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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doctor Maria Meyer, anthropologist, primatologist, wildlife correspondent and part

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<v Speaker 3>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 3>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 5>And one are you reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 5>on here? Something just kid with my dog, something killed

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<v Speaker 5>your dog, my dog. We're flying through the or over

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<v Speaker 5>the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 5>over the fence. The name was dead when you hit

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<v Speaker 5>the ground. I didn't a seeny cars. All I saw

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<v Speaker 5>was my dog coming over the fence. What are you reporting?

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<v Speaker 5>We got some wonder or something frowling around out here?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you see what it was? I'm out here looking

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<v Speaker 5>through the window now and I don't say anything. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to go outside. Indeed is white. You're cara

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<v Speaker 5>y Hello, get somebody out here? Went on the out there?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go up a bit of about sect nine. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know you see him out there? Yeah? Right head?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh hey, greetings, thanks for joining me. His friend Alaska.

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<v Speaker 4>What I wanted to share with you today happened approximately

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<v Speaker 4>six years ago on the news Sheigak River. Tony not

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<v Speaker 4>his real name, took his thirty two foot fishing boat

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<v Speaker 4>up river up the New Shigak as a home base

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<v Speaker 4>to anchor out and use his skiff as a little

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<v Speaker 4>satellite run him bout do his moose hunting. He went

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<v Speaker 4>out one evening. He went out on evening Tide went

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<v Speaker 4>up river anchored out just above Portage. The next morning,

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<v Speaker 4>Tide his wife and son, which his son was waiting

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<v Speaker 4>for time off. The following day. His son would be

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<v Speaker 4>off for a week. He brought his mom with him

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<v Speaker 4>to go and meet Tony up at the boat. They

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<v Speaker 4>got there shortly after morning tied. They started making their

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<v Speaker 4>plan of action. They're going to go scout around him

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<v Speaker 4>and his sun and look for mussin while his wife

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<v Speaker 4>just hung out on the fishing boat, tended to meals

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<v Speaker 4>and coffee and stuff like that. It was just what

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<v Speaker 4>they do. So they take off to go scouting him

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<v Speaker 4>and his son. They go all the way up in

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<v Speaker 4>New Stuyhawk and they're drifting down. They're looking for signs

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<v Speaker 4>of moose. Nothing. It's just dead. So they decide after

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<v Speaker 4>a couple hours of that, eh, it's wet out, it's cold.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's regroup and start early in the morning, first light.

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<v Speaker 4>As soon as we can see enough on the river,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll go back up and we'll drift down. So they

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<v Speaker 4>get back to the boat, they hung out. They played

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<v Speaker 4>cards and cribbage and stuff, and I eat dinner, had

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<v Speaker 4>a good dinner, just having good family time, and he said,

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<v Speaker 4>just at twilight, just before it got one hundred percent dark,

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<v Speaker 4>they heard a scream. He said. The scream was loud red.

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<v Speaker 4>It was far away, but it was loud. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a classic air Reid siren ending in a high pitched

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<v Speaker 4>screen right. So they all look at each other and

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<v Speaker 4>his wife said, that's a harry Man and one of

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<v Speaker 4>you guys didn't see no moose. We're probably wasting our time.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go up Wood River or up electnic Gik or

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<v Speaker 4>something like that. And he was like nah. Because he

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<v Speaker 4>had heard stories from his uncle and his Uput and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>He believed them, but he just didn't think it was

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen to him kind of thing, so he

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<v Speaker 4>just denied. He was like, nah, it's got to be

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<v Speaker 4>something we're just unaware of. And his wife told him, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I know what it is, so we should probably not

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<v Speaker 4>waste our time. Thought nothing of it, which he regrets later.

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<v Speaker 4>So he gets up real early the next morning before

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<v Speaker 4>thirty coffee going and gets his son up and moving around.

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<v Speaker 4>They eat real quick. They had some spam and eggs

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<v Speaker 4>with his boy. They filled up a thermos of coffee.

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<v Speaker 4>His wife got up by this point and made them

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<v Speaker 4>like a little snack bag some summer sausage, crackers and

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<v Speaker 4>some other stuff and sent them on their way. They

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<v Speaker 4>took off. They went all the way up where they

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<v Speaker 4>had gone the day before, up just about where New

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<v Speaker 4>Stuyhawk is, and started drifting. Thick fog had rolled in

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<v Speaker 4>that morning. They drifted down. They're seeing nothing. The thick

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<v Speaker 4>fog was making it really hard to see anything. The

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<v Speaker 4>sun wasn't feeling it. He was like, Dad, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think we're going to see anything. This thick fog is

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<v Speaker 4>going to make it hard to get a good shot.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, let's just drift down. We'll come back up.

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<v Speaker 4>The fog should lift, it should burn off, and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see one right there on the bank and make

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<v Speaker 4>it easy. His son agreed, all right, we're here anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>let's do it. So they went up and down river

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<v Speaker 4>a couple times, right, and at this point there's other

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<v Speaker 4>people going buying their skiffs, waving whatever. He said. As

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<v Speaker 4>they went up for the last time, and it's still

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<v Speaker 4>thick fog. It's in the daylight, but it's just such

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<v Speaker 4>dense fog. They were losing hope on their trip. At

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<v Speaker 4>this point. Tony said he didn't sleep too good the

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<v Speaker 4>night before on the boat because there wasn't much room

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<v Speaker 4>with his wife in the bunk with them and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't sleep too good with elbows in his ribs

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that. He was tired. When they got

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<v Speaker 4>back up and were drifting that final time. He was

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<v Speaker 4>laid back and started drifting off a little bit. They

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<v Speaker 4>were on the east side of the river and the channel,

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<v Speaker 4>and they were just coming down. Just blow Henry's slu

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<v Speaker 4>because when he woke up, he was basically still thick

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<v Speaker 4>fog and they were drifting. But he woke up to

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<v Speaker 4>his son smacking him. Startled the shit out of him, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So he jumps up his son. He's pointing at the

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<v Speaker 4>river bank, and Tony's waking up looking at where his

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<v Speaker 4>son's pointing, and all he sees is just dark shadows

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<v Speaker 4>from the trees, and his son's whispering, Hey, that thing

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<v Speaker 4>is on the river bank. I thought I was seeing things,

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<v Speaker 4>but this thing is following us. What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>So he sits up on the bench on the lunch skiff.

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<v Speaker 4>He's looking, and as he's looking where his son's pointing,

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden he sees the movement himself, dark

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<v Speaker 4>shadow just moving right outside the tree line, but with

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<v Speaker 4>the fog, he said, it was really hard to determine

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<v Speaker 4>size at first because the thing it looked like it

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<v Speaker 4>was ducking down and then standing back up tall or

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<v Speaker 4>ducking down. He just woke up, so he's wrapping his

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<v Speaker 4>mind around everything that's unfolding, he said. As he stood

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<v Speaker 4>up and grabbed his rifle and was looking, he was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're seeing things right. Because the way the

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<v Speaker 4>shadow was moving in the fog, he said, it was

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<v Speaker 4>so easy to dismiss it initially. It wasn't tangible, it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't a shape to it. It was just a shadow.

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<v Speaker 4>They seemed moving every so often. But he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're being parallelid that scream scared you last night? His sons, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been watching it. I thought I was seeing things too.

