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Speaker 2: Like I said, have a banger lined up for us tonight.
Speaker 2: We are joined by my friend and fellow reject, a
Speaker 2: cult reject that is Julia of the Cosmic Peak podcast. Julia,
Speaker 2: how are we doing this evening?
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Are trying to work kind of work for the soundboard.
Speaker 2: We're trying to trying new things here. I'm grateful. I
Speaker 2: like it, I love it.
Speaker 4: I feel appreciated already, So thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: We should guys. This is Julia. She's the host of
Speaker 2: the Cosmic Peach podcast. I've been meaning to get her
Speaker 2: on for a minute. We both are on the Occult
Speaker 2: Rejects panel together, so we we do some shows together,
Speaker 2: but we've never, you know, been a guest on each
Speaker 2: other's respective show. So h Julia, tell us a little
Speaker 2: bit about it. For people who don't know you, I
Speaker 2: know you've been in this game for a minute now,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually sometimes well, I mean I think about it
Speaker 4: sometimes and it feels like you haven't been doing it
Speaker 4: very long, and then sometimes I feel like I've been
Speaker 4: doing it forever. But yeah, when people ask like, oh,
Speaker 4: what do you do and I say, oh, I have
Speaker 4: a podcast, people think like it's just a hobby, something
Speaker 4: that I do for fun on the side. But I've
Speaker 4: been working at it for several years now. It definitely
Speaker 4: didn't just pop off overnight. It's been like a slow,
Speaker 4: gradual rise, you know. But I'm really appreciative for the
Speaker 4: people who have listened to my show from the very
Speaker 4: beginning because It's like with any conspiracy theory journey. I
Speaker 4: started off like real skeptical about everything, and then I
Speaker 4: started like discovering like Neffeline stuff, and then I talked
Speaker 4: to like Gary Wayne and I did like the Genesis
Speaker 4: six conspiracy stuff, and then you know, I got into
Speaker 4: like Dave McGowan's work in the Laurel Canyon and Program
Speaker 4: to Kill, and it's just been it's been a ride,
Speaker 4: and I feel like the people that listen to my
Speaker 4: show have kind of like went along with me on
Speaker 4: the ride, because like at first, you you think like
Speaker 4: Bigfoot's just Bigfoot, and like there's actually maybe there's actually
Speaker 4: extra terrestrials and shit like that. But now I'm to
Speaker 4: the point where everything's like some type of weird nephulum
Speaker 4: creature and hybrid counts and us some type of trimera.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, basically.
Speaker 2: We can get into talking about that too. I know
Speaker 2: we had kind of talked earlier. You had some presentations
Speaker 2: I think that you wanted to pull up we were
Speaker 2: going to get into Laurel Canyon, some MK ultra stuff.
Speaker 2: So again, guys, share share the show and be sure
Speaker 2: to hit that like button. But before we get started
Speaker 2: talking about anything. So you've been doing this how long
Speaker 2: you said?
Speaker 4: You said, I think like twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, it feels like, yeah, see, it feels like
Speaker 2: you've been doing it a lot longer. I think we've
Speaker 2: had this discussion before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I feel like sometimes it does feel like
Speaker 4: a long time, especially when you're looking for new topics
Speaker 4: and new guests and like fun new things to cover.
Speaker 4: Since twenty twenty two, I've you know, sometimes it's like
Speaker 4: I want to cover the same stuff other people are
Speaker 4: talking about, but then I don't want to sound like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm just writing their coat tails. So I
Speaker 4: try to find like my own interesting shit to talk about,
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I mean sometimes it feels like a
Speaker 4: real struggle. Sometimes I can't even listen.
Speaker 2: Half the time because I'm like, dude, if I hear
Speaker 2: something and it's even remotely close to what I have
Speaker 2: to say about this subject, and then it didn't come
Speaker 2: to me, you know, yeah, yeah you have to. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think a good podcast host always like listens to
Speaker 4: other podcasts and they'll like get ideas and stuff. But
Speaker 4: I want it to be my own ideas about it,
Speaker 4: don't you know?
Speaker 2: And tell because you're a like totally authentic person you
Speaker 2: and Kolby both and like, you know, yeah, no, I
Speaker 2: could tell when I when I first when I first
Speaker 2: met you guys, and uh, you know, you have a
Speaker 2: very authentic following. It seems organic following. That's how that's
Speaker 2: how it is for me, and I struggle to get
Speaker 2: past a certain amount of followers. But uh, and I've
Speaker 2: had people tell me that, yeah, find you, like I
Speaker 2: search you up, I can't find you. You have to go,
Speaker 2: like you have to, I guess, type in the link.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta get the link. So I've been
Speaker 2: I just printed some uh QR code stickers, guys, sending
Speaker 2: those out with sticker packs.
Speaker 4: Oh that's so smart.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I thought about it, and I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, mm hmm, yeah, no.
Speaker 4: That's so smart because I don't know, I don't get
Speaker 4: a lot of people say that they can't find me.
Speaker 4: But it's like some of the like bigger, bigger shows
Speaker 4: that I've been on, I I feel like really lucky
Speaker 4: to get to be a part of the show or whatever.
Speaker 4: And then afterwards, I'm like, I don't know if that
Speaker 4: was like the right topic to cover. Like I try
Speaker 4: I always try to like bring the heat when I
Speaker 4: go on bigger shows, because I want to give them
Speaker 4: a taste of like what it would be like to
Speaker 4: listen to my show. And sometimes I get really nervous
Speaker 4: and then I'm like, oh, I fucked up. No, he's
Speaker 4: gonna come fucking listen to my show now. I sounded
Speaker 4: like a retard the whole time. So it took a
Speaker 4: while for me to like be able to relax and
Speaker 4: just like enjoy the conversation without am I saying this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Am I doing this?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Am? I?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: Coming in?
Speaker 2: I am an anxious son of a bitch too. I
Speaker 2: am spastic at times.
Speaker 4: Probably that like mannic, that's how I get to Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like I went on Tinfoil Hat two times, and both
Speaker 4: times I felt like I was gonna throw up the
Speaker 4: entire time. And then after I got done with the show,
Speaker 4: I was like, nobody's gonna come find my shit? Now
Speaker 4: I sounds talking stupid. I just like, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: a nervous wreck the entire time. And Yeah, but it
Speaker 4: took it took a while for me to just relax
Speaker 4: and not worry so much about if if people come
Speaker 4: to find the show, because if they want to find it,
Speaker 4: they will, and I'm really opinionated on a lot of stuff,
Speaker 4: and probably it lose a lot of people because of it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Me too, Yeah, I've seen it happen.
Speaker 4: Kobe Ye. Well, I was talking to Colby this morning
Speaker 4: about coming on the show tonight, and he said he
Speaker 4: heard you on the White Rabbit podcast and that you
Speaker 4: have an interesting take on Christianity.
Speaker 2: And I was just curious what that is man was
Speaker 2: was he was he referring to me talking about Christian mysticism.
Speaker 4: Probably probably because he was like, you should ask him
Speaker 4: about it, and because I have my own thoughts on
Speaker 4: it too, and I feel like I lose a lot
Speaker 4: of people because of that. But I was curious what
Speaker 4: you guys had talked about.
Speaker 2: Uh well, you know we Uh well, he was asking
Speaker 2: me a lot about my first when I first started podcasting,
Speaker 2: I was real big Well, I had read a lot
Speaker 2: of Sitchen right, a lot of Sitchen and Lawrence Gardner, uh,
Speaker 2: a little bit of Michael Heiser, but I agreed more
Speaker 2: with Sitchen because I was doing research on other pantheons
Speaker 2: as well, and I was like comparing names. I have
Speaker 2: charts and everything, and like who like the symbols who
Speaker 2: they were worshiped as what their name meant, and like
Speaker 2: what it was translated to and how and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, wait a minute, all these mainly
Speaker 2: like when you look back into the Bible and stuff,
Speaker 2: you see all these different deities mentioned, and like most
Speaker 2: fundamentalists Christians believe that there is like a Satan, right,
Speaker 2: and I I think there are many different deities trying
Speaker 2: to like fighting, you know, for for power, like devils
Speaker 2: like yeah, well, I mean you know it means adversary, right,
Speaker 2: and not necessarily fighting each well, fighting each other in
Speaker 2: the spiritual realm. They use other people to do their
Speaker 2: bidding here in the physical plane. But you know, just
Speaker 2: the fact that like I don't know, there's so much
Speaker 2: there's so many similarities between all these ancient stories of
Speaker 2: these uh, these beings that came from heaven to earth. Right,
Speaker 2: it's all translated different, you know ways. You have these names,
Speaker 2: the the anechem, the uh the sons of a knock,
Speaker 2: the onnake, you know, and you see it in all
Speaker 2: in all these cultures, right, they have all these stories
Speaker 2: of of the gods and uh, you know, it could
Speaker 2: all be metaphysical and symbolic. I I I dive into
Speaker 2: that a lot too. You know, I'm big into esoteric symbolism.
