Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen.
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen?
Speaker 3: What I going up?
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. I got a
Speaker 4: bunch of us. I got a couple of us here, actually,
Speaker 4: just a couple of us here tonight with Carl Crusher
Speaker 4: returning guests.
Speaker 3: We've had them on a few times.
Speaker 4: Guys always got amazing, crazy stories to tell us, and
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's got some more wild ones for us
Speaker 4: tonight before we get to him.
Speaker 3: We're gonna introduce Headless Giant. What is going on? My man?
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 5: How are you doing? I got beans over here, I
Speaker 5: got the trialogues coming on tomorrow with Ethan and Ricardo,
Speaker 5: and then later on we're gonna be talking about the
Speaker 5: Green Man with jewels, so it's gonna be a really
Speaker 5: interesting tomorrow. You can find me on YouTube at the
Speaker 5: Headless Giant Podcast and also on x the Headless Giant.
Speaker 5: If you have any strange, occult, weird stories kind of
Speaker 5: like the ones we're gonna be talking about today, send
Speaker 5: them to the Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com
Speaker 5: and if you include your address, Nick will send you
Speaker 5: out some stickers and we do those on Thursday, so
Speaker 5: definitely check that out. Thank you guys, it's really popping.
Speaker 5: We got some great stories coming in, so definitely check
Speaker 5: us out on Thursdays. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Yes, and this Thursday we might have an interesting guest,
Speaker 4: so just letting you know. Yeah, uh and Tyrone my man?
Speaker 4: How wait, so please let everybody know what's up with you?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: Head List?
Speaker 3: What's up? Nick? Hey?
Speaker 1: He list? Man? You keep forgetting bro.
Speaker 6: You got to promote your art, man, you keep forgetting
Speaker 6: that like I promote the books. Man, you gotta promote
Speaker 6: your art, you know what I'm saying. So while he's
Speaker 6: doing that, everything that you want to find about me
Speaker 6: or learn about me is on my website, rebirth at
Speaker 6: the word dot com. I love ancient history, mythologies, conspiracies
Speaker 6: and all kinds of stuff. I also wrote a book
Speaker 6: that went bestseller that's on Journey through the Journey through
Speaker 6: the Origins of History. That's on Amazon. And I know
Speaker 6: Carl from Twitter spaces. This man got a lot of
Speaker 6: respect from me, so I'm very anxious to hear what
Speaker 6: he has to say.
Speaker 2: Thank you for letting me be here.
Speaker 4: Of course, you know, thank you, sir, and I think
Speaker 4: it's awesome that you knew who he was. Probably I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, this is awesome, and now we got
Speaker 4: to man himself. We got a call Crusher. What is
Speaker 4: going on, sir? For people who don't know who you
Speaker 4: are yet? Because it's been a while since you've been
Speaker 4: on the show, and I've gotten some new subs and followers,
Speaker 4: why don't you let everybody know kind of what you're
Speaker 4: into and some of your credentials places you've been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my name is Karl Andreson. Online, I go by
Speaker 1: Carl Crusher just because it's easier to spell and everything.
Speaker 1: But I explore ancient locations, paranormal hotspots, and places where
Speaker 1: it's known that the government has done a lot of
Speaker 1: research and psychic research into the UFO and UAP phenomena.
Speaker 1: So I'm really fascinated with that over layer between the
Speaker 1: paranormal consciousness and UFOs and aliens or other life, and
Speaker 1: so I try to throw myself in the middle of
Speaker 1: that as a filmmaker, go out and make a lot
Speaker 1: of independent films and documentary projects, and then I upload
Speaker 1: them all over the place and see how far I
Speaker 1: can go with it, who I can work with and
Speaker 1: what kind of things I can uncover, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to explore consciousness and reality and film it
Speaker 1: all as I go along the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely do want a good job.
Speaker 4: So hey, of course, of course, I know recently you've
Speaker 4: been kind of back at Skinwalker Ranch again.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just up there. They just had a whole
Speaker 1: convention up there called Phenomenon where a ton of people
Speaker 1: came together, like the whole Skinwalker Ranch crew was there,
Speaker 1: and a bunch of them are speaking, like Whitley Strieber
Speaker 1: was there, Jay Stratton was there. I got to meet
Speaker 1: and talked to Jay Stratton from the you know, he's
Speaker 1: the Pentagon guy that was the head of the UAP
Speaker 1: Task Force for a while. I think that's what he was.
Speaker 1: But yeah, just a bunch of people from the field
Speaker 1: and the UFO world and then but mostly I'm researching
Speaker 1: a new spot that's just north of Skinwalker Ranch. There's
Speaker 1: a whole property up there called Thunderstrike Ranch, and it's
Speaker 1: basically like ten miles north of Skinwalker Ranch. But it's
Speaker 1: the same exact cows that grays on the property at
Speaker 1: Skinwalker Ranch. So on the show, when you see the
Speaker 1: stories about the dead cows that they find or animal
Speaker 1: mutilations or some cow just turns up dead or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's the exact same herd that are up at Thunderstrike
Speaker 1: Ranch that actually goes and grays is at Skinwalker Ranch,
Speaker 1: and so it's the same owners, it's the same cows,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of the same families and everything. It's
Speaker 1: just a little bit north across the town and all
Speaker 1: the same legends and everything. But yeah, just been going up.
Speaker 1: They're working with some of the people that used to
Speaker 1: work at Skinwalker Ranch back in the day during Bigelow's era,
Speaker 1: hanging out with the locals and talking to them and
Speaker 1: doing real field work. Like there's actually a rash of
Speaker 1: dead animals going on right now, Like there's a dead cow, deer, cat,
Speaker 1: like a whole string of the string of animals that
Speaker 1: have been found up there just like that have been
Speaker 1: found in really disturbing ways, you know, unnatural kind of deaths.
Speaker 1: And so I've been up there investigating that and along
Speaker 1: with that a lot of you know, staying up all
Speaker 1: night to try and look for UFOs because we're right
Speaker 1: up there in the territory where a lot of that happens.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just working with all of that, and then
Speaker 1: recently with the guys, some of the guys from Skywatcher,
Speaker 1: the team that summons UFOs for the government on government
Speaker 1: contracts and stuff and does that professionally. So some of
Speaker 1: them are coming out wanting to be more public. They
Speaker 1: want to help like starting their own YouTube channels and
Speaker 1: learning how to do all that. So they've been partnering
Speaker 1: up with me on the side and kind of going
Speaker 1: out and coming to some of my spots and doing
Speaker 1: it with me.
Speaker 6: So that's been pretty cool, very validating too. What is
Speaker 6: some of the ways that you know up to summon
Speaker 6: these UFOs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's there's a combination of methods. Like the
Speaker 1: Skywatcher team itself, they have developed a system that combines
Speaker 1: consciousness and like projected telepathy along with technology, and they
Speaker 1: have a piece of radar equipment that they call they've
Speaker 1: nicknamed the dog Whistle, and basically it's a like a
Speaker 1: projected radar system that they can point at the sky
Speaker 1: and modulate the frequencies of the radar and they can
Speaker 1: get certain results with that where they basically can call
Speaker 1: in these identified craft or object to appear over the
Speaker 1: mountains or come down in the sky, and then the
Speaker 1: team of psionics is what they call them, are the
Speaker 1: people that do telepathy. They use consciousness and they use
Speaker 1: meditations and different methods of consciousness in order to basically
Speaker 1: interface with that craft once it appears and then communicate
Speaker 1: with it. And the theory is and the ideas that
Speaker 1: the psionics team is able to use their telepathic abilities
Speaker 1: to sort of hijack the controls of the craft since
Speaker 1: it's piloted by consciousness itself anyways, and you can kind
Speaker 1: of land the craft or bring it down and then
Speaker 1: it's available for study or for capture by these organizations
Speaker 1: or whatever. So the methods are like the combination of
Speaker 1: the technology using the radar equipment or the modulated sound
Speaker 1: frequencies and tones along with the psionics. But part of
Speaker 1: the reason that the team from Skywatchers coming out and
Speaker 1: working with me is because we're on this path to
Speaker 1: be like, we don't need a dog whistle, we don't
Speaker 1: need anything. We think that we can be successful with
Speaker 1: this at the highest level just using intentions and using
Speaker 1: the formula that we've developed, which is connecting directly with
Speaker 1: the ancient methods. And the reason these guys from Skywatcher
Speaker 1: are coming out to work with me to do psionics.
Speaker 1: Is because during these incidents where they've had what you
Speaker 1: would call a landing, like a craft actually comes down
Speaker 1: or an object comes down and lands on the ground
Speaker 1: in front of officials, some of the entities that they've
Speaker 1: encountered and the things that they've seen are reflected in
Speaker 1: the ancient petroglyphs and the carvings that I go and
Speaker 1: study in these ancient sites. So part of the telepathy
Speaker 1: and the psionics is how can we find this balance
Speaker 1: between the environment of where you're at, the technology and
Speaker 1: the human element of conscient and get the right combination
Speaker 1: to get the UAP to get closer and closer and
Speaker 1: get the proof. So that's kind of yeah, what we've
Speaker 1: been doing. But there's a lot of different nuances if
Speaker 1: we wanted to get into like how psionics works, how
Speaker 1: the telepathy works, and the different methods and like what
Speaker 1: you actually do within the mind, I mean, we can
Speaker 1: go all into that.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm ready to. I'm already step ahead of
Speaker 6: you because I was just thinking, you know, the basic
Speaker 6: way to you know, the easiest way to explain that
Speaker 6: is just how you know, people use frequencies to meditate today,
Speaker 6: you know, through the four thirty two hertz and all
Speaker 6: that other stuff. You know, they use different frequencies to
Speaker 6: meditate and stuff like that, and then when they meditate,
Speaker 6: they see these you know, visions and that's what that's
Speaker 6: what I want to call them visions, and they were
Speaker 6: able to do things within those visions and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's that's how I see it with frequencies,
Speaker 6: you know when you say the word frequency at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, like psionics and the and the
Speaker 1: way that a lot of it works is if you visualize.
Speaker 1: You know, some people are not as good as visualizing
Speaker 1: things in their mind, you know, like having an imagination
Speaker 1: and being able to hold that imagination like a vision
Speaker 1: in your mind, like you just subscribed. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: kind of works in a similar way where yeah, you're
Speaker 1: out in an ancient location, you're sitting on the hilltop
Speaker 1: with your friends there, and then you all kind of
Speaker 1: get synchronized in the right mindset, and it all starts
Speaker 1: with your intentions, like your subconscious reasons of why you're
Speaker 1: even there. You better make sure that those are in check.
Speaker 1: You better make sure that everybody in the group is
Speaker 1: like getting along and has a good relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: like very fundamental things just about your own attitude and stuff.
Speaker 1: But then when you start to go up through that
Speaker 1: process of meditation and self awareness, Yeah, then it becomes
Speaker 1: almost like a holographic overlay in the mind where you're
Speaker 1: sitting on the hilltop and you're looking up at the sky,
Speaker 1: but inside your mind you're also visualizing these holographic connections
Speaker 1: or this other connection to reality, or like a beam
Speaker 1: of light going into the sky, or these quantum abilities
Speaker 1: or connections and things. And yeah, sometimes they appear like
Speaker 1: a vision, or sometimes there's something that you just control
Speaker 1: and point in a certain way. And yeah, the idea
Speaker 1: is you get the group kind of all on the
Speaker 1: same page, and then suddenly there's a response and there's
Speaker 1: a reaction to that. Almost like just like you would
Speaker 1: go bird calling and you would get good at getting
Speaker 1: the birds to come closer and closer. We're kind of
Speaker 1: doing the same thing through meditation and consciousness when we
Speaker 1: go out to these sites and do the skywatching.
Speaker 5: So, Carl, this kind of begs the question, is this
Speaker 5: a natural phenomena? Is this manifesting because of the participants,
Speaker 5: or is there some interaction that creates, you know, kind
Speaker 5: of a harmonic state or a harmonic resonance that then
Speaker 5: produces this phenomena. Is is it alien at all? Or
Speaker 5: is it native to this earth? So much more native that,
Speaker 5: you know, we can't even possibly imagine how old it is.
Speaker 1: I tend to think that it's more like the latter
Speaker 1: what you said. I think it's a lot more native.
Speaker 1: I mean, so much so that it's hard to fathom.
Speaker 1: I've tried to write a couple of books about it,
Speaker 1: in little small books, and do videos about it, but
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to explain where these things are coming from,
Speaker 1: you know, because you we're everything that we do is
Speaker 1: based on physics and the laws of physics and looking
Speaker 1: and experiencing physical reality. And when you start to talk
Speaker 1: about these non physical energies, non physical dimensions and all that,
Speaker 1: those rules don't necessarily apply when you're talking about consciousness
Speaker 1: and thought and the mind and the fundamental substrates of
Speaker 1: the universe, you know, like when you get beneath the
Speaker 1: molecules and the atoms and the quarks and the very
Speaker 1: energetic fabric of reality, what's back in there and what
Speaker 1: is there? Is there another side. Is there another dimension
Speaker 1: beyond that or is everything actually manifesting out of that space?
Speaker 1: Because that emptiness of what we think is a nothing,
Speaker 1: like the nothingness of empty space, is actually made of
Speaker 1: pure consciousness and pure potential and pure creativity, and that
Speaker 1: everything is springing up from that from that, what we
Speaker 1: think is nothing is actually pure potential. And when you connect, you.
Speaker 5: Know how depressing that that thought is. Because the reason
Speaker 5: the phenomena changes, according to what Jacques Valet has said
Speaker 5: and many others, is because the changes in our consciousness
Speaker 5: are projecting out, so all of the terrifying factors of
Speaker 5: this phenomena are coming through us conscious us.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So imagine if you're like a security guard an
Speaker 1: ancient Native American location and you're walking around at night,
Speaker 1: and there's a magical energy to that place connected to
Speaker 1: the universe somehow that we don't understand. But when you
Speaker 1: walk through that area, it's able to take your own
Speaker 1: subconscious thoughts and your own fears, your own self doubts,
Speaker 1: and it takes those feelings that you have, like your
Speaker 1: own inner doubts and things and fears, and suddenly forms
Speaker 1: that into an appearance that you see walking towards you
Speaker 1: through the trees, and you all of a sudden are
Speaker 1: looking into this mirror like directly that's coming right out
Speaker 1: of the universe and right out of the darkness. And
Speaker 1: to you it might completely look like a skin walker
Speaker 1: or the Boogeyman or some kind of a ghoule. You
Speaker 1: know that you wouldn't have any idea what it is.
Speaker 1: But really you're steering into the core fabric of reality,
Speaker 1: which is actually made of us as the looker, as
Speaker 1: the observer, and ultimately you realize everything that's happening in
Speaker 1: reality comes from the observer effect, and that we're actually
Speaker 1: the cause of it, and we're yeah, but we all
Speaker 1: think that we're in it and we're trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out, and it's all inside out, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like being in a dream and not realizing that
Speaker 1: you're in a dream and really believing that everything out
Speaker 1: there is not made of you, right when really in
Speaker 1: the dream, everything is made out of yourself.
