Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome to Rose Pricks. It's what is
Speaker 1: it Friday morning? Hi? Cecily? Hi? Okay, So we're doing
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Orange County and I just have sort
Speaker 1: of a macro note of my mood and my mood
Speaker 1: while watching it. So, you know, I tried to not
Speaker 1: eat sugar, but then when I'm eating it, I'm really
Speaker 1: out of control. Just I understand, just keeping it real.
Speaker 1: So last night, it was one of those nights where
Speaker 1: I was like, I just need something sweet. So I
Speaker 1: went to Trader Joe's and I got some graham crackers
Speaker 1: that have like cinnamon sugar on them, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm going to get some
Speaker 1: of this maple kettle corn, and hell, yes, it's really
Speaker 1: really delicious. I highly recommend it if you're not compulsive
Speaker 1: like me, because I just kept eating it and eating
Speaker 1: it and eating it until I'd eat in the whole bag.
Speaker 1: And then I was a sugar monster. Like I was
Speaker 1: in the worst mood. I was pissed off, gotten a
Speaker 1: little argument with my husband about that. It was keep
Speaker 1: kind of my fault. No about the Real Housewives. He
Speaker 1: loves Gina. No, No, just I was I was edgy
Speaker 1: and he, you know, it was one of those stupid
Speaker 1: things that normally I wouldn't have cared. That was, you know,
Speaker 1: about something that he that he didn't know about what
Speaker 1: time our kids had to be at school this morning,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you would know if you got
Speaker 1: the emails, and I was just I was kind of
Speaker 1: a bitch. And it was because I blame maple kettle
Speaker 1: corn and my addiction and my need to eat the
Speaker 1: entire bag. So just know that that was clouding my
Speaker 1: attitude while taking notes on this show that is so
Speaker 1: interesting and we have we've talked about this, but we
Speaker 1: have kind of different Your thing is like sugary stuff
Speaker 1: and mine is salty stuff. So Trader Joe's first of all,
Speaker 1: Today's show is sponsored by Trader Joe's and Maple Little Corn.
Speaker 2: Actually that would be a pretty good plug. Like whatever
Speaker 2: they're doing at Trader Joe's, they make everything so freaking
Speaker 2: delicious that it's like it's talked about. There's whole threads
Speaker 2: about it, like it's a thing. I don't know why
Speaker 2: it's better, but it is. It's just like, so my
Speaker 2: stuff is like savory. So if I buy chips or whatever,
Speaker 2: and I mean like a family sized bag of chips,
Speaker 2: it's gone. It's gone in the day. Anything that's like salty, Well,
Speaker 2: the fact.
Speaker 1: That you said it's gone in a day, mine has
Speaker 1: gone in forty five minutes, Well, I would say for
Speaker 1: me too.
Speaker 2: If I'm watching something, I just sometimes I try to
Speaker 2: trick myself and I pour it a little in a
Speaker 2: bowl and then like pamp it and put it back.
Speaker 3: And what I.
Speaker 1: Did, Okay, that's exactly what I did. I could take
Speaker 1: a picture. I had a little bowl, and that's what
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought, I'm going to eat this kettle
Speaker 1: corn like a lady, and I'm gonna put a little
Speaker 1: bit in a bowl. And then and then I just
Speaker 1: kept going back, and then that feeling of like knowing
Speaker 1: that the pantry just keeps opening and shutting and going like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure John is just like what is she doing?
Speaker 1: Like why does she keep And in my mind I
Speaker 1: was like John's probably thinking why not just take the bag?
Speaker 1: So then I was like, you know what, He's right
Speaker 1: in my imagination, and I am going to just take
Speaker 1: the bag. And then I brought that and that was
Speaker 1: a big mistake because then I finished it, all of
Speaker 1: it and was feeling sick while I was eating it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I do that too. I hunt You're not alone.
Speaker 2: I would tell you honestly, like ninety nine percent of
Speaker 2: the people listening have this.
Speaker 1: And it's and if there's a Trader Joe's nearby, you're
Speaker 1: just you're fucked. Yeah. Yeah, there's a Trader Joe's blocks
Speaker 1: from my house. It's not your fault. I'm hugging you
Speaker 1: right now with a big sweater. So I was getting
Speaker 1: very upset at some of these ladies. And but you
Speaker 1: and I are going to have a different take, which
Speaker 1: is exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have a very different take. It's it's shocking,
Speaker 2: but I do have a macro positive note. Okay, I
Speaker 2: remember the first time I ever saw anybody wearing black
Speaker 2: nail polish, and it was Housewives OC.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: Say, oh, way back, maybe it was like the OC
Speaker 2: that show. One of it had something to do with
Speaker 2: Orange County and I'd never seen it before, and I
Speaker 2: thought it.
Speaker 1: Was And I'm not talking like back in.
Speaker 2: The day in the eighties where you'd have like black
Speaker 2: goth make where it's kind of chipped.
Speaker 1: Huh, that's different.
Speaker 2: I mean, like an actual manicure with black nails that
Speaker 2: weren't super long.
Speaker 1: I thought that was the coolest look. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: still loving that they brought it back. I like that
Speaker 1: they brought it back in this episode. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: do have another little tidbit for you. You've probably already heard
Speaker 1: this because you're also on the Reddit as I am.
Speaker 1: But did you know or am I breaking a news
Speaker 1: story to you that Jim Belino is dating Elizabeth Vargas.
Speaker 1: Yes see, that is just hilarious. So Elizabeth Vargas obviously
Speaker 1: trying to get back on the show, She's like that
Speaker 1: page out of Alexis.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, take that hold my beer? Yeah, I know
Speaker 2: that's so hacky to say. Now, can we just can
Speaker 2: tire hold my beer and welp? Because you know, I've
Speaker 2: never been a fan of WELP. I hate it. I
Speaker 2: hate when people say welp. Like it like how you
Speaker 2: were feeling with on the Sugar Monster high. That's how
Speaker 2: I feel when people say, well, well help welp. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: let's let's let's agree not to do that. But I'm
Speaker 2: not mad that you said hold my beer because sometimes
Speaker 2: that's that's a good Sometimes stuff comes into your mind
Speaker 2: because you're like, yeah, that is a good description of
Speaker 2: what's happening. Right, you think you're gonna, but nobody wants Jim.
Speaker 2: No one's gonna. I would take John Jansen over Jim
Speaker 2: any day.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh that's a good one, Jim, John Jansen
Speaker 1: or Ryan or Brooks? Mary kill? Oh, let's do Brooks
Speaker 1: Jim Jansen. Okay, now you have to do it because
Speaker 1: you were going to give me one that was too easy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, so I have to do it, all right, Jim.
Speaker 2: I think I sleep with I sleep with John Jansen.
Speaker 2: He's an attractive man. He's not bad, right, I kill?
Speaker 2: Oh God, I can't marry Brooks. No, no, no, you can't.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Oh no, my heavens. Do you marry
Speaker 2: Jim then, absolutely not. He's the worst of them. I
Speaker 2: have to I have to meme him. Okay, but I
Speaker 2: can't marry Brooks.
Speaker 1: No, he'd take all your money.
Speaker 2: But so with John Jansen, well, he'd do a promisory note.
Speaker 2: I guess I would marry John. I guess i'd have
Speaker 2: to marry John, and i'd have to sleep with Brooks.
Speaker 2: And he would say things.
Speaker 1: Like I'm filling up your love tank O feel is
Speaker 1: your love tank Field up. I got a little nauseous feeling.
Speaker 1: I know that was too bad. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: I sew up in my mouth a little bit, because
Speaker 1: that isn't even more haacky. That's so hackey.
Speaker 3: And you still see it all the time, like IPEd
Speaker 3: a little literally you're like Tig used to have a
Speaker 3: joke our friend Tig comedian had a great joke along
Speaker 3: like probably fifteen years ago where she's like, I hear
Speaker 3: a lot of people saying like I threw up in
Speaker 3: my mouth or I peed myself and she's like, you
Speaker 3: should get that looked at.
