Speaker 1: You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of
Speaker 1: sight and sound, but of mind, a journey into a
Speaker 1: wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the
Speaker 1: sign post up ahead your next step.
Speaker 2: The Twilight's on.
Speaker 3: Quite why May eleventh is known as Twilight Zone Day.
Speaker 3: Nobody seems to know. Is it a tribute to Rod
Speaker 3: Sailing's military regiment, the five eleventh maybe, or is it
Speaker 3: purposely kept a mystery just to fit with the spirits
Speaker 3: of the show. Will likely never know the answer, but
Speaker 3: does it really matter. If there's an excuse to celebrate
Speaker 3: our favorite series and its creator, then I'm all for it.
Speaker 3: But as we hit mid twenty twenty six, fans of
Speaker 3: The Twilight Zone actually have quite a bit to be
Speaker 3: thankful for. We have the IDW comic series, which is
Speaker 3: keeping the flame burning, or at least the conversation going.
Speaker 3: We have the Roddy McDowell biography, an actor's story, which
Speaker 3: I discussed last episode with its author Samuel Garza Bernstein.
Speaker 3: But there's also something that we haven't touched on yet,
Speaker 3: the upcoming Rod Sailing biography by Rolling Stones Alan Sepinwall.
Speaker 3: It's titled Sailing a Journey into the Twilight Zone with
Speaker 3: TV's first visionary. It's available for pre order now, and
Speaker 3: you'll want to watch this space because that conversation with
Speaker 3: Alan is coming to the show very soon. We also
Speaker 3: have the tenth anniversary of Sailing Fest in Binghamton, New
Speaker 3: York this August, and I'll be sharing details on what
Speaker 3: I'll be doing there very soon. But one of the
Speaker 3: guests this year is director Jonah Thulis, who'll be discussing
Speaker 3: his new documentary Sailing, which just premiered ATXSW the Film
Speaker 3: and Television Festival back in March. Now, I couldn't make
Speaker 3: it ToxS W myself, but thankfully our man in Buddha,
Speaker 3: Texas was there to share the event with us. Now,
Speaker 3: I love it when we can do this. It reminds
Speaker 3: me of when our friend Gus Halwada reported from the
Speaker 3: Night Gallery event in Vegas, or when Brandon Shaye Mattala
Speaker 3: interviewed Mark Zickary at a convention. Because this is a community,
Speaker 3: So if you have a sailing related event happening near you,
Speaker 3: then please send it my way and I'll play it
Speaker 3: on the show. So to celebrate Twilight Zone Day twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six and the premiere of Sailing Take It Away.
Speaker 3: Harold Clark.
Speaker 1: That time travel then got tremendous reaction, and because of
Speaker 1: its reaction, the network, the CBS Network, who I had
Speaker 1: approached over the past three years to try to get
Speaker 1: something in the science fiction genre on, took another second
Speaker 1: look at it, and as a result, I got Twilight Zonin.
Speaker 4: Harold Clark reporting live from downtown Austin, Texas, right off
Speaker 4: of Congress Street and downtown. I am currently standing outside
Speaker 4: the State Theater, which is right next to the Paramount Theater,
Speaker 4: and we are waiting to get in to see the
Speaker 4: world premiere of the documentary Serling. I was able to
Speaker 4: get a ticket because of my good friend Ken Ken Cornine,
Speaker 4: who's with me. He's volunteering for south By Southwest and
Speaker 4: by volunteering, you know, you get access into some various
Speaker 4: things that you want to get into, and you can
Speaker 4: bring a companion, and he was nice enough to make
Speaker 4: me his companion for the day. So so ooh those
Speaker 4: birds get ready for Sirlin so so yeah, So we're
Speaker 4: just waiting for the doors to open to let us in.
Speaker 5: I don't think we'll have a problem getting in, but
Speaker 5: we will see.
Speaker 4: So so Ken, you describe of yourself as a casual
Speaker 4: fan or more more than casual.
