Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the
Speaker 2: Cage to Night and today we have on a very
Speaker 2: special guest we've had them on before. Friend of the show,
Speaker 2: the current runner in the American Congress Party for his
Speaker 2: district in South Carolina, Clayton Katerry. Welcome back to the
Speaker 2: Cult Conspiracy.
Speaker 3: Brother, Thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure to
Speaker 3: be here and to talk to your audience. I know
Speaker 3: they're very open minded and interested for a revolution, so
Speaker 3: let's show him how to do it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, And you know Raven Lee and you have
Speaker 2: never met before, and there may be certain cult members
Speaker 2: who have never heard of you, of the American Congress
Speaker 2: Party and what you stand for. So give the cult
Speaker 2: members that we may not know a little brief background
Speaker 2: into you, your party, your ambitions as a party, all
Speaker 2: the things.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean a high level. We're pro humanitarian. We
Speaker 3: believe in humanity, we believe in saving this planet. We
Speaker 3: believe that every single person on this planet is a
Speaker 3: part of one giant family. And through divisive actions, whether
Speaker 3: it's through Democrats, Republicans, media news outlets, movies, entertainment, we're
Speaker 3: getting divided every single way we can men from women,
Speaker 3: whites from blacks, Americans from I don't know, Latinos, take
Speaker 3: your pick. We're being divided everywhere in our entire political spectrum.
Speaker 4: And so the American Congress.
Speaker 3: Party is born out of that idea that we need
Speaker 3: to come together, We need to be more unified. We
Speaker 3: need to implement policies that take care of the American people.
Speaker 3: Our primary three are free medication for all. We believe
Speaker 3: in Medicaid for all. It needs to be upgraded, of course,
Speaker 3: because it's not the best. We need to have free
Speaker 3: non chemical food for everyone. The SNAP program is out
Speaker 3: of date and enables people to just drink junk food,
Speaker 3: eat junk food, drink soda, drink terrible stuff for them,
Speaker 3: and it's putting them in a place of conditioning where
Speaker 3: they're unable to break free. And the last place is
Speaker 3: we need a free, upgraded education system. As we kind
Speaker 3: of talked about in the green room, that's a little bit.
Speaker 3: What I'm working on is integrating real, concrete spiritual practices
Speaker 3: that are based in science in order for us to
Speaker 3: propel humanity into the next stage of our evolution. It's
Speaker 3: going to be a Christness revolution.
Speaker 4: And we're not.
Speaker 3: I don't see it happening with either of the two parties,
Speaker 3: so we needed to start a new one. So that's
Speaker 3: the American Congress Party. It's why I'm running for US
Speaker 3: House of Representatives South Carolina District one. So if you
Speaker 3: like what I have to say, tell some friends and
Speaker 3: family in South Carolina about me, Clayton Q Terry, because
Speaker 3: I'll be a writing candidate.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's break down some of those platforms, right,
Speaker 2: I think everybody would agree SNAP benefits going to healthy
Speaker 2: food and not being able to buy junk. I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure you're not going to get much pushback from the
Speaker 2: from regular taxpayers.
Speaker 1: That sounds good to me.
Speaker 5: You also, multiple states have implemented SNAP rate waivers so
Speaker 5: that exclude different types of sugar food and energy drinks
Speaker 5: and candy and so overall though it's always cheaper by
Speaker 5: the great value version of things rather than being able,
Speaker 5: and they actually implement that they would rather you buy
Speaker 5: the most the cheapest food than actually any healthy food.
Speaker 5: Is this like something that is for everyone or something
Speaker 5: that you are just talking about in certain demographics or
Speaker 5: you know, poverty levels, just is it for the like
Speaker 5: universal for everybody kind of like a socialist thing or
Speaker 5: is this just for specific grit like level of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question, and I guess the SNAP
Speaker 3: program is kind of just an introduction to the conversation.
Speaker 4: Start.
Speaker 3: So, right now, we have we waste. I think there's
Speaker 3: one hundred or there's fifteen million people with food insecurity
Speaker 3: in America, meaning they don't know where they're going to
Speaker 3: get their next meal from. There's one hundred and fifteen million.
Speaker 3: I need to brush up on that.
Speaker 2: It's like that's like a third of our population. It's
Speaker 2: gotta be like fifteen million.
Speaker 3: Our Our society is very sick right now, is what
Speaker 3: I'll say. And food is very easy to grow. You
Speaker 3: plan a seed, you come back and it's and it
Speaker 3: has its food for you right whether it's a tomato
Speaker 3: and apple.
Speaker 4: Nature will take care of the heavy lifting for us.
Speaker 3: Right now, A lot of our money is being wasted
Speaker 3: by funneling it into corn subsidies, different herbicized pesticides. That's
Speaker 3: destroying the environment, destroying the agricultural We also have the
Speaker 3: the perversion of you know, big pharma getting in bed
Speaker 3: with big food so that they poison our food to
Speaker 3: make us sick. So what we will see in the
Speaker 3: future is whenever we start purifying our food our land,
Speaker 3: we won't need as much, we won't need to eat
Speaker 3: as much food, and so then you won't have the
Speaker 3: necessity that we're seeing now. And you can see by
Speaker 3: the size of foods getting bigger, they're less nutrient dense.
Speaker 4: So big picture this will be for everybody.
Speaker 3: It's something that we can use such as like food forces,
Speaker 3: where we're able to set up community gardens as well.
Speaker 3: This is a part of that ties into the education
Speaker 3: because these three are very interconnected. Where we can teach
Speaker 3: kids how to garden, how to get their hands dirty,
Speaker 3: we can allow people to have gardens.
Speaker 4: Of their own.
Speaker 3: Right now, there's a lot of zoning ordinance that don't
Speaker 3: actually allow people to grow their own gardens. And I
Speaker 3: think you know webs on on purpose or not, it
Speaker 3: is a pulling us away from nature. And by pulling
Speaker 3: away from nature, it is creating a rift between us
Speaker 3: and reality and base this away from this concrete world.
Speaker 3: And so we really need to away from that and
Speaker 3: Big Picture will be able to subsidize it all. We
Speaker 3: just have to get our priorities straight right, So.
Speaker 2: I guess my question is a follow up to that,
Speaker 2: and so are we still saying we do want America
Speaker 2: to be healthier overall? No doubt nobody's arguing that point.
Speaker 2: But as far as this goes, is this just for
Speaker 2: snap benefits and government spending or like, Well, I still
Speaker 2: have the freedom hypothetically in like the dream scenario for
Speaker 2: the American Congress Party, Well, I still have the freedom
Speaker 2: to go grab a baconator and like an extra large
Speaker 2: bag of Dorito's. But I'm spending my own money on
Speaker 2: these products. That's fine. I have the freedom to do so.
Speaker 2: But as far as the money that is being sent
Speaker 2: there via tax dollars to help those in need, it
Speaker 2: is strictly going to be the healthier foods.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 3: Okay, you got to let people be free. Foundationally, we
Speaker 3: have to have freedom for all. If you want to
Speaker 3: go gorge yourself on Gurrito's, absolutely good, but you should
Speaker 3: have the ability to have healthy options if you wish.
Speaker 5: I guess the biggest thing is is that healthy food
Speaker 5: for everyone is more expensive than any type of sugary
Speaker 5: fast food, chemically laced food.
Speaker 6: Would that be what's something you would like?
Speaker 5: What are what are the top priorities because of food
Speaker 5: insecurity and like the food deserts and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: We have like twenty four million roughly people that are
Speaker 5: in like a food desert situation. So like, what specifically
Speaker 5: would you guys be focusing on first, because there's so
Speaker 5: many aspects to that conversation going out and planting a seed. Well,
Speaker 5: the thing is is that they're going seedless and they're
Speaker 5: taking away the seeds from people. So like, there's so
Speaker 5: many aspects when it comes to food in and of itself,
Speaker 5: especially going against big pharma because they've had their hands
Speaker 5: since the nineteen fifties in food industry. So that's going
Speaker 5: to be like a damn near almost impossible thing because
Speaker 5: the FDA won't do anything because they've been silent since
Speaker 5: then and got told to shut up about it. So like,
Speaker 5: how would you try to go about doing this in
Speaker 5: a I guess in the best way possible because you're
Speaker 5: going to be battling on a lot of fronts because
Speaker 5: it's a big industry.
Speaker 3: Definitely already battling a lot of fronts. You're absolutely right,
Speaker 3: But you're absolutely right. I think you know what I'm
Speaker 3: getting called to speak into is that whenever I kind
Speaker 3: of started identifying as being spiritual or tapping into what
Speaker 3: the spiritual realm was. A lot of the programming that
Speaker 3: I was given was that spiritual people don't get into politics.
Speaker 3: Spiritual people don't have money. You should stay poor, you
Speaker 3: should stay out of politics, because both of those things
Speaker 3: are evil, they're dirty, they're muddy. Spiritual people are clean,
Speaker 3: they don't touch those sort of things. And the reality
Speaker 3: that I kind of came to throughout my journey is
Speaker 3: realizing that if those are the two elements of power
Speaker 3: on this planet is politics and money. Money has a
Speaker 3: little bit more power, but there's also politics. So in
Speaker 3: order for us to deem these captured industries, as you
Speaker 3: know you were talking about, we need people to become
Speaker 3: We need spiritual people to become powerful politically and monetarily
Speaker 3: because a lot of people, majority of this planet runs
Speaker 3: on me. Most people won't do anything unless you pay them.
Speaker 3: Most people in these captured organizations are only doing it
Speaker 3: because of the paycheck. You can look at how many
Speaker 3: times people will say, well, I'm just doing my job,
Speaker 3: you know, and that goes all the way back to
Speaker 3: Nazi Germany of the soldiers just well, I'm just doing
Speaker 3: my job. I'm just doing what I'm told to do,
Speaker 3: and I get it. And it still happens to this
Speaker 3: day where people will go and kill innocent people in
Speaker 3: foreign countries just because it's their job to do it.
Speaker 3: They're paid to do it if they know their livelihoods
Speaker 3: at stake. So the fundamental thing is we need spirit
Speaker 3: people to become powerful. When that happens, we will be
Speaker 3: able to quickly revolutionize all of these industries. And through
Speaker 3: my education programs well that the Cajun Night so promptly
Speaker 3: discussed earlier.
Speaker 4: It it's giving.
Speaker 3: People that knowledge because there is knowledge that had hidden
Speaker 3: from the common people for five thousand, five hundred years,
Speaker 3: and through giving that knowledge back to people, it will
Speaker 3: allow the common people to become powerful monetarily, spiritually, financially,
Speaker 3: and will be at peace. We'll no longer be afraid
Speaker 3: of the things that we are doing, and so that
Speaker 3: will have a ripple effect that will purify most of
Speaker 3: these industries.
Speaker 5: Okay, what specific knowledge are you speaking on that's fifty
Speaker 5: five hundred years old?
Speaker 4: Sure it, you can look at it in many different ways.
Speaker 3: This kind of taps into a lot of symbolism, a
Speaker 3: lot of this stuff that I know Jonathan kind of
Speaker 3: has gotten into on his podcast with the metamistics.
Speaker 4: It's knowledge of the elite.
Speaker 3: If you will, you know, you have families like the
Speaker 3: Rock of the Carnegies and their families have been around
Speaker 3: for seven eight generations. They're trillionaires over We don't really
Speaker 3: even know how much money they're worth because they.
Speaker 4: Divvy it up.
Speaker 3: They try to hide it because if the comic people
Speaker 3: knew how much money they were actually worth, there would
Speaker 3: be a revolution overnight.
Speaker 4: There would be bodies in the street.
Speaker 3: And so the knowledge of it is understanding kind of
Speaker 3: the fundamentals of this world, understanding how energy works. Now
Speaker 3: whenever people start to talk about like occult practices, this
Speaker 3: starts tapping into where people will do things like dark
Speaker 3: magic or worship, demonology, or.
Speaker 4: Let's say, lower vibration.
Speaker 3: Frequencies in order for them to get this knowledge. But
Speaker 3: there's a divine way to do it. And this knowledge
Speaker 3: is also gated as well, right, you have to be
Speaker 3: a member of certain secret societies. So I've been blessed
Speaker 3: that I came across my guru, whose prince Omitab of
Speaker 3: the Cholla dynasty. The Chola dynasty has been in power
Speaker 3: for twenty three hundred years I believe, spanning back before
Speaker 3: the Great Wall of China was even started, before the
Speaker 3: Roman Empire. They had a massive dynasty and at their
Speaker 3: height about a thousand years ago, they controlled majority of
Speaker 3: I believe it was the Indian Ocean from India to
Speaker 3: Sri Lanka to the a lot of Southeast Asia. So
Speaker 3: they controlled majority of the trading routes and they were
Speaker 3: able to stay in power because of having proper knowledge.
Speaker 3: And so my Guru, whenever he incarnated on this planet,
Speaker 3: his goal is to save mother Nature, to stop nuclear war,
Speaker 3: to save our children. And so through my spiritual gor journey,
Speaker 3: I came into contact with him and he started teaching
Speaker 3: me this knowledge. And now he has tesked me with
Speaker 3: teaching the American people. It.
Speaker 1: Wow, what was the dynasty? You said?
Speaker 4: This was Chola Chola.
Speaker 6: It's it's from the eleventh eleventh century.
Speaker 1: Wow, just look it up. So you're bloodline descendant from
Speaker 1: this dynasty or his like way of thinking and knowledge
Speaker 1: goes to that dynasty.
Speaker 4: I guess both. Yeah. The knowledge is universal.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: You can use the knowledge for good or for evil.
Speaker 4: But right now on this planet, ninety percent of people
Speaker 4: use it for evil.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, dude, I agree with you as far
Speaker 2: as uh it's knowledge is power, right, and and to
Speaker 2: a spiritual realm, to a financial realm whatever. For what
Speaker 2: I'm it's refreshing to hear you say that, because it's
Speaker 2: not just like the money in the power is how
Speaker 2: you're going to make change happen, regardless of what change
Speaker 2: you're looking for, whether that's positive or negative. Dude, we
Speaker 2: are We're poor folk, Okay, Realistically, in the grand scheme
Speaker 2: of how the world powers shake out, even if you're
Speaker 2: a multi millionaire, you're you're not exactly killing it unless
Speaker 2: there's certain little tidbits of knowledge. I'm learning more and
Speaker 2: more every day about how how finances work that no
Speaker 2: one has ever heard of, Like real shit, have either
Speaker 2: of you ever heard of overnight reserve interest transfers?
Speaker 6: I know nothing about Jurney stuff. I heard. I learned
Speaker 6: a whole bunch of stuff today and I was like,
Speaker 6: what random thing?
Speaker 2: I just found this out today and I looked into it,
Speaker 2: but like, this is an example of knowledge that has
Speaker 2: been kept from the public, which but take that for
Speaker 2: whatever you want, that the elites are doing every night.
Speaker 2: So basically you give your money to a bank overnight,
Speaker 2: because while office hours might stop at a certain point,
Speaker 2: the financial global world never stops ever, ever, ever. So
Speaker 2: you give them all of this money to hold overnight,
Speaker 2: and they're actually going to pay you interest for letting
Speaker 2: them borrow your money just for the night. It's currently
Speaker 2: at like three point six percent. Now that doesn't sound
Speaker 2: crazy to us, But if I took all let's say
Speaker 2: I had like ten million dollars. Throwing this out as
Speaker 2: an example, every night I go to the bank and
Speaker 2: I transfer this money to them, and it gains three
Speaker 2: percent interest. And then tomorrow and first thing in the morning,
Speaker 2: I'm pulling it out. And then I'm doing the same
Speaker 2: thing again and again and again and again. And that's
Speaker 2: just in this whole other thing that's just accruing interest
Speaker 2: while I actually am doing my other shit with other
Speaker 2: funds other places. It's like, no one thinks, what do
Speaker 2: you mean that the bank is making money off of
Speaker 2: you in the middle of the night, And I could
Speaker 2: have been doing this whole time. This is little tidbits
Speaker 2: of knowledge that the wealthy people. Oh, they know this,
Speaker 2: They've been doing it for years obviously for us.
Speaker 6: I mean they wrote the books. They literally wrote how
Speaker 6: this works, like.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Oh, it's mind blowing anyways, So.