Speaker 5: Really, it's like trying to infuse. It's trying to fuse
Speaker 5: that big comic you know, bomb, right, but that bomb's
Speaker 5: actually made out of you, and you created the bomb
Speaker 5: that that's now about to explode in your face, try
Speaker 5: to confuse what's essentially just made out of your stuff exactly.
Speaker 5: What's interesting on that level is the hero's journey, right,
Speaker 5: So all of these ancient shamanic cultures had this idea
Speaker 5: of overcoming these obstacles as they presented themselves to you
Speaker 5: in much, you know, horrific ways, and showing how the
Speaker 5: soul can overcome that through you know, certain virtues and
Speaker 5: certain practices and all the rest of this stuff. And
Speaker 5: we sort of leave that behind because we think, oh,
Speaker 5: that's agent stuff. They're talking about crazy hallucinations or something.
Speaker 5: But really it's the same stuff that we're dealing with today,
Speaker 5: just showing in a different light, a different perspective, a
Speaker 5: different subconscious manifestation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, noured out, Yeah, go ahead, Tyn. I was going
Speaker 6: to say, hey, listen, I don't think we're trying to
Speaker 6: figure it out. I think is we have more words
Speaker 6: to explain it today than we did before. You know,
Speaker 6: before they didn't really have that many words, and one
Speaker 6: word meant many different things, and that's why there's so
Speaker 6: much confusion.
Speaker 1: I think the figuring part, Yeah, I think I have
Speaker 1: to agree.
Speaker 6: With you a little bit on that, because the figuring
Speaker 6: part is how to use those words in the explanation
Speaker 6: of what you've seen.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, that does make a little Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do like that.
Speaker 3: I do like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what I mean figuring out too, is
Speaker 1: I think that as a society we've lost touch with
Speaker 1: it a little bit unnaturally. And it's not even really
Speaker 1: our fault. I think just as a civilization, we've evolved,
Speaker 1: and now we've got all these cities and high rises
Speaker 1: and buildings, and we're living and sitting in offices and
Speaker 1: staring at computers and our phones all day, and that's
Speaker 1: just like.
Speaker 2: We've got to sacrifice lambs and shit.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, we're talking about you know, thousands
Speaker 1: of years before us, where everybody was literally just outside
Speaker 1: looking at the sky, you know, and connected to this
Speaker 1: and it was just their way of life. And so
Speaker 1: I just feel like we've kind of drifted away from
Speaker 1: a sense of connection and awareness. That is, once you
Speaker 1: get back out to these sites and start going out
Speaker 1: into nature and paying attention and meditating, then you immediately
Speaker 1: reconnect with it. And that's why there's a million different
Speaker 1: religions around the world, all based off of those experiences
Speaker 1: where a guy goes up on the mountain alone, sits
Speaker 1: there for a few days, has a huge epiphany, talks
Speaker 1: to God and comes down with this wisdom, and then
Speaker 1: a whole religion is built off of that. But there's
Speaker 1: nothing that says, yeah, we all can do that, like
Speaker 1: and we just forget that. We can get out of
Speaker 1: the city, go up in the mountains and sit there,
Speaker 1: sit and meditate, and the universe will show up for you.
Speaker 6: It really will see a lot of people forget that.
Speaker 6: You don't have to sit on your ass to meditate.
Speaker 6: You can literally go hiking and meditate while you're walking crazy.
Speaker 6: To meditate, you just have to find the one that
Speaker 6: works for you. You know, they got they have the
Speaker 6: basic ones and the ones that probably work, you know,
Speaker 6: the strongest and the best. But then they also have
Speaker 6: ones where you know, somebody can't sit down. You know,
Speaker 6: somebody might have a back problem or and ask problem,
Speaker 6: or somebody they can't sit down, you know, saying they
Speaker 6: might have to get up or walk if they if
Speaker 6: they sit in one spot too on they go to sleep.
Speaker 6: So if they go on a walk, they can listen
Speaker 6: to the It is what you focus on when you're meditating.
Speaker 1: Nature that is.
Speaker 5: Literal nature is literal medicine. Going out in the sun
Speaker 5: helps heal our bodies. So I mean thinking of going
Speaker 5: into nature is actually just reconnecting with that medicine that's
Speaker 5: free everywhere all the time.
Speaker 1: Right, do what shaman do.
Speaker 6: Take off your damn shoes when you walk in through
Speaker 6: the woods and ground you know what I mean, that's
Speaker 6: what you're supposed to be do people put the rubber
Speaker 6: between the grounding effect. You know, there's you know, when
Speaker 6: you when you go do something, you have to go
Speaker 6: all in. You can't just go half ass. And that's
Speaker 6: why a lot of times a lot of people fail
Speaker 6: those visual quests that they're looking for because they're going
Speaker 6: half ass in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's also something that happens to you just
Speaker 1: in the act of making the attempt saying, like when
Speaker 1: you make the decision and you get up and you say,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go out, I'm going to go on
Speaker 1: them out and I'm going to try and connect or
Speaker 1: I want to reconnect to nature or whatever. Just even
Speaker 1: as you start doing that, that process opens up your
Speaker 1: mind and you begin to see and listen and to
Speaker 1: feel and all of that sort of opens up your
Speaker 1: consciousness like a flower. And the more that you do
Speaker 1: that and go out and look at the stars, you know,
Speaker 1: if you take off your shoes or you take meditation,
Speaker 1: ball or do whatever whatever you like to do. The
Speaker 1: whole idea is just to get your intentions and your
Speaker 1: attitude and your mood and the spirit whatever makes you
Speaker 1: feel good. Ultimately, like when I was working with the
Speaker 1: Skywatcher guys, my whole attitude was like, well, what's your secret?
Speaker 1: Is there a method that you do? You do this
Speaker 1: before that, do you say this to yourself, like what's
Speaker 1: the whole process? And ultimately the big secret is you
Speaker 1: can't overthink it. Like the whole idea is to get
Speaker 1: up in the mountains, to get around a couple of
Speaker 1: good people and just like really expect that something's going
Speaker 1: to show up. And if you have the right intentions
Speaker 1: and the right group of people around and you go
Speaker 1: out with the attitude that it's going to happen, then
Speaker 1: it does. It actually does. And that's been the case.
Speaker 1: And the more you try to fiddle with it, like
Speaker 1: it's some kind of a thing where you can if
Speaker 1: I do it this way, or if I tune it
Speaker 1: up this way, or do it that way, it's almost
Speaker 1: like you get farther and far away from it. Like
Speaker 1: if you're an athlete and you're to get really good
Speaker 1: at being accurate, like at hitting the target. The more
Speaker 1: you start getting in your head and trying to think
Speaker 1: about how to do it, the more you're gonna get
Speaker 1: screwed up and the more you're gonna miss. You have
Speaker 1: to let go and get in a flow state and
Speaker 1: just realize that this is amazing and it hits the bullseye.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to really trust and so a
Speaker 1: lot of it comes down to that is like just
Speaker 1: being with the right people and going out and just
Speaker 1: trusting that like this is gonna work.
Speaker 6: You know, that's the most important part, being with the
Speaker 6: right people. But being with the right people, I like
Speaker 6: to expand on that doesn't mean that you have to
Speaker 6: be around people that like you or you like, because
Speaker 6: part of what makes who you are is being around
Speaker 6: the stuff that you don't like, so that way you
Speaker 6: can better understand the world around you. If you surround
Speaker 6: yourself around people that you like and that you agrees
Speaker 6: with everything that you're saying, you agree with them, then
Speaker 6: you just putting yourself in a bad state because you're
Speaker 6: never going to get out of that, you know.
Speaker 2: Outside of that box.
Speaker 6: So I mean, but you have to also be able
Speaker 6: to learn how to be able to be cordial with people.
Speaker 6: You have to be able to understand and talk to individuals.
Speaker 6: So when you say being around to good people, that
Speaker 6: doesn't to me, that just doesn't mean being around people
Speaker 6: that like me or anything like that. I have to
Speaker 6: have me some people around that dislike me, because it
Speaker 6: will ground you. It's like that, it's the positive and
Speaker 6: negative effect. You know, you can't have a positive effect
Speaker 6: without ative negative. You know what I'm saying. That's just
Speaker 6: what it is, agreed.
Speaker 1: I just mean I'm referencing that as far as like,
Speaker 1: if we were going to go as a group, it
Speaker 1: would definitely be a drawback on the experience if one
Speaker 1: person was there the whole time being like this is bullshit,
Speaker 1: This isn't going to work. You guys are stupid. Like
Speaker 1: make sure you bring people that are like cool with
Speaker 1: what you're doing and kind of expect it to happen,
Speaker 1: you know, Like, but yeah, you don't have to like everybody,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I gave to this conclusion a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5: The fundamental polarity within the entire universe is tension and release. Right,
Speaker 5: So when you're all manifesting that same intention, that's where
Speaker 5: you're getting the ten and then when it finally gets
Speaker 5: magnetically attracted to you through that tension, through all that
Speaker 5: one sort of way of thought, that becomes the release.
Speaker 5: So you've got to have the the goals and the
Speaker 5: and the tension lined up in that regards, and you've
Speaker 5: got kinetic and potential energy. It's all tension and release.
Speaker 5: So that's that's part of existing and manifesting that a
Speaker 5: lot of people are kind of missing out on this
Speaker 5: primary polarities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Yeah good.
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you, Carl, because you had you
Speaker 6: brought up a perfect point when when I said what
Speaker 6: I said, you said, uh, you know the person that's
Speaker 6: around you that's being negative the whole time? How do
Speaker 6: you handle people that are negative towards the work that
Speaker 6: you are doing? Like, how do you because I know
Speaker 6: there was stages to where you was at now it
Speaker 6: wasn't you know, you learned something new upon what somebody
Speaker 6: had you know, brought to your attention on a negative
Speaker 6: type of way, So how did you handle that?
Speaker 2: And how do you still handle that today?
Speaker 1: Well, when it comes to like the group that I
Speaker 1: take out in the field with me, I make sure
Speaker 1: that yeah, like the people that are going I'm uh
Speaker 1: talking to, that they kind of understand what's going on
Speaker 1: and that they're into the idea, that they actually agree
Speaker 1: that it works and that it's effective, and that they're
Speaker 1: that we're going to be successful. You know. So we
Speaker 1: all have the same goals, but when they when somebody
Speaker 1: is like negative, usually I only get that like online,
Speaker 1: I've I've never had anybody have the guts, I guess
Speaker 1: to come up to my face and tell.
Speaker 6: Me, yeah, it never never to manm key keyboy warriors. Man,
Speaker 6: I've been in enough spaces to know that shit, it's all.
Speaker 1: On Twitter, it's all on X and my at. I
Speaker 1: always push back myself, like I if I know better,
Speaker 1: Like if somebody's trying to dig into my friends or
Speaker 1: they're trying to belittle what we're doing or say that
Speaker 1: it's fake or whatever, I try to use like logic
Speaker 1: and common sense and I'll I'll push back and hold
Speaker 1: my ground and that can look like an r argument.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times, like I was just in
Speaker 1: one for a couple of hours yesterday with a group
Speaker 1: of people. You know, they were calling my psionic friends grifters,
Speaker 1: you know, because they were trying to start a Patreon
Speaker 1: page and things take care of their families, and so
Speaker 1: I kind of stuck up for my friends. I'm like
Speaker 1: arguing with some of these people, and by the end
Speaker 1: of it, like everybody's quiet, and I'm kind of like,
Speaker 1: where did everybody go? You know, it's when you finally
Speaker 1: actually step up and you engage in the discussion, they
Speaker 1: they realize they're just kind of jealous, or they're mad
Speaker 1: about what you're doing that they didn't get to go,
Speaker 1: or they're just they're just mad because they want more
Speaker 1: proof and you haven't brought it yet, so they're being impatient.
Speaker 1: And it's always never what they're really mad about or
Speaker 1: what they seem like they're acting mad about. But if
Speaker 1: they're really obnoxious and they just won't quit, then I
Speaker 1: kind of treat it like on the internet, my YouTube
Speaker 1: channel and my pages, I'm trying to culture a certain
Speaker 1: kind of atmosphere where people feel safe as experiencers. So
Speaker 1: if people are in there really disrupt, not just like
Speaker 1: I would my own property, I'll kick them off my property,
Speaker 1: so I'll block people and not have a problem. If
Speaker 1: they were at my house through my front yard yelling
Speaker 1: at me, I would kick them out of here too.
Speaker 1: If they were coming into my chat room when we're
Speaker 1: all doing a live stream together and somebody's trolling, I
Speaker 1: don't have many problems blocking those people either, because you know,
Speaker 1: I just want to It's not that everybody has to
Speaker 1: like me. I'm fine with criticism. I'm fine with people
Speaker 1: telling me they want me to do different stuff. But
Speaker 1: if they're obviously just there trying to throw a wrench
Speaker 1: in the gears and ruin the ruin the vibe, then
Speaker 1: I'll kick them out.
Speaker 6: It took me a while to learn how to do
Speaker 6: that shit because I used to be in this Twitter
Speaker 6: spaces with you, bro. I used to go back and
Speaker 6: forth with people all the time, and I ain't even lie.
Speaker 6: I used to consider a Jerry Springer bro, because I
Speaker 6: felt like social media, like Twitter and Facebook, I don't
Speaker 6: think people are really serious because, like you said that,
Speaker 6: nobody ever approached you face to face, and you know
Speaker 6: that's a whole different vibe. But the reason why I
Speaker 6: asked you that is because you know, social media is
Speaker 6: really the cornerstone of getting information out there. And sometimes
Speaker 6: you just have to break that idiot. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like you have to break them, Like I mean,
Speaker 6: it is what it is. I know a lot of
Speaker 6: times I've been in a.
Speaker 2: Lot of spaces with you.
Speaker 6: I know you shared a lot of stuff when I
Speaker 6: hear people talking back and forth and you know, I've
Speaker 6: been down that roller coaster and stuff like that. But
Speaker 6: the thing is is that you are asking people to
Speaker 6: do their own research. That's what I get from you.
Speaker 6: Like you said you've done you mean, you say you
Speaker 6: do your go through the miss you know, your boots
Speaker 6: on ground. I always talk about anybody that's boots on
Speaker 6: ground on anything, you can't tell them anything different. I
Speaker 6: mean a person's their world. What are you doing send
Speaker 6: behind the computer? Yeah, I mean maybe you have a
Speaker 6: disability where you can't go out on the field, and
Speaker 6: that's fine, but you can't judge somebody who's out there
Speaker 6: doing it. Maybe you should as an individual. It should
Speaker 6: touch bases with people like you who are you know,
Speaker 6: boots on the ground. You know filming this stuff. And
Speaker 6: I also know when it comes to filming, is that
Speaker 6: you have to cut out a lot of stuff, and
Speaker 6: then there's a lot of you know, executive points and
Speaker 6: people with their own you know, ideas, and you have
Speaker 6: investors and all that stuff that you can't really control.
Speaker 2: So how do you go about doing things with raw.
Speaker 6: Information where you're like, hey, I don't want anybody involved, but.
Speaker 2: Just me, my camera and myself.
Speaker 1: That's mainly how I roll. I mean, I'm almost ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time choose on purpose for that
Speaker 1: reason to go along and choose to take my own
Speaker 1: equipment and don't borrow anything from anybody, don't use anybody
Speaker 1: else's gear or cameras. Like I'm always using my night vision,
Speaker 1: my camera and my stuff so that nobody can be like,
Speaker 1: oh this is mine and not yours, or nobody can.
