Speaker 1: There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around
the world every month. Most of them can be explained
as natural phenomena, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters, coincidences,
abductions of remote viewing Mothman, dog Man, Bigfoot and the
Space Brothers, mysterious wounds, weeping statues, miracles on high, and
voices beyond the grain. All these things and more are
revealed every week on Mac Maloney's Military X Files. So
in the rest of the game one one Switchy club
Susan Kay and Uncle Lao Brandy X an aged X
as they delve into the ultimate mysteries of time and space.
This is Mac Maloney's Military X Files.
Speaker 2: And now here's Mac Well. Good evening, everyone, Welcome to
Mac Maloney's one of the trucks. I'll show here on
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Great Hamburgers, great steak and Cheese, Sammy and onion rings
to diaphol kind of shoe for you tonight. But first
let me introduce the members of the Boston. Sorry girl,
third week in a row a half. What bad news?
No one one tonight, So that vibe you might have
been feeling it had to be something else taking his place,
though with one one's older democratic is be keeper, getaway driver, producer, engineer.
It's uncle Ale at Kitties fell Alronild the UFO mechanic.
Hey Mac, Hello, everybody. What's what's up? Folks? What's what's
going on? You tell us I'm home alone. That's that's
that's what's going on here. My wife went on vacation,
so I'm home alone, and this is wow. This is
an interesting concept because usually I was the one that
was taking off, you know, when I worked for business, yes,
and she was home. This is the first time I've
been home alone with the cats and she's gone. So
it's kind of interesting. Left to my own for food
and you know, and my own devices. It's not it's
not pretty. Let's just say that, what was all that
screaming I heard coming from your house the other night?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we don't want to get into that
plausible deniability, but I'm able to eat what I want
when I want. It's like this young food piling up.
I'm making clubs, you know, club, I make club look
like he's eating healthy when he's eating all his treats.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's going some far.
Speaker 4: I'll be over.
Speaker 2: It's it's unbelievable. It's it is. Are you eating any
chef boy?
Speaker 3: I haven't gotten to that yet, but it's kind of
but it's it's on it's on the menu. I've had
some ramen soups. And I was at market Basket buying
a couple of subs today and a lot of the
chips got awful lot of beer. Wow, that there's a
I don't know if you guys have seen that beer.
That's uh. I believe it's only available in Massachusetts. Can
I say it's called Massholes? Yeah, Masshole beer, yeah, and
uh and it it's a light beer. I've been buying
up by the twelve pack. And you see the trash
cans up still in my house. They're just full of
beer cans. And it's crazy. I'm glad I asked. So
the cats still alive?
Speaker 2: That cats are doing okay? Don't they know something?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They miss they miss mom because you know, they there's
a certain time of day when they get their treats
and there's you know, and of course I'm I'm all
over the place. I'm up at three in the morning
watching TV and stuff and they don't know what's going on. Wow,
the house is wicked quiet. Yeah, and you know, not
like she's loud. But it's really weird being the only
one there, for she's gone for fourteen days.
Speaker 2: Isn't that place haunted?
Speaker 6: On?
Speaker 2: There must be that, There must be your ghost there
in my house. This house is planned nothing at all. Well,
I'm glad I asked fourteen days ago. I We'll see.
We'll see what I'm like in a couple of another week.
There you go. That's it exactly, Susan. Also with us
down there in my sister's tank top, West Virginia, our
senior international corresponding Switch played Steve wad Switch.
Speaker 6: Great to be here tonight.
Speaker 2: Very busy guy lately, very very busy guy. Yeah, yes,
he's now for some reason, he's looked like Richard dreyfusfus.
What's on your T shirt? Hopefully? Is it some funny.
Speaker 6: It's one of your your favorite TV shows, the Skinwalker
Ranch TV show.
Speaker 2: It's a fictional show. If it is, what is it
really a skin and walking ranch on T shirt. Okay,
oh well, okay, that's enough enough of that, So switchy,
how with thousand things with you?
Speaker 6: Well, I'm pretty tired after a couple of weeks. I'll
be in a few days and I'll be driving to
a few hours to Ohio to do a talk in
a library, sort of a mock Man one on one presentation.
Speaker 2: And you but you had the Big Mothman Festival, over
twenty thousand people attended, and then you.
Speaker 6: Meet thirty plus thousand, and then I went out to
Iowa for the band Deliver the Custody.
Speaker 2: Thirty thousand people. That's you now you're talking there, switch yep, Wow,
that's cool man. And it was three days, right, three days?
Speaker 6: Well, it's it's really two days. But people congregate on
Friday evening, right, kind of get together.
Speaker 2: And when did they stay? I mean, this is it's
you're in kind of the Holli is down there right.
Speaker 6: Well, they actually even the historic Low Hotel is shut
down right now. It was purchased that they're renovating and
it should be ready in about eighteen months and we're
going to completely redo this old historic hotel. They're even
going to have a restaurant on the top from what
I hear.
Speaker 2: So so, but way do people stay?
Speaker 6: I mean, well, there's several chain motels across the river,
okay in Gallipolis, but a lot of people have to
drive a half hour or an hour to find a
place to stay these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, thirty thousand people. That's that's Fenway pot filled
basically if you want to The.
Speaker 6: Town itself was only got about I don't know, five
or six thousand.
Speaker 2: Wow. Huge, So it must be huge for them, you know,
for their dreamer of commerce and for the merchants it is.
Speaker 6: But some people just go and hide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that too, Yeah yeah, I would so switch.
We'll get back hopefully. Did you have an exciting breakfast today?
Speaker 6: It was well, I don't know how exciting it was,
but I needed the food.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, yeah, I understand it. Well, we'll get back
to that. Well, people in suspense okay. Also with us
is our international senior security chief? What is it? World renown? Yeah?
I can't read that, Willie Club w C. How are you?
Speaker 4: Thank you? Susan? Great job. I he just doesn't remember
things like he used to, important things like.
Speaker 2: Hold that back up, Hold that back up? Is it
was that for me a switch. Let me hold the backup.
Come on, let's go, Susan, come on, hold it back up?
What I'm not if I'm starring them? What's that saying?
Speaker 3: World renowned okay international Senior security Agent and two fingers
in the way.
Speaker 4: Agent.
Speaker 6: That's quite a title to.
Speaker 2: What's that about? Anyway? Oh? Advisory advice? Really? All that?
Only a two hour show anyway with all his alcolides,
all his titles, it's Willie Club see unknown location but
in his bunk.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's great to be here tonight. You know, as
you know, there's a lot going on around town here
and Boston. It's not as much going on as they
have down in West Virginia, but you know there's a
lot here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep. Well we should say that the Boston
Red Sox are in the wild kind of playoffs and
the New England Patriots played their best game in five
years maybe on Sunday, And so now everyone as I
whipped up again sports wise in Boston. And when that happens,
like the whole it's like the weather changes, you know,
everyone just is going nuts about two things at once
and so on. So just to give an example, so
we club has a red Sox. What do you call
those things? Kelly logo? Logo on this microphone? And then
where's the you get the Patriots logo kind of floating
on your screen? Is that it I do?
Speaker 4: It's one of the flags?
Speaker 2: Oh well, oh okay, all right. I I they're playing
the Yankees. I would love at this point to see
them do something, but you know it's gonna be very hot.
Speaker 4: Well, I think they'll probably not go any further, but
they'll win at least one game out of the three,
and I'll be happy. At least they're going to make
the playoffs. Whoever thought it is true? And they got
all these injuries. You remember, if this team didn't have
their best hitter in, one of their best pitches out,
and some other injuries, we probably would have no problem
with the Yankees. As you know, all season long, they've
they pretty much rolled the roost over the Yankees, right right, Yeah,
and the Yankees are Oh it's a challenge. So I'm
happy that they just got there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean they have a chance. Yankees are
really pretty bad on defense or whatever. But I'm surprised,
and I'll be the first one to say that. You know,
I doubted them the entire year. I was predicting a
collapse and it didn't happen.
Speaker 4: So well, that's you. You predicted every time.
Speaker 2: I'm just being logical there. Oh okay, speaking of logical.
Also with us is a super fan, a good friend
down there in North Carolina. But she's from this part
of the world. Susan Kaye, the blonde with the coved
I am how are you we?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, what do you think? What do you
think so far?
Speaker 6: I'm thrilled, Susan.
Speaker 2: Do I detect a change of scenery?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: Cats? No, there's no cat thing.
Speaker 8: Behind her in reverse today?
Speaker 6: Oh okay?
Speaker 2: The direction, Oh I thought it was some kind of weird.
Speaker 8: Zoom okay, rese or anything like direction.
Speaker 2: So cats are still there?
Speaker 8: In other words, right, yeah, there's they're sleeping.
Speaker 2: Oh good, okay, good for them. Wow, what a surprise. Cats.
Little later they'll be eating for sure. So I'll tell you.
Let me just pivot back the switch only just to
wake them up a little bit.
Speaker 6: I'm waite awake. I'm good.
Speaker 3: He's preparing something for us, a haircut.
Speaker 2: Does he look like Richard? Drive us a little bit,
just a little.
Speaker 8: He's better looking.
Speaker 6: Going to do some lines from the Monkman prophecies. Yes, okay,
are you ready? He's talking to Allen Base, who's playing
Doctor Leak. Doctor Leak is keels fell backwards and Richard
Gears is towards the at the end of the movie
when he's he's at his wits end about what's going
on in Point Pleasant with the Mothman and all the
bizarre stuff, and he says he looks right at doctor
Leek and says, didn't you need to know? M Leeke says,
we're not allowed to know.
Speaker 4: I gotta go watch that again.
Speaker 6: It's one of the great scenes between between Gear and
Uh and Bates. So when they're supposed to be in Chicago,
of course they're actually in Pittsburgh subbing for Chicago. But
you know, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I have to say, Steve, when when you first
said we were comparing you to Richard Dreyfus, and he
said do you want me to do?
