaker 1: of what you're discussing here, but ever North is absolutely
Speaker 1: to give institutions exposure to the asset, and it will
Speaker 1: be through lending and generating you know, I mean profits
Speaker 1: and those types of things off of those kinds of products.
Speaker 1: So I do think you're seeing that, and not in
Speaker 1: that exact DeFi kind of way obviously, right, but you know,
Speaker 1: I do think you're going to see more and more.
Speaker 2: Of those things, Paul.
Speaker 1: Look, I think one of the things to keep in
Speaker 1: mind for the viewers in the audience that aren't sure
Speaker 1: about like why is XRP late to do a stable point?
Speaker 1: Why is XRP not doing smart contracts? And all these
Speaker 1: questions and things like this. You know, My thing is,
Speaker 1: it's like, because we were the one that got sued
Speaker 1: for four and a half years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of got derailed for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like my take on all these other use
Speaker 2: cases that the SEC could have fault to.
Speaker 1: Argue those points thereof they did smart contracts, well we'll
Speaker 1: argue this legally. If they did stable points, we'll argue that.
Speaker 1: That's why I think these things came late. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: let's just get judged on XRP not being a security,
Speaker 1: which it is not, and we won that. Now you
Speaker 1: can start to open up and go to these other
Speaker 1: use cases as you see them do with you know,
Speaker 1: stable coins, DeFi products exposure through ever North and things
Speaker 1: of that nature, and I think you'll see those things
Speaker 1: continue to grow.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 3: So you had the SEC cancel their meeting today and
Speaker 3: it was cited as unforeseen scheduling issues, I think is
Speaker 3: what their statement was. If you look at maybe the
Speaker 3: executive realignment that's happening and also a White House engagement,
Speaker 3: you'd have to consider all of this. So I think simultaneously,
Speaker 3: you've got the White House saying all right, we're going
Speaker 3: to do some meetings here with a lot of you.
Speaker 4: Know, industry leadership.
Speaker 3: And this is happening during a Senate recess, by the way,
Speaker 3: So you've got maybe a policy alignment that's coming together
Speaker 3: between the White House and the SEC.
Speaker 4: That could be two ways.
Speaker 3: It could be the issue of we don't think the
Speaker 3: Dems are going to let this through and we need
Speaker 3: a coordinated, a coordinated you know, strategy.
Speaker 4: If that does.
Speaker 3: If that happens, so you have a White House and
Speaker 3: maybe the crypto people saying okay, well we're gonna coordinate
Speaker 3: through the SEC. The SEC and the White House are
Speaker 3: working hand in hand. You got Paul Atkinson, the Trump administration,
Speaker 3: or they see all right, this is the last little
Speaker 3: thing we need across the line, and we need a
Speaker 3: little pressure from the SEC.
Speaker 4: And we have.
Speaker 3: Some Senators probably getting a little uneasy in the fact
Speaker 3: that the SEC was getting ready to pull the.
Speaker 4: Trigger here, which which route do you think is happening?
Speaker 2: All great choices.
Speaker 1: By the way, look, I tend to think because I'm
Speaker 1: glass half full, right, even in this down market and
Speaker 1: down temperament when it comes to the legislation and how
Speaker 1: many people still aren't on board for me, it's all
Speaker 1: political grand standing.
Speaker 2: So you know, they keep moving the gold posts.
Speaker 1: It's like they the President has agreed to the ethics rules,
Speaker 1: and they still say that there's a problem. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, because they don't like them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like they realize that they lost
Speaker 1: a presidential election behind their hatred for Trump and then
Speaker 1: Crypto as well.
Speaker 2: Right, So the truth is.
Speaker 1: Is that they understand this so they can posture all
Speaker 1: they want. I happen to believe that at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, the SEC setting that meeting was to
Speaker 1: put pressure on the Senate to say, well, we're coming
Speaker 1: through and getting ready to open the door on everything,
Speaker 1: so you take your time and don't pass anything, and
Speaker 1: we'll go the next two years and we'll put the
Speaker 1: rules out as if the Clarity Act does exist.
Speaker 2: Now, let's see what you do in two years. That
Speaker 2: was the pressure I saw.
Speaker 4: Out of that.
Speaker 1: Now I may be wrong, I'm speculating, but to everything
Speaker 1: that you had just laid out, I have to say,
Speaker 1: you know, the meeting gets canceled and rescheduled, and that
Speaker 1: reasoning sounded so flimsy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was clearly Uh.
Speaker 1: And then we find out within the same hour that,
Speaker 1: by the way, the White House is going to be
Speaker 1: meeting with the crypto industry early next week too, and
Speaker 1: then the CFTC is coming out on the twentieth, right
Speaker 1: right after that. So I really feel Paul, that that
Speaker 1: pressure got the Senate to talk back to move in
Speaker 1: White House and got them moving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's the point.
