Speaker 1: Welcome back.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's great to be back. David.
Speaker 3: Good to see I'm wearing shoes that fit, by the way,
Speaker 3: I've got that by buy my own shoes. I've got
Speaker 3: some actual some moccasins. They're nice and comfortable. I don't
Speaker 3: have to impress anybody except for my dog Beans.
Speaker 2: Got them golden slippers and golden them golden slippers. Well,
Speaker 2: a lot of people are looking at this chaos, and
Speaker 2: right away we had gold shoot way up over the weekend.
Speaker 2: You know, on Monday, it was way up, and then
Speaker 2: the American markets open, as Gerald Slinty said, goes down.
Speaker 2: Same thing happened with oil. Oil was way up because
Speaker 2: people are reacting to the reality of it. And then
Speaker 2: apparently there's some manipulation that's happening in the American market somehow,
Speaker 2: the plant Protection team or whatever, this spike protection team,
Speaker 2: I guess, trying to make sure that gold and oil
Speaker 2: don't spike. Nevertheless, the reality is there. It's the same
Speaker 2: type of thing that people we've been talking about for
Speaker 2: a long time. We look at what the federal government
Speaker 2: is doing with debt and deficit, and when you look
Speaker 2: at the inflation and the money creation, all the rest
Speaker 2: of the stuff, those are real factors that are going
Speaker 2: to have an effect. They can manipulate it in the
Speaker 2: short term, they can try to play games with it,
Speaker 2: but it's going to win out in the end. And
Speaker 2: so I went back and looked at I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: there's so many parallels between nineteen seventy three and the
Speaker 2: OPEC coal embargo, and I was kind of curious as
Speaker 2: to how gold had taken off, and it took a
Speaker 2: while before it started taking off because everybody was focused
Speaker 2: on oil, and we see that happening again this time.
Speaker 2: It was the average price in nineteen seventy three, even
Speaker 2: with the Opek goal embargo, was ninety seven dollars. But
Speaker 2: then by the time we got to nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 2: it went from two twenty five to five sixty something
Speaker 2: that year, and then by the beginning of nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: it jumped up to eight hundred and then went back
Speaker 2: down to like the five five sixty level after that.
Speaker 2: But that's kind of the pattern that we're looking at
Speaker 2: an eight and a half time. You know, the peak
Speaker 2: was eight and a half times larger than where it
Speaker 2: was even after the embargo had started.
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking at this.
Speaker 2: And thinking, well, if history rhymes, you know, we could
Speaker 2: be looking at something that's like eight to nine times
Speaker 2: higher and in a couple of years as this stuff
Speaker 2: is perclaying through because old was reacting not just to
Speaker 2: the immediate oil spike, but it was reacting to the
Speaker 2: fact that it had to percolate through the system. And
Speaker 2: we're going to see the effects of the oil price
Speaker 2: increase percolate through the system, and the inflation and the
Speaker 2: stagflation that was happening with all that was percolating through,
Speaker 2: and so it may take a while. But we're seeing
Speaker 2: articles here on KIKO when guy say, well, you know,
Speaker 2: six thousand dollars, another guy says ten thousand dollars, But
Speaker 2: if it went up anywhere close to what it did
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy three, from nineteen seventy three to nineteen eighty,
Speaker 2: it'd be up to forty thousand dollars. Forty five thousand
Speaker 2: dollars is crazy, And.
Speaker 3: Of course to do that out those similarities between those timelines,
Speaker 3: and you're also right to point out there's some sort
Speaker 3: of plunge protection team here in the US when the
Speaker 3: financial sector trying to suppress these prices that are running
Speaker 3: away from us, the price of gold and the price
Speaker 3: of crude oil. As a matter of fact, I was
Speaker 3: spending some time with a friend of mine I'm known
Speaker 3: for over thirty years who's now a high up executive
Speaker 3: and an oil drilling company.
Speaker 1: He travels all over the world.
Speaker 3: This is a very smart guy, and we were watching
Speaker 3: in real time the foreign markets as they opened up
Speaker 3: on Sunday what the prices accrued were. And he just
Speaker 3: looked at me and said, I've been doing this for
Speaker 3: twenty five years. I've never seen anything like this. Has
Speaker 3: never happened. This percentage and jump and the price accrued
Speaker 3: that fast has never happened. And he said, it may
Speaker 3: just start running away where they can't stop it, where
Speaker 3: it's going to get to two hundred dollars a barrel.
Speaker 3: He said, that's a real possibility. So given that in
Speaker 3: his knowledge on that, I looked at the markets as
Speaker 3: they opened up.
Speaker 1: You're exactly right.
Speaker 3: But the difference is, David, if you go back to
Speaker 3: the seventies, in nineteen seventy three was the last year
Speaker 3: that the United States ran a trade surplus. We never
Speaker 3: ran a trade surplus again. After that, it was trade
Speaker 3: deficits and to the trillions, and that's a massive transfer
Speaker 3: of wealth that went to places like China. But at
Speaker 3: the end of the seventies, you're right, gold was near
Speaker 3: six hundred dollars an ounce and then hit eight hundred
Speaker 3: dollars an ounce in nineteen eighty. But you had the
Speaker 3: ability for the United States and the financial sector to
Speaker 3: suppress that, and they did. They did, They had they
Speaker 3: raised interest rates to the teens. There was a lot
Speaker 3: of financial maneuvering to take focus away from the loss
Speaker 3: of purchasing power of the dollar, and they used that
Speaker 3: system for a lot and it worked for a long time.
Speaker 1: They can't do that anymore. The dead of the.
