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<v Speaker 1>Dirty hands means clean theology. Can you dig it? What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on on? My local guys and gas and long

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<v Speaker 1>distance pals?

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<v Speaker 2>We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We ain't gonna get it this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd tell you that that's wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just that's I don't know, thetosterone son testosterone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, just you know now that we know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this hindsight. This is after our one year

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary show and the catchphrases took on. We actually even

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<v Speaker 1>had a guy said, what's going on long distance pals?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I guess I'm Benfoot, Benfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to be it's been one year already in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, in some ways it seems like it

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<v Speaker 4>just started. In other ways, it seems like we've been

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<v Speaker 4>doing this a long time. It really does. At times

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<v Speaker 4>you feel like you're getting a routine. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been it's been a crazy year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess, looking back, what was your guys' favorite show?

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<v Speaker 1>If you had to play favorites, I really don't know

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<v Speaker 1>her favorite show, favorite guest. Now that's not not just

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<v Speaker 1>season one or season two, just as a whole.

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<v Speaker 4>For the year, we've all had people that I think

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<v Speaker 4>we connected with maybe a little bit more. But at

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<v Speaker 4>the same time, I think every guest that's ever been

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<v Speaker 4>on here has been so good, and I think I've

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<v Speaker 4>learned so much from each person. But I guess one

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<v Speaker 4>of my favorites, and no offense to anybody else out there,

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<v Speaker 4>but one of my favorites definitely is Ryan Peterson. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>love the guy, his knowledge, his his the way that

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<v Speaker 4>he uses scripture to back everything up, that he his ideas,

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<v Speaker 4>his beliefs which are different than a lot of other

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<v Speaker 4>people that we as far as the Fallen Angels and

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<v Speaker 4>some of those things, like different ideas and the final

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<v Speaker 4>Nephilim judgment of the Nephlom. Go out and read those books.

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<v Speaker 4>Just absolutely chocked full of information.

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<v Speaker 2>Just loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's real down to earth. I love just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like sitting down with an old high school friend

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<v Speaker 1>and talking with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was. He was easy to you know, communicate with.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it Almrino al Marino Alberino.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I liked him pretty good. But but I liked.

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<v Speaker 3>The ben Stein he I mean, because that we wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>expecting that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Brad, Brad Brad.

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<v Speaker 2>Steyle Buehler, Buehler you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, it wasn't expecting that at all. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>just kept with energy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you had some fire.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 4>I love and we think we saw that with so

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<v Speaker 4>many guests that we have, just the passion that they

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<v Speaker 4>have behind what they do, their research, their belief and

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<v Speaker 4>how much you can see God working through them and

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<v Speaker 4>everything that they do in the books they write and

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<v Speaker 4>the shows that they've produced, the movies they've done, the

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<v Speaker 4>force of God behind them and what they're doing and

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<v Speaker 4>not caring what other people think, but doing God's work.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just awesome to see so many strong Christian

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<v Speaker 4>people out there that are making a difference in any

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<v Speaker 4>way they can using the gifts that God gave them.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I love all of this. I love the interviews

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean I read all these guys books and

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<v Speaker 1>watch their you know, YouTube videos and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like once we started this and actually being

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the conversation and talking to these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like I'm like a little kid living their dream,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean it's like I got to step

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<v Speaker 1>on the court with Michael Jordan, that Derek Gilbert, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>me and him were you know, we're friends for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few years before I started this, so we already

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<v Speaker 1>had kind of a friendship built up, so I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed having him on the show. But I guess my

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<v Speaker 1>personal favorite was Trace Smith because I grew up believing

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<v Speaker 1>in the faith, but I never really got deep into

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<v Speaker 1>the supernatural or you know, the Hebrew, just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the I guess, quote unquote weird things until I found

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<v Speaker 1>his YouTube channel, and then that's how I actually found

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Gilbert and some of these other guys, was through

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<v Speaker 1>Trace Smith because he had interviewed him and talked to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was really cool to get to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Trace Smith and me and him actually become friends. We

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<v Speaker 1>actually text and talk on the phone and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was probably my favorite. That was my fanboy moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, oh fanboy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's cool though, when you think about the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that we've been so blessed through this that each

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<v Speaker 4>of these people like you talk about Derek Gilbert, and

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<v Speaker 4>I absolutely loved Derek, one of the nicest, most down

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<v Speaker 4>to earth people there is, and the amount of now

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<v Speaker 4>when you walk away, there's certain things that just made

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<v Speaker 4>you go, WHOA. I mean, that's unbelievable and there's other

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<v Speaker 4>things that I'm still scratching my head, like he needs

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<v Speaker 4>to say that again, Yeah, because it just it was

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<v Speaker 4>just so much all at once. But the knowledge and

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<v Speaker 4>the chance that you know, that we get to sit

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<v Speaker 4>down and talk to some of these people and be

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<v Speaker 4>able to listen to everything, that we get to ask

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<v Speaker 4>the questions we want to ask. Not everybody's that lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>We can sit down and ask these people exactly what's

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<v Speaker 4>been har well, what do you think about this boom?

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<v Speaker 4>And I just love that because there's so much knowledge

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<v Speaker 4>in each of the people that we've had on this program,

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<v Speaker 4>and in different areas and in different spectrums and different viewpoints.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I said, always backed up with scripture. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's some of that's interpretive, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>some of that ways. But the end goal is that

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<v Speaker 4>these people may have differences in opinion under certain things,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're all non salvation issues. But if it's helped

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<v Speaker 4>at all to push you to read your Bible more,

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<v Speaker 4>to dig into God's word, more to to try to

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<v Speaker 4>search out that truth you know that that God conceals

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<v Speaker 4>in his word, then man, it's it's done something that

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<v Speaker 4>we wanted to do because it's done that for all

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<v Speaker 4>of us, so I just to me, it's been just

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<v Speaker 4>truly a blessing. And on top of that, absolutely love

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<v Speaker 4>the interviews, love the guests, but the other shows that

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<v Speaker 4>we've done, the other the Bible study that I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that was one of Ben's ideas that I think has

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<v Speaker 4>been just phenomenal, not only just for you know, to

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<v Speaker 4>something we can sit down and do like we would

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<v Speaker 4>in church, like a small group or something, but we're

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<v Speaker 4>we're learning as we go, just with us here, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>being able to bounce ideas off each other, being able

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of see how we each interpret what we read.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel that God speaks to everybody a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit differently in his word, the way that he speaks

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<v Speaker 4>he wants you to understand something, maybe a little different

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<v Speaker 4>than he wants me to. That's the Bible's the most

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<v Speaker 4>amazing living book there is on this planet that continually

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<v Speaker 4>God will speak to you through it, even if you're

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<v Speaker 4>reading the same couple passages.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to say, it's funny because you can say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, oh, I've read I've read Matthew one hundred times,

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<v Speaker 3>read it again and something else will pop out at you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's like it's like watching a movie and you're like.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that happening, you know the first two

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<v Speaker 3>times you watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's just it's it's been an awesome journey,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Truth is in the journey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And what what I think is great about, like, say,

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<v Speaker 3>the interviews is I know we've said it before. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if we've said it on air or not,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's it's wild to watch them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're I wouldn't say all of them, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure some of them's like, okay, I'll well i'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys I don't know who they are, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and that they they come in with low expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they see our studio.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well then that's even lower, lowers a little more.

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<v Speaker 3>But but ten minutes into the conversation, you can you

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<v Speaker 3>can see that their attitude slash ideas that they first

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<v Speaker 3>got of us change their eyes light up. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, it's not, well, these are you know

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<v Speaker 3>listening to me anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, that's a dumb hillbilly.

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<v Speaker 4>But you think about it though, in the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's just like was it? Peterson said, know your Bible?

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<v Speaker 2>And then he the one you said that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was talking about the you know, Peterson said about having

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation when he came back on with us, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I just done an interview with another podcast. I was

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<v Speaker 1>their first interview, so they were nervous as could be,

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<v Speaker 1>and they asked me, you know what makes a good interview,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. I automatically thought of you, brothers, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him he said, just know you Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. Then guys know their Bible, he said. We

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<v Speaker 1>just feed off each other.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, because it's the it's the main topic you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, you know, Jesus, Bible to God, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>God and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just think that, you know, it's just been awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm gonna make you a sticker that says

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<v Speaker 4>that Jesus the Bible of God and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all right. It's a T shirt, which I like.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of these guys are so humble. Yeah, like Derek,

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody had the excuse to high hat somebody and

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<v Speaker 1>ignore them, not reply to emails, no I'm too good

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm too busy. It's Dear Gilbert. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>writes all the time, he's studying all the time. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got several podcasts he runs, He's got the Derek Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>app and YouTube channel. You know, he works for SkyWatch TV.

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<v Speaker 1>That man always responds to emails, That man always says

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<v Speaker 1>yes to coming on shows, and that you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of these guys are that we've dealt with.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just very humble, and I love that about them

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<v Speaker 1>because there's been several you know, podcasters and other authors

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<v Speaker 1>that I've reached out to and tried to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just either not respond at all, or oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too busy, my schedule's too busy. But then you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see him on other podcasts and stuff. You know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>hi hat you, and it's like, man, if you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got time, you know whatever, just but don't just ignore

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<v Speaker 1>people and act like you're just too good, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because if anybody had that luxury, it'd be like Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert and Peterson some of these guys that are just

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<v Speaker 1>so humble, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Alberreno La Marzouli. You go down the list, all

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<v Speaker 4>these guys that we've that uh and girls. Vicky Joy

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't have to get to be with us that time,

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<v Speaker 4>and we had the craziest computer issues and everything happened

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<v Speaker 4>get out, and I tell you that was her information. Her.

