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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show

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<v Speaker 1>on demand on the iHeartRadio app. In your youth back

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<v Speaker 1>when we started this show, you would kind of shake

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<v Speaker 1>your bottom to.

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<v Speaker 2>That what your bottom?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen?

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<v Speaker 4>This is the jam?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it the move?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard this forever?

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't play in your head.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't just play your head part. You always cut

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<v Speaker 4>it off right, my favorite part?

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<v Speaker 2>Leave you one more?

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<v Speaker 4>That's hurtful. The Dow is a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>It's having another down day on Wall Street right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Dow down six seventy seven. Markets lost a combined four

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars in value yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't panic yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Investors remain concerned over the state of the economy as

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<v Speaker 1>this tariff war standoff, whatever it is, continues. Nasdaq S

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<v Speaker 1>and P five hundred lower as well as you can

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<v Speaker 1>imagine all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Also playing in the background is this ongoing fight over

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<v Speaker 3>a potential government shutdown. The Republican led House is planning

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<v Speaker 3>a vote, I believe, at about one o'clock today our time,

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<v Speaker 3>on a stopgap measure to keep the federal government funded

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<v Speaker 3>beyond Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Politico has said that Vice President J. D.

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<v Speaker 3>Vance met with House Republicans today and said that Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>will be taking the blame for the government shutdown if

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<v Speaker 3>they don't pass this. Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,

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<v Speaker 3>said this is squarely at the feet of Democrats if

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<v Speaker 3>they don't pass something.

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<v Speaker 2>So some dispute there, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we broke this to you as it was breaking yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw this coming. The murder trial of that Orange

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<v Speaker 1>County judge who pulled a gun from his ankle holster

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<v Speaker 1>and shot and killed his wife during an argument in

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<v Speaker 1>their home in Anaheim Hills has ended in a mistrial.

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<v Speaker 1>Jurors could not agree on a unanimous verdict, which means

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<v Speaker 1>that they could not agree, thank you, despite more hours

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<v Speaker 1>of deliberation than even evidence that they heard. This was

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<v Speaker 1>Superior Court Judge Jeffrey Ferguson, who, while sitting at the

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<v Speaker 1>police station said aloud to himself, I killed her. Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen of the jury, convict my ass I did

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<v Speaker 1>it well. The actual jury did not.

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<v Speaker 3>The jury for person was telling a judge yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 3>they were hung on a second degree murder charge eleven

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<v Speaker 3>to one guilty eleven to one guilty they had had

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<v Speaker 3>they unanimously agreed that he was not guilty of the

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<v Speaker 3>second degree murder, they could have considered either a lesser

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<v Speaker 3>involuntary manslaughter conviction, or even acquitted him of all the charges.

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<v Speaker 1>He seemed to be holding back emotion during the week

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<v Speaker 1>long trial. He did not show any obvious reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>the announcement of the mistrial. Here's how it went down.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just joining the story, This was a judge.

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<v Speaker 1>She liked his cocktails. He and his wife and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the sons, they go out to dinner there in

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<v Speaker 1>Orange County.

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<v Speaker 4>They had a couple pops.

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<v Speaker 1>After having a couple pops at home, they get into

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<v Speaker 1>an argument about spending money on a son that he

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<v Speaker 1>had had with another woman before these two were married.

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<v Speaker 1>And as fights over money, off and get it gets

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<v Speaker 1>contentious and he's at the dinner table when he uses

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<v Speaker 1>his fingers in his hand to form the form a gun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, make a gun with your

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<v Speaker 1>hand with your fingers, right, we know how to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>He does that to her at the table and she

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<v Speaker 1>says something effective, why don't you use a real gun.

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<v Speaker 1>They get home a couple more pops, they continue to

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. He claims that he was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>his holster, it went off, it fired, and it killed her.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutors argued, no, he obviously took it out in

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<v Speaker 1>the heat of the moment, shot her and killed her.

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<v Speaker 1>The son, who was there in the home that went

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<v Speaker 1>his mother's last words were, he shot me. He The

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<v Speaker 1>judge also, just moments after he shot and killed her,

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<v Speaker 1>court reporter. Hey, I'm not going to be in tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that. I've shot and killed my wife. Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a jury that could not decide based on

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<v Speaker 1>what I can only believe was a muddled explanation of

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<v Speaker 1>explain the law correctly to these us because the second

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<v Speaker 1>degree murder charge is an implied malice murder. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>how it's been described to me. You have a loaded

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<v Speaker 1>gun and you fire it into a crowd of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mean to shoot and kill any.