Speaker 3: US in nineteen eighty was one trillion, and it took
Speaker 3: us from the beginning of our history in seventeen seventy
Speaker 3: six to nineteen seventy nine eighty to get there. Now
Speaker 3: we do a trillion every ninety days or so, and
Speaker 3: you and I have covered that. So I don't think
Speaker 3: they have the ability to suppress that runaway gold price
Speaker 3: anymore like they did in nineteen eighty. And you're right
Speaker 3: the predictions of six thousand and ten thousand dollars gold,
Speaker 3: I don't think that's off the mark at all given
Speaker 3: our current economic climate. Last week we talked about and
Speaker 3: again I looked all over to try to see if
Speaker 3: any major network covered this, but you and I talked
Speaker 3: about it. The dollar got surpassed by gold as the
Speaker 3: world's reserve asset. Yes, right, and we've talked about that
Speaker 3: for years. It was always number one was the dollar.
Speaker 3: But because of the massive accumulation by central banks of
Speaker 3: physical gold and then the repricing going into five thousand plus.
Speaker 3: That creates a holding that gold is higher than the
Speaker 3: dollar in the reserve holdings of the central banks. So
Speaker 3: we've crossed a lot of boundaries with the de dollarization
Speaker 3: and the world you know, monetary system. So there's no
Speaker 3: way they can suppress what's truly happening, which is de
Speaker 3: dollarization across the board.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, this article that's talking about
Speaker 2: six thousand dollars gold said, well, you don't have to
Speaker 2: beat the US militarily. All you have to do is
Speaker 2: beat the bond market. Heavy reliance on US dollars by
Speaker 2: foreign nations that are concurrently dependent on imported energy, and
Speaker 2: when all oil price spikes and the dollar strengthens, foreign
Speaker 2: entities are forced into a difficult position. He points out
Speaker 2: that they have to have energy, they have to have food,
Speaker 2: they have to have these commodities, and so they will
Speaker 2: sell their dollar assets, starting with treasuries because they're the
Speaker 2: deepest and the most liquid, to essentially buy oil. The
Speaker 2: dynamic creates a cycle where foreign nations effectively use the
Speaker 2: US pond market to finance their energy deficits, driving eels higher,
Speaker 2: and so that's what it starts to become a cycle
Speaker 2: feedback cycle with that as well, and so it's going
Speaker 2: to put pressure on them to basically more pressure on
Speaker 2: them to dump their treasure bills, which there we don't
Speaker 2: like because of the actions of both Biden with his
Speaker 2: sanctions and Trump continuing the sanctions and adding tariffs and
Speaker 2: other things like that. So people are already trying to
Speaker 2: move away because we are the mad Hedgemon. Sounds like
Speaker 2: some kind of a Pokemon thing, a mad Edgemond that's
Speaker 2: out there, and so everybody's trying to pull back away
Speaker 2: from this anyway, but they'll have to do it out
Speaker 2: of necessity. So time is really on Iran's side, and
Speaker 2: they've thought about this from a strategic standpoint, which obviously
Speaker 2: the Planners and the Pentagon never thought about anything other
Speaker 2: than we have the most planes and the most bombs,
Speaker 2: and we can you know the kind of stuff that
Speaker 2: you hear Pete Hes boasting about all the time.
Speaker 3: Well, it reminds me a little bit of the von
Speaker 3: Schliefen Plan from World War One with the Germans. They
Speaker 3: had all this time, the decades to draw this thing up.
Speaker 3: They were always looking into the best way to use
Speaker 3: troop movements and whatever. They're trying to keep up with technology,
Speaker 3: and it was it wasn't even about any sort of
Speaker 3: real goals other than just defeating something. But they kept
Speaker 3: drawing up this plan and drawing up this plan, and
Speaker 3: finally it got into action the von Schleepen planet World
Speaker 3: War one, and they thought it was about a quick victory.
Speaker 3: And of course you fast forward, you know, four plus years,
Speaker 3: and we just had the Great Civil War of the
Speaker 3: West and millions died and it's a waste land, just
Speaker 3: an utter carnage and evil. So you know, these military
Speaker 3: types when they they have this.
Speaker 1: And it's also the aggressors too, isn't it. It's like
Speaker 1: the people who started off, they always want to but
Speaker 1: srieg or something. You know, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: The Lightning War, shak and awe remember sha Kanah, I
Speaker 3: followed behind Shakanah, didn't shock. It are all very much
Speaker 3: in effect, you know, I can attest to that there
Speaker 3: was a there was I think a delusion behind uh
Speaker 3: this type of thinking, and it's it's demonic in my opinion.
Speaker 3: They always have some arrogance, their uburs behind them that
Speaker 3: the rest of us are just we don't think this way.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at I don't see any upside. I mean,
Speaker 3: how can you not convince me that this is just
Speaker 3: some sort of humiliation ritual for chaos and uh like
Speaker 3: we're being destroyed from within with bad policy. Does anybody
Speaker 3: really think that we're going to win this in some way?
Speaker 3: And what is winning? When the world markets? You know
Speaker 3: how fragile this system is. You look at the price
Speaker 3: of cruit. It's going to destroy whatever if you've if
Speaker 3: you had any economic growth or any sort of progress,
Speaker 3: it's being destroyed right now.
Speaker 1: You're going to take to recover.
Speaker 2: War Pete thinks that we're going to win this because
Speaker 2: he doesn't think about anything other than destruction and death.
Speaker 2: And what a clown he is.
Speaker 1: I saw just a clown.
Speaker 2: I saw, you know, a couple of retired colonels and generals,
Speaker 2: and Gregor was one of them, and another guy, not
Speaker 2: in one interview, but in a couple of different ones,
Speaker 2: and they were saying, look at this press briefing that's
Speaker 2: being given by war Pete and by Dan Kine, the
Speaker 2: chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, And he said,
Speaker 2: Dan King gets up there. He starts giving the standard presentation, Well,
Speaker 2: we got this many planes that we sunk, this many
Speaker 2: ships and all the a lot of the stuff that's
Speaker 2: kind of like what warpete does. But he says, I've
Speaker 2: set through those briefings, you know, through these different wars
Speaker 2: we've had, you know, Vietnam and Iraq and all the
Speaker 2: rest of the stuff, and it's meaningless. You know, this
Speaker 2: is like Robert McNamara's body count. It really doesn't mean
Speaker 2: anything in the bigger picture of things. And they've lost
Speaker 2: the bigger pictures.