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<v Speaker 4>Now all those things, everybody has been so gracious, like

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<v Speaker 4>you said, so humble and yet just so knowledgeable, and

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<v Speaker 4>to to dive in better. But all these people have

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<v Speaker 4>having them as part of that. Jud Burton, who can

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<v Speaker 4>you can never leave jud Burton not. The knowledge that

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<v Speaker 4>there's just so many great resources and great down to

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<v Speaker 4>earth people that you know, if you reach out, they'll

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the whole point is that. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>that that the majority of people in this space, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>further you know, the Great Commission in the long run,

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<v Speaker 4>and they need to be spoon fed a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the whole goal that we set out

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<v Speaker 4>them a taste, remember, get into the meat and potatoes.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we talked about that way back in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>We're past the milk, We're going in the meat and potatoes.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that it's just such a cool thing

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<v Speaker 4>some of these people that I just I never in

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<v Speaker 1>I like how Vika Joey Anderson said in our anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>show that we've done. She said, the great commission wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and make subscribers. It was to make disciples,

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<v Speaker 1>she said. And I pray that the listeners of today

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<v Speaker 1>are the disciples of tomorrow, because you do. You got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, you know, even in this sir

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, back at up, let's open up prayer and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this will be part two. Who prayed last time?

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<v Speaker 1>I did? Didn't I? Yeah, it's one of you two's turn.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Dear Lord, thank you for everything you've given us. Thank

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<v Speaker 4>you for letting us have this opportunity and the gifts

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<v Speaker 4>and the blessings that you have, that that we get

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<v Speaker 4>to do something like this to help spread your word,

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<v Speaker 4>to try to reach just that one more person, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>empty empty out hell and populate heaven. If you can continue, please,

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<v Speaker 4>if it's your will, keep continuing to bless this and

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<v Speaker 4>reach the people that you needed to reach. Lord, and

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<v Speaker 4>then your name, we pray Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen. So astrology and astronomy in the Bible. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how the story of salvation was written in the

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<v Speaker 1>stars last time, So this time we're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into instances where we see that in our cannon

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bible, and you don't have to go very far.

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<v Speaker 1>You get into Genesis, chapter one and verse fourteen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>God said, let there be lights in the expanse of

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<v Speaker 1>the heavens, to separate the day from the night, and

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<v Speaker 1>let them be for signs and for seasons and for

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<v Speaker 1>days and for years. You know. Scripture tells us that

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<v Speaker 1>the stars were created as signs and seasons, days and years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a perfect clock or calendar. The sun's the hour hand,

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<v Speaker 1>the moon is the day of the month, and the

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<v Speaker 1>constellations for the seasons. So even in the beginning we're

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<v Speaker 1>told that the stars and the moon. All those were

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter two nineteen says, I will show wonders in heaven

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<v Speaker 1>above talking about the signs. Psalms nineteen two through one.

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<v Speaker 1>The heavens declare the glory of God. Day today it

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<v Speaker 1>pours out speech and night tonight reveals knowledge. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ancients have been mapping and looking to the heavens

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<v Speaker 1>since the beginning of time. They're finding ancient architecture aligning

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<v Speaker 1>with the stars as far back as go Beckley Tepe

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about that with the Aaron Judkins, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with these were supposed to be the stupid cave men

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<v Speaker 1>hunter gatherers, but history tells quite a different, you know story.

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah forty seven thirteen says, those who divide the heavens

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<v Speaker 1>who gaze at the stars, you know, somewhere along the line,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've hinted around this on other episodes, but somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>along the line, this intent knowledge was perverted, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Romans one twenty five. They traded the truth for a

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<v Speaker 1>lie and worship the created things instead of the Creator.

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<v Speaker 1>But it says in Acts seven four to two, but

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<v Speaker 1>God turned away and gave them over to the worship

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<v Speaker 1>of the host of heaven. You know, here we got

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<v Speaker 1>the Tower of Bible. You know, they were chasing after

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<v Speaker 1>these other gods and stuff, so God just turned them

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<v Speaker 1>over to the will of their hearts and they worshiped

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<v Speaker 1>the stars of heaven. But you know we have before that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, its Genesis six, and that's where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that the knowledge was perverted. It was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was talked about in creation. But then these fallen

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<v Speaker 1>angels came down and it says in the Book of

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<v Speaker 1>Enoch that they trained them in the art of astrology,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, mathematics, war, you know, even beautification of the eyelids,

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<v Speaker 1>and even abortion. So they ended up twisted a created

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<v Speaker 1>thing and told them that they were to be worshiped

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<v Speaker 1>and they were gods. You guys, think of anything that

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<v Speaker 1>stands up the top of your head as far as astrology,

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<v Speaker 1>astronomy in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>Is exactly what you just said. Is The part that

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<v Speaker 4>that always blows me away is that you can walk

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<v Speaker 4>into a you know, a grocery store and get your

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<v Speaker 4>zodiac and and it'll tell you, you know, all the different

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<v Speaker 4>things that the stars tell you based on hercules, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and and and things like this, and the

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<v Speaker 4>stars that that are perversions of God's creation. And and

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<v Speaker 4>to think that, you know, if you truly think about this,

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<v Speaker 4>God created those things. He didn't create those things so

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<v Speaker 4>you could turn them into a novelty. You know, a

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<v Speaker 4>fortune cookie, you know, a little little message it says, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll have plenty of money because you're in aries, or

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<v Speaker 4>all these kind of things.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a question, does do they always say Do

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<v Speaker 3>they ever say you're gonna have a horrible day today,

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<v Speaker 3>you better watch out, don't spend no money? Or is

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<v Speaker 3>it always good stuff? I don't because I don't ever

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<v Speaker 3>look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember look, you know, when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>in my heathen years, I look just kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>at that stuff. But it said, I remember seeing stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like like it'll have vague stuff like you'll say, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the such and such star is in this constellation at

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<v Speaker 1>this time. This is not a good omen for you,

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<v Speaker 1>So at this time, don't make any major investments, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not your time, you know, And little stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all the witches and stuff. Do they get really

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<v Speaker 3>That just made me think about I was listening to

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it was Skip Isaac the other day and

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<v Speaker 3>but it's like Daniel, I guess probably where Daniel. They

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<v Speaker 3>the king has his little dream and you can't remember

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<v Speaker 3>these people. Yeah, tell me what my dream is and

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<v Speaker 3>what does it mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel out of prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're like, well, well, you have to tell us

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<v Speaker 3>your dream so we can interpret it. He says, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember my dream.

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<v Speaker 1>He just told them, if you're truly a seer, then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well either way, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, tell me, tell me what I dreamed and

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<v Speaker 3>what does it mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And they couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>They said, well, no person on earth can do, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>tell the future. And it's the same, the same thing, like,

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<v Speaker 3>look you're looking at them stars. Is it going to

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think that that's the point though, as you

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<v Speaker 4>just said it, I think you hit that nail and

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<v Speaker 4>the head. No person on earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah do that.

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<v Speaker 4>However, go to acts and we talk about Paul and

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<v Speaker 4>that that slave, but just talked about that. We just

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<v Speaker 4>talked about that that girl could tell the future. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's not. It's not her that's telling the future. It

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<v Speaker 4>was the demon inside her. So no one of this earth.

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<v Speaker 4>But you still see that that that these these some

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<v Speaker 4>of these at least some of these demonic entities, fallen angels,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever is possessing her, has ability for some limited foresight

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<v Speaker 4>to some degree, because it was they were making him

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<v Speaker 4>tons of money. She was making the owner's tons of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, Also it can also be foresight of the of

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<v Speaker 3>the fact of the demons in that region and and

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<v Speaker 3>say say say, you know, hey, tomorrow, if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>king twenty thousand dollars tomorrow, your dad's gonna die. They

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<v Speaker 1>You know, with the real superstitious people back then, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they were breading the blood, how it flowed, and

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm glad you don't believe in that though, No,

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<v Speaker 3>that's stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I guess one I want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>and we we've touched on it with Derreck Gilbert was

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah fourteen and then Ezekiel twenty eight. You know, so

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<v Speaker 1>of a groundwork laid, but said that Satan himself was

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<v Speaker 1>said to have walked amongst the stones of fire in

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<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel twenty eight. You know, to me, that stands out

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<v Speaker 1>as the stars and the planets because they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're associated with celestial beings anyway, you know, Mercury, Jupiter,

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<v Speaker 1>Zoo's areas for you know, Mars, just all these different

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<v Speaker 1>gods were associated with these planets anyway, and it talked

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<v Speaker 1>about where Satan walked amongst the stones of fire. But

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<v Speaker 1>the planet Venus. You know, it's not Satan, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>proper name. We recently released that Derek Gilbert show. If

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<v Speaker 1>you saint checked that out, check that out. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>really good. But it's a mistranslation from the Latin Vulgate

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<v Speaker 1>where the original Greek word was here for us, which

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<v Speaker 1>means light bringer. You know, it was the brightest star

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky just before the sun rise. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know this entity, whether it was Satan himself or Shimjasa,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as Derek talked about, this planet was aligned

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<v Speaker 1>with the entity that rebelled against God. And Isaiah fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three. You know you said in your heart, I

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<v Speaker 1>will ascend to heaven above the stars of God, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>aka the Divine Assembly, the Divine Council. You know Psalms

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<v Speaker 1>one eight one through four. Praise Him from the heavens,

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<v Speaker 1>Praise him Sun and the moon, Praise him. All you

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<v Speaker 1>shining stars, you know, the ones in the Divine Council

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<v Speaker 1>who rebeled that will be judged. You know that we

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<v Speaker 1>see many times that stars language is equated to heavenly

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<v Speaker 1>beings in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>Like in job Man the Morning Stars saying for joy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know at creation when you know God laid the

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<v Speaker 4>foundations of the earth. So yeah, I mean it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty rife through there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you even have judgment of these celestial beings

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<v Speaker 1>in your scripture. Matthew twenty four twenty nine, Sun, moon

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<v Speaker 1>and stars will fall from heaven and the powers of

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<v Speaker 1>heaven will be shaken. You know, we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>in the last episode where you're talking about Written in

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars, Job thirty eight, thirty one through thirty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you bind the chains of ple eighties or loose

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<v Speaker 1>in the court of Orion? Can you lead forth the

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<v Speaker 1>Mazarath in their season? Can you guide the Bear with

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<v Speaker 1>its children? Do you know the ordinances of Heaven? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you establish their rule on earth? You know this is

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<v Speaker 1>Joe those book in the Bible, But the last line

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<v Speaker 1>tells me that the Tower of Babel had already happened.