Speaker 1: That's not not really that normal. Yeah, we have to Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got to retire some stuff. Yeah, but you know what,
Speaker 1: we don't need to retire. Well, I was going to
Speaker 1: say this show, even though probably should be retired. If
Speaker 1: Jim Shows gets himself back on the show, we're not watching.
Speaker 1: Oh I can't do that would be crazy. I think
Speaker 1: that is funny though, Okay, actually it would be funny
Speaker 1: with Alexis, like watching her, but she'd be so happy
Speaker 1: with John it doesn't matter, I know, but it would
Speaker 1: make a good like little chain, like a little toxic chain. Mm. Hmm,
Speaker 1: so okay, we're in London or still in London at
Speaker 1: the Mayfair. Yeah, were you noticing a lot of different
Speaker 1: shifts of like who's friends with who? All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like suddenly, suddenly Katie and Heather are paling around together
Speaker 1: and it's basically process of elimination because they can't be
Speaker 1: with some of the other people. It's just interesting. Emily
Speaker 1: and Shannon are eating breakfast and it's they're trying to
Speaker 1: be Emily who gets so mad now? Right? She hurt.
Speaker 1: She created a whole storyline about oh my god, everybody
Speaker 1: still sees me as the big girl. But then she's like,
Speaker 1: I love Mayo on everything, and yeah, talk about the
Speaker 1: sugar monster. My god, she is just all up. That's
Speaker 1: like her her thing, like the HOGI at the spa, right,
Speaker 1: and then but she can't own it and like now
Speaker 1: she's bringing it up for no reason later in the episode,
Speaker 1: like she gets mad for nothing, right, But it's like
Speaker 1: the Martini. She gets mad when she gets a little
Speaker 1: big girl Martini. I need big. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: I'm a big girl. Which is it? Which exactly own
Speaker 1: it or don't? She does this thing? So Shannon's being annoying.
Speaker 2: They're having breakfast and Shannon's like she does she Shannon's
Speaker 2: one of those people that's like gonna pout until you
Speaker 2: ask her what's wrong. Yes, so she's probably sighing, really,
Speaker 2: but she's like, so, Emily's finally like what, don't be sad?
Speaker 1: Don't yet like it? But to be fair, Shannon's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I just had like a screaming match with everyone from
Speaker 1: the cast last night. Yes, you know, I'll give her that,
Speaker 1: so it yes, So She's like, why are you upset?
Speaker 1: She goes, well, I just wanted it to be fun
Speaker 1: last night. It's just you know, but it's like I
Speaker 1: felt a tax slaw. Oh it's hard for me to
Speaker 1: just be like, well I felt attacked last night. But
Speaker 1: let's get on a bus. I'm done explaining. I don't
Speaker 1: need to explain this, especially the Tamra judge. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be a little lot of that bad writing, old
Speaker 1: western h that tamradget that Camra judge. I'll see that
Speaker 1: she gets. Then Katie and Tamra are is that right
Speaker 1: about it? Oh? Yeah? Meanwhile at the spa, is it Katie? Oh?
Speaker 1: Is Katie and Tamra?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about Shannon and having the same
Speaker 2: conversation about Shannon again like struggling also and counting other
Speaker 2: people's money.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I thought you would be annoyed because Katie
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not like other girls. I went back
Speaker 1: to my room last night and ordered pizza. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: she's so cool. Yeah, just like yeah, I got a
Speaker 1: pizza last night, kind of like dead Yeah yeah, but I.
Speaker 2: Hate that they I cannot They are so obsessed with
Speaker 2: how other people.
Speaker 1: Spend their money. Yeah, I hate it. And this is
Speaker 1: going to come up a lot, a lot so yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but they're like, why can't Shannon just like
Speaker 1: sit and talk. She's always storming out. Tamar's like, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get her to take accountability, and
Speaker 1: then there's another flashback of Shannon. Though. I am so
Speaker 1: tired of Shannon and this loan story. It's like, you
Speaker 1: are caught dead to rights. You took a loan from
Speaker 1: John Janssen. Can we just fucking move? Can we just
Speaker 1: can you just be like yeah, you know what? It
Speaker 1: kind of was alone, but I'm pissed and just what
Speaker 1: everyone says, Yes, fuck that guy. He should not have
Speaker 1: asked me for the money back because I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of money on him. Fine, if you want to
Speaker 1: say that. I don't agree with that, because every time
Speaker 1: you spend money on him, you're also spending money on yourself.
Speaker 1: So like, it's not like you bought him things like
Speaker 1: a car and he didn't pay you back, but that
Speaker 1: was a gift. It's like, you can't be like we
Speaker 1: all went out for dinner, me and my kids and
Speaker 1: him and his kids, but like he owes me for that. Well,
Speaker 1: let me say this.
Speaker 2: I didn't I don't usually watch watch what Happens, but
Speaker 2: I did watch a little bit of it.
Speaker 1: Did you see No.
Speaker 2: Danny Wahlberg was on, you know, Donnie Wilberg. This is
Speaker 2: kind of annoying, but I get it. He's he's a Brava,
Speaker 2: he's a brav ofelebrity, and so he was on and
Speaker 2: he was asked like, what did you think of.
Speaker 1: The John Jansen Loan Shannon thing? And he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not speaking for the guy. I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I would just if it were me and I were
Speaker 2: John Janson, I wouldn't even ask for the money back.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, this is my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Here you go.
Speaker 2: I thought that that was a new interesting take. It
Speaker 2: got an applause break because people are listen. Of course,
Speaker 2: she owes him the money so alone, but she.
Speaker 1: Wanted the money for she wanted to buy herself a facelift.
Speaker 1: It's like she's just entiting.
Speaker 2: I know, I agree with you, like also the way
Speaker 2: she's lying about it. But I kind of liked a
Speaker 2: fresh take. We had a fresh take from a guy.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's very chivalrous.
Speaker 1: But chivalrous this is like, Okay, we want rights over
Speaker 1: our own body, but then we want, like men should
Speaker 1: have to pay for my facelift. That should just be
Speaker 1: a gift. I want seventy five thousand dollars and I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to pay him back. Like, no, I.
Speaker 2: Agree with you, of course she should have to pay
Speaker 2: him back. But at the same time, I liked a new,
Speaker 2: fresh take. It was something different. But that's what everybody's
Speaker 2: kind of saying. That's what Shannon. That's not a fresh take.
Speaker 2: That's what Shannon thinks.
Speaker 1: He can't say he's asking for the money back when
Speaker 1: she's been such a great girlfriend and paid for everything.
Speaker 1: Some people believe that. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: It was interesting to hear a guy like this guy
Speaker 2: who's kind of a bro and his thing was sort
Speaker 2: of just like yeah, you know, I mean for me,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't like take her to you know,
Speaker 2: like give her the money.
Speaker 1: He's so rich, just give her the money. Well, so,
Speaker 1: I don't know either of them are great. I mean
Speaker 1: he's horrible. So but he's horrible. And also I don't
Speaker 1: think that she should expect that to be a gift.
Speaker 1: If he agreed, she if it was said as a
Speaker 1: loan at the beginning, which she said, I wish I
Speaker 1: had the money for a facelift, and he said, I
Speaker 1: wish you could get like a low interest loan, and
Speaker 1: then she said, well you have money, that implies you
Speaker 1: can loan it to me, and then when you get
Speaker 1: a promisery note, you can't be mad Like she's just
Speaker 1: so entitled.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I agree agree. I thought it was an
Speaker 2: interesting take that. So then we go over to Gina
Speaker 2: and Jen. We're going to be flipping around a lot.
Speaker 2: They're having the same conversation I feel she feels. Gina
Speaker 2: says to Jen, She's like, I feel like I'm in
Speaker 2: Manhattan again, just because they're inside.
Speaker 1: In what way is that Manhattan that you have at
Speaker 1: your feet in the pool of something.
Speaker 2: That's nothing like it made no sense, Like, no, you're
Speaker 2: in another city, right, it's so very London, right. I
Speaker 2: was at these I was getting so triggered because like,
Speaker 2: they don't deserve this city, They don't deserve these fun trips.