Speaker 4: And listening he thought you were saying yeah, like.
Speaker 3: You said Richard gear rich But then then I heard
Steve say do you want me to do a line?
And I thought he was being funny From from UH
Counters when MA have a supplier well again. You know
when you said that, I was.
Speaker 6: Like, I almost dryfers from Jaws.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead, you're all gonna die. Yeah, can
I tell you he sucks as an actor?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 2: And and now yes he does, Yes, he does. What
what are you stroking there? If I can use that word,
it better be a cat better.
Speaker 6: Well, this marsupial has been coming to my door.
Speaker 2: Get that you can't see what you can't? I can
see it. I can see its ears and he's he's
making weird motions with his hand. Well he does that
a lot anyway. Pay no attention to the man behind
the curtain.
Speaker 6: Here's here's a piece of tail.
Speaker 2: Now, well, thank you switched number one, so switch tell
us about your breakfast today, please, you're talking to someone.
It was two saltines every morning, so.
Speaker 6: I was going to drag my carcass up and go
out to you. I had to even completely uh. I
still have a completely unloaded the car uh with with
stuff so uh, but I just I ate it home.
I had some eggs, sausage legs.
Speaker 2: And bacon and bacon yessae and bacon. Oh yeah, I
read the other day that bacon has the same effect
in dwarphins wise as heroin. See that than it does? Yeah,
and and and that we at accident of rain the
same way.
Speaker 6: I guess sometimes people do score bacon on the street.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, and it said, that's why people
can never stop eating bacon. And it's true, you know
what I mean, Like anyone saying I didn't get enough bacon,
I'm not a real I'm not a real big fan
of it. It's not okay, but wow, I don't really
go out of my weight. I mean, this is like,
let's put it this way. This morning, I could have
gone and had the early birded Angies, which would have
been two eggs, bacon and toast, all right. Instead, I
drove to Duncans and got two glazed donuts in a
medium a medium regular. That was my breakfast. Now you
see what I mean, club, I'm left alone. This is
what happens.
Speaker 4: You have good taste there you go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it could have been worse.
Speaker 6: It could have been Canadian bacon.
Speaker 8: Oh love Canadian bacon.
Speaker 2: Yeah me too.
Speaker 6: It's just ham, is it really?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: It makes tastes like to me.
Speaker 8: The like a syrupy when you when you're brown it
in the pan and it's that.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, yeah, I love that. They used to
be arrested. Used to be a bandana we used to
go to and they would have that and they would
and it was the first time I ever had fourteen poutine?
What is it poutine or something? No? Thank you? No wow?
So that's the Canadian thing. Does everyone know what that is?
Speaker 8: It's is because I used to put gravy on my
French fries all the time at work and then somebody
that was from Canada said, do you know that's I
don't know how to.
Speaker 2: Poutine or something? No thank you.
Speaker 8: I think there's more to it with poutine, like cheese
or something.
Speaker 2: Like cheese curage, gravy on very well done fries and
then they bake it. It's unbelievable. Talk about addicting. I mean,
everything in there that's bad for you is in there,
like in double you know and triple. But they used
to they deserve that, the Canadian bacon and then the
that stuff that I can never eat, grits. Grits it's
like eating sand I mean, where were of you know, but.
Speaker 4: The Canadian bacon. The McDonald's egg mcmuffins always had a
Canadian bacon. They don't talk about it anymore, but that
was what they had as part of the egg McMuffin.
That was the meat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that stuff.
Speaker 6: We had to pay a tariff on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Maybe not that anyway. Poutine is a dish of French
fries and she's kurds topped with a hot brown gravy. Yeah,
I'm sorry, not happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh it's great with ketchup man something about that
whole texture concept.
Speaker 2: It's really delicious and stop offending Canadian fans please. So anyway,
now that I'm extra starving, why don't we do that?
We are Susan. We have a bunch of lists. We
have lists tonight lists. Oh we should say Brandy isn't
here tonight because she's on a I don't want to
call it a pilgrimage sabbatical. Maybe she's going to a
place called Holy Hill, which has been I guess the
scene of some miraculous events, a lot of kind of
religious odd stuff going on there. And also one one
one is on his secret mission. So it's just us tonight,
So we have lists.
Speaker 8: I do have a list.
Speaker 2: Yes, why don't we just go right to it absolutely so.
Speaker 8: My list is from my favorite book, mc maloney's Haunted Universe,
on sale everywhere, thank you, and the first one on
my list is the Ethereal Passengers. On December twenty ninth,
nineteen seventy two, Eastern Airlines Flight four oh one crashed
into the Florida Everglades while trying to land at Miami
International Airport. The accident killed one hundred and one people,
including the pilot and the flight engineer. The doomed plane
was a three engine L one one one TriStar wide body,
a fairly new design. After the crash, the ghosts of
the pilot and engineer were reportedly seen on more than
twenty occasions aboard other Eastern Airlines flights. Witnesses included people
who had known both men, as well as others who
identified them from photographs later on. The ghosts, who appeared
as being wholly lifelike, were most frequently seen aboard other
Trystars that had been fitted with parts salvaged from the
Flight four oh one crash. Although Eastern's management later called
the ghost story's garbage, all parts taken from Flight four
oh one were eventually removed from other Eastern aircraft Okay.
Speaker 2: Now let's think about this. Eastern is no longer their
own business. They were not a business. So you have
this crash and I remember it, it was a big,
big story back then, and all these people got killed.
Eastern Airlines salvages pots from the crash plane, puts them
on other planes, and on those planes the ghosts of
the pilot and the flight engineer a scene. Now think
about that for a second. First of all, I can't
believe any kind of a company would do something like that.
But second of all, look at that. That's almost like
that's not even a dotted line, that's a straight line.
You know, why would something like that happen? And our
old friend Coco told me once that what they really,
what they did was all the people because I think
that that flight originated either out I think it originated
out of New York. But a lot of the pilots
knew each other. So they had this kind of secret
meeting of all the Eastern Airlines pilots and they had
like a seance, they had, you know, they burned stuff
just to get rid of these ghosts, and apparently it happened.
But how odd is that? How odd is that that that.
Speaker 4: You know, Mac, I have a theory on that. You
know that when they had that accident, of course they splatted,
the DNA was probably all over that plane, you know,
so you know, pieces of DNA are still in those
pots that were later added to the planes. I think
DNA could have something to do with it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, if they were using the control sticks off,
they're using anything in the cockpit, reusing them. But don't
you think it's morbid and even I mean moved in
a way that you would recycle pots from from an
airplane that of yours that crashed.
Speaker 4: No, not if it didn't cause the crash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it was, I mean did the passengers.
Speaker 8: Now I wouldn't want to get on that plane if
I was.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they advertise it. No, Yeah, you know, I wonder.
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, if that plane crashed into
the Everglades, that's salt water is brackish at least. I mean,
once you hit anything in salt water, a salt ish water,
pretty much it's done right, you know. I mean I
can't believe, you know, for them to pull parts out
of an airplane and reuse them, that was pretty nervy.
I would think most of that stuff.
Speaker 2: It's really cheap, cheap, you know, do you really want
to fly in an airline like that? And the way
I think is Frank Bowman, who was one of the
first men around the moon, was the president of Eastern
Airlines when that happened. I'm sure it was kind of
like a you know, uh, what do you call that
a position? He wasn't really an airline guy, but he
was a famous guy. He was he was the face. Yeah,
he was a good fake. He was a trustworthy face.
But you know.
Speaker 3: Those those when that plane crashed, they you know, there
was I heard jet fuel everywhere in the Everglades, which
made kind of an ecological disaster. But they said the
alligators came in and finished off whatever. Yeah, you know,
whatever was the people that were there, whatever parts of them.
So I don't know how much of the people they
actually got out of there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, standing was they got They got there
so quick that they got most of them out of there. Okay,
rescue teams, yeah, they had it all out of the
same day, the people. But you're right, I'm sure the
alligators had a feast on something that got thrown away,
you know, out the window or something on.
Speaker 2: But yeah, imagine what.
Speaker 3: Wow, they thought every topic they thought it was a buffet,
you know, like the crazy of Eastern Airlines. Yeah, and
they were saying, you know, they say, the airline food's
not good. But all right, yeah, alligator human cool. So anyway, okay,
let's move on, sirs.
Speaker 8: Okay, So my second title is the Ghost Plane of
nineteen thirty three. One of New York State's oldest unsolved
mysteries is the Ghost Plane of nineteen thirty three. On
the afternoon of December twenty sixth, during a brutal snowstorm,
every airfield in the Greater New York City area was
asked to turn on its landing lights in hopes that
an airplane heard circling the city might be able to land.
Attempts to contact the plane by radio had failed. No
one knew who was flying it or where it had
come from. Workers in Manhattan skyscrapers were the first to
hear the planes drone. By nightfall, the NYPD was fielding
numerous calls from people seeing an airplane flying dangerously close
to the ground as if looking for a place to land.
But then the ghost airplane simply disappeared. It did not
land at any airport in the area. No crashes were reported,
nor were any airplanes or pilots ever reported missing.
Speaker 2: So this is kind of strange. So in nineteen thirty three,
they did have skyscrapers in Manhattan, so in the Empire
State Building being one of them, and they did have
a lot of you know, airline activity down there because
that was you know, such a major, you know, hub
of things going on. So these people in the snowstorms
see this airplane just almost like trying to desperately land somewhere,
and they hear it and they see it, and this
thing is like flying almost like down Fifth Avenue, and
people in the skyscrapers are looking down on it. That's
how low this thing is. Fine, and so everyone, as
they say, all the airports were to all turned on
your lights, be on the lookout for this thing. But
it never lands. No one ever reports it landing, no
one ever reports it crashing. There's no plane crash, there's
no nothing, No one is reported missing, no planes are
reported missing. So what was it? So many people saw it?
You know, sorry, I mean this thing is doing then
literally flying down the middle of New York City. So
how can something like that happen. You know, how strange
is that?