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<v Speaker 1>That whole passage was mentioning heavenly bodies in their constellations.

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<v Speaker 1>I never noticed that till I was doing this stab.

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<v Speaker 5>If the fallen angels gave us the knowledge of the

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<v Speaker 5>stars and whatnot, then I guess that would make sense

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<v Speaker 5>Joe would be after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's already naming them by name.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't know that's God talking to Job.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but I'm just saying. I mean, if he's telling

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<v Speaker 1>him that, then he already was about it. He's talking

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<v Speaker 1>to him like, you know, where were you when I'd

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<v Speaker 1>done this and done that? So like the way I

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<v Speaker 1>understood it anyway. It was like Joe was already well

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<v Speaker 1>aware of it because God was talking to him about it,

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<v Speaker 1>like he already knew.

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<v Speaker 4>That makes me wonder, though, it does would they you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if we go back to Genesis and we look at

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<v Speaker 4>God talks about you know, you know that Adam named

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<v Speaker 4>the animals and name these things and and had you know,

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<v Speaker 4>dominion on earth. I guess you know, we said that

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<v Speaker 4>until later on when that's given to Satan through sin.

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<v Speaker 1>We traded, we traded.

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<v Speaker 4>But that makes me wonder if that's something that God

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<v Speaker 4>imparted the knowledge of the And it's not in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's just me conjecture. But did everybody did they

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<v Speaker 4>know that from day one? Did God tell Adam?

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<v Speaker 2>And not day one?

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what I mean, did God sit down

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<v Speaker 4>when they were walking through the garden they go out

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<v Speaker 4>at night and they're starting to say, say, look at

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<v Speaker 4>this is my promise, you know, or maybe after the

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<v Speaker 4>fall because that's when the the prophecy of the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Genesis three fifteen, which is written in the stars all

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<v Speaker 4>over the place. Did he let him know that, look

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<v Speaker 4>at this is a sign of my covenant with you.

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<v Speaker 4>We said this but look, I haven't written here because

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<v Speaker 4>I knew this was gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just an idea.

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<v Speaker 3>And that possibly could be because it says they were

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<v Speaker 3>they taught us the workings of the stars or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, so so their courses.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, well we might not have known the courses.

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<v Speaker 3>We just you know, God might just said, hey, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what this is and and kind of let it be.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the angels that that you know, come down,

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<v Speaker 3>the fallen angels kind of went into more detail, told

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<v Speaker 3>us stuff that God didn't want us to know at

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<v Speaker 3>the time I lost the bill. I mean, no, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know, but I could see it that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, I think that'd be a good question for Derek

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<v Speaker 4>right there.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be write that down.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, if you're listening, Derek, let us know.

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<v Speaker 3>Email us just called justin just make it easy, which

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<v Speaker 3>have pin pals.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I shared this on the Facebook community, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we've actually went in depth and talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But so, if you're not a member of the Facebook community,

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<v Speaker 1>just got fau mode?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Fear of missing out? Fair enough? I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>it must be there was a schism in that that

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<v Speaker 1>joke there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm older than both you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's got kids that are ye see, my kids

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<v Speaker 3>are too young to be bringing out home. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that's like a new lingo, like how we had fat

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<v Speaker 3>back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll make it still, I'll make it more palatable

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Wrong, fat, I'll make it more palable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Israelite camp in Genesis forty nine, we all

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<v Speaker 1>know about the when they he called him out and

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<v Speaker 1>he told him, you know, give them specific instructions on

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<v Speaker 1>how to lay their camp out and all that stuff. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there was astronomical things tied into that as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they were willed, when they were in the wilderness

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<v Speaker 1>for forty years, you know, this was on earth as

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<v Speaker 1>it is in heaven mirrored image. And we talked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about that, I think on that episode me

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<v Speaker 1>and you was talking about and how that it was

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<v Speaker 1>laid out as a big cross. It was a moving

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<v Speaker 1>cross on the floor of the desert, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the holiest of holies in the center.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's crazy is that that's kind of how the

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<v Speaker 3>new the gates of Heaven or something's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>laid out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so we get to something something revelations.

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<v Speaker 1>That, oh, the twelve twelve Gates. Yeah, but see, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see we if we back up from there to Genesis

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine, that's the blessings of Jacob to his children.

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<v Speaker 1>But it says out there there was twelve tribes, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're talking about, the twelve tribes and twelve

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<v Speaker 1>Gates of Israel. But if you read the blessings in

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<v Speaker 1>that chapter, Judah was referred to as a lion, and

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<v Speaker 1>Reuben was referred to as a man with water. Ephraim,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Joseph in the Jewish targums, was referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as a bull or an ox, and Dan was associated

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<v Speaker 1>with the serpent. Well, these are all astrological constellations. So

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<v Speaker 1>these are the constellations in the heavens lee the lion,

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<v Speaker 1>the man with water, Aquarius, the bull, the oxes Taurus,

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<v Speaker 1>and the serpent eagle is Scorpio. You know, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the four cardinal points of the Babylonian zodiac, or the

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<v Speaker 1>Mazarath as they referred to in the Book of Job.

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<v Speaker 1>But we just talked about. But keep those in mind

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<v Speaker 1>as we read God's instruction to the Israelite camp in

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<v Speaker 1>numbers chapter two, verse three, Judah was to the east,

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<v Speaker 1>Verse ten, Reuben was to the south, Verse eighteen Ephrium

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<v Speaker 1>was to the west, and then verse twenty five Dan

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<v Speaker 1>was to the north. You know, I'd already knew that

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<v Speaker 1>this was a giant moving cross, you know, back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve with one of Trey Smith's videos, but with

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<v Speaker 1>the Levites in the center at the holiest of holies

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<v Speaker 1>where the presence of God rested were on the day

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<v Speaker 1>of Atonement, they would sprinkle the blood the sacrifice on

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<v Speaker 1>the arc at the center. So this was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>cross with them sprinkling blood in the center of the

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<v Speaker 1>cross on the day of Atonement, saying the hidden name

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<v Speaker 1>of God, which was Jodhvovy, which means behold the hand,

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<v Speaker 1>behold the nail. I mean, that's already just mind blowsing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I never realized the astronomical stuff until Doug van

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<v Speaker 1>Dorn pointed it out. You know, these are the four

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<v Speaker 1>tribes listed that were on the outside of the four

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<v Speaker 1>points of the camp that their father aligned them with

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<v Speaker 1>animals that were constellations that align perfectly like a mirrored

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<v Speaker 1>image of the heavens of the four cardinal points of

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<v Speaker 1>the zodiac. So it was this huge moving cross with

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<v Speaker 1>those four tribes at the four corners of that mirroring heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's those same things. And who was it, Who

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<v Speaker 4>was it that said that that? I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>when it was Doctor Heizer always said that there's always

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<v Speaker 4>at least two meanings right when you see something when

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<v Speaker 4>you're reading through, like, there's usually something else. There's always

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<v Speaker 4>the superficial, and then there's at least some at least

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<v Speaker 4>one other layer that and usually more when you go

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<v Speaker 4>through and you look and you can see all those

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<v Speaker 4>different things, and a lot of them were meant for

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<v Speaker 4>us to see retrospectively, like we're not. You know a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of those things that you can even look it through.

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<v Speaker 4>And we were talking, we're talking about it in church today,

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<v Speaker 4>but looking through Jesus, how many times did he tell

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<v Speaker 4>them that he was going to die and resurrect? He

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<v Speaker 4>told him over and over and over again, yet they

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't see it. So it's the same thing. These things

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<v Speaker 4>are some of these things God did. Not only was

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<v Speaker 4>he telling them, but the whole point is that we

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<v Speaker 4>see these things later on that helps us.

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<v Speaker 1>See the truth strengthen our faith.

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<v Speaker 4>It strengthen our faith. It shows us as scriptures and

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<v Speaker 4>you can see physical things around you, parts of creation

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<v Speaker 4>that prove what the Bible's telling you. And it just

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<v Speaker 4>is exactly you said. Just continues to strengthen my faith

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<v Speaker 4>and hopefully everybody else out there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Can you guys think of any other mirrored images

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth as it is in Heaven like Temple Complex?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that goes there's rabbit holes for days?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Well I'm just saying just off top of

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<v Speaker 1>you he can you think of any discussion there? There's

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<v Speaker 1>a big three, it's pretty pretty obvious.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, go ahead and start us off.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pyramids of Egypt lines with the belt of O'Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>and then also the Nile that flows beside of it

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<v Speaker 1>mirrors the milky white galaxy. It's tell me how these

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<v Speaker 1>stupid ancient people knew this stuff, not only.