Speaker 1: No, they don't, You're right. Ah. So then so yeah,
Speaker 1: Gina's like, Sannon showed me the text message from years
Speaker 1: ago that literally specifically said we will be suing you,
Speaker 1: and nobody's heard about it. So now I know Shannon
Speaker 1: is telling the truth about that one thing, not about
Speaker 1: the loan with John Jansen. That's the same as Shennon's
Speaker 1: deflecting everything onto this other shit exactly. So then Jess's
Speaker 1: your point, So that Jenn's like, uh yeah, like Tama
Speaker 1: lives for receipts, she'd rather ignore the lawsuit info so
Speaker 1: she can focus on taking down Shannon with Alexis, so
Speaker 1: they're trying, they're really going to try to come for
Speaker 1: Tamera mm hm, and have they there's like stuff brewing.
Speaker 1: So you before we started recording, you said you felt
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of back and forth. I said,
Speaker 1: I liked this episode only because it and if it
Speaker 1: wasn't like I don't see it as real women arguing.
Speaker 1: I see it as a TV show, which is almost
Speaker 1: like if I'm watching Traders or something. It's like it's
Speaker 1: just interesting to see all the behind like how they're
Speaker 1: all like, okay, we three, we're gonna plot this, what
Speaker 1: we're gonna take down this person. It's so gross but
Speaker 1: interesting to.
Speaker 2: Watch it is, well, okay, So at this point, Heather
Speaker 2: comes up to talk to Shannon, you know, she's Shannon's
Speaker 2: with Emily. Heather comes in and Shannon's match. She thinks
Speaker 2: this is a good time. Heather's here, let me just
Speaker 2: tell her like she's pissed her.
Speaker 1: Well, Heather's coming in trying to be like, you know,
Speaker 1: Heather is one of those people that is like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, yes we have this huge fight, but hi,
Speaker 1: new day, how are you. Then Heather goes, I don't
Speaker 1: love how things were left last night.
Speaker 2: Right, So Shannon's mac She's like, I told you my
Speaker 2: story and you told people and so Heather. I was
Speaker 2: with Heather on this one because she's like, I think
Speaker 2: this was a confessional, but she's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: everyone knew the story already.
Speaker 1: She'd already told camera. I already knew about it. But also,
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room is that Shannon. I don't
Speaker 1: know how fucking dumb she is. She's like, Heather, I'm
Speaker 1: blown away that about what you said that you brought
Speaker 1: it up last night. You and I had a conversation
Speaker 1: that this was the year of rebuilding trust and then
Speaker 1: I told you something in confidence and Sonoma that needed
Speaker 1: to stay between us. It's like you were being filmed, right, yes,
Speaker 1: very good. Tell me that's the elephant in the room.
Speaker 1: It's like, how do you how are you going to
Speaker 1: keep saying this was a secret when you cameras were
Speaker 1: in your face. It's not like it was hidden camera.
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. So how about that? How's
Speaker 1: that Heather's fault?
Speaker 2: I'll push back a little though. Heather did a really
Speaker 2: good acting job on that. That's the first time that's
Speaker 2: been said. Just kidding. She's great her IMDb page, I'm
Speaker 2: such a great actress. But she and I've turned on Heather.
Speaker 2: You know, I love Heather. I have loved her like
Speaker 2: every season. I feel like I understand her. No, I'm
Speaker 2: starting to see the true colors. I don't think she's
Speaker 2: Tamra terrible, but you are the company you keep. And
Speaker 2: I do not understand how she can be friends with
Speaker 2: Tamra and Alexis. That's telling me something.
Speaker 1: The way she.
Speaker 2: Treats people in little ways that she talks to waiters,
Speaker 2: and I don't like her. She's no good. This is sorry,
Speaker 2: I got I got riled up. Heather sort of embodied me.
Speaker 2: We did a body switch.
Speaker 1: She just makes me mad.
Speaker 2: And then so she did this acting job when they
Speaker 2: when Shannon told her, like, look at this, my face
Speaker 2: is so beat up? How did John Jansen not hear this?
Speaker 2: And Heather's like, so if Heather's trying to tell us
Speaker 2: that she already knew that story because Shannon had told Tamara,
Speaker 2: and Tamara had told her, that's weird too, Oh it's weird.
Speaker 1: I didn't take that. I took it to mean and
Speaker 1: I could be totally wrong. I took it to mean
Speaker 1: that Shannon told her that. But then she knows that
Speaker 1: Shannon also told other people that Shannon tells people's stuff.
Speaker 1: She said Tamar, she said she'd already told Tamar. That
Speaker 1: means Tamara had told her, because how would Tamaran how
Speaker 1: would she know Tamar New Yeah, so I think Shannon
Speaker 1: just tells people's stuff. And it's possible that she drinks
Speaker 1: and then like gets on the phone with people and
Speaker 1: get you know, cries to people on the phone. But
Speaker 1: I think Shannon is the one who's telling her business
Speaker 1: to people and then being like, I can't believe you
Speaker 1: would tell people. And I felt like what Heather was
Speaker 1: saying was, bit, you're telling other people already, and they
Speaker 1: showed they had a flashback that Shannon did this with
Speaker 1: her relationship with John Janssen, where she would tell multiple
Speaker 1: people's secrets and then it and remember, and then it
Speaker 1: all got blamed on Heather when it got out that
Speaker 1: people knew, and it was like, but Shannon's telling all
Speaker 1: different people this and then being mad that her secret's out.
Speaker 2: We have a friend Stephanie and night I knew I was,
Speaker 2: yet you always thinking and just kind of rolls calls
Speaker 2: and tells everybody everything and then is role weirdly secretive
Speaker 2: about it and yeah, no, we've we've been there. So
Speaker 2: I get how, I get how Shannon's annoying. Well, then
Speaker 2: she runs and gets these like weird papers, so I
Speaker 2: have to ask you about this. She gets like a
Speaker 2: bunch of crinkled pieces. She's like, I've got receipts, I've
Speaker 2: got receipts. And she goes off and gets these crinkled
Speaker 2: papers and Heather and Emily start laughing and it's kind
Speaker 2: of cute. They really cannot stop laughing, which is cute, right,
Speaker 2: But I feel like Shannon was trying to be cute.
Speaker 2: She knows she looks crazy and she's playing the part.
Speaker 2: I agree, yes, yes, that felt stage because she knows.
Speaker 2: She just has weird numbers written on like an old
Speaker 2: the back of like.
Speaker 1: A and why did she make me go to London?
Speaker 1: Oh that's such a good exactly.
Speaker 2: That's why I think she just thinks, well that that'll
Speaker 2: be cute, and it works because Heather's like, I can't
Speaker 2: stay mad at her.
Speaker 1: That's so it's so Shannon, I guess. But it's also like,
Speaker 1: is Shannon, But Shannon was the one who mad at Heather,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of funny that she's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't stay mad. She wasn't mad in the first place,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but she's talking shit about her. She's talking
Speaker 1: shit about everybody, which we do. You're going to do
Speaker 1: that on the show. I kind of we'll get to
Speaker 1: the Nieman Marcus thing. But how made me laugh? Yes,
Speaker 1: But Heather also pointed out that Shannon what the reason
Speaker 1: that she went and got all these hashtag receipts is
Speaker 1: because Heather was like, Shannon, you went on a national
Speaker 1: radio show and talked about it, So I don't understand
Speaker 1: how you're mad at me.
Speaker 2: And that's her camera saying that she's the one that
Speaker 2: keeps bringing up Jeff Lewis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Shannon did go on a national radio show
Speaker 1: and talk about it, and Jeff Lewis asked her about it,
Speaker 1: So how come she's not mad at Jeff Lewis? Right? Anyway,
Speaker 1: all this, all these notes that she scribbled, I mean,
Speaker 1: she's a crazy person going, Okay, this family dinner, she
Speaker 1: called them family dinners. But in her mind, she's charging
Speaker 1: John back for that. She's going to take all those
Speaker 1: dinners that she wrote down on a little spiral notepad
Speaker 1: right on like the back of literally Chinese menus.
