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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donna Peters. His name

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is Tim Duckworth. It is Monday, October thirteenth, four thirty

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one pm. We are in the fabulous Poker Growth Studio.

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It may not look too fabulous right now, because you

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know what this is like, I mean you might not

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know I for sure. No, this is like when you're

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at the club, we're way too damn long and at

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the end of the night they turn the lights on

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and this is what it looks right, I mean like,

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this is just what it looks like. So a bit

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dressed down, need to doll things up quite a bit here,

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but they'll make it happen because the PGTPLO series starts

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on Tuesday, which was it's probably likely when you guys

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are listening to this, so hopefully producer rich Ryant will

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get it up on Tuesday morning. And yeah, we're gonna

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recap the Poker Masters. We got to talk about that

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PGT PLO series because that is upcoming. I am kicking

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Tim's ass in the PGT Fantasy right but we're gonna

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do our redraft today. Set us up for a PLO

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series WPT shooting Star. I want to touch on that

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because that is coming up soon. I think I put

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together the list of all the shooting stars, couldn't really

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get it all in one place. I had to go

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to Instagram and look at multiple different poses. Very weird.

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W SUP Europe if you guys didn't know, which many

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people didn't really know wrapped up. So we're gonna touch

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on that because you know that that is it was

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once like such a staple, a pillar of the industry,

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and now it feels like it's almost an afterthought for

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lack of a better term. I mean, I love europ

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So we'll get into that and we'll touch on all that,

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and then, you know, anything else that comes up as

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we go, maybe we'll hit on some things. Poker Go

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and then the eighth way is to win the leader

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So eight ways total for you to win a dream seed,

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and at least three of them are free ways. The

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we got the podcast one, right, So we have multiple

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hopefully one of you is coming out here and playing

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in the PGT Million Dollar Championship. We get to meet

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you and you know, I don't know you final table,

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you go on to win half a million dollars all that.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff regard to the club and make it look

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like this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so we can go to the club and we

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can make it look like this. That is damn damn

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rights as it relates to the play Poker giveaway. No

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purchase necessary. You must be twenty one or older and

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a US resident to enter. Full rules and details available

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on pokergrow dot com slash rules. All right, Poker Masters

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rec we have a new purple Jacket winner and it

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is David Coleman. Coleman opened the series with a win

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in the million Dollar Showcase, took home two hundred and

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seventy thousand dollars, and then he bookended the series with

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a second place in the twenty five K finale. Don't

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remember how much that was for, but good amount of

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change there. He did a little bit of a deal

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with Brandon Wilson. They did some shopping when they got

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heads up, but still played for the win. Brandon Wilson

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five there you go. So he cast for what six

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fifty total? Yeah, pretty much, okay, crusher. He had another

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cash in there somewhere in the middle of the series,

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not a final table, but that that extra cash was

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probably enough to, you know, kind of give him that

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sort of boost. Four n ninety two points total from Coleman.

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He had one win, he had three cashes. Now he

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is still outside the top forty of the season long

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leader board, but those four hundred and ninety two points

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did really boost him up quite nicely. He's got seven

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hundred and thirteen points on the season right now, number

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forty and the top forty get into the PGT Million

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Dollar Championship. Right now, Number forty is nine oh two.

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And I believe it's Patrick Leonard. It is who's backs Vegas?

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna come play?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's been talking about it. He didn't you

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see his didn't you see his ID? But his story

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that said, like, this is the Blagio, this is where

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I go visit Crazy Mike. This is Aria, That's where

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PLO is. This is the Blagio, this is Aria behind Aria,

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that's poker Go, the best arena in the world. That's

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what he was that's that was his story. So he

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also said that he was he has a dog, Sandro

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he said development I don't know, but he said he's

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going to bring his dog to the studio and make

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it the Prince of poker Goro is.

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Speaker 2: What he said. Prince.

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Speaker 1: I don't know last time there was a dog in

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here at bit someone so we might we might not

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want to go down that route. But anyway, Patrick Leonard

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is number forty, but he's going to be out here

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for the pgt PLO series. I'm guessing he's going to

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be out here for the stretch that is it was

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PGT PLO. There's the Fall Classic is at the win

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right now. Now it all leads into November. You got

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an apt Las Vegas. You have obviously the win in December.

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Pads also said he mentioned the win, he like showed

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it down, but he was like bad things happened there.

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Like he's like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know where he lost these possible.

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Speaker 1: He was talking about all the the women that are

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walking to the Encore Beach Club right next to the pokeron.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's to males. We shouldn't say it's annoying.

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But we were both there this weekend. Last weekend, it

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was annoying.

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Speaker 1: I don't find it annoyed because it doesn't distract me.

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Speaker 2: There was don't annoy you, Like I'm just loud. I

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even had my AirPods in it, and I could still

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hear it through my AirPods.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I guess used to it by now,

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so I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily I'm more defin than you, so it

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should bother me less.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I play more there, so I'm I think

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I'm just used to it. There was a player at

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my table who was trying to persuade the floor staff

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that they should build a barrier so you can't see.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you can't say, you know what I the Friday.

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You know they have three rows at the very off topic,

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and you know they have the three rows of tables,

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like row the thirties, the forties, of the fifties. I

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was seen in the thirties, which is closest to all

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the women go but the rose forties and.

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Speaker 1: Pans men's let's be barely it's meant too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's barely any men, But like, why did they

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see this? Like I know it might not make that

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much of a difference, but like, why not see this

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in the fifties, so where like, yeah, I get it

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further away, less decimated.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a lot of people that like the eye candy.

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I don't know, you know, I don't know, Sean. The

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only thing that I when I watched those people, I'm like, man,

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I used to do that. I don't know how I

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did that. Like it makes me like feel like I

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feel like horrible inside watching the drunk people. I'm like,

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I can never.

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Speaker 2: Do someone on the day. And I said when I

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was younger, because we're both old now, I never went.

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I think I've been to one pool party. It's never

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interested me. Like the heat and the music and the alcohol.

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I didn't feel like it was a good mix going

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on to the class. Obviously you and I did that fair

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bit when we were younger, but the pool just never

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interested me. I just I just couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just talking about, you know, the stumbling around

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a casino drunk off your ass, like all that sort

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of stuff. I just I can't really get into it anymore.

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And it's it's a big base turn of that to

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not lots of money, like.

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Speaker 2: What number to get as drunk as possible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would have to be a ton of

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money to get drunk. I don't drink. I haven't drink

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seven years, so I don't even know. I can't even function.

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Fifteen dollars, no fucking it's gotta be a big, big number,

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five figures for sure.

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Speaker 2: Five. I think that would be less than that.

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Speaker 1: But no way am I getting No, No, I'm not

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doing it. I'm not doing it for less than ten

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k I'm not percent And that might sound stupid and.

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Speaker 2: Don't find me dot com slash Donnie gets drunk.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm not. I'm not doing it like it's

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just it's just it's it's it's off torture. Yeah, absolute

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freaking torture. So David Coleman won the twenty twenty five

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Poker Master's Purple Jack and he also got a twenty

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five KPGT passport as a bonus prize after he won.

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I did speak with him for about three or four minutes.

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So let's listen to this interview right now with David Coleman,

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and then we'll come on back on the other side. Here.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, There you have it, guys. David Coleman your Poker

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Masters Champion.

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Speaker 3: Well good, thank you. Feels amazing. Yeah, extremely grateful. Just

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a good run of cards against amazing competition, and it's

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really anyone's getting in these things, like it's just a

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matter of how the cards go. But uh, yeah, I

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feel very comfortable here. I've been playing here for a

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while now and see the same faces over and over,

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so nothing really surprises me the way people are playing.

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But yeah, I just honestly, it's just insane how lucky

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I've been recently. So I'm extremely grateful this tournament. It

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was the most I've ever had like ulterior considerations during

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the tournament like that I have any tournament ever played.

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So yeah, it was definitely in the back of my mind.

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You kind of saw it in the Queen Queen hand

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I had against Brandan's Open, which honestly think it's kind

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of like a okay to spot the flat even without

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like the considerations for the jacket, so I just flatted.

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But yeah, it was definitely in the back of my mind,

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like I said, more so than it's ever been usually.

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I just played poker like I you know, I'm trying

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to make most money always, but you know, there's some

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considerations to try to win the tournament. But yeah, this

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was it was interesting dynamic for sure. I was really

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anti sweating Doug at the end there, and uh yeah,

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just super grateful when Yeah, I'm a pretty like reasonably

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emotional guy, so like, yeah, I definitely get visibly frustrated sometimes,

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but I've just been playing this game so so much

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for the last ten years that my experience kind of

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overwhelms the emotion most of the time. Yeah, it was

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crazy what was going on yesterday. I was just making

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huge hands and it felt like the decks were rigged.

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I was joking about it, but uh yeah, it was

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a wild stretch there, Like as we were approaching the money,

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I was only planning and playing maybe a handful of

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the PLL, but I'll probably play all of them now. Yeah,

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I would love to play the free role play. The

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last year. It was a great tournament. It's an honor

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to be in there. So yeah, I'm definitely gonna fire

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hard the rest of the year. I mean, I was

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already planning and playing most of No Limit, but I'll

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probably play with all the people now. But yeah, it's

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been a hell of a ride.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no regrets whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: I feel extremely blessed, extremely grateful for playing this game

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for a living that I love so much, because like,

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ID never worked the day in my life. So yeah,

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it's it's incredible. It's a dream. I get to travel

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the world and play the game that I love and.

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Speaker 2: See all these cool places.

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Speaker 3: And hang out with my friends all the time. This

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is awesome, maybe the happiest day of my career. It's

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an honor, especially do it in my backyard.

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Speaker 2: Here, all right.

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Speaker 1: That was David Coleman, once a nine to five, left

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his job, dove into poker. What did he do and

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now he or he is? I have no idea, probably

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some sort of finance or yeah something. I feel like

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he's that type of guy, like you know, investments or

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finance advisor, you know, something along those lines. So we'll

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ask him. We'll ask yeh, he should he should be

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playing all the PLO events.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's the He said he was definitely now going

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to play the fives. Whether or not he gets a

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bit high, I think is gonna maybe depending how he's running.

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We not pay Alon gets expensive.

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Speaker 1: PLO does get expensive. I just played the PLO satellite

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and busted and I'm listen, I am not a PLO expert.

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I think I can like kind of hold my own,

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you know a little bit. I mean that's questionable. But

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people play PLO way worse than people play hold like

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the bad like it's it's horrendous and PLO.

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Speaker 2: Are you saying what the bad play is worse than

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the bad and Olema plays or do you mean the

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average PLO player.

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Speaker 1: Is Yeah, I think people generally like have a grasp

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on the concept to hold them Yeah, And PLO people

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are just like like wildly all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm saying that thinking that I'm

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also probably bad in a lot of spots, but like

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not as bad as all some of this stuff is

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like I don't even know what these people are doing.

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I mean, they're just they really are just gambling, and

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I just I don't think you need to gamble all

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that much. But you know, whatever it is, what it is,

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it's it's entertaining to watch, that's for sure, and we're

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gonna see plenty of it starting on Tuesday. The other

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event winners as it pertains to the twenty twenty five

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Poker Masters, so we already touched on Coleman. He won

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that Poker Master's Million dollars Showcase. Then we had Mike Zolker,

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then we had Andrew Moreno, then we had Darren Olias,

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then we had China Reim. Is that what we talked about.

