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Speaker 1: There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around

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the world every month. Most of them can be explained

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as natural phenomena, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters, coincidences,

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abductions of remote viewing Mothman, dog Man, Bigfoot and the

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Space Brothers, mysterious wounds, weeping statues, miracles on high, and

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voices beyond the grain. All these things and more are

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revealed every week on Mac Maloney's Military X Files. So

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in the rest of the game one one Switchy club

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Susan Kay and Uncle Lao Brandy X an aged X

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as they delve into the ultimate mysteries of time and space.

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This is Mac Maloney's Military X Files.

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Speaker 2: And now here's Mac Well. Good evening, everyone, Welcome to

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Mac Maloney's one of the trucks. I'll show here on

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the Distant Thunder Radio Network protesting line from the Stomagali Restaurant,

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fifty five Water Street, New Report, mass Oh, Great Seafood Restaurant,

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Great Hamburgers, great steak and Cheese, Sammy and onion rings

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to diaphol kind of shoe for you tonight. But first

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let me introduce the members of the Boston. Sorry girl,

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third week in a row a half. What bad news?

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No one one tonight, So that vibe you might have

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been feeling it had to be something else taking his place,

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though with one one's older democratic is be keeper, getaway driver, producer, engineer.

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It's uncle Ale at Kitties fell Alronild the UFO mechanic.

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Hey Mac, Hello, everybody. What's what's up? Folks? What's what's

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going on? You tell us I'm home alone. That's that's

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that's what's going on here. My wife went on vacation,

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so I'm home alone, and this is wow. This is

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an interesting concept because usually I was the one that

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was taking off, you know, when I worked for business, yes,

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and she was home. This is the first time I've

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been home alone with the cats and she's gone. So

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it's kind of interesting. Left to my own for food

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and you know, and my own devices. It's not it's

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not pretty. Let's just say that, what was all that

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screaming I heard coming from your house the other night?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we don't want to get into that

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plausible deniability, but I'm able to eat what I want

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when I want. It's like this young food piling up.

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I'm making clubs, you know, club, I make club look

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like he's eating healthy when he's eating all his treats.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's going some far.

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Speaker 4: I'll be over.

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Speaker 2: It's it's unbelievable. It's it is. Are you eating any

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chef boy?

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Speaker 3: I haven't gotten to that yet, but it's kind of

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but it's it's on it's on the menu. I've had

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some ramen soups. And I was at market Basket buying

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a couple of subs today and a lot of the

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chips got awful lot of beer. Wow, that there's a

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I don't know if you guys have seen that beer.

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That's uh. I believe it's only available in Massachusetts. Can

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I say it's called Massholes? Yeah, Masshole beer, yeah, and

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uh and it it's a light beer. I've been buying

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up by the twelve pack. And you see the trash

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cans up still in my house. They're just full of

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beer cans. And it's crazy. I'm glad I asked. So

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the cats still alive?

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Speaker 2: That cats are doing okay? Don't they know something?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: They miss they miss mom because you know, they there's

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a certain time of day when they get their treats

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and there's you know, and of course I'm I'm all

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over the place. I'm up at three in the morning

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watching TV and stuff and they don't know what's going on. Wow,

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the house is wicked quiet. Yeah, and you know, not

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like she's loud. But it's really weird being the only

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one there, for she's gone for fourteen days.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that place haunted?

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Speaker 6: On?

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Speaker 2: There must be that, There must be your ghost there

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in my house. This house is planned nothing at all. Well,

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I'm glad I asked fourteen days ago. I We'll see.

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We'll see what I'm like in a couple of another week.

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There you go. That's it exactly, Susan. Also with us

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down there in my sister's tank top, West Virginia, our

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senior international corresponding Switch played Steve wad Switch.

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Speaker 6: Great to be here tonight.

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Speaker 2: Very busy guy lately, very very busy guy. Yeah, yes,

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he's now for some reason, he's looked like Richard dreyfusfus.

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What's on your T shirt? Hopefully? Is it some funny.

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Speaker 6: It's one of your your favorite TV shows, the Skinwalker

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Ranch TV show.

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Speaker 2: It's a fictional show. If it is, what is it

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really a skin and walking ranch on T shirt. Okay,

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oh well, okay, that's enough enough of that, So switchy,

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how with thousand things with you?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm pretty tired after a couple of weeks. I'll

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be in a few days and I'll be driving to

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a few hours to Ohio to do a talk in

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a library, sort of a mock Man one on one presentation.

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Speaker 2: And you but you had the Big Mothman Festival, over

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twenty thousand people attended, and then you.

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Speaker 6: Meet thirty plus thousand, and then I went out to

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Iowa for the band Deliver the Custody.

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Speaker 2: Thirty thousand people. That's you now you're talking there, switch yep, Wow,

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that's cool man. And it was three days, right, three days?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's it's really two days. But people congregate on

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Friday evening, right, kind of get together.

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Speaker 2: And when did they stay? I mean, this is it's

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Speaker 6: Well, they actually even the historic Low Hotel is shut

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down right now. It was purchased that they're renovating and

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it should be ready in about eighteen months and we're

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going to completely redo this old historic hotel. They're even

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going to have a restaurant on the top from what

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Speaker 2: So so, but way do people stay?

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Speaker 6: I mean, well, there's several chain motels across the river,

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okay in Gallipolis, but a lot of people have to

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drive a half hour or an hour to find a

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place to stay these days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, thirty thousand people. That's that's Fenway pot filled

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basically if you want to The.

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Speaker 6: Town itself was only got about I don't know, five

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Speaker 2: Wow. Huge, So it must be huge for them, you know,

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for their dreamer of commerce and for the merchants it is.

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Speaker 6: But some people just go and hide.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that too, Yeah yeah, I would so switch.

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We'll get back hopefully. Did you have an exciting breakfast today?

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Speaker 6: It was well, I don't know how exciting it was,

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but I needed the food.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, yeah, I understand it. Well, we'll get back

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to that. Well, people in suspense okay. Also with us

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is our international senior security chief? What is it? World renown? Yeah?

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I can't read that, Willie Club w C. How are you?

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Speaker 4: Thank you? Susan? Great job. I he just doesn't remember

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things like he used to, important things like.

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Speaker 2: Hold that back up, Hold that back up? Is it

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was that for me a switch. Let me hold the backup.

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Come on, let's go, Susan, come on, hold it back up?

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What I'm not if I'm starring them? What's that saying?

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Speaker 3: World renowned okay international Senior security Agent and two fingers

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Speaker 4: Agent.

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Speaker 6: That's quite a title to.

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Speaker 2: What's that about? Anyway? Oh? Advisory advice? Really? All that?

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all his titles, it's Willie Club see unknown location but

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in his bunk.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's great to be here tonight. You know, as

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you know, there's a lot going on around town here

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and Boston. It's not as much going on as they

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have down in West Virginia, but you know there's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep. Well we should say that the Boston

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Red Sox are in the wild kind of playoffs and

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the New England Patriots played their best game in five

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years maybe on Sunday, And so now everyone as I

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whipped up again sports wise in Boston. And when that happens,

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like the whole it's like the weather changes, you know,

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everyone just is going nuts about two things at once

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and so on. So just to give an example, so

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we club has a red Sox. What do you call

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those things? Kelly logo? Logo on this microphone? And then

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where's the you get the Patriots logo kind of floating

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on your screen? Is that it I do?

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Speaker 4: It's one of the flags?

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Speaker 2: Oh well, oh okay, all right. I I they're playing

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the Yankees. I would love at this point to see

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them do something, but you know it's gonna be very hot.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think they'll probably not go any further, but

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they'll win at least one game out of the three,

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and I'll be happy. At least they're going to make

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the playoffs. Whoever thought it is true? And they got

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all these injuries. You remember, if this team didn't have

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their best hitter in, one of their best pitches out,

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and some other injuries, we probably would have no problem

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with the Yankees. As you know, all season long, they've

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and the Yankees are Oh it's a challenge. So I'm

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happy that they just got there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean they have a chance. Yankees are

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really pretty bad on defense or whatever. But I'm surprised,

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I doubted them the entire year. I was predicting a

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collapse and it didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: So well, that's you. You predicted every time.

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Speaker 2: I'm just being logical there. Oh okay, speaking of logical.

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Also with us is a super fan, a good friend

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down there in North Carolina. But she's from this part

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of the world. Susan Kaye, the blonde with the coved

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I am how are you we?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, what do you think? What do you

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Speaker 6: I'm thrilled, Susan.

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Speaker 2: Do I detect a change of scenery?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: Cats? No, there's no cat thing.

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Speaker 8: Behind her in reverse today?

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Speaker 6: Oh okay?

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Speaker 2: The direction, Oh I thought it was some kind of weird.

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Speaker 8: Zoom okay, rese or anything like direction.

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Speaker 2: So cats are still there?

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Speaker 8: In other words, right, yeah, there's they're sleeping.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, okay, good for them. Wow, what a surprise. Cats.

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Let me just pivot back the switch only just to

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wake them up a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I'm waite awake. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: He's preparing something for us, a haircut.

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Speaker 2: Does he look like Richard? Drive us a little bit,

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just a little.

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Speaker 8: He's better looking.

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Speaker 6: Going to do some lines from the Monkman prophecies. Yes, okay,

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are you ready? He's talking to Allen Base, who's playing

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Doctor Leak. Doctor Leak is keels fell backwards and Richard

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when he's he's at his wits end about what's going

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on in Point Pleasant with the Mothman and all the

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bizarre stuff, and he says he looks right at doctor

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Leek and says, didn't you need to know? M Leeke says,

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we're not allowed to know.

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Speaker 4: I gotta go watch that again.

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Speaker 6: It's one of the great scenes between between Gear and

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Uh and Bates. So when they're supposed to be in Chicago,

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of course they're actually in Pittsburgh subbing for Chicago. But

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you know, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I have to say, Steve, when when you first

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said we were comparing you to Richard Dreyfus, and he

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said do you want me to do?

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Speaker 4: And listening he thought you were saying yeah, like.

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Speaker 3: You said Richard gear rich But then then I heard

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Steve say do you want me to do a line?

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And I thought he was being funny From from UH

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Counters when MA have a supplier well again. You know

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Speaker 6: Like, I almost dryfers from Jaws.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead, you're all gonna die. Yeah, can

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I tell you he sucks as an actor?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 2: And and now yes he does, Yes, he does. What

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what are you stroking there? If I can use that word,

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it better be a cat better.

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Speaker 6: Well, this marsupial has been coming to my door.

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Speaker 2: Get that you can't see what you can't? I can

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see it. I can see its ears and he's he's

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making weird motions with his hand. Well he does that

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a lot anyway. Pay no attention to the man behind

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the curtain.

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Speaker 6: Here's here's a piece of tail.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, thank you switched number one, so switch tell

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us about your breakfast today, please, you're talking to someone.

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It was two saltines every morning, so.

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Speaker 6: I was going to drag my carcass up and go

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out to you. I had to even completely uh. I

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still have a completely unloaded the car uh with with

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stuff so uh, but I just I ate it home.

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I had some eggs, sausage legs.

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Speaker 2: And bacon and bacon yessae and bacon. Oh yeah, I

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read the other day that bacon has the same effect

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in dwarphins wise as heroin. See that than it does? Yeah,

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and and and that we at accident of rain the

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same way.

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Speaker 6: I guess sometimes people do score bacon on the street.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, and it said, that's why people

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can never stop eating bacon. And it's true, you know

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what I mean, Like anyone saying I didn't get enough bacon,

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I'm not a real I'm not a real big fan

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of it. It's not okay, but wow, I don't really

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go out of my weight. I mean, this is like,

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let's put it this way. This morning, I could have

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gone and had the early birded Angies, which would have

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been two eggs, bacon and toast, all right. Instead, I

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drove to Duncans and got two glazed donuts in a

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medium a medium regular. That was my breakfast. Now you

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see what I mean, club, I'm left alone. This is

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what happens.

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Speaker 4: You have good taste there you go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well it could have been worse.

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Speaker 6: It could have been Canadian bacon.

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Speaker 8: Oh love Canadian bacon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah me too.

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Speaker 6: It's just ham, is it really?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 6: It makes tastes like to me.

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Speaker 8: The like a syrupy when you when you're brown it

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in the pan and it's that.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, yeah, I love that. They used to

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be arrested. Used to be a bandana we used to

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go to and they would have that and they would

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and it was the first time I ever had fourteen poutine?

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What is it poutine or something? No? Thank you? No wow?

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So that's the Canadian thing. Does everyone know what that is?

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Speaker 8: It's is because I used to put gravy on my

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French fries all the time at work and then somebody

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that was from Canada said, do you know that's I

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don't know how to.

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Speaker 2: Poutine or something? No thank you.

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Speaker 8: I think there's more to it with poutine, like cheese

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or something.

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Speaker 2: Like cheese curage, gravy on very well done fries and

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then they bake it. It's unbelievable. Talk about addicting. I mean,

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everything in there that's bad for you is in there,

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like in double you know and triple. But they used

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to they deserve that, the Canadian bacon and then the

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that stuff that I can never eat, grits. Grits it's

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like eating sand I mean, where were of you know, but.

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Speaker 4: The Canadian bacon. The McDonald's egg mcmuffins always had a

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Canadian bacon. They don't talk about it anymore, but that

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was what they had as part of the egg McMuffin.

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That was the meat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that stuff.

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Speaker 6: We had to pay a tariff on it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not that anyway. Poutine is a dish of French

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fries and she's kurds topped with a hot brown gravy. Yeah,

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I'm sorry, not happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh it's great with ketchup man something about that

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whole texture concept.

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Speaker 2: It's really delicious and stop offending Canadian fans please. So anyway,

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now that I'm extra starving, why don't we do that?