Speaker 8: And then the sound just stops right and just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, and where to go?
Speaker 8: Oh time?
Speaker 2: So yeah, like an odd thing that a lot of
people witnessed and like was never explained. Okay, kind of
like this show anyway. At next, please Susan.
Speaker 8: Our next one is called the thunder Screech. Back in
nineteen fifty five, the US Air Force came up with
an odd idea use a jet engine to spin a propeller.
Airplane designers went to work and created the x F
eighty four thunder Screech Fighter, so called due to the
ungodly noise it made whenever it took flight because the
propeller spun faster than the speed of sound. It was
by far the loudest plane ever built, with its engine
herd starting up from twenty five miles away. However, the
sonic waves the aircraft gave off were so powerful that
they blew out ear drums, caused nausea and vomiting, and
in some cases even provoked epileptic seizures among ground crews.
The thunder Screech project was canceled just later, excuse me,
just a year later.
Speaker 2: First of all, what a name for a plane, the
thunder screench doesn't a propeller lose efficiency once it goes
once it go supersonic? Maybe maybe that's why they said
a lot of the fighter planes the propellers weren't any
bigger because even though they were only going some fifteen
hundred r pm at the hub, by the time you
got out to the end of the diameter of the blades, yep,
they could go super sonic. And then they stopped, they
stopped grabbing air. Yeah, yeah, funnything like that. I don't
know I heard it. I don't know they didn't know
that at this time. But this thing, you know, it's
just one of these things. Back in the fifties especially,
they would like they would Frankenstein airplanes a lot, you know,
and they put this in this this spot on this
spot and stuff like that. But I thought it was interesting.
Number one, you could hear of this thing twenty five
miles away, twenty five miles long. And also that was
like so a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can you see the like the acus, like Pulka
and all over the place. Yeah yeah, yeah, So good
name though, the thunderscreation. Good name for beer.
Speaker 8: What must it have been like to like fly inside
of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, flying it next?
Speaker 8: Li su all right, the next one is the empty cockpit.
One of the oddest ghost plane mysteries ever happened. Sorry,
one of the oddest ghost plane mysteries ever happened. In
March of twenty seventeen, authorities in Marathon, Ontario, Canada, received
a report that a Cessna one two flying out of
Michigan had crashed near the north shore of Lake Superior
shortly before midnight. But when local rescue teams reached the
crash site, they made a startling discovery. Not only was
there no sign of the pilot, there weren't any footprints
in the snow around the crashed plane either. So how
did it get there? And what happened to the person
who was flying it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that with And there's a picture of it
in this book that Susan is referring to, where cessna
is just in the middle of the woods in a
snow bank, but no footprints around it and no one
inside it. So how does that happen? I mean, first
of all, how it wasn't crash. He was just kind
of there and someone had been radio someone obviously had
been flying it, So way do you go if there's
no footprints around? When they got there, it was just
a plane sitting in this kind of clearing in the
middle of the forest. How's that happen?
Speaker 3: Maybe he did a get out before he bailed somewhere
like over water, snowed again after he got out, after
he got footprints.
Speaker 2: Well maybe you know. I mean, it took them a
while to find it and get there for sure, But
who knows Our next usable The.
Speaker 8: Next is called the swing wing ghosts. The US built
f B one one one Ardvark was the first operational
military swing wing aircraft. It was designed as a fighter bomber,
and its pilots could adjust their wings forward for landings,
midway back for normal flight, or flared all the way
back for supersonic flight. A technological marvel for its time,
the FB one one one also employed an extremely advanced
flight control system that allowed its pilots to fly very
low in order to evade enemy radar. Used mostly in
Vietnam as a special mission aircraft, and FB one to
eleven took off from Udorn Air Force Base in northern
Thailand one night for a sortie over communist North Vietnam
by all accounts, the plane accomplished its mission, but was
hit by enemy ground fire on its return flight. All
communications with the plane ceased and it was given up
as lost, one of several hundred American warplanes shot down
during the war. Yet just around the time it was
due back at Udorn, the plane appeared on the basi's
radar screens. Astonished ground personnel watched as it landed and
taxied over to its hangar, but on opening its canopy,
the air mechanics found both pilots were dead, killed by
shrapnel from an anti aircraft burst. The plane's sophisticated flight
controls undamaged in the explosion, kept the aircraft flying and
brought it to pilots home.
Speaker 2: Wow, a lot of shows. Yeah, this is the sixties
technology do in this too. I remember those planes. I
mean they were you know, like halfway between a fighter
and a bomber. You know, there were sizeable planes when
they built them. I member there was some kind of
controversy Kennedy was involved or whatever. So, but they have
this plane that has this radar in it where they'd
be able to set like one hundred and fifty feet okay,
and then turn it over to you know, like the autopilot,
and no matter what, the plane would stay at one fifty,
go over a mountain, it would still be at one fifty,
you know, like that real terrain guidance type stuff, you know.
And they handle a lot of the some of the
stuff that were in the moon landings, that kind of
similar technology, you know. But the thing just they would
put in a flight plan in the computer and they
would follow it, follow it no matter what, you know.
And and we and we're struggling to get shelf driving cars. Yeah, yeah,
this is something that they have airplanes that will land
themselves with. That story was actually told to me by
someone who was based there at the time. And you
doing Thailand during the wall, So yeah, let's have a
creepy story next Leson.
Speaker 8: Alrighty, the next one is the right Stuff Ghost. Shortly
before eight am on June thirteenth of nineteen ninety three,
a bright red Formula one speed racer airplane appeared over
the John Wayne Airport in Orange County, California. A small
plane with a huge engine, it made so much of
a racket that it tripped the airport's noise monitoring systems
in place because the Wayne airport, being close to so
many residents, is boasts one of the strictest airport noise
abatement programs in the country. As the midget racer began
to fly various acrobatic maneuvers above the airport, enough people
saw it to down the ID number emblazoned on its fuselage.
Then they watched as the plane later confirmed as the
FAA registered N twenty one X, slowly climbed and disappeared
over the Pacific. Working with witnesses information, airport officials sent
a noise violation notice to the plane's owner, who just
happened to be Deeke Slayton, one of NASA's original seven
Mercury astronauts and commander of the famous nineteen seventy five
Apollo sy Soyuz space mission. What the airport officials didn't
know was that Slayton had passed away five years before,
dying at his home in Houston, fifteen hundred miles from
Orange County, with his wife and daughter at his bedside,
and his airplane was locked away in a hangar in Spock's, Nevada,
whose owner later testified that it had not been flown
or even taken from a Tanger. Since Slayton gave it
to him a few years before, no one has ever
been able to explain the bizarre incident.
Speaker 2: Don't think it's down man. How weird is that? You
have all these people, they see this plane. They kind
of know because he used to fly out of there.
Apparently a lot took down his number. He's doing acrobatic
things that he used to do. But the guy, but
he was, he was he was dead. I mean, how
maybe it's that guy that dive bombs the island all
the time. Yeah, yeah, maybe a little too local, a
little too inside. But I mean, how does stuff like
that happen? I'm going to say the club, because the
club has a that he's watching the he's watching the
red size scheming as a look of wonder in his face.
Speaker 4: No, you know, every whenever Susan does a presentation, it
always gets my attention because she does such a great job.
But I'm glad that you noticed that it looked like
I was distracted. But I'd like to take everything in.
I'm like a yes, and all of the things that
she mentioned really got my attention. As you know, I
have also, I have that book, that book before, so
I've heard this all before, but but Susan did an
excellent job presenting it. And I am not watching the
game because I don't have a TV in this room.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, but I do have.
Speaker 4: I can tell you it's nothing or nothing in the
second inning.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, I'll tell you what. We're going to clap
to Susan now and on that kind of weird now
and but we'll be back. We're going to be back.
Let's take a little break here, Okay, all right, so
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Great Seafood, Great Hamburg. Is any great steak? And she's me.
We're in the middle of a very interesting show, both
on the air and off the air. But living quickly,
let me introduce the members of the Polastic Girls. No
One one tonight, but Uncle Ale's here. Are you sure?
What are your speechless?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure you were done yet. I went, yeah,
I didn't know if you were engineer, get away driver
or be killing you know at whatever.
Speaker 2: You want a temporary bachelor? Yeah, yeah, right two weeks.
Two weeks. You're going to be on two weeks? Should
I have lower send food over?
Speaker 3: No? No, please don't, because I'm I've got more food
than you need. I got plenty. And you know, I
was going to go and get Chinese last night and
I had to go to uttle car show next town over.
So I figured I killed two birds at one stone
and drive over, parked the car for a while, you know,
meet a few friends, and then from there I call
a Chinese place and then pick it up on the
way home. We have family. Is a China one the
one in Salisbury Center? Good Fortune?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: That one all good Fortune? Yeah? Go ahead. They're closed
on Mondays? Who closes? And I'm like, what are you serious?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: I can't even get the Chinese food. I have to
get down a family restaurant. The dude on the one, yeah,
I can't. I can't eat there. Why I get I
have food allergies to them. I ate there once I
almost died. Okay, part of the very very weird food
energies I have. I ate there once a number of
years ago and on never going to try it again.
All right, cool, But I did stop at the butchery
on the way home. Gotta container of chicken salad and
some buns, a bag of chips, wow huh, and a
an eighteen pack of beer and an eighteen pack. I
don't want to go back. I don't want to go
a couple of days. It's yeah, so it was supper.
It's a problem. I mean people, you know, I don't
realize it, but it's a problem getting going back and
forth off the island, right, it is. It's a pain.
And if you.
Speaker 8: Continue to live on an exclusive island.
Speaker 3: Right it's like there's only one liquor store on the island.
One like a two bars and the liquor store. I
think everything on the island charges stupid money.
Speaker 2: But but but what bothers me too convenience. I mean,
it's not an exclusive place. It's it's a barrier island
for you know, for the most part. But that drive,
the drive to leave is like two miles through the marshes,
right right right down the turnpike, and you get some
delude doing the friggin speed limit, which is like twenty
five miles an hour or something. It's like ten minutes.