Speaker 5: With your education system, you're going to be you want
Speaker 5: to implement that kind of ideology into the public sector
Speaker 5: of education or like how like how does it that
Speaker 5: you want to revitalize? Because our our system is very
Speaker 5: broken in many ways? So what are your kind of
Speaker 5: your ideas about I guess redoing the public school system?
Speaker 3: Sure, and fundamentally, it's kind of the answer similar to
Speaker 3: what Jacob was asking earlier around you know, is this
Speaker 3: going to completely replace it? And the answer is is
Speaker 3: that you should still have the option to use what
Speaker 3: our current system is. If that's really what education you
Speaker 3: want to use, by all means, you can go for it.
Speaker 3: But what I envision is like an upgraded education. Monesssory
Speaker 3: schools are probably the closest that I would suggest to it,
Speaker 3: But right now those are even reserved for people who
Speaker 3: have financial access to them, and for me, I see
Speaker 3: those as being the closest model, or at least a
Speaker 3: closer model. But again, I don't want to speak on
Speaker 3: behalf of all Monessory schools. I'm not I didn't grow
Speaker 3: up in one. I don't know anybody.
Speaker 6: I was a monascory.
Speaker 5: I was a monessory school teacher for a bit, oh okay,
Speaker 5: and my children have been in monastery schools and it's.
Speaker 6: A deep passion of mine. Actually, so I know quite
Speaker 6: a bit about it.
Speaker 4: I might need to pick your brain then a little
Speaker 4: bit more about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it. I absolutely love it.
Speaker 5: I really do finally believe to my core that it
Speaker 5: is not a one size sits although I really want
Speaker 5: people to understand that, Like I have one child that
Speaker 5: I put in it and it epically failed for her
Speaker 5: because she needed more because she is dyslexic and she
Speaker 5: has you know, she needed a lot more things. That
Speaker 5: the Monassory school is for children that are able to
Speaker 5: be independent, really independent, because it's basically treating them as
Speaker 5: little baby little humans like little adults. And there's like
Speaker 5: I'm breaking it really simply down. But everything that you
Speaker 5: do in the Monastery school is for a reason. So
Speaker 5: like every single thing that we do, the trays that
Speaker 5: we put out that have glass jars and that everything,
Speaker 5: like everything has a purpose, and the purpose is to
Speaker 5: help them learn independence, to help them have an imagination,
Speaker 5: to be able to problem solve.
Speaker 1: On their own.
Speaker 5: To want to freely learn, to want to freely explore,
Speaker 5: to value humanity, to value one another. It's honestly, it's
Speaker 5: one of the greatest things. My oldest child has is
Speaker 5: a monesssory kid for a lot of years, and I
Speaker 5: firmly believe that if it is a good fit for
Speaker 5: your child, that it should be at least accessible for
Speaker 5: the developmental years of pre K and kindergarten, should be
Speaker 5: accessible for everyone. At that point you start to really
Speaker 5: kind of see if they need more guidance, you know,
Speaker 5: if they have other needs that aren't being met. But
Speaker 5: for the vast majority of people, I think it's such
Speaker 5: a strong skill to be able from three to five,
Speaker 5: three to six, be able to allow the children to
Speaker 5: experience that type of learning is so important.
Speaker 3: Completely agree, and so it's stuff like that that I
Speaker 3: feel should be available for everyone. The I'm not sure
Speaker 3: if you've come across this, but there's like a meme
Speaker 3: or a political cartoon maybe if you've seen it where
Speaker 3: it shows this professor standing in front of a classroom
Speaker 3: and in the classroom is a giraffe, a fish, a monkey,
Speaker 3: a whale, you know, all these different animals, and you
Speaker 3: see him pointing off in the distance and he says, Okay,
Speaker 3: for your final exam, you will all climb the tree.
Speaker 3: And so I feel that that wraps up and summarizes
Speaker 3: our public education system where it absolutely can benefit certain
Speaker 3: individuals who thrive on that, who want to learn that,
Speaker 3: and we should absolutely preserve that. But there's other individuals
Speaker 3: who go their entire lives thinking that they're dumb or
Speaker 3: stupid or worthless because they were putting their circle that
Speaker 3: was put in a square hole.
Speaker 6: Yes, I formally agree.
Speaker 5: And also like Waldorf education system is also a really
Speaker 5: wonderful one. That's an Australian philosopher that created that system,
Speaker 5: and it monessory can mix and blend, you can blend both,
Speaker 5: but you know that both of them are really great
Speaker 5: types of learning systems. Also, the Japanese has a really
Speaker 5: wonderful system that they created as well. I've looked a
Speaker 5: lot into other education around the world and some of
Speaker 5: them are doing like absolutely killing it. But the big
Speaker 5: thing is that circling back to the food is the
Speaker 5: food that we give our children inside the school system
Speaker 5: you're talking about like some of these some of these countries,
Speaker 5: they wake up at four o'clock in the morning to
Speaker 5: start preparing the meals for every child in that school.
Speaker 1: Oh and it's not that much date, it's not that
Speaker 1: much more expensive.
Speaker 2: For the record, No, it's one of my former father
Speaker 2: in laws is the head food administrator for an entire
Speaker 2: private school. He is able to get the kids real
Speaker 2: ingredients and make real food for cheaper than what the
Speaker 2: public schools can do. And it's because he actually shops
Speaker 2: around and like cares about what these kids are eating.
Speaker 6: Well and using.
Speaker 5: But that's the problem though, as we don't utilize our
Speaker 5: local farmers right that has gone away. We want to
Speaker 5: go to Cisco, and we want to go to these
Speaker 5: big bulk things instead of utilizing, yeah, instead of utilizing
Speaker 5: the people that are actually in our state surrounding us.
Speaker 5: And that's what some of the other countries do is
Speaker 5: they go to the farmers market. Actually, I watched a
Speaker 5: documentary about this one chef. Basically he's a chef that
Speaker 5: serves this entire school and they go out and they
Speaker 5: buy food first thing in the morning at the farmer's
Speaker 5: markets and like the fresh food markets and stuff as
Speaker 5: soon as they catch did the catches come in. They're
Speaker 5: buying for the school that day and they start preparing
Speaker 5: and like, you know, that's one of the things I
Speaker 5: really did enjoy about Montesteria is like we pick out
Speaker 5: the food that we serve for our snack time and stuff,
Speaker 5: but with the children also help us. So like they
Speaker 5: at three years old, they're in the kitchen with us,
Speaker 5: you know, doing the dishes. They have their task, they
Speaker 5: have you know, they have a certain way of they
Speaker 5: have to put everything a certain way.
Speaker 6: They have to learn how to do it.
Speaker 5: Like they have their own mats they have to put down,
Speaker 5: they have to be able to do their cups. They
Speaker 5: learn how to cut their apples, they learn how to
Speaker 5: like do all their own things, and it's it's something
Speaker 5: that we're lacking. Like unfortunately, in public school, you're talking
Speaker 5: one teacher per we'll say twenty five to thirty eight kids,
Speaker 5: depending on where you're at Verse there was three of
Speaker 5: us for twenty four kids. So that way everyone had
Speaker 5: access to a teacher that needed to have access. In
Speaker 5: that way, we could teach different lessons. We all taught
Speaker 5: in different parts of the house because we obviously were
Speaker 5: in a house, so we all had different rooms. Mine
Speaker 5: was a science in biology and social studies area, and
Speaker 5: so like I got to sit down and do one
Speaker 5: on one lessons or I did group lessons, and like,
Speaker 5: you know, it's a lot more personable than in just
Speaker 5: a public school. You're talking one person trying to do
Speaker 5: all this stuff and individually learn each kid. And it's just,
Speaker 5: honestly to me, it's a broken system.
Speaker 4: No, you nailed it.
Speaker 3: And I think something that you put in there that's
Speaker 3: super valuable is the kids getting in the kitchen because
Speaker 3: you know, for the longest time, I knew nothing about nutrition.
Speaker 3: I kind of proudly, I guess I was able to
Speaker 3: take four semesters of like home economics in high school
Speaker 3: just because I loved eating and it was easy to do,
Speaker 3: and I kind of had this mentality of like I
Speaker 3: kind of knew it was weird. I kind of knew
Speaker 3: that the system was broken back whenever I was a kid,
Speaker 3: but you don't know how to articulate it when you're
Speaker 3: a kid. So I was like, I'm going to take advantages.
Speaker 3: It's like I get a degree either way. But like
Speaker 3: even through all out that you don't learn about the
Speaker 3: nutrition of the food. We basically just made chicken every
Speaker 3: single day. Like it was very it wasn't like the
Speaker 3: most dynamic thing. But the crux of it is you're
Speaker 3: not taught about nutrition. You're not taught about the importance
Speaker 3: of like what you're putting in your body. You know,
Speaker 3: it's very true that our bodies are temples and we
Speaker 3: should treat them as such. And what you feed it
Speaker 3: every single day will in fact scientifically change your DNA
Speaker 3: and change every cell in your body over the course
Speaker 3: of seven years.
Speaker 4: And so for us to.
Speaker 3: Not even just acknowledge it or even touch on it
Speaker 3: is mind blowing to me. And so you know, it's
Speaker 3: that's why I really emphasize the upgrading of our education system,
Speaker 3: because we've really done a disservice psychologically and physically to
Speaker 3: our entire country in regards and in the name of
Speaker 3: health and wellness.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so.
Speaker 2: Now on the third point that you made, you were
Speaker 2: talking about free medical care for all. Now I have
Speaker 2: to ask you, because there are so many talking points
Speaker 2: to pretty much no medicaid and then talking points to
Speaker 2: universal health care.
Speaker 1: My biggest question is, let's say that this was.
Speaker 2: Approved and it became a government program to wear medicaid
Speaker 2: free of charge for all people, similar to Canada, would
Speaker 2: you still have the option and reasonable prices on people
Speaker 2: seeking their own private insurance, or would it be mandated
Speaker 2: that everybody uses the government insurance.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely free freedom for all. You get to choose
Speaker 3: where you want to go. We're not trying to put
Speaker 3: practices out of business. We're here to at least allow
Speaker 3: a free alternative that is ideally run in a more
Speaker 3: proficient way. To really get the big picture of this,
Speaker 3: you have to go back to the early nineteen hundreds
Speaker 3: and understand what the Carnegies and Rockefellers did to this
Speaker 3: country with the things like the Flexner Report. And I
Speaker 3: see you guys shaking your heads. But for those who
Speaker 3: may not know, you know, for the longest time in
Speaker 3: America we are extremely, extremely healthy. But then in the
Speaker 3: early nineteen hundreds, the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, they instituted and
Speaker 3: commissioned I think it was Andrew Flexner. I forget his
Speaker 3: first name. I think it was Andrew Flexner, and they
Speaker 3: commissioned him to go and get this do a report
Speaker 3: on what everyone's doing. And fundamentally he created this report
Speaker 3: that completely bastardized homeopathy like nature, natural substances like plant medicine,
Speaker 3: or different things like this, where you now have him
Speaker 3: going out and saying that these are quack doctors. If
Speaker 3: they're not, you know, if they're using certain herbs or medicine,
Speaker 3: you know, majority of things can be solved with very
Speaker 3: natural healing modalities. However, you now have Rockefeller, who his
Speaker 3: main claim to fame got him very wealthy was the
Speaker 3: oil industry.
Speaker 4: He had the railroads as well, and so he would
Speaker 4: ship oil all over the country.
Speaker 3: Well, they found out that you could take petroleum and
Speaker 3: you could create derived chemicals, you know, through doctors, and
Speaker 3: then they paid higher into they paid higher medical institutions
Speaker 3: to push these medicines. So now you have doctors coming
Speaker 3: out of school who all they know is how to
Speaker 3: prescribe medicine, what the side effects are, and how to
Speaker 3: negate the side effects of different drugs.
Speaker 5: And we really, I say, with more medication exactly.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's a good addition because none of them
Speaker 3: actually get to the root cause. And on my podcast
Speaker 3: Traveling to Consciousness, I've interviewed so many people who were
Speaker 3: in the medical field. They said, hold on, these people
Speaker 3: aren't getting healthy. They start healing their patient, getting to
Speaker 3: the root cause of it. Like let's look at your diet,
Speaker 3: let's look at your sleep schedule, and they start healing
Speaker 3: their patients.
Speaker 4: They then get called into.
Speaker 3: Their supervisor's room, their manager's room, and they said, hey,
Speaker 3: we see that you're, you know, healing your clients. We
Speaker 3: can't do that because it's very bad for business. So
Speaker 3: you're gonna we're gonna have to ask you to stop
Speaker 3: doing that. And all of these all these doctors started
Speaker 3: leaving the medical field because of it. And this was
Speaker 3: before COVID. By the way that they started leaving, I mean,
Speaker 3: I can only imagine what the numbers look like now.
Speaker 3: And so you know, there's instances after instances where our
Speaker 3: medical professionals are not being taught how to heal the
Speaker 3: root cause and instead they're learning how to put band
Speaker 3: aids on something that needs surgery.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, I had a one of my
Speaker 2: cousins was actually a chiropractor. And there's a whole group
Speaker 2: out there that believed that chiropractics is just quackery, right,
Speaker 2: and then there's other people that swear that chiropractics is
Speaker 2: like a some might even say, life changing field of
Speaker 2: meta And the problem is the Flexner Report is a
Speaker 2: great example of this right, Flexner Report.
Speaker 1: Was nineteen ten. Chiropractics was really officially created, if you
Speaker 1: want to call it that, in eighteen ninety five, so
Speaker 1: just a few years prior to this.
Speaker 2: And here's the bitch of it. Chiropractics is an amazing field.
Speaker 2: A spinal alignment, especially for people with nerve issues, is
Speaker 2: seriously life altering. The problem is the guy who created
Speaker 2: it also himself, while he was doing some really amazing
Speaker 2: things with chiropractics, also was a little bit of a quack,
Speaker 2: possibly dabbling into the snake oil salesman's side of it,
Speaker 2: because he went on record and said that a spinal
Speaker 2: alignment could cure deafness, and he made a lot of
Speaker 2: claims like this, and it's like, okay that the problem
Speaker 2: is that was the founder of it. So the entire
Speaker 2: field got thrown into the realm of quackery and got
Speaker 2: ran through the mud, even though people still swear by
Speaker 2: it to this day. And it's things like this that
Speaker 2: the Flexner Report looked at just on a glance and said,
Speaker 2: you know what, nah fuck, all that is is garbage.
Speaker 1: We can't trust it. It's bob.
Speaker 2: Never mind the fact that there was a lot of
Speaker 2: evidence to show otherwise.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I absolutely agree. The medical industry is, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a crazy one to say least much.
Speaker 5: I mean it's a technocratic it's a technocratic approach. I
Speaker 5: mean that's really what it boils down to. They treated
Speaker 5: body like a machine and instead of actually like figuring
Speaker 5: out what's going on, they've completely separated mind and spirit
Speaker 5: from it. It's just you know, here's a pill, throw
Speaker 5: a patch on it, and then that's it. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's it's been like the way. And that's kind of
Speaker 5: like my background. You haven't talked to me before. I
Speaker 5: have a big background in birth work and stuff and
Speaker 5: so natural birth and things like that. And so when
Speaker 5: it comes to technocratic views, it's interesting how it's bled
Speaker 5: into every aspect of the American health and what we do,
Speaker 5: and how if we look at all all the other countries,
Speaker 5: so are you utilizing different ways is of medicine in
Speaker 5: different forms of homeopathic medicines and stuff like that into
Speaker 5: integrated into their stuff, and they have a lot better
Speaker 5: outcomes than we do. I mean if you look at
Speaker 5: some of the like you know, Norway and Finland and
Speaker 5: those kind of places, they integrate their main person that
Speaker 5: gives helps women give birth is midwives. It's seventy percent midwives,
Speaker 5: and then they have OB's on the back end for
Speaker 5: obviously if a case of emergency, but they have wonderful
Speaker 5: outcomes birth wise versus us, we're one of the lowest
Speaker 5: in the world. Like really realistically, we spend the most
Speaker 5: money on birth out of any country in the world.
Speaker 5: Yet we're like around forty to forty eight. I haven't
Speaker 5: checked it in like a year or so, but we're
Speaker 5: around that number of like actual outcomes, like birth outcomes,
Speaker 5: Like Ethiopia has better birth outcomes than we do.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, straight, Yeah, Like that's.
