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Speaker 2: Bill's leaving, We're coming in, and you know, you kind
Speaker 2: of have a conversation with Bill and he always says
Speaker 2: sort of stuff that is it's funny.
Speaker 3: Wrong.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's what a lot of people are thinking,
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Say, yeah, he's just there's no filter on Billy him.
Speaker 5: Zero filter.
Speaker 4: It's so funny.
Speaker 5: And it had to do with me being pregnant.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the thing that you find when you're pregnant.
Speaker 4: Apparently I'm learning this from Marlow. You know, Marla is
Speaker 4: expecting in March, March, March March.
Speaker 2: And what I'm learning from you is that people see
Speaker 2: that you're pregnant and they react and sort of reflexibly
Speaker 2: say something to you. And I think they're trying to
Speaker 2: help or trying to contribute anyway to the joy, the journey,
Speaker 2: the adventure, but oftentimes it lands awkwardly.
Speaker 1: Well it's it's a whole whole lot of unsolicited advice,
Speaker 1: that's one way to put it. They're trying to relate
Speaker 1: and say, oh, yes, this and then you should this
Speaker 1: is how you should raise your kid, or this is
Speaker 1: how this is exactly what you should be feeling right now,
Speaker 1: all of that. But you know, Bill didn't know I
Speaker 1: was pregnant, So when I walked in, He's like, either
Speaker 1: you gained an obscene.
Speaker 5: Amount of weight. That was a joke, kid, of course,
Speaker 5: of course it was.
Speaker 4: But that was so so he a.
Speaker 2: Bill was reacting in the you know, the initial way
Speaker 2: that so many people that we're like kind of what
Speaker 2: we're alluding to react when they see it. They go, oh, uh, wow,
Speaker 2: you're pregnant. Gosh, it's like kind of late in life
Speaker 2: to have ah yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, he says, why in the world would
Speaker 1: you be having a kid at your age, which I've.
Speaker 6: Heard before and people that way say best wishes, Yeah, exactly, exciting.
Speaker 5: Something and uh, he's not wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is part of the the the what
Speaker 1: we talked about obviously, my husband and I John, we
Speaker 1: talked about this and this was supposed to happen years ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can get into the whole story. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to hear the whole story,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But bottom line is that it
Speaker 1: happened now, and yes, I'm no spring chicken, but that's
Speaker 1: what IVF is for, and it's it's.
Speaker 2: What we wanted and the other thing is And that's
Speaker 2: why I think it's instructive just to hear you speak
Speaker 2: about it, is that a lot of people are going
Speaker 2: to the same thing making the decisions.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I've heard from so many couples who've reached out and said,
Speaker 1: you know, am I too old?
Speaker 5: It's a personal decision and it's only you can make
Speaker 5: that decision.
Speaker 1: And for us, it was something again that we thought
Speaker 1: long and hard about and now could not be more excited.
Speaker 2: I have to say something, you know, because you hear
Speaker 2: this a lot and just turned a little bit of
Speaker 2: for the handle. You know, you're old, so you know,
Speaker 2: because you're old, they're going to be you know, you'll
Speaker 2: be old by the time the child.
Speaker 6: Is you know, you won't even be able to meet
Speaker 6: your RANX. Yeah that's what he said, So play the
Speaker 6: other end of that. Okay, So you have kids when
Speaker 6: you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty, whatever, and you end up with
Speaker 6: this argument people going, well, it's too bad that you
Speaker 6: had kids so young, because it would have been nice
Speaker 6: if you had enjoyed each other for a while and
Speaker 6: enjoyed life for that twenty to thirty decade or whatever.
Speaker 4: Again, neither's right, right, Sure one is right.
Speaker 2: But you can see both perspectives, and I think both
Speaker 2: perspectives have merit.
Speaker 5: It's a complete lifestyle choice. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1: You know, I lived a lot in my twenties and thirties,
Speaker 1: and you know here I am, and I had a
Speaker 1: lot of good experiences and traveled and obviously worked a lot,
Speaker 1: and now I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Well, i'd also say the wisdom of age helps you.
Speaker 2: I think as a parent, I would think, Again, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 5: I'll let you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll keep you updated.