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<v Speaker 4>Of those people? No, you do not, But you know

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<v Speaker 4>that what.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing is inherently dangerous. You know that you're operating

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<v Speaker 1>with a conscious disregard of human life. That there alone

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<v Speaker 1>is enough to get get you to a second degree murder.

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<v Speaker 1>And they could not find that in this case. They

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<v Speaker 1>must have believed the defense argument, or at least a

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<v Speaker 1>one person stuck in dug in and would not believe

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<v Speaker 1>anything different than the defense explanation that this guy had

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple pops, he was trying to put the

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<v Speaker 1>gun away, he's got the arthritis in the shoulder, he

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<v Speaker 1>was sloppy, the gun went off and killed her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the prosecutors were basically saying it was a complete

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<v Speaker 3>BS story that he admitted over and over again to

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<v Speaker 3>shooting his wife. He said it outside the house, he

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<v Speaker 3>said it in the police station. The key, at least

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<v Speaker 3>to the defense was he never admitted to intentionally shooting

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<v Speaker 3>his wife. And the way the prosecutors argued that was

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<v Speaker 3>they said, well, this guy's clearly a judge. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>knows the law, and he has the ability with that

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge of the law, he has the ability to answer

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<v Speaker 3>certain questions in certain ways to avoid culpability.

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<v Speaker 1>But he didn't need to intentionally shoot her. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>a second degree murder. Is is right? Yeah, and that's I

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<v Speaker 1>think your point is perfect. That what we understand as

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<v Speaker 1>the basic definition of second degree murder, this actually this

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<v Speaker 1>fits it, and he admits to it. Todd Spitzer, the

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<v Speaker 1>DA says that this is despite the hung jury, this

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<v Speaker 1>and mistrial. This is a success for him because and

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<v Speaker 1>for the ocda's office, because they have an eleven to one.

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<v Speaker 1>They're pretty confident that they could do this again with

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<v Speaker 1>twelve more juriors and come up with a twelve nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Tod Spitzer could take a dump in the morning and

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<v Speaker 1>call it a successful day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that many people would. Many people would. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you made you made it here before

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<v Speaker 3>you had your experiment.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I peed the car. Yeah, I did make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for letting me take that victory letter. Well today,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Coming up next. Did you ever know that

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<v Speaker 1>there was a Life After Death club.

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<v Speaker 4>In Orange County?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Well there is, and they dedicate themselves to learning about

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<v Speaker 1>people after they pass on. It's probably like a grief tool. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you got just open your mind. As we move into

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<v Speaker 1>the next segment, we shall.

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<v Speaker 5>See you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, a lot of American adults withdrawing from romance.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you noticed it's not just young people, but the

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<v Speaker 1>trend seems to be especially pronounced for people born between

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve. They say that love

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<v Speaker 1>is media driven. Not completely wrong, we'll dive into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there is a Life After Life Club and it's

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<v Speaker 1>where exactly where you would think you would find it,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly where you think you would find it, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is what I think of as a wonderful place to

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<v Speaker 1>spend my golden Year's leisure World.

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<v Speaker 4>They're in Orange County.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always a bathroom around the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>The majority of residents in their mid seventies at leisure

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<v Speaker 1>World and for almost twenty years, the Life After Life

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<v Speaker 1>Club has gathered to learn about the healing power of UFOs,

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<v Speaker 1>trance channeling the power of animal communication, near death experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>Their sessions are recorded.

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<v Speaker 1>Their YouTube channel has about thirty thousand subscribers more than

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<v Speaker 1>three point five million visitors, and recently they all got

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<v Speaker 1>together to hear what the dead have to say to

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<v Speaker 1>the living.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very beetlejuice, isn't it. I know, you don't believe

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<v Speaker 4>in any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to come down anywhere because this is

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<v Speaker 1>this could be something that evolves. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are doubters of psychics and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what they had. They had a psychic come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Rose is her name, very New agey, and.

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<v Speaker 4>She speaks.