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Speaker 2: I think we discussed do we.

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Speaker 1: Talk about foxing or do we not talk about fox in?

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Well fox and one of at number six, whether or

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not we talked about in the last episode, I forget,

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but he won it at number six two hundred and

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seventy two thousand dollars Korea PGT title Yes, and we're

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going to get some more on Alex Foxon in a

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second number seven, Carrie Katz now wins it l Hefe

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win Ley won the fifteen K, the first fifteen K,

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there was two of them. Justin Saliba won the second

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fifteen K, and Justin Saliba had a great interview afterwards.

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He got emotional tears in his eyes, you know, very

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candid about everything and in the grind that is poker.

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That was absolutely incredible to see that emotion. I actually

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thought that all of the interviews that came out of this,

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we interviewed every winner, they were all incredible good. They

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were very, very very good, even.

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Speaker 2: Even even carry Katz.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I've tried to interview him before. He

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hits you with one word answers. He doesn't like being

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on video.

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Speaker 2: But you said at the time when you finished, that's

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the best interview.

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Speaker 1: That was the best interview so far for sure. And

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then you know, two events later, doesn't sleep. It just

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went and blew it out of the water. Brandon Wilson

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also interviewed him. He won the final events. As we mentioned,

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he did a deal with David Coleman. They ended up

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playing to a winner anyway, had some money left over,

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but Brandon Wilson for in sixty four thousand dollars for

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a win in that twenty five k all Things considered

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Fun series. Yeah, it was really good to have a

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pretty big sweat in terms of the numbers of players

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that were in contention for the purple jacket entering the

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final event, so that was good. Coleman had to finish

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I believe it was third, went on to finish second

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in that final event. You had Doug Lee at the

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final table. He was in contention as well, so there

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was a lot to play for you know, deep in

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the event, which is you know, really all we can

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ask for from a competition perspective when it comes to

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the race for the Purple Jacket. Alex Foxen was holding

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on to the lead in the race of the Purple

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Jacket for quite some time and then he just had

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to fade a whole bunch of people at the end

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and he did or sorry he didn't. Sorry my fault,

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he didn't. It got down to what was it. Dougley

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got third, Alex Foxon got second, Brandon Wilson got first.

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But once once it got to the final three, Boxon

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knew that he couldn't win anymore. Correct, Yeah, that was that.

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But as it relates to, Alex Foxon had a pretty

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good series, earned more than four hundred PGT points. He

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moved back up to the top of the PGT season

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long leader board. I believe he was at the top

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kind of towards the beginning of the season. Well he's

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back on top now. So the clear front runner for

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the PGT Player of the Year title. Along with that

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comes you probably get a trophy. Do you get a trophy?

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He does get a trophy, should get a trophy. It's

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a golf fight. There you go, you get a trophy,

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We'll try and get you on the cover of Card

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Player magazine, because that's what Jaremy Osmas was.

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Speaker 2: That's the easy one.

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Speaker 1: You get a fifty K PGT passport, You get that

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and you get to go into the PGT Championship then

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with the most chips another advantage, So a lot of

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stuff to play for as it relates to the PGT

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Player of the Year now. Also during the twenty twenty

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five Poker Masters, Alex Foxen became the first player to

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record one hundred PGT caches, most all time in that category.

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He also got his tenth PGT title as Tim mentioned

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earlier when he won event number six, and Foxton is

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oh so close to ten thousand career PGT points. He

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is the leader in that category as well, could become

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the first to get to ten k. I would say

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he's a favor to do it during PGTPLO series, Yeah right,

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I mean, unless he's gonna be going somewhere and not

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playing in the entire series. But I would imagine he

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is going to play it and gonna probably do well

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because he's Alex Foxon. He's an absolute crusher. Another storyline,

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Doug Lee I mentioned how he got third place in

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that finale. Doug Lee is on the PGT heater of

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a lifetime like this is just unbelievable. I just published

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a story today on PGT dot com done by Sean Chaffin.

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He spoke with Doug Lee about his that he's been

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on on the PGT and it actually dates back to

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before the PGT the five kwpt Venetian event. Yeah, he

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got into that event, he finished I think in the

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top twenty for like thirty three K, and then he

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said that he was basically going to use those funds

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as like a quasi satellite to then play some PGT stuff. Well,

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he won a three hundred and eighty dollars satellite to

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PGT Venetian, finished third for one hundred and twenty K,

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one a satellite to the Pokemaster Showcase, finished sixth for

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forty nine K, played a couple other PGT events, ultimately

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gets into the twenty five K finishes third there for

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two hundred and something K. You know, he cashed for

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like five hundred and eighty thousand dollars or something total

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on this run on the PGT over the last you know, month,

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month and a half or so. Just absolutely incredible stuff.

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And again there is an article an interviewer feature story

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with Doug Lead that Sean Chaffin did on PGT dot com.

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Would highly encourage you guys go give it a read.

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Speaker 2: I didn't spot him in the PLOS highlight today, did

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you say it?

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Speaker 1: I didn't, And he said in that article that he

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does very well on satellites and he usually wins a

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seat seventy to eighty percent of the time. So I

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don't know if he plans on not playing PLO. I

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don't know if he doesn't play polo. I feel like

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he does it, don't.

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Speaker 2: We ask him and he says, yeah, I'll be here.

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I'll be back for the payoffs. So maybe he's he's

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too rich for satellite Maybe he's too rich for satellites now.

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Maybe he's too rich for satellites now. You never know,

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but I hope he's back because it's been a crazy

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success story to see him go through it. So shout

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out to Doug Lee there. PGT leaderboard update. We got

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Alex foxon on top. As I mentioned, Michael mcrocky is second, Samsoveral, third,

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Nick Shulman, fourth, Chino Reem, Adam Hendrix, Daniel Legrando, Andrew Liechtenberger,

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John w Wasnock and Jesse Lonis. That's the top ten.

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Two of those players, Michael the Grinderbins Rocky and John Wasnock,

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who have a lot of history, first and second place

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in the WSP maon event currently not qualified correct Now

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they have two cashes, they need a third. Was Wasnock

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has been grinding. I don't know if he plays PLO.

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I asked him. He said no.

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Speaker 1: He was in Texas for the WPT of any Keep

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Run there. I think he got thirty third, thirty six

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or something like that. So he's out there grinding. He's

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out there chasing, you know. I know he did shoot

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us a message about when the True Classic res to

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Rich's event is, So I would guess we're going to

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see him there, I would an apt, Yeah, maybe an apt.

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I mean, I know it's I feel like it's a

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little bit steeper price point than he might normally play.

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But you know, the ten K should be okay, you know,

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like there's a couple of ten k's on there that

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that should be all right. Miss Rocky, I mean, who

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knows he can pop in here every now and then.

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Speaker 2: He played one of the Bounty Blitz series and now

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he's been driving of Ben Lamb all around the world and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's a Venetian too.

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Speaker 2: He's then he was back leadership in Monda Jane and

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I Bounty Tournament the other week and playing cash games.

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So look, he knows, he knows what he needs. We

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kind of talked to him during the Heads Up Championship.

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He's aware of the schedule. He's obviously very close with

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some people that play here frequently, such as China reems,

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such as Jad Blessnik. So I would expect, you know,

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especially Blaz to probably convince him to come play some

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of these PLO events. And if we see Blaz, if

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we see Blaz for the five k s, which you

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never know with him, probably send him, Probably give him

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a little nudge, be like, hey, don't forget grinder needs

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one more Yeah, you know, try and get him down

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to play some events and make a run at winning

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another PGT title for the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I think both of them will

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probably get it the third cash I mean, they're just

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they're grinding a lot of the stuff they're out there playing,

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so we'll see. It would be it would be great

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to have them both in there, you know. I think

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they've at least was not gonna certainly put in the volume.

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You know, Ms Rocky had the big summer, right, maybe

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not the same sort of volume that some of the

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other players on the PGT have put in, but you

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know we could see him getting was.

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Speaker 2: They played, He catched the Venetian Maine, paid a couple

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of he played the Showcase, played the next five K,

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and I think he played the first ten k at

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pokem Masters. So definitely playing a bunch of events to

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try and get that third cash. But yeah, I agree,

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hopefully he does get it.

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Speaker 1: Anything else on the PGT, lootle words stick out to you.

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I feel like I said, I feel like mcgran who

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he's in seventh place. He's been quiet. Yeah he's tumbled

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a couple of spots, but he's back.

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Speaker 2: He'll be back for the PLO. You know, just outside that,

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you know that top ten where Kristen Foxon moved back

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up with a couple of people like Mike Zulker who

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you mentioned, you know, move up from that low forties.

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He's now seventeenth. You've obviously got some players, you know,

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tumbling down that didn't have a great didn't have a

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good Poker Masters or didn't attend, and now you know

473
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,519
we're going to talk about the PLO series coming up.

474
00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:35,880
Some of those guys with those big PLO scores earlier

475
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,119
in the year at PGT PLO series and at the

476
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,839
World series that have tumbled down because they don't play

477
00:22:40,839 --> 00:22:43,440
really much else and this is their chance to you know,

478
00:22:43,519 --> 00:22:46,079
to creep back up, shoot back up into that top forty,

479
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,960
or even make a run. You know, look at say

480
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,319
Dylan Lindy sitting in eighteenth, the Tyra Guerrero sitting at forty,

481
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,359
to make a run into the top ten, try and

482
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,440
lock up their seat, you know, so they don't have

483
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,039
to play anything else if they really don't want to.

484
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Sean Rafael, I've go here, Mickey Dueck

485
00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:04,880
as well. Richard Rico. You know he's in thirty fifth

486
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,079
right now. I would assume he's going to be out

487
00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:10,559
here for the PGT PLO series. Somebody like a Matthew

488
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:12,119
Woman who's currently.

489
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: In forty first right on that fringe.

490
00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's technically tied with Patrick Leonard.

491
00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:18,079
Speaker 2: Yeah he if it was if we called it today,

492
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,960
he'd be in would give him as spot.

493
00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:20,799
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but he's going to be out here

494
00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:22,519
playing all the plo. Yeah, you know, a very good

495
00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:24,880
PLO player, So you know, would expect him to be

496
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,680
out here battling and we'll see how he goes. Ben

497
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,880
Tolleran's another one, you know, currently forty nine, so right there,

498
00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:33,680
So yeah, so we'll see. Jason Kuhn is an interesting one.

499
00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:36,039
You know, he won the PGT Championship a couple of

500
00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:39,279
years ago, I think twenty twenty two. You know, he

501
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,319
hasn't done a ton on the PGT this year. He

502
00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:45,000
doesn't put in the biggest volume. He's basically a twenty

503
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,480
five K plus player these days, and twenty five k

504
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:49,599
might even be if he but he's got three cashes.

505
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,920
He won the fifty K at the w SPF course

506
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,640
that was a large chunk of his points. But he's

507
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,000
fifty third, you know, he's less than one hundred points

508
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,920
outside of the top forty. I would expect we see

509
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,640
him for the twenty five Kpolo Finale and the hunter

510
00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:06,519
K Polo Super High Roll Level.