Speaker 5: And that's just an example of a type of field
Speaker 5: in medical profession in America, and you have so many
Speaker 5: workers that are trying to make a difference but get
Speaker 5: silenced over and over again. You know, I knew a
Speaker 5: GI specialist she passed away now that was my children's
Speaker 5: GI specialist, and she was advocating for all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 5: She actually went across to India and was doing different
Speaker 5: work all over the world, trying to gather more information
Speaker 5: from other doctors to bring back to Louisiana to implement
Speaker 5: different things. Because she's like, look, things have to change,
Speaker 5: Like we can't just be stuck in the mud and
Speaker 5: doing the same thing with throwing pills at stuff that's
Speaker 5: not going to work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and we've even heard from doctor doctor
Speaker 2: Ingle right talking about how she was a pioneer as
Speaker 2: far as American birthing is concerned. But I mean, hell,
Speaker 2: even to hear the work that she did overseas. Granted, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing apples to apples here. Russia had significantly
Speaker 2: worseshit going on at that time than America did, for sure,
Speaker 2: But even with all these advancements to show that we
Speaker 2: are still that low on the chart as far as
Speaker 2: infant mortality, that is still mind blowing.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look at how much money we pump
Speaker 3: into it as well. Right, Like, I think you hit
Speaker 3: the nail on the head about being a technocratic system.
Speaker 3: You know, I think we we did something with science,
Speaker 3: and I you know, I'm a computer engineer, I have
Speaker 3: a Bachelor of Science by trade, grew up very logically minded,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of value in science. But the
Speaker 3: issue that I believe I am starting to see is
Speaker 3: that we have taken the human spirit out of science.
Speaker 3: We've taken it out of the realm of possibility, and
Speaker 3: instead people have started to you know, I'm not a
Speaker 3: proponent of religion, but we've essentially made science the new religion.
Speaker 3: And you just have to look at the history of
Speaker 3: America in the last fifty seventy years to know that
Speaker 3: it is putting us down the wrong path. You know,
Speaker 3: we spend more on everything on education, on healthcare, and
Speaker 3: yet we're falling behind in every single category. And so
Speaker 3: you really have to start asking yourself, you know, are
Speaker 3: we going down the right path with just blindly saying well,
Speaker 3: this is what the science says, this is what technology
Speaker 3: is doing, you know, because it does feel that we
Speaker 3: are going down a very we are going down the
Speaker 3: path that is inconducive to the human spirit and the
Speaker 3: human will. And I mean, again, this is a huge
Speaker 3: reason that I got into politics is because I could
Speaker 3: just feel it. And now I'm seeing it more and
Speaker 3: more every day, and we have to put ourselves.
Speaker 4: We have to write the ship.
Speaker 3: You know, I grew up believing that America is the
Speaker 3: greatest country in the world, and every headline that I'm
Speaker 3: seeing is it's like making me feel like we're the
Speaker 3: terrorists and not just in the Middle East, but on
Speaker 3: our own people as well. With what we're doing to
Speaker 3: our bodies, to our minds, we're not nurturing ourselves, we're
Speaker 3: not nurturing our children, and so all of this kind
Speaker 3: of feeds into that whole picture of the free medication,
Speaker 3: free non chemical food, and free education.
Speaker 1: Absolutely I agree.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've definitely worked with programs with getting gardens
Speaker 5: in side public schools, you know, doing gardens, doing sustainability
Speaker 5: work and stuff. My daughter's school that she has, they
Speaker 5: have they have a hydroponic garden. They have three different
Speaker 5: types of gardens actually there. They have a high hydroproduct one,
Speaker 5: they have a food one, and they have a sensory
Speaker 5: garden as well. They have like live chickens, they have turtles,
Speaker 5: they have a therapy dog. They have all sorts of
Speaker 5: stuff integrated in this school and it's like, my god like,
Speaker 5: but it's fantastic because they're learning all sorts of things,
Speaker 5: they're not just learning one thing.
Speaker 6: And I've worked a lot.
Speaker 5: I am a huge believer, huge believer in community gardens.
Speaker 5: I've actually the community that we live in, I propose
Speaker 5: to them about a big community garden project, and we
Speaker 5: actually got quite a few people on board and they
Speaker 5: actually voted for it and stuff. It just ended up
Speaker 5: being the land they were trying to debat what they
Speaker 5: wanted to do with the land, and so it stalled
Speaker 5: it out.
Speaker 6: But it's it's something that I think most.
Speaker 5: Communities should have, and there is a lot of statistical
Speaker 5: data showing how well it is for communities, and not
Speaker 5: just like a lot of people think like, oh, okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: it provides food. It's actually the social aspect of it,
Speaker 5: and it reduces crime a large amount of crime, because
Speaker 5: people when they have something tangible that they're working on
Speaker 5: with the community, it has been shown that it will
Speaker 5: reduce crime. They first did it in Detroit, and you
Speaker 5: can go look up all the statistics about it. But
Speaker 5: it's a fantastic project they started in Detroit and this
Speaker 5: is still around. Their community garden has held out through
Speaker 5: all the gang violence and all the killings and everything
Speaker 5: that they've had go on. Nobody messes with that thing.
Speaker 5: They actually come and they help and they donate. They
Speaker 5: donate different seeds and different products to it, and they
Speaker 5: come and actually do stuff. And it's fascinating because people
Speaker 5: are like, oh, well, aren't people just going to tear
Speaker 5: it up now. I don't know about the you know,
Speaker 5: teenagers nowadays, but I will say that quite a few
Speaker 5: people when they start actually investing time in it. What
Speaker 5: it shows that it helps the social aspect of everyone
Speaker 5: around you, which boosts the mental and mental health of everybody,
Speaker 5: and it helps obviously feed the community and see things
Speaker 5: like that. So that's like one of the biggest things
Speaker 5: I harp on all the time. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I think I think we need to get you in
Speaker 3: the American Congress Party. You're saying all the right things.
Speaker 5: I'm like, maybe maybe I should join this group. Like
Speaker 5: I haven't heard of it until literally tonight. So I
Speaker 5: was like, he's like telling me about it. I was like,
Speaker 5: huh yeah, I'm like, I believe in a lot of
Speaker 5: this stuff like this.
Speaker 6: I have a huge drive for certain aspects of this
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, you're definitely welcome to join, and I'm happy
Speaker 3: to pick your brain because I mean getting back, like
Speaker 3: I knew about that Detroit. I haven't revisited it recently,
Speaker 3: but I know, like the housing prices went up in
Speaker 3: that area and it might have just been like on
Speaker 3: a stretch of road that they just planted this garden.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's literally between houses.
Speaker 5: Oh, they have a few of them, but the original
Speaker 5: one that they started right was in like the worst
Speaker 5: part of town. And they did this as a social experiment,
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, And it's really interesting because
Speaker 5: they thought for sure that the criminals, we're just gonna
Speaker 5: just completely destroy it.
Speaker 6: And what they.
Speaker 5: Found was is they slowly started to see more and
Speaker 5: more of these criminals start to volunteer there and start
Speaker 5: to help out more, and then the elderly came, and
Speaker 5: then they would help the elderly, and then it turned
Speaker 5: into this whole thing. And they actually have multiple of
Speaker 5: them throughout there. They have one in Chicago, they have them.
Speaker 5: They have them all throughout the country that they've studied
Speaker 5: to see what society would do with them, basically, and
Speaker 5: they also took surveys on mental health around the community.
Speaker 6: They did all.
Speaker 5: Sorts of stuff to try to see what it actually does.
Speaker 5: To be able to come together and watch something grow
Speaker 5: and be able to tangibly hold it, cut it up,
Speaker 5: prepare it and share it with somebody is a huge
Speaker 5: aspect that we're lacking because we no longer we're not
Speaker 5: operating in villages or tribes anymore. We don't have a
Speaker 5: chowhall that we can all go sit down and talk
Speaker 5: to each other.
Speaker 6: Help.
Speaker 5: We live next to each other straight apart, and we
Speaker 5: didn't know each other.
Speaker 1: For years, yeah, years.
Speaker 6: We never met and we have one street apart.
Speaker 5: And it's like that, that whole community aspect is missing
Speaker 5: from our society as a whole. I think more so
Speaker 5: in America than anywhere else, definitely.
Speaker 4: I mean you can look up videos.
Speaker 3: I think it's mostly in Europe or Italy at least,
Speaker 3: and everyone's outside. You're outside, you're in your community. They're
Speaker 3: drinking coffee, they're eating food. It's like a community event.
Speaker 3: You have a nice palazzo and everyone's hanging out. Yet
Speaker 3: here we're very insulated. We do everything pretty much isolated.
Speaker 4: We stay alone.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe you get a significant other and then
Speaker 3: you're just with them ninety percent of the time. We
Speaker 3: definitely have a society breakdown where where you are not
Speaker 3: connected to our neighbors and you know, if I you know,
Speaker 3: we're at a venture. I mean, it makes it difficult
Speaker 3: for people to gather, It makes it difficult, it makes
Speaker 3: it difficult to have revolutions.
Speaker 4: To house the oppressors.
Speaker 3: If you have a society that is very well connected,
Speaker 3: and I think that that it's a very important part
Speaker 3: as well that I'm putting together now of the American
Speaker 3: Congress Party that we need to implement because see, you know,
Speaker 3: whenever you get into a position of power, it can
Speaker 3: definitely corrupt you. You can start to feel as though
Speaker 3: you're a god, you can start to feel as though
Speaker 3: you're better than other people. Yet, if you have a
Speaker 3: populace that can keep you in check, then can it
Speaker 3: can at least attempt.
Speaker 4: To reduce that ego.
Speaker 3: But if you're isolating everyone, if you have no like
Speaker 3: higher authority that you are.
Speaker 4: Answering to, yeah, that you're not answering.
Speaker 3: To you right Like right now, I feel as though,
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of things that we're seeing happen
Speaker 3: within our current political situation. The President seems to be
Speaker 3: able to get away with a lot of things such
Speaker 3: as insider trading. Our Congress gets away with insider trading
Speaker 3: as well. And to me, you look at it and
Speaker 3: there's nothing holding them accountable. You know, if we had
Speaker 3: a society that where we were putting our hands in dirt,
Speaker 3: we were putting our hands in a guard in every
Speaker 3: day we were constantly talking about it, the tipping point
Speaker 3: would come a lot quicker. You know, you look at
Speaker 3: the Boston tea party, you look at what's happening, and
Speaker 3: that happened during the French revolutions. All of that were
Speaker 3: much greater societies than what we're dealing with today. And
Speaker 3: I have to feel and believe that the fact that
Speaker 3: we are so disconnected as a society. We're living next
Speaker 3: door to people who we could start a podcast with
Speaker 3: and we don't even know, I think is a perfect
Speaker 3: example of how the societal structure of America has been eroded.
Speaker 1: It definitely. I mean, you'll you'll still find you know,
Speaker 1: small town, USA, population of under two thousand people, and
Speaker 1: they do have that sense of community, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: If one person's kid is being a shithead, hell, half
Speaker 2: the town has already called mom about it because they
Speaker 2: all know.
Speaker 1: Or that's Julie from Downsta. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That you still have that, but not to the level
Speaker 2: that we once did. I mean it granted not in
Speaker 2: like big cities. We've never really had that in big cities.
Speaker 2: I get, well, that's.
Speaker 1: Not even true too. Because you'll have neighborhoods.
Speaker 5: You have little Italy had little communities and stuff, but
Speaker 5: now you don't have any of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these days, especially how suburbs have become what they
Speaker 2: have become, right, And I mean we could also I
Speaker 2: know there's gonna be a faction of people that's gonna
Speaker 2: blame COVID for why we as society have disconnected from
Speaker 2: each other, and maybe there is something to be said there,
Speaker 2: But culturally that has become more of a thing over.
Speaker 1: The last twenty years.
Speaker 2: I would honestly argue COVID might have thrown gasoline on
Speaker 2: the fire in that regard, and that's fine. Well it's
Speaker 2: not fine, but you know what I'm saying, Like fine
Speaker 2: to acknowledge that. But yeah, culturally societally, I mean, even
Speaker 2: as an adult, most of the adult friends that you
Speaker 2: like make now are other parents at your child's event,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, or coworkers that you happen
Speaker 2: to spend a lot of time with you. It's not
Speaker 2: like you have I don't know, man, I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people that have a lot of people in
Speaker 2: their life that they can depend on and call up
Speaker 2: if they need something, and they're blessed to have that. Like, genuinely,
Speaker 2: if you can count on both hands the number of
Speaker 2: people that would show up if you hit you know,
Speaker 2: called them right now, consider yourself fucking blessed because a
Speaker 2: lot of people do not have that luxury or that
Speaker 2: network anymore.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean that also goes to the social aspect
Speaker 6: though of.
Speaker 5: People and the mindset in which the society has created
Speaker 5: within America. I mean, we are very self driven. We're
Speaker 5: a very meani me iii right, and.
Speaker 6: There's no community left.
Speaker 5: And I would argue that it's been over the last
Speaker 5: fifty years realistically that it's been breaking down.
Speaker 1: Consertism took over.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, consumerism.
Speaker 5: Really, there's a lot of different aspects as Honestly, the
Speaker 5: fifties really hit America so hard. If you really trace
Speaker 5: everything back to all the programs that they implemented, all
Speaker 5: the testing on you name it, you pick your poison,
Speaker 5: and see really where things started to shift. It was
Speaker 5: like the forties they were prepping and then the fifties
Speaker 5: they implied their plan and they executed it very well,
Speaker 5: and like.
Speaker 6: They started to really erode what.
Speaker 5: It meant to be an American, but it meant to
Speaker 5: also be in communities and have at least some kind
Speaker 5: of network, and now we will really don't have like
Speaker 5: a network like you might you might make friends, but
Speaker 5: like there's not there's there's a level now of I
Speaker 5: would say, almost like a boundary level that we now
Speaker 5: have created, like of lack of trust within each other,
Speaker 5: lack of give fuck really like okay, sure you're going
Speaker 5: through that. Oh I'm sorry, you're so sorry. I'll send
Speaker 5: you some prayers, you know, little hand emojis, and like.
Speaker 6: That's about all.
Speaker 5: Like the people aren't showing up to help. Like back
Speaker 5: in the day, we'll say the nineteen twenty is, nineteen
Speaker 5: thirty is nineteen forties, say Bob down the street got
Speaker 5: in a terrible accident, the entire neighborhood, the entire street
Speaker 5: would bring Carol freaking cash, rolls and food and be like,
Speaker 5: what do you need from us? Now you can have
Speaker 5: your whole life crumbling and your next door neighbor will
Speaker 5: not know a single thing that's happening with you.
Speaker 1: And there's things to that too, right, Like that was
Speaker 1: during the Great Depression.
Speaker 2: People had to pull together otherwise everybody was starving. And
Speaker 2: then after World War Two, right the forties, everybody just
Speaker 2: went through this horrible thing, and so we're like rediscovering
Speaker 2: ourselves as a community. And like you're saying, the fifties
Speaker 2: was like pinnacle. But the problem with that is there's
Speaker 2: two sides to that coin. Although that was seen as
Speaker 2: quote unquote the American Golden Decade, everything was fucking great
Speaker 2: except for the Korean War. But like societally, you know,
Speaker 2: money being spent, annual household income kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Everything seemed like it was great.
Speaker 2: The problem is it primed it and was full leaning
Speaker 2: into the consumerist narrative. It was making it seem like
Speaker 2: the new and flashy thing. Look at what these people got.
Speaker 1: It was like that was the leashing up with the
Speaker 1: Joneses and the illusion exactly that.
Speaker 5: Really it was a full on illusion. I mean that's
Speaker 5: the thing, though, is you had TV pumping pumping and
Speaker 5: information to you. You're listening to the Nightly as well.
Speaker 5: On top of that, you're reading the news that's telling
Speaker 5: you what to think. You have propaganda being shoved down
Speaker 5: your throat, and they were testing different types of propaganda.
Speaker 6: On top of that. Not only that, you.
Speaker 5: Have all the different fucking mk ultra programs they were
Speaker 5: doing you have a bunch of stuff that they're doing.
