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a little college football commentary. Welcoming a UH former by

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Speaker 2: Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome and former BYU. Great.

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We got John Beck on the line. John, how are

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you oh?

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Speaker 4: Hanging in there? Ben? A little tough weekend, lost in

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the championship game down here in CIF finals, So a

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little bit of a tough pill to swallow in the

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Beck couse. It was hard, but we're gonna move forward.

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Speaker 2: What does the pipe chart of accountability look like? Due

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to that loss?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what does that look like when you went

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back and watch tape? You know, what would you have

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changed about that game?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's like any loss in a championship game, right,

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you just you go back and you look at like

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what plays impacted the momentum of the game, what plays

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in critical situations impacted the game? And you know it's

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never you know, it's never about one guy or one

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position or something like that. It's always just like man

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as a team, you watch yourself put in the work,

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the effort, you execute and all the games leading up

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and you take advantage of opportunity. And we were actually

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at one point ahead seventeen to three in the second quarter,

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and they took advantage of some opportunities on some drives.

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We weren't able to connect on some critical situations, settled

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for field goals at other times, and in the second

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half kind of we're reeling a little bit, trying to

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piece together drives and they had some momentum that they

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capitalized on, and unfortunate at the end we lost by thirteen.

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So it's tough, man. It's tough being a coach on

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the team, helping out all throughout the year, having a

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son that was playing quarterback for us, all those things

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just make you way more invested, and so it hurts.

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It hurts for the seniors. You know, you hurt for

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all the other coaches and players that have put in

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a lot of time and effort because you're right there.

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The game was actually at a home field also, and

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so it's like what could have been, you know, could

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have been that historic, amazing moment right on our field

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with our fans, and ended up being gut wrenching and

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just walking off the field and then you know, you

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didn't think you're going to lose it, and somehow the

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end you do.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry that the Begs didn't get their championship,

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but hey, you learn more through your losses than you

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do your wins.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, that's what we're.

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Speaker 4: Kind of holding on to for the future years. You know,

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my son's young, just a sophomore, and we got a

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lot of other young players on the team, and you know,

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you got to tip your hat to the other team.

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They made a lot of plays and you know, we

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had some good conversations about what you learn from those experiences,

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what you gain and managing some of the situations differently,

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and also the fire that burns within you when you

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get that close and you have all of that motivation

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heading into the offseason, and how great that can be.

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And in comparison, sometimes when you win all of the time,

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you don't necessarily feel the same way, you don't hurt

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the same way, and you don't have that same fire

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when things are always going good. And I think that's

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why sometimes the losses can really propel you forward in

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a way wins can't.

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Speaker 3: John Beck here on ESPN the Fan Little College Football segment,

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there's a lot of chaos bruin on but let's uh,

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let's talk.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk about the chaos real quick.

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Speaker 3: There have been now reports and I've been able to

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confirm these from multiple sources, that that Penn State is

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aggressively sought uh to to offer Kalini Satocki the next

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head coaching job at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Kilani and his agents have have heard it. Now.

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Speaker 3: He went in front of the media early today and said, like,

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I'm not going to discuss any you know, rumors. I'm

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focused on the big Toeal Championship, but he didn't deny

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those conversations had been executed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy to me. Kilani is b

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Yu threw and through.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's important from a professional standpoint to hear these

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offerings and then to go back to the negotiating table

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with BA and say.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is what I'm being offered.

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Speaker 3: You know, what is it that you're going to do,

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and to invest in the future, invest in me, invest

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in our coaching staff, invest in Nil. What do you

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make of all the chaos that's occurring right now surrounding

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BYU and.

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Speaker 4: The like, Well, I mean it's one of those without

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saying too much things just because of the connections I have.

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Kilanie's agent was my agent that I had when I

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was a player that I still stay in contact with,

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and so like, look the reality. I mean, it's kind

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of crazy. I literally just got off the phone with

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that agent about other things regarding NFL draft prep stuff

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right before this calls. Here. Here's the thing. It's amazing

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for Kilani because of the person that he is, the

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success that BAU has been able to have. Of course,

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teams are going to be coming after a guy like

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him who has led the program the way he has.

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It's because of everything that Byu has done. Of course,

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major programs are going to be coming after him. And truthfully,

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there is always way more that most people know in

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terms of the teams that are coming after Kilanie. Talking

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to Kilanie right like this is just one of those

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ones that you know, enough smoke or like enough was

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the round there of other people hearing that. Now, how

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you know the world's finding out or Kugar Nation is

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finding out. But when when you have the type of

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success that they've had, every school wants consistency, and if

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you look at Kilane and what he has been at BYU,

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it has been very consistent. And I know that there's

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been a few years that were rough years, but overall,

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the consistency has been there. You look at his staff, consistency,

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people staying, you look at the what it happened the

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last two years. By U is arguably one of the

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most consistent winnable programs in the country over the last

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two years. So yes, the Penn States of the world

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are going to be coming after him. I think Kilani

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loves BYU. This is not a thing of does he

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love BYU or not. Everybody knows how much it means

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to him. Everybody knows how much of the season means

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to him. I know that probably BUYU and Kugarnation is

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freaking out because of we're all watching the Lane Kiffin

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situation happened, and a guy gets, you know, the opportunity