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<v Speaker 4>That it actually you know, was considered the life blood. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just there's you can go down and look

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<v Speaker 4>through this. I think we went through a few other

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<v Speaker 4>ones last time, and them like Manchu Piachu and the

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<v Speaker 4>top of so we're talking about ancient cultures that are

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be, you know, fairly primitive. That obviously we're

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<v Speaker 4>not as primitive, you know when we look at like

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<v Speaker 4>Go Beckley, like with the Aaron Judkins. But when you

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<v Speaker 4>look at Manchu Peachu, there's a stone at the very

634
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 4>top that's perfectly aligned north, south, east and west, and

635
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 4>that on the summer and the winter or yeah, the

636
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 4>spring and the fall solstice I think it is, or

637
00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 4>summer and winter solstice, I can't remember, but they just

638
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 4>those two days at a certain time. There's absolutely no

639
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 4>shadow of this stone cast but this only on those

640
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 4>two days. Like it's just on the that they were

641
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 4>able to set these things up based on the the

642
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.920
<v Speaker 4>stars and the alignment that the knowledge that they had

643
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.800
<v Speaker 4>to possess and and and.

644
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>The ability to see something.

645
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Speaker 4>It is the that's on the I think that's the

646
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 4>summer solstice where it rises over the like the headstone pillar.

647
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 4>I think on the one end.

648
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:30.039
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember, but I know they said that for someone.

649
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 4>But so many things were set up with the with

650
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 4>the summer solstice, was it gil gilgal Rafaen there's the

651
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.159
<v Speaker 4>very center of that on that on that solstice the

652
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 4>sun shines in just at that that one part right

653
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.000
<v Speaker 4>in the middle, like just at that one day year.

654
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's so many places pretty much all ancient architecture.

655
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.159
<v Speaker 4>When you talk about the stuff that's still standing, that

656
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 4>the stuff that we can see has some kind of astrological,

657
00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:01.840
<v Speaker 4>astronomical significance to whatever their religion would have been at

658
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 4>that time, whatever they believe. But everybody always looking to

659
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 4>the sky, the stars and things above us, even if

660
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't necessarily from a Christian point of view, and

661
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.280
<v Speaker 4>not say Christian, but from a you know, at that point,

662
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:19.360
<v Speaker 4>a Hebrew Israelite, you know, from a godly point of view.

663
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.320
<v Speaker 4>A lot of times it was from those I believe,

664
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 4>like you said, those fallen angels had distributed that knowledge

665
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 4>and perverted it but their way of worship, but they

666
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:32.320
<v Speaker 4>still used it. Yeah, it's like the Serpent Mount in Ohio. Yeah,

667
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's built perfectly to eat the egg, which

668
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 4>is the sun during the summer solstice on sunsetm You know,

669
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:42.360
<v Speaker 4>they got plenty of videos and pictures and stuff of

670
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 4>that online you can go see.

671
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just look at Indiana Jone movies.

672
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 4>If you have the stamp and put it in the

673
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 4>ground on the right day, at the right time, it'll

674
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:58.840
<v Speaker 4>show you. Yeah, whatever to the Ark of the Covenant.

675
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>But the cambodia of the Temple in Carl Watt was

676
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>laid out to the constellation Draco, which is the dragon

677
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that sweeps away one third of the stars of Heaven incidentally,

678
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:18.199
<v Speaker 1>which we'll get to that later. But yeah, this uh,

679
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Trey Smith said in our episode this uh, this dragon

680
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.679
<v Speaker 1>seems to be branding hisself throughout the world. Keeps popping

681
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 1>up everywhere. But we talked about with Dodtor Aaron Jenkins

682
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>how they're even dating these complexes because how the tilt

683
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of the earth is changing and the northern point is,

684
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, the poles are slightly shifting and stuff like that,

685
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:44.199
<v Speaker 1>and that's how they're dating these places. And uh, we

686
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 1>even talked about with Stephen on the last episode, how

687
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.559
<v Speaker 1>uh was it you said to Draco or Hydra that

688
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 1>was the polite was the north point at one point

689
00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Draco and everything everything revolved around it.

690
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 4>That's the same thing and that stuff that we talked

691
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:05.559
<v Speaker 4>about before Chichnitza with the Mayans in Mexico Spring Equinox,

692
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 4>it shows on the side of the pyramid, the way

693
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 4>they the way they made it, just on the spring equinox,

694
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 4>it made a serpent that was crawling up the stairs.

695
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 1>To eat the sacrificed heart.

696
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 2>It was the return of the sun serpent.

697
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 4>And then you got the Chocoal Canyon in New Mexico,

698
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 4>which there's a lot of unique history and kind of

699
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 4>dark history that goes along with that area. But the

700
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Pueblo people, they had all these carved images in the

701
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 4>rocks that showed how they were tracking the seasons and

702
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 4>the passage of time based on the stars. I mean,

703
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 4>you see this throughout that everybody. I mean, it's just

704
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 4>it's part of ancient culture. The stars were such a

705
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.920
<v Speaker 4>big point to the point where i mean.

706
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Use it to navigate shifts at night.

707
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, but it's just well, i mean they

708
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:58.119
<v Speaker 4>still do. Yeah, I mean, well there is there is

709
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, GPS whatnot. But you see, you can look

710
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 4>even you know.

711
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 2>The sex Stent stars, I guess.

712
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 4>The sex Stent and the different things that they used

713
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:08.960
<v Speaker 4>to navigate by the stars. And actually, you know there

714
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 4>was even there's myths of the the Vikings being able

715
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 4>to use the stars in the sky even I'm sorry

716
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 4>that during the day with the sunstone. Yeah, where they

717
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:22.639
<v Speaker 4>could in a cloudy day, they could still use it

718
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 4>and it would still be able to use this sunstone

719
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.400
<v Speaker 4>in a particular way to help them navigate even on

720
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.119
<v Speaker 4>a cloudy day, which is pretty crazy.

721
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>But even in Canada, there was a kid recently that

722
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 1>found lost Mayan cities that was buried in the jungles

723
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:42.079
<v Speaker 1>of South America by overlaying the constellations over a Google

724
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Earth map. Lots of the cities lined up perfectly astronomically,

725
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and he found other lost cities by feeling in the gaps.

726
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, how did ancient peoples, like we talked about,

727
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:54.119
<v Speaker 1>how did they know this? You know, they did't have

728
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 1>telescopes and all the satellites and modern advances that we

729
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.800
<v Speaker 1>have today. You know, ancient aliens show says that they

730
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:05.280
<v Speaker 1>had help, you know, by an extra terrestrial. You know,

731
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 1>all the ancient people say that they were from the stars,

732
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that these gods from the stars visited

733
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>them and gave them this knowledge. You know. The Bible

734
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>says that it's fallen Angels, same story, just different title.

735
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 1>We talked about that with Timothy Alvrina. Yeah, but I

736
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 1>love how Timothy Alvarino explained it. You know, he said,

737
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:31.639
<v Speaker 1>you know what is an extra terrestrial. It's something advanced

738
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and not of this world. You know, God's angels, Demon

739
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Satan are not of this world. So by textbook definition,

740
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.599
<v Speaker 1>they are extraterrestrial. You know, when the sons of God,

741
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you know how they correspond with the stars and the planets.

742
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>It makes a lot more sense in light of Deuteronomy

743
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.599
<v Speaker 1>thirty two worldview where the peoples were divided amongst the

744
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:56.280
<v Speaker 1>sons of God, and that Paul was talking about in

745
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Romans when we traded the truth for alyon worship the

746
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>created things, the Creator, and if you go back to

747
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>these horoscopes, you're going back under the the law or

748
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 1>the chains of these other lower case g gods and

749
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>given them influence over you.

750
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's just it's it's always been. We always said

751
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.199
<v Speaker 4>that from day one, nothing news under the sun, right,

752
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 4>these things that have always been there, that if people

753
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:28.679
<v Speaker 4>have worshiped that they've gone to, it's just been repackaged.

754
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 4>It's being sold to us a different way. Yeah, I

755
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 4>mean that's that's unfortunately, it's the truth, and you can

756
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:34.760
<v Speaker 4>see that in so many different parts of our culture,

757
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.960
<v Speaker 4>in our society and societies around the world.

758
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>But one thing I've wanted to talk about I just

759
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 1>didn't really know when we could actually bring it up,

760
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:51.559
<v Speaker 1>and this is a perfect time. Was Ezekiel's vision wheels

761
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:56.199
<v Speaker 1>within wheels, The wheels within wheels. You know what exactly

762
00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>is that? That's Ezekiel thirty two. I think for Ezekiel.

763
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 4>One or two?

764
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of Deuteronomy? Which surprisingly I don't

765
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 1>have that written down. I figured, I guess I just

766
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>thought I should remembered. I think it's Ezekiel one. Ezekiel too.

767
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, it is Ezekiel one. You're right. I

768
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Speaker 4>don't know what else.

769
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, when you hear about that story,

770
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 1>you know what does it say? It says that you

771
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>literally opened that right to it read it to Steve,

772
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 1>which you're there just about the wheels within wheels part

773
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:34.119
<v Speaker 1>of the description of it.

