Speaker 1: So it's Friday. That means it's a wise council day,
and on finances, there's no other wise council I would
ever consult in Zach Abraham, chief investment officer Bow Capital Management,
so much to ask him about. We're going to talk
about the big bulbous bill that Elon Musk does not like,
and we'll do that with Zach Abraham courtesy of course
of God's Almighty.
Speaker 2: But Todd Herman show is one disapproved by big pharma
technocrats in Tyrone sabran Where from the high mountains of
Free America, here's the Emerald city exile.
Speaker 1: Todd Herman. Today is the day the Lord has made,
and these are the times to which God has decided
we shall live. Zach Abraham joins us, brother, welcome back.
Speaker 3: Good to be back, man. How are you you know?
Speaker 1: I dislike days where I know I'm going to anger
members of the podcast family by talking about President Trump's
big beautiful bill. But I'm having the same right now
facial response, you are you just put your hands in
your face. I just did too. I don't want to
have this conversation. I don't want to say these things,
but I'm very sorry. I stand with Elon Musk and
Thomas Massey on the Big Bulbous Bill, and I want
to make clear President Trump's job and maybe it's probably
not as it's ten million times harder than mine. It's
probably eight point five million times harder than yours. So
I think we can all recognize that he has to
get a budget passed. There's the pragmatism of DC. But Zach,
look at this video and then I'm going to turn
to you to defend us continuing to be forced to
spend money on this. It's time to finally on there.
Speaker 3: Allen's Ma's over. It's uncanny.
Speaker 4: Ellen looked just like Jonathan van Ness that is, can.
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Speaker 1: Allan money taken at the point of a gun from
us to that and Republicans. Zach can't agree to take
the tax money out of that, so your job to defend.
Speaker 3: It the defense rest Look you can't And this, yeah,
I mean I could try to act like I'm surprised,
because I'm not. Because usually I would say like eight
times out of ten when I get your show sheet notes, Yeah,
it's usually stuff that I want to talk about too, right,
I feel like we're usually on the same page. And
so this one, you know, when I was driving in
this morning thinking about doing this, that this was front
and center of my mind too. And this goes back
to I think a couple things are happening right now.
First of all, I think that the messaging surrounding the
budget and surrounding the debt and the deficit I think
has been wrong from the very beginning. And I said
this back when when the administration first took power and
we were talking about deficits and what I thought that
they should be doing. And the reason I thought it
was really important is because for you to tackle this
deficit issue when the deficit and what people have to
understand is that when the deficit gets this large as
a percentage of the economy, hey it you would think
that because the spending levels are so large, it's easy
to cut, and it is. There's obviously a lot of
froth there that you can cut. The problem is is
that you're at seven percent of the economy. Is your
deficit not a traditional two and a half to three.
So what does that mean. That means that every dollar
in reduction in spending or bringing down the deficit has
a greater negative economic feedback right feedback loop. And so
the only way to tackle this in modern day America
where we're at, because I do believe that we have
reached that point that Tyler talked about. I can't remember
the exact time, but I believe it was somewhere in
the early eighteen hundreds, fairly soon after the formation of
our government in seventeen seventy six. But he said that
he referenced America as the great experiment that will last.
And a lot of people botch this quote. It was
not said by Franklin, it was not said by Alexi
to tofil It was said by Tyler. And what he
said was this great experiment will ask until the populace
realizes that they can vote themselves large as the state treasury.
And I think that's a problem with where we're at,
and meaning, you know, everybody, oh, yeah, we got to
cut spending, we got to cut cut the deficit. But
then you get down into specific since well, not in
my backyard. I'm going to defend my constituents. Right. So
that's why I said from the very beginning when we
talk about tackling the deficit at this point, the only
shot you've got to do it that's politically viable, meaning
do it in such a way that you don't get
you know, an eighty or seventy percent majority Democrats in
the Congress. Yeah, you've got to do it over time.
You've got to make these cuts over the long run.
You need to pull some down. I think the goal
probably should have been to keep the deficit flat for
a period of time. And would you like to you know,
when Trump came out and said we're going to cut
the deficit by we're going to balance the budget, right,
do I wish we were there? Absolutely? But when government
spending is at that level, when you've got GDP at
twenty seven trillion dollars and you've got a government budget
that's going to top seven trillion, right, you've got to
anticipate the negative economic feedback that is going to come
from those cuts. And you've also got to be honest
about the fact that you're in that period of time
where everybody is voting themselves large as the state treasury.