511
00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: I also expect him to play every PGT qualifying event

512
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,519
at the NAPT loss mainly do obviously. So he's partnership

513
00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:17,039
with pocusas that being a pokusas Brandon event, you know,

514
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,920
even the ten k, which may be out of his

515
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,400
you know, buy and range. Yeah, he'll he'll, he'll probably play.

516
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,559
Speaker 1: All he he'll probably play the I mean not that accounts,

517
00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:25,519
but the five k in there, I would imagine he's

518
00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:29,880
in that. So yeah, you know, he's someone who you know,

519
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,680
being a prior PGT champion and you know, I would

520
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,400
love to see him get back in there once again.

521
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,799
And then two names kind of not by coincidence that

522
00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:40,799
I'm mentioning these two because they all kind of roll together,

523
00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:43,759
Seth Davies and Jeremy ols is not far behind him.

524
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,039
You know, Jeremy olism was reigning PGT Player of the Year,

525
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:49,480
reigning PGG Championship winner. He's started to really pick up

526
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,000
the pace in terms of like putting up bigger scores.

527
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:55,000
He has a ton of cashes six sixteams. Yeah, but

528
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:57,720
like the big scores have him been coming. He's got

529
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,240
and eighty eight points right now.

530
00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:01,839
Speaker 2: He's made seven Finnel tables. Only two of those final

531
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,599
tables he's finished in the top three. Yeah, so he's

532
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:07,480
definitely falling short of those big point opportunities. He's putting

533
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,160
in that work. So you know, he's got the PLO series,

534
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,319
he's got an APT, he's got a lot of events

535
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:15,000
coming up that are really gonna be in his wheelhouse

536
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,359
for him to make that run it. You know, probably

537
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,519
can't catch Alex fox is gonna take a lot of work,

538
00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:21,880
but hey, at least getting to the championship to try

539
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,839
and to fan you know, that title at least.

540
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure anyone's gonna be able to catch Foxing.

541
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:28,759
I mean he's got I mean, he's got a little

542
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:31,799
bit over six innerd point lead over Sam so Overell,

543
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:33,759
and I bring him up because I think Sam Silver

544
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:36,039
is going to put in more volume than Michael mssjauki

545
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,039
in second place. So not that Miss Rocky, couldn't you know,

546
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,480
let's say come in for I don't know, the twenty

547
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:43,559
five kp'll win the damn thing and then he's got

548
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:45,519
a boat a little points. I mean that could obviously happen,

549
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,200
But you know, Sam Soverll, Nick Shulman, China Reim Adam Hendrix,

550
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,960
you know they're going to put in volume. So if

551
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,039
they have some sort of crazy late surge, I mean

552
00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:57,480
it could happen. These guys all have a lot of

553
00:25:57,519 --> 00:26:01,359
success this year on the PGT. You know, Shulman is

554
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,319
somebody who I feel like it's it's only a matter

555
00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:07,920
of time before Nick Shulman wins a series title. I

556
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,839
can also say the same thing for Alex fox and

557
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,799
Alex Foxen was so close with the jacket and then

558
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,359
you know, he had to just fade things in the

559
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,240
final event ultimately didn't get it. But you know, Foxing

560
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:19,799
and Shulman one of the best players on the PGT

561
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:23,079
of all time in terms of like cashes, money won,

562
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,160
earning points, finishing in the top forty, if not you know,

563
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,359
the top fifteen, top ten, all that sort of stuff.

564
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,720
Shulman got second the championship event to Ozma's last season.

565
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,279
Like you know, they are always, always, always just one

566
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:37,440
of the best players, one of the best competitors on

567
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,200
the PGT, but they don't have them like a series title. Yeah,

568
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,960
they have individual tournament trophies, but they haven't like one USPO,

569
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,319
they haven't won even like the mixed games. They haven't

570
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,119
won Poker Masters, et cetera.

571
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: So there's any four players that have multiple series titles.

572
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:54,480
Shau went to China Rabe saving she'd wake David patis

573
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,599
the most top five finishes from any playout not named

574
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,720
Alex Chino rem got two wins, two thirds, two fourths

575
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,960
Alex Series in the series. Yeah, series leaderboards, Alex Foxon

576
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:12,240
two seconds, three thirds, a fourth and two fifths. There's

577
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:15,799
eight top five finishes in series leaderboards. But yet, obviously

578
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,000
to break through to get that, I still.

579
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:20,839
Speaker 1: Wish we did the Grand Slam idea or the Triple

580
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,440
Crown idea.

581
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,039
Speaker 2: I wish we did it.

582
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: I wish we had a bonus for that.

583
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: Find us some more money and we'll creative bonus.

584
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need to find more money.

585
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,960
I need to reallocate current money. Okay, that's what That's

586
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,880
what you have, all right, So I guess that's kind

587
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,400
of enough PGT talk. You guys can obviously check everything

588
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,480
out at PGT dot com. There's a leaderboard page. We

589
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:44,839
got the PGTPLO series starting on Tuesday, October fourteenth. There

590
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:47,400
are ten events there. We're going to get into that next,

591
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,480
but of course you guys can follow along with everything

592
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,319
on at PGT dot com and then the final three

593
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:55,519
final tables from the series will be live streamed on

594
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:01,680
poker Go PGTPLO series. Why don't you, why don't you

595
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,920
tell us what we got? We're going to play some plo.

596
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,480
So it's called the PILO series. And you know this

597
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:11,319
is pretty much copy pay schedule of March.

598
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: Players loved it, got no complaints, So say hey, let's

599
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,720
run this back ten events binds ranging from fifty one

600
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:20,680
hundred all the way up to twenty five two hundred.

601
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:24,839
We made one change. We switched the five eventus. A

602
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,119
five was a five K PLO progressive bounty. We switched

603
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,400
that to a quadra. Now we saw a lot of

604
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:34,200
success during the bounty series and a lot of favorable

605
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,559
responses about the quatro. So, for you guys at home,

606
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:40,920
the top the twenty five the final twenty five percent

607
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,920
of the field gets paid and gets paid equal share

608
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,559
of the bounty. So in this case, five K, two

609
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,480
thousand dollars allocated to the bounty prize. Fool from me, gentry.

610
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:52,119
So once we get to that final twenty five percent,

611
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,400
everyone's going to win a K for every knockout. You know,

612
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:58,440
it basically means that when you boss, if you or

613
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,279
you enter late, none of the money out of price

614
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:03,279
Pol's gone. It's all reserved for once registration's closed. That's

615
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:06,359
kind of an important part of the bounties. Obviously there

616
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,680
is a place for progressive bounties in PLO and Mystery

617
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,640
Bounie's same kind of concept. Money isn't taking out of

618
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,559
the prize punto registration's close. So yeah, that's the one

619
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,839
change we're doing this year. We're doing quadro Bownie as

620
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,279
event too, but yeah, I'm looking forward to it. It's

621
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:23,079
it is one of our most heavily attended series. You

622
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,440
got people coming from all walks of this world looking

623
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,720
forward to just yeah, just trying to hit some big numbers.

624
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,440
Last sees opening event. So March is opening about one

625
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,680
hundred and sixty four entrants, then one fifty nine fifty nine,

626
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,160
so that kind of shows the popularity you know of

627
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:42,000
part limit Omaha, and that was in March when we

628
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,400
were missing a substantial amount of players. So you know, hey,

629
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,480
if we can get at least one fifty to open

630
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,000
the series this year, the record we have is two

631
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:52,799
hundred in that first event. Don't think we'll get that.

632
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,839
There is a competing PLO series over in Europe. At

633
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,799
me right now, let's go to see some players.

634
00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I look through the chip couns because

635
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,119
they are doing updates on dot com, and uh, I

636
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:07,680
didn't recognize any names that I feel like would miss

637
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:08,720
this series.

638
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:10,039
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, I.

639
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: Mean maybe there's a couple in there that I missed.

640
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960
I I did a quick glance last night. Where the

641
00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:16,240
where where are the updates dot com?

642
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

643
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: Like they it's called like the ten K Championship or whatever.

644
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:26,599
Speaker 2: That Grand Slam Malta. Yeah, undress, No, he hasn't played here.

645
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: He hasn't played here. M on. No, I mean there's

646
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,200
names I recognized, but there's there's no no one that

647
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,680
I've I would know, is.

648
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,039
Speaker 2: No regular for the P So I.

649
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: Agree, I didn't see I didn't see Latar Guerre, I

650
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,279
didn't see Yoni. You can mine like you know.

651
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:47,359
Speaker 2: I expect all those guys to be playing this Ye.

652
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,839
Speaker 1: No, I know, but I'm saying like I could have

653
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:52,200
saw them because that that is also that's pretty time,

654
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:56,119
pretty well, that's timed pretty well coming off of EPT Malta.

655
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:58,839
So it's you know for some big PLO players, some

656
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,440
big players in general. That's there's a decent little swing

657
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:05,599
between EPT Malta. A lot of high buying stuff there,

658
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,799
and then obviously this Grand Slam series.

659
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,039
Speaker 2: People I see here that you no have this three people.

660
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:13,599
I say on the butto of the player, because I

661
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,799
me Yankov, He's played a lot of events. Leonard Yanovski,

662
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:20,880
he played the last series. That was his first time.

663
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:23,720
Robert Cohen hasn't been here for a little while, but

664
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:25,279
we talked during the summer. I tried to be like,

665
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,519
can you come back, and he's like, just hasn't tied

666
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,240
well in the recent years. So he said, I'm going

667
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:32,119
to try this, yere, but I can't promise any thing.

668
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,240
So if we can get those three, you know, maybe

669
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,839
they'll make a run for the second half of the

670
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:37,880
week when the Bayans kick up a little bit.

671
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they make a run for the second half

672
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:42,160
of the week. Maybe they do the second half plus

673
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,200
Super High roll Little PLO, you know, something like that.

674
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,759
That would be great to see. Speaking of Super High Rollerball, yeah,

675
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:51,640
I mean that's gonna be a big event too, Yes

676
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,640
it is. Once again, butting right up to everything, I mean,

677
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,720
do you expect a big turnout there? Like, what what

678
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,119
do you expect? Super High Rollable PLO.

679
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: First year Jared Bosnik top to thirty eight entrant field.

680
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,160
The following year we made some changes, including day two

681
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,279
entry slash re entry. We had set Davies topping forty

682
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:16,200
two entrants, so I would like to at least beat

683
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,079
forty two. I think forty five is a good number

684
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:20,839
to aim for. Don't want to get too carried away,

685
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,119
so let's get eighty. I know a couple of players

686
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,359
not attending. So there's a couple of entrants.

687
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,319
Speaker 1: Who who is not Who do we have to yell at?

688
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:36,319
Speaker 2: Eljefe himself? Carry Katz's not attending? God, Brent Kenny not attending.

689
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,519
Speaker 1: Could you imagine not attending your own tour?

690
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,319
Speaker 2: He has something, it's busy. It's his words.

691
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,559
Speaker 1: Like I said, could you imagine not attending your own tour,

692
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,880
especially when you need points? He does need especially when

693
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,759
you need points.

694
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: Those who are not attending, and you know they have

695
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,480
played every year. So that's two entries gone back. Look,

696
00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:59,720
it's been trending up, Pelow in general around the world

697
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,400
trending up. So let's hope we get you know, the

698
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,680
same field plus a few new entrants. We got some

699
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:11,079
maybe some new people traveling variance falls our way. You know,

700
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,319
if you know in the way of re entries, et cetera.

