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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine days.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>when we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Get off our show. Idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are playing or trailt. The coaches are screwing

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<v Speaker 2>it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 3>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 4>I am happy to get the show started today and

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<v Speaker 4>let you guys know that I did survive after four

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<v Speaker 4>straight days of NonStop basketball. Yesterday was a challenge, but

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<v Speaker 4>I got through it. And not only am I excited

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<v Speaker 4>to get this thing started today to take you up

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<v Speaker 4>until six o'clock, I mean I'm excited for a little

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<v Speaker 4>fever that's returned. I'm talking about the ni T fever.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got it. Anybody else have it?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it contagious? Will it spread? A kid?

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<v Speaker 4>We're not gonna talk a lot about the I, but

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<v Speaker 4>we do have some games tonight that I'm gonna bet on,

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<v Speaker 4>and just knowing that there's college basketball that I can

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<v Speaker 4>watch is something I'm really really cherish at this moment,

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<v Speaker 4>because again, it'll be over before too long, and that

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<v Speaker 4>makes makes me very sad. But I'm happy to to

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<v Speaker 4>just mention get the things started today. The thing that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm referring to is the show. This is a show

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<v Speaker 4>and it's called Coffee and Company, and we are fueled

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<v Speaker 4>by Thornton's my name's Nick Coffee, hence the name Coffee

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<v Speaker 4>and Company. I've got company today as always, the one

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<v Speaker 4>and only traveled Chief Austin Montgomery alongside running the operation.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're gonna have some fun. We're gonna mix it up.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not get into Love is Blind last night,

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<v Speaker 4>like that we talked about. I'm sure eventually it'll it'll

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<v Speaker 4>because this is where we really stove. Yeah, so we

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<v Speaker 4>started some shows I mean here and there over the

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<v Speaker 4>last few my wife and I have and when basketball's rolling,

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<v Speaker 4>like we'll get a couple of episodes in and then

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<v Speaker 4>like abandon it for maybe a month. So last night

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<v Speaker 4>we ended up finishing the final three episodes of Severance.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that was really good. Seems very popular. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen that yet. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh well, I'll just share my thoughts really really enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>the show overall, top to bottom. I think season two

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<v Speaker 4>was good and and some of the episodes were really great.

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<v Speaker 4>It just got a little too almost.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes I.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel like these shows that are really cinematic and.

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<v Speaker 2>Deep, right, like you gotta you gotta really.

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<v Speaker 4>Be playing a Yeah, so like I'm sure more than anything,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just me not having the capacity upstairs to.

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<v Speaker 2>To really follow and know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yea, as good as some others, but like there's there's

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<v Speaker 4>like a line where if you get just if you

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<v Speaker 4>get to a to a certain spot, like and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>really into it and I'm realizing what's going on that

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<v Speaker 4>hooks me and I really love shows like that. Many

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<v Speaker 4>shows that that I consider my all the time favorites

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<v Speaker 4>were like that. But then there's somewhere they kind of

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<v Speaker 4>crossed the line and I'm like, all right, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>think I know what's going on, but I'm not really sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So it did get a little bit like that was

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<v Speaker 4>season two, But overall, really enjoy severance. And then after

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<v Speaker 4>we finished it, wife, kids go to bed, and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>it just automatically started playing on Apple TV a new

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<v Speaker 4>show that I'd never heard of. But I'm already hooked

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<v Speaker 4>him three episodes in. It's called Dope Thief. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>Tye.

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<v Speaker 4>So you will know him from Atlanta, the show that

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<v Speaker 4>I've never watched it, but you know what sure I'm

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<v Speaker 4>talking about though, Yes, he was Paperboy in Atlanta, which,

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<v Speaker 4>of course that show Donald Glover's show. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean we probably won't do a whole lot of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, this guy's been a lot of Yea, he's

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<v Speaker 4>just trained. I've got some buzz right now. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 4>definitely definitely making some moves. But this is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes we occasionally talk some TV talk about what we're streaming,

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll do that during the off season. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 4>with no basketball last night, that is what I did.

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<v Speaker 4>So now that we are just a couple of days

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<v Speaker 4>away from getting back to it right the Sweet sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm continuing to reflect on not Louisville necessarily, but just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of where we are with college basketball, because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I go back and forth as far as balancing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>am I looking at it from just my lens as

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<v Speaker 4>a college basketball fanatic, or am I you know, Am

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<v Speaker 4>I able to kind of step away from that and

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<v Speaker 4>realize that I am in the minority, right, I view

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<v Speaker 4>college basketball in a different way just because it's my

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<v Speaker 4>go to. But I think you've got some numbers now

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<v Speaker 4>that will confirm that, regardless of what it's done to

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<v Speaker 4>your team, your program. The new world of college athletics

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<v Speaker 4>with nil on the transfer portal, which basically the players

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<v Speaker 2>The power now right.

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<v Speaker 4>They can go wherever they want, and money will be

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<v Speaker 4>a big factor in why they go where they go

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<v Speaker 4>in most instances, and being able to make money, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>keeps them wanting to play college basketball as long as

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<v Speaker 4>simply possible, which is why you see guys playing for

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<v Speaker 4>a fifth or sixth year. You got some guys entering

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<v Speaker 4>the portal that have no eligibility. They're just going to

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<v Speaker 4>enter a waiver and see if they if they can

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<v Speaker 4>get away with it, I guess, because why go start

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<v Speaker 4>play in college another year and put away some money.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think college basketball specifically, all this talk about, well,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no Cinderella and it's just so hard for the

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<v Speaker 4>lower levels. Well, that's true, but the product of college

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<v Speaker 4>basketball overall has benefited from this. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, I'm sitting here telling you that it's better.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the better players, even though they're not NBA players,

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<v Speaker 4>they're good players. They stick around, The products better, the

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<v Speaker 4>games are better. I mean, all that's true, But the numbers,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean throughout the first two weekends, the first two

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<v Speaker 4>rounds of the tournament, the viewership through the second round, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>this is this is from Turner, So, STNT Sports and

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<v Speaker 4>CBS Sports delivered NCAA tournament's best viewership since nineteen ninety three.

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<v Speaker 4>So viewership did the second round on TBS, CBS, TNT

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<v Speaker 4>and True TV was averaging nine point four million viewers,

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<v Speaker 4>the most watched tournament in thirty two years. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the proof there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's how old I am. So this is the

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<v Speaker 2>most watched tournament since you've been alive. That's crazy, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy to think. It's nice to know that Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>was back in the dance. For you being back alive

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<v Speaker 2>is obviously because of Lowell.