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<v Speaker 4>As they're discussing this that tree line that they're drifting

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<v Speaker 4>down next to, he said that at this point they're

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<v Speaker 4>about forty feet from where this shadow figure is, about

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<v Speaker 4>twenty feet from the river bank in the channel, and

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<v Speaker 4>then about fifteen twenty feet to where this shadow was

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<v Speaker 4>moving along the tree line. He said they were on

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<v Speaker 4>a short straight shot and it was going to come

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<v Speaker 4>to a bend on the river, and there was no

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<v Speaker 4>trees on this bend. It was just shrud and stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and the tree line continued down but the river turned right.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, at that point he was chalking it up

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<v Speaker 4>till we're seeing things still at this point because there

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<v Speaker 4>was nothing concrete. Oh, there's an actual figure. It was

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<v Speaker 4>just a shadow. So he's like, I think we're seeing stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And then all of a sudden, this thing really stands up.

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<v Speaker 4>When it stood up, it was evident it was humanoid

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<v Speaker 4>on two legs and walks, and they could see it

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<v Speaker 4>in the fog walking out. Just as they're coming up

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<v Speaker 4>to the bend in the river, this thing is walking

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<v Speaker 4>and came away from the tree line to follow the

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<v Speaker 4>bend of the river. It was ahead of them, and

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<v Speaker 4>it got ahead of them further. It was moving a

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<v Speaker 4>little faster than they were. And then it got to

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<v Speaker 4>a point and then squatted down, and they saw it

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<v Speaker 4>in the fog. It was just a shadow, but they

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<v Speaker 4>saw it go over and squat down, almost like it

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<v Speaker 4>was waiting for them, creep them both out. So they

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<v Speaker 4>grabbed their guns and they're aiming, and it sounds she

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<v Speaker 4>we shoot. Should we shoot? It does? No, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what it is. It's speculation at this point. But

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<v Speaker 4>he just woke up. He's tired, he's trying to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure his eyes are working right. He doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 4>start firing. It could be a villager screwing around in

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<v Speaker 4>a gilly suit. He didn't know it'd be a dumb

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<v Speaker 4>thing to do, but you just never know. He wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to identify the target before firing, and his son was

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<v Speaker 4>freaked out. So as they're getting closer, they start yelling, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we see you now. I gotta understand. It's dead quiet.

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<v Speaker 4>They're drifting, the motor's not running. As they're coming to

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<v Speaker 4>that bend, his son says, I'm going to fire it up.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't want it decurrent to bring them closer to

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<v Speaker 4>the riverbank than they want to be, because this thing

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<v Speaker 4>is just squatted down in the fog, maybe fifty yards

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<v Speaker 4>at most away at this point, Tony said, as soon

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<v Speaker 4>as they started yelling and the sun fired up the skiff,

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<v Speaker 4>Tony stood up and had one boot on one little

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<v Speaker 4>bench seat and the other one up by the bow

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<v Speaker 4>his rifle, but he's yelling, hey, we see you, We

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<v Speaker 4>see you. You're gonna get shot playing dumb games. He's

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, it stands up again, and he really

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<v Speaker 4>was every bit of ten foot tall. He's guessing about

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<v Speaker 4>four four and a half foot wide. And when it

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<v Speaker 4>the trees. They're just gonna shocked. What the hell this

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<v Speaker 4>thing turns and he couldn't make out any features. The

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<v Speaker 4>fog was so dense it was just shadow in silhouette, right,

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<v Speaker 4>even though it was daylight behind them and stuff and

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<v Speaker 4>all around. He said, the fog was so thick and

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<v Speaker 4>you could see pretty clearly to the river bank, but

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<v Speaker 4>once it got up into the brush and stuff, it

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<v Speaker 4>was so dense it was hard to make out any

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<v Speaker 4>features on this thing. And it turned back towards them

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<v Speaker 4>after it took a few steps, turned towards them and screamed.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, the scream was startling. He almost fell out

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<v Speaker 4>of the skiff just from being startled by how loud

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<v Speaker 4>and powerful it was, and made his son instantly throw up,

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<v Speaker 4>made him feel like his insides were like jello, reverberating

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<v Speaker 4>with the scream. He turns back and yells at his

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<v Speaker 4>son after he drops down off the bench seat and says, go,

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<v Speaker 4>his son's puking, so he can't operate the kicker because

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<v Speaker 4>he's projectile vomiting. So he jumps back there, moves his

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<v Speaker 4>son out of the way. His son's still puking inside

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<v Speaker 4>the skiff now, but he's getting him out of the

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<v Speaker 4>way so he can operate the outboard. He said. When

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<v Speaker 4>he got his son out of the way and started

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<v Speaker 4>opening it up, it screamed again, and at this point

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<v Speaker 4>it had moved down the river bank because he took

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<v Speaker 4>eyes off it to help move his son and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, When he got control of the kicker and

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<v Speaker 4>out of there, this thing I moved down the river

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<v Speaker 4>bank a little ways past where it was before and

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<v Speaker 4>was standing there, and it screamed again as he was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to power past it. He said. When it screamed

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<v Speaker 4>that time, he got a little better look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>He could make out dark, sunken eye area, heavy brow ridge.

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<v Speaker 4>The nose looked flat, real wide looking jaw. But that's

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<v Speaker 4>the most description he could get. It wasn't defined at all.

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<v Speaker 4>He couldn't see the finer features, couldn't tell if the

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<v Speaker 4>It was just dark. Said. He powered out of that,

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<v Speaker 4>went down river, came around the bend because it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of sneaked back and forth. He was just getting the

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<v Speaker 4>hell out of there. His son's still not in a

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<v Speaker 4>good condition. He's still dry heaving at this point because

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<v Speaker 4>he had already expelled everything out of his stomach. Kept

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<v Speaker 4>asking me okay, his son's nod and yes, breathing heavy

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<v Speaker 4>and just dry heaving one after another. Couldn't talk. Was

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<v Speaker 4>just in distress. So they get down around the bend,

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<v Speaker 4>and they get a couple more bends down and at

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<v Speaker 4>this point he's on full step. He's getting the hell

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<v Speaker 4>out of dodge. He's looking out for any floating logs

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<v Speaker 4>or anything like that. They come around another bend and

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<v Speaker 4>he said, as they come around that bend, he hears

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<v Speaker 4>this scream again. It sounds like it's right on top

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<v Speaker 4>of the book still, so he's looking glancing over at

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<v Speaker 4>the river and he notices this thing off to their

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<v Speaker 4>left hand side. At this point, it's moving along. Because

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<v Speaker 4>of the fog and everything, he can't make out how

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<v Speaker 4>it's moving so fast. He said, it looked like it

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<v Speaker 4>was just gliding along because he wasn't seeing any movement

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<v Speaker 4>the legs or everything. Because of the fog and everything,

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<v Speaker 4>it looked like it was gliding. He was like, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 4>he's already got it wide open and they're kicking along

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<v Speaker 4>and he's following the channel and everything, and he decides,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna get out of the channel a little more

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<v Speaker 4>away from shore. I don't know what the hell this

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<v Speaker 4>thing's doing. His son's still freaking out. He had stopped

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<v Speaker 4>dry heaving at this point and was reaching for his rifle.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, don't shoot. His son was shaking his head

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<v Speaker 4>but wasn't really responding to Tony telling him, don't shoot.

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<v Speaker 4>Son slides his rifle over, he checks it, takes it

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<v Speaker 4>off safety, and he points in that direction. He fires

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<v Speaker 4>a shot. Tony said, when he fired that shot, it

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<v Speaker 4>was like all hell broke loose out of this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Because his son didn't aim at it. He just shot

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<v Speaker 4>in that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Day tuned for more sasquatch out to see we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 4>This thing, he said, stopped and just let out this

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<v Speaker 4>hallacious growl, evil kind of, he said. The growl was

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<v Speaker 4>just as impactful as the scream, but it made him

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<v Speaker 4>feel more like jello on the inside than the first

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<v Speaker 4>scream that made his son throw up. He said, at

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<v Speaker 4>that point, they're skiffing along at this point, but once

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<v Speaker 4>his son fired and that growl happened and all that,

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<v Speaker 4>this thing stopped following them down the river. They go

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<v Speaker 4>down a ways. Once he gets feeling like they're not

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<v Speaker 4>being followed anymore, slows out check on his son. Because

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<v Speaker 4>his son was responsive, but he wasn't giving up many answers.