Speaker 2: She has like five thousand dollars written in like it
Speaker 2: it's like the zodiacular You needs like a what do
Speaker 2: you call it? A cipher? What's the thing you have
Speaker 2: to like look at it? Through a code book. She's
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy, and I do. I liked it, but it's
Speaker 2: just so so performative, right, Yes, it's all performative to me.
Speaker 2: So then we're back at the spa. This is when
Speaker 2: the Nieman Marcus dress comes up. This is Heather, This
Speaker 2: is Gina. No, this is Gina and Jen. Oh that's right,
Speaker 2: so it's not this mother and the.
Speaker 1: Little Gina's talking to Jen and she's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Heather was gossiping that she saw the dress. Wait is
Speaker 1: it Gina and Jen or Gina and Tamera. It's Oh
Speaker 1: my god, is Gina and Jen? It's Gina and Jen.
Speaker 1: I had to think about that, so does tell Oh.
Speaker 1: Gina's like, oh my god. Yeah, I was thinking. Katie's
Speaker 1: like the Mamma Graham thing was crazy. Yeah, they have
Speaker 1: Meama Grant. I don't know, that was bullshit. She's like
Speaker 1: kind of agreed to with. I have to tell you something.
Speaker 1: Heather was gossiping that she saw the dress that you
Speaker 1: wore to the tea potty in Nieman Macchus and it
Speaker 1: was Dolce and Gabbana for two thousand dollars and she
Speaker 1: was like, why is she wearing a two thousand dollars
Speaker 1: dress if she's having financial troubles, and Jen's like that
Speaker 1: such bullshit. So Jen's getting herself worked up about everybody
Speaker 1: because Gina's working her. Gina is doing some damage. Oh
Speaker 1: a lot of damage. Gina is just what is going
Speaker 1: on with her? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I love her so much, although I do have a
Speaker 2: comment later in one of her it's the same confessional
Speaker 2: dress and I'm like, is there there's no way to
Speaker 2: fix something in post like that?
Speaker 1: They can't like just draw over it eye? Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: A I thought shit, because she's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: She was on Watch What Happens by the Way with
Speaker 2: Johnny Wehlberg, and she looked amazing. She'd had some stuff done,
Speaker 2: she had a better dress, like, she's beautiful, but somebody
Speaker 2: steered her.
Speaker 1: So they have really just been doing her dirty. Every
Speaker 1: confession is terrible, though it's not even just the one.
Speaker 1: It's like, then she does the other one where her
Speaker 1: hair is pulled back like she's in a Robert Plant video. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's not good either.
Speaker 2: Somebody and one there was one whole season where her
Speaker 2: hair was bleached white and it was all frizzy and white.
Speaker 2: She's really like somebody's mad at her, and it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Because I don't. I don't. Maybe she's doing well, maybe
Speaker 1: she's just trolling us in some weird way. She's just
Speaker 1: the genius behind it all. I don't know.
Speaker 2: So this Nieman Marsa, Jen's like, what, She's going to
Speaker 2: get a lot madder later. So then they go back
Speaker 2: to Tamra and Camra and Heather talking about it. Conversation
Speaker 2: comes out, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tama's like, I heard that dress Jen War was
Speaker 1: a two thousand dollars Dulcha in Gabbana.
Speaker 2: And then she does I'm concerned. Tamara literally says she's
Speaker 2: concerned for her. She's not like judging her. I'm just concerned.
Speaker 1: No, you're not concerned about her. Tamra's, uh, who really
Speaker 1: is Katie? Is this k Katie? Tamra, it's Tamra, I
Speaker 1: want to say, Tamaran. Heather Okay, yeah, then heathery Tamar
Speaker 1: and Katie, You're right, I don't know where Heather. So
Speaker 1: they're called me and told me that she bought a
Speaker 1: Dulce adulta dress but that maybe she should return it.
Speaker 1: But then Ryan told her, oh, you can wear it
Speaker 1: to like your nephew's wedding or something, so like maybe
Speaker 1: Ryan bought it. This is Cameron Katie. Okay. Then they
Speaker 1: have a whole conversation about the FBI. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: Tamaron does a thing where she's not supposed to bring
Speaker 1: it up, and she's like, yeah, I shouldn't have rought
Speaker 1: It's really wrong of me to bring up the FBI.
Speaker 1: She looks straight into the camera and says it again. Yes,
Speaker 1: but in her defense, it is a little crazy that like,
Speaker 1: this is a pretty big story. And later when she's
Speaker 1: like stop talking about it, she's like, it's all over
Speaker 1: the fucking internet, which it is. It's a huge story.
Speaker 1: It's like she's like, yeah, because Ryan's partner is a
Speaker 1: bookie and those two are constantly flying on private jets
Speaker 1: to the Bahamas and Vegas. Okay, let me say this,
Speaker 1: and this might be a controversial opinion, but if I'm
Speaker 1: a hot take, here's my hot take. If I'm if
Speaker 1: somebody is in my friend group and they're just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, my boyfriend is so great and there's
Speaker 1: stories all over the internet about how he's getting arrested
Speaker 1: his partner. It's super shady business. They were rated by
Speaker 1: the FBI, It's gonna be pretty hard to film scenes
Speaker 1: where she's like, oh my god, Ryan's amazing. He's like
Speaker 1: taking care of me and my kids. I'd be like, bitch,
Speaker 1: what about that? I feel like I would be Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel like I would be like, are we all
Speaker 1: going to just pretend that this is just a great guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The thing because she's acting like I don't know what
Speaker 1: he does. They've all asked him what he does for
Speaker 1: a living, and she's like just kind of hangs out
Speaker 1: in the sunshine. He lives in the sunshine. What I mean,
Speaker 1: Come on, She's a dumb ass. She's a total dumb ass.
Speaker 1: That's the problem with this particular franchise. There's nobody to
Speaker 1: root for except Archie, poor, poor sweet Archie and Gina.
Speaker 2: And we love Gina too. I know, I'm I still
Speaker 2: I'm still on the Gina train.
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. And by the way, Gina and Heather,
Speaker 1: well we'll wait, we'll get we'll do it linear. So
Speaker 1: they go back like on cue.
Speaker 2: Jen is mad about the story, like they're both just
Speaker 2: showing the same conversation but just different people. Right, So
Speaker 2: Jen and Gina is like full on winding her up
Speaker 2: like she's like, everybody hates you. Gina's basically saying is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: everybody talks about you. Everybody hates you. They nobody's to
Speaker 2: be trusted. So Jen is just now this is important.
Speaker 2: She's getting fired up.
Speaker 1: So finally they come together, like you know there, it's
Speaker 1: like nothing happened the night before. Corona del mar is
Speaker 1: gonna bring everyone capes and tiaras and they're gonna go
Speaker 1: on a double decker bus. Oh my god, it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And you'll have red capes and I'm the Duchess in waiting,
Speaker 2: so I have a purple cape. And yeah, so they
Speaker 2: get on the dumb bus. They have to wear tiaras,
Speaker 2: which are so stupid. I would have said now, I
Speaker 2: like when Jen was like mine is kind of small,
Speaker 2: and I have extensions, like she's trying not to get
Speaker 2: them in her tracks.
Speaker 1: So and then she had anybody of course like mine's
Speaker 1: the biggest one, right, yes, And they're so stupid. They're
Speaker 1: saying dumb things. Again.
Speaker 2: I'm so annoyed that I'm not there and they are,
Speaker 2: and they're like, look, how cute big Ben is. Please
Speaker 2: don't call big Ben cute. Where's the little ben Look
Speaker 2: how cute that castle is so cute. But then Gina,
Speaker 2: for some reason, they can't hear the person telling them, like, hey,
Speaker 2: this is the oldest castle in existence, is from the
Speaker 2: twelve hundreds.
Speaker 1: They don't care.
Speaker 2: So Gina's like, well, I can't really hear them anyway,
Speaker 2: So what's up with the Mammograham thing?
Speaker 1: She brings that up on a windy day. You had
Speaker 1: to have turned on her a little bit for that,
Speaker 1: were you just? I mean, what for her? All people weird?
Speaker 1: She's so mad about Yes, she's so mad when people
Speaker 1: like at being caught doing things. But she's very quick,
Speaker 1: you know, she's she's she's done a lot of little stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh yea, yeah, for sure, behind the scenes. But she
Speaker 1: just really wants to come for Heather. This is a
Speaker 1: whole thing where they're just gonna come for Heather.