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<v Speaker 4>Clearly, Yeah, that's what it is. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good sign.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes me feel a little bit better about you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not worried about like the future of college basketball,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do think points that were made by the

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<v Speaker 4>casuals as far as well, it's gonna lose its intrigue

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<v Speaker 4>if in fact, you don't get any more Cinderella's out there,

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<v Speaker 4>well maybe, but people are still watching. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 4>tuned in to see something that didn't end up happening.

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<v Speaker 4>So like maybe if we get a few years into

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<v Speaker 4>this where there's no big there's no real Cinderella in

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<v Speaker 4>the second weekend, then maybe you see a drop off.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think if the product, if the product is

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<v Speaker 4>continuing to be the level that it's at right now,

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<v Speaker 4>it can maintain. I mean, I think that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I think college basketball is going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be in good shape.

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<v Speaker 4>So again, I'm we're always gonna love it. But as

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<v Speaker 4>far as how the rest of the world perceives it,

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<v Speaker 4>we can't really control that, right, We're just I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we can do about it. However, it is good for

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<v Speaker 4>the overall health of college basketball. If you get more

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<v Speaker 4>and more people that aren't gonna maybe be obsessed with

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<v Speaker 4>it like we are, but just it's it's part of

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<v Speaker 4>the rotation. It's something they follow, they have interest in.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's better for everybody. And I know that

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<v Speaker 4>the Portal and NIL has really put lower level programs.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not just talking about like the Bellerman's I'm

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<v Speaker 4>talking about, like, let me give you an example, because

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is really an example of where we are.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got a team that played in the National Championship

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<v Speaker 4>Game two years ago, San Diego State. They lost in

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<v Speaker 4>the National Championship Game to Yukon. I mean, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>a Cinderella, But I gotta be honest with you, that

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<v Speaker 4>year San Diego State and FAU being in the final four,

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of forget that happened, you know, the Kenny

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<v Speaker 4>Payne air. For me as a Louisville fan, it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a blur. But I mean, you know, I remember

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<v Speaker 4>that those two teams both made that kind of a run,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not something that really stands out, and it

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<v Speaker 4>actually seems like it was a long time ago. But

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<v Speaker 4>San Diego State's a team that I mean, they're not

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they're Mountain West, right. I mean, if the

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<v Speaker 4>Pac twelve survived and they added a team San Diego State,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the first team they would add. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 4>not like a nobody, but they also just don't have

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<v Speaker 4>like I mean, it's really a culture thing in the

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<v Speaker 4>West Coast, especially in a city like San Diego. Like

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<v Speaker 4>think about how think about where San Diego State thet

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<v Speaker 4>think about where the San Diego State Aztec's rank as

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<v Speaker 4>far as like importance, priority interest, because we're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>San Diego, California maybe the most beautiful place in the

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<v Speaker 4>world according to some, So there's not as much passion.

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<v Speaker 4>Therefore there's not there's not as much history with you know,

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<v Speaker 4>rich people that are willing to put up a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of money to make sure you have a good roster.

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<v Speaker 4>So San Diego State like this, this has to suck.

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<v Speaker 4>As a San Diego State fan. The starters for that team,

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<v Speaker 4>Lamont Butler, he's now Kentucky. Kashaw Johnson transferred last year

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<v Speaker 4>played at Arizona. I mean, Nick Boyd, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 4>he transferred.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's who I think it is, let me see.

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<v Speaker 4>If that's who I think it is, I think he

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<v Speaker 4>transferred fau which is kind of odd, but nonetheless, like

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<v Speaker 4>you've got. Let me give you another example of this

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<v Speaker 4>is probably the best example to use of FAU. Like

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<v Speaker 4>FAU made a Final four, right, and that was insane,

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<v Speaker 4>And they actually brought those guys back the next year,

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<v Speaker 4>and money was a factor. But like they're in Boca Raton,

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<v Speaker 4>they had a bunch of people throwing money saying, hey.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cool, we got a good basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>Team now, I mean, to be fair, they did throw

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<v Speaker 4>some money at Dusty May for that year following his

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<v Speaker 4>Final four run, and they threw some money at these

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<v Speaker 4>players to keep that team together that made a Final four.

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<v Speaker 4>And then of course, you know after that one year

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<v Speaker 4>ends to do one more song? What is that called? Austin,

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<v Speaker 4>you're supposed to know this? What was that when a

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<v Speaker 4>the show to do one more OnCore? Yeah, so they

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<v Speaker 4>brought it back for an encore. Dusty May back for

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<v Speaker 4>another year. This whole team's back, and then of course,

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<v Speaker 2>To the portal.

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<v Speaker 4>So just think about this if you're FAU you had

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<v Speaker 4>the Final four team in twenty twenty three. Here we

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<v Speaker 4>Who was the guy he was at Asian Martin who's

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he's now one of Florida's best players.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean it put yourself in the shoes of an FAU fan.

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<v Speaker 4>of the Owls, Like I just don't you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>out for you, right where you have this miraculous run

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<v Speaker 4>and then now you've got to watch those guys playing

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<v Speaker 4>in the you know, in the second weekend, maybe in

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<v Speaker 4>the Final four for a different program. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think that kind of stuff will ever happen to us

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<v Speaker 4>around here, because you're gonna lose players. You're gonna lose

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<v Speaker 4>players that you want to keep. But the notion of

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<v Speaker 4>like you making final fours and then those guys moving

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<v Speaker 4>on because they want to go higher, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there's always gonna be programs that maybe in any given

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<v Speaker 4>because maybe they're better. But if here's the thing, if anybody,

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<v Speaker 4>if Louisville, Kentucky, Indiana, if they're going to final fours

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<v Speaker 4>around here, there's gonna be money.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there to keep these guys where they are.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, even if you're not going to final fours,

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<v Speaker 4>I still think the programs around here will will have

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<v Speaker 4>a better ability to round up funds to keep good

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<v Speaker 4>players that everybody knows you want to keep around. So

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<v Speaker 4>I know we've said it many times, and hell, we

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<v Speaker 4>talked about it a lot yesterday. But now that we

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<v Speaker 4>get to the second weekend, I mean, the way in

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<v Speaker 4>which this whole sport works is way different. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't need to remind you guys Louisville benefited from this.

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<v Speaker 4>We in no way can claim that, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 4>not we don't like the new world here. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>you can and.