Speaker 3: You point out, well, there's a lot of echoes of
Speaker 3: McNamara and Rumsfeld here.
Speaker 1: But we've reached a new level of stupid.
Speaker 3: We're in a new and I'm sorry it is terrifying.
Speaker 3: This is this is the Secretary of War. I mean
Speaker 3: you renamed it, you own it, and you're right, a
Speaker 3: secretary of war crimes. I mean this just to start
Speaker 3: off the war by killing what is one hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy seven members of a girl's that's confirmed of anti
Speaker 3: war dot com And that's been confirmed.
Speaker 1: They can deny it all they want, but that's what
Speaker 1: they did. That's right, And this.
Speaker 2: Is just and more importantly, Tony. They don't have the
Speaker 2: decency to apologize for it, and they don't have the
Speaker 2: respect for the intelligence of the American people to even
Speaker 2: come up with a plausible denial. Right, that's what Trump
Speaker 2: was doing. Oh, tomahawks, everybody's got tomahawks. Ron's got tomahawks.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Ron did that to their own people. You know,
Speaker 2: that kind of stupidity. And you know, oh, well our accurate,
Speaker 2: Our missiles are accurate. Well, if you're saying it was
Speaker 2: a Tomahawk, then that's an accurate missile. Like I said,
Speaker 2: when I was talking about this earlier in the week,
Speaker 2: I had a friend who was in the military, and
Speaker 2: he said, yeah, we talked about the cruise missiles. We
Speaker 2: can pick which window of the Krimlin we want to
Speaker 2: put it through. That may have been a little bit
Speaker 2: of an exaggeration, but not by much. And so he says, yeah,
Speaker 2: everybody's got tomawks. Absolute lie. I mean, they don't even
Speaker 2: sell those to Israel. And then he proceeds from there.
Speaker 2: That's the same kind of lives we saw in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: They have no respect for intelligence and why should they
Speaker 2: people voted for them, Well.
Speaker 1: It's all based off a lie.
Speaker 3: Whether or not they intentionally did it or they just
Speaker 3: skipped over the fact that they're doing their due diligence
Speaker 3: of what target.
Speaker 1: Both are lies, both have.
Speaker 3: Ill intent, and every aspect of this I've seen in
Speaker 3: real time. I've seen, you know, they're so called smart
Speaker 3: bombs that hit civilian targets, and it is so awful.
Speaker 3: You have to imagine if you're hitting civilian targets and
Speaker 3: maybe it's not on purpose, but they are collateral damage,
Speaker 3: you are exacting a toll, and you are creating death
Speaker 3: and destruction. It should be such a solemn thing that
Speaker 3: you have to you're forced to do it. We just
Speaker 3: went and did this with no provocation, with no reason,
Speaker 3: and there's no strategic or defense advantage to this. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean the people that did this in in my opinion,
Speaker 3: I mean somebody like Pete. This is just a devoid
Speaker 3: of any sort of Christian character or understanding of the
Speaker 3: real consequences of war.
Speaker 1: And I'm afraid from my.
Speaker 3: Country when I see stuff like this is this is
Speaker 3: complete arrogance.
Speaker 2: Well, Senator John Kennedy apologized for it, and he's the
Speaker 2: only one Democratic Republican who's apologized for it. Now, some people.
Speaker 2: Some Democrats applauded him for apologizing for it. So we
Speaker 2: got it wrong. We didn't mean to do that. But
Speaker 2: that was not the response of Trump, not the response
Speaker 2: of Warpete. Warpete says, you know, uses it as an
Speaker 2: occasion to boast about the fact we don't target civilians
Speaker 2: and our missiles are accurate and so forth. So you know,
Speaker 2: that's his response. Couldn't possibly happen. That's Scott Ritter, when
Speaker 2: he was talking about it, said, you know, he is
Speaker 2: still haunted by one particular case like this that he
Speaker 2: was involved in. He said, we did our due diligence.
Speaker 2: We had really good reason to believe that that was
Speaker 2: where some of Saddam Whu Saints people were. But he
Speaker 2: said it turned out we were wrong with all the
Speaker 2: due diligence. He said, I live with that every day.
Speaker 2: I think about the consequence of that. But he said,
Speaker 2: what's happening with this. They've got so many targets. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like what they did in Minnesota. They said,
Speaker 2: we want X number of arrests every day, Just go
Speaker 2: out there and grab people. And he said, that's that
Speaker 2: leads to sloppy work. And yet you know it might
Speaker 2: be something might involve this anthropic clauds AI because they
Speaker 2: were using that in terms of targeting. And yet when
Speaker 2: you look at that, what Pete Hegseth wants to do
Speaker 2: is give even more discretion to AI if AI made
Speaker 2: the mistake, or if it was old data that they had,
Speaker 2: or whatever it was. He wants to He's already shut
Speaker 2: down a lot of the oversight and he wants to
Speaker 2: shut down even more oversight of this. And he has
Speaker 2: the audacity to say, we don't target civilians. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: just kill everybody. Right, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I will tell that to the people in Dresden and
Speaker 3: the fire bombing of Tokyo.
Speaker 1: That's right, you know me Li we had, we had.
Speaker 3: You could go on and on if you know history,
Speaker 3: and that happens.
Speaker 1: That's all countries.
Speaker 3: This happens to in any sort of military power that's
Speaker 3: fighting a war, there's always some sort of darkness by
Speaker 3: nobody gets out of that one scathe.
Speaker 1: But to fight this war you have to.
