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<v Speaker 1>I think we could see this break back down and

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<v Speaker 1>retest just below a dollar. People in the retail are

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<v Speaker 1>running for the exits because the prices are bottoming out

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a dollar crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be a step change and inflection point.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that takes place. Paul one hundred and fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>trillion in assets tokenized in less than fifty days.

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<v Speaker 3>For now, the timing for this to me almost looks orchestrated.

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<v Speaker 3>You've probably heard me mention Uphold before, and there's a

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<v Speaker 3>reason I keep talking about them. Uphold makes it incredibly

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<v Speaker 3>easy to bridge a gap between your portfolio and the

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<v Speaker 3>real world. This has not been done before. Their Uphold

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<v Speaker 3>debit card is the best example of that. It lets

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<v Speaker 3>you spend your crypto or your cash anywhere visa is accepted,

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<v Speaker 3>all while earning four percent back in XRP on every purchase.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the easiest way to stack rewards on your daily spending.

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<v Speaker 3>Download the Uphold app for more and get started. Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>back into another XRP pod. Today is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>fun because I've gotten none of the mister brad Kimes

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<v Speaker 3>that will be joining me here momentarily and it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a good one because we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the news on what is driving the current market,

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<v Speaker 3>and that includes a one dollar XRP. We have said it,

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<v Speaker 3>and we've talked about it before of hitting one dollar,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's going to be a good discussion, some good

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<v Speaker 3>things and some not so good things, I think for crypto.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll also touch on what's happening in DC. I won't

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<v Speaker 3>bore you with clarity, but there are some things strategically

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<v Speaker 3>that could affect clarity.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll kind of reference that, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get into some of the security risks that are

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<v Speaker 3>out there across the market, including the bridge hack that

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<v Speaker 3>we saw, and of course the good news that stands

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<v Speaker 3>behind that.

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<v Speaker 4>So stay tuned for all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>mister Brad Kimes, how are you, Brad?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, Paul, how are you going?

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<v Speaker 4>Nice to see you. Thank you for having You've got

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<v Speaker 4>a new backdrop back there.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like an old time bar. Yes, I wish

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<v Speaker 3>I had one of those in my in my house.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have one of those, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>In Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>We everything's white.

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<v Speaker 1>And with a great record player and great speakers and

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<v Speaker 1>some wonderful albums to listen.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, which albums do we have there? In

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<v Speaker 4>that find?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we could have everything anything you want. Anything you

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<v Speaker 1>want from jazz to I.

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<v Speaker 3>Want a nineteen sixty three stratocaster.

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<v Speaker 2>You shall have.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody out there want to surprise me with a nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>sixty three strat I will be happy to accept that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look at that price tag right quick before

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking on one in eBay the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about twelve thousand, right, that sounds about right. I

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<v Speaker 3>collect guitars.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a few of those hanging around.

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<v Speaker 3>My favorites are, of course the stratocasters. But listen, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a there's a handful hanging right over there. But one

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<v Speaker 3>day I need to do a tour of my collectibles.

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<v Speaker 2>You should do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I collect drum sets. But my wife gets so upset.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, you can only play one set at a time.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's how many guitars do you hang on the wall?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we don't have any more walls. You're running

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<v Speaker 3>out of walls. That's okay, Well, those are some of

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<v Speaker 3>the collectibles that I do. You know, We've got a

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<v Speaker 3>show that where we just launched. It's called Velocity Assets.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys can search it out on YouTube. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a show where I actually start to reveal one of

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<v Speaker 3>my other passions, which is cars. And businesses. So we're

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<v Speaker 3>investing in businesses, and we also I invest in cars,

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<v Speaker 3>which are modern classics. You guys can learn a little

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<v Speaker 3>love cars, just jump over to Velocity Assets. You'll see

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<v Speaker 3>it over there.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Brad, we got to talk about a few.

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<v Speaker 3>Things, and one of the big things I want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about is what's going on right now with your.

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<v Speaker 4>Tweet right here.

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<v Speaker 3>You had a tweet out there that said four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>trillion upside. That's a lot of upside for protocols like XRP,

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<v Speaker 3>and you were talking about tokenization on chain and where

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<v Speaker 3>the growth is heading for XRP in general, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think the Ledger. When you think about RWA's right now

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<v Speaker 3>and the real possibility of growth and scale, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to remember that Ripple is still one of the smaller

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<v Speaker 3>holders in terms of the number of actual participants in

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<v Speaker 3>Ripple or I should say, XRP, Ledger, RBA. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>think what do you think it's going to take to

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's such a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's going to take passing the Clarity Act.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I think it's going to take that. Look.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, the Clarity Act is the catalyst for this market.

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<v Speaker 1>We already have the Genius Act for stable coins, and

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<v Speaker 1>as Representative French Hill has said, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>so spot on, having the Genius Act and not having

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<v Speaker 1>the Clarity Act is like having cell phones but then

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<v Speaker 1>not having legislation for the cell phone towers. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's literally, I believe, the perfect analogy for.

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<v Speaker 2>Where we are here. We need that.

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<v Speaker 1>Market infrastructure, build a Clarity Act pass so then we

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<v Speaker 1>can see the traditional financial companies and entities that are

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the point behind RWA is when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at real world app I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see a lot more products and projects accelerating. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think the bridge for you know, XRPL to truly get

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<v Speaker 3>to an RWA threshold that is going to be nirvana.

