WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.680 A twenty nine fifty five KRCD talk station. I always 2 00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:05.400 look forward to this time of the week. This is 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:08.800 when we get the Daniel Davis Deep Dive, retired Lieutenant 4 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:12.759 Colonel Daniel Davis offering his military expertise on basically a 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.560 lot of talk over the years about warfare, and of 6 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:17.920 course we got some developments with a situation between Russian 7 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:20.519 and Ukraine. Welcome back, Daniel Davis, my friend. It's always 8 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:23.280 a pleasure to having on the program. Indeed, it always 9 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:25.000 is my friend. Glad to be here, and I don't 10 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:26.280 want to take too much time up. Just let you 11 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:29.000 know I did get back with Gary. I texted him yesterday, 12 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:32.280 your producer. So I did reach out to him because 13 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.799 you had invited me, so I reached out to him. 14 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:37.119 So hopefully we'll be having another conversation about that down 15 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.000 the road. And I do appreciate it. I was hoping 16 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:40.799 that's going to work out. Oh, it'll work out. 17 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:41.039 Oh. 18 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.479 I'm honored that you would consider me in your podcast. 19 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:46.240 It's a beautiful thing. Now moving over, Donald Trump just 20 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:49.719 announced he is going to provide weapons to Ukraine, notably missiles, 21 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:53.000 and I believe he specifically identified Patriot missiles and some 22 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:56.280 ammunition which they're running short on. But he's also offerer. 23 00:00:56.320 --> 00:01:00.560 He's also suggested he's going to issue some severe parraffs 24 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:04.680 on Russia and its trading partners within fifty days. I 25 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:06.920 don't know where fifty came from. I suppose we can 26 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:09.799 just ignore that. But it's a two prong attack. We're 27 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:13.599 gonna arm Ukraine with more missiles and AMMO, and we're 28 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:15.640 gonna sanction you down the road if you don't call 29 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:18.319 it quits and end this conflict by some by way 30 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:21.439 of some resolution. Of course, he's been trying to negotiate 31 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.560 a settlement with Putin, and Putin says fine and all 32 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.040 things good on the telephone call, only to start bombing 33 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.959 Ukraine minutes after the phone gets hung up. Now, over 34 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:32.200 the weekend they launched an amazing drone strike. I was 35 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:35.200 it more than six hundred drones and missiles raining down 36 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:40.959 on Ukraine. Practical question, Daniel Davis, Considering as I have read, 37 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:46.480 each Patriot missile costs four million dollars, and the system 38 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.719 itself that fires them, all the rockets and the machinery 39 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.799 and the mechanisms, the equipment to launcher, all of it 40 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:56.200 together is more than a billion dollars. How many drones 41 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:58.760 can you shoot down with the Patriot missile? And can 42 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:01.400 you keep up with a swar of six hundred plus 43 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:05.439 at any given moment in time, Daniel Davis, not a chance. 44 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.919 Your math is right and your logic is sound. There's 45 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:12.240 no way that this is gonna have any any impact 46 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:15.280 and the air war, it's not gonna help Ukraine out. 47 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.840 And in fact, most of these interceptors are not supposed 48 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:20.919 to be used on the Guarantwo drones that you're talking about, 49 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.719 the upgraded drones that Russia has used to now long 50 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:27.879 range fire across the country. Those are best served by 51 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:31.960 other kinds of platforms. But you just can't use those 52 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:34.240 kinds of missiles. You don't have that many. I mean, 53 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:39.639 consider that the United States produces annually about six hundred 54 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:43.240 interceptor missiles annually, and you see one night there was 55 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:45.840 six hundred total air attacks that came in, So you 56 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.800 would exhaust a year's supply if you only fired one 57 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:52.159 per incoming missile. If you've ever seen the video, I've 58 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:54.680 held the Patriot fire, sometimes it's just rapid fire in 59 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:57.919 two and sometimes even three missiles per incoming missiles so 60 00:02:57.919 --> 00:02:59.919 you've got to save those for only the like the 61 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:04.319 hypersonic missiles or the kenzole et cetera, and especially the 62 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:07.719 hypersonic that the Patriots system almost never hits it. So 63 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.080 you see that it's not that good, there's not that many, 64 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:12.719 and it's not going to make a difference. 