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to go to LSU, and all miss fans who a

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few days ago absolutely loved him are now showing up

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at the airport screaming and yelling at him, you know,

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and hating him. You know. Good buddy of mine called

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me today and was like, I hope he never ever

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steps foot in Mississippi again, you know. I mean, look,

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it's tough. It's tough when you feel like there's a

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chance of somebody getting pulled away. I think that I'm

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sure all of the football people are focusing on what

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matters most, and that's the Big Chop Championship. I'm sure

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that everyone in the building cares more about that right

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now than anything else. I'm sure Colanie is the same way,

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everything that you put into it. I just think it's

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probably harder for everybody else on the outside because they

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don't know what's going on. You know, these type of

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things don't just happen overnight those schools like a Penn State,

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even though everybody's finding out about it in the last

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few days. Those type of things don't happen over the

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last few days. Those things happen over weeks. And so look,

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it's just going to continue Kilanie. You know, you have

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to give him space to do what he fills his

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best and whatever he does, I'm happy for him, you know,

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either way, I want to see him stay at bau Do.

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I love what you has become with him at the Helm.

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I love the person that Kilanie is. But that's ultimately

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his decision and no one else's. So we'll just have

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to all sit back and see what happens.

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Speaker 2: BYU was his dream job, BYU is his dream job?

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Speaker 3: What would entice someone to leave their dream job, right,

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what is it, you know, just generational money that would

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do that?

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Speaker 2: Is it the feeling of.

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Speaker 3: You know, I remember when Bronco was at BYU, it

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kind of always felt like he didn't get respect, maybe

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from fans and maybe he didn't give it to them donors,

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maybe the administration. He always felt like he was fighting

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an internal battle. I don't think that that's Kilanie, But

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at the same time, you wonder it's like, okay, generational

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money versus you know, a feeling of respect and mutual

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mutual respect for a job well done, et cetera. But

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you know, wanted to get your thoughts. Why would you

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leave a a job that was your dream job.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't speak for what Kloni is going through,

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but I can just tell you from the men that

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I've been around and seen them in similar situations. I've

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seen some people it's about a new challenge. It's about

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they love the new challenge of something. For other people,

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it's it's stuff has been weighing on them. You might

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not know what goes on behind closed doors. You might

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not know the relationships that are happening. And even though

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the program is winning, what's the conversations happening behind closed

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doors with the upper level people there, you know, like

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how much support does the person always feel at all

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times to do what he wants to do. Sometimes when

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these other schools come calling, it's with you know, people

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think it's with oh, because they have the open checkbook,

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it's about money, But a lot of it comes down

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to the conversations about about support, about like aligning themselves

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with the vision that that coach has. You know, you

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want to feel alignment in the NFL. You call it

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to ups in the downstairs, right, Like the upstairs it's

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all the management people. It's your scouting department, it's your

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general manager, it's the president, it's all of those people

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in the downstairs as the football people. You want there

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to be alignment within the upstairs and the downstairs. And

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I can't speak for what level of alignment is going on,

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you know, but like it can be some of those

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things too. Of you know, you're hearing somebody offer a

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situation that might be enticing because of that, Like I

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know for people that like, oh my gosh, you could

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never pass up one hundred million dollars, like well, one

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hundred million dollars doesn't bring happiness, it just brings a

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little bit more comfort. I guarantee there are things that

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he's having to think about about his family, about his children,

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about the location. I mean, there are so many things

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that go into this. It's not just the hell. You know,

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how thick can we fill up my pockets? And Klane

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is such a good guy that cares so deeply about BYU.

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I like, I know all of those things have to

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be going through his mind. And I mean, you know,

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you talk about Bronco. I remember how shocked we all

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were when like when Bronco left and Bronco had his

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reasons right, and I think Holly even I read a

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statement one time the Holly said, the shoes shocked, you know,

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and that's his partner, you know, that's his spouse. Like

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sometimes internally inside of all of us, you know, like

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there are just things that feel compelling, that feel motivational.

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Why do families just sometimes pack up and move and say,

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Jackson Hole, Wyoming was calling us and we felt like

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that's where we needed to be. Like we can't argue

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with that. If a person has that feeling inside of

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them that it feels right, And I'm not saying that

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he's experiencing any of that, but I just think if

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I was in that position, a place that I loved,

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that I had dreamed of coaching at, and yet these

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some other place that I had never imagined was coming calling,

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should I do? And you know, what's right for my

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family first and foremost what's right for me. I would

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consult with my heavenly father of you know, is like,

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is this the right thing for us? And crap, if

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if I had all of the feelings that I was

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supposed to pack up the family and go, you know,

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you got to honor a man's compelling reasons and his

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and his like design for his life of what he

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feels like he's being called to do. And if that's

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the case, then you just thank the person for everything

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that they did and you wish them all the best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I've been told two stories here and I want

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to get your thoughts on it. Number One, Klan he

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met with with Brian Shane, Shane Reece Keith working and

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they came to an accord that would be deemed a

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fair market value and investment in the program that is

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based off of the the last six years of productivity

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under Klane.

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Speaker 2: And his vision.

