Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
Speaker 1: And welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, and we hear the
Speaker 1: show that talks about well computers, technology and of course
Speaker 1: the Internet and everything encompassing all of that. Just a
Speaker 1: couple of guys talking about tech. Hopefully we'll have some
Speaker 1: tips for you, stuff we could share. We got listener
Speaker 1: questions for today. And yeah, just the two of us say.
Speaker 2: If you can get to us today, Oh yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: you're having a problem with Amazon.
Speaker 1: People are with People are so confused, Sean, with this
Speaker 1: past week of course, in case you didn't know, there
Speaker 1: was an outage and people were just told it was
Speaker 1: AWS and they hear Amazon. They think Amazon is messing
Speaker 1: up with their internet. Can you kind of explain a
Speaker 1: little about why does Amazon have anything to do with
Speaker 1: the services that people use, whether it be coin base
Speaker 1: or Snapchat or you know, roadblocks or any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Why that affected so many people this past week when
Speaker 1: they had an outage.
Speaker 2: So when you connect to a website, you're pointing your
Speaker 2: computer at a name, Google, Reddit, Verge, whatever, whatever, whatever, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Tech Talk Radio whatever ONBS that you're going to that name.
Speaker 2: Your Internet provider points you to what is called a
Speaker 2: DNS server Domain Name Registration DNS. That then in terms says,
Speaker 2: oh you want Reddit, which is this IP address, and
Speaker 2: it provides that for you, and it connects you Amazon.
Speaker 2: So those websites host their content in the cloud or
Speaker 2: at storage servers on prem solutions, but they use Amazon
Speaker 2: for resolving that DNAs information.
Speaker 1: That's a huge that's a huge business portion for Amazon,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's billions of dollars a year, like billions, Like
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. And so a Amazon AWS East one, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's had had an outer and that is regionally right.
Speaker 2: So but that was a large portion of that DNS piece.
Speaker 2: So on October twentieth, twenty twenty five, AWS had a
Speaker 2: major outage centered in its US East one region, which
Speaker 2: is in northern Virginia. Many services that rely on that
Speaker 2: ADBs portion just didn't work, couldn't work anymore. The root
Speaker 2: of that problem was a DNS resolution failure. Basically, the
Speaker 2: systems knew where their data was stored, just couldn't find
Speaker 2: the street address. Basically, think of it like streets and
Speaker 2: addresses and stuff. They you just couldn't find it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: basically your computer didn't know where to go to find
Speaker 2: the information, and until it was resolved, you couldn't get
Speaker 2: down the street. I mean, it was a lot of websites,
Speaker 2: It was a lot of stuff. It was coinbase, it
Speaker 2: was robin Hood, it was banking information in the UK,
Speaker 2: it was Reddit was down, Snapchat was down, McDonald's was down. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're trying to play monopoly and you can't
Speaker 2: do not pass go.
Speaker 1: And even Amazon was affected by this.
Speaker 2: They even Amazon like your ring camera, your Alexa's Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy how much how decentralized this has become.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we tried to ask the Alexa something in the morning,
Speaker 1: is that I don't know what to do or you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: it was there, but it didn't know how to get
Speaker 1: that information because well they were they were affected by
Speaker 1: that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean I didn't even really notice anything.
Speaker 2: And I got a couple of emails from work saying
Speaker 2: some of some of our stuff was down. I figured
Speaker 2: it was just like a scheduled outage, but then I
Speaker 2: started seeing some more stuff because I wasn't able to
Speaker 2: get on Reddit. I just read it's down, big deal.
Speaker 2: I don't have any other social media, so I wasn't
Speaker 2: getting And then finally somebody mentioned that there was a
Speaker 2: huge Amazon outage, and then I started to pick up
Speaker 2: on a couple of things and did some some searching
Speaker 2: to see what was going on. But yeah, it's it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a global ottage like we had it two
Speaker 2: or three years ago regionally, so yeah, yeah, So, I
Speaker 2: mean it's a critical infrastructure. Literally everything you do on
Speaker 2: a data debate day to day basis in the US,
Speaker 2: it's tied to the Internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hands down. Even I know that Roku was down,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing. You know, a lot of people,
Speaker 1: at least for some a lot of people rely on
Speaker 1: that for their entertainment. And we've talked about this before
Speaker 1: about the need to have digital media versus having physical media.
Speaker 1: That having the physical media can be in case there
Speaker 1: ever is an outage that lasts a long time. The
Speaker 1: longest one was that one in twenty twenty one. We
Speaker 1: talked about that when it was like three days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and people weren't able to connect to certain things and whatnot,
Speaker 1: and that kind of reminds you, like, well, This is
Speaker 1: a good reason if you ever had to subsist without
Speaker 1: the Internet, but you have your devices, you want to
Speaker 1: use them to have that physical media. Yeah, it's it's wild, and.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's weird, it's it's it's hard to
Speaker 2: talk about this because it's piracy is not a big
Speaker 2: topic to talk about, but it's like it's forcing people
Speaker 2: to look at alternative ways to get media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, well, even with your own media. You know,
Speaker 1: in the case of well like services like Plex where
Speaker 1: you can easily use programs like the DVD Ethinic's Next Copy,
Speaker 1: where you could take your DVD or your Blu Ray
Speaker 1: and make a digital copy of it, store it on
Speaker 1: a device, connect it to your your router, your computer,
Speaker 1: or put it on your computer and then be able
Speaker 1: to access it. So you want to watch you want
Speaker 1: to watch you know, Lost in America or Into the
Speaker 1: Night or I'm talking to some of my favorite movies
Speaker 1: here American, Werewolf, London. You can easily do that without
Speaker 1: having to go find the CD or DVD and store
Speaker 1: it on your device. Just make a backup.
Speaker 2: So yep, my whole book. I have a bookshelf just
Speaker 2: off off screen here that has my DVDs on it.
Speaker 2: I have a physical DVD collection. It's not as big
Speaker 2: as it used to because I've gotten rid of some,
Speaker 2: but all of them are digitized. I spent most of
Speaker 2: COVID really doing just in rip in rep in rip
Speaker 2: and if you're interested in preserving your media from physical
Speaker 2: to digital, right make mkav will do Blu rays if
Speaker 2: you have a Blu ray, burner, Handbrake will do DVDs.
Speaker 2: Those are both free programs. They're both open source, so
Speaker 2: they're both great.
Speaker 1: You give me a little challenging to use, but once
Speaker 1: you get it, it's.
Speaker 2: Pretty straightforward, and they both have very very well fleshed
Speaker 2: out tutorials on how to do these things. The communities
Speaker 2: around these projects are very open to answering questions and
Speaker 2: there's tons of tutorials on it. It's almost point and
Speaker 2: click at this point. You put the disc in, you
Speaker 2: click burn, you pick the format you want, the resolution
Speaker 2: you want. Do you want it to have all the menus?