774
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean he literally opened it right to the page.

775
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, some people, some people are good at sports, you know,

776
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:41.719
<v Speaker 4>some people.

777
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 2>That's like, hey, we need to read that.

778
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:53.599
<v Speaker 4>So hold on, I'm didn't you No, Actually, the Holy

779
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:54.360
<v Speaker 4>Spirit did.

780
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 1>So.

781
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 4>As I looked, I saw a great storm coming from

782
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 4>the north, driving before it a huge cloud that flashed

783
00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:02.159
<v Speaker 4>like lightning, shone with a brilliant light. There was a

784
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:04.639
<v Speaker 4>fire inside the cloud, and in the middle of the

785
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.599
<v Speaker 4>fire glowed something gleaming like amber. From the center of

786
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 4>the cloud came four living beings that looked like human

787
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.159
<v Speaker 4>except each had four faces and four wings. Their legs

788
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 4>were straight, and their feet had hooves like those of

789
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 4>a calf, and shone like burnished bronze. Under each of

790
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.559
<v Speaker 4>their four wings, I could see human hands. So each

791
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 4>of the four beings had four faces and four wings.

792
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 4>The wings of each living being touched the wings of

793
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 4>the beings beside it. Each one moved straight forward in

794
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:33.320
<v Speaker 4>any direction without turning around. Each had a human face

795
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 4>in the front, the face of a line on the right. Sorry,

796
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 4>we're getting close to that. Sorry, face of line on

797
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 4>the right, face of an ox, and the left the

798
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.519
<v Speaker 4>face of an eagle in the back. Each had two pairs

799
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 4>of outstretched wings. One pair touched the wings the living

800
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 4>being on either side. I'm gonna jump down a little further. Sorry.

801
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 4>The living beings looked like bright coals of fire or

802
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 4>brilliant torches. The lightning seemed to flash back and forth.

803
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:02.360
<v Speaker 4>Theung them and the living beings darted to and fro

804
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 4>like flashes of lightning. As I looked these beings. At

805
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.119
<v Speaker 4>these beings, I saw four wheels touching the ground beside them,

806
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 4>one wheel belonging to each. The wheels sparkled as if

807
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 4>made of barrel. All four wheels looked alike, and they

808
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 4>were made the same. Each wheel had a second wheel

809
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:25.079
<v Speaker 4>turning crosswise within it. The beings could move in any

810
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:28.400
<v Speaker 4>of the four directions they faced without turning. As they moved.

811
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.320
<v Speaker 4>The rims of the four wheels were tall and frightening,

812
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 4>and they were covered with eyes all around. When the

813
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.079
<v Speaker 4>living beings moved, the wheels moved with them. When they

814
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.440
<v Speaker 4>flew upward, the wheels went up too. The spirit of

815
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 4>the living beings was in the wheels. So wherever the

816
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 4>spirit went, the wheels and the living beings went also.

817
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.280
<v Speaker 4>When the beings moved, the wheels moved. When the beings stopped,

818
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 4>the wheels stopped. When the beings flew upward, the wheels

819
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.079
<v Speaker 4>rose up. For the spirit of the living beings was

820
00:44:59.119 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 4>in the wheels.

821
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And like you talked about, you know earlier with Mike Kaiser,

822
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:11.840
<v Speaker 1>something always has at least two meanings. So if you

823
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 1>look back at. I don't know what you would the

824
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>professional word for it is, but basically a pedestal that

825
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.519
<v Speaker 1>a throne set on back in the ancient times. That's

826
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 1>what he's describing there. And when you look at a

827
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 1>picture of it, you can look them up. It's just

828
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 1>like a small table top and it's got wheels at

829
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of it to roll the throne around or whatever.

830
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.199
<v Speaker 1>But it's got those four living creatures faces on each

831
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:47.039
<v Speaker 1>leg of the stool, and it talks about, you know,

832
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>not turning their faces as they went because it's rolling

833
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in the rough facing out to the four corners. So

834
00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>they're talking realistically about a throne. And he talked about

835
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>how in that event there he's describing that the throne

836
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:12.039
<v Speaker 1>of God or the presence of God was leaving the temple,

837
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>that it was showing the people that you know, they

838
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>defiled the name of God and rebelled, and that his

839
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>presence was now leaving them. But there's always a deeper meaning,

840
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:28.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, or esoteric meaning, and when you go with

841
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:33.599
<v Speaker 1>the the other side of that, I think it's you know, astronomical.

842
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>On talking about the constellations, and Mike Kyser also talked

843
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 1>about that, but just a little background of all that

844
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>before we get in. I also have to read this,

845
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and this kind of lengthy, and I apologize, but you know,

846
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>all the stars are fixed. They take the same course

847
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 1>across the heavens night after night. They don't deviate out

848
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:56.119
<v Speaker 1>of God's will slash plan for them. But there are

849
00:46:56.199 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>seven planets that do as thou wilt, and quote unquote wander.

850
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 1>As Jude puts it, Jude one thirteen says, wild waves

851
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of the sea, casting up the foam with their own shame,

852
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 1>wandering stars for whom the gloom of utter darkness has

853
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>been reserved. You know, this passage is clearly talking about

854
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 1>the genesis six fallen Angels, where the Book of Enoch,

855
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>which Jude directly quotes several times, specifically says that they

856
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.920
<v Speaker 1>were put in chains of gloomy darkness. The context of

857
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:31.639
<v Speaker 1>the passage is about the false teachers that led the

858
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>people astray, much like the fallen angels did. But these

859
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 1>planets slash wandering stars are all named after pagan deities Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn,

860
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.199
<v Speaker 1>and Sun and the moon. You know, seven is a

861
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:50.360
<v Speaker 1>divine number symbolizing completeness. You know, we have seven spirits

862
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of God, seven days of creation, seven planets, Enoch who

863
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>was the seventh from Adam, seven archangels. You know, even

864
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:03.960
<v Speaker 1>in Mesopotamia they had the seven Obclu sages. You know,

865
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:08.119
<v Speaker 1>these quote unquote set courses is what Ezekiel is referring

866
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>to in Ezekiel one in verse sixteen with his vision

867
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of the wheels within wheels. You know, it is the

868
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 1>stars and their set paths. You know, this entire vision

869
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.679
<v Speaker 1>is celestial. You know, even the four living creatures we

870
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:27.679
<v Speaker 1>discussed earlier with the Israelite camp, we know that those

871
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:31.840
<v Speaker 1>four faces are the four cardinal points of the Babylonian zodiac.

872
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, this vision is similar to the vision John

873
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 1>gets in Revelation. You know, it shows God sitting on

874
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 1>his throne at the center of our universe, surrounded by

875
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:48.039
<v Speaker 1>the four cardinal points, the zodiacs of the heavens. Inside

876
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 1>of these are wheels within wheels, the stars and their

877
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 1>predetermined paths or highways in heaven. You know, God is

878
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 1>showing that he is in control and at the center

879
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 1>of all time, space and matter, surrounded by his divine council,

880
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 1>who are compared to as stars. Even the word eyes

881
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 1>used in this context says these wheels were full of eyes.

882
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>In verse eighteen, that Hebrew word is iyon. Here's an

883
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.239
<v Speaker 1>exerpt from the article from the late great doctor Michael

884
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Heiser off of his blog. The one thing I think

885
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:33.079
<v Speaker 1>most noteworthy about all this is the eyes. And Ezekiel one,

886
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>we read that the wheels were full of eyes. What

887
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:41.320
<v Speaker 1>does that have to do with the zodiac or astrology? Simple?

888
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:44.840
<v Speaker 1>The Hebrew word for eyes is ion. This is the

889
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>normal word for the body part through which we see.

890
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:51.800
<v Speaker 1>The same word is also used by Ezekiel no less

891
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>in the same chapter to describe sparkling or gleaming in

892
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel one four and also one sixteen. He said, here's

893
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:09.639
<v Speaker 1>a suggestion. Eyes should be understood in Ezekiel one and

894
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel ten as stars sparkling things. This fits amazingly well

895
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>with chapter ten, since they're both the creatures and the

896
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:24.559
<v Speaker 1>wheels gave or I'm sorry, the wheels have the eyes.

897
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>You get it. Creatures, the cardinal points of the zodiac,

898
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:34.159
<v Speaker 1>the creatures having eyes, stars in them. What creatures have

899
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 1>stars in them? The ones you see in the sky,

900
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the signs of the zodiac, And for kickers. This is

901
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:45.400
<v Speaker 1>also what the apostle John says he saw in Revelation

902
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 1>four through five when he looked up to the heavens

903
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>animals with stars in them. You know, with modern cameras,

904
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>we can fix the camera towards a set star at

905
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the north star and do a time lapse video at

906
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>easily see these same wheels within wheels.

907
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.440
<v Speaker 4>That's nuts when you think about it. My dad used

908
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:08.880
<v Speaker 4>to do that kind of My dad used to kind

909
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 4>of do that photography all the time. Those those time

910
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:13.800
<v Speaker 4>lapse photos are the coolest things that you've ever seen.

911
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 4>And you get that fixed center point and everything spins

912
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:17.400
<v Speaker 4>around it.

913
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and.

914
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:21.159
<v Speaker 4>It just looks exactly like you're saying, it's just them

915
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 4>wheel within a wheel within a wheel within a wheel.