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<v Speaker 3>It's somehow cracking that code on retail because at some

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<v Speaker 3>point we will see retail involved in this area. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just a matter of time. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>just look at what Flair is doing. You know, when

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<v Speaker 3>you look at flaira ihead you go on last week,

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<v Speaker 3>this is pretty big deal because now if you're a

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<v Speaker 3>token holder, you can put all of your XRP to

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<v Speaker 3>work in DEFT.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you like the idea of using your XRP and

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<v Speaker 3>creating a f XRP token and using this in DeFi?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you do this as a as an OG and

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<v Speaker 3>with XRP.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, I'm very excited about all possibilities

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<v Speaker 1>to put my assets to work. Okay, So, whether we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a FLAIR situation or a different DeFi situation

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe Lantern right or somebody like that, being able

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<v Speaker 1>to take my assets and put them to work are

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely mission critical for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually, to go a step further, it is like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Final one of the final steps of being in this

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<v Speaker 1>digital asset space. Look, I'm here to create generational wealth, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just I don't want to just get wealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to create generational wealth and actually doing that

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<v Speaker 1>means putting your assets to work for you and being

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<v Speaker 1>able to turn around and chase other things that have

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<v Speaker 1>an ROI as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And whether it look whether it's Flair, whether it's Lantern.

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<v Speaker 1>I think these options that are coming to market are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the way that you really unlock retail,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, but look, I'll go a step further here.

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<v Speaker 1>Flair actually is set up also to serve the institutional side,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would remind people as well with XRP. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at Ripple Prime. Look at the last couple acquisitions that

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<v Speaker 1>were made by Ripple g Treasury and Hidden Road now

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<v Speaker 1>rebranded to Ripple Treasury and Ripple Prime. That is sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars in actual volume done every year that is

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<v Speaker 1>now under Ripple's umbrella. Now, I know that they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>used digital assets up until now, but that sixteen trillion

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<v Speaker 1>now lives under Ripples umbrella. So it's really again comes

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<v Speaker 1>back to this catalyst being able to use these assets

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<v Speaker 1>and then you start to see them going to work,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what unlocks the entire well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just a matter of time because we're seeing

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<v Speaker 3>I was just on a conference yesterday with some partners

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<v Speaker 3>that we work with, and the amount of innovation that

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<v Speaker 3>is coming to us. It boggles the mind of where

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to see new products, new services and It's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be long before we are completely pulled

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<v Speaker 3>away from the traditional finance system. That's why I think

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<v Speaker 3>this fight has been so bloody in DC is that

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<v Speaker 3>I think they know it's coming and it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of time. And now you've got we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the SEC canceling their meeting of why with all that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it's just a matter of time to

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<v Speaker 3>your point be where we see this unlock start to move.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of that, you've got an unlock happening right now.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got whales.

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<v Speaker 3>Accumulating seventy two million tokens in twenty four hours. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a very interesting point because we had XRP hit

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<v Speaker 3>its weakest since November. The sentiment is way down on

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<v Speaker 3>XRP right now. And then I had Gareth Soloway on

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<v Speaker 3>our show, the main Show this week, and he gave

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<v Speaker 3>SRP a bullish rating because he liked the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>he thought this was the point where XRP would start

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<v Speaker 3>its rise again. And that is holding around this one

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<v Speaker 3>dollar market did dip below the other day slightly, But

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think defense at one dollar or do

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<v Speaker 3>we see this break.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think we could see this break back

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<v Speaker 1>down and retest just below a dollar.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you know, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>A technical charts guy. I do cover it on my

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<v Speaker 1>channel and those types of things. But just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>to that baseline, and it is so very close to

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<v Speaker 1>doing so again where we sit right now, and if

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<v Speaker 1>So do you have this downward pressure just in the

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you got a hedge too, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're anticipating clarity and going through what a great

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<v Speaker 4>One of those could be this right here.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Canada, of course one of their big banks now

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be very long. And we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>the Japan news, I think enough. But what's happening in Japan,

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening in other countries. I think South America has

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<v Speaker 3>much about that, but there are some very interesting moves

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<v Speaker 4>I think that will be related to XRP. So what

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think this is just we win regardless clarity,

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<v Speaker 3>no clarity, there's just too much adoption happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a great question. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I think where we're at here is we can't

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<v Speaker 1>lose sight of the fact. Look to your point about

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<v Speaker 1>the news here from the Bank of Montreal.

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<v Speaker 1>ago we're talking about these relationships. So Ripple has been

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<v Speaker 1>working to build this infrastructure for almost fifteen years now,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have deep relationships, whether it's the Bank of Montreal,

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<v Speaker 1>the Royal Bank of Canada, or many other banks, including

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve and the Faster Payments Task Force right

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<v Speaker 1>here at home in the US. What I would really

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<v Speaker 1>point to Paul for people to not get lost on

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<v Speaker 1>is the idea in understanding that the DTCC has Ripple

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<v Speaker 1>Prime smack dab in the middle of that tokenization live

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<v Speaker 1>experiment and approach that's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even experiment, it's just live production.

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<v Speaker 1>And we need to remember that the DTCC has been

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<v Speaker 1>issued a three year no action letter from the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>So this great here that tells that's catalysts right there

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And all we.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to see is the approval of Pointing to the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC meeting that's been rescheduled. Here, it was rumored that

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to come out and suggest that or

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<v Speaker 1>open the door for everyone to tokenize on chains like Stellar, Solana,

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<v Speaker 1>XRP Ledger and entities like that, and start using tokenized

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<v Speaker 1>stocks and bonds on chain. Now that meet has been rescheduled,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't know if that was actually going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the meet of the meeting, but you start thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, if it was right. That looks to me

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<v Speaker 1>like putting an immense amount of pressure on the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>to pass.

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<v Speaker 2>The Clarity Act.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also looks to be setting the stage for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the SEC has already given a no

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<v Speaker 1>action letter to the largest clearing and settlement platform in

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<v Speaker 1>the world of token stocks and bonds. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>we're sitting here plugged in and people in the retail

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<v Speaker 1>out all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>But the truth is it's like we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing more adoption we set up and put in the

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very good point because this is what we

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<v Speaker 3>have seen over multiple cycles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, these last few months.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a bear market typically are unfortunately the most damaging

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<v Speaker 3>to retail because in most cases retail just don't have

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have the wherewithal to really weather these kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of markets. And hey, listen, this happens in regular stock

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<v Speaker 3>markets too. Don't get me wrong. This is not a

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<v Speaker 3>just scrypto thing. It happens in gold. If you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the gold chart, I'll bring it up in a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. All of these get a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>I think correction, and we may still see another correction here.