Speaker 5: You have the FDA having no footing whatsoever. You have
Speaker 5: big farm sweeping in being like, oh, so, by the way,
Speaker 5: we're taking over all of these patents. We're making it
Speaker 5: to where holistic medicine is basically screw it. You just
Speaker 5: have no chance whatsoever. Also, FDA, you have no choice
Speaker 5: to do it our way. We're gonna pump all the
Speaker 5: drugs and chemicals to the farmers themselves and tell them
Speaker 5: they have no regulation, and like, you have no say
Speaker 5: so what happens.
Speaker 6: There is so many things that was happening. The school
Speaker 6: system changed, the history book started to change.
Speaker 5: That's when they actually like nineteen nineteen forty nine is
Speaker 5: when they switched the history books the first time. Nineteen
Speaker 5: fifty two is the second time they did it. Like
Speaker 5: they consistently purposely removed information, locked information, all the while
Speaker 5: showing you a shiny shit to buy over here while
Speaker 5: you're losing your entire family. You started eating eating TV trace,
Speaker 5: you started stopping cooking in the kitchen. You started you
Speaker 5: stop sitting down as a family, You start sitting in
Speaker 5: front of a TV. There is so many things that
Speaker 5: have led us to this point, and I mean it
Speaker 5: sounds like you're you're in a really good direction in
Speaker 5: what you would want to do. The problem is you're
Speaker 5: literally climbing Mount Everest with like one thousand pounds on
Speaker 5: your back. And so like, I'm I'm super all for it,
Speaker 5: trust me, because there's.
Speaker 6: So many things that need to change.
Speaker 5: It's just going to be one of those things of
Speaker 5: like I guess, focusing energy on certain aspects first and
Speaker 5: then hoping to gain more people and that hopefully with
Speaker 5: the community comes the voices of change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, fortunately I played sports and high school,
Speaker 3: so I'm used to lifting heavyweights, so I it.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yes, indeed, and so but go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it to kind of summarize all that
Speaker 3: when you see a massive change in a culture or society,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of driving factors. So it's usually a
Speaker 3: yes and situation. You know, it's everything that you guys
Speaker 3: have said and put into it.
Speaker 4: And I think that you know, it's a.
Speaker 3: You start pulling back the layers, you start seeing everything
Speaker 3: that they do, disconnecting you from your heritage, disconnecting you
Speaker 3: from history, disconnecting you from other people, plugging you into technology,
Speaker 3: it cultivates the society that we're living in now, and
Speaker 3: it can be difficult to break out. But I think,
Speaker 3: you know, step by step. You got to do it
Speaker 3: one step at a time, you know. So even if
Speaker 3: you were climbing Mount Everest with one thousand pounds on
Speaker 3: our back, we can't look at the top and think,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it's a huge climb. We have to
Speaker 3: just focus on the next step that we need to
Speaker 3: take in order to create to get to the peak
Speaker 3: of that mountaintop.
Speaker 1: I agree absolutely.
Speaker 2: So as far as your run that you're currently making
Speaker 2: in South Carolina, let's talk about that. Who is who
Speaker 2: is the incumbent? How are they looking right now? As
Speaker 2: far as the polls are concerned. We had you on
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago, but we are getting closer
Speaker 2: to like big shifts happening in big votes and all
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 1: So what is it currently looking like in your area?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the incumbent actually tried to run for governor. She
Speaker 3: didn't get it, so this is the open seat.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: The Democrats and Republicans have held their primaries. They're rather
Speaker 3: strong candidates. But right now I think that it's really
Speaker 3: about getting the messaging out and talking to people, getting
Speaker 3: on the ground, shaking hands, letting people know that there's
Speaker 3: another option, because you know, majority, well, first of all,
Speaker 3: I think an important statistic is that forty five percent
Speaker 3: of people identify.
Speaker 4: As being independent.
Speaker 3: You know, there's only twenty seven percent of Republican, twenty
Speaker 3: seven percent Democrat, and majority of people are independent and
Speaker 3: they feel that they have no words, no one speaking
Speaker 3: for them within the current political establishment, and so really
Speaker 3: it's about finding those people to get involved, to help
Speaker 3: with the campaign, to spread the message that they need
Speaker 3: to write in Clayton qu Terrrio on November three. Because
Speaker 3: so many people that I have talked to about it,
Speaker 3: it's always someone who doesn't know if they're registered, says
Speaker 3: that they've never been in politics, but they would definitely
Speaker 3: vote for me. Has seen it as a scam, but
Speaker 3: like they would definitely.
Speaker 4: Write my name in.
Speaker 3: They've never gone and voted, but now I'm motivating them
Speaker 3: to actually go and vote. So it's definitely a large
Speaker 3: educational piece on many fronts. But as I've been saying,
Speaker 3: you know, it's one step at a time, one podcast
Speaker 3: at a time, helping one person at a time, because
Speaker 3: we I think we tend to underestimate the power of
Speaker 3: the butterfly effect and how quickly things can spread. So
Speaker 3: this movement very much is a word of mouth movement,
Speaker 3: and it really is going to depend on everyone that
Speaker 3: I talk to, everyone listening to this podcast, if they're
Speaker 3: going to share this podcast, if they're going to tell
Speaker 3: people about the American Congress Party, if they're going to
Speaker 3: send my name, send my Instagram at Clay and Q Terry,
Speaker 3: if they're going to send it to people in South Carolina.
Speaker 3: Because you know, it's a giant mountain and a thousand
Speaker 3: pounds that I'm carrying on my back. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, we all need to do our party in
Speaker 3: carrying that to the top of the mountain. Because I'm
Speaker 3: just one person. I'm going to do everything in my power,
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, it's going to
Speaker 3: be up to the American people if this is a
Speaker 3: direction we want to.
Speaker 1: Go absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: Now, your party is relatively new as far as the
Speaker 2: American political spectrum is concerned, and you're not a one
Speaker 2: man show here. You as of now currently are the
Speaker 2: Secretary General of the American Congress Party, but there are
Speaker 2: other people involved with the party itself that are running
Speaker 2: for their own you know, Senate seeds, congressional seats, whatever
Speaker 2: the case would be. And right now pretty much y'all
Speaker 2: are looking for a foothold in the political space.
Speaker 1: Is any one else seeing some success or some promise
Speaker 1: in their areas that are representing the American Congress Party.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3: And that's the crazy thing too, is you're not going
Speaker 3: to hear about it with mainstream media, because I don't
Speaker 3: even really want to call it mainstream, but the corporate
Speaker 3: run media, they're not going to bring on my face,
Speaker 3: my name until they absolutely have to, until the views
Speaker 3: are like so enormous that they just cannot no longer
Speaker 3: ignore it. They're going to keep pumping Republican and Democrat
Speaker 3: in front of your face as long as they have to. So, yes,
Speaker 3: we've seen tremendous success. You know, I'm here in South Carolina.
Speaker 3: We have somebody running in North or sorry, New Hampshire.
Speaker 3: We have another person running for state legislator in Oregon.
Speaker 3: We have a few people who are thinking about it
Speaker 3: in San Diego. I have another person I'm talking to
Speaker 3: in Texas. And there's two more states I believe, Florida
Speaker 3: and Wyoming who are looking to get involved as well.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's crazy to even put all those names
Speaker 3: out there because I remember probably the first time I
Speaker 3: talked about this on your podcast, it was just me.
Speaker 1: I think it was in Pennsylvania, wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Yep, it was just me in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: You remember, good memory, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so you know, to see in two years
Speaker 3: that momentum is crazy to me because I mean it
Speaker 3: seems small, but like the way momentum works is that
Speaker 3: it will go it will go exponential very quickly. And
Speaker 3: so for myself, you know, I've only been making political
Speaker 3: content maybe two years now, two ish years now, consistently
Speaker 3: maybe a year and a half, and across all platforms,
Speaker 3: I'm at one point three million followers, and so we
Speaker 3: have other people in The person in New Hampshire has
Speaker 3: I think almost five hundred thousand followers across all platforms, probably.
Speaker 4: More now he's been going a little bit more viral.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so it's it's happening. It's just you kind of
Speaker 3: have to find it at this point. And hopefully if
Speaker 3: you have your phone up to this, you'll be tapped
Speaker 3: into the algorithm, so you know, maybe you'll see my
Speaker 3: face a little bit more now, but it's happening. It's
Speaker 3: definitely happening. I'm seeing the changes in real time and
Speaker 3: it's really as it really gives me hope for the
Speaker 3: future of America.
Speaker 2: No, I definitely think there's a lot of hope to
Speaker 2: be had here, man, Honestly so. And I've mentioned this before.
Speaker 2: A YouTuber gun Tuber specifically just ran in won District
Speaker 2: twenty three in Texas, Brandon Herrera right under the Republican.
Speaker 1: Banner.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, keep in mind he was
Speaker 2: being outspent by the incumbent ten to one. Now, the
Speaker 2: incumbent was a devout Rhino, Tony Gonzalez, And if you
Speaker 2: recognize the name, that's because he also had that whole
Speaker 2: situation with his secretary and then she burning herself alive
Speaker 2: when the whole affair was brought to life, it's a
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing.
Speaker 2: But before that even happened, Brandon was already slated to
Speaker 2: take it. He lost the last election the last cycle
Speaker 2: by like four one hundred and fifteen votes, like realistically,
Speaker 2: going against a long standing incumbent that outspent him ten
Speaker 2: to one. Here's the deal, though, Brandon has no political background,
Speaker 2: no legal background.
Speaker 1: He is a gun tuber.
Speaker 2: He has made his career off of firing machine guns
Speaker 2: on YouTube and making a lot of money from that
Speaker 2: and doing business moves and things. But he is so
Speaker 2: infuriated by what he's seeing within our political space he
Speaker 2: decided to throw hat in the ring. Now, when I'm
Speaker 2: getting to with this is the fact that we the
Speaker 2: American people, regardless of tax bracket, political ideations, race, gender,
Speaker 2: what we are all unanimously pretty tired of what we're
Speaker 2: seeing in DC. Okay, we are tired of seeing people
Speaker 2: who are For instance, was it Feinstein or yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it was Feinstein. She was like in a vegetative
Speaker 2: state for like a month before they removed her from
Speaker 2: the office. Somebody was voting on her behalf even though
Speaker 2: she was not cognizant enough to hold the job. Joe
Speaker 2: Biden was not actually mentally there. First of all, we
Speaker 2: believe that was a clone. But like whatever, My point
Speaker 2: is that guy was not the guy leading the country
Speaker 2: for so long. And there's Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, take
Speaker 2: your pick of all these people who are so old,
Speaker 2: and it's not even that they're old. Their way of
Speaker 2: thinking is so antiquated. Right listening to and for instance,
Speaker 2: John Kennedy and he's from Louisiana and I love him
Speaker 2: for so many reasons, but also listening to him, questioned Zuckerberg.
Speaker 1: So when the WiFi is owned, can can the Facebook
Speaker 1: see me? It's like, I'm sorry, what are you talking
Speaker 1: about now?
Speaker 2: It's like, these are the people that are passing the
Speaker 2: laws that we have to abide by, and most citizens
Speaker 2: do not feel well represented by the current.
Speaker 1: People sitting in those seats.
Speaker 2: So so many people, whether they're content creators, whether they
Speaker 2: are business owners or something in the middle of that,
Speaker 2: who cares, They are actually starting to get a foothold.
Speaker 2: It's like the next generation of politician and I use
Speaker 2: that disgusting word. I use that very loosely, but representatives
Speaker 2: of the people. It's a weird transitional phase we're watching
Speaker 2: where people are standing up to take the position to
Speaker 2: represent the people, not just somebody who's been groomed for
Speaker 2: third generation Ivy League, Secret Society member, through and through,
Speaker 2: who got all You see what I'm saying here. We
Speaker 2: are in a position and of change. We are in
Speaker 2: an era of transition, and I think that along with
Speaker 2: your party and your platform and others that we do
Speaker 2: in fact have some hope, but it's going to take
Speaker 2: voters actually hitting the voting booth to make that change happen.
Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, I think there's a lot of people
Speaker 3: who are disenfranchised. Yeah, you know, they don't feel like
Speaker 3: they have a voice, they don't feel like they're heard.
Speaker 3: And I think that the establishment, both Democrat and Republican,
Speaker 3: are on by and large, pandering to the boomer generation
Speaker 3: because I think that a lot of the things that
Speaker 3: it got them elected. That are the people who are
Speaker 3: watching Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, and they're very motivated voters.
Speaker 3: They still kind of believe in that old system, if
Speaker 3: you will, the system where And it really hit me
Speaker 3: whenever Trump said that he didn't want to bring home
Speaker 3: prices down. He wanted to see home prices go up,
Speaker 3: and he was very proud that home prices were going up.
Speaker 3: And it struck me as odd initially, but then I
Speaker 3: realized that he's really yeah, and he doesn't really but
Speaker 3: he doesn't really care about like Gen Z or millennials
Speaker 3: who are struggling to buy homes. He cares about the
Speaker 3: boomers who he is able to increase their home value
Speaker 3: and convince them that it was a good choice to
Speaker 3: vote for him. And I think that that's where we're
Speaker 3: starting to see this shift with people like Mom Donnie.
Speaker 3: I think Abdul l Seed, if I'm pronouncing that right,
Speaker 3: just won his congressional district or his senates in Michigan.
Speaker 4: I believe if I get that right.
Speaker 3: So I think you're starting to see that I am
Speaker 3: a little bit apprehensive to people with the D or
Speaker 3: the R next to their name. I want to see
Speaker 3: people with more ACP next to their name, and I'll
Speaker 3: be more in on them. But again, they're running on
Speaker 3: these similar ideas that have been put out there that
Speaker 3: I'm espousing. Again, I don't know all their platforms, sure,
Speaker 3: but you know, by and large, you know you're seeing
Speaker 3: this next generation of new people, fresh faces, and I
Speaker 3: think that that's.
Speaker 4: Very good for the people. Right.
Speaker 3: Whether or not you agree with their beliefs and all
Speaker 3: their positions, that's fine. We can debate those. But I
Speaker 3: think that it's very empowering for a nation to be
Speaker 3: represented by younger demographic who maybe get technology, who understand
Speaker 3: this new era that we are starting to live in.
Speaker 2: No I would agree with that I'm not going to
Speaker 2: sign with Mom Donnie on literally anything. But to your
Speaker 2: point about a fresh face, a newer generation entering the conversation,
Speaker 2: I would agree with that, But I mean, to your point,
Speaker 2: Trump said he wanted the house prices to go up
Speaker 2: because he's a real estate guy.
Speaker 1: That's how he's made his money. And then I forget
Speaker 1: what the other politician was. This dude was giving an interview.
Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, so let's say, you know your average American,
Speaker 2: you know, making some investments. They got fifteen doors under
Speaker 2: their name and so blah blah blah. I'm like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: what average American do you know that owns fifteen properties?
Speaker 2: Like that's not an average American thing. Like they are
Speaker 2: so out of touch with reality, it's it's scary. But yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: But so that's a.
Speaker 4: Lot part of the agenda.
Speaker 3: Another part of the agenda is getting large corporations out
Speaker 3: of single family homes.
Speaker 4: We should be giving loans.
Speaker 3: I think we should be giving zero percent interest loans
Speaker 3: to first time home buyers as well, so that we
Speaker 3: can get more people housed. And we should actually just
Speaker 3: be building you know, buildings, you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: federal property is used, and they have buildings that are
Speaker 3: not being used at all. We should be conserverting those
Speaker 3: into houses so that we can indeed house our homeless population.
Speaker 3: Of course, there's medical issues there, there's drug use, and
Speaker 3: we need to clean that up. But there's so many
Speaker 3: people who are of able mind, body and spirit that
Speaker 3: just have been down on their luck and can't get homes. So,
Speaker 3: you know, I think that is a beautiful and be
Speaker 3: a very high purpose drive that we should aim for
Speaker 3: as a society as well.
Speaker 1: I would agree. In your area, what does the homeless
Speaker 1: problem look like?
Speaker 2: Cause, I mean, like, depending on where you're talking about,
Speaker 2: like La, for instance, most of the homeless people there
Speaker 2: want to be homeless, and they're very loud and proud
Speaker 2: about that. Right, Like to your point, there's absolutely people
Speaker 2: that have been dealt bad hand after bad hand after
Speaker 2: bad hand that really do need help. Okay that these
Speaker 2: people are out there, I'm not denying that, but there's
Speaker 2: also the ones that just want to be able to
Speaker 2: sleep on our bridge and do their drugs. And like
Speaker 2: you're right, there's things that need to be done as
Speaker 2: far as that's concerned. But in your area specifically, do
Speaker 2: y'all have much of a homeless problem. Is it just
Speaker 2: kind of a thing but maybe not the biggest thing,
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4: There might be low double digit homeless people here.