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<v Speaker 4>He was still in the midst of dry heaving but

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<v Speaker 4>not full were on vomiting. Are you okay? Are you okay?

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, yeah, I'm okay. It feels like someone

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<v Speaker 4>kicked me in the gut. And so he's checking on

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<v Speaker 4>his boy and stuff. He had idled down and was

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<v Speaker 4>just basically drifting again right and it came down step

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<v Speaker 4>because he wanted to check on his son. He didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to just leave him there potentially have him choking

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<v Speaker 4>on his own vomit or anything like that. So he

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<v Speaker 4>gets his son up on the bench as they're drifting aways,

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<v Speaker 4>and his son gets his attention and he's pointing, and

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<v Speaker 4>he starts on the verge of dry heaving again. He's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get his dad's attention, and he points back

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<v Speaker 4>to shore and on the river bank. He turns around

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<v Speaker 4>and looks back and this thing is moving and then

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<v Speaker 4>stops and then squats down and is looking at him again.

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<v Speaker 4>He can't see it actually looking at him because of

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<v Speaker 4>the fog and everything, but it's facing them. He can

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<v Speaker 4>sense it's looking at him. So he tols this boy

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<v Speaker 4>hang on. He jumps back, grabs you out board, opens

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<v Speaker 4>it back up, gets back up on step, and then

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<v Speaker 4>they go back to the boat. He said that when

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<v Speaker 4>they got back to the boat, he helped his son

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<v Speaker 4>out of the skiff into the boat, and he sat

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<v Speaker 4>back in the stern on a buoy for a little

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<v Speaker 4>while because he was still feeling sick. He didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to go outside and have to puke and clean it up.

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<v Speaker 4>You just throw up over the stern. He said that

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<v Speaker 4>when they're sitting there. He was telling his wife what

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<v Speaker 4>had happened, because she's like, what's wrong with my boy?

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<v Speaker 4>He explains everything, and she was like, oh, geez, you guys,

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<v Speaker 4>let's just go let's just go home. She had brought

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<v Speaker 4>up it being a wasted time since the scream the

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<v Speaker 4>night before. Tony, of course, was feeling bad enough. His

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<v Speaker 4>wife is not reading him the Riot Act, but in essence,

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<v Speaker 4>she was just in her own quiet way. I'll pull

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<v Speaker 4>up anchor, we'll use the big boat and just drag

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<v Speaker 4>the skiff home. We'll take our time. He checks on

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<v Speaker 4>his son. His son was doing a lot better. He

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<v Speaker 4>said that once they got down below portage on their

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<v Speaker 4>way out, the fog had pretty much lifted. It was

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<v Speaker 4>still overcast and everything, but it wasn't dense fog. The

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<v Speaker 4>ceiling had lifted. He said, this seemed just above tree line.

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<v Speaker 4>As they're going along, he was continually checking on his son.

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<v Speaker 4>His son said he was doing okay, and they were

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<v Speaker 4>just like nervously chuckling, WHOA, that was crazy, Wow, Harry

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<v Speaker 4>Man is just crazy. And as that was going on

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<v Speaker 4>off in the distance, at that point, they heard another scream.

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<v Speaker 4>He said it had to have been miles away, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was so loud it made his son, not from

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<v Speaker 4>the impact of the scream, but just from the thought,

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<v Speaker 4>started making him sick again, feeling ill to his stomach.

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<v Speaker 4>They just continued on and his wife had nursed the

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<v Speaker 4>boy and calmed him down, gave him a sprite to drink,

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<v Speaker 4>and some saltine crackers to eat. They just went on home,

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<v Speaker 4>he said. When he got home, he reached out to

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<v Speaker 4>one of his relatives who happened to live up in

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<v Speaker 4>New Study Hawk, and was telling him, Hey, here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Told him everything he said. This particular relative kind of

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<v Speaker 4>chuckled and said, oh, okay, okay, yeah, we'll keep an

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<v Speaker 4>eye out. He said he didn't feel like his cousin

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<v Speaker 4>was dismissing him, but he felt like his cousin wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>taking it as serious as he should. So the following

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<v Speaker 4>day he had called back just to reiterate, Hey, this

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<v Speaker 4>really happened. I'm not pulling your leg, this is what happened,

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<v Speaker 4>and his cousin told him, yeah, I had you called,

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<v Speaker 4>I would have told you that there was a sighting

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<v Speaker 4>over that area. A couple days before this, people had

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<v Speaker 4>heard some screams again, a lot of people don't talk

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<v Speaker 4>about it in the village because of the bad omen

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<v Speaker 4>the superstitious aspect of it. I want to thank Tony

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<v Speaker 4>for sharing. I talked to his son briefly. He really

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to discuss too much about it. He basically

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<v Speaker 4>had the same thing to say his dad did. Outside

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<v Speaker 4>of when his son first saw this thing shadow moving,

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<v Speaker 4>he said he thought he saw a big man walking,

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<v Speaker 4>but then because of the trees and everything, he thought

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<v Speaker 4>maybe he was seeing things. Come to find out he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, next time I see something like that, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to take it serious from the beginning, which fair enough.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to thank his son as well for being

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<v Speaker 4>willing to speak to me. I know it's not easy

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<v Speaker 4>talking to strangers about stuff. Be aware in the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want anyone to be scared of the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>I go out in the woods all the time and

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<v Speaker 4>just be aware. You never know, you never know. I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to share it to you today. Comes from Derek

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<v Speaker 4>had basically signed up or rented out the state cabin

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<v Speaker 4>at Lynx Lake approximately ten years ago. He's guestimating Derek

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<v Speaker 4>just turned eighty. He was further along in life. He

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<v Speaker 4>had a Golden Retriever with them. One of his friends

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<v Speaker 4>was supposed to join him. He had signed out this

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<v Speaker 4>cabin for a few days because you got to go

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<v Speaker 4>to the state map and basically rent it out, set

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<v Speaker 4>your dates, make sure it's not already reserved. So he

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<v Speaker 4>had his reservations. He said. He gets there, he said,

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<v Speaker 4>as soon as he got there, it was off. Someone

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<v Speaker 4>was off, and the state cabin is like, not far

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<v Speaker 4>off Nancy Lake Road. It's in the Nancy Lake Steak

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<v Speaker 4>Recreation Area. Now, he had brought a canoe along and

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<v Speaker 4>he was planning on doing some canoeing. He wasn't going

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<v Speaker 4>to port his canoe through all the lakes. He was

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<v Speaker 4>just gonna canoe around the one lake that he knew

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<v Speaker 4>he could get around on. He's dealing with some hip

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<v Speaker 4>issues and whatnot, so he couldn't really hide or drag

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<v Speaker 4>heavy stuff. He was capable of launching a canoe, pointing

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<v Speaker 4>it out of the water, and with his friend showing up,

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<v Speaker 4>he would be able to load it back up. So

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<v Speaker 4>he starts his morning off and his friend late not showing,

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<v Speaker 4>and he didn't want to waste the day, so he decides,

414
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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to wrestle the canoe out onto the lake.