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<v Speaker 3>So don't don't think you're out of the blue completely.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just look at all of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>are happening back to your point fundamentals, the amount of

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<v Speaker 3>runway that's being created. This was a piece I just

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<v Speaker 3>put out yesterday or now. Actually I just dropped this

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<v Speaker 3>this morning. And Rakkoton, which is a company I've worked

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<v Speaker 3>with in other industries, because they're very tied into retail.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys are like the Amazon of Japan. They now

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<v Speaker 3>are connected directly and this is a widespread consumer payment

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<v Speaker 3>platform called raccoton Pay, which is huge, it's like forty

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<v Speaker 3>four million. But again this is because they are so

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<v Speaker 3>tied into what's happening in Japan, and Japan of course

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<v Speaker 3>is don't get me going on Japan, where there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more happening over there. But this just goes to

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<v Speaker 3>your point. It's just a matter of time before this

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<v Speaker 3>all starts tumbling in on the market and everybody you know,

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<v Speaker 3>won't It won't matter where the price is, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think the market is going to correct accordingly, you know, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Speak further to your point here, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know two of the biggest key factors

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<v Speaker 1>for XRP price to go up, specifically because this is

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<v Speaker 1>a utility asset, a bridge asset, a payment asset, however.

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<v Speaker 2>You like to refer to it. You know, a utility token.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you think about something that has actual

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<v Speaker 1>use case utility. I got to be honest, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I start looking at the real total addressable market,

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<v Speaker 1>what's really sitting in front of us, it's quite massive.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I mean, just to the point when you opened up.

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<v Speaker 1>The show you talked about securitize this tweet, when they

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<v Speaker 1>talked about four hundred trillion dollar opportunity for real world

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<v Speaker 1>asset tokenization. The market that sits in front of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will be a multi chain world.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely sure, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But this opportunity that sits specifically in front of assets

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<v Speaker 1>with utility like XRP is just absolutely massive.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty insane. Kudos to ever North. They of course

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<v Speaker 3>went in and repriced obviously for current pricing regions because

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<v Speaker 3>or reasons, because they originally had their deals stuck in

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<v Speaker 3>at around two thirty. Now token trading at a buck.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think this just shows you the consistency of

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<v Speaker 3>whatever North was trying to do. Good Actors like this

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<v Speaker 3>I think are out there going, hey, no problem, we'll understand,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll ebb and flow with the market here. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of time before we see this start to

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<v Speaker 3>really change up.

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<v Speaker 4>So get ready.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that kind of faith just to me, that

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<v Speaker 3>shows even more faith.

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<v Speaker 4>In the projects that we're seeing right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see more whales buying in right now or

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<v Speaker 3>do you think people are still on the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I see more whales buying right now. I just covered

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<v Speaker 1>in an article where we saw more buying over the

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<v Speaker 1>last few weeks from whale accounts and those size of wallets. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the number is seventy four percent plus of all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's out of the one million wallet holders

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<v Speaker 1>of XRP, seventy four point one percent of the total

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<v Speaker 1>circulating supply is locked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's happening during a down market, right And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to speak to the point that you've made about ever

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<v Speaker 1>North very quickly, because what a great company I think

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<v Speaker 1>is lying in the weight there now. Going back to

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty five is all time highs. We saw the

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<v Speaker 1>market crash and we saw a lot of digital asset

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<v Speaker 1>treasuries go bust, and I believe the reason for that

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<v Speaker 1>is is because those digital asset treasuries, majority of them

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<v Speaker 1>have bitcoin in them. Now I hold bitcoin in an IRA,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't send me to hate mail.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these digital asset treasury didn't hold utility style assets,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I call them dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want a digital asset treasury to live, you

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<v Speaker 1>need a DAUT which is a digital asset utility treasury.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I believe ever North is going to live.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they made the change they did to back

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<v Speaker 1>a share price and I believe that that over time

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<v Speaker 1>really speaks, like you said, in good faith of standing

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<v Speaker 1>behind the asset and the products you're offering. It lets

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<v Speaker 1>everybody know that going forward, this asset has utility and

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<v Speaker 1>it will it will survive because it has the value

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<v Speaker 1>within its utility. That is what was missing from the

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<v Speaker 1>first round of digital asset treasure.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, to your point is the utility component I think

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<v Speaker 3>is going to start to become a major recognizing point

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<v Speaker 3>and probably one of the tier one decision tree asset

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<v Speaker 3>considerations that all of the major investors are going to

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<v Speaker 3>look at you know, how you know, how's it, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the utility use case? What is there a potential opportunity here,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think eventually we're going to see some staking activity,

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<v Speaker 3>just like what we see on eth around some of these.

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<v Speaker 4>Dots, and that will change the game as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason, the reason all of this is important

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<v Speaker 3>is very simple, guys, when you look at the value

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<v Speaker 3>of the dollar, and I don't know if you saw

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<v Speaker 3>Bielo's tweet, but this guy kind of hit it on

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<v Speaker 3>the head in the sense of where this is all heading,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is only one place, and that is get

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<v Speaker 3>away from the dollar as fast as you can. And

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<v Speaker 3>what we're talking about of five hundred and fifty billions

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<v Speaker 3>since July is what the national debt has increased. That's

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<v Speaker 3>July first, that's last month. Okay, guys, last month, July one,

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<v Speaker 3>we are edging in on forty trillion in debt. So listen,

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<v Speaker 3>printers are going to continue here.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to speak into this because you're making such

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<v Speaker 1>a great point. Look, you know, whether we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>digital asset treasuries, digital asset utility treasuries.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know, with adults, you know, coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>To what's the problem. Well, the problem is we got

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<v Speaker 1>we got a debt problem. We got a dollar crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like it was in eighth nine that was

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<v Speaker 1>a real estate default swap crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem now is at central bank doorstep.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the problem of the dollar, right, It is

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<v Speaker 1>the problem of the debata destination, is the problem of

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<v Speaker 1>the overprinting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all come home to roost. And there is.