Speaker 2: But she feels like Heather came for her, I think
Speaker 2: in past episodes, and she had there was so mad
Speaker 2: at her about Katie stuff although she didn't do but
Speaker 2: she did that, yeah she did. And then it ight
Speaker 2: her laughing at Katie making fun of Heather, and she's
Speaker 2: just laughing.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, that's a bad look.
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, well you do shit too, so maybe
Speaker 2: maybe now is not the right time to come for Heather.
Speaker 1: So they start going kind of for Heather. Well, I
Speaker 1: also thought it was so like, let's just say that
Speaker 1: we don't know that Heather's not nice to people. Let's
Speaker 1: just say we don't know that. We're just going by
Speaker 1: the show and Heather is trying to make a little story.
Speaker 1: She was upset. First of all, Heather didn't even actually
Speaker 1: bring up and I know she meant to. I know
Speaker 1: she meant it. I know it was all staged. But
Speaker 1: tamer is the one who was like, yeah, well okay,
Speaker 1: maybe Heather did say like, yeah, I was a little
Speaker 1: bit upset you guys didn't ask me about my mammogram.
Speaker 1: But in Heather's defense, she it it came, they talked
Speaker 1: about it, she had a little momentary storyline and they'd
Speaker 1: moved on. So Gina's the one bringing it back up,
Speaker 1: which Heather points out, right, but then YU were upset.
Speaker 1: We just didn't know, right.
Speaker 2: Right, it comes in She's like, yeah, okay, I don't
Speaker 2: want to talk about it anymore, and she's like, well
Speaker 2: you brought it up. Then she brings up she's like,
Speaker 2: you never have my back. She were shady on Watch
Speaker 2: what Happens because she's asked by Andy Cohen or whatever,
Speaker 2: like who has the cheapest house.
Speaker 1: Which is so rude. She's like and then she won't answer.
Speaker 2: Heather is like, I don't I don't know, and then
Speaker 2: Andy's like it's Gina, right though, it's got to be Gina,
Speaker 2: and Heather.
Speaker 1: Does not confirm exactly Heather's Heather's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't been in a lot of their houses. How
Speaker 1: is that? And then Gina's mad because she's like, well
Speaker 1: you you yeah, you didn't say anything. You were complicit. Basically,
Speaker 1: you were complacent. She goes, you were complacent she said that. Yes,
Speaker 1: She goes because she's like, what did I say? Heather goes,
Speaker 1: what did I say? She goes, you didn't say anything?
Speaker 1: You were complacent, you didn't stick up for me. What
Speaker 1: is she supposed to do? Go no, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think Gina's the poorest one on the show.
Speaker 1: And then Emily comes on and she's like, no, that's
Speaker 1: not how you treat your friends. You say, hey, she's
Speaker 1: got a badass house side, they all have great houses.
Speaker 2: You say something nice, you counter it like if none
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Do that, though none of them do. Emily said she would,
Speaker 1: and I do believe that she would. I do believe
Speaker 1: that she would be like what don't that's disgusting. Her
Speaker 1: house is gorgeous, you know, like something, because that is
Speaker 1: your friend. But it's also the show Heather's listen. She's
Speaker 1: kind of a beeah, like she's not great.
Speaker 2: No, she's not nice, and so I can understand why
Speaker 2: people would be mad at her. But and why is
Speaker 2: she friends with Tamra And why is she friends with Alexis.
Speaker 2: It's some questions, yeah.
Speaker 1: Questions, but yeah, it's weird timing, and so she's mad,
Speaker 1: she's they're both just being like really rude. Why I
Speaker 1: felt like, so for me, this is where I started
Speaker 1: being like more on Heather's side, because Heather is kind
Speaker 1: of like, look, I want to be on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: These all of you all y'all are beneath me, and
Speaker 1: this is just stupid. So Heather will do stuff just
Speaker 1: and just go like, oh my god, who cares? Right,
Speaker 1: like move on? And then but they have to like
Speaker 1: stay mad, and I think that's the thing that's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so you guys are still Gina's trying to make this
Speaker 1: a storyline, and by Heather going like like forget, I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it. Who cares? Stop? Then
Speaker 1: that makes Gina even more mad. No, we are going
Speaker 1: to have a storyline, right, yes, yes, for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Heather's like above it, but I do feel
Speaker 2: her true colors. She was just saying even in the Confessionals,
Speaker 2: She's like what, Yeah, her house is cheap, what do
Speaker 2: you want?
Speaker 1: Like she's just a bitch, like that is her friend.
Speaker 2: And by the way, they are friends again after Watch
Speaker 2: What Happens Like they're good now. The reunion's just been shot.
Speaker 2: They just shot the reunion and apparently like it was
Speaker 2: a very h what was the world like? Healing?
Speaker 1: I don't know how much fun we're going to get
Speaker 1: out of it, But apparently like the people that were
Speaker 1: friends become friends again.
Speaker 2: I guess because Gina seemed fine with it. But she
Speaker 2: also doesn't want to cross Heather too much. Right, So
Speaker 2: they go shopping. They're all being so obnoxious and two
Speaker 2: different group, two separate curts, Yeah, chocolates, waffles, shading cream.
Speaker 1: Emily and Shannon. So of course they go eat a
Speaker 1: bunch of fried food, and then Heather, Tamara and Katie
Speaker 1: and of course they go to like the Rodeo Drive
Speaker 1: of London and by Jewelry.
Speaker 2: Which is so stupid because you can get any of
Speaker 2: those stores anywhere, but that's where they go, right. They're
Speaker 2: just being obnoxious and want to show you know, who
Speaker 2: knows if Tama is really buying shit. But then they
Speaker 2: have to do some sticky thing where they go like like,
Speaker 2: let's try on some old cute photo like let's make
Speaker 2: photo shoot. Oh god, And of course they have to
Speaker 2: be like, well, Emily has to get the smallest outfit
Speaker 2: though size zero.
Speaker 1: You get a size zero courset. Hope it were for you.
Speaker 1: Why don't you have Why don't you have a size
Speaker 1: zero corset that's actually a size twelve? Because this one
Speaker 1: doesn't fit me. This makes me feel bad.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're all having They're all dressed up in
Speaker 2: their dumb shit. I just have like, oh god, these
Speaker 2: same conversations happen again.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Gina tells the camera like have this is
Speaker 1: a control freak. She wants to dictate when I can
Speaker 1: have feelings and she has, but she can have feelings
Speaker 1: about anything and hold on to them until the end
Speaker 1: of the world. She's gaslighting me. I've never been so
Speaker 1: gas lit by anybody in my entire life. I'm from
Speaker 1: New York. I don't even know how I got on
Speaker 1: this show. I don't know why they don't put me
Speaker 1: in the other show. Really though we all believe, we
Speaker 1: all feel bad. Yeah, we are.
Speaker 2: Like they need to move and she needs to be
Speaker 2: She needs to like lighten up New York. I don't
Speaker 2: love the New York franchise right NowCast she could. I
Speaker 2: guess she could do Jersey, but she would she'd be
Speaker 2: eating up. Yeah, and I think Jersey's over.
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's move Heather to Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2: No one's in the right place exactly, Okay, agree? So
Speaker 2: Shannon has breakfast with Heather. Is that the next scene
Speaker 2: after they all do their clothes shit? Or they just yeah,
Speaker 2: breakfast with Heather? About how they all talk shit? Shannon
Speaker 2: yells at everyone about nothing. She seems a little tipsy
Speaker 2: if I'm honest, Waiter, are you talking about the big
Speaker 2: meal the filet?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, no, they have like a breakfast. This is before
Speaker 2: the dinner. This is before they have the big meal.
Speaker 2: A quick, little breakfast. It may have just been like
Speaker 2: a blank. Shannon's just getting herself worked up.
