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<v Speaker 1>The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, and we hear the

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<v Speaker 1>show that talks about well computers, technology and of course

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet and everything encompassing all of that. Just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of guys talking about tech. Hopefully we'll have some

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<v Speaker 1>tips for you, stuff we could share. We got listener

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<v Speaker 1>questions for today. And yeah, just the two of us say.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can get to us today, Oh yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you're having a problem with Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>People are with People are so confused, Sean, with this

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<v Speaker 1>past week of course, in case you didn't know, there

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<v Speaker 1>was an outage and people were just told it was

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<v Speaker 1>AWS and they hear Amazon. They think Amazon is messing

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<v Speaker 1>up with their internet. Can you kind of explain a

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<v Speaker 1>little about why does Amazon have anything to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the services that people use, whether it be coin base

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<v Speaker 1>or Snapchat or you know, roadblocks or any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Why that affected so many people this past week when

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<v Speaker 1>they had an outage.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you connect to a website, you're pointing your

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<v Speaker 2>computer at a name, Google, Reddit, Verge, whatever, whatever, whatever, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Tech Talk Radio whatever ONBS that you're going to that name.

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<v Speaker 2>Your Internet provider points you to what is called a

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<v Speaker 2>DNS server Domain Name Registration DNS. That then in terms says,

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<v Speaker 2>oh you want Reddit, which is this IP address, and

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<v Speaker 2>it provides that for you, and it connects you Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>So those websites host their content in the cloud or

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<v Speaker 2>at storage servers on prem solutions, but they use Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>for resolving that DNAs information.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a huge that's a huge business portion for Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's billions of dollars a year, like billions, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's ridiculous. And so a Amazon AWS East one, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's had had an outer and that is regionally right.

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<v Speaker 2>So but that was a large portion of that DNS piece.

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<v Speaker 2>So on October twentieth, twenty twenty five, AWS had a

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<v Speaker 2>major outage centered in its US East one region, which

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<v Speaker 2>is in northern Virginia. Many services that rely on that

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<v Speaker 2>ADBs portion just didn't work, couldn't work anymore. The root

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<v Speaker 2>of that problem was a DNS resolution failure. Basically, the

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<v Speaker 2>systems knew where their data was stored, just couldn't find

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<v Speaker 2>the street address. Basically, think of it like streets and

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<v Speaker 2>addresses and stuff. They you just couldn't find it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>basically your computer didn't know where to go to find

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<v Speaker 2>the information, and until it was resolved, you couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>down the street. I mean, it was a lot of websites,

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot of stuff. It was coinbase, it

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<v Speaker 2>was robin Hood, it was banking information in the UK,

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<v Speaker 2>it was Reddit was down, Snapchat was down, McDonald's was down. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're trying to play monopoly and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>do not pass go.

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<v Speaker 1>And even Amazon was affected by this.

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<v Speaker 2>They even Amazon like your ring camera, your Alexa's Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's crazy how much how decentralized this has become.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we tried to ask the Alexa something in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>is that I don't know what to do or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to do that. It was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was there, but it didn't know how to get

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<v Speaker 1>that information because well they were they were affected by

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<v Speaker 1>that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, I mean I didn't even really notice anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got a couple of emails from work saying

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<v Speaker 2>some of some of our stuff was down. I figured

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like a scheduled outage, but then I

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<v Speaker 2>started seeing some more stuff because I wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 2>get on Reddit. I just read it's down, big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any other social media, so I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>getting And then finally somebody mentioned that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge Amazon outage, and then I started to pick up

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<v Speaker 2>on a couple of things and did some some searching

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<v Speaker 2>to see what was going on. But yeah, it's it.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a global ottage like we had it two

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<v Speaker 2>or three years ago regionally, so yeah, yeah, So, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's a critical infrastructure. Literally everything you do on

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<v Speaker 2>a data debate day to day basis in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>it's tied to the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hands down. Even I know that Roku was down,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the thing. You know, a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for some a lot of people rely on

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<v Speaker 1>that for their entertainment. And we've talked about this before

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<v Speaker 1>about the need to have digital media versus having physical media.

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<v Speaker 1>That having the physical media can be in case there

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<v Speaker 1>ever is an outage that lasts a long time. The

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<v Speaker 1>longest one was that one in twenty twenty one. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that when it was like three days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and people weren't able to connect to certain things and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>and that kind of reminds you, like, well, This is

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<v Speaker 1>a good reason if you ever had to subsist without

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet, but you have your devices, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>use them to have that physical media. Yeah, it's it's wild, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's weird, it's it's it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this because it's piracy is not a big

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<v Speaker 2>topic to talk about, but it's like it's forcing people

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<v Speaker 2>to look at alternative ways to get media.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, well, even with your own media. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of well like services like Plex where

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<v Speaker 1>you can easily use programs like the DVD Ethinic's Next Copy,

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<v Speaker 1>where you could take your DVD or your Blu Ray

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<v Speaker 1>and make a digital copy of it, store it on

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<v Speaker 1>a device, connect it to your your router, your computer,

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<v Speaker 1>or put it on your computer and then be able

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<v Speaker 1>to access it. So you want to watch you want

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<v Speaker 1>to watch you know, Lost in America or Into the

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<v Speaker 1>Night or I'm talking to some of my favorite movies

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<v Speaker 1>here American, Werewolf, London. You can easily do that without

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<v Speaker 1>having to go find the CD or DVD and store

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<v Speaker 1>it on your device. Just make a backup.

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<v Speaker 2>So yep, my whole book. I have a bookshelf just

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<v Speaker 2>off off screen here that has my DVDs on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a physical DVD collection. It's not as big

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<v Speaker 2>as it used to because I've gotten rid of some,

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<v Speaker 2>but all of them are digitized. I spent most of

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<v Speaker 2>COVID really doing just in rip in rep in rip

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're interested in preserving your media from physical

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<v Speaker 2>to digital, right make mkav will do Blu rays if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a Blu ray, burner, Handbrake will do DVDs.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are both free programs. They're both open source, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're both great.