Speaker 2: And uh, I think maybe people who have translated books
Speaker 2: in the past didn't understand what they were translating.
Speaker 4: You know, well, do you think this might be a
Speaker 4: good segue, but do you think that our government is
Speaker 4: working with these entities the CIA? Yeah, like all the
Speaker 4: three letters, the weirdos.
Speaker 2: I believe that these entities are actually adverse to each other.
Speaker 2: I believe there's two sides to them, now, I don't
Speaker 2: I think that they're both kind of neutral and one
Speaker 2: more towards like mysticism in the arts, and the other
Speaker 2: is more of like a warlike you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you have that of like yeah, you know the
Speaker 2: ice here and the vanir or like the Rustic gods
Speaker 2: and then you know the gods of war. But and
Speaker 2: you see the same in these Semitic pantheons, so you know,
Speaker 2: maybe they're just you know, there's all these aspects to
Speaker 2: these different pantheons with these different archetypes, because you know,
Speaker 2: they could just be characteristics of humanity right described in
Speaker 2: this divine state, you know what I mean? Drawn up
Speaker 2: and worshiped, and I've talked about Eggrigor's and all that
Speaker 2: good stuff and how things can be created over time, you.
Speaker 4: Know, m hm, Yeah, No, I agree because I know
Speaker 4: NASA works with them. In my opinion, I think that
Speaker 4: they do. I think that our government is definitely tapped
Speaker 4: into some shit and they're working with like some Babylonian
Speaker 4: rituals and shit like that. And I think, Okay, like
Speaker 4: your opinion then, because this is what I think and
Speaker 4: I could be wrong. But people talk about the Laurel Canyon, right,
Speaker 4: and they talk about how the sixties movement was like
Speaker 4: a fabricated like it wasn't about peace and love and
Speaker 4: like all this this shit that we're supposed to think, right,
Speaker 4: it was the facade, right. And they were mostly military kids,
Speaker 4: not mostly like all of them are military kids. And
Speaker 4: their dads were like, you know, like Frank Zappa's dad
Speaker 4: worked at Edgewood Arsenal and was doing some like weird
Speaker 4: stuff for the government. And it's like, could they have
Speaker 4: used this hippie movement quote unquote this new sound with
Speaker 4: music and the lyrics, it was almost like it changed culture.
Speaker 4: But it's almost like they were trying to Dredge something
Speaker 4: up like it, like ritualistically that they literally changed culture,
Speaker 4: they changed everything with the sixties. I mean, like, what
Speaker 4: do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Well, think about I mean the fact that it's music, right,
Speaker 2: and everything is felt through sound resonance, right, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm basically and spiritually, you know. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I I think I think the first time I heard
Speaker 2: you talk, I may have been on ten foot No, no,
Speaker 2: it was on Reality is Ours?
Speaker 4: Oh cool, that was I think Jim Carrey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was with Nate Thomas, and I think that
Speaker 2: was when Tony was still doing the show with him.
Speaker 2: I think you were talking about Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, with them a couple of times.
Speaker 2: I think, I don't want to spoil.
Speaker 4: Anything, Yeah, no, we'll save that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I definitely think. And then when you
Speaker 2: look at all these these stars, their parents are implicated
Speaker 2: in the military or some kind of government agency.
Speaker 4: Absolutely every single one. Well, this is this is what
Speaker 4: I think if you look at music and culture before
Speaker 4: this hippie movement, right, this slural canyon weirdo ship, it
Speaker 4: was like Buddy Hawley, which he died pretty ritualistically, let's
Speaker 4: just say along with like two other dudes.
Speaker 2: Yeah about those Plaine wrecks that are very ritualistic. I
Speaker 2: don't know who to talk to about it, but that's
Speaker 2: funny you bring that up. I was thinking about skinnerd.
Speaker 4: And uh Skinner and Aliyah and.
Speaker 2: The thing with Alia is crazy that. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was the same year she did Queen of the Damned,
Speaker 2: where she is clearly doing blood rituals in the movie. Yes,
Speaker 2: you're speaking ancient like it's based off of ancient sum
Speaker 2: like straight up. That's it's some Uh. I love that movie, dude, movies.
Speaker 4: Like that again she was she was fucking jay Z
Speaker 4: and doing all kinds of stuff, and it's like, for me, jahove,
Speaker 4: if you look, if you look at the plane, the
Speaker 4: weird plane crashes, that could be its own episode. But
Speaker 4: like right before this big boom of the hippie culture
Speaker 4: and like love who you want to love, and take
Speaker 4: birth control and just you know, braid each other's pit
Speaker 4: hair and like just show off your vagina to the
Speaker 4: public like whatever it was that they were doing this
Speaker 4: free love shit. Think about the culture and the music
Speaker 4: and like the the general vibe of the fifties, like
Speaker 4: the forties.
Speaker 2: And the fifties coming down you know that post war
Speaker 2: era too, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah you know
Speaker 2: that the feeling of like it sounds like a real
Speaker 2: good thing, right. But you had all these boomers that
Speaker 2: were real I guess they weren't boomers at the time.
Speaker 2: They would be considered boomers now, but they were like,
Speaker 2: you know, what's this this hippie queer shit. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Yeah, your hair, you fag.
Speaker 4: They would call them, like long hairs and ship like that,
Speaker 4: and I.
Speaker 2: Love your hair, Scott, don't cut your hair, Scott. Sorry,
Speaker 2: it's one of my own.
Speaker 4: No, I mean it's like normal now, but like for
Speaker 4: the time, it was the Beatles who started off as
Speaker 4: like kind of bubblegummy ship like that, like the Buddy
Speaker 4: Holly stuff.
Speaker 2: And like you know, unpopular. Not a fan of the Beatles,
Speaker 2: but well.
Speaker 4: I mean there's so many stories about the Beatles and
Speaker 4: whether or not it's the real Paul and like all
Speaker 4: that ship which I have talked about before.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 2: You can look at that as biblical as well, with
Speaker 2: two Pauls in the Bible neremon, Oh my god, that
Speaker 2: Bible conspiracy theories. Like I said, well, and there's.
Speaker 4: Like physical evidence, like he grew six inches and ship
Speaker 4: like that. It's like things that you can't make me.
Speaker 2: Which could be uh, you know, esotery, right, I don't know.
Speaker 2: So you see that number six a lot, as well
Speaker 2: as three maybe, and seven and twelve, and it's it's
Speaker 2: how the numbers are used, right. But you're I think
Speaker 2: you're spot on about this stuff being a ritual, and
Speaker 2: I think this whole movement definitely could have been a
Speaker 2: ritual in in itself.
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I'll shut up and
Speaker 2: let you talk.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I mean I you're good. I definitely
Speaker 4: think so this is this is what I'll say. Uh,
Speaker 4: Crosby Stills in Nash, Jim Morrison, Frank Zappa, The Birds,
Speaker 4: Jackson Brown, cant He, The Moms and the Papas, the
Speaker 4: actors of the time, Jack Nicholson, Warren Batty, Dennis Hopper,
Speaker 4: Peter fon Fonda, like all the ship, it's all military.
Speaker 4: A lot of them grew up on the same military
Speaker 4: complex as each other, and then they it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: they just found each other at a bar and like
Speaker 4: they formed No, they didn't. They they literally grew up
Speaker 4: in military schools together. All their parents are military and
Speaker 4: they hid that from the public because they're supposed to
Speaker 4: be anti establishment, right and peace and no war and
Speaker 4: love and all this. And you're it's like your dad's
Speaker 4: like literally, like Jackson Brown's dad was a part of
Speaker 4: the OSS, which was the precursor to the CIA. It's like,
Speaker 4: all you fucks come from military background.
Speaker 2: You're telling the enemy your dad is selling guns to
Speaker 2: the enemy while you're out there, you know, putting flowers
Speaker 2: and the bar.
Speaker 4: That's the problem. And if the government, as I suspect,
Speaker 4: works with these weird entities, then the whole movement is probably,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, some type of rich sualistic, you know,
Speaker 4: because everything changed after that. I mean, Jim Morrison's dad
Speaker 4: was literally responsible for like the Tonkin Gulf incident which
Speaker 4: started the Vietnam War, which, by the way, the Vietnam
Speaker 4: War going on around Laurel Canyon times, big ass fucking
Speaker 4: blood ritual that didn't need to happen whatsoever. We did
Speaker 4: that shit, We started that ship and for what It's
Speaker 4: just yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, what what do you think about that about Vietnam? Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: besides the opium trade being set up through that I
Speaker 2: mean that's how it all. You know, Frank Lucas the
Speaker 2: whole if you've seen American Gangster, but I mean it
Speaker 2: was being supplied to him, I think by you see.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the same thing with Freeway Rick Ross,
Speaker 2: you know that guy too. But the the Vietnam War,
Speaker 2: you know, especially, I don't know, it just seems to
Speaker 2: me that we shouldn't I don't know, we shouldn't be
Speaker 2: fighting any of these wars. There's not one war I
Speaker 2: don't think that we should have ever really been in.
Speaker 1: Not one.