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We are Susan. We have a bunch of lists. We

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have lists tonight lists. Oh we should say Brandy isn't

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here tonight because she's on a I don't want to

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call it a pilgrimage sabbatical. Maybe she's going to a

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place called Holy Hill, which has been I guess the

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scene of some miraculous events, a lot of kind of

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religious odd stuff going on there. And also one one

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one is on his secret mission. So it's just us tonight,

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So we have lists.

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Speaker 8: I do have a list.

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Speaker 2: Yes, why don't we just go right to it absolutely so.

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Speaker 8: My list is from my favorite book, mc maloney's Haunted Universe,

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on sale everywhere, thank you, and the first one on

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my list is the Ethereal Passengers. On December twenty ninth,

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nineteen seventy two, Eastern Airlines Flight four oh one crashed

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into the Florida Everglades while trying to land at Miami

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International Airport. The accident killed one hundred and one people,

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including the pilot and the flight engineer. The doomed plane

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was a three engine L one one one TriStar wide body,

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a fairly new design. After the crash, the ghosts of

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the pilot and engineer were reportedly seen on more than

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twenty occasions aboard other Eastern Airlines flights. Witnesses included people

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who had known both men, as well as others who

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identified them from photographs later on. The ghosts, who appeared

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as being wholly lifelike, were most frequently seen aboard other

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Trystars that had been fitted with parts salvaged from the

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Flight four oh one crash. Although Eastern's management later called

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the ghost story's garbage, all parts taken from Flight four

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oh one were eventually removed from other Eastern aircraft Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now let's think about this. Eastern is no longer their

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own business. They were not a business. So you have

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this crash and I remember it, it was a big,

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big story back then, and all these people got killed.

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Eastern Airlines salvages pots from the crash plane, puts them

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on other planes, and on those planes the ghosts of

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the pilot and the flight engineer a scene. Now think

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about that for a second. First of all, I can't

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believe any kind of a company would do something like that.

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But second of all, look at that. That's almost like

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that's not even a dotted line, that's a straight line.

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You know, why would something like that happen? And our

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old friend Coco told me once that what they really,

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what they did was all the people because I think

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that that flight originated either out I think it originated

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out of New York. But a lot of the pilots

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knew each other. So they had this kind of secret

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meeting of all the Eastern Airlines pilots and they had

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like a seance, they had, you know, they burned stuff

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just to get rid of these ghosts, and apparently it happened.

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But how odd is that? How odd is that that that.

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Speaker 4: You know, Mac, I have a theory on that. You

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know that when they had that accident, of course they splatted,

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the DNA was probably all over that plane, you know,

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so you know, pieces of DNA are still in those

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pots that were later added to the planes. I think

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DNA could have something to do with it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, if they were using the control sticks off,

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they're using anything in the cockpit, reusing them. But don't

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you think it's morbid and even I mean moved in

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a way that you would recycle pots from from an

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airplane that of yours that crashed.

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Speaker 4: No, not if it didn't cause the crash.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it was, I mean did the passengers.

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Speaker 8: Now I wouldn't want to get on that plane if

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I was.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they advertise it. No, Yeah, you know, I wonder.

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Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, if that plane crashed into

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the Everglades, that's salt water is brackish at least. I mean,

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once you hit anything in salt water, a salt ish water,

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pretty much it's done right, you know. I mean I

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can't believe, you know, for them to pull parts out

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of an airplane and reuse them, that was pretty nervy.

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I would think most of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's really cheap, cheap, you know, do you really want

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to fly in an airline like that? And the way

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I think is Frank Bowman, who was one of the

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first men around the moon, was the president of Eastern

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Airlines when that happened. I'm sure it was kind of

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like a you know, uh, what do you call that

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a position? He wasn't really an airline guy, but he

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was a famous guy. He was he was the face. Yeah,

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he was a good fake. He was a trustworthy face.

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But you know.

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Speaker 3: Those those when that plane crashed, they you know, there

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was I heard jet fuel everywhere in the Everglades, which

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made kind of an ecological disaster. But they said the

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alligators came in and finished off whatever. Yeah, you know,

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whatever was the people that were there, whatever parts of them.

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So I don't know how much of the people they

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actually got out of there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, standing was they got They got there

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so quick that they got most of them out of there. Okay,

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rescue teams, yeah, they had it all out of the

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same day, the people. But you're right, I'm sure the

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alligators had a feast on something that got thrown away,

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you know, out the window or something on.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, imagine what.

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Speaker 3: Wow, they thought every topic they thought it was a buffet,

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you know, like the crazy of Eastern Airlines. Yeah, and

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they were saying, you know, they say, the airline food's

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not good. But all right, yeah, alligator human cool. So anyway, okay,

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let's move on, sirs.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So my second title is the Ghost Plane of

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nineteen thirty three. One of New York State's oldest unsolved

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mysteries is the Ghost Plane of nineteen thirty three. On

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the afternoon of December twenty sixth, during a brutal snowstorm,

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every airfield in the Greater New York City area was

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asked to turn on its landing lights in hopes that

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an airplane heard circling the city might be able to land.

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Attempts to contact the plane by radio had failed. No

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one knew who was flying it or where it had

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come from. Workers in Manhattan skyscrapers were the first to

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hear the planes drone. By nightfall, the NYPD was fielding

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numerous calls from people seeing an airplane flying dangerously close

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to the ground as if looking for a place to land.

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But then the ghost airplane simply disappeared. It did not

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land at any airport in the area. No crashes were reported,

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nor were any airplanes or pilots ever reported missing.

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Speaker 2: So this is kind of strange. So in nineteen thirty three,

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they did have skyscrapers in Manhattan, so in the Empire

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State Building being one of them, and they did have

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a lot of you know, airline activity down there because

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that was you know, such a major, you know, hub

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of things going on. So these people in the snowstorms

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see this airplane just almost like trying to desperately land somewhere,

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and they hear it and they see it, and this

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thing is like flying almost like down Fifth Avenue, and

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people in the skyscrapers are looking down on it. That's

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how low this thing is. Fine, and so everyone, as

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they say, all the airports were to all turned on

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your lights, be on the lookout for this thing. But

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it never lands. No one ever reports it landing, no

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one ever reports it crashing. There's no plane crash, there's

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no nothing, No one is reported missing, no planes are

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reported missing. So what was it? So many people saw it?

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You know, sorry, I mean this thing is doing then

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literally flying down the middle of New York City. So

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how can something like that happen. You know, how strange

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is that?

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Speaker 8: And then the sound just stops right and just.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, and where to go?

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Speaker 8: Oh time?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, like an odd thing that a lot of

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people witnessed and like was never explained. Okay, kind of

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like this show anyway. At next, please Susan.

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Speaker 8: Our next one is called the thunder Screech. Back in

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nineteen fifty five, the US Air Force came up with

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an odd idea use a jet engine to spin a propeller.

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Airplane designers went to work and created the x F

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eighty four thunder Screech Fighter, so called due to the

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ungodly noise it made whenever it took flight because the

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propeller spun faster than the speed of sound. It was

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by far the loudest plane ever built, with its engine

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herd starting up from twenty five miles away. However, the

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sonic waves the aircraft gave off were so powerful that

469
00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:00,359
they blew out ear drums, caused nausea and vomiting, and

470
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,519
in some cases even provoked epileptic seizures among ground crews.

471
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,200
The thunder Screech project was canceled just later, excuse me,

472
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:11,559
just a year later.

473
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,599
Speaker 2: First of all, what a name for a plane, the

474
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,880
thunder screench doesn't a propeller lose efficiency once it goes

475
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,200
once it go supersonic? Maybe maybe that's why they said

476
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,480
a lot of the fighter planes the propellers weren't any

477
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:32,960
bigger because even though they were only going some fifteen

478
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,640
hundred r pm at the hub, by the time you

479
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,240
got out to the end of the diameter of the blades, yep,

480
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,079
they could go super sonic. And then they stopped, they

481
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,799
stopped grabbing air. Yeah, yeah, funnything like that. I don't

482
00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:45,839
know I heard it. I don't know they didn't know

483
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,279
that at this time. But this thing, you know, it's

484
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,640
just one of these things. Back in the fifties especially,

485
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,319
they would like they would Frankenstein airplanes a lot, you know,

486
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,720
and they put this in this this spot on this

487
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:59,160
spot and stuff like that. But I thought it was interesting.

488
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200
Number one, you could hear of this thing twenty five

489
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:05,759
miles away, twenty five miles long. And also that was

490
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:06,359
like so a lot.

491
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

492
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: You can you see the like the acus, like Pulka

493
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,559
and all over the place. Yeah yeah, yeah, So good

494
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,519
name though, the thunderscreation. Good name for beer.

495
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 8: What must it have been like to like fly inside

496
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:19,839
of it.

497
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, flying it next?

498
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:28,039
Speaker 8: Li su all right, the next one is the empty cockpit.

499
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,200
One of the oddest ghost plane mysteries ever happened. Sorry,

500
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:38,839
one of the oddest ghost plane mysteries ever happened. In

501
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:46,119
March of twenty seventeen, authorities in Marathon, Ontario, Canada, received

502
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,720
a report that a Cessna one two flying out of

503
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:55,000
Michigan had crashed near the north shore of Lake Superior

504
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:59,319
shortly before midnight. But when local rescue teams reached the

505
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,319
crash site, they made a startling discovery. Not only was

506
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:06,880
there no sign of the pilot, there weren't any footprints

507
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,680
in the snow around the crashed plane either. So how

508
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,480
did it get there? And what happened to the person

509
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:14,559
who was flying it?

510
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that with And there's a picture of it

511
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,480
in this book that Susan is referring to, where cessna

512
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,799
is just in the middle of the woods in a

513
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,000
snow bank, but no footprints around it and no one

514
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:35,799
inside it. So how does that happen? I mean, first

515
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:39,039
of all, how it wasn't crash. He was just kind

516
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:43,799
of there and someone had been radio someone obviously had

517
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:47,240
been flying it, So way do you go if there's

518
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,559
no footprints around? When they got there, it was just

519
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:51,720
a plane sitting in this kind of clearing in the

520
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:54,200
middle of the forest. How's that happen?

521
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,079
Speaker 3: Maybe he did a get out before he bailed somewhere

522
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,519
like over water, snowed again after he got out, after

523
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,839
he got footprints.

524
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,119
Speaker 2: Well maybe you know. I mean, it took them a

525
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,640
while to find it and get there for sure, But

526
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,920
who knows Our next usable The.

527
00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:23,839
Speaker 8: Next is called the swing wing ghosts. The US built

528
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,319
f B one one one Ardvark was the first operational

529
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,359
military swing wing aircraft. It was designed as a fighter bomber,

530
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:38,480
and its pilots could adjust their wings forward for landings,

531
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,160
midway back for normal flight, or flared all the way

532
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,000
back for supersonic flight. A technological marvel for its time,

533
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,279
the FB one one one also employed an extremely advanced

534
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:55,000
flight control system that allowed its pilots to fly very

535
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:59,440
low in order to evade enemy radar. Used mostly in

536
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:03,759
Vietnam as a special mission aircraft, and FB one to

537
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:08,640
eleven took off from Udorn Air Force Base in northern

538
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:15,000
Thailand one night for a sortie over communist North Vietnam

539
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,200
by all accounts, the plane accomplished its mission, but was

540
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:23,119
hit by enemy ground fire on its return flight. All

541
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:25,960
communications with the plane ceased and it was given up

542
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,039
as lost, one of several hundred American warplanes shot down

543
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,200
during the war. Yet just around the time it was

544
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:37,119
due back at Udorn, the plane appeared on the basi's

545
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,480
radar screens. Astonished ground personnel watched as it landed and

546
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:45,359
taxied over to its hangar, but on opening its canopy,

547
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:49,359
the air mechanics found both pilots were dead, killed by

548
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,640
shrapnel from an anti aircraft burst. The plane's sophisticated flight

549
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,440
controls undamaged in the explosion, kept the aircraft flying and

550
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:00,880
brought it to pilots home.

551
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,079
Speaker 2: Wow, a lot of shows. Yeah, this is the sixties

552
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:09,279
technology do in this too. I remember those planes. I

553
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,440
mean they were you know, like halfway between a fighter

554
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,759
and a bomber. You know, there were sizeable planes when

555
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,400
they built them. I member there was some kind of

556
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,359
controversy Kennedy was involved or whatever. So, but they have

557
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,279
this plane that has this radar in it where they'd

558
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:30,160
be able to set like one hundred and fifty feet okay,

559
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,079
and then turn it over to you know, like the autopilot,

560
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,200
and no matter what, the plane would stay at one fifty,

561
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,519
go over a mountain, it would still be at one fifty,

562
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:41,839
you know, like that real terrain guidance type stuff, you know.

563
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:46,160
And they handle a lot of the some of the

564
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,119
stuff that were in the moon landings, that kind of

565
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:52,039
similar technology, you know. But the thing just they would

566
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:55,480
put in a flight plan in the computer and they

567
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,079
would follow it, follow it no matter what, you know.

568
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,440
And and we and we're struggling to get shelf driving cars. Yeah, yeah,

569
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:04,599
this is something that they have airplanes that will land

570
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,880
themselves with. That story was actually told to me by

571
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,679
someone who was based there at the time. And you

572
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,599
doing Thailand during the wall, So yeah, let's have a

573
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,800
creepy story next Leson.

574
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 8: Alrighty, the next one is the right Stuff Ghost. Shortly

575
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,719
before eight am on June thirteenth of nineteen ninety three,

576
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:30,199
a bright red Formula one speed racer airplane appeared over

577
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,320
the John Wayne Airport in Orange County, California. A small

578
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,320
plane with a huge engine, it made so much of

579
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,400
a racket that it tripped the airport's noise monitoring systems

580
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:45,519
in place because the Wayne airport, being close to so

581
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:49,719
many residents, is boasts one of the strictest airport noise

582
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,159
abatement programs in the country. As the midget racer began

583
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,159
to fly various acrobatic maneuvers above the airport, enough people

584
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:05,039
saw it to down the ID number emblazoned on its fuselage.