You want to kill him, you want to kill them.
It's that's my daily frustration. But actually a couple of
years ago, I I had put a new exhaust on
my motorcycle and I I was talking to Mack about it.
We did this, and he's like, yeah, well, he goes,
I'll be on my deck and you you drive off
the island and I'll see how far I can hear you.
First of all, put you put illegal Australian mufflers on
your what what kind of bike? It's a Honda CBX okay,
so what is that like? It's an eleven hundred okay,
six cylinder Honda motorcycle. Six cylinder motorcycle, folks, So he
is illegal pipes on it. So he said, I went
how far these can be heard? So I said, well, okay,
I'll stand up my deck. You take off, and I'll
and I'll just tell you when I don't hear you anymore.
Think about fifteen minutes later you're driving up around.
Speaker 3: You know, he heard me down shift to take the corner.
I don't know about seven miles off the island. You
heard me take it down two gears before I turned
and got on it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was like, well I heard you hit Ralph Lane
and I was like, well, yeah, that's that's about right.
Speaker 2: That's a long way away anyway. Also with us u
uh is he awake now? Okay? Good?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: Switch ful a Steve one down there and my sister's
underwear West Virginia switchy, No, sister's tank top, tank top.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, yeah, the one hundredth anniversary they changed at
the take tuk from underwear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm at the anniversary. Cool. So so just so
you you had you know, you're kind of you made
your own breakfast today, right, that's what I did right now?
Who eats? First? In you're a little about the cats,
are you?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: You get a cats?
Speaker 2: See? Why why is that though? Tell me?
Speaker 6: Well, because you know you you to change your water
and then you you fill up there. Uh well, well
the first thing you do is purge their uh the
places they have to be purged, okay, and then what.
Speaker 2: You go ahead? Yeah, if it doesn't stop there, it
will never stop. Susan is saying to me, I heard, yes,
I know, but and.
Speaker 6: Then you you change your water, you fill up their
their drive.
Speaker 2: But what happens if you don't? What happens if you
just wake up one morning and you make your little
switch blackface off.
Speaker 6: Big Well, they're they're more interested in my breakfast than
I want them to be.
Speaker 2: Okay, well then I can see you. Okay, I get
that anyway, So anything new with you to switch? I
don't know what else to say. You gotta hear cut,
you know.
Speaker 6: Having back from from preparing for the mock Man Festival,
hanging creatures up in the T and T area, being
the m C, being the tour guide, going back in,
taking down all the critters, and then getting ready to
go to prepare to go to Iowa and then get
to Van Meter, Iowa and then be the EMC there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So so any I don't want to use
the word groupies. Been any fans uh interact with you
during almost.
Speaker 6: Well I've been there many years, so I uh uh
A lot of people know me and I've done the
uh been the MC for several years.
Speaker 2: So okay, Well let me put it there a.
Speaker 6: Few times like I have them Offman Festival and.
Speaker 2: Then put it this way. Any groupies hanging around you
with you your groupies.
Speaker 6: That might be too strong a word, groupies.
Speaker 2: Let's move on. Okay, all right, thank you switch for
your little slice of Yola. Also with us, that's down
there North Carolina. Get that cat is a cat on
his head? Look at that.
Speaker 6: But my earplug went out?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, real plug. Well your reapplies. You went out there.
You know where that tale has been? Dude, you know
what that tale?
Speaker 6: No, that's a hat. It's my ball cap.
Speaker 2: Susan ka down there in North Carolina. Susan, how are
you club?
Speaker 6: He's pouring.
Speaker 8: You skipped club?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm ship, So we're gonna have to really roll. Okay,
hang on, Susan.
Speaker 6: This is lucky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's lucky that I have this just before, gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Let me kind of be wine like Superman goes around
and reverses these rotation. Also with us is our senior
security chief. Can't I remember World Renown? Can you put
that sign back up? Susan?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know all those here? They are senior Security Advisor,
International agent and and advisor. Well the club? See how
you doing?
Speaker 4: Did you see what she had in the end? You
didn't read it?
Speaker 2: I don't know stud did you instead on that? Really? Wow?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't want to embarrass you, Susan,
you know, but you did anyway, So this club, Yes,
how you doing? You know, I'm doing good? You know.
I was listening to you and uh switchy talking about
real important things. You know about why you feed your
cats first in the morning, that stuff, and I relate
a brief story when I was a kid and I
always remembered it. And you probably won't want cats after this.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, get that cat. So that cat there, Wait.
Speaker 6: A minute, club, is the cat going to end up dead?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, he's a happy story for the cat. Be a
sleep of well fed Go ahead, please.
Speaker 4: Well, anyways, I was probably don't know Arou'm ten years
old in the house around the corner. The person he
was elderly. He died and they didn't find him for
about a couple of weeks when they got there. The
cats that had a feast. Oh that's a soft tissue. Yeah,
well that you get. That's why you always feed your
cats in the morning.
Speaker 2: Well that's true, but eventually, but here's the thing, this
is the inevitability of the whole thing. You can feed
your cats early. You know, and then you eat. But
eventually you're just going to drop that and the cats
are going to eat you. And they have no feeling,
they have no sympathy for you.
Speaker 3: You you why should they starve too?
Speaker 4: But anyways, I thought I have to push for that.
Speaker 3: Now that now that my wife is gone for the vacation.
I wake up every morning. I'm I can't sleep to
start with, but when I wake up, the alarm goes
for six o'clock, I'm pretty much already awake, but I
once the cat's hear the alarm go off, I have two.
The two male cats are standing on me and it's
probably forty pounds a cat standing on my chest looking
for breakfast. And I'm like, okay, okay, fine, wow, let
me get up. And I got to get downstairs and
get their breakfast ready, because there's no peace unless you.
Speaker 2: If someone said once, if aliens actually came here and
they saw what went on, they'd say, well, the cats
rule this world. They think they do. They wake them up,
they get fed, they sleep, they eat again. Someone you know,
cleans their little bikes, takes care of them.
Speaker 3: I would rather clean a litter box than follow a
dog around and pick up me, it's a warm dog
poopy in my hand in a plastic bag. That will
never happen. That is not yet. That's one good thing.
But the one point in the cat, you know, on
his favor is you don't have to do that. When
I see people doing that, I said that that's for
human being to do that is a disgrace.
Speaker 4: That's why they have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even then you still got to walk around
and pick pick up after that. Well most people do
though most people.
Speaker 4: Do well in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2: No, and you do it with the bag, but you
shouldn't even have to be put in that position, you know.
I don't know what the what the solution is.
Speaker 4: Don't feed the animal, don't get.
Speaker 3: A dog, don't get a dog, all right, just real quick.
I have I set up and I have a relatively
small house. So where my cat's box is, it's in
a little area with a door, and they have a
little tiny opening they can go in and out. But
I have a bigger door I can open to clean
the box. So that's closed. And when they walk into
that entrance way into their litter box, there's a motion
sensor in there. There's a small night light, there's so
they can see what they're doing. There's a motion sensor,
and there's a a hose that goes down through the
walls and down into my basement to a bathroom fan
that actually takes vents out the backyard.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you can't.
Speaker 3: So every time the cat goes in and uses the box,
the fan kicks on automatically. The smell goes outside for
like five minutes, and then the cat leaves, and then
the smell doesn't come in the house.
Speaker 2: How do you don't patent that? How do you know
how well?
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to be able to tear into
the house and do it does the house, it goes
out the backyard. And you know, actually, I've been out
in the backyard raking in the in the spring and
I'm out there ringing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is that stink?
Speaker 3: And then I look over and I can see the
little dryer event flapping and it's not my dryer, it's
the cat's litter box.
Speaker 2: There's a different smell come from max house.
Speaker 8: The bees died.
Speaker 2: Don't listens. I've introduced every when Susan's everyone's so I
have to say this talk about l'sb's so the other day.
I'm out doing my exercise, let's say, and I come
in the house and I can literally hear a buzzing
in my ears. So I'm going, what is this? You know?
I mean, and I'm looking around, I mean everything buzz
and buzzy. Go in the other room and I put
my hoodie down, and one of your bees because they
had a little a on his is in my hoodie.
How does happen? Right? He was very difficult to get
ready to get get off the property. Yeah, yeah, but
I did you know, I know he'd fly back, but
he was very tenacious, he was crafty, she or whatever. Yeah,
but finally I kind of shoot her out. I just
were taking a fly swatter and whacked her. Oka of them,
you kill forty thousand, I would prefer not to even
kill one. So anyway, Susan, now what do you do?
You have one one list? You did that so well,
we should keep doing it. Jewkaank you let's do that.
Speaker 8: From this amazing book mc maloney's Haunted Universe on cell everywhere.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 8: So. Our next topic is the atomic hand grenade. Cool
dreamed up in the nineteen fifties. The idea was to
build a nuclear bomb the size of a baseball, to
be used on the battlefield against masses of enemy armor.
Such a weapon was to contain super excited elements called
isomers to generate the atomic blast. However, the energy of
just one isomer can equal the equivalent of twenty tons
of explosives, which brings up the question, how could any
soldier throw such a grenade and not likely be killed
by its own blasts.
Speaker 2: Let's think about this.
Speaker 8: It'd have to have a good army, how.
Speaker 2: They say, and the I don't volunteer for anything. This
would be you know, one of the reasons why how
can you why would you even why would they even
get best the first sentence, because you're never going to
get a person to throw the handgun it that's going
to live right. I'm looking at you out well.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would imagine, depending on what you're hiding behind,
you might have some protection from.
Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty twenty tons of dynamite. How do you
gonna go? Well, how do you? I mean?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: All right, so it has the equivalent to twenty tons
of dynamite?
Speaker 3: What is it? What's it made out of? I mean,
if you'd have to be nuclear or something. Yeah, it is.