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<v Speaker 1>You give me a little challenging to use, but once

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<v Speaker 1>you get it, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty straightforward, and they both have very very well fleshed

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<v Speaker 2>out tutorials on how to do these things. The communities

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<v Speaker 2>around these projects are very open to answering questions and

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<v Speaker 2>there's tons of tutorials on it. It's almost point and

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<v Speaker 2>click at this point. You put the disc in, you

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<v Speaker 2>click burn, you pick the format you want, the resolution

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<v Speaker 2>you want. Do you want it to have all the menus?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want it to have all the special features? Yes? No? Yes, no,

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<v Speaker 2>yes no. Burn rep You've got a four and a

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<v Speaker 2>half gig file for DVDs, upwards of eighteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>gigs for a Blu Ray if you multi layer.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean some people like to get the menu

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<v Speaker 1>systems on DVDs, Like if they're going to make a

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<v Speaker 1>digital copy, can they do that so it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. They can have the interface so they could

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<v Speaker 1>go to the menu system and say, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see behind the scenes, I want to see this. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that possible for people to do?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've never tried it that way. I've never tried

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<v Speaker 2>to do to burn a DVD to emulate it as

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<v Speaker 2>a DVD in a player. I've just always ripped the

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<v Speaker 2>VOB files for DVDs and then compress them into an

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<v Speaker 2>MP four. So I don't know. I know that you

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<v Speaker 2>can still just put a DVD into your computer and

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<v Speaker 2>play it that way too, So if you're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>that emulation, it's it's very easy to do. Maybe not now,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not now, because hardly hardly any computer you buy

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<v Speaker 2>now comes with a comes with a CD, any Blu

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<v Speaker 2>Ray CD anything. I mean, you're hard pressed to get one,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone. They make USB ones now and things that,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's relatively easy to get them, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>a common thing in PC builds anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>LG makes makes one. I know I've got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of them that I use and it saved my butt recently,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'll tell you about coming up. But it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a story that I read on one of the

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<v Speaker 1>one of the tech blogs that optical drive demand has

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<v Speaker 1>gone up with Windows ten. Retirement Japan was one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>They found users switching to Windows eleven. We're buying up

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<v Speaker 1>Blu ray drives to have inside the machines. So they

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and they whether either putting them in their

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<v Speaker 1>machines or they're doing the externals. They wanted to have

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<v Speaker 1>that capability to be able to watch their content on

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<v Speaker 1>those devices, and they found that the sales went up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we need to go back since I started

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<v Speaker 2>on the show and count the number of times that

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<v Speaker 2>I've said there is going to be a analog revolution,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily an analog revolution, but a a physical media revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>People are going to there is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>demand back for physical media. And I think with the

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<v Speaker 2>chaos of all the streaming platforms and you know, having

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<v Speaker 2>to have ten subscriptions to get the content you want,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the raising of the prices the game

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<v Speaker 2>passed this stuff like that, it's like I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to play my games. I just want to watch my movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I can play all my stuff. I have the

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<v Speaker 2>capability because I've I'm a little bit of a tech order, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I can play Blu rays, I can play DVDs, I

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<v Speaker 2>can play VHS tapes like, I can play all that.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of people what the way of the

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<v Speaker 2>DODO wants to have that stuff? Right? It's like they

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<v Speaker 2>they said, a streaming is the next it's the best thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's all my DVDs at a yard sale for fifty

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<v Speaker 2>cents apiece and somebody came and bought them all up. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>with this outage, you may have not been able to

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<v Speaker 2>get to Netflix, HBO Max was down, so you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't watch your content there. Again, with the way

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<v Speaker 2>the licensing stuff works, it's like even when you're paying

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<v Speaker 2>for Prime or Disney Plus, they bump you up into

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<v Speaker 2>the next, the next tier, they raise your price. All

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, you log in and you start streaming

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<v Speaker 2>Malana for your your three year old, and you get

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<v Speaker 2>served two and a half minutes of ads. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>whoa wait, I didn't think I was paid for Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think my plan included ads on Disney Plus.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you look and they say, oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the price went up, you're not paying for that price,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got shifted into an ad plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, what the heck. It's like, if two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of ads for a four year old, we'll just lose

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<v Speaker 1>their interest compleatly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's why we pay for YouTube Premium. Our boys

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<v Speaker 2>like to watch YouTube. There. You know, there's a handful

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<v Speaker 2>of shows. Nickelodeon has a couple of things on YouTube, Blippy,

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of those shows that are on YouTube. Trying

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<v Speaker 2>to watch any of that content on YouTube without YouTube Premium,

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<v Speaker 2>without the ads, with the ads was a literally a

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<v Speaker 2>miserable experience. And getting ads, it's just it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>Not it's I feel very privileged to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>And there was there was just a price increase too

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast is one of those that could possibly be interested

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<v Speaker 1>another increase if you get HBO Max Basic with ADS,

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<v Speaker 1>the Netflix, it's obscene. It gets crazy, it's obscene, and

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<v Speaker 2>Just don't realize it, and it's all just gross marketing,

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<v Speaker 2>hostile marketing, and it's I wish sometimes we had digital

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<v Speaker 2>because that would shore up a lot of this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people that would tell me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, because that's streaming. I can find it anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>real Good uh, and it is a site you can

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<v Speaker 1>When uh, the missus Bucket from Keeping Up Appearances died recently,

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<v Speaker 1>Up Appearances. It's good British comedy and you go there

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<v Speaker 1>and you find, okay, where can I watch it? It's

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<v Speaker 1>You could go ahead and just watch it there and

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<v Speaker 1>you go They've got a guide you can go through

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<v Speaker 1>and you could find it there on that that's so

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great way to find out where a movie

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<v Speaker 1>is available to stream, and it might be on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>or it might be on HBO Max. But with the

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<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous because they cut the cord and then

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<v Speaker 1>they went Internet only, and they said, Okay, we'll get HBO,

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<v Speaker 1>That covers pretty much everything. Right then they found out no,

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<v Speaker 1>TV it's free, or some of the other free services.