Speaker 4: They're all like huge blood rituals. But it was like
Speaker 4: they needed the bodies to power the ritual of what
Speaker 4: they were trying to pull off in the sixties. They
Speaker 4: needed the bodies. And you know, even besides that, if
Speaker 4: you look at like all the fucking people that just
Speaker 4: turned up fucking dead in the Laurel Canyon, there's like
Speaker 4: one hundred people.
Speaker 2: M damn. Yeah, that surprised me.
Speaker 4: That's there's like a whole murderless Oh oh, bless them.
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, I mean, think about war.
Speaker 2: There's gods that are dedicated to war. So war in
Speaker 2: itself is a ritual. You know, the entire like the
Speaker 2: war and then the blood, you know, depending on where
Speaker 2: you're fighting, is it being uh you know shed on
Speaker 2: on in Vietnam, it's being shed all over the earth, right,
Speaker 2: more than buildings and uh you know and and uh
Speaker 2: some city. But uh, you know, I I definitely think
Speaker 2: there's something to that that's actually something to look into.
Speaker 2: This is one of the never really touched, to be
Speaker 2: quite honest with you.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it goes along with everything that
Speaker 4: we talk about. I mean there's like weird murders, weird
Speaker 4: serial killers, the Manson family, all that shit came out
Speaker 4: of the sixties, Laurel Canyon, Vietnam, all of it. It's
Speaker 4: like a weird fucking program they were running.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I don't know that. So was
Speaker 2: Laurel Canyon tied into the Vietnam War.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was all like hippies and like with
Speaker 4: their signs and like we want peace and love and
Speaker 4: I will hang on.
Speaker 2: You're no. I told you look, look look everyone here knows.
Speaker 2: They've seen they've heard, my kids, my dog, my wife,
Speaker 2: my family. It's it's fine. You're you're on Gray Pield.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gets contankerous when I'm talking he wants to be
Speaker 4: a part of the show. But yeah, that's when that's
Speaker 4: when Maryland comes into it, because it's like she was
Speaker 4: part of the Laurel Canyon scene and part of the sixties.
Speaker 4: And I talked to people about all these weird ritualistic
Speaker 4: deaths that came out of the sixties, like you know,
Speaker 4: movie stars, James Dean and like a lot like Jim Morrison.
Speaker 2: Ooh guy, man, it seemed like those guys were just
Speaker 2: nothing but a sacrifice, right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If if they're even dead, they could have like staged.
Speaker 2: Some shit, you know what I'm saying that that you
Speaker 2: have to look at. But if they are dead, Julia,
Speaker 2: then like think about the how many of those I mean,
Speaker 2: they were all probably sacrifices right on some level, these people.
Speaker 2: And I think these people may have they were so
Speaker 2: spun out on LSD and and you know, opium and
Speaker 2: even harder shit. And yes, they they I think they
Speaker 2: definitely knew what they were doing. I mean what Jim
Speaker 2: Morrison called himself, the lizard came right, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he called everybody slaves and like whatever.
Speaker 2: And see, before we didn't know how to look at
Speaker 2: it through the same lens we look at it today.
Speaker 2: If he did that shit today, guaranteed he would I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think somebody would have gone and
Speaker 2: dragged him off the fucking stage. And you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, probably not, because if you think about it,
Speaker 2: the people that go to the mainstream events, you know,
Speaker 2: the big concerts, they are in some way slaves. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to say all of them, because some are
Speaker 2: you know, they want to take their kids. I personally
Speaker 2: will not after seeing the Astro World thing and and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, all all these other festivals and shows where
Speaker 2: there's weird energy there and just like like, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't want my kid to know that these people
Speaker 2: even exist, you know what I mean, Like it is
Speaker 2: these people are freaks, and uh yeah, so that's all
Speaker 2: my son. He can go to a show with me
Speaker 2: or something. I don't know, it's the.
Speaker 4: Same, yeah, because he might get sacrificed in the middle
Speaker 4: of a crowd. You never know.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, Travis Scott, That's what I was saying,
Speaker 2: you know. And it seems like so it seems like
Speaker 2: music has always in some way kind of carried on
Speaker 2: some some sort of sort of a sacrificial dark sacrificial ride.
Speaker 4: Well before before Astro World or whatever it was, they
Speaker 4: there was the Ultamont in Laurel Canyon with the rolling
Speaker 4: stones because they threw like a free concert or whatever,
Speaker 4: and they had the Hell's Angels there and a dude
Speaker 4: was literally stabbed to death, just bled out in the
Speaker 4: middle of the crowd while everybody was jumping around and singing.
Speaker 4: And that was like, it's like I said, it's just
Speaker 4: it's all part it's all weird and ritualistic and shit.
Speaker 4: And then you know the song American Pie, like bye
Speaker 4: Bye Miss American Pie. Yeah, they talk about the Ultimont
Speaker 4: concert in that song, about how it was a ritual
Speaker 4: and how it was for the devil and all this shit.
Speaker 2: I mean that surprise me.
Speaker 4: Google the lyrics, pull them up.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, did you said you had like a presentation
Speaker 2: or something?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Hang on, just Don Don what what's his.
Speaker 4: Name McCleary.
Speaker 2: Or I thought I was Don my fucking what's wrong
Speaker 2: with me?
Speaker 4: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Now that's the Eagles guy, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Up American Pie lyrics.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Uh I'm sorry, Yeah, it's it's Don McLean. Sorry,
Speaker 2: that's that's all me. Julia, all right, all right, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna pull these lyrics up. Oh she's there doing something
Speaker 2: the baby. All right, I'm gonna pull these lyrics up. Guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you go, if you go down. I think
Speaker 4: it's like the last this is.
Speaker 2: So there's somebody pop ups on that one. Hold on,
Speaker 2: let me, oh there's there's a is it on?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Fuck?
Speaker 2: Why would you even pull that up? Then?
Speaker 3: For me?
Speaker 2: Google? Fuck the lyrics. I'm trying to find the lyrics,
Speaker 2: but it's just given me quorra and Facebook. Okay, we're
Speaker 2: just gonna go to genius. There we go. But yeah,
Speaker 2: a bunch of pop ups. That's great. All right, share this,
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. It's probably some of the
Speaker 2: most happy melody you know, harmonic songs that have the
Speaker 2: darkest energy behind them. You feel me. Not in every case,
Speaker 2: but I think when on very popular songs that that
Speaker 2: you know, people sing for generations, there has to be
Speaker 2: some kind of hypnotic h some kind of hypnotism that
Speaker 2: they do with people to have that happen, right, I
Speaker 2: mean they can't. Song's not that good? Am I wrong? Julia?
Speaker 2: You good?
Speaker 4: You good?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: The baby? Okay? So we're gonna take a look at
Speaker 2: the lyrics. Guys, I should be waiting for Julia's dealing
Speaker 2: with the baby. I completely feel it. Let's see baby screaming. Well, hey,
Speaker 2: I literally got in the car and headed home and
Speaker 2: call my wife. And that's the first thing I heard
Speaker 2: was my daughter screaming because she wanted my dog to
Speaker 2: come with her and he didn't want to. She may
Speaker 2: I think he may be terrified of her.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: She shouldn't heard of her or any thing. She just
Speaker 2: chases him around.
Speaker 4: He doesn't like it. He's small.
Speaker 2: Julia is tending to her infant. God bless the little baby.
Speaker 2: We love babies, especially. You know, we need more white babies.
Speaker 2: You know, I have two arrows. I have to you
Speaker 2: and my wife have too. We want to have another one,
Speaker 2: but we just know that we can't right now.
Speaker 4: It would just be okay. So if you scroll all
Speaker 4: the way down to the bottom of this, I can
Speaker 4: show you exactly where it is. And thanks for your patients.
Speaker 2: Sorry, you're good, You're good. I have small talk. It's fine,
Speaker 2: Like I said, no more about it. So, yeah, these
Speaker 2: lyrics right here.
Speaker 4: Everybody knows this song too. That's the crazy thing and
Speaker 4: they like sing it and it's just like part of
Speaker 4: the you know, this is oldies everybody knows.
Speaker 2: Right, right, That's what I was saying, one of those
Speaker 2: could classics. They call it a could classic.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and you know to say, okay, so how
Speaker 4: many times have you heard this song? And how many
Speaker 4: times have you realized he makes references to the Manson family.
Speaker 4: He makes references to like literally is this this is
Speaker 4: like literally from the top, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, keep
Speaker 4: going down. I'll show you a couple of references here.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I remember hold on.
Speaker 4: And he mentions Buddy Holly's plane crashing here.
Speaker 2: And the coat he barred from James Dean.
Speaker 4: Oh there, yep, there goes a James Dean reference.
Speaker 2: When the Jester sang for the King and Queen and
Speaker 2: a coachy bar from James.
Speaker 4: Dean, and then okay, keep going okay, The Day the Music, Yeah,
Speaker 4: the Day the Music died.