It's it's a nuke. Okay, well you're dead. Yeah, so
it's a kmicaze. It's it's your you know, it's a
suicide bomb. Wow, it's a bomb of last resort. That's funny.
Like sorry, no, next, Susan, I'll take a rain check
on that.
Speaker 8: The next one is America's suicide pilots. When the Cold
War began, the United States had not yet developed an
aircraft capable of carrying enough fuel to drop a nuclear
bomb on Russia and return home safely. So the Pentagon
took a page right out of Japan's War Tactics Manual
and proposed sending American pilots on one way kamakaji missions
to Russia. Thankfully, in the early nineteen fifties, jet powered
bombers like the B thirty six and the B forty
seven were introduced. These aircraft could fly to Russia, drop
a nuke, stay out of the way of the blast,
which is a bonus, and make it home safely with
fuel to spare.
Speaker 2: Let's say, hey, B thirty six bomber, it's the one
had six engines and two jet engines on it. It's
the biggest thing they ever built, just this enormous nineteen
fifties you know technology, you know what I mean. For
the guys you get from the front to the back.
There's a little train.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they had the cart they laid on and
they rolled their way through the bomb bay and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they to fix the engines. They were had
to constantly oil the engines. They crawl out into the wing.
The wing had like little tunnels and stuff.
Speaker 3: Don't be claustrophobic, yeah, I mean, I mean why at
that point, why didn't they come up with something like
they did with the Doolittle raid, you know, launch them
and then have them crash somewhere out of Russia where
they could be picked up or dump them in the ocean,
having an aircraft carrier or a even a destroyer waiting
for it.
Speaker 2: There'll be a nuclear whaw, So it wouldn't make any
difference real, Yeah, but I mean, you know, you give
the guy a chance, like they run out of planes
that way. The best anything, best movie to answer that question,
Everyone should go. If you haven't seen it, go see
Doctor Strangelove. It explains everything, you know, such a great movie.
But like you know that kind of stuff, you know,
why do stuff when you're gonna blow up the world
glym pickens anyway, Yeah, yeah, is great. Man.
Speaker 8: The planes that I think we talked about them on
another show that for so twenty four hours a day
the US had had a plane in the air.
Speaker 2: Had about probably twenty probably two dozen planes in the year,
twenty four hours a day for maybe twenty years or so.
They were always ready. That's how they screwed. That's how
they spook the Russians. Let's say, okay, because no matter
how much the Russians were made to be the boogeyman,
they were never anywhere even close to what the United
States was is now. But the thing is because the
Russians had to wake up every day saying they were,
you know, two dozen American bombers constantly circling us, and
they're gonna they'll bomb us in ten minutes, right, And
back then that was like really really quick. Weren't they
coming out of Peace Air Force? I don't know they
were fueled at Peace The tank is come out, that's right,
that's right up the street from US, and I'm sure
there would be forty seven's there problem. But this is
this is I mean, this is how we Our defense
was in the fifties. This is your you did it.
You did it on quantity that clonity and the Russians
never hit could could beat it. And then they the
missiles and ICBMs are cheaper and you don't have to
do this. And then the Russians and Americans kind of
got together there would go ub he was, you know,
and they did away with them completely back then when
the wall came down all that kind of stuff. But
meage the money, maybe the money that that costs. Curtis
la May if you know his name, he ran it.
He started it, the just it. But it was good
training for the pilots, let's face it, you know. But wow,
wow what But that's how it's called nuclear peace. I mean,
that's how they kept the mutually assured destruction. We're going
to bond the hell out of you. Why start anything?
And it worked, you know, weird, you know, a nervous way. Susan,
please all right.
Speaker 8: Our next one is the Flying Dorrito. In nineteen eighty three,
US defense contractors McDonnell, Douglas and General Dynamics teamed up
to win a Navy contract to design an all weather
carrier launched self aircraft called the A twelve Avenger two,
But when the project was completed, what the Navy got
instead was a plane with a cool nickname, the Flying
Dorrito for its triangular shape, but also a multi excuse me,
a multitude of flaws, cost overruns, and a history of
colossal mismanagement. The A twelve never got off the drawing
board and was canceled in nineteen ninety one. The cost
to tax payers for a plane that never flew five billion.
Speaker 2: Nice, okay, listen, I have to do an update on that. Okay.
So that happened, and you know, the Navy spent six
billion for nothing, Okay, But since then, what they did
was they took the let's say, the technology that came
from something that failed but you know, not everything and
it fails. They put that together and that is the
the drone that is now on the Predator. Yeah, the
Predator drone, I guess, you know. Yeah, and you look
at it the Reaper drones and stuff, you know, literally
a fine to rito. But so you know, that's the
thing about and is that, you know, you can write
a book about airplanes that have failed and stuff, rockets
that have failed, but they don't always completely failed. They
always take the technology from ten different things and put
it into one plane. You know, for everything they tested
Era fifty one, and that's what they do. There is
test on top secret designs for planes like nine of
them don't work, but they take the technology from those
nine and they put it into ten and you have
like the stealth fighter. You know. So that's how it works. Yeah, funny. Anyway,
next Susabing, All right, Our.
Speaker 8: Next one is because Salmon swim upstream. It was a
dream scenario back in the nineteen fifties design a plane
that was half helicopter half combat fighter. To fulfill the
Navy's desire to have all its vessels, not just aircraft carriers,
carry wall planes. Designed the x FV Salmon. With its
landing gear located in the tail, it could take off vertically,
then turn over to level in mid flight and fly normally.
The revolutionary design would have been perfect except for one
significant flaw. It was just about impossible for the plane
to reverse the process and land well because the pilot
could not see behind him.
Speaker 2: They didn't have a backup camera. Weigh about two tons
back then, you know, once again, they would build these
things in the fifties, there was this kind of vibe
that just let's put anything together, let's see what works
type thing, you know, And and they built all these
like crazy things. They made a flying sas a fighter
once and you know that kind of stuff. They threw
it against the wall and saw what stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
especially back then. And they put all these like kind
of crazy like a nuclear bomber, a bomber that would
fly forever because they had a nuclear reactor in it,
but you would have to you would have to carry
fifty tons of lead, you know, to the shielders of
the pilots don't die in flight. But they would do
these crazy things. So anyway, nice, Lisa's.
Speaker 8: All right. So I hope they paid these pilots that
were the first to fly these aircraft. I hope they
flew paid them. Well, the next one is the nuclear
powered nuclear bomber.
Speaker 2: We go, right, Yes, I just.
Speaker 8: Want to make sure this wasn't one. I already just
said sorry about that. The idea here was to design
an aircraft that could harness the power of an onboard
nuclear reactor and stay in the air for several weeks
without needing to land or refuel. Basically a flying battleship.
There would be three rotating crews, quarters to house them,
a dining hall, lavatories, the works. But there were problems. First,
the more time such a plane was airborne, the more
time the crew would be exposed to its reactors deadly radiation.
It was estimated that twelve tons of lead would be
required just to protect the crew, virtually impossible from an
aerodynamics point of view. Second, the plane would have been
so enormous it would have required a hangar the size
of a football field to house it, and a runway
three miles long for takeoffs and landings. Cool Then there
was the threat of the plane crashing while carrying all
of that nuclear material. Seeing very little upside, the Pentagon
scrapped the idea in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 2: But amazing, amazing that the engineering would have been incredible
to actually have a plumb mat that take off. But
again it was that thinking in the fifties that we
can do anything type thing. We should try anything before
it can.
Speaker 3: Look in a nuclear submarine, they they can shield the
crew from the nuke. I don't think it's twelve tons
of lead in a submarine, or it wouldn't come back up.
They must have figured something out a switch. Yeah, it
was your sub nuclear power of regular power nuclear.
Speaker 6: I don't know if they had any diesel boats going.
Speaker 2: Back then at that time or not, so, so you
know what was it was? It just a place in
the sub that you just did not know wherever the
reactor was wherever?
Speaker 6: Uh well you uh it was what they call the
tdu well trash disposal unit. And when you're mess cooking,
when you're low on the totel pull, you have to
take care of the trash well. The other other side
of the bulkhead is the reactor. So you know, you
weren't supposed to spend a whole lot of time in there, okay.
Uh voice carried docimitters, so we knew how many millirem
we would have gotten. Yeah, but uh so there were
and you would uh it was the what do they
call it the reactor? I forget what it was, but
it was the the place above the reactor. You went
from the forward spaces to the uh apt engineering spaces
and you would actually walk over the reactor. Okay, but
you wouldn't spend much. You know, there would be no
reason to spend any time in there, right, So the
only only only place that had you know, it was
right next to the bulkhead where the reactor was was
the where you took care of the trash.
Speaker 2: But as you said, not places that you're sitting there
for twelve hours a day or something. No, no, So
when could you see the reactor? Could you see it?
Did it make any noise?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 6: Well, the the noise was made by the uh you know,
it produced heat and that would turn the turbine generators
to produce power steam. So you you were always hearing
and you would hear machinery and and stuff in the
uh in the engineering spaces.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, okay, so was but yeah, so
you're in an airplane, you're the more amped environment. I
guess are pretty small. I mean, you know, smaller than
a football field. Yeah, I mean you know, oh yeah, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3: And you know, maybe the technology for that has changed somewhat,
so there's you don't need as much shielding because there's
they figured out a way to shield it.
Speaker 2: Well. Once again, as some of the people who give
you the atomic hand grenade.
Speaker 8: Badges, like the people in in the X ray department
of the hospital, but tell you how.
Speaker 6: Much both we carried docimers on our on our belt.
They were like little black cylinders and they would take
them apart and see how many, say, if you were
going to die or not, see.
Speaker 2: If you have how many rads you took or something.
Speaker 6: Well miller rim Miller y, uh, you know if you
got five rim and you're dead. So the won't Sometimes
when you're mess cooking because you the trash stuff, you
might get as much as I don't know, twenty miliram
or something like that.
Speaker 2: It's pretty low, okay, pretty yeah, pretty low right? I mean,
didn't no one ever got sick or any of that stuff.