Speaker 2: Do you want it to have all the special features? Yes? No? Yes, no,
Speaker 2: yes no. Burn rep You've got a four and a
Speaker 2: half gig file for DVDs, upwards of eighteen to twenty
Speaker 2: gigs for a Blu Ray if you multi layer.
Speaker 1: So, I mean some people like to get the menu
Speaker 1: systems on DVDs, Like if they're going to make a
Speaker 1: digital copy, can they do that so it's not just
Speaker 1: the movie. They can have the interface so they could
Speaker 1: go to the menu system and say, I want to
Speaker 1: see behind the scenes, I want to see this. Is
Speaker 1: that possible for people to do?
Speaker 2: No, I've never tried it that way. I've never tried
Speaker 2: to do to burn a DVD to emulate it as
Speaker 2: a DVD in a player. I've just always ripped the
Speaker 2: VOB files for DVDs and then compress them into an
Speaker 2: MP four. So I don't know. I know that you
Speaker 2: can still just put a DVD into your computer and
Speaker 2: play it that way too, So if you're looking for
Speaker 2: that emulation, it's it's very easy to do. Maybe not now,
Speaker 2: Maybe not now, because hardly hardly any computer you buy
Speaker 2: now comes with a comes with a CD, any Blu
Speaker 2: Ray CD anything. I mean, you're hard pressed to get one,
Speaker 2: let alone. They make USB ones now and things that,
Speaker 2: so it's relatively easy to get them, but they're not
Speaker 2: a common thing in PC builds anymore.
Speaker 1: LG makes makes one. I know I've got a couple
Speaker 1: of them that I use and it saved my butt recently,
Speaker 1: which I'll tell you about coming up. But it's really interesting.
Speaker 1: There's a story that I read on one of the
Speaker 1: one of the tech blogs that optical drive demand has
Speaker 1: gone up with Windows ten. Retirement Japan was one of those.
Speaker 1: They found users switching to Windows eleven. We're buying up
Speaker 1: Blu ray drives to have inside the machines. So they
Speaker 1: go ahead and they whether either putting them in their
Speaker 1: machines or they're doing the externals. They wanted to have
Speaker 1: that capability to be able to watch their content on
Speaker 1: those devices, and they found that the sales went up.
Speaker 2: I think we need to go back since I started
Speaker 2: on the show and count the number of times that
Speaker 2: I've said there is going to be a analog revolution,
Speaker 2: not necessarily an analog revolution, but a a physical media revolution.
Speaker 2: People are going to there is going to be a
Speaker 2: demand back for physical media. And I think with the
Speaker 2: chaos of all the streaming platforms and you know, having
Speaker 2: to have ten subscriptions to get the content you want,
Speaker 2: and you know, the raising of the prices the game
Speaker 2: passed this stuff like that, it's like I just want
Speaker 2: to play my games. I just want to watch my movies.
Speaker 2: Like I can play all my stuff. I have the
Speaker 2: capability because I've I'm a little bit of a tech order, right.
Speaker 2: I can play Blu rays, I can play DVDs, I
Speaker 2: can play VHS tapes like, I can play all that.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people what the way of the
Speaker 2: DODO wants to have that stuff? Right? It's like they
Speaker 2: they said, a streaming is the next it's the best thing.
Speaker 2: Here's all my DVDs at a yard sale for fifty
Speaker 2: cents apiece and somebody came and bought them all up. Well,
Speaker 2: with this outage, you may have not been able to
Speaker 2: get to Netflix, HBO Max was down, so you couldn't
Speaker 2: you couldn't watch your content there. Again, with the way
Speaker 2: the licensing stuff works, it's like even when you're paying
Speaker 2: for Prime or Disney Plus, they bump you up into
Speaker 2: the next, the next tier, they raise your price. All
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you log in and you start streaming
Speaker 2: Malana for your your three year old, and you get
Speaker 2: served two and a half minutes of ads. It's like,
Speaker 2: whoa wait, I didn't think I was paid for Like,
Speaker 2: I didn't think my plan included ads on Disney Plus.
Speaker 2: And then you look and they say, oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: the price went up, you're not paying for that price,
Speaker 2: so you got shifted into an ad plan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what the heck. It's like, if two minutes
Speaker 1: of ads for a four year old, we'll just lose
Speaker 1: their interest compleatly.
Speaker 2: That's that's why we pay for YouTube Premium. Our boys
Speaker 2: like to watch YouTube. There. You know, there's a handful
Speaker 2: of shows. Nickelodeon has a couple of things on YouTube, Blippy,
Speaker 2: a handful of those shows that are on YouTube. Trying
Speaker 2: to watch any of that content on YouTube without YouTube Premium,
Speaker 2: without the ads, with the ads was a literally a
Speaker 2: miserable experience. And getting ads, it's just it's it's a
Speaker 2: it's a nightmare, and I get it. People don't have it.
Speaker 2: Not it's I feel very privileged to be able to
Speaker 2: pay for a handful of subscriptions to not have ads,
Speaker 2: and it's it's it's a you know, I understand that,
Speaker 2: but it's a miserable experience.
Speaker 1: And there was there was just a price increase too
Speaker 1: this week in case you didn't know. And it's weird
Speaker 1: they didn't really talk about it. I don't think they
Speaker 1: talked about it before they made the announcement, but Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers Discovery and now you know, there's big talk now
Speaker 1: about there's gonna be a sell or a purchase outright.
Speaker 1: Comcast is one of those that could possibly be interested
Speaker 1: in buying, but Warner Brother's Discovery. As of this past Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So the cost of your HBO Max plans gonna increase again,
Speaker 1: another increase if you get HBO Max Basic with ADS,
Speaker 1: which will allow you to stream on two devices simultaneously.
Speaker 1: So if you've got a household and your kids are
Speaker 1: watching in one or maybe you like a show and
Speaker 1: you know your your other half goes and wants to
Speaker 1: watch something else on that services monthly, it goes up
Speaker 1: a buck. Now we might not think not a dollar,
Speaker 1: but when you add paramount plus, when you add Discovery,
Speaker 1: if you're paying for that, when you add you know, Netflix,
Speaker 1: the Netflix, it's obscene. It gets crazy, it's obscene, and
Speaker 1: you don't you.