Speaker 2: What a morbid title?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the Day the Music Died Buddy Holly, right,
Speaker 4: because that was like the end of an era. That
Speaker 4: was the end of the you know, American graffiti esque
Speaker 4: like holding hands and bubble gum, and then it was
Speaker 4: total debauchery after that. Yeah, yeah, okay, keep scrolling, scroll, scroll,
Speaker 4: helter skelter in a summer swelter. So that's about the
Speaker 4: Manson family. And then the birds obviously are the birds
Speaker 4: from the Laurel Canyon era. Keep going the band, right,
Speaker 4: like the band, And then I think the Sergeant's played
Speaker 4: a marching tune that could be a Beatles reference.
Speaker 2: And Sergeant Pepper, who's on the cover of Sergeant.
Speaker 4: Pepper, well, lots of people actually I know lots of people,
Speaker 4: but you know, you know, I know who and they're
Speaker 4: standing over a fucking grave.
Speaker 2: So in the Sergeant Peppers, you know, I'd I'd always
Speaker 2: just seen Crowley on there and been like, oh, they
Speaker 2: got Crowley on there, But now it's like.
Speaker 4: They have like they have well we can get into
Speaker 4: that in a minute, but keeps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'd love to take a look at who
Speaker 2: else they got. I never even you know, once I
Speaker 2: saw I was like, oh that's all that's yeah, you
Speaker 2: know that's you see that, you know?
Speaker 4: Okay, So the jack be nimble, Jack be quick. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's uh, the jack be nimble, Jack be quick. That's
Speaker 4: I want to say, jumpin jack flash. That's a rolling
Speaker 4: Stones reference right here. It says, okay, go up just
Speaker 4: a little bit. Yeah, so the jack be nimble, Jack
Speaker 4: be quick. That's a Rolling Stone song. The Rolling Stones
Speaker 4: were putting on a free concert at Altamont when that
Speaker 4: guy was stabbed to death, and it says Jack Flash
Speaker 4: sat on a candlestick. They had that song jumping Jack
Speaker 4: Flash or whatever, and it says cause fire is the
Speaker 4: Devil's only friend. And as I watched him on the stage,
Speaker 4: my hands were clinched and fists of rage. No angel
Speaker 4: born in Hell, because the Hell's angels were the security
Speaker 4: could break that Satan spell. And as the flames climbed
Speaker 4: high into the night to light the superficial, right, I
Speaker 4: saw Satan laughing with the light. The music died, Like
Speaker 4: how many times have you sang that song and not
Speaker 4: known what the fuck was?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Bye bye Miss American five. Everybody knows this song, but
Speaker 4: this whole last paragraph, Yeah yeah, it's a dude getting
Speaker 4: literally stabbed and sat out in the middle of a
Speaker 4: Rolling Stones concert. So that's why I say, like, when
Speaker 4: you look at the Laurel Canyon era, the sixties of
Speaker 4: Vietnam War and all the ritualism that went on with
Speaker 4: the uh, the music, the culture. If you can't be
Speaker 4: with the one you want, be with the one you're with,
Speaker 4: just fuck whoever be with whoever. Birth control pills were
Speaker 4: rolled out. I mean it was just like you know,
Speaker 4: free love whatever. And all of their fucking parents were
Speaker 4: in the military. I'm telling you all of them. And
Speaker 4: like with David Crosby, his family line goes all the
Speaker 4: way back to like signers of the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 2: Do you remember John Todd, the crazy Schizzo guy or well,
Speaker 2: he was a meth addict who claimed he was part
Speaker 2: of the Collins family, like the elite bloodline, and then
Speaker 2: he found Christ and exposed the Illuminati, but then was
Speaker 2: like locked up. There was there's those tapes of him
Speaker 2: on YouTube. You ever you ever heard of him?
Speaker 4: No, but I know of the Collins elite family actually
Speaker 4: have a whole conspiracy about them.
Speaker 2: Well, well it's it's it's the show that uh, what's
Speaker 2: the show that was based off of them? Dark Shadows
Speaker 2: was based off the family.
Speaker 4: That's part of my theory. I'm so glad you know
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, you need to watch me. Here a North American
Speaker 2: and Annie Asaru did an episode on John Todd where
Speaker 2: we go through. We listened to some of like his
Speaker 2: interview and his speech and we go through. I have
Speaker 2: like three pages of notes on them that I took.
Speaker 2: It was one of the first things I ever wanted
Speaker 2: to do a deep dive on, and I finally finally
Speaker 2: did it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Collins Family Dark Shadows.
Speaker 5: My mom.
Speaker 2: I grew watch the shows. Yeah, I grew up. It
Speaker 2: would come on TMC yeah in the mornings, and I'd
Speaker 2: wake up at like six in the morning and the
Speaker 2: sun would be like not up yet, real eerie Dark
Speaker 2: Shadows would be on and I would just sit there
Speaker 2: and love it and love it, love the feeling of
Speaker 2: being scared and just oh man, oh my god.
Speaker 4: I loved it. So my mom loved it. We watched
Speaker 4: it all the time. But when they came out with
Speaker 4: the Tim Burton one, of course it's Scott Johnny Depp
Speaker 4: playing Barnabas and like whatever. But they made it into
Speaker 4: a comedy, which I was cool with because it was funny, but.
Speaker 2: They could have justice with drama. Yeah, horror.
Speaker 4: Dra based it in like the Laurel Canyon era.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think, and all the soundtrack is Laurel Canyon
Speaker 4: music like fucking.
Speaker 2: You know programming or was that like done on I think?
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying. It's about this Collinsilly bloodline
Speaker 4: and all this ship. Right in the Vampire, it's got
Speaker 4: fucking Johnny Depp playing the main and soundtrack is Laurel Canyon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, if most people don't know,
Speaker 2: he is a I think a very uh high ranking
Speaker 2: wizard and whatever covin or oh sure, initiate one. He
Speaker 2: is a part of I think he is, you know,
Speaker 2: and has been for some time. That's why he's in
Speaker 2: so many movies. But what I was saying was John Todd,
Speaker 2: John Collins whatever he called himself. Like I said, the
Speaker 2: guy was kind of skitzo because he had been on meth.
Speaker 2: But apparently like he had there's he this whole story
Speaker 2: and it's a it's crazy. His story is you should definitely.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll check it out for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he runs into David Crosby from Crosby, Stills,
Speaker 2: Nash and Young and he asked him, Hey, so, uh,
Speaker 2: do y'all still do the ritual when you put the master,
Speaker 2: when you put the master on, when you put it
Speaker 2: all you like when you do the final product. And
Speaker 2: he's like yeah, and he's asked him all these questions
Speaker 2: and he's like, well, so he asked him something. He
Speaker 2: goes yes, she like he basically tells him, Uh, you
Speaker 2: have to be in initiated which or wizard to be
Speaker 2: a part of Hollywood fabulous taman industry. And that's I
Speaker 2: think that, you know, I mean that we know how
Speaker 2: many mystery schools exist, how many different types of magic
Speaker 2: there are in practitioner, you know, how many things people
Speaker 2: can practice, and how many deities they can they can worship, right, Like,
Speaker 2: people don't understand it's it's not all to the same deity.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean some in some cases, but so yeah,
Speaker 2: I definitely think there is some. Now that's interesting that
Speaker 2: you bring up. And that's so funny that it's always
Speaker 2: the seventies vibe that gets brought back right every time
Speaker 2: in the nineties. I guess it's a generation.
Speaker 4: Because because because the punk, the punk shit, the Nirvana
Speaker 4: shit it was, it's the It's Laurel Canyon two point zero.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: People need to understand that is they ran game on
Speaker 4: us in the sixties and seventies, but they ran the
Speaker 4: same game with the grunge, weird punk stuff like all
Speaker 4: of that is. I want to say, they've ran game
Speaker 4: on us like multiple times throughout different generations. It's like
Speaker 4: the first one was maybe Laurel Canyon, and then it
Speaker 4: was like grunge, and then it was like my generation
Speaker 4: with all the boy bands and like yeah, the Britney
Speaker 4: Spears is and like the Christina Aguileras and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: It's just it's the same program. It's just like repeated
Speaker 4: multiple times throughout.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up playing I talked about all of them.
Speaker 2: I know, people, I'm beating a dead horse. He's dead,
Speaker 2: dead and gone. Now I'm beating the horse ghosts. But
Speaker 2: I played drums growing up in hardcore and a few
Speaker 2: hardcore bands, punk hardcore, you know, metal, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it. There was. It was very like obscure
Speaker 2: genres of underground they music. It's something I've I've always
Speaker 2: been into both. I was a rapper at one point too, Julia,
Speaker 2: very dark time in my life, me and I both.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, so, it seems to me now
Speaker 2: that the punk rock scene was a si op. It
Speaker 2: was most of those guys are fags.
Speaker 4: Oh sure.
Speaker 2: The COVID thing happened. They were all licking the boot.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that had been on their damn neck their
Speaker 2: entire life that they have been raging against, like you know,
Speaker 2: the rage for the machine now or whatever. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Sam Tripley had a shirt that that's a you know,
Speaker 2: just calling calling it out because I mean it's it's uh.