Speaker 3: I mean you walk down the street, you might see
Speaker 3: a handful, but like if you walk down like the
Speaker 3: main street, King Street of Charleston, yeah you might see
Speaker 3: a handful, but it's really not not a lot of people.
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure what that's by and large because
Speaker 3: of so it's definitely not a topic that my constituents
Speaker 3: really are going to care too much about.
Speaker 4: But I just see that as you know, the end
Speaker 4: goal of all of this.
Speaker 3: I'm getting my thoughts on record here because the angle
Speaker 3: of all of this is President.
Speaker 4: Of the United States.
Speaker 3: So I'm just kind of you know, we got two
Speaker 3: hours here, so I'm giving you, I'm giving you all
Speaker 3: the touch points of what we'll be doing in the
Speaker 3: future for the federal at the federal level.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so, if elected, what are some of the what's
Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for? The commissions?
Speaker 2: Are the teams that you specifically would like to like
Speaker 2: really get to be a part of energy. I'm assuming education,
Speaker 2: I'm assuming would be one of those committees that you
Speaker 2: would be like all about trying to get in on
Speaker 2: at some level. Are there are any other committees that
Speaker 2: you're really passionate about within the realm of DC.
Speaker 3: Well, if I get on the Education Committee, I might
Speaker 3: need to bring Raven with me as as an advisor.
Speaker 1: I think that would be probably one of the best movies.
Speaker 6: I'll end up prussing somebody out, so I don't know
Speaker 6: about that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's fine. Politicians are horrible to each other
Speaker 1: when the camera's aren't rolling. I'll let that fool you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes they're buddyuddy, You never know.
Speaker 5: I got a bone to pick with a good old
Speaker 5: aoc yo. I would I would pay money and just
Speaker 5: to just to fight it out with her.
Speaker 1: I have to take home, just to like be the
Speaker 1: bouncer between you and all the God damn it, that's
Speaker 1: now we can't.
Speaker 5: It's actually her disrespecting Ben Carson. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, there,
Speaker 5: Oh she she e went after him. This was like
Speaker 5: a year ago, two years ago, they didn't they So
Speaker 5: she's interviewed him a few times and he like politely
Speaker 5: put her in her place multiple times, but she said
Speaker 5: some nasty shit and I was like, you know, I
Speaker 5: don't like you for so many reasons, but I would
Speaker 5: like pay money just to be able to get my
Speaker 5: hands on her. You, because man, oh man, I like,
Speaker 5: I really can't stand her or her political views or
Speaker 5: the lie that she continuously spouts to people, and the
Speaker 5: younger generation eats it up and thinks that that's just
Speaker 5: like acceptable. Instead of doing any form of research at
Speaker 5: all on their own to try to find any kind
Speaker 5: of evidence to support her claims, they just immediately take
Speaker 5: it and run with it. And it's like, no, you're
Speaker 5: like blatantly lying and have them shown to lie over
Speaker 5: and over again. I mean, that's not it's not just
Speaker 5: inherently her, it's all the politicians, it's all of government.
Speaker 5: But she just she really frosts my cookies and not
Speaker 5: gonna lie between.
Speaker 1: Her and Omar Jesus, both of them are just it's
Speaker 1: the pod right there. Bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not to call out any politicians in general, but
Speaker 3: I think by and large, we need a more educated
Speaker 3: political We need more educated politicians representing us because I
Speaker 3: know that it is a very difficult job. I know
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things you need to manage, but
Speaker 3: you need to be able to manage them. It's not like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just going to be a face and
Speaker 3: a name. At the end of the day, the responsibility
Speaker 3: lies at your door. People look up to you. So
Speaker 3: being well educated is certainly important. And I know it
Speaker 3: kind of stumbled to hear a couple a couple of
Speaker 3: names and numbers, but that's also why I try to
Speaker 3: preface it with, like, hold on, let's let's verify those,
Speaker 3: because I think becoming educated again free education.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so look, I did look up Ethiopia actually has changed.
Speaker 5: So for those that are going to correct me, I
Speaker 5: will say that Ethiopia has now worse mortality rates than
Speaker 5: we do, but we're like super far behind Norway. So
Speaker 5: I correct myself and I and also, the books didn't
Speaker 5: change in nineteen forty nine.
Speaker 6: They changed in nineteen fifty one. Excuse me.
Speaker 5: I'm a stickler for making sure I like actually look
Speaker 5: up statistics and different things because I'm like, I don't
Speaker 5: want to misspeak. And then people take it as like
Speaker 5: gospel truth or like, well did you hear it?
Speaker 6: And then it's you know that it's incorrect right.
Speaker 1: Here, spreading misinformation ravenly.
Speaker 5: I know, I know I'm over I saw that, and
Speaker 5: I was like, damn it, like because when I when I,
Speaker 5: it was that Ethiopia was like excelling before us. But
Speaker 5: now they've shifted and then certain aspects of why they're
Speaker 5: not doing as well as us, But they're not super
Speaker 5: far behind, like the numbers are not, Like we're not
Speaker 5: talking about a massive gap in between mortality rates. We're
Speaker 5: talking about like a small gap, like a little little
Speaker 5: bit baby gap, considering we spend so much money in
Speaker 5: that aspect. But when it comes to education and politics
Speaker 5: and all of those things, I have no desire to
Speaker 5: be in the political field whatsoever. Like I would love
Speaker 5: to do change, I would love to I've I've definitely
Speaker 5: gone up to our state building multiple times in protests
Speaker 5: of certain things that were like really drove me to
Speaker 5: do those things. But when it comes to I don't
Speaker 5: want people, I don't want to be a face of
Speaker 5: something like I just don't.
Speaker 6: I would rather make it on the local change local levels.
Speaker 2: But to the education of it, it also bothers me
Speaker 2: how Manymericans don't know much about first of all, just
Speaker 2: the status that we are currently in right or not
Speaker 2: even talking about what's going on in DC and which
Speaker 2: congressman said, what like, okay, fine, because half of that's
Speaker 2: more like a political gossip rather than you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. People make that their whole personality, like some
Speaker 2: dudes will make like sports, for instance, their whole personality.
Speaker 2: They couldn't tell you anything about, you know, how our
Speaker 2: country is being ramped, but they can tell you every
Speaker 2: stat of every player of every sport, ever kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: What kills me is that Americans that are voting, most
Speaker 2: of them, cannot tell you what the difference.
Speaker 1: Is between like, for instance, the Constitution and.
Speaker 2: The Bill of Rights, and they for some reason they
Speaker 2: have no idea what like they may know the term
Speaker 2: Declaration of Independence, but they may not understand why the
Speaker 2: Bill of Rights is so important to us and what
Speaker 2: that does for us, what the amendments to the it's
Speaker 2: it blows my mind that so many people have so
Speaker 2: many hard opinions on these things when they have actually
Speaker 2: and that is an education available to us. You can
Speaker 2: you could google these things right now, like nothing is
Speaker 2: stopping you. As a matter of fact, I would highly
Speaker 2: recommend everybody listening just peruse it, just quickly breeze over it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's things you've heard before, but It's crazy
Speaker 2: how so many people don't understand how our political system works,
Speaker 2: how our governing bodies, the ones making the laws that
Speaker 2: you have to follow. Many many people in the United
Speaker 2: States have no clue how that works.
Speaker 1: It's it's mind top.
Speaker 5: By design, like that though you're talking about you start
Speaker 5: to learn it in like third grade, yeah, and you
Speaker 5: learn it through.
Speaker 6: Like maybe sixth grade, and then like that's about it.
Speaker 1: School house and rock all day.
Speaker 5: Like that's about like all you're really going to talk
Speaker 5: about unless you take like American history and then you'll
Speaker 5: you know, rediscover it and stuff. But for the most part,
Speaker 5: it's not some kind of common knowledge we all use.
Speaker 5: So a lot of people just kind of forget about
Speaker 5: it and don't really pay much mind to it.
Speaker 6: But the problem is is that what really is interesting
Speaker 6: to me is how they.
Speaker 5: Write these life or the things that we're voting on,
Speaker 5: and they hide stuff inside of it, like clauses at
Speaker 5: the very end of it. They have like a subdenum
Speaker 5: and like all these things and most of us don't
Speaker 5: have you know, law background. We're not gonna we're not
Speaker 5: gonna like break everything and be like what does that say?
Speaker 6: Like what does that mean?
Speaker 5: The problem is is sure you might find out what
Speaker 5: it means, but by the time you find it out
Speaker 5: what it means or whatever, you try to tell ten people,
Speaker 5: twenty people, thirty people, you're trying to shout it from
Speaker 5: the rooftops. Most people are just gonna click a button
Speaker 5: or they're not gonna vote at all.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: Yes, that was with the energy bill here. That was
Speaker 5: with this whole situation that it happened here. You you
Speaker 5: want to talk about me, get real upset. I actually
Speaker 5: read into like what these things were they were trying
Speaker 5: to do, and it took me so long. I even
Speaker 5: went to the state's website. I had to go over
Speaker 5: to the Capitol building to get them to give me
Speaker 5: the actual hard copy to figure out what the hell
Speaker 5: it was about, because it was all twisted up in language,
Speaker 5: and it took me days.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I'm not like, I am not that smart to
Speaker 6: break it down.
Speaker 5: It took me days of breaking it down to realize
Speaker 5: that basically, to sum it all up, all the big
Speaker 5: groups down here that own all the plants were like, hey,
Speaker 5: so here's our money, and we're gonna just make you
Speaker 5: You're just gonna make this go away quietly and we're
Speaker 5: gonna be able to pump the chemicals out into the
Speaker 5: environment and you're just not gonna say anything about it.
Speaker 5: That's really what it boiled down to, right, And when
Speaker 5: I tried to tell people about it, I was I
Speaker 5: was posting it on Facebook.
Speaker 6: I made like little signs.
Speaker 5: I was like trying to tell everyone in the neighborhood,
Speaker 5: and people were just like I don't really understand, Like what,
Speaker 5: how do you know that? And I'm like, look at
Speaker 5: the language, Like here's the language I had. I had
Speaker 5: to actually like break it all down, but you know,
Speaker 5: it passed and they got away with it.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's about who spent more for like the search engine
Speaker 2: optimization on their website explaining it.
Speaker 1: In their way. Right, Let's say you know this election
Speaker 1: this weekend, vote no on Bill four thirty five, or
Speaker 1: like whatever the case, and then you, as somebody who
Speaker 1: doesn't know much, you google it what is Bill four
Speaker 1: thirty five? Just to see what comes up?
Speaker 2: The first ten pages that you see are all paid
Speaker 2: for by a political side, and they're not going to
Speaker 2: tell you which one.
Speaker 1: Obviously.
Speaker 2: You're just clicking to learn more about this thing that
Speaker 2: you just heard about. Next thing, you know, you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this sounds horrible. No, I'm definitely voting
Speaker 2: no to this.
Speaker 1: After the fact, they'd come out with like, oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, you just voted yes to bop bop bop
Speaker 1: bop bop pop pop. And it's like, well, that's not
Speaker 1: what the website showed me. It's because that political party
Speaker 1: paid to have that one promoted more to show a
Speaker 1: certain area.
Speaker 6: It was so confusing.
Speaker 5: I actually went to the websites where you're supposed to
Speaker 5: be able to the voter, the voter websites that.
Speaker 6: Are supposed to break it down and explain it to
Speaker 6: you and like tell you what you're.
Speaker 5: Supposed to do, or like it actually has a section
Speaker 5: of like tell me what to do, and it's crazy and.
Speaker 6: None of it made any sense.
Speaker 5: And when I went there, the lady was looking at
Speaker 5: me like I was nuts, And I was like, I know,
Speaker 5: you have a hard copy because there's a lot of
Speaker 5: states that have meil ods, so you have.
Speaker 6: To have a hard copy. So she gave me a
Speaker 6: hard copy.
Speaker 5: Once I actually read the bill, like actually there presented,
Speaker 5: then I had to break it down. But I mean,
Speaker 5: that's just because I'm super passionate about the environment, but
Speaker 5: most people are not going to spend the time to
Speaker 5: go in and do that, because I mean, one who
Speaker 5: has the time to be honest with you, Two who
Speaker 5: really is going to sit there and research and then
Speaker 5: try to figure out what the hell is is about?
Speaker 5: And three most people don't have allowed enough voice to
Speaker 5: make a damn because at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: most people are just like I just want to go
Speaker 5: about my business and I don't really give a shit
Speaker 5: what's happening unless it truly impacts me, like the Peace
Speaker 5: Act in Oregon right now, Yes, that truly impacts people.
Speaker 5: And I have been non stop talking about it for
Speaker 5: months now because I am really angry about this bill.
Speaker 5: But they had presented it on so many If you
Speaker 5: were to google it right now, it basically is like
Speaker 5: it's fine, Like it's super good for us in the environment,
Speaker 5: Like it's not a big deal. You actually have to
Speaker 5: look for the opposing side, which is a Democrat and
Speaker 5: a Republican that have ganged up on opposing it because
Speaker 5: it's that bad for the Oregonians and it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Clayton, have you heard of this the Peace Act that
Speaker 2: they're trying to push an organ my god, oh brother,
Speaker 2: oh brother.
Speaker 5: I won't spend time harping on it because the Poorcole
Speaker 5: members have heard me break this down soven times because
Speaker 5: I feel some type of way essentially they are so
Speaker 5: this has been happening for years now. They've been trying
Speaker 5: to pass this stupid bill. They somehow managed to get
Speaker 5: their one hundred thousand plus signatures and now it's going
Speaker 5: on the November ballot. And basically what it does is
Speaker 5: that you can't do any hunting of any kind on
Speaker 5: your land, on any other land if you have animals.
Speaker 5: Say I have a dairy farm, right or I have
Speaker 5: a cow form and I breed my animals, you no
Speaker 5: longer can breed your animals because it's a sexual act
Speaker 5: and it goes against their their will.
Speaker 6: You can't. There's the list is huge of what you
Speaker 6: can't do.
Speaker 5: Even conservationists, even people that study so even our science departments,
Speaker 5: which we have a lot of, they are not gonna
Speaker 5: be able to go out and kill anything or capture
Speaker 5: anything to.
Speaker 6: Observe it, to study it, to whatever dot dot dot pest.
Speaker 6: Fuck them.
Speaker 5: They're just gonna run wild like that. There's so many
Speaker 5: things parts to this and basically essentially Oregonians will have
Speaker 5: to pay a huge amount of fee to import any
Speaker 5: type of meat products or eggs or milk or dairy
Speaker 5: dot dot dot into organ if this passes, and like
Speaker 5: the pest control population, they're just gonna it's gonna take over.
Speaker 5: Like there's no gonna, there's the deer. There's gonna be
Speaker 5: no limits. And you can't kill anything. You can't, you
Speaker 5: can't breed anything. You can't do anything with animals in
Speaker 5: any way, shape, form, fish, whatever. Our salmon population that
Speaker 5: we hold very deer pretty much screw them because what
Speaker 5: we do in school is we actually have tanks where
Speaker 5: we raise them to take to the font to take
Speaker 5: over to them to be able to release in a
Speaker 5: certain area.
Speaker 6: That will help actually keep our population up.
Speaker 1: None of that.
Speaker 6: Nope, you can't.
Speaker 5: You can't in sympony anything like it's a it's a
Speaker 5: The bill itself is really insidious. But they've changed language
Speaker 5: because they learned from the past three times that they've
Speaker 5: tried to get it on that the language was too
Speaker 5: much and people realize, well, this isn't right, this isn't good,
Speaker 5: So they've changed language to make it super fluffy and
Speaker 5: happy of like you're just trying to protect the environment.
Speaker 5: I actually almost got into a fistfight at Renfest over this, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 6: It was the whole thing. This guy was lying to people,
Speaker 6: and I was like, nope, not today.
Speaker 1: But they've even changed it. It's called the Peace Act. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who doesn't want peace?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's mind blowing.