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<v Speaker 2>If the overall you know, if your overall.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought is that you preferred it better when players couldn't transfer,

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<v Speaker 4>and that for whatever reason, I don't know that you

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<v Speaker 4>like to watch them play knowing they're not getting paid.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can have that opinion, and it's your opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody's right or wrong. But Louisville without question was able

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<v Speaker 4>to benefit from this because you have when you were

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<v Speaker 4>able to get rid of Kenny Payne after two years

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<v Speaker 4>and start all over, and in the first year you

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<v Speaker 4>had a brand new team, all new pieces from top

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<v Speaker 4>to bottom, staff, personnel, players, and we got to see

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<v Speaker 4>that you can quickly turn it around with a good

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<v Speaker 4>going to work at it, which, by the way, real quick,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get too sidetracked here, but I

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<v Speaker 4>did just see one of will Wade's comments at his

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<v Speaker 4>introductory press conference yesterday. Quote, this is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>this is not going to be a rebuild. Next year,

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to be in the top half of the ACC.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to be in the NAA Tournament. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to win. I mean, just think about I mean think

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<v Speaker 4>about I mean, that's that really doesn't even stand out

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<v Speaker 4>to me is some type of wild thing to say,

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<v Speaker 4>But just to know that we had a bum here

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<v Speaker 4>for a couple of years that absolutely like made every

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<v Speaker 4>excuse whenever he didn't even have like the he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even have the the real I mean, he didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>any self awareness or I guess maybe the brain to

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<v Speaker 4>realize that you're saying things that like even nobody believes that,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, not to get too side tracked on.

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<v Speaker 4>That, but what's got me kind of you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess feeling a little guilty is you know, I watch

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of lower level basketball, not like it consumes

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<v Speaker 4>my life, but I'll probably watch a lot more than

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<v Speaker 4>the average college basketball fan.

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<v Speaker 2>One because I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Also because I like to bet on it, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I do like to get there's something kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't know when it comes to let me

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<v Speaker 4>give you an example. I'm sure a lot of you

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<v Speaker 4>have like music. Maybe it's bands, artists, groups, I don't know, rappers,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever that you know you're in early right, you are

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<v Speaker 4>there before they blow up. You kind of hope maybe

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<v Speaker 4>they don't blow up because you want to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>keep it your thing. You want to be a gatekeeper

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit. That's kind of how I am with

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<v Speaker 4>like mid major college basketball. Like it's not something you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I can throw out to brag about. It certainly doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>make me cool in any way, but like I follow

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<v Speaker 4>the Missouri Valley Conference, I follow the MAC probably more

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<v Speaker 4>than the average, and it's just something I enjoy but begaining. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't say that to brag. It's not anything worth

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<v Speaker 4>bragging about, but like those programs in this new world,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a different thing for them now. Meaning if

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<v Speaker 4>you're a coach that's going to get a job at

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<v Speaker 4>one of those places, you probably need to sell recruits,

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<v Speaker 4>especially talented freshmen, because I feel like it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>hard for true freshmen to get on the floor. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean you occasionally you're gonna have somebody that you realize

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<v Speaker 4>was like way better than you thought and they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to have a great season. And then you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>guys like Cooper Flag the kid at Texas. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there's some really good freshmen out there that were top

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<v Speaker 4>ten players VJ. Edgecomb was phenomenal at Baylor this year,

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<v Speaker 4>So you're gonna have those guys. But like if you're

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<v Speaker 4>if you're like outside the top twenty, you're probably still

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have a lot of offers and be able to

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<v Speaker 4>go wherever you want if you're low five star and

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<v Speaker 4>then a four star. But like you may be better

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<v Speaker 4>off to go play at a mid major and put

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<v Speaker 4>up big numbers and then hit the portal, and like

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<v Speaker 4>that's when you walking into a big role. Like I

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<v Speaker 4>just think the path to get to the high level

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<v Speaker 4>playing deep in the tournament for a good team, a

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<v Speaker 4>good brand. I just think, you know, it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 4>ideal when these guys the guys. And this is another

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<v Speaker 4>thing that I just think is wild. This there's a

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<v Speaker 4>map that somebody put out there on Twitter. The Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the Twitter account is NCAA Buzzer Beaters, So I'll just

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<v Speaker 4>retweet it. If you're following me at the card Connect,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll see it. But I mean it is wild because

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<v Speaker 4>it gives you the star. It gives you the starting

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<v Speaker 4>lineup of every team that's in the Sweet sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't give you which team it is. But there's

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<v Speaker 4>five spots. So it gives you the we're each starter

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<v Speaker 4>for each Sweet sixteen team started playing their college basketball career,

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<v Speaker 4>and they don't even tell you which team it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I can decipher which which team, which which certain teams

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<v Speaker 4>are because it's it's relatively easy. But like Purdue is

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<v Speaker 4>the only school that has five starters in the Sweet

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen that all started their career there. And again that's

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<v Speaker 4>because they're rare, right, Like they're they're different. Matt Painter's

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<v Speaker 4>just got a way of going about it and it works.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Izzo's got four of five starters, same thing, old school.

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<v Speaker 4>He's had to make some adjustments, but he's he's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, he's somebody that really hasn't done a

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<v Speaker 4>whole lot different now than he.

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<v Speaker 2>Did before all this stuff started.

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<v Speaker 4>Do Duke's rare as well, because they've got i mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they're Duke, they don't lose many players often to transfer,

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<v Speaker 4>so they've got four out of five. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 4>you got a mixed bag. I mean, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 4>this is I mean, look at look at look at

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<v Speaker 4>our Arkansas. Here's their starters Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas, fau in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's where the starting five to four Arkansas started

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<v Speaker 4>their career. And then you look and then you can

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<v Speaker 4>look at I'm pretty sure this is is this Kentucky's. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky has Drexel, Delaware, Dayton, Oklahoma, and San Diego State.

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<v Speaker 4>So what I'm getting at is that wasn't the plan

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<v Speaker 4>when those guys started college, because when those guys started college,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a different world. Right, we didn't have this

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<v Speaker 4>what it is now. In fact, I mean I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to for some reason, I always lose. I I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know exactly when it was that everything just changed because

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<v Speaker 4>it was kind of a slow build. Right first, first

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<v Speaker 4>you had I mean I remember when NIL happened. But

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<v Speaker 4>as far as like the transfer portal, it became a

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<v Speaker 4>thing where you could get like a waiver if you

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<v Speaker 4>graduated and had a year left, and then you could

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<v Speaker 4>do like the one time transfer, or you could transfer

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<v Speaker 4>because your coach left. And then slowly, over time it

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<v Speaker 4>just became an absolute free for all, which is where

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<v Speaker 4>it is right now. So I just think if you

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<v Speaker 4>are a young high school if you're a kid coming

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<v Speaker 4>out of high school, you know you may have a

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<v Speaker 4>decent entry level NIL deal at a power five school

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<v Speaker 4>that is too tough to pass up, and you may

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<v Speaker 4>just believe that you're good enough to wear Hey, regardless

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<v Speaker 4>of who they're bringing in the portal, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>good enough to where I'm gonna get real minutes and

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to be you know, and and it'll all

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<v Speaker 4>work out.