Speaker 1: I don't have a boss, I don't have anybody telling
Speaker 1: me what to do or where to go or anything
Speaker 1: like that, and so I try to try to go
Speaker 1: like like Ronan or whatever, the lone guy that goes
Speaker 1: on his own, you know. And so yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: I get around that. Like if I get into a
Speaker 1: situation where I'm like, Okay, what we're doing here on
Speaker 1: this project needs to get into a big or field
Speaker 1: of view, like we should try to get this on
Speaker 1: a TV show, get somebody in here to make a documentary.
Speaker 1: We need a bigger network to bring in some funding
Speaker 1: to do a big project here. Then it gets dangerous
Speaker 1: because you have to cross the red tape. There's no
Speaker 1: way around it. You've got to sign NDA's, you have
Speaker 1: to sign contracts, You got to go get into bed
Speaker 1: with these big networks and stuff who want to who
Speaker 1: have no idea who you are, and they don't care,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're dealing with people like you, one
Speaker 1: hundred of you a day, and all these lawyers come
Speaker 1: in and are involved, and they don't care about your
Speaker 1: intentions or what you're trying to do or whether it's
Speaker 1: real or not. They're just making a show and worried
Speaker 1: about the liability. That's when it's challenging. And when I
Speaker 1: face those situations, which I have several times, I same
Speaker 1: thing as the trolls. I dig my feet in every time,
Speaker 1: and I say every time that they have to put
Speaker 1: in the contract certain terms like that they're not allowed
Speaker 1: to script anything. I'm not going to fake anything. If
Speaker 1: they want to do re enactments, it has to be
Speaker 1: literally right after it happened just because we didn't catch
Speaker 1: it or there was a mistake. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: go back and refilm something that happened a year ago.
Speaker 1: I put all of that, and then I even make
Speaker 1: them agree that I'm allowed to film with my cameras
Speaker 1: anything that I want while they're there. And I mean,
Speaker 1: they hate that every time because it's like I could
Speaker 1: expose them as a fake or whatever, for lying or
Speaker 1: for hoaxing or whatever. But I make them put that
Speaker 1: in the contract otherwise we don't do the show. And
Speaker 1: I've been able to do three different shows that way
Speaker 1: so far with three different or yeah, three different networks now,
Speaker 1: and so far it goes okay. But they hate it
Speaker 1: every time because they just want you to sign on
Speaker 1: the dotted line and have no control over anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to know what you're going People don't
Speaker 5: even know that that would that would be a thing.
Speaker 5: But you've been in the business long enough to where
Speaker 5: it's like you've got to be able to film everything.
Speaker 5: You never know what they're going to try it both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole point is we've been working for two
Speaker 1: years on this spot. We're like this close to like
Speaker 1: maybe digging open a tunnel entrance to get in where
Speaker 1: there's a buried UFO, maybe underground. So now this whole
Speaker 1: team shows up with all the money, with the tractor,
Speaker 1: with the drill, with the drones, with the equipment, and
Speaker 1: the last thing you want to have happen is to
Speaker 1: lose total control over the research and the findings and
Speaker 1: you actually film something or make a discovery and this
Speaker 1: giant corporation that came in that took over everything now
Speaker 1: has all the power and they take all your footage.
Speaker 1: They have control over the whole story, and then they
Speaker 1: got you to sign an NDA and you're screwed. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you found a UFO or not. You
Speaker 1: can't say anything. You're going to jail, like where you're
Speaker 1: getting sued for everything. So you have to know that
Speaker 1: game that you're playing up front and when you start
Speaker 1: going down that path so that you can set everything up.
Speaker 1: Which is why some of the guys from the Skywatcher
Speaker 1: team are wanting to come out and work with me
Speaker 1: and do stuff because they realize, now, oh, if you
Speaker 1: don't have your own YouTube channel, your own Patreon and
Speaker 1: your own Instagram and all that stuff, and you're not
Speaker 1: regularly capturing and putting out your own content. Then these
Speaker 1: other corporations and agencies will just come in to your
Speaker 1: projects and take everything and you have nothing to say,
Speaker 1: no evidence to show for your stories or nothing. So
Speaker 1: if you don't cover your ass on the paperwork side
Speaker 1: and on the legal side, when you get into teams
Speaker 1: and organizations or working with contracts, you're going to it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you find anything or not, You're never
Speaker 1: going to be able to tell anybody.
Speaker 5: And that seems to be the way that they would operate.
Speaker 5: You know, it's right out in the open, but then
Speaker 5: as soon as they find something, oh, now we go
Speaker 5: into a completely different mode.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons why a lot certain
Speaker 1: people really like me because they want that advantage going
Speaker 1: in like I work at Thunderstrike Ran because the owners
Speaker 1: of the property, the guys from the Skywatcher team, and
Speaker 1: everybody that I work with, we all want that independence
Speaker 1: to where we don't have anybody that can tell us
Speaker 1: now and if we catch something on footage, like if
Speaker 1: we actually land a UFO and get the evidence, then
Speaker 1: we could upload it that night and nobody could stop us.
Speaker 1: We could upload the footage and the pictures and everything
Speaker 1: and nobody could come and seize it. Nobody could tell
Speaker 1: us we have to wait for a year or any
Speaker 1: of that. And the reason that we're all pushing in
Speaker 1: that direction is because a lot of guys inside the program,
Speaker 1: that's what they're experiencing. As soon as they're successful on
Speaker 1: a job, the whole thing gets swept under the rug,
Speaker 1: taken away, They lose their equipment, the boss gets scooped
Speaker 1: up and promoted, and now the whole team's like left
Speaker 1: wondering what they're going to do, and they don't have
Speaker 1: anywhere to go, and they're just left standing there. So like,
Speaker 1: you know, what do you do? You got to go
Speaker 1: land another UFO and you got to do it on
Speaker 1: your own terms. So that's where we're at.
Speaker 5: That sounds promising. If these are that we're engaged with
Speaker 5: the Jake Barber incident, then I mean, what do you know?
Speaker 5: I mean you might have similar results? Is that sort
Speaker 5: of the direction we're going here? Is another Jake Barber
Speaker 5: without the uh, you know, requisite government involvement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exact same thing, exact same protocol. We're saying, how
Speaker 1: much can we strip out, how much red tape can
Speaker 1: we remove? How little can we do it with. Can
Speaker 1: we literally just take three guys and some good night
Speaker 1: vision and go stand on a hilltop in the right
Speaker 1: spot and do this with nothing else? How how minuscule
Speaker 1: or minimalistic? Can we do this and bring home the bacon?
Speaker 1: You know? And so we're doing that, I mean we
Speaker 1: we went up and did our first test run where
Speaker 1: me and Mike Batista. He's a US Special Operation Operations guy,
Speaker 1: he's a retired Green Beret, but he's the lead psionic
Speaker 1: for Skywatcher, and he flew out and worked with me
Speaker 1: up around Skinwalker Ranch for about a week, just a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. And yeah, we did psionics three
Speaker 1: different nights up there, and we filmed eighty minutes of
Speaker 1: what I would consider like very good UAP activity and
Speaker 1: footage where you know, it's nothing like a giant craft
Speaker 1: with a bunch of details where you see entities or
Speaker 1: anything like that, but definitely a lot like eighty minutes
Speaker 1: of totally weird UFO behavior in the sky, lots of it,
Speaker 1: I mean, more than I've ever seen in just one night.
Speaker 5: Is there psionic training under any sort of classification or
Speaker 5: is this like available to the public if people were
Speaker 5: interested in looking it up.
Speaker 1: That's part of why they're coming out as the two
Speaker 1: guys that I'm working with on the side are all
Speaker 1: independently like trying to write their own psionic field manuals
Speaker 1: and stuff, because it's not like when they joined Skywatcher
Speaker 1: there was anything already written or like they had any training.
Speaker 1: They were like selected for their abilities or for their
Speaker 1: talents that were that were seen out in the field
Speaker 1: and recruited, so like they were kind of picked, handpicked
Speaker 1: and brought into that without any training and just kind
Speaker 1: of like expected to figure it out. And so now
Speaker 1: that they've been successful, these psionic guys are all both
Speaker 1: of them are writing their psionic field manuals about like
Speaker 1: the protocol of how they do it step by step
Speaker 1: from literally packing your backpack before you leave to what
Speaker 1: you do when you're there, how you write the field
Speaker 1: reports and all of that. I've seen rough and.
Speaker 5: The DASH twenty manuals on the way, because that's yeah,
Speaker 5: I've seens Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've seen rough drafts of them. Yeah, both of them
Speaker 1: are writing them, and then they might combine them and
Speaker 1: then I mean we're talking, we just form what we're
Speaker 1: calling the The acronym is UAP but it's the United
Speaker 1: Alliance of Psionics. So we're trying to have like an
Speaker 1: alliance of people with psionic abilities and find a way
Speaker 1: to recruit more people with psionic abilities and then create
Speaker 1: like a not really an online school, but yeah, like
Speaker 1: a way for people to start to tap into their
Speaker 1: own abilities and unlock them in that way. It's kind
Speaker 1: of just like, you know, anybody can do it, right,
Speaker 1: like anybody can have everybody has psionic abilities. But that's
Speaker 1: kind of like saying, yeah, we can all go tonight
Speaker 1: and seeing karaoke together, but that does not mean that
Speaker 1: everyone can be a professional singer. That does take years
Speaker 1: and years of doing it and going out and connecting
Speaker 1: with the phenomena. So there's definitely like levels to this.
Speaker 1: Even though I definitely anybody could go out and do
Speaker 1: it tonight if you just if you went outside and tried,
Speaker 1: but I think being able to go out and confidently say,
Speaker 1: you know, we can bring people from the government and
Speaker 1: NASA and I can do this whenever I want. That's
Speaker 1: the level of people that I'm currently working with and
Speaker 1: trying to work with.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 6: Well, shit, you said something that was interesting. You said,
Speaker 6: the government knows this right. So why do you think
Speaker 6: people go around and say that the government is trying
Speaker 6: to figure it out like we are, or why do
Speaker 6: you think the government is trying to hide it?
Speaker 1: Well, I think they know that it's going on, but
Speaker 1: they still have no clue. Like that fundamental question we
Speaker 1: asked at the beginning, where are they coming from? How
Speaker 1: do they get here? Like we can't even explain how
Speaker 1: they're coming right out of the ground, out of nothing,
Speaker 1: and then they're a solid object that we can go
Speaker 1: touch or odo you said ground, Yeah, right out of
Speaker 1: the mountain.
Speaker 6: Ye see, I'm glad you said that because that means
Speaker 6: they're inter terrestrial and not extra terrestrial, right yeah, which, yeah,
Speaker 6: a lot of people know that when we talk about uh,
Speaker 6: you know, UFOs or orbs or anything like that. There's
Speaker 6: an association with the Nuna slash the Ananaki. Now, when
Speaker 6: you actually read the text from the Nuna slash Ananaki,
Speaker 6: the actual cunoform tablats themselves. They say they came from
Speaker 6: the depths of the seas, but their gods resided on
Speaker 6: the top of the mountains. So that when you say
Speaker 6: stuff like that, and I hear other people say stuff
Speaker 6: like that about more interterrestrial versus extraterrestrial. Why do you
Speaker 6: think the head there's more thoughts geared towards the extraterrestrial
Speaker 6: rather than the interterrestrial, when there's more evidence for it
Speaker 6: being here on planet Earth than anywhere else, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I don't know. I think I think that a
Speaker 1: lot of the that is due to just like when
Speaker 1: people actually see it the phenomena and they notice it,
Speaker 1: generally speaking, it's a light up in the sky or
Speaker 1: a big phenomena that's floating up in the air, and
Speaker 1: they maybe didn't see or they weren't even looking where
Speaker 1: it came from, and they never got to witness where
Speaker 1: it went and where it returns to. So when they
Speaker 1: see it in the sky, or they might see it
Speaker 1: float up above the clouds or shoot up into space,
Speaker 1: they assume it must be extraterrestrials from another planet or
Speaker 1: from outer space, because we don't know what's up there,
Speaker 1: you know, And the assumption is that we know everything
Speaker 1: on the Earth, we know what's in every cave and
Speaker 1: every mountain and every canyon. I can one hundred percent
Speaker 1: tell you that is not the case. Like I have
Speaker 1: personally been hiking back in canyons that you would think that, oh,
Speaker 1: everybody would know what was up here, And I've found
Speaker 1: stuff that nobody had a clue was there before, So
Speaker 1: I mean anything is possible. Every single Native American and
Speaker 1: indigenous culture their origins talk about not only the star
Speaker 1: people and how people people come down from the stars
Speaker 1: or from the skies and go up to the heavens,
Speaker 1: but they all talk about the ant people and the
Speaker 1: underworld people just as much like these entities coming up
Speaker 1: from the underworld. In fact, most of the ancient locations
Speaker 1: that I go to have a lot of stone ritual
Speaker 1: circles from indigenous people where they would put stone circles
Speaker 1: or pathways or like monolithic stones and things, And that
Speaker 1: almost ties into these ancient esoteric cultures that believe in
Speaker 1: like fairies and the fay, and like like goblins and
Speaker 1: trolls that will come up out of fairy rings, like
Speaker 1: right out of the ground, like you hear in Irish
Speaker 1: folklore and stuff about like leprechauns will just come out
Speaker 1: of a ring of mushrooms and pop out of the
Speaker 1: ground and run around. And you hear all those stories
Speaker 1: and they sound crazy. But when you tie all of
Speaker 1: those ancient myths in and those ancient legends in with
Speaker 1: actual UAP stories and especially abduction stories where people claim
Speaker 1: they've been taken by entities. That overlap is to me
Speaker 1: is very clear. People a lot of times, as much
Speaker 1: as they are seen, like they think they're flying through
Speaker 1: space on a spaceship, a lot of times find themselves
Speaker 1: in some kind of a weird environment or an underworld,
Speaker 1: or they believe that they're down in some kind of
Speaker 1: upside down, you know, like a different dimension that's more
Speaker 1: like in the basement than the sky. So it's all there,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a little bit of both. But
Speaker 1: I've seen a ton of UAP activity and we filmed
Speaker 1: a lot of it when I was with Mike Batista
Speaker 1: this last trip, and a lot of them were coming
Speaker 1: right out of the side of the mountain and then
Speaker 1: they would hover up form information and then they would
Speaker 1: and then they would go up into space, or some
Speaker 1: of them would fly in and they'd come up towards us.
Speaker 1: Then they would go and go down into the mountain.
Speaker 1: It was it was both I and they were going
Speaker 1: both ways.
Speaker 5: Some of the more interesting sighting stories I've read has
Speaker 5: been about the little people that look like space people.
Speaker 5: Coming from the Alps. So you'll have these reports of
Speaker 5: people running across you know, tiny men in silvery uniforms,
Speaker 5: and then when they take off their helmet or whatever,
Speaker 5: they look like gnomes or some of these other fairy creatures.
Speaker 5: So these are happening in the nineteen seventies in the eighties,
Speaker 5: and people are you know, some actually take pictures of
Speaker 5: these things and it's so off the wall people can
Speaker 5: hardly believe it. But yeah, it's the same sort of
Speaker 5: little green men phenomena, only in a different context, in
Speaker 5: a much more alpine region.