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<v Speaker 1>But then with the added cost of all the subscription services,

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying this is outrageous. Like if you do

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<v Speaker 1>an HBO Max standard no ADS streaming on two devices

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, it's one hundred and eighty four dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year, that's a lot of money for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>It does, and it's we'll never go back to the

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<v Speaker 2>way it was with over the AIRTV because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>reach anybody anymore, and that nobody sits at home, nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>going home at four o'clock to watch Star Trek Voyager

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<v Speaker 2>after they get off the school bus like I did

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<v Speaker 2>growing up because I knew it was on at four o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>But that structure doesn't work for the majority of society.

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<v Speaker 2>These days, there were always good, just really good shows

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<v Speaker 2>re reairing at between three to five up until primetime,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you hit your primetime stuff and then on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday nights it was you know, Naked Night. On Friday

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<v Speaker 2>nights it was Saturday Morning cartoons. Like there was set

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<v Speaker 2>times that the world knew you were watching TV and

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<v Speaker 2>they could cater. It's all about ads. It's all about money, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about ads. This is the entirety of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's focused around how do we get eyeballs on money

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<v Speaker 2>and and when you have content that is available twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to seven, three sixty five streaming anywhere in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just free money and an ad free service

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<v Speaker 2>was so unrealistic and based on the amount of content

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<v Speaker 2>these places are pumping out. You're paying big, big bucks

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<v Speaker 2>for studio content, not network content. Not already invested money

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<v Speaker 2>into an affiliate NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, whatever. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a brand new production facility that's got to do these

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<v Speaker 2>very very high level productions. And there's the expectation just

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<v Speaker 2>kept getting high and higher. Right. You had these shows

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<v Speaker 2>that when Netflix first came out, you had Stranger Things,

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<v Speaker 2>you had Drive to Survive, You had all these other

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<v Speaker 2>series that just lived on Netflix that you wanted to watch,

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<v Speaker 2>and the expectation was it got better every time, and

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<v Speaker 2>the expectation was, I'm going to pay the same but

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get better. You can't expect it to

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<v Speaker 2>get better every time and have it available to you

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<v Speaker 2>all the time without it costing more money.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather, I don't know about you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather pay a decent price and have Netflix with programming.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, like if you get on the Netflix, you

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<v Speaker 1>get lost in the guide itself. It's like, gosh, what

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to want to watch? There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>options because they're paying for that programming.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is my opinion on how the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>is right now. Everybody, every company that's on the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>neet wants to be the center of the Internet. They

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be. You come here to do everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You come here to stream, you come here to play games,

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<v Speaker 2>you come here to do social media. That's what that's

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<v Speaker 2>what everybody wants. That's the focus of everybody's your eyeballs.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not how it was. That's and it's when

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<v Speaker 2>you have that much marketing going into trying to keep

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's attention on everything, and you have all these deals

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<v Speaker 2>and it's so confusing for a consumer to find anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this real good website is great. I just

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<v Speaker 2>looked it up. This looks fantastic. But it's frustrating because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the apps will reach out and look

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<v Speaker 2>at these other apps and CEO, it's streaming here. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not on here, but you can watch it on Amazon,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're like, great, I can watch it on Amazon,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you click on the link rent or buy

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<v Speaker 2>for two ninety nine or four. Well, now I'm frustrated,

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<v Speaker 2>so let me go find it somewhere else where it is, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only available here. Well if I rent it now

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<v Speaker 2>I don't own it. But if I buy it in

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<v Speaker 2>six months, what if they re what if they pull

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<v Speaker 2>the license and now I don't own it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a real good documentary about Gordon Lightfoot that

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<v Speaker 1>was done some years ago, and I wanted to watch

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't available anywhere except in Canada, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>available in Canada for you to watch on the I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's CBC or one of those, so wouldn't let

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<v Speaker 1>me watch it? Just turned on the VPN. Turn on

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<v Speaker 1>the VPN pointed it, saying that it was a Canadian connection.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not doing anything illegal. And I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. And some people are finding out there's a website.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another here. We're giving you some good websites today,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if you've heard about this one

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<v Speaker 1>Sean called TV dot Garden. If you go to TV

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<v Speaker 1>dot Garden, it's pretty amazing because you can actually watch

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<v Speaker 1>TV from around the world and it's free, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch their broadcast channels, whether you want to watch

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<v Speaker 1>something out of Britain, Italy, Spain, Greece.

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<v Speaker 2>It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It has a globe and then it has you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where where do you want to watch? And like I

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<v Speaker 1>had to look, you know, because my family is got

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<v Speaker 1>a background from Mignon mar Burma and I thought, what

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<v Speaker 1>do they watch it over there? I wanted to take

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<v Speaker 1>a look and I clicked out it and I'm like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this. This is a trip. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>they're watching over there, like a news program. Out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see him from all the different countries streams again,

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<v Speaker 1>TV dot Garden.

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<v Speaker 2>This is insane. There's you can just I'm I was

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<v Speaker 2>listening to you talk for a second, but I'm scrolling

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<v Speaker 2>through just you can literally find anything on here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know one of those stories I heard, do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember Herve Villachet. I don't know if you know that name.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a movie called My Dinner with Hervey that is

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<v Speaker 1>watch that, I'd say take a look at that. Hervey

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<v Speaker 1>was a tattoo on the show Fantasy Island. And I

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<v Speaker 1>read a story once about Herve and how he learned

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<v Speaker 1>to speak English. He was from France. He actually learned

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<v Speaker 1>by watching television, watching American television. Now, back in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, growing up, there was a lot of choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Sesame Street you can you can still watch Sesame Street.

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<v Speaker 1>You can watch Sesame Street, I Love Lucy. You could

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<v Speaker 1>watch shows and reruns. You could watch shows like Emergency,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam twelve, the whole bit, and you could pick that up. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if the same thing could be applied to

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<v Speaker 1>TV dot Garden where I want to learn to speak Spanish.