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<v Speaker 1>How you get a new asset class born known as

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<v Speaker 1>digital assets. There is how you get digital dollars. There

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<v Speaker 1>is how you get things like a utility bridge asset

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<v Speaker 1>like XRP. And I'll remind people of what I was

430
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<v Speaker 1>going to say earlier. There's two words that really come

431
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<v Speaker 1>to mind here when you're thinking about as you asked

432
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<v Speaker 1>about Flare and the DeFi opportunity there, or the lannerings

433
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<v Speaker 1>of the world, or how about the DTCC that we

434
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<v Speaker 1>talked about and the four plus quadrillion they're clearing and

435
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<v Speaker 1>settling every year, and knowing entities like Ripple Prime or

436
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<v Speaker 1>Connected Rate in the middle of that.

437
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<v Speaker 2>Because they can help with a very very crucial part.

438
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<v Speaker 1>To all of this equation that utility, if it has utility,

439
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<v Speaker 1>then that means it's going to have a great need

440
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<v Speaker 1>for collateral, and that means it could be used as margin.

441
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<v Speaker 2>And now you're talking about the word we all want

442
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<v Speaker 2>to talk about, which is scarcity, because once.

443
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<v Speaker 1>We see the use and adoption of these assets, because

444
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<v Speaker 1>to your point about the dollar and the debt settling

445
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<v Speaker 1>transactions right now, Fiat to fiat on each end is

446
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<v Speaker 1>very costly.

447
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<v Speaker 2>It's expensive. And when you can then do these same

448
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<v Speaker 2>transactions for eight hundred thousands of a penny instead of

449
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<v Speaker 2>the cost of it is of a Fiat transaction payments,

450
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<v Speaker 2>it completely shifts. And when that happens, you see a

451
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<v Speaker 2>landslide and tsunami to gather up this asset because they

452
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<v Speaker 2>can use it for collateral because it's more cost effective

453
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<v Speaker 2>and efficient and time saving. So when you have that happen,

454
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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a step change and inflection. I

455
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<v Speaker 2>believe it takes place, Paul, and then the rest will

456
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<v Speaker 2>take care of itself well.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are some other indicators here. Of course you

458
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<v Speaker 3>guys are seeing on tcreing the debt situation, but you

459
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<v Speaker 3>also have the US retail sales numbers came in, So

460
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<v Speaker 3>this is a sudden shift in negative US retail sales,

461
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<v Speaker 3>and when you have consumer spending right now, which right

462
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<v Speaker 3>now I think it accounts for like seventy percent of

463
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<v Speaker 3>the US GDP.

464
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<v Speaker 4>When this turns negative.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Of course, whether you look at control metrics or not,

466
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<v Speaker 3>it literally shifts the global macroeconomic macro backdrop from what

467
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<v Speaker 3>has been somewhat resilient growth to right now. What we're

468
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<v Speaker 3>talking about is a slowdown, all right, So you've got

469
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<v Speaker 3>a slowdown in the economy coming. You could look at

470
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<v Speaker 3>an increased FED rate cut expectation because of this. That

471
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<v Speaker 3>would be a bullish driver. This is the mechanism. The

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<v Speaker 3>impact on crypto alone for lower interest rates would be

473
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<v Speaker 3>huge because the yield on cash right now, especially for

474
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<v Speaker 3>government bonds and US treasuries, completely shift over to other

475
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<v Speaker 3>crypto assets, which I think XRP is going to be

476
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<v Speaker 3>one of those that wins there. So what do you

477
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<v Speaker 3>think about the dollar continuing to soften globally though?

478
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, you know, I've had a theory for

479
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<v Speaker 1>a long time that the reason President Trump wanted to

480
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<v Speaker 1>push the dollar strength and the market's up so high

481
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<v Speaker 1>is because there would be a devaluing at some point.

482
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<v Speaker 1>So why wouldn't you want to take the market as

483
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<v Speaker 1>strong as it can go to be able to handle

484
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<v Speaker 1>whatever correction it's going to be going under, right, So

485
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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely believe that. And listen, I mean history says

486
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<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen too. We go back to the

487
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<v Speaker 1>Plaza Accords of nineteen eighty five.

488
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<v Speaker 2>They devalued the dollar for.

489
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<v Speaker 1>France, Germany, Japan, right because they were all getting crushed

490
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<v Speaker 1>by the strength of the dollar. And here we are

491
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<v Speaker 1>again finding ourselves in a similar like situation, not exactly,

492
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<v Speaker 1>but in a similar like situation, only even worse this

493
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<v Speaker 1>time because the numbers.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Are much larger.

495
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<v Speaker 1>So I think Kevin Worrish cutting rates would send this market.

496
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it would go, it would go nuts. And you

497
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<v Speaker 3>know they're the point right here that they're making is

498
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<v Speaker 3>the question now is whether the FED reads this as

499
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<v Speaker 3>a cooling that it wanted or is at the start

500
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<v Speaker 3>of something it moved too slowly on to stop. So

501
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<v Speaker 3>if because this is one of those very slippery slopes,

502
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<v Speaker 3>once you start to see a GDP start to slide,

503
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<v Speaker 3>it takes a long time for retail to correct.

504
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if retail continue, remember.

505
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<v Speaker 3>It's a lagging market, and if you haven't responded to

506
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<v Speaker 3>be able to offset this. This immediately hits one of

507
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<v Speaker 3>the biggest things that I've been talking about for a while,

508
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<v Speaker 3>and that is the earnings of these companies. And remember, guys,

509
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<v Speaker 3>we are setting on an S and P five hundred

510
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<v Speaker 3>right now. That's what at seventy nine hundred almost, and

511
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<v Speaker 3>it's all because of earnings, because earnings haven't slowed down.

512
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<v Speaker 3>This right here is the first nail in the coffin

513
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<v Speaker 3>that could be showcasing.