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Speaker 3: And now that that those requests, whatever the pay raise is,

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whatever the institutional investment will be for coaches and ni

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L for the players, will be evaluated by Elder Clark

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Gilbert over CS, he oversees b YU, and then that

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will be run up the food chain, the chain of command,

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if you will, to the board of Trustees and the

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Church of Jesus Christ Letter Saints leadership.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's got to be approved.

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Speaker 3: The other story, and there's optimism brewing that that we

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can figure this out, especially because of what's been invested

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in basketball over the years the last two years, specifically

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with an NBA coaching staff essentially and NIL offering that

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is as competitive as anybody's within hoop. So that's the

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first story I've been told. The second story is one

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that he's already gone. He's already in principle agreed to

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to coach at Penn State, and Penn State's creating a

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very aggressive push to get him and any coaches and

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any players and executing helping him find more inroads with

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Northeast recruiting. But they want him to be that figurehead

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that visionary and that b Yu would you know, then

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resort to finding that next head coach because they can't

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compete resource wise with a eight figure sum and essentially

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unlimited resource is that Kilani would receive at Pench State.

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from credible sources. Mind you like, they're they're from credible sources,

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and uh, you know, I felt, you know, when I

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heard each one of these stories, I felt pretty confident

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that they were accurate. And I know you have your

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you're abreast of a lot of different things that we are.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I guess can you ease the uh the tension and

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maybe the anxiety of cougarnation with anything right now?

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Speaker 2: John?

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Speaker 4: I mean I I honestly can't. I just you know,

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I'm sure if like my life depended on it and

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I got to go find out what's going on, but

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I kind of just you know, I mean, look like

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the reality is something that as you were talking, I

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was thinking about something else that all head coaches care

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deeply about is their assistance. Yeah, because you know that

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you are only as good as the people around you.

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It goes for players. The game is about players. You

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got to have good football players. If you want to

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be a good football team, it doesn't matter how good

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of a staff you have, how smart of a staff

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you have, Like you have to have good football players.

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And then if you have good football players but you

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don't have good teachers, you don't have people that can

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help the kids understand, that can help them feel confident

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in what they're being asked to do. They can they

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can make adjustments in games. If you don't have that,

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I don't care how talented the kids are, they can't

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go do it on their own. You have to have both.

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And so, like I know in these things that he's

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going through, he's thinking about his assistants. He's thinking about

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all of those guys and saying, like what, you know,

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how might their lives change? How might their trajectory change?

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Like is BYU the dream job of all of those assistants?

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Do all of those guys plan on staying there forever?

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Like we all hope? You know, Like what if a

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lot of those guys have big dreams of trajectory of

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going other places? You know, you look at some of

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the guys on the staff that aren't of the LEDs faith,

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even thinking BYU is going to be on their road map,

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you know, as a landing spot. But there they are,

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and they probably have had a great experience, but they

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got high hopes and big dreams and maybe landing somewhere else.

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some of those guys. And sometimes it's the opportunity to

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be paid more at one stop that elevates you in

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terms of your pay. If there's other stops after that one,

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you know, And you know, here's thing too, We all

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know how difficult the coaching life is for college coaches.

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It is a hard life. It's a hard life in

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spring when you're on the road for all the recruiting.

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It's a hard life in season. The coaching life is

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a tough life, and people want to feel like they've

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earned their pay, meaning like I'm getting paid what I deserve,

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you know, And a head coach he wants every person

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on that staff to be able to maximize their ability

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to have that feeling I am getting paid what I

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deserve and I'm maximizing my potential as a coach in

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earning Because a lot of wives and a lot of

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kids go without seeing their dads for a lot of

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the time during the year during football season. And I

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was in that position, I would on a want all

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of those people helping me on that staff to be

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paid as much as they possibly can for their major sacrifices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. John.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about players too, Like we see these moves

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that occurr in college football and coordinators go with them,

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and you wonder, Okay, well, your position coach and your

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coordinator matter a lot the scheme that you're running. The

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continuity chemistry means a lot there, and that will also

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impact BYU's roster and and so you wonder It's like, okay,

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let's say Killani goes And I'm not saying he is.

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I'm just saying, like, what if he does, does a

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Rod go with him? And as an extension of that,

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does bear Bachmeyer go with him?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: That these are all domino effects that we could we

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could see happening this offseason.

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Speaker 4: They are, They absolutely are. Here's what I would do

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if I was the all of YU fans right now

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that are sitting at their workstations stressing out over what's

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going to happen. Here's what I do. I would remind

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myself that BYU has one of the biggest games in

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the history of the program happening on Saturday, and that

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is what's the biggest thing. And I know it's the

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biggest thing for the coaches, it's the biggest thing for

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the players, and this should be something for fans to enjoy. Like,

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as frustrated as I am about my team's loss on

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Saturday and all the ways that I feel like maybe

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I could have done a better job to help out,

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I would be completely lying if I didn't say a

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part of me looked up an ESPN and saw that

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BYU plays against Texas Tech this Saturday, and wasn't hyped

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to hope that these guys can pull off this big

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win because it would be monumental, historic, all of those things.

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And I know the guys on that staff well enough

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to know they are not sitting at their offices right

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now writing down a piece of paper of pros and

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cons of should I stay, what's going to happen if

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Kilane leaves. They know it's out of their hands, Like

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they don't have control over what the head coach does.

