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<v Speaker 1>You see somethings are going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you.

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<v Speaker 2>Help?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we're live, well not live, but Nick tell

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<v Speaker 3>us you are what you do and where we can

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<v Speaker 3>find you listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much for asking me on I

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate it absolutely. What do I do? I have

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<v Speaker 2>the Occult Rejects podcast. That is a podcast. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, what it's at now is like a

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<v Speaker 2>conglomerate of a bunch of other podcasts. Wasn't always like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It has probably about a total of almost maybe ten

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<v Speaker 2>people that are part of it. But uh, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>Occult Rejects Podcast. We cover occultism, conspiracies, true crime, paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know, try to tie it to an ocult sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got the Occult Research Institute or that is

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<v Speaker 2>a website. Uh you know, just tons and tons of

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<v Speaker 2>different information from different people. But yeah, all of our

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<v Speaker 2>stuff you can find on YouTube, Bitch You Rumble and

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<v Speaker 2>all major podcasts. What about Patreon? Actually, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>we have. We have a Patreon. I mean totally honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you. If you want to sign up with the

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<v Speaker 2>Patreon you can. I think it's five bucks a month

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<v Speaker 2>and you get nothing. It's just a way to donate

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<v Speaker 2>to the show. I think it even says that you

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<v Speaker 2>get nothing. This is a donation, you guys. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to charge people for stuff, so I'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather just answer donations. That's just going there.

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<v Speaker 3>You go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's awesome. Thank you. All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So first question I like to ask all my guests

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<v Speaker 3>is what got you into this crazy world of high strangeness?

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<v Speaker 3>Like and and I know your story is a good one, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but uh yeah what what what brought you to this

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<v Speaker 3>crazy ass world of that we talked about all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I plan had to take that back to like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>almost twenty years ago, I'd say before before I guess

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven, twenty ten. Before that, I was I was

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<v Speaker 2>heavily into conspiracy theories. I'd say probably around two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and nine is when I started getting big into that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I forgot how. I think it was just literally

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<v Speaker 2>a suggestion on YouTube took me to like Project Camelot,

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<v Speaker 2>and somehow I went down like the rabbit hole of

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<v Speaker 2>like conspiracy theories and all this weird shit, and I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gravitated towards Michael Tassarian, David Iike, Mark Passio,

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<v Speaker 2>oh God, Jordan Maxwell, you know, all those people that

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<v Speaker 2>were big into the occult. And I found it really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always did believe kind of like in the

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<v Speaker 2>occult of magic as a child. So this stuff interested

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<v Speaker 2>me and I started looking into it, and you know, again,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess for a few years it was just like

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<v Speaker 2>something that I was heavily interested in, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>research a lot of it, and at some point I

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<v Speaker 2>just realized, like, I, you know, I'm following all these orders,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm following all these names, all these people that started

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff, and I was like, oh, I still

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<v Speaker 2>have zero fucking clue what the hell magic actually is, though,

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, maybe maybe I can start looking

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<v Speaker 2>at some books and stuff. So I had gotten like

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<v Speaker 2>one book it was like High Magic, or like thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>Lessons or twelve Lessons by Donald Michael Craig, something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I checked that out and I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>interested in it. And there was some stuff of Alista

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<v Speaker 2>Crowley in there, and I knew who he was. I

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<v Speaker 2>knew like stories of him. I did think he was

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<v Speaker 2>in a cult genius regardless of what fucked up shit

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<v Speaker 2>he may have done. So I did like contemplate a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, like all right, this guy might have stuff

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<v Speaker 2>worth checking out. And eventually I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see if I can actually find a

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<v Speaker 2>place to go to. And I knew somebody who was

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<v Speaker 2>a Freemason because they were both. The guy was also

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<v Speaker 2>into ceremonial magic, and he had if you're gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>to get into ceremonial magic and the Freemasons, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be waiting fucking a long time, he said, before they

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<v Speaker 2>even acknowledged that shit. And I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not putting years in for that. And he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>to see if there's like maybe a Golden Doorn or

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<v Speaker 2>an OTO near you. And I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the Golden Dorn because I was kind of interested

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<v Speaker 2>bit more academic. I guess there wasn't one near me,

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<v Speaker 2>but when I started looking, I was like, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking Oto lodge twenty minutes away. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I could check that out. I mean, it's really

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<v Speaker 2>the only options I got, And eventually I pulled the trigger.

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<v Speaker 2>I contacted them and asked them about coming to visit

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<v Speaker 2>the place, and they had, like all these places have

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<v Speaker 2>like some sort of social media you know, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>some way you can get in touch with them, and

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<v Speaker 2>they'll have like some sort of schedule probably for what

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<v Speaker 2>goes on in the lodge. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they had maybe they suggested or I just decided, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll go to Antic Mass. I think because I

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<v Speaker 2>found it on YouTube and I figured, all right, I

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<v Speaker 2>could watch it on YouTube. I have an idea of

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<v Speaker 2>like what I'm walking into. So uh eventually I made

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<v Speaker 2>it to a Gnostic Mass, and uh, I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was weird at first too. It did even like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, uh, I guess, because you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>since you don't show nudity on YouTube. When the tits

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<v Speaker 2>came out in the Gnostic Mass, I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck's going on? As this idea shut shit

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<v Speaker 2>like happened, and I remember telling myself, this gets any

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<v Speaker 2>fucking weirder than this. I'm leaving. Yeah, yeah, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm showing Most people are like, oh, great titties, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, all right, what the fuck's happening next?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm in like the basement of a building

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<v Speaker 2>in a fucking temple where I'm like fuck, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so nothing else got weirder. I think the next time

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<v Speaker 2>I went back, it was actually for a class on

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<v Speaker 2>either like making candle magic or some shit. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a Gnostic mass right again, but uh, I went back

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<v Speaker 2>and took it, went back for a class, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, this stuff isn't like too bad,

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<v Speaker 2>and like some of the people there were all and

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed there was a lot of people there into

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<v Speaker 2>different stuff, so I was like, this might work out

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<v Speaker 2>for me, just to learn from other people. And I

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<v Speaker 2>guess about that lesson about another five or six years

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<v Speaker 2>until I left. You know, I got sucked in a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. I didn't drink the kool aid too much,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was you know, you know, I did start

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<v Speaker 2>going and became a little bit more active, and at

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<v Speaker 2>some point around COVID time, I did have like I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, would have a regimen where I would do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of meditations, chakra work and you know, ritual

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<v Speaker 2>work to believe it or not, almost like every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And eventually at some point I started when I would

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<v Speaker 2>consider having magical experiences and to me, it just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>match my experience at that place. I didn't think the

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<v Speaker 2>people there were heading in the same direction as me.

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<v Speaker 2>And around COVID time, they got all crazy with that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>They they closed their doors, they wouldn't you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't doing anything. And then when they decided that they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to maybe open back up again, they sent out

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<v Speaker 2>an email saying that ninety three percent, which is funny

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<v Speaker 2>because they used ninety three all the time, ninety three

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the lodge is uncomfortable with going there unless

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<v Speaker 2>they're vaccinated. And I was like, I know, me, Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>and my friend Adjason, all three of us never got

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<v Speaker 2>this fucking supposed thing that you just took, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>how was it that ninety three percent? Because we all

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<v Speaker 2>would have said, fuck you, that's crazy, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So I was just like, this wasn't even

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<v Speaker 2>a real poll, is it, because we didn't get fucking asked, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, yeah, now you're just making fucking shit

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<v Speaker 2>up in my opinion. And then they decided to start

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<v Speaker 2>doing zoom meetings and I was like, all right, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>stick with that just to stay active. But even at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, six months prior to COVID or them closing down.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even going anymore because I just didn't I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel right there, getting headed in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And then they got crazy with the George

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<v Speaker 2>Floyd shit, and then that was that was what wrapped

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<v Speaker 2>it up. The George Floyd stuff happened. Actually, the George

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<v Speaker 2>Floyd might have actually happened before, like the crazy COVID

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<v Speaker 2>shit with the you gotta be vaccinated, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>already pissed off, but they had a thing for the

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<v Speaker 2>George Floyd shit. They sent out an email and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I gotta check this out. I'm gonna join

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<v Speaker 2>the Zoom just for shits and giggles and see what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck's like. Why are we talking about George Floyd?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we're the Oto, the Oto, and I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>use this an example because it's a perfect example. Is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot like alcoholics anonymous in the sense we're not

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to have shit to say about the outside world

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<v Speaker 2>except what's going on in here. We're only supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about magic. Fucking politics has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with this. Why the fuck are we getting into this shit?