514
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<v Speaker 4>So pay attention, guys if.

515
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<v Speaker 3>You're not, because when you see a liquid rotation out

516
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<v Speaker 3>of the S and P, if we start to see

517
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<v Speaker 3>a pull off, just to pull that chart up to

518
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<v Speaker 3>show you, guys, that's the S and P five hundred

519
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.039
<v Speaker 3>over the last few days. Yeah, gets a little scary

520
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<v Speaker 3>when you have a GDP that's showing its first sign

521
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<v Speaker 3>of weakness.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on top to your point too, you know,

523
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<v Speaker 1>Kevin worsh has said that he's going to be a

524
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<v Speaker 1>hands off as much as possible for sure, guy, So

525
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<v Speaker 1>he really kind of it's you know, he's less the

526
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<v Speaker 1>Canesian method and more the Austrian economic method, which is

527
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<v Speaker 1>less central bank engagement and intervention.

528
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<v Speaker 3>Right, yep, exactly. Well, everybody's been hating on him for that.

529
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<v Speaker 3>He's kind of been in the point of, hey, let's

530
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<v Speaker 3>just let the market do what the market does. Yeah,

531
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<v Speaker 3>you know, show us the direction now. Granted, you need

532
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<v Speaker 3>to be as a fed to be able to anticipate

533
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<v Speaker 3>some of this stuff, which is where Powell was so

534
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 3>bad at it of anticipating where the market was heading.

535
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<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of people will argue that, but

536
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<v Speaker 3>I think the concern we're in right now is a

537
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<v Speaker 3>big one. It's also why you're seeing gold, you know,

538
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.319
<v Speaker 3>spiking right now going into this GDP slowdown. So there's

539
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of factors here that you have to put

540
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<v Speaker 3>into consideration around all of this. Brad when you consider,

541
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<v Speaker 3>you know, not only the current situation right now on

542
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<v Speaker 3>economic growth, because this is going to be positive, I

543
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<v Speaker 3>think for eventually for crypto. How long before And this

544
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>is asked to me a lot. We do these private

545
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<v Speaker 3>seminars here in Florida, and I do it for new

546
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 3>people that they're not in crypto. Okay, they're business owners,

547
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 3>mostly high networth individuals some of them, and they all

548
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 3>asked me kind of the question of how long before

549
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<v Speaker 3>you see mainstream adoption? And I'm like, well, listen, mainstream

550
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 3>adoption can barely happen right now unless you want to

551
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.200
<v Speaker 3>get really sweaty nerd know, because you have to know

552
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Speaker 3>how to go build a trust line. You've got to

553
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 3>be able to understand a DeFi wallet. Hell, even setting

554
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>up an exchange account is a little bit bizarre to

555
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 3>someone who's never done it.

556
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<v Speaker 4>So and much less. Let's don't even talk about self custody, but.

557
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<v Speaker 3>That in itself is like the point I'm getting at

558
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<v Speaker 3>is I think it's just a matter of what we've

559
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<v Speaker 3>got is a ux problem.

560
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's the user interface of crypto right now. It sucks. Yes, yes,

561
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 4>what can we do? We got to fix this, man,

562
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<v Speaker 4>we got to fix this.

563
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you know, time's going to fix it.

564
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<v Speaker 2>But I really believe, you know, it's got to Look if.

565
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<v Speaker 1>We look at just the way the Internet was came

566
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<v Speaker 1>to be, it was the governments and militaries that had

567
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:58.079
<v Speaker 1>it first sure, and then there was consumer adoption and

568
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>retail products were designed. This has come to market in

569
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 1>the complete opposite way. This blockchain, this Internet of value,

570
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 1>has been coming to market by way of retail adoption,

571
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 1>a libertarian movement, you know, to adopt by bitcoe and this, that,

572
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and the other, and then you start finding all these

573
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>other things like RIPLEXRP, these utility purpose kind of tokens

574
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 1>to work behind the financial system to complement it, and

575
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>to complement our FX markets and those types of things.

576
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<v Speaker 1>So for me, paul I, when I look at all

577
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<v Speaker 1>of this, I feel like it's got to happen back

578
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<v Speaker 1>in first because you're not going to get the retail framework.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, in the brain what happened with the Internet exactly.

580
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<v Speaker 3>You know, the builders had to build the early stage

581
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:47.039
<v Speaker 3>companies unfortunately. You know, it's the old adage the first

582
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<v Speaker 3>through the wall gets the bloodiest.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, and that's happened.

584
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<v Speaker 3>I think to a certain extent, you could always you know,

585
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>you could throw FTX in there and Voyager and every

586
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:58.799
<v Speaker 3>other bad actor that's been out there.

587
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 4>But I think think we're past.

588
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<v Speaker 3>That phase now and now it's a very uh, this

589
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 3>feels very liberating. But at the same time, Brad, I'm

590
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<v Speaker 3>a little concerned about too much centralization because I'm still

591
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<v Speaker 3>I'm still very very anti establishment.

592
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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying on anti government. I'm just saying we

593
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<v Speaker 4>need less government. Let people do the work.

594
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<v Speaker 3>You know, we don't need a lot of help, you know,

595
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<v Speaker 3>let the winners win, Let the losers get better, you know.

596
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<v Speaker 3>And and I think, listen, that's how I grew up.

597
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:37.640
<v Speaker 3>If you were a loser, you got better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

599
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Yeah, you play harder, you know what I mean,

600
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<v Speaker 1>you surround yourself. Look, it's one of the greatest things

601
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<v Speaker 1>could ever happen to you, is when you walk into

602
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<v Speaker 1>a room and figure out you're the weakest one in

603
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<v Speaker 1>the room.

604
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<v Speaker 2>I love that because that's an opportunity to rise up.

605
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<v Speaker 4>Right, I'm like, that's great.

606
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to me, that's the greatest room to be in, right,

607
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<v Speaker 1>because you always know you've got an opportunity to level up.

608
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<v Speaker 2>So it's one hundred percent. Yeah. So look when I.