Speaker 6: Well, like I said, I'm definitely not on your caliber fanship,
Speaker 6: but definitely I grew up with with the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 6: My mom always was putting Twilight Zone on for us,
Speaker 6: and I remember when I was a kid, I used
Speaker 6: to set the VCR for the late night airings of
Speaker 6: twilights up Twilight Zone episodes. So I had at some
Speaker 6: point I had like dozens of VHS tapes of the episodes.
Speaker 6: I'm familiar with a lot of the episodes. I can't
Speaker 6: say that I know all the names of certain episodes,
Speaker 6: but like, once I start seeing you know a portion
Speaker 6: of it, I'm you know, it definitely rings a bell.
Speaker 6: And I can remember, you know, watching a lot of
Speaker 6: those episodes as a kid.
Speaker 2: Definitely.
Speaker 4: Well, there are there are uber fans on the Twilight
Speaker 4: Zone podcast that or just like you the remember episode
Speaker 4: titles love you Emmy.
Speaker 2: But no, that's fine.
Speaker 5: So so.
Speaker 2: What uh, in.
Speaker 5: General, what do you what do you know.
Speaker 4: About shirling like outside of Twilight Zone or or or
Speaker 4: anything like that, or is it just your knowledge of
Speaker 4: it limited to Twilight Zone and that gallery.
Speaker 2: Maybe you know things like that.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm actually looking forward to the to the documentary
Speaker 6: documentary to to you know, get more a lot more
Speaker 6: insight into who he was and his his life. My
Speaker 6: wife Jennifer actually features him when she was teaching in
Speaker 6: high school.
Speaker 2: TV production teatured you.
Speaker 6: Know, well, highlight on Rod Serling and the Twilight Zone
Speaker 6: and what is the episode the Monsters on me? Yeah,
Speaker 6: being in her her teaching in my school. Definitely, so
Speaker 6: she's she actually probably knows more than I do, even
Speaker 6: though she's you know, maybe not the fan that we.
Speaker 5: Are going right here, you know.
Speaker 6: Definitely, I'm looking forward to to.
Speaker 5: Hearing a lot about this film today.
Speaker 4: So I went to surling Fest twenty twenty four and
Speaker 4: the shirt that I weren't and one of the neat
Speaker 4: things that they had there was they had a segment
Speaker 4: of sirling Fest and it was Rod Serling in his
Speaker 4: own words.
Speaker 5: And Andrea went with me, my wife Andrea, and.
Speaker 4: She she's a very casual, you know, Twilight Zone fan,
Speaker 4: and so for her that was very enlightening because this
Speaker 4: was a lot of the interviews and just you know,
Speaker 4: talks that he had colleges and other things like that,
Speaker 4: and just it covered the gam gambit of of what
Speaker 4: he thought about of life and humanity.
Speaker 5: And and and and and.
Speaker 4: Television producing and writing and all of that stuff. So
Speaker 4: so I imagine they'll reuse some of that footage, least
Speaker 4: a lot of that footage, but I hear that they will.
Speaker 4: That they were able to uncover some some home video
Speaker 4: stuff that's probably snipper been seen before from from Ant
Speaker 4: Serling and so so yeah.
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm I'm super curious to see how this says.
Speaker 2: It's ninety eight.
Speaker 4: Minutes, so that's a that's a good long time to
Speaker 4: to really dive in, you know, to the life of Serlin.
Speaker 5: And again, who knows. Once this comes out, I.
Speaker 4: Hope that that more people will it'll peauk their interest
Speaker 4: and and they'll want to go and and and and
Speaker 4: learn a little bit more about Serlin.
Speaker 5: So we will. We will see what happens.
Speaker 4: So let's uh, they're letting out I guess the whatever
Speaker 4: the other film that was the previous film, So hopefully
Speaker 4: we will be going in soon.
Speaker 1: What you're about to see, gentlemen, is a series called
Speaker 1: The Twilight's On. We think it's a rather special kind
Speaker 1: of series. This is a series for the storyteller, because
Speaker 1: it's I thinking that an audience will always sit still
Speaker 1: and listen and watch a well told story. Now that
Speaker 1: I've am modestly gone on record predicting the high quality
Speaker 1: of this series, let me very briefly show you what
Speaker 1: we mean by a special kind of series.