Speaker 3: Well, I might give you an interesting, I guess perspective
Speaker 3: on this because I myself am vegan, so I basically
Speaker 3: don't need any animal products. But what I don't think
Speaker 3: you can do is force people to do things I
Speaker 3: think in ideal world, like here's the interesting things. Like
Speaker 3: in an ideal world, I think that would be great.
Speaker 3: Like I believe in that ethos of that bill, based
Speaker 3: on how you presented it, I believe.
Speaker 4: In that ethos.
Speaker 3: But simultaneously, I don't believe that you can force people
Speaker 3: to do something like that, especially something that drastic that much.
Speaker 3: That would disturb, you know, the industries that are going
Speaker 3: on in Oregon. So, like my fundamental belief is like
Speaker 3: it's a good thing to aspire for, but I don't
Speaker 3: think that you can force that as like a top
Speaker 3: down level because when you force people to do stuff,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a You're gonna have a backlash no
Speaker 3: matter what goes down. So you know, you're gonna uproot
Speaker 3: so many people's ways of life that it would probably
Speaker 3: be more jarring and harmful in the long run than
Speaker 3: it would be for maybe that being an actual outcome.
Speaker 4: In the United States, I agree, I just.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how they could think that that's a
Speaker 1: good idea.
Speaker 2: Like you're saying the industries that are there, it's not
Speaker 2: like this is a state that does not rely specifically
Speaker 2: on its meat industry, specifically fish and dairy, like this
Speaker 2: is this is huge for the state of Oregon and
Speaker 2: for the powers that be to try to be like,
Speaker 2: you know what, what if we just like didn't like it,
Speaker 2: with no way of stepping that down, with no way.
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing.
Speaker 2: But then also, like we're talking about the price to
Speaker 2: import these things. I got a buddy of mine that
Speaker 2: lives in the Virgin Islands. It's like thirteen dollars for
Speaker 2: a gallon of milk, Like it's something absurd because everything
Speaker 2: has to be shipped in. Now, granted VII is a
Speaker 2: little different than from Washington, to Oregon. But like it's
Speaker 2: it's it's a mind blowing concept. Honestly, I didn't realize
Speaker 2: you were vegan though. How long have you been vegan?
Speaker 3: Probably officially maybe ten months. I was doing dairy as
Speaker 3: well for two and a half years, but then in
Speaker 3: the last ten months I got an ex dairy out
Speaker 3: and just went full vegan.
Speaker 1: Really yeaheez. Ok I did not know that.
Speaker 4: I rely recommend it for spiritual purposes.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so you believe like nothing of well, I
Speaker 2: guess okay, on the spiritual side of the non We're
Speaker 2: gonna have to talk a later time.
Speaker 1: I don't want to take.
Speaker 2: Away from the from the politics here and like the
Speaker 2: whole reason for you being on the show, but about like, okay,
Speaker 2: animals are living beings and you believe that aside from
Speaker 2: the health benefits, because I've heard a lot of things
Speaker 2: about help, you know, veganism being good for your health,
Speaker 2: for other you know, bodily reasons. For the spiritual reasons,
Speaker 2: animals living entities, you feel it is wrong to kill
Speaker 2: them and eat them? Okay, gotcham are plants also not
Speaker 2: living entities and beings? And if which if that's the case,
Speaker 2: why is it okay to eat this living entity rather
Speaker 2: than that living entity. I'm just curious what your take
Speaker 2: would be on that. But I also don't want to
Speaker 2: take away from you, know what I mean, what we're talking.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, look, I mean we can talk about it
Speaker 4: because we eat.
Speaker 3: We just talked about education, so I feel that this
Speaker 3: is kind of a part of the education that we
Speaker 3: need to bestow on people. If you break everything down,
Speaker 3: you know, we have this concept in the United States
Speaker 3: of inanimate objects. But if you look at everything from
Speaker 3: an atomic level, everything's moving. Everything's made up of atoms, neutrons, protons, electrons,
Speaker 3: and in order for anything to exist, it has to
Speaker 3: be made up of those things. The air, this table,
Speaker 3: our bodies, our phones, animals, plants, all of it. Right,
Speaker 3: So fundamentally, I believe that everything is in essence living
Speaker 3: where it comes down to animal versus plants, There's a
Speaker 3: couple things here.
Speaker 4: I would say. You can look at it scientifically, where.
Speaker 3: Like we talked about earlier, what you put into your
Speaker 3: body over the course of seven years, you will eventually
Speaker 3: like that your DNA turns over every selling, your body
Speaker 3: turns over every seven years. So when you're ingesting different food, water,
Speaker 3: whatever it is, your body will start to become more
Speaker 3: like those items. There's an issue with animals where a
Speaker 3: couple things. Number One, the vibration that they go through right,
Speaker 3: whether it is you know, because they have the sixth
Speaker 3: sense where they're tapped in to what's going on, so
Speaker 3: before they are killed, they know that they're about to
Speaker 3: be killed. It activates a bunch of hormones, stress hormones,
Speaker 3: panic hormones. And so then whenever you ingest, whether it's
Speaker 3: the meat the fish, you'll take those hormones into your body,
Speaker 3: and so it will make you more stressed, it'll make
Speaker 3: you more anxious. And this was just a theory of mine,
Speaker 3: but now that I've gone through it, this is what
Speaker 3: I'm starting to believe. And I think I ran it
Speaker 3: to someone who said that there's been scientific studies that
Speaker 3: have shown this, and so that's a part of it.
Speaker 3: And then to the question of like why plants, Well,
Speaker 3: you see, with animals there will be usually be some
Speaker 3: sort of disease there, whether it's a heart disease, maybe
Speaker 3: they have cancer. It's not possible for us to know
Speaker 3: just by looking at the meat. Eventually meat will spoil, right,
Speaker 3: and it'll go bad. But just by looking at like
Speaker 3: a red meat, which now they're starting to synthetically die
Speaker 3: to look even better. Yeah, yeah, they'll make it look
Speaker 3: better the fish. They do it with tuna, salmon's not
Speaker 3: even the real color of salmon. All of this stuff
Speaker 3: to make it look more appetizing. So those diseases will
Speaker 3: be there. But when it comes to potatoes or onions,
Speaker 3: or peppers or jalapenos, you know, when those go bad,
Speaker 3: you can see physical changes that happen. They'll get mushy,
Speaker 3: they'll get soggy, they'll start sprouting, there'll be so you'll
Speaker 3: see the disease on the item before you're consuming it.
Speaker 3: And so I think personally that this is a reason
Speaker 3: that are also longevity, why our age is starting to
Speaker 3: decrease and we've lived longer in the past. I know
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people who claim that we're actually
Speaker 3: living longer now, but if you take out you know,
Speaker 3: infant mortality, people actually lived longer throughout history than we
Speaker 3: do now, and so I think that all of that
Speaker 3: kind of contributes to it. So again that's my personal
Speaker 3: journey where I've gotten to and what I would encourage
Speaker 3: everyone to at least try for themselves for a month
Speaker 3: or two and see how they feel afterwards. Again, you
Speaker 3: need to get in, you know, protein, whether it's tofu beans.
Speaker 4: I think there's a huge.
Speaker 3: Push as well to convince us to eat more protein
Speaker 3: than we actually need. You know, I've been doing this
Speaker 3: two and a half years. I weigh two hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty five pounds. I go to the gym every day.
Speaker 3: You know, I lift a good amount, so you know,
Speaker 3: I'm cognitively there. And I've seen bodybuilders as well who
Speaker 3: are completely plant based, and so you know again, I
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think to separate this right like,
Speaker 3: politically speaking, I don't believe we should force anyone to
Speaker 3: do this stuff, but I do encourage people from a
Speaker 3: place of education at least give it a shot for themselves.
Speaker 2: So now to circle back to something more political, but
Speaker 2: still in this same realm and vibe. So first off,
Speaker 2: with the meat conversation, I absolutely agree, even as a
Speaker 2: meat eater ethically killing an animal versus whatever the hell
Speaker 2: are doing in the mass production side of butchers and
Speaker 2: all of these things, it's two different conversations. A deer,
Speaker 2: for instance, that you kill while hunting, and this is
Speaker 2: just broadly speaking, here, if you drop it on the
Speaker 2: first shot, the meat is going to taste a whole
Speaker 2: lot better than if it had to run for fifty
Speaker 2: yards you had to track it down. It was super
Speaker 2: adrenalized and all that. The meat is going to be
Speaker 2: gamey as fuck.
Speaker 1: It's the two.
Speaker 2: It's not even a comparison, to be honest. The same
Speaker 2: can be said for chicken, for col for fish. So
Speaker 2: like to your point, I absolutely would agree that the
Speaker 2: way it's done has a lot to do with the quality,
Speaker 2: and I would also argue the nutrients within the product.
Speaker 2: But as far as the vegetables are concerned, we have
Speaker 2: talked about the seed wars that are going on right
Speaker 2: now within the United States and how airloom seeds are
Speaker 2: so important, and how GMOs have dominated everything, and how
Speaker 2: the pesticide chemical companies actually do own most of our
Speaker 2: food manufacturing, if not in some sort of cahoots way,
Speaker 2: sometimes even directly. That being said, some GMOs, some would argue,
Speaker 2: have been done very positively right. It helps a plant
Speaker 2: grow in an environment where it typically would not grow
Speaker 2: in areas with less water. You're able to engineer some
Speaker 2: things in this corn that would have never grown in
Speaker 2: this environment on its own now is able to thrive
Speaker 2: in this environment. Things like this and the corn is
Speaker 2: an example, but there's also examples for peppers, for cucumbers,
Speaker 2: for whatever.
Speaker 1: GMOs.
Speaker 2: Some of them very good, some of them obviously very bad.
Speaker 2: Are you being a vegan in this regard. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you're very anti GMO with a broad brushstroke, But when
Speaker 2: it comes to GMOs that have been done to help
Speaker 2: vegetables and fruits grow in environments that they're not native,
Speaker 2: what is your take on this?
Speaker 4: Yes, for starters, I'm not perfect.
Speaker 3: I do eat, you know, like a cake every now
Speaker 3: and then consuming it's vegan like, I'm not perfect by
Speaker 3: any means. Personally, I do my best to get everything
Speaker 3: from the farmer's market, which I know is difficult because
Speaker 3: it is more expensive. And then when you're looking at,
Speaker 3: you know, the chemical alteration of food, it's a tricky one.
Speaker 3: My instinct is that if it's not supposed to be
Speaker 3: growing there, then it's likely not something to eat. And
Speaker 3: I say this because I so I've been in the
Speaker 3: far you know, I've gone to farmers markets now the
Speaker 3: last year and a half, and there will be cycles
Speaker 3: of what's available. They'll usually always have potatoes, but there's
Speaker 3: like a season for bell peppers, there's a season for cucumbers,
Speaker 3: there's a season for different spices.
Speaker 4: There's a season for strawberries, for blueberries.
Speaker 3: And where I've kind of come to think, and maybe
Speaker 3: it's compensating at some sort, but where I'm kind of
Speaker 3: at with my belief is that if I'm living in
Speaker 3: a certain environment and the environment around me, the air
Speaker 3: around me, the sun around me, is inconducive for certain
Speaker 3: food to grow, then I probably shouldn't be eating that
Speaker 3: food out of season, if you will.
Speaker 4: Okay, now, again this is maybe a.
Speaker 3: Little bit out there. Maybe I'm you know, whatever you
Speaker 3: want to call it, but I feel that if the
Speaker 3: environment can't cultivate it, then putting into my body would
Speaker 3: somehow put me out of harmony with the nature that
Speaker 3: I'm surrounded by. So that's just my beliefs big picture,
Speaker 3: you know. Again, I think it goes back to allowing freedom.
Speaker 3: If people want to, they can do it. But we
Speaker 3: should have some sort of labeling so people know that
Speaker 3: this was grown in a place that is not normally
Speaker 3: suitable for these fruits and vegetables. You know, we should
Speaker 3: have labels. If we are finding out that Bill Gates
Speaker 3: is putting plastic on our avocados and in our lettuce,
Speaker 3: if we're putting vaccines in lettuce. You know, if people
Speaker 3: really want to do that, they should have the freedom
Speaker 3: to do that. At the same time, people who do
Speaker 3: not want to do that should have the freedom to
Speaker 3: find healthy alternatives at the same price.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of where I stay on it. And
Speaker 3: there should be indiscriminate labeling. You should know exactly what
Speaker 3: you're getting, where it was grown, the conditions, if it's
Speaker 3: modified at all, because I know FDA is captured and
Speaker 3: what they allow to say genetically modified.
Speaker 2: Or of the label game that they played, Oh what's
Speaker 2: free range quote unquote by the like the very loose
Speaker 2: translations of what fits into the box quote unquote, it's man,
Speaker 2: it is mind blowing.
Speaker 3: Well, and so a lot of that needs worked out.
Speaker 3: And so I think a lot of people even think
Speaker 3: that they're doing the healthy option when in reality it
Speaker 3: might only be very slightly different from the poisoned version
Speaker 3: of it. And so, you know, again I believe in
Speaker 3: freedom broadly speaking. If that's what you if you want
Speaker 3: to get your vaccines from lettuce by all means, but
Speaker 3: there better be a big warning label on top of it, like, hey,
Speaker 3: there's X amount of this in this lettuce.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I don't know if Raven, do you have a question,
Speaker 1: because I was going to kind of shift gears but
Speaker 1: still keeping to the political conversation.
Speaker 6: No, I mean, I you know, I'm just kind of listening.
Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I would in regards to
Speaker 5: the Peace Act, like I do agree in the sense
Speaker 5: of making things more stricter when it comes to how
Speaker 5: we are treating animals and animal processing facilities.
Speaker 6: I also think that the uh the methods in which
Speaker 6: they are.
Speaker 5: Cleaning them and how they are also killing them, and
Speaker 5: how they're packaging them and those things, and also having
Speaker 5: firm strict regulations on how much antibiotics are being allowed
Speaker 5: into these things, and also the level and condition of
Speaker 5: some of these things.
Speaker 6: Because I've driven by all across the country.
Speaker 5: I've driven all of this country many times over, and
Speaker 5: I've seen the cattle farms, i have seen the chicken farms.
Speaker 6: I've seen all sorts of places.
Speaker 5: I think they're is a lot to be said about
Speaker 5: the ethics in which animals are being treated in those
Speaker 5: facilities that there is a better way to do this.
Speaker 5: When it comes to the piece act itself, I have
Speaker 5: a really tough time because it's completely taking away our freedom,
Speaker 5: and it's completely it's not just like removing certain aspects
Speaker 5: or changing certain things.
Speaker 6: It's removing the ability to do anything.
Speaker 5: And it's also telling the scientific researchers that they can
Speaker 5: of organ itself, they can't conduct any animal research, which
Speaker 5: like I had chickens that got this this disease, and
Speaker 5: the organ Health Department came out and actually collected the
Speaker 5: bodies and collected samples from all of my chickens and
Speaker 5: ended up coming out again when I unfortunately I lost
Speaker 5: all my chickens due to this disease, and they actually
Speaker 5: put this certain chemical stuff down in the chicken coop
Speaker 5: and on the dirt and everything, and it had to
Speaker 5: be left for like a certain amount of like one
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty days, and then they came back the
Speaker 5: retestes of soil over and over again to ensure that
Speaker 5: if I ever did have chickens in that area again,
Speaker 5: they would not be get reinfected.
Speaker 6: This eliminates that.
Speaker 5: Because it's classified as animal cruelty, and if you really
Speaker 5: read into it. I have a tough time with the
Speaker 5: it's redefining what sexual assault is with animals in the
Speaker 5: sense of even having breeding animals to produce more animals,
Speaker 5: and it's like they're going to do it on their
Speaker 5: own anyways.
Speaker 6: So like there's there's a lot of.
Speaker 5: It's a very messy ethical conversation with this bill, and
Speaker 5: it's not well defined. It's very much one way. It's
Speaker 5: either the left way or the right way. Not saying
Speaker 5: like you know, left lean right, like I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: there's like two sides of this. There's no discussion in
Speaker 5: the in between. There's no ability to change the language.
Speaker 5: It is either you go for this side or this side.
Speaker 5: And when it comes to disrupting the entirety of organ
Speaker 5: for a bill that is going to essentially take away
Speaker 5: the rights of the people to have access to meat, dairy, eggs, fiber,
Speaker 5: and so forth, I have a really tough time supporting that.