Speaker 2: Just don't realize it, and it's all just gross marketing,
Speaker 2: hostile marketing, and it's I wish sometimes we had digital
Speaker 2: digital rights like the UK does in some some instances,
Speaker 2: because that would shore up a lot of this stuff
Speaker 2: and get us on track to actual having actually having
Speaker 2: user rights to some of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people that would tell me, you know,
Speaker 1: they're getting rid of their DVDs, and they would say,
Speaker 1: it's okay, because that's streaming. I can find it anywhere,
Speaker 1: you know. I there's a website I love to go to,
Speaker 1: and you can check this one out too. It's called
Speaker 1: real Good uh, and it is a site you can
Speaker 1: go to and you can type in a movie real
Speaker 1: Good dot com and say you want to see this movie.
Speaker 1: When uh, the missus Bucket from Keeping Up Appearances died recently,
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I want to watch some of those episodes. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I don't have the DVD box set of Keeping
Speaker 1: Up Appearances. It's good British comedy and you go there
Speaker 1: and you find, okay, where can I watch it? It's
Speaker 1: only available on brit Box, but it's also available on
Speaker 1: the Roku channel, which anybody you don't have to have
Speaker 1: a Roku device to be able to watch a Roku channel.
Speaker 1: You could go ahead and just watch it there and
Speaker 1: you go They've got a guide you can go through
Speaker 1: and you could find it there on that that's so
Speaker 1: it's a great way to find out where a movie
Speaker 1: that maybe you liked or a TV show you like
Speaker 1: is available to stream, and it might be on Netflix,
Speaker 1: or it might be on HBO Max. But with the
Speaker 1: price going up, a lot of people are just saying
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous because they cut the cord and then
Speaker 1: they went Internet only, and they said, Okay, we'll get HBO,
Speaker 1: we'll get hu Hulu, we'll get Peacock, we'll get Paramount Plus.
Speaker 1: That covers pretty much everything. Right then they found out no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't, so they oh, let's add Pluto TV. Pluto
Speaker 1: TV it's free, or some of the other free services.
Speaker 1: But then with the added cost of all the subscription services,
Speaker 1: people are saying this is outrageous. Like if you do
Speaker 1: an HBO Max standard no ADS streaming on two devices
Speaker 1: the same time, it's one hundred and eighty four dollars
Speaker 1: a year, that's a lot of money for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. So you know, it just it all adds up.
Speaker 2: It does, and it's we'll never go back to the
Speaker 2: way it was with over the AIRTV because it doesn't
Speaker 2: reach anybody anymore, and that nobody sits at home, nobody's
Speaker 2: going home at four o'clock to watch Star Trek Voyager
Speaker 2: after they get off the school bus like I did
Speaker 2: growing up because I knew it was on at four o'clock.
Speaker 2: But that structure doesn't work for the majority of society.
Speaker 2: These days, there were always good, just really good shows
Speaker 2: re reairing at between three to five up until primetime,
Speaker 2: and then you hit your primetime stuff and then on
Speaker 2: Friday nights it was you know, Naked Night. On Friday
Speaker 2: nights it was Saturday Morning cartoons. Like there was set
Speaker 2: times that the world knew you were watching TV and
Speaker 2: they could cater. It's all about ads. It's all about money, right,
Speaker 2: It's all about ads. This is the entirety of this conversation.
Speaker 2: It's focused around how do we get eyeballs on money
Speaker 2: and and when you have content that is available twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven, three sixty five streaming anywhere in the world,
Speaker 2: it's it's just free money and an ad free service
Speaker 2: was so unrealistic and based on the amount of content
Speaker 2: these places are pumping out. You're paying big, big bucks
Speaker 2: for studio content, not network content. Not already invested money
Speaker 2: into an affiliate NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, whatever. This is
Speaker 2: a brand new production facility that's got to do these
Speaker 2: very very high level productions. And there's the expectation just
Speaker 2: kept getting high and higher. Right. You had these shows
Speaker 2: that when Netflix first came out, you had Stranger Things,
Speaker 2: you had Drive to Survive, You had all these other
Speaker 2: series that just lived on Netflix that you wanted to watch,
Speaker 2: and the expectation was it got better every time, and
Speaker 2: the expectation was, I'm going to pay the same but
Speaker 2: I wanted to get better. You can't expect it to
Speaker 2: get better every time and have it available to you
Speaker 2: all the time without it costing more money.
Speaker 1: I would rather, I don't know about you, but I
Speaker 1: would rather pay a decent price and have Netflix with programming.
Speaker 1: But now, like if you get on the Netflix, you
Speaker 1: get lost in the guide itself. It's like, gosh, what
Speaker 1: do I want to want to watch? There's so many
Speaker 1: options because they're paying for that programming.
Speaker 2: This is this is my opinion on how the Internet
Speaker 2: is right now. Everybody, every company that's on the Internet
Speaker 2: neet wants to be the center of the Internet. They
Speaker 2: want it to be. You come here to do everything.
Speaker 2: You come here to stream, you come here to play games,
Speaker 2: you come here to do social media. That's what that's
Speaker 2: what everybody wants. That's the focus of everybody's your eyeballs.
Speaker 2: And that's not how it was. That's and it's when
Speaker 2: you have that much marketing going into trying to keep
Speaker 2: everybody's attention on everything, and you have all these deals
Speaker 2: and it's so confusing for a consumer to find anything.
Speaker 2: I mean, this real good website is great. I just
Speaker 2: looked it up. This looks fantastic. But it's frustrating because
Speaker 2: a lot of the apps will reach out and look
Speaker 2: at these other apps and CEO, it's streaming here. It's
Speaker 2: not on here, but you can watch it on Amazon,
Speaker 2: and then you're like, great, I can watch it on Amazon,
Speaker 2: and then you click on the link rent or buy
Speaker 2: for two ninety nine or four. Well, now I'm frustrated,
Speaker 2: so let me go find it somewhere else where it is, Well,
Speaker 2: it's only available here. Well if I rent it now
Speaker 2: I don't own it. But if I buy it in
Speaker 2: six months, what if they re what if they pull
Speaker 2: the license and now I don't own it anymore.
Speaker 1: There was a real good documentary about Gordon Lightfoot that
Speaker 1: was done some years ago, and I wanted to watch
Speaker 1: it wasn't available anywhere except in Canada, and it was
Speaker 1: available in Canada for you to watch on the I
Speaker 1: guess it's CBC or one of those, so wouldn't let
Speaker 1: me watch it? Just turned on the VPN. Turn on
Speaker 1: the VPN pointed it, saying that it was a Canadian connection.
Speaker 1: You're not doing anything illegal. And I was able to
Speaker 1: watch it. And some people are finding out there's a website.