415
00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:17.240
<v Speaker 4>Myself had his dog with him. His dog, he said,

416
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<v Speaker 4>was acting strange from the beginning. He said, when he

417
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<v Speaker 4>was dragging the canoe down, the canoe made a cup

418
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<v Speaker 4>up sound, falling off the top of his vehicle. He

419
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<v Speaker 4>thought that noise scared the dog, which seemed odd to

420
00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.279
<v Speaker 4>him there in a strange place, and thought nothing of it. Okay,

421
00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:34.359
<v Speaker 4>dog's a little freaked out. Ran up on the little

422
00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:38.519
<v Speaker 4>porch right there at the cabin, and he kept calling

423
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<v Speaker 4>his dog. His dog would not come to him, just

424
00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:45.319
<v Speaker 4>sat there looking very anxious. Didn't want no part of nothing,

425
00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.880
<v Speaker 4>which was odd. So he left it alone. He went

426
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<v Speaker 4>up there and said, okay, you don't have to come

427
00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:52.960
<v Speaker 4>this time, and he let the dog into the cabin.

428
00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:55.960
<v Speaker 4>The dog went right inside. He shut the door. No harm,

429
00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:59.079
<v Speaker 4>no foul. He puts on his life best and jumps

430
00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:01.839
<v Speaker 4>in the canoe and he passed out. He said. He

431
00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:05.119
<v Speaker 4>got out to about the mid part of the lake

432
00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:08.440
<v Speaker 4>and he fell off, and he kept looking around, like

433
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<v Speaker 4>why do I shiel like I'm being watched. He figured

434
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<v Speaker 4>there are some other campers or hikers around, and so

435
00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.079
<v Speaker 4>he starts looking around. And this was at the beginning

436
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<v Speaker 4>of August, he said, because that's the only time there

437
00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:24.000
<v Speaker 4>was a gap in the reservations for this particular cabin

438
00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.039
<v Speaker 4>where he could get in there. Right, he took what

439
00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:29.920
<v Speaker 4>he can get. He's looking around and he heard a

440
00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.799
<v Speaker 4>family somewhere off in the distance playing. Here kids laughing.

441
00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:36.480
<v Speaker 4>He heard adults chattering. But he's on a lake, so

442
00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:38.680
<v Speaker 4>the sound is carrying from a pretty good distance, and

443
00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:42.359
<v Speaker 4>he's assuming that across the lake there's another portage trail,

444
00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:45.559
<v Speaker 4>and he assumed that they were over there. Again, he

445
00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.119
<v Speaker 4>was like, okay, maybe one of them is watching me,

446
00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:50.559
<v Speaker 4>and that's what's making me feel odd. So he's just

447
00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:54.240
<v Speaker 4>sitting there, been joining the scenery. The nseums were out,

448
00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:57.599
<v Speaker 4>so he was a bit pestered by the nseums. At

449
00:22:57.640 --> 00:22:59.880
<v Speaker 4>one point, he turns around for his little pack behind

450
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<v Speaker 4>him to get out of his bug spray, he said.

451
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:05.039
<v Speaker 4>As he was digging in his bag, he pulled it,

452
00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:07.240
<v Speaker 4>set it on his lap and was digging in there,

453
00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:09.880
<v Speaker 4>and he noticed off to his right hand side there

454
00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:13.640
<v Speaker 4>was something very dark off in the distance on the shoreline,

455
00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:15.920
<v Speaker 4>and he saw it move. So he looks that direction

456
00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:19.640
<v Speaker 4>and all he saw was just a sliver of black

457
00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:22.599
<v Speaker 4>moving behind some trees, and he was like, oh, that

458
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:24.680
<v Speaker 4>explains that there's a black bear over there, and my

459
00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:28.160
<v Speaker 4>dog is freaked out about it. So he minces doing

460
00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.559
<v Speaker 4>his bug dope thing, thinks not too much of it,

461
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:32.880
<v Speaker 4>and puts his bag away. After he puts on his

462
00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:37.039
<v Speaker 4>bugged open knee, starts paddling towards shore to get closer

463
00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:39.599
<v Speaker 4>to get a look at this black bear again. At

464
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<v Speaker 4>this point, he's in his early seventies. He's not out

465
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<v Speaker 4>for a bear confrontation. He just wanted to check out

466
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<v Speaker 4>the bear. So as he paddles closer to the shore,

467
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<v Speaker 4>he said he got within seventy five yards ashore and

468
00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:52.960
<v Speaker 4>decided that'd be a good spot in case the bear charged,

469
00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.160
<v Speaker 4>he would have time to react and the bear would

470
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<v Speaker 4>have to essentially swim out to catch up, and he

471
00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:01.559
<v Speaker 4>could be on his way. He's doing this, he gets

472
00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:03.480
<v Speaker 4>to the spot, he slows himself down with the oar

473
00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.880
<v Speaker 4>and then paddles himself in the circle. He's watching sure

474
00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.640
<v Speaker 4>and if he notices darkness real high up and he's

475
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:14.200
<v Speaker 4>throwing off, he's there's no tree back there, because at

476
00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:16.640
<v Speaker 4>first he thought maybe the blackbird climbed a tree and

477
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.359
<v Speaker 4>was up in the tree watching him, which it happens.

478
00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:23.480
<v Speaker 4>So he's trying to focus in on this spot, and

479
00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:26.039
<v Speaker 4>he noticed that a brush behind. He's looking for a

480
00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:28.480
<v Speaker 4>tree where this thing could be, and obviously the alders

481
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:31.400
<v Speaker 4>that it's behind is too small to be supporting a

482
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.799
<v Speaker 4>bear up off the ground. It's just impossible, and so

483
00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:36.799
<v Speaker 4>for the life of him, he's trying to figure it out.

484
00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.119
<v Speaker 4>And as he's doing so, he yells out, hey bear,

485
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.599
<v Speaker 4>No response, no nothing, So he paddles a little closer.

486
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.759
<v Speaker 4>Something comes over him and he says, nah, I'm done here,

487
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.799
<v Speaker 4>I gotta go. He follows his instincts. He starts paddling away.

488
00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:53.319
<v Speaker 4>As he turns his back to that position where this

489
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:57.319
<v Speaker 4>dark spot still is, there's this weird noise. He said

490
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.640
<v Speaker 4>it was like a half whoop, half growl. He couldn't

491
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.039
<v Speaker 4>reproduce it. The best explanation and get his half whoop,

492
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:07.559
<v Speaker 4>half growl. Do what you will with that noise, but

493
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:10.680
<v Speaker 4>not natural sounding to anything he's ever heard in Alaska,

494
00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:13.680
<v Speaker 4>So that kind of creeps money. He looks back, and

495
00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:15.920
<v Speaker 4>as he looks back over his shoulder and kind of

496
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:19.200
<v Speaker 4>repositions himself to get a better look, he sees that

497
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:23.079
<v Speaker 4>dark spot drop out of sight, and then he's seen

498
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:27.240
<v Speaker 4>it move from the direction new his facing, moving towards

499
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:31.000
<v Speaker 4>the right, basically heading back towards the area of the cabin,

500
00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.279
<v Speaker 4>and the cabin is a distance away, but it's moving

501
00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:35.559
<v Speaker 4>that direction. So he spooks a little bit in the crap.

502
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't want this bear trying to attack my dog

503
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:41.519
<v Speaker 4>or get into the cabin while I'm away. And he

504
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.759
<v Speaker 4>had a nine millimeter and a fanning pack, just a

505
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:47.279
<v Speaker 4>little something in case, just in case. So he starts

506
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:50.559
<v Speaker 4>paddling back towards the landing where he had launched. He

507
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 4>gets back over there. It took a few minutes because

508
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.680
<v Speaker 4>again he's across the lake and whatnot. He said, when

509
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:58.880
<v Speaker 4>he got to shore, he heard that growl whoop again

510
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:01.680
<v Speaker 4>off in the distance, off to his left, back behind

511
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:03.960
<v Speaker 4>the cabin, in the direction that he had just come from.