Speaker 5: So I don't I have no problem. A lot of
Speaker 5: my friends were vegan. I went through a phase where
Speaker 5: I was I attempted it. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 6: I didn't last very long.
Speaker 5: But you know I have I have no problem with
Speaker 5: that it's the back to the conversation of freedom. I
Speaker 5: just firmly believe that if we're going to have regulations,
Speaker 5: and we need to have conversations about regulations on everything,
Speaker 5: not just one industry, because we're talking about the seeds,
Speaker 5: the plants, all of it is being affected. Our water
Speaker 5: is being affected. We can't even collect rainwater. We are
Speaker 5: not doing. You know, if you have composts of a
Speaker 5: certain type and you know you use too much of it,
Speaker 5: you can get a fine for There's a lot of
Speaker 5: conversations when it comes to food in and of itself,
Speaker 5: and it's like we're picking and choosing instead of look,
Speaker 5: if we're going to hammer in, let's have ethics when
Speaker 5: it comes to how we're producing these products from animals,
Speaker 5: then let's actually all agree on, Hey, we need to
Speaker 5: change the methods in which this is happening, how they're
Speaker 5: being housed, all of these things, instead of being like, hey,
Speaker 5: you don't have the right to any of this any longer,
Speaker 5: we're not going to allow you to have it.
Speaker 6: That's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: I'm very curious, do you know the person running under
Speaker 1: your party in Oregon?
Speaker 4: Not off the top of my head, I'm not for sure,
Speaker 4: I beforey announced yet his name is Austin.
Speaker 2: I'm very curious how he being the representative of the
Speaker 2: American Congress Party, I'm wondering how he specifically falls on
Speaker 2: the Peace Act.
Speaker 1: Very curious.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like that's you being vegan. That's
Speaker 2: not like a party thing. That's a you think, correct, correct, Okay,
Speaker 2: just making sure make sure.
Speaker 4: You don't you don't have to be vegan to join
Speaker 4: our party.
Speaker 2: You know, there's people out there that are gonna believe
Speaker 2: some wild shit because of what we're talking about right now.
Speaker 6: But all right, so you only can be vegan, damn it.
Speaker 1: To kind of shift gears, but stay on it.
Speaker 2: I am also curious how does your party feel about
Speaker 2: military spending in the United States. I know a lot
Speaker 2: of people are very anti the situation in Iran, and
Speaker 2: that's not specifically what I'm talking about overall, although I
Speaker 2: guess tingentially, but a lot of people have issue with
Speaker 2: the amount of money that is going towards the American military.
Speaker 2: A lot of people want more money to go to
Speaker 2: the American military.
Speaker 1: Either way, this goes.
Speaker 2: Your party, and I guess specifically you speaking on behalf
Speaker 2: of yourself if you were to get the seat in DC,
Speaker 2: would you specifically on behalf of your constituents the ones
Speaker 2: voted you in. Would you be voting for more or
Speaker 2: less spending towards the United States military or pretty much
Speaker 2: cap it off where it is.
Speaker 1: Keep it going like that for a while. Where do
Speaker 1: you fall?
Speaker 3: Certainly less, you know right now? Yeah, definitely less right now.
Speaker 3: The biggest problem facing America, and being that you're a
Speaker 3: conspiracy podcast, I know there's some people who may not
Speaker 3: believe this, but the biggest issue is nuclear weapons. The
Speaker 3: biggest problem that we have and we are facing, is
Speaker 3: nuclear proliferation. Right now, the United States government spends one
Speaker 3: hundred billion dollars a year only to maintain our nuclear
Speaker 3: arsenal and it is an outrageous waste of money. And
Speaker 3: you have one mistake, you will have a catastrophic problem
Speaker 3: on our hands. So we have to first of all, denuclearized.
Speaker 3: We need to stop all of these senseless wars because
Speaker 3: all of them have essentially started by the United States
Speaker 3: poking the hornet's nest. If you will, we enable Israel
Speaker 3: to carry out genocide in Gaza, in Palestine, in the
Speaker 3: West Bank, and we are enabling them to start taking
Speaker 3: parts of Lebanon, which, you know, if anyone's paying attention,
Speaker 3: we saw that coming. We have also poked the hornet's
Speaker 3: nest in the Ukraine Russia War whenever Kamala Harris went
Speaker 3: over there and basically said, hey, Ukraine, you should join NATO.
Speaker 3: Three days later, that's whenever Putin decided to invade because
Speaker 3: of you know, the way that NATO is set up,
Speaker 3: you know. And so you look at all of these
Speaker 3: conflicts and you realize that the United States has been
Speaker 3: the provocateur of all of them. It's the Iran War
Speaker 3: as well. Oh well it was you know, a preemptive strike.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't just go around hitting people because
Speaker 3: they may or may not hit you. First, you go
Speaker 3: around being nice, and then if people are mean and
Speaker 3: they're going to fight, you know, you protect yourself. So
Speaker 3: we do need to have a defensive posture. We need
Speaker 3: to have a strong military. Absolutely. I have nothing but
Speaker 3: the utmost respect for our service members. My grandfather served
Speaker 3: in the Navy. But the problem is is that our
Speaker 3: politicians are not respecting them right now, and instead they're
Speaker 3: using them as their ponds to play in this you
Speaker 3: know game with other people's lives, and I think it
Speaker 3: is a very disgusting thing that is being done for
Speaker 3: into our service members, and I think that we need
Speaker 3: to bring more of them home.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: A lot of the discussion is around, well, we have
Speaker 3: all these military bases in different countries because we want
Speaker 3: to be able to prevent, you know, and have our
Speaker 3: hands and fingers on everything. You look at all the problems,
Speaker 3: they all go back to something that the United States did.
Speaker 3: You know, you can look at Iran. Iran was a
Speaker 3: very powerful but also a democratic society, and in nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty one they elected Mosadeg. Nineteen fifty three rolls around
Speaker 3: in the United States with the CIA and mi I
Speaker 3: five went in and ousted their leader, had a coup
Speaker 3: installed the Shaw who is now no longer the natural
Speaker 3: democratic leader. And now you have all this turmoil that
Speaker 3: has occurred since then. And now you have you know
Speaker 3: a lot of places in the Middle East saying death
Speaker 3: to America, death to Israel. And it is because of
Speaker 3: the absolute destruction that we have done to that region
Speaker 3: since I mean it probably goes back before, but at
Speaker 3: least since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, you know,
Speaker 3: with you know, the Zionists moving into Palestine, starting to
Speaker 3: try to set up settlements, all the knackbas that they've occurred,
Speaker 3: you know, the United States, of course being a provocateur
Speaker 3: funding it, you know, And so I think that you know,
Speaker 3: and I'll put it on there as well, right is,
Speaker 3: it's absolutely horrendous what happened on October seventh, absolutely a
Speaker 3: terrorist attack, but that does not mean that you need
Speaker 3: to be a terrorist to the terrorists. You know, what
Speaker 3: has been done in the wake of that has been
Speaker 3: an absolute genocide, and it has been acknowledged by criminal courts,
Speaker 3: international criminal courts. And so I think that we need
Speaker 3: to stop funding any country, by the way, any country
Speaker 3: that is carrying out genocides. We send money all over
Speaker 3: the place, and there are a few other ones that
Speaker 3: are occurring throughout Africa, and I am sure if we
Speaker 3: pulled back the money, we would find that worth throwing
Speaker 3: money there as well. It came out recently that in
Speaker 3: congressional testimony that the United States is funding isis we
Speaker 3: funded al Qaeda? We funded you know, essentially in Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: We left eight billion dollars worth of equipment there and
Speaker 3: people are like, how could you be so stupid? Well,
Speaker 3: they're not funding these terrorist organizations because then whenever something
Speaker 3: bad happens, it can justify us being there. So they
Speaker 3: create the enemy and then they become the enemy. And
Speaker 3: all of this to kill innocent people, I mean. And
Speaker 3: so for me, I think, you know, fundamentally, we have
Speaker 3: to roll back our spenditure on military and we need
Speaker 3: to spend it here at home. We need to fix
Speaker 3: our roads. People are sick, people are dying, people can't
Speaker 3: afford their insulin shots anymore. And yet we're spending We've
Speaker 3: spent I think over one a trillion dollars in this
Speaker 3: war in Iran. We're trying to spend more money. And
Speaker 3: of course I'm counting in the devastation the destruction that
Speaker 3: has happened to our own military bases as well. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you include that, we're probably up to like one
Speaker 3: point three billion dollars ish. So you know, to me,
Speaker 3: it's not to mention gas prices are now going up.
Speaker 3: They've almost doubled in prices here in Charleston. So to me,
Speaker 3: I think it's all very silly, and it highlights the
Speaker 3: military industrial complex that is completely out of touch, that
Speaker 3: has depletely overextended its stay, and it's all linked back
Speaker 3: to our financial institutions and how the International Monetary Fund
Speaker 3: destabilizes countries so that they can put in a central
Speaker 3: bank that props up the World Bank. So all of
Speaker 3: these things are very interconnected, and a lot of it
Speaker 3: is just taking the money, stop funding senseless wars and
Speaker 3: investing it in our own people.
Speaker 2: I will have to push back on a couple of
Speaker 2: the points that you made, although the overall message as
Speaker 2: far as the corruption leading to the wars, I would
Speaker 2: have to agree with you one hundred percent for sure.
Speaker 2: To say that these countries in the Middle East are
Speaker 2: saying death to America because of US having bases there
Speaker 2: and basically just poking the hornets nests in these areas,
Speaker 2: there is some truth to that, but keep in mind
Speaker 2: like the UAE has no problem with the Saudi Arabia
Speaker 2: has no problem with his Katar, Jordan, all these countries
Speaker 2: that are Muslim countries have no issue with us whatsoever
Speaker 2: because we do business with them. Iran really didn't become
Speaker 2: a problem until the Islamic Revolution. Ayatola took over, and
Speaker 2: then he was spouting death to Israel debt to America.
Speaker 2: From that point onward, and there's a few countries that
Speaker 2: follow suit because of religious extremism. Some of it, yes,
Speaker 2: because of US getting involved in that area and generations
Speaker 2: of people that look at Americans like the bad guys.
Speaker 2: There's definitely that too, but it's not a inherent thing
Speaker 2: to all countries, or even all of the Middle East.
Speaker 5: For that matter.
Speaker 2: The Ukraine situation, I mean, Ukraine was trying to get
Speaker 2: NATO for years and they kept getting denied. You're right
Speaker 2: about the whole Kamala situation, though she had no business
Speaker 2: going to Ukraine. How Biden some was on the board
Speaker 2: for Barisma, like they already had the representation in the
Speaker 2: right spots, right, So it was Romney's kid. I think
Speaker 2: Chelsea Clinton was too. I forget the whole list, but
Speaker 2: it was a whole situation, right, The Ukrainian energy deal,
Speaker 2: but that was very political, very dirty to your point.
Speaker 2: I don't know, though, man, I feel like decreasing military
Speaker 2: spending now, cutting the fat I could get down with
Speaker 2: that for sure, but I feel like cutting our spending
Speaker 2: would definitely put a massive target on our back because
Speaker 2: the only reason that we're able to live with the
Speaker 2: security that we have.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going on the whole courches people are
Speaker 1: fine for our freedom. So I'm not going that route
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: But what I am saying is that the overarching sense
Speaker 2: that you can feel safe overall is because we are
Speaker 2: the military powerhouse of the world, and nobody comes close.
Speaker 2: If we start reducing the amount of money that we
Speaker 2: are spending, that reduces the amount of military might that
Speaker 2: we have. And it's not like the countries that are
Speaker 2: in the second and third position are like super tight
Speaker 2: with us being China mostly.
Speaker 3: Well, if we I mean, we can roll that back
Speaker 3: a little bit, I mean, before we even get into
Speaker 3: let's say the aspects that you're talking about, like let's
Speaker 3: say fundamental ammunitions, bases, weapons, all that, let's just let's
Speaker 3: say that those stay the same. If we just even
Speaker 3: approach the waste, fraud and abuse right because right now,
Speaker 3: the way the system is set up is that if
Speaker 3: they don't use all of their fuel, if they burn
Speaker 3: through all the ammunition, then they don't get it for
Speaker 3: the next year. Correct, So if we're able to take
Speaker 3: out those stipulations, we would save a tremendous amount of
Speaker 3: money just to begin with there. So I mean, I
Speaker 3: think like that's one thing to consider that's fair. I
Speaker 3: think as I think as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the problem.
Speaker 2: Whenever you go for more money, you have to get
Speaker 2: it approved by Congress. For every more printer paper, we
Speaker 2: need more computer paper that has to go up to
Speaker 2: these crazy levels, and it's like, all right, fuck it.
Speaker 1: If they gave us X amount, we may not need it,
Speaker 1: but we're not going to get it next year.
Speaker 2: So if you're talking about maybe revamping the entire system
Speaker 2: of acquisitions for our military and cutting you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like making it more expedited where it matters, brother,
Speaker 2: I'm here for that absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's what I'm hinting at here. I guess
Speaker 4: was saying.
Speaker 3: Right, So, I mean, if they're putting certain provisions, and
Speaker 3: again maybe you know a little bit more than I
Speaker 3: do on this, but if they're putting certain provisions where
Speaker 3: it's like use it or lose it, like that needs
Speaker 3: to be gone.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You should be carrying it over over a year over year.
Speaker 3: If you have it, you don't need to be wasting it,
Speaker 3: shooting it into the sea, burning it. I understand that
Speaker 3: there's probably some fun there, but whenever we have aircraft
Speaker 3: just running around in circles because they have to burn gasoline.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're fundamentally destroying nature for the sake of money.
Speaker 1: No, No, I agree with that for sure, and that's
Speaker 1: that's always been the big thing.
Speaker 2: Raven Le and I are both Marine corpsvettes, and there's
Speaker 2: I can't tell how many ranges I went on where
Speaker 2: it's like, look, it's the end of the day, we
Speaker 2: have an extra like ten thousand rounds I have to
Speaker 2: get shot, So just fucking line up and just blow
Speaker 2: through it. Because the next time they would go to
Speaker 2: that range that they didn't. Let's say you had, you know,
Speaker 2: thirty thousand rounds for the day. If you turn two
Speaker 2: thousand in the next time, y'all your crew goes out.
Speaker 2: You're only getting twenty eight thousand, Like there's no way,
Speaker 2: like you know, and they just that's how it works.
Speaker 2: And that's not just military for the record, that's government.
Speaker 2: Why the DMV runs under a very similar pretense. If
Speaker 2: they don't use their entire budget, they lose it. So
Speaker 2: if that's an approach that we could take to all
Speaker 2: government spending, I mean, I feel like that's the entire
Speaker 2: point of DOGE, which that was, that was a fun
Speaker 2: experiment for a time. Were you pro or anti Doge
Speaker 2: when that was initially kicked off? Now what it became,
Speaker 2: now what it became. But with Elon and his crew
Speaker 2: trying to cut out these things, were you, as the
Speaker 2: political figure yourself for or against Doge?
Speaker 3: I was for the like the ethical I was for
Speaker 3: the essence of what it was meant to be. And
Speaker 3: first of all, Raven, thank you for your thank you
Speaker 3: for your service. I did not know that you, sir,
Speaker 3: so thank you. But for the ethical nature of the waste,
Speaker 3: fraud and abuse uncovering all that things, I think the
Speaker 3: way they went about it was tricky. And the information
Speaker 3: that came out afterwards about how they seemingly took a
Speaker 3: lot of the data from the American people, I think
Speaker 3: that was also very nefarious as well. So in essence
Speaker 3: I was agreeing with it. I was on team Elon
Speaker 3: of get rid of the waste broaden abuse. But then
Speaker 3: you know, it seems like maybe they got five hundred
Speaker 3: billion dollars. They told us that there was like one
Speaker 3: bank account that everybody just draws from and there's no oversight,
Speaker 3: Like I think all of that's great, but nothing happened afterwards.
Speaker 3: There was nothing that really felt like it shifted. It
Speaker 3: didn't change Congress. It didn't change the way that our
Speaker 3: government worked. And I think that's really like the biggest
Speaker 3: part that it kind of failed was great. It told
Speaker 3: us that there's a ton of waste fraud an abuse,
Speaker 3: and there's so much waste fraud abuse, and even Elon
Speaker 3: said that there was even more than he was expected.