Speaker 1: There's another here. We're giving you some good websites today,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you've heard about this one
Speaker 1: Sean called TV dot Garden. If you go to TV
Speaker 1: dot Garden, it's pretty amazing because you can actually watch
Speaker 1: TV from around the world and it's free, so you
Speaker 1: can watch their broadcast channels, whether you want to watch
Speaker 1: something out of Britain, Italy, Spain, Greece.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 1: It has a globe and then it has you know,
Speaker 1: where where do you want to watch? And like I
Speaker 1: had to look, you know, because my family is got
Speaker 1: a background from Mignon mar Burma and I thought, what
Speaker 1: do they watch it over there? I wanted to take
Speaker 1: a look and I clicked out it and I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 1: look at this. This is a trip. This is what
Speaker 1: they're watching over there, like a news program. Out of there.
Speaker 1: You could see him from all the different countries streams again,
Speaker 1: TV dot Garden.
Speaker 2: This is insane. There's you can just I'm I was
Speaker 2: listening to you talk for a second, but I'm scrolling
Speaker 2: through just you can literally find anything on here.
Speaker 1: You know one of those stories I heard, do you
Speaker 1: remember Herve Villachet. I don't know if you know that name.
Speaker 1: There's a movie called My Dinner with Hervey that is
Speaker 1: really great, and if you ever get a chance to
Speaker 1: watch that, I'd say take a look at that. Hervey
Speaker 1: was a tattoo on the show Fantasy Island. And I
Speaker 1: read a story once about Herve and how he learned
Speaker 1: to speak English. He was from France. He actually learned
Speaker 1: by watching television, watching American television. Now, back in the seventies,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up, there was a lot of choices.
Speaker 1: Sesame Street you can you can still watch Sesame Street.
Speaker 1: You can watch Sesame Street, I Love Lucy. You could
Speaker 1: watch shows and reruns. You could watch shows like Emergency,
Speaker 1: Adam twelve, the whole bit, and you could pick that up. Now,
Speaker 1: I wonder if the same thing could be applied to
Speaker 1: TV dot Garden where I want to learn to speak Spanish.
Speaker 1: So you go to Spain or you go to Mexico
Speaker 1: and you watch what is streaming out of there and
Speaker 1: maybe help you understand the language a little better. It
Speaker 1: could be could actually be good and educational source.
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, you immerse yourself into that, that language and
Speaker 2: the help doc. I'm just blown away at this one's
Speaker 2: TV dot Garden. It's I mean, it's incredible which.
Speaker 1: You can find. There's a lot of good stuff on there.
Speaker 1: There's more stuff to talk about. I wanted to. I
Speaker 1: want to go over this one really quickly, though. Do
Speaker 1: you remember we were talking about driver Easy. I went
Speaker 1: ahead and bought it and I been able to put
Speaker 1: it on a system at work that was given us
Speaker 1: some troubles. I put it on my main system here
Speaker 1: at home. I've got one license still to use and
Speaker 1: it helps you find the drivers for your system that
Speaker 1: all at one time. But there's another one, and it's
Speaker 1: been around a while. It's been around a long time
Speaker 1: called win get. Have you ever used wing get wind? No,
Speaker 1: wing Get is a command line program. It's a wind
Speaker 1: It's called Windows Package Manager is what it is. It's
Speaker 1: safe to use, generally saying it's an official Microsoft tool.
Speaker 1: Not to get to it, what you'd have to do
Speaker 1: is use your command key, So down on your bottom
Speaker 1: search bar, you could type cmd. That's one way to
Speaker 1: get to your command button. There's other ways, and then
Speaker 1: you'll see a pop up and one of those options
Speaker 1: is select run as an administrator and then you type
Speaker 1: in wind get update and it will show you a
Speaker 1: list of programs that can be updated that you may
Speaker 1: have in your computer, like Adobe Acrobat, drop downloads that
Speaker 1: you may have had you not updated yet. Wind get
Speaker 1: will actually do those updates for you. So like Driver easy,
Speaker 1: this actually focuses on the programs that are a part
Speaker 1: of your computer. And I mean it's you can't go
Speaker 1: wrong with that. Again, it's wind get, so you use
Speaker 1: the command key to get to it, and again is
Speaker 1: part of part of your Windows operating system.
Speaker 2: That's I didn't know about that. Yep, that's something, but
Speaker 2: it's clever and I have a bunch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can actually do when when GETU I just
Speaker 1: just did.
Speaker 2: I just did. It's audacities out of date. Driver EASi
Speaker 2: is out of date. Wow, my Steel series stuff's out
Speaker 2: of date. My stream decks out of date, obs studios,
Speaker 2: out of date, Boy discards out of date.
Speaker 1: Don't do it while we're doing the show, please.
Speaker 2: Because it'll do a Windows probably. It's cool. So it's
Speaker 2: like just for those like who are interested in Linux,
Speaker 2: like this is pseudo app get we'll get you this
Speaker 2: or should we have to update, we'll get you the
Speaker 2: same thing and update libraries based on that's a similar concept,
Speaker 2: which is pretty.
Speaker 1: Cool, making it making it easier for you. Or we
Speaker 1: can take a quick break. We come back. A couple
Speaker 1: of listener questions we will share with you. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: yours that's standing by. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm sewan to
Speaker 1: wear it.
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Speaker 2: bed that has can move, can shift, can you raise?
Speaker 2: You have it down?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those are kind of cool, but they.
Speaker 2: Don't have an offline mode. And it always has to
Speaker 2: be connected to the cloud. Wait really, and so at
Speaker 2: three am when Amazon Web Services has an outage, your
Speaker 2: bed is now stuck.
Speaker 1: You're kidding me.
Speaker 2: I had no idea The AWS outage impacted some of
Speaker 2: the users. There are eight sleeps two thousand dollars. Pod
Speaker 2: mattress covers found their smartbeds had no offline mode and
Speaker 2: we're stuck at high temperatures or odd positions during the night.
Speaker 1: Oh that's not good.
Speaker 2: So you can only imagine like, oh, I'm uncomfortable. Let
Speaker 2: me raise up my bed and it's stuck. It's really hot,
Speaker 2: let me turn it down and stuck because it doesn't
Speaker 2: have an offline mode, meaning it's always calling to the
Speaker 2: cloud for information.
Speaker 1: Wow, So so is it okay? I know this sounds
Speaker 1: very you know, people will say, oh, you're just going
Speaker 1: down a different path there, But isn't that giving up
Speaker 1: a lot of your info how you sleep when you
Speaker 1: get out?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do we? I mean, I know, our TVs relay a
Speaker 1: lot of information, like what you're watching at night, what
Speaker 1: your what commercials? You skip over the whole bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: There was a tech a tech enthusiast that posted that
Speaker 2: said his pod locked itself nine degrees higher than room temperature.
Speaker 2: Back end doubters means I'm sleeping in a sauna.