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<v Speaker 2>But look around the country right now. All these guys

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<v Speaker 2>that have been.

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<v Speaker 4>To the portal since it opened up yesterday, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of them are guys that were highly regarded freshmen to

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<v Speaker 4>an extent that just couldn't get on the floor a

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<v Speaker 4>whole lot early on. And it doesn't mean they're bad,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just because that's hard to do now because so

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<v Speaker 4>many older players stick around and play college basketball. So

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<v Speaker 4>But it won't shock me if over time we get there.

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<v Speaker 4>And what I mean is that the everybody but the

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<v Speaker 4>top tier of high school recruits, not everybody, but the

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<v Speaker 4>majority of them start to just understand the path for

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<v Speaker 4>me to get to a to get to a program

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<v Speaker 4>where I'm a factor and I'm playing, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>the sweet sixteen. For teams like Duke, Texas Tech, Arkansas, Michigan, State, Kentucky, Tennessee, Auburn, Purdue, Houston.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you want to see yourself as a

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<v Speaker 4>impact player at a place like that, Again, there's different

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<v Speaker 4>paths to do it, but I kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 4>if you look at the guys that are there now,

421
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<v Speaker 4>like you may be better off start and low level

422
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<v Speaker 4>and then and honestly, this is what's gonna this is

423
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<v Speaker 4>what's got to drive's what got to drive coaches crazy.

424
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<v Speaker 4>Is that like you could be the school that finds,

425
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<v Speaker 4>you know, that gets the kid from the low level

426
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<v Speaker 4>D one that jumps up as a sophomore after average

427
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<v Speaker 4>and twenty a game as a freshman, but then like

428
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<v Speaker 4>if he doesn't work out or you know, maybe money's

429
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<v Speaker 4>not where at where you needed to be, they go elsewhere.

430
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, are there's we've now hit a point where

431
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<v Speaker 4>guys entering the portal today and yesterday, and I'm sure

432
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<v Speaker 4>there'll be hundreds of more that do it. You can

433
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<v Speaker 4>absolutely play four for four, Like there's guys that are

434
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<v Speaker 4>going to be playing four years at four different schools

435
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<v Speaker 4>and that's I think that'll still be the exception, but

436
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, maybe not. So Again, what I feel

437
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<v Speaker 4>bad about is you know, those lower level schools like

438
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<v Speaker 4>this is going to be nearly impossible for them to really,

439
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<v Speaker 4>you know, thrive with any sustainability, because the second you

440
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<v Speaker 4>become really good at a at a mid major type program,

441
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<v Speaker 4>I mean that all that is is just inviting. I

442
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<v Speaker 4>mean it's bringing attention to where there's going to be

443
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<v Speaker 4>tampering and those players are going to be influenced to

444
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<v Speaker 4>potentially leave. And I just think your best bet, easier

445
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<v Speaker 4>said than done, is just embrace it and start and

446
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<v Speaker 4>start realizing, Okay, we may be the schools that have

447
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<v Speaker 4>more turnover than anybody, but that could be a good thing.

448
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<v Speaker 4>It's because if everybody wants our guys. You know, if

449
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<v Speaker 4>every year we're losing our top three players to the

450
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<v Speaker 4>Power Power five, it's probably because we're doing something good

451
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<v Speaker 4>and you're just gonna have to.

452
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<v Speaker 2>Reload and reload.

453
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<v Speaker 4>And I think if you show the ability as a

454
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<v Speaker 4>coach to do that consistently, then I think that would

455
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<v Speaker 4>make you more attractive to other jobs out there. Right Hey,

456
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<v Speaker 4>this person, man, they're already having to deal with this

457
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<v Speaker 4>reset every year and managing different personalities, different egos every

458
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<v Speaker 4>single season.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you know.

460
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<v Speaker 4>That's always going to be the case in college basketball overall.

461
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<v Speaker 4>But if you're at a top job or a better job,

462
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<v Speaker 4>you'll have better resources to potentially keep players that are successful, right,

463
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<v Speaker 4>You'll have money to give them through anil that kind

464
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<v Speaker 4>of stuff. So anyways, I don't want to I didn't

465
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<v Speaker 4>want to nerd out too much on just where we

466
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<v Speaker 4>are here in college hoops. But it is fascinating to see,

467
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<v Speaker 4>and that's all of all the different facts and stats

468
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<v Speaker 4>that have been shared, to see where every starter in

469
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<v Speaker 4>the sweet sixteen started their career compared to where they

470
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<v Speaker 4>are today. I mean that to me is the best

471
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<v Speaker 4>visual as far as don't think that you can't have

472
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<v Speaker 4>success by going and getting guys that started their career where.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Their games weren't on TV.

474
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<v Speaker 4>They were on ESPN Plus or something like that, or

475
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<v Speaker 4>or was it we were talking about yesterday flow Sports

476
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<v Speaker 4>whatever that network was that was airon CBI games yesterday.

477
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<v Speaker 4>I avoided trying to look for that. I'd have been

478
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<v Speaker 4>a real junkie. At least I have felt like one.

479
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<v Speaker 4>If I'm out here trying to find an online illegal

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<v Speaker 4>fee to watch the CBI First Round games in Daytona

481
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<v Speaker 4>Beach on something called flow Sports but anyways, quick Break

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<v Speaker 4>will come back, keep it rolling long, taking you up

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<v Speaker 4>want to text in on the Ellen and Federal Credit

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<v Speaker 4>Union text line. This text says, Nick, I think the

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<v Speaker 4>more that we bring up the things that Kenny Payne

501
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<v Speaker 4>said makes those that hired him look even more foolish.

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<v Speaker 4>He never even told us he wanted to win, or

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<v Speaker 4>that he was going to win. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>agree with you as far as like looking foolish, and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you're right, it's just I have a hard time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really two things. I have a hard time being

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<v Speaker 4>so over the top critical about making the decision to

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<v Speaker 4>hire him because from you know, from my perspective, and

509
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<v Speaker 4>again I'm I'm not qualified to hire a coach. There's

510
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<v Speaker 4>so much that goes into it that I don't know. However,

511
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<v Speaker 4>I would have done the same thing, just you know,

512
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<v Speaker 4>given who else was out there that was apparently in

513
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<v Speaker 4>the mix board at the time, and I was willing

514
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<v Speaker 4>to just accept, you know, we don't need to go

515
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<v Speaker 4>down that path.