So you got to keep the economy rolling. You can't
crush things, but you've got to tackle that dead over time.
And this is exactly what I was afraid of. I
think what happened, pot is I think they got in
there thinking that they, you know, with the best of intentions,
and they started realizing, wait a second, if we cut this,
it's going to be political suicide and there's not also
going to be immediate positive economic you know, reverberations and
results that we can lean back on. Right, It's going
to be painful.
Speaker 1: Okay, But okay, you're saying something so very very important,
So I want to step back. I wanted to slow
down and dig into this because what you're saying is
important as well, because this is something that people who
love President Trump, and there's a lot of people in
the podcast family, they dearly, dearly, dearly dearly love the man,
and I want to make sure everyone understands he's not
going to rescue us. I mean, he can't rescue himself.
We can't rescue ourselves. We should not be placing our
hope in this temple. But what you're saying now adds
a complexity to this that I don't think it's enough attention.
So let's dig into that in just a second. This
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Com slash Todd. So Zach, this sounds like someone comes
off surgery, okay, And they're on oxygen, and they're on
one hundred percent oxygen, and eventually they're on eighty percent
oxygen and then forty percent. That's a crucial point. If
they never get off that forty percent oxygen, they never
take that thing out of their nose, they could be
trapped for life on this, right, and so they want
to off that immediately. You have people who try to
and smoke bit by bit by bit, but they just
can't get up that last little bit. They can't wake
up without it, they can't function without it. You're telling
me government spending has become such a big part of
our economic activity that the Gordian knot we've put around
our own necks is that cutting government spending will cut
our economy.
Speaker 3: Adds one hundred percent in the immediate in the immediate future. Okay,
So what you and I both know, and guys, I
am not advocating for permanently higher government spending to boost
the economy because it's that's fake, right, It's fake growth
because you're spending money, you don't have the juice an economy.
What I've equated it too is it's like you know,
taking an old burnout four cylinder engine and pumping a
bunch of nitrous through it and going, oh, look, you
know we got a V eight on our hands. Well, no,
you don't, right, you know, you don't. Right, It's that
that's temporary and it's juice. But but yeah, you have
to when you're seven percent of GDP. I mean, but
they put it in perspective. And I've said this before,
but I think people need to keep these numbers in mind.
We all went through the financial crisis of eight o nine.
That whole miserable experience was a three point eight percent
reduction in GDP. Okay, so think about this. So you're
running seven percent deficits right now. To get down to
three percent deficits we're on which you are on the
high side of normal. That amount of cutting is four
percent of the entire economy. So that so to get
back to a balanced budget, you're talking about an economic
contraction that is on par, if not slightly greater than
the financial crisis. So my point is not that it's
impossible to tackle. My point is that I think the
Trump administration came in and I don't think Trump or
the advisor's closest to him were fully aware of you know,
the total, you know, just just the the vastness of
the issue. And eventually, if you cut that spending, the
eventually our economy will be better for it. Private market
will come in and fill that gap. But it takes time.
And that's the that's one of the very nefarious and
deleterious parts about going down this printed money path because
the impact is instant, right, it doesn't take twenty four
months to get up, and you're just shoving money around,
giving it to everybody. Everybody, Oh, mark it up, great,
unemployment back, you know, it's which is which is great, okay,
but it's not real. And so the further you drift,
And that's the problem with deficits is it's like anything
in life, it's like sin, right, Like the longer you go.
I remember in our Bible study, we had a we
had a guy there that was a test pilot for
Boeing and he talked about how, you know, flying in
airplanes a lot like managing your life. Co pilot the
co pilot systems they have in there or the automatic
pilot right that you know systems they have in there.
It doesn't make these big course corrections to keep the
plane on the right track. What it's doing is is
making little, constant corrections, right, little and they're painless. You
barely even feel them. If you're sitting in the airplane, right,
you can't even tell. And it's just little course corrections.