Speaker 2: Speaking of updates today, updating the wildfire situation that pressure
Speaker 2: was would say there was some information the things that
Speaker 2: people really want to know, And Marley was saying this earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're just kind of talking off the air. The things
Speaker 2: that people really want to know are associated with when
Speaker 2: they can go back right to these evacuation.
Speaker 1: Zones, because there are tens of thousands of people who
Speaker 1: are still out of their homes right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know that question was really answered.
Speaker 5: No, So Ellie County Scheff Robert Luna.
Speaker 1: He said it's going to be at least a week
Speaker 1: at least, we're at least a week out until people
Speaker 1: can return home. And this is because I'm referring to
Speaker 1: and he's referring to if you are in a current
Speaker 1: evacuation zone, of course, and he talks about debris removal.
Speaker 1: He talks about they're still coming through the properties and
Speaker 1: looking for human remains, God forbid.
Speaker 5: So it's a process that has to happen.
Speaker 1: There's hazardous materials and waste, hence the debris removal, So
Speaker 1: it's going to be some time. But then Ellie County
Speaker 1: Board Supervisor Catherine, of course, the board chair, she spoke
Speaker 1: and she basically said that's basically not an that that
Speaker 1: is an unacceptable timeline we had. She said, we haven't
Speaker 1: given the people a concrete date and they deserve that
Speaker 1: because they're frustrated, they want to go home.
Speaker 5: They should have a better timeline.
Speaker 1: So she's pressing Unified Command to be able to pinpoint
Speaker 1: a date of return.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get that. There there's so many variables,
Speaker 2: it's very hard to pin down a date. Perhaps, but
Speaker 2: you do need to plan, you know, And so I
Speaker 2: get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of people are. They're staying
Speaker 1: with friends, they're at hotels. It's it's like CouchSurfing all
Speaker 1: over and at a moment's.
Speaker 2: Notice, couch searching with a family. I mean, yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 2: Twenty five people are believed, as Marla was sort of saying,
Speaker 2: believe to be dead. More than a dozen others remain
Speaker 2: unaccounted for the Palace Age fire, twenty three seven hundred
Speaker 2: and thirteen acres again, twenty two percent content, nine deaths
Speaker 2: in that blaze, fifty three hundred and sixteen structors structures
Speaker 2: burned to the Eating fire in the San Gabriel Valley
Speaker 2: fifty five percent contained fourteen thousand acres. Just over fourteen
Speaker 2: thousand acres. Excuse me, I had a curb my throat.
Speaker 5: I'm here for you.
Speaker 2: Approximately, yeah, just over seven thousand structures believe to be
Speaker 2: damaged or destroyed, including vehicles at sixteen deaths, another and
Speaker 2: five firefighter injuries in that fire as well.
Speaker 4: That's the Eating fire in San Gabriel Valley.
Speaker 5: And did you I'm sorry, did you go over the
Speaker 5: Palisades fire?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: We did the policyze so yeah, And as.
Speaker 1: A journalist though, and I know we can get lost
Speaker 1: in the numbers and all of that. I if anyone
Speaker 1: from cal Fire or La County Fire is listening right now,
Speaker 1: there is a major discrepancy that is being reported and
Speaker 1: we need to get to the bottom of it. And
Speaker 1: this just has to do with structure loss, and maybe
Speaker 1: not to the average person, it doesn't matter, but I
Speaker 1: do think it makes a significant difference.
Speaker 5: And what do I mean by this?
Speaker 1: That La County Fire Chief today and all along for
Speaker 1: the last several days, has been reporting seven thousand plus
Speaker 1: structures damaged or destroyed in the Eaten fire.
Speaker 5: Seven thousand plus structures.
Speaker 1: We've been going with that number at Fox eleven, all
Speaker 1: of the local stations have been as well in the
Speaker 1: Parrot Palisades fire, fifty three hundred structures lost there. Well,
Speaker 1: then when you go to cal Fire on the Incident
Speaker 1: Command page, which we get a lot of our updates
Speaker 1: from in terms of containment, those numbers are the same
Speaker 1: as CALF or as La County Fire, but their numbers
Speaker 1: for structure loss are about half of what La County
Speaker 1: Fire is reporting.
Speaker 4: So are there discrepancies here that have to be squared?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Those, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: But it's not one or two or a dozen.
Speaker 1: It's we're talking fifty percent, which is a significant difference.
Speaker 4: Also, we'll get to.