Speaker 1: Oh eight sleep.
Speaker 2: Confirmed there was no offline mode, but they were rolling
Speaker 2: out a fix.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that's the thing. We constantly are looking
Speaker 1: at ways to connect, even our vehicles. You wonder, though,
Speaker 1: what path are we going down?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know, man, it's a had. I talked
Speaker 2: a little bit about this at work with a coworker
Speaker 2: about how do I explain the Internet to my children? Okay,
Speaker 2: because I've and you've experienced this too, I experienced it
Speaker 2: a little bit differently than even you did, right, because
Speaker 2: growing up the internet in my young room, you know,
Speaker 2: my preteens, the internet was very much non a thing.
Speaker 2: It was very hard to come by. It was only
Speaker 2: dial up, it was only it was expensive, and so
Speaker 2: we just didn't have it. And then getting into grade school,
Speaker 2: I you know, we had basic internet connectivity, got introduced
Speaker 2: to you know, number mounchers on the Max and you
Speaker 2: know games on you know the five, you know the
Speaker 2: five at a Quarridge floppies and stuff like that. But
Speaker 2: then into junior, junior, and senior high school, slowly got
Speaker 2: into the Internet, learning what search engines were, and learning
Speaker 2: what chat rooms were, and learning what you know, the
Speaker 2: shadier sides of the Internet were as a teenager and
Speaker 2: having to go to the library to get connected because
Speaker 2: the Internet at home was not good enough, and spending
Speaker 2: that time figuring out what the Internet was. Now, how
Speaker 2: do I explain that to Max when he can just
Speaker 2: sit at the computer and have everything availed to him.
Speaker 2: You're right, right If I if I gathered up a
Speaker 2: dozen of my friends from high school and said, ha,
Speaker 2: do you remember that strong bad video from Homestar Runner,
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna know what that is. Do you remember playing
Speaker 2: flash games? I know by No Black Sheep or Ebom's
Speaker 2: World Flash Games right, or you know playing Uker on
Speaker 2: Yahoo Games or chatting on al and Semessenger. It was
Speaker 2: a shared Internet experience. Nobody has that now because it's
Speaker 2: it's so user customers customizable that it's it's become its
Speaker 2: own world. Everybody has a unique experience now. And I
Speaker 2: just feel like, to me, that's the nostalgia of the Internet.
Speaker 2: It's for me is I knew what my friends were
Speaker 2: doing on the Internet all the time. I knew that
Speaker 2: I could go into AOL messenger and talk to my friends.
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of community building there. Now, communities
Speaker 2: are much larger now and they're worldwide now, so it's like,
Speaker 2: it's just weird to see that transition. But how do
Speaker 2: I explain that to Max? How do I get him
Speaker 2: into the Internet safely and curiously but safely?
Speaker 1: You know, I was just thinking about your talking about this, Sean,
Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, when I learned to drive,
Speaker 1: the warning came out from my parents, never pick up hitchhikers.
Speaker 1: I remember in the late sixties going to San Francisco
Speaker 1: with my parents in our station wagon, driving back, my
Speaker 1: dad pulling over to pick up a couple of hitchhikers
Speaker 1: that were in military uniforms. You would never ever think
Speaker 1: about doing that today. Turned out they had just gotten
Speaker 1: back from Vietnam and they were, you know, they were
Speaker 1: working their way to get back to Los Angeles. Luckily
Speaker 1: we were going that way and learned some things. I
Speaker 1: don't remember. I was too young, but you wouldn't do
Speaker 1: that these days. And now that's become the Internet danger
Speaker 1: where you don't pick up, you know, strangers on the road.
Speaker 1: Now you don't communicate with strangers on the Internet. That's
Speaker 1: the new danger zone. Sean to talk to the kids
Speaker 1: about don't do this, don't do that, and that's gonna
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get even stronger now they're worried
Speaker 1: about telling the kids about AI and how to use
Speaker 1: AI and not to get in trouble in school and
Speaker 1: how to learn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's weird to think that in twenty
Speaker 2: years the Internet has changed that much, twenty five years
Speaker 2: since I've really been a user of the Internet, and
Speaker 2: how much it's changed for my generation and then Max's generation.
Speaker 2: It's just it's wild. And even even through major world
Speaker 2: events like COVID that changed how a lot of people
Speaker 2: viewed the Internet. So you have kids that are graduating
Speaker 2: from high school for college that lived through COVID, and
Speaker 2: even their experience is different, and how they see the
Speaker 2: Internet and how they approach it and how they approach
Speaker 2: classroom learning. And so it's so weird how mentally challenging
Speaker 2: the Internet can be, and how from a society perspective,
Speaker 2: how a important it is because it's literally the connectivity
Speaker 2: of the world right now, and to how dangerous that is.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get my grandson. I've heard a story
Speaker 1: of study the other day about the Internet and how
Speaker 1: numbers are coming down when it comes to mathematics, when
Speaker 1: it comes to writing, when it comes to reading, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to get him into reading because that was
Speaker 1: what pulled me, you know, as a I love reading.
Speaker 1: I love always loved reading. So I wanted to find
Speaker 1: like And the thing is, you can't just give them
Speaker 1: a book and say here, read.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Many parents out there might be going, yeah, you can.
Speaker 1: You can't because they're so distracted by technology that I
Speaker 1: want to find a way for technology to help with
Speaker 1: the reading. I don't don't know if that's possible.
Speaker 2: I believe you've hooked on phonics. Like, that's technology, right,
Speaker 2: It's the it's the CDs or the tapes that played
Speaker 2: and you read along with the books. That's technology. Right.
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks that technology has to be a computer. It
Speaker 2: has to be has to be the Internet. Technology is
Speaker 2: the advancement of the human Technology not just Internet and
Speaker 2: in electronics. Technology can be many forms. So it's like
Speaker 2: going back and using technology that isn't meet like computer
Speaker 2: related can be a huge part of that.
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, we got a listener comment. I definitely
Speaker 1: want to answer this from an This was on our
Speaker 1: Facebook page and it said, Hey, Andy, I want to
Speaker 1: search the questions and discussions on the tech talk radio
Speaker 1: site for advice about Windows eleven S mode, but I
Speaker 1: didn't see any way to search, and maybe that's something
Speaker 1: I need to start adding to the website. We're still
Speaker 1: working on changing our websit over to maybe a little
Speaker 1: more featured website, so hopefully that'll be coming soon, and
Speaker 1: says what am I missing? And then she added to
Speaker 1: that because I responded about what Windows was all about.
Speaker 1: She said, I recently purchased a new laptop with Windows eleven,
Speaker 1: and I'm not thrilled about Microsoft basically forcing us to
Speaker 1: stay in S mode where only Microsoft products can be installed.