And that's the way our lives should be to avoid
those big penal things. But the longer we drift off course,
the more painful back course correction is, the more air
speed we lose getting back on track, the longer the
flight takes. And the same is true on the fiscal side, right,
the bigger the imbalances get. Here's here's the scary part, Todd.
If you go into recession now, you're not looking at
a seven percent deficit, yeare, You're probably looking at ten
to ten to twelve, right, to put that in perspective,
Brazil's it. So I mean it, it's go time. And
that's what I totally understand what Trump's up against, and
so I'm not at all bashing him either. This is
a complicated issue and it's not just dis ease like
you could just cut the spending. But then the question
is is who's going to get elected next time? Right?
Speaker 1: Did they just the people come back and plug it
back in right. So Cyce Lewis said, you reminded me
of something My wife got discreated and it hangs in
our bedroom wall. Is from C. S. Lewis and mere Christianity.
Good and evil both increase at compound interest. That is
why the little decisions you and I make every day
are of such infinite importance. The smallest good act today
is to capture of a strategic point from which a
few months later you may be able to go on
to victories you never dreamed of. And apparently trivial indulgence
in lust or anger today is the loss of a
ridge or a railway line or bridgehead from which the
enemy may launch an attack otherwise impossible. So some are
a long line. We took government spending that we have
to spend, okay, so we have to protect our borders,
We have to fund our military. We have to pay
our government employees for their work. All you know, it's
audible work. They deserve a paycheck. And I think you
know Satan looks at that, looks at the structure of
the United States. We are this unique experiment in self governance.
We recognize in our founding documents that God Almighty gave
us rights unalienable by the governments. That had to really
anger Satan because we recognize God's majesty, his power. There's
religious liberty here like never before. So he can take
something like that. He can't invent, so he can distort,
he can depress, he can distract. Oh, government spending, that's good,
you should do more, right, And there's that famous line
from Johnson talking about the welfare program. President Johnson, you know,
let me feed those N word people, you know, more
and more welfare, and I'll have the N word population
out of the Democrat parties hands. And there are entire
populations of people who've been content to believing the only
way they can have a fruitful life is with the
government check from a kind, kind woman like Hillary Clinton
who loves them deeply and dearly and can't stop thinking
about them all the time. So that that started on
an individual level, and then you had the disaster of well,
but if the black father goes to work, the welfare
is gone and you broke up the black families. You
have government spending in all the schools, et cetera. So
now you're saying that that horrible phrase welfare queen. Our
country is a bunch of welfare queens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and and the way you can tell like,
let's let's let's get down to brass tacks. Okay, all right,
So when we're talking budget, we got to look at.
Speaker 1: A pen and paper coming out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta go. We gotta look at medicare yep,
we got to look at social security, right, yep, we
got to look at national defense, and then we got
to look at interest on the debt. Okay. The reason
I point those out is because without significant congressional action,
unprecedented congressional action, actually, you're not going to touch any
of that spending. Okay. And that spending, I believe is
about eighty five percent of the budget. So right, so
you what you're dealing with? Now, does that mean there
aren't aren't other things we have to fund? No, of
course there are things that we have to fund outside
of that. My point is until we're prepared to tackle
those four things, everything else is nonsense.
Speaker 1: Okay, I agree, totally. What then, let me offer this
that that video clip we're paid, we played puppets who
are grooming kids into backing a non biblical belief about
human sexuality. They can't cut that thinking about cutting it.
Lindsey Graham just spent four hundred and eleven thousand, six
hundred and thirty four dollars for hotel stays in Ukraine.
Our money. Lindsey Graham's a multimillionaire as a senator, he
was a jag officer in the Navy. He was a lawyer.
We can't cut that.
Speaker 3: Now, no, I no, no, So I know you want
that cuts yeah, yo, heck yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't know about you. And maybe this
is different at Bulwark. I'm guessing it's not. But if
an expense sheet came across your wife's desk for one
of your guys who went, let's say, to an industry
event on your behalf to go learn some of the
new things in the industry, and came back and presented
to you a four hundred and eleven thousand, six hundred
and thirty four dollars bill for a hotel stay, they
might not work there very long.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Either that or I'd promote him because I just think
it was such a hilarious joke. I'd just be like,
you got me. That's a good joke. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got Papa laughing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't you and the wife or the kids
come over for dinner to night? Are you? Are you gonna?