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<v Speaker 2>And it ended up turning into like almost group therapy,

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<v Speaker 2>like a kumbaya about like who the fuck's experienced racism,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And I was just like, this is interesting

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<v Speaker 2>considering there's only like fucking two black people on the lodge,

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<v Speaker 2>so like why the fuck and only one of them

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<v Speaker 2>are here, so like what is this about? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>We got white people going around in a circle talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how they saw black being like, I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck is this man? And then I was just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm I don't know about this. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the all of sudden they brought up asking if people

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to start protesting together, and I was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck does this have to do with the

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<v Speaker 2>Oto man? And after that I was like, Yo, this

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<v Speaker 2>is it. Like they're too far left, they're getting involved.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just very weird. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this shit is my opinion, just my opinion overall.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think the OTO, if it wasn't from inception,

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's a CIA fucking I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>ran by the CIA at this point. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's. My opinion is just I've even questioned this

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<v Speaker 2>about the Temple set. I'm just gonna be completely honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, and especially from having a few of those

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<v Speaker 2>guys on the show, I think the government or the

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<v Speaker 2>CIA gets involved in these places and they realize that

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<v Speaker 2>there are smart motherfuckers in these places, people that I've

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<v Speaker 2>experienced magic, and they actually just like use them as data.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, And maybe they may not even so, man,

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<v Speaker 2>these people may not even know, but I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>being pent out and used by the CIA.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, like I mean that is so I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>putting some stuff together here. So you're saying, like the

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<v Speaker 3>way that they're reacting to a I guess you would

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<v Speaker 3>call it, because I don't like to get political, but

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<v Speaker 3>a more liberal agenda, right, so let's call it that,

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<v Speaker 3>all right. So we're already predisposed to this. But so

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<v Speaker 3>along with that, and I've talked about this on other

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about that is this is the the progressive

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<v Speaker 3>or the left's playbook. Is is nudge by cast Sunstein?

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<v Speaker 3>Who and when when we say nudge is just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>You just turn the heat up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're just nudging that person to do exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, so it wouldn't make it. It's not a

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<v Speaker 3>far jump. It's not a far leap. Pretty soon are

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna probably have to restart the podcast because we're

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<v Speaker 3>that that is stuff that they are abslite. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's a great correlation because it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A they even had a position there. This is another

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<v Speaker 2>thing to add on where I started even thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 2>up in degrees? They're gonna even if you've been there

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<v Speaker 2>for a while, they may start being like, oh, why

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<v Speaker 2>don't you start like kind of doing things. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the mask you know, get involved. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>I know this may sound silly and cheesy, but like again,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point they would show tits and I'm gona

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<v Speaker 2>just be honest. Most of the again, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going Gods gift to women, but these women I

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'll get I'll start, I'll start, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>start doing one of the child there's two they called children.

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<v Speaker 2>You're basically representing the pillars and you're following the priest

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<v Speaker 2>and the priestess throughout the ritual. I chose to do

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<v Speaker 2>one of those because when the time comes for the

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<v Speaker 2>completely different way and looking at everybody else and she's

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<v Speaker 2>behind me. So now now I don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about any uncomfortability, and I'm getting involved and I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>the easiest fucking thing. I'm walking around with salt water

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<v Speaker 2>and Sultan water or a fucking incense and incense burner,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So I did that, But eventually they start

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<v Speaker 2>wanting you to do other stuff, and when you get

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<v Speaker 2>to the second degree, you're eligible to start doing like

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<v Speaker 2>you start, you would do skypes with uh God, I

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<v Speaker 2>forgot the fucking dude's name. He's like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>highest ups. He might have been like the outerhead guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Beto whatever. I forgot as fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>They have silly fucking names. The I thought from someone

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<v Speaker 2>that I had spoke to from another lodge. They said

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<v Speaker 2>that they had that position. They said it was easy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought, they said, once a month, you talk

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<v Speaker 2>to the guy and he just gives you, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on and how everything is. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I could do that. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking easy thing to get them off my back. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it for a year. When I looked into it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's every week. I was like, what the fuck do

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<v Speaker 2>you need to know about every fucking week inside that lodge? Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck are you looking for? You know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking for data at this point, there's something behind this.

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<v Speaker 2>If every week you want to know, what the like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the difference from last week? A couple of people

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<v Speaker 2>showed up, somebody showed some fucking titties, and we went home.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, that's a gnostic mess, man.

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<v Speaker 2>We had some we had some fucking cakes, a light,

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<v Speaker 2>we had some fucking wine. Everybody talked shit and we

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<v Speaker 2>went home. What the fuck do you need to know

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<v Speaker 2>about every week? Dude? There's something up with that. In

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, that's just weird. Yeah, yeah, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, yo, I ain't being a fucking spy before,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and you want me to start repeating the

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<v Speaker 2>shit I hurt people. Uh, you know, he's dropping her

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<v Speaker 2>fucking weird. It was weird, And I was like, that

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<v Speaker 2>was another one that I was like, I don't know. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and another thing. After you do your initiations, eventually a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks later, they'll do a class for the

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<v Speaker 2>people that were there and or people who even attended

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<v Speaker 2>or took the initiation already. If you took the second degree,

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<v Speaker 2>you could come back, you know, three years later. For

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<v Speaker 2>one of those classes, they started telling you things that

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<v Speaker 2>would be needed to move up at certain degrees. And

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<v Speaker 2>at one of them, if you're with somebody, the person's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be in the OTO. And then above that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was the seventh or eighth degree, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to sign over all your shit. But then now

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<v Speaker 2>I had this guy Paul on my show, which I

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<v Speaker 2>do think he might have been telling the truth about this,

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<v Speaker 2>because he was actually saying he doesn't there was somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else I had on my show that was a tenth degree,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, I don't believe they probably stepped down

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<v Speaker 2>because once you reach tenth degree, all that shit everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else chipped in and fucking gave the order at the

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<v Speaker 2>eighth degree is now yours. Right, So that is a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking cult. You're giving up your shit at the eighth

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<v Speaker 2>degree and if you never go any higher than that,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll never get it back and somebody else owns it.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck is that? So weird? That is crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>Jo I remember sitting there and they said something about

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<v Speaker 2>like sin oval your property. I was like, yo, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like trying to like look at my boy Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>who like did every fucking initiation with me up to

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<v Speaker 2>that point. I'm like looking at I'm like, Yo, did

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<v Speaker 2>you just fucking hear that? And from that moment on,

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<v Speaker 2>I already knew it was I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>here forever because I'm not doing that shit. That's fucking retarded.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a cult. If you were taking my shit

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, absolutely a cult, fucking while That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Yo, this is not for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I knew my time was short.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point, right, So what did you move into?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you like? Where did where?

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<v Speaker 3>Where did we go from there? When when you decide

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<v Speaker 3>so around.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even tell you anymore now, yeah, and looking back,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's so like, but uh, I guess getting into the stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>I could say I got heavily into Kabbala. I got

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<v Speaker 2>it too, that Jamatria planetary magic. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that's where you're trying to get into, like where did

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<v Speaker 2>they go from? But yeah, yeah, what did I did

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ritual work. I used to do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the uh lesser banishing ritual, the pentagram, the hexagram.

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<v Speaker 2>I would do with a lot of invocations too, but uh,

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<v Speaker 2>daily I would do meditations, I would do chakra work

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<v Speaker 2>and uh breathing techniques and visual visualizations. But I would

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<v Speaker 2>say probably two or three times a day. I still

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<v Speaker 2>did like banishing rituals and ship But I did that

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<v Speaker 2>for years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 3>And where like what what were the effects if any?