512
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.480
<v Speaker 4>So I figured, WHOA, Okay, whatever it is, I beat

513
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:09.960
<v Speaker 4>it back here. Hopefully it's not coming here. But I

514
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 4>don't want to be out here. So he climbs out

515
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:15.279
<v Speaker 4>of the little canoe, drags it up on shore, and

516
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.319
<v Speaker 4>grabs his little day pack out of it and goes inside.

517
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:20.519
<v Speaker 4>He's been the rest of the day waiting on his

518
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:23.920
<v Speaker 4>friend who never showed, didn't hear anything. He ended up

519
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:27.160
<v Speaker 4>leaving the cabin for a brief period to get where

520
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 4>he had cell signal down the road a little ways

521
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:32.400
<v Speaker 4>get a hold of his friend. His friend was running late,

522
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:35.519
<v Speaker 4>was due to arrive later that evening, and HE'SAI, okay,

523
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.359
<v Speaker 4>goes back to the cabin. When he gets to the cabin,

524
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 4>the door is open. He was like, what the hell again?

525
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:44.480
<v Speaker 4>He had his dog in there, looks for his dog,

526
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:48.920
<v Speaker 4>couldn't find the dog. Now, this place, this particular cabin,

527
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.000
<v Speaker 4>has had an instance at it before, and I've shared

528
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 4>it previously on the channel. The exact ends and out

529
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 4>so that when you'd have to go back. When he

530
00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:00.119
<v Speaker 4>gets there and the door's open, he's, oh, crap, the

531
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.400
<v Speaker 4>bear got in, right, the bear got my dog. So

532
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.960
<v Speaker 4>he comes back outside. He's panicking again. He's in his seventies.

533
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 4>He's not a young, spry guy that's just going to

534
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 4>run off chasing a dog. But he starts calling his dog.

535
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 4>As he's calling the dog, Sure it comes from what

536
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 4>he could tell. It came down the road the direction.

537
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:21.400
<v Speaker 4>He doesn't know how he missed it driving out, coming

538
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:23.559
<v Speaker 4>back in on his way back in. How he missed it,

539
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 4>but the dog came down the road basically the direction

540
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 4>of the road, comes right up to him, happy to

541
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 4>see him, goes inside. He's looking around to see if

542
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 4>the bear got into anything. He had supplies in their

543
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.440
<v Speaker 4>food and stuff. Nothing was touched, not of the ordinary.

544
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.319
<v Speaker 4>He just thought it was weird. Did he not shut

545
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:42.279
<v Speaker 4>the door all the way and it just popped open

546
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 4>with wind gust or something. He's looking for excuses on

547
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 4>why this door opened. Couldn't come up with anything, so

548
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.039
<v Speaker 4>he calms down. He settles in, He makes himself something

549
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 4>to eat. He said, as he was cooking, the dog

550
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:58.880
<v Speaker 4>started acting strange again, went down underneath this little table,

551
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 4>curl up and was winpery. Then it got real quiet.

552
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 4>And as soon as the dog got super quiet, and

553
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 4>he's tending to his food, looking over asking him, hey,

554
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.400
<v Speaker 4>you all right, buddy? Did you get hurt? And as

555
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 4>he steps away from where he's cooking to go intend

556
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 4>to the dog, bamn, the whole place shake, something hit

557
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 4>this cabin. He was like, holy crap. So instantly he's

558
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 4>unzipping his little fanny pack and he pulls out his

559
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 4>nine millimeter. He said it was just a little subcompact.

560
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 4>So he pulls it out and he starts looking out

561
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.160
<v Speaker 4>the window, like, what the hell? What hit this place?

562
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean. He still has time before

563
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 4>it gets dark, so he decides, all right, I'm gonna

564
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 4>step outside and chase this bear off. He figured it

565
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 4>was a bear fell against the cabin or something along

566
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.359
<v Speaker 4>those lines. He didn't want it around. He didn't want

567
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 4>to shoot it either, but he wanted to scare it off.

568
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:50.440
<v Speaker 4>This is what's going on in his mind. So Derek

569
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:54.759
<v Speaker 4>goes outside, goes around to the left hand side and

570
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 4>looks back, he said, back behind the cabin. As he's looking,

571
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 4>he noticed his movement quartering away from the cabin through

572
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 4>the brush. He goes, okay, there it is. So he

573
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 4>decides he's going to go around the other way. I

574
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 4>have a little bit of better angle on the way

575
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 4>it's quartering, because he wanted to have a little bit

576
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 4>of something between him and it when he confronted it,

577
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 4>because he said it wasn't moving fast. He could see

578
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:20.960
<v Speaker 4>it just this darkness kind of moving away. So he

579
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 4>circles around. He gets back over to the back corner

580
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 4>and he's looking off that rear corner back in the

581
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 4>direction where he saw the dark spot. As he's sitting

582
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 4>there trying to figure out where it went and make

583
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 4>sure it's not circling back or anything like that. It

584
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 4>was more open off to his left hand side, so

585
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 4>he felt comfortable it wasn't sneaking up on him. And

586
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:41.559
<v Speaker 4>as he's looking, he said, all of a sudden, he

587
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:46.079
<v Speaker 4>noticed this thing looking back at him, he said. The

588
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:50.559
<v Speaker 4>skin looked like it was pitch black. The eyes, there

589
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 4>was a little bit of glint from the daylight, but

590
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.440
<v Speaker 4>they looked black as well. This thing, from what he

591
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 4>could make out because it was partially silhouetted, what he

592
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 4>could make was it had human like features, but it

593
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.400
<v Speaker 4>was dark, very dark.

594
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.160
<v Speaker 3>And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll

595
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 3>be right back after these messages.

596
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 4>But it freaked him out. He's what am I looking at?

597
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 4>What am I seeing here? He's trying to comprehend this

598
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:23.039
<v Speaker 4>feeling within him, as he said, started welling up, taking

599
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 4>over this fear. So he was like crap, he yells out,

600
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 4>you need to leave. You're not welcome here. I rented

601
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 4>the place, I have it reserved. You have to go

602
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 4>somewhere else. To camp. He didn't know why, he said

603
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 4>that it made no sense to him then and he

604
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 4>still don't know why now. He just felt the need

605
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:44.400
<v Speaker 4>to vocalize something to this thing, he said. As soon

606
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.640
<v Speaker 4>as he got done talking and told this thing to leave,

607
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, it stood up. He said. When

608
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 4>it stood up, he thought he's going to have a

609
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.400
<v Speaker 4>heart attack, because he said, when it stood up, it

610
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:57.920
<v Speaker 4>had to have been ten to eleven feet tall. It

611
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:01.440
<v Speaker 4>wasn't overly huge as far as with lanky, but muscular.

612
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:05.000
<v Speaker 4>The way the sunshine was hitting he could see the

613
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 4>hair moving in the air. He had a little better

614
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 4>look at the face because once it stood up, it

615
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 4>illuminated from the sunlight. He said, it looked like a

616
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 4>big as kve man. The look on his face, it

617
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:19.160
<v Speaker 4>looked like it meant business. So he's standing there and

618
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 4>he's whole shit, you know, what the hell? And as

619
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 4>he's watching this thing, all of a sudden takes a

620
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.640
<v Speaker 4>couple of steps towards him, and immediately he just points

621
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 4>the gun in the air and fires like three or

622
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 4>four shots. He said, it may have been more, maybe less,

623
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 4>but he wanted to make noise. He fires these shots

624
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 4>and tucks and runs. He did not shoot directly at it.

625
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 4>He shot up, but in that direction right makes these shots,

626
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 4>bolts back inside, gets inside, shuts the door, and he said,

627
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.319
<v Speaker 4>as he was sitting there with his back against the door,

628
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 4>trying not to have a heart attack, he felt like

629
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:54.240
<v Speaker 4>he was having some kind of a rhythm or something

630
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:57.039
<v Speaker 4>going on. Was not doing good in that moment, so

631
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 4>he went. He found his eighty one milligram. But he

632
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 4>takes some aspirin and he's sitting there trying to calm down.