609
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<v Speaker 1>Look at this, I feel like the great unlock it's

610
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.559
<v Speaker 1>still Look, I mean, XARP has complete clarity, there's no

611
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<v Speaker 1>question about it.

612
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right sixteen assets including XARP, have been given a Digital

614
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Asset Commodity designation. That's not it is clear there's a

615
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 1>MAG sixteen out here.

616
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<v Speaker 2>It is clear that the infrastructure for.

617
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<v Speaker 1>Almost fifteen years has been built and put in place

618
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<v Speaker 1>on the back end for traditional finance to use. So

619
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<v Speaker 1>it isn't the assets that need clarity today. It is

620
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 1>the banks that need clarity. It is the financial institutions

621
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.559
<v Speaker 1>that need to clarity so they can begin to use

622
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.519
<v Speaker 1>these things. And when they do, we're going to see

623
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<v Speaker 1>that change, that step change, because again, you know the

624
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Internet when it came on, Look, DARPA, the government, militaries,

625
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>We're using the Internet for decades before retail products and

626
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 1>PCs came about. And now we've gone the opposite way,

627
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:54.559
<v Speaker 1>where we have all these cool little things we can

628
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<v Speaker 1>do and anybody in the crypto world kind of knows

629
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>about them, but nobody else does. But when we see

630
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<v Speaker 1>banks being able to offer the crypto for you rate

631
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>at your bank, when we see the back end payments

632
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>being used for blockchain because they're on chain, the NYSC,

633
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the NASDAC, and all the bonds for the US treasuries

634
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>are being settled at the DTCC, which, by the way,

635
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<v Speaker 1>all of that's getting tokenized in less than fifty days

636
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>from now on the DTC's platform. One hundred and fourteen

637
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 1>trillion in assets tokenized in less than fifty days from now.

638
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<v Speaker 2>So when I think of that notion, that to me

639
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<v Speaker 2>is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching the DARPA, the militaries, like in an instant they're

641
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<v Speaker 1>going to be unlocked and they're going to be right

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00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>here to use these assets and they will become, I believe,

643
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<v Speaker 1>the price driver of this market because we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a utility driven market, but we will once they get

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<v Speaker 1>into the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and just understand, guys, that they're the timing for

647
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<v Speaker 3>this to me almost looks orchestrated.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, and let me explain this. You look at GDP,

649
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<v Speaker 4>this is a.

650
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Number that just came out. Nobody was expecting this. When

651
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<v Speaker 3>we start to see GDP slowing with what's happening, you

652
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.359
<v Speaker 3>know from an inflation side and also what's happening from

653
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 3>a debt printing side, hitting forty trillion. So think about

654
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<v Speaker 3>the metric drivers of this and also the economic signal

655
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<v Speaker 3>that it would have if the FED comes in with

656
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 3>if the FED rate expectations right now are higher probability

657
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 3>of rate cut, you're going to see an increase in

658
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.759
<v Speaker 3>market liquidity. Like you know, we haven't had a rate

659
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 3>cut in a while, so you're going to see some

660
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 3>rush in the short term. Sentiment is a little bit

661
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<v Speaker 3>of a concern for me because some of this GDP

662
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<v Speaker 3>slow down starts to hit weak growth and corporate earnings

663
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<v Speaker 3>and that's what I just mentioned to go S and P.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll have arish volatility and some risk off or some

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<v Speaker 3>D risking. Tom Ley's talking about de risking now in

666
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<v Speaker 3>September he thinks.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he right?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but maybe timing is right. If we

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<v Speaker 3>have a slow down, a d risk and then a pullback,

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<v Speaker 3>which would be an inverse if the US dollar, the

671
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Dixie weakens on what we might see a dubbish policy shift,

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<v Speaker 3>then you'd have an inverse correlation or a tailwind here.

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<v Speaker 4>So and you have this in September.

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00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:25.519
<v Speaker 3>Or October, right before midterm, right after some sort of

675
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 3>signal on clarity one where you couldn't create a story

676
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<v Speaker 3>better than that.

677
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<v Speaker 2>It's so spot on.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, and I just want to say, for like

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<v Speaker 1>the viewers here, when it comes to whether it's bitcoin, XRP.

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<v Speaker 2>Or some other asset, you know, we still have.

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<v Speaker 1>The strategic reserves in play, We still have the digital

682
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>assets stockpiles in play, right because I believe those are

683
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<v Speaker 1>going to be very key signifiers as well to the

684
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>assets that will be deemed important by the US government.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's quite likely that bitcoin and could

686
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<v Speaker 1>make a strategic reserve because there's only.

687
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<v Speaker 2>Twenty one million, and it helps me gather the assets.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially if they do a digital asset bond issuance for

689
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>all of these assets, because I believe they should, then

690
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 1>they can gather the asset without costing the taxpayer one penny,

691
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and in fact, they can revenue share with the taxpayer.

692
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<v Speaker 2>But I want to remind.

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<v Speaker 1>People that whether it's Bitcoin or whether it's XRP, these assets,

694
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<v Speaker 1>all of this entire crypto digital asset class was birth

695
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:27.760
<v Speaker 1>for one reason, yep.

696
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<v Speaker 2>And this is it right here, buddy. It's the US

697
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 2>dollar right because it's under stress.

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<v Speaker 1>It's under real stress, as you just pointed out with

699
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the forty trillion in debt, with the overprinting and the

700
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 1>rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remind people that it already is digital. See

702
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>that serial number rate there.

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00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>We're only talking about taking that serial number and putting

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00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it on your phone and getting rid of the paper.

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00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 1>That's what we're talking about and what we're really talking

706
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 1>about when it comes to digital asset utility treasuries and

707
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>utility assets like XRP. Eventually, at some point in the future,

708
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that asset gets enough utility and liquidity on chain and

709
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it can underpin this very dollar that we are looking

710
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 1>to preserve a dominance in the new digital world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that'll that'll be when the petro dollar finally starts

712
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.400
<v Speaker 3>to dissolve and we do see a true you know,

713
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 3>tier one asset start to move.