Speaker 2: But when when you think about it, it's like, was
Speaker 2: that set up to be like that, to make all
Speaker 2: these people, you know, be rebellious towards their parents, and
Speaker 2: then now they're cutting their.
Speaker 4: Dicks off and you oh, they're doing all kinds of
Speaker 4: stuff that they're supporting, like the jabs and like something
Speaker 4: that I just recently was talking to my husband about
Speaker 4: because I was listening to the Ramones and he was like,
Speaker 4: I can't even listen to the Ramones. They have like
Speaker 4: a Pfeiser commercial and so it's like another one that
Speaker 4: really bothered me was I love nineties country. I'm a
Speaker 4: nineties country girl all the way and Dolly Parton all
Speaker 4: of those shitheads they had vaccine songs and like they
Speaker 4: were promoting this ship and it bothered me, And it's
Speaker 4: like you can't never look at them the same.
Speaker 2: Now and do vaccine. Yeah she did.
Speaker 4: She redid did Joe Lene, and she said vaccine vaccine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So that's why. That's what I'm saying, is like you can't.
Speaker 4: There's nothing sacred anymore, not even not even Dolly. And
Speaker 4: I fucking love Dolly.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it all. You know. My
Speaker 2: wife loves Dolly, dude. My daughter doesn't even know who
Speaker 2: Dolly is and has a name Dolly parton shirt.
Speaker 4: Oh I have a Holly Dolly Christmas setup with Dolly's
Speaker 4: face and like a little Santa hat, and like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's just it sucks because you can't enjoy anything anymore.
Speaker 2: It's all.
Speaker 4: And I think even like part of the Satanic Panic,
Speaker 4: it was all a program because the music that was
Speaker 4: coming out at the time, the murders, the weird stuff
Speaker 4: with like the West Memphis Three, all that. My husband
Speaker 4: and I have talked about that before because obviously, for
Speaker 4: those who don't know, he also is a conspiracy theories
Speaker 4: pod has a conspiracy theory. But yeah, we're just too
Speaker 4: Weirdo's in love. But that's awesome, he thinks, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: have to find someone who can match your crazy. Some
Speaker 4: kinds especially in twenty five. Yeah, and to raise.
Speaker 2: Kids, I would be I'd be a probably celibate, right,
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, I would uh slippery slope. Now
Speaker 2: I feel it's I'm truly yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 2: stay scared, but like, you know, kind of like for
Speaker 2: my son, I'm like, you know, these well, he are okay,
Speaker 2: he already has a girlfriend and her parents didn't know
Speaker 2: until recently. But uh, I think she may be older
Speaker 2: than him.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully she's she's in his grade though, But.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's enough conspiracy theory conspiracy theorists out there
Speaker 4: that are having kids. I think there could be hope
Speaker 4: for the future. But we'll have to start like a
Speaker 4: dating app for them so they can find each other
Speaker 4: because we're all spread out right, they're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 4: be homeschooled weirdos on a conspiracy theory dating site somewhere
Speaker 4: in the near future.
Speaker 2: That's a great idea we should, uh we could capitalize
Speaker 2: on that. You should do that, Julia.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm bouncing my baby right now. I don't
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be dating anytime soon. But I think
Speaker 4: for your kids, and like the kids.
Speaker 2: Have arranged marriages and yeah, I've already talked with with
Speaker 2: Restore Christen, the Nephel and Murder Crew. God bless the
Speaker 2: Pere because I think they may have betrothed their daughter
Speaker 2: to my son. I don't know. So you got kid.
Speaker 2: He can move the yard, and he can he can
Speaker 2: change the oil and and and the jeep.
Speaker 4: So that's all you need.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good kid. Uh, rough around the edges sometimes,
Speaker 2: you know, he has a mouth on him.
Speaker 4: That's all right.
Speaker 2: He's opinion very much like me when I you know,
Speaker 2: when your parents say, like, you need to be nice
Speaker 2: to me because you know your kids will treat you
Speaker 2: absolutely fucking right. There's anybody watching right now, I have
Speaker 2: any God forbid, I have any teenage fans. Be nice
Speaker 2: to your parents. Listen to them because they know what's
Speaker 2: best for you, unless they are telling you that you
Speaker 2: were the opposite.
Speaker 4: Gender, unless they're trying to stab you with heavy metal vaccines.
Speaker 2: That too, maybe distance.
Speaker 4: Cut your penis off.
Speaker 2: Well that yeah, yeah, anyway, I let's get back to uh.
Speaker 4: You know, well, I so the whole thing, like with
Speaker 4: that song and shit like that, is that there was
Speaker 4: so many like weird sacrifices and shit going on around
Speaker 4: the sixties, and I think it's continued on to today.
Speaker 4: It just looks different, like Amy Winehouse and like some
Speaker 4: shit like that. You can still find them if you
Speaker 4: look for him, But the sixties was just rampant with
Speaker 4: that shit. And one of the weirdest suicides that I
Speaker 4: can't believe people still think is a suicide came from
Speaker 4: the sixties, which was Marilyn Monroe. How people still think
Speaker 4: that's a genuine suicide after all this time. I will
Speaker 4: never fucking understand the breakdown.
Speaker 2: What was like they said happen and then what you
Speaker 2: found really happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So you know, she was discovered supposedly working
Speaker 4: in a factory during World War Two, but her backstory
Speaker 4: is all hazy because she grew up in like an
Speaker 4: orphanage or some shit like that. And I think they
Speaker 4: look for kids and orphanages. I think they look for
Speaker 4: like broken people and people that are easily manipulated to
Speaker 4: turn them into these megastars, use them in programs, and
Speaker 4: then later they become like weird sacrificial lambs. But Maryland,
Speaker 4: all those boxes, like had no family already was fucked
Speaker 4: up in the head, was desperate for attention, willing to
Speaker 4: do anything for a successful career. I mean, she literally
Speaker 4: checks all those boxes. And they changed her name, they
Speaker 4: changed her face, they bleached her hair, they did all
Speaker 4: of like the weird sex getting stuff to her, and
Speaker 4: she ends up hanging out with like politicians. She's fucking
Speaker 4: John F. Kennedy and his brother. Okay, some people don't
Speaker 4: realize that she was fucking both of them and she
Speaker 4: the police department even knew about it. They had some
Speaker 4: kind of weird Marilyn Monroe file, uh, and it was
Speaker 4: documented in there that she was fucking both of them
Speaker 4: and that it was some type of national security full
Speaker 4: because she was also fucking this guy that was a
Speaker 4: part of the Soviet Union or something like that, a
Speaker 4: Soviet spy. His name was Frederick Field. And so they
Speaker 4: had this file on her, and she was fucking a
Speaker 4: Chicago mafia boss name Sam g and Kannas. So she
Speaker 4: was fucking the mob and our president and some Soviet
Speaker 4: Union guy. And they had to keep tabs on her
Speaker 4: because she was doing some weird sex kit and stuff
Speaker 4: and obviously being used as an asset in some way,
Speaker 4: and they needed to keep track of her so the
Speaker 4: US government and separately the mob had her house and
Speaker 4: her phone tapped, so they they heard all of her
Speaker 4: phone calls and any conversation that went in the house.
Speaker 4: So not only were the mob keeping tabs on her,
Speaker 4: the US government was, so she was getting double tapped,
Speaker 4: literally double tapped by the President and his brother, double
Speaker 4: tapped by the mob, and the government double like literally
Speaker 4: getting trained ran on her from all directions. Her phone's tapped,
Speaker 4: her house is bugged place, even like her friends' houses
Speaker 4: that she would like frequently go and spend time, their
Speaker 4: houses were all bugged, and so they were keeping a
Speaker 4: really close eye on her. And she pulled this stunt
Speaker 4: at the President's birthday where everybody knows this. She wore
Speaker 4: like a completely transparent see through dress saying happy birthday
Speaker 4: to the president. She was actually uninvited from his birthday party,
Speaker 4: and she was like, well, fuck you, I'm Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna show up. Anyways. Not only did she show up,
Speaker 4: she showed up in a transparent dress. You could see
Speaker 4: her whole ass in vagina hanging out and she was
Speaker 4: hanging all over. Well that's I mean, that's a power move.
Speaker 4: If I ever saw one. It's like, we disinvited you
Speaker 4: from the party, and she's like, fuck you. Not only
Speaker 4: am I coming, I'm gonna show up naked basically, and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sing to the president. So she pulled that
Speaker 4: little stunt and it was like a like a month
Speaker 4: later something like that, she shows up dead. Now they
Speaker 4: say that she committed suicide. There is This is my problem,
Speaker 4: and this is what I'll start with for anybody who's
Speaker 4: gonna argue with me about this, because there is no argument. Really.
Speaker 4: There is probably twenty thirty Marilyn Monroe documentaries out there
Speaker 4: that people can tell me to watch, like, oh, look
Speaker 4: how sad she was, Look how depressied she was. Look
Speaker 4: she had a horrible life. Oh she had a bunch
Speaker 4: of miscarriages and she just could never get over it.