516
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<v Speaker 2>But you know, the.

517
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<v Speaker 4>Scenario where it worked out, I mean, all the things

518
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<v Speaker 4>that you thought made up for the fact that he'd

519
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<v Speaker 4>never been a head coach clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think there's ever been a coach

521
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<v Speaker 2>that didn't get.

522
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<v Speaker 4>The job here at Louisville more than him, and he

523
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<v Speaker 4>played here, So you know, yes, and no, I don't

524
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<v Speaker 4>mean I don't think anybody's looking back thinking that, you know,

525
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<v Speaker 4>Like I mean, again, if you if you still have

526
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<v Speaker 4>issues with it in the contract, because in the contract

527
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<v Speaker 4>was something that I've never understood. But again, I'm willing

528
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<v Speaker 4>to admit I don't have a clue how that works.

529
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what you have to do in order to,

531
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<v Speaker 4>you know, to get him here. But him getting the

532
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<v Speaker 4>contract he got after never being a head coach and

533
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<v Speaker 4>having that kind of a buy out, that just seems insane.

534
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<v Speaker 4>But again, I'm sure there's more to it, I'll than

535
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<v Speaker 4>I'll ever know. But yeah, you to your point. He

536
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<v Speaker 4>never told us he was gonna win, right, He just

537
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<v Speaker 4>wanted to buy time and tell us about how broken

538
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<v Speaker 4>things were and that it's gonna you know, it's gonna

539
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<v Speaker 4>be a process and culture and all this and that.

540
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<v Speaker 4>And we guess we just didn't listen to him. Maybe

541
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<v Speaker 4>we just thought he was, you know, doing coach speak.

542
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<v Speaker 4>But coach speak this day and age is a little

543
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<v Speaker 4>different than it used to be. And if you're wondering

544
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<v Speaker 4>why that came up, Will Wade at his press conferences,

545
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<v Speaker 4>he's introduced as the next head coach at NC State.

546
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<v Speaker 4>You know, he said, we're gonna you know, this is

547
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<v Speaker 4>not a rebuild. We're gonna compete in the top half

548
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<v Speaker 4>of the ACC We're gonna be the NCAA tournament we're

549
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<v Speaker 4>gonna win. I mean, that's what he said from the jump,

550
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<v Speaker 4>and that's really what Pat Kelsey said, to be honest

551
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<v Speaker 4>with you. I don't think he was out there claiming

552
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<v Speaker 4>this and that as far as where you'll finish in

553
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<v Speaker 4>the league and making the NCAA tournament. But I mean,

554
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<v Speaker 4>bet Kelsey clearly showed up here with a real confidence

555
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<v Speaker 4>in his formula as far as how to be successful

556
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<v Speaker 4>and win as a college basketball coach, and so far

557
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<v Speaker 4>he's been able to deliver on that. And I don't think,

558
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<v Speaker 4>you know, the days of really just selling low acting

559
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<v Speaker 4>as if man, it's going to be really tough.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see. We're not even really worried about how many

561
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<v Speaker 2>games we win. We just trying to get better. I mean,

562
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

563
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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like the aspect of college sports that

564
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<v Speaker 4>is now professional like that's just lame to do. And

565
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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's a good thing for anybody in

566
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<v Speaker 4>any way, right, Like, you want to win, you want

567
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<v Speaker 4>to compete, and the quick ability to bounce back from

568
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 4>a bad season or whatever is there for everybody. So

569
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<v Speaker 4>any coach out there using the platform to try to

570
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.599
<v Speaker 4>buy time to win, that's just I think that's a

571
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<v Speaker 4>foolish way to go about it.

572
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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about the Louisville Men's Clinic.

573
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<v Speaker 4>Fellas, You're foolish if you don't at least give them

574
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<v Speaker 4>a chance to see if they can help you.

575
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<v Speaker 2>They helped me.

576
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<v Speaker 4>For years, I didn't know that I needed help, but

577
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<v Speaker 4>then I learned, Okay, maybe low testosterone is why I've

578
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<v Speaker 4>lost my edge and why I'm no longer getting the

579
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<v Speaker 4>same results that I used to get at the gym.

580
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<v Speaker 4>Maybe the man boobs are a product of that. Maybe

581
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<v Speaker 4>you know the flab in the mid section. I mean,

582
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 4>part of me just said, well, hey, that's you know,

583
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<v Speaker 4>your metabolism is changing. You're not twenty three and you're

584
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<v Speaker 4>more year thirty three. But what I didn't realize is

585
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 4>that you lose testosteron the older you get. And when

586
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 4>you get a little bit older, you know, in your

587
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 4>mid to late thirties, you start to lose it a

588
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.440
<v Speaker 4>little bit more each and every year, and it can

589
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 4>have an impact on you, and it did on me,

590
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.160
<v Speaker 4>and I just the reason this is such a natural

591
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 4>endorsement for me is because one it's real, and I've

592
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<v Speaker 4>never promoted a product or a service that I don't

593
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<v Speaker 4>feel strongly about And there's a reason why we've had

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<v Speaker 4>partners that have been around for many, many years, because

595
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<v Speaker 4>that's how that's how it works. Man's got to be

596
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:02.440
<v Speaker 4>something genuine people can sense if you're BS and or

597
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<v Speaker 4>not right at least I think they can. So it

598
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<v Speaker 4>wasn't just that they helped me, but I know that

599
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<v Speaker 4>there are others out there in my age range that

600
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<v Speaker 4>have probably never even thought about do I have a

601
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<v Speaker 4>low testosterone because they probably think it has something to

602
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:21.880
<v Speaker 4>do with your you know, with your sexual experience, and

603
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.200
<v Speaker 4>it's not. I mean, it can it can decrease the

604
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 4>sex drive if you don't have testosterone levels where they

605
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 4>need to be, and that's not a good thing, right,

606
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<v Speaker 4>So I mean, again, I know, I know, I'm sure

607
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<v Speaker 4>this is a small group, but I can't be the

608
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<v Speaker 4>only one who just kind of assuming people would talk

609
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<v Speaker 4>about low T and ED that they were kind of

610
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<v Speaker 4>talking about the same thing and they're not at all.