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00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 4>Its way into securities.

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00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:26.400
<v Speaker 3>How long before you think we see an XRP five

716
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 3>type product. Meaning, and I want to explain this because

717
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys have been following ether Pi.

718
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 4>These guys have made a major shift to a neo bank.

719
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, Why would we not see something like that

720
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.199
<v Speaker 3>on the XRP ledger where you would have basically a

721
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:46.800
<v Speaker 3>finance architecture built around it, almost as a bank, to

722
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 3>where literally could hold you know, token is stocks, token

723
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I securities. Obviously, it could hold any asset out there,

724
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.000
<v Speaker 3>including gold XRP and then put it all to work

725
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 3>creating loans all that.

726
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.559
<v Speaker 4>Why have we not seen a product like that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I think ever North is a very close

728
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.559
<v Speaker 1>product like that. Now, it's not exactly to the breadth

729
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>of what you're discussing here, but ever North is absolutely

730
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 1>to give institutions exposure to the asset, and it will

731
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 1>be through lending and generating you know, I mean profits

732
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and those types of things off of those kinds of products.

733
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<v Speaker 1>So I do think you're seeing that, and not in

734
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that exact DeFi kind of way obviously, right, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think you're going to see more and more.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those things, Paul.

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00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Look, I think one of the things to keep in

738
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>mind for the viewers in the audience that aren't sure

739
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>about like why is XRP late to do a stable point?

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00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Why is XRP not doing smart contracts? And all these

741
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 1>questions and things like this. You know, My thing is,

742
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like, because we were the one that got sued

743
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>for four and a half years.

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00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you kind of got derailed for a minute.

745
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because like my take on all these other use

746
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 2>cases that the SEC could have fault to.

747
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Argue those points thereof they did smart contracts, well we'll

748
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>argue this legally. If they did stable points, we'll argue that.

749
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>That's why I think these things came late. It's like, well,

750
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 1>let's just get judged on XRP not being a security,

751
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>which it is not, and we won that. Now you

752
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>can start to open up and go to these other

753
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>use cases as you see them do with you know,

754
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>stable coins, DeFi products exposure through ever North and things

755
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:25.519
<v Speaker 1>of that nature, and I think you'll see those things

756
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>continue to grow.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do.

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<v Speaker 3>So you had the SEC cancel their meeting today and

759
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.440
<v Speaker 3>it was cited as unforeseen scheduling issues, I think is

760
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 3>what their statement was. If you look at maybe the

761
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 3>executive realignment that's happening and also a White House engagement,

762
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 3>you'd have to consider all of this. So I think simultaneously,

763
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.800
<v Speaker 3>you've got the White House saying all right, we're going

764
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>to do some meetings here with a lot of you.

765
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 4>Know, industry leadership.

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00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.760
<v Speaker 3>And this is happening during a Senate recess, by the way,

767
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:02.639
<v Speaker 3>So you've got maybe a policy alignment that's coming together

768
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:04.320
<v Speaker 3>between the White House and the SEC.

769
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:06.199
<v Speaker 4>That could be two ways.

770
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 3>It could be the issue of we don't think the

771
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Dems are going to let this through and we need

772
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:18.960
<v Speaker 3>a coordinated, a coordinated you know, strategy.

773
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 4>If that does.

774
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:19.480
<v Speaker 3>If that happens, so you have a White House and

775
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe the crypto people saying okay, well we're gonna coordinate

776
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.360
<v Speaker 3>through the SEC. The SEC and the White House are

777
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 3>working hand in hand. You got Paul Atkinson, the Trump administration,

778
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 3>or they see all right, this is the last little

779
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 3>thing we need across the line, and we need a

780
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:35.000
<v Speaker 3>little pressure from the SEC.

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00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 4>And we have.

782
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Some Senators probably getting a little uneasy in the fact

783
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 3>that the SEC was getting ready to pull the.

784
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 4>Trigger here, which which route do you think is happening?

785
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 2>All great choices.

786
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 1>By the way, look, I tend to think because I'm

787
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>glass half full, right, even in this down market and

788
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>down temperament when it comes to the legislation and how

789
00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>many people still aren't on board for me, it's all

790
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 1>political grand standing.

791
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 2>So you know, they keep moving the gold posts.

792
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like they the President has agreed to the ethics rules,

793
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and they still say that there's a problem. It's like,

794
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, because they don't like them, you know

795
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. It's like they realize that they lost

796
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 1>a presidential election behind their hatred for Trump and then

797
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Crypto as well.

798
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, So the truth is.

799
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Is that they understand this so they can posture all

800
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<v Speaker 1>they want. I happen to believe that at the end

801
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 1>of the day, the SEC setting that meeting was to

802
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.760
<v Speaker 1>put pressure on the Senate to say, well, we're coming

803
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>through and getting ready to open the door on everything,

804
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.840
<v Speaker 1>so you take your time and don't pass anything, and

805
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll go the next two years and we'll put the

806
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 1>rules out as if the Clarity Act does exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's see what you do in two years. That

808
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>was the pressure I saw.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I may be wrong, I'm speculating, but to everything

811
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<v Speaker 1>that you had just laid out, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the meeting gets canceled and rescheduled, and that

813
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<v Speaker 1>reasoning sounded so flimsy.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that was clearly Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we find out within the same hour that,

816
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, the White House is going to be

817
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 1>meeting with the crypto industry early next week too, and

818
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.159
<v Speaker 1>then the CFTC is coming out on the twentieth, right

819
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>right after that. So I really feel Paul, that that

820
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.320
<v Speaker 1>pressure got the Senate to talk back to move in

821
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 1>White House and got them moving.

822
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:18.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well that's the point.

823
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that And even though they got to move them

824
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.800
<v Speaker 3>while they were you know, out running around trying to

825
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 3>campaign for their new you know position next you know

826
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 3>here in November.