585
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:08,599
Then they watched as the plane later confirmed as the

586
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,920
FAA registered N twenty one X, slowly climbed and disappeared

587
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,679
over the Pacific. Working with witnesses information, airport officials sent

588
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,079
a noise violation notice to the plane's owner, who just

589
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:27,920
happened to be Deeke Slayton, one of NASA's original seven

590
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:32,079
Mercury astronauts and commander of the famous nineteen seventy five

591
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:38,280
Apollo sy Soyuz space mission. What the airport officials didn't

592
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,360
know was that Slayton had passed away five years before,

593
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,159
dying at his home in Houston, fifteen hundred miles from

594
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:50,440
Orange County, with his wife and daughter at his bedside,

595
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,880
and his airplane was locked away in a hangar in Spock's, Nevada,

596
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,760
whose owner later testified that it had not been flown

597
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,920
or even taken from a Tanger. Since Slayton gave it

598
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,920
to him a few years before, no one has ever

599
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,559
been able to explain the bizarre incident.

600
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: Don't think it's down man. How weird is that? You

601
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,400
have all these people, they see this plane. They kind

602
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,920
of know because he used to fly out of there.

603
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,519
Apparently a lot took down his number. He's doing acrobatic

604
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,840
things that he used to do. But the guy, but

605
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,119
he was, he was he was dead. I mean, how

606
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,400
maybe it's that guy that dive bombs the island all

607
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,639
the time. Yeah, yeah, maybe a little too local, a

608
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:35,719
little too inside. But I mean, how does stuff like

609
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,519
that happen? I'm going to say the club, because the

610
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:41,639
club has a that he's watching the he's watching the

611
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:44,719
red size scheming as a look of wonder in his face.

612
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:50,039
Speaker 4: No, you know, every whenever Susan does a presentation, it

613
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:52,880
always gets my attention because she does such a great job.

614
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,159
But I'm glad that you noticed that it looked like

615
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,400
I was distracted. But I'd like to take everything in.

616
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,719
I'm like a yes, and all of the things that

617
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,239
she mentioned really got my attention. As you know, I

618
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,760
have also, I have that book, that book before, so

619
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,840
I've heard this all before, but but Susan did an

620
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,800
excellent job presenting it. And I am not watching the

621
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,079
game because I don't have a TV in this room.

622
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, but I do have.

623
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: I can tell you it's nothing or nothing in the

624
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:24,920
second inning.

625
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:27,679
Speaker 2: Okay, good, I'll tell you what. We're going to clap

626
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:31,280
to Susan now and on that kind of weird now

627
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,239
and but we'll be back. We're going to be back.

628
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,400
Let's take a little break here, Okay, all right, so

629
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,039
you're listening to macnaloney's military style show here in the

630
00:37:40,079 --> 00:38:12,639
Distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay tuned. Welcome back, and

631
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:14,880
we went to Mac Maloney's Militarcks I'll show here on

632
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:20,760
the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Mac maloney broadcasting

633
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:26,360
live from the Stovid Gallley fifty five Water Street, May four, Massachusetts.

634
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,760
Great Seafood, Great Hamburg. Is any great steak? And she's me.

635
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,320
We're in the middle of a very interesting show, both

636
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,400
on the air and off the air. But living quickly,

637
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,000
let me introduce the members of the Polastic Girls. No

638
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:44,800
One one tonight, but Uncle Ale's here. Are you sure?

639
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:47,079
What are your speechless?

640
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:47,679
Speaker 8: No?

641
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,159
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure you were done yet. I went, yeah,

642
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:53,559
I didn't know if you were engineer, get away driver

643
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:57,239
or be killing you know at whatever.

644
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: You want a temporary bachelor? Yeah, yeah, right two weeks.

645
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,159
Two weeks. You're going to be on two weeks? Should

646
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:07,480
I have lower send food over?

647
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: No? No, please don't, because I'm I've got more food

648
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,960
than you need. I got plenty. And you know, I

649
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,599
was going to go and get Chinese last night and

650
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,639
I had to go to uttle car show next town over.

651
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,719
So I figured I killed two birds at one stone

652
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,320
and drive over, parked the car for a while, you know,

653
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,239
meet a few friends, and then from there I call

654
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,880
a Chinese place and then pick it up on the

655
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,360
way home. We have family. Is a China one the

656
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,719
one in Salisbury Center? Good Fortune?

657
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 8: Oh?

658
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: That one all good Fortune? Yeah? Go ahead. They're closed

659
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:40,400
on Mondays? Who closes? And I'm like, what are you serious?

660
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 5: Now?

661
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,599
Speaker 2: I can't even get the Chinese food. I have to

662
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:47,360
get down a family restaurant. The dude on the one, yeah,

663
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,119
I can't. I can't eat there. Why I get I

664
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:52,639
have food allergies to them. I ate there once I

665
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:56,760
almost died. Okay, part of the very very weird food

666
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,239
energies I have. I ate there once a number of

667
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,039
years ago and on never going to try it again.

668
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:06,320
All right, cool, But I did stop at the butchery

669
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,159
on the way home. Gotta container of chicken salad and

670
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,400
some buns, a bag of chips, wow huh, and a

671
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,679
an eighteen pack of beer and an eighteen pack. I

672
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,960
don't want to go back. I don't want to go

673
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,079
a couple of days. It's yeah, so it was supper.

674
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,280
It's a problem. I mean people, you know, I don't

675
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,280
realize it, but it's a problem getting going back and

676
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,480
forth off the island, right, it is. It's a pain.

677
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:31,199
And if you.

678
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 8: Continue to live on an exclusive island.

679
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:39,679
Speaker 3: Right it's like there's only one liquor store on the island.

680
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,199
One like a two bars and the liquor store. I

681
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:45,320
think everything on the island charges stupid money.

682
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,559
Speaker 2: But but but what bothers me too convenience. I mean,

683
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:52,000
it's not an exclusive place. It's it's a barrier island

684
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:56,079
for you know, for the most part. But that drive,

685
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:59,159
the drive to leave is like two miles through the marshes,

686
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,039
right right right down the turnpike, and you get some

687
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:05,760
delude doing the friggin speed limit, which is like twenty

688
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,840
five miles an hour or something. It's like ten minutes.

689
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,360
You want to kill him, you want to kill them.

690
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,079
It's that's my daily frustration. But actually a couple of

691
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:18,599
years ago, I I had put a new exhaust on

692
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:22,079
my motorcycle and I I was talking to Mack about it.

693
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,679
We did this, and he's like, yeah, well, he goes,

694
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:27,039
I'll be on my deck and you you drive off

695
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,320
the island and I'll see how far I can hear you.

696
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:34,239
First of all, put you put illegal Australian mufflers on

697
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,559
your what what kind of bike? It's a Honda CBX okay,

698
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:41,400
so what is that like? It's an eleven hundred okay,

699
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,840
six cylinder Honda motorcycle. Six cylinder motorcycle, folks, So he

700
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,000
is illegal pipes on it. So he said, I went

701
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:52,840
how far these can be heard? So I said, well, okay,

702
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,760
I'll stand up my deck. You take off, and I'll

703
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,079
and I'll just tell you when I don't hear you anymore.

704
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,199
Think about fifteen minutes later you're driving up around.

705
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:06,599
Speaker 3: You know, he heard me down shift to take the corner.

706
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,119
I don't know about seven miles off the island. You

707
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,880
heard me take it down two gears before I turned

708
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,840
and got on it again.

709
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

710
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: He was like, well I heard you hit Ralph Lane

711
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,440
and I was like, well, yeah, that's that's about right.

712
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: That's a long way away anyway. Also with us u

713
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:26,760
uh is he awake now? Okay? Good?

714
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 8: Uh?

715
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,599
Speaker 2: Switch ful a Steve one down there and my sister's

716
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:35,280
underwear West Virginia switchy, No, sister's tank top, tank top.

717
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,119
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, yeah, the one hundredth anniversary they changed at

718
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:39,280
the take tuk from underwear.

719
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm at the anniversary. Cool. So so just so

720
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,400
you you had you know, you're kind of you made

721
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,599
your own breakfast today, right, that's what I did right now?

722
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:53,480
Who eats? First? In you're a little about the cats,

723
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:53,880
are you?

724
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 8: Oh?

725
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 6: You get a cats?

726
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: See? Why why is that though? Tell me?

727
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:01,039
Speaker 6: Well, because you know you you to change your water

728
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:04,719
and then you you fill up there. Uh well, well

729
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,159
the first thing you do is purge their uh the

730
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,119
places they have to be purged, okay, and then what.

731
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: You go ahead? Yeah, if it doesn't stop there, it

732
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,119
will never stop. Susan is saying to me, I heard, yes,

733
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:21,679
I know, but and.

734
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:24,679
Speaker 6: Then you you change your water, you fill up their

735
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,280
their drive.

736
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: But what happens if you don't? What happens if you

737
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,239
just wake up one morning and you make your little

738
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,480
switch blackface off.

739
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 6: Big Well, they're they're more interested in my breakfast than

740
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,519
I want them to be.

741
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: Okay, well then I can see you. Okay, I get

742
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:44,920
that anyway, So anything new with you to switch? I

743
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,639
don't know what else to say. You gotta hear cut,

744
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:47,639
you know.

745
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 6: Having back from from preparing for the mock Man Festival,

746
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,960
hanging creatures up in the T and T area, being

747
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,360
the m C, being the tour guide, going back in,

748
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,599
taking down all the critters, and then getting ready to

749
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,199
go to prepare to go to Iowa and then get

750
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,079
to Van Meter, Iowa and then be the EMC there.

751
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So so any I don't want to use

752
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,480
the word groupies. Been any fans uh interact with you

753
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:16,760
during almost.

754
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,159
Speaker 6: Well I've been there many years, so I uh uh

755
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,960
A lot of people know me and I've done the

756
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,119
uh been the MC for several years.

757
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: So okay, Well let me put it there a.

758
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 6: Few times like I have them Offman Festival and.

759
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: Then put it this way. Any groupies hanging around you

760
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,960
with you your groupies.

761
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 6: That might be too strong a word, groupies.

762
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,599
Speaker 2: Let's move on. Okay, all right, thank you switch for

763
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:49,440
your little slice of Yola. Also with us, that's down

764
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,679
there North Carolina. Get that cat is a cat on

765
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,599
his head? Look at that.

766
00:44:56,159 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 6: But my earplug went out?

767
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, real plug. Well your reapplies. You went out there.

768
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:01,960
You know where that tale has been? Dude, you know

769
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,719
what that tale?

770
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 6: No, that's a hat. It's my ball cap.

771
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 2: Susan ka down there in North Carolina. Susan, how are

772
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,000
you club?

773
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 6: He's pouring.

774
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,159
Speaker 8: You skipped club?

775
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm ship, So we're gonna have to really roll. Okay,

776
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,559
hang on, Susan.

777
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:26,159
Speaker 6: This is lucky.

778
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's lucky that I have this just before, gentlemen.

779
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,559
Speaker 2: Let me kind of be wine like Superman goes around

780
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:40,480
and reverses these rotation. Also with us is our senior

781
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:47,880
security chief. Can't I remember World Renown? Can you put

782
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,199
that sign back up? Susan?

783
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: Uh?

784
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 2: You know all those here? They are senior Security Advisor,

785
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:05,440
International agent and and advisor. Well the club? See how

786
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:05,880
you doing?

787
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: Did you see what she had in the end? You

788
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,519
didn't read it?

789
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't know stud did you instead on that? Really? Wow?

790
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't want to embarrass you, Susan,

791
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,760
you know, but you did anyway, So this club, Yes,

792
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,239
how you doing? You know, I'm doing good? You know.

793
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,079
I was listening to you and uh switchy talking about

794
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:34,960
real important things. You know about why you feed your

795
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,360
cats first in the morning, that stuff, and I relate

796
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,280
a brief story when I was a kid and I

797
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,000
always remembered it. And you probably won't want cats after this.

798
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 2: Well, okay, get that cat. So that cat there, Wait.

799
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 6: A minute, club, is the cat going to end up dead?

800
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: No?

801
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: No, he's a happy story for the cat. Be a

802
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,400
sleep of well fed Go ahead, please.

803
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,599
Speaker 4: Well, anyways, I was probably don't know Arou'm ten years

804
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:06,000
old in the house around the corner. The person he

805
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:09,599
was elderly. He died and they didn't find him for

806
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:13,039
about a couple of weeks when they got there. The

807
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:16,519
cats that had a feast. Oh that's a soft tissue. Yeah,

808
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:19,000
well that you get. That's why you always feed your

809
00:47:19,039 --> 00:47:19,880
cats in the morning.

810
00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:23,519
Speaker 2: Well that's true, but eventually, but here's the thing, this

811
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:26,840
is the inevitability of the whole thing. You can feed

812
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,880
your cats early. You know, and then you eat. But

813
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,719
eventually you're just going to drop that and the cats

814
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,599
are going to eat you. And they have no feeling,

815
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:37,960
they have no sympathy for you.

816
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 3: You you why should they starve too?

817
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 4: But anyways, I thought I have to push for that.

818
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,079
Speaker 3: Now that now that my wife is gone for the vacation.

819
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,039
I wake up every morning. I'm I can't sleep to

820
00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,880
start with, but when I wake up, the alarm goes

821
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,440
for six o'clock, I'm pretty much already awake, but I

822
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,639
once the cat's hear the alarm go off, I have two.

823
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,679
The two male cats are standing on me and it's

824
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:14,119
probably forty pounds a cat standing on my chest looking

825
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:18,280
for breakfast. And I'm like, okay, okay, fine, wow, let

826
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,360
me get up. And I got to get downstairs and

827
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:25,000
get their breakfast ready, because there's no peace unless you.