Speaker 2: Here you go.
Speaker 5: So I am now outside.
Speaker 4: We're about ten minutes before we get to go in
Speaker 4: and see Sirlin. I have come across a couple of
Speaker 4: Serlin fans that actually found out have have lived, you know,
Speaker 4: next door to me in southern California, so we're already bonded.
Speaker 5: Sileime.
Speaker 7: Introduce you too, Evelyn Machen and alys Alice Army.
Speaker 5: And you're here to watch Serlin. And I hear that
Speaker 5: you're big fans. Yes, So what do you.
Speaker 4: Remember about tarilotte'sh Serlin and all that stuff? What were
Speaker 4: your earliest memories.
Speaker 8: Being very scared and I heard his voice and when
Speaker 8: the show started, but yet I stayed to watch and see.
Speaker 8: We would get in the living room with our pillows
Speaker 8: and the show would start, and you know, and back
Speaker 8: then it was like amazing. That was the technology, and
Speaker 8: it was really scary a lot of it stuck with me.
Speaker 4: Nice and you're and you're about forty five years old,
Speaker 4: so and how about you, what's your memories?
Speaker 7: Always when I was a kid, my mom and my
Speaker 7: stepdad had started playing it during New Year's because there
Speaker 7: were the New Year's Eve marathons. So I was very
Speaker 7: big into TV and film, still am, but I just
Speaker 7: remember watching those up until midnight and then you know,
Speaker 7: celebrating New Year's but it would be every single episode,
Speaker 7: like every single episode straight, and I was just sat
Speaker 7: down for all of it. So yeah, I think that
Speaker 7: my earliest memories is just like celebrating the New Year
Speaker 7: with the Twilight.
Speaker 4: Favorite episodes for you, oh so many, oh so many episodes.
Speaker 7: Let's see, Well, there's the classic where it's the kid
Speaker 7: that everyone is scared of it. Yeah, it's a good.
Speaker 5: Life a thing. Yeah it's cold here in Austin.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what a class Like. It was so well done
Speaker 7: and it was so scary, but it was so simple
Speaker 7: and it didn't have to use like Gore, It didn't
Speaker 7: have to use anything other than just like the the
Speaker 7: context of like, Okay, something's going on with Timmy. That's
Speaker 7: all you need to know, and then everyone is scared
Speaker 7: of him. You don't need to know what it can do.
Speaker 7: You don't really need to know anything other than just
Speaker 7: like this child is. He's very powerful.
Speaker 5: It's very vowerful.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's a that's a great episode, well for you.
Speaker 8: So it's the one where the lady is driving, Yeah,
Speaker 8: and she gets run off the road or she she
Speaker 8: has a flat and then she's dead, but then she
Speaker 8: keeps driving.
Speaker 7: Is that is that?
Speaker 4: I think that's is that you drive meeting.
Speaker 5: A couple of driving?
Speaker 8: Yes, anyways, and so she's driving and she calls her
Speaker 8: mom and and the lady's like, don't go.
Speaker 5: On my way right right right, and and the mom's.
Speaker 8: Like, you know, the mom's friend is like, how dare you?
Speaker 8: And her daughter just died in a car crash? And uh,
Speaker 8: that scared me because sometimes I'm driving and I wonder
Speaker 8: if I did you wait a minute, what if I died?
Speaker 7: And I think that's still driving?
Speaker 5: So what what? What do you anticipate?
Speaker 4: What are you expecting about to get from this documentary?
Speaker 4: I mean, what are you looking forward to.
Speaker 8: Or or just I think I'd like to learn more
Speaker 8: about him, yeah, because you know, I think he was
Speaker 8: a pioneer. Yep, he was a pioneer of his time.
Speaker 8: And it's always interesting to see what drove them and
Speaker 8: what their thoughts were because Twilight Zone changed everybody's life, yep.
Speaker 5: Well, and people were trying to figure out what TV
Speaker 5: was about at all. You know, that was a brand
Speaker 5: new medium, so what could you do with it?
Speaker 4: And I'm sure we'll hear about his fights with the
Speaker 4: sponsors and and and.