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Think back to when bronkle end that Hall made his decision,

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he had coaches that were out on the road doing

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recruiting when they found out that he was leaving the school.

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So like, ultimately Klanie's the one that holds the decision.

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All of those assistants, I promise they know that what's

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out of their hands is out of their hands, and

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what's within their control is the game on Saturday. And

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they're working their butts off, they're preparing their butts off

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the players. They're not I doubt they're stressing about it.

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They got bigger fish to Friday this Saturday. They have

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a team that they know is one of the best

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teams in the country. And like competitive people, this is

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where the like the thing's different. Competitive people know how

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to separate things and they know how to say where

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do I put my time, effort, effort and energy, and

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they say, I'm going to steer it this direction. If

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this team wants an opportunity to win on Saturday, it's

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how many people can be pointed the right direction, and

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the right direction right now is focused on that game.

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And so that's what I would say if I was

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a bille You Cougar fan that was stressing out today.

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I would just try to remember that, right now, what's

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the most important thing to the football program, It's the

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game on Saturday. What's the most important football thing to

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the radio people? And nothing against the radio stuff and

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the media, but they love the story, right, they love

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the story of what's going on. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't like these like this is these are the

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days I hate, actually, John, and like I would rather

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talk about that UCF win and get schematic and nerdy

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with you.

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Speaker 2: I I hate these days. My wife also hates.

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Speaker 3: Them when I'm having to interact with people on Sunday, right, Like,

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it's not I hate these times.

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Speaker 4: But you're right, maybe you're too maybe you're too invested.

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Speaker 3: Then yeah, no, there there I am, and we all

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know who I am, and you know obviously the ties

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of BYU that I have, and maybe I'm more of

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a fan than an actual media member. It's okay, but

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it's it's tough, man, Yeah, I mean there is a

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certain amount of like drama. This is our I guess,

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our reality TV show those that love sports, right, the

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men that love sport. This is our reality TV show

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that we we monitor sure, and that we delve into

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right that it becomes a part of our.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look, kids that I think if we're talking

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about like the situations that could happen, I think the

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NCAA has to fix one more broken thing, oh with

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the way it has shaped the schedule of events that

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can happen, because I think it's an absolute disaster. How

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like a school can make an offer to a coach

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and a coaching staff that is so enticing, and then

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that they can make demands on when that coach has

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to be in their building with his staff and with

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all of the effort that the kids put in and

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the coaches to get somewhere with the team, how that

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can be broken and just cut right in a pivotal moment,

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Like if I'm being honest. Also, I so bad for

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the Ole Miss players as much as they are going

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to try to say the right things and do the

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right things, and they're going to stand up and talk

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about how they can still accomplish everything that they wanted. Man,

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come on college football, Like, you should not let schools,

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as much as recruiting is important, change the windows. Change

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the whole transferport a window, change the recruiting window, change

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all of that stuff so that a coach can finish

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out a season with his team before he has to

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worry about what he's doing next. Like make a rule like, yeah,

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you know what, you guys can go chase the guys

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whose seasons are done, but when their season is not done,

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like come on, like something's got to be different, or

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just make it across the board for everybody, say you

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can't talk to anybody until whatever the last game is

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January twentieth or something like that, or you know, hey,

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nobody can talk to anybody till then. And you know what, recruits,

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just wait, like you guys can't cry. You're getting paid

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one hundreds of thousands of dollars and some of you

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guys are getting paid millions right now, you're going to

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be just fine, Like like, I just think that's a

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major broken thing because you know what it's doing is

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it's fracturing the playoff system. As great as it is

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that college football has a playoff system, right now, it's

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breaking it because you're inviting teams to be in the

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playoff that are top teams and then you're stripping them

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of people that they need to help them, and you're

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trying to tell us that that's the best thing for

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college football. Full crap, You're going to watch some of

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these teams who have their coaches pulled from them struggle

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in this game. And you know you did, you went

478
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and you and you hampered and you hurt the college

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athletes experience, right, I mean you just that's the tough part, man,

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That's the really tough part for the athletes. And it's

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not I mean, yes, it's a business, but these are

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also eighteen, nineteen, twenty, and twenty one year old kids

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that have been dreaming about playing in those games since

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they were little kids. You know, some of those kids

485
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growing up watching SEC football, Big ten football, Big twelve football,

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dreaming about playing in the Rose Bowl or the Sugar Bowl,

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I mean the Cotton Bowl. Like yeah, they want to

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have those dreams realize, and they've been putting in a

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lifetime of effort and then all of a sudden you

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find out you're in the playoffs and your coach is gone.

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That is just tough, way tough, and I think that

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needs to be fixed.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 3: For those that are tuning in, that have quarter within

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the walls of their home, how can they align with

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train three D QB and get the best out of

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their biomechanics, their throw ability, their football IQ ability as

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a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You know what, a lot of stuff's going on. We

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have a lot of families that are already reaching out

501
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talking about during that Christmas break, they want to come

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out and get some time in already the start of

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Reek to January. Martin Luther King weekend. I believe that

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we already have camps going on and as guys transition

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between sports. I think I said this on the last

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show we did, but a lot of these guys that

507
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are just finishing up right now, it's go out and

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put some time on the field. Go out and have

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your tape evaluated. You know, my son and I we

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already started our Hey, let's sit down with a notebook

511
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and let's go through every single play that's happened throughout

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this season, whether you were the guy that took the snap,

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whether there's another quarterback that took the snap. Like, let's

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go through everything that we can learn from what we

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just experienced, and then, you know what, we can spend

516
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a little bit of time just improving in some areas,

517
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going back out on the field and talking through some situations,

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throwing some balls. You can still improve even when you're

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going to transition to another sport because the growth, the learning,

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all of that is always happening.