633
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.720
<v Speaker 4>He said, he had a heart attack, like almost twenty

634
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 4>years earlier. Anytime he was feeling stressed, he would take

635
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 4>the aspirin and it would seem to help. So he

636
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:13.960
<v Speaker 4>went to what he knew. Derek said, he took that

637
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.359
<v Speaker 4>he was sitting there. He moves some stuff over in

638
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 4>front of the door, just a furrow barrier, and was

639
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 4>checking and looking out these windows. There's three, one in

640
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 4>the back by this little makeshift sink, and then two

641
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:30.000
<v Speaker 4>on either side. Kept looking at those, started feeling uncomfortable.

642
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 4>It was starting to get darker, not dark, but darker,

643
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 4>and as twilight approached, all of a sudden, damn. As

644
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 4>he was just calming down. Something hit the cabin again,

645
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 4>freaked him right back out, immediately pulls his gun. He

646
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:47.279
<v Speaker 4>wants to leave. He knows his friend is coming, so

647
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 4>he talks himself from the stand. Put right. His dog

648
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 4>has not moved and just whimpers every once in a while.

649
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 6>Right.

650
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 4>So, after some time passes, he said, he's not sure exactly,

651
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 4>but it was more into twilight. His friend and shows

652
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 4>up in his truck. His friend had a shotgun with him.

653
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 4>When he shows up, Derek's out on the porch. His

654
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 4>dog follows him. His dog knows his buddy well, so

655
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 4>his dog runs over to his buddy. Now we'll leave

656
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 4>his name out of it, he said, as he goes

657
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 4>over and says, hey, he's holding his pistol in his hands.

658
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 4>To his friend immediately said, wehll, what's with the gun?

659
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 4>What's going Is there a bear? What's going on? So

660
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 4>immediately his friend starts digging his twelve gage out. He

661
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.559
<v Speaker 4>tells him what happened, and his friend's kind of stuck

662
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.680
<v Speaker 4>for a second. What the hell are you talking about? Derek?

663
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 4>He goes, grab your stuff, come inside. I don't feel

664
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 4>safe out here. So his friend reluctantly okay, all right,

665
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.759
<v Speaker 4>he just grabbed his gun case in his backpack and

666
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 4>he said, I'll grab the rest of the stuff later.

667
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.920
<v Speaker 4>And they both go inside. Right, So Derek explains everything

668
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 4>that happened to him, from out on the lake to

669
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:51.039
<v Speaker 4>coming back to everything. His friend was a little taking

670
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 4>him back because he knows Derek's not out for attention,

671
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.400
<v Speaker 4>going to make up some story. Here's him out. He

672
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:58.200
<v Speaker 4>believes him. He doesn't know what to think of it,

673
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.640
<v Speaker 4>but he believes him. As they're sitting and they're talking,

674
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 4>it was almost on cue. Derek said he couldn't have

675
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 4>timed it better. He stood up and said, when this

676
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 4>thing hit the cabin, it shook the place. It's big.

677
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 4>No sooner and he says that bam, the whole place shakes.

678
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.199
<v Speaker 4>His friend immediately jumps up. He had set the shotgun

679
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 4>on this little table, grabs a shot and was like,

680
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 4>holy crap. And Derek said, yeah, that's exactly what I'm

681
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 4>talking about. His friend goes hold on, runs outside. Derek

682
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 4>sign tell him no, don't. His friend runs outside off

683
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:33.039
<v Speaker 4>to the left. He goes down these few little steps,

684
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.079
<v Speaker 4>runs around the left hand side, and his face in

685
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.440
<v Speaker 4>the back and he's got a shotgun up Derek hears

686
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 4>him yelling as he's coming out the door behind him,

687
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:43.920
<v Speaker 4>yelling get out of here. As he's doing so, all

688
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.159
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, this scream happens. Now. He said, the

689
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 4>scream they heard sounded like it was a bit at

690
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 4>a distance, but the silhouette was right there, about twenty

691
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:55.320
<v Speaker 4>five feet off the back of the cabin and some

692
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 4>brush standing there, just quiet facing them. He said. The

693
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.239
<v Speaker 4>scream at the distance scared them both because they felt

694
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.719
<v Speaker 4>it reverberate through their system. Hold it, what the hell?

695
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:06.880
<v Speaker 4>Because it wasn't coming from the one right over there,

696
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 4>it was coming from something further back. His friend lowers

697
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 4>his gun, says get inside. They go inside. They sit

698
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 4>there a few minutes and his friends, you know, what

699
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 4>the hell we need to leave. We need to leave.

700
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 4>Is your car unlocked? Derek's yeah, my car's unlocked. He goes,

701
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm loading your car for you. I'm gonna make sure

702
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 4>you're in it and load it up, and i'll make

703
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 4>sure all my stuff's in my truck, and we're getting

704
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 4>out of here. We're leaving here. He said, all right,

705
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 4>He was all for it. He said, I stuck around

706
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.239
<v Speaker 4>because you were on your way. His friends, We're not

707
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 4>staying here. Whatever that is, it's not human, it's not

708
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 4>a bear, and we need to go. Of course, Derek's

709
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 4>all for it, and his friend loads up his stuff

710
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 4>as Derek stands on the porch whatever backup he would

711
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.639
<v Speaker 4>be with the nine millimeter. Again, he didn't have a

712
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 4>whole bunch of stuff, so it didn't take very long.

713
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 4>The canoe became the issue now. Derek had put it

714
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 4>on top of his luggage rack in his little small cuv.

715
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 4>His buddy was like, we're just gonna put that in

716
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 4>the bed of my truck. I will strap it down.

717
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 4>They drag it over. They put it in the bed

718
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:07.519
<v Speaker 4>of the truck. The whole time his friend is head

719
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 4>on the swevel looking all around him. Every once in

720
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 4>a while they would hear noises, but they were at

721
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.800
<v Speaker 4>a distance, so they felt a little more comfortable. Even

722
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 4>though they didn't feel comfortable at all, they felt a

723
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.800
<v Speaker 4>little more comfortable, as Derek put it, getting this thing

724
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.920
<v Speaker 4>loaded up. So they throw the little canoe into the

725
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 4>back of his buddy's pickup truck. His buddy already had

726
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.920
<v Speaker 4>some quarters and other stuff in the bed and they

727
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 4>just latch it down real quick. He had Derek jump

728
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 4>in his vehicle after he double checked to make sure

729
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 4>they got everything. Derek leaves and his friend follows him.

730
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 4>Nothing else happened. It caused Derek to reevaluate every strange

731
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 4>sound he had ever witnessed in the woods that he

732
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 4>just dismissed, which happens to a lot of people. I

733
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 4>want to thank Derek for reaching out. It was hard

734
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 4>for him to express everything that he was dealing with.

735
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 4>He felt it necessary for people to understand. Sometimes things

736
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:04.760
<v Speaker 4>just tappened that he can't explain. I'm getting multiple reports

737
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 4>of people being in very familiar areas. Vincent Wasley had

738
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.199
<v Speaker 4>a chat with him the other day from Nuna. He

739
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 4>was up on the Cusca Cliff River searching out for punk,

740
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 4>which is a fungus that grows on birch. He was

741
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.599
<v Speaker 4>up there collecting a very familiar area. He kept getting

742
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.320
<v Speaker 4>lost trying to walk back to the river. He kept

743
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 4>doing half circles and trying to figure out why he

744
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 4>couldn't make it back, And he kept checking his app

745
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 4>with the X Hunt app to see where he was

746
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 4>going wrong, and he would course correct and continueing. All

747
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.239
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, he's going in another circle during the

748
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.559
<v Speaker 4>course of this, he saw something brown across the way.