Speaker 1: So and again if we're oh, sorry, I cut you off,
Speaker 1: they're go ahead.
Speaker 3: No, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was just going to say, if we're go back
Speaker 1: to that initial thing, if these things are manifesting and
Speaker 1: they're drawing their form from our expectations or our subconscious,
Speaker 1: then culturally there could be a huge variety everything from
Speaker 1: space alien looking things to like goblins or trolls or
Speaker 1: werewolf looking stuff. So like, who know if it's all
Speaker 1: based off of and like imagine if reality, if you
Speaker 1: could go up an ancient canyon and back in the
Speaker 1: back of that canyon was this cosmic three D printer,
Speaker 1: and that three D printer could read your mind and
Speaker 1: it could pick something that it knew would inspire you
Speaker 1: or would frighten you, or would show you something that
Speaker 1: would unlock part of your consciousness. And as you walk
Speaker 1: up to that canyon, suddenly reality three D prints disappearance
Speaker 1: for you. It could appear as literally anything. It could
Speaker 1: appear as an object in the sky, as a creature
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then as you encounter that, you would
Speaker 1: have all kinds of random paranormal stories from the dog
Speaker 1: Man to Mothman, to the aliens to ghoules or whatever.
Speaker 1: It would really be based on your own DNA and
Speaker 1: where you're at. Energy of the place would create a
Speaker 1: whole formula that for whatever could appear. And then when
Speaker 1: you see that, how you interpret that would totally depend
Speaker 1: on your own beliefs and your own way of seeing
Speaker 1: it and encountering it. So, yeah, it's either going to
Speaker 1: appear and you're going to think it's a spaceship where
Speaker 1: you're going to think this is some kind of a
Speaker 1: strange thing that just came out of the underworld.
Speaker 5: You know, just depends by specific element to these sightings.
Speaker 5: When you take away the borders of well this is
Speaker 5: real and this is it, and you're looking at well,
Speaker 5: this is strange and this is it. Then you start
Speaker 5: to see these patterns emerging that come along with these
Speaker 5: you know, energy lay lines and all these other things
Speaker 5: that that influenced the manifestation itself exactly.
Speaker 1: So imagine like ancient cultures were naturally sort of in
Speaker 1: tune with that, and a lot of their beliefs and
Speaker 1: customs and rituals were tied up into that. And now
Speaker 1: we're looking back in history wondering, why do they build
Speaker 1: all these pyramids, why did they build all these stone
Speaker 1: lists and rings and labyrinths all over the world, and
Speaker 1: what were they doing here? And we don't have a clue,
Speaker 1: you know, But all you have to do is go
Speaker 1: out and experience it and sit in those places for
Speaker 1: a little bit and be quiet, and you'll realize what
Speaker 1: they're all about and what they were doing, because you'll
Speaker 1: you'll tap into those frequencies that are harnessed in those places,
Speaker 1: and if you if you're sensitive at all, you'll realize
Speaker 1: what they were doing there and you'll see the same
Speaker 1: things and experience it.
Speaker 4: Is aty like wild when you think now like I mean,
Speaker 4: I think I believed it when I was a kid,
Speaker 4: going back to a kid, like we thought, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: the pyramids were just to throw a couple of dead
Speaker 4: bodies in the Like you had to go through all
Speaker 4: that just to toast a couple of mummies in there. Really,
Speaker 4: Like I remember like believing that, oh shure, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Just to put the body of the king in there.
Speaker 1: And now we look at all these and people are
Speaker 1: puzzling over it, like these are giant energy capacitors or transmitters,
Speaker 1: Like they're drawing power from the ether of the universe
Speaker 1: and channeling out to the community and things, and that
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to figure out.
Speaker 3: What they are.
Speaker 1: But all of it's going to go back to relating
Speaker 1: to consciousness and how consciousness is the fundamental constructor an
Speaker 1: observer of reality, and so they're yeah, they were tapping
Speaker 1: into consciousness and reality itself and how those two things interface.
Speaker 5: I have a little saying that I always bring up
Speaker 5: as the land is the lens by which we view God,
Speaker 5: and when you think about it in terms of the
Speaker 5: phenomena and everything else, it's like, oh, well, that kind
Speaker 5: of makes sense. This is how I perceive myself through
Speaker 5: the land around me, and so our perception of that
Speaker 5: is going to then influence our perception of God, so
Speaker 5: it sort of shapes it. And you think about rural
Speaker 5: environments where you've got all the verses that they use
Speaker 5: in the preachers on Sunday mornings about sewing and reaping,
Speaker 5: you know, and that ends up shaping your reality. All
Speaker 5: the rest of this stuff sort of comes into focus
Speaker 5: as well. So there's an intense connection to the land
Speaker 5: that we have, whether we explore it or not, and
Speaker 5: that ends up shaping our reality around us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. It was obvious that in ancient times
Speaker 1: there was something going on that everyone all across the world,
Speaker 1: across the globe knew was important and was the most
Speaker 1: important thing, and they were all trying to tap into
Speaker 1: that and all trying to harness it. Doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: country you go to, they have, you know, monuments or
Speaker 1: pyramids or different structures that ancient cultures at one time
Speaker 1: appear to be trying to point towards the summer solstice
Speaker 1: and the equinoxes, and they've got these vast connections in
Speaker 1: the way they're aligned. When you actually go study it,
Speaker 1: you realize there was like a phase of really early
Speaker 1: primitive humanity that was not primitive at all, but they
Speaker 1: were tapped into this stuff like at a way higher
Speaker 1: level than we get. And they were doing it totally
Speaker 1: organic with like the earth and stone itself, you know,
Speaker 1: and now we're doing it very synthetic. Like I believe
Speaker 1: that what they were doing like in Giza or down
Speaker 1: like in the Aztec Empire, the way they were laying
Speaker 1: out those temples and tapping into the aquifers and the
Speaker 1: way the earth, the human resonance of the earth. They
Speaker 1: were basically trying to build giant computers, you know that
Speaker 1: you could go sit inside that would resonate with your
Speaker 1: consciousness and tap you into the Internet of the universe.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what it's like. You go sit
Speaker 1: in these ancient spots, you find a shaman sea and
Speaker 1: you sit there and you learn how to meditate with it,
Speaker 1: and it really is like surfing the astroplane like you
Speaker 1: would the Internet. You can tap in with consciousness and
Speaker 1: read the acoustic library of these ancient times. In certain ways,
Speaker 1: there at least have these visions and impressions and downloads
Speaker 1: of knowledge that I think these ancient cultures would find
Speaker 1: absolutely invaluable, Like to have a shaman sit there and
Speaker 1: to gain wisdom about what to do and where to
Speaker 1: go would be a matter of life and death. Back then,
Speaker 1: it would be absolutely important. Now we just call our intuition.
Speaker 5: You know, where Kabba meditation goes straight into the idea
Speaker 5: of these chariots of the gods, chariots of the gods,
Speaker 5: is right back into the Ufo phenomenon. So it's all
Speaker 5: right back with the same terminology even and I think
Speaker 5: very few appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And the Marakaba, A lot of that stuff goes back
Speaker 1: to the different fundamentals of the like the Kabbalist system
Speaker 1: or the tree and the tree of life. And then
Speaker 1: you're talking again about the chakras of the body that
Speaker 1: go up through and those are all a prototype for you.
Speaker 1: And so when you start to study those systems and
Speaker 1: those methods of how the universe works in these esoteric teachings,
Speaker 1: you realize you're reading about yourself and these are all
Speaker 1: things that we're supposed to align and tune you in
Speaker 1: experience the phenomena or to talk to God or whatever
Speaker 1: you know, to commune with the source of creation that fabric.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, the chakras, that's you know, a
Speaker 8: lot of people are familiar with just seven chakras, but
Speaker 8: there are literally some some people say hundreds.
Speaker 2: Of chakras throughout the body that you can control.
Speaker 6: So that's actually interesting that you brought that up. Lights,
Speaker 6: Like when you were talking about the lights and orbs
Speaker 6: and all that other stuff. It was interesting because of
Speaker 6: the fact of the fact that what we know about
Speaker 6: chakras being different colors, you know, is, are those orbs
Speaker 6: people that were able to manifest and do things that
Speaker 6: you know, might not be human like and more like
Speaker 6: God likes.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's interesting because you know, there's.
Speaker 1: A lot of talk.
Speaker 6: We've had a couple of discussions about Bigfoot and dog
Speaker 6: men and so on and so forth, and uh, you know,
Speaker 6: a lot of the ancient texts talk about that stuff.
Speaker 6: I give an example, I always talk about it. I've
Speaker 6: been talking about it since we've been talking about Bigfoot.
Speaker 6: Is that inky do from this Marians is also known
Speaker 6: as an you know, an animal like man. You know,
Speaker 6: he's at the depiction of him is very different, but
Speaker 6: the idea is that he's not for human.
Speaker 1: He's part animal and part human.
Speaker 6: And then eventually he was persuaded by a prostitute to
Speaker 6: become more human like, and he came to the city
Speaker 6: and became Gyoga Mesha's best friend. But the point is
Speaker 6: that he's been described as what some people will say
Speaker 6: is as a bigfoot. So these ancient text talk talk
Speaker 6: about this stuff Ezekiel's will. You know, a lot of
Speaker 6: people will talk about that and relate that to the
Speaker 6: UFO phenomena.
Speaker 1: But he's seen this in a vision.
Speaker 6: He didn't see this with his two eyes where you
Speaker 6: open your eyes and you look at it and you
Speaker 6: see it flying. He's seen it on top of a mountain. Why,
Speaker 6: he was in a visualized state, no different than Jacob
Speaker 6: when he's seen the seventy two angels coming from heaven.
Speaker 6: From the latter, remember, he was in a visualized state too.
Speaker 6: And that's why I like to use.
Speaker 1: The word vision or visualize.
Speaker 6: Or you know, something like that, because in the simple
Speaker 6: fact that that's what they talk about. That they was meditating,
Speaker 6: they was trying to and a lot of times not
Speaker 6: only when they were meditating, you also remember they were
Speaker 6: fasting at that time too. So when you take food
Speaker 6: and water away from you and you start controlling it
Speaker 6: to the bare minimum necessity of your body to survive,
Speaker 6: you can become in a hallucinated tide of state. You
Speaker 6: can even start seeing things, I know from personal things
Speaker 6: where when I was in the military, when you was
Speaker 6: on go thirty six forty some hours, fifty sixty hours,
Speaker 6: you start seeing fucking pink elephants.
Speaker 3: And shit like that.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So I know I could just and that's just a
Speaker 6: couple of days, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They was pushing forty so you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I can just imagine what the hell I was seeing.
Speaker 6: You know, you'll have to do something like meditate for
Speaker 6: forty days and lack of food and water and shit like,
Speaker 6: you've better seen some shit.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd be wrong if you didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did something wrong if you didn't at that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And they say they say in those visions.
Speaker 1: A lot of the times, those guys, the prophets in
Speaker 1: the Bible, they're like in the middle of describing this
Speaker 1: whole experience with God, and right in the middle they
Speaker 1: slip in whether in the body or out of the body,
Speaker 1: I know not, they don't know.
Speaker 6: That's actually one of my favorite, that's one of my
Speaker 6: favorite scriptures.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of them, but you're you're right.
Speaker 1: It does say is whether in the body or out
Speaker 1: the body? I do not know.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it says.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well if you go you go out and
Speaker 1: do psionics. That's exactly what it's like. When it works,
Speaker 1: you know, you're like, yeah, you're you're sitting there and
Speaker 1: you know that you're there, but a part of you
Speaker 1: is caught up in a different place and a different
Speaker 1: experience and sees things. And then when that comes back
Speaker 1: and uh, and appears to you in the canyon or
Speaker 1: as a ball of light and returns right when you're
Speaker 1: thinking about it, you start to understand what all these
Speaker 1: ancient mystical people were doing, you know, and what they were.
Speaker 6: Actually starving their bodies. Man, they were starving themselves. They're
Speaker 6: starving themselves mentally physically and you know with everything they
Speaker 6: they were starving themselves and that's where it pushed them
Speaker 6: to that mental state where they could see things that
Speaker 6: we couldn't.
Speaker 2: But see, this is where astral projection.
Speaker 6: Also come to play. You don't have to uh. You
Speaker 6: could be resting, trying to get rest and get better
Speaker 6: and still do these these these type of uh uh
Speaker 6: uh you know, god like abilities traveling outside the body
Speaker 6: like that, because when you're in a much relaxed state
Speaker 6: of mind or and you're in the you know, the
Speaker 6: witching hour, I guess they call that, uh you can
Speaker 6: you can astro project and you can do things.
Speaker 1: That you know you wouldn't be able to do when
Speaker 1: you're in.
Speaker 2: A physical form.
Speaker 6: And you know, they say that this is important because
Speaker 6: that this is where some people were able to come
Speaker 6: up with some of the technology that we have today.
Speaker 6: Some of the people had their prophecies explained through those ways.
Speaker 6: You know, they got to quote unquote and I'm gonna say, Nick,
Speaker 6: see the future that type of shit.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. People don't want to believe it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And I was talking to Nick about this earlier that
Speaker 6: I have, like I have this thing about me where
Speaker 6: I can feel think that something's going to happen, and
Speaker 6: I just and I wish I could control it to
Speaker 6: see exactly how it's going to play out. But I
Speaker 6: always have a feeling that something's happened. And there's different
Speaker 6: people around the world that have these things. My mom
Speaker 6: is a medium. She talks to you know, she tells
Speaker 6: me that she can talk to people who are who
Speaker 6: passed away and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So there are people out there like this.
Speaker 6: Psychics are able to find people who were murdered that
Speaker 6: never even had any information about them at that time period,
Speaker 6: and police department hire them. They'll come out to that
Speaker 6: police department, get a couple of facts from the individuals,
Speaker 6: and boom, within a couple of days, a couple of hours,
Speaker 6: they know exactly where his body's at.
Speaker 1: And this is up on the part.
Speaker 6: Where we able to use our abilities, of god like abilities.
Speaker 6: The problem is is that we don't seek to know
Speaker 6: how to do it. You know, Jesus walked on water.
Speaker 6: That can mean so many different things, right. The point
Speaker 6: is is the fact that when we take our abilities
Speaker 6: and we start following what I hate to say because
Speaker 6: some people don't like the Bible, but if you listen
Speaker 6: to what Christ said, look within yourself, you are able
Speaker 6: to accomplish things that people would think will be demonic, magical,
Speaker 6: you know, mystical type stuff, you know, witchcraft, And it's
Speaker 6: really not that you're looking within yourself to bring out
Speaker 6: the best of you and the best around your world,
Speaker 6: because the universe revolves around you. You just have to
Speaker 6: make that universe the best way you can. And a
Speaker 6: lot of people fail to do that because they don't
Speaker 6: look within themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. All those, all the miracles and the scriptures
Speaker 1: and everything are acts of faith. You know, the things
Speaker 1: that happened that were completely paranormal, that occurred that multiple
Speaker 1: people witnessed because one person had a belief that was
Speaker 1: so strong they knew it was real. They acted on intention,
Speaker 1: they took a chance in that moment or whatever, and
Speaker 1: in that moment, the universe responded and actually delivered delivered
Speaker 1: the goods and then not throughout time, and those are
Speaker 1: carried as miracles, like walking on water or partying the
Speaker 1: Red Sea, or a pillar of light from the sky,
Speaker 1: or the finger of God writing on the stone. And
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that people can say whatever they want,
Speaker 1: but like these things are fundamentally built into the universe
Speaker 1: for us to explore and to be curious about. And
Speaker 1: they're all throughout the history of the scriptures. And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people right now that think that doing
Speaker 1: telepathy or psionics or remote viewing and all that is
Speaker 1: some kind of an evil thing, like it's a cult
Speaker 1: or witchcraft are going to get you into demonic entities
Speaker 1: and stuff. But like when you start even trying to
Speaker 1: deal with your own problems and your own mind doing meditation,
Speaker 1: you could call that like, oh, I'm dealing with demonic forces.