But are you gonna pay me back? This guy's got
all the jokes. Yeah, I mean yeah, no, and and
and and that's and that's where I was. So that's
why I was so grossed out by all the criticism
against DOAGE, because I'm just sitting there going, hey, so guys,
when spending is out of control, you don't get it
under control by laughing at and minimizing the discovery of
waste and fraud, right like, that's that's called the low
hanging fruit. That's actually exactly where you should.
Speaker 1: Write, right right, like, like a third of our money
that goes to the treasury, we will never know where
it went.
Speaker 3: Do you know that?
Speaker 1: That should have caused an atomic explosion of morality in Washington, DC,
where heads exploded and everybody said no, right now, all
government spending is tracked or it does not go through
the treasury. Is to deny any spending that does not
have a tracking code to it, and we're going to
pay a bounty to people who can't find it. With
this stuff, That's what I mean. Those that because I'm
want to go through the debt clock because in our
conversation here, I'm looking at these numbers US federal debt
to GDP ratio. Let's look at this together in a second.
Nineteen sixty, nineteen eighty, two thousand and twenty twenty five.
Let's look at this together in just a second. And
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the official numbers thirty six trillion, nine hundred and twenty
nine billion, two hundred and twenty two million, three hundred
and sixty eight thousand, nine hundred and twenty five dollars.
Debt per taxpayer three hundred and twenty three thousand and
fifty one dollars. Here's the numbers. I wanted to look
at US federal debt to GDP ratio nineteen sixty fifty
two point eight nineteen eighty thirty four point five, nine
two thousand. It's fifty seven point sixty five right now,
it's one hundred and twenty two point nine to one percent.
That's federal debt to GDP ratio, Zach. If that reaches
two hundred pre we don't come back.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, what's more concerning about it is it opens
up really Pandora's box, meaning you know, nobody really knows
what the world looks like in that scenario. They you know,
you're gonna have prognosticate, well, a dollar you're gonna collap like, Look,
it's not that simple and It's not that simple, because
the dollar is the world reserve currency, and people are like,
you're gonna lose reserve status. You're like, again, not that simple, guys.
These things just don't happen in vacuums, right, Like, meaning,
these things are usually accompanied by wars, revolutions. You know,
it's you don't you know, I'm not I'm obviously not
wishing any of these things. I just history is really
replete with these examples, and it doesn't end well, it
doesn't end well. And then, like you said, I mean,
there really is no thirty eighth parallel because these things
are so nuanced, and there's there's there's so there's there's
so much to them. But you know, at rest assured
at one hundred and twenty two, one hundred and twenty
three percent debt to GDP and I and I think
the other thing to point out too, that's not a
that's not a high water mark. And what I mean
by that is we're not at the bottom of a
recession right now. Right. I would be far less concerned
about that debt to GDP number if we had nine
percent unemployment and we were just exiting a really nasty recession,
right The problem is is you've got record tax receipts record. Okay,
so it's not going to get better from here, right,
Like it's the there's no natural tension that's going to
ease in this situation if you continue on the path
you're on, right, Like, there's the the so the new
sole only gets tighter from here. Yeah, you know, like
I said, you go into recession and those numbers are
going to get worse in a hurry, you know, because
then you're then you're gonna have soaring debt because that's
not gonna slow down in a lot of ways, it'll
pick up because you and I know both know what's
going to happen. You go into a nasty recession. What
are they gonna do. They're gonna do the compassionate thing.
They're gonna print more money, right, so then you've got
a reduction in GDP and an increase in government spending
at the same time.
Speaker 1: If you if you're Tom Steyer, who is a guy
who doesn't dig America that much, or George Cerros who
openly hates American says it needs to be taken down
a few notches, is there a way you could short
America like in terms of shorting US as a stock,
if you look at US.
Speaker 3: As a stock, yeah, yeah, the way you short it
is to be long China. Oh so yeah, Chinese investments.
Speaker 1: Okay, so long China is shorting America?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean over yeah, over the long like over
a longer run. I'm not advising anybody go out and
do that right now, put that trade on right, right,
But what I'm saying is yes, effectively right, so meaning
somebody's system has to give here at some point.