Speaker 5: And you know, the the whatever in the in the
Speaker 5: studio and what you could and couldn't do and emit
Speaker 5: till and all of that stuff, you know. And yeah,
Speaker 5: so so I was.
Speaker 1: Able to go off.
Speaker 4: I was able to go to sling Fest a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago for the for the Statue in Veiling,
Speaker 4: which was really nice and they had a whole about
Speaker 4: a forty five minute segment of just Rod Sterling in
Speaker 4: his own words, and there was a lot of stuff
Speaker 4: that I had never heard about and just again, so
Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to that, just seeing the human
Speaker 4: side of it, yea. And who knows, maybe maybe they
Speaker 4: will show some footage from the Statue in Veiling because
Speaker 4: you know, whole family was there and there was probably
Speaker 4: three four hundred people there.
Speaker 5: Oh so yeah, so we'll see looking forward.
Speaker 4: I think they're getting ready to let us in, So
Speaker 4: thank you for r.
Speaker 5: Wil podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 9: Kind of mind blowing how wildly ahead of the curve
Speaker 9: he was on so many things that what he's saying
Speaker 9: and talking about are still so applicable today. It is
Speaker 9: a really masterful portrait of a very very expansive mind.
Speaker 9: To just sort of elaborate a little bit more about that,
Speaker 9: i'd like to bring up director John talk to us.
Speaker 9: Thank you so much and thank you so much for
Speaker 9: having me. I want to thank south By Southwest and
Speaker 9: Cludic Cofret and Peter and the team in Verity Productions
Speaker 9: and Happy Way and all our Carbreat collaborators.
Speaker 2: And we're really excited to sort of show this film
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 8: I think this is a story they.
Speaker 2: Need to be told, and you know, we're very very.
Speaker 9: Excited that, uh uh, you're getting to.
Speaker 8: Share with you guys are today?
Speaker 5: How do you think?
Speaker 2: Who are your plus today? Let's see you guys for
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 10: And at the meantime enjoyed them.
Speaker 4: So much of what he wrote was because he did
Speaker 4: want to comment on social conditions.
Speaker 7: We just started talking to the competition, So.
Speaker 4: Thank you for qutting us out whoa grab you can't
Speaker 4: slice that shirt?
Speaker 5: Oh yes, No, I was gonna say.
Speaker 7: I'll be there this year.
Speaker 4: Well good, well I was there in twenty twenty four
Speaker 4: when they debut the statue.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad that you put that in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was that was a huge thing to here. Was
Speaker 2: that the actual carousel in the in the movie.
Speaker 9: So no, we we had shot due to tax credits
Speaker 9: in Rhode Island match a carousel which is actually kind
Speaker 9: of better.
Speaker 10: The carousel there is little too tight in case.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't film, gotcha? Okay, film?
Speaker 7: We did go to that carousel, Thom figure out.
Speaker 2: Ah, well that's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, we you know, it was just
Speaker 4: so great to when they unveiled that and to go
Speaker 4: into that park and to see the carousel and just go.
Speaker 5: To his house and and and look around and.
Speaker 2: Go wow, this is what inspired his childhood.
Speaker 4: That he as he said, he harkened back when he
Speaker 4: was in his late thirties, going man, I could just
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 2: Ride that carousel one more time, you know. So so
Speaker 2: again we appreciate it.
Speaker 4: So you said, you're coming to Sturly Fish, do you know,
Speaker 4: are they going to be able to debut the feller
Speaker 4: because I have them allowed.
Speaker 9: But I don't know, I feel like baby, say or
Speaker 9: do something.
Speaker 2: He'll be something. You got a lot of friends.
Speaker 6: I'm actually that we're gonna be Dynasty.
Speaker 2: Well you know, I'm.
Speaker 5: Kind of a surrogate for the whole Twilight Zone.
Speaker 4: Podcast for Tom Elliott. Oh and and so yeah, a
Speaker 4: lot of people were.
Speaker 10: Like, oh you be that's someone on your team at last.
Speaker 4: Early best Okay Chad boy maybe yes, ah, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: he he was doing the interviews for them, So okay,
Speaker 4: he's a good guy.