Speaker 4: That's why she killed herself. That's fine. And I'm sure
Speaker 4: netflixon Hulu and Amazon Prime and HBO Max would love
Speaker 4: for you to believe that Marilyn was just a severely
Speaker 4: depressed pill head who just couldn't take one more fucking
Speaker 4: undercover operation and she just had to end it. Whatever,
Speaker 4: that's what they want you to believe. The forensic evidence,
Speaker 4: not my opinion. My opinion would be, you know, I
Speaker 4: think she didn't kill herself. This is different. This is
Speaker 4: forensic evidence. This is not an opinion. She couldn't have
Speaker 4: killed herself, so right, that's different. That's different from me
Speaker 4: saying I believe she might have been like a sacrificial lamb.
Speaker 4: That's an opinion. The evidence is they found that she
Speaker 4: had sixty to seventy nimbutah in her system in nineteen
Speaker 4: to twenty chloral hydrate tablets in her system. So let's
Speaker 4: just break that down. The amount of nimbutol and chloral
Speaker 4: hydrate found in her system, particularly her liver, would suggest
Speaker 4: that she swallowed sixty to seventy nimbutah, which is a
Speaker 4: sleeping pill, and nineteen to twenty chloral hydrate tablets. Fine,
Speaker 4: that's a massive overdose. And I don't know anybody who
Speaker 4: can dry swallow sixty to seventy nimbutah in nineteen to
Speaker 4: twenty chloral hydrate tablets. And I'll tell you why she
Speaker 4: would have had to dry swallow them in a minute.
Speaker 4: But congrats for her if she was able to do that.
Speaker 4: The problem is when they cracked her stomach open, there
Speaker 4: were no tablets found in her stomach, No trace of
Speaker 4: a tablet, no uh, fragments of a tablet, No refractive crystals,
Speaker 4: which is what pills break down, as you know, as
Speaker 4: they're digested, they turn into these refractive crystals. So no tablets,
Speaker 4: no refractive crystals. And nimbutohl has like this weird yellow dye.
Speaker 4: I guess that coats. It's like a candy coated motherfucker.
Speaker 4: And there was none of that. So how then if
Speaker 4: she killed herself by swallowing pills, which is what they
Speaker 4: want you to believe, how is it then that she
Speaker 4: has no trace whatsoever of any tablets in her stomach period.
Speaker 2: Well, someone in the chat is saying that they shoved
Speaker 2: them up her her ass.
Speaker 4: They did, And I don't know a lot of people
Speaker 4: who commit suicide by liquefying nimbutol and chlorohydrate and then
Speaker 4: squirting it up their ass. I don't know a lot
Speaker 4: of people who commit suicide that way. If you look
Speaker 4: at all the newspapers, they took a picture of her
Speaker 4: face down, completely naked, with the sheet barely covering her,
Speaker 4: and some weirdo pointing at a bottle of pills next
Speaker 4: to the nightstand, and the headline was like Maryland dead,
Speaker 4: swallowed pills. They made sure to emphasize that she swallowed
Speaker 4: pills and pointed at the pill bottle for this photo
Speaker 4: shoot or whatever, and they kept like driving at home
Speaker 4: that Maryland committed suicide by swallowing pills, swallowing pills. And
Speaker 4: the officer, the first officer on the scene, his name
Speaker 4: was Sergeant Jack Clemens. He said, when he arrived at
Speaker 4: the scene, there was already a house full of people
Speaker 4: there before they ever called the cops. They called like
Speaker 4: her psychiatrist, and her primary care provider, and her publicist,
Speaker 4: and like her maid was there, and there was just
Speaker 4: a house full of people. And he said, there was
Speaker 4: no pill bottle any fucking where when he got there.
Speaker 4: There's no pill bottle in the room, there was no
Speaker 4: pill bottle on the nightstand, there was no fucking pills anywhere.
Speaker 4: There was no drinking glass anywhere. And actually Marylyn was
Speaker 4: renovating her house at the time, and they had shut
Speaker 4: the water off to her house. So if this is
Speaker 4: what we're supposed to believe, and she dry swallowed sixty
Speaker 4: to seventy nmbutah in nineteen to twenty chloral hydrate, she
Speaker 4: would have had a dry swallow them, and there was
Speaker 4: no drinking glass in the room, and there was no
Speaker 4: bottle of pills in the room, and there's no tablets
Speaker 4: in her stomach when they do the autopsy. So you
Speaker 4: explained to me how that fucking makes sense at all
Speaker 4: for a classic suicide case. And right before, like the
Speaker 4: uh newspaper people and all, like the tabloid whatever, before
Speaker 4: they got there, Sergeant Jack Clemens left the room to
Speaker 4: interview the housekeeper, and when he got back, there goes
Speaker 4: a drinking glass and a bottle of pills next to
Speaker 4: the nightstand, right before its fucking photo shoot time. So
Speaker 4: I mean literally, and this guy wasn't allowed to testify, disallowed.
Speaker 2: To kind of like that guy from January sixth, right,
Speaker 2: uh ray uh ray Epps. You remember that guy that
Speaker 2: had the maga hat on was telling everyone to go
Speaker 2: in the capitol and then you know everyone was calling
Speaker 2: him a fed and he was kind of like.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, if you have something, if you have
Speaker 4: anything worthwhile to say at all, you're gonna be disallowed
Speaker 4: from fucking saying anything because this sergeant, he said, in
Speaker 4: his experience when he has responded to a murder scene,
Speaker 4: crime scene death scene whatever, And the person has overdosed
Speaker 4: themselves on like orally on sedative drugs or whatever. Your
Speaker 4: body goes into like evacuation mode. Halfway through digesting the.
Speaker 2: Amount of can you start shitting everywhere?
Speaker 4: You start puking everywhere? Nice, because your body's like trying
Speaker 4: to keep you alive. So like halfway through digesting that
Speaker 4: overload of medication you just took, you start fucking projectile
Speaker 4: vomiting everywhere. And the sergeant that responded to the nine
Speaker 4: to one to one call or whatever for Maryland, he said,
Speaker 4: it was the cleanest death scene i've especially if this
Speaker 4: is supposed to be a suicide by oral overdose. There's
Speaker 4: no vomit anywhere. The sheets look freshly cleaned. It was
Speaker 4: like when he got there, the housekeeper was on. She said,
Speaker 4: like her third load of laundry or something like that,
Speaker 4: so the sheets looked freshly laundered. There's no vomit anywhere,
Speaker 4: There's no nothing on her face. Nothing. I mean, when
Speaker 4: you when your body starts evacuating this ship, you almost
Speaker 4: have to wonder if part of your death is an aspiration,
Speaker 4: because you're you're.
Speaker 2: Just did anyone see her that night?
Speaker 4: Robert Kennedy saw her that morning.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's where I was getting to. What do
Speaker 2: you think the Kennedy brothers besides uh, double teaming her?
Speaker 2: It's interesting, what do you think they are? I mean,
Speaker 2: what knowledge did they give to her? Because they I
Speaker 2: think it was definitely things that they told her that
Speaker 2: other people figured out she knew and they were.
Speaker 4: Like, hey, definitely, definitely and if.
Speaker 2: You get on you gotta go and your brother. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The fact that the Kennedy brothers died not long after Marylyn,
Speaker 4: A lot of people want to go, oh, it was
Speaker 4: the Kennedy brothers that got Marylyn killed. I don't think so,
Speaker 4: because they got killed too. It's actually a third party
Speaker 4: that wanted all of them dead. Yeah. Probably, And he's
Speaker 4: a mass murderer. If people don't know that, there was
Speaker 4: this guy I think his name was Mac something or
Speaker 4: other that used to be like his hit man, and
Speaker 4: he murdered this dude. He sent this Lyndon B. Johnson
Speaker 4: sent his hit man, his name is Mac something, to
Speaker 4: this dude's house that had discovered he was laundering money.
Speaker 4: He blasted him in the chest with a shotgun like
Speaker 4: eight times, and then they had it ruled a suicide.
Speaker 4: So I don't know how in the world after you've
Speaker 4: loaded and blasted yourself in the chest with a shot gun,
Speaker 4: once you get back up and then you seven more
Speaker 4: times should blast your own self in the chest and
Speaker 4: all while having he had like a chloroform rag over
Speaker 4: his face, so he chloroformed himself and then blasted his
Speaker 4: own chest out with a shotgun eight times. According to
Speaker 4: Lyndon B. Johnson, like the guy's the scumbag. The guy's
Speaker 4: literally a mass murderer for those who don't know. So
Speaker 4: who then is responsible for Maryland's death if it wasn't
Speaker 4: the Kennedy brothers, because I think that they were set
Speaker 4: up to make it look like it was the Kennedy brothers.
Speaker 4: John F. Kennedy had really pissed off the mob in
Speaker 4: more ways than one. He said that, you know, he
Speaker 4: got all of their support when it was like time
Speaker 4: to like run for office and shit, and then when
Speaker 4: he got in there, yeah, he basically like.
Speaker 2: Attorney general and then he went after.