Speaker 3: I have not seen a plausible explanation other than this
Speaker 3: is Operation Epstein Fury, that we're acting on behalf of
Speaker 3: a foreign government during their bidding.
Speaker 1: It's all.
Speaker 3: That's all I see, Yeah, some sorts of this is
Speaker 3: not in the American interests.
Speaker 2: It's despicable and it goes against everything he promises his
Speaker 2: own voters. I don't understand why there hasn't been a
Speaker 2: bigger price, but there may be a bigger price to
Speaker 2: pay by the time they get to the election.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But so that was one person saying, you know, six
Speaker 2: thousand by mid year in terms of gold, based on
Speaker 2: what he's looking at. You've got another analyst saying he
Speaker 2: thinks ten thousand by twenty twenty nine. And he said,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody talking about ten thousand dollars gold just
Speaker 2: a year or two ago. But I thought you were crazy.
Speaker 2: Now it doesn't look see doesn't, because it spiked up
Speaker 2: to what fifty three hundred? Was that about fifty three
Speaker 2: hundreds were it? God?
Speaker 3: Yeah, over the first at the weekend of the strike
Speaker 3: on the twenty eighth, going into the first part of March,
Speaker 3: it was fifty three hundred. And then there's some profit
Speaker 3: taking and some self But we've crossed so many boundaries here, David,
Speaker 3: it's hard. We're not going to go back to the
Speaker 3: way that gold pricing used to be. And there's a
Speaker 3: few different times when twenty and eleven is another great
Speaker 3: example of when they were able to suppress gold again
Speaker 3: by outwardly showing that there's going to be fiscal responsibility
Speaker 3: and that the Fed's not going to do massive quantitative
Speaker 3: easing and tarp and all the rest of that stuff
Speaker 3: and bail out these banks anymore, and people calm down.
Speaker 3: Silver sold off, gold sold off. I don't think that'll
Speaker 3: happen again. I don't think that they can truly suppress
Speaker 3: either crude anymore or the the gold markets.
Speaker 1: I don't think they can suppress. And so ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars gold very plausible within this decade, and all we
Speaker 1: would need is just to continue down the path that
Speaker 1: we're on right now. I mean, gold was I remember
Speaker 1: I went to the trading floor in August of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four and I was leaving and I did a
Speaker 1: post about it, and I thought, this is really historic.
Speaker 1: There's twenty five hundred dollars gold.
Speaker 3: That's so crazy because I've followed this for so many years,
Speaker 3: and I was like, twenty five hundred, what a milestone.
Speaker 3: Well here we are, and it's twenty twenty six, not
Speaker 3: quite two years later at all, and we're looking at
Speaker 3: talking about ten thousand dollars gold at the end of
Speaker 3: the decade. I think completely plausible because in six thousand,
Speaker 3: definitely within striking distance.
Speaker 1: Just let this keep going. Yeah, you got to well.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It will they have war game this out.
Speaker 2: We didn't plan this, but they did. They planned the
Speaker 2: response absolutely.
Speaker 3: All they have to do, like IRN right now, and
Speaker 3: think about the oil exporting countries and those who rely
Speaker 3: they're going to get a windfall profit from this. Of
Speaker 3: course there's going to be massive downturns in other parts
Speaker 3: of the economy, but think of the amount of margin
Speaker 3: that these countries are going to be able to bring
Speaker 3: in just the price of crude alone, and the fact
Speaker 3: that the straight of Horror Moves is blocked ninety percent,
Speaker 3: and that's where what twenty percent of the outflows used
Speaker 3: to come from globally, so that all bets are off.
Speaker 2: And it's twenty five percent of all shipping that goes
Speaker 2: through the straight of Horror moves because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of other stuff that besides oil that goes through their food,
Speaker 2: clothes and electronics and all the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 2: And so it is a massive, massive, oversight to have
Speaker 2: the arrogance to think that we're going to take them
Speaker 2: out so quickly. We don't even have to worry about that,
Speaker 2: we don't have to plan about that. Hatchcar sixty one said,
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Speaker 2: i'll tell you it's not having an easy time of stacking.
Speaker 2: And that is Dubai. They said their gold flows have
Speaker 2: been crushed because it's not just as trait of removes.
Speaker 2: These are flights. You know, they're putting the they're not
Speaker 2: putting the gold on a tanker, it's not that heavy,
Speaker 2: but they're putting on airplanes, and so many problems with
Speaker 2: air flights being restricted as well.
Speaker 1: It's not just sea freight.
Speaker 2: That's restricted, it's air freight that's restricted as well, and
Speaker 2: so it's created a just like we see these tankers
Speaker 2: are all full and sitting there in the water. They said,
Speaker 2: that's a record amount and never had that much oil
Speaker 2: setting on the water in tankers. And they don't have
Speaker 2: any onshore storage facilities left with this stuff either, And
Speaker 2: so you're getting the same type of thing with gold,
Speaker 2: and it is stacking up, and so ironically you're getting
Speaker 2: these places like in Dubai and other places where they
Speaker 2: are so heavily stocked with gold, they're getting desperate to
Speaker 2: move the inventory. They're discounting it there. So that's kind
Speaker 2: of crazy way to look at it. I got a
Speaker 2: question here, Tony for you from Jason Parker night so
Speaker 2: the storm. He said, ask Tony what the sourcing challenges
Speaker 2: for silver are compared to a couple months ago. Here
Speaker 2: it's getting really hard to get inventory. It's getting harder
Speaker 2: and harder. And what's crazy about that is that there's
Speaker 2: two prongs to that. The one side, the refiners mostly
Speaker 2: aren't melting the silver, which that would help with supply.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly why they.
Speaker 3: Aren't, but there's a lot of of the and I
Speaker 3: think maybe the price volatility is one reason.
Speaker 1: But a lot of the refiners are not melting.