Speaker 1: As you said, you can get out of S mode,
Speaker 1: but when then you can't get back in, which gives
Speaker 1: a person pause. I have malware bites virus software, which
Speaker 1: I like very much, but I can't install it without
Speaker 1: getting out of S mode, and the fact that I
Speaker 1: can't get back in again is intimidating.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: It scares a lot of people, says I like to
Speaker 1: use a Chrome browser sometimes, which you can't do in
Speaker 1: S mode. You have to use the Edge browser. So
Speaker 1: if I understand what you said, though, being out of
Speaker 1: it is not that big a deal. It seems to
Speaker 1: me as if it's just a way for Microsoft to
Speaker 1: force people to use their products. Some people would benefit
Speaker 1: from S mode. That would be people who are afraid
Speaker 1: of installing the wrong thing.
Speaker 2: And these are the people that bought the Windows XP
Speaker 2: for Dubby's books.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2: I mean it's Windows es MO. So for those of
Speaker 2: you who are listening that don't know what Windows S
Speaker 2: Mode is, Windows s Mode is basically a stripped down
Speaker 2: version of Windows that only lets you run Microsoft products.
Speaker 1: That's it. You going down upon the Microsoft Store.
Speaker 2: And you get Edge, that's it. So it just it's
Speaker 2: sandboxed you a little bit. You can still get out
Speaker 2: to the internet, but it's not gonna let you install files.
Speaker 2: It's maybe it's gonna be good for a kid, but
Speaker 2: any any kid that has any sort of technological curiosity
Speaker 2: is gonna work around that in a heartbeat. Yeah the
Speaker 2: five I just googled it, Okay, can't do that in
Speaker 2: S mode. Stronger security, faster performance, longer battery life, simpler management,
Speaker 2: those are the things. But again, if you want to
Speaker 2: use Chrome, or if you want to get customizable, you
Speaker 2: gotta get on a mode.
Speaker 1: Third party programs you may not be able to run
Speaker 1: if they're not in the Microsoft Store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why might you not want S mode? Right? You
Speaker 2: can't install apps outside of the Microsoft Store, No Chrome, Steam, Discord, Photoshop, anything.
Speaker 2: And it says once you get out of a S mode,
Speaker 2: there's no way back. That is kind of scary, right
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 1: I had bought a laptop for my daughter, and you'll
Speaker 1: find these general You'll find S mode generally on some
Speaker 1: of the lower priced, basic, you know, entry level laptops.
Speaker 1: And I had bought one for my daughter who's going
Speaker 1: to school in Phoenix, and it was grown up, but
Speaker 1: it had S mode on it. So when I reached
Speaker 1: out there, I said, listen, I'm going to remove S
Speaker 1: mode on this because you don't need it. You know,
Speaker 1: you know the basics, you know this, I can do this.
Speaker 1: When I told her you couldn't run Google on it,
Speaker 1: you know, she was like, wait a minute, forget it,
Speaker 1: you know, because that's what she had been used to.
Speaker 1: So again, S mode can be confusing and scary, but
Speaker 1: I don't there may be a certain amount of you
Speaker 1: that may benefit from using S mode. But generally I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe if you have elderly parents that just
Speaker 2: need to use the internet for their email and to
Speaker 2: watch Netflix or some streaming apps, great, no problem. It's
Speaker 2: going to stop it from download and road programs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I missed the calls from my mom. My mom's
Speaker 1: no longer with us, but I miss those calls. What
Speaker 1: does this pop up? Andrew? Do I need this program? Andrew?
Speaker 1: I just want to play my solitaire Andrew. So Yeah.
Speaker 2: Having a mom who was a little bit more technical savvy, yeah,
Speaker 2: she solved a lot of her own problems, which is great.
Speaker 2: My dad, on the other hand, not so much. My
Speaker 2: in laws are a little technical inapt, but it's great
Speaker 2: I get to help them. I help them get a laptop.
Speaker 2: You know, I went through all the one drive stuff
Speaker 2: where it forced you into logging in, and it just
Speaker 2: Windows is in a weird state. And it's again full
Speaker 2: circle with the ads stuff we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 2: with the web streaming, with the video streaming, it's like
Speaker 2: that's they just want your eyeballs, right, they want to
Speaker 2: put ads in these places. In my inexperience with experience
Speaker 2: with computers and stuff, it's like going back to you know,
Speaker 2: started on Windows, you know, Windows ninety five and Windows
Speaker 2: ninety eight and Windows XP and Vista, and then once
Speaker 2: Windows eight came along, that was really the first realization
Speaker 2: that they could put ads in the home screen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now you click the start bar and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: there's an ad for a you might want to search
Speaker 2: for this based on your recent searches. It's like whoa
Speaker 2: hold on what?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 2: And then you know they skipped nine to ten and
Speaker 2: ten wasn't awful. You could customize your build when you
Speaker 2: installed it to say, feed me any of this garbage,
Speaker 2: and you could get a pretty stripped down version of
Speaker 2: Windows ten with just the install, the base install.
Speaker 1: Not evenmore. We got to take a break. We come back, Sean,
Speaker 1: I told you about a problem I had. I fixed it.
Speaker 1: I got it fixed. So when we come back, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what that problem was and how you may
Speaker 1: be having the same issue, tell you how to fix that.
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Speaker 1: That button and now back to tech talk radio. So
Speaker 1: I had a problem, and I even had a comment
Speaker 1: from somebody saying, you know, don't be so hard at yourself,
Speaker 1: because I thought I did the stupid thing I have.
Speaker 1: And I've mentioned this before. A computer in our studio
Speaker 1: that originally was Windows ten. I had built a Windows
Speaker 1: eleven computer. Seeing all this stuff was going to be happening,
Speaker 1: and I went to install Adobe the suite that I
Speaker 1: have that is phenomenal. I will say Adobe products are great.
Speaker 1: This Adobe Creative Suite five to five was phenomenal. Did
Speaker 1: everything I.
Speaker 2: Needed to do.
Speaker 1: I do video, I do you know after effects, I
Speaker 1: do publishing, I do you know audio editing? And I
Speaker 1: couldn't install it because it said I was installed too
Speaker 1: many devices went through the rigamarole with Adobe. They said
Speaker 1: they couldn't do anything for me. Their activation servers are gone.
Speaker 1: So I had to preserve this computer Windows ten. So
Speaker 1: I had to make the decision, well, how am I
Speaker 1: going to upgrade it to Windows eleven. So I started
Speaker 1: looking through it, looking at the computer. I made a
Speaker 1: clone of that drive, put that in the system. It
Speaker 1: booted up okay, and then I started going into bio
Speaker 1: saying oh, can I prepare this to update it to
Speaker 1: Windows eleven? And something? I did it just that was it.