Speaker 1: And when I started trying to deal with my own
Speaker 1: depression or deal with my own self hatred and different things,
Speaker 1: I might as well have been wrestling with demons. And
Speaker 1: it's the same shit, you know, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the in psionics and this
Speaker 1: kind of work with the phenomena, it's also the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, how much are we going to fear ourselves
Speaker 1: as we explore reality because the universe is going to
Speaker 1: push back and what you're taking to the table. So
Speaker 1: like if you go out there, like all of my
Speaker 1: experiences when I've gone out even with these professional guys
Speaker 1: to do psionics and to do it even though we
Speaker 1: flat out call it summoning, and we're out there working
Speaker 1: in the areas where there's dead animals and creepy stuff,
Speaker 1: and it would you would think on the surface, like
Speaker 1: this as a haunted house. We're out here working in
Speaker 1: the in the woods. But every time we go out
Speaker 1: because of the vibe that we carry with us and
Speaker 1: our intentions, our results have always been positive and have
Speaker 1: been amazing, and we found that, you know, the attitude
Speaker 1: that you bring as a team or an as an
Speaker 1: individual is going to give you the results that are
Speaker 1: tuned to you. If you're going out there and you're
Speaker 1: all worried and afraid, like what if we see someone,
Speaker 1: the odds of you manifesting and actually encountering something that's
Speaker 1: going to traumatize you, go up and up. You know
Speaker 1: you're gonna get we're looking for.
Speaker 5: Let me get this straight. You guys aren't praying for
Speaker 5: the end of the world and you're not expecting to
Speaker 5: see demons.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're realizing that whole belief that the
Speaker 1: end of the world is coming is a self fulfilling
Speaker 1: prophecy of manifestation that we have to let go of
Speaker 1: as a society and realize that's all us just impending
Speaker 1: our own doom on ourselves. It's crazy to even imagine that, really,
Speaker 1: when you realize how manifestation works, like the whole the
Speaker 1: belief that the world can only be saved by ending
Speaker 1: it really is apocalyptic to believe that about yourself. I
Speaker 1: think every beginning begins with the chaos, that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the zodiac, the explosion of area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm personally not afraid all that much of it.
Speaker 1: And I feel like all the spiritual leaders and even
Speaker 1: the Bible and stuff like if you want to go
Speaker 1: back to the Bible and when when Christ went out
Speaker 1: and did his forty day fast, when the most powerful
Speaker 1: evil force ever came up to him and tried to
Speaker 1: tempt him, I mean, Jesus was like, who are you?
Speaker 1: You have nothing to offer me. And it's the same
Speaker 1: deal today, same deal. So, I mean a demon is
Speaker 1: only as powerful of a demon as you decide to
Speaker 1: pay attention to them and give him credit.
Speaker 5: Like that's all the offer, as the offer is to
Speaker 5: give you, right, you don't.
Speaker 6: I'm glad you said that because Plato in a credit
Speaker 6: list in his book Created List, he says that Socrates
Speaker 6: in them they have this they're having this dialogue where
Speaker 6: they have this dialogue in there, and they say demons
Speaker 6: are individuals who are wise men or men who died honorably.
Speaker 6: Right now, it's interesting you say it like that way,
Speaker 6: because that demon, if you let that demon have more
Speaker 6: knowledge than you than that do you mean control you.
Speaker 6: But if you have more knowledge than that demon, then
Speaker 6: that demon can't control you.
Speaker 1: Who are you? I know more than you?
Speaker 6: You can't tell me shit type attititude. Right, And this
Speaker 6: is when you look at the exorcism. What does the
Speaker 6: what does the priests usually do? When he walks in there,
Speaker 6: he starts spitting out facts. You are evil, you are
Speaker 6: no good, You're hurting this person and that person don't
Speaker 6: like them.
Speaker 1: Facts.
Speaker 6: And that's when the knowledge becomes better than what that
Speaker 6: demon has, because they literally say in that book that
Speaker 6: demons in the Greek time at least that demons are
Speaker 6: wise men or men who died honorably. Well, now we
Speaker 6: gotta fight that knowledge. You go ahead, bro Tyro.
Speaker 5: So in Greek they had three forms of demon that
Speaker 5: they identified, So diimona as is just basically the generalized spirit.
Speaker 5: Then you had audaimon ase like uh eu in front
Speaker 5: of it, which would mean good spirits, and then they
Speaker 5: had keiko daimonase, which would be the evil spirits. So
Speaker 5: in that paradigm, when they're just talking about spirits, they're
Speaker 5: talking about like the their ancestors walking amongst them and
Speaker 5: still spreading their knowledge in these houses wisdom and that
Speaker 5: was a different sort of perspective than what came later,
Speaker 5: because the idea that you would have ghosts walking around
Speaker 5: was almost seen as unclean from that perspective in the world.
Speaker 5: But you know, in the European world, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: our ancestors walk with us, and we don't, you know,
Speaker 5: shun their presence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6: And that's why I'm saying is that there's so many
Speaker 6: is so interesting because the words that we use are
Speaker 6: very very and I said that earlier. You know, we
Speaker 6: have to be careful on the words that we use
Speaker 6: because if you don't use the word that it means
Speaker 6: for the original time frame, then you do won't understand
Speaker 6: what that person is saying. That's why for me, I
Speaker 6: like to know that demons are evil, and I also
Speaker 6: like to note that they're intelligent. Now my problem is
Speaker 6: with this is what intelligent knowledge that they give us
Speaker 6: that made us evil? But then I have to go
Speaker 6: back and think about what we have today. Well, we
Speaker 6: have weapons that can kill people. Metal can kill people,
Speaker 6: but metal can also create life by agricultural needs. Right,
Speaker 6: so the idea of evil, but what did we do
Speaker 6: with the knowledge to benefit ourselves? And we win either
Speaker 6: you know, the evil way with it creating weapons of
Speaker 6: mass destruction, and then we created tractors to be able
Speaker 6: to do mass production of food for the people on
Speaker 6: this earth. So, you know, evil, good and evil. You know,
Speaker 6: it's all subjective. But the point is is that, Yeah,
Speaker 6: what's up, bro.
Speaker 5: You're going to love this. So how did dimonase get
Speaker 5: translated into the Latin as the word genius? That's what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, the intelligences of everything, and that goes perfectly
Speaker 5: with what you're saying. So it's like, the intelligence is
Speaker 5: this factor that sort of manifests its own thing, like
Speaker 5: the aggregors and all the rest of these spiritual concepts
Speaker 5: end up manifesting into reality through the genius.
Speaker 1: That's the agrigor concept. Is how that's all connected. When
Speaker 1: people want to know where UFOs are coming from and
Speaker 1: why they look the way they do, and why they
Speaker 1: have the shape they do, and why the entities that
Speaker 1: come out of them or what they see coming out
Speaker 1: of portals or whatever. Yeah, that whole concept of the
Speaker 1: connection between the aggregor and the observer, the observer effect
Speaker 1: and the consciousness of the group. I mean, to me,
Speaker 1: that's the fundamental secret and why you asked that question earlier.
Speaker 1: Why doesn't the government just come out and tell us
Speaker 1: what's going on? If they know, how do you tell
Speaker 1: everybody that. I mean, that's a secret that you almost
Speaker 1: don't want to get out, Because as soon as everybody realized,
Speaker 1: oh wait, reality is created off of our own intentions,
Speaker 1: Like it's built like a dream as we lean into
Speaker 1: the future, Like we're building this out of our own
Speaker 1: minds and our own hearts. You know, it's a.
Speaker 5: Magic works best when the people you're doing the magic
Speaker 5: on don't know their participating.
Speaker 3: Don't know.
Speaker 1: You want to be the only one, the only wizard
Speaker 1: in the top of the castle, controlling the whole matrix.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, you don't want to Any last
Speaker 1: thing you want is a million people walking around with
Speaker 1: a crystal in their own hands. You want to be
Speaker 1: the only one with the crystal ball that can see
Speaker 1: the future. Like so when they bring up disclosure, the
Speaker 1: reason they don't they're afraid to talk about the implications
Speaker 1: of all that because all the rest of this comes
Speaker 1: out of that bag too, like the whole unraveling of
Speaker 1: their control over education and medicine and just reality itself
Speaker 1: literally comes unraveled.
Speaker 5: Which so ironic that the entire symbol of this is
Speaker 5: like star trek Aliens and this progressive future. But we're
Speaker 5: kind of stuck on Earth and so our only vision
Speaker 5: of the future are these alien crafts that we manifested
Speaker 5: into reality. It's really like a correction.
Speaker 1: It's a psychic controlled system, right, it's a closed system,
Speaker 1: a psychic closed system, like a Yeah, we're in. We're
Speaker 1: in like a holographic reality that is in the universe
Speaker 1: than nothing as as server. You know, it doesn't have
Speaker 1: a container, and so we're just in this infinite capacity
Speaker 1: of creation and we're not you know, we can go
Speaker 1: anywhere we want through the universe, but we're never leaving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 1: We're in it. Yeah, which is it's you know, crazy
Speaker 1: to think about, like if all the things that the universe
Speaker 1: could be doing, it's pretty wild that this is what's up,
Speaker 1: this is what's going on, and we have no idea
Speaker 1: and we're trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6: Just to think that the idea is that all the
Speaker 6: species around the universe thinks that Earth is important and
Speaker 6: that's why they come here. That's another thing, right, like
Speaker 6: why is this so important? Why do we have a
Speaker 6: Middle Earth? Why do we have an Inner Earth? Why
Speaker 6: do we have extraterrestrials. Why do we have into terrestrials.
Speaker 1: Why do we have.
Speaker 6: Paranormal activities with ghosts, demons and you know all these
Speaker 6: other things?
Speaker 2: Why is Earth so full of this stuff?
Speaker 6: And if Earth this small as all this and the
Speaker 6: universe is supposed to be so big, then what the
Speaker 6: hell outs are missing out? All?
Speaker 1: I know? Yeah, there's something going on with all of that.
Speaker 1: Whereas much as we think we've got it nailed down
Speaker 1: and figured out and we're measuring time and track and everything, like,
Speaker 1: all of that is ultimately really relative and we don't
Speaker 1: really know what's making it go, and like how it's going,
Speaker 1: is it really all is just unfathomable. It's like you're
Speaker 1: just kind of have to sit back and realize it's amazing.
Speaker 1: You know, Wow, this is amazing. And when you get
Speaker 1: into that mindset, you know, that's where that key of
Speaker 1: a lot of my work is and what the people
Speaker 1: I work with is. Yeah, getting into that feeling of wow,
Speaker 1: this is amazing. Like any day that we go out,
Speaker 1: anything could happen, Anything amazing could happen. So you can
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and say, have this spirit
Speaker 1: within you. That's like the universe can literally do anything.
Speaker 1: It's its potential is infinite, and it's listening to me,
Speaker 1: and so let's see how awesome today can go. And
Speaker 1: if you have that attitude, then that same idea that
Speaker 1: the universe is responding to you and will react to
Speaker 1: you and manifests in that way. That's what we should
Speaker 1: be doing instead of this whole like when is the
Speaker 1: world going to end and who's going to come and
Speaker 1: save us or whatever. If we lean into that, it
Speaker 1: will lead us into this golden age where we suddenly
Speaker 1: start connecting at this higher level through telepathy and intuition
Speaker 1: and consciousness are through our feelings, our ability to connect
Speaker 1: with each other and see each other as the same
Speaker 1: and all you know, having the same those same connections
Speaker 1: through consciousness, and then the way that we'll see the
Speaker 1: world change and the fabric of reality and how that
Speaker 1: all uplifts. Then we'll understand what all those ancient people
Speaker 1: were doing, you know, ten thousand years ago, and why
Speaker 1: they were building pyramids. Suddenly that I think that will
Speaker 1: all make sense as as soon as we can reach
Speaker 1: that level.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the hard thing is going on to mal forty
Speaker 6: days and meditating and fast and once we can establish that,
Speaker 6: then everything else will come into answers.
Speaker 1: That's it, man, That's what I'm trying to do. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm like such a I'm into this, like I'm
Speaker 1: totally obsessed with it. I don't go forty days and
Speaker 1: I definitely don't fast. I just barely today into a
Speaker 1: forty eight hour fast, but not a forty day fast.
Speaker 1: I just ate my first meal right before getting on here,
Speaker 1: but because my power's been out all day. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to get into it. You got to like
Speaker 1: go into your own self trying to refine your own
Speaker 1: life and your own mind and your own consciousness. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've gotten into this process to the point where I'm
Speaker 1: like very even particular about my diet, how much sugar
Speaker 1: I eat, whether I'm exercising or not. And I mean
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that I feel like if
Speaker 1: I'm not taking care of myself, I'm just not as
Speaker 1: good at this. I'm not effective and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be an effective part of the team when we
Speaker 1: go out and work. So like in my own private life,
Speaker 1: even when I'm not out doing the psionic stuff and
Speaker 1: making videos about it. It's a lot of work I'm
Speaker 1: doing constantly meditating and trying to keep myself in the
Speaker 1: right mindset, you know, and keeping my life on track
Speaker 1: for that and everything that I'm doing. It's if you
Speaker 1: have like a regular full time job and you're not
Speaker 1: trying to do it full time like I am, it's
Speaker 1: it is. It takes a lot.
Speaker 2: It's a challenge. Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's you know, And I'm glad you brought that
Speaker 6: up because I think one of my strengths is is
Speaker 6: that because I am retired, I'm able to read and
Speaker 6: research and share what I've learned. I try to give
Speaker 6: back to the people who actually truly want to know
Speaker 6: things Like if there's something about ancient history that somebody
Speaker 6: likes to know and I read about it, I like to,
Speaker 6: you know, give them as much information that I can
Speaker 6: about it. You know, there's there's not I always say this,
Speaker 6: there's not enough time in a day for us to
Speaker 6: do everything that we want. You know, you have to
Speaker 6: pick and choose. One of my favorite authors is in
Speaker 6: historian's Godfrey Higgins. He wrote these books in eighteen thirty
Speaker 6: three called Anacalypse's value on it too. He was a
Speaker 6: thirty third degree Mason. He has these books, these very
Speaker 6: thick ass books. And the other guy that I like
Speaker 6: was Albert Pike. I'm probably sure you heard about him.