Speaker 4: Them and he yeah, like he went after them after
Speaker 4: they fucking helped him out, So you know, stay with dad.
Speaker 2: Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger bloodline and Illuminati bloodline allegedly right, yeah, and.
Speaker 4: He's supposedly gay. Their dad had like some weird guy
Speaker 4: that was just like lived with them at the White
Speaker 4: House and ship like that or wherever they were living.
Speaker 4: But because Robert visited Maryland that morning, the neighbors reported
Speaker 4: them fighting and hearing them screaming at each other, and
Speaker 4: then he left and she died that night, and a
Speaker 4: lot of people think, oh, it had to be the
Speaker 4: Kennedy brother I mean, she was fighting with them, she
Speaker 4: was doing whatever I heard. House was tapped by the
Speaker 4: government and the mob. I think that the mob set
Speaker 4: it up to look like it was the Kennedy brothers.
Speaker 4: But they had actually made a habit out of killing
Speaker 4: people by deadly enemas. That was like one of their things.
Speaker 4: That was like their go to thing. If they wanted
Speaker 4: like an untraceable type of death, not to stab them
Speaker 4: or shoot them or whatever, they would give people deadly enemas.
Speaker 4: And that's what Marilyn got. Her colon was purple, it
Speaker 4: was swollen, it was twice the size that it should
Speaker 4: have been. She had bruises on the back of both
Speaker 4: of her legs like she had been held down. She
Speaker 4: had bruises on her butt cheeks, and so I don't
Speaker 4: know a lot of people who commit suicide by holding
Speaker 4: their own self down, Like how was she a contortionist
Speaker 4: to she gave herself bruises on the backs of her
Speaker 4: legs and her butt cheeks. And she also then like
Speaker 4: shoved a huge dildo up her ass, but took it
Speaker 4: out right before she died, Like why, Like the forensic
Speaker 4: evidence does not suggest that this was a suicide whatsoever.
Speaker 4: And she actually she had called her hair girl like
Speaker 4: thirty minutes before she died and was like, hey, girl,
Speaker 4: just want to let you know I'm gonna make it
Speaker 4: to my appointment tomorrow morning, looking forward to it. Whatever.
Speaker 4: And that was like the last phone call she made.
Speaker 4: And it's like, why would you, like in the throes
Speaker 4: of murdering yourself, why are you gonna call and like
Speaker 4: confirm your hair appointment for the next day and shit
Speaker 4: like that, Like none of it made sense whatsoever. She
Speaker 4: also had something called.
Speaker 2: Oh what is it.
Speaker 4: Where you die so fast cyanosis? You die so rapidly
Speaker 4: that like your blood vessels burst and if you if
Speaker 4: you take it like a sedative overdose, you die real
Speaker 4: slow as your body digests the medications, and then you
Speaker 4: go through like the agonal phases where you're vomiting and
Speaker 4: like shitting or whatever. None of that was none of
Speaker 4: that was clear in Marylyn's death. Actually it was the
Speaker 4: opposite where if you, if you like, took a massive overdose,
Speaker 4: like if you like injected yourself with a massive overdose,
Speaker 4: you would have cyanosis.
Speaker 2: I would just say, shout out another fellow reject of ours,
Speaker 2: Robbie Marsh. He says, injections behind the knees and underarm.
Speaker 2: So I mean that mm hmm, that lines. I mean
Speaker 2: that's probably how most people, you know, when when it's
Speaker 2: made to look a certain way, you know it's it's
Speaker 2: it's the opposite, right.
Speaker 4: It is the opposite. I mean, and they're they're so
Speaker 4: slick about it too. But if you know what you're
Speaker 4: looking for, obviously, like with the autopsy, it's not there's
Speaker 4: no indication that she killed herself whatsoever. She had lividity markings.
Speaker 4: That so, lividity is when your blood settles after you die.
Speaker 4: Every dead body is going to have lividity markings. But
Speaker 4: what the lividity markings in Maryland's case showed is that
Speaker 4: she died face down in what's called the soldier's position,
Speaker 4: with her arms and legs down and at the sides,
Speaker 4: with her head hanging off the bed, and then at
Speaker 4: some point after her death, she was rolled over onto
Speaker 4: her back for a considerable period of time they say,
Speaker 4: probably four hours, and then at some point before Sergeant
Speaker 4: Clemens arrived, she was rolled back into the face down
Speaker 4: death position. So again not my opinion, this is the forensic.
Speaker 4: Her fucking body showed lividity markings, showed that she had
Speaker 4: been moved several times after how many fucking dead people
Speaker 4: do you know that just rolls around like are you
Speaker 4: kidding me? Like bloated and like I don't know, Oh,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like she killed herself. She committed suicide,
Speaker 4: she took all these pills, and then after she died,
Speaker 4: she rolled around in the bed for a couple hours,
Speaker 4: Like none of this is making sense for the story.
Speaker 2: And well, I was gonna ask you we we had
Speaker 2: the keen kill ritual that that we've seen with JFK
Speaker 2: and like Franz Ferdinand and like all these other people,
Speaker 2: is there I wonder if there's some kind of uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know, feminine occult like to some kind of
Speaker 2: I will tell you that I think that.
Speaker 4: I think that there is. And this is where I
Speaker 4: kind of talk about eyes wide shut and like the
Speaker 4: weird rituals they have with women, and like being naked.
Speaker 4: And she was a sex symbol. She was known for
Speaker 4: being gorgeous, beautiful, could have whoever she wanted, literally the president.
Speaker 4: And in the death photos, she's naked, no makeup on,
Speaker 4: her hair's all matted to her head. She looks horrible,
Speaker 4: she looks almost like unrecognizable. And I do think it
Speaker 4: was like a humiliation ritual for her. And the address
Speaker 4: in the house where she was murdered was six oh
Speaker 4: five Helena Drive or something like that.
Speaker 2: Let me find it, and clockwasse says the horror Babylon archetype. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you could also put Princess Diana under.
Speaker 4: The same yeah.
Speaker 2: Ye, and she wasn't really the same boat, but she wasn't.
Speaker 2: She was more of like a U. And this is
Speaker 2: just a what would be like a euphemism or metaphor,
Speaker 2: because Mother Teresa, we know now, was a terrible person,
Speaker 2: but like a Mother Teresa type figure, you know.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean so she definitely was like the
Speaker 4: horror of Babylon or whatever she was in these weird
Speaker 4: sex kitten operations, and so the address was one two
Speaker 4: three oh five fifth Helena Drive. And the little girl
Speaker 4: in Eyes Wide Shut that gets sacrificed at the end
Speaker 4: in my opinion, because she's being led off by two
Speaker 4: dudes at the end of the movie and her mom
Speaker 4: is Alice. Right, And I don't know if you've paid
Speaker 4: much attention to that movie, but it's like just a
Speaker 4: big it's all about like weird ritualistic shit. But the
Speaker 4: little girl in Eyes White Chat her name is Helena,
Speaker 4: and I do think that there is like some it's
Speaker 4: they could have really murdered her anywhere.
Speaker 2: Well they that's they took her at at the end, right,
Speaker 2: They Yeah, they did.
Speaker 4: The little girl. They took her at the very end
Speaker 4: of the movie.
Speaker 2: You know, no one if you don't know what to
Speaker 2: look for. I'm sure they first saw that in theaters,
Speaker 2: saw that and were just like, you know, just like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're just in a toy store.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: The crazy part about that too, is like if you
Speaker 4: look in the toy store as they're walking down the aisles,
Speaker 4: there's a there's a gentleman. Gentleman's preferd Blondes, Marilyn Monroe,
Speaker 4: Barbie and it's like right there in in like the
Speaker 4: side of the isle, and you know, you talk about
Speaker 4: Princess Diana. The song Candle in the Wind is Elton John.
Speaker 4: He talks a lot about writing his songs in which language.
Speaker 4: He wrote Candle in the Wind for Maryland, and then
Speaker 4: when Princess Diana died, he rewrote the lyrics and sang
Speaker 4: it at her funeral. So it's just it's all connected.
Speaker 4: It's all ritualistic. And I know Diana didn't die in
Speaker 4: the sixties, but Maryland did, and so did you know JFK.
Speaker 4: And it's again, it's like this weird like people getting
Speaker 4: stabbed to death of concerts, Hippie movement, Vietnam War, Marilyn
Speaker 4: Monroe's suicide, like all this stuff. It's like what a
Speaker 4: time to be alive. Really in the nineteen sixties. I'm
Speaker 4: surprised anyone even made it the fuck out.
Speaker 2: And I mean you could say that, I'm sure. I
Speaker 2: mean people made it out mentally.