749
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.239
<v Speaker 4>It blended in so well it melted into the background,

750
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 4>and he thought he was seeing things at first until

751
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.920
<v Speaker 4>it moved, But once he recognized what was going on,

752
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.079
<v Speaker 4>he just took a straight track to the river and

753
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 4>that followed the river bank up to where his skiff was. Thankfully,

754
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 4>there's another report. I'll leave the person's name out, but

755
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:04.719
<v Speaker 4>something very similar. They're at a very picking patch that

756
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 4>was very familiar to them, very familiar there for generations. Literally,

757
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 4>this person walks into this open metal area with tundra,

758
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 4>started picking berries thirty minutes and looked around and was

759
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 4>totally lost. Even though this person just walked in nult

760
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 4>down and was picking not very far in, didn't go

761
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:31.800
<v Speaker 4>around off anywhere else in their familiar area, stood up,

762
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 4>and was in essence lost for a few minutes. This

763
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 4>person also seeing a figure off in the distance looking

764
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.639
<v Speaker 4>at them. Of course, playing Devil's advocate, I asked, how

765
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 4>do you know it was someone looking at you or

766
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 4>something looking at you? They profess that it moved. It

767
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 4>started moving from directly in front of them off to

768
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:54.639
<v Speaker 4>their left, and then went up into a thicker brush,

769
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 4>going up the side of the mountain. The third account

770
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 4>comes from the yk del the area. But that's a

771
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 4>wide swath of land and I'll just leave it at that.

772
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.960
<v Speaker 4>This young lady reported Debt. She was at a bury

773
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.880
<v Speaker 4>picking site as well. She was summoned by this thing

774
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 4>approximately two hundred yards away. She was with her older brother.

775
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Speaker 4>Her older brother had very protection with them, had a rifle.

776
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 4>She said. As she was picking, she caught the overwhelming

777
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 4>urge to look in this specific direction, which was basically

778
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 4>right in front of her. She said, she was looking,

779
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 4>she noticed like a branch moving. She thought it was

780
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.639
<v Speaker 4>just a branch moving in the wind across the tundra

781
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 4>at this little stand of black spruce across the way,

782
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.039
<v Speaker 4>she said, as she was watching, she noticed it was

783
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:49.599
<v Speaker 4>actually a figure there, motioning, waving for her. She said,

784
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 4>she got the most eerie feeling. She told her brother.

785
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 4>He stood up, immediately went that direction a few steps,

786
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 4>and this thing wasn't there anymore. He didn't see, but

787
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:02.719
<v Speaker 4>she did, and she thought nothing of it. Okay, my

788
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 4>brother scared it off or whatever. So they were a

789
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:10.320
<v Speaker 4>little nervous, continuing there very picking when they stopped abruptly,

790
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 4>and her brother was like no, we should go now,

791
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 4>so he leads the way out of there. She was

792
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 4>totally confused. They're literally on their back trail. They can

793
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 4>see the impressions and the thunder they walk, and her

794
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 4>brother was confused. She reassured them, Hey, we're going in

795
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.519
<v Speaker 4>the right direction. Look, these are our imprints in the tundra.

796
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.239
<v Speaker 4>And he kept saying no, and she was confused by it.

797
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.719
<v Speaker 4>So when she turned around, she was looking back in

798
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 4>that direction as she saw the figure again. When she

799
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:41.239
<v Speaker 4>turned around, she shook. Her brother got his attention again.

800
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 4>Then they were both standing there because as she was

801
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:48.480
<v Speaker 4>getting his attention, she realized she wasn't quite sure they

802
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.039
<v Speaker 4>were on the right trail either. Now, remember they just

803
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 4>came into this little meadow to pick berries and stuff.

804
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 4>They know the area for a very long time, not

805
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 4>their first time being there. They are literally there all

806
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 4>the time. Even when the berries aren't there, they're out

807
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:08.039
<v Speaker 4>there doing other stuff. Right, she got concerns, She said.

808
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 4>It took about fifteen minutes before everything came back, as

809
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 4>she kept looking back to where this thing was. It

810
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.119
<v Speaker 4>wasn't until that figure wasn't there anymore that they were

811
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.920
<v Speaker 4>able to gather their senses. I asked why didn't make

812
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:26.840
<v Speaker 4>more of a bigger deal that this thing was over there,

813
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 4>because a lot of people freaks them out. Holy shit.

814
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Her response was, I felt like I wasn't under threat.

815
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 4>I was like, okay, that's fair, because it's not the

816
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 4>first time I've heard of younger women feeling a sense

817
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:44.880
<v Speaker 4>of peace, a sense of it's okay with these things around.

818
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 4>She also stated that it was about two minutes after

819
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.480
<v Speaker 4>she was feeling that sense of peace that her brother

820
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 4>was overcome with dread. She said, when that happened, he

821
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.360
<v Speaker 4>told her to start running right now. I know it

822
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 4>sounds crazy because it's a little chaotic. This thing is

823
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.039
<v Speaker 4>sitting there. Whether it's projecting, I don't know. It's not

824
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 4>the first time I heard of this trance like state,

825
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:15.119
<v Speaker 4>though creepy, very creepy. Her brother said, we got to run.

826
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.599
<v Speaker 4>You run now, stay right behind me. If you don't

827
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:19.519
<v Speaker 4>stay behind me, I'm going to make you run in

828
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 4>front of me. And he says, squatch it, you're running

829
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 4>in front of me. Let's go. He points in the

830
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 4>direction says run. They start running now. As he's dealing

831
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 4>with this overwhelming fear, he keeps yelling out to her saying,

832
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 4>don't stop running, because he's stopping every once in a

833
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.400
<v Speaker 4>while turning around. He did about three or four times

834
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.239
<v Speaker 4>that she can recollect because it was chaotic. The third

835
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 4>or the fourth time he shot his rifle, he said,

836
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 4>keep running. It's trying to chase us. She's not seeing

837
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.719
<v Speaker 4>what he's seeing, but she does know it was over there.

838
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.599
<v Speaker 4>I was waving at her earlier. So as they're making

839
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.559
<v Speaker 4>their way out of this very zig zaggy switch back

840
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:02.119
<v Speaker 4>and forth, you gotta go up downhill some past through

841
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 4>a few metals. They got a ways to go, she said.

842
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.000
<v Speaker 4>After he shot, like the second time, he yelled at

843
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.840
<v Speaker 4>her to stop there because she was bolting. She was

844
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 4>out pacing him by miles because he was more focused

845
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 4>on what was behind him. When he catches up to her,

846
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:22.599
<v Speaker 4>she said that he was pale, very pale, freaked out.

847
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:25.920
<v Speaker 4>They look at their back trail and they see a

848
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.440
<v Speaker 4>dark shadow figure cross across the path, just inside the

849
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.360
<v Speaker 4>tree line that they had just come out of. Right now,

850
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 4>they had already gone approximately she guessed about a quarter

851
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 4>mile of him. Turning around shot a couple times on

852
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:42.239
<v Speaker 4>their back trail, just making noise. Basically from what her

853
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 4>brother told her. As they saw it cross, it just

854
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't stop. It was coming around circling. Her brother shot

855
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:53.360
<v Speaker 4>another shot in that direction. It goes dead quiet, of course,

856
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 4>ring into the ears a little bit. But she said,

857
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 4>after they paused a minute, they heard a huge breaking noises.

858
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 4>They take off again right unprompted, they both just no

859
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 4>one said nothing. They just take off running, she said.