611
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<v Speaker 4>But if you do have ED, I'm sure you know

612
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<v Speaker 4>about it. That's probably not something you can you can

613
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<v Speaker 4>run from. You may want to be you know, you

614
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<v Speaker 4>may be in denial, but they can help you. So again,

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<v Speaker 4>Louisvill Men's Clinic dot Com is the website Fibo two

616
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<v Speaker 4>four four four four thousand is the number when it

617
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<v Speaker 4>comes to a rectile dysfunction, low testosterone, weight loss, there

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<v Speaker 4>be hair restoration. They can help you fellas again Louisville

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<v Speaker 4>men Clinic dot Com. I went to the gym today,

620
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<v Speaker 4>first time I've been in about a week. Nice to

621
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<v Speaker 4>break a sweat again and get and get the you know,

622
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:12.799
<v Speaker 4>get the get the juices going. And it hit me

623
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<v Speaker 4>whenever I was leaving the gym today, Oh yeah, I'm

624
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<v Speaker 4>on vacation next week. I'm I'm gonna be I'm gonna

625
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<v Speaker 4>be in Florida. And I don't even know if I've

626
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<v Speaker 4>told you that, Austin. No, now you know, so uh awesome. Yeah,

627
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<v Speaker 4>well it it works out well because I just gets,

628
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I get so caught up in this time

629
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<v Speaker 4>of year and really the build up to it, because

630
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<v Speaker 4>to me, my calendar years are not January to December.

631
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<v Speaker 4>It's more so like I'm you know, I'm in season.

632
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<v Speaker 4>I'm on if you will when it comes to football

633
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 4>starting until about derby time and then you know, the

634
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<v Speaker 4>off season for me is the spring and summer months

635
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 4>as we wait for football, right, so because you know

636
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:53.599
<v Speaker 4>the climax was building, right, we're about to get to

637
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.519
<v Speaker 4>March madness. Yeah, it just it absorbed me for the

638
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<v Speaker 4>last few weeks, especially with Louisville being a part of

639
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<v Speaker 4>it again, to where I kind of forgot that I

640
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 4>put in, you know, many months ago, that I was

641
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.000
<v Speaker 4>going to be off next week for spring break.

642
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>It's good timing, yeah, And it's.

643
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like there's a level of spontaneousness to it,

644
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 4>right because like I hadn't been thinking about it. Usually

645
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 4>if you're waiting for vacation, you're you're waiting, and it's

646
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know.

647
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>It's going by the summer months.

648
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 4>It's going by super slow, right, Like you know you're thinking,

649
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 4>oh my gosh, I still got a month to go

650
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:24.319
<v Speaker 4>before I get to go to a beach. But for me,

651
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 4>now it's here and I'm scrambling to make sure I,

652
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, get everything in order before I get out

653
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 4>of town.

654
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>That's good, You've earned it. I well, I appreciate that.

655
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 4>And I get out of town and we're going to

656
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Navarre Beach, which I've never been before. It's relatively close

657
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.079
<v Speaker 4>to Destin. I think, which I'm very familiar with. So,

658
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 4>but we are driving, and that scares me because yeah,

659
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 4>we're driving and you know, like eleven hours, ten eleven hours,

660
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.240
<v Speaker 4>I think close to ten. But we'll like on the

661
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.119
<v Speaker 4>way there, we plan to split it up because I

662
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<v Speaker 4>mean driving, and even if I was by myself, I'm

663
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<v Speaker 4>not somebody that would look forward to in a ten

664
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<v Speaker 4>to eleven hour drive, Like to me, that would be awful.

665
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 4>Uh So, I mean I could do it, but like,

666
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, if I could split it up and still

667
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 4>have a fun experience traveling, That's what I'll do. So

668
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 4>we planned on leaving early Saturday morning and stopping you know,

669
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 4>and like I think Birmingham has like a really well

670
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 4>known zoo, so we were going to stop there. That

671
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.319
<v Speaker 4>sounds fun and go to the zoo with the kids

672
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 4>and then get up Sunday morning and and you know,

673
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 4>bright and early and get there and check in. But

674
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 4>my wife, you know, she's a hard ass, She's already thinking, well,

675
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 4>I think we should we get up there this early.

676
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 4>We can just probably go all the way there. We're

677
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.480
<v Speaker 4>meeting a bunch of friends, so like there's a huge

678
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 4>group of us going with with all of our kids,

679
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 4>so that'll, you know.

680
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>So, but I just may leave a day early.

681
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 4>Just she's always got confidence. God bless her that. I

682
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.880
<v Speaker 4>just don't know why she has confidence and when what

683
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about is she's like confident that we're not

684
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 4>gonna have issues with screaming kids in the car.

685
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 2>And you know from my form, my son, you know.

686
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 4>He'll he'll he'll be okay, he'll get lost in his tablet.

687
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.640
<v Speaker 4>But even then, you know, Moose gets restless and he'll

688
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 4>get to wine in I mean, I sometimes forget that

689
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 4>he's still a four year old because he only a

690
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:07.839
<v Speaker 4>lot of his cousins and a lot of my friend's

691
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.880
<v Speaker 4>kids that he hangs out with, they're all like seven eight,

692
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 4>and I kind of just lump everybody together in the

693
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.359
<v Speaker 4>kid range. But like there's a big difference in being

694
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.079
<v Speaker 4>a four year old and being a seven year old, right,

695
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 4>so you know, he does kind of wine sometimes and

696
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 4>act like a baby more so than his cousins and

697
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:23.720
<v Speaker 4>his and his peers and friends, because you know what,

698
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 4>they're a lot older than him.

699
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, he'll be fine.

700
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:29.759
<v Speaker 4>But like my daughter, she's she's autistic and intellectually disabled,

701
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 4>So longer car rides where she's just you know, I mean,

702
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 4>if we can get her a sleep, that'd be great.

703
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.079
<v Speaker 4>But like we're gonna have to break the trip up.

704
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 4>So sure, now I'm stressing about the travel down there.

705
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 2>If she's gonna be.

706
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 4>Hard headed and say nope, we're going all the way,

707
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be like, come on, we should stop, Like

708
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 4>we should stop because.

709
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Like you got to meet me in the middle.

710
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Speaker 4>I yes, exactly, because here's here's my line, and I'm

711
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 4>gonna deliver that. I think will will will get me

712
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 4>to a point that she'll understand like, yeah, you're right.

713
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Like the line in your TikTok, it's always a good

714
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.319
<v Speaker 2>one to drop. Yeah, I may not. I may not

715
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>not for this case.

716
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not for this case. But it's always there. If

717
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's always holistered, it's always there, and it's

718
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 4>always one little surpriser. But if we go, if we

719
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 4>drive all the way there and we and we make

720
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 4>it a long long drive because I mean any drive

721
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.519
<v Speaker 4>with kids, even if they're well behaved, I mean, they're

722
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:25.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna stop the pee, they're gonna want to eat, So

723
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:26.239
<v Speaker 4>like we're gonna have some stops.