701
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:16,759
Hopefully the satellite. You know, the previous years, the satellite

702
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:19,920
is yielded to two seats each time, so maybe this

703
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,519
year we can get that to three. Let's see how

704
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that goes. But yeah, it's going to be a good event,

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biggest buying PLO event in the world along. I mean,

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it's shared, they're buying shared with people. But we were

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's smart Lewis Spence.

755
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: Well, at least you can drop him. Then Bob's current teams.

756
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,400
So Tim and I did a draft of five players

757
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,320
each to start the second half of the PGT season.

758
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,719
After every season we do a little kind of weird

759
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,719
like you can drop one player, add one you got

760
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,400
a lock too, then you can possibly switch with someone

761
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,280
on the other team. PhD points are the scoring. My

762
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,760
team right now is Jeremy Osmons, Jeremy Becker, Nick Shulman,

763
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,039
Sam Laskowitz, and Andrew Lichtenberger. Yeah, you have China reemsams overall,

764
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:22,960
John Reard and Michael Burke and Lewis Spencer.

765
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: Did Michael Burke do with the pokemosis? He's letting me? Damn?

766
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:29,119
Speaker 1: He didn't play like the second half of it. I

767
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:31,159
have eleven hundred and forty five points. You have seven

768
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,679
hundred and thirty seven. So I'm up a bit there.

769
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,239
All right, I'm up four hundred and whatever, four oh

770
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,920
seven to four eight. We got to drop one and

771
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,719
add one, and you're obviously behind, so you can go first,

772
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,920
drop one together. Okay, you're dropping Lowis Spencer. Who are

773
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,480
you adding?

774
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,519
Speaker 2: I have a lot of names to choose from. I

775
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:53,320
have some intel, Oh god, intel no text message.

776
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means, but okay, I.

777
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:57,519
Speaker 2: Means I got tall. Someone's on their way here, So

778
00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:58,719
I'm gonna take that person.

779
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: The name better be phil Ivey.

780
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,079
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, it was going to be a player

781
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,719
that was in the satellite. Okay, but I'm not going

782
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,599
to take him. Okay, taking Michael juwek Oh, Mickey Dueck, Yeah,

783
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:13,760
taking Michael Duk.

784
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:16,079
Speaker 1: So you're dropping Spencer.

785
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:18,679
Speaker 2: You get out of here, Louis Spencer. You have fake

786
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,840
one day trip to Las Vegas. Fooled me, you bluffed me.

787
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:22,840
I need to find.

788
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: And Mickey duek okay, I'm going to.

789
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,039
Speaker 2: You have an easy jump thom See.

790
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:37,079
Speaker 1: I don't know if I do I have. It's between

791
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:42,440
two people. I'm going to drop Sam Lasquez.

792
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: We have both talked to Becca because that was the

793
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,239
other person I think about him. I literally talked to

794
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,320
him the other day, but he was like, may I

795
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,599
may my, maybe I'll come Like, I don't think you're

796
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:55,360
going to get a single buying Adelasquez. You may get

797
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,400
one bullet out of Becker.

798
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:58,159
Speaker 1: I only I am going to get any out of Becker

799
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,159
but for the vibe because he gives me ship every time.

800
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: But he gives me ship.

801
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: If not, jam Me, I am not dropping you for

802
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,840
p l O. Please show up for the three five case.

803
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,159
Please come on. It's it's four cards. If you need

804
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:12,199
a crash course, it's not that difficult. I'm telling you.

805
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,559
These people play this game off.

806
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:15,159
Speaker 2: But they also getting for an APT.

807
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, but Lasko, it's Fran but we're gonna do

808
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,599
another drop another drop ad before an APT, so it's fine.

809
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,239
So I can always add last back maybe unless you

810
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,679
know you you do it. This one I think is

811
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,199
gonna be a little bit of a gamble.

812
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: I like that.

813
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,039
Speaker 1: Actually it's not. I have to just I'm gonna have

814
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:36,440
to take Alex Fox. I have to take Alex Fox. Sure,

815
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:39,000
I was thinking about taking somebody else.

816
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:43,159
Speaker 2: But here are you thinking? Because I'll tell you, Michael Wang, Oh,

817
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,840
I was never on my list. Here were the people

818
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,400
on my list? Yea, Dylan Weisman, right, because you're going

819
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,880
to get you got to think about the hundred k

820
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,480
and the two to twenty five case, right, Dylan.

821
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:53,159
Speaker 1: Alex Fox?

822
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I think Actually Alex fants to fine

823
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,840
U n you know Ronks you got uh Josh. I

824
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,159
was one who I was leaning towards for a little while,

825
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,440
and I was like, Grando's back, But is he back?

826
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:08,960
You know what I mean? I couldn't tell you so,

827
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:11,079
like I I he was on the very he was

828
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,440
on the fire and is he back?

829
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, has he been sitting on the

830
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,559
sidelines for too much? I don't know. Man, you know

831
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,239
it's hard, all right, you gotta lock two players and

832
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,159
then I'll lock to I.

833
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: Don't need to lock the guy. I dropped right away.

834
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,639
Speaker 1: No, No, Mickey Dueg and Alex Oxen are not involved

835
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:31,599
in this next part of this.

836
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:38,159
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm gonna lock definitely. Okay, this is a gamble.

837
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,119
He did just wait, Tom Bracelet right.

838
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: I think so?

839
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: Maybe you think so?

840
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,159
Speaker 1: I mean if my list is correct with who the

841
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,679
names are, then yes, I feel like.

842
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,039
Speaker 2: You order it is more likely to play the one

843
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:55,800
hundred k than Chino would be. Right. So I'm gonna

844
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,840
lock King John.

845
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I I am locking. We know you're looking Osmas

846
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,559
and Shulman. All right, so if you want to switch,

847
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:06,800
you can switch with one of mine.

848
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: I can switch any player.

849
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:12,639
Speaker 1: No, you can. You can either take Jeremie Becker or

850
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:17,119
Andrew Lichtemburger and give me either China Ream or Michael Burke.

851
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: I'll give you back, and I'll take Lucky CHOWI.

852
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,679
Speaker 1: Give you Burke and I'll This is so annoying.

853
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I have to because Lucky che At least

854
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,199
plays some PLO.

855
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:29,679
Speaker 1: I understand.

856
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: I don't think bucks see this is the whole switch

857
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,760
thing is kind of I think, kind of silly, though,

858
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,119
I don't know we should do the switch thing.

859
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:37,199
Speaker 1: No, it's great because.

860
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,079
Speaker 2: It's because you should just do the same thing back. Yea,

861
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:41,719
but see what you know what?

862
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,599
Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to I mean, I'm Max Gamble

863
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,400
with j Becks on my team, Max Gamble. I should

864
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,519
switch Jamie Becker for China. I should. I hope the

865
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:56,639
dear god Jeremy is listening to this movie. I hope, Jeremy.

866
00:40:57,679 --> 00:40:59,920
This is the dumbest thing I've ever done in fantasy.

867
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:01,639
Speaker 2: This is my chance.

868
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,119
Speaker 1: You better make it fucking count. But you better make

869
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,440
it count, all right. So that's what we got. The

870
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,400
new teams entering the PGT PLO series and Super High

871
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,239
Rollable PLO are. I have Jeremy Osmas, Jeremy Becker, Nick Shulman, UH,

872
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:20,679
Michael Burke, and I added Alex foxon UH, Tim has

873
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,719
Chin o'reem Sam's over, John Riard and Andrew Lichtenberger, and

874
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,079
he added Mickey Dueck. Tim's team for this series is

875
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:29,599
way better than my team. But it doesn't matter because

876
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:32,159
I got the big guns. I got Ozma's, I got Shulman,

877
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,159
I got Alex Fox.

878
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: Do you have a great team heading into n apt though?

879
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:36,360
I have?

880
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: I have stars and scrubs af.

881
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Wow, you just called it. Jeremy Becker a scrub.

882
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: When it relates to PLO yes, okay on the grand

883
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,199
scheme of things, no, But as it relates to PLO

884
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,760
yes okay. All right, So that's that. That gets the

885
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,039
PGT fantasy out of the way. As always, if you

886
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:55,880
guys have any comments on on our fantasy teams, let

887
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,280
us have it. Podcast at pokerro dot com is the email.

888
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,360
You can also hit us up on it Twitter.

889
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: Were inside of code word here? Yeah, go ahead, Yeah,

890
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,039
gonna be guys. You've got seventeen days until we draw

891
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,280
a winner to win the dream This is one of

892
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,079
those eight ways to get a dream system, one of

893
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:17,360
the eight ways. This is the pul podcast way to

894
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:21,719
represent us PGT dot com. You have already gone through this.

895
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,440
I'm not giving you any more the code word what's

896
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,199
a good number? How many tickets should we give away?

897
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:29,679
We've given away like thirty three, twenty five? Risis, we're

898
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:31,199
going big, We're gone real big. What do you want

899
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:31,320
to do?

900
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: Thirty five?

901
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: That's so funny because you know how I was going

902
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,239
to make the code word name Becker Good.

903
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly why I picked thirty. His favorite hand is

904
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,320
three five.

905
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So you use the code word Becker b

906
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,719
e c. Okay, thirty five tickets in the jow the

907
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,800
most we've given away. That's a lot of tickets.

908
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

909
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: And you could represent the proper podcast in the PGT

910
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,440
million doll the championship.

911
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: I've said there you go, moving on, done with all

912
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,840
the PGT talk. We're gonna switch it over to the WPT.

913
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:06,280
We're gonna talk about Shooting Star because it is back.

914
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,440
They brought it back back to Bay one oh one.

915
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,000
It is a fifty three hundred dollars championship event that

916
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,119
runs well. The championship event itself runs October twenty fourth

917
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,360
through twenty eighth. They are doing one of those weird

918
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,400
things where the final table is in Las Vegas. It's

919
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,159
gonna be either did I until I looked it up.

920
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:24,559
I find the whole final table in Las Vegas. Think silly? Okay,

921
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:27,760
And when it happened, I happened to be working for

922
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,159
the WPT. I told them it was silly at the time.

923
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,840
I still think it's silly. I mean, I know why

924
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,920
they do it. Saves a lot of money to do

925
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,159
it that way. In my opinion, you should be giving

926
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:40,199
a lot more money back then to the WPT. To

927
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,199
the players in in one way, shape or form if

928
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:44,480
you're saving that much money. The one part that I

929
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:46,079
found was a little bit weird with it is if

930
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:48,840
you win that event, you get a seat to the

931
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,079
WPT World Championship. But that final table takes place on

932
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:56,760
December nineteenth, which is after the wt World Championship closes

933
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,760
the registration, so it must.

934
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: Be for next year. But yeah, that makes sense. Yeah,

935
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:03,880
but still that's like a little silly.

936
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,559
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want wouldn't you want all the WPT champions

937
00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:11,840
from this season in the WPT Championship event at the win?

938
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: Yes?