Speaker 1: So could we go figure out where the bets are
lined up in terms of when the big crash comes,
if it comes. I mean that would take a lot
of work, but I imagine you could find that, couldn't you.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you look at the you could.
The problem is is that a lot of those bets
right now before those situations happen, look relatively small. If
you're talking like big short bets and things like that, yeah,
but if you're talking about China, yeah, I mean you
can go. Look. I mean, go look at how active
Alex Soros has been investing over in China, right, go
look at go look at Larry Fink and the black
Rocks of the world. Right, look at you know, even
I don't think he's nearly as bad of a guy
at all, But you don't go look at Ray Dalio's
advocacy for investment in China. Yeah, and and they're never
gonna say this, but look that they see economic opportunity
in China, and anybody that looks and knows anything can
But the other part of that trade is that is
a trade that is simultaneously a hedge against the US
not being the top dog anymore. That's one hundred percent
of motivator buying that trade.
Speaker 1: Okay, And I just want people to know that there
are those forces that are lining up for that, and
they may be making a bed when this happens. You
can watch China move into gold, you can watch China
move into fresh water. You can see China buying American farmland.
I don't know if you saw this. Cash Patel just
said sort of a kind of a funny, goofy sort
of thing. They've arrested a couple of Chinese nationals in
our country who had brought in a biotoxin that can
poison wheats and grains and make people very very sick
from eating wheat grain. Barley just brought it into America.
Speaker 3: Just so, I mean, are they are they staying with
Anthony Fauci? Okay, I mean it's probably guys he was funding, right,
I would think, well.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I am science itself, all right. I
want to play for you something Elon said, and then
I want to ask you the following question. I'll give
your heads up. Now, what was the most important thing
that Doge found? And what's the most if you if
you were sitting with the Republican Congress and having gone
through all the pragmatism, all the value providers today, and
there's one thing they have to do based upon what
we learned from Doge. I want you to answer that.
And Zach and I are going to be getting more
different planes, which sucks, but we're going to be down
in Port of Art to Mexico, down at renew Healthcare
and I'm not this time. Actually, actually I take that back.
I am going to get a treatment, not stem cells
this time. I'm getting m N treatment which is going
to help me with my metabolism, boost and energy. It
gets rid of inflammation. This is just an IV. I'm
going to get that. Zach is I don't want to
violate hippos. So you know the thing you're getting done
to your ears and so you look more like a
back creature that's on you. So don't actually do that.
You should get the heart screening, but I think your heart.
Speaker 3: So I'm getting a septum piercing. That's yeah.
Speaker 1: They do that with the stem cells too. Then you
grow second nose that through your sceptum.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: So they and I can't wait. I want to be
there when you see their lab. By the way, this
is a mind blower. They're located next door literally share
an office with or a building with a world class
hospital there. This matters because they take them biblical cords
from women they've paid for their entire pregnancy. They track
their health before and after. They take those ubilical cords
down to their lab and they never leave. They reject
eighty percent of the ones they get because they are
insane about quality. I didn't tell you this, but there
was We have a mutual friend that he's a client
of yours, friend of mine, and they were doing treatment
one day. They're down there for a couple of weeks
and they called and or texted and said, hey, we
were testing the stem cells this morning. They're not reactive enough.
Let's reschedule for it tomorrow. And they could have injected
them and it wouldn't have harmed her at all. They
just wouldn't have done their job. So they admitted that
that is such high class ethics. So this will be
the first time. I'm not getting stem cell treatment there,
but I think I'm going to get the heart screening.
And I don't think I have any problem with my heart.
But I've seen worldcath athletes go down there and ended
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be very handy. Right, that's my day.
That's my dad joke of the day.
Speaker 1: But to boom boom, Zach Abraham, everybody, all right, here's
what Elon must have. Now note this, here's Elon on
CBS News one of their morning shows. And Zach. Notice
they're not attacking Elon Musk anymore.
Speaker 6: So you know, I was like disappointed to see the
massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget depths that
not doesn't decrease it, and that reminds the work that
the Noche team is doing.
Speaker 1: I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along.
I mean, like everything he's done on Doge gets wiped
out in the first year.
Speaker 6: I think, I think a bill can be can be
can be big or it can be beautiful.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it could be both. Why
do you think they're treating him so nice?