724
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>So long they're gonna be trapped inside the vehicle.

725
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 4>So let's say a ten hour drive turns into eleven

726
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 4>to eleven and a half just because of our stops

727
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 4>and whatnot. And even with that, I mean, there's no

728
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:41.239
<v Speaker 4>scenario like it's a perfect trip to where we aren't restless.

729
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I hope my kids will be perfect, but

730
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 4>I just know that's not reality. That's not reality. So like,

731
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to arrive on no rest. You know,

732
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.320
<v Speaker 4>been in the car since four am. We're all sick

733
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.480
<v Speaker 4>of each other. Like there's nothing worse than a arriving

734
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 4>to vacation, getting there and being in a bad mood

735
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.360
<v Speaker 4>because the travel experience sucked, your flight was delayed, all

736
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff. So I just I I'd rather

737
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 4>stop and have a night.

738
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Before we get there. But you should pitch that.

739
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.159
<v Speaker 4>I usually I'm gonna I'm gonna try to, but you know,

740
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 4>oftentimes she gets her way, and that's probably best for everybody.

741
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>What's the longest that you've you've driven in a car? Man,

742
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 2>straight through.

743
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 4>Probably probably like New York City? I mean, how far

744
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 4>is that of a drive? I feel like that's the furthest.

745
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 5>But I don't think that that's somewhere around like maybe

746
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 5>fourteen hours. I'm gonna go around and say fourteen to

747
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 5>fifteen hour drive from here.

748
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not that far, not that far, No, I mean,

749
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>this is me twelve.

750
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying, so New York to Louisville as far as

751
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.079
<v Speaker 4>drive and this is just a quick Google search eleven

752
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.199
<v Speaker 4>hours and fifty five minutes, Okay, So I would say

753
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 4>that's probably the furthest. However I've gone to. Yeah, that's

754
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 4>the furthest because I've I have driven to. I have

755
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 4>family that lives in Arkansas, and that's a really long

756
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 4>drive as well. But I don't think it's quite quite

757
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.760
<v Speaker 4>twelve hours. Yeah, I mean, so let's see. Yeah, never mind,

758
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 4>it's easily in New York City. And that kind of

759
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 4>makes me realize I haven't actually done the real road

760
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:14.960
<v Speaker 4>trip that I want to do, because I've always loved

761
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:16.440
<v Speaker 4>the thought of being able to just get in the

762
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.599
<v Speaker 4>car and driving, not necessarily with no destination in mind,

763
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 4>but just you know, cross country kind of thing, not

764
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:25.639
<v Speaker 4>to where we're you know, and it's not about spending

765
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 4>a ton of time in the car. It's about doing

766
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 4>like five hours this day, six hours the next day

767
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.360
<v Speaker 4>and just kind of stopping where you end up and

768
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.119
<v Speaker 4>experiencing whatever is there.

769
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you said road trip, Yes.

770
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 4>Something about like a spontaneous road trip like that is

771
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:43.079
<v Speaker 4>something I'll always always want to do, but try to

772
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.760
<v Speaker 4>do for my thirtieth birthday, wife talked me out of it.

773
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.639
<v Speaker 4>Now I'm going to be thirty seven. I mean, i

774
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:51.440
<v Speaker 4>gotta do it at some point or I'm gonna yeah,

775
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 4>or I'm gonna get old enough to where it's no

776
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:54.559
<v Speaker 4>longer going to seem cool to me. Right, I'm gonna

777
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 4>think now I'm too old.

778
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>For that now. I think as you get older, you'll

779
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>want to keep doing it more. Yeah, and they'll be more.

780
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.199
<v Speaker 4>It'll be more of something that I've just built up

781
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:04.360
<v Speaker 4>to where like, all right, you got to do it.

782
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 5>And then you'll really get into your like you'll develop

783
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.920
<v Speaker 5>into the final boss dad stage and say that you

784
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 5>we we need to get an RV and that's yeah,

785
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 5>and then you start thinking about it. Then you start

786
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 5>going to the boat and RV show, well, RV life, huh,

787
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.039
<v Speaker 5>and then you like or a little camper like, hey,

788
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 5>maybe we could do so.

789
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>My stepdad used to do that all the time.

790
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.199
<v Speaker 4>So like, think about the dad that is playing you

791
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 4>know a guy that's playing the dad in the r

792
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 4>V commercial. Yes, all the stuff you see him doing.

793
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:34.440
<v Speaker 4>I can't do any of that. I'm not on the grill.

794
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm not you know, I'm not building. I'm not building

795
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 4>the campfire where we set up the RV. I mean

796
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 4>either I'm glamp life. You know what I'm saying. Glamp life.

797
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Maybe if you press a button and all of that

798
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 2>just happens.

799
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I'm sure with the with the latest technology

800
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.519
<v Speaker 4>and the new RVs that we're just here at the

801
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 4>boat and RV show.

802
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, sweet, Sure there's just buttons you hit and

803
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>it sets it up for you.

804
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, pretty sweet. Quick break, We got to take a time.

805
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:58.400
<v Speaker 4>I will come back a lot more to get into

806
00:37:58.440 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 4>before we get out of here at six o'clock. I mean,

807
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 4>all kinds of names that you're probably familiar with, their

808
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.039
<v Speaker 4>hitting the transfer portal. Another player that has some strong

809
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey connections that's available.

810
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:08.840
<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk a.

811
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 4>Lot about that and more as we get said for

812
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 4>the Sweet sixteen coming up in just a couple of days.

813
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.440
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814
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815
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

816
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817
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 4>So we do have an update with the Yukon sid

818
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.480
<v Speaker 4>who if you remember, we talked about it yesterday and

819
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it sounded like I was making a bigger

820
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 4>deal of it than it than it needed to be.

821
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:41.599
<v Speaker 4>I just I think the comment made by the Yukon

822
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 4>sid Bobby Mullen telling a reporter he was going to

823
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 4>ruin his life if he didn't delete the video of

824
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 4>Dan Hurley really, you know, showing us that he's Dan Hurley.

825
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just that's insane behavior.