939
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,599
Speaker 1: Correct, I agree. I also thought this event was wasn't

940
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:18,719
a seventy five hundred back in the day. Wasn't like

941
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,039
a weird price point like that, because I think that

942
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:23,719
was part of the bounty thing. Look look at that

943
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,639
part of the look I went once, it's it's funny

944
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:30,800
because it has it'll be interesting to see what it's

945
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,880
like this year. You know, it's obviously being gone for

946
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,519
a little while. Now it's back. But Bay one to

947
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,159
one it was always one of those events where if

948
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:41,760
you watched it on the old WPT broadcast, you saw

949
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,440
and I'm about to talk about if you've ever been there,

950
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:46,760
you know what I'm talking about, where they're legit, dozens

951
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,039
and dozens of fans like around the tournament area. Many

952
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,440
of them have like binders of photos that they want

953
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,719
you to sign, like it's it's pretty crazy, Like you

954
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,519
don't see that anywhere, And it was apparent, you know,

955
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,559
I saw it on the broadcast many times. I've seen

956
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:02,559
you until media and whatnot. I was there once and

957
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,239
I saw it.

958
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: So it was a last one was seventy five hundred,

959
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,000
but it has also been ten k as well.

960
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:11,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so just that the fifty three hundred price

961
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,440
point was a little bit. I thought it was different, right,

962
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:16,400
and it is different. Yeah, So but that that's fine whatever.

963
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,079
Fifty three hundred is still pretty hefty buying in today's world.

964
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,960
So all good there, All right, So I was able

965
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:25,719
to put together who I think is the full list

966
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,440
of shooting stars. Now maybe I missed some, but let's

967
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,159
let's hit on this list because I know that there's

968
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:36,119
a lot that was always made of like people who

969
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:39,360
got invited to the National Heads Up Poker Championship. Is

970
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,440
there like the same I haven't seen it out there?

971
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,760
Is there a lot of complaining about this too, like

972
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,719
you didn't get invited as a shooting Star. I haven't

973
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,480
seen it personally.

974
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: I no, I don't know. I haven't seen much. You know,

975
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:53,199
you look at the list, you're going to go through.

976
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,239
It stars is going to be an in better commas.

977
00:45:57,079 --> 00:46:01,239
But I don't think you. I think they're like funding

978
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,440
these buyings, right.

979
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I won't get into that. I've heard various things.

980
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 2: I think they.

981
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: That I have not heard anyone like getting a full

982
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:13,800
buy that could I mean there could be people like that,

983
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:16,679
you know, I just haven't heard that. It's it's a

984
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:19,480
different offer, is what I've heard. But I mean you

985
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,400
do get compensated in one way, shape or form.

986
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:23,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to assume a lot of these guys

987
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,760
seem to be stars, but I'm going to buy in themselves,

988
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,519
and maybe they're getting like some hotel rooms.

989
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: My first thought was this is wouldn't it be simple

990
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:37,639
and also a perfect brand tie in that the Shooting

991
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,559
Stars are all WPT champions?

992
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:39,679
Speaker 2: Ye?

993
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: Like that's why wouldn't that just be it?

994
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:43,199
Speaker 2: Like?

995
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,679
Speaker 1: So then you reach out to all the champions, you say, hey,

996
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:48,239
you can come out here, here's the offer whatever, and

997
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,360
then you're trying to shoot a star and you're trying to,

998
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,760
you know, take a bounty on a WPT champ. I

999
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,239
think that that is a very nice brand, Mesh. Yes,

1000
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:01,400
let me read these names. Lonnie Huey, Angelo Jordison, Ari

1001
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:05,199
Engele Blair, Henkle, Cherish Andrews, Jared Jaffy, Jeff Mattson, Nick Rigby,

1002
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,000
Ronnie Bartos, Stephen Song, Turbo Win, Victoria liftsh It's China Raim,

1003
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:13,119
Chris Mormon, Esther Taylor, Jamie cursed Ter, Jesse, Lonis, Kathy Liebert,

1004
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:17,599
Mike Madison, Noah Schwartz, Toby Lewis, Tony as Loony and

1005
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,079
he won. I think like the they had like a

1006
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:25,360
qualifier tournament, not the shooting stars, but like the rising stars.

1007
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,239
I think he might have won that to get in.

1008
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,679
Tyler Patterson, James Carroll, Jeff Platt, David, Odi B. Baker,

1009
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,960
schwanlu Kenna, James, David Williams, Matt Salzburg, for Oz, Jocko,

1010
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,400
Shannon Shore, Adam Hendrix, Greig Mueller, Nicky Limo, Lily Coletto,

1011
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Eric Linger and Kitty Quo, Chance Corneth, Frankie Kucciara Aka

1012
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:45,760
Frankie c Reniah, Nezradine, Jesse Yagaum Jose Canseco, Darren Olias,

1013
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:49,599
Tony Dunce, and Scott Stewart. Oh and Phil Helmyth was

1014
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:50,400
on my next page.

1015
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,679
Speaker 2: Can thirteen champs?

1016
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that.

1017
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,599
Speaker 2: Whatever, Well, I think that's alas good that there's at

1018
00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:58,719
least thirteen so champions.

1019
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: Initially I saw the list and now, listen, I had

1020
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,199
to go through like multiple Instagram posts to like put

1021
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,719
this list together. So if who I'm about to see

1022
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:10,920
is a shooting star and I missed it, forgive me,

1023
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,920
don't kill me. But first thing that jumps out, where's

1024
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,360
fal Ivey?

1025
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:15,519
Speaker 2: Okay?

1026
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:19,039
Speaker 1: One, he's a WPT champion? Great Two? Isn't he an ambassador?

1027
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:22,599
Speaker 2: He's a Yeah club Doug Polk? Where's Doug Polk? Now?

1028
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:25,599
Speaker 1: Of course this could Now this is like when when

1029
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,159
people said to us about national heads up, you know,

1030
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,519
where's Ivy, where's Helmuth, where's Negron?

1031
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:31,679
Speaker 2: You?

1032
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,119
Speaker 1: And you know scheduling conflicts whatnot, like like they could

1033
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:36,599
have certainly been like, hey, Phil, are you available? And

1034
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:39,239
he's like no, I can't, like we don't know all

1035
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,599
that information. But initially I say I don't see Falivey.

1036
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:44,199
I don't see Doug Polk, I don't see Brad Owen,

1037
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:48,079
I don't see Rampage, I don't see Wolfgang. All of them,

1038
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,039
all of them are ambassadors for WPT in one way

1039
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:54,239
shape for maybe it's a Club t Gold, maybe it's

1040
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,599
WPT Global, whatever it is, and I think that those

1041
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:57,519
would be big draws.

1042
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:00,280
Speaker 2: It could be a marketing strategy that could be holding

1043
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,559
these guys until, like say, the week leading into it,

1044
00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:03,840
to really create some more bucks.

1045
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,039
Speaker 1: Okay, what I'll say to that is sorry to cut

1046
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:09,000
you off. But the last Instagram post that I saw

1047
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,480
was like this rounds out like the Shooting Stars, So

1048
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:13,679
it would tell me that it's done.

1049
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,039
Speaker 2: Got it again?

1050
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I missed these people in a post somewhere.

1051
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they're on there, but maybe they were part of

1052
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,920
the original announcement. These ambassadors will be there, maybe stars

1053
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,400
to be announced. I don't know, but yeah, you would

1054
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,199
expect at least four of those five names to be

1055
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,840
locks to play. Obviously Ivy contradict, but like, I don't

1056
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,599
see why. You know, Paul can Owen, you know that

1057
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:42,119
would be there. Obviously, Rampage and Wolfgang same thing. So yeah.

1058
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just like Gus. I'm just surprised to

1059
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:47,239
see that. I like having a nickery being there. I

1060
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,840
think that that's that's pretty great, you know. I do

1061
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,079
think so Scott Stewart is in there, so there is

1062
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:55,920
a name you're missing. I think I like having Scott

1063
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,599
Stewart in there. Obviously won the WG World Championship last

1064
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:04,519
a seven. Now what about Elliott Hudon who won the

1065
00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:06,960
the first year, Like I would like to see him

1066
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,360
in there too.

1067
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,079
Speaker 2: You know.

1068
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: Again, maybe they reach out to some of these people.

1069
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,360
Maybe they're in there, maybe they're not. Who are you

1070
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,760
looking for? Just tell me the final table, the main,

1071
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,719
the final table, the main?

1072
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:22,039
Speaker 2: What year this year? No? Jared Jared mc guinea, Yeah,

1073
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:25,119
didn't because when he won his Bahamas seat, he said

1074
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,800
I'm not going. And then I swore I saw something

1075
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,000
on Twitter where it's like, okay.

1076
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: It was like I'm not going I'm going to wpt

1077
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:30,880
here yet.

1078
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: But then I saw they I swear I saw something

1079
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,760
where they announced him as a shooting style.

1080
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: See that's like that.

1081
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,159
Speaker 2: This is why I'm on the I wish I wish

1082
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:40,880
I could just go to find the list, you know,

1083
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,920
Shooting Stars dot Com, WPT slash Shooting Stars or something.

1084
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I could just go to WPT dot

1085
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,719
com and I wish I could just click, you.

1086
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: Know, the event, and it has already has them in

1087
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:52,679
the chip counts or something.

1088
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,639
Speaker 1: Maybe this is it. Jeff Platt, David Baker. Yeah, I'm

1089
00:50:56,639 --> 00:50:59,880
not going through all these there's all these different volumes.

1090
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:04,480
Bounty Spotlight volume one through it looks like ten on

1091
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,760
WPG dot com. That's a lot to go through.

1092
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:10,199
Speaker 2: WPT October six. He will henceforth be referred to as

1093
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,800
WPT guy, Jaredman, Jennie and the newest WPT shooting st Casino.

1094
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: He's in there.

1095
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: So but like, yes, all the graphics I'm looking out

1096
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,519
of the same ones. You know you've named it at Jared, I.

1097
00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:27,639
Speaker 1: Guess, I mean, I'm not adding it's just a talking point.

1098
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1099
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: I just thought it would be easier if you just

1100
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:32,039
had all the champions.

1101
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:34,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I guess, what's the goal of the

1102
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,599
shooting stuff do you want people to have?

1103
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have michaelmas Rocky on there, right, I didn't

1104
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,480
or did I know he's in there too? I believe

1105
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,440
I believe he was the first one announced. I'm I'm

1106
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:51,159
actually weirdly surprised not to see will Casoof.

1107
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,679
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one.

1108
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, obviously he's very polarizing.

1109
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: I get it.

1110
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:59,519
Speaker 1: But I mean, Savage has kind of been talking about how,

1111
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:04,639
you know, the the wil Casus stuff. He I think

1112
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:06,320
in Cyprus they were he was talking about how he

1113
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,760
had like a sit down with him, like all that

1114
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,280
sort of stuff, so I thought, you know, maybe he

1115
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,320
gets an invite then, right. Also, I think it's kind

1116
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,639
of in vain with like the new brand positioning of

1117
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,119
WPT in that they're kind of trying to stir the

1118
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:21,239
pot at times, and.

1119
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,119
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's gonna stir the pot much more

1120
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:26,480
than then We'll miss Brian Altman.

1121
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: He's he's a crusher.

1122
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 2: Fweur time Champ, right, three time Champ.

1123
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: I think it's three, it's two or three. I mean

1124
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,599
obviously the biggest one with six out is phil Ivey,

1125
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:38,840
like I just thought he would be. I thought he

1126
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,400
would almost be announced as number one. It should, I mean,

1127
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,920
but again, maybe he has, you know, prior commitments or whatever.