Speaker 1: I just have a thing about that. Gina and Shannon
Speaker 1: are bitching about Heather talking about them. Oh maybe that's
Speaker 1: what Jenn says. Oh yeah, yeah, they're in the room. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then okay, yeah, and Jen is like, you know,
Speaker 1: Heather talked about my dress and whether I should have
Speaker 1: spent money on it. She needs to stop talking talking
Speaker 1: about us. So yeah, Gina, Shannon, and Jen are all
Speaker 1: they're talking about Heather. Better not with Heather.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, And then Shannon's like, yell for some reason,
Speaker 2: She's like, everyone should just stop talking. And you kind
Speaker 2: of can't tell if Shannon's mad at them for having
Speaker 2: this conversation even though they have her back. Seems like
Speaker 2: Shannon's confused, like as to who her friends are in
Speaker 2: this moment, because that's why I thought she might be
Speaker 2: might be a little tipsy, Okay, possibly, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It felt like it.
Speaker 2: So then they go to dinner and again with the
Speaker 2: espresso Martiniz Yeah, which obviously shan head there's doing something
Speaker 2: with that. It's always her that's ordering it. Oh, you're
Speaker 2: doing like a line or something, you know, just wait,
Speaker 2: Shannon gets a drink. Sure you noticed.
Speaker 1: I mean that's they just show every time. I mean
Speaker 1: she's just always drinking. Yeah. And this is when Emily
Speaker 1: gets mad. She's like, why is this really small and
Speaker 1: big girl? Big girl needs big drink. I need a trough,
Speaker 1: Bring me a trough. Like everyone's okay. So Gina makes
Speaker 1: a nice toast. I thought, yep, hey, let's have a
Speaker 1: nice time. Shannon. I don't know, I'm trying to over it.
Speaker 1: So Jen goes, Heather, I have a question. Did you
Speaker 1: see my dress at Neiman Marcus and have a problem
Speaker 1: with it? She had a problem with my dress that
Speaker 1: I wore the other day. And Heather's like, I saw
Speaker 1: your dress at Nieman and I was like, wow, did
Speaker 1: she buy a two thousand dollars dress? And Jen goes,
Speaker 1: why woy Heather? She goes, now, Heather's totally busted here,
Speaker 1: a hundred percent busted. And I was kind of proud
Speaker 1: of Heather for being like kind of owning it, Like
Speaker 1: what are you going to do? Like you're busted. So
Speaker 1: she's like, well, cause you just told us that you
Speaker 1: get six thousand dollars a month from your ex. So
Speaker 1: I was kind of worried about you spending.
Speaker 2: Dress so rediculous, so condescending. She's all that is awful.
Speaker 2: She's not worried. She has busted. There's not much she
Speaker 2: can do. And it's not like she's the only person
Speaker 2: that would ever say that. We'd probably all be like, wow,
Speaker 2: she's spending a lot of money. But like Heather, she
Speaker 2: didn't own it. She's like, yeah, I was just worried
Speaker 2: about you don't.
Speaker 1: That's exactly well, she's going to own it in a minute, Okay,
Speaker 1: so ye, Tamra's like trying to do damage control, but
Speaker 1: she's so Tamor. She's like, you know, Heather said, I
Speaker 1: just don't want her to feel like she has to
Speaker 1: buy two thousand dollars dresses to fit in. And then
Speaker 1: Shannon's like, this is ridiculous. It's no one's business. And
Speaker 1: then Emily goes, well, Ryan about the dress, right, right?
Speaker 1: And then Emily is like all over the place on
Speaker 1: this one, and she's defending yes, and then she is
Speaker 1: somebody you'd want on your side, though, I will give
Speaker 1: her that, Like, if I was in a fight, i'd
Speaker 1: definitely want Emily backing me kind of. But then she
Speaker 1: says to camera I think she's like, Jen's trying to
Speaker 1: portray herself as doing well, but she has no job.
Speaker 1: She lives off her boyfriend. She doesn't know how he
Speaker 1: gets his money, and I think it's she's not defending Jen.
Speaker 1: She later defends Shannon, but like, okay.
Speaker 2: They also do a flashback of everybody making fun of
Speaker 2: the fact that Jen used to have fake stuff, like
Speaker 2: so she'd have a fake Louis Baton or whatever. Right,
Speaker 2: so she can't win, No, she really can't win with
Speaker 2: this nightmare of a group of people. So Heather finally
Speaker 2: sort of apologizes and that was fine. Jen's like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine. So now Jen turns her sights onto Tamra
Speaker 2: and she starts laying in. She's like to Tama, brings
Speaker 2: up the FBI, She's like, I know, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to bring up the FBI again.
Speaker 1: FBI, so this is amazing souse. Then Shannon asks Tama
Speaker 1: about the texts, the Alexis text. Yes, isn't this where
Speaker 1: this comes up? She goes, I have a question for Tamra, Right,
Speaker 1: I talked to Gina about that text from twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: where Alexis said we are suing Tarmra I'm surprised you
Speaker 1: didn't say anything about it. Yeah, and then that's where
Speaker 1: Emily defends Shannon re alexis like, why does Shannon? Why
Speaker 1: are you guys up in Shannon's stuff all the time,
Speaker 1: but you never hold Alexis accountable? Right, good point. And
Speaker 1: then Shannon's like, just don't talk behind my back. And
Speaker 1: then Tamarra's like, you talk behind my back. And then
Speaker 1: Shannon's like, no, I don't, No, I don't. She goes, yes,
Speaker 1: you do, Like you said I have a big ego.
Speaker 1: You said this, you have that, and then Shannon goes,
Speaker 1: well you.
Speaker 2: Do, Like that is such a difference between like what
Speaker 2: Tamara is such a gas lighter here, because there's a
Speaker 2: big difference saying she has an ego versus any of
Speaker 2: the things that Tamara says about everybody else, Like Tamar's
Speaker 2: so vile. So when she's like, yeah, well you do
Speaker 2: have a big ego, that's so not a big thing.
Speaker 2: And then she's just Tama just like goes crazy about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: She's like, you had a facelift, so you don't look
Speaker 2: bad talk about a big ego. Yeah, no, she said,
Speaker 2: I mean that's like such mean fighting. That's Oh, she's
Speaker 2: so mean, she's.
Speaker 1: Shanon says that she's like, you're cruel, and then which
Speaker 1: is true, like she's just saying the truth. And then
Speaker 1: Tamara just keeps going. And then Tamar starts waving her
Speaker 1: hand like in her face, like waving b and Shannon goes,
Speaker 1: don't you put your hand up at me? And I
Speaker 1: was like, Shanna, that's not gonna work. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: work again. You got to throw.
Speaker 2: That's somebody you'll get kicked out now. But back in
Speaker 2: the day, that's a drink. That's time for a drink.
Speaker 1: Throw.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I would do. I mean, you got
Speaker 2: to like this is this is the wild wild West.
Speaker 2: You gotta stake your claim. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: would allow that anymore. I don't feel like we've seen
Speaker 2: that in a while.
Speaker 1: Like throwing a drink in someone's face.
Speaker 2: I mean there was like, let's see Brandy did it
Speaker 2: back in Beverly Hills. Oh yeah, we had Kim Richards
Speaker 2: did it with Lisa Renna. I mean there have been
Speaker 2: quite a few. Remember the Ramona one where she threw
Speaker 2: like a thing and she broke a glass and shattered
Speaker 2: like I bet that they're.
Speaker 1: A little bit tougher on that. Now. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was Shannon, and I would just but Shannon's not
Speaker 1: going to throw her drink in anybody's face, no, because
Speaker 1: you know, okay she needs it, she doesn't.
Speaker 2: She's not gonna wait, like maybe find a water. It
Speaker 2: sounded really see that sounded like something tam Or would say,
Speaker 2: Oh may people.
Speaker 1: I know. So she's like, don't put your hand up
Speaker 1: at me. Camra does it again, and then Shannon goes,
Speaker 1: this is my trip and then she goes to storm out.
Speaker 1: They're like, where are you storming out? Shannon? Come on,
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm going to the ladies room. I
Speaker 1: Am not going to get thebly abused. I'm setting boundaries.
Speaker 1: And then father says to Tamra, this might be like
Speaker 1: an inappropriate time, but to say this, but this is
Speaker 1: the best onion ring I've ever had. I didn't hate that.