Speaker 3: Maybe that And even though they got to move them
Speaker 3: while they were you know, out running around trying to
Speaker 3: campaign for their new you know position next you know
Speaker 3: here in November.
Speaker 2: So and if they don't, they're going to lose those seats.
Speaker 3: Well there's a lot I mean, you look at the
Speaker 3: poly market on this right now. The Senate's got three
Speaker 3: seats away from losing the Senate for the Republicans. Democrats
Speaker 3: could easily pull this off. The House is pretty much
Speaker 3: Demo or excuse me, yeah, Democrat. I think it's the
Speaker 3: eighty seven eighty eight percent right now probability, So it's
Speaker 3: going to be a split at the best, and at
Speaker 3: worst it could be a complete Democrat held House and Senate,
Speaker 3: which would be interesting, might be good for crypto in
Speaker 3: a way.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm still on the fence on that.
Speaker 2: I can't see how that would be good. Paul Washington
Speaker 2: for four years try to.
Speaker 4: Kill the attire industry.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the concern would be initially is that
Speaker 3: that They're going to trot out every one of Trump's
Speaker 3: crypto projects onto hearings, you know, And this would be
Speaker 3: of course, all leading up to you know, some sort
Speaker 3: of you know floor vote. Yeah, yeah, just in general,
Speaker 3: I think, you know, just it's the embarrassment you know,
Speaker 3: that they're trying to bring in, and then of course
Speaker 3: the impeachment cycles will begin, you know, all this, which
Speaker 3: could take a lot of wind out of the market
Speaker 3: in general.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it would give us a lame dub president
Speaker 1: right for the last two years, right, which would be
Speaker 1: highly ineffective. So I think they understand what's on the
Speaker 1: line if they want to be effective and finish this
Speaker 1: gener you know, I come back to the whole. You know,
Speaker 1: it comes back to the dollar, right, And these Democrats
Speaker 1: can they can hate Trump all they want with their TDS.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: But if you like dollars and you like buying things
Speaker 1: for your kids, even as a senator, whether you're a
Speaker 1: Democrat or Republican, I'm pretty sure you're using dollars to
Speaker 1: buy them video games and shoes, right.
Speaker 2: And all of this is about the US dollar. It
Speaker 2: is not about crypto.
Speaker 1: Crypto is about saving the US dollar dominance.
Speaker 2: In the new digital world, we're moving.
Speaker 4: To a hundred percent and it is about this.
Speaker 2: World moving to a high tech barter society.
Speaker 1: And we don't need the petro dollar agreement anymore because
Speaker 1: we're going to capture the lion's share of all transactions
Speaker 1: in the new digital world.
Speaker 2: We're moving to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen, I am seeing more products and projects
Speaker 3: launching now that are clearly superior to the traditional banking system,
Speaker 3: the traditional finance system, And it is just a matter
Speaker 3: of time, I think, before this era completely remaps how
Speaker 3: we think we're even going to do. And I'm talking
Speaker 3: not just for personal but for businesses, et cetera. The
Speaker 3: opportunity is going to be huge. And just the fact
Speaker 3: that you'd be able to spread you know, stable coins
Speaker 3: around the world against the US Treasury is pretty significant.
Speaker 3: What did you think about Tether's audit. Do you think
Speaker 3: it's a little fluffy or do you feel like, hey, no,
Speaker 3: they finally did something here.
Speaker 1: I think twofold one they finally did something, and then
Speaker 1: they finally did something for well, just audit twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Five, right, yeah, just a little fluffy.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four, twenty eighteen, let's go back, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: just to twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think you figured out why they're buying so
Speaker 1: much gold, right, you know, because I mean, obviously it's
Speaker 1: screaming to me. Look, I mean shout out to everybody
Speaker 1: at Tether, but it's screaming to me just how out
Speaker 1: of bounds they've been running for so long that you know,
Speaker 1: there's all this gathering of gold and then finally doing
Speaker 1: an audit and it only being for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about you.
Speaker 3: They had to clean the books and you know, get
Speaker 3: them in position to where they can you know, actually
Speaker 3: operate under the Genius Act, you know, essentially.
Speaker 1: Rachel, see those books weren't right, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I tell you that right now.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, it's well, well, at least you know Inron
Speaker 4: never did that.
Speaker 2: So during the same sentence as Enron, I haven't been
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 4: That's not Yeah, that's not a good that's not a
Speaker 4: good look. I agree with you. It's funny.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, we're gonna We're gonna cover more like this.
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Speaker 4: What am I talking about?
Speaker 3: Just just you know where to get and follow Brad. Oh,
Speaker 3: tell me, do you want to talk anything about the
Speaker 3: event next year?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 4: Can you talk about anything yet?
Speaker 1: I can't talk about it yet, Okay, we should wait
Speaker 1: and to see if the Clarity Act passes.
Speaker 4: It fat me how things go.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll come back and plug.
Speaker 4: I like it. I like it. All right, you guys
Speaker 4: know what to do.
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