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<v Speaker 1>So you go to Spain or you go to Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>and you watch what is streaming out of there and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe help you understand the language a little better. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be could actually be good and educational source.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. Yeah, you immerse yourself into that, that language and

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<v Speaker 2>the help doc. I'm just blown away at this one's

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<v Speaker 2>TV dot Garden. It's I mean, it's incredible which.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find. There's a lot of good stuff on there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more stuff to talk about. I wanted to. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go over this one really quickly, though. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember we were talking about driver Easy. I went

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and bought it and I been able to put

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<v Speaker 1>it helps you find the drivers for your system that

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<v Speaker 1>all at one time. But there's another one, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>called win get. Have you ever used wing get wind? No,

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<v Speaker 1>wing Get is a command line program. It's a wind

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<v Speaker 1>Not to get to it, what you'd have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is use your command key, So down on your bottom

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<v Speaker 1>search bar, you could type cmd. That's one way to

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<v Speaker 1>get to your command button. There's other ways, and then

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<v Speaker 1>in wind get update and it will show you a

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<v Speaker 1>list of programs that can be updated that you may

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<v Speaker 1>have in your computer, like Adobe Acrobat, drop downloads that

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<v Speaker 1>you may have had you not updated yet. Wind get

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<v Speaker 1>will actually do those updates for you. So like Driver easy,

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<v Speaker 1>this actually focuses on the programs that are a part

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<v Speaker 1>of your computer. And I mean it's you can't go

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with that. Again, it's wind get, so you use

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<v Speaker 1>the command key to get to it, and again is

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<v Speaker 1>part of part of your Windows operating system.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I didn't know about that. Yep, that's something, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's clever and I have a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can actually do when when GETU I just

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<v Speaker 1>just did.

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<v Speaker 2>I just did. It's audacities out of date. Driver EASi

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<v Speaker 2>is out of date. Wow, my Steel series stuff's out

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<v Speaker 2>of date. My stream decks out of date, obs studios,

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<v Speaker 2>out of date, Boy discards out of date.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do it while we're doing the show, please.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it'll do a Windows probably. It's cool. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like just for those like who are interested in Linux,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is pseudo app get we'll get you this

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<v Speaker 2>or should we have to update, we'll get you the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing and update libraries based on that's a similar concept,

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<v Speaker 2>which is pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, making it making it easier for you. Or we

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<v Speaker 1>can take a quick break. We come back. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of listener questions we will share with you. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>yours that's standing by. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm sewan to

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<v Speaker 1>wear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Find us on the web at tech talk radio dot

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<v Speaker 2>com if you can get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck. Now back to tech talk Radio. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Alice Cooper, the original Technoe Todd and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So imagine it's three am, all right, and you're sleeping

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to get up and use the bathroom. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so you use an eight sleep product, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>bed that has can move, can shift, can you raise?

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<v Speaker 2>You have it down?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, those are kind of cool, but they.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have an offline mode. And it always has to

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<v Speaker 2>be connected to the cloud. Wait really, and so at

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<v Speaker 2>three am when Amazon Web Services has an outage, your

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<v Speaker 2>bed is now stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>You're kidding me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea The AWS outage impacted some of

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<v Speaker 2>the users. There are eight sleeps two thousand dollars. Pod

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<v Speaker 2>mattress covers found their smartbeds had no offline mode and

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<v Speaker 2>we're stuck at high temperatures or odd positions during the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can only imagine like, oh, I'm uncomfortable. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me raise up my bed and it's stuck. It's really hot,

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<v Speaker 2>let me turn it down and stuck because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have an offline mode, meaning it's always calling to the

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<v Speaker 2>cloud for information.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, So so is it okay? I know this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>very you know, people will say, oh, you're just going

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<v Speaker 1>down a different path there, But isn't that giving up

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of your info how you sleep when you

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<v Speaker 1>get out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we? I mean, I know, our TVs relay a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of information, like what you're watching at night, what

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<v Speaker 1>your what commercials? You skip over the whole bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a tech a tech enthusiast that posted that

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<v Speaker 2>said his pod locked itself nine degrees higher than room temperature.

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<v Speaker 2>Back end doubters means I'm sleeping in a sauna.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh eight sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Confirmed there was no offline mode, but they were rolling

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<v Speaker 2>out a fix.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and that's the thing. We constantly are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at ways to connect, even our vehicles. You wonder, though,

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<v Speaker 1>what path are we going down?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I don't know, man, it's a had. I talked

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about this at work with a coworker

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<v Speaker 2>about how do I explain the Internet to my children? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've and you've experienced this too, I experienced it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit differently than even you did, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>growing up the internet in my young room, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my preteens, the internet was very much non a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very hard to come by. It was only

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<v Speaker 2>dial up, it was only it was expensive, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we just didn't have it. And then getting into grade school,

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, we had basic internet connectivity, got introduced

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, number mounchers on the Max and you

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<v Speaker 2>know games on you know the five, you know the

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<v Speaker 2>five at a Quarridge floppies and stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>then into junior, junior, and senior high school, slowly got

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<v Speaker 2>into the Internet, learning what search engines were, and learning

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<v Speaker 2>what chat rooms were, and learning what you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>shadier sides of the Internet were as a teenager and

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<v Speaker 2>having to go to the library to get connected because

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet at home was not good enough, and spending

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<v Speaker 2>that time figuring out what the Internet was. Now, how

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<v Speaker 2>do I explain that to Max when he can just

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<v Speaker 2>sit at the computer and have everything availed to him.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, right If I if I gathered up a

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<v Speaker 2>dozen of my friends from high school and said, ha,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember that strong bad video from Homestar Runner,

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's gonna know what that is. Do you remember playing

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<v Speaker 2>flash games? I know by No Black Sheep or Ebom's

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<v Speaker 2>World Flash Games right, or you know playing Uker on

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<v Speaker 2>Yahoo Games or chatting on al and Semessenger. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a shared Internet experience. Nobody has that now because it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's so user customers customizable that it's it's become its

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<v Speaker 2>own world. Everybody has a unique experience now. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like, to me, that's the nostalgia of the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for me is I knew what my friends were

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<v Speaker 2>doing on the Internet all the time. I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>I could go into AOL messenger and talk to my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a little bit of community building there. Now, communities