Speaker 2: He owes me money, but he's a good guy.
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, well that's good. Now they're they're.
Speaker 2: They're hoping again.
Speaker 5: They did say that they had to get permission from
Speaker 5: you or whoever.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, we'll definitely try to do something. Well, I
Speaker 10: don't know what.
Speaker 7: I don't know why.
Speaker 5: Okay, we'll good.
Speaker 2: Well again, Well, well I hope Central Texas is treating
Speaker 2: you well.
Speaker 4: It is it is this crazy Texas weather being called.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I can't thank you very much.
Speaker 4: That was I very much enjoyed it. He got so
Speaker 4: tired of trying to make statements who is regular television
Speaker 4: that he decided, well, if he'd do it through fantasy
Speaker 4: and science fiction.
Speaker 5: Or you can get away with it.
Speaker 4: So we have exited the movie. Theater finished the movie.
Speaker 4: Theater walked a couple of blocks down to a cafe
Speaker 4: to get some hot coffee because it is cold here
Speaker 4: in Texas, crazy Texas weather. So yeah, so they did.
Speaker 4: The movie had a little bit of Q and A
Speaker 4: at the end. So again here with Ken and just
Speaker 4: give a couple of our initial thoughts of the documentary.
Speaker 4: So any would you think about it?
Speaker 2: Overall?
Speaker 6: I love I thought it was very very informative and
Speaker 6: a lot of fun to watch. Probably the I hate
Speaker 6: to say it, I'll probably be the butt of jokes
Speaker 6: among you and your friends, but I feel like I'm
Speaker 6: totally ignorant of the fact that Rod Thirling was co
Speaker 6: writer on the Planet of the Apes, which I loved
Speaker 6: the Planet of the Apes growing up. Well, and now
Speaker 6: that I know that it makes total sense, well, I.
Speaker 4: Am going to direct you back to one of the
Speaker 4: Twilight Zone podcast episodes where Tom dives into that he
Speaker 4: he he. He did the initial treatment of it, but
Speaker 4: but the studio got involved and and Rod's vision of
Speaker 4: what Planet of the Apes was was a lot different
Speaker 4: than like the movie tenneby the end. The end was
Speaker 4: totally Rod serling. Oh yeah, but he he yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so so I will I will send you back to
Speaker 4: that episode.
Speaker 2: It's actually really well done. Yeah, that was probably the
Speaker 2: most surprising thing that I got out of it. I
Speaker 2: wieved it was like an aha moment. So it was.
Speaker 4: I think it was a very traditional style documentary.
Speaker 2: It was. It was.
Speaker 4: It was done in a very linear I mean it
Speaker 4: was it was the run flash yeah like that. So
Speaker 4: it was very clear what year they're talking about. And
Speaker 4: you know, as the years came on, you you could say, okay,
Speaker 4: well here here, we're getting close to twilight, Zionner, We're
Speaker 4: getting close to to not gallery things like that. I
Speaker 4: thought archive bal Yes, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 4: home video, a lot of home video footage, and they
Speaker 4: they did make the decision.
Speaker 2: To use.
Speaker 4: Actors to portray Rod and Carol Surley and I saw
Speaker 4: and and of course all of that footage is either
Speaker 4: shot from the back, so you know, the profile of
Speaker 4: the actor certainly looks like Rod. He knows how to
Speaker 4: hold a cigarette.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of cigare smoking.
Speaker 4: A lot of cigarette, yes, and but also either shot
Speaker 4: from the back or shot in and and blurry vision, you.
Speaker 2: Know, distance visions.
Speaker 4: So so you didn't have to have the the the
Speaker 4: the actual look of Rob Serland, but you know the mannerisms,
Speaker 4: you know. So so that was that was nice that
Speaker 4: they were able to do that to fill in, you know,
Speaker 4: because a lot of it has shown him type another typewriter.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 4: I was wondering if all of that audio footage was Rod,
Speaker 4: or if they got a voice actor to maybe read
Speaker 4: some of.
Speaker 2: His written word.