Speaker 1: It would not load anymore. Tried the backup drive that
Speaker 1: would not load anymore. I thought, I've lost this. I've
Speaker 1: lost this ability to have that extra Adobe Suite on it. Well,
Speaker 1: as you know, I've talked about RUFUS and how RUFUS
Speaker 1: has just been great, has allowed many people that have
Speaker 1: not been ready to upgrade to Windows eleven yet to
Speaker 1: do an upgrade. And the only upgrade feature I could
Speaker 1: find was to update to Windows eleven on that computer,
Speaker 1: which I could do because I did it on another drive.
Speaker 1: I could do, but I would lose my programs. So
Speaker 1: I thought, well, how am I going to get around this?
Speaker 1: And I was reading about RUFUS and reading and I thought, well,
Speaker 1: look at this and in place upgrade. I could do that. Well.
Speaker 1: I tried and in place upgrade on another computer that
Speaker 1: I had here at the station, and it worked. All
Speaker 1: the programs there, everything's working, though, I'm going to try
Speaker 1: that at home, And then I thought to myself, no,
Speaker 1: you're better off fixing Windows ten. So I found my
Speaker 1: LG backup DVD drive. I found my original disc that
Speaker 1: I had for Windows ten, and I hooked it up,
Speaker 1: booted up to the disc and went into repair mode,
Speaker 1: and I thought, let's see if it can fix it.
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. Didn't change anything with the settings
Speaker 1: that I had been messing with in the bios of
Speaker 1: the UEFI. And it took two times. But then I
Speaker 1: walked out of the room while it said repairing the computer.
Speaker 1: And when I walked back, probably about a half an
Speaker 1: hour later, there it was Windows ten with the Adobe Suite.
Speaker 1: I clicked on it to make sure it's not going
Speaker 1: to tell me I have to, you know, reinstall or
Speaker 1: and it was fine. So I was able to save
Speaker 1: that computer. So now I have to make the decision, Sean,
Speaker 1: do I use that computer as my recording source in
Speaker 1: the studio because it has Adobe. I'm using Audacity now
Speaker 1: and it works fine. But use the Adobe and have
Speaker 1: that computer in the studio I've won in my office
Speaker 1: one of my studio, the one in the office is
Speaker 1: already Windows eleven. I'd have Windows ten in the studio
Speaker 1: with the Adobe Suite, or take the chance to do
Speaker 1: an an in place upgrade to Windows eleven, or just
Speaker 1: keep it Windows ten. Don't connect it to the internet.
Speaker 1: Just connect it to the network, you know, using an
Speaker 1: IP number and do it that way. What is gonna
Speaker 1: be my solution? What do you think? What should I do?
Speaker 2: Keep it Windows ten?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and risk Why risk it?
Speaker 2: It's not gonna hurt anything. If as long as you're
Speaker 2: running Windows Defender now war bites yep, and not doing
Speaker 2: something stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna be just fine. I only use it
Speaker 1: for recording, recording and editing, and you'll.
Speaker 2: Be just fine. It's so, it's a fun fact, right,
Speaker 2: I looked this up earlier. I'd read an article. So
Speaker 2: with the push to Windows eleven freaked a ton of
Speaker 2: people out around the world. Right, A lot of people
Speaker 2: were like, oh, oh my god, I can't I got upgrade.
Speaker 2: I got upgrade. Somewhere around sixty five million new computers
Speaker 2: were purchased or will be purchased, sixty five million. One
Speaker 2: of these tech blogs I just read estimates that there's
Speaker 2: four hundred million, four hundred million active Windows ten machines.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, four hundred million. Think about that. That's four hundred
Speaker 2: million processors, it's four hundred million motherboards, four hundred million
Speaker 2: hard drives. That's just a mind blowing amount of stuff.
Speaker 2: And to think that sixty five million of that's going
Speaker 2: to be brand new. What's going to happen to the
Speaker 2: sixty five million that they replaced E waste? I'm seeing
Speaker 2: all sorts of articles coming out that people are going
Speaker 2: to recycling centers, you know, computer recycling centers and hazardous
Speaker 2: ways and finding machines with early jen NI nine's, early
Speaker 2: gen early Gen I seven's with memory because people will
Speaker 2: just they don't they just don't know. They go to
Speaker 2: the store, and of course, I say, a good salesperson
Speaker 2: is gonna be like, yeah, you gotta go. You gotta
Speaker 2: go to Windows eleven. You can't stay at ted it's unsecure,
Speaker 2: And that's just the fear around that is. I'm skeptical
Speaker 2: about that, but that's how you get people to move forward.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, security compliance is gonna be good and
Speaker 2: it's gonna help, but I don't like the way the
Speaker 2: Microsoft's going around going about it. I don't think outside
Speaker 2: of this computer that I'm on now, I'll put Windows
Speaker 2: on another machine. Yeah, well this will be my only
Speaker 2: Windows machine. I have a couple of macs that I
Speaker 2: work on do editing on. I think I will move
Speaker 2: all by other ancillary stuff. I already moved one of
Speaker 2: my laptops, the Linux Mint, just to play with. I
Speaker 2: moved a Lenovo desktop that I had that was running
Speaker 2: games for for Max and stuff. I put that on
Speaker 2: Linux Mint. It's just I'm because that was part of
Speaker 2: the one, you know, moving to Windows eleven from the
Speaker 2: licenses that I had for Windows ten. Windows eleven Home
Speaker 2: doesn't have remote desktop, so I had to upgrade to
Speaker 2: pro to get because I was doing the upgrade from
Speaker 2: remote desktop. I ran the upgrade for Windows eleven, ran it,
Speaker 2: it rebooted, and then all of a sudden, it's like,
Speaker 2: you can't connect to the remote desktop. Before I didn't,
Speaker 2: did you have a keyboard, mouse or monitor? PUG didn't
Speaker 2: do it because I was just using it as a
Speaker 2: you know, a play server, just to put stuff on son.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I can't connect to it, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, what what's going on? So I did some
Speaker 2: research that that's just that kind of stuff is frustrating
Speaker 2: as a as a user is having an expectation that
Speaker 2: an upgrade, an up an upgrade that I'm paying for
Speaker 2: will include the things they already have in this version,
Speaker 2: Like I get it. Some quality of life stuff maye.