Speaker 1: I didn't try that about it.
Speaker 2: So then okay, I feel like there's a moment where
Speaker 2: someone followed her into the bathroom, but it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: who cares.
Speaker 1: They go back to the hotel and they're all drinking
Speaker 1: a lot, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So somebody who has the idea was it, Emily,
Speaker 2: let's all text our guys something exactly the same thing
Speaker 2: we're going to send them. Was actually a fun idea,
Speaker 2: we're all going to text our boyfriends or husband's exact same,
Speaker 2: Like I'm thinking I'm wet right now.
Speaker 1: Or whatever it was. It was I'm naked right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm naked right now, and like how fast was
Speaker 2: she were here or whatever? Let's see what they all
Speaker 2: text back. And then the idea of her that to
Speaker 2: Shane is so gross to me, Like I couldn't get
Speaker 2: that out of my head. It's like, oh, Shane's getting
Speaker 2: this text. So Shannon's getting all skulky in the background
Speaker 2: because she doesn't have a guy to send it to,
Speaker 2: which is really really funny. So the guys start texting back.
Speaker 2: Eddie's the first to respond, which is kind of hot.
Speaker 2: Eddie's hot.
Speaker 1: I'd get with him. Ryan of course like all in it.
Speaker 1: Everybody's got okay. Ryan's like a sex addict. He's just like,
Speaker 1: where the fuck hew the guy have a hook? Can
Speaker 1: I get a prostitute? Well? She, I think Jenny even
Speaker 1: said the second that she does it, he's going to
Speaker 1: She's going to get a dick pic for me.
Speaker 2: That was funny. I mean, he's gross, but it was funny.
Speaker 2: Katie gets nothing because her husband is ninety five and
Speaker 2: on the golf course right right, So Gina's she gets one,
Speaker 2: and Shannon's like.
Speaker 1: I'm tired, I'm tired of good night. I've got to
Speaker 1: see the kids early and I'm going to bed, and
Speaker 1: so they all kind of laugh, and he's like, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean to do that to Shannon, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of funny. So, like poor.
Speaker 2: Shannon, but they are all pretty drunk, like I just
Speaker 2: I pointed out, only because they are so tough on Shannon,
Speaker 2: and they should be and Shannon should be working on herself.
Speaker 2: But they're all just a bunch of drunks, except maybe
Speaker 2: Heather and Gina. But they were pretty wasted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just fine, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not you know, I would be too, But like just
Speaker 2: I don't know that they have I don't really think
Speaker 2: they have the right to worry about her drinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean most of them don't, like only a
Speaker 1: few of them have been, like upset, but like cameras,
Speaker 1: But something that she did drunk is a big storyline
Speaker 1: of this whole show. I mean, it did instigate her
Speaker 1: breakup with John Janssen. I mean, you know, she wasn't
Speaker 1: in rehab for a long time, so and still drinking, and.
Speaker 2: Right, it's she has no account it. She has no
Speaker 2: self awareness. I think that's what drives them crazy. But Tamra,
Speaker 2: as she said when she announced that she was on
Speaker 2: the spectrum, which we talked about in a separate episode,
Speaker 2: you guys we covered it, yep, she also was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe I need to look at my drinking too, like yeah.
Speaker 1: Probably, oh yeah. Like Tamra is no hero, she's terrible, right,
Speaker 1: And if it changes your personality, if you're drinking a lot,
Speaker 1: and she's tiny, so she's drinking, we're watching her do it.
Speaker 1: So she's getting pretty drunk, which is fine, but if
Speaker 1: it makes you a really mean person, it makes you
Speaker 1: different than you are, it is an issue, and she
Speaker 1: is acknowledging that. So she's working on her drinking, just
Speaker 1: like Shannon very harshly drugged judged Gina when she said dui,
Speaker 1: and then Shannon got a dui and now she has
Speaker 1: to look at her own drinking. And then Tamra judge
Speaker 1: Shannon really hard, and now Tamra has to look at
Speaker 1: her own So it's a whole chain reaction, endless cycle.
Speaker 1: So the next morning, Emily apparently had moved out of
Speaker 1: the suite. I don't know why that mattered, but she
Speaker 1: moved in with Gina. I guess that was strange. They
Speaker 1: all talk about Shannon for a while. Emily and Tamra
Speaker 1: are getting smoothies, trying to get rid of their hangovers,
Speaker 1: and Emily's trying to get Tamra to maybe stop being
Speaker 1: so mean to Shannon, right, and then she tells the
Speaker 1: camera She's like, I mean, Tamara can be mad about
Speaker 1: the DUI get it, and not like to see her drink,
Speaker 1: and that's valid, but she needs to help Shannon. She
Speaker 1: needs to help her be a better person, not be
Speaker 1: so mean to her. I like that. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I get why Tamra's frustrated, but I like that. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Shannon has dug up a text from Tamra from twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two saying somebody sent her some stuff about Ryan,
Speaker 1: and so she did a background check.
Speaker 2: Right, And I didn't understand the point of that coming
Speaker 2: up now, anything to get it off, Yeah, because we
Speaker 2: had the Alexis conversation before, but now it's about Tamara
Speaker 2: doing a background Now, we're going to get Tamra in trouble.
Speaker 1: So Jenannon is trying to get Yeah, Tama in trouble
Speaker 1: for because Jen is so mad that Tama has told
Speaker 1: the story about the FBI. But here's where I'm going
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, I get that Tamra sucks, like I
Speaker 1: really do. But like any group of women, if somebody
Speaker 1: who especially somebody new to your group, if you find
Speaker 1: out that their husband is like seems like a total
Speaker 1: shady character who's being kind of put into your group
Speaker 1: and is not even the person's husband, like it's just
Speaker 1: some boyfriend that they have that you know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I could see being like, oh, let's run a background check.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh for sure, A hundred. I for less. I
Speaker 2: would do that right it was available to me a hundred.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's so crazy.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why Jen is so she's so
Speaker 1: defensive of Ryan when like the whole internet is aware
Speaker 1: that he's a super fucking shady guy. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not like, oh my god, he got arrested for shoplifting
Speaker 1: one time and it was a misunderstanding. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: he's a bookie. His partner is a bookie, like his
Speaker 1: business is shady, and she's like, stop talking about him. Okay,
Speaker 1: well the world is talking about him. Gets crazier than that.
Speaker 1: So Jen finds her voice. Jen finds her a sealing.
Speaker 2: She is mad and she's bringing up and she's gonna
Speaker 2: go dirty, the same way Tama does, where she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, don't come for me, you're trash.
Speaker 1: This is before she even talks to her. But she
Speaker 1: brings up like, you know, I have kids who love me.
Speaker 2: She's bringing up that Tamara has some problems with her
Speaker 2: own children, you know, either they're Ryan right or Ryan
Speaker 2: or like they're not speaking to her, which I think
Speaker 2: is shitty because we don't. You know, people have family
Speaker 2: dynamics that don't necessarily reflect like who they are, although
Speaker 2: in the case of Tamra they clearly do, but not always.
Speaker 1: You know, we've all had that.
Speaker 2: So like, she's getting herself, Jenna's getting herself worked up,
Speaker 2: so she storms to her room. She storms and she
Speaker 2: bangs on the door and she's not mad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well, it's where their production is. They're doing right,
Speaker 1: they're just their makeup. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh and my god, I'm surprised. I mean, I kind
Speaker 2: of liked having to see Tamara without glam. It was
Speaker 2: like she just looks like somebody that just crawled out
Speaker 2: from the basement, which we all would, but her hair's
Speaker 2: all being like trying. They're trying to like tease her hair,
Speaker 2: and she has no makeup on, and it's she's like,
Speaker 2: it's like fighting.
Speaker 1: It is honestly like a sea witch. So funny because
Speaker 1: I really had a different reaction. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: Tamra actually looks so pretty without makeup on, just natural.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think she could wear less makeup for sure,
Speaker 2: but I thought she looked so scary. She looked ooh
Speaker 2: to me, she just looked like like she was drunk. Honestly,
Speaker 2: she just and I know she wasn't. It was the
Speaker 2: next morning, but she looked haggard. And maybe that's just
Speaker 2: because I don't like her personality. So I was applying that.