1128
00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:48,920
I'm sure we'll we'll hear about it that we're talking

1129
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,679
about it also on this you know, the the final

1130
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,400
table being moved to Las Vegas in December. Getting back

1131
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,159
to my point about like if anyone's ever been there,

1132
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,719
they know the atmosphere of this event. I think you

1133
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,079
really miss out on that moving it out of Bay

1134
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:06,599
one on one and putting it in Vegas.

1135
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: Does that mean you the skip playing the main event? Yeah,

1136
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:13,360
in Vegas it's fold day five.

1137
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: No, because the WPT World Championship here goes like whatever

1138
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,719
till the nineteenth, and then.

1139
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: There's not day day five.

1140
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean whatever, they'll I'm sure they'll make some

1141
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:27,800
sort of accommodation here, it's obviously, and then that final

1142
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,119
table plays out on the twenty first, so I think

1143
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,400
I think we'll be okay there. But yeah, I just

1144
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,119
that atmosphere there at Bay one on one was always

1145
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:39,320
one of the coolest, most electric atmospheres in any poker

1146
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,320
tournament not named the WSP main event, So, you know,

1147
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,480
removing it from that area I think is a little

1148
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,920
bit of a knock. But I am excited to see

1149
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:50,679
WPT Shooting Star back. It's it's one of my favorites.

1150
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,599
I do think wish that we would get you know,

1151
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,960
LAPC back, Blagio five, diamondback. I want those those marquee

1152
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:00,199
wpts to come back. I don't know if they ever will.

1153
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,320
Maybe this is a sign of first ones to come,

1154
00:54:03,559 --> 00:54:08,440
you know, but we'll see. And then, speaking of big

1155
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:13,239
marquee poker tournaments, WSP Europe just wrapped up. Okay, So,

1156
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,880
and I know why you're saying that, and I know

1157
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,079
why you're laughing. And I've I had many messages come

1158
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,199
my way saying like, hey, did you know what WSP

1159
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:27,440
Europe was happening. I think I've said this many times

1160
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:31,840
on this podcast or wherever, but I feel like I'm

1161
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,559
as tapped in as anyone in the industry. I was

1162
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:37,840
not aware WSP Europe was happening until I saw on

1163
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,199
social media that Martin Cabrell want to brace it, and

1164
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,039
that was like events into the schedule. I had no idea.

1165
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 2: I knew it was on. I just didn't really didn't

1166
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,480
care because I was following it from the start.

1167
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: But I mean, so that is that a problem.

1168
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:54,679
Speaker 2: Now.

1169
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,519
Speaker 1: Let me say first is that I don't really think

1170
00:54:58,039 --> 00:54:59,760
numbers looked that down.

1171
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: Now.

1172
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: I looked at some of the numbers, they looked like

1173
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,679
they were all right, overall. Now the main event, it

1174
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,800
was eight seventeen in twenty twenty three, then it was

1175
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,599
seven sixty eight last year, and then this year was

1176
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:12,760
six fifty nine last year to this year. That's a

1177
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,079
fourteen percent decrease. So and also that trend of you know,

1178
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,880
dropping for two consecutive years. So yeah, I don't know,

1179
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:20,639
it's just.

1180
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:22,559
Speaker 2: To me.

1181
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,119
Speaker 1: WSP Europe was like it was the w s AP,

1182
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:31,320
but it was like an ultra luxurious, high end model

1183
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,719
of the WSP. It was in a super high end location.

1184
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:39,480
You know, London was expensive to go to. They had

1185
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:41,760
it in can that was incredible, like you know, all

1186
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,599
that sort of stuff. The euro or the pound compared

1187
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:47,320
to the dollar made everything bigger. Like I don't know,

1188
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,320
it was just more luxurious, it was sexier. It was

1189
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,360
it was the designer brand WSP. And now I just

1190
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,960
I can't help but think in a lot of ways

1191
00:55:58,039 --> 00:56:02,400
it's an afterthought and I I hate it because I

1192
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:05,480
love the doubis B Europe. I think it's so cool. Right,

1193
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:08,400
all that's happened with ws A P Europe this year.

1194
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:10,239
It also came with the fact that they are moving

1195
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,320
it next year. Yeah, moving two things, one location, two timeframe.

1196
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,239
They're going to be moving it from King's Casino and

1197
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,239
Rozudov to the Hilton Prague, which Prague is incredible to

1198
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,719
go to if you've been there for a poker tournament.

1199
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,559
But it is taking place March thirty first through April twelfth.

1200
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,039
I mean, you're the guy that you understand tournament schedules.

1201
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:33,679
I don't think better than anyone, So like, how do

1202
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:34,480
you feel about that time?

1203
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: So it's really bad?

1204
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I will trust you. I initially saw

1205
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:43,760
that one. It's basically right on top of the Irish

1206
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,239
Poker Open, yeah, which is a very popular now it

1207
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,400
doesn't have the big big buy ins like w B

1208
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,519
Europe does, but still very very popular. That runs March

1209
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:55,039
twenty six through April sixth isn't this also right around seminal? Like,

1210
00:56:55,119 --> 00:56:56,039
isn't there a seminal event?

1211
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:58,519
Speaker 2: There's a few events. Okay. First thing we have to

1212
00:56:58,679 --> 00:57:00,719
discuss is that, you know, I've never been to the

1213
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,159
Hilton Prague. You might be a very popular place, so

1214
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,119
convention space. This may be the only window they have.

1215
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,639
So if that is the case and so true, let's

1216
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:11,519
pretend it is not the only window they have going

1217
00:57:11,559 --> 00:57:15,480
against the Irish Poke re Open is bad, especially if

1218
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,840
you're in a competing country right or continent right Europe. Now,

1219
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:24,159
if let's say the ASI millions will probably discuss what's

1220
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:26,679
happening and you went over the top of that, that's fine.

1221
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,239
You know, Australia Europe. Twenty four hour flight doesn't really

1222
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,400
matter the fact that you were a couple hours difference

1223
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:35,760
from a fly and you're really forcing people that live

1224
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,559
in Spain, England, Ireland everywhere in Europe to make a

1225
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:42,360
decision between you know, Irish Poke re Open, which is

1226
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,079
a very popular spot popular stop sorry, and WSP Europe

1227
00:57:47,159 --> 00:57:48,960
is pretty tough. Now, what I will say is that

1228
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:53,159
looking at the schedules, it is likely that the WSP

1229
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,920
Europe Main event will start at the very tail end

1230
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,840
of Irish Poke Reperence, so meaning you can go play

1231
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,679
the Irish pokeer Open main event and then you can

1232
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:04,639
also play the WSP Europe Main Event, but that means

1233
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:07,840
you missed the first week of side events because they overlap. Here.

1234
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,280
For Americans, it's likely to be pretty safe that you

1235
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,400
can go to both Irish Poker Open is at this

1236
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,079
stage going to overlap a little bit of our plo series.

1237
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:19,280
That's fine. WSP Europe probably going to overlap a little

1238
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,960
bit of our US Poker Open. But for players, you know,

1239
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,239
it's expensive to play poker, so you're gonna have to

1240
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,559
make a choice whether you want to go WSP Europe

1241
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,920
because if you are American, like I said, you have

1242
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,800
a PLO series. If you're a Pelo player, you have

1243
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,119
our Usbro but something more affordable that kind of fits

1244
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:39,199
more with what WSP Europe do will do. Schedule wise,

1245
00:58:40,039 --> 00:58:43,119
you have Seminal Hard Rock Poker Showdown. That main event

1246
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:45,400
starts April twenty fourth. You touched on kind of the

1247
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:49,199
dates for that. The Bourgade Spring Open and Why these

1248
00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:52,920
guys Always like to Battle is another podcast for another

1249
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,760
day that overlaps the Seminal Hard Rock as well. That

1250
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,320
starts April twenty second. And if you're Australian, you know,

1251
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,519
Australians don't really travel that much anymore. But Buzzimillions coming

1252
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:05,840
back April twenty fourth, so there is a lot of

1253
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,280
stuff going on. You know, you got the Double Clash

1254
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,239
in Europe, you got the Double Clash Triple Clash kind

1255
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,760
of if you consider us too here in the USA,

1256
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,639
so it's really tough and like you could definitely if

1257
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:21,280
they had a lot more availability. You know what would

1258
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,800
have made sense to me. You just move WSP Europe

1259
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:30,519
a few weeks earlier, start of March. You can immediately

1260
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:35,559
follow EPT Paris and then you can lead You've got one, two,

1261
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,599
three to three in a bit weeks to run WSP Europe.

1262
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,920
Then you can go into the Irish Poke group. And

1263
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,039
then you don't jeopardize any field sizes. You don't force

1264
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:50,440
players to pick or choose. You're gonna have players come

1265
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:53,880
to Europe right and think about it. You know it's

1266
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,519
going to be if you're from the East coast something

1267
00:59:55,519 --> 00:59:58,199
it's cold. You get to go to Paris in February

1268
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,559
March and then you can go to Prague and then

1269
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:02,159
you can go to Ireland. That seems like a pretty

1270
01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:04,679
fun trip. So if they had moved it a month earlier,

1271
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,519
it would have been perfect. It would also been during

1272
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:10,079
the American spring break, which is you know, if you

1273
01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:11,840
think if you're if you've got a family, you may

1274
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,960
take them a little trip to Prague. Not a bad

1275
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,599
idea too. So yeah, I hate the time slot. I'm

1276
01:00:16,639 --> 01:00:18,480
assuming though, I'm going to say it right now, numbers

1277
01:00:18,519 --> 01:00:21,440
will go up because I think you because people can

1278
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,480
play both the Irish proc ope at Maine and the

1279
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:27,880
WSP Europe main most likely that should be fine. New

1280
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,079
location is always going to be a trend up. Nothing

1281
01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:34,840
super heavy competing with it here in America, but yes,

1282
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,559
if you've got a limit a bankroll, you're going to

1283
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:37,639
really have to pick or truths.

1284
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:41,039
Speaker 1: I used to love when I want to say it

1285
01:00:41,199 --> 01:00:48,119
was EPT London, then WSP Europe, then EPT Monte Carlo.

1286
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,559
We're like literally back to back to back, and you

1287
01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:53,840
could you just traveled them like I would go for

1288
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,360
Poke News and we would just go to all of

1289
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,039
them like it was and maybe it was maybe it

1290
01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:01,719
was EBTC and Remo, then WSP Europe, than Manco, whatever

1291
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,920
it was. It was like three three basically in a row.

1292
01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:07,840
And you know, I think I think tours should look

1293
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,800
to do that more often. And that doesn't necessarily mean

1294
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,519
that they need to be talking to one another, but

1295
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:14,480
seeing when stuff is on the schedule and then butting

1296
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:16,159
up against it, which I think we're seeing now with

1297
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,400
that that PLO series in Malta, you know, right on

1298
01:01:19,519 --> 01:01:22,400
the tail end, butting up against EPT Malta, right, So

1299
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,840
you're very likely going to have some carryover, so I

1300
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,719
would like to see that with with some of these

1301
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,559
big series like this. I do think it's going to

1302
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:33,679
go up in attendance because I think Prague is going

1303
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,599
to be a better place to draw players. You know,

1304
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,280
we've just heard that roz would Off is a chore

1305
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,159
to get to and people don't want to go there,

1306
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,440
so I would imagine they want to go to Prague.