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Speaker 3: John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, check it out at Training

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on the line to discuss what's happening.

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Speaker 2: What is he hearing?

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his commentary on the Kalinishatak situation that has been trending

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on definitely the social media accounts of all fans, donors

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within Penn State and the BYU football world. No official

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reports have necessarily come out stating that Kilani is heading

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to Penn State, just that negotiations and commentaries have have

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have been emerging Penn States being very aggressive. I've heard,

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and so I wanted to get some thoughts, some commentary

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in college football insider Matt Brown of Extra Points, Matt,

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how you living?

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Speaker 5: You know I'm doing great. I think we're kind of

589
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joking about this. A couple hours ago. I had a

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really really RESTful, resetting Thanksgiving holiday. I was I was

591
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getting ready to write a story about Canadian Division two

592
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hockey for tomorrow, getting into some real inside baseball nerd stuff,

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and wouldn't you know it, it seems like once again

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I need to talk about what's going on in your

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neck of the woods.

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Speaker 2: I know, man, I know you have.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of sources throughout college athletics and

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college football, and one story kind of resides within your

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geography right now and also impacts byu Kaloni Satake.

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Speaker 2: Who's been named a candidate.

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Speaker 3: For multiple horses right now that there's some ongoing maybe

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negotiations for the next head coaching position, the vacancy at

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Penn State, what have you learned about this situation give

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us maybe a thirty thousand foot view synopsis.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you had asked me last week, I would

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have said this sounds kind of ridiculous. But around you know,

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late Saturday, I started getting some text text messages, and

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not originally from people in Utah, but from people in

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the Penn State universe and from national people and people

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in the college sports industry, you know, asking hey, have

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you been following this? I want you to know this.

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This is the thing that's happening. Penn State is going

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to be in Utah. What do you think about this

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potential mix? And then, you know, along with it, seems

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like a third of the rest of the internet, anyone

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that's not watching the Lane kiff and press conference is

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kind of zooming and talking about this. What I would say,

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and I want to use my words carefully because I

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want to be able to potentially still come back and

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visit Utah sometime, is that I do not know if

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Penn State will formally offer this gig or if Kilanie

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will take it. I don't know if this is primarily

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about leverage. I don't know if this is where he

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really wants to go.

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Speaker 4: I know enough from all the people blowing on my phone.

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Speaker 5: Right now that I trust that those are very real conversations.

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And I think the fact that they have gotten to

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be very real conversations, given the time of year where

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this is, and given what's happening nationally, I think that's

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a big surprise and speaks to maybe some bigger questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you wonder, right, It's like, Okay, what

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what would Penn State be offering Kilanie Shotak to you

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as a great resume? Since twenty twenty, he's gone eleven

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and one, ten and three, eight, five, five and seven,

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and then he's now gone two consecutive years of eleven

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and two and now eleven. And when he's in the

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college or the conference championship game versus Texas Tech, what

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type of dollar amount is that? Does that merit on

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the free market right now? In the college football landscape

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that we're living in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Penn State is a top six seven job

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in eight in college football. And and at this point

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right now, those coaches are making eight figures. Those are

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those are those are ten million dollars a year games

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and and and that's moving up or at least very

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close to that neighborhood. I don't think either of us

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are are telling tales here to say like, yeah, I

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don't that's not typically where b why you had spent

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either either because they don't have the money or they

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don't want to spend that kind of money. And it

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doesn't happen very It doesn't happen very often where a

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really big program comes sniffing around your coach. This would

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represent a very aggressive salary change for klone, no doubt

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about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know that could be generational money, right comparatively speaking, like,

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I don't know how aggressive be why you would be.

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You know, I've heard numbers sloatered around over the years, like, uh,

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you know, I want to say post COVID, I want

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to say, like the number that was flowed around was

660
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like maybe three million. After the twenty twenty four extension,

661
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I want to say it was around like four million,

662
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four point three million, with incentives that could get up

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to five million.

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Speaker 2: The average big twelve head coaching salary I believe is.

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Speaker 3: Around four point nine million, and so you know, i'd

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imagine Penn State could offer at least twice as much

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as that, And I don't know how competitive BYU could

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really get here, Although basketball.

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Speaker 2: As I've conversed with others, I'm like.