Speaker 2: An emerging aspect of this fire in the aftermath, which
Speaker 2: is the toxic ash in particulate matter.
Speaker 4: So we'll get to all of that as well.
Speaker 2: There are other things happening too, Middle East to a
Speaker 2: piece deal appears to be shaky. We'll touch on that.
Speaker 2: There's actually a lot going on today. We will continue.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're talking about the latest as it relates
Speaker 1: to our wildfires. The other bit of good news that
Speaker 1: we heard doesn't come as a huge surprise. But finally
Speaker 1: most of the red easy for me to say red
Speaker 1: flag warnings have expired. That second huge, big wind event
Speaker 1: didn't materialize as terribly as anticipated. So no little to
Speaker 1: no new growth on both the Palisades and Eaten Fire.
Speaker 5: So that is great news.
Speaker 1: The only other thing to think about is come Monday,
Speaker 1: there's another Santa Ana wind.
Speaker 2: Event now the end of Tuesday. They say they were
Speaker 2: saying that the press conference. It's funny I was thinking
Speaker 2: as they were speaking and they were talking about the
Speaker 2: fact and obviously, as Marla's just noted, the read well,
Speaker 2: the wind event that was supposed to be bad, but
Speaker 2: not quite as bad as the initial event didn't really
Speaker 2: materialize it, and we spoke to him. We spoke to
Speaker 2: a National Weather Service meteorologist who had sort of hipped
Speaker 2: us to the fact that it may not be quite
Speaker 2: as bad as originally forecast. So in a way, even
Speaker 2: the revised forecast didn't really.
Speaker 5: Know because he gave it a nine versus a ten
Speaker 5: last week.
Speaker 2: Oh, is that right, he's about twenty percenty. Whatever the
Speaker 2: however he computed it or calculated it or described it numerically,
Speaker 2: it wasn't as bad. And I was thinking to myself,
Speaker 2: I wonder if Karen Bass, who was so embattled. We
Speaker 2: talked so much about her yesterday and I don't think
Speaker 2: she'll survive this. But I wonder if she was thinking
Speaker 2: to herself, you know, she's doing her own calculation, like, well,
Speaker 2: the forecast is bad, but forecasts sometimes can be wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take this trip to Africa and kind
Speaker 2: of hope that this forecast isn't. Now I think that's
Speaker 2: a bad don't get me wrong. Well, I was trying
Speaker 2: to figure out how she somehow rationalized that trip to
Speaker 2: Africa at a time when her community was likely imperiled
Speaker 2: by this major weather event.
Speaker 1: We live in southern California, So the red flag warnings
Speaker 1: that people hear.
Speaker 5: That's that's all.
Speaker 4: They're common.
Speaker 5: They're common, very common.
Speaker 1: But what's not common when the forecast warning comes with
Speaker 1: life threatening Well, and that's exactly what she heard before
Speaker 1: she left.
Speaker 2: Look at the wind velocities that were forecast eighty to
Speaker 2: one hundred mile an hour winds. I mean, I had
Speaker 2: not seen a forecast like that, and I was a forecaster. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is in your wheelhouse. I hadn't seen anything like
Speaker 2: that in years. And usually you see those wind velocities quoted,
Speaker 2: and they're associated with mountain peaks where they're typically much
Speaker 2: higher winds, et cetera. But at sea level, they were
Speaker 2: looking at wind velocities, forecast wind velocities in excess of
Speaker 2: sixty and seventy miles an hour.
Speaker 4: I mean, that is an alarming cast.
Speaker 2: So somebody either didn't communicate that to her, or she
Speaker 2: didn't take it seriously, or she hoped it was wrong.
Speaker 2: But whatever the breakdown was, it is unacceptable and I
Speaker 2: think she'll pay a huge political price for it.
Speaker 1: How much credence do you put into the change dot
Speaker 1: org petition that's demanding her resignation.
Speaker 4: It ain't a good thing. I'll tell you that. It
Speaker 4: ain't a good thing.
Speaker 5: It seems to be sort of losing uh speed, though I.
Speaker 2: Think it's because because because things lose visibility over over
Speaker 2: the days.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I mean I just I checked it this morning,
Speaker 1: and yesterday it was at one hundred and forty three
Speaker 1: thousand signatures. Today it's at one hundred and forty seven thousand,
Speaker 1: So just four thousand people in the last twenty four
Speaker 1: hours and needs to get up to one eighty for
Speaker 1: it to really do something.