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<v Speaker 2>are much larger now and they're worldwide now, so it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just weird to see that transition. But how do

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<v Speaker 2>I explain that to Max? How do I get him

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<v Speaker 2>into the Internet safely and curiously but safely?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was just thinking about your talking about this, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember, you know, when I learned to drive,

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<v Speaker 1>the warning came out from my parents, never pick up hitchhikers.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember in the late sixties going to San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>with my parents in our station wagon, driving back, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad pulling over to pick up a couple of hitchhikers

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<v Speaker 1>that were in military uniforms. You would never ever think

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<v Speaker 1>about doing that today. Turned out they had just gotten

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<v Speaker 1>back from Vietnam and they were, you know, they were

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<v Speaker 1>working their way to get back to Los Angeles. Luckily

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<v Speaker 1>we were going that way and learned some things. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember. I was too young, but you wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>that these days. And now that's become the Internet danger

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<v Speaker 1>where you don't pick up, you know, strangers on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you don't communicate with strangers on the Internet. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the new danger zone. Sean to talk to the kids

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<v Speaker 1>about don't do this, don't do that, and that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna get even stronger now they're worried

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<v Speaker 1>about telling the kids about AI and how to use

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<v Speaker 1>AI and not to get in trouble in school and

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<v Speaker 1>how to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's it's weird to think that in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years the Internet has changed that much, twenty five years

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<v Speaker 2>since I've really been a user of the Internet, and

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<v Speaker 2>how much it's changed for my generation and then Max's generation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's wild. And even even through major world

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<v Speaker 2>events like COVID that changed how a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>viewed the Internet. So you have kids that are graduating

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<v Speaker 2>from high school for college that lived through COVID, and

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<v Speaker 2>even their experience is different, and how they see the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet and how they approach it and how they approach

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<v Speaker 2>classroom learning. And so it's so weird how mentally challenging

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet can be, and how from a society perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>how a important it is because it's literally the connectivity

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<v Speaker 2>of the world right now, and to how dangerous that is.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get my grandson. I've heard a story

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<v Speaker 1>of study the other day about the Internet and how

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<v Speaker 1>numbers are coming down when it comes to mathematics, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to writing, when it comes to reading, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get him into reading because that was

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<v Speaker 1>what pulled me, you know, as a I love reading.

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<v Speaker 1>I love always loved reading. So I wanted to find

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<v Speaker 1>like And the thing is, you can't just give them

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<v Speaker 1>a book and say here, read.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Many parents out there might be going, yeah, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't because they're so distracted by technology that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to find a way for technology to help with

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<v Speaker 1>the reading. I don't don't know if that's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe you've hooked on phonics. Like, that's technology, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's the it's the CDs or the tapes that played

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<v Speaker 2>and you read along with the books. That's technology. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody thinks that technology has to be a computer. It

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<v Speaker 2>has to be has to be the Internet. Technology is

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<v Speaker 2>the advancement of the human Technology not just Internet and

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<v Speaker 2>in electronics. Technology can be many forms. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>going back and using technology that isn't meet like computer

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<v Speaker 2>related can be a huge part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, all right, we got a listener comment. I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>want to answer this from an This was on our

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook page and it said, Hey, Andy, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>search the questions and discussions on the tech talk radio

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<v Speaker 1>site for advice about Windows eleven S mode, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see any way to search, and maybe that's something

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<v Speaker 1>I need to start adding to the website. We're still

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<v Speaker 1>working on changing our websit over to maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>more featured website, so hopefully that'll be coming soon, and

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<v Speaker 1>says what am I missing? And then she added to

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<v Speaker 1>that because I responded about what Windows was all about.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, I recently purchased a new laptop with Windows eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not thrilled about Microsoft basically forcing us to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in S mode where only Microsoft products can be installed.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, you can get out of S mode,

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<v Speaker 1>but when then you can't get back in, which gives

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<v Speaker 1>a person pause. I have malware bites virus software, which

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<v Speaker 1>I like very much, but I can't install it without

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of S mode, and the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get back in again is intimidating.

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<v Speaker 2>It.

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<v Speaker 1>It scares a lot of people, says I like to

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<v Speaker 1>use a Chrome browser sometimes, which you can't do in

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<v Speaker 1>S mode. You have to use the Edge browser. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I understand what you said, though, being out of

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<v Speaker 1>it is not that big a deal. It seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me as if it's just a way for Microsoft to

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<v Speaker 1>force people to use their products. Some people would benefit

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<v Speaker 1>from S mode. That would be people who are afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of installing the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And these are the people that bought the Windows XP

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<v Speaker 2>for Dubby's books.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's Windows es MO. So for those of

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<v Speaker 2>you who are listening that don't know what Windows S

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<v Speaker 2>Mode is, Windows s Mode is basically a stripped down

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<v Speaker 2>version of Windows that only lets you run Microsoft products.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. You going down upon the Microsoft Store.

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<v Speaker 2>And you get Edge, that's it. So it just it's

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<v Speaker 2>sandboxed you a little bit. You can still get out

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<v Speaker 2>to the internet, but it's not gonna let you install files.

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<v Speaker 2>It's maybe it's gonna be good for a kid, but

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<v Speaker 2>any any kid that has any sort of technological curiosity

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna work around that in a heartbeat. Yeah the

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<v Speaker 2>five I just googled it, Okay, can't do that in

636
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<v Speaker 2>S mode. Stronger security, faster performance, longer battery life, simpler management,

637
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<v Speaker 2>those are the things. But again, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>use Chrome, or if you want to get customizable, you

639
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<v Speaker 2>gotta get on a mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Third party programs you may not be able to run

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not in the Microsoft Store.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why might you not want S mode? Right? You

643
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<v Speaker 2>can't install apps outside of the Microsoft Store, No Chrome, Steam, Discord, Photoshop, anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And it says once you get out of a S mode,

645
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 2>there's no way back. That is kind of scary, right

646
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<v Speaker 2>I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I had bought a laptop for my daughter, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find these general You'll find S mode generally on some

649
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<v Speaker 1>of the lower priced, basic, you know, entry level laptops.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had bought one for my daughter who's going

651
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<v Speaker 1>to school in Phoenix, and it was grown up, but

652
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it had S mode on it. So when I reached

653
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>out there, I said, listen, I'm going to remove S

654
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<v Speaker 1>mode on this because you don't need it. You know,

655
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<v Speaker 1>you know the basics, you know this, I can do this.