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Speaker 3: They Brian Santie, who sent a president for for basketball,

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Matt Norlander CBS Sports Reporter that it was a seven

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year I want to say, thirty million dollar deal, and

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that's like an annual four point three and it could

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be even more than that after his last extension. So

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Kevin Young was making that amount. Uh, what if football

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runs the ship at BYU, shouldn't he he gets some

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sort of a percentage increased from that. I don't know

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how all universities allocate funds, but doesn't the football head

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coach typically get twenty, thirty, forty, maybe fifty percent more

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than the college basketball coach.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's it's going to depend on the school,

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but that's not uncommon. And what I could say is, like,

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you know, if you think Kilani is a top twenty

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college football coach, I don't know how you feel. I

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would say that's I think that's a little conservative. I

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would probably put him higher than that among sitting and

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higher eight coaches. But if if that is where you

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where you where you sought him in being paid a

689
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little over four million dollars is substantially undermarket, whether whether

690
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it should be six, whether it should be eight, something

691
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else in that range. That's about the going rate. Now,

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you and I both know, and I'm sure everybody listening

693
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to this program knows that. Yeah. Historically, if you work

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for BYU, whether you're in athletics or academics or in

695
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development or facilities, you are generally not going to get

696
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the high point of your market salary. The institution does

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not pay top dollar for almost anything because they want

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you to be there for reasons other than money. And

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we can debate whether that's a good a good thing

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or a bad thing, but that's historically been in reality.

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You're right starting to shift a little bit here in basketball,

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and I won I could understand why anybody involved with

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football would look at what's happening in basketball and potentially

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be frustrated. And I think, and I don't know the

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right answer to this, but if you're gonna be say

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we're gonna we're gonna compete for championships, we want to

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be performing at the highest level. And you've got one

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team that's in the upper quartile of spending on both

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coaches and honestly on payroll, whether that money is coming

710
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from BYU or Red Bull or you know who, you know,

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the Nancy Reagan Billboard Fund or whoever. Like you know,

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the money is going to the basketball players if you're

713
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,159
in the top quartile in men's basketball, I don't know

714
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,320
who you're fooling if you if you say, like, but

715
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,960
we're not going to be in the big money race

716
00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:05,800
if you're you know, by spending less in football, Like

717
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,079
are you winn or are you not? And that's that's

718
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:11,119
not a question I can answer. But that's a question

719
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:13,800
you need all the answer to when your football coach

720
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,199
who has been very successful and wants to be here

721
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,280
and as an alum, is saying, I've got another offer

722
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,800
here for a lot more money, Like how.

723
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: Much how much smoke is there really around this Penn

724
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,119
State deal or offering?

725
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:31,119
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

726
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: Like what I find interesting is this.

727
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: There's been a few that have gone on record, right,

728
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:41,119
but they're they're mostly non traditional.

729
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: Media sources. Right.

730
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: You have kind of this Calshy momentum. It's a betting

731
00:35:48,599 --> 00:35:50,960
kind of he can bet on anything on this website,

732
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,840
you know. I mean there's some moments any there, right,

733
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:56,519
you can bet on anything. They're not tried and true, verified,

734
00:35:56,599 --> 00:36:00,920
validated sources that that no one willing to nessly go

735
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:04,559
on record and say you know that that Colonia Sataki

736
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:06,159
is going to be the next head coach at Penn State.

737
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,760
They just say that there's negotiations, right, there's like but no, yeah,

738
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,159
even then, like, no one within the college football world,

739
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,039
Pete Amble or Brett McMurphy yourself, right, no one's gone

740
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,400
out and said, hey, this is about to happen.

741
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: So what do we make of that?

742
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 5: Well, it's funny. It's funny. You mentioned that as we're

743
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,079
talking on three put out of tweet from Brett McMurphy

744
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,159
and his colleagues that says that Colonie has emerged as

745
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,079
Penn State's top target, which is different from saying that

746
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,960
he's going to take the job. People can emerge, and

747
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,800
but you know, there's there's language that kind of gets

748
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,320
sent out from agents and everyone's kind of cribbing the

749
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,000
same verbs and and and and that's how this stuff works.

750
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,760
For Penn State specifically, that's kind of a weird situation

751
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,119
because even though they're a huge brand, they don't have

752
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,239
very many full time dedicated beat writers. Right. The athletic

753
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,280
laid off their staffer. The pen the State college is

754
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,239
like three and a half hours from both Pittsburgh or

755
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,039
and Philadelphia, so you you weirdly have a team that's

756
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:09,079
that's not as exhaustively covered as some of these other things.

757
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,440
And if you have an ad that really wanted to

758
00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:14,719
keep this search secret. I heard almost nothing about this

759
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,920
search and the other people they talked to before Klani

760
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,880
until Saturday. It's going to be hard for.

761
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:20,639
Speaker 4: People to figure it out.

762
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,039
Speaker 5: Whereas if you're LSU and you're holding press conferences with

763
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:27,599
the freaking governor on statewide television and you have a

764
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:31,199
beatcore of forty people, it's harder to move silently because

765
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,519
everyone involved talks a little bit more. And that's not

766
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:35,480
really how things work at Penn State, for good or

767
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:42,159
for ill, certainly not how things work around here. What

768
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,880
I would feel most, what I you know, kind of

769
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000
shared yesterday with feel comfortable saying on the air in

770
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:49,960
this market and writing now, is I know that those

771
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,800
conversations are legitimate enough to talk about and that they're

772
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,360
not just message board fodder or you know, ute fantasy

773
00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:00,519
or anything that's real. Well will that be how it ends?

774
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:03,960
I don't know, because people take this job and take

775
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,199
other jobs for different reasons. I'll say this, I don't

776
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:09,079
think b one you needs to offer ten million dollars

777
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:13,639
a year to keep them. But how close they're willing

778
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,440
to go on control or length of contract or revenue

779
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:20,519
sharing or other things. Well, I guess we're going to

780
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:21,599
find out in a couple of hours.