Speaker 2: And the drum beat to replace her or for her
Speaker 2: to resign, it's going to fade over the days. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure again in politics, you hope that you know
Speaker 2: something else bumps it if you're apologic.
Speaker 5: Hey, look at Kevin da leone perfect example. He waited
Speaker 5: it out. I mean, he lost the election, but he
Speaker 5: survived Initially.
Speaker 2: There is in the Altadena area concern about several things.
Speaker 4: First of all, the air is bad.
Speaker 2: The toxins that are suspended in the air really bad.
Speaker 2: In fact, we're going to talk about that a little
Speaker 2: bit later this hour with a doctor who is a
Speaker 2: medical contributor I know over there with you at Fox eleven,
Speaker 2: who will talk about the fact that there is ash
Speaker 2: suspended in the air and it doesn't show up on
Speaker 2: air quality maps. So when you see these air quality
Speaker 2: maps that you constantly see on local news, and you
Speaker 2: know it's green, it's yellow, it's red, it looks green,
Speaker 2: which is a lower level of particulate matter. But the
Speaker 2: reality is it's not measuring a lot of the toxins
Speaker 2: that are most dangerous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting story because it's pretty deceiving when
Speaker 1: we show you the air quality sensors in your area,
Speaker 1: and by and large, despite the fires, despite the eating
Speaker 1: and Palisades fires, it's currently reading at healthy or at
Speaker 1: worst case moderate, and that's a green and yellow.
Speaker 5: It's not even in the unhealthy or hazardous.
Speaker 1: And doctor Michael Daniel he will join us coming up
Speaker 1: because he's going to explain why that is why the
Speaker 1: air quality sensors are showing green.
Speaker 2: I mean, in a way I have to say, no offense,
Speaker 2: but I would get rid of the air quality map
Speaker 2: until it can I mean, in this case, it's giving
Speaker 2: you almost a disinformation about these.
Speaker 5: I agree with you on that.
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with you, because if you're
Speaker 1: even not even listening to you have the TV volume
Speaker 1: turned off, and you see, oh it's good.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, And all the all the maps, all the apps, everything,
Speaker 2: they all use the same information.
Speaker 1: And the air quality officials they actually held a webinar yesterday.
Speaker 1: And I know doctor d I call him Doctor d
Speaker 1: Danielle will get into this.
Speaker 5: They com bear this to the aftermath of nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's precisely it.
Speaker 2: There are suspended materials, metallic substances in the air that
Speaker 2: get deep into the lungs and can produce all kinds
Speaker 2: of you know, awful health effects. We're talking fires in
Speaker 2: this first hour, and some aspects of the fires that
Speaker 2: are not maybe getting the attention that they should.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in particular, the air quality out there, and are
Speaker 1: we being deceived by the air quality sensors that all
Speaker 1: the meteorologists show and right now they're showing good basically
Speaker 1: good or moderate air quality, which okay, that sounds like
Speaker 1: I can go outside. Let's talk more about this with
Speaker 1: doctor Michael daniel He's an er doctor and he happens
Speaker 1: to be the Fox eleven medical contributor. I call him
Speaker 1: Doctor d doctor d Good morning, thanks for being here.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Mark and Marla.
Speaker 5: How are We're doing well?
Speaker 1: But we want to we're investigating these air quality sensors.
Speaker 5: What is the truth about our air quality right now?
Speaker 1: And why do the sensors say that we have good
Speaker 1: air quality?
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you alluded to and as we discussed on
Speaker 3: Fox eleven the other night, you know, when you look
Speaker 3: across the board at the sensors, they're all green. But
Speaker 3: what people need to know is that they don't measure
Speaker 3: for a lot of things that we should be concerned about.
Speaker 3: They check for ozone at the ground level, they check
Speaker 3: for carbon monoxide, sodium dioxide, nitrogen dioxide, and then that
Speaker 3: particular matter. So that's the smoke from wildfires and things
Speaker 3: like that. But when we look at the sheer amount
Speaker 3: of buildings that have been destroyed twelve thousand plus, you
Speaker 3: have to think about as bestosed in lead, especially in
Speaker 3: those older buildings that were put up pre code, things
Speaker 3: like volatile organic compounds, so that's burning plastics, fuels, household items,
Speaker 3: air conditioning, you know, even things like electric vehicles. All
Speaker 3: that stuff is going to get in the air, and
Speaker 3: that's not tested for in the AQI, And you know,
Speaker 3: my concern is we're looking at a potential situation that
Speaker 3: we had in New York, you know, Post nine to eleven,
Speaker 3: where you know, first responders were exposed to a lot
Speaker 3: of carcinogens in the air, you know, right when it
Speaker 3: happened and in the immediate aftermath of the cleanup in particular.