Speaker 6: And I read their stuff so much, and they talk
Speaker 6: about the stuff that you're talking about everything that I read,
Speaker 6: you know, from consciousness to you know, some types of
Speaker 6: some type of entity or something that's not known to
Speaker 6: us that we can see with our human eyes but
Speaker 6: we can see with our third eye and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: And it's interesting that we have a lot of information
Speaker 6: out there and that takes a lot of people to
Speaker 6: research it. But then I think about the people who
Speaker 6: don't have the ability to do the type of research
Speaker 6: and stuff that we have. And I give you a
Speaker 6: good example of this is the people that live in
Speaker 6: North Korea, like they have no choice but to just
Speaker 6: be told whatever it is they are. And I wonder,
Speaker 6: you know, how does the meditation work there, because they
Speaker 6: have people who've been there for thousands and thousands of years,
Speaker 6: and I'm pretty sure they have people with their own
Speaker 6: myths and stuff. And I try to look for some
Speaker 6: of this stuff online and it's very you know, vague
Speaker 6: and very you know, not not really any too much
Speaker 6: information out there. And I wonder, you know, because of that,
Speaker 6: and you know, the way that history is going, some
Speaker 6: of the history is being taken away, some of the
Speaker 6: history is being hidden, some of the history is even
Speaker 6: being destroyed even until to this day, right in twenty
Speaker 6: twenty five, which is crazy. But when you think about
Speaker 6: the people in North Korea who have no who don't
Speaker 6: have these abilities, they're being robbed of their ba see
Speaker 6: human journey, you know, the human journey.
Speaker 2: They're being robbed.
Speaker 6: And if there is these individuals who can control that,
Speaker 6: you know, gods or entities or whatever it is out there,
Speaker 6: then they have to be as strong as the people
Speaker 6: ass that's doing good. And what I mean by that
Speaker 6: is nobody's fucking with Korea right now. Like, nobody's fucking
Speaker 6: with Korea right now, right like as much as the
Speaker 6: technology that we have from all the you know, the
Speaker 6: allies that America has, ain't nobody fucking with Korea right now?
Speaker 4: Up out Israel too recently, Yeah, I think Korea actually
Speaker 4: said like that Duty should be arrested.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's crazy because I wonder, you know, the good
Speaker 6: that that that's happening, do we really consider it good
Speaker 6: because we're we have luxuries that other people don't have.
Speaker 6: Or is it the proper Ganda that's telling us through
Speaker 6: the news that hey, Korea is this way and that's
Speaker 6: that's the fucked.
Speaker 1: Up way we're going to go with them.
Speaker 6: Not only that, but you also have to think about
Speaker 6: the same thing with Cuba, like how you remember how
Speaker 6: Cuba was forbidding for were not forbidding for us to
Speaker 6: go there, but to learn about and ship like that
Speaker 6: because of you know, the relationship with Russia and so
Speaker 6: on and.
Speaker 1: So forth like that.
Speaker 6: It's crazy to know that we could be robbed of
Speaker 6: our history but in our day of you know, in
Speaker 6: the free country that we're in today. But people are
Speaker 6: robbed across the world with just you know, the basic
Speaker 6: shiit of what they what they can do. You know,
Speaker 6: just think about that Korean that's see something in the
Speaker 6: in the sky that they never seen before because electricity
Speaker 6: is always out of at this time, and you know,
Speaker 6: it's dark outside. Ain't got shitos and ain't never really
Speaker 6: seen anything. But then they see this glowing light over
Speaker 6: their their their land. I just want to know the
Speaker 6: type of stories they have over there, you know, what
Speaker 6: I'm saying that the Skinwalker ranches they have over there,
Speaker 6: the ORB stories they had, the UFO stories they had,
Speaker 6: because they're in some cases they're still living in archaic times,
Speaker 6: but they don't have electricity all the time like we do.
Speaker 6: So it's just interesting. And they eat a lot of
Speaker 6: fish too. And then anybody that knows anything about fish,
Speaker 6: fish brain food, so you know, that can exaggerate a
Speaker 6: lot of the shit.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, you never know. I think the uh,
Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating how the Yeah, those the ancient
Speaker 1: cultures that are like cut off from the modern society
Speaker 1: seem to hold all the secrets, you know, and uh Yeah,
Speaker 1: as modern civilization colonisers move in and like take over
Speaker 1: different areas, they basically smother that under the rug and
Speaker 1: they say, well, this is all this is. I'm to
Speaker 1: have looked at these savages. We need to we need
Speaker 1: to modernize this and develop culture and civilize these people.
Speaker 1: And then they just trounced right over the Yeah, the
Speaker 1: ancient teachings and spiritual places and build the cities on
Speaker 1: top of them. Yeah, that's that's crazy how that happens
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 4: Troubles it is jumped in a little late. I just
Speaker 4: want to introduce Troubles. See what's going on, Troubles. Won't
Speaker 4: you let everybody know who you are? I don't even
Speaker 4: know if these guys here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, guys, what's up guys. A nice meeting you guys,
Speaker 7: Headless Giant, Nice to see you again.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 9: I've been following you guys and on the.
Speaker 7: Occult Rejects, on you guys' lives, and when you guys
Speaker 7: were talking about the tweakers. First of all, I want
Speaker 7: to thank the Lord for allow them to be here today,
Speaker 7: and I want to think everyone want to be following
Speaker 7: into your space. Thank you guys for what you guys
Speaker 7: are doing today because it is really really good work
Speaker 7: and good research. Also, I left off watching, I left
Speaker 7: the chat when you guys were talking about the tweakers
Speaker 7: and the intent and manifesting what you're tweaked out guys,
Speaker 7: I am a recovering added.
Speaker 9: You guys freaking triggered me. And I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 7: It is that's insane how accurate you guys are Because
Speaker 7: I come from a place where where I used to
Speaker 7: get hybro and I used to and this is just
Speaker 7: my experience bro used to get tweaked out on my
Speaker 7: freaking in my closet, and I would think that I
Speaker 7: was grabbing my my wife's liver with my hand until
Speaker 7: it rotted and my wife would wake up with pain.
Speaker 7: And you guys are like, you know, BROT, you're tweaked out, Like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I was fucking tweaked out. But I was damaging her
Speaker 7: with my intention, Bro, Like I was dreaming.
Speaker 9: I was you can't go to sleep.
Speaker 7: I was day walking, daydreaming with about it, bro, And
Speaker 7: it was happening to her on a physical level, like
Speaker 7: I was grabbing it from the ether and putting it
Speaker 7: in her freaking body. And I decided to stop, obviously
Speaker 7: because I have children and everything.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 7: But I have a year and almost six months not
Speaker 7: tweaking more and not smoking weed and not drinking alcohol anymore. Guys,
Speaker 7: And I'm gonna tell you something, It's probably the best
Speaker 7: thing I've ever done. It's not about me. It's about
Speaker 7: the idea though, that everything that you do here and
Speaker 7: you are tappeding into a frequency, you could definitely materialize it.
Speaker 9: And I'm not that's where I left off. I'm sorry if.
Speaker 7: I'm pivoting or changing the conversation. But yeah, man, it's
Speaker 7: an intense, intense realm. Telepathy is another main thing my
Speaker 7: ex and I now, I'm a vivid, lucid dreamer. Nothing
Speaker 7: to do with it, but look check us out with
Speaker 7: my ex and I. She after I did my fourth
Speaker 7: coming of a man in a moscoal Apachi tribe, we
Speaker 7: did some celebrations for sweat lodges for forth coming of
Speaker 7: a man celebration.
Speaker 9: And after I did my three sessions, her and.
Speaker 7: I developed some type of telepathy conversation, bro. Like she
Speaker 7: would look at me across the hallway, Bro, and like
Speaker 7: give me a nudge, and I would she like, you
Speaker 7: heard me, and I will start lasting out of nowhere, bro.
Speaker 7: Because we had a connection. She was my to inflame.
Speaker 7: I still love this woman very very much. Obviously she
Speaker 7: has her own family and I do too, and I
Speaker 7: you know, we're happy where we're at. But everything happened energetically.
Speaker 7: It wasn't like we were fucking and having sex with
Speaker 7: each other. Bro, Like we were touching each other. So
Speaker 7: I know, its some fucking retarded and it sounds like
Speaker 7: something a tweaker would say, bro, or a spiritual guru
Speaker 7: would say. But we had telepathy, and we would have full,
Speaker 7: long conversations for more than ten minutes.
Speaker 9: Bro.
Speaker 7: In our dreams, we will see each other in our dreams,
Speaker 7: and then the next day we'll remember, like, Bro, did
Speaker 7: you dream the same thing I did?
Speaker 2: Tripping the freak out?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 7: It's insane. So yeah, man tapped into that. Not anymore
Speaker 7: but in the past. Yeah, Bro, Sorry if I interrupted
Speaker 7: and pivoted the conversation something.
Speaker 6: I like that because you know, you know, if he
Speaker 6: was here, he's really good. Had he had wrote some
Speaker 6: books on meditation and stuff. And you know, one thing
Speaker 6: that I've learned about meditation, not just from his book
Speaker 6: but overall and throughout my life, is that breathing can
Speaker 6: help you with that stuff too.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It's just we all have our own ailments. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, We all have our own vices. It
Speaker 6: was good that you've seen yours and you worked around it.
Speaker 6: That's why you had You went on your journey and
Speaker 6: you're here to tell us about it. But see, think
Speaker 6: about the people who weren't able to put those in
Speaker 6: words for us to understand as of today, in the thousands,
Speaker 6: thousands of years ago, you know, you're trying to explain
Speaker 6: this thousands and thousands of years ago. You know, it
Speaker 6: brings in the perspective that we are now able to,
Speaker 6: you know, communicate with each other, to understand each other.
Speaker 6: And everybody has their own journey and footsteps to go down.
Speaker 6: And that's what the wonderful part about it is that
Speaker 6: when Carl Crusher was saying earlier that you know a
Speaker 6: lot of these myths and these these these theories and
Speaker 6: stuff come because of everybody's individual experience. You know, your
Speaker 6: God is not the same God as my God. I
Speaker 6: could be praying for something totally different than what you're
Speaker 6: praying for, and your God can bless you for what
Speaker 6: you have, and the other God can bless me for
Speaker 6: what I have. Right, it's not it's not the And
Speaker 6: that's where it comes into manifesting. When you was talking
Speaker 6: about manifesting, I was actually talking about materializing. A couple
Speaker 6: of shows shows ago about how there's in the Bible itself,
Speaker 6: it talks a lot about materializing. You know, they was
Speaker 6: there one minute and gone the next, you know, and
Speaker 6: you know it's the way they look within themselves that
Speaker 6: they were able to achieve these you know, these I
Speaker 6: guess you could say abilities, and you know what, you know,
Speaker 6: it makes me think about sometimes, you know, when you
Speaker 6: watch some of these superhero movies and shows and stuff
Speaker 6: like that, when they when they were young kids, they
Speaker 6: were trying to control their their godlike abilities to fit
Speaker 6: in with the crowd. And I think that's what we're
Speaker 6: all doing, is that we have abilities that we can do.
Speaker 6: We're just trying to fit in with the crowd because
Speaker 6: we don't be looked at as weird, even though we
Speaker 6: still say as good men and women as to today.
Speaker 5: You know, I think I got a through road, right,
Speaker 5: So what happens when you're you know, tweaked out on
Speaker 5: drugs versus when you're I don't know, forty days fasting
Speaker 5: in the desert. You've got pressure on the skull in
Speaker 5: different areas, right, You've got a lot of swelling, You've
Speaker 5: got a lot of different areas activating within the brain
Speaker 5: and different you know, connections happening. Again, like the hallucinations
Speaker 5: are a similar event, but there's something deforming the shape
Speaker 5: of the brain in these cases that then creates these
Speaker 5: effects that you know, we see manifestations and all sorts
Speaker 5: of other stuff happening because things are not working normally,
Speaker 5: so it's almost like it's pushing different parts of the
Speaker 5: consciousness out of proportion in the brain. Now, I think
Speaker 5: maybe there there is some sort of a connection to
Speaker 5: having you know, damaging effects in association with you know,
Speaker 5: uncontrolled PK or some of these other things. But this
Speaker 5: is why harmony is so important in the in the
Speaker 5: process of achieving these things. We see a lot of
Speaker 5: people with brain damage having a weird effects you know,
Speaker 5: occurring in and around these these different lobes of the brain.
Speaker 5: I've heard about the central cortex. How the central cortex
Speaker 5: used to be active in you know, primitive humans. It's
Speaker 5: no longer active in us, but when people get certain
Speaker 5: brain damage, it activates that and all so activates a
Speaker 5: lot of telekinetic ability. So they might actually be working
Speaker 5: on ways to activate the central cortex, you know, basically
Speaker 5: opening us to the phenomena almost at will.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, if you good, go ahead, bro,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, yeah, if you can. If
Speaker 1: you think about how simple it is that you can
Speaker 1: alter your state of consciousness just taking like a benadrill,
Speaker 1: you know, or anything over even over the counter pills,
Speaker 1: you can alter your state of consciousness taking just like
Speaker 1: a small little tablet or something. But then you think
Speaker 1: of different drugs or psychedelics, and then you expand that
Speaker 1: into different radiations, different frequencies or other technologies that understand
Speaker 1: consciousness and telepathy, and then all of a sudden you're
Speaker 1: getting into this weird almost DARPA technology where you have,
Speaker 1: you know, controlling people's thoughts and experiences at a distance,
Speaker 1: where if the phenomena is at all technological when it
Speaker 1: manifests or materializes, and if it's based on consciousness, then
Speaker 1: its ability to tap into consciousness or control consciousness the
Speaker 1: same way that we would fly a fly, a drone
Speaker 1: or remote control car. Yeah, you're right, I mean some
Speaker 1: of the dangerous side effects of doing this kind of
Speaker 1: work and that the things that we're concerned about is
Speaker 1: that idea of there's missing time that occurs where people
Speaker 1: lose three four hours of time and have no memory
Speaker 1: of where it happened, and you wonder was that time
Speaker 1: actually taken or did we just have like any race
Speaker 1: of memory happen or something is happening to consciousness where
Speaker 1: there's a segment of time just gone, you know. And
Speaker 1: then there's also effects like they call interference syndrome, and
Speaker 1: that's actually even come up in the congressional hearings where
Speaker 1: UAP and experiencers. People that have been and government programs
Speaker 1: that have been very close to these craft or these
Speaker 1: objects on the ground and interacted with them sometimes have
Speaker 1: got a form of brain damage that is like a
Speaker 1: VANA syndrome. So there is a part of their brain
Speaker 1: that is affected by these encounters that changes the structure
Speaker 1: of the brain and they don't know if it's like
Speaker 1: damaging or if it's actually enhancing, and it's a little
Speaker 1: bit depending on the people. There's reports of both. Like
Speaker 1: you said, some people have these encounters and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they have these extra abilities, or they're smarter,
Speaker 1: or they can suddenly do math like crazy or no
Speaker 1: other languages. And then other times they have these encounters
Speaker 1: and it's damaging and they just have their hair all
Speaker 1: falls out and their gums all turned white, and it's
Speaker 1: like they've been hit with radiation and it's not very pleasant.