781
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh if I'm killani right, the first thing

782
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,199
I'm probably doing, Like the the dollar amount isn't as

783
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:39,599
pivotal as probably the tenure or long term, long term

784
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:43,519
investment from BYU as an institution. Right, So you know,

785
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:44,960
you come to them and you say, I want a

786
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,719
ten year deal. Well, we don't do ten year deals.

787
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,159
We can do a five year deal. Well, they're offering

788
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,599
me this amount, like they're watching offering me. Let's say,

789
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,599
let's say it's equivalent to what James Frank was making

790
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:57,800
eight point five million. Maybe it's nine million, maybe it's

791
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,159
ten million, right, whatever, that looks like. You have that

792
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,000
on the table, You have that as a bargaining chip.

793
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:05,199
You're like, look like, this is what they're offering me.

794
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,960
I'm not asking for that. I'm just asking for investment

795
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:13,199
long term. If you give me five years and you

796
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,559
come up to six point five million, Does that do it?

797
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 5: Right?

798
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 3: Like they're going to go back and forth here, and

799
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,800
you wonder how much how much they're going to meet

800
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,800
in the middle here, because I don't think b YU

801
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,480
will ever be the top team to bid on a coach.

802
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:38,320
But like they've said, I think unofficially many sources in

803
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,840
the NIL world, they're not going to be highest bidder,

804
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,239
but they're going to be competitive, right, is what they've said.

805
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's I I'm trying to think of the

806
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,840
best way I can I could talk about this so

807
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,400
that not sounding horribly biased or angry or anything, but

808
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,679
but you're you're kind of falling down, going down a

809
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,639
different road. If your north star is we don't want

810
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:06,760
to be the high bidder, but we want to be competitive,

811
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,039
because that's pretty nebulous. It is competitive in this case

812
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:13,719
six seven eight To your point, how much how much

813
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,159
leeway are you willing to give for length of contract?

814
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,480
One nice thing about b YU if you're a coach

815
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:24,239
is historically they are way less trigger happy than comparable programs,

816
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,480
and I think part of that stems to this is

817
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:30,280
not an institution that ever wants to pay a gigantic buyout.

818
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,599
And also because there's just not that many people who

819
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:36,920
are eligible to work at BYU right like you, you

820
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:39,039
and I have talked about this. We can we can

821
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:42,880
count all of the sitting division the FBS head coaches

822
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,480
who are lds on one hand, and we can count

823
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:48,239
all of the potential hypothetical candidates for this job on

824
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,679
two hands. If you don't have that many backup plans,

825
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,360
you're you're not going to be itchy with a trigger finger.

826
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:56,800
But I could also understand why somebody would want a

827
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,760
longer deal if the other people in the market are

828
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,239
willing to give them one. I don't want to sit

829
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,559
here and say, like byus the hipocritical or screwing up

830
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:06,840
if they if they, if they don't go higher than

831
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:12,000
seven or anything else. I don't know what the top

832
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:15,559
line is for what they could conceivably pay. I just

833
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,320
know that, like what they're getting right now, production wise,

834
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:20,760
is far exceeds what they are currently paying.

835
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 3: In this report from On three, their stating sources have

836
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,480
told On three that the Navy Alliance have made it

837
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,079
clear made it clerics to Tuckety that they will offer

838
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:36,800
a lucrative salary pool, including defensive coordinator j Hill. The

839
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,639
Cougars are fifty six and nineteen. That that record since

840
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,480
twenty twenty. That ranks as the seventh best mark among

841
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:48,599
FBS programs, behind only Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, Oregon, Notre

842
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,360
Dame in Michigan.

843
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: So it sounds like they're upping the empty to attract

844
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:55,039
j Hill, right.

845
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: So that would be intriguing to me because you know

846
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,800
many are saying, well, Jay's the the the assistant head coach,

847
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,639
He's the head coach in waiting. If Klani were to

848
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,079
take his talents to Penn State, Kalani would may be

849
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,679
willing to say, look, I'll take you know eight million,

850
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,360
but I need you to make j Hill the highest

851
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,199
paid defensive coordinator assistant coach in college football.

852
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: Penn State's done that in the past, haven't they.

853
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 5: Matt Browns And literally this year they did that with

854
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,480
Jim Knowles when they hired him away from Ohio State

855
00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:30,639
to be their defensive coordinator. And uh, Penn State's defense

856
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,760
was terrible this year, and and and and that happens.

857
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,519
Like when you have the Big ten TV money and

858
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:39,239
you have the fan base that Penn State has, it's

859
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,519
it is an enormous institution. They have a gajillion alumni,

860
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,320
and they have some a couple of boosters who like,

861
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,079
are you know you are as mega wealthy as anything

862
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,880
that b YU has, Yeah, you can afford to do that.