Speaker 3: So you know, I just want people to be aware
Speaker 3: that AQI, although useful, can be limited and falsely reassuring.
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I was saying before, So it's misleading.
Speaker 2: I mean, in a way, I wish they would suspend
Speaker 2: posting those maps at least for the moment, until such
Speaker 2: time as they can tweak these technologies so that they
Speaker 2: can measure some of the stuff you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Can that be done?
Speaker 2: This might be a little out of your area, but
Speaker 2: I mean you're a medical doctor, so you know, you
Speaker 2: see what these substances do to the body. But I'm
Speaker 2: wondering if the technology can be tweaked so they can
Speaker 2: actually measure some of this stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, good question. I've been doing some research and
Speaker 3: that in particular because that question has come up from
Speaker 3: our viewers and you know, friends of mine, and of
Speaker 3: course coworkers and patients too, and you know, the index
Speaker 3: as it is right now, it's very difficult to measure
Speaker 3: lead and asbestos with like a commercial test. And so,
Speaker 3: for example, the way that IQ Air works, which is
Speaker 3: the company that generates that map, is crowdsourcing these devices
Speaker 3: that people have at home that you know, you hold
Speaker 3: up into the air and they measure the five things,
Speaker 3: the five common flutins we measure, but to measure lead
Speaker 3: and asbestos, we don't yet have that type of commercial test.
Speaker 3: It takes a very specific kind of filter and then
Speaker 3: you have to you know, do the measurement in the lab.
Speaker 3: And so, you know, it'd be great if somebody could
Speaker 3: innovate and come up with this, because it's going to
Speaker 3: be an issue for the next days, weeks, and months
Speaker 3: for all of us in southern Caliberlifornia, whether you're close
Speaker 3: to the fire, you know, upwards to you know, about
Speaker 3: fifty miles away, I would say, so that's really going
Speaker 3: to affect a broad swath of La County that's going
Speaker 3: to need to be concerned about this for quite some time.
Speaker 2: Well, it's got applicability beyond the southern California and California generally,
Speaker 2: I mean, these fires and wildfires are affecting the west
Speaker 2: in Canada. We've seen it in other countries as well.
Speaker 2: So that technology, I mean, as you say, if it
Speaker 2: can be innovated, it would have a lot of places
Speaker 2: it could work.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, with your I just want your
Speaker 1: professional opinion. Do you think that meteorologists should stop showing
Speaker 1: that map?
Speaker 5: Because what's the point?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, good point. I mean, you know some of that
Speaker 3: we talked about. The one of the five pollutants is
Speaker 3: the particulate matter. And if you look at the size
Speaker 3: of lead and asbestos, it can be picked up by
Speaker 3: the particular matter two point five particular matter keen, which
Speaker 3: are the micrometers, and so those particular substances are within
Speaker 3: that range. But again it doesn't tell us is it
Speaker 3: let is it as best those? Is it hydrocarbons? You know?
Speaker 3: Is it carcinogens? And you may go outside and be like,
Speaker 3: I don't smell any smoke. The air looks clean to me,
Speaker 3: but you may be inhaling things that could cause you
Speaker 3: trouble in the weeks to months ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in terms of a timeline, and you sort
Speaker 1: of just answered that, But do we have how long
Speaker 1: will it take with all the cleanup for those toxins
Speaker 1: to disintegrate, to to evaporate, evaporate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to come up with a way
Speaker 3: to riskstratify for people, and I think, you know, the
Speaker 3: two ways to look at this are time and distance
Speaker 3: from the fire. And I think you know, the risk
Speaker 3: over time obviously is going to go down as the
Speaker 3: winds pick up and hopefully we get some rain. But
Speaker 3: I think you know, we're looking at weeks two months,
Speaker 3: which still hide to marrow risk, particularly when particular matter
Speaker 3: it gets resuspended during cleanup.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, and there's no way it needs to go
Speaker 1: on for some time, yes, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The building materials sort of being resuspended into the air,
Speaker 2: that's going to be a contemporary concern. And you have
Speaker 2: all those workers who they wear the masks, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But they you know, they're obviously suffering the greatest risk.