656
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 1>When I told her you couldn't run Google on it,

657
00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:58.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, she was like, wait a minute, forget it,

658
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, because that's what she had been used to.

659
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>So again, S mode can be confusing and scary, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't there may be a certain amount of you

661
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<v Speaker 1>that may benefit from using S mode. But generally I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe if you have elderly parents that just

663
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<v Speaker 2>need to use the internet for their email and to

664
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<v Speaker 2>watch Netflix or some streaming apps, great, no problem. It's

665
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<v Speaker 2>going to stop it from download and road programs.

666
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I missed the calls from my mom. My mom's

667
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>no longer with us, but I miss those calls. What

668
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.519
<v Speaker 1>does this pop up? Andrew? Do I need this program? Andrew?

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to play my solitaire Andrew. So Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Having a mom who was a little bit more technical savvy, yeah,

671
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.639
<v Speaker 2>she solved a lot of her own problems, which is great.

672
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.639
<v Speaker 2>My dad, on the other hand, not so much. My

673
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 2>in laws are a little technical inapt, but it's great

674
00:37:57.800 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I get to help them. I help them get a laptop.

675
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I went through all the one drive stuff

676
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 2>where it forced you into logging in, and it just

677
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Windows is in a weird state. And it's again full

678
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>circle with the ads stuff we were talking about earlier,

679
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>with the web streaming, with the video streaming, it's like

680
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:19.599
<v Speaker 2>that's they just want your eyeballs, right, they want to

681
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>put ads in these places. In my inexperience with experience

682
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 2>with computers and stuff, it's like going back to you know,

683
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>started on Windows, you know, Windows ninety five and Windows

684
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 2>ninety eight and Windows XP and Vista, and then once

685
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Windows eight came along, that was really the first realization

686
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<v Speaker 2>that they could put ads in the home screen. Yeah,

687
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.400
<v Speaker 2>now you click the start bar and all of a sudden,

688
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 2>there's an ad for a you might want to search

689
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 2>for this based on your recent searches. It's like whoa

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<v Speaker 2>hold on what?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know they skipped nine to ten and

693
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.239
<v Speaker 2>ten wasn't awful. You could customize your build when you

694
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<v Speaker 2>installed it to say, feed me any of this garbage,

695
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 2>and you could get a pretty stripped down version of

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<v Speaker 2>Windows ten with just the install, the base install.

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<v Speaker 1>Not evenmore. We got to take a break. We come back, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>I told you about a problem I had. I fixed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it fixed. So when we come back, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what that problem was and how you may

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<v Speaker 1>be having the same issue, tell you how to fix that.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up with tech talk Radio, I'm Andy Taylor.

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705
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<v Speaker 1>That button and now back to tech talk radio. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had a problem, and I even had a comment

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<v Speaker 1>from somebody saying, you know, don't be so hard at yourself,

709
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 1>because I thought I did the stupid thing I have.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've mentioned this before. A computer in our studio

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<v Speaker 1>that originally was Windows ten. I had built a Windows

712
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>eleven computer. Seeing all this stuff was going to be happening,

713
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<v Speaker 1>and I went to install Adobe the suite that I

714
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<v Speaker 1>have that is phenomenal. I will say Adobe products are great.

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<v Speaker 1>This Adobe Creative Suite five to five was phenomenal. Did

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<v Speaker 1>everything I.

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<v Speaker 2>Needed to do.

718
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I do video, I do you know after effects, I

719
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>do publishing, I do you know audio editing? And I

720
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>couldn't install it because it said I was installed too

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<v Speaker 1>many devices went through the rigamarole with Adobe. They said

722
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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't do anything for me. Their activation servers are gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to preserve this computer Windows ten. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had to make the decision, well, how am I

725
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<v Speaker 1>going to upgrade it to Windows eleven. So I started

726
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<v Speaker 1>looking through it, looking at the computer. I made a

727
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<v Speaker 1>clone of that drive, put that in the system. It

728
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<v Speaker 1>booted up okay, and then I started going into bio

729
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<v Speaker 1>saying oh, can I prepare this to update it to

730
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<v Speaker 1>Windows eleven? And something? I did it just that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>It would not load anymore. Tried the backup drive that

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<v Speaker 1>would not load anymore. I thought, I've lost this. I've

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<v Speaker 1>lost this ability to have that extra Adobe Suite on it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, I've talked about RUFUS and how RUFUS

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<v Speaker 1>has just been great, has allowed many people that have

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<v Speaker 1>not been ready to upgrade to Windows eleven yet to

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<v Speaker 1>do an upgrade. And the only upgrade feature I could

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<v Speaker 1>find was to update to Windows eleven on that computer,

739
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 1>which I could do because I did it on another drive.

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<v Speaker 1>I could do, but I would lose my programs. So

741
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<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, how am I going to get around this?

742
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<v Speaker 1>And I was reading about RUFUS and reading and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this and in place upgrade. I could do that. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried and in place upgrade on another computer that

745
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<v Speaker 1>I had here at the station, and it worked. All

746
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 1>the programs there, everything's working, though, I'm going to try

747
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 1>that at home, And then I thought to myself, no,

748
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<v Speaker 1>you're better off fixing Windows ten. So I found my

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<v Speaker 1>LG backup DVD drive. I found my original disc that

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<v Speaker 1>I had for Windows ten, and I hooked it up,

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<v Speaker 1>booted up to the disc and went into repair mode,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, let's see if it can fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows. Didn't change anything with the settings

754
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<v Speaker 1>that I had been messing with in the bios of

755
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the UEFI. And it took two times. But then I

756
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 1>walked out of the room while it said repairing the computer.