Speaker 3: Oh well, because what he's saying now doesn't go one
hundred percent in line with Trump. And I was looking
at that last night because you look and hear the
headlines and it's, you know, the end of the romance
and they're at war. And then you read the details
of what Musk said and you're like, well, he didn't
say anything, like he's just expressing an opinion, like you
know what I mean, Like, he didn't say anything vile
about Trump, He didn't turn his back on im. He
didn't say he's a bad guy. I think he's being honest,
and I think he's saying what Republicans are afraid to say.
And yeah, I mean the bill. Yeah. Now here's the
other thing I think is unfair about this process is
whatever bill he passes has to get through Congress, right,
so the constraints of that. I think the people that
are being hard on Trump aren't being fair about that,
which is, hey, guys, you know, I can design the
most idealistic, conservative friendly, deficit reducing bill in history, but
if nobody votes for it, what does it matter?
Speaker 1: Right? Right? So I have Yeah, So let me offer
what I think was the most important discovery from Ditch.
And I've already mentioned one, and that's that our money
was not being tracked. That's pretty stink and important. Nothing
we can do about that now other than make sure
it's tracked on a go forward basis. I would say
it's this. The structure of USAID was designed to launder money,
so you can have pseudo cia ops, but it's all political.
All of it was political. Yeah, there's some things where
we've fed people praise gods, and we can do that,
and we should do that to some degree. But here's
my solution to this stuff. Like the NGOs who were
destabilizing America and they were bringing elections and they were
paying for the bricks at the protests and they're still
doing that. They were funding fake Christian churches one hundred
percent of revenues coming to heretical churches that aren't the
least bit Christian baith to call them that. We were
forced to pay for those things. Here's my solution. You
take one dollar in government money. You are a subject
to Foier requests. We own your emails, your communication, and
any act to try to get around that, such as
communicating off of company email, that's a felony. Every time
that happens, that's a felony. So choose Hey, Harvard you
want our money, sweet, take it. We citizen journalists and
others we get to do foyas. You try to dodge
the foyas. It's a felony for every time you've done it.
Because I think then that's one way to bring sunlight
to this where it's very difficult to take money out
of politics, particularly given what you've talked about today that
our nation is sadly addicted to government spending. That would
be me seeing the most important thing is the degree
of infrastructure fraud and fraud invites and encouraged by infrastructure
and hidden by infrastructure. So that's my way around it.
That's what I think is most important. What about you
in terms of.
Speaker 3: DOCH So it's not going to show up as a
line item, you know that. And it got brushed over
by the media, of course, just because the size of it.
It wasn't it wasn't significant in terms of size. But
I think it was the revelations and the and the
proof that we got that came out of the U. S.
Speaker 2: A I.
Speaker 3: D Deal. And now unfortunately we have a I'm gonna
talk about our media, but an extraordinarily broken media, and
and the right things don't get functioned, or the right
things don't get discussed and brought to light. We all
know that. But to me, the revolution, the revelations and
at U S A I. D. And some of the
most egregious ones were the money that the Soros Foundation
received to fund the undermining of our national judicial system.
And what I mean People are like, oh, that's a
political valuation. No it isn't. If you go listen to
what that part of the Soros Foundation was trying to do,
that that branch of open border society was trying to do.
Is it was purposefully trying to get elected prosecutors and
judges that did not adhere to the constitution, right right,
So what we were using tax payer dollars to fund
a private institution that is overtly and admittedly trying to
undermine our judicial system, right Like, No, that is so
crazy to me. And how that isn't a scandal is
just beyond me. It's true and it's not true. Yeah, yeah,
it was. It's treason at the very least, right, what
the what's the other one. I was looking this up
the other day. Different you got treason and then you've
got seditions, sedition. Yeah, at the very least it's sedition,
and and the fact that that doesn't get mentioned, right,
the fact that nobody talks about like Fauci, that we
all know him lying under oath, and I know that's
not part of DOJ. But the things that are most
concerning to me is that when we find this corruption
and this criminality that is undeniable, right, smoking gun after
smoking gun, and for political reasons, nobody cares. And that
that to me is the scariest thing, because when the populace,
when we get to a point where as long as
I'm giving getting my government cheese and as long as
I'm getting mine, I don't care what kind of criminality
is going on behind the scenes. You know, it's it's
it's hard to rescue drowning men. It's almost impossible to
rescue drowning men that don't want to be rescued. And
that's I fear, that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: I agree, And they take Kuma Abadin, now divorced from
Anthony wiener Uh and with al sorrows, and New York
Magazine runs this power picture of them lounging on this
you know, high rooftop overlooking the new hipster village of
Brooklyn and obviously wagging it interfaces. Right, they're power couple,
and nothing you can do about it, and he should
be at the least the thing that should happen is
he should be deported. So that's a depressing thing. You
shared something on Twitter that speaks to a human spirit
that there's still good people. I was thinking of the
Willy Wonka thing, Alex, You'll have to talk with this.