65 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:17.159 So if you're Vladimir Putin, you're I guess chuckling underneath 66 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:19.319 your breath. In response to the idea that the United 67 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:23.599 States is providing additional weapons, including Patriot missiles, to Ukraine. 68 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:25.840 There was a huge sigh of relief in Moscow, and 69 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:28.759 in fact, I've heard some reaction from the Russian so 70 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:34.400 far since yesterday was anywhere from mocking to laughter to relief. 71 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.120 And in fact, the as you know, markets are more 72 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:42.719 emotional than they are actual market fundamentals. The Russian market 73 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.919 shot up, had a big spike after the event, after 74 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.960 the announcement yesterday, because they recognized that number one, the 75 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.479 air missiles and stuff are not going to change the 76 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:53.439 outcome of the war, or even the air war for 77 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:53.960 that matter. 78 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:55.120 And number two, this. 79 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:57.879 Is legend fifty day period before you're going to get 80 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:01.639 into any kind of sections. Has Trump had held to 81 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.439 a single deadline, he said for himself in regards to Russia, 82 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.759 the answer is no, And I don't know what anybody 83 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:09.879 thinks is going to happen with this fifty day thing. 84 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:11.800 And by the way, the two biggest targets of that 85 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.080 would be China and India. Yes, and I can't imagine 86 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:17.240 that he would risk our economy and getting into a 87 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:21.319 big trade war with those guys over Ukraine and sink 88 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.040 our economy when he's now starting to get ready ramping 89 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:25.839 up for the midterms. So you got to see all 90 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.160 these things together, it's not likely going to make any difference. 91 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:30.720 So the two happened. 92 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.519 The two threats the one you have the weapons, two 93 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.480 you have the sanctions or tariffs. Those are the two 94 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:39.240 things that are designed to get putin to actually get 95 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:41.800 on the phone call and engage in a substantive conversation 96 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.959 about a resolution of the conflict. But the elephant in 97 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.439 the room seems to me to be what that will 98 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:49.399 look like. As you and I have talked time and 99 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.040 time and time again, Russia has not backed off its 100 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:57.240 core key provisions. They have absolute terms that they have 101 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.720 insisted on. Ukraine refuses to abide by those. So it's 102 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.399 a non starter, regardless of whether tariff's actually go in 103 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:05.160 place or missiles actually show up. 104 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:09.680 Right, Russia is locked in and they nothing is going 105 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:13.680 to dissuade them. I interviewed on the show last week 106 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:18.000 a Russian journalist and former member of their military and 107 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.519 ask him point blank that question is because the European Union, 108 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:25.639 especially ursav Anderlean and Manuel Macroan and Keir Starmer, are 109 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:29.120 constantly saying they want to force Russia into a piece 110 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.959 that's acceptable to Kiev. And I said, can they do that? 111 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.040 Is there any chance? And he said, listen, you can 112 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.160 say anything you want, but until you forced the Russian 113 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:42.319 army to move back or to stop them, there's nothing 114 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:44.439 that anybody in what in Moscow is going to do 115 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:46.639 to change what they're doing, because you have to compel 116 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:48.279 it on the front line. And he is one hundred 117 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.279 percent right, and there is no evidence that that's happening. 118 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:53.160 As a matter of fact, in just the last thirty 119 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.800 six hours or so, there has been an acceleration in 120 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:59.199 two key areas where Russia has advanced even further, and 121 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:02.000 the most important area in Putkrolsk, and then in another 122 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:04.959 secondary area big gains on there. So there is a 123 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:08.399 lot of concern on the Ukraine side and the other. 124 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:10.519 Further to the point, give them all the weapons and 125 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.560 munitions and arms that you want to the extent it's feasible. 