757
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<v Speaker 1>And when I walked back, probably about a half an

758
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 1>hour later, there it was Windows ten with the Adobe Suite.

759
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<v Speaker 1>I clicked on it to make sure it's not going

760
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<v Speaker 1>to tell me I have to, you know, reinstall or

761
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and it was fine. So I was able to save

762
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that computer. So now I have to make the decision, Sean,

763
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<v Speaker 1>do I use that computer as my recording source in

764
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<v Speaker 1>the studio because it has Adobe. I'm using Audacity now

765
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and it works fine. But use the Adobe and have

766
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<v Speaker 1>that computer in the studio I've won in my office

767
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<v Speaker 1>one of my studio, the one in the office is

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<v Speaker 1>already Windows eleven. I'd have Windows ten in the studio

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<v Speaker 1>with the Adobe Suite, or take the chance to do

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<v Speaker 1>an an in place upgrade to Windows eleven, or just

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<v Speaker 1>keep it Windows ten. Don't connect it to the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Just connect it to the network, you know, using an

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<v Speaker 1>IP number and do it that way. What is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be my solution? What do you think? What should I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it Windows ten?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and risk Why risk it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not gonna hurt anything. If as long as you're

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<v Speaker 2>running Windows Defender now war bites yep, and not doing

779
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<v Speaker 2>something stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna be just fine. I only use it

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<v Speaker 1>for recording, recording and editing, and you'll.

782
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Be just fine. It's so, it's a fun fact, right,

783
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<v Speaker 2>I looked this up earlier. I'd read an article. So

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<v Speaker 2>with the push to Windows eleven freaked a ton of

785
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.159
<v Speaker 2>people out around the world. Right, A lot of people

786
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 2>were like, oh, oh my god, I can't I got upgrade.

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<v Speaker 2>I got upgrade. Somewhere around sixty five million new computers

788
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<v Speaker 2>were purchased or will be purchased, sixty five million. One

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<v Speaker 2>of these tech blogs I just read estimates that there's

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred million, four hundred million active Windows ten machines.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, four hundred million. Think about that. That's four hundred

793
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<v Speaker 2>million processors, it's four hundred million motherboards, four hundred million

794
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 2>hard drives. That's just a mind blowing amount of stuff.

795
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<v Speaker 2>And to think that sixty five million of that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be brand new. What's going to happen to the

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00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:47.960
<v Speaker 2>sixty five million that they replaced E waste? I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of articles coming out that people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to recycling centers, you know, computer recycling centers and hazardous

800
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<v Speaker 2>ways and finding machines with early jen NI nine's, early

801
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.519
<v Speaker 2>gen early Gen I seven's with memory because people will

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<v Speaker 2>just they don't they just don't know. They go to

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<v Speaker 2>the store, and of course, I say, a good salesperson

804
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be like, yeah, you gotta go. You gotta

805
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 2>go to Windows eleven. You can't stay at ted it's unsecure,

806
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 2>And that's just the fear around that is. I'm skeptical

807
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<v Speaker 2>about that, but that's how you get people to move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, security compliance is gonna be good and

809
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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna help, but I don't like the way the

810
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<v Speaker 2>Microsoft's going around going about it. I don't think outside

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<v Speaker 2>of this computer that I'm on now, I'll put Windows

812
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<v Speaker 2>on another machine. Yeah, well this will be my only

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<v Speaker 2>Windows machine. I have a couple of macs that I

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<v Speaker 2>work on do editing on. I think I will move

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<v Speaker 2>all by other ancillary stuff. I already moved one of

816
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<v Speaker 2>my laptops, the Linux Mint, just to play with. I

817
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<v Speaker 2>moved a Lenovo desktop that I had that was running

818
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<v Speaker 2>games for for Max and stuff. I put that on

819
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<v Speaker 2>Linux Mint. It's just I'm because that was part of

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<v Speaker 2>the one, you know, moving to Windows eleven from the

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<v Speaker 2>licenses that I had for Windows ten. Windows eleven Home

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have remote desktop, so I had to upgrade to

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<v Speaker 2>pro to get because I was doing the upgrade from

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<v Speaker 2>remote desktop. I ran the upgrade for Windows eleven, ran it,

825
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 2>it rebooted, and then all of a sudden, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't connect to the remote desktop. Before I didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>did you have a keyboard, mouse or monitor? PUG didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it because I was just using it as a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a play server, just to put stuff on son.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, I can't connect to it, and

831
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what what's going on? So I did some

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<v Speaker 2>research that that's just that kind of stuff is frustrating

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a user is having an expectation that

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<v Speaker 2>an upgrade, an up an upgrade that I'm paying for

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<v Speaker 2>will include the things they already have in this version,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I get it. Some quality of life stuff maye.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I can lose a couple of things down

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<v Speaker 2>here that maybe I didn't care about, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>features of Windows ten. But you can't have certain high

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<v Speaker 2>level features and then not make them available in the

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<v Speaker 2>next upgrade without going to another price here. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>shady and frustrating as a user.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people have been really frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>with with Microsoft in that respect. And like you went

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<v Speaker 1>the Linux on one of your boxes, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>other people have said, well, I'll go Mac, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they get into the learning curve and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not the same ball of wax. If they've

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<v Speaker 1>been used to using, you know, a Windows PC, well.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, Yeah, if you're jumping, if you've never I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have an iPhone and you're a piece of user,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be an easier transition to a Mac,

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<v Speaker 2>right because the iOS functionality is very similar in terms

854
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<v Speaker 2>of user experience that it is. Sign a Mac. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be familiar with icons, you're gonna be familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>some of this stuff. But if you're an Android user

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<v Speaker 2>and a piece of user and you're coming to a Mac.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be night and day different. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>trying to drive, like trying to drive a standard transmission. Right,

860
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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna stalled a couple of times, and you're gonna,

861
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<v Speaker 2>you know, have to try to learn how to stop

862
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<v Speaker 2>at a stop side on a hill going up and

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<v Speaker 2>try and get going again. So there's some some learning curves,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>But right, I mean, Max doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Some stuff the same kind of the way. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they dropped Intel support. They they're dropping potentially dropping Rosetta

868
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<v Speaker 2>going forward, so even older older software that runs on

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<v Speaker 2>Rosetta for Intel translation between Intel and the new M

870
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<v Speaker 2>chips that's rumored to be going away in a couple

871
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<v Speaker 2>of next revisions. So it's just weird stuff that we're

872
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<v Speaker 2>starting to get siloed again with acknowledge you either have

873
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<v Speaker 2>to be Mac or Windows, and there's no you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't be agnostic anymore. Like it's you gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick, you gotta pick which one? All right, here's something

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<v Speaker 1>do you ever get on next door?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, occasion occasionally, So Caitlyn has it for our neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>I put it on my phone for like two minutes

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<v Speaker 2>and then immediately regretted it.