916
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 4>But that's actually pretty interesting. And going back a little

917
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:28.960
<v Speaker 4>bit further, even when you're talking about the seven and

918
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:31.239
<v Speaker 4>being that sacred, I think it's funny too, well, not funny,

919
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:33.960
<v Speaker 4>I just another ironic thing when we talk about isn't

920
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:34.840
<v Speaker 4>it ironic?

921
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.360
<v Speaker 3>It's somewhere it talks about wings having eyes all over it.

922
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>We said the creatures had wings, and it said that

923
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the eyes were all about were all over them. Yeah,

924
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:48.199
<v Speaker 1>so that, but that.

925
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Was in revelation though I think, yeah, four through.

926
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 4>Five, it's yeah, but but it's we go back to

927
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.039
<v Speaker 4>job and we talk about one of the two constellations

928
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:01.480
<v Speaker 4>that that you hear him talk about there is Orion,

929
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 4>which he brings up Orion's belt, and he brings up

930
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:07.480
<v Speaker 4>the Pleiades, which it's you know, plead is what they're

931
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:11.199
<v Speaker 4>referred to very commonly as the seven Sisters. Once again,

932
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 4>seven stars, the seven Sisters. You're seeing that same replication

933
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:19.679
<v Speaker 4>of those of that that number seven, even though it's

934
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:25.000
<v Speaker 4>been changed to mean something different now in modern astrology

935
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:27.599
<v Speaker 4>or even astronomy for that matter.

936
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be worth corrupting first exactly.

937
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they wouldn't mess with it if it wasn't worth,

938
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:33.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, messing up.

939
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Which uh I got the Birth of Christ on here.

940
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:43.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I should go into that or not.

941
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.119
<v Speaker 4>That's I mean, we did a little bit of that

942
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:51.280
<v Speaker 4>with the last time. But I mean, if it's part

943
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:52.920
<v Speaker 4>of the process.

944
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it's it's a pretty big deal.

945
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:58.039
<v Speaker 4>But like I said, I mean, the birth of Christ

946
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 4>is kind of he's got a big deal. He's got

947
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:06.960
<v Speaker 4>many leather bond books. Yeah, he knows he knows Merle Olsen.

948
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:09.960
<v Speaker 4>You guys remember that movie.

949
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:11.599
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, you're showing your age.

950
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:13.119
<v Speaker 4>Nothing, that's Anchorman.

951
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Never mind, I take that back.

952
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:16.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of a big deal.

953
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Yeah, I just

954
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:23.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't catch But if we start with the like the

955
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:26.119
<v Speaker 1>birth of Christ, let's start with the wise men. You know,

956
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Matthew two. We're told they see the stars or they

957
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 1>see a star that tells them that the king was born.

958
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, it says that they were from the east.

959
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, in esoteric movements, you know, the sun rises

960
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in the east, and that's said where wisdom comes from. Uh.

961
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But they quoted the prophecy from Micah five to two.

962
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.320
<v Speaker 1>These wise men were from Babylon. You know. These were

963
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:57.679
<v Speaker 1>the sages and astrologers. They knew the scriptures of the

964
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:01.559
<v Speaker 1>coming Messiah because they held the Jewish people in captivity

965
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:05.000
<v Speaker 1>there for many years and were exposed to their prophets

966
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.639
<v Speaker 1>and their writings. Daniel was one of the chief sages

967
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>there while in captivity, and we talked about him a

968
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit earlier, but he interpreted dreams for the king

969
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and was exalted to a very high position. I'm sure

970
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:21.119
<v Speaker 1>he shared his knowledge of the prophecies and the stars

971
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.159
<v Speaker 1>in heaven that YAHWEH placed there for signs and for

972
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:27.960
<v Speaker 1>seasons and wrote them down for them. Nobody knew and

973
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>studied the heavens any better than these guys. This was

974
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:36.199
<v Speaker 1>no single star that led them to the Christ. This

975
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:40.360
<v Speaker 1>was something they saw coming way ahead of time and

976
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:43.760
<v Speaker 1>set out looking. This was a set of constellations and

977
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:47.480
<v Speaker 1>signs in the heavens that led them out, leading them.

978
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 1>They knew the town because of the prophecies. We broke

979
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 1>this down very well in a two part episode on

980
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:59.119
<v Speaker 1>our podcast called Jesus of Nazareth Part one, but it

981
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.480
<v Speaker 1>covers the birth of and all the astronomical stuff. But

982
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 1>some great books on this subject is doctor Michael Heizer's

983
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Reversing Hormone, The Star that Astonished the World by Ernest Martin,

984
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:15.119
<v Speaker 1>and Witness of the Stars by E. W. Bullinger, which

985
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 1>you touched on it on the last episode. But the

986
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Book of Revelation in chapter twelve is what they say,

987
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:28.360
<v Speaker 1>or I'm sorry. The Book of Revelation in chapter twelve

988
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.199
<v Speaker 1>is what they saw in the heavens and that led

989
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:35.320
<v Speaker 1>them to look for his birth. Revelation twelve one through five,

990
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And a great sign appeared in heaven, and a woman

991
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 1>clothed in the sun and the moon under her feet,

992
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 1>and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She

993
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:48.159
<v Speaker 1>was pregnant and crying out in birth pains, in the

994
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 1>agony of giving birth. And another sign in heaven appeared.

995
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Behold a great red dragon with seven heads and ten horns,

996
00:55:56.480 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and on its head seven diadems. His tail swept down

997
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.639
<v Speaker 1>on one third of the stars of heaven and cast

998
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 1>them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the

999
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>woman who was about to give birth, so that when

1000
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:12.039
<v Speaker 1>she bore her child, he might devour it. She gave

1001
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:14.599
<v Speaker 1>birth to a male child, one who was to rule

1002
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the nations with the iron or the iron rod. But

1003
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:22.280
<v Speaker 1>her child was caught up to God and to his throne.

1004
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:26.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, John was caught up to heaven and back

1005
00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.559
<v Speaker 1>in time, and he's seen these events from heaven. This

1006
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.800
<v Speaker 1>verse clearly says that he saw these signs in heaven,

1007
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:38.239
<v Speaker 1>so you know these were astronomical. Number one, he saw

1008
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 1>the sign in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun.

1009
00:56:56.119 --> 00:57:02.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, sorry, he's saying, go on with it. Okay,

1010
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:06.639
<v Speaker 1>this is the constellation Virgo so these wise men saw

1011
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Virgo with the sun placed inside the constellation. The sun

1012
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:13.960
<v Speaker 1>would have to be located between one hundred and fifty

1013
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.679
<v Speaker 1>and one hundred and seventy degrees along the ecliptic. This

1014
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 1>clothing of the sun in Virgo occurs for a twenty

1015
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>day period each year. This twenty degree spread could indicate

1016
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the general time when Jesus was born. But the moon

1017
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:31.320
<v Speaker 1>was also at her feet. This really narrows that window.

1018
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Next thing they looked for was a crown of twelve

1019
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>stars on her head. This is the constellation Leo, and

1020
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.800
<v Speaker 1>it has exactly twelve stars in it. It is also

1021
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:49.400
<v Speaker 1>known for royalty, the King of the Jungle, and Christ

1022
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:57.039
<v Speaker 1>was also known as the lion of the tribe of Judah.

1023
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 2>It's more he's got to ed it out. That's his

1024
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:01.119
<v Speaker 2>own doing.

1025
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:05.199
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about that. Yeah, so that's it.

1026
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Whatever, put it up.

1027
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:06.880
<v Speaker 4>You want to do.

1028
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.679
<v Speaker 2>Sweet, you can't put it up, you get to take

1029
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 2>it out of the book. Oh we don't want to

1030
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.239
<v Speaker 2>do that, dude, I don't care. I think that's awesome.

1031
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:18.159
<v Speaker 4>That's huge. It goes like twenty feet. You go around

1032
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:19.679
<v Speaker 4>the whole frequent here.

1033
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Twice. All right, I'll.

1034
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:27.880
<v Speaker 4>Give meself more work to do.

1035
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Steve, you're good man. Sorry I was late.

1036
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.440
<v Speaker 4>We're just gonna get back in the groove.

1037
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Groove that's right now, get behind these satan unfortunately, man,

1038
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:47.199
<v Speaker 1>job safe.

1039
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:54.519
<v Speaker 4>What you twice as much to make out for me?

1040
00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:00.239
<v Speaker 1>There There ain't no way there.

1041
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Go o K. Guys, though I can't talk Yankee. They

1042
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.440
<v Speaker 2>can't even try that sound we're gay.

1043
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:12.679
<v Speaker 1>That was bud light drinker.

1044
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, slam the door.

1045
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:23.760
<v Speaker 1>But the next sign they had to look for was

1046
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 1>a great red dragon standing before her, waiting to devour

1047
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:32.679
<v Speaker 1>the child. This is the constellation Hydra. The color red

1048
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 1>locates it in the southern sky. It sweeps away one

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00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:41.119
<v Speaker 1>third of the stars points to a location near his

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00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:46.079
<v Speaker 1>tail that is generally lacking in stars. But right above

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00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Hydra is the constellation Choraxe, which is the Raven and

1052
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:57.559
<v Speaker 1>then Crater, which have seven and ten stars Koraks with seven.