Speaker 3: This rise in prices and then the turn back of
Speaker 3: those prices, the volatility has hurt a lot of people.
Speaker 1: It has hurt a lot of the supply.
Speaker 3: Chains, hurt a lot of dealers, and luckily wise Wolf
Speaker 3: we've came through that pretty much unscathed. But I have
Speaker 3: to pay attention to it twenty four. I have to
Speaker 3: dream about it and where I'm going to land because
Speaker 3: it's like it's all over the place. So my mind
Speaker 3: is constantly calculating what the next by batch is going
Speaker 3: to be, and what I'm going to sell off and
Speaker 3: what my percentages are. But I know, I know for
Speaker 3: a fact it did hurt a lot, so it's it's
Speaker 3: really disrupted supply.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you're living in an environment of hyperinflation,
Speaker 2: you know, like the Baymar Republic or.
Speaker 1: The h what was the African Nations Zimbabwe? I think
Speaker 1: they had Zimbabwe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, you know, so we see that and
Speaker 2: we've seen the tales of people. It was even happening
Speaker 2: in Argentina there, you know, people talking about how merchants
Speaker 2: would have bread on the shelf and they would have
Speaker 2: to constantly be changing the price throughout the day for
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. That's the environment that you live in.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't envy you at all. Why is
Speaker 2: the wolf?
Speaker 3: It's it's difficult, but I'm glad that I have this opportunity.
Speaker 3: I think it's a it's a good puzzle to solve,
Speaker 3: and I get to help a lot of people because
Speaker 3: if you if you've been buying from Wolfpack for a while,
Speaker 3: like you've, you've protected the purchasing power of your dollar,
Speaker 3: even with paying premiums, even with you know, shipping and
Speaker 3: all the rest of the stuff that we have to charge.
Speaker 3: You've done well to protect yourself. And I think that
Speaker 3: will be the case for many years to come. If
Speaker 3: you're putting your dollars and Fiat into metals, I think
Speaker 3: you still got a long way to go to protect yourself.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There was a comment from a guy who worked
Speaker 2: for Goldman Sachs in terms of commodity things, and he says,
Speaker 2: we've always seen this type of thing in the past,
Speaker 2: big movement out of soft stuff like technology stocks and
Speaker 2: things like that into the real stuff. And so we're
Speaker 2: at a switching point right now where that is happening again.
Speaker 2: The pendulum is moving again towards commodities like oil and
Speaker 2: base metals and precious metals and stuff like that. Infrastructure,
Speaker 2: and you better believe there's going to be a lot
Speaker 2: of spending on infrastructure because nothing choose up infrastructure like wars,
Speaker 2: especially now they can target the infrastructure so precisely. And
Speaker 2: we've seen that already in Russia and Ukraine and so
Speaker 2: and already all four we've seen that people, you know,
Speaker 2: have the US and Israel targeting the oil refineries of
Speaker 2: Iran and they're returning the favor. So even if this
Speaker 2: war were to end tomorrow, the knock on effects of
Speaker 2: this are going to be very, very long. It's going
Speaker 2: to be a big bottleneck of constipation from these tankers,
Speaker 2: just like we saw when Trump took the boot off
Speaker 2: of our necks with a lockdown. It created all kinds
Speaker 2: of a you know, train wreck and derailments with the
Speaker 2: supply chain and took a long time to iron that out,
Speaker 2: and a lot of the effects of things that happened
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty it's still not been ironed out.
Speaker 2: North American househip poet, he says, for all of Trump's bluster,
Speaker 2: isn't interesting that he hasn't taken credit for doubling the
Speaker 2: price of gold, because that's a metric of failure for him,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the status part about all of this
Speaker 3: is it's so predictable. Yeah, we talk about this for
Speaker 3: years like.
Speaker 1: This is what you know.
Speaker 3: You have currency wars and trade wars, and then you
Speaker 3: have kinetic actual wars. You could have avoided all of
Speaker 3: this though it was a choice, like we.
Speaker 2: It's, you know, the the only thing we four shim
Speaker 2: shoes and what what is the size of your foot?
Speaker 2: That's how I size up a man?
Speaker 1: Right? And what it was?
Speaker 3: Why do we have to have Trump? Was Nero not available?
Speaker 3: Could we not get that guy? Burn the whole thing down?
Speaker 3: I just think, you know, very much, yes, because of
Speaker 3: very much on the on the spectrum of that. It's
Speaker 3: really sad to watch David. And who knows where all
Speaker 3: these prices are going to go? I mean, I think
Speaker 3: the most something that sticks with me and what when
Speaker 3: I look at prices or price predictions for metals or
Speaker 3: it could be a bitcoin too, is just how small
Speaker 3: the markets are. I mean, gold's like a twenty trillion
Speaker 3: dollar market cap, but the world is like a six
Speaker 3: hundred trillion dollar asset pool. So I mean you're talking
Speaker 3: about just a small amount goes into golds and I
Speaker 3: think silvers like us was it three trillion dollar market caps?
Speaker 3: Something may maybe four. It's a small thing. Bitcoins like
Speaker 3: two compared to the hundreds of trillions that are supposedly
Speaker 3: floating in currencies and sovereign wealth funds and bonds and
Speaker 3: real estate and other things around the world. And when
Speaker 3: that stuff and you're right, the Goldmen Sachs Trader is right,
Speaker 3: volatility and then uncertainty, these all those funds are going
Speaker 3: to migrate into something else that's more stable that you
Speaker 3: can count.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know where tech's going to go.
Speaker 3: You don't know where any of these like even medical
Speaker 3: or any of these stuff that's going to go.
Speaker 2: Well, even tech is going to be affected by this stuff.