828
00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:28,679
Speaker 2: If someone said once, if aliens actually came here and

829
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,199
they saw what went on, they'd say, well, the cats

830
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,679
rule this world. They think they do. They wake them up,

831
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,760
they get fed, they sleep, they eat again. Someone you know,

832
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,840
cleans their little bikes, takes care of them.

833
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,039
Speaker 3: I would rather clean a litter box than follow a

834
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:49,280
dog around and pick up me, it's a warm dog

835
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,800
poopy in my hand in a plastic bag. That will

836
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,440
never happen. That is not yet. That's one good thing.

837
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:57,440
But the one point in the cat, you know, on

838
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,679
his favor is you don't have to do that. When

839
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:02,519
I see people doing that, I said that that's for

840
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:04,639
human being to do that is a disgrace.

841
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,119
Speaker 4: That's why they have.

842
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even then you still got to walk around

843
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,599
and pick pick up after that. Well most people do

844
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,880
though most people.

845
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:16,559
Speaker 4: Do well in my neighborhood.

846
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,599
Speaker 2: No, and you do it with the bag, but you

847
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:21,039
shouldn't even have to be put in that position, you know.

848
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:24,079
I don't know what the what the solution is.

849
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:27,119
Speaker 4: Don't feed the animal, don't get.

850
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: A dog, don't get a dog, all right, just real quick.

851
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,960
I have I set up and I have a relatively

852
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:38,039
small house. So where my cat's box is, it's in

853
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:39,679
a little area with a door, and they have a

854
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,920
little tiny opening they can go in and out. But

855
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,519
I have a bigger door I can open to clean

856
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:47,119
the box. So that's closed. And when they walk into

857
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:51,559
that entrance way into their litter box, there's a motion

858
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,800
sensor in there. There's a small night light, there's so

859
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,800
they can see what they're doing. There's a motion sensor,

860
00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:02,679
and there's a a hose that goes down through the

861
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,199
walls and down into my basement to a bathroom fan

862
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,719
that actually takes vents out the backyard.

863
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you can't.

864
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,679
Speaker 3: So every time the cat goes in and uses the box,

865
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:17,960
the fan kicks on automatically. The smell goes outside for

866
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:21,440
like five minutes, and then the cat leaves, and then

867
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,719
the smell doesn't come in the house.

868
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,599
Speaker 2: How do you don't patent that? How do you know

869
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,199
how well?

870
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,159
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to be able to tear into

871
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:29,960
the house and do it does the house, it goes

872
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,719
out the backyard. And you know, actually, I've been out

873
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,519
in the backyard raking in the in the spring and

874
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:37,280
I'm out there ringing.

875
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is that stink?

876
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,159
Speaker 3: And then I look over and I can see the

877
00:50:41,159 --> 00:50:44,519
little dryer event flapping and it's not my dryer, it's

878
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:45,559
the cat's litter box.

879
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: There's a different smell come from max house.

880
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 8: The bees died.

881
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: Don't listens. I've introduced every when Susan's everyone's so I

882
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:58,440
have to say this talk about l'sb's so the other day.

883
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:03,559
I'm out doing my exercise, let's say, and I come

884
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:07,599
in the house and I can literally hear a buzzing

885
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:11,159
in my ears. So I'm going, what is this? You know?

886
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,840
I mean, and I'm looking around, I mean everything buzz

887
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,360
and buzzy. Go in the other room and I put

888
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,239
my hoodie down, and one of your bees because they

889
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,599
had a little a on his is in my hoodie.

890
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:28,400
How does happen? Right? He was very difficult to get

891
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,800
ready to get get off the property. Yeah, yeah, but

892
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,880
I did you know, I know he'd fly back, but

893
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:40,920
he was very tenacious, he was crafty, she or whatever. Yeah,

894
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,760
but finally I kind of shoot her out. I just

895
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,079
were taking a fly swatter and whacked her. Oka of them,

896
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:52,000
you kill forty thousand, I would prefer not to even

897
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:57,719
kill one. So anyway, Susan, now what do you do?

898
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,599
You have one one list? You did that so well,

899
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:05,519
we should keep doing it. Jewkaank you let's do that.

900
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 8: From this amazing book mc maloney's Haunted Universe on cell everywhere.

901
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:12,679
Speaker 2: Thank you.

902
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 8: So. Our next topic is the atomic hand grenade. Cool

903
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:21,800
dreamed up in the nineteen fifties. The idea was to

904
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,719
build a nuclear bomb the size of a baseball, to

905
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,719
be used on the battlefield against masses of enemy armor.

906
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,360
Such a weapon was to contain super excited elements called

907
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,559
isomers to generate the atomic blast. However, the energy of

908
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,280
just one isomer can equal the equivalent of twenty tons

909
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,519
of explosives, which brings up the question, how could any

910
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:53,159
soldier throw such a grenade and not likely be killed

911
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,440
by its own blasts.

912
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 2: Let's think about this.

913
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,559
Speaker 8: It'd have to have a good army, how.

914
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,679
Speaker 2: They say, and the I don't volunteer for anything. This

915
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,039
would be you know, one of the reasons why how

916
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:09,000
can you why would you even why would they even

917
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,840
get best the first sentence, because you're never going to

918
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,800
get a person to throw the handgun it that's going

919
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,440
to live right. I'm looking at you out well.

920
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I would imagine, depending on what you're hiding behind,

921
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,480
you might have some protection from.

922
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,199
Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty twenty tons of dynamite. How do you

923
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:30,039
gonna go? Well, how do you? I mean?

924
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:30,559
Speaker 8: No?

925
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,039
Speaker 2: All right, so it has the equivalent to twenty tons

926
00:53:33,039 --> 00:53:33,559
of dynamite?

927
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:38,039
Speaker 3: What is it? What's it made out of? I mean,

928
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,840
if you'd have to be nuclear or something. Yeah, it is.

929
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,800
It's it's a nuke. Okay, well you're dead. Yeah, so

930
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,679
it's a kmicaze. It's it's your you know, it's a

931
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,440
suicide bomb. Wow, it's a bomb of last resort. That's funny.

932
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,159
Like sorry, no, next, Susan, I'll take a rain check

933
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:54,400
on that.

934
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 8: The next one is America's suicide pilots. When the Cold

935
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,159
War began, the United States had not yet developed an

936
00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:08,239
aircraft capable of carrying enough fuel to drop a nuclear

937
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,960
bomb on Russia and return home safely. So the Pentagon

938
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,280
took a page right out of Japan's War Tactics Manual

939
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,679
and proposed sending American pilots on one way kamakaji missions

940
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,519
to Russia. Thankfully, in the early nineteen fifties, jet powered

941
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:27,559
bombers like the B thirty six and the B forty

942
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:32,119
seven were introduced. These aircraft could fly to Russia, drop

943
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:34,480
a nuke, stay out of the way of the blast,

944
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,639
which is a bonus, and make it home safely with

945
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,599
fuel to spare.

946
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,119
Speaker 2: Let's say, hey, B thirty six bomber, it's the one

947
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:49,239
had six engines and two jet engines on it. It's

948
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:54,039
the biggest thing they ever built, just this enormous nineteen

949
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:57,639
fifties you know technology, you know what I mean. For

950
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,639
the guys you get from the front to the back.

951
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,159
There's a little train.

952
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they had the cart they laid on and

953
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,920
they rolled their way through the bomb bay and everything.

954
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they to fix the engines. They were had

955
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,360
to constantly oil the engines. They crawl out into the wing.

956
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,239
The wing had like little tunnels and stuff.

957
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 3: Don't be claustrophobic, yeah, I mean, I mean why at

958
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,320
that point, why didn't they come up with something like

959
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,280
they did with the Doolittle raid, you know, launch them

960
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,159
and then have them crash somewhere out of Russia where

961
00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:28,320
they could be picked up or dump them in the ocean,

962
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,719
having an aircraft carrier or a even a destroyer waiting

963
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:31,920
for it.

964
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: There'll be a nuclear whaw, So it wouldn't make any

965
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,159
difference real, Yeah, but I mean, you know, you give

966
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:38,159
the guy a chance, like they run out of planes

967
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:43,159
that way. The best anything, best movie to answer that question,

968
00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:46,159
Everyone should go. If you haven't seen it, go see

969
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:51,679
Doctor Strangelove. It explains everything, you know, such a great movie.

970
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:53,400
But like you know that kind of stuff, you know,

971
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,679
why do stuff when you're gonna blow up the world

972
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:01,000
glym pickens anyway, Yeah, yeah, is great. Man.

973
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 8: The planes that I think we talked about them on

974
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,599
another show that for so twenty four hours a day

975
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,239
the US had had a plane in the air.

976
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: Had about probably twenty probably two dozen planes in the year,

977
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,800
twenty four hours a day for maybe twenty years or so.

978
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,599
They were always ready. That's how they screwed. That's how

979
00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:26,320
they spook the Russians. Let's say, okay, because no matter

980
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,119
how much the Russians were made to be the boogeyman,

981
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,239
they were never anywhere even close to what the United

982
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,880
States was is now. But the thing is because the

983
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,119
Russians had to wake up every day saying they were,

984
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:44,880
you know, two dozen American bombers constantly circling us, and

985
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,039
they're gonna they'll bomb us in ten minutes, right, And

986
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,280
back then that was like really really quick. Weren't they

987
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,320
coming out of Peace Air Force? I don't know they

988
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,480
were fueled at Peace The tank is come out, that's right,

989
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,079
that's right up the street from US, and I'm sure

990
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:02,000
there would be forty seven's there problem. But this is

991
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:05,960
this is I mean, this is how we Our defense

992
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,320
was in the fifties. This is your you did it.

993
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,639
You did it on quantity that clonity and the Russians

994
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:14,880
never hit could could beat it. And then they the

995
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,719
missiles and ICBMs are cheaper and you don't have to

996
00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:20,599
do this. And then the Russians and Americans kind of

997
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:23,800
got together there would go ub he was, you know,

998
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,199
and they did away with them completely back then when

999
00:57:28,239 --> 00:57:30,000
the wall came down all that kind of stuff. But

1000
00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:35,679
meage the money, maybe the money that that costs. Curtis

1001
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:37,920
la May if you know his name, he ran it.

1002
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:40,960
He started it, the just it. But it was good

1003
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,159
training for the pilots, let's face it, you know. But wow,

1004
00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:50,760
wow what But that's how it's called nuclear peace. I mean,

1005
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,039
that's how they kept the mutually assured destruction. We're going

1006
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:57,239
to bond the hell out of you. Why start anything?

1007
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:03,360
And it worked, you know, weird, you know, a nervous way. Susan,

1008
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,920
please all right.

1009
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 8: Our next one is the Flying Dorrito. In nineteen eighty three,

1010
00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:17,079
US defense contractors McDonnell, Douglas and General Dynamics teamed up

1011
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,159
to win a Navy contract to design an all weather

1012
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:26,320
carrier launched self aircraft called the A twelve Avenger two,

1013
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,400
But when the project was completed, what the Navy got

1014
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,920
instead was a plane with a cool nickname, the Flying

1015
00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:39,719
Dorrito for its triangular shape, but also a multi excuse me,

1016
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,039
a multitude of flaws, cost overruns, and a history of

1017
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:48,639
colossal mismanagement. The A twelve never got off the drawing

1018
00:58:48,679 --> 00:58:52,320
board and was canceled in nineteen ninety one. The cost

1019
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,800
to tax payers for a plane that never flew five billion.

1020
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:03,239
Speaker 2: Nice, okay, listen, I have to do an update on that. Okay.

1021
00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:08,039
So that happened, and you know, the Navy spent six

1022
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:13,480
billion for nothing, Okay, But since then, what they did

1023
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:18,559
was they took the let's say, the technology that came

1024
00:59:18,599 --> 00:59:21,519
from something that failed but you know, not everything and

1025
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:26,599
it fails. They put that together and that is the

1026
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:29,280
the drone that is now on the Predator. Yeah, the

1027
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,079
Predator drone, I guess, you know. Yeah, and you look

1028
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:35,400
at it the Reaper drones and stuff, you know, literally

1029
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,599
a fine to rito. But so you know, that's the

1030
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:42,000
thing about and is that, you know, you can write

1031
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,480
a book about airplanes that have failed and stuff, rockets

1032
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,599
that have failed, but they don't always completely failed. They

1033
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:52,760
always take the technology from ten different things and put

1034
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,440
it into one plane. You know, for everything they tested

1035
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,000
Era fifty one, and that's what they do. There is

1036
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:02,599
test on top secret designs for planes like nine of

1037
01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:05,199
them don't work, but they take the technology from those

1038
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,639
nine and they put it into ten and you have

1039
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,760
like the stealth fighter. You know. So that's how it works. Yeah, funny. Anyway,

1040
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,840
next Susabing, All right, Our.

1041
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:21,079
Speaker 8: Next one is because Salmon swim upstream. It was a

1042
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:25,480
dream scenario back in the nineteen fifties design a plane

1043
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,639
that was half helicopter half combat fighter. To fulfill the

1044
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,280
Navy's desire to have all its vessels, not just aircraft carriers,

1045
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:41,679
carry wall planes. Designed the x FV Salmon. With its

1046
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,639
landing gear located in the tail, it could take off vertically,

1047
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,039
then turn over to level in mid flight and fly normally.

1048
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:55,000
The revolutionary design would have been perfect except for one

1049
01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:59,280
significant flaw. It was just about impossible for the plane

1050
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:05,280
to reverse the process and land well because the pilot

1051
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,400
could not see behind him.

1052
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: They didn't have a backup camera. Weigh about two tons

1053
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,519
back then, you know, once again, they would build these

1054
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:22,000
things in the fifties, there was this kind of vibe

1055
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:24,880
that just let's put anything together, let's see what works

1056
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,840
type thing, you know, And and they built all these

1057
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,599
like crazy things. They made a flying sas a fighter

1058
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:32,320
once and you know that kind of stuff. They threw

1059
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,000
it against the wall and saw what stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1060
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,480
especially back then. And they put all these like kind

1061
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,960
of crazy like a nuclear bomber, a bomber that would

1062
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,239
fly forever because they had a nuclear reactor in it,

1063
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:45,480
but you would have to you would have to carry

1064
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,320
fifty tons of lead, you know, to the shielders of

1065
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,760
the pilots don't die in flight. But they would do

1066
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,880
these crazy things. So anyway, nice, Lisa's.