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<v Speaker 1>She says of spirit. She's speaking of the dead, but

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<v Speaker 1>she would never use that word. She says the dead

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<v Speaker 1>are lifeless and gone, but the spirit which she courts

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<v Speaker 1>is animated, full of love and loved. And they want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Jennifer Rose about not only what the

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<v Speaker 1>dead have to say to the living, but also to communicate.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about the demo here, leisure world. People

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<v Speaker 1>in their mid seventies. Everyone's kind of with their own mortality.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably have loss in their life, recent loss, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it, and they want to believe that there's

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<v Speaker 1>something beyond this world, or some of them want to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that. So that's why they gather for this. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when we pass over? That's what she asks

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<v Speaker 1>the group. She says, as a medium, I bring a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people together in reuniting, and I deliver a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of apologies too.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that fascinating?

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<v Speaker 1>All the people that have rifts with others and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>passes on and that riff remains and it bothers them.

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<v Speaker 1>One woman who didn't want to give her name, confide

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<v Speaker 1>she liked to hear from her brother, who recently died.

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<v Speaker 1>She says they were close until this last year, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>when he lost his mind to cirrhosis and they fell apart,

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<v Speaker 1>so she wanted to patch things up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's where my.

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<v Speaker 3>The questions begin for me, which is oftentimes if you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to if you're gonna go see a medium or

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<v Speaker 3>a psychic or a spirit talk or whatever term, it's

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<v Speaker 3>because you feel like there's some unfinished business that you

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<v Speaker 3>want finished. I didn't get to answer the question, or

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get to tell you that I loved you,

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<v Speaker 3>or I didn't get to hear from you that you

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<v Speaker 3>were proud of me, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think of.

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<v Speaker 3>In my instance, for example, my parents died, but I'd

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<v Speaker 3>never felt like there was unsaid stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We got it all out, we did everything we could.

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<v Speaker 2>We were there.

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<v Speaker 3>I was there when both of them pat like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a complete picture for me if I were to go

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<v Speaker 3>see somebody like this. I don't have any open wounds

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<v Speaker 3>that need to be solved, solved, saved. I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not emotionally broken by my parents and need them

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<v Speaker 1>To hear this something you want to tell them, like

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<v Speaker 1>No. The only news I broke is that it's her

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<v Speaker 4>One woman at.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at people that attend church religiously, they seem

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<v Speaker 2>Or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares it's not for you? Then it's for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing with this kind of stuff. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>about this, it's stupid. It just matters for the people

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<v Speaker 4>If it helps you, like if you're a.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally listen and I mean, there's grief. How many times

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<v Speaker 3>as we said, there's no playbook for grief. We all

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<v Speaker 3>to help, like I said, heal those wounds that you

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And if.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I mean, I think that would be a lot

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to you're going to die in a crash

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe, but I'm going to stick around for probably

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Gary, what happens if our teenagers never date romantically,

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<v Speaker 3>but they just they just don't do it, Like, why,

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<v Speaker 2>We're breaking our children.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a trend.

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<v Speaker 1>Stories we're following for you today. We will soon learn

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<v Speaker 1>more information about that deadly mid air collision between the

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<v Speaker 1>That news conference is set to begin in less than

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump is going to stick up for his buddy

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Muskin, said he is going to support Elon quote.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to buy a brand new Tesla tomorrow morning

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<v Speaker 3>as a show of confidence and support for Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 3>a truly great American. Why should he be punished from

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<v Speaker 3>putting his tremendous skills to work in order in order

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<v Speaker 3>to help make America great again. Sean Hannity Fox News

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<v Speaker 3>also said that he's going to be buying a new Tesla.

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<v Speaker 3>The company's share price suffered its steepest decline in five

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<v Speaker 3>years yesterday, I mean all of Wall Street has been

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of American adults with drawing from romance. In

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<v Speaker 1>Center on American Life, looks like young people is the

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<v Speaker 4>Pulling away the most.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of teens experiencing romantic relationships has dropped quite

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<v Speaker 1>with seventy six percent the generation before and seventy eight

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if, just right off the bat, if part

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<v Speaker 3>of that is just a definition of what is a

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you completely, because it's evolved, hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so because in the old days, in the

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship, together. It went through a process, and there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of formality to that courtship many times,

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<v Speaker 3>not that I was alive then, but i've you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you've seen the movies. That's just kind of the way

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<v Speaker 3>the teenage boy would would have to go and carefully

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<v Speaker 3>the parents, and then they would be in kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Time, because that was the only access you had to

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<v Speaker 1>anything female exactly. There was no playboy that came later.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no cell phone where you could look up porn,

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<v Speaker 1>which came later. There was no casual relationships with text

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<v Speaker 1>or email or any of that stuff that came later.