Speaker 3: But we didn't do any like there's no like lasting
Speaker 3: change that came from that. There's no accountability and so
Speaker 3: on the tone of accountability. One of my platform, one
Speaker 3: of the American Congress Parties platform is the idea of
Speaker 3: an open books policy, so that we can track where
Speaker 3: every single penny goes, where it is spent, and if
Speaker 3: there is a certain department that people are unhappy with,
Speaker 3: you will be able to vote on it in real
Speaker 3: time and Congress will be forced to address that specific
Speaker 3: line item in the budget within a given month. So
Speaker 3: that's a part of accountability that we see we can
Speaker 3: bring as a change to with the American Congress Party.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean that's I think we could all
Speaker 1: kind of get down on that, be honest with you.
Speaker 2: It's just the issue that we have is that everything
Speaker 2: gets held up, everything gets pushed back, everything gets postponed.
Speaker 2: And and that's just the politicians not wanting to do
Speaker 2: the thing because they're still receiving lobbyist checks from God
Speaker 2: knows where to vote, god knows which way on every
Speaker 2: single topic.
Speaker 1: So that's a mess.
Speaker 2: Now you yourself, is there lobbyist groups that you have
Speaker 2: personally or your party takes any kind of donations from
Speaker 2: or is that like a big sticking point that y'all
Speaker 2: don't take donations from big entities.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, yep, no donations from no corporate packs, no lobbyists.
Speaker 3: Definitely have been approached many times, and it's it's very
Speaker 3: interesting and it's very enticing, and I can see.
Speaker 4: How and why people fall for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're going to do this anyhow, but you
Speaker 3: can I can kind of see past the I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't want to go too deep into it. I
Speaker 3: don't know how much I can say, but fundamentally I
Speaker 3: can see why people do it. And I think if
Speaker 3: you've not been around a lot of money and you're
Speaker 3: just getting into politics, it can be very easy to
Speaker 3: just take the money to take the bag. But I'm
Speaker 3: not doing this for money. I'm doing this for the
Speaker 3: benefit of humanity. I'm doing this for the benefit of
Speaker 3: the American people. And if I start taking dark money,
Speaker 3: then I'll be corrupted by it, right, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's one of those things. And so if there are
Speaker 3: people out there who want to create ads that want
Speaker 3: to promote me, like, by all means, go for it,
Speaker 3: but to actively accept it into my campaign, I will
Speaker 3: be reject continuously rejecting corporate lobbyists pack money, nothing from
Speaker 3: a pack of course, because it's it's not about me,
Speaker 3: it's not about money. I'm serving a higher purpose than
Speaker 3: my bank account.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Now there's going to be people out there saying, well,
Speaker 2: would acepting the money help promote your message? And for
Speaker 2: those that don't understand, like what really goes into political campaigns,
Speaker 2: it is money, period, Like that's what it is. Every
Speaker 2: yard sign, every radio ad, every TV commercial, whatever you
Speaker 2: name it, all of that really truly breaks down to
Speaker 2: dollars and cents. And somebody who is spending let's say
Speaker 2: a million dollars and that's a very very low amount
Speaker 2: as far as like these congressional races and Senate races
Speaker 2: can go. And we're talking federal level, don't even get
Speaker 2: me started. On the state level, it's just as bad.
Speaker 2: But having, oh, I spent a million dollars this campaign,
Speaker 2: that's cute. You're probably not going anywhere depending on where
Speaker 2: you're going. For spending twenty.
Speaker 1: Million dollars, Okay, you're gonna get your name out there.
Speaker 1: People are gonna know your name. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's what he means whenever he's saying that accepting
Speaker 2: money from these packs and from these special interest groups
Speaker 2: and from lobbyists, you know, it really does go into
Speaker 2: the war chests and it can really help and extremely
Speaker 2: enticing for a new or politician who's trying to just
Speaker 2: get their feet wet. But like you're saying, I understand
Speaker 2: that the problem is once you accept that money, you
Speaker 2: you are at the behest of the check signer when
Speaker 2: and if that time comes. It's very similar to doing
Speaker 2: any business with the mafia. It doesn't matter if it's
Speaker 2: just that one time for just a few bucks, because
Speaker 2: what it doesn't matter. Once they got you, they got you,
Speaker 2: and they'll call in that favor at a moment's notice
Speaker 2: or pull the rug out from under you. Because that's
Speaker 2: how this political system works, So that means a lot
Speaker 2: that you are actually not accepting any money from big groups. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, personal donations right from the individuals always welcome.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming, Oh yeah, you can go to writing qterry
Speaker 3: dot com slash donate and accepting all donations of course,
Speaker 3: and we're going to use that for exactly what I'm
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff that was pointed out just there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's really an awareness thing, and yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I see it as a grassroots movement. I would
Speaker 3: rather I'd rather take five dollars from every American, you know,
Speaker 3: because that's a ton of money, right, yeah, versus that
Speaker 3: amount of money from a corporate pact. Because again, I
Speaker 3: see this as the big picture. It's not about this race.
Speaker 3: It's about the future of America. I've got at least
Speaker 3: another sixty seventy years on this planet, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: and I believe that it's.
Speaker 4: A long game, right.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about getting to the top of Mount
Speaker 3: Everest right away. You know, I've got all this weight
Speaker 3: on my back to quote Raven, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: do it step by step.
Speaker 4: I'm going to do it the proper way. We're going
Speaker 4: to take our time. We're going to enjoy it.
Speaker 3: And as people come, as people want to carry their
Speaker 3: load with the American Congress Party, there'll be.
Speaker 4: Something for them to do.
Speaker 3: I've had a ton of people volunteer their time already,
Speaker 3: and it's really quite beautiful because they believe in that mission.
Speaker 3: They believe in the essence of what is the American
Speaker 3: Congress Party, many of which are very politically disinfected. I
Speaker 3: have some people who I have one person in particular
Speaker 3: who has gone through all of these different loopholes to
Speaker 3: get themselves not even acknowledged by the government because there's
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've maybe talked to people who like they like.
Speaker 4: The way that the system is sped.
Speaker 6: Citizens say that again, not the sovereign citizen group.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds something like that. Yeah, that might be it.
Speaker 3: Like she was even like, you know, I believe in
Speaker 3: everything you're doing and I want to get involved. I
Speaker 3: just don't know if I can because I want to
Speaker 3: be outside of the system. And she figured out she
Speaker 3: talked to her community and was like, okay, I can help.
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm not gonna be able to vote for you,
Speaker 3: but I'll help, like get your message out there. And
Speaker 3: so you know, it's it's people like that who just
Speaker 3: show up every now and then every couple of weeks
Speaker 3: there's a new face, and I'm like, all right, let's
Speaker 3: see what we can do together. So even though you
Speaker 3: know the money isn't as high as everybody else, it's
Speaker 3: it's really about the people. It's about the people who
Speaker 3: I'm connecting with who want to help out of the
Speaker 3: goodness of their soul. Because this is this is how
Speaker 3: we save our country. I mean, we can no longer
Speaker 3: be about money being the highest goal. It has to
Speaker 3: be about saving humanity.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, dude, I love this. I absolutely love this. So, Okay,
Speaker 1: when is the election taking place in your area?
Speaker 3: November third, number three US House of Representatives District one.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to write in Clayton K. Terry.
Speaker 3: And I've also been telling people for US Senate writing
Speaker 3: Clayton Q. Terry because Lindsey Graham has passed away and
Speaker 3: his Senate is up for grabs. So I definitely encourage
Speaker 3: you as well, if you're living in South Carolina, to
Speaker 3: write in Clayton K.
Speaker 4: Terry. So you're gonna have to get good at writing
Speaker 4: my name because you gotta do it twice.
Speaker 1: Hey, if it works, it works, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's no loophole. I'm able to do it.
Speaker 4: If I win both seats.
Speaker 3: Then they'll have to have a primary or like a
Speaker 3: runoff afterwards where they'll elect it.
Speaker 4: So we can get the corporations to waste more of
Speaker 4: their money. If you write me in twice.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, quick question for your area, man, And I
Speaker 1: actually never thought about asking this question, so because it's
Speaker 1: a write in, because this is a new political party,
Speaker 1: like they don't they've never had to put this on
Speaker 1: the ballot before under this party. What does it take
Speaker 1: to get to go from the right end ballot side
Speaker 1: of things to actually getting your own box.
Speaker 2: To be checked, so to speak? What kind of hoops
Speaker 2: do you have to jump through in the state of
Speaker 2: South Carolina.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you specified South Carolina because it is different
Speaker 3: state to state.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the states have their own elections. In
Speaker 3: South Carolina, I needed to get over before March thirty. First,
Speaker 3: I needed to have over ten thousand signatures of people
Speaker 3: who were in my district. But there was also getting
Speaker 3: ten thousand South Carolinians to sign for the American Congress Party.
Speaker 3: So I could have just gotten people for the South
Speaker 3: Caro for the American Congress Party, which would open up
Speaker 3: a bunch of seats for our party in the state.
Speaker 3: But again, that's an incredible undertaking, and you know, you
Speaker 3: think it's easy, but it definitely.
Speaker 1: Takes a lot of go in and reregister as a
Speaker 1: new Oh, absolutely, that'd be a pain in the ass. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a form, but you got to
Speaker 3: sign it, you got to write your name, you have
Speaker 3: to be illegal voter. People move out that people were
Speaker 3: recommending you get at least ten percent more than what
Speaker 3: you have. So it was a tremendous undertaking and I
Speaker 3: started doing it. But then it you know, you get
Speaker 3: to a certain point where I missed the deadline, which
Speaker 3: was March thirty first, So you get your name out
Speaker 3: there to people, which is good, but then you get
Speaker 3: to a point where it's now just you know, blast
Speaker 3: the media the best you can of Hey, November third,
Speaker 3: writing clai utary for US House Representatives and for US Senate.
Speaker 1: How many voters are in your district?
Speaker 4: How many voters I believe the winner of two years
Speaker 4: ago was like one hundred and twenty thousand votes. I
Speaker 4: think something like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe the loser had one hundred and ten thousand,
Speaker 3: So you're looking at probably about two hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty thousand in somewhere, right, Yeah, okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 3: So with all districts should be about the same. So
Speaker 3: all districts should roughly be that that amount.
Speaker 1: Is that for your state? Most districts are about that amount,
Speaker 1: about a quarter million, give or take.
Speaker 3: Well, I want to I want to double check this,
Speaker 3: but yeah, but every representative is supposed to represent the
Speaker 3: same because it's based on populous So like the Senate
Speaker 3: was two per state because it was like the equal
Speaker 3: equal representation, yeah, versus the House of Representatives is based
Speaker 3: on population.
Speaker 2: Was A was in South Carolina involved in the Big
Speaker 2: Geeryman during conversation just a couple of months ago or
Speaker 2: last year something like that. There was redistricting and people
Speaker 2: were losing their minds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was a that was I was going
Speaker 4: to be affected by that if it passed.
Speaker 1: Okay, So.
Speaker 4: No it did not pass.
Speaker 5: Okay, you're in District one, correct, Okay. It says that
Speaker 5: you have seven hundred and ninety seven and sixty eight people.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I don't know how many.
Speaker 6: Yeah, people, but I don't know how many.
Speaker 1: It actually it is incredible.
Speaker 2: So of that number, we got over three quarters of
Speaker 2: a million people, but only a third, all give or take,
Speaker 2: actually showed up to vote.
Speaker 3: That's my This is how disenfranchised people are. Yes, they
Speaker 3: just don't they just don't care. They've opted out mentally
Speaker 3: of the system.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: And I mean it's you know, it's reaching those people.
Speaker 3: It's saying, hey, here's your voice, here's someone who is
Speaker 3: going to return the power to you.
Speaker 4: And so that's a huge part of this absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so I'm seeing here it says twenty twenty census
Speaker 3: data says that it's about seven hundred and sixty thousand people,
Speaker 3: So that seven forty numbers probably pretty close that they
Speaker 3: try to get it around. But yeah, with the jerrymandering thing,
Speaker 3: they were going to completely change the districts. So you know,
Speaker 3: as somebody who's trying to encourage people and you know,
Speaker 3: figure out who your voting base is, they were going
Speaker 3: to completely warp it.
Speaker 4: And like move me more north. And so that would
Speaker 4: have been a whole a whole thing altogether.
Speaker 1: What was there big push for that one in your area?
Speaker 1: Was it racial?
Speaker 2: Was it you know, was it a tax bracket? Was
Speaker 2: it number of people per city, per capital? What was
Speaker 2: their big push? Texas had a.
Speaker 1: Big one here recently.
Speaker 2: Louisiana had one not too terribly long ago, where basically
Speaker 2: there they made it to where like they put a
Speaker 2: strip in the middle of the state that makes no
Speaker 2: sense by any logic whatsoever, but that's primarily where like
Speaker 2: the black voters are, so it gave a louder voice
Speaker 2: to that community. All these things. Different states do it
Speaker 2: for different reasons. What was the reason for years?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't really know if it was ever announced,
Speaker 3: because it was a think tank in Washington, DC that
Speaker 3: came up with it and proposed it and somehow I
Speaker 3: don't really know the process of how they got it
Speaker 3: into the state legislator because it was up to like
Speaker 3: the state to vote on it to decide if it
Speaker 3: was going to pass. But it wasn't even you know,
Speaker 3: it's not like a grassroots movement. It's not like the
Speaker 3: people of South Carolina wanted this. It was just bestowed
Speaker 3: upon them from Washington d C. Of Hey, maybe you
Speaker 3: guys should redistrict like this and then you know they
Speaker 3: try to convince the state legislators the best they can
Speaker 3: to pass it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: God, it makes but it doesn't make sense. It actually
Speaker 2: makes no sense. But like why they would do it
Speaker 2: and why DC decided that this was the right way
Speaker 2: to do it. So like, you know what, maybe we
Speaker 2: should put that to a vote when no one fucking
Speaker 2: asked for that whatsoever?
Speaker 1: That yeah, that checks out, totally checks now.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Clayton, we appreciate your time coming on the show
Speaker 2: this evening and promoting yourself, your party, your ideals, your beliefs.
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to have you on.
Speaker 5: Brother.
Speaker 2: Once again, Please tell the good cult members where they
Speaker 2: can go to support you, to find your literature, to
Speaker 2: find your platform, all the things, brother, all the shameless plugs.
Speaker 1: Go for it well.
Speaker 3: Kjua, Knight, Raven Lee, thank you so much for having
Speaker 3: me on. Thank you again for both of your service.
Speaker 3: It's very much appreciated and hopefully we can right some
Speaker 3: of the wrongs maybe if you will, that are that
Speaker 3: are going on in the world.
Speaker 4: So my name is Clayton Q.
Speaker 3: Terry. I am running for US House representatives in District
Speaker 3: one in South Carolina in the US Senate. I am
Speaker 3: a writing candidate on November three.
Speaker 4: If you know anybody in.
Speaker 3: South Carolina, please send them this podcast podcast, send them
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Speaker 3: I'll be there Facebook. If you're interested in deeper education,
Speaker 3: I have started the Academy of Indigo Education dot Com
Speaker 3: and there it'll walk you through kind of what I teach.
Speaker 3: I'm in the process of creating the first course. You
Speaker 3: can purchase it now. There's a free workshop workshop on
Speaker 3: there so you can get a little taste for what
Speaker 3: I teach and how it's going. And yeah, I have
Speaker 3: my own podcast, Traveling to Consciousness. Been a little inconsistent lately,
Speaker 3: but hopefully it's going to get back on track. A
Speaker 3: lot of things going on, so yeah, that's kind of me.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing. And we're here to save nature.
Speaker 4: We're here to save the world.
Speaker 3: We're here to empower humanity, empower the United States of
Speaker 3: America to be the country that I grew up believing in.
Speaker 3: And in order to do so, we have to become
Speaker 3: healthy mentally, spiritually, physically all of it. And we're going
Speaker 3: to do that through free non chemical food, free education,
Speaker 3: free medication. And so in order to do that, you
Speaker 3: got to get involved politically, become powerful politically and monetarily.
Speaker 3: My Indigo Education course does that. It will teach you
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Speaker 3: thank you for having me, and hopefully guys will be
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Speaker 1: Absolutely man, always a pleasure having you on. Before we
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