Speaker 2: They were saying. You know, the Gulf States have been
Speaker 2: big purchasers of this stuff, and they were ramping up
Speaker 2: data centers, not just buying in video chips, but you know,
Speaker 2: entire data centers that they were in the process of
Speaker 2: budgeting to build. That ain't going to happen now because
Speaker 2: they're going to have to They got other things on
Speaker 2: their plate that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: And it's it's.
Speaker 2: Amazing when you look at how complicated all the stuff is,
Speaker 2: and it just comes from the hubris of central planners
Speaker 2: who think that they understand the way the world works.
Speaker 2: Nobody does, you know. It's it's like Leonard and what's
Speaker 2: the guy's name that did eyepencil, Leonard Reid was that
Speaker 2: his name. And you know he talks about how nobody's
Speaker 2: planning a pencil, but it's all this kind of invisible
Speaker 2: hand of Adam Smith type of thing. And that's the problem.
Speaker 2: You know, Trump and his planners have shown that they
Speaker 2: don't understand the first thing about how the global economy works.
Speaker 2: If he did, he wouldn't be trying to throw a
Speaker 2: monkey wrench into it all the time with his ego
Speaker 2: pnomics of tariffs. You know, I don't like this guy
Speaker 2: over here who's the leader of that country, so I'm
Speaker 2: going to put you know, one hundred percent tarif on
Speaker 2: him tomorrow. You know that type of thing. It's stupid,
Speaker 2: It's beyond stupid. A Syrian girl says, with the projected
Speaker 2: prices of a crude to all, I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people are in danger of dying in the dark and
Speaker 2: cold next winter. Yeah, and of going broke as well.
Speaker 2: In the UK, one guy was talking about how uh,
Speaker 2: liquid natural gas is something they've been pushing them toward.
Speaker 2: They said, Oh, we don't want to have coal and
Speaker 2: we don't want to have oil, they're too dirty. So
Speaker 2: you're going to burn gas. Well now they don't have
Speaker 2: the gas, and they said they're going to pay a
Speaker 2: lot more for it. That's why Lindsey Graham is rubbing
Speaker 2: his hands together like a canniving fly and saying, we're
Speaker 2: going to get rich. You know, he's going to his
Speaker 2: military industrial people are going to get rich replacing the
Speaker 2: bombs and then they're going to get Richie thinks, because
Speaker 2: they're going to control thirty one percent of the world's oil.
Speaker 1: But you can't get it out.
Speaker 2: You know, if iron blows up the refineries and their
Speaker 2: ports and the oil wells, oil fields and things like that,
Speaker 2: how they're going to get to that oil. They can't
Speaker 2: get to the oil in Venezuela. So you know, all
Speaker 2: of that stuff is stupid. Yeah, it's stupid.
Speaker 1: It's good of being rich that the world's on fire.
Speaker 1: I mean, really have they do? They think that these
Speaker 1: things through I don't know, you know what, we didn't talk.
Speaker 2: About it, and they have their finger on the button
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: That that's exactly right, and they'll verifying and people like
Speaker 3: Lindsay Graham that actually have power. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 3: that's we get the leaders that we deserve.
Speaker 1: I think at some level like that. The American people
Speaker 1: that deserve to get him.
Speaker 3: South Carolina was like, well, he does support Israel, and
Speaker 3: you know that's what you get, folks, you get Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't talk about David As. We didn't talk.
Speaker 3: There was one thing in all of the news headlines
Speaker 3: and I thought, oh, we better highlight that, and that
Speaker 3: was the fact that black Rock and Black Stones stop
Speaker 3: the outflows of some of their private equity funds. And
Speaker 3: they're not the only ones. There's others JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the contagion is spreading.
Speaker 2: I think it's up like three or four of them
Speaker 2: now that have put limits on that.
Speaker 1: That that is something to watch.
Speaker 3: That didn't Again, that's another thing that didn't make a
Speaker 3: lot of headlines, just in the circles that you and
Speaker 3: I'd pay attention to some of the things. But I
Speaker 3: think that is a good indicat this huge possible credit
Speaker 3: crunch and liquidity.
Speaker 1: Issues bank runs.
Speaker 3: I've had some people text me asked me about banking,
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm very cautious. Yeah, looking at how
Speaker 3: much liquidity you've got in a bank at any given time.
Speaker 1: I always be careful of that.
Speaker 2: And we look at the private equity site. I just
Speaker 2: yesterday I looked it up because I asked Jeryl Clinty
Speaker 2: on air, said so just tied together with commercial role estate.
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I looked it up after the show, and it's like,
Speaker 2: that's a huge part of this private equity fund. The
Speaker 2: things that Jeryl Clinty has been talking about trend in
Speaker 2: journal for a long time, the commercial real estate bust
Speaker 2: because of what happened with twenty twenty and what Trump
Speaker 2: did his first round of chaos and control, and so
Speaker 2: the you know, this, this ongoing, very slow moving juggernaut
Speaker 2: of disaster is starting to now manifest itself through some
Speaker 2: of these hedge funds. There absolutely a citizen of Americaca says,
Speaker 2: I remember not too long ago, we had a flash
Speaker 2: flood and a bunch of our young schoolgirls were washed
Speaker 2: away at Camp Mystic, and I thought to myself, how horrible,
Speaker 2: and the nation grieved. But somehow they can't be horrified
Speaker 2: by this, and they can't accept any responsibility for it either.