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<v Speaker 2>So and if they don't, they're going to lose those seats.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there's a lot I mean, you look at the

829
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 3>poly market on this right now. The Senate's got three

830
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:40.159
<v Speaker 3>seats away from losing the Senate for the Republicans. Democrats

831
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:43.599
<v Speaker 3>could easily pull this off. The House is pretty much

832
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Demo or excuse me, yeah, Democrat. I think it's the

833
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 3>eighty seven eighty eight percent right now probability, So it's

834
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.239
<v Speaker 3>going to be a split at the best, and at

835
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.320
<v Speaker 3>worst it could be a complete Democrat held House and Senate,

836
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 3>which would be interesting, might be good for crypto in

837
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 3>a way.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I'm still on the fence on that.

839
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<v Speaker 2>I can't see how that would be good. Paul Washington

840
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:08.039
<v Speaker 2>for four years try to.

841
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 4>Kill the attire industry.

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00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:13.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the concern would be initially is that

843
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.880
<v Speaker 3>that They're going to trot out every one of Trump's

844
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:21.119
<v Speaker 3>crypto projects onto hearings, you know, And this would be

845
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 3>of course, all leading up to you know, some sort

846
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 3>of you know floor vote. Yeah, yeah, just in general,

847
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, just it's the embarrassment you know,

848
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 3>that they're trying to bring in, and then of course

849
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<v Speaker 3>the impeachment cycles will begin, you know, all this, which

850
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:35.920
<v Speaker 3>could take a lot of wind out of the market

851
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 3>in general.

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00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it would give us a lame dub president

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00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>right for the last two years, right, which would be

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<v Speaker 1>highly ineffective. So I think they understand what's on the

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<v Speaker 1>line if they want to be effective and finish this

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<v Speaker 1>gener you know, I come back to the whole. You know,

857
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<v Speaker 1>it comes back to the dollar, right, And these Democrats

858
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<v Speaker 1>can they can hate Trump all they want with their TDS.

859
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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

860
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<v Speaker 1>But if you like dollars and you like buying things

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<v Speaker 1>for your kids, even as a senator, whether you're a

862
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<v Speaker 1>Democrat or Republican, I'm pretty sure you're using dollars to

863
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 1>buy them video games and shoes, right.

864
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<v Speaker 2>And all of this is about the US dollar. It

865
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<v Speaker 2>is not about crypto.

866
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<v Speaker 1>Crypto is about saving the US dollar dominance.

867
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<v Speaker 2>In the new digital world, we're moving.

868
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<v Speaker 4>To a hundred percent and it is about this.

869
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<v Speaker 2>World moving to a high tech barter society.

870
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<v Speaker 1>And we don't need the petro dollar agreement anymore because

871
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<v Speaker 1>we're going to capture the lion's share of all transactions

872
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<v Speaker 1>in the new digital world.

873
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>We're moving to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and listen, I am seeing more products and projects

875
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:42.239
<v Speaker 3>launching now that are clearly superior to the traditional banking system,

876
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.840
<v Speaker 3>the traditional finance system, And it is just a matter

877
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<v Speaker 3>of time, I think, before this era completely remaps how

878
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<v Speaker 3>we think we're even going to do. And I'm talking

879
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<v Speaker 3>not just for personal but for businesses, et cetera. The

880
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<v Speaker 3>opportunity is going to be huge. And just the fact

881
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<v Speaker 3>that you'd be able to spread you know, stable coins

882
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<v Speaker 3>around the world against the US Treasury is pretty significant.

883
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<v Speaker 3>What did you think about Tether's audit. Do you think

884
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<v Speaker 3>it's a little fluffy or do you feel like, hey, no,

885
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<v Speaker 3>they finally did something here.

886
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<v Speaker 1>I think twofold one they finally did something, and then

887
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<v Speaker 1>they finally did something for well, just audit twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Five, right, yeah, just a little fluffy.

889
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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty four, twenty eighteen, let's go back, no, no, no, no, no,

890
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<v Speaker 2>just to twenty twenty five.

891
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you figured out why they're buying so

893
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<v Speaker 1>much gold, right, you know, because I mean, obviously it's

894
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<v Speaker 1>screaming to me. Look, I mean shout out to everybody

895
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 1>at Tether, but it's screaming to me just how out

896
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of bounds they've been running for so long that you know,

897
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<v Speaker 1>there's all this gathering of gold and then finally doing

898
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<v Speaker 1>an audit and it only being for twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know about you.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to clean the books and you know, get

901
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<v Speaker 3>them in position to where they can you know, actually

902
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<v Speaker 3>operate under the Genius Act, you know, essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel, see those books weren't right, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you that right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, listen, it's well, well, at least you know Inron

906
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 4>never did that.

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<v Speaker 2>So during the same sentence as Enron, I haven't been

908
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<v Speaker 2>doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not Yeah, that's not a good that's not a

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<v Speaker 4>good look. I agree with you. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, listen, we're gonna We're gonna cover more like this.

912
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<v Speaker 3>We'll have more guests on the show. You guys, have

913
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<v Speaker 3>a guest you want to bring in, drop them in

914
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<v Speaker 3>the comments down below.

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<v Speaker 4>Our producers read all those. I do as well.

916
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<v Speaker 3>And of course, if you're not following digital perspectives out

917
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<v Speaker 3>there on YouTube and Twitter, you should be. I'll leave

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<v Speaker 3>a link down there for Brad you. Of course, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't need a link to leave for the legend.

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<v Speaker 4>What am I talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Just just you know where to get and follow Brad. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me, do you want to talk anything about the

923
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<v Speaker 3>event next year?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Guys?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you talk about anything yet?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't talk about it yet, Okay, we should wait

928
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<v Speaker 1>and to see if the Clarity Act passes.

929
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<v Speaker 4>It fat me how things go.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll come back and plug.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it. I like it. All right, you guys

932
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<v Speaker 4>know what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll catch you later right here on the x r

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<v Speaker 3>P pot.

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<v Speaker 4>Take care,