Speaker 6: No, and no mutations that I know of.
Speaker 2: So listen now now that you're in the in the
mess hall on the sub okay, because they just start
a video the other day how they feed guys on
the nuclear sub what I've always heard from the Navy
from if you're on an aircraft carrier or a submarine,
the food is like five star true switchy.
Speaker 6: I always thought it was great, and I thought they
had great cooks too.
Speaker 2: So okay, but they did that on purpose, right to
kind of keep you guys in the line down there.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know they even the mess hall on
a base that was a big sign that said something
like these are the best best fed people in the
military or whatever. I forget how they put it, but
so you switch. Don't have any complaints at all about
the food?
Speaker 2: Switch?
Speaker 4: Can I ask a question about the food? I understood that,
like on the mashed potatoes, they put saltpeter in it.
Speaker 6: There were those rumors when when you're in boot camp
that they did something, put something in the food.
Speaker 4: To uh, no, I heard something the guys all together, therefore.
Speaker 2: I hang on a second, Hang on, let's let's just
explain this.
Speaker 4: You're hanging around, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Saltpeter is a well medication. Let's say, is some kind
of a Susan flacurious. It's a spice. It's yeah, let's
let's call a spice that inhibits. It's it inhibits is
the great word for.
Speaker 3: It inhibits the potential for sex. Yeah, good guy.
Speaker 2: Deeper than that, It's right, It inhibits your ability to
have sex as the kids. So the conspiracy theory is
really guys in subs really huh? And that way there
isn't And I'd like running around like a disco.
Speaker 6: It was you know it was none of the subs.
The rumor was boot camp. Boot these dudes first get
into boot camp. I don't I think if even if
that's true, I think things were pretty normal. Uh after
that A no.
Speaker 4: I can testify in boot camp, then I'll tell you
things are pretty hot day.
Speaker 2: WHOA hang on, all right, listen, I gotta do this, ready, Susan, Ready,
because I said the magic were a discom.
Speaker 6: You know what they said about sub mariners. One hundred
men went down to fifty couples came back. Who true?
But that's what they said.
Speaker 3: Now, all right, switch I have I had a friend
who was a sub mariner in World War Two. He
was a diesel boat guy, and he told me he
was a really larger than life character and all kinds
of experiences. But one of the things that he did
tell me was if they ever came back from a
patrol with torpedo still in the boat. First of all,
they considered that to be a failure because the crew
did because they didn't do sink enough stuff. But if
they came back and they were getting close to Pearl
Harbor or wherever they were going to go, there was
alcohol that was used in the gyros of the torpedoes
of the day, and they put something that he told
me was called croton oil in it. And the croton
oil would give you diarrhea, something serious if you broke
into the torpedo and stole the alcohol to drink it.
So these guys would take and make a still on
the sub to get the croat and oil out of
the alcohol so they could drink just the alcohol, the
alcohol instead of the MA and I'd end up with diarrhea.
But again, you know, he was larger than life, so
they did this. He said, this was a real thing
that they did only on the way home, when they
knew they were not going to fire the remaining whatever
a few torpedoes, they would drain them of the alcohol. Wow,
and which had the croton oil in it. I don't
know if it was for the gyros or what it
was for, but it was pure alcohol. So that's what
he told me, okay, And I have no reason to
doubt the man because he won anyway.
Speaker 2: One anyway, Well, I.
Speaker 6: Think I tell you I didn't drink anything out of
our torpedoes.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, by the time you were there with the
new because they probably had something else in there that
would be fatal.
Speaker 6: Until they were big green torpedoes and they shoot them
out and they had like a guide wire that where
they could actually guide them for a while, and they
actually uh it wasn't a propeller, It was like some
kind of a fuel jet jet. And then and they
would use the oxygen in the uh in the water
to to uh to work.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, anything about that for a second. And the
thing about torpedoes too is uh, only because I read
this is you know, you always see them in the movies.
They hit the they hit the ship and boom, right,
but they actually explode under the ship and the pressure
from under the ship just breaks the ship in the
half crass. That's the best, you know, Susan, Please, Nick,
I have a guest for you. I guess. Oh it's
that cat.
Speaker 8: It's that one that loves your voice. Look at her.
She's just entrance.
Speaker 2: Is that the word for he? Yeah?
Speaker 4: There you go?
Speaker 2: Look, yeah. I think she wants to come and visit.
She wants to come and see mac Wow.
Speaker 8: Sacks me up. She loves your voice? Is lowis struder
from the future?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 8: First of all, is Saltpeter really salty?
Speaker 5: I never tried it tell us, tell us, switchy, nothing
like Saltpeter and pepper on your spaghetti, please, Susan save us.
Speaker 8: Built to fly fifteen miles high at three times the
speed of sound, the B seventy Valkyrie nuclear armed bomber
had the potential of being the greatest weapon ever made.
Nicknamed the Intruder from the Future, it was a huge
aircraft from a fantastic swept wing shape right out of
a nineteen fifties science fiction movie. The Valkyrie was intended
to go so fast it would basically ride above its
own shock wave, just like a surfer rides atop an
ocean wave. However, the plane's architects soon discovered major flaws
in their initial design, causing numerous delays and massive cost overruns.
By the time the first Valkyrie flew in nineteen sixty four,
it was already deemed obsolete.
Speaker 2: Have you seen this thing? Club? See it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: All right? So remember the sst remember the supersot again
where it was like twice the size of that had
six engines in the back, and it looked like that, okay.
And the idea was that it would be like almost
like three times the speed of sound to drop a
bomb in Russia basically what happened.
Speaker 4: And no, that's interesting, mac because the name Valkyrie is
a German thing from World War Two. Isn't that where
Hitler they were going to kill him? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
that Operation Valkyrie, right, so we used it now for weapons.
Speaker 2: Yep, and that was the name of B seventy so.
But it was like supposed to be so fast and
the works. Okay, so anyway, they canceled it. But before
they canceled it, the Russians said, well, we have to
make a fighter plane that's going to be super you know,
three times supersonic. And they went into this big expensive
kind of crash thing where they would make the It
turned out be the Big twenty nine, which could go
being twenty five I'm sorry, which could go almost three
times a speed of sound. That's and that's very very fast.
And then the America and so I'm not going to
do it. They may just spend all that money in
time exactly put that cat. I don't like that. The
cat's giving me like the dirty eye of a stink
like you. No, that's that's that's right problem real quick
before you go somewhere. I just looked up saltpeter, and.
Speaker 3: It says, uh, it's using gunpowder, it's choosing some other stuff.
It's a chemical, and it says what does it used for?
Speaker 2: And is it true?
Speaker 3: Reduces certain cardinal carnal urges, And then it says the
term refers to potassium or sodium nitrate has no effect
on carnal urges. The story that the chemical was put
in a soldier's food to decrease their sex drive is
a total myth.
Speaker 2: That's what I just read. So I don't know, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know what your sources, but what happened on the internet,
so it's got to be true.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, it happens in the sub stays in the sub.
I know that that's a.
Speaker 4: Sub guy saying that because that was a number one
ingredient and on the meals and subs they always that
was there.
Speaker 3: Well, they said batchulism can be prevented by the us
of sodium nitrate safe. So maybe they were using it
for something else and they just figured to beget a
two for for it.
Speaker 2: You know, watch would be Ben the sub Susan. Next, please, Susan,
how can you stand this going?
Speaker 8: The next one is holy bat bomb? Cool desperate to
attack Japan early in World War Two, the US military
came up with a truly batty idea attached tiny time
bombs to live bats, then release millions of them over Japan.
The bats would hide in buildings and homes until their
bombs went off, causing widespread fires. Though Fdr himself approved
the idea, the army abandoned it after a swarm of
the armed bats was released by accident and burned down
an air base in New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Okay, don't.
Speaker 4: The Japanese used to They tried that in the West Coast.
They would send balloons o they you know, going to
California and places like that. And they were effective in
a few instances at the bombs and the fires they
kept they didn't have to use bats, They just used
the helium balloons.
Speaker 2: They kept it secret for a while that how how
extensive some of the damage was. But they would land.
They had magnesium you know, cross state type thing. When
they would crash, it would automatically catch on fire.
Speaker 3: And see the thing is they had the prevailing wind
on their side. The wind is coming that way. Just
like if you launched it in California, it would come
to New England or you know, it was halfway across
the country anyway.
Speaker 2: But they launched more of them than you and then
they then they originally said and that it killed some
people at Brandan wish we should have launched them in
China and sent them to Japan, or they let them
burn Japan tout yeah, yeah, so okay, next Susan.
Speaker 8: Or what yep, we've got the other pussy galore. Back
in the nineteen sixties, the CIA spent twenty million trying
to turn a cat into a spy, with a microphone
embedded in its ear and an antenna taped along its back.
The plan was to let the animal loose near the
Soviet embassy in Washington, where it would hopefully encounter some
Russians and pick up conversations containing useful intelligence. But the
idea went wrong on its very first try, when, just
seconds after being released by its CIA handlers, the twenty
million dollars sp cat was run over by a taxi.
Speaker 2: Alice, Alice, think well, this okay, thirty million dollars. The
CIA spends thirty million dollars to make a spy cat
and releases it in the park, thinking it's going to
go up to some Russians who are having a conversation, yeah,
or feel bad and take it back to the embassy
it gets hit by a bus. I mean, I gotta
think if the CIA is that stupid or was that stupid?
I gotta think that that was like they spent the
money elsewhere, you know what I mean? And said, yeah,
some of the cillion of this cat, if they had
did a couple of weekends in Vegas or something. Yeah,
And there's always that kind of stuff. But if they
spend thirty million dollars and a cat, they get hit
by a bus on the off chance of all the
people that would snuggle up to, maybe Russian embassy people
would be having a I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: Some kind of conversation that was secret. That's a stretch
the chance least Susan.
Speaker 8: The next one. So I have a question. Do you
do you remember the movie?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 8: It's an old movie where they had didn't they train
the dolphins to have the warheads.