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually, at one point I started having like weird experiences

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<v Speaker 2>where I would go into meditations and uh, I all

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<v Speaker 2>the first time it happened when I did, I did

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<v Speaker 2>like my meditations. I would normally do a meditation before

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<v Speaker 2>ritual before like I get into it, just to clear

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<v Speaker 2>my mind, and then I would get into the ritual

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<v Speaker 2>then sometimes when I wanted to, I guess, uh evoke

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<v Speaker 2>whatever I'm doing. I sometimes like in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 2>I would do another meditation to think about like what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually doing. And sometimes I would use the uh

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<v Speaker 2>oh God, what's it called?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>The middle pillow ritual where instead of seven chakras, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have like really five that you're focusing on, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to like vibrate certain sounds and picture them and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know all these things that you're supposed to envision,

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<v Speaker 2>and that one I was just kind of like and

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was doing it in an Egyptian too. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was saying the words an Egyptian. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if this makes a difference or not. I started

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<v Speaker 2>doing like the chakra things, and I was focusing on

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<v Speaker 2>my third eye and pushing on it, which I might

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<v Speaker 2>sound crazy for people who don't don't understand that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was pushing on it, and like all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it was just like I had some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of explosion, and it's like I was in like a

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a high reds, like like I walked into

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<v Speaker 2>a movie. It was very weird and that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like freaked me out, But it was like it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I had this view that I felt like that I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know why. I just assumed there

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<v Speaker 2>was like a pyramid, because I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 2>inside of a place that had it peaked like a pyramid,

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<v Speaker 2>but the wall was gone and I could see out

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<v Speaker 2>and it just looked like sand everywhere. So in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, this is fucking Egypt or wherever. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, Yeah, it's a pyramid. And then I started

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about, like, well, where am I? And I started

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like who am I? Because like all I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 2>is just like a vision. I'm not It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>there's anybody attached to it. And it's like, all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, my view kind of like swivels around. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's like it was like a fucking floating camera

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<v Speaker 2>or something, and it starts to turn around, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like looking at this like being that's like standing there,

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<v Speaker 2>and it looks like an Egyptian being, like standing in

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<v Speaker 2>a cutoff part of a of a pyramid. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I started to think, I was like, is that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I thought that, I woke up, I

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<v Speaker 2>came out of it. That kind of freaked me out,

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<v Speaker 2>weirded me out. I was like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck that was about, because the weird thing is

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<v Speaker 2>is that it actually seemed extremely detailed, like the grain

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<v Speaker 2>you could almost see the fucking pores and everything really

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<v Speaker 2>like almost sandy believe or not. I've even gone back.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Yo, it almost looks like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they talk about making things out of clay and when

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<v Speaker 2>you start getting into kabala and shit, I'm like that

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<v Speaker 2>almost looked like everything was made out of clay at sand.

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<v Speaker 2>It was weird. So I actually was like, yo, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna chill out with some of the rituals

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I'm just gonna stick to like basic

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<v Speaker 2>meditation shit and just you know, go back to basics

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<v Speaker 2>and just chill out on that, because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the fuck that was and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like pretty fucking like intense and realistic to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, I don't know what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>happened in my head. So I was like, chill out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think about a week later, I was, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was meditating and I was going up and down

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<v Speaker 2>in the god pose, which is basically just like with

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<v Speaker 2>you're just kind of sitting still. And I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>my meditation, and then I started going in the chakra

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<v Speaker 2>work and I started pushing on like my third eye again,

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<v Speaker 2>push on it, and like, you know, after meditating for

416
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<v Speaker 2>a while, for people who do that, you might I

417
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<v Speaker 2>just sound silly, but it's like, twenty minutes in, it's

418
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<v Speaker 2>gonna seem darker for me than it was five minutes in.

419
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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. Just after a while, it

420
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<v Speaker 2>seems to get darker and darker. Maybe your eyes aren't

421
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<v Speaker 2>paying attention, like what's going on outside or whatever. It

422
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<v Speaker 2>would get pretty dark. But I was realizing when I

423
00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:44.559
<v Speaker 2>was pushing on the pineal gland, it would almost make

424
00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:47.039
<v Speaker 2>it look like in the middle of my vision, like

425
00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.880
<v Speaker 2>it got even darker to where it almost looked like

426
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<v Speaker 2>like in like oil coming up out of the ground

427
00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:54.559
<v Speaker 2>and starting to like spread out. And I was like, oh,

428
00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.519
<v Speaker 2>this is interesting, So I'm going with it. You know what,

429
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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So I'm still pressing on it, and it

430
00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:04.440
<v Speaker 2>turns totally black, and it starts to look like almost

431
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<v Speaker 2>real fine lines of like colors from like a thermal cam.

432
00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:12.640
<v Speaker 2>But it was like thin burning lines, like like rainbow,

433
00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:15.799
<v Speaker 2>almost like from a rainbow slick of oil in a road.

434
00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.359
<v Speaker 2>It almost looks like that coming out from the edges.

435
00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:22.160
<v Speaker 2>And then it just totally goes black, as black as

436
00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:25.599
<v Speaker 2>you are, way black than it was before. And then

437
00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:29.880
<v Speaker 2>it almost starts to look like water like it almost

438
00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:31.960
<v Speaker 2>starts to look like it's like moving. And I have

439
00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:34.200
<v Speaker 2>even wondered, as crazy as it sounds, when we get

440
00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:35.880
<v Speaker 2>into it more, maybe you'll see why I was wondering

441
00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:38.359
<v Speaker 2>about that. But I had even thought like, is that

442
00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:41.640
<v Speaker 2>actually not moving? And is there some sort of like light,

443
00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:43.599
<v Speaker 2>because if you shine light on something in a certain way,

444
00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:45.039
<v Speaker 2>you can make it look like it's waving even though

445
00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:48.160
<v Speaker 2>it's not. Of course, you know, it's just so I

446
00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:50.039
<v Speaker 2>see that going on, and then all of a sudden

447
00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:53.119
<v Speaker 2>it just stops, like like complete like it just turned

448
00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:55.359
<v Speaker 2>to ice. And then all of a sudden, I see

449
00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:59.920
<v Speaker 2>this white fucking burning dot like and this sounds crazy,

450
00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:02.319
<v Speaker 2>even though I'm in my own head. It looks like

451
00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like there's distance inside my head between me and this.

452
00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I would call it a blazing star, because I do

453
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<v Speaker 2>question if this was what Crowley's actually talking about. I

454
00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:14.480
<v Speaker 2>would see this burning white light and I would just

455
00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:18.119
<v Speaker 2>hold on to it, and like if I wasn't pressing

456
00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:21.519
<v Speaker 2>on my pineal gland and just sound crazy, almost making

457
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<v Speaker 2>my eyes cross eyed by looking up towards my pineal

458
00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:28.960
<v Speaker 2>gland with my eyes closed, I would lose it. This

459
00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.039
<v Speaker 2>just sound crazy. It's almost like I had to lock

460
00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:33.519
<v Speaker 2>on with my eyes in the pineal gland and hold

461
00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:36.200
<v Speaker 2>on to this dot and then it will just stay.

462
00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:39.680
<v Speaker 2>And then it starts to get bigger too. And then

463
00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:41.759
<v Speaker 2>like as it's getting bigger, it's like you see it

464
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<v Speaker 2>almost like this black smoke starts swirlling around and turns

465
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<v Speaker 2>into a sphere in front of the white light. So

466
00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:50.160
<v Speaker 2>now as it starts to get bigger, it's like, okay,

467
00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:52.480
<v Speaker 2>this is an eclipse now, which is what's on my

468
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:55.200
<v Speaker 2>logo all over the shit that right, So now I

469
00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.880
<v Speaker 2>got this big eclipse just like fucking coming up, and

470
00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:03.160
<v Speaker 2>it's in my vision and all these from the like

471
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:09.079
<v Speaker 2>four cardinal angles, it would have directions, colors start coming out,

472
00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>and it starts to spin and starts to look like

473
00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>a swaped like I'm just gonna keep it real, and

474
00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>it starts to spin and all these lines look like

475
00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:20.359
<v Speaker 2>it's reverberating out. Now, So I got this big eclipse

476
00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:23.559
<v Speaker 2>in front of me and these like those fluorescent colored

477
00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:26.279
<v Speaker 2>lines again that looks like like a thermal camera something like.

478
00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:30.119
<v Speaker 2>It's like burning colors, something I have never seen with

479
00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.240
<v Speaker 2>my eyes open. That's another thing. All this stuff looks

480
00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.160
<v Speaker 2>way different than if I have my eyes open. It's

481
00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:40.119
<v Speaker 2>hard to explain, but it's so they're reverberating out and

482
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.839
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, it starts looking like fucking

483
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:47.319
<v Speaker 2>explosions or something like around it, like are orange and red.

484
00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:54.079
<v Speaker 2>And then at some point the explosions almost start to

485
00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:56.119
<v Speaker 2>look I's seen it sound weird, and that's why I

486
00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:57.920
<v Speaker 2>use it on one of my logos. It almost starts

487
00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to look like roses blooming and opening up around the eclipse.

488
00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And then it's like, so I'm watching this and I'm

489
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:09.119
<v Speaker 2>still focusing and like my opinion, I'm like, yo, this

490
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:11.880
<v Speaker 2>this is a great fucking free movie I'm watching right now.