Speaker 2: And that's the key thing, isn't it. You know, that's
Speaker 2: one of the first things that happens in war first
Speaker 2: casualties truth, but it's also the second casualty is the
Speaker 2: humanity of the people in the other country. You know,
Speaker 2: we treat them as some kind of subhuman. They're on
Speaker 2: a different team now, you know, they've got a different
Speaker 2: flag and different leaders, so they're no longer human and
Speaker 2: we don't regard them as human. And that's a good
Speaker 2: example of it.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine how horrifying it is years later when you
Speaker 3: realize they probably weren't the enemy to begin with, that's right,
Speaker 3: even if you did dehumanize them. And then we learn
Speaker 3: about there wasn't any dance Iranians that I remember from
Speaker 3: my research on nine to eleven. So there's so many
Speaker 3: lies that used to write the first casualty of wars
Speaker 3: the truth, and then your humanity goes as well, and
Speaker 3: then you join into the ceremony of things. And that's
Speaker 3: why I want to be a thousand miles away from
Speaker 3: whatever this is, just karmically spiritually. Don't want any of
Speaker 3: it on me, and I don't want anybody in my audience,
Speaker 3: anybody listens to this, to be pulled in at all
Speaker 3: from this propaganda. It's so predictable what's going on, but
Speaker 3: it's also really sad.
Speaker 2: We get in these seasons of war and this bloodlust
Speaker 2: kicks in for everybody, which is truly insane. And you know,
Speaker 2: when you look at it, the lies that this all
Speaker 2: began with, you know, completely ignoring our history with Iran,
Speaker 2: I could understand why Iran would think of us as
Speaker 2: Satan when you look at the fact that we've been
Speaker 2: coming after them for seventy three years. I mean we
Speaker 2: not only we don't leave them alone, we overthrow their government.
Speaker 2: We put in a king with a horrific secret police
Speaker 2: that arrests, tortures, and kills people and trained by the
Speaker 2: CIA and massade. They suffer under that for a couple
Speaker 2: of decades. Then we start pushing in a planned parenthood
Speaker 2: and all of our disgusting values into the country. And
Speaker 2: then when they overreact in both of these ways and
Speaker 2: they come in with a very strict Islamic government, what
Speaker 2: we do is we ally ourselves to Saddam Hussein and
Speaker 2: try to wipe them off the face of the map.
Speaker 2: When that doesn't work, we do the kind of stuff
Speaker 2: we're doing now. We assassinate one leader after the other,
Speaker 2: and then we attack the country. It's like, what's going on.
Speaker 2: All of this is being done from our perspective, not
Speaker 2: from their perspective. But the American public looks at it
Speaker 2: and all they know about with Iran is, well, they
Speaker 2: kidnapped people at our embassy, and so you know they're
Speaker 2: the aggressor. They kidnapped and held these people. And if
Speaker 2: you understand the history behind Iran contra, you know just
Speaker 2: how involved Ronald Reagan's campaign manager, Bill Casey. While Bill
Speaker 2: Casey from the OSS who was one of the founders
Speaker 2: of the CIA, and how he told them, you know,
Speaker 2: cutting deals with these people that were supposed to be unapproachable.
Speaker 2: We'll give you spare parts, you give us money, and
Speaker 2: we set up a secret war because that's what they
Speaker 2: always want, you know, we get black market money for
Speaker 2: a secret war. We sell you parts so that you
Speaker 2: can kill people, and the pressure own people. It's just
Speaker 2: insane when you look at it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny.
Speaker 3: Somebody played clips of Condoleeza Rice and she was saying, well,
Speaker 3: Iran has been our enemies, you know, for forty seven years,
Speaker 3: and I thought, well, except for some brief interludes like
Speaker 3: when when you delp with you know, hostages for missiles,
Speaker 3: whether they're in Iran contra, you know, things like that,
Speaker 3: or the flight that supposedly George H. W. Bush took
Speaker 3: over there secretly to meet with the Ranian officials, to
Speaker 3: the whole old the hostages a little longer till after
Speaker 3: the inauguration of Reagan. You know, that's right, there's all
Speaker 3: sorts of history that goes back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't enough to win the election.
Speaker 2: You had to keep the hostages there until the day
Speaker 2: that Reagan has worn in. Yeah, absolutely, you know. And
Speaker 2: I saw one of these Iranian officials and he was
Speaker 2: he teaches school. Now, he wasn't really in the government,
Speaker 2: but he was very much a part of the regime.
Speaker 2: And so I tell this to the younger Iranians that
Speaker 2: they don't believe me how evil America is. And he says,
Speaker 2: and he was so convinced. And I think what happened
Speaker 2: with that Iranian jetliner, I think that was an accident.
Speaker 2: I think it was exactly the same kind of accident
Speaker 2: that took down Flight eight hundred. It's just that they
Speaker 2: couldn't cover it up when it happened to a foreign
Speaker 2: country's commercial airliner. But he thought that was deliberate, because
Speaker 2: that's his opinion of America, and I can understand that.
Speaker 2: But you know, when we get upset with the Iranians
Speaker 2: because they don't like their government or whatever their government leaders,
Speaker 2: just understand what the rest of the world might think
Speaker 2: about Americans and how this national security state has undermined
Speaker 2: the security and the safety and the peace and the
Speaker 2: prosperity of you and your family, because it's going to
Speaker 2: have these chickens are going to come home to roost
Speaker 2: talk about terrorist attacks. I don't think that this FBI
Speaker 2: document is credible, but I think the US government is
Speaker 2: perfectly capable of doing a terrorist attack false flag, and
Speaker 2: I think there's people around the world that would love
Speaker 2: to do this and not have it be a false
Speaker 2: flag because of what we've done to people for so long.
Speaker 2: We're just making this country so dangerous by the actions
Speaker 2: of the CIA in the Pentagon.
Speaker 3: Multi factored danger in there because people once there is
Speaker 3: a false flag or attack, they will fall in line.
Speaker 3: And Israel people like us that will see through it.
Speaker 3: We're going to be we might have a little while
Speaker 3: right now where things are like I agree with David
Speaker 3: or I agree with Tony, you know, because we're not
Speaker 3: real popular when it comes to, you know, analysis, because
Speaker 3: people want to have their delusions, and it'll be even
Speaker 3: harder for us, especially if there's some sort of galvanizing
Speaker 3: thing or an attack of God forbid. I don't mean
Speaker 3: it's such an awful thing. I don't want any of this.