126 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:19.160 We still have a problem with Ukraine's military. It keeps 127 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:21.160 getting smaller and smaller, a point that you and I 128 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:24.879 have discussed many many times over the months. You have 129 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.560 a twin problem here. Have you got to keep things 130 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.560 in context. You can't just look at the number a while. Apparently, 131 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:35.279 according to Axios, when Trump released this prohibition or whatever, 132 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.079 this pause, it's there's a new package in a realm 133 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:40.600 of ten billion dollars with draw down authority, et cetera. 134 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:45.040 Ten that's compared to the sixty one billion dollars that 135 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.920 Biden last did in May of twenty twenty four. So 136 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.839 you see already that it's like a sixth of what 137 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.639 we've done before, which that sixty one billion made no 138 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.480 difference on the front line. And now then the Ukraine 139 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:00.519 army is even smaller than it was at that time, 140 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:02.519 and they're moving on the back foot. So you see 141 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.199 net net all together, this is just you might slow 142 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.959 down the onslaught and you might not, but you're certainly 143 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:12.120 not gonna turn anything around or change the calculus in Moscow. 144 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:13.800 That's the key point. 145 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.360 Do you think that Trump administration will start putting more 146 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:21.240 pressure on uh on Zelensky at some point to capitulate. 147 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:23.040 I mean, I hate to use that word. I know 148 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.920 that's why Zelenski would view it. But listen, if you 149 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.079 if you ain't holding a good hand and it just 150 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:31.199 keeps getting worse, you know, doubling down is not a 151 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:34.040 viable option for you, mister Zelenski. You're gonna have to 152 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:36.720 tone it down and accept some of Rush's conditions in 153 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:37.639 order to bring a peace. 154 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:41.439 Yeah, to piggyback off your analogy, it's like you're in 155 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.079 a hot stakes poker gamble and you see in your 156 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.279 hand here, you've got a pair of sixes and a 157 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:49.920 bunch of other lower cards and that's it. And you 158 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:53.160 know that there's at least a pair of face cards 159 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.920 on the other side, you know that, and you keep 160 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.560 putting more and more money into the pot, right just 161 00:07:58.199 --> 00:07:59.959 to stave off being called. 162 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:01.759 And that doesn't make any sense. 163 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.959 But to answer to your question, is I don't think so, 164 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.639 because he's that's what Trump should have done. Like the 165 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:11.399 first week of his administration, and he had many opportunities 166 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:14.040 to do it since then, given that he's now basically 167 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:16.279 gone all in and said, Okay. 168 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:17.360 Yeah, we're gonna give you more stuff. 169 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:19.240 We're gonna turn this bigots back on, even if it's 170 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:21.360 only a little bit, it doesn't appear that he has 171 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:26.040 any intention at all to compel Zelensky to do the logical, rational, 172 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:29.560 moral thing for his country. So I think that he's 173 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:31.600 just gonna let it roll. And I don't understand why. 174 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:34.360 Well, not to poke holes in your analogy, which is 175 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:35.840 a good one, so the one I was thinking of, 176 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:40.480 But in that poker game analogy, it's that scenario, except 177 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:42.840 you're playing with your cards face up. 178 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:47.960 Okay, I mean right, seriously, that's that's an even better one. 179 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.120 That's exactly what we're both sides are playing cards space. 180 00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:51.799 Yeah. 181 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.080 That's a good one, man. You can have it and 182 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.120 feel free to use it. Daniel Dae, I will use 183 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:59.320 that today on my show. I promise you thinks for that. 184 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:02.840 It's Daniel Davis Deep Dive every week here at beginning 185 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:04.879 at a thirty on the fifty five KRSSE Morning Show. 186 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.279 You can find his podcast, Daniel Davis Deep Dive just 187 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.480 search for it where you find your podcast, and I'll 188 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.320 look forward to day when I'm on your podcast show. 189 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:11.600 Dad. 190 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:14.039 I can't wait for that day. I promise you we'll 191 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:16.120 see you then. I I love you, brother, We'll talk soon. 192 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:18.720 It's eight thirty eight thirty nine fifty five krs DE 193 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.159 talk stations. You're gonna hear from Gregory forst Luster coming up. 194 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:23.879 Our Ask the Expert is going to join us in 195 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:25.440 the next segments. 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