491
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:14.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I Swear to God, I'm not thinking, like

492
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.160
<v Speaker 2>really anything about this besides like, oh, this is some

493
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:19.359
<v Speaker 2>pretty fucking cool, wicked shit I'm seeing right now with

494
00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>my eyes closed. Swear to God, I'm not thinking anything

495
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:24.880
<v Speaker 2>insane about this. I was even like, hell, this would

496
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:28.359
<v Speaker 2>have been cold to fucking stone, you know. So I'm watching,

497
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching this ship, and now all of a sudden

498
00:24:31.079 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 2>that shit goes away, and I start getting like all

499
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 2>these all these geometric shapes like spinning, like sacred geometry,

500
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>spinning around the fucking eclipse, and it almost like like

501
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.920
<v Speaker 2>flashing past me and like spinning and all this shit,

502
00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:47.519
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, this is fucking crazy, you know.

503
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.119
<v Speaker 2>And then I see that it goes for a while

504
00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:52.319
<v Speaker 2>and then all of them sudden it stops. And then

505
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:54.720
<v Speaker 2>this is like when I was like, Yo, what the fuck?

506
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:58.039
<v Speaker 2>If you see my logo, it looks like movie reels

507
00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:00.400
<v Speaker 2>coming out of the eclipse. Now, now, if you were

508
00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:02.319
<v Speaker 2>to like take away making it look like a movie

509
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:06.799
<v Speaker 2>rail and just had windows that were separated from each

510
00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:08.720
<v Speaker 2>other and looked like they were just going past you

511
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.319
<v Speaker 2>like this, that's exactly what starts happening. All of a sudden,

512
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:16.039
<v Speaker 2>these these windows that look like they're like Sepias cellophane.

513
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:20.359
<v Speaker 2>They almost look like like it's like kind of like tinted,

514
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:22.680
<v Speaker 2>but you can't see it clearly, and you just see

515
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.240
<v Speaker 2>these windows across your cycleing really slow, and it looks like,

516
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I swear to god, I don't know what the fuck

517
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>it is different times or places or something, but like

518
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.400
<v Speaker 2>every one of them has a different image in it.

519
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.759
<v Speaker 2>And one time I actually was interested in them, because

520
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.839
<v Speaker 2>this has happened to me multiple times. For some reason,

521
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:43.839
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, what's in that window? Well, what's in

522
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:46.279
<v Speaker 2>that And it's weird. It's like again, when I have

523
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.079
<v Speaker 2>this vision, I don't have a body. I'm just like,

524
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just witnessing something. Technically, it feels like, so I'd

525
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.279
<v Speaker 2>be thinking, like, what's in that window? And it's like

526
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>my vision starts moving close to it and then turns

527
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:01.079
<v Speaker 2>to the side and like looks into it, and I'm

528
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 2>looking at it. I'm like, yo, that looks like was

529
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.640
<v Speaker 2>that Arizona or is that a nuclear fallout? Because it

530
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:08.799
<v Speaker 2>just looked like nothing, like just barren land. And I'm like,

531
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, I thought inside my head, this is

532
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:13.200
<v Speaker 2>a thought that came to my head. This doesn't look

533
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:15.279
<v Speaker 2>like a place that I want to visit. I don't know,

534
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, maybe it was an option, I don't know,

535
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:20.519
<v Speaker 2>And as soon as I thought that, it came right

536
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 2>out of it. But other times when I just kind

537
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 2>of let the things go, if I let them go

538
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.200
<v Speaker 2>at that point and just keep going and the eclips

539
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>like almost starts to get brighter, I'll start feeling physical

540
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.640
<v Speaker 2>feelings even within my body. At that point, I'll start

541
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.240
<v Speaker 2>getting like almost like a trembling in my feet. And

542
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 2>it's almost as if as the trembling moves up. Let's say,

543
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:46.200
<v Speaker 2>the trembling starts at my feet, by the time I

544
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>got to my knees, everything below my knees, it doesn't

545
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>even feel like it's there anymore. Is that if as

546
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>if it blew away or doesn't even exist, or I'm

547
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.119
<v Speaker 2>like erasing my code or some shit, kind of like

548
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Tron But do you see the guy getting zafted into

549
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 2>the computer. It's almost like that, right, It's like all

550
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>that shit it's getting exact it's gone, and you know,

551
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 2>so it starts to go up towards closer to like

552
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:07.160
<v Speaker 2>my stomach now, and it's like almost like I could

553
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 2>feel like everything maybe in me is starting to build up,

554
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and then it gets to like up in my head,

555
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and at one point, like right out the back of

556
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the right where they put the fucking yamica. I don't

557
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:21.079
<v Speaker 2>know if that has something to do with it. It

558
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>literally feels like I'm starting to like fucking burst out

559
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 2>of the top of my head. And then at that

560
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 2>point it feels like it sounds crazy like water or

561
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:32.359
<v Speaker 2>electricity is something. It just starts flowing from the bottom

562
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:35.079
<v Speaker 2>of all way up and it feels like, like I've

563
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:36.920
<v Speaker 2>explained it like this, if you were like laying on

564
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.880
<v Speaker 2>the beach and the waves crashed and the water started

565
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.079
<v Speaker 2>rolling up, rolling up the sand, I guess somehow. Let's say,

566
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:46.279
<v Speaker 2>if your feet, the bottom of your feet were cut

567
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.079
<v Speaker 2>open and the water could run through your body, it

568
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>was just if it just kept flowing right through you.

569
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>And that started happening. And then as it blew up

570
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:58.359
<v Speaker 2>like out of my head right before that, as this

571
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>is happening, those screens away, and all I see is

572
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Speaker 2>just the eclipse all by itself. And then it starts

573
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:07.640
<v Speaker 2>to come apart, but not from like right to left

574
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>like we normally see, just like Toast's headdress with the

575
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>crescent moon in the sun. It starts to separate, and

576
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>it looks just like that for a few seconds. You

577
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 2>see more of the white crescent of the white and

578
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:24.119
<v Speaker 2>the black moving, and then all of a sudden, it

579
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>completely separates and it goes away and you have this

580
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>glowing white light, and all of a sudden, it's like, phew.

581
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.599
<v Speaker 2>It's as if like someone put a trigger up to

582
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>your head and pulled it. You see this, and like

583
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>literally feels like the pressure that I have been pushing

584
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.640
<v Speaker 2>on my third eye that whole time, Like all of

585
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:43.759
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it switched polarity, and now everything that I've

586
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>been pushing is now coming back at me. And all

587
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, it's like you even feel like something

588
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>in my third eye around my head like crack or explode,

589
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and like all of a sudden, it was just complete

590
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>white light. And then I felt as if like I

591
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.039
<v Speaker 2>burst into like a thousand butterflies, and all of a sudden,

592
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 2>it felt like my whole body and my whole self

593
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.519
<v Speaker 2>just started stretching the fuck out and fluttering. And then

594
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 2>like I just is gonna sound crazy, but like I've

595
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>wondered about what the pictures NASA is showing you, because

596
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>that's basically the shit that I saw when I was

597
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 2>out there, right, it's gonna look like it looked like

598
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 2>a lot of like out of space to me, and

599
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you're not there, but like he's even at one point

600
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.160
<v Speaker 2>it felt like a little bit like two thousand and

601
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>one where they're showing the ending and they're showing like

602
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>that plane and everything like kind of like stretching out.

603
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 2>It almost literally felt like that I was just being

604
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>stretched down to the fabric of reality. But like as

605
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 2>that was happening, all I felt was this feeling that

606
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.400
<v Speaker 2>normally what I would express here as love, but a

607
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>million times more intense. And like I've said this before,

608
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 2>no matter what drug or no matter what nut you bust,

609
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>it is never gonna feel the same as this. It

610
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.359
<v Speaker 2>is something that I've never end those feelings that I experienced,

611
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I have never felt them before except for this experience.

612
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>And long story short, after I had this experience, I

613
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.759
<v Speaker 2>had it a few more times, and from doing it,

614
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:19.599
<v Speaker 2>eventually he did end up in the hospital. I made

615
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.799
<v Speaker 2>a picture about it and put it up recently, and

616
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I have said this for the last fucking four years.

617
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>When I fuck with magic, my one pupil blows up

618
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>and the other one gets small. Same fucking thing. The

619
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>liver King's acting out on me. That's what You fuck

620
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 2>with magic enough, you will act like him. You will

621
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 2>act like Kanye West. You'll turn into Joe Biden. That

622
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>is my opinion. Those people are fucking with magic and

623
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that eyeball shit is a side effect of one of them.

624
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I had that happen to me. Doctors had zero fucking

625
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 2>clue what was wrong. Because I said, your eyesight's still good.