Into the dark world, the light shines, remember that. At
the end of We've looked it up and grabbed that.
It's the closing scene. It's Gene Hackman and Willy Willy
Wonka's in the chocolate factory and Charlie returns the Everlasting Gobstopper,
and there's that moment because because Gene Wilder has done
this thing and you stole from me, and it says
in paragraph four, sub section C mark D, line four,
can I say shame on you, sir, and and let's
go Charlie or yeah, let's let's go. Yeah, let's go Charlie.
He's a crook. We'll take this cop stopper and they
start heading out and Gene Hackman turns around to his
desk and Alex to pull this video here in for
seconds and so I'll bring that back. But then there's
this moment and it has to do not with chocolate,
but with something else that happened to you and your son.
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called Irish True. So Alex is going to work finding
this video and what is it there? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: You got it?
Speaker 1: Oh, he's putting it in right now. So I'll pay
that off in a second. But this happens at a
baseball game and you you called this out on Twitter.
It's Julio Rodriguez, you wrote is a class act. This
kid remember that small interaction for the rest of his life.
You had a comment on top of that. Here's what happens,
little boy.
Speaker 7: He's outside the dugout, He's got a ball, gets Julia
Rodriguez's attention, and Hulu Ruggers.
Speaker 4: Signs the ball, but the boy speaks to him and
he says, pardon me what and he comes back, comes
back over with the fist bump. Took time out of
his day to do this and did it with joy.
And you said something that was really really cool, and
you made a comment on this.
Speaker 1: So tell your story about Huli Rodriguez.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so funny. Stories that we were sitting
right there. So my son was actually in the same seat.
We were a row up and people were gone, nobody
was in that seat, and so he asked me if
he could get up in that chair. Yeah, and I said, yeah, sure,
hop in there. And so he's kind of just you know,
really great spot you can got to hang out. Look
in the dugout and I look down in between innings
and Julie standing there on the stairs and he just
strikes up a conversation with him. Your son then, yeah,
right in the middle game, and my son's eight years old,
time right, and he started pointing out other guys and
pulling other guys into the conversation. This is in the
middle of the game, Right in the middle of the game.
And every time he came in out of the dugout,
he's fist bumping my kid the whole time, and they're
chatting it up and I'm standing behind him watching and
Julio kind of looks back at me and gives me
the nod and the wink with a smile. And you
just sat there and watched it, and you went, God
darn it, there's somebody that really appreciates the platform they've
been given and sees the little kids and does it
with a smile on his face. It was just it's
one of you know, it was just it was just
a class act and it was one of those things
you sit and it warms your heart because you sit
there and go, my son is going to remember that
for the rest of his life. And it was just
it was just so neat to watch. And then he
got the other players fist bumping him and you know,
my kid, he thought he'd died and gone to heaven.
It was it was really cool to see.
Speaker 1: We were in West Seattle once, my daughter and I
when she was speed skating and I'd been riding the
bike and she'd been skating, and this is back when
she was you know, going up to compete for national
championships since a little kid, but on this really killer team.
So she had these amazing speed skates and they're like
ten millimeter wheels and maybe twelve and they're big, four
of them on our skates, bigger than her feet, you know.
And so we've been skating West Seattle, which is this
beautiful place, even in the fallen country of Seattle. It's
this amazing view of downtown Sattle. You're across the water
from downtown Seattle. And we skated up to where Salties
is at and there's a there was I think it's
still there. There's another restaurant there that's a fish restaurant,
but it's kind of like a fish fry place, you know,
more casual. We skate up and we get in line,
and she's on her skates, you know, and I'm walking
because I parked my bike. And there's a guy in
front of us and he's buying food. He turns around
and sees my daughter skates. He goes, dude, those are bad.