826
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 4>So I guess he ended up realizing that the reporter

827
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.320
<v Speaker 4>who got the video, who's I guess his livelihood was threatened,

828
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:05.639
<v Speaker 4>right He said he was going to ruin his life

829
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 4>if he didn't remove the video. His name is joey

830
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.280
<v Speaker 4>Ellis and he put this out earlier Today's It's just

831
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 4>a quick and hopefully final update. Bobby Mullen and I

832
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 4>spoke a short time ago during which he apologized for

833
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.320
<v Speaker 4>his behavior. I accepted it, and life rolls on. I mean,

834
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm surprised he apologize, to be honest with you, because

835
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to the person that would hold him

836
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:31.360
<v Speaker 4>accountable as far as you know, realizing, Okay, this is

837
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:33.360
<v Speaker 4>probably one of the worst looks as far as just

838
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:35.840
<v Speaker 4>optics that we could have. It would probably be you know,

839
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Dan Hurley, and Dan Hurley probably feels again he's probably

840
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.599
<v Speaker 4>playing victim for Bobby Mullen, like Dan Hurley plays victim

841
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.519
<v Speaker 4>for himself whenever he acts like a lunatic and people,

842
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, react to him acting like a lunatic. So

843
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it'll be you know, it's all in the

844
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.199
<v Speaker 4>past now, but still just something that can't believe happened.

845
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 4>Something else that I've got to be honest, Cannell Leave,

846
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.639
<v Speaker 4>it's happening, but it just sucks. You know. We talked

847
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.679
<v Speaker 4>earlier in the show about just what the new world

848
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 4>of college athletics has done to the lower level. And

849
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:10.679
<v Speaker 4>you have a team that just played an NCAA tournament

850
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 4>last week. In the play in game, Saint Francis, they

851
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.239
<v Speaker 4>fell to Alabama State. Alabama State, if you remember, had

852
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:20.760
<v Speaker 4>that that Latner looking kind of play at the end

853
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:24.119
<v Speaker 4>of their game to hold on and win. Well. Saint Francis,

854
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.400
<v Speaker 4>that was their last game as a Division One team,

855
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 4>because they're now making them move from D one to

856
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:34.199
<v Speaker 4>D three, which that's something you only do if you

857
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:38.559
<v Speaker 4>have to write like that's that's I mean that they can't.

858
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean not alone, Not only can can Saint Francis

859
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 4>not compete with schools when it comes to nil and

860
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 4>just resources in general. I mean when it comes to

861
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.440
<v Speaker 4>revenue sharing. I mean that's going to change their existence, right,

862
00:40:58.119 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean the revenue that they get, what little revenue

863
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 4>they get from whatever league they're in and whatever contract

864
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 4>they have with a network. I mean, you're not going

865
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:07.880
<v Speaker 4>to be able to share twenty million. But like, if

866
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<v Speaker 4>you still want to get players at the Division one level,

867
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 4>you can't tell them, yes, we're going to be one

868
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 4>of the few schools that doesn't share any revenue because

869
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:15.880
<v Speaker 4>again you don't. I don't think you necessarily have to.

870
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 4>You can share up to a certain amount. But anyways,

871
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 4>their athletic director tells Front Office Sports that the school

872
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.039
<v Speaker 4>has been concerned about the student athlete experience for many

873
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 4>years now, and then of course goes on to mention that,

874
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, we're about to have a bigger change than

875
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 4>we've ever had in college sports with the schools actually

876
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.119
<v Speaker 4>paying players directly, not because of performance but just because

877
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 4>of revenue share as far as how much money is

878
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 4>made from college athletics, and really it comes down to

879
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:47.559
<v Speaker 4>football makes a lot of money, Basketball, a handful of

880
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 4>programs generate revenue directly, and then of course college BASKETB

881
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:53.559
<v Speaker 4>the n DOABA makes a ton of money, makes their

882
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 4>money as far as their existence from the n DOAA tournament.

883
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 4>So D three to D one, D one to D three,

884
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.480
<v Speaker 4>that's quite the drop. But you're probably gonna see other

885
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:07.000
<v Speaker 4>schools do the same thing because it's just the changes

886
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 4>have led to them. It's just not it's not a

887
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 4>they're not compatible to be Division one schools anymore. And honestly,

888
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 4>that may be like it may sound like, it may sound.

889
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Sad, and it is, but.

890
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<v Speaker 4>Like Bellerman, like Bellerman to me, was completely fine and

891
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 4>content being D two and then the opportunity presented itself,

892
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.679
<v Speaker 4>and obviously timing was awful for them because they made

893
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 4>the jump and now it's to the point where they're

894
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 4>gonna have a tough time. I mean it's gonna be

895
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 4>tough for them. And had they known where we were

896
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 4>headed with college athletics, I don't think they could have

897
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 4>responsibly made the decision to go to Division one, but

898
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 4>you can still like D one is such as somebody

899
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 4>who dreamed of being a Division and basketball player growing up,

900
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:54.519
<v Speaker 4>and obviously that was that was a dream, not reality

901
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:58.280
<v Speaker 4>by any means. You know, there's there's so many Division

902
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.519
<v Speaker 4>one schools and that that that's such a it's put

903
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 4>up on such a pedestal to get to that level,

904
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.159
<v Speaker 4>which is a special thing. I mean, if you've made

905
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 4>it to being a Division one scholarship player, like that's amazing,

906
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 4>especially in basketball becau it's hard to do. But if

907
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 4>your Division two and you're still getting school paid for,

908
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.519
<v Speaker 4>and maybe you still have some level of nil because

909
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 4>it does exist, it's certainly a smaller number at the

910
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 4>D two level nai all that kind of stuff, like

911
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.960
<v Speaker 4>it may just be better cause again, like what do

912
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 4>you add? I guess the real benefit of being even

913
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 4>the lowest level of D one is to win your

914
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.880
<v Speaker 4>conference tournament and get to be in the tournament, Like

915
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.440
<v Speaker 4>that's such a special thing. But outside of that, like

916
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<v Speaker 4>I just don't know if it's worth it, to be

917
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<v Speaker 4>honest with you, And if you're really good at the

918
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 4>D two level, like you have your own tournament and

919
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's still a great experience, I would imagine.

920
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.519
<v Speaker 4>So it sounds sad to think about, but it may

921
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<v Speaker 4>be better for everybody involved if some of these types

922
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 4>of schools do kind of read the room here as

923
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 4>college athletics is changing so much and just say, look,

924
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.239
<v Speaker 4>we need to be a D two or D three

925
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 4>or maybe an AI. So again I don't think Sain

926
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 4>Francis will be the last one to do it, but

927
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<v Speaker 4>again just they played in the tournament less than a

928
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 4>week ago. Now they're falling back two spots. All right,

929
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<v Speaker 4>quick break, we've got two hours left. We'll get to

930
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<v Speaker 4>the text line coming up here on the other side. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>you can give us a call if you'd like. Five

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