626
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.079
<v Speaker 2>They had me go see a specialist. But when I

627
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>was in the hospital, they were saying that either whatever

628
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I was experiencing was Mike. But I also had an

629
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 2>issue with my fucking blood. My hemoglobein was jacked up

630
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.039
<v Speaker 2>to nineteen point six. They said it's basically sludge. They

631
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 2>had to give me blood and they had to give

632
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>me a bag of sailing. So what I'm trying to

633
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.599
<v Speaker 2>get at too, I do think there is actually something

634
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>in your blood. Maybe it's like that Star Wars shit

635
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>where you got this whatever they call that crab medical

636
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but there's something. I had an issue with

637
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>that and my eyes and even now if I fuck

638
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:29.839
<v Speaker 2>with that shit or sometimes I can bring myself. I'll

639
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>bring myself to the eclipse and the movies coming. But

640
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I won't let myself blast off, not all the time.

641
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Even if I do that. When I open up my eyes,

642
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I've even shown pictures on Twitter, my pupils will change.

643
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

644
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>And if you think about Horace, the aion of Horace,

645
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 2>what does he do? He fights and flies? Yeah, I'm

646
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:57.039
<v Speaker 2>getting flight and fight both eyes. Yeah.

647
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, man, I've had similar experience answers uh when I

648
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:02.319
<v Speaker 3>took psilocybin.

649
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I can see see that's what freaks me out about

650
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 2>doing any of that. Ship now said, actually, what is

651
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen to me if I take that?

652
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:12.359
<v Speaker 3>But with psilocybin. And I don't know about the eyes though,

653
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 3>But I mean psilocybin is a long haul.

654
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a I mean not.

655
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Like a long haul but a few hours.

656
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Man.

657
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah yeah.

658
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.960
<v Speaker 3>And and and you you're feeling stuff and seeing stuff

659
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 3>and talking to stuff. Had a full blown conversation with

660
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 3>a cardinal.

661
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Will Yeah, like.

662
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.839
<v Speaker 3>Crazy, And I get I understand the rose I understand

663
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:43.359
<v Speaker 3>the roses.

664
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Uh. So I used to also do uh a practice called.

665
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't really I haven't really done it in a

666
00:32:53.720 --> 00:33:00.000
<v Speaker 3>long time, but uh, coherent breathing it's called uh and

667
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 3>it's very focusing and and you're visualizing things coming.

668
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that is important your head or vice versa. Yes, yes,

669
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>I think that is very important. So uh so, yeah,

670
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>it's it's one of those things.

671
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Like it's it's it's so confusing, right, and you especially

672
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:27.119
<v Speaker 3>as people that want to like I, I feel inherently

673
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 3>like a good person and I don't want to tap

674
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:36.000
<v Speaker 3>into anything not good, right, But it's super confusing because

675
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:40.279
<v Speaker 3>it feels and it doesn't feel good, Like you said that,

676
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.839
<v Speaker 3>that feeling of love that is also the feeling that

677
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 3>people that have near death experiences.

678
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I was going to get into people that.

679
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Like, how does how does that you know, how does

680
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 3>that focus in on NDEs? How does that come into

681
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 3>every time people see the light?

682
00:33:58.559 --> 00:33:59.359
<v Speaker 2>It's just love?

683
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 3>But is it a counterfeit or is that the same experience? Right?

684
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 3>It's one of those things again, This is one of

685
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 3>those one of those times I say that we don't

686
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 3>know shit. We don't know shit about anything, and we're

687
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 3>way outside our depth and we can interpret it the

688
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 3>way that we think we can.

689
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 2>But unless you've been I think I think we've been

690
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>sold a sham of what reality actually is.

691
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like so it's like one of those things

692
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 3>like where do you go with that? Man?

693
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Like, where does you go to? Where do you go

694
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.320
<v Speaker 2>with that? That's well, that was exactly how I started

695
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the podcast, I guess, right.

696
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>And so it's funny how this, you know, went into

697
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:57.559
<v Speaker 3>that because my literal question was like those unfamiliar with

698
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 3>the co rejects, what inspired you just start the podcast?

699
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

700
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:06.119
<v Speaker 3>And what does the name truly mean to you? That's

701
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:07.440
<v Speaker 3>exactly what I've written down.

702
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Again, Now, because I had that experience, I was

703
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.800
<v Speaker 2>just like, this is another thing too, and this is

704
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna sound so fucking corny, and I know it does,

705
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>or maybe some people don't think it is. I don't

706
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 2>know who cares, but it's very much it's gonna sound silly,

707
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 2>very much like the Matrix. Now, I'm not gonna wake

708
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 2>up and be like, oh, I know, Kung Fu, you

709
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:26.480
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like Neo and he's like, Hey,

710
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 2>you're going to open up your eyes and no stuff

711
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.079
<v Speaker 2>you didn't know prior. You're gonna open up your eyes

712
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 2>and understand things that have confused you before. There was

713
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.119
<v Speaker 2>times you know them, you know them here. Yeah, it's

714
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>like it's a knowing. It's like you're being told like

715
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you know now. It's not even like I think it

716
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 2>is a fucking knowing to where it's almost like I've

717
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 2>had visions to where it's just like you see all

718
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:51.360
<v Speaker 2>these all like these visions or all these like tarot

719
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 2>cards or all this stuff, and it's like, for some reason,

720
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 2>the way it's being strung along and you're visualizing it,

721
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh my god, I see what it's showing me.

722
00:35:57.760 --> 00:35:59.039
<v Speaker 2>It's fucking weird.

723
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 3>And not I'm not going to cut you off and

724
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.760
<v Speaker 3>go down some rabbit hole. But like I know people.

725
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 3>So I've I've had a experience where I died, but I.

726
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Didn't have it.

727
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have a traditional ND like you know, I didn't.

728
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember a damn thing right. But I woke

729
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 3>up and I just know shit and I can do shit.

730
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 3>So like I have enough, so I I feel energy

731
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 3>and I see it. Oh, I can see people's auras

732
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:40.079
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. I can tell when something's wrong. I can

733
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 3>all these things, but I.

734
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember anything.

735
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 3>Like so I had an experience, but I didn't have

736
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 3>an experience. And I've met other folks that have had

737
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 3>I call them non any NDEs, but they but they

738
00:36:56.280 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 3>definitely died right and then you know, had to either

739
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.880
<v Speaker 3>get resuscitated in some form or fashion. They don't remember anything,

740
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 3>but now they can walk into a house and know

741
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:13.199
<v Speaker 3>like if there's good or bad energy there, right, and

742
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 3>like in their gut, like they feel it that there's

743
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 3>remnants of that whatever the fuck that is. There's remnants

744
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 3>that have been pulled or opened whatever.

745
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So anyway, it was great, you know,

746
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>it was weird, like just another thing like even like

747
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:32.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know if like things change in

748
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 2>a person after they have these experiences. One of the

749
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.239
<v Speaker 2>reasons I even had sent myself to the hospital is

750
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>besides that feeling good, because my body just felt like

751
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 2>it was like a battery about to explode. I was

752
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 2>like feeling like okay, and I was like, you know,

753
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 2>let me drive two blocks of maybe three blocks down

754
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:49.800
<v Speaker 2>the road to the park and let me just walk

755
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 2>around get outside. Yeah, like touch touch ground. Yeah, I'm

756
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:54.800
<v Speaker 2>walking around to it. And it's like, Yo, this is

757
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna sound fucking insane. There would be somebody like me, well,

758
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 2>eventually would turn into the person. It would be like

759
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:03.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody walking their dog down the fucking like down farther

760
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:06.199
<v Speaker 2>to the walkway in the park, and it looks like

761
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 2>light fucking shooting up from the fucking ground, like turning

762
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>into a two dimensional picture and then popping into three D.

763
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Yo, what the fuck is wrong

764
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>with me?

765
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 3>I didn't I didn't take anything. Yeah yo.

766
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:20.599
<v Speaker 2>And that was another thing too. I swear this di

767
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna sound crazy. I didn't start smoking weed again until

768
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 2>COVID because I was like, oo, if I gotta fucking

769
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>go out in the world and deal with these fucking

770
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 2>crazy motherfuckers, I'm gonna have to start smoking again. I

771
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.639
<v Speaker 2>literally quit smoking weed for about fifteen years. So I

772
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:35.280
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even stoned when I was doing these rituals, so

773
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>like there was no drugs or alcohol even involved when

774
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I when I had these crazy effects, these magical experiences,

775
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>So that was even nothing. I can't even choke it

776
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>up to the fucking weed. I was like, I was

777
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 2>so between this shit. Yeah, so uh yeah. So like

778
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 2>even just that like just seeing things differently, things things

779
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>started coming into my head that I was just like, Yo,

780
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I believed it to be true, and I was like,

781
00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>if this is real, everything I've been told is a

782
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.639
<v Speaker 2>fucking lot about our existence, Like, are you start even

783
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>thinking if what I even experience is what I think

784
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.880
<v Speaker 2>it is? This isn't we've been believed to think that

785
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>this isn't normal possible? You know. One of the things

786
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 2>I do want to get into with you, and it's

787
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 2>something that I do when I have an opportunity, I

788
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.039
<v Speaker 2>do like to try to push this aspect because I

789
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:21.679
<v Speaker 2>do think it's truthful and if you're going to get

790
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:23.639
<v Speaker 2>involved in the shit, I think people should understand what

791
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.519
<v Speaker 2>the fuck they're really playing with. But when it comes

792
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 2>to magic, magic magic, like really my experience, I think

793
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>you are separating your soul from your body, and I

794
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:34.679
<v Speaker 2>do think in a sense you are actually having an NDE.