1307
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,800
I guess my one question coming out of this change

1308
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,880
in time is, so what's going to happen in the

1309
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,280
second half of the year. Are we going to run

1310
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,920
back another w SP Europe? Is it going to go

1311
01:01:56,039 --> 01:01:58,760
somewhere else, you know, like because remember they had w

1312
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,199
SP Europe and WSP Asia Pacific you know, on either

1313
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,519
side of the WSP in the summer, like you know,

1314
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:07,199
now we have Paradise. So are are we going to

1315
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:09,400
have something or is it just going to be you know,

1316
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:13,760
springtime WSP Europe then the summer WSP. Then we're just

1317
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,280
gonna have to wait till December for WSP Paradise or

1318
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,920
is there going to be something in between WISP and Vegas.

1319
01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: And WSB Paradise. You want to hear it first.

1320
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: I want to hear it first.

1321
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:29,159
Speaker 2: WSP macaw baby, Are you serious? Yes, Okay, I feel

1322
01:02:29,239 --> 01:02:32,000
like this move is perfect. I mean, if it is

1323
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:37,000
a macaw like not a thing in poker anymore. Fine, WSP, JJU,

1324
01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:44,679
WSP Japan, WSP Asia Pacific. You know, obviously JJU is

1325
01:02:44,719 --> 01:02:47,119
a spot that you know, a lot of the high

1326
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:49,840
rollers around the world, Americans Europeans have been before to

1327
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,480
play TRENT events. Obviously WSP have a partnership with Tridon.

1328
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:56,320
I could definitely see, you know, if you look at

1329
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,800
the September October schedule, the big event you obviously have

1330
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,440
is you have trying one into try and jdrew which

1331
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,079
is early September. Why couldn't you run trading jjrew straightened

1332
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:10,800
a WSP, you know, WSP Asia, whatever they want to

1333
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,320
call it, WSP JJRE or that Try and Stop is

1334
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,920
now has WSP events in it. So it's kind of

1335
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,199
like the opposite to Paradise, where there's a few trying

1336
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,039
events you kind of flip it, right, that's the deal,

1337
01:03:25,079 --> 01:03:27,679
where so tryon is running and you have say three

1338
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,599
or four WSB Bracelet events, you know some of that.

1339
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,000
So I could see that definitely happening. You know, I've

1340
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,840
talked to people a WSP and we've kind of heard

1341
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,199
down the grapevine that you know, they want to expand

1342
01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:41,559
they want to do more stops. So this, to me

1343
01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:44,000
would make a lot of sense to more stops. Can

1344
01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:46,440
you do? Man? You can do one every month easily.

1345
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:48,960
Like the circuit. You have the circuit.

1346
01:03:49,559 --> 01:03:53,159
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean is that the circuit is running.

1347
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,079
Like sometimes there's multiple circuit events happening at the same time.

1348
01:03:56,159 --> 01:03:58,880
And like right now even on WSP dot com here

1349
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,719
in the States, they have their Bracelet series, and they

1350
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,320
have a circuit series, and they have what's called the

1351
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,239
online Championships all running simultaneously. I look in the lobby,

1352
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,960
I have no idea what's going on. Half the time,

1353
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,840
just just click enter and I mean basically I do.

1354
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:15,039
But it's like it's just it's just a lot, you know.

1355
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:17,280
It's like, can't we space all this out?

1356
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:17,639
Speaker 2: You know?

1357
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: I just don't.

1358
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,519
Speaker 2: I don't think they you know, need to, you know,

1359
01:04:22,679 --> 01:04:26,400
like if it just like we had that conversation today

1360
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,599
about you know, winn and Venetian and everything that happens

1361
01:04:28,639 --> 01:04:30,719
in Vegas, and there's there's stuff for us to choose

1362
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:32,480
all the time. We can go to South Point, we

1363
01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:34,440
can go to the Horseshoe, we go wherever you want

1364
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,039
to play poker and get your fix. It's kind of

1365
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:37,400
up to you what you want to play or what

1366
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,280
place you like. And just because the WSP brand, I

1367
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,159
don't see why they can't do something similar and have

1368
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:48,039
you know at that those price points offer more and more. Now,

1369
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,400
if you're Sean Deep, yes you may be the guy

1370
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,000
that goes to all of them to bring those that

1371
01:04:54,119 --> 01:04:58,400
bracelet count up. But if you're a josh Aiah, for example,

1372
01:04:58,519 --> 01:05:01,519
you may just also be selective choose. I'm gonna choose Paradise.

1373
01:05:01,679 --> 01:05:03,800
I'm gonna choose WSP Vegas, and I'm good with that,

1374
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,480
you know, So it's it's still personal choice. You kind

1375
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,480
of offer the market, and the market will tell you

1376
01:05:09,519 --> 01:05:11,119
if there's a need there. Now, if they run try

1377
01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:13,480
and JJ and it bombs, then they go, okay, that

1378
01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:16,519
didn't work, kind of like Asia Pacific only the last

1379
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:20,800
two years. If you run WSP JJU and it crushes

1380
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,840
because everyone from Try and stays and more people come,

1381
01:05:24,639 --> 01:05:26,480
then you keep it like you don't know until the

1382
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:28,000
market is going to tell you when you run.

1383
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,559
Speaker 1: It yeah, I'm almost so interested if they ever go

1384
01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:33,920
to Brazil, you know, I think that that could be

1385
01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:38,760
massive for them. WSP Brazil, I think would be freaking enormous,

1386
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,079
And now I think you would.

1387
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:43,159
Speaker 2: Can you play j there? I think so you should

1388
01:05:43,239 --> 01:05:45,880
just yeah, you should run WSP wherever you can.

1389
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of wherever you can play GG. Yeah, I

1390
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,400
mean yeah, that's you know, it makes sense. But as

1391
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,119
part of the series the spup that just wrapped up,

1392
01:05:54,199 --> 01:05:59,559
we had Daniel Piden winning the SUP main Events one

1393
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:03,800
point four million euros, a former EBT Berlin winner in

1394
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,519
twenty thirteen. I think he's finished in the top ten

1395
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:09,400
of EBT Berlin two other times. In addition to that

1396
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,039
EPT Berlin win. So crusher there Sean Deep won the

1397
01:06:14,159 --> 01:06:17,679
twenty five KGG millions for his what's that eight that

1398
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,039
heat getting a little bit of flak from some people

1399
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:22,559
because it was only thirty eight thirty eight entries. Yeah,

1400
01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:23,039
but everyone.

1401
01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: People gave shit to Ivy for winning the uh the

1402
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,679
mixed event in Australia that had something like that too.

1403
01:06:28,719 --> 01:06:32,519
Speaker 1: You yeah, I mean whatever, but that's part that's part

1404
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:33,559
of it, I understand.

1405
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: You know.

1406
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: My stance is that you know, I know people say

1407
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:39,159
allline bracelets don't count. The only live ones count. These

1408
01:06:39,159 --> 01:06:41,559
don't count if they only have certain players. Whatever my

1409
01:06:41,719 --> 01:06:44,400
stance is and forever will be. If the operator says

1410
01:06:44,679 --> 01:06:46,039
that they're bracelets, they're bracelets.

1411
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: Okay.

1412
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: Now we can debate if it's a good use of

1413
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,960
your trophy, which you know, we uphold as the most

1414
01:06:54,039 --> 01:06:56,480
prestigious prize in the game, you know, or if we

1415
01:06:56,519 --> 01:07:00,400
should you know, treat them a little bit better. We

1416
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,119
can debate that part of it. But if the operator

1417
01:07:03,159 --> 01:07:05,000
says it's a bracelet, it's a bracelet. So sewande want

1418
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,559
to brace it. Doesn't matter if it had you know,

1419
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,599
three players, or if it had three hundred and eighty

1420
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:09,599
or thirty eight, doesn't matter.

1421
01:07:09,679 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: He want to raise it.

1422
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: Martin Cabrell won the ten k PLO Mystery Bounty. Renngi

1423
01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:19,119
Mao won the five k POO. Now, I actually I

1424
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,679
kind of don't like that mystery bounty tournaments are bracelet events.

1425
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,360
I kind of don't like that. I don't know why,

1426
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:28,920
I just it's just something about me. Mystery bounties feel

1427
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,880
like a lottery and like, on one side you have

1428
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:35,039
this crazy prize pool, but then you're also playing a

1429
01:07:35,079 --> 01:07:37,599
tournament for a bracelet, Like I don't know that that

1430
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,960
rubs me more wrong than you know, Shawnde winning a

1431
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:42,840
thirty eight entry field.

1432
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: Really, I don't know why.

1433
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: I just feel I feel kind of weird, like I

1434
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,199
would I would rather and I listen. I know why

1435
01:07:49,239 --> 01:07:52,599
mystery boundies are popular. They're widely popular. I don't like

1436
01:07:52,679 --> 01:07:55,400
to play them. I'll play them online because they're super soft,

1437
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,599
but like I won't play them live. I wish that

1438
01:07:57,679 --> 01:08:00,440
these were pko's. I think it's just such a better format.

1439
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:04,400
It's more like a competitive tournament format, more pure in

1440
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,039
that sense. So yeah, I just with the mystery bounty format.

1441
01:08:07,159 --> 01:08:09,239
My issue is like they just take so much money

1442
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:11,199
out of the prize pool and it's kind of just silly.

1443
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:15,159
And it's like we see it every year. We see

1444
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:17,359
it every year at the WSP with that the Mystery Millions,

1445
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,319
you know, where it's like we celebrate these guys that

1446
01:08:20,359 --> 01:08:22,239
won the mystery Bounty pools, and we just forget about

1447
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:24,279
the person that won the bracelet, like we do who

1448
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:26,560
won the bracelet? We don't even know. I know your

1449
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:27,960
boy wonted two years ago, or did he win this

1450
01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:31,159
last year, the Aussie guy two years ago. But it's

1451
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:34,279
like we just talked about we talk about the guy

1452
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:36,760
who won the pie Gout Jackpot in Tyler Montoya, who

1453
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,439
won the two mystery Boundy, Like yeah, like that's what

1454
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,920
we talk about more. And it's like, but these tournaments

1455
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,199
are supposed to be for the bracelets, right.

1456
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 2: But if if all that money went to the prize

1457
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,439
pool and some guy won two million dollars, would we

1458
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,520
talk about that or do we talk more about the hall.

1459
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk about how some guy won two million

1460
01:08:52,399 --> 01:08:54,039
dollars from a one K buy and and be twenty

1461
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:55,800
thousand entry. That's what we would talk about.

1462
01:08:56,079 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 2: Some guy just putting his hand in a treasure chest

1463
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,920
pulling on a million dollars is kind of cool. Yeah,

1464
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,399
it drives the clicks.

1465
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: I understand it drives the clicks, but it also drives

1466
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,199
the clicks for twenty four hours. I mean, that's the

1467
01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:10,640
new cycle we live in, Like everything's gone in twenty.

1468
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: Four hours, especially at the World Series anyway.