Speaker 6: Dolphin with George C. Scott Right, There was.
Speaker 8: A great movie, although it was very sad.
Speaker 3: But I know somebody worked with the dolphins doing that,
training them to they put the minds on their heads
and sent them under ships and bang them on. Yeah,
the dolphins didn't know what the end result was going
to because they thought they were going to get a
treat and they did.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, hear the dolphin just.
Speaker 8: Already. Our next one here is.
Speaker 2: I got it? Can I interrupt you for one second season? Place? Yes,
there are people in the bar who have been clapping. Uh,
you know for the past couple Ben, it's so club.
Do you have an update?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I was so concentrated on Susan, but
I'm gonna I'm gonna give you an update right now. Okay,
it's oh fifth inning, top of the sixth one and
nothing Yankee still.
Speaker 2: What they clapping? I mean because they got somebody.
Speaker 4: Maybe they're drunk.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Yankees they should not be in here. Yeah, anyway, Susan, please.
Speaker 8: All right. So the last part I have from Macaloney's
Taunted Universe is, uh, we're gonna do weird facts about Roswell.
Speaker 2: We had facts about Roswell. One nothing happened at Roswell.
I said that many times.
Speaker 7: Yes, right, please on or About the night of July fourth,
nineteen forty seven, a disc shaped object was reported streaking
through the sky above Roswell, New Mexico, then a small
city in the southeastern part of the state.
Speaker 8: A severe thunderstorm was passing through the area at the time,
and some residents recalled hearing a loud explosion at the
height of the storm, meaning the object exploded in the sky.
Speaker 2: Okay, number two, that's the first weird thing. Okay, yep.
Speaker 8: The next day, a rancher came forward to say he'd
found bits of strange looking wreck wreckage scattered across an
open field about seventy five miles northwest of roswellge as
shiny metallic material similar to tinfoil and balsa like wooden
sticks cut in the shape.
Speaker 2: Of I beams, Crischall, that's the weird thing about it.
Seventy five miles away from Roswell. You know Rosweld's was
like this. You know this name that's you know, goes
off of Uflo infamy. But it's like so far away.
But any found sticks, okay, how many flying sauces that
have Bossa sticks in them? Please?
Speaker 8: She number three. Others who later handled the debris claimed
it postcuse me, possessed incredible properties. The metallic material had
super strength and the ability to unfold itself. The beams
were impossible to break or burn. They also had indecipherable
hieroglyphic hieroglyphics printed on them.
Speaker 2: Okay, so anyway, what really happened right for oswell, let's
say we have fifteen minutes left their Unkllisle is that
it was a weather balloon and not a weather balloon,
but it was what you would call a weather balloon.
But it actually was being launched by CIA and the
Air Force where it had a the vice on it
that would pick up audio signals right. And as now
I was saying, if you if you release a bloom anywhere,
it's going to go east, right, because that's where the
prevailing winds go. And they were going to put this
They wanted to go fly over the Soviet unions to
see if it picked up sounds of an atomic bomb
going off, and that would be convincing that the Russian
said the atomic bomb. But this thing crash and what
they made it out of was believing in on general mills.
The same people who make cheerios were the people of
judge of launching this thing for some reason. And the
thing that they found was the material that was made
for these like helium balloons, and they would put a
kite on it, you know, to slow it down and whatever.
And they needed balssal wood, so they used to go
this is in Los Alamos. They would go to this
local florist shop that used to put displays in their
window all the time, and they would have leftover balsa
and it then hieroglyphics on it because it came from
some foreign country and that's where it came from. That
was like, you know, when it came into the port,
you'd read that nowhere it came from. And that's all
that happened in Roswell. One of those things crashed. And
this whole idea that we shot down in Ufo was
most likely a cover story for the fact that we
were spying on one of our allies at the time.
Let's be nineteen forty seven.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you're saying the metal was the bag that
they used for the cereal? Yes fresh, No, No, it
could be like a silver like when you open a
box that could be General Mills cereal. Is that silver? Yeah,
it keeps it fresh, lining to keep you so you
break that open and get cereal. So that's that, and
then the boss of wood provided some stability frame.
Speaker 2: It was a kite. Yeah, okay, yeah, I can I
can see that. And who knows why, but General Mills
was responsible for launching these balloons back and back then, okay,
and and you know and and you know it was
it was like at the at the at the time
Kenneth found had seen his flying saucees on like two
weeks before or whatever the Marie Ion incident. It happened,
people were seeing flying saucees everywhere all of a sudden
those two or three weeks, there was like thousands of
reports of stuff in the air. Okay, the Air Force,
I think I wanted to say, well, we've we've got one.
But what they were really doing was it was a balloon.
We know it, but you really don't want we hushed
it up. You go.
Speaker 6: And you know what they said when they launched them.
They said the best of you.
Speaker 2: Each morning they said cheerio and yet and and you
know and in like I've said this many times before
I was a kid. I've read every UFO books client
saus A book in our library, believe me, and magazines
and everything like that. And you never heard anything about
Roswell until nineteen eighty in the National Enchoir, a guy
who wouldn't come on our show and another guy wrote
this story three pot thing about how this happened in
Rosmond all of a sudden boom, it's like this big
thing and now it's like a circus down there. I
mean they have museums and stuff like that. In a
weird way. I'd like to go there. But the guy
who found, the guy who actually looked at the wreckage,
his son was on our show and I forget his name. Man,
we should know this guy's name, switch you would know it.
And he was a dentist and he was a kid,
and he was the kid who he was the guy
is considered the metal unfolded itself and would.
Speaker 3: Do this or do that?
Speaker 6: Mac Brazil Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 2: His son. Okay, so this kid was a little kid
when this happened. When he was on our show, he
was seventy three years old. This is this is a
great guy. I believe it because you know, he moved
from Roswell to this place in Utah because he just
couldn't take it anymore, you know, because they had just
so inflated what had happened to him that day when
he was seventy three years old, he was called back
into the service to go to Iraq. Okay, per year
you got to work in like a medical tent or
whatever like that, and sa, are you kidding me? Seventy
three years old and he went over there. He was
on our show, the greatest guy. He was just like
a really really good guy who was just having to
be caught up in this. Then he died about three
months later, really really nice guy. So, uh, you know,
it's it's it's it's up. The myth takes on so
much weight that the truth is kin left behind, you know,
and the National Choir you know back then, who knows,
but they had they boosted it up, and it's never
come down. Okay, it must be. They must have just
tied that up. Anyway, Should we go on, Susan, what's
the next weird thing? These twenty as these we don't
need them?
Speaker 8: Uh So Number four is the military was alerted to
the Ranches discovery. The wreckage was collected and taken to
nearby Roswell Army Airfield, where the Basis Intelligence officers examined it.
On July eighth, the Basis Public Affairs Officer issued A
startling press release declaring the wreckage had come from a
flying saucer made headlines across the country.
Speaker 2: So back then there was the media was not like
it is, not like instantaneous. You know, it took a
while for the story to krawl back and forth anything
like that. And then you know, they came up like
two days later and said, well, you know, and then
and then it n when went away went away. You know,
it didn't have like the pulse that it would have
like these days. One more maybe and.
Speaker 8: Then we're yep, we got number five, which is in
July nineteen forty seven, people from every state of New
Union were reporting flying saucers, a term we know was
coined just weeks earlier by pilot Kenneth Arnold after he'd
spotted a group of saucer shaped objects passing over the
Cascade Mountains in Washington State. With the military's announcement in Roswell,
it seemed as if the flying saucer mystery was about
to be solved.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they come out and said they had one,
and then boom, yeah, a few days later they said, well,
not really, we should do switch at some point to
a not a show, but a big segment in the
Mari Island incident. We haven't done that in a while.
That is the most effed up thing in the world.
You know, if it's even half true.
Speaker 6: It is really effed up. It's uh uh, it's got
to be a hoax. Uh. People died, Innocent people died
because of it. Yeah, brag. Chrisman was at the center.
But I believe uh Ray Palmer, the the the author,
the editor of Amazing Stories and the promoter of the
Shaver mystery was involved. And Kevin Keel called him the
man that invented UFOs because he kind of kept the
UFO mystery alive in the early years he co co
founded Fate magazine. Yes, yeah, it was. And also, uh,
I mean Kenneth Artold got involved in it, the man
that saw the kind of start the modern wave of UFOs.
There was almost like an alleged Man in Black encounter.
It was probably fabricated, but nonetheless it's one of these
things that helped us set off the Man in Black.
Call it folklore or history, you know, it's just a huge,
huge can of words.
Speaker 2: It was a conspiracy, a lot of people involved and
a lot of you know, weird things happened in the
middle of it, like, for instance, the guy, we should
just do a segment on it. But the guy who
the FBI agent, the head FBI agent in Seattle or
close where it happened, wrote to J. Hoover and said,
this really happened. You know. They found that years later.
But this guy Fred Crisman, who was at the middle
of this kind of UFO citing whatever that went on
on non years later, he gets called before the JFK
Assassination Committee, right, you know, to testify about what happened
November twenty twenty second, right in nineteen sixty three. That
what you know, what's the connection? You know what I mean,
what could possibly be the connection there? But anyway, that's
another show. So thank you Susan. We're going to clap
for you because we love you. Listen, so welcome Lele.
We probably have about fifteen minutes left. I would say, okay,
so instead of taking a break, when we talk about
the lay lines really quick and then we'll bring the
ship into the station, right, I think, because someone orders
the other day and said, you know, you guys talk
about lay lines. Been nothing you know in a long
you know, so we would talk about them tonight a
little bit. So lay line basically, And when I think
of lay lines, I think of Britain, United Kingdom and
the whole island. And if you believe some people, and
there's a lot of people who have done a lot
of research this books and so on, there are these
lines of these roads in England that seem to point
from one let's say, interesting place, to another to another
to another along kind of straight line. I'll give you
the example. So wherever Stonehenges and Great Britain, let's say
that's the starting point, it'd be a straight line to
the foul Ch Triangle, where more UFOs are seen than
any of the place in the earth, a straight line.