795
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:40.199
<v Speaker 2>The movie, my opinion, the movie flat Liners is real. Yeah,

796
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:43.159
<v Speaker 2>that is real because in a sense, I would just say,

797
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>let's say me and you had that experience through meditation.

798
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:48.280
<v Speaker 2>We just did it in a natural way. Their way

799
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 2>is a hat, cheat code or a hack. You know,

800
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.119
<v Speaker 2>they're using drugs and they're you know, trying to keep

801
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>themselves out for a certain amount of time. We go

802
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 2>into a meditation and we just click out here and

803
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.639
<v Speaker 2>there and then come back. I do believe that, as

804
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:03.119
<v Speaker 2>crazy as it sounds, if you really want to fuck

805
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 2>with magic and you want to have those same experiences,

806
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>you are actually fucking with life and death. Yeah, and

807
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 2>not trying to like sound crazier grift like, oh I

808
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.599
<v Speaker 2>got bigger bulls and the motherfucker I had no idea

809
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>what was happening at first. Yeah.

810
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.599
<v Speaker 3>And if you haven't watched that movie, it's an older movie. Yeah,

811
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:24.719
<v Speaker 3>the Flatliners watch it. It'll make your head explode a

812
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 3>little bit.

813
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 2>And every time they wake up like don't they understand

814
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 2>and no different shit kind of and then it ends

815
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>up turning bad, Yeah, because they start up using it

816
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:35.159
<v Speaker 2>and doing it over and over again. That's what I'm saying.

817
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 2>You end up turning into Kanye West.

818
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:41.039
<v Speaker 3>Really yeah, like wow, like just the correlations and the

819
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:41.960
<v Speaker 3>and whatnot.

820
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's man. Yeah.

821
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 4>I even think like if you start shit, you start

822
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 4>I think entertaining certain stuff and keeping the whole death

823
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.480
<v Speaker 4>and rebirth as literal, I think a lot.

824
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Of things might actually start making more sense in the

825
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>occult when you start actually wanting to entertain them. That

826
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.480
<v Speaker 2>might actually be literal and not just the phrase.

827
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it just shows you how fine the line is, right, Yeah,

828
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:13.559
<v Speaker 3>like to step over.

829
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.079
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't take much. No, I mean and that too.

830
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh never you not comparing myself to Jesus, but I

831
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>mean even that guy Smully said he died too to

832
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>have this experience, right, I mean they're telling you in

833
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:32.960
<v Speaker 2>religious books, this guy had to die to have that experience. Yep.

834
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 2>That the death thing. And because of those experiences is

835
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 2>what made me start to end my problems with my eyeballs,

836
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 2>started making me think, what the fuck's up with the

837
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 2>eyes and this shit? And that's when I started looking

838
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.119
<v Speaker 2>into the eyeballs and like really looking into them, like

839
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.159
<v Speaker 2>pictures of them and learning how they work, and like

840
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.400
<v Speaker 2>looking at certain things, and I was just like, yo,

841
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:57.679
<v Speaker 2>this is all There's a lot of occult symbolism in here.

842
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:00.599
<v Speaker 2>And then eventually ended up doing like a five or

843
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 2>six part series that I honestly wish I could redo

844
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 2>now because it probably be like two hundred times better,

845
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>just because me and the people on the show have

846
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 2>like learned so much more since then. But in my opinion,

847
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:11.599
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the biggest secrets of secrets in

848
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 2>occult symbolism is actually they do my opinion, the Catholic Church,

849
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:19.360
<v Speaker 2>especially during the Renaissance time. That's all those motherfuckers were

850
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.760
<v Speaker 2>doing was creating, like you're building shit or making stuff

851
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.119
<v Speaker 2>that was just representing the inside of your eyeball on

852
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 2>what's going on during a magical experience. Yeah, a lot

853
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 2>of it seems like it to me. I mean even

854
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 2>certain siguls you start looking at, You're like, wow, that's

855
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 2>exactly how light reflects off of your lens. Like even

856
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the all you know, Madete, I have the universal hexagram

857
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 2>on my arm. Depending on what your lens is doing.

858
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 2>At some point, it looks like that the Hubble telescope

859
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 2>reflects their light like that inside of it, the same

860
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 2>makes a universal hexagram in order to see the stars. Supposedly,

861
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:53.800
<v Speaker 2>that's what the light reflection is off the mirror is

862
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 2>inside of the telescope to see that something's up with that.

863
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 2>It's not all just Dixon demons.

864
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, so like yeah, like I mean people try

865
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.880
<v Speaker 3>to make this still black and white. Yeah, literally right,

866
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.679
<v Speaker 3>when it's so much of it's just gray. So it's

867
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 3>like in your research though, like what's the relationship between

868
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to figure out I guess spiritual warfare, let's

869
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Speaker 3>call it that, and a cult ritual, like how much

870
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 3>of what we're seeing is physical versus metaphysical in nature?

871
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, I think when it comes to ritual stuff, you know,

872
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.719
<v Speaker 2>this is really the best answer. Eventually I started having

873
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 2>these experiences without doing any rituals. But I do think

874
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.199
<v Speaker 2>some of that this does sound crazy, and the LBRP

875
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:55.679
<v Speaker 2>especially and maybe even the hexagram. I actually do think

876
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Speaker 2>you are mimicking your eyebles movements to have a magical experience.

877
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.320
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna sound crazy, but like I do your eyeball,

878
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>your pupil will open up from the four cardinal directions,

879
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 2>but when it closes, it screws closed. And a fun

880
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.519
<v Speaker 2>fact for people to may not know this, and a

881
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>question if this is why Croley even said magic is

882
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.039
<v Speaker 2>in the asshole or magic is in the butt. But

883
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.480
<v Speaker 2>your pupil is the same muscle inside your asshole, the

884
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.920
<v Speaker 2>sphinxter muscle. That's why it twists closed. So technically your

885
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:29.679
<v Speaker 2>asshole is in your eye. I guess, so.

886
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 3>That will that will screw closed eyes and assholes, right,

887
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 3>everybody's got so that will spin closed.

888
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 2>So now in the ritual, you're going to the four

889
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 2>cardinal directions and you're basically, you know, taking control of

890
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.119
<v Speaker 2>that area. And as you're doing that, and you're in

891
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>your black robe, like your pupil spinning closed, and then

892
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:56.639
<v Speaker 2>you're even getting rid of light pulling it in. It spins,

893
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:00.199
<v Speaker 2>and some people will put salt around their circle, your

894
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 2>area serrata, you'll start to grow crystal crystalline stuff around

895
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.599
<v Speaker 2>it too, it says, I know this sounds crazy, but

896
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:08.639
<v Speaker 2>I do think in some of those rituals you're actually

897
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 2>showing either opening or closing of the pupil, which then

898
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 2>starts to dictate light, which is exactly what you're supposed

899
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 2>to be doing in those fucking things. I know that

900
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.840
<v Speaker 2>sounds crazy, but I think a lot of ritual stuff

901
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.800
<v Speaker 2>like put it this way, after my opinion, after I

902
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>had a magical experience, I realized, for me, this is

903
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>where you really, I think, have to make a decision,

904
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 2>or this is where I think I will judged by God.

905
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Is a little hard, but I don't want to use

906
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>that phrase. But it's the easiest thing for pyb most

907
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.639
<v Speaker 2>people to understand. But at that point, this is where

908
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it matters who the fuck I am because

909
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 2>either I am going to go back and tell people

910
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:53.760
<v Speaker 2>about my experience and how you can have one too,

911
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.760
<v Speaker 2>or I'm going to use this experience to manipulate motherfuckers

912
00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:00.159
<v Speaker 2>and get mine. Yeah, because I think after you have

913
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:03.079
<v Speaker 2>that experience, you know exactly who the fuck you are

914
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 2>and how the fuck your mind works and what fear

915
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.440
<v Speaker 2>throw shackles on you. For me, I had to do

916
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>that was a big thing. I did a lot of

917
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 2>shadow work before this experience. I started looking at my

918
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 2>own mind and started figuring out why am I run

919
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.039
<v Speaker 2>on certain fears? Where the fuck did I get those from?