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<v Speaker 1>If you wanted female interaction, which your brain is programmed

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<v Speaker 1>for if you're a straight male, not just your brain

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<v Speaker 1>but your penis, thank you, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Asked for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to jump through hoops to get it. You

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<v Speaker 1>all of this that I saw. It's deeper into it,

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<v Speaker 1>deeper into.

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<v Speaker 3>The survey here, but it says about fifty six percent

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<v Speaker 3>kept them from pursuing a potential relationship, and about the

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<v Speaker 3>same amount said they had actually refrained from confessing their

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<v Speaker 2>Were worried that it would be a turnoff.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about that, you're attracted to this person, but you

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<v Speaker 2>That you're attracted to them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's been the way, because you're afraid that they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to I remember being wrong, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember feeling that way. I feel like that has been

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<v Speaker 1>That's a constant. I think that, you know, the aloofness

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<v Speaker 1>you see teenagers have has been a constant. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager. Act like you don't care about something. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the cool thing to do, is act like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't care when you care entirely, whether it's your family,

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<v Speaker 1>your friends, a love interest. Even when you care so much,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to act like whatever, because it's not cool

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<v Speaker 1>to care, because then you're opening yourself up and being vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the interesting one of the interesting aspects about it

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<v Speaker 3>is that it might not be bad that that young

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they'll wait until they're actually ready for it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll explain that when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, a reminder, Ihearts Wango Tango is returning to southern California.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's actually headed to the beach this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Saturday, May tenth at Huntington City Beach, Wango Tango's

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<v Speaker 1>all star lineup will feature performances by Doja Cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that what I thought? Megan Trainer, David.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus at Sunset OC's own Gwen's Stefani Oh my.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh, Gwen Stefani on the Beach. Tickets go on sale Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>March fifteenth at ten am fourteenth What did I say?

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteenth? Hot damn Friday is March fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>Do not miss that because of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Friday March fourteenth is when you get your tickets ten

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<v Speaker 3>We'll come back and talk about why it is that

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<v Speaker 3>this lack of romantic activity might actually be a benefit

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, why did you put that on me?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you were thinking the same thing that I said

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<v Speaker 1>out loud. The S and P five hundred has dropped

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<v Speaker 1>escalation in this trade war. It is nine point nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and one points, NASDAC down one point two percent

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<v Speaker 1>as we well, wait what's going to happen when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to tariffs on steel and aluminum coming from Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>President said they planned increase to fifty percent. Was a

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<v Speaker 3>our conversation about politics and people. A little over forty

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<v Speaker 3>they think that Karen Bass did a poor or very

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<v Speaker 3>poor job responding to the fires. Nineteen percent said her

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<v Speaker 3>response was either good or excellent. This is a new

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<v Speaker 3>study from the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies. About

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<v Speaker 3>expecting rain. There has been some rain already today. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when it comes to moving away from romance or relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's saying, Oh, the young people, they're not coupling up.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening? What is it all mean? Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you hit the nail on the head when you said

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about the definition and the labels they're constantly changing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do young people consider what they're doing as in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship or a boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 2>Girl?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably not?

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<v Speaker 1>Have they dated? What is dating even mean? Does this

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<v Speaker 1>mean hooking up with somebody?

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<v Speaker 4>What is hooking up?

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<v Speaker 1>Meanes? Hooking up mean just hooking up or having sex?