But other interesting places would be along that line, you know,
some kind of other kind of stone structure, whatever, there's
some kind of haunted place. Who knows. So it could
be one of two things. In my mind. Number one,
what people will say is that all these things were
create Now this is back like five thousand years ago,
and this is what the Romans got there. These are
prehistor people who lived in Great Britain at the time.
And if you want to believe some people, is that
this was like a weird highway, a paranormal highway that
odd things would happen if you and if you look
at the map, it looks like almost like a highway system,
but all straight line. So it's either one way. Back then,
these people knew stuff about stuff that we have no
idea about. One number two. It's just a coincidence. As
we were talking about here. Now, you know, you can
throw a straight line from here to there in anywhere.
You can throw a straight line from the north pole
of Paris and it'd be a straight line. But the
weird thing is is that things happen that things also
popped up along and close line, right, you know.
Speaker 3: I've did some reading on it today and some of
some of the early stuff they say is basically a
straight line between two known areas. Back in ancient times
they were going through the woods. They weren't there were
no roads, the Romans paths paths, there were no Romans
to build the roads yet. So these people just went
the straightest way they could through the woods and cut
a path through the woods, and they tried to explain
it that way, you know. And then you get other
people that say things like, you know, their energy lines
or there it's a it's a grid, yeah, grid, or
it's the ufoh, you know, navigational tool. But the straight line,
you know, they like I said, when you go back,
it's the shortest distance between two known things. And other
things would pop up along it because people would be
going by there and maybe stopping there and spending time
and just using that road right. And then the Romans
showed up and said, you know you already cut through
all the dense jungle. He made the heaviest you know,
if you did, they work, well, we'll put down stones
and make a real road out of it. So you know,
there's the power thing. You know, there's all kinds of conjecture,
and there's all kinds of books like Steve has said,
like he's going to come up with right now.
Speaker 6: Well, the guy that kind of started this in nineteen
twenty one was Alfred Watkins from Hertfordshire. He was a
businessman and he noticed that if you look along the
English country side, like Mack was talking about, you would
see things like churches, ancient mounds, stone circles, barrows which
were burial mounds. And he thought they were just mainly
there wasn't anything mystical about him, but later on he
thought maybe there was some kind of religious significance. He
died in thirty five and this was kind of lost.
Then the couple of people kind of resurrected it. John Mitchell,
who wrote The Flying Saucer Vision uh heuh he talked
about the uh uh dragon tracks, well that the Chinese
uh he quotes mystical science of fung shui involves dragon tracks. Well,
dragon tracks kind of parallel lay lines, because there were
these important sites along the dragon tracks.
Speaker 2: Right, it wasn't just the UK. It was in a
lot of different places, but you can't hit a lot
of them.
Speaker 6: And then Tom Lethbridge, who was the famous dowser pendulum
dowser that is really really interesting. He wrote the book
called the Legends of the Sons of God. Now this
kind of paralleled uh. Eric von Dannigan, they didn't really
know each other and they didn't didn't cross paths or anything,
but he was talking about, you know, connecting this possibility
to to ancient visits from aliens. But he thought that
the Lethbridge thought that these still sites along these these
lines or whatever, uh could be uh charged by ritual dancing.
And you know there's a lot of the ritual dancing
that has been associated with these different monuments, but he
believed that there were actually power centers and perhaps it
even gets a little bit into the alien stuff again,
that perhaps these were vecans for or extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2: Yes, did you say dancing.
Speaker 6: Yes, they were a ritual ritual dancing. He hypothesized that okay, okay,
she wouldn't have any any ritual amounts that they're even
to charge operating and and and then then Ted Holliday
who's the guy that investigated lock Ness, and became to
believe that lock Ness was not a policeosaur, then perhaps
a mollusk, and then thought maybe there was something more
like uh, you know, he was influenced by John Keel,
He was influenced by Carl Jung. He thought this might
be some kind of a projection or whatever. But he
was studying Bronze Age archaeology and that's what brought him
to the idea of lay lines as well. So these
a couple of men kind of resurrected this a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but but but but I mean,
you know, with anything, it's like, you know, it tastes
on this, you know, my grand importance or they put
a lot of these you know that it's aliens put
them down there, and that's charge of the rocks and stuff.
But it's just like odd, I think all might have
like hit on it is that you know, you back
then they were barely pass they were barely Yeah, maybe
you get a wagon. They have wagons back then. This
is like five thousand years. It's like when the pyramids
were built. Okay, but you would take the straightest you know,
from wait, from here to there, so obviously that'd be
the road that everyone takes, is really what it is.
And so when these like weird things happen along the
road that everyone takes and not just out in the
middle of nowhere, which.
Speaker 6: Well he even Amy Michelle, who was a colleague of
Jacques valaid he wrote a book called Flying Saucers in
the Straight Line Mystery, and he kind of connected some
of this up with Ley lines as well. He thought
that if you plotted a lot of the sightings on
a graph, you'd find that these things were showing up
in straight lines. There's a lot of controversy about that.
And the guy that wrote the Flying Saucer vision that
he wrote the view over Atlantis, and he connected the
beliefs in dragons with UFOs. I mean, people have been
seeing things in the sky forever. He thought there was
kind of a parallel there, and he thought that they
were both kind of symbols that were maybe projections of
human consciousness. So we go down that that uh uh
way again. Even he even hypothesized that this is this
is Mitchell that uh you know, Saint Patrick driving the
uh the the serpents out of Ireland. Yes, that was
that was a symbol of them banishing the ancient religion
of dragon worship. What's that word?
Speaker 2: Yes, Patrick, Okay, well listen, let's clap the switchy. Yeah,
because he's over tired there he is. Oh look at
that ball spot. Holy shit. Sorry, So anyway, switchy, thank you,
and please put up the magic image of.
Speaker 6: The I want me to put up the bald spot,
I mean the no.
Speaker 2: No, Susan, it's time to say goodbye.
Speaker 8: I know, it was such a pleasure. Nice to see
all of your beautiful faces.
Speaker 2: It's nice to see you because, hey, Susan, how's how's
Rudy doing. He's all right, he's doing good.
Speaker 8: You know. I went to that three day really four
day weekend in Ben's called Benson Mule Days.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so it was nice. We rode a lot, but
Rudy's still having some trailer anxiety, so he kind of
tore up my trailer.
Speaker 2: Wow. Great, wow. So he likes his new saddle and
bridle and everything.
Speaker 8: He does, and he looks so many people commented and said, oh,
what a pretty horse. And four people use the word majestic,
so humbled by. He's just such a good boy. He
really is a beautiful hoss in you know, real life.
Speaker 4: He doesn't bring him over to the show. Someday I
would like to.
Speaker 8: Now, you know, I'm off for them next week. I
could ride him up.
Speaker 3: There, you know, all right, eh, he is very right
down right now down ninety three photoshy right.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I knew somebody who lived in Hamilton, Mass. They used to.
Speaker 3: Winter in Florida, and they had horses, and they would
take them by train up to Hamilton, Mass and would
stop at the Hamilton train station, take the horses out
of the car and walk them down to the house.
Speaker 2: That's where all the Swells were all right, lived in
Hamilton went on. So thank you, Susan. We appreciate Boshington
two to one. Hang on Club, Thank you, clubby Club.
Speaker 4: Thanks, you know, Marcott was a pleasure being here tonight. Okay,
listening to.
Speaker 2: Really quick, really quick? What's going to happen? Buffalo Pats?
Speaker 4: Come on, the Buffalo is gonna win. But I think
the Pats will give them a good game.
Speaker 2: Yeah if they if we want yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: You know, Buffalo superior team.
Speaker 2: I never thought i'd say that, but anyway, Switchy, thank
you Switchy for joining us.
Speaker 6: Switchy, it was my pleasure.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, And what's for breakfast tomorrow or anything good?
Waffles or anything.
Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna actually uh drank my carcass out
and uh go uh go to a restaurant a place
called that club is very familiar with called tutors.
Speaker 2: Who did listen?
Speaker 4: Now you say hi to the girls from me? You know,
well there is.
Speaker 6: I will we miss them, you know, I can't wait
to see the reaction when I say clubs as high.
Speaker 4: Well, I told you that they when they win the
belly up peace up to your place. Apparently they still
allow some of that skinty close so they're still in business.
Speaker 2: But don't forget to want to feed the cats first
the business model. You know, thanks, thank you. Al oh, hey,
glad to be here in the Couch Show. The Couch Show.
I actually.
Speaker 3: Didn't watch any football this weekend because the wife wasn't home.
Speaker 2: I didn't have to pages. I was on Netflix watching
all kinds of weird movies. That's that's why I heard
the screen all right, thank you. I want to thank
everyone for a while listening, and uh just want to
remind everyone about homeshow troops. Homesround Troops is, however, a
military organization that raises money for our veterans who were
injured in the post nine to eleven at action combat.
That would be the Iraq War and the off Afghan Wa. Wow.
These are people who gave a lot to our country,
probably missing a limb or whatever. And home stow troops
build some houses that are adapted to their needs. Not
a lot of stairs, low account of space. You've heard
us talk about them for years. Please google them and
see what they were about. Ninety cents on your dollar
is right to our veterans. And what happens is that
they build them these houses, and they give them the keys,
rip up the mortgages. It's their house forever. They don't
have to worry about that mortgage payment every month, and
they can go out and rejoin society once again. These
are people gave a lot to us. We should give
a lot to them, especially these days where the veterans
are being I don't know what the word is for it,
but they're not being as on it as they should be. Okay.
These are people who gave pots of their lives for
our country for us to do stuff like this, okay,
And you should not in any way demean them or
take away any benefits or anything from them. You should,
if anything, you should make it easier for them to
get benefits. But anyway, please keep an eye on that.
And until you hear us next time, this is back
from the entire gang saying be safe, be happy, and
bye bye