863
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:55,039
I think that would be the absolute worst case scenario

864
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:59,440
for BYU to not only lose the second best coach

865
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:05,280
in schoolhit and a admirable avatar and advocate for your

866
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,760
faith and institution, to lose him to a bigger job

867
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:13,400
that hurts, to lose the obvious backup candidate as somebody

868
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,599
who has a high level coaching experience that has done

869
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,519
such a good job. I think that would be a catastrophe,

870
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,440
not just because the timing, because BYU is still controls

871
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,599
their own destiny for playing on the college football playoffs,

872
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:27,599
it's potentially winning a national title. It's unlikely they're not

873
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:30,280
eliminated yet, so that the timing for that is I

874
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,280
think catastrophic. And then I think the pool of potential

875
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,760
candidates you have beyond Hill are unless you get Bronchomenden

876
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,920
how to come back, are simply not at the level

877
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:46,760
of experience that you'd want for a upper level Big

878
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,880
twelve job. I don't think this is a gig where

879
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,960
you can bring in somebody who hasn't been a high

880
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:56,000
level coordinator for a long time, or somebody who's only

881
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,480
recently become a position coach, and then hope that you

882
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:01,599
can build a really good staty around them. I think

883
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:04,480
the complexity of college football has moved on so much

884
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:08,719
that it would be very, very risky to promote a

885
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,039
position coach, or to grab a high school coach, or

886
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,440
to grab somebody who isn't from this world.

887
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 4: And losing both of these guys.

888
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 5: I think would put THEYU in a very difficult position.

889
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that would be worst case scenario.

890
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: A lot of people feel like, well, if Kaloni leaves,

891
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Jay's most definitely the guy, but Penn State is over here,

892
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:32,519
Like not so fast, you know, we're bringing that entire

893
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:35,920
staff with us that's been winning high level football games

894
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:39,960
in high level places over the last six years.

895
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 5: I've joked about this, but I think it would be

896
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,159
important for the long term health of DAU athletics for

897
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,719
there to be a very targeted missionary campaign tied to

898
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,079
NACTA or tied to AFCA or something. It's time to

899
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:57,280
start baptizing some more coaches and get them into this

900
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,119
pipeline because there's there's no uh, there's just there's just

901
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,079
not enough people, right like, and this it's kind of

902
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:06,320
an issue for basketball too. You know, you've got, you've

903
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,119
got They hopefully, for their sake, they won't have to

904
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:11,599
make any changes for a long time. But between the

905
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,559
NBA and the current college and the current college ranks,

906
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:19,679
there's just not that many people. And sometimes that works

907
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,000
out because you don't need there to be a lot

908
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,360
of people if you get the right person. But if

909
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,599
there's only six possible people who can do the job,

910
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:26,960
and four of them are gonna need a lot of

911
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,760
coaching up, and the job has now become more expensive

912
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,880
and more difficult and more more high profile, brother, you

913
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,320
better nail it. And if you nailed it, brother, you

914
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,280
better keep that guy because they end up having a

915
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:43,239
lot of leverage. I I I I do not know

916
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:46,440
whether whether this happens. I do not know which assistances go.

917
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:48,280
I'd be I would be shocked if they took everybody

918
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,599
because Penn State historically has really needed to build high

919
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:57,840
school relationships in the metropolitan DC area, metropolitan Philadelphia all

920
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,719
along for Virginia and Andrew, You're going to want some

921
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,559
people to have ties to those regions besides just the

922
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:07,199
Utah centric staff. But they have the money to bring

923
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,880
whoever wherever they want if money is the issue here.

924
00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: Matt Brown, ladies and gentlemen, loves chatting with you.

925
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 4: Matt.

926
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 3: When do you think we hear maybe an official word

927
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,039
on this? Do you think this is extended past these

928
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,280
conference championship games before we air anything official?

929
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:30,079
Speaker 5: I honestly, I would be pretty surprised if we're still

930
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,239
talking about this and hypotheticals by the end of the

931
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,360
day tomorrow. The longer the longer it drags out without

932
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,719
anything official, the more likely I would think that that

933
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,199
that he stays it would be untenable to have this

934
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,239
kind of hypothetic, hypothetical stuff over anybody's head coming into

935
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,159
a conference championship game. That it's not good for anybody.

936
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,280
This is happening now, the worst like the best time

937
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,760
for this to end is like now. The next best

938
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,320
time is as close to now as possible for both

939
00:46:59,400 --> 00:46:59,960
for both teams.

940
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:05,039
Speaker 3: Honestly, Matt always appreciated our time together. Best way to

941
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:06,519
support you, what you do, how you do it, for

942
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:07,719
all of our listeners.

943
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 5: You can find my work at extra Points mb dot com.

944
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,679
Normally it's about off the field stuff in the college

945
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:22,559
sports industry, whether that's concession stand revenue, conference re alignment,

946
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:27,639
television deals, administrative changes, policy, all that stuff. I imagine

947
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:30,239
I'll end up writing about the coaching carousel in the

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next thirty six hours.

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Speaker 2: Love it, Matt. Always appreciate our time together.

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Speaker 3: To all of our listeners following Matt on X as

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well as subscribe to his fantastic newsletter Stand Up Breast

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on all the Things in college Athletics and college football.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Matt, been my pleasure.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll talk again about halfier things, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, hopefully there's some good news at the

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end of this week. That's what I'm hoping for.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, be well, my friend. I'll talk to

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you soon.

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Speaker 3: All right, Thank you so much, Matt Brown. Ladies and gentlemen,

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is Cougar Sports on one of three nine ninety eight

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