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<v Speaker 1>Or what the hell does anything mean anymore? It changes

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Being a well rounded grown up, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't require romantic experience of any kind. Amy Rower is

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<v Speaker 1>a human development professor at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville,

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<v Speaker 1>and she says, often you know adolescents, emerging adulthood, or

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<v Speaker 1>times of uncertainty, and what people need most is often

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<v Speaker 1>just a cheerleader, Whether it's a friend, or a grandparent

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<v Speaker 1>or a coach. Someone who makes them feel secure in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship doesn't have to be a boyfriend or a girlfriend, say,

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<v Speaker 1>Teens can learn social skills, how to make small talk,

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<v Speaker 1>resolve arguments, empathize in all sorts of relationships. The romantic

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<v Speaker 1>relationship the milestone, so to speak. It's not necessary for development.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the one who points out that some research actually

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that young people might benefit from a lack of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>If one study says that compared with teenagers who do date,

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<v Speaker 3>the students who date either very infrequently or not at

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<v Speaker 3>all over a seven year period were seen by their

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<v Speaker 3>teachers as having better leadership skills, better social skills. They

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<v Speaker 3>reported fewer symptoms of depression.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're focusing on things that are not their painess. Uh. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes if you are into a boy or into a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of all you can think about, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not focused on the things that you should be focused on,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's school or work or other relationships. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, sometimes those things make you sad. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>not get what you want, or if it's unrequited love,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing makes you depressed.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, more loss of focus.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they said.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, love isn't always positive because of that more emotional

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<v Speaker 3>whirlwround that you're talking about can be the distraction, but

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<v Speaker 3>it can also be in the worst cases. Abusive adolescent

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<v Speaker 3>girls experience intimate partner violence, they said, at particularly high rates,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when it ends the breakups that we've all

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<v Speaker 3>been through, teenagers don't really have the mechanism to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with it, which is why it's an important thing we

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<v Speaker 3>told our kids when they started doing this whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>about what even what friends they would hang out with,

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<v Speaker 3>but romantic partners, was you've got to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>find somebody or one of the characteristics that we would

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<v Speaker 3>want for our kids is someone that encourages them to

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<v Speaker 3>do what they want or encourages them to be good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, make sure that if my daughter's.

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<v Speaker 3>Going out with the guy that he has good grades

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<v Speaker 3>and wants her to have good grades too, and doesn't constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, I don't worry about your homework, you can do

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<v Speaker 2>it later or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Or or my son dates a girl who encourages him

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<v Speaker 3>to get a job or go to college or something like.

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<v Speaker 1>That thing to better themselves. Yeah, and not just the

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<v Speaker 1>it's very attractive. It's a very attractive thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just don't see.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there aren't enough teenagers out there who have

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<v Speaker 3>the wherewithal, who have the self company of them.

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<v Speaker 1>To do that for you, right, some of those relationships

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<v Speaker 1>that I think that you are more likely to find

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<v Speaker 1>later on. I think when you're teenagers, all your run

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<v Speaker 1>by or your hormones, you don't really care if that

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<v Speaker 1>person is getting good grades or although I must say

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<v Speaker 1>one of my girlfriends, her daughter started dating fourteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>started dat again.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the term is.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy and he's super into church, and he's super

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<v Speaker 1>into school, and her daughter starts studying more, she starts

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<v Speaker 1>getting straight A. I mean, she wasn't a bad student

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with, but suddenly hyper focused on this straight

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<v Speaker 1>a's into church, happier less. I mean, she saw like

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<v Speaker 1>all these benefits in her daughter from this young relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean, it can't happen, I guess at that age.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you would prefer that your kids not hook

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<v Speaker 1>up with the guy who did his class for fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it would be nice. That's the dream, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I just went worst case scenario. That's the dream is

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<v Speaker 1>that your kid or whoever you care about is with

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<v Speaker 1>someone who makes them the best version of themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Too often that it's not the case. People are awful.

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<v Speaker 3>Up next, we'll get into swamp watch a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>about politics, because it is really dominating the economic news today.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's also a potential government shutdown floating around.

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<v Speaker 1>Joey Bosa going to San Francisco Real you with his brother,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the rumor. Well that's a rumor, but that's always

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<v Speaker 1>been what they wanted, the two of them. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna be a one year deal something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about Katie Porter running for governor.

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<v Speaker 1>Bloodbath for the forty nine ers yesterday, man, my brother

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<v Speaker 1>said it best. Or like the Jaguars, like everybody to

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<v Speaker 1>use check greenlaw left. I'm going to see green law

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<v Speaker 1>twice a year. He went to the Broncos. Anyway, that

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation off the air, Gary Shannon will consin.

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