1067
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 8: All right. So I hope they paid these pilots that

1068
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,199
were the first to fly these aircraft. I hope they

1069
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:10,559
flew paid them. Well, the next one is the nuclear

1070
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:13,239
powered nuclear bomber.

1071
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: We go, right, Yes, I just.

1072
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,639
Speaker 8: Want to make sure this wasn't one. I already just

1073
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:25,679
said sorry about that. The idea here was to design

1074
01:02:25,719 --> 01:02:29,280
an aircraft that could harness the power of an onboard

1075
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,360
nuclear reactor and stay in the air for several weeks

1076
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:39,480
without needing to land or refuel. Basically a flying battleship.

1077
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,239
There would be three rotating crews, quarters to house them,

1078
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:50,159
a dining hall, lavatories, the works. But there were problems. First,

1079
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:53,719
the more time such a plane was airborne, the more

1080
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,400
time the crew would be exposed to its reactors deadly radiation.

1081
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:01,960
It was estimated that twelve tons of lead would be

1082
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:06,679
required just to protect the crew, virtually impossible from an

1083
01:03:06,679 --> 01:03:10,679
aerodynamics point of view. Second, the plane would have been

1084
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,639
so enormous it would have required a hangar the size

1085
01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:18,400
of a football field to house it, and a runway

1086
01:03:18,679 --> 01:03:22,840
three miles long for takeoffs and landings. Cool Then there

1087
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,679
was the threat of the plane crashing while carrying all

1088
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,519
of that nuclear material. Seeing very little upside, the Pentagon

1089
01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:34,039
scrapped the idea in nineteen sixty one.

1090
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: But amazing, amazing that the engineering would have been incredible

1091
01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:45,199
to actually have a plumb mat that take off. But

1092
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:48,320
again it was that thinking in the fifties that we

1093
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:53,039
can do anything type thing. We should try anything before

1094
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:53,519
it can.

1095
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,199
Speaker 3: Look in a nuclear submarine, they they can shield the

1096
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,440
crew from the nuke. I don't think it's twelve tons

1097
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,360
of lead in a submarine, or it wouldn't come back up.

1098
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,760
They must have figured something out a switch. Yeah, it

1099
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,679
was your sub nuclear power of regular power nuclear.

1100
01:04:11,679 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 6: I don't know if they had any diesel boats going.

1101
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,639
Speaker 2: Back then at that time or not, so, so you

1102
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:19,400
know what was it was? It just a place in

1103
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,719
the sub that you just did not know wherever the

1104
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,880
reactor was wherever?

1105
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 6: Uh well you uh it was what they call the

1106
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:34,119
tdu well trash disposal unit. And when you're mess cooking,

1107
01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:36,079
when you're low on the totel pull, you have to

1108
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:39,079
take care of the trash well. The other other side

1109
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:43,880
of the bulkhead is the reactor. So you know, you

1110
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,400
weren't supposed to spend a whole lot of time in there, okay.

1111
01:04:47,679 --> 01:04:51,239
Uh voice carried docimitters, so we knew how many millirem

1112
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,519
we would have gotten. Yeah, but uh so there were

1113
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,360
and you would uh it was the what do they

1114
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,639
call it the reactor? I forget what it was, but

1115
01:05:01,679 --> 01:05:04,679
it was the the place above the reactor. You went

1116
01:05:04,719 --> 01:05:09,840
from the forward spaces to the uh apt engineering spaces

1117
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,599
and you would actually walk over the reactor. Okay, but

1118
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:14,360
you wouldn't spend much. You know, there would be no

1119
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,639
reason to spend any time in there, right, So the

1120
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:18,519
only only only place that had you know, it was

1121
01:05:18,639 --> 01:05:21,679
right next to the bulkhead where the reactor was was

1122
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,079
the where you took care of the trash.

1123
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: But as you said, not places that you're sitting there

1124
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,360
for twelve hours a day or something. No, no, So

1125
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,119
when could you see the reactor? Could you see it?

1126
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:35,400
Did it make any noise?

1127
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

1128
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:40,639
Speaker 6: Well, the the noise was made by the uh you know,

1129
01:05:40,719 --> 01:05:45,199
it produced heat and that would turn the turbine generators

1130
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,039
to produce power steam. So you you were always hearing

1131
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:52,559
and you would hear machinery and and stuff in the

1132
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:54,360
uh in the engineering spaces.

1133
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, okay, so was but yeah, so

1134
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,440
you're in an airplane, you're the more amped environment. I

1135
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:08,239
guess are pretty small. I mean, you know, smaller than

1136
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,840
a football field. Yeah, I mean you know, oh yeah, yeah,

1137
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,280
I don't know.

1138
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:18,679
Speaker 3: And you know, maybe the technology for that has changed somewhat,

1139
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,719
so there's you don't need as much shielding because there's

1140
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,760
they figured out a way to shield it.

1141
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,039
Speaker 2: Well. Once again, as some of the people who give

1142
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:29,920
you the atomic hand grenade.

1143
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 8: Badges, like the people in in the X ray department

1144
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,079
of the hospital, but tell you how.

1145
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 6: Much both we carried docimers on our on our belt.

1146
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,159
They were like little black cylinders and they would take

1147
01:06:44,199 --> 01:06:47,480
them apart and see how many, say, if you were

1148
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,840
going to die or not, see.

1149
01:06:48,639 --> 01:06:50,599
Speaker 2: If you have how many rads you took or something.

1150
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,519
Speaker 6: Well miller rim Miller y, uh, you know if you

1151
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:58,360
got five rim and you're dead. So the won't Sometimes

1152
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,440
when you're mess cooking because you the trash stuff, you

1153
01:07:01,519 --> 01:07:04,960
might get as much as I don't know, twenty miliram

1154
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:05,800
or something like that.

1155
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,199
Speaker 2: It's pretty low, okay, pretty yeah, pretty low right? I mean,

1156
01:07:10,199 --> 01:07:12,280
didn't no one ever got sick or any of that stuff.

1157
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 6: No, and no mutations that I know of.

1158
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: So listen now now that you're in the in the

1159
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,960
mess hall on the sub okay, because they just start

1160
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,920
a video the other day how they feed guys on

1161
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,760
the nuclear sub what I've always heard from the Navy

1162
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,480
from if you're on an aircraft carrier or a submarine,

1163
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:35,920
the food is like five star true switchy.

1164
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,159
Speaker 6: I always thought it was great, and I thought they

1165
01:07:38,239 --> 01:07:39,440
had great cooks too.

1166
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: So okay, but they did that on purpose, right to

1167
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,840
kind of keep you guys in the line down there.

1168
01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know they even the mess hall on

1169
01:07:49,519 --> 01:07:52,400
a base that was a big sign that said something

1170
01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:58,480
like these are the best best fed people in the

1171
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,480
military or whatever. I forget how they put it, but

1172
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,960
so you switch. Don't have any complaints at all about

1173
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:04,320
the food?

1174
01:08:04,639 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: Switch?

1175
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,079
Speaker 4: Can I ask a question about the food? I understood that,

1176
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,199
like on the mashed potatoes, they put saltpeter in it.

1177
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 6: There were those rumors when when you're in boot camp

1178
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,800
that they did something, put something in the food.

1179
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,399
Speaker 4: To uh, no, I heard something the guys all together, therefore.

1180
01:08:26,119 --> 01:08:28,199
Speaker 2: I hang on a second, Hang on, let's let's just

1181
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:29,000
explain this.

1182
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 4: You're hanging around, you know what I mean.

1183
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:39,319
Speaker 2: Saltpeter is a well medication. Let's say, is some kind

1184
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:43,680
of a Susan flacurious. It's a spice. It's yeah, let's

1185
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,800
let's call a spice that inhibits. It's it inhibits is

1186
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:49,840
the great word for.

1187
01:08:51,079 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: It inhibits the potential for sex. Yeah, good guy.

1188
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: Deeper than that, It's right, It inhibits your ability to

1189
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:10,279
have sex as the kids. So the conspiracy theory is

1190
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:13,560
really guys in subs really huh? And that way there

1191
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,640
isn't And I'd like running around like a disco.

1192
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 6: It was you know it was none of the subs.

1193
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,960
The rumor was boot camp. Boot these dudes first get

1194
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,119
into boot camp. I don't I think if even if

1195
01:09:28,119 --> 01:09:30,760
that's true, I think things were pretty normal. Uh after

1196
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,359
that A no.

1197
01:09:33,039 --> 01:09:36,039
Speaker 4: I can testify in boot camp, then I'll tell you

1198
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:37,600
things are pretty hot day.

1199
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 2: WHOA hang on, all right, listen, I gotta do this, ready, Susan, Ready,

1200
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:52,439
because I said the magic were a discom.

1201
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 6: You know what they said about sub mariners. One hundred

1202
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,520
men went down to fifty couples came back. Who true?

1203
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:09,800
But that's what they said.

1204
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,119
Speaker 3: Now, all right, switch I have I had a friend

1205
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:16,800
who was a sub mariner in World War Two. He

1206
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:22,960
was a diesel boat guy, and he told me he

1207
01:10:23,399 --> 01:10:27,640
was a really larger than life character and all kinds

1208
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,760
of experiences. But one of the things that he did

1209
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,199
tell me was if they ever came back from a

1210
01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:39,119
patrol with torpedo still in the boat. First of all,

1211
01:10:39,119 --> 01:10:42,119
they considered that to be a failure because the crew

1212
01:10:42,199 --> 01:10:46,680
did because they didn't do sink enough stuff. But if

1213
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,680
they came back and they were getting close to Pearl

1214
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,880
Harbor or wherever they were going to go, there was

1215
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,720
alcohol that was used in the gyros of the torpedoes

1216
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,439
of the day, and they put something that he told

1217
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,760
me was called croton oil in it. And the croton

1218
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:07,399
oil would give you diarrhea, something serious if you broke

1219
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,439
into the torpedo and stole the alcohol to drink it.

1220
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,439
So these guys would take and make a still on

1221
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:21,319
the sub to get the croat and oil out of

1222
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:25,399
the alcohol so they could drink just the alcohol, the

1223
01:11:25,399 --> 01:11:29,279
alcohol instead of the MA and I'd end up with diarrhea.

1224
01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:31,920
But again, you know, he was larger than life, so

1225
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,000
they did this. He said, this was a real thing

1226
01:11:35,039 --> 01:11:37,239
that they did only on the way home, when they

1227
01:11:37,279 --> 01:11:40,000
knew they were not going to fire the remaining whatever

1228
01:11:40,039 --> 01:11:44,560
a few torpedoes, they would drain them of the alcohol. Wow,

1229
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:47,359
and which had the croton oil in it. I don't

1230
01:11:47,359 --> 01:11:48,920
know if it was for the gyros or what it

1231
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,359
was for, but it was pure alcohol. So that's what

1232
01:11:53,399 --> 01:11:55,439
he told me, okay, And I have no reason to

1233
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,920
doubt the man because he won anyway.

1234
01:11:58,039 --> 01:11:59,359
Speaker 2: One anyway, Well, I.

1235
01:11:59,359 --> 01:12:01,239
Speaker 6: Think I tell you I didn't drink anything out of

1236
01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:02,039
our torpedoes.

1237
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,520
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, by the time you were there with the

1238
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,800
new because they probably had something else in there that

1239
01:12:07,359 --> 01:12:09,279
would be fatal.

1240
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,399
Speaker 6: Until they were big green torpedoes and they shoot them

1241
01:12:12,399 --> 01:12:14,720
out and they had like a guide wire that where

1242
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,479
they could actually guide them for a while, and they

1243
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:21,319
actually uh it wasn't a propeller, It was like some

1244
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,880
kind of a fuel jet jet. And then and they

1245
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,760
would use the oxygen in the uh in the water

1246
01:12:28,079 --> 01:12:30,199
to to uh to work.

1247
01:12:30,359 --> 01:12:34,079
Speaker 2: Oh cool, anything about that for a second. And the

1248
01:12:34,119 --> 01:12:38,800
thing about torpedoes too is uh, only because I read

1249
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,880
this is you know, you always see them in the movies.

1250
01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:43,600
They hit the they hit the ship and boom, right,

1251
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,720
but they actually explode under the ship and the pressure

1252
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,039
from under the ship just breaks the ship in the

1253
01:12:50,079 --> 01:12:54,039
half crass. That's the best, you know, Susan, Please, Nick,

1254
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:03,239
I have a guest for you. I guess. Oh it's

1255
01:13:03,319 --> 01:13:04,359
that cat.

1256
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,279
Speaker 8: It's that one that loves your voice. Look at her.

1257
01:13:07,359 --> 01:13:09,239
She's just entrance.

1258
01:13:10,199 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 2: Is that the word for he? Yeah?

1259
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:12,039
Speaker 4: There you go?

1260
01:13:12,079 --> 01:13:15,520
Speaker 2: Look, yeah. I think she wants to come and visit.

1261
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:20,960
She wants to come and see mac Wow.

1262
01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:26,399
Speaker 8: Sacks me up. She loves your voice? Is lowis struder

1263
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:27,960
from the future?

1264
01:13:28,039 --> 01:13:28,199
Speaker 2: Oh?

1265
01:13:28,279 --> 01:13:32,520
Speaker 8: First of all, is Saltpeter really salty?

1266
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 5: I never tried it tell us, tell us, switchy, nothing

1267
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:44,880
like Saltpeter and pepper on your spaghetti, please, Susan save us.