920
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Do I even agree with that shit anymore? And I

921
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.480
<v Speaker 2>just feel that, uh fuck, I figure ou where it

922
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 2>was going with that. Oh, that you will start to

923
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:31.000
<v Speaker 2>realize it is it when you start to For me,

924
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:33.599
<v Speaker 2>when I started realizing what controlled me, You're like, this

925
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 2>is every other person in the world. It's just somebody

926
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 2>has little buttons that maybe you have to push a

927
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 2>little bit harder. You'll know how to manipulate and make

928
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:43.199
<v Speaker 2>a motherfucker fear something, love something, or hate something. And

929
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.519
<v Speaker 2>I do think that after this experience, it was just

930
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 2>like for me, it's just like you're like, Yo, this

931
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.000
<v Speaker 2>is a where do you go from here? And that

932
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>was even some of the reasons why I even kind

933
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>of chilled out on doing this shit, because it's just like,

934
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 2>at some point after doing this and am I just

935
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna be like you know when I think I'm gonna

936
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 2>choose the asshole this time? Yeah, like you gotta yeah.

937
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.199
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, like, you got to a point

938
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 3>where you uncovered something that made you stop digging.

939
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was enough and now yeah yeah, and.

940
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:19.559
<v Speaker 3>Like, uh, let me let me ask you though, have

941
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 3>you ever felt like when you're in a state, let's

942
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:26.679
<v Speaker 3>call it that, where you're being that you feel like

943
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:27.599
<v Speaker 3>you're being watched?

944
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I felt like that afterwards, Believe it or not. It

945
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 2>was something that even made me feel like that, like, uh,

946
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>somehow the people may have known that I had that experience, right,

947
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.760
<v Speaker 2>it's just really weird to that And it was one

948
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 2>of the reasons why I didn't even want to go

949
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.760
<v Speaker 2>back to the place anymore. I know, it's gonna sound crazy,

950
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 2>because I was like, I don't want anybody even picking

951
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:50.599
<v Speaker 2>up on it because I was a little confused about

952
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck happened. I don't need some sick fuck

953
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.119
<v Speaker 2>telling me what my experience was. And then I'm like,

954
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.280
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, Okay, that sounds great and I want

955
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 2>to believe that. And before you know what, I'm being

956
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 2>pimped out of mind talked by somebody at the lodge.

957
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Because then, you know what happened tonight, like in Danger.

958
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I did feel all that after an experience. Again, these

959
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:10.840
<v Speaker 2>are the reasons why I didn't even want to go back.

960
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I just felt like there was like I just wasn't

961
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 2>a safe place. Yeah yeah, right, like or somebody knew

962
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:20.679
<v Speaker 2>or somebody knew there that something happened. I was like,

963
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I just don't want to go back. I'm good on

964
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 2>my own, thank you. So, So what that's funny.

965
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 3>I podcast is called broadcasting seeds. And you know what

966
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 3>I do, man, You've you've talked, You've talked, and so

967
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.079
<v Speaker 3>I just like to plant seeds in people's minds and

968
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 3>make them think about shit.

969
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Right.

970
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 3>So, so for someone getting started to wake up to

971
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 3>this type of stuff right.

972
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>In the world, and it doesn't matter.

973
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Where you're coming from, doesn't really matter because you're everyone's

974
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 3>coming from somewhere. You're talking religion, we're talking you know, good, bad, ugly,

975
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:11.880
<v Speaker 3>all of it right, even spiritually dangerous.

976
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Some people will look.

977
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:21.039
<v Speaker 3>At it in that aspect, right, Any rules, it's my

978
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:25.760
<v Speaker 3>military background. Any rules of engagement. Oh, like I had

979
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:29.400
<v Speaker 3>that that that you can share just to so people

980
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:30.280
<v Speaker 3>are safe. Man.

981
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Like, for one, you know, this is something I even

982
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of wanted to get into. And I think maybe

983
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit teetering what you were asking about too.

984
00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, when it comes to magic, if you

985
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:46.880
<v Speaker 2>want to start getting into black and white magic, and

986
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I even think that's like, you know, not the best

987
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 2>way to explain it. I think it's what I was

988
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:55.760
<v Speaker 2>doing at one point. Yes, I was very interested in

989
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.079
<v Speaker 2>trying to control and run the world around me. And

990
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 2>at some point when I started getting into more of

991
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:04.079
<v Speaker 2>the whole spiritual stuff, and believe it or not, when

992
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 2>I got into kabbala war, I started getting much more

993
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 2>into the idea of God and trying to figure that

994
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 2>out in my existence. I was more focused on me

995
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:17.760
<v Speaker 2>changing so I can have a magical experience with God.

996
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, if you want to get into white

997
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.639
<v Speaker 2>and black or manipulating or not, I think that is

998
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.840
<v Speaker 2>a difference that instead of pushing my will onto the

999
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.159
<v Speaker 2>world around me, I'm just trying to change myself to

1000
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 2>have an experience with God. Those are two totally different things.

1001
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 2>I think. Yes, I would say, if you really want

1002
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:42.079
<v Speaker 2>to get into magic and playing with that stuff, you're

1003
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>going to have to look at yourself. It's very much

1004
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 2>psychled social. It's not all as glamorous as you know.

1005
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Everybody would probably say who's has half an experience or

1006
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:57.039
<v Speaker 2>know what they're doing. Your first things you're going to

1007
00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 2>do is learn to meditate. That doesn't sound fucking fun

1008
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 2>to anybody. You know, You're gonna have to learn to

1009
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.760
<v Speaker 2>live inside your own head, just crazy as it sounds.

1010
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.360
<v Speaker 2>And I've even said it on the show, and I said,

1011
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 2>if it stops people from listening, you're gonna have to

1012
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.440
<v Speaker 2>stop possibly listening to ten fucking podcasts a day because

1013
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:13.679
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be stuck in your own head

1014
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.360
<v Speaker 2>listening to your own fucking words. You're gonna have to

1015
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 2>figure out why do I not like hearing my own head? Yeah,

1016
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:21.639
<v Speaker 2>you may have to actually learn to deal with that.

1017
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I believe it or not. What I'm getting at is

1018
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:28.760
<v Speaker 2>is not all like a rituals and glamorous shit. You're

1019
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to I think actually if you want to

1020
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 2>do the right thing and help out this world, it's

1021
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to be much more on changing you so

1022
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 2>you can finally hear God's voice. And my opinion, when

1023
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.760
<v Speaker 2>that happens, you're supposed to share that with people, yeah,

1024
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and will help them have their own experience. And again,

1025
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 2>like when I'm saying, I do think if you're going

1026
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.159
<v Speaker 2>to have that experience, you're gonna have to entertain you

1027
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.360
<v Speaker 2>might have to kind of die in a sense, And

1028
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I do believe it is possible that if you make

1029
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 2>that sacrifice, you may not come back. And not trying

1030
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.280
<v Speaker 2>to make that sound glamorous or edgy or you know whatever,

1031
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:14.559
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's the truth. So you really should think

1032
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.440
<v Speaker 2>about what you're going to embark on. If you really

1033
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.639
<v Speaker 2>want to fuck with that ship, you know, you could

1034
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 2>you could get into it in a wick away and

1035
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe just have some some fun and make it entertaining

1036
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:26.920
<v Speaker 2>or you know whatever. But if you really want to

1037
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:29.440
<v Speaker 2>fuck with that ship and understand how the people are

1038
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.400
<v Speaker 2>running this world, you're gonna have to do things. But

1039
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:34.480
<v Speaker 2>in ninety three percent of the population ain't willing to

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00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:38.880
<v Speaker 2>do yeah, you know, and then you're still gonna have

1041
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.400
<v Speaker 2>to worry about what am I going to do with

1042
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:45.559
<v Speaker 2>this understanding that I have now that I haven't had? Right? Yeah,

1043
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:47.239
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, you're going have to make sure you're

1044
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:51.079
<v Speaker 2>a very good person before you even get which is

1045
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 2>the shadow way.

1046
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<v Speaker 3>So I guess kind of the next thing it's like

1047
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:07.079
<v Speaker 3>at this time in our world, right, are we more

1048
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:12.039
<v Speaker 3>in like a mass spiritual awakening or are more people

1049
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:15.039
<v Speaker 3>deeper control?

1050
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I think both is coming. Actually, I think the people

1051
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 2>who are NPCs as sheep are just gonna fucking get

1052
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:22.599
<v Speaker 2>even worse. And I think there's going to be a

1053
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.119
<v Speaker 2>few It's starting to happen now. And I mean just

1054
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 2>even from my experience at the Cosmic Summit, even minus

1055
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the stuff I told you about from the templars, just

1056
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that is being entertained scientifically, and even just

1057
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>how people are starting to go places and research stuff.