Speaker 2: You know, I can lose a couple of things down
Speaker 2: here that maybe I didn't care about, but they were
Speaker 2: features of Windows ten. But you can't have certain high
Speaker 2: level features and then not make them available in the
Speaker 2: next upgrade without going to another price here. That's just
Speaker 2: shady and frustrating as a user.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have been really frustrated
Speaker 1: with with Microsoft in that respect. And like you went
Speaker 1: the Linux on one of your boxes, you know, and
Speaker 1: other people have said, well, I'll go Mac, you know,
Speaker 1: and then they get into the learning curve and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's not the same ball of wax. If they've
Speaker 1: been used to using, you know, a Windows PC, well.
Speaker 2: For sure, Yeah, if you're jumping, if you've never I mean, okay,
Speaker 2: if you have an iPhone and you're a piece of user,
Speaker 2: it's going to be an easier transition to a Mac,
Speaker 2: right because the iOS functionality is very similar in terms
Speaker 2: of user experience that it is. Sign a Mac. You're
Speaker 2: gonna be familiar with icons, you're gonna be familiar with
Speaker 2: some of this stuff. But if you're an Android user
Speaker 2: and a piece of user and you're coming to a Mac.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be night and day different. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: trying to drive, like trying to drive a standard transmission. Right,
Speaker 2: you're gonna stalled a couple of times, and you're gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, have to try to learn how to stop
Speaker 2: at a stop side on a hill going up and
Speaker 2: try and get going again. So there's some some learning curves,
Speaker 2: but it's not impossible.
Speaker 1: But right, I mean, Max doing.
Speaker 2: Some stuff the same kind of the way. You know,
Speaker 2: they dropped Intel support. They they're dropping potentially dropping Rosetta
Speaker 2: going forward, so even older older software that runs on
Speaker 2: Rosetta for Intel translation between Intel and the new M
Speaker 2: chips that's rumored to be going away in a couple
Speaker 2: of next revisions. So it's just weird stuff that we're
Speaker 2: starting to get siloed again with acknowledge you either have
Speaker 2: to be Mac or Windows, and there's no you know,
Speaker 2: you can't be agnostic anymore. Like it's you gotta.
Speaker 1: Pick, you gotta pick which one? All right, here's something
Speaker 1: do you ever get on next door?
Speaker 2: Yes, occasion occasionally, So Caitlyn has it for our neighborhood.
Speaker 2: I put it on my phone for like two minutes
Speaker 2: and then immediately regretted it.
Speaker 1: Next story is almost and I see a lot of
Speaker 1: people commenting it's like Facebook, you know, but it is
Speaker 1: your next door and there's a lot of people who
Speaker 1: use it like we used to use Facebook. But I
Speaker 1: saw I've seen a couple of things on next door
Speaker 1: that I like, Oh, that's cool, you know. At somebody
Speaker 1: on next door was asking about room of vacuums, and
Speaker 1: there were some people who there that were keen on
Speaker 1: sharing some of their experiences. When it came to the
Speaker 1: room but vacuums, somebody said the pros the robot will
Speaker 1: love you and cherish you. The cons it could turn
Speaker 1: against you. I don't know how a rumba would turn
Speaker 1: against you, but this one I thought was pretty good.
Speaker 1: This guy has a name for his roomba for doing
Speaker 1: the two parts of his home. He said, the new
Speaker 1: roombas a guy named Michael who lives out in Picture Rocks.
Speaker 1: The new roombas will map your space, then vacuum in
Speaker 1: perfect lines. It even empties itself, which is true when
Speaker 1: it has finished its job. He said, we have two
Speaker 1: for different parts of our home. So he has two
Speaker 1: roombas and he gave them a name. These are their names,
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna name your rumbas, you can't go
Speaker 1: wrong with this clean Latifa and dust Ben Bieber. Another
Speaker 1: quick break. We come back. A couple of websites you
Speaker 1: might want to check out for websites of the week.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Andy Taylor, I'm Shana.
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Speaker 1: John is still having fun looking at the TV garden.
Speaker 1: TV dot garden is the website. You found a couple
Speaker 1: of channels while we were doing the show.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, distracted, What was the question? No, So I'm
Speaker 2: literally scrolling through thousands of channels from around the world.
Speaker 2: This is just the US. I'm a big motorsports fan.
Speaker 2: So mav TV is a channel that airs a lot
Speaker 2: of lower, lower tier race race circuits, a lot of supercross,
Speaker 2: a lot of motocross, supercars, you know, Australian supercars. It's
Speaker 2: on here.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: So I'm watching some really low low production value supercross
Speaker 2: race right now. That's on. That's the stuff that I
Speaker 2: like to watch when I just want to have someone
Speaker 2: on the background. So it's like this is inc this
Speaker 2: is a website that people need to know about like this,
Speaker 2: it's TV Garden, TV dot Garden. All right.
Speaker 1: Here, here's another one for you, Explore dot org. All right,
Speaker 1: explore dot org. If you remember a site that was
Speaker 1: very popular about ten years ago, Live cam, where you
Speaker 1: could watch live cams from all over the world.
Speaker 2: I do not need another distraction like this, Andy, This
Speaker 2: is the type of website I will spend hours sitting on.
Speaker 1: Oh no, and Explore on Org does it a little
Speaker 1: differently too. You can look all over the world and
Speaker 1: find out cameras that are in different places, maybe your
Speaker 1: favorite town, and see what's going on down your boulevard.
Speaker 1: But also they schedule cameras, so if you want to
Speaker 1: see polar bears at in the Polar region, you can
Speaker 1: do that. If you want to see airport operations at
Speaker 1: a large airport, you can do that and they'll schedule it.
Speaker 1: So tune in, you know, at ten am, you know,
Speaker 1: on this day and watch it.
Speaker 2: So this is something similar that Caitlin and I watch
Speaker 2: every year. It's the Katami National Park Fat Bear Contest.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's on here.
Speaker 2: It's on here. It's one that is one of our
Speaker 2: favorite things to watch because we track sit like we
Speaker 2: always like to try and fit pick our favorite and
Speaker 2: just track it and see. And then one of them
Speaker 2: died this year, so it was this big ding, like
Speaker 2: everybody's super sad about it. But they have webcams up
Speaker 2: in that National Park that just livestream these fat bears
Speaker 2: eating salmon on the river and like it's This is
Speaker 2: the part of the Internet that I love is the
Speaker 2: stuff like this where you could just somebody had an
Speaker 2: idea to go stick a webcam in the middle of
Speaker 2: nowhere with a satellite phone or something and get a
Speaker 2: relatively low resolution webcam back, but you can see what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you get.
Speaker 2: To track fat bears while they're fattening up for hibernation.
Speaker 1: All right, listen, we got to wrap the show, but
Speaker 1: two websites to check out explore dot org and TV
Speaker 1: dot Garden. Check those ones out. We'll be back next
Speaker 1: week with more info. And you've got a question with
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