1268
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,319
Speaker 8: Built to fly fifteen miles high at three times the

1269
01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:54,319
speed of sound, the B seventy Valkyrie nuclear armed bomber

1270
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,600
had the potential of being the greatest weapon ever made.

1271
01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:02,920
Nicknamed the Intruder from the Future, it was a huge

1272
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:07,279
aircraft from a fantastic swept wing shape right out of

1273
01:14:07,279 --> 01:14:12,800
a nineteen fifties science fiction movie. The Valkyrie was intended

1274
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,720
to go so fast it would basically ride above its

1275
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,720
own shock wave, just like a surfer rides atop an

1276
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:25,760
ocean wave. However, the plane's architects soon discovered major flaws

1277
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,720
in their initial design, causing numerous delays and massive cost overruns.

1278
01:14:31,159 --> 01:14:35,319
By the time the first Valkyrie flew in nineteen sixty four,

1279
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,399
it was already deemed obsolete.

1280
01:14:40,319 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: Have you seen this thing? Club? See it?

1281
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 4: No?

1282
01:14:45,239 --> 01:14:49,079
Speaker 2: All right? So remember the sst remember the supersot again

1283
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,680
where it was like twice the size of that had

1284
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,880
six engines in the back, and it looked like that, okay.

1285
01:14:56,399 --> 01:15:00,520
And the idea was that it would be like almost

1286
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,680
like three times the speed of sound to drop a

1287
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,560
bomb in Russia basically what happened.

1288
01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:10,199
Speaker 4: And no, that's interesting, mac because the name Valkyrie is

1289
01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:13,600
a German thing from World War Two. Isn't that where

1290
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,359
Hitler they were going to kill him? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1291
01:15:17,399 --> 01:15:22,000
that Operation Valkyrie, right, so we used it now for weapons.

1292
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 2: Yep, and that was the name of B seventy so.

1293
01:15:26,199 --> 01:15:28,840
But it was like supposed to be so fast and

1294
01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:33,520
the works. Okay, so anyway, they canceled it. But before

1295
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,920
they canceled it, the Russians said, well, we have to

1296
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,520
make a fighter plane that's going to be super you know,

1297
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:46,680
three times supersonic. And they went into this big expensive

1298
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,239
kind of crash thing where they would make the It

1299
01:15:50,279 --> 01:15:53,039
turned out be the Big twenty nine, which could go

1300
01:15:53,319 --> 01:15:55,479
being twenty five I'm sorry, which could go almost three

1301
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,640
times a speed of sound. That's and that's very very fast.

1302
01:15:59,359 --> 01:16:01,479
And then the America and so I'm not going to

1303
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,319
do it. They may just spend all that money in

1304
01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:07,880
time exactly put that cat. I don't like that. The

1305
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,159
cat's giving me like the dirty eye of a stink

1306
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:15,159
like you. No, that's that's that's right problem real quick

1307
01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:18,239
before you go somewhere. I just looked up saltpeter, and.

1308
01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:23,520
Speaker 3: It says, uh, it's using gunpowder, it's choosing some other stuff.

1309
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,560
It's a chemical, and it says what does it used for?

1310
01:16:27,079 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: And is it true?

1311
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:35,279
Speaker 3: Reduces certain cardinal carnal urges, And then it says the

1312
01:16:35,359 --> 01:16:39,399
term refers to potassium or sodium nitrate has no effect

1313
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,159
on carnal urges. The story that the chemical was put

1314
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:47,319
in a soldier's food to decrease their sex drive is

1315
01:16:47,359 --> 01:16:48,720
a total myth.

1316
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: That's what I just read. So I don't know, I.

1317
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:57,520
Speaker 3: Don't know what your sources, but what happened on the internet,

1318
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:58,520
so it's got to be true.

1319
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, it happens in the sub stays in the sub.

1320
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:03,680
I know that that's a.

1321
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,079
Speaker 4: Sub guy saying that because that was a number one

1322
01:17:07,239 --> 01:17:10,920
ingredient and on the meals and subs they always that

1323
01:17:11,039 --> 01:17:11,359
was there.

1324
01:17:12,359 --> 01:17:16,079
Speaker 3: Well, they said batchulism can be prevented by the us

1325
01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:18,600
of sodium nitrate safe. So maybe they were using it

1326
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,399
for something else and they just figured to beget a

1327
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:22,239
two for for it.

1328
01:17:22,319 --> 01:17:27,279
Speaker 2: You know, watch would be Ben the sub Susan. Next, please, Susan,

1329
01:17:27,359 --> 01:17:29,079
how can you stand this going?

1330
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:35,159
Speaker 8: The next one is holy bat bomb? Cool desperate to

1331
01:17:35,239 --> 01:17:39,319
attack Japan early in World War Two, the US military

1332
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:44,319
came up with a truly batty idea attached tiny time

1333
01:17:44,399 --> 01:17:49,479
bombs to live bats, then release millions of them over Japan.

1334
01:17:50,279 --> 01:17:53,680
The bats would hide in buildings and homes until their

1335
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:59,960
bombs went off, causing widespread fires. Though Fdr himself approved

1336
01:18:00,079 --> 01:18:03,319
the idea, the army abandoned it after a swarm of

1337
01:18:03,359 --> 01:18:07,039
the armed bats was released by accident and burned down

1338
01:18:07,079 --> 01:18:08,840
an air base in New Mexico.

1339
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,520
Speaker 2: Okay, don't.

1340
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 4: The Japanese used to They tried that in the West Coast.

1341
01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:21,279
They would send balloons o they you know, going to

1342
01:18:21,399 --> 01:18:24,880
California and places like that. And they were effective in

1343
01:18:25,159 --> 01:18:28,560
a few instances at the bombs and the fires they

1344
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,039
kept they didn't have to use bats, They just used

1345
01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:32,279
the helium balloons.

1346
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: They kept it secret for a while that how how

1347
01:18:35,319 --> 01:18:37,920
extensive some of the damage was. But they would land.

1348
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:44,119
They had magnesium you know, cross state type thing. When

1349
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:47,239
they would crash, it would automatically catch on fire.

1350
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,239
Speaker 3: And see the thing is they had the prevailing wind

1351
01:18:50,319 --> 01:18:52,640
on their side. The wind is coming that way. Just

1352
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,199
like if you launched it in California, it would come

1353
01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:57,640
to New England or you know, it was halfway across

1354
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:58,680
the country anyway.

1355
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,199
Speaker 2: But they launched more of them than you and then

1356
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:02,840
they then they originally said and that it killed some

1357
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,560
people at Brandan wish we should have launched them in

1358
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,520
China and sent them to Japan, or they let them

1359
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:17,199
burn Japan tout yeah, yeah, so okay, next Susan.

1360
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 8: Or what yep, we've got the other pussy galore. Back

1361
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:28,039
in the nineteen sixties, the CIA spent twenty million trying

1362
01:19:28,079 --> 01:19:34,520
to turn a cat into a spy, with a microphone

1363
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,880
embedded in its ear and an antenna taped along its back.

1364
01:19:39,279 --> 01:19:41,760
The plan was to let the animal loose near the

1365
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,560
Soviet embassy in Washington, where it would hopefully encounter some

1366
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:50,920
Russians and pick up conversations containing useful intelligence. But the

1367
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,760
idea went wrong on its very first try, when, just

1368
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,920
seconds after being released by its CIA handlers, the twenty

1369
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,319
million dollars sp cat was run over by a taxi.

1370
01:20:04,039 --> 01:20:09,199
Speaker 2: Alice, Alice, think well, this okay, thirty million dollars. The

1371
01:20:09,319 --> 01:20:14,279
CIA spends thirty million dollars to make a spy cat

1372
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,399
and releases it in the park, thinking it's going to

1373
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:22,640
go up to some Russians who are having a conversation, yeah,

1374
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,399
or feel bad and take it back to the embassy

1375
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,520
it gets hit by a bus. I mean, I gotta

1376
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,399
think if the CIA is that stupid or was that stupid?

1377
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,479
I gotta think that that was like they spent the

1378
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,920
money elsewhere, you know what I mean? And said, yeah,

1379
01:20:39,039 --> 01:20:41,920
some of the cillion of this cat, if they had

1380
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,079
did a couple of weekends in Vegas or something. Yeah,

1381
01:20:44,119 --> 01:20:46,399
And there's always that kind of stuff. But if they

1382
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,399
spend thirty million dollars and a cat, they get hit

1383
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,359
by a bus on the off chance of all the

1384
01:20:52,359 --> 01:20:56,640
people that would snuggle up to, maybe Russian embassy people

1385
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,960
would be having a I'm gonna say.

1386
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 3: Some kind of conversation that was secret. That's a stretch

1387
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,600
the chance least Susan.

1388
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,520
Speaker 8: The next one. So I have a question. Do you

1389
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:17,720
do you remember the movie?

1390
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 6: Uh?

1391
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 8: It's an old movie where they had didn't they train

1392
01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:30,359
the dolphins to have the warheads.

1393
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:31,239
Speaker 6: Dolphin with George C. Scott Right, There was.

1394
01:21:31,199 --> 01:21:33,199
Speaker 8: A great movie, although it was very sad.

1395
01:21:33,319 --> 01:21:37,079
Speaker 3: But I know somebody worked with the dolphins doing that,

1396
01:21:37,239 --> 01:21:42,640
training them to they put the minds on their heads

1397
01:21:43,119 --> 01:21:46,399
and sent them under ships and bang them on. Yeah,

1398
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,640
the dolphins didn't know what the end result was going

1399
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:49,960
to because they thought they were going to get a

1400
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,880
treat and they did.

1401
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, hear the dolphin just.

1402
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 8: Already. Our next one here is.

1403
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:08,119
Speaker 2: I got it? Can I interrupt you for one second season? Place? Yes,

1404
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,279
there are people in the bar who have been clapping. Uh,

1405
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:15,319
you know for the past couple Ben, it's so club.

1406
01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:16,159
Do you have an update?

1407
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,319
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I was so concentrated on Susan, but

1408
01:22:21,399 --> 01:22:23,920
I'm gonna I'm gonna give you an update right now. Okay,

1409
01:22:25,359 --> 01:22:29,600
it's oh fifth inning, top of the sixth one and

1410
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,520
nothing Yankee still.

1411
01:22:31,399 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: What they clapping? I mean because they got somebody.

1412
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:34,520
Speaker 4: Maybe they're drunk.

1413
01:22:35,039 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: Maybe the Yankees they should not be in here. Yeah, anyway, Susan, please.

1414
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,199
Speaker 8: All right. So the last part I have from Macaloney's

1415
01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:51,319
Taunted Universe is, uh, we're gonna do weird facts about Roswell.

1416
01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:59,119
Speaker 2: We had facts about Roswell. One nothing happened at Roswell.

1417
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:00,800
I said that many times.

1418
01:23:01,279 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 7: Yes, right, please on or About the night of July fourth,

1419
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,840
nineteen forty seven, a disc shaped object was reported streaking

1420
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,239
through the sky above Roswell, New Mexico, then a small

1421
01:23:16,359 --> 01:23:18,720
city in the southeastern part of the state.

1422
01:23:20,399 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 8: A severe thunderstorm was passing through the area at the time,

1423
01:23:24,359 --> 01:23:28,720
and some residents recalled hearing a loud explosion at the

1424
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:36,720
height of the storm, meaning the object exploded in the sky.

1425
01:23:37,039 --> 01:23:44,159
Speaker 2: Okay, number two, that's the first weird thing. Okay, yep.

1426
01:23:45,119 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 8: The next day, a rancher came forward to say he'd

1427
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:54,239
found bits of strange looking wreck wreckage scattered across an

1428
01:23:54,239 --> 01:24:00,520
open field about seventy five miles northwest of roswellge as

1429
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:06,760
shiny metallic material similar to tinfoil and balsa like wooden

1430
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,199
sticks cut in the shape.

1431
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,520
Speaker 2: Of I beams, Crischall, that's the weird thing about it.

1432
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,479
Seventy five miles away from Roswell. You know Rosweld's was

1433
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,039
like this. You know this name that's you know, goes

1434
01:24:19,079 --> 01:24:22,960
off of Uflo infamy. But it's like so far away.

1435
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:28,399
But any found sticks, okay, how many flying sauces that

1436
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,159
have Bossa sticks in them? Please?

1437
01:24:31,079 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 8: She number three. Others who later handled the debris claimed

1438
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:42,279
it postcuse me, possessed incredible properties. The metallic material had

1439
01:24:42,399 --> 01:24:47,119
super strength and the ability to unfold itself. The beams

1440
01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:52,520
were impossible to break or burn. They also had indecipherable

1441
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,760
hieroglyphic hieroglyphics printed on them.

1442
01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so anyway, what really happened right for oswell, let's

1443
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:08,079
say we have fifteen minutes left their Unkllisle is that

1444
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,119
it was a weather balloon and not a weather balloon,

1445
01:25:11,159 --> 01:25:12,920
but it was what you would call a weather balloon.

1446
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:17,560
But it actually was being launched by CIA and the

1447
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:22,000
Air Force where it had a the vice on it

1448
01:25:22,079 --> 01:25:26,439
that would pick up audio signals right. And as now

1449
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,239
I was saying, if you if you release a bloom anywhere,

1450
01:25:29,279 --> 01:25:32,359
it's going to go east, right, because that's where the

1451
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,720
prevailing winds go. And they were going to put this

1452
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,159
They wanted to go fly over the Soviet unions to

1453
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:43,439
see if it picked up sounds of an atomic bomb

1454
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:48,199
going off, and that would be convincing that the Russian

1455
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:51,680
said the atomic bomb. But this thing crash and what

1456
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,560
they made it out of was believing in on general mills.

1457
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,039
The same people who make cheerios were the people of

1458
01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:00,920
judge of launching this thing for some reason. And the

1459
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,680
thing that they found was the material that was made

1460
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,000
for these like helium balloons, and they would put a

1461
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,439
kite on it, you know, to slow it down and whatever.