860
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 4>When they got about another quarter mile ish, they were

861
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 4>close to where they were going to break out on

862
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 4>this trail that was at the end of a gravel

863
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.599
<v Speaker 4>cul de sac near their village. Just before they were

864
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 4>up and out of there, this thing again broke. Something

865
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 4>cut their attention. They stopped, and she said, as they

866
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 4>look back, they're looking back, they heard this growling grumble

867
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 4>that was so low you could barely hear it, but

868
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.679
<v Speaker 4>they felt it right, this growl, and her brother shoots

869
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.239
<v Speaker 4>another shot into the air in that direction, and they

870
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:46.159
<v Speaker 4>turned around and got out of there. Now, just be

871
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.639
<v Speaker 4>aware if you're going out to these places and all

872
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:52.039
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden you're feeling like you're lost. Another reason

873
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.559
<v Speaker 4>why should never go alone. Do your best to bring

874
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.559
<v Speaker 4>whatever you need to make sure you don't get lost. Compass, GPS, phone.

875
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see We'll be

876
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 3>right back after these messages.

877
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:13.320
<v Speaker 4>A lot of these phones nowadays have technology as long

878
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 4>as you got self service, of course, but there's apps

879
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 4>you can download to help you find your way around

880
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.280
<v Speaker 4>a little better. Again, some places you're not going to

881
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.639
<v Speaker 4>have the availability, but whatever you do, try not to

882
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 4>go alone. Man. Things are a little crazy. Also. There

883
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:33.480
<v Speaker 4>has been multiple road crossings. There was one spotted near Eureka,

884
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 4>which we weren't too far from at gun Site Mountain

885
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 4>earlier this season. It was a road crossing. They said

886
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.800
<v Speaker 4>it looked almost pitch black in color. It was just

887
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.360
<v Speaker 4>at dust. This was approximately four days ago. This was reported.

888
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 4>The thing cross road heading from the east side of

889
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.960
<v Speaker 4>the road across to the west side. Now anyone who

890
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 4>knows that road kind of runs in the north northeast,

891
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.400
<v Speaker 4>yesh something like that. And it went from the east

892
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 4>side to the west side of the road duck down

893
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 4>in some brush. When these people slowed down, it took

894
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.280
<v Speaker 4>off and they couldn't keep track of it was just

895
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 4>moving so fast and ducking around. Road crossing down near

896
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:18.239
<v Speaker 4>the turnoff for Keenei which is by summ At Lake,

897
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 4>which is on the way to Seward. You get the

898
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.840
<v Speaker 4>turnoff to go to the right going down to keene

899
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 4>I Soldot in the area which runs along Summit Lake

900
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 4>there and you continue you kind of Summit Lake and

901
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.280
<v Speaker 4>then you go by Berke the Creek down into Seward

902
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:35.960
<v Speaker 4>in that area. Road crossing there. They didn't know the area.

903
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 4>They just said it crossed the road towards the Keeney side.

904
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.599
<v Speaker 4>Find guessing it went from what would in escence be

905
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 4>the east side of the road to the west side

906
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.639
<v Speaker 4>of the road. I think that's near a trailhead. I'd

907
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:51.760
<v Speaker 4>have to look it up. There's been a lot in

908
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:55.519
<v Speaker 4>the background, a lot, so what I wanted to share

909
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:59.360
<v Speaker 4>with you. On top of those sidings and just some warnings,

910
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 4>there is something strange, according to what's been shared, happening

911
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:10.000
<v Speaker 4>in the wood Tikchik area. So that's basically from electnik

912
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:13.320
<v Speaker 4>Gick on up to the New Yorkuk River. That's Bristol

913
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:17.519
<v Speaker 4>Bay area. There's been several reports recently from Snake Lake

914
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 4>electni Gik area, multiple sidings from the same family now

915
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:27.800
<v Speaker 4>moving on up towards Lake Nurka. This person who hired

916
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 4>on he had a six pack license to the coastguard

917
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 4>to be a captain on a small vessel or whatever. Right,

918
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.440
<v Speaker 4>So he was working for an outfit. He was in

919
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 4>the middle of transporting goods and not clients to this

920
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 4>particular lodge he works at. He said, he was gone,

921
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 4>just skipping along, heading back up to this particular place

922
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.880
<v Speaker 4>where he works, and he saw a man, or what

923
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 4>he thought was a man in a gilly suit on

924
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 4>the beach and thought it was a lost hunter. Now

925
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 4>this is going back three weeks. He assumed lost hunter.

926
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 4>So he immediately slows down, cuts in and goes towards shores.

927
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 4>He's waving, hey, you okay, you lost He's saying all

928
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.440
<v Speaker 4>this stuff, this what he perceived as a person stands

929
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 4>there looks at him until he gets he said, about

930
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.079
<v Speaker 4>one hundred feet from shore. As he's slowed down to

931
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 4>make sure he doesn't hit rocks and bottom out, he's

932
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.599
<v Speaker 4>yelling and getting a closer look. He said. This thing

933
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 4>was massive, he said, as he was pulling up and

934
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:34.559
<v Speaker 4>gathering his senses on what he is seeing and actually

935
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 4>seeing it, he said that all of a sudden, this

936
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 4>thing just puffed itself up and backed up into the brush,

937
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, backed up into it. He said, yeah,

938
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:49.639
<v Speaker 4>if it wasn't so terrifying, it would have almost been comical.

939
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 4>How this thing postured up, blew itself up and backed

940
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.480
<v Speaker 4>off into the brush, and the excides stepped a couple

941
00:48:56.599 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 4>times and then out of you and was gone. Description

942
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.840
<v Speaker 4>of it was real, matted looking hair, didn't look like

943
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 4>it was well kept. It was big, but a little gangly,

944
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 4>he said. The length of the arms is what made

945
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 4>it look gangly. The way it moved was very robotic.

946
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:21.159
<v Speaker 4>It was like little short movements until it took off,

947
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 4>and then it was real fluid and smooth. He didn't

948
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 4>want to share his name or the outfit he worked for,

949
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.320
<v Speaker 4>because he still works there. He said it was really weird.

950
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.039
<v Speaker 4>Asked if he felt scared, he said not until it

951
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.559
<v Speaker 4>puffed up and backed up and I realized how big

952
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 4>it was. Then he got scared just by sheer size.

953
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 4>He said. There was nothing initially ominous about it. It

954
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.039
<v Speaker 4>just went on its way. After a brief looking at

955
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 4>each other, he said he couldn't make out the face

956
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.519
<v Speaker 4>all that much. The way the lightings was silhouetted. He

957
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:52.840
<v Speaker 4>can make out it had a nose like ours, but

958
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.320
<v Speaker 4>it was flattered to the face. He couldn't really make

959
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.800
<v Speaker 4>out the skin color because of the shading and the

960
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 4>silhouetted He said it was it was massive. He also

961
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 4>reported that later on that evening, on the same day,

962
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:10.039
<v Speaker 4>he heard a scream that originated from that same area.

963
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 4>As he's guestimating. Of course, he's not one hundred percent

964
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:16.840
<v Speaker 4>accurate on that, but a scream, I air raid siren

965
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.079
<v Speaker 4>up to high pitch. Just be aware. There's a bunch

966
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 4>of other little things that have popped up as well.

967
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.400
<v Speaker 4>I'll get into more of those moving forward. Thanks for

968
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:27.840
<v Speaker 4>joining me.

969
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:34.119
<v Speaker 6>They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

970
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:40.159
<v Speaker 1>I want to be.

971
00:50:42.800 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 6>Up step.

972
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Joy this chard, that Chi everything calling Ricket back by

973
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>back Joy for me.

974
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:19.519
<v Speaker 6>Joy, stay right there, you come it right away.

975
00:51:26.519 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Still st st st STUSS games, still step passes, stains

976
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 6>Used US pass