Speaker 2: That's what happened after nine to eleven. Right, it seems
Speaker 2: like a troubling situation that has to be dealt with,
Speaker 2: maybe a little more aggressively from the standpoint of talking
Speaker 2: about how much of this stuff, how much of this
Speaker 2: in the way of toxicity is affecting us day to day.
Speaker 2: I would say, even if you don't want to commit, doctor,
Speaker 2: I would say they should stop showing those maps.
Speaker 4: I think it's deceiving the public.
Speaker 1: Doctor d Mark was a forecaster for many, many years,
Speaker 1: so he he would be up there right now, and
Speaker 1: you'd be the one saying, well, I.
Speaker 2: Would say, I don't think we should show them map.
Speaker 2: That's what I would say. I mean, so, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I love that you've put it in some kind
Speaker 2: of framework for us.
Speaker 4: So thank you.
Speaker 2: And I think you've identified something else, which is hey,
Speaker 2: it's it's one problem now, but the problem re emerges
Speaker 2: in a way as the reconstruction begins, as as we build,
Speaker 2: you know, back these communities.
Speaker 4: So thank you, doctor.
Speaker 1: All right, Doctor Michael daniel Er, doctor and medical contributor
Speaker 1: at Fox eleven, thank you so much for joining on CAFI.
Speaker 4: A lot of Fox eleven. Of course, thank you.
Speaker 5: I'm a little biased.
Speaker 2: It's great my old stomping ground. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: go to Fox eleven now, they used to have a
Speaker 2: life sized statue of me in the lobby at Fox
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 5: We moved it into the newsroom.
Speaker 2: Oh did you Yeah, because I heard that they'd put
Speaker 2: it in storage, but it's nice that it's in the newsroom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday you heard Gary Hoffman. He called in from
Speaker 1: his fantasy baseball camp in Arizona.
Speaker 2: Gary is living his best life. He really is a
Speaker 2: shortstop and third base. Apparently, that's right. State Farm making
Speaker 2: a major announcement. They have said they will offer renewals
Speaker 2: to residential policy holders that are affected by the La
Speaker 2: County fires. They had previously indicated to many of those
Speaker 2: policy holders that they would be dropped. This decision apparently
Speaker 2: applies to policies held by homeowners and owners of rental
Speaker 2: dwellings and residential community associations that include condo associations.
Speaker 1: The Department of Insurance said that among the thousands of
Speaker 1: policies State Farm had targeted for non renewal, more than
Speaker 1: seventy six hundred were in the Palisades fire zone. There
Speaker 1: were also five hundred and twenty five more and San
Speaker 1: Gabriel valleys eaten fire.
Speaker 2: So if your policy lapsed before January seventh, you're not
Speaker 2: included in this. They're not like doubling back and saying, hey,
Speaker 2: I know we canceled you, but you're going to be
Speaker 2: now you're going to be covered. But they were saying, essentially,
Speaker 2: if you got to notice saying we're going to cancel you,
Speaker 2: now we are not going to cancel you.
Speaker 5: That's nice of them.
Speaker 2: The pressure, I'm sure comes from the state. And you know,
Speaker 2: the relationship between insurance companies in the state of California
Speaker 2: is one in which the state has to approve their
Speaker 2: rate high es et cetera. So I think there is
Speaker 2: a dance that is done there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we heard late last week when the insurance Commissioner,
Speaker 1: Ricardo Lara, he came out and he had urged insurers
Speaker 1: to suspend pending non renewals in both those fire zones,
Speaker 1: and then he announced a moratorium on doing that. In fact,
Speaker 1: he had expanded the boundaries of the moratorium he moratorium
Speaker 1: he issued last week that bars insurers from issuing new
Speaker 1: cancelation or non renewal notices for one year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so precisely what Marla is saying that the
Speaker 2: you know, if you had a non renewal pending, you
Speaker 2: are then covered by this, But if you had a
Speaker 2: non renewal already and they suspended your coverage, you're not
Speaker 2: covered by this.
Speaker 5: How much is this all going to cost.