1462
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,840
And they needed balssal wood, so they used to go

1463
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,600
this is in Los Alamos. They would go to this

1464
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:21,399
local florist shop that used to put displays in their

1465
01:26:21,399 --> 01:26:23,880
window all the time, and they would have leftover balsa

1466
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,760
and it then hieroglyphics on it because it came from

1467
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,640
some foreign country and that's where it came from. That

1468
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:33,560
was like, you know, when it came into the port,

1469
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,640
you'd read that nowhere it came from. And that's all

1470
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,279
that happened in Roswell. One of those things crashed. And

1471
01:26:40,319 --> 01:26:44,279
this whole idea that we shot down in Ufo was

1472
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:48,960
most likely a cover story for the fact that we

1473
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,760
were spying on one of our allies at the time.

1474
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:53,840
Let's be nineteen forty seven.

1475
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:58,119
Speaker 3: Okay, So you're saying the metal was the bag that

1476
01:26:58,159 --> 01:27:02,399
they used for the cereal? Yes fresh, No, No, it

1477
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,840
could be like a silver like when you open a

1478
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,800
box that could be General Mills cereal. Is that silver? Yeah,

1479
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,439
it keeps it fresh, lining to keep you so you

1480
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,680
break that open and get cereal. So that's that, and

1481
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,720
then the boss of wood provided some stability frame.

1482
01:27:19,399 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 2: It was a kite. Yeah, okay, yeah, I can I

1483
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,720
can see that. And who knows why, but General Mills

1484
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:30,760
was responsible for launching these balloons back and back then, okay,

1485
01:27:31,159 --> 01:27:37,640
and and you know and and you know it was

1486
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,960
it was like at the at the at the time

1487
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,399
Kenneth found had seen his flying saucees on like two

1488
01:27:43,399 --> 01:27:47,800
weeks before or whatever the Marie Ion incident. It happened,

1489
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,640
people were seeing flying saucees everywhere all of a sudden

1490
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,720
those two or three weeks, there was like thousands of

1491
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,920
reports of stuff in the air. Okay, the Air Force,

1492
01:27:57,119 --> 01:28:00,760
I think I wanted to say, well, we've we've got one.

1493
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,840
But what they were really doing was it was a balloon.

1494
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,960
We know it, but you really don't want we hushed

1495
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,520
it up. You go.

1496
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,279
Speaker 6: And you know what they said when they launched them.

1497
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,079
They said the best of you.

1498
01:28:12,119 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 2: Each morning they said cheerio and yet and and you

1499
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,359
know and in like I've said this many times before

1500
01:28:21,399 --> 01:28:25,520
I was a kid. I've read every UFO books client

1501
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,479
saus A book in our library, believe me, and magazines

1502
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,199
and everything like that. And you never heard anything about

1503
01:28:32,279 --> 01:28:37,560
Roswell until nineteen eighty in the National Enchoir, a guy

1504
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,920
who wouldn't come on our show and another guy wrote

1505
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,840
this story three pot thing about how this happened in

1506
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,840
Rosmond all of a sudden boom, it's like this big

1507
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:51,039
thing and now it's like a circus down there. I

1508
01:28:51,079 --> 01:28:53,600
mean they have museums and stuff like that. In a

1509
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,239
weird way. I'd like to go there. But the guy

1510
01:28:56,399 --> 01:29:00,960
who found, the guy who actually looked at the wreckage,

1511
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,159
his son was on our show and I forget his name. Man,

1512
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,840
we should know this guy's name, switch you would know it.

1513
01:29:08,159 --> 01:29:11,600
And he was a dentist and he was a kid,

1514
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,239
and he was the kid who he was the guy

1515
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,760
is considered the metal unfolded itself and would.

1516
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 3: Do this or do that?

1517
01:29:18,359 --> 01:29:21,079
Speaker 6: Mac Brazil Yeah right, yeah.

1518
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: His son. Okay, so this kid was a little kid

1519
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,640
when this happened. When he was on our show, he

1520
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,000
was seventy three years old. This is this is a

1521
01:29:29,039 --> 01:29:33,880
great guy. I believe it because you know, he moved

1522
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,640
from Roswell to this place in Utah because he just

1523
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,039
couldn't take it anymore, you know, because they had just

1524
01:29:39,079 --> 01:29:42,119
so inflated what had happened to him that day when

1525
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:45,760
he was seventy three years old, he was called back

1526
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,880
into the service to go to Iraq. Okay, per year

1527
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,199
you got to work in like a medical tent or

1528
01:29:53,239 --> 01:29:56,760
whatever like that, and sa, are you kidding me? Seventy

1529
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,680
three years old and he went over there. He was

1530
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,600
on our show, the greatest guy. He was just like

1531
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,039
a really really good guy who was just having to

1532
01:30:04,079 --> 01:30:06,479
be caught up in this. Then he died about three

1533
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:10,800
months later, really really nice guy. So, uh, you know,

1534
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,760
it's it's it's it's up. The myth takes on so

1535
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,600
much weight that the truth is kin left behind, you know,

1536
01:30:18,239 --> 01:30:21,800
and the National Choir you know back then, who knows,

1537
01:30:22,239 --> 01:30:26,039
but they had they boosted it up, and it's never

1538
01:30:26,079 --> 01:30:29,279
come down. Okay, it must be. They must have just

1539
01:30:29,319 --> 01:30:33,520
tied that up. Anyway, Should we go on, Susan, what's

1540
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,880
the next weird thing? These twenty as these we don't

1541
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:37,840
need them?

1542
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 8: Uh So Number four is the military was alerted to

1543
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,840
the Ranches discovery. The wreckage was collected and taken to

1544
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:49,640
nearby Roswell Army Airfield, where the Basis Intelligence officers examined it.

1545
01:30:50,279 --> 01:30:54,119
On July eighth, the Basis Public Affairs Officer issued A

1546
01:30:54,199 --> 01:30:58,159
startling press release declaring the wreckage had come from a

1547
01:30:58,199 --> 01:31:02,279
flying saucer made headlines across the country.

1548
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 2: So back then there was the media was not like

1549
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,840
it is, not like instantaneous. You know, it took a

1550
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,840
while for the story to krawl back and forth anything

1551
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,159
like that. And then you know, they came up like

1552
01:31:16,199 --> 01:31:19,319
two days later and said, well, you know, and then

1553
01:31:19,399 --> 01:31:22,800
and then it n when went away went away. You know,

1554
01:31:23,359 --> 01:31:25,760
it didn't have like the pulse that it would have

1555
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,720
like these days. One more maybe and.

1556
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,520
Speaker 8: Then we're yep, we got number five, which is in

1557
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,479
July nineteen forty seven, people from every state of New

1558
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:40,960
Union were reporting flying saucers, a term we know was

1559
01:31:41,079 --> 01:31:46,000
coined just weeks earlier by pilot Kenneth Arnold after he'd

1560
01:31:46,039 --> 01:31:49,920
spotted a group of saucer shaped objects passing over the

1561
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:54,880
Cascade Mountains in Washington State. With the military's announcement in Roswell,

1562
01:31:55,199 --> 01:31:58,319
it seemed as if the flying saucer mystery was about

1563
01:31:58,399 --> 01:31:59,239
to be solved.

1564
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they come out and said they had one,

1565
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,319
and then boom, yeah, a few days later they said, well,

1566
01:32:05,399 --> 01:32:08,159
not really, we should do switch at some point to

1567
01:32:08,199 --> 01:32:10,359
a not a show, but a big segment in the

1568
01:32:10,399 --> 01:32:13,279
Mari Island incident. We haven't done that in a while.

1569
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,520
That is the most effed up thing in the world.

1570
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,119
You know, if it's even half true.

1571
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:24,520
Speaker 6: It is really effed up. It's uh uh, it's got

1572
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:28,680
to be a hoax. Uh. People died, Innocent people died

1573
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:32,640
because of it. Yeah, brag. Chrisman was at the center.

1574
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:37,399
But I believe uh Ray Palmer, the the the author,

1575
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,800
the editor of Amazing Stories and the promoter of the

1576
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,760
Shaver mystery was involved. And Kevin Keel called him the

1577
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,720
man that invented UFOs because he kind of kept the

1578
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:50,560
UFO mystery alive in the early years he co co

1579
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:55,279
founded Fate magazine. Yes, yeah, it was. And also, uh,

1580
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,359
I mean Kenneth Artold got involved in it, the man

1581
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:02,079
that saw the kind of start the modern wave of UFOs.

1582
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,640
There was almost like an alleged Man in Black encounter.

1583
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,399
It was probably fabricated, but nonetheless it's one of these

1584
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,880
things that helped us set off the Man in Black.

1585
01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:16,960
Call it folklore or history, you know, it's just a huge,

1586
01:33:17,399 --> 01:33:18,640
huge can of words.

1587
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:22,159
Speaker 2: It was a conspiracy, a lot of people involved and

1588
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:24,359
a lot of you know, weird things happened in the

1589
01:33:24,399 --> 01:33:27,560
middle of it, like, for instance, the guy, we should

1590
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,560
just do a segment on it. But the guy who

1591
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,840
the FBI agent, the head FBI agent in Seattle or

1592
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:39,239
close where it happened, wrote to J. Hoover and said,

1593
01:33:39,359 --> 01:33:41,800
this really happened. You know. They found that years later.

1594
01:33:42,399 --> 01:33:45,840
But this guy Fred Crisman, who was at the middle

1595
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,960
of this kind of UFO citing whatever that went on

1596
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,239
on non years later, he gets called before the JFK

1597
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:56,840
Assassination Committee, right, you know, to testify about what happened

1598
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,640
November twenty twenty second, right in nineteen sixty three. That

1599
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,800
what you know, what's the connection? You know what I mean,

1600
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,800
what could possibly be the connection there? But anyway, that's

1601
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,239
another show. So thank you Susan. We're going to clap

1602
01:34:11,279 --> 01:34:18,920
for you because we love you. Listen, so welcome Lele.

1603
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,680
We probably have about fifteen minutes left. I would say, okay,

1604
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,439
so instead of taking a break, when we talk about

1605
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:32,159
the lay lines really quick and then we'll bring the

1606
01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:37,000
ship into the station, right, I think, because someone orders

1607
01:34:37,079 --> 01:34:38,760
the other day and said, you know, you guys talk

1608
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,279
about lay lines. Been nothing you know in a long

1609
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,319
you know, so we would talk about them tonight a

1610
01:34:44,359 --> 01:34:47,960
little bit. So lay line basically, And when I think

1611
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,800
of lay lines, I think of Britain, United Kingdom and

1612
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:58,159
the whole island. And if you believe some people, and

1613
01:34:58,279 --> 01:34:59,560
there's a lot of people who have done a lot

1614
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,800
of research this books and so on, there are these

1615
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:07,720
lines of these roads in England that seem to point

1616
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:12,680
from one let's say, interesting place, to another to another

1617
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:16,079
to another along kind of straight line. I'll give you

1618
01:35:16,119 --> 01:35:21,319
the example. So wherever Stonehenges and Great Britain, let's say

1619
01:35:21,319 --> 01:35:24,760
that's the starting point, it'd be a straight line to

1620
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,760
the foul Ch Triangle, where more UFOs are seen than

1621
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:30,239
any of the place in the earth, a straight line.

1622
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:36,680
But other interesting places would be along that line, you know,

1623
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:41,600
some kind of other kind of stone structure, whatever, there's

1624
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:47,439
some kind of haunted place. Who knows. So it could

1625
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,560
be one of two things. In my mind. Number one,

1626
01:35:51,159 --> 01:35:53,319
what people will say is that all these things were

1627
01:35:53,359 --> 01:35:56,039
create Now this is back like five thousand years ago,

1628
01:35:56,239 --> 01:35:59,359
and this is what the Romans got there. These are

1629
01:35:59,399 --> 01:36:03,079
prehistor people who lived in Great Britain at the time.

1630
01:36:03,199 --> 01:36:05,760
And if you want to believe some people, is that

1631
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:10,039
this was like a weird highway, a paranormal highway that

1632
01:36:10,319 --> 01:36:12,439
odd things would happen if you and if you look

1633
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,279
at the map, it looks like almost like a highway system,

1634
01:36:15,359 --> 01:36:20,840
but all straight line. So it's either one way. Back then,

1635
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,159
these people knew stuff about stuff that we have no

1636
01:36:23,279 --> 01:36:27,520
idea about. One number two. It's just a coincidence. As

1637
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,560
we were talking about here. Now, you know, you can

1638
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,560
throw a straight line from here to there in anywhere.

1639
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,079
You can throw a straight line from the north pole

1640
01:36:36,159 --> 01:36:41,000
of Paris and it'd be a straight line. But the

1641
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,439
weird thing is is that things happen that things also

1642
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:48,399
popped up along and close line, right, you know.

1643
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 3: I've did some reading on it today and some of

1644
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:57,159
some of the early stuff they say is basically a

1645
01:36:57,199 --> 01:37:02,840
straight line between two known areas. Back in ancient times

1646
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,000
they were going through the woods. They weren't there were

1647
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,479
no roads, the Romans paths paths, there were no Romans

1648
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,640
to build the roads yet. So these people just went

1649
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,520
the straightest way they could through the woods and cut

1650
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,760
a path through the woods, and they tried to explain

1651
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,520
it that way, you know. And then you get other

1652
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:24,399
people that say things like, you know, their energy lines

1653
01:37:25,399 --> 01:37:28,399
or there it's a it's a grid, yeah, grid, or

1654
01:37:28,399 --> 01:37:34,640
it's the ufoh, you know, navigational tool. But the straight line,

1655
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,119
you know, they like I said, when you go back,

1656
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:43,600
it's the shortest distance between two known things. And other

1657
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,800
things would pop up along it because people would be

1658
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,239
going by there and maybe stopping there and spending time

1659
01:37:50,319 --> 01:37:53,960
and just using that road right. And then the Romans

1660
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,600
showed up and said, you know you already cut through

1661
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,279
all the dense jungle. He made the heaviest you know,

1662
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,239
if you did, they work, well, we'll put down stones

1663
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:06,560
and make a real road out of it. So you know,

1664
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:11,520
there's the power thing. You know, there's all kinds of conjecture,

1665
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:13,560
and there's all kinds of books like Steve has said,

1666
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:16,159
like he's going to come up with right now.