We see those, and he's looking at him and he
looks at me dead. You mind if I touch those,
I go, it's up to her. He mind, have a
touch your skates and he's down, he's touch her skates.
How fast can he go on these? She goes, oh,
I don't know. I said, well, actually on the way over,
she was going about forty one miles an hour. Dude
what like? Gives her the fist bump and stuff, and
he goes, you guys eat here. Yeah, we gets on me.
It's on me. Let me buy And my daughter looks
at me panicked. I go, I think mister Vedder has
the money, no kid, And I said, I think mister Vetterer. Yeah,
I think mister Vetder.
Speaker 3: Can afford this.
Speaker 1: So he purchased this food for us and gave my
daughter a high five. And and I didn't ask for picture.
I should have shook my hands, said hey, you know,
I call you. He goes absolutely said always love the
music man, thank you, and that was really cool. And
so he sat down. My daughter goes, who you knew
his name? Yeah, he's the lead singer of Pearl Jam.
Speaker 3: He's kind of big deal.
Speaker 1: She goes, but he's nice. Yeah, And I mean that
spoke a lot about Eddie, who's a freaky you know,
Champagne socialist, et cetera.
Speaker 3: But that was her boy. I taught. This is and
this is why I make it a very clear point.
Whenever I get stopped by a young kid in the
airport that's a big fan and Know Your Risk podcast,
I never, I never don't take the time for the kids.
I don't ever do it.
Speaker 1: I saw once Karl Malone at a mall in Utah
and he was in a store buying like three sets
of custom sunglasses, and a kid came up to him
and said, mister Malone, I love you in the Utah
Jazz Can you sign monograph? No Ah, No, but just
because my shirt. No, no, no, don't bother me.
Speaker 3: Don't bother me.
Speaker 1: I'm not working right now. And he didn't see me there.
He didn't see me there. I got to do this
later at the radio station. I got to do this.
I love this moment. So I'm in the bathroom and
we had a sport station, we had our talk station,
and we had a music station in that building. So
I'm in the little common kitchenette area and the sports hosts,
a guy did not get along with comes in. He goes, Hey,
if you're curious why no one's listening to your show
this morning. I've got this guy on mine and it's
Karmelone and I shook his hand and go, Todd Herman,
nice to meet. She goes, Karl Malonago, what do you do?
He goes, I played basketball? I go, oh, well you
University of Utah? No, Utah Jazz?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Is that a local club? Just playing it like completely straight?
And I'm told and I learned later that they spent
like the first fifteen minutes talking about me.
Speaker 3: You know, I have another one that people should know
about to really quick. Yeah, and a bit of an
American hero athletically. But Michael Phelps. I was lucky enough
to play around of golf with him. And the amount
of time and the amount of inconvenience that guy went
through to sign autographs for people, and I know because
it slowed our group down all day long. It was
just impressive. And the guy tried not to turn down anybody.
And he is exactly what you'd hoped he'd be behind
the scenes, just another class act. And he got mobbed.
I mean, I've never been around fame like that. We
had to do a human role to get him to
an outhouse. Amazing. Yeah, And he just couldn't have been
better about it.
Speaker 1: Man, that's really cool. This is the moment Alex went
and grabbed this.
Speaker 3: So shines a good deed. You know, weary world, and.
Speaker 1: You can go see the rest of them. Run Zach,
You remember that in that movie, that scene.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, hundred percent of that one.
Speaker 1: I read that book to my daughter and the book
is significantly different in some ways. But when Charlie got
his golden ticket, I remember my daughter. We were in Virginia.
She's jumping up on the up and down in the bed.
He got the tickets, he got the take one of
my favorite parenting moments. Always good to have you on
the show. Brother, and gosh, next time I see you,
I'll be coming to as we say, as I say
in the South. I learned this in Mississippi. I'm gonna
come hug your neck. Did you know they say that?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't know that. I'm gonna I'm gonna use
that though.
Speaker 1: Might actually not gonna touch your neck. But all this
is the Totter Show. Please go, be well, be strong,
be kind, and please make every effort to walk in
the light of Christ.