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00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:00.719
<v Speaker 1>The number of the heads lies close to Virgo just

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01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:03.559
<v Speaker 1>beneath it. You know, since people have been mapping the

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01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:06.679
<v Speaker 1>stars since the dawn of time, and we know these

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01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.400
<v Speaker 1>heavenly bodies run the same course night after night, year

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<v Speaker 1>after year, like a perfect clock. With our modern computers

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01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and software, we can rewind the hands of that clock

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01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:21.079
<v Speaker 1>to pinpoint dates. Astronomically. All these events happening at the

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01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:25.159
<v Speaker 1>same time gives us a very narrow window. But like

1061
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, the moon being at her feet really

1062
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:35.280
<v Speaker 1>narrows that already small window. It's roughly a nine minute

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<v Speaker 1>window to astronomically pinpoint the birth of Jesus Christ. When

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01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:45.519
<v Speaker 1>we load all this information into an astrological software, we

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01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:48.480
<v Speaker 1>come up with the date of September the eleventh, three BC.

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<v Speaker 1>That would put Mary's encounter with the Angel of the

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01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Lord during Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights. So how fitting,

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01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:02.559
<v Speaker 1>the Light of the world was announced at the Festival

1069
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:08.119
<v Speaker 1>of Lights, placing his berth during the Feast of Tabernacles,

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01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a week long feast where the Jewish people dwelt intense

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01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to remember the day of Exodus, when God tabernacled and

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01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:23.840
<v Speaker 1>dwelled with his people. Only this time he was physically

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<v Speaker 1>dwelling amongst them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how many times I read that or

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01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:33.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about that. That just makes the hair on your

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01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:39.880
<v Speaker 1>arms stand up. You know, it's just amazing, and it does.

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01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:42.920
<v Speaker 1>It just draws you closer to God like.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't make this up.

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01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:48.400
<v Speaker 1>No, man, It's written in the stars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also have the crux and the Cross, and

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01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:00.239
<v Speaker 1>we touched on that a little bit in our last episod.

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01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:04.159
<v Speaker 1>But just for silly giggles. In case I missed anything,

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01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:08.159
<v Speaker 1>we'll just go over real quick. But another interesting correlation

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01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:12.000
<v Speaker 1>with Jesus and the sun. You know, Jesus started his

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01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:15.440
<v Speaker 1>ministry at the age of thirty and he died at

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01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:20.639
<v Speaker 1>age thirty three. The sun is at its zenith, which

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01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:24.440
<v Speaker 1>means its highest point at thirty degrees on the ecliptic.

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01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:31.320
<v Speaker 1>It starts its descent or basically its death, at thirty

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01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:37.199
<v Speaker 1>three degrees. The summer solstice is the shortest day of

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01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:42.199
<v Speaker 1>the year. During this time, the sun halts its southward

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01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:46.119
<v Speaker 1>movement in the constellation of the crux and Cross. There

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01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:51.159
<v Speaker 1>it appears to hold still for three days, then begins.

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01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a scent northward again to the right hemisphere, the

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01:02:56.039 --> 01:03:01.000
<v Speaker 1>right hand of the throne of God. Many mystery religions

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01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:05.280
<v Speaker 1>use many correlations with Jesus and the Sun and try

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01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.559
<v Speaker 1>to show that it's a copy or a retelling of

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01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 1>an already universal truth. You know. That's why a lot

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01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 1>of the mystery religions and occults, you know, hate Christianity

1101
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:19.360
<v Speaker 1>so much they believe it to be a perversion of

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01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:23.519
<v Speaker 1>their truth. But even though the Bible tells us in

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01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the very first chapter that God put the stars in

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01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the heavens for signs and for seasons. Acts two, nineteen,

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01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I will show you wonders in heaven above Psalms nineteen

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01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:39.320
<v Speaker 1>one two. The heavens declare the glory of God. Day

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01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:41.159
<v Speaker 1>to day. It pours out speech and night. The night

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01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.719
<v Speaker 1>reveals knowledge. As we seen above, the heavens declared the

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01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:49.119
<v Speaker 1>coming of Christ. The perversion came from the fallen angels

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01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:52.599
<v Speaker 1>that told you that the power was in these created

1111
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.800
<v Speaker 1>things and not the creator. Paul said, we traded the

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01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 1>truth for a lie. So Acts seven, verse forty two.

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01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:02.199
<v Speaker 1>God turned us away and gave us over to worship

1114
01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the host of heaven. But talking about these events in

1115
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the Tower of Bible Deuteronomy thirty two, through the blood

1116
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of Christ, you are set free from their reign and

1117
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.800
<v Speaker 1>their power to And I said this earlier. To consult

1118
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 1>these things for influence on the future is to go

1119
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:24.760
<v Speaker 1>back into bondage. God's voice is in the stars, the

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01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:29.239
<v Speaker 1>zodiac the Signs and the Truths of the Bible. You know,

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01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a good book on that is Ken Fleming. But it's

1122
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:34.840
<v Speaker 1>a great book and it breaks down all the zodiacs

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01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:38.599
<v Speaker 1>and their deacons. It tells how the story of Christ is,

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01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:41.559
<v Speaker 1>the story of Christ is Written in the Stars, and

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01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:44.679
<v Speaker 1>the story of Salvation. But each of these twelve signs

1126
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:50.159
<v Speaker 1>pictorially represent the profould prophetic events to the unfolding story

1127
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of Salvation in the history of the world. In that

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01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:58.039
<v Speaker 1>the book that he was see one's kind of talking

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01:04:58.079 --> 01:04:59.559
<v Speaker 1>out of it might have been one of them. I

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01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:02.559
<v Speaker 1>old he was talking about Written in the Stars and

1131
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple of other ones. But yeah, that's another good one,

1132
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:09.840
<v Speaker 1>God's Voice in the Stars, the Zodiac Signs and Bible

1133
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:13.719
<v Speaker 1>truth Ken Fleming. But yeah, he was referencing two or

1134
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:18.199
<v Speaker 1>three books. But that might have been one of them.

1135
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:20.920
<v Speaker 1>But I heard Doug van Dorn talk about on a

1136
01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:25.280
<v Speaker 1>show and I thought that was pretty cool. Was he

1137
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:33.360
<v Speaker 1>even correlated the Seven Churches of Revelation with the astronomical stuff.

1138
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.840
<v Speaker 1>But he did a presentation with the SkyWatch TV on

1139
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.840
<v Speaker 1>the Defender conference and he talked about how the Seven

1140
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Churches starting off the Book of Revelation may have been

1141
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:49.360
<v Speaker 1>correlated with the Seven Wandering Stars. Interestingly enough, it's almost

1142
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a mere image of Ple eighties and their seven stars.

1143
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Five and a half cities match up perfectly with the

1144
01:05:57.239 --> 01:06:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Ple eighties. One is barely all, but one city is

1145
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:03.960
<v Speaker 1>just completely off. So I guess that's where he gets

1146
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the half where it's five and a half of the seven.

1147
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:10.400
<v Speaker 1>But Ephesus, the largest city in Asia Minor, the sun

1148
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:14.199
<v Speaker 1>is the largest star. In the letter, Jesus threatens to

1149
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:17.760
<v Speaker 1>remove their lamp stand aka their light right.

1150
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Ephesis then was a big city.

1151
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Samyrna, Like the moon, it waxes and wanes. Jesus

1152
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:31.800
<v Speaker 1>talks about being the first and the last. He died

1153
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and came back to life, all these things again it again,

1154
01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:43.199
<v Speaker 1>it to the moon. Pergenham corresponds with mars Ares, the

1155
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:47.199
<v Speaker 1>god of war. Jesus mentioned a sharp, two edged sword

1156
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:50.519
<v Speaker 1>and that he will war against them with the sword

1157
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:57.559
<v Speaker 1>of his mouth. Thaia Tyra corresponds with Venus, the morning star,

1158
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's flat out called the morning star. In his letter.

1159
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Sardis corresponds with Mercury. He was the god of Thebes,

1160
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and in that letter Jesus says to them that he

1161
01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:16.800
<v Speaker 1>would come like a thief in the night. Yeah, Philadelphia

1162
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:21.719
<v Speaker 1>corresponds to Jupiter, the king of planets. Jesus mentions the

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01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:25.559
<v Speaker 1>king in his letter. He also says he holds the

1164
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:30.480
<v Speaker 1>key of David, the king to which he was prophesied

1165
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to come. And Ladyesea corresponds to Saturn, known for its

1166
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:39.880
<v Speaker 1>sluggish movement in the sky. And the letter these people

1167
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:44.239
<v Speaker 1>were described as luke warm and talked about their sluggishness

1168
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:48.639
<v Speaker 1>and how inefficient that they were. You know, the context

1169
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of these letters warns warns about false teachers and false messiahs.