Speaker 4: Not sure, but it seemed to indicate at the end
Speaker 4: that yeah, they had a lot of recordings.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and with the Q and A with the director afterwards,
Speaker 6: he's it seemed to be that they uner you know,
Speaker 6: recordings tapes that maybe the family had.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So two things kind of struck me.
Speaker 4: One was they described Rod Serling as an extrovert. I
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that myself, because you know, when you
Speaker 4: see him as like the narrator, you know, he seems
Speaker 4: like a you know, kind of a quiet, shy well,
Speaker 4: I mean, he was shy on camera, as they said,
Speaker 4: he was very nervous to do those do the introductions,
Speaker 4: clenched teeth talking and as they said, So I thought
Speaker 4: that was you know, interesting, But the main one of
Speaker 4: the main things that struck me was.
Speaker 2: It's later on.
Speaker 4: Uh, it's during the Vietnam War, and he's basically saying, hey, man,
Speaker 4: television viewers, they don't want to hear the hard stuff,
Speaker 4: you know, they they you know, they got all these
Speaker 4: complaints because because they wanted to see the.
Speaker 2: I Love Lucy Show instead of the Senate.
Speaker 5: Hearings or whatever. And how Rod was.
Speaker 4: Very disappointed in the television audience.
Speaker 2: So focused on escapism.
Speaker 4: Yes, and and and you think about that back in Vietnam,
Speaker 4: and now what do we have now? Now we have
Speaker 4: social media and now now you know, the audience they
Speaker 4: can only take thirty second.
Speaker 6: Snippets, you know, yeah, no attention spend.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know, I was reminded, I forget it was
Speaker 4: a musical artist. Maybe this is probably a good fifteen
Speaker 4: years ago. But you know when apps, you know, when
Speaker 4: you could go to the app store and buy all
Speaker 4: these you know, only little apps. And he was this,
Speaker 4: this music musician was lamenting the fact that he could
Speaker 4: spend all this time right in the song and then
Speaker 4: put it on the app store for nine sense. Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: for Nana nine sense, you could get an app that
Speaker 4: made fart noises and he's like, man, where is the
Speaker 4: where is the balance there?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 4: So but but yeah, another thing that stuck out to
Speaker 4: me was the music.
Speaker 2: I thought. I thought the.
Speaker 4: Music was was well placed, you know, sentimental when it
Speaker 4: needed to be, harder when it needed to be there
Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily I didn't catch up on black like, you know,
Speaker 4: this is the rod Sterling theme.
Speaker 2: But but but I thought the music was really well done.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, no, you.
Speaker 4: Know, we're we're we we both enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I think we learned.
Speaker 2: We learned some stuff.
Speaker 4: You Yeah, definitely you're gonna go let'sten to a podcast
Speaker 4: soon and uh maybe popping plant of the apes just because.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so there you go. So there's the world
Speaker 4: premiere of Surling. I don't know what the when it
Speaker 4: will be coming out to a theater near you. We
Speaker 4: did talk to the U to the director, and he
Speaker 4: will be at serling Fest this year, he said. However,
Speaker 4: apparently it's not up to him whether he wants to
Speaker 4: debut the movie at surling Fest. So more to come
Speaker 4: on that. But anyway, there's our report. So this is
Speaker 4: Harold Clark and and mister King Corney signing off from
Speaker 4: downtown Austin, Texas.
Speaker 3: Harold, thank you so much for taking the time to
Speaker 3: do that. I really love getting the flavor of an
Speaker 3: event from people who are there. So, like I said
Speaker 3: that the Starter's show, if you've got something going on
Speaker 3: near you, then please don't hesitate to send something in.
Speaker 3: Now the documentary itself, I know that Jonah Thulis is
Speaker 3: going to be a sailing fest. Hopefully I'll catch some
Speaker 3: words with him there. We will see, but either way,
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see the documentary, and like I
Speaker 3: said earlier on, it is one of several things that
Speaker 3: we've got to be thankful for this year as fans
Speaker 3: of the Twilight Zone and of Rod Sailing. So thank
Speaker 3: you once again, Harold, and I will speak to you soon.
Speaker 3: Everyone here on the Twilight Zone podcast. By for now.
Speaker 8: The protect Right, thet out