1058
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:40.199
<v Speaker 2>I this may sound silly, but I do think we're

1059
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:43.880
<v Speaker 2>on the precipice of like another occult renaissance. And I

1060
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 2>think it's actually very important that either we we do

1061
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:48.159
<v Speaker 2>it die at this point, you know. But I do

1062
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:50.800
<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna happen. I do think stuff is going

1063
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.440
<v Speaker 2>to start coming out where the mass population is gonna

1064
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 2>have to start questioning what the fuck is like. Maybe

1065
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 2>we haven't under really understood everything that we've been told.

1066
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this world is a little bit more magical. It

1067
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 2>will pibly be presented in a scientific way, which I

1068
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.360
<v Speaker 2>think is probably the easiest way for humans to be

1069
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.280
<v Speaker 2>able to accept shit's a little bit weirder than we

1070
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 2>thought because science told us right. But the thing is,

1071
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>if you saw looking at some of the weird shit

1072
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:18.239
<v Speaker 2>scientists are even getting into, if magicians or ocultists were

1073
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 2>to talk to each other, if they're to drop their

1074
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 2>fucking egos on both sides and actually talk to each other,

1075
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 2>they changed the fucking world in a few years because

1076
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 2>they're both looking at the same shit. So I do

1077
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.400
<v Speaker 2>think at some point, even people like myself, I luckily

1078
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 2>come across people that are like kind of in the

1079
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.480
<v Speaker 2>academic world to take shit for some reason out of

1080
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.400
<v Speaker 2>my mouth serious that like, they are starting to see that,

1081
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:43.280
<v Speaker 2>like there is a correlation here, and I see it

1082
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 2>happening with more people, And I do think we're we're

1083
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.719
<v Speaker 2>at a spot that I think eventually, hopefully within the

1084
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 2>next year or two, I think we will start understanding

1085
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.159
<v Speaker 2>more stuff or we're gonna perish and just get even worse.

1086
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.159
<v Speaker 2>But I do think we actually, I do think I'm

1087
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.360
<v Speaker 2>trying to think positive. Even when I was at the

1088
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Cosmic Summit, minus all the fucking templars and the Freemasons,

1089
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.159
<v Speaker 2>but minus all that some of the stuff that was

1090
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:11.599
<v Speaker 2>actually being entertained from an occultist angle, I was like, Wow,

1091
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I can't like this. This is actually promising some of

1092
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:20.480
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, you know, because like you're getting people that

1093
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.800
<v Speaker 2>you're getting people now that are actually like into like

1094
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:27.679
<v Speaker 2>they're studying the whole cimatics vibration stuff, and they're start

1095
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.239
<v Speaker 2>to realize that these things, Like they're starting to figure

1096
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.760
<v Speaker 2>out now that churches are made in certain ways that

1097
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.440
<v Speaker 2>even if the person's playing the organ, because of the

1098
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 2>way the church is designed, the fucking sounds going to

1099
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:42.039
<v Speaker 2>be different. So what you're playing and what's actually being

1100
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.880
<v Speaker 2>heard is completely different, and it's being done on purpose.

1101
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.920
<v Speaker 2>They're starting to realize that certain churches are either used

1102
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 2>to focus stuff or actually projected, and they're all on mounds.

1103
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 2>They're starting to realize now that old stuff from the

1104
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:58.360
<v Speaker 2>medieval times that they thought were castles were actually probably

1105
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.039
<v Speaker 2>power generator, Like the fact that this stuff is starting

1106
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to come up going back hundreds of years, you're gonna

1107
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:06.960
<v Speaker 2>have to start asking how the fuck did these people

1108
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.840
<v Speaker 2>know how to do this? Right? And I think that

1109
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:12.480
<v Speaker 2>is the stuff that's gonna start getting motherfuckers and be like, yo,

1110
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.440
<v Speaker 2>wait what we've known science for a while. And now

1111
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:17.519
<v Speaker 2>if you start going back to alchemists from the fifteen

1112
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:20.320
<v Speaker 2>or sixteen hundreds, they're drawing eyeballs and brains inside their

1113
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:24.760
<v Speaker 2>occult manuscripts and they're talking about sound and frequencies, you know,

1114
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:27.800
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna hopefully start going I do think there's a

1115
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 2>possible way that we might actually start going back to

1116
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:32.840
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of that and people might start waking

1117
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:34.599
<v Speaker 2>up a little bit. But I think the NPCs that

1118
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:38.119
<v Speaker 2>they're done. It's been done for a minute now. Yeah right.

1119
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I do think even that whole covid era was kind

1120
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.599
<v Speaker 2>of like we're gonna see who the function taught it was.

1121
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not gonna go down the spiracy rabbit

1122
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 3>hole this late in the episode, but I mean, dude,

1123
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:55.119
<v Speaker 3>all you have to do is look at like fluoride, right,

1124
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.400
<v Speaker 3>and we know what fluoride does to the pineal gland,

1125
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:01.719
<v Speaker 3>which is what we would call our third eye, right,

1126
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:08.000
<v Speaker 3>hydrofluorosilicic acid and those things and you know that were

1127
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 3>literally probably being poisoned.

1128
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Yo. If you look into why they even use that,

1129
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 2>why they started using fluoride, it was because it's too

1130
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 2>expensive they get rid of the poison. That it's easier

1131
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:19.960
<v Speaker 2>to just distribute it into water and let people fucking

1132
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 2>digest it and shut it out of pison. And they hear, uh,

1133
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:24.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like, what the fuck? Might it might

1134
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 2>help your teeth? Yeah, yeah, small doses will help your teeth,

1135
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 2>but when we want to get rid of it, it's

1136
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:34.719
<v Speaker 2>too expensive of a fucking thing to get like what what? Oh? Thanks? Yeah?

1137
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:38.599
<v Speaker 3>And uh and you know mind control.

1138
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it was the benefits, yeah, the benefits of

1139
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:43.599
<v Speaker 2>all that shit too. Yeah.

1140
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:50.559
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, all right, Nick, tell us again, where are

1141
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 3>the best ways to defind you?

1142
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:56.920
<v Speaker 2>And you know, yeah, uh, best ways if you're into

1143
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 2>video YouTube, Uh, knock on Wood has been doing pretty

1144
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:02.719
<v Speaker 2>well with that, catch a lot of lives on there,

1145
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:04.639
<v Speaker 2>So if you want to catch shows early before they

1146
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:06.280
<v Speaker 2>hit audio, you might be able to catch some of

1147
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:09.239
<v Speaker 2>them on there. Rumble and Bit shoot for video and

1148
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.480
<v Speaker 2>audio on all major podcasts you know, Sprinker Apples, Spotify,

1149
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>all those yeah, everywhere, my heart radio Deezer, you know,

1150
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:19.639
<v Speaker 2>fucking all the things of the stuff. Yeah, yeah, wherever

1151
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Spriker sends to. So yeah, I got all that, and

1152
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I have the Occult Research Institute dot org. Uh that

1153
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.360
<v Speaker 2>has a lot of the occult rejects on there, even

1154
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:32.880
<v Speaker 2>people that aren't necessarily in occult reject like I got

1155
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Mario from Symbolic Studies and a few other people that

1156
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:37.519
<v Speaker 2>have the you know, don't work. There's some people on

1157
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:41.119
<v Speaker 2>there that I've even actually done real scientific PaperWorks on orgone.

1158
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.440
<v Speaker 2>We got a guy Leon on there. So there's a

1159
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff on there. It's all for free to

1160
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.840
<v Speaker 2>check out. So check out a cult research Institute dot org.

1161
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's awesome, and donate, yes, yes please. Yeah, we

1162
00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:57.199
<v Speaker 2>got buy me a coffee. We got Patreon, I got

1163
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.480
<v Speaker 2>all those. You can even go. People can even look

1164
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:00.880
<v Speaker 2>at my patriot and I don't. I think I might

1165
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.000
<v Speaker 2>have one or two people, so so hook a brother up.

1166
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't even ask or advertise. That's another problem too.

1167
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a day song and I'm pretty sure

1168
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:14.360
<v Speaker 2>that's that's a reasonable to absolutely Again, thank you so much.

1169
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Thank you man. That was great.

1170
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:19.360
<v Speaker 3>That was a great chat and we'll do it again soon.

1171
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, sir, close your eyes, look into the darkness,

1172
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:37.519
<v Speaker 1>find the blazing star. Focus on it'll become the eclipse.

1173
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Don't feel that the show will be did and death

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<v Speaker 2>Very ish, I w