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01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:57.599
<v Speaker 1>The same message of Jude when he refers to them

1171
01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:01.519
<v Speaker 1>as wandering stars. You know, my opinion is that these

1172
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:06.000
<v Speaker 1>wandering stars which represent actual entities that influence these false

1173
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:13.400
<v Speaker 1>teachers and world leaders today by proxy. But in Revelation

1174
01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of astronomical stuff too, besides just

1175
01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Revelation twelve in the Seven Churches. But let's see. But

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01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.399
<v Speaker 1>in chapter one of Revelation, of verse seventeen, it mentions

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01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:32.399
<v Speaker 1>the one who holds the seven stars in his right hand,

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01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and how that is most likely ple eighties. When we

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01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:39.439
<v Speaker 1>go down to chapter four, we see a close look

1180
01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:43.239
<v Speaker 1>at the throne room of God. Isaiah forty. In verse

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01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:46.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty two says, God sits on his throne above the

1182
01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:52.920
<v Speaker 1>circle or firmament of the earth, its inhabitants like grasshoppers,

1183
01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:56.920
<v Speaker 1>who stretches the heaven like a curtain. I think it's

1184
01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:01.359
<v Speaker 1>funny how Isaiah knew that the universe was expanding thousands

1185
01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of years ago before modern science, and we're just now

1186
01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:09.119
<v Speaker 1>figuring this out. But there we establish God's throne sits

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01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:16.239
<v Speaker 1>above the earth in his throne room Revelation four four

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01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:22.199
<v Speaker 1>through seven. Around the throne on every side we have

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01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:27.159
<v Speaker 1>twenty four elders, which is the divine council. Jesus says

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01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:31.119
<v Speaker 1>in John eleven nine are there not twelve hours in

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01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a day? So twelve and twelve is twenty four. I

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01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:39.479
<v Speaker 1>believe that this is symbolic for time. You know, God

1193
01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:44.279
<v Speaker 1>sits at the center of all time. Verse five says

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01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:49.000
<v Speaker 1>before the throne sits seven torches of fire. Some believe

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01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:52.159
<v Speaker 1>it to be the Minora, some say it's the seven

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01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:55.920
<v Speaker 1>spirits of God. I believe it could also mean the

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01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:01.279
<v Speaker 1>seven planets or wandering stars. Ezekiel twenty eight both mentioned

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01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:05.520
<v Speaker 1>stones of fire that Satan and these angels walked amongst

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01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:10.119
<v Speaker 1>verse six talks about a sea of glass like crystal.

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01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:12.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, could this be, you know, the firmament that

1201
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the throne sits on. Per Isaiah forty twenty two. Verse

1202
01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:20.159
<v Speaker 1>six through eight talks about the four living creatures on

1203
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:24.800
<v Speaker 1>each side of the throne like guardians. That places the

1204
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:29.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty four elders outside of them. And we already discussed

1205
01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:33.880
<v Speaker 1>what these living creatures were. There are the four cardinal

1206
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:37.000
<v Speaker 1>points of the Babylonian zodiac, you know. So John was

1207
01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 1>taken to the throne room of God, where his throne

1208
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:43.000
<v Speaker 1>sits on the firmament of Earth like a sea of glass.

1209
01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Directly in front of the throne are the stones of fire,

1210
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:52.079
<v Speaker 1>the seven planets, wandering stars, and then around are the

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01:10:52.079 --> 01:10:56.039
<v Speaker 1>four living creatures, the four corner corners of the zodiac

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01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:00.159
<v Speaker 1>on each side of the throne room, surrounded on every

1213
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:04.000
<v Speaker 1>by the twenty four Elders, the Divine Council symbolizing the

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01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours in a day. So John was being

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01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:11.800
<v Speaker 1>shown before all the craziness, the revelation that rolls out

1216
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:15.279
<v Speaker 1>assuring his people that God sits at the center of

1217
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:20.760
<v Speaker 1>all time, space and matter and is in control. I've

1218
01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:22.680
<v Speaker 1>never seen that before I thought that was pretty cool.

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01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I've obviously you read about how it's

1220
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 3>set up, but actually.

1221
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Trying to figure out why I've.

1222
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Never because I always read it just like literally, Okay,

1223
01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:41.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a throne, there's four living creatures, there's twenty four

1224
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:44.600
<v Speaker 1>people around it, you know what I mean. It is

1225
01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:48.600
<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's literal, and then you get to

1226
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:51.600
<v Speaker 1>digging a little deeper into symbolism and stuff like that,

1227
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:55.399
<v Speaker 1>and it's just wild. It's just you know, it's like

1228
01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:59.399
<v Speaker 1>John was taking up into outer space, or given a

1229
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:03.199
<v Speaker 1>vision of it anyway, looking down on everything as a whole,

1230
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:07.600
<v Speaker 1>seeing the big picture. God's you know, Earth, God's thrown

1231
01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:12.840
<v Speaker 1>on top, the four constellations of the zodiac around him,

1232
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:15.760
<v Speaker 1>then the twenty four Elders, the Divine Counsel, which is

1233
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.359
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours in a day, that's all time, space

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01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and matter, and God right in the center of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I haven't got it all ironed out yet.

1237
01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:36.159
<v Speaker 1>But I'll throw my little theory out just friends to

1238
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:39.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe ponder on. Maybe one of you guys can figure

1239
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:42.399
<v Speaker 1>it out for me. Send me an email, let me know,

1240
01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:46.439
<v Speaker 1>because this is something that i've threw around and postulated,

1241
01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:50.079
<v Speaker 1>but I've not really sit down and tried to work out.

1242
01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:56.199
<v Speaker 1>But the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Okay, a lot

1243
01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:59.680
<v Speaker 1>of people don't notice this, but the four horsemen are

1244
01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:05.039
<v Speaker 1>called out by these four living creatures, not God. Every

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01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 1>single time it says, you know, the living creature says,

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01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:11.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, come forth. You know. So when I noticed this,

1247
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 1>I started doing some dignessy if there's any way that

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01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I can draw connections to these four riders or horses,

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01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to these four constellations. You know. The search didn't turn

1250
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.359
<v Speaker 1>out completely void, but still has kind of open ended

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<v Speaker 1>and left for interpretation. But the first living creature it

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<v Speaker 1>calls forth a white horse, and it has a bow.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Some think that this is Christ, but Christ

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<v Speaker 1>comes later with a sword, not a bow. One entity

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<v Speaker 1>in the ancient world that comes to mind is resh Eef,

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<v Speaker 1>the plague god, the god of war. It mentions a crown.

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<v Speaker 1>The only constellation of the four that we are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at here have to be Leo that's associated with kingship.

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<v Speaker 1>So Revelation twelve Leo is the crown with twelve stars

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<v Speaker 1>on the woman. Zachariah six mentions these same horses but

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<v Speaker 1>they have chariots. I believe these to be the same.

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<v Speaker 1>In that passage, the white horse rides north from the

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<v Speaker 1>throne of God. So I believe this first living creature

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<v Speaker 1>to be Leo in the northern hemisphere. So that puts

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<v Speaker 1>it around March April, or may you know. As spring

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<v Speaker 1>progresses into summer, Leo drifts progressively to the west. But

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<v Speaker 1>the second living creature calls forth the red horse, who

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<v Speaker 1>takes peace and makes war. This makes me think of

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<v Speaker 1>Taurus the bull. Just beside of Taurus is Ares, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the god of war rule by Mars, the

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<v Speaker 1>red planet. Zachariah six doesn't mention where this horse rides,

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<v Speaker 1>but verse seven says when the strong horses came out,

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<v Speaker 1>they were impatient to go and patrol the earth, so

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<v Speaker 1>they went. Taurus is visible fall through spring in the

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<v Speaker 1>northern hemisphere or spring through fall in the southern hemisphere.

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<v Speaker 1>The third living creature calls forth a black horse, and

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<v Speaker 1>that it had scales that looks like weight scales, But

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<v Speaker 1>the word in Greek actually means yoke like a plow

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<v Speaker 1>ox would wear, symbolizing slavery or bondage. The constellation of

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<v Speaker 1>queries is depicted often with a yoke on its back

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<v Speaker 1>carrying water. And Zacharaia six we see this horse rides

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<v Speaker 1>north with with the white horse. Here we see a

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<v Speaker 1>day's wage for one meal. A quaius can be found

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<v Speaker 1>in the northern hemisphere during autumn or in the southern

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<v Speaker 1>in the spring. And then the fourth living creature calls

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<v Speaker 1>forth the pale horse, and its rider's name is Death,

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<v Speaker 1>and with it comes Hades. He kills with the sword, famine, pestilence,

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<v Speaker 1>and wild beasts of the field. This leaves us only

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<v Speaker 1>with the scorpio or the eagle Death where is thy sting?

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<v Speaker 1>And Zachariah sixth we see that this horse rides south

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<v Speaker 1>July and August. It is located in the northern hemisphere,

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<v Speaker 1>and as summer wanes it drifts southwest. The zodiac will

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<v Speaker 1>goes counterclockwise with the living creatures giving the rider's direction

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<v Speaker 1>as constantly. You know, if my theory is correct, you

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<v Speaker 1>can time the seasons of the coming of the horsemen.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't predict their coming by no means. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>no man knows the hour. You know it would take

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<v Speaker 1>someone who knows a lot more about stars than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I found that there was interesting correlations with the

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<v Speaker 1>riders and these four living creatures. You know, if my

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<v Speaker 1>postulations are correct, there's a lot of correlations with them

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<v Speaker 1>that could be made. Yeah. Now, granted, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>constellation will goes kind or clockwise, and we know which

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<v Speaker 1>constellations are in the certain hemispheres at certain times of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. But just like in zachar Wrio says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this horse goes north or this horse goes this horse

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<v Speaker 1>goes south, that clock continually goes around and around and around.

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<v Speaker 1>So even if the pale horse is released in the

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<v Speaker 1>southern hemisphere, that doesn't mean the next time the next

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<v Speaker 1>horseman comes to the right hemisphere that it's the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>It mean, you just don't know. I mean it could be.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're not meant to know, But I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought the correlations still figure out. It's fun to postulate.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, that's it, guys. I got a couple other

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<v Speaker 1>little things, but you guys can dig on your own

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<v Speaker 1>and get your own stuff. But we just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about how the story of salvation in Christ

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<v Speaker 1>was written in the stars that I thought was wild. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just wanted to go through the Bible and

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<v Speaker 1>show you places in the Bible where constellations and zodiacs

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that we're mentioned that maybe you might

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<v Speaker 1>have looked over. Keep digging. Thanks for listening to the

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