Speaker 1: But those are all risks that we're taken when we
Speaker 1: go out and do this in the field for real,
Speaker 1: and why we're I carry radiation sensors and bagger counters
Speaker 1: and the MF detectors and all that stuff on me
Speaker 1: everywhere I go to make sure and monitor that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's definitely a real real world side effects getting close
Speaker 1: to raw supernatural phenomena. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, think about how close radiation is to some of
Speaker 5: the primary sort of drivers of creation in the universe.
Speaker 5: You know, atoms and you know radioactive decays, just you know,
Speaker 5: pieces of atoms being shot off into different pieces of space.
Speaker 5: So if you're thinking about white holes and black holes,
Speaker 5: there's something sort of manifesting in that space between spaces.
Speaker 5: This brings us to portals. What are your thoughts on portals.
Speaker 1: Are there.
Speaker 5: People experiencing that sort of phenomena to other places?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think as much as like things can materialize
Speaker 1: or appear like out of the ground or out of
Speaker 1: thin air, like they're coming from outer space, that also
Speaker 1: the environment in reality itself can shift or connect to
Speaker 1: itself in different ways. So I think the connection to
Speaker 1: the understanding of how portals work, both physically and through
Speaker 1: consciousness is also a big reason why I think ancient
Speaker 1: cultures were doing what they're doing a lot of times
Speaker 1: where there's all these pyramids and ancient sites where that
Speaker 1: were sacred. There's a lot of false doorways, staircases that
Speaker 1: go to nowhere, chairs that you sit in and stare
Speaker 1: off into nothing. I mean, there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that look like why in the world these They are
Speaker 1: totally counterintuitive. But when you understand that these places are
Speaker 1: drivers or like pilots, pilot seats for consciousness, then you
Speaker 1: understand that higher level of how people were probably tapping
Speaker 1: into these locations. But I can't remember what the original
Speaker 1: point was or what that original question was, But remind me,
Speaker 1: what would you just say?
Speaker 5: Portals?
Speaker 1: Portals? Yes, but yeah, the portals. So imagine these false
Speaker 1: doorways built in the stone and the wall of the temple,
Speaker 1: and these perfect spots that are all designed to harness
Speaker 1: this power. And then you go sit there and do
Speaker 1: the psionic exercise, the shamanistic exercise where you're overlapping your
Speaker 1: consciousness into the astroplane while you're sitting there in that
Speaker 1: actual location, and you look at the doorway, and then
Speaker 1: you project your consciousness through that doorway, and even though
Speaker 1: it's not a real doorway in the rock, your consciousness
Speaker 1: absolutely goes through a type of portal or a gateway.
Speaker 1: And you may go through a doorway in Peru and
Speaker 1: suddenly find yourself gaining wisdom from somewhere totally alien or
Speaker 1: somewhere totally foreign, or maybe you're feel like you're getting
Speaker 1: insight or wisdom from the teachers over in the ancient
Speaker 1: Indus Valley and Tibet, and so maybe they were sitting
Speaker 1: in these spots through these portal energetic doorways and not
Speaker 1: only traveling, but you know, communicating like an ancient telepathy
Speaker 1: or ancient telephone. So like you have different people in
Speaker 1: different places communicating with each other, and that's why you've
Speaker 1: got Globally, all these structures are built the same and
Speaker 1: the same kind of culture all over the place. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think portals are very real. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: necessarily like a window that would just like open up
Speaker 1: into reality that you go walk through. I think they're
Speaker 1: more just like you might experience it like a strange
Speaker 1: missing time or deja vus or weird incident when you're
Speaker 1: in these locations. But a lot of times there's measurable effects.
Speaker 1: You can catch it on a device or a sensor,
Speaker 1: or other people in the team experienced it at the
Speaker 1: same time. I've even been in experiences where things have
Speaker 1: just appeared and now they're on the ground and they
Speaker 1: were not there before, Like where we've hiked down a
Speaker 1: trail several times and then we went by there the
Speaker 1: very next time, and there's just like a pair of
Speaker 1: boots sitting there that were not there before. Like all
Speaker 1: kinds of things, like time is overlapping. So I think
Speaker 1: portals are mostly just yeah, the past and the future
Speaker 1: getting messy and slipping into each other, and people and
Speaker 1: consciousness can kind of go through that or get in
Speaker 1: the middle.
Speaker 5: Carl, isn't it interesting that people who have these experiences
Speaker 5: with maybe cryptids or some of these other terrifying creatures
Speaker 5: that you know are somewhat real, somewh whatnot, they always
Speaker 5: have an overwhelming sense of dread before running into the creature.
Speaker 5: It's almost like that emotional response was a prerequisite for
Speaker 5: the manifestation of this being.
Speaker 1: I would say that their dread is the primer and
Speaker 1: the actual factor that caused the appearance to go that way.
Speaker 1: That if they would have been able to pay attention
Speaker 1: to that sensation and control that sensation more from fear
Speaker 1: into excitement, their experience probably would have not been the boogeyman.
Speaker 1: That would have been something more profound. It might have
Speaker 1: been their great grandfather's ghosts of ancient shaman or some
Speaker 1: kind of a higher intelligence.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a supposedly a nerve cluster on the back
Speaker 5: of our necks that wohen activated creates a sense that
Speaker 5: somebody is watching us, right, and so we have that
Speaker 5: sort of reaction to that nerve cluster. Do you think
Speaker 5: maybe stimulating certain nerve clusters on the human body to
Speaker 5: then produce these type of manifestations is possible using maybe
Speaker 5: electromagnetic means kind of like a you can shoot this
Speaker 5: out of a person?
Speaker 1: Maybe, I think so. But what you're tapping into now
Speaker 1: is the big core of the secret of what they
Speaker 1: were doing at the Montalk project and why that gets
Speaker 1: such a bad because they started realizing, well, asking that
Speaker 1: same question, how can we take a person and amplify
Speaker 1: them and tune them up to make them optimized?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 1: And they would say, well, okay, well, And one of
Speaker 1: the primary guys that started that research was a guy
Speaker 1: named Andrea Puharik, And he used to go down to
Speaker 1: the Amazon rainforest and he was studying the shaman, studying
Speaker 1: magic mushrooms and all of that. And then he was
Speaker 1: coming back up to his labs and experimenting with patients,
Speaker 1: and he started out with magic mushrooms, but then he realized, oh,
Speaker 1: when they're doing the psilocybin, we can flash these strobe
Speaker 1: lights in their eyes and suddenly their ability to guess
Speaker 1: what the que cards are goes way up. They can
Speaker 1: tell it's a triangle, they can tell it's a square,
Speaker 1: Their telepathy goes up. And they say, well, what if
Speaker 1: we add audio to that with the light flashes, and
Speaker 1: they said, wow, it changes it again. There's a different result.
Speaker 1: And then what if we put a red filter over
Speaker 1: the eyes? And pretty soon you're going down this path.
Speaker 1: We're ultimately at Montalk. They've got an island like Epstein
Speaker 1: Island or whatever, and they've got kids. Then they're doing
Speaker 1: experiments on little kids where they're pumping frequencies into their
Speaker 1: brains and they're trying to use radio signals and frequencies
Speaker 1: to amplify their consciousness. I mean, the whole TV show
Speaker 1: Stranger Things is based off of that. You know, trying
Speaker 1: to can you tap into the back of the brain
Speaker 1: or the base of the skull and tune into alternate
Speaker 1: dimensions or talk to aliens or whatever, and that's the
Speaker 1: whole Montalk project was about that, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people swear that they were totally successful. So with that
Speaker 1: whole project, Montalk and mk Ultra, all of that now
Speaker 1: has rolled forward and it's what we call became arpa Net,
Speaker 1: which is now what we call the internet. You know,
Speaker 1: how do you transfer information through the nothingness, through the
Speaker 1: mind through telepathy? That all came out. Jacques Vala was
Speaker 1: on the original team that developed arpaet, the first internet,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's all into remote viewing and consciousness
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. But then arpaet became free and
Speaker 1: became the Internet, and the scientologists too, how put off
Speaker 1: was Yeah, a bunch of them are scientologists. Yeah, Jacques
Speaker 1: Vela actually was hanging out with the Satanic Church a
Speaker 1: lot and doing stuff with him. Yeah, But ultimately they,
Speaker 1: you know, like mk Ultra and DARPA. Like DARPA today,
Speaker 1: they're all about like, how can you human and technology interface?
Speaker 1: Can you put wires and microchips into people's brains to
Speaker 1: control things and control computers? And can you control people
Speaker 1: with frequencies? And that's one hundred percent where you were
Speaker 1: just asking, can you can you take someone with psionic
Speaker 1: abilities and amplify them and into becoming like totally like
Speaker 1: what is that Minority report that movie with Tom Cruise
Speaker 1: where they have these psychic people that can predict future
Speaker 1: crimes and they can go arrest people before they commit
Speaker 1: the crime because the psychics can see the future. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they are trying to figure all that stuff out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and during the Cold War and so so, trying to
Speaker 1: use technology to amplify the brain. It can be a
Speaker 1: very dangerous path where you're getting into mind control stuff
Speaker 1: at that point. Yeah. Oh yeah, it's messy. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think it's part of it. Yeah, you can. I
Speaker 1: think you can use music or different meditations, and there's
Speaker 1: subtle ways that you can enhance your experience when you
Speaker 1: go out to do psionics. But if you really start
Speaker 1: to get Frank consigned with it, you're going to get
Speaker 1: in Well.
Speaker 5: I just keep waiting for Ricardo to pop in talking
Speaker 5: about the megalithic structures that use these very principles so
Speaker 5: that they can trans for information over thousands of miles
Speaker 5: without any wires or anything, just using acoustics and all
Speaker 5: the rest of this advanced mathematics. When it comes to vibration,
Speaker 5: it's like they figured out maybe that's what we're seeing today,
Speaker 5: be even just cheat another manifestation.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they think, so if you had that technology, when
Speaker 4: you just tap indirectly into the ether instead of talking
Speaker 4: to each other, because all the information is up there anyway.
Speaker 1: Information We have the vastness of the Internet, and all
Speaker 1: we do is and watch reels and memes and sit
Speaker 1: and talk to each other too. We could we could
Speaker 1: be studying philosophy and getting degrees in Harvard University and
Speaker 1: we're all just geeking out over UFOs tonight. I mean,
Speaker 1: we we all are just trying to have fun too,
Speaker 1: trying to We want to learn, but it's got to
Speaker 1: be fun. I don't know, I was just saying.
Speaker 6: That earlier, you know, uh, you know, when we're taught
Speaker 6: as young children, or at least when I was taught
Speaker 6: as a kid, when I went to school, I was
Speaker 6: always told that school was meant to be fun. And
Speaker 6: I think that's bullshit, because as a kid, life is
Speaker 6: supposed to be fun, right, That's that's all we know
Speaker 6: is to have fun. So if you can implement a
Speaker 6: way to educate me in a fun way, it probably,
Speaker 6: you know, we probably have more educated people walking around
Speaker 6: here instead of these demis, because you know, a lot
Speaker 6: of people will be able to know what they're really
Speaker 6: being educated on. And I say that because of the
Speaker 6: simple fact that when you look at some of the
Speaker 6: stuff that goes around when I asked you earlier about
Speaker 6: you know, how do you go about with some of
Speaker 6: the people that you negatively You know, you give people sources,
Speaker 6: you give people information, You give people the opportunity to
Speaker 6: go do this and this stuff for themselves, and instead
Speaker 6: of them going to go do it, as soon as
Speaker 6: they hear something you don't like, they dismiss it and
Speaker 6: say this is bullshit, and this, that and the third,
Speaker 6: and you're just like, well, why are you here? If
Speaker 6: everything that I'm telling you is bullshit, then why are
Speaker 6: you here listening in the first place. And that's when
Speaker 6: the trolls come in and all this that third and
Speaker 6: I understand when you say you don't have time for that,
Speaker 6: and you know, and it just bothers me sometimes that
Speaker 6: people are like this, because I'm just like, man, you
Speaker 6: could probably be doing some really cool shit if you
Speaker 6: just stop being an asshole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And of those people, if you actually if you
Speaker 1: actually sat in the same room with them, you'd probably
Speaker 1: become friends if you just talked. But the Internet. You know, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: that's how I met Nick.
Speaker 6: Me and Nick met at Cosmic Summit, And hopefully one
Speaker 6: of these days I'll be able to meet headless.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You know, it's different when you meet people in person
Speaker 6: versus then when on the computer screen. You know, you
Speaker 6: got these keyboard warriors out here, everybody talking shit.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's meet up, blah blah blah.
Speaker 6: Man, y'all ain't gonna do nothing but sit there and
Speaker 6: type away on that goddamn keyboard. Break that keyboard fast
Speaker 6: and you'll break somebody's face. So just leave it as
Speaker 6: it is.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 4: Ancient.
Speaker 5: I think these ancient magicians that knew how to use
Speaker 5: this sort of principle actually came together and formed a government.
Speaker 5: And you know, the government always says that, you know,
Speaker 5: there are on a war footing and they're you know,
Speaker 5: they're doing the most they possibly can, But really they
Speaker 5: don't have to do that much. We're doing it to
Speaker 5: ourselves all the time, and if we just stop doing
Speaker 5: it to ourselves, they wouldn't have any power. And that's
Speaker 5: basically the most efficient way they could think of doing
Speaker 5: it is by getting us convinced that if you know,
Speaker 5: we didn't get together and maybe stop things or boycotted
Speaker 5: once or twice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually get something done. If you put a
Speaker 1: governor in charge of the city, they're expected to get
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff done. But if you put a
Speaker 1: governor on an engine, what does a governor do its
Speaker 1: it caps off how fast the motor can even run.
Speaker 1: It literally is a speed limitter. So yeah, government is
Speaker 1: all about governing. It's about capping off our abilities, controlling
Speaker 1: anything that gets out of control, checks and balances. If
Speaker 1: anybody starts to get ahead as an outlier, you got
Speaker 1: to put them back with the rest. Literally, like if
Speaker 1: anybody starts to developed nukes or any weapons or abilities,
Speaker 1: we got to bomb them and stop and like literally
Speaker 1: everything is about the suppression. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 6: It's just a matter of time if when people take
Speaker 6: that opportunity to do it.
Speaker 1: You know, it always leads with an opportunity.
Speaker 6: If you don't see that opportunity and nothing comes from
Speaker 6: anything else, you know what I'm saying. You have that opportunity,
Speaker 6: and right now people are so distracted with their own
Speaker 6: mindset that they don't see the bigger picture, and that's
Speaker 6: why we're in the situations we are. And now with everything,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, even when there's actual evidence
Speaker 6: in facts given to you. I mean, I understand that
Speaker 6: not everybody can meditate. You know what I'm saying me,
Speaker 6: I have a brain injury. I was going up in
Speaker 6: Afghanistan and I have a traumatic brain injury. I had
Speaker 6: to learn how to meditate. I had to quiet the
Speaker 6: noise in my head. Like that's not easy, especially when
Speaker 6: you got, you know, all these crazy thoughts in your
Speaker 6: head from when you was over there, overseas and shit.
Speaker 6: So you know, a lot of people don't understand. You know,
Speaker 6: everybody has their trials and tribulations, but don't don't. I
Speaker 6: hate when people when somebody's trying to educate somebody, you know, anybody. Really,
Speaker 6: if somebody's trying to educate you just take that, that
Speaker 6: that knowledge and roll with it.