Speaker 3: We don't have time for it, and I'm afraid of
Speaker 3: what it'll usher in.
Speaker 2: But we've Barre's seen some of that, you know, when
Speaker 2: it comes to the border. You look at what's happening
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, and while the Trump regime was doing and
Speaker 2: I said, you know, I've seen where this is headed
Speaker 2: for the longest time. Alex did documentary after documentary about
Speaker 2: the police state, did four of them. And yet when
Speaker 2: it's being done by Trump, everybody cheers that. When it's
Speaker 2: being done to throw out these dirty foreigners that came
Speaker 2: in here, then everybody's for it. And again that's the
Speaker 2: dehumanizing of this. Well, they're not citizens, so I don't
Speaker 2: care what happens to them. It's like, well, we don't
Speaker 2: have citizens' rights as much as we've got human rights.
Speaker 2: In the decoration of independ it's because we are creating
Speaker 2: the image of God, not because somebody in Washington has
Speaker 2: said that you're a citizen or not. And if we
Speaker 2: allow them to get rid of our humanity, if we
Speaker 2: allow them to get rid of the humanity of people
Speaker 2: who have committed a crime and came into this country illegally,
Speaker 2: but they still get due process, and it still needs
Speaker 2: to be proportional, and it is not just the act
Speaker 2: of coming into the country illegally does not make them
Speaker 2: a rapist and a murderer. I mean, there are rapists
Speaker 2: and murderers who came in as well, but even they
Speaker 2: get due process to make sure we got the right people.
Speaker 2: And when you throw that stuff out the window, and
Speaker 2: you throw the humanity of people out the window, that
Speaker 2: is an incredibly dangerous thing. And I've seen that with
Speaker 2: this Trump administration, whether you're talking about ice or they're
Speaker 2: talking about Venezuela and the machine gunning of people in
Speaker 2: the water who are shipwrecked. I'm disgusted with this country
Speaker 2: and I don't want to have you're talking about. I
Speaker 2: want to stay one thousand miles away from that. I
Speaker 2: want to disassociate myself from that, and I want Americans
Speaker 2: to disassociate shape themselves from that. It bothers me when
Speaker 2: I see people cheering it and saying I voted for this.
Speaker 3: Well, I think even with a false flag, the prices
Speaker 3: of things in the economic consequences will override that. I
Speaker 3: think people will get tired on it a long enough time.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to get tired of it real soon.
Speaker 3: By the way, this is not going away, and you're
Speaker 3: about to see the mid terms of everything else. I
Speaker 3: don't think this is going to be popular. And perhaps
Speaker 3: the Trump administration knew this already and they're just doing
Speaker 3: it because they're acting on behalf of a foreign nation.
Speaker 3: There's no upside for them here in the short run
Speaker 3: or the long run. I don't know if there's any
Speaker 3: other way to explain it, but unfortunately we're tied to
Speaker 3: this and we're along for the ride. So in my estimation,
Speaker 3: you know, to look at it from what I do
Speaker 3: in the precious metals businesses, there's probably been never been
Speaker 3: a better time to get out of the system and
Speaker 3: into something that is yours without counter counterparty us.
Speaker 1: Not to do an infomercial, but that's yeah, well I
Speaker 1: agree with it. Time to do that.
Speaker 2: And you know, I look at this and the same
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that when Trump pumped and dumped crypto, right.
Speaker 2: I was saying at the time, it's on sale, get
Speaker 2: your gold and silver, right, And so I see this
Speaker 2: as another one with them manipulating the market to try
Speaker 2: to keep it from spiking really huge with both golden
Speaker 2: and oil. Now is the time to try to protect yourself,
Speaker 2: and you know, there are some measures that you can
Speaker 2: do to protect yourself and your family, and from a
Speaker 2: financial standpoint, I don't think you can do better in
Speaker 2: terms of protection than gold. Nothing is perfect and nothing's
Speaker 2: going to go straight up into the right always, but
Speaker 2: it is you know, averaging that out over a period
Speaker 2: of time and just trying to stick with what is real.
Speaker 2: I think that's the most important thing. Well, Tony, thank
Speaker 2: you so much. Is there anything else you'd like to
Speaker 2: tell us about what's going on at Wisewolf.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to be traveling next week, so I
Speaker 3: won't be able to do the show, but uh, and
Speaker 3: I always love coming on and talking to you.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it seems like every.
Speaker 3: Time there is just a new we're experiencing some new
Speaker 3: uh fresher totalitarian tiptoes of something into the dystopias.
Speaker 2: So interesting times.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I'll miss next week because I'm going to be traveling
Speaker 3: and uh, I'm gonna I'm working on a new podcast episode,
Speaker 3: so I'll be out out of my normal jurisdiction. But
Speaker 3: just uh, you know, we're we're doing everything we can.
Speaker 3: The crew is great, and uh, I'm sourcing as much
Speaker 3: product as I can. I've I put out an email
Speaker 3: about a week or so go as letting people know,
Speaker 3: like we're trying to get some of the smaller silver items.
Speaker 3: I've ordered stuff, we had some stuff lost in the mail.
Speaker 3: There's a there's always something going on with this business.
Speaker 3: But uh, we we're excited about some of the cool
Speaker 3: stuff coming out in wolf packs. Who appreciate everybody who
Speaker 3: who's stuck with us.
Speaker 2: That's great. You're talking about podcast episode? Do you have
Speaker 2: a podcast episode today? After this show?
Speaker 3: I do. I'm going to do the Arderburn radio transmission
Speaker 3: once a week on Thursday's eleven am Central Time. Go
Speaker 3: find me at Tony Ardeburn on x and America Unplugged
Speaker 3: a channel over on Bumble.
Speaker 1: We'll be live here in about forty minutes right right
Speaker 1: right after this show.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, Tony.
Speaker 1: Again.
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