Speaker 4: You know, right, And like that's got to play a
Speaker 4: part in like the way that like how we've ended
Speaker 4: up here, because it was so successful that they just
Speaker 4: kept repeating it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think there was a veil that was opened
Speaker 2: up during that time, and then a veil a little
Speaker 2: later on with nine to eleven, and uh, you know
Speaker 2: they're shorely uh completing these smaller like all these smaller
Speaker 2: sacrificial rides in these little rituals here and there for
Speaker 2: this much larger uh much larger ritual.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And the thing too is like the guy
Speaker 4: who did Marilyn's autopsy, he he couldn't believe his eyes
Speaker 4: basically when he saw all this because he was like, oh,
Speaker 4: she didn't kill herself. And he went to like retest
Speaker 4: all the samples of her organs, and somebody had fucking
Speaker 4: taken them all and they were gone. They had this
Speaker 4: disappeared and some guy from like the Pentagon took the
Speaker 4: file with all the shit and they he never saw
Speaker 4: it again, and her body went missing for like four
Speaker 4: hours or something like that before her funeral. And you know,
Speaker 4: it's like you it's like, literally, for anybody who pays
Speaker 4: like thirty minutes of attention to Marilyn's suicide quote unquote,
Speaker 4: we'll find out that they've been running game on us,
Speaker 4: suiciding people for forever long. I mean, like, that's why
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: This information and still think it and think anything different
Speaker 2: than than she was. Becuse they come out with the
Speaker 2: sacrificed by.
Speaker 4: The Netflix documentaries.
Speaker 2: Fucking Netflix, because oh, she was.
Speaker 4: So sad and she was depressed. You know, sometimes I
Speaker 4: feel a little blue. Okay, sometimes I'm having a bad day.
Speaker 4: I'm not even Marilyn Monroe. I can't imagine the type
Speaker 4: of life she had, or how fucked up she was,
Speaker 4: or how sad she was. But she didn't kill herself, right, Like,
Speaker 4: you can be depressed and not kill yourself. Like those
Speaker 4: two things can exist at the same time. You can
Speaker 4: be Marilyn Monroe. You can be depressed, you can have
Speaker 4: a shitty life and still not want to kill yourself.
Speaker 4: I mean, she was getting help, like she was having
Speaker 4: trouble sleeping and shit like that. But all of her
Speaker 4: psychiatrist sessions were taped, and when you listen back to
Speaker 4: those tapes, she was actually really hopeful for the future.
Speaker 4: She was working on like a bunch of like new
Speaker 4: projects and movies and all this shit, and she was
Speaker 4: you know, it's like people who are hopeful for the future,
Speaker 4: who confirmed their hair appointment for the next morning, Like,
Speaker 4: these aren't usually the people that suicide themselves, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's so funny.
Speaker 2: You see that happened so much in that in that industry, right,
Speaker 2: and it's because you know, maybe some some of the
Speaker 2: people were really sad and trying to escape demons that
Speaker 2: that they really couldn't shake.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, but you can say that about Kurt Cobain, and.
Speaker 5: He didn't kill himself either, right, Right when you look
Speaker 5: at it, it's like, well wait a minute, I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, that could be true, but the evidence
Speaker 5: it's like your your your eyes aren't lying to.
Speaker 2: You, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: He pulled the trigger with his fucking shoe on his
Speaker 4: fucking like the way that he would have had to
Speaker 4: have killed himself, he would have had to use his
Speaker 4: toe to pull the right before he shot himself. He
Speaker 4: also went downstairs and slashed his own tires. And like
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, like I said, you can be a
Speaker 4: tortured soul, Okay, you can be a terribly miserable person
Speaker 4: but still get murdered, right, Amy Winehouse, Britney Murphy, Kurt Cobain,
Speaker 4: Marilyn Monroe. People need to look at this shit. They
Speaker 4: did not kill themselves.
Speaker 2: You could say it was ritualistic, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: it could have been because they were trying to speak
Speaker 2: up about something.
Speaker 4: You know, and or it was time to pay the
Speaker 4: fiddler who fucking knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could have known, like I said earlier, they
Speaker 2: could have known that they were gonna be offered up
Speaker 2: for a sacrifice. M hmm one day.
Speaker 4: You know, like they didn't know when their time was
Speaker 4: gonna come, but they knew that it was gonna come
Speaker 4: around eventually. But I you know, they used music and
Speaker 4: movies and actresses and whatever. We fall in love with
Speaker 4: these people. We idolize these people like the you know,
Speaker 4: they say golden idols or whatever, and then they murder
Speaker 4: them in front of us. And then they say, like
Speaker 4: they killed themselves and how sad it is, And it's
Speaker 4: all part it's all part of the programming. It's all
Speaker 4: part of like the trauma based mind control. You know,
Speaker 4: all of the people that you idolize as a kid,
Speaker 4: you grow up and realize that they were their parents
Speaker 4: were in the military, and this it was all fake
Speaker 4: and staged and they you know, it's just it's a shame, really.
Speaker 2: It's it's sad. Yeah, No, it's it's actually very sad.
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, where these people's souls at
Speaker 2: when when this happens, Like where are where are they? Spiritually?
Speaker 4: M Yeah, And I mean it's kind of like what
Speaker 4: you were saying at the beginning of the episode. And
Speaker 4: that's why I asked you. I do think at some level,
Speaker 4: Hollywood industry, you know, like the entertainment industry, the government, uh,
Speaker 4: they're NASA, they're all in cahoots with spiritualism that we
Speaker 4: don't understand. There is a war for your soul and
Speaker 4: we're victims of it. Even someone like you and I
Speaker 4: who try to like understand this shit, we still get
Speaker 4: caught up in it, right because we all have music
Speaker 4: and movies and shit that we like to like listen
Speaker 4: to and watch and whatever. And it's it's like they
Speaker 4: if it wasn't successful, they wouldn't do it. If it
Speaker 4: if they weren't getting results, they would stop doing it.
Speaker 4: Laurel Canyon. Music is great and everybody loves it. It
Speaker 4: sounds wonderful. Nirvana was great. Everybody loved it. It was wonderful.
Speaker 4: Disney Channel, everybody loved it was wonderful. I mean, like
Speaker 4: they they literally draw us in with like magic.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, you're good, You're good. No, well, speaking of magic,
Speaker 2: yeah no, And that's one main component behind it, I think.
Speaker 2: And it's been like this since antiquity.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this old black magic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been the rulers and the elite class, and
Speaker 2: people think that, you know, they're at the top. What
Speaker 2: they don't know is that the people really pulling the
Speaker 2: strings are the priests, the king priests, so to say,
Speaker 2: of these ancient of these ancient cults, these ancient mystery cults,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, they are the ones that communicate
Speaker 2: with the gods or with their God, with their certain
Speaker 2: deity whoever they worship.
Speaker 4: And well it's just like in the Bible, you know,
Speaker 4: Psalms means songs, and David danced before the Lord and
Speaker 4: sing a new song, and like there is so many
Speaker 4: references to like dance and singing and vibration, and.
Speaker 2: There's references to I mean, there's stuff that aligns with
Speaker 2: the Druidic mystery schools. And people may not know this,
Speaker 2: but Jacob when he wrestles with God, is he is
Speaker 2: going through an initiation the Yeah, it's Moses was doing
Speaker 2: magic in the desert. He was, he was out there
Speaker 2: talking to multiple entities and they were.
Speaker 4: Tricks and ship by fire, blittant.
Speaker 2: Fire at night, by clouds that day. And you know,
Speaker 2: I mean he came from kimm It, where alchemy was created.
Speaker 2: You know, I have a theory that he was an
Speaker 2: out chemists. He's been portrayed with the alchemical horns coming
Speaker 2: from his uh you know, his light. You know, some
Speaker 2: people why is Moses portrayed with horns? And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: well why was he holding the caduceus?
Speaker 4: And he was raised as a prince of Egypt.
Speaker 2: He was raised in the mystery schools.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the all the he was raised
Speaker 2: in the uh the main castle or you know, the
Speaker 2: main the main uh palace. All the elite, Yeah, all
Speaker 2: the royalty and the elite were all involved in the mysteries.
Speaker 2: And they themselves would you know, they didn't, like I said,
Speaker 2: they didn't communicate with the gods. That was for the priests.
Speaker 2: They still they had to say and and and everything.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: That's well that's if if you know the or the
Speaker 2: if the god was not there physically, you know, manifesting
Speaker 2: or whatever, that's that's another story, because you know, once
Speaker 2: in Egypt the gods walked among men.
Speaker 4: So but that's because they don't they don't want you
Speaker 4: to think that the hieroglyphics could be literal, but they probably.
Speaker 2: Are the literal and symbolic, you know, the ave so
Speaker 2: below the microcosm macrocosm. You know, I definitely think what
Speaker 2: happens in other realms manifest here for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is about all the time I'm
Speaker 4: gonna have with little stinker.
Speaker 1: I know, I know.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, we're probably gonna get out
Speaker 2: of here, here and here in a minute. Guys, Julia,
Speaker 2: this was fun and we need to get together sometime
Speaker 2: some other time, maybe on on a weekend when I
Speaker 2: haven't when I haven't worked all day. I you know,
Speaker 2: I always give myself a hard time, and I'm like
Speaker 2: I I never think that I do a good job
Speaker 2: during the week, but then my audience tells me differently.
Speaker 2: So wow, I think it.
Speaker 4: Was a great conversation. It was last I love talking
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure, And yeah we could definitely
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