Speaker 2: But I was proud of Gen. She comes in, She's
Speaker 2: screaming background check. Tamra starts clapping. I just wrote like
Speaker 2: a chamber of first.
Speaker 1: The first thing that happens is Jen's like, did you
Speaker 1: run a background check on Ryan? And tamer goes no,
Speaker 1: of course not. I swear at my kids lives, which
Speaker 1: was like the kids that don't speak to a Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a bad, bad look. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: can't believe she didn't go you just swore on your
Speaker 1: kids' lives and she goes, I just saw it with
Speaker 1: my own eyes, and then Tammara goes a background check
Speaker 1: and then she just starts at how damns a club?
Speaker 1: And then Tamra just starts clapping like to try to
Speaker 1: make her crazy, like it's bad girls club all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, and Jen is not scared. I love it.
Speaker 1: She's just lapping, lapping you freak you crazy, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2: You're using your voice like this. I mean, she just
Speaker 2: couldn't be worse Tamra. Really honestly, even though Jen is
Speaker 2: not in the right because Ryan is awful, remember that
Speaker 2: Jen is friends with Eddie, so Eddie's gonna watch that.
Speaker 1: I bet they don't make it. I bet Eddie sees
Speaker 1: this scene. I swear to you, and like, they don't
Speaker 1: make it. No. I know, maybe I'm wrong, but Eddie
Speaker 1: and Tamora have been together a long time. Oh you
Speaker 1: think that you're saying, no, there's no problem that they
Speaker 1: won't make it like you you think this is going
Speaker 1: to break up Tamra's marriage to Eddie. I think this
Speaker 1: food does he's going to talk about. I think this
Speaker 1: whole season not necessarily about Jen. I think he's truly
Speaker 1: embarrassed about the way Tamara's acting. I think I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan is a bad guy. It's everybody. When
Speaker 1: Tending is like fine and that like stop messing with
Speaker 1: my family, It's like, why are you Why are you
Speaker 1: not acknowledging that your boyfriend who you moved all your
Speaker 1: kids in with, who has no job, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to bother you that you have no idea what
Speaker 1: he does, but you're flying around in planes and going
Speaker 1: to the Bahamas. I don't know. I think with you
Speaker 1: on that, I totally agree with you. Then it's every
Speaker 1: Jen is kind of making this everyone else's fault, like
Speaker 1: camera sucks, but it's kind of to me, it's a
Speaker 1: little Jack Nicholson and a few good men. You kind
Speaker 1: of need her on that wall, like, let me remind
Speaker 1: you the storyline.
Speaker 2: This is important though, because a couple episodes ago, Eddie
Speaker 2: was mortified by Tamara.
Speaker 1: She was drunk.
Speaker 2: He was like stop, stop, he asked them to stop
Speaker 2: serving her. They're having issues. Like you said, I don't
Speaker 2: think they even live together all the time, which is fine. Actually,
Speaker 2: I think that could be strong to help a marriage.
Speaker 1: But I don't think. My prediction is they're gonna split
Speaker 1: within a couple of years. It's just you heard it
Speaker 1: here first. Well you're I don't think so. I think
Speaker 1: they're fine. I think that you know, the show is
Speaker 1: what it is, and they know that they have to
Speaker 1: like sort of perform on the show. I'm sure Eddie
Speaker 1: doesn't love it. I just don't. I don't. So Jen
Speaker 1: is like, finally, she's still wound up. She's like, you
Speaker 1: leave me alone, you leave my family alone. She's she
Speaker 1: she doesn't back down. Heather's there the whole time. I
Speaker 1: forgot just being kind of quiet. Yeah, inherited, which I
Speaker 1: liked for Heather. She didn't really chime in right. And
Speaker 1: then I just made the note.
Speaker 2: Which I've said a couple of times, which is, you know,
Speaker 2: it is weird that Heather is friends with Tamra and Alexis.
Speaker 1: It just tells me what I need to know. How
Speaker 1: she be friends with Jen, But I mean, Tamra is
Speaker 1: a terrible person. She really is, and she's constantly trying
Speaker 1: to figure out ways to like with her new like,
Speaker 1: oh no, but I'm on the spectrum. She's constantly trying
Speaker 1: to figure out ways that she can like be more
Speaker 1: of the victim. I have trauma, I have this. This
Speaker 1: is but it doesn't explain her behavior because a lot
Speaker 1: of people have trauma and they're not horrible mean bullies.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, this is just a reality show.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Jen is on a reality show
Speaker 1: with a life. That is, if she's so worried about
Speaker 1: stuff being exposed, how dare you talk about they're all
Speaker 1: they all talk about each other. That's so true. That's
Speaker 1: the show, right, And you're on a show. You want
Speaker 1: to be on a show because you want that money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like and you want people to tune in.
Speaker 2: It can't just be like they're hanging out exactly.
Speaker 1: So I understand. I kind of see all the sides.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I don't know. Listen, listen, this is nothing.
Speaker 1: Ain't ain't nothing going to break a mustard. I found
Speaker 1: it entertaining. You're gonna you're gonna not let me say,
Speaker 1: nothing's gonna slow me down. Got to the theme song.
Speaker 1: What if they changed the Orange County theme song to
Speaker 1: that and they're like they never even get the rights
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: But Andy, it's like who gives a ship? Nobody cares?
Speaker 2: Like nobody, who are Who can tell me? Who sings that?
Speaker 2: Nobody knows?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't even know. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Nobody Wilder, somebody Wilder? Is it Matthew Wilder? I want
Speaker 1: to say, I look that up. I didn't look it up.
Speaker 1: What's the title of it? Ain't Gonna Break My Stride,
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing gonna break my Stride? Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: by Matthew Wilder. How did you do that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is that a one hit wonder? Uh? I don't know? Okay,
Speaker 1: Well that we have something to look at. Listen to this.
Speaker 1: People also ask was Break My Stride a one hit wonder?
Speaker 1: Though Stride could accurately be called Wilder's one hit As
Speaker 1: an artist, his career has boomed behind the scenes. He
Speaker 1: worked Anyway That's So Funny, porn? What was behind the
Speaker 1: scenes in porn? No on a No Doubts, Tragic Kingdom,
Speaker 1: and he's worked as a songwriter and producer. I cannot
Speaker 1: believe that. I came up with the I have the
Speaker 1: worst memory, so it's insane that I was able to
Speaker 1: bring that up.
Speaker 2: It's meant to be. It was meant to be that
Speaker 2: I was seeing it. Now you're supposed to get in
Speaker 2: touch with him. You might be related, seeing as how
Speaker 2: you have the same last name Ish.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, I know. Weird, all right, guys.
Speaker 1: In conclusion, you are hanging out a lot with Tamra
Speaker 1: and talking about other people and I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know I'm hanging out with either. So can we just say,
Speaker 1: and I'm meant to say this before with the Neiman
Speaker 1: Marcus dress, like, it's very possible you got that the
Speaker 1: rack or somewhere whatever Nieman's version of like a cheaper
Speaker 1: you can get it on what's the thing and get
Speaker 1: You can get it online for cheaper. I've done that Poshmark. Yeah, Poshmark.
Speaker 1: And I don't think she shouldn't pay two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Yes she did because she was talking well, no, she
Speaker 1: definitely did, because she was saying, oh, I thought about
Speaker 1: maybe I should return it because I spent too much
Speaker 1: money on it, remember, and then Ryan talks her into
Speaker 1: keeping it. So if she bought it for two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be a question.
Speaker 2: It is a lot of money, and it's not a
Speaker 2: great dress. I tend to not love Dulce. I think
Speaker 2: it's like some big joke on everybody. Yeah, just because
Speaker 2: you put a big name and whatever, you decide that
Speaker 2: that's going to be really expensive, it doesn't mean it's great.
Speaker 1: Agree. I was like two thousand, girl, it's anyway fixed?
Speaker 2: All right, you guys, this was a fun episode. We
Speaker 2: had some different takes, but that's what makes horse races. Yeah,
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