1667
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 6: Well, the guy that kind of started this in nineteen

1668
01:38:22,039 --> 01:38:27,000
twenty one was Alfred Watkins from Hertfordshire. He was a

1669
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:30,039
businessman and he noticed that if you look along the

1670
01:38:30,039 --> 01:38:32,920
English country side, like Mack was talking about, you would

1671
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:41,279
see things like churches, ancient mounds, stone circles, barrows which

1672
01:38:41,279 --> 01:38:45,000
were burial mounds. And he thought they were just mainly

1673
01:38:45,039 --> 01:38:47,680
there wasn't anything mystical about him, but later on he

1674
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,760
thought maybe there was some kind of religious significance. He

1675
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,960
died in thirty five and this was kind of lost.

1676
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,039
Then the couple of people kind of resurrected it. John Mitchell,

1677
01:38:57,319 --> 01:39:02,159
who wrote The Flying Saucer Vision uh heuh he talked

1678
01:39:02,199 --> 01:39:06,840
about the uh uh dragon tracks, well that the Chinese

1679
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:13,039
uh he quotes mystical science of fung shui involves dragon tracks. Well,

1680
01:39:13,079 --> 01:39:16,880
dragon tracks kind of parallel lay lines, because there were

1681
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,560
these important sites along the dragon tracks.

1682
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 2: Right, it wasn't just the UK. It was in a

1683
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,880
lot of different places, but you can't hit a lot

1684
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:26,119
of them.

1685
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 6: And then Tom Lethbridge, who was the famous dowser pendulum

1686
01:39:33,039 --> 01:39:37,319
dowser that is really really interesting. He wrote the book

1687
01:39:37,359 --> 01:39:39,840
called the Legends of the Sons of God. Now this

1688
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:44,239
kind of paralleled uh. Eric von Dannigan, they didn't really

1689
01:39:44,279 --> 01:39:47,039
know each other and they didn't didn't cross paths or anything,

1690
01:39:47,359 --> 01:39:50,479
but he was talking about, you know, connecting this possibility

1691
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:56,640
to to ancient visits from aliens. But he thought that

1692
01:39:57,119 --> 01:40:01,880
the Lethbridge thought that these still sites along these these

1693
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:08,000
lines or whatever, uh could be uh charged by ritual dancing.

1694
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:10,920
And you know there's a lot of the ritual dancing

1695
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:14,920
that has been associated with these different monuments, but he

1696
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,439
believed that there were actually power centers and perhaps it

1697
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:20,720
even gets a little bit into the alien stuff again,

1698
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,560
that perhaps these were vecans for or extraterrestrials.

1699
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 2: Yes, did you say dancing.

1700
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:34,079
Speaker 6: Yes, they were a ritual ritual dancing. He hypothesized that okay, okay,

1701
01:40:35,279 --> 01:40:38,079
she wouldn't have any any ritual amounts that they're even

1702
01:40:38,119 --> 01:40:49,239
to charge operating and and and then then Ted Holliday

1703
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,479
who's the guy that investigated lock Ness, and became to

1704
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,920
believe that lock Ness was not a policeosaur, then perhaps

1705
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:59,640
a mollusk, and then thought maybe there was something more

1706
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,600
like uh, you know, he was influenced by John Keel,

1707
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,840
He was influenced by Carl Jung. He thought this might

1708
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,880
be some kind of a projection or whatever. But he

1709
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:12,479
was studying Bronze Age archaeology and that's what brought him

1710
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,600
to the idea of lay lines as well. So these

1711
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,920
a couple of men kind of resurrected this a little bit.

1712
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but but but but I mean,

1713
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,800
you know, with anything, it's like, you know, it tastes

1714
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:32,359
on this, you know, my grand importance or they put

1715
01:41:32,399 --> 01:41:35,359
a lot of these you know that it's aliens put

1716
01:41:35,399 --> 01:41:38,560
them down there, and that's charge of the rocks and stuff.

1717
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,640
But it's just like odd, I think all might have

1718
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,880
like hit on it is that you know, you back

1719
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:50,920
then they were barely pass they were barely Yeah, maybe

1720
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,039
you get a wagon. They have wagons back then. This

1721
01:41:53,079 --> 01:41:55,960
is like five thousand years. It's like when the pyramids

1722
01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:00,119
were built. Okay, but you would take the straightest you know,

1723
01:42:00,279 --> 01:42:04,960
from wait, from here to there, so obviously that'd be

1724
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,560
the road that everyone takes, is really what it is.

1725
01:42:08,119 --> 01:42:11,119
And so when these like weird things happen along the

1726
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:13,039
road that everyone takes and not just out in the

1727
01:42:13,039 --> 01:42:15,079
middle of nowhere, which.

1728
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:23,359
Speaker 6: Well he even Amy Michelle, who was a colleague of

1729
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,279
Jacques valaid he wrote a book called Flying Saucers in

1730
01:42:26,319 --> 01:42:29,840
the Straight Line Mystery, and he kind of connected some

1731
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:31,640
of this up with Ley lines as well. He thought

1732
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,239
that if you plotted a lot of the sightings on

1733
01:42:34,319 --> 01:42:36,520
a graph, you'd find that these things were showing up

1734
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,119
in straight lines. There's a lot of controversy about that.

1735
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:45,039
And the guy that wrote the Flying Saucer vision that

1736
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:51,520
he wrote the view over Atlantis, and he connected the

1737
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:55,119
beliefs in dragons with UFOs. I mean, people have been

1738
01:42:55,119 --> 01:42:57,720
seeing things in the sky forever. He thought there was

1739
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,520
kind of a parallel there, and he thought that they

1740
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:06,760
were both kind of symbols that were maybe projections of

1741
01:43:07,279 --> 01:43:11,079
human consciousness. So we go down that that uh uh

1742
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:16,119
way again. Even he even hypothesized that this is this

1743
01:43:16,239 --> 01:43:20,840
is Mitchell that uh you know, Saint Patrick driving the

1744
01:43:20,359 --> 01:43:25,520
uh the the serpents out of Ireland. Yes, that was

1745
01:43:26,119 --> 01:43:29,199
that was a symbol of them banishing the ancient religion

1746
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,800
of dragon worship. What's that word?

1747
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:38,239
Speaker 2: Yes, Patrick, Okay, well listen, let's clap the switchy. Yeah,

1748
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:44,039
because he's over tired there he is. Oh look at

1749
01:43:44,039 --> 01:43:48,600
that ball spot. Holy shit. Sorry, So anyway, switchy, thank you,

1750
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,239
and please put up the magic image of.

1751
01:43:53,239 --> 01:43:55,319
Speaker 6: The I want me to put up the bald spot,

1752
01:43:55,359 --> 01:43:56,079
I mean the no.

1753
01:43:56,079 --> 01:44:02,079
Speaker 2: No, Susan, it's time to say goodbye.

1754
01:44:04,359 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 8: I know, it was such a pleasure. Nice to see

1755
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:11,199
all of your beautiful faces.

1756
01:44:11,399 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 2: It's nice to see you because, hey, Susan, how's how's

1757
01:44:14,079 --> 01:44:16,880
Rudy doing. He's all right, he's doing good.

1758
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:20,239
Speaker 8: You know. I went to that three day really four

1759
01:44:20,319 --> 01:44:23,399
day weekend in Ben's called Benson Mule Days.

1760
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:24,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1761
01:44:24,199 --> 01:44:28,079
Speaker 8: Yeah, so it was nice. We rode a lot, but

1762
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,119
Rudy's still having some trailer anxiety, so he kind of

1763
01:44:32,119 --> 01:44:33,039
tore up my trailer.

1764
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 2: Wow. Great, wow. So he likes his new saddle and

1765
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:39,640
bridle and everything.

1766
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 8: He does, and he looks so many people commented and said, oh,

1767
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:47,600
what a pretty horse. And four people use the word majestic,

1768
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,279
so humbled by. He's just such a good boy. He

1769
01:44:52,399 --> 01:44:56,760
really is a beautiful hoss in you know, real life.

1770
01:44:57,359 --> 01:45:00,119
Speaker 4: He doesn't bring him over to the show. Someday I

1771
01:45:00,079 --> 01:45:00,640
would like to.

1772
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,039
Speaker 8: Now, you know, I'm off for them next week. I

1773
01:45:04,079 --> 01:45:05,039
could ride him up.

1774
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:09,279
Speaker 3: There, you know, all right, eh, he is very right

1775
01:45:09,319 --> 01:45:12,439
down right now down ninety three photoshy right.

1776
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1777
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,159
Speaker 2: I knew somebody who lived in Hamilton, Mass. They used to.

1778
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 3: Winter in Florida, and they had horses, and they would

1779
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:32,159
take them by train up to Hamilton, Mass and would

1780
01:45:32,159 --> 01:45:34,560
stop at the Hamilton train station, take the horses out

1781
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,800
of the car and walk them down to the house.

1782
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,319
Speaker 2: That's where all the Swells were all right, lived in

1783
01:45:39,359 --> 01:45:43,960
Hamilton went on. So thank you, Susan. We appreciate Boshington

1784
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:48,720
two to one. Hang on Club, Thank you, clubby Club.

1785
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 4: Thanks, you know, Marcott was a pleasure being here tonight. Okay,

1786
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:54,560
listening to.

1787
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,560
Speaker 2: Really quick, really quick? What's going to happen? Buffalo Pats?

1788
01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:01,520
Speaker 4: Come on, the Buffalo is gonna win. But I think

1789
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,159
the Pats will give them a good game.

1790
01:46:03,279 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah if they if we want yeah yeah, yeah.

1791
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 4: You know, Buffalo superior team.

1792
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 2: I never thought i'd say that, but anyway, Switchy, thank

1793
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:18,159
you Switchy for joining us.

1794
01:46:18,199 --> 01:46:20,119
Speaker 6: Switchy, it was my pleasure.

1795
01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, And what's for breakfast tomorrow or anything good?

1796
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:24,640
Waffles or anything.

1797
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna actually uh drank my carcass out

1798
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:34,000
and uh go uh go to a restaurant a place

1799
01:46:34,039 --> 01:46:37,199
called that club is very familiar with called tutors.

1800
01:46:37,239 --> 01:46:39,239
Speaker 2: Who did listen?

1801
01:46:39,359 --> 01:46:42,159
Speaker 4: Now you say hi to the girls from me? You know,

1802
01:46:42,319 --> 01:46:43,439
well there is.

1803
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,600
Speaker 6: I will we miss them, you know, I can't wait

1804
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:48,680
to see the reaction when I say clubs as high.

1805
01:46:49,039 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 4: Well, I told you that they when they win the

1806
01:46:51,119 --> 01:46:55,319
belly up peace up to your place. Apparently they still

1807
01:46:55,359 --> 01:46:58,880
allow some of that skinty close so they're still in business.

1808
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,520
Speaker 2: But don't forget to want to feed the cats first

1809
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:08,560
the business model. You know, thanks, thank you. Al oh, hey,

1810
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:12,319
glad to be here in the Couch Show. The Couch Show.

1811
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:13,920
I actually.

1812
01:47:15,159 --> 01:47:19,079
Speaker 3: Didn't watch any football this weekend because the wife wasn't home.

1813
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,600
Speaker 2: I didn't have to pages. I was on Netflix watching

1814
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:26,600
all kinds of weird movies. That's that's why I heard

1815
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:30,520
the screen all right, thank you. I want to thank

1816
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,720
everyone for a while listening, and uh just want to

1817
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,600
remind everyone about homeshow troops. Homesround Troops is, however, a

1818
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:42,199
military organization that raises money for our veterans who were

1819
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:47,359
injured in the post nine to eleven at action combat.

1820
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:51,520
That would be the Iraq War and the off Afghan Wa. Wow.

1821
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:54,359
These are people who gave a lot to our country,

1822
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,880
probably missing a limb or whatever. And home stow troops

1823
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:01,079
build some houses that are adapted to their needs. Not

1824
01:48:01,159 --> 01:48:03,600
a lot of stairs, low account of space. You've heard

1825
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,399
us talk about them for years. Please google them and

1826
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,600
see what they were about. Ninety cents on your dollar

1827
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:11,800
is right to our veterans. And what happens is that

1828
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:15,000
they build them these houses, and they give them the keys,

1829
01:48:15,079 --> 01:48:18,359
rip up the mortgages. It's their house forever. They don't

1830
01:48:18,359 --> 01:48:20,600
have to worry about that mortgage payment every month, and

1831
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,079
they can go out and rejoin society once again. These

1832
01:48:23,079 --> 01:48:25,600
are people gave a lot to us. We should give

1833
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:29,760
a lot to them, especially these days where the veterans

1834
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,800
are being I don't know what the word is for it,

1835
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:37,600
but they're not being as on it as they should be. Okay.

1836
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,800
These are people who gave pots of their lives for

1837
01:48:41,079 --> 01:48:44,760
our country for us to do stuff like this, okay,

1838
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,399
And you should not in any way demean them or

1839
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:52,279
take away any benefits or anything from them. You should,

1840
01:48:52,319 --> 01:48:55,159
if anything, you should make it easier for them to

1841
01:48:55,399 --> 01:48:58,479
get benefits. But anyway, please keep an eye on that.

1842
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:01,319
And until you hear us next time, this is back

1843
01:49:01,359 --> 01:49:06,079
from the entire gang saying be safe, be happy, and

1844
01:49:06,199 --> 01:49:07,800
bye bye