Speaker 5: That's shit.
Speaker 6: If you don't like it, if it don't do nothing
Speaker 6: for you, forget it. But I guarantee you sometime in
Speaker 6: the future you're definitely gonna if you live long enough,
Speaker 6: hopefully that that information that somebody gives you, you know,
Speaker 6: would be beneficial. One of the things that my father
Speaker 6: taught me growing up was uh, and I kind of
Speaker 6: tweaked it a little bit, but this is what he
Speaker 6: told me. He says, a man learns from another man's mistake,
Speaker 6: but a real man will learn from body Elsea's mistake. Right,
Speaker 6: a man will learn from his own mistake, but a
Speaker 6: real man will learn from somebody else's mistake. So basically,
Speaker 6: how I thought about that and I kind of tweaked it,
Speaker 6: is that when I see somebody else doing some dumb
Speaker 6: shit and it gets them into some trouble, I try
Speaker 6: to stay I try to pay attention to that, whether
Speaker 6: it's you know, you know, being having bad information, misinformation, uh,
Speaker 6: being guided through the wrong uh uh rabbit holes, I
Speaker 6: guess you can say, you know, I try to stay
Speaker 6: away from that because they already showed me that if
Speaker 6: I go down that rabbit hole, I'm gonna be ignorant
Speaker 6: because I'm taken away from being from the knowledge that's
Speaker 6: actually out there. And that's really hard to do because
Speaker 6: you can't really determine what is right and wrong until
Speaker 6: you actually do your own research. But that's where it
Speaker 6: comes into, where you do your own due diligence, and
Speaker 6: when you go deep into your own due diligence, you
Speaker 6: get after a while, you start seeing the repeating patterns
Speaker 6: that people say that they think is accurate, but it's
Speaker 6: actual just fiction and throws everything off. But it takes
Speaker 6: that repetitiveness to see that. And once you start grasping that,
Speaker 6: then you won't. You know, it's a lot easier to
Speaker 6: you know, mingle through the world and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: especially when you're going looking for esoteric and exoteric type information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can have one or two reactions, Like after
Speaker 1: listening to this whole conversation, if like, if you're out
Speaker 1: there listening to this, you can sit here and say,
Speaker 1: these guys are full of shit. This guy Carl is
Speaker 1: just talking about how he goes out with these Special
Speaker 1: Forces guys, these Green Beret dudes, and they use telepathy
Speaker 1: to summon UFOs. What an idiot, And then you go
Speaker 1: back to eating your plate of nachos and you don't
Speaker 1: think anything ouse it. You just assume that we're all
Speaker 1: lying to you. Or you can do what I did
Speaker 1: like five years ago, and go I'm going to go
Speaker 1: out and see if I can do this. I'm actually
Speaker 1: going to go out and go back in the canyon,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to be sincere and I'm going to
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not going to tell anybody where I'm going.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go out there and I'm going to
Speaker 1: actually try. And the first couple of times that I
Speaker 1: did that, I realized that I was going to be
Speaker 1: involved in this the rest of my life, because you know,
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. You can sit and down it
Speaker 1: all you want, you can criticize it all you want.
Speaker 1: You can even sit and try to figure it out
Speaker 1: and puzzle over it all you want, reading books and
Speaker 1: mysteries and studying ancient history. Nothing is going to replace
Speaker 1: what happens to you. If you actually just find a
Speaker 1: spot that you can go out and kind of be
Speaker 1: alone under the stars and just sit there and quiet
Speaker 1: your mind. And when you really do that and connect
Speaker 1: and and give it a try, you'll realize how magical
Speaker 1: the universe really is. You'll uh it will respond to you,
Speaker 1: and it'll react to you. You might sit there and think
Speaker 1: that you're bored for a little while, but as the
Speaker 1: night goes on, and as you continue to go back
Speaker 1: and continue to do it, you'll you'll realize what this
Speaker 1: is all about and why people in ancient times that
Speaker 1: weren't all distracted were it was their entire way of
Speaker 1: life and civilization, like you said, like they almost had
Speaker 1: a global society where everybody was into it.
Speaker 6: There was this time where it was like that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I like to say, listen to the rhythm of nature.
Speaker 6: That's how you get involved. That's how you that's how
Speaker 6: you're not bored. When you can listen to the rhythm
Speaker 6: of nature that goes in tune with your body. Because
Speaker 6: everybody has different rhythm, you'll you'll start to notice that
Speaker 6: it'll be easier you head.
Speaker 2: The bird's twart, you.
Speaker 6: Know how how many how often do you think that
Speaker 6: birds are are fucking singing at night? A lot a
Speaker 6: lot go outside and hear them birds screaming at night?
Speaker 6: Don't motherfucker's gotten uh? Vampire or what they what.
Speaker 1: They call it?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: What is it? Sleep problems? Like we do?
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Maybe out there squeaking and
Speaker 6: talking and shit, Like I'm like, damn, there's a lot
Speaker 6: of birds out here, you know, singing, And it's interesting
Speaker 6: because you know, you see that you hear the birds.
Speaker 6: You know, everybody says the birds are supposed to be
Speaker 6: sleeping and everything's supposed to be quiet down and this,
Speaker 6: that and the third. But you have all these species
Speaker 6: out there, from humans to you know, you know, bug
Speaker 6: like species, to anything that's up at night just doing things.
Speaker 6: So it just makes you think, what are we the
Speaker 6: only ones that met it at night? Or is it
Speaker 6: these other species that's out there doing Wolves howling at
Speaker 6: the moon, I mean, come on, you know they speaking
Speaker 6: to a quote unquote, you know, deity type like, because
Speaker 6: the moon is considered a god in some cultures, right,
Speaker 6: So the wolf is howling at the moon, and then
Speaker 6: you got the Norse mythologies about the wolves chasing the moon,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So it's just all this
Speaker 6: stuff plays are very part because you know, you have
Speaker 6: to look up at the sky to understand that. And
Speaker 6: when the wolves are chasing the moon, that's stars can
Speaker 6: be just chasing their.
Speaker 1: You know whatever. You know what I'm saying, however you
Speaker 1: want to take it.
Speaker 6: But the part is just getting that knowledge, and I
Speaker 6: think that's where a lot of the problems is that
Speaker 6: once you get that knowledge, a lot of times, even
Speaker 6: for myself, I do it sometimes too. I feel like
Speaker 6: I know everything, but I only I know everything that
Speaker 6: I know from what I've read, from what I've read,
Speaker 6: I don't know everything overall. And that's where all of
Speaker 6: us have to connect to each other, have these conversations.
Speaker 6: Like I said earlier, whether you like somebody or not,
Speaker 6: if you truly want knowledge, you're going to find.
Speaker 2: A way to work with that person.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, if you truly feel like
Speaker 6: they have enough knowledge to give you, and then you
Speaker 6: can be reciprocated for what you have and all this
Speaker 6: other stuff. But the problem is is that everybody wants
Speaker 6: to be right. Everybody wants to be known, everybody wants
Speaker 6: to have a channel. Everybody wants to make some money,
Speaker 6: and there's no money in this shit. There's really no
Speaker 6: money in this shit. You spend more money out of
Speaker 6: your own pocket trying to give the information to the
Speaker 6: people rather than what's coming in. And then when you
Speaker 6: finally start getting sponsors, that's when everybody said, like the
Speaker 6: word that you use people grifting.
Speaker 1: No, nobody's grifting.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 2: Some people have to take care.
Speaker 1: Of their families.
Speaker 6: Some people have to take care of themselves let alone,
Speaker 6: you know, not just their families, and not only that
Speaker 6: they're doing it for you. You don't have to contribute
Speaker 6: to it. If you don't, you don't have to bash
Speaker 6: them and say they're a grifter. You know, if they're
Speaker 6: giving you information and you want to prove them wrong,
Speaker 6: go ahead and do it.
Speaker 2: We all have the capabilities to do it. Ninety nine
Speaker 2: point nine percent.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say at least eighty nine percent of the
Speaker 6: people in the world have cell phones. Anybody can record
Speaker 6: some shit and prove you wrong. The problem is that
Speaker 6: everybody just talk talk talk. They want to get on
Speaker 6: them keyboards and start hitting them, you know, the keyboard
Speaker 6: real quick.
Speaker 2: So I really appreciate what you do.
Speaker 3: I really do.
Speaker 2: I like what you do. I like the show, I
Speaker 2: love with it. I like your channel.
Speaker 6: Like I said, I've been following you for years since
Speaker 6: at least the COVID time when we was in the
Speaker 6: X spaces.
Speaker 1: So you have a great knowledge. You have a lot
Speaker 1: of fans.
Speaker 6: I mean, everybody's sitting here saying call Crusher is the
Speaker 6: man in the comments, so you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Forget all those other people that give you that negative ifity, bro,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people who like what you're working
Speaker 6: and I'm wonderful.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Everybody in his room right now is one
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I appreciate that. It's very flattering. Kind
Speaker 1: appreciate everybody in the comings too. Being all nice to
Speaker 1: me makes me feel at home here.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: All that equipment Tyrone saw me users because the call
Speaker 4: actually actually inspired me to grant my own equipment and
Speaker 4: go out and use it.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I gotta go do this for real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he remember thought I was asking you
Speaker 4: ship Yeah, yeah, you just sent to me.
Speaker 3: This is what I got.
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, cool, but uh yeah, is
Speaker 4: there anything else that? Uh, because it's almost like two
Speaker 4: hours now. Not that I want to stop, but I mean,
Speaker 4: is there anything else you guys want to talk about it?
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll wrap it up soon.
Speaker 5: This is a great episode, ye.
Speaker 2: Wild Shiro spot you know.
Speaker 6: And I actually got to talk to Carl to crusher
Speaker 6: and got to see him on the digital. Yeah, it
Speaker 6: would be spaces for him for like since COVID man,
Speaker 6: I'd be in the spaces Listen. I'm I'm pretty sure
Speaker 6: you heard me spies out a couple of times.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. Yeah, probably yea or.
Speaker 3: I'll go with everybody with spasms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Carl, why don't you let everybody know where
Speaker 4: they can find all the amazing stuff again one more time?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go buy Carl Crusher everywhere on the internet.
Speaker 1: Almost everything I post goes first on the Patreon and
Speaker 1: then onto YouTube and then everywhere else. Instagram, rumble, TikTok,
Speaker 1: all over. I post clips of everything. I've also on Patreon.
Speaker 1: I've got workshops, ebooks, masterclasses, actual books that I've written,
Speaker 1: video workshops, and then I've just published a book on
Speaker 1: Amazon kind of going through you know, we've talked a
Speaker 1: lot about religion and how all the different ancient esoteric
Speaker 1: systems and cultures we're looking at the same thing. That's
Speaker 1: what my book is all about. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: goes through all the religions and looks at the fundamental
Speaker 1: connection between them all and consciousness. So yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I've been doing, kind of trying to get my knowledge
Speaker 1: out in all different types of media format. But yeah,
Speaker 1: go find me on Carl Crusher and we're right in
Speaker 1: the middle of all the filming and uploading the episodes
Speaker 1: where I'm out with the Psionic team at Thunderstrike Ratch.
Speaker 1: So it's just right now getting ready to finish episode
Speaker 1: like five or six, and there's probably going to be
Speaker 1: close to ten or eleven episodes in that whole series
Speaker 1: by the time we're done.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's cool, nice, awesome man. Yeah, so people keep
Speaker 3: an eye out for that for sure.
Speaker 4: Uh you know what, and if you get if you
Speaker 4: uh the people have never heard of him before, go back.
Speaker 3: It's older, it's all a little old.
Speaker 4: Go check out his Magic Mesa Magic Masa episodes. I
Speaker 4: know that that's old, but to me, that's still stuffs
Speaker 4: still going.
Speaker 1: In fact, by the end of this series, with Mike
Speaker 1: Bautista from the Skywatcher team, we went to Magic Mesa,
Speaker 1: I sat him on the shaman seat there and uh
Speaker 1: yeah we filmed like forty minutes of UAP activity coming
Speaker 1: and going from their Native American reservation there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, thank you, lad you Magic Mayeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Even even just with the the stuff that looks like
Speaker 4: you just shit dripping down the side of it, I
Speaker 4: was just like, Yo, that is weird. So yeah, definitely
Speaker 4: go check out that footage. A little old but impressive stuff.
Speaker 4: Thank you again, Carl, I really appreciate you coming on headless.
Speaker 4: Wan't you let everybody know what's up with you real quick.
Speaker 5: Sir, So, I have a couple of prints that I
Speaker 5: have for sale, So this one right here, I like it.
Speaker 1: If you want it.
Speaker 5: You just email me at Have This Giant Podcast at
Speaker 5: gmail dot com. We're going twenty dollars. If you've got
Speaker 5: your preferred method of payment, I can send those to you.
Speaker 5: So haveless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com. And if
Speaker 5: you have any stories, you can hit me up there
Speaker 5: as well. So thank you very much.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 5: Also, they're going to be at the events that Nick
Speaker 5: is going to be going to, Sue.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so yeah, real quick.
Speaker 4: If you guys want to check us out, me and
Speaker 4: Tyrone will be over in Franklin, North Carolina, October fourth
Speaker 4: and October eighteenth, will be in Fort Myers, Florida. Will
Speaker 4: be at events. The information is already in the show
Speaker 4: notes now, so if you guys want to check out
Speaker 4: that stuff, check it out. Yeah and Tyrone, my man, sure,
Speaker 4: what's going on?
Speaker 6: I appreciate it, man, Thank you so much Nick for
Speaker 6: letting me be here. Man and Carl, I appreciate your
Speaker 6: knowledge and wisdom that you gave us today. You got
Speaker 6: a lot of wisdom on your beard, you know, saying
Speaker 6: see the grades. So I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: H it was a wonderful episode, just like Headless said.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Nick got some over here,
Speaker 2: you got some wings and some but great, great, great,
Speaker 2: great great great, so great knowledge. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: Everything that you can find on me is on my website,
Speaker 6: Rebirth of theWord dot com.
Speaker 2: I am going to buy a painting from Headless one
Speaker 2: of these days. I just need to find the one
Speaker 2: that actually, uh you know.
Speaker 1: It is towards me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So I'm looking for that Headless, So keep up the
Speaker 6: good work, don't stop that. Everything you can find on
Speaker 6: me like it says on my website, Rebirth Ofword dot com.
Speaker 6: And I also wrote the bestseller Journey through the Word
Speaker 6: and History and I appreciate it once again.
Speaker 3: Thank you, oh, thank you. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, sat out to Shara. Unfortunately she wasn't
Speaker 4: gonna make up and things came up. I saw she
Speaker 4: was in the chat, but h yeah she could make it.
Speaker 4: But uh, thank you all again, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: And yo, the chat was on fire. Tonight, you guys
Speaker 4: are awesome. I mean again, this is why I go
Speaker 4: a live, because I really do enjoy Sometimes they do
Speaker 4: get caught up in the chat actually a little bit
Speaker 4: more than I should, but I do enjoy it. I
Speaker 4: like seeing everyone everybody's got to say, and seeing everybody
Speaker 4: enjoy the show.
Speaker 3: That's what's up.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it and until the next one, everybody be
Speaker 4: well later