Speaker 1: The head of State Farm says it's too early to determine,
Speaker 1: though at least one estimate has put them over two
Speaker 1: hundred billion, which would exceed Hurricane Katrina and make it
Speaker 1: the most expensive disaster in the nation's history.
Speaker 2: Which is why these insurance companies are pulling out of
Speaker 2: California because the price tags on many of these dwellings
Speaker 2: that are covered.
Speaker 4: Those price tags are enormous.
Speaker 2: This is some of the most expensive real estate in
Speaker 2: the world, and so these insurance companies are taking a.
Speaker 5: Big hit from this time, huge, huge hit covering them.
Speaker 1: In addition to that, State Farm also announcing that it
Speaker 1: is canceling it's Super Bowl ad.
Speaker 5: The Super Bowl, of course, is less than a month away.
Speaker 1: I believe February second, if my memory serves correct, it's
Speaker 1: on our station.
Speaker 5: It's on Fox. But well it is what the day,
Speaker 5: February ninth.
Speaker 1: February ninth, Thank you, Amy, It's you were close seven
Speaker 1: days off.
Speaker 5: I wanted to.
Speaker 2: Hear you should sit a week early. The pregame show
Speaker 2: does start a week early. It does the thing about
Speaker 2: State Farm Insurancemorrow. I don't know how much football you
Speaker 2: watch or sports you watch, but certainly football. State Farm
Speaker 2: is all over football like a bad smell. I mean,
Speaker 2: you cannot find anything that doesn't have State Farm signage.
Speaker 2: Those State Farm ads they use, the the athletes, they
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's utterly ubiquitous.
Speaker 4: Is everywhere? Is it?
Speaker 1: Jake?
Speaker 5: Is that j sweet?
Speaker 1: Jake? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but last year they're commercial their Super Bowl commercial
Speaker 1: with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito. That one one USA
Speaker 1: Today's annual Popularity Contract.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where they vote for the most part popular
Speaker 2: I think among the readership and the public.
Speaker 1: Basically, they had planned something four February ninth, and they're.
Speaker 2: Pulling that because they're getting a lot of pressure. I mean,
Speaker 2: State Farm is in a tough spot, and insurance companies
Speaker 2: are in a tough spot just generally because they are
Speaker 2: there's some reputational damage to them as a result of
Speaker 2: what's happening in California. Them pulling out of many of
Speaker 2: these areas bad luck, right, and so there. It's interesting tho, though,
Speaker 2: that it spills over even to their ad agency because
Speaker 2: they've already baked this cake, they've already shot this spot.
Speaker 2: You know, it's expensive. These are immensely costly, and yet
Speaker 2: they're they're dropping it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it says here they spent twenty three more
Speaker 1: than twenty three million on national linear TV since January one.
Speaker 2: Crazy and so super Bowl, of course biggest annual event,
Speaker 2: and advertisers spend tremendously to both produce the spots and
Speaker 2: then to put the spots there in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Don't look for that State Farm commercially. I know many
Speaker 2: of you might have been looking forward to that State Farm.
Speaker 2: It will not be but I'm sure Jake will still
Speaker 2: be there and that halftime show sponsored by State Farm,
Speaker 2: with all the signings for a State Farm, it'll all
Speaker 2: be there. And by the way, it's not just State Farm,
Speaker 2: you know all State Farmers. They're all over sporting events
Speaker 2: as well. It's just a weird and by the way,
Speaker 2: I think I posted on this it's optics. It's a
Speaker 2: weird thing when you're in the middle of the fire
Speaker 2: as we were last weekend, and you see these insurance
Speaker 2: company adds everywhere about how we'll be there for you.
Speaker 2: State Farm will be there. All you're in good hands
Speaker 2: with all State Farmers is there for you.
Speaker 5: You know that guy who it sounds like you're the
Speaker 5: guy the pipes.
Speaker 2: But the reality is, guys, you're not really there for us,
Speaker 2: are you. We're living it. We're living the nightmare, absolutely
Speaker 2: all right. Much to do as we continue, Gary and
Speaker 2: Shannon Show, Mark Thompson along with Marletteus sitting in, and
Speaker 2: we'll get to Alta. Dina talk to an Altadena resident
Speaker 2: who lost his home in the Eaton fire next. It's
Speaker 2: actually a remarkable story and we'll tell it next.
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