1469
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: Tobias Peters won the three K six Max, Benji Mao

1470
01:09:17,039 --> 01:09:19,039
won the five K PLO. Those are some of the

1471
01:09:19,119 --> 01:09:22,279
highlights from the WSP Europe schedule and then we'll see

1472
01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:25,720
how it goes for the new location and the new

1473
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,840
time slot for next year. I think I'm generally with

1474
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,199
you and that they're going to see an uptick.

1475
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:33,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have I announced the schedule.

1476
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But they did say fifteen bracelets. Okay,

1477
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,520
because like it'll probably be very similar.

1478
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: We see a buy and change for the main event.

1479
01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: No ten k euro, it'll be ten k e uro.

1480
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,840
It should be ten k uro. Keep it there, let's go.

1481
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,079
The only thing that I question, this isn't even really

1482
01:09:49,079 --> 01:09:51,239
a question, is I've been to progue a bunch for EPD.

1483
01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:53,199
Prog with that was always in December, when it was

1484
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:55,920
Christmas time, you had the holidays, the Christmas markets like

1485
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,840
all that sort of. It was magical. There absolutely magical,

1486
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,399
tons of fun. I don't know about proguing, you know,

1487
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,680
late March early, It's probably awesome, Yeah, but it it

1488
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,880
just doesn't have that magical holiday element that I know

1489
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,960
so many people gravitate towards with EPT PROP Right, you

1490
01:10:11,039 --> 01:10:11,880
got anything else for me?

1491
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: No, not really.

1492
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,039
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the PGTPOL series. I'm excited for the

1493
01:10:17,039 --> 01:10:21,800
Super high rollerble Plo. I'm excited for NAPT. I know

1494
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,079
we didn't really touch on that here, but you know,

1495
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:27,520
NAPT is less than a month away now. It's going

1496
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,079
to be happening November third through twelfth at Resorts World,

1497
01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:33,079
Las Vegas. The main event is a five K has

1498
01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:34,840
a three million dollar guarantee. They got a whole bunch

1499
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,520
of other tournaments on the schedule. I think they have

1500
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,800
some smaller like I want to say, three hundred and

1501
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,319
sixty dollars buying stuff for like some one day nightly

1502
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:44,720
type of things. They got the one K Poker Stars Open,

1503
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,920
they got a twenty two hundred Poker Stars Open high Roller.

1504
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:49,960
They got a bunch of high rollers that are all

1505
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,239
PGT qualifying events. There are eight of those with ten

1506
01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:55,560
K buying or higher, all the way up to the

1507
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,000
fifty k Super high Roller. So yeah, I'm excited to

1508
01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:02,119
be there. I'm going to try and be playing a lot.

1509
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,840
I know you're going to be there too, hopefully playing.

1510
01:11:05,279 --> 01:11:08,199
I hope you're I'm gonna play the three hundreds pro play,

1511
01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:11,199
the one kid would Poker Starts open thingy whatever that

1512
01:11:11,399 --> 01:11:13,840
is to start the series, and then you cash and

1513
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,600
then you parlay it into the main then you just

1514
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,520
keep you just keep going, Man's keep this.

1515
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,199
Speaker 2: So I did last weekend and work out piloting my

1516
01:11:20,319 --> 01:11:23,760
Venetian and the wind didn't work. Whatever, you know what

1517
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,079
I'm excited about. Very off topic. Not do it with

1518
01:11:26,079 --> 01:11:29,920
any poker this weekend. Not this weekend. Yeah, this weekend

1519
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:35,880
an Arizona USAFL Nationals. Oh my god, big rarely locked

1520
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,479
down on this pocket on this football tournament. But win,

1521
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,479
lose or draw when I come home on Tuesday, on Monday,

1522
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,079
cutting my hair, shaving my.

1523
01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:50,159
Speaker 1: Mustache, Okay, I mean, okay, what do you want?

1524
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 2: What do you want to stage? I'm excited to finally

1525
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,199
cut my hair it's been fourteen months, shaving my mustache

1526
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,880
being also fourteen months big news.

1527
01:11:59,039 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to play a bunch of poker. I'm

1528
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,640
not gonna play a ton for the next two weeks

1529
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,159
or so, just because with the series that we got

1530
01:12:06,199 --> 01:12:09,159
going on. I'm being here, but have been playing a bit.

1531
01:12:09,319 --> 01:12:11,319
I guess on that front. I was thinking the other

1532
01:12:11,399 --> 01:12:13,319
day when I was playing at the win, the first

1533
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:18,600
one of these venues that goes to eight handed, because

1534
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,279
when we were playing it was nine handed. First one

1535
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:24,279
that goes to eight handed is gonna win, hands Down'm

1536
01:12:24,279 --> 01:12:26,039
gonna win. So somebody needs to go to eight handed.

1537
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,760
Just go to eight handed. I'm telling you it'll be

1538
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,720
so much better. It'll be so much better. And yeah,

1539
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,920
you have to talking about Okay, more labor. You know

1540
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,479
what else happens. Shorter handed people bust faster, more re entries.

1541
01:12:39,359 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: Like you know.

1542
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:43,319
Speaker 1: And also it's it's not like it's like it's not

1543
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,199
like you're two x in your labor, Like you might

1544
01:12:46,279 --> 01:12:48,439
have to add like let's say they have twenty tables running,

1545
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,520
you might have to add like three or four more tables.

1546
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 2: It's not that much.

1547
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: And I think as long as you create a good

1548
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,960
product and you continue to improve your product, you're gonna

1549
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,960
make up for in the long run because people will

1550
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,920
flock to your venue more. They will come, they will

1551
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,399
want to play there, all that sort of stuff. So

1552
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,399
the first one and like I just need to do that.

1553
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,199
Speaker 2: Does the Wind need to go i'd handed? Or I

1554
01:13:11,359 --> 01:13:13,039
like people were still going to come if it's nine

1555
01:13:13,239 --> 01:13:13,640
I don't think that.

1556
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: Okay, how about this, the Wind missed their guarantee for

1557
01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:17,880
like the first time, and I can remember they did,

1558
01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:21,039
they missed two guarantees. Well, I know, they missed the

1559
01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:22,760
big one. They had a sixteen hundred dollars million dollar

1560
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,840
guarantee championship. They missed it by a little bit, but

1561
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,279
I think by ten entries, so so not a ton,

1562
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,079
but still, I mean, five day, it's a lot. It's

1563
01:13:32,079 --> 01:13:35,159
also like when I was there on the final starting

1564
01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:37,439
flight and I heard the floor talking about like how

1565
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,439
they need to hit a certain number to get back

1566
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,960
on pace, like how they were going to miss it,

1567
01:13:41,039 --> 01:13:42,800
like all this sort of stuff. I was like, even

1568
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,279
that alone, even that conversation was so surprising to me

1569
01:13:46,319 --> 01:13:48,159
because I'm just like, I'm just used to the wind,

1570
01:13:48,279 --> 01:13:51,319
just like easily beating, easily beating, easily beating. Now, there

1571
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,359
is a ton of stuff happening all over the world

1572
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,479
in poker, right, It's just a ton. Like even that

1573
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,880
price point that was a sixteen hundred, you know, there's

1574
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,960
a twelve hundred down in Texas. There's an eleven hundred

1575
01:14:00,039 --> 01:14:03,000
our WPT prime at the lodge. Like, there's a ton

1576
01:14:03,159 --> 01:14:06,000
of stuff going on, right, It's just it's getting harder

1577
01:14:06,039 --> 01:14:09,199
and harder and harder. That said, I will say that

1578
01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:11,319
I don't think it's necessarily a need, but it's one

1579
01:14:11,359 --> 01:14:13,600
of those things where like if you're just constantly looking

1580
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,800
to improve your product a little bit more, a little

1581
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,159
bit more, a little bit more every single year, month, series, whatever,

1582
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:22,479
it is, So like, I think what the wind does

1583
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:27,159
right now is pretty close to the best, if not

1584
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:29,720
the best, pretty close to perfect whatever however you want

1585
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,680
to phrase it. So like, even if you're the best,

1586
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,960
if you're one of one, what's the next step to

1587
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,279
getting better? Because you should still always try and get

1588
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:41,399
it better. And to me, the only thing I can

1589
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:45,880
really think of for them is eight handed. Go to

1590
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,640
eight handed, because that would be incredible. It would be

1591
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:49,479
so incredible.

1592
01:14:50,359 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: I'd hate it.

1593
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,279
Speaker 1: But why would you hate it?

1594
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,079
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What do you eat?

1595
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: When I played, I was like, fine, and it is fine.

1596
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,359
It's not like it's like it's not like it's six handed.

1597
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,800
I mean, and it is fine. You get more leg room.

1598
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,199
It's just better. Like it's just it's just better.

1599
01:15:11,279 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 2: It's just a better product enough for them to need

1600
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,720
to do it. It's a it's a what's what do

1601
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,840
you say? You said? What's that thing you say? It's

1602
01:15:19,039 --> 01:15:21,479
nice to have a need to have right at this

1603
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,520
stage now, if if the numbers that say you know

1604
01:15:25,399 --> 01:15:28,199
Venetian or if you know Seminoal when they open their guitar,

1605
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,960
they have a poker room and everyone fucks there. Hey,

1606
01:15:31,039 --> 01:15:32,840
you may need to make adjustment sent but brying now

1607
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:33,560
winner is harsh.

1608
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: I think I think everyone needs to needs to move

1609
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,119
to to eight handed. I would I would maybe even

1610
01:15:39,159 --> 01:15:42,720
do something like, listen, let's start with all tournaments one

1611
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,039
K buying and higher. Those are going to be eight handed.

1612
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,239
You know, maybe you don't do it for the eight hundred,

1613
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:50,399
it's a six hundred, the four hundred, et cetera. But

1614
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,359
you know, I do think and and if you think

1615
01:15:54,359 --> 01:15:57,039
about it, it kind of falls in line with what's

1616
01:15:57,119 --> 01:16:01,560
happened over history. Poker was once handed, and then they

1617
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,039
finally everyone got on board with nine handed. I mean

1618
01:16:04,079 --> 01:16:06,840
it took a long time, but finally it happened, right yeah,

1619
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:09,800
I mean even like the WSP recently was like you'd

1620
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,319
be like, oh, they might have to go ten handed,

1621
01:16:11,359 --> 01:16:12,600
they might have to go ten handed, but that this

1622
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,119
doesn't happen anymore, right, It's like, now, I think that

1623
01:16:15,239 --> 01:16:18,319
next progression is make things eight handed. You already see

1624
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seven and eight handed in high rollers, Like let's get

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that trickle down to the other stuff, right, I think

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that that can that can be a big boost. So

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I would like to see it, and I think that

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it's not that big of an ask revenue wise when

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you have to consider, you know, the more labor, because

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ultimately your product will just be better in the longer.

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So I I do think that you know, the first,

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like major venue. And when I say that, I'm talking

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about like, you know, the win Venetian, like you know,

1634
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,560
a big, major venue that's running these these things regularly.

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Seminole for example, you know obviously the other side of

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the country. But still once they I if you're the first,

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01:16:56,359 --> 01:16:58,479
I think you're gonna you're gonna reap the benefits of it.

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So that's my thought. There might take there, but that's

1639
01:17:01,279 --> 01:17:04,039
all I got, and that's all you got, so all right,

1640
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that's gonna do it for us. His name is Tim Duckworth,

1641
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my name is Donnie Peters, and we will talk to

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you guys next time.

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