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<v Speaker 1>Next story is almost and I see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people commenting it's like Facebook, you know, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>your next door and there's a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>use it like we used to use Facebook. But I

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<v Speaker 1>saw I've seen a couple of things on next door

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<v Speaker 1>that I like, Oh, that's cool, you know. At somebody

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<v Speaker 1>on next door was asking about room of vacuums, and

887
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<v Speaker 1>there were some people who there that were keen on

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<v Speaker 1>sharing some of their experiences. When it came to the

889
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<v Speaker 1>room but vacuums, somebody said the pros the robot will

890
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<v Speaker 1>love you and cherish you. The cons it could turn

891
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<v Speaker 1>against you. I don't know how a rumba would turn

892
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<v Speaker 1>against you, but this one I thought was pretty good.

893
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<v Speaker 1>This guy has a name for his roomba for doing

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<v Speaker 1>the two parts of his home. He said, the new

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<v Speaker 1>roombas a guy named Michael who lives out in Picture Rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>The new roombas will map your space, then vacuum in

897
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<v Speaker 1>perfect lines. It even empties itself, which is true when

898
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<v Speaker 1>it has finished its job. He said, we have two

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<v Speaker 1>for different parts of our home. So he has two

900
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<v Speaker 1>roombas and he gave them a name. These are their names,

901
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<v Speaker 1>And if you're gonna name your rumbas, you can't go

902
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<v Speaker 1>wrong with this clean Latifa and dust Ben Bieber. Another

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. We come back. A couple of websites you

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<v Speaker 1>might want to check out for websites of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Taylor, I'm Shana.

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<v Speaker 2>Were to check out our website at tech talk radio

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<v Speaker 2>dot com.

909
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<v Speaker 1>Be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>John is still having fun looking at the TV garden.

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<v Speaker 1>TV dot garden is the website. You found a couple

912
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<v Speaker 1>of channels while we were doing the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, yeah, distracted, What was the question? No, So I'm

914
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<v Speaker 2>literally scrolling through thousands of channels from around the world.

915
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<v Speaker 2>This is just the US. I'm a big motorsports fan.

916
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<v Speaker 2>So mav TV is a channel that airs a lot

917
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<v Speaker 2>of lower, lower tier race race circuits, a lot of supercross,

918
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of motocross, supercars, you know, Australian supercars. It's

919
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<v Speaker 2>on here.

920
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<v Speaker 1>That's cool.

921
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm watching some really low low production value supercross

922
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<v Speaker 2>race right now. That's on. That's the stuff that I

923
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<v Speaker 2>like to watch when I just want to have someone

924
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<v Speaker 2>on the background. So it's like this is inc this

925
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<v Speaker 2>is a website that people need to know about like this,

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<v Speaker 2>it's TV Garden, TV dot Garden. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, here's another one for you, Explore dot org. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>explore dot org. If you remember a site that was

929
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<v Speaker 1>very popular about ten years ago, Live cam, where you

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<v Speaker 1>could watch live cams from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not need another distraction like this, Andy, This

932
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<v Speaker 2>is the type of website I will spend hours sitting on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, and Explore on Org does it a little

934
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<v Speaker 1>differently too. You can look all over the world and

935
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<v Speaker 1>find out cameras that are in different places, maybe your

936
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<v Speaker 1>favorite town, and see what's going on down your boulevard.

937
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<v Speaker 1>But also they schedule cameras, so if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see polar bears at in the Polar region, you can

939
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<v Speaker 1>do that. If you want to see airport operations at

940
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<v Speaker 1>a large airport, you can do that and they'll schedule it.

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<v Speaker 1>So tune in, you know, at ten am, you know,

942
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<v Speaker 1>on this day and watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is something similar that Caitlin and I watch

944
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<v Speaker 2>every year. It's the Katami National Park Fat Bear Contest.

945
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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, that's on here.

946
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<v Speaker 2>It's on here. It's one that is one of our

947
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<v Speaker 2>favorite things to watch because we track sit like we

948
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<v Speaker 2>always like to try and fit pick our favorite and

949
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<v Speaker 2>just track it and see. And then one of them

950
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<v Speaker 2>died this year, so it was this big ding, like

951
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<v Speaker 2>everybody's super sad about it. But they have webcams up

952
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<v Speaker 2>in that National Park that just livestream these fat bears

953
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<v Speaker 2>eating salmon on the river and like it's This is

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<v Speaker 2>the part of the Internet that I love is the

955
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<v Speaker 2>stuff like this where you could just somebody had an

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<v Speaker 2>idea to go stick a webcam in the middle of

957
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<v Speaker 2>nowhere with a satellite phone or something and get a

958
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<v Speaker 2>relatively low resolution webcam back, but you can see what

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you get.

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<v Speaker 2>To track fat bears while they're fattening up for hibernation.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, listen, we got to wrap the show, but

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<v Speaker 1>two websites to check out explore dot org and TV

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<v Speaker 1>dot Garden. Check those ones out. We'll be back next

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<v Speaker 1>week with more info. And you've got a question with

966
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<v Speaker 1>the show, email it to us tech guys at tech

967
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<v Speaker 1>talk radio dot com. I'm Andy Taylor.

968
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<v Speaker 1>Have a great week. M