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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It is Thursday, so
Speaker 3: it is Poppin' Bravo day. We're going to talk about Bravo.
Speaker 3: We got a lot to talk about. I've got my
Speaker 3: friend Mandy Slitsker here.
Speaker 4: Mandy, thank you so much for having me. I love
Speaker 4: chatting with you.
Speaker 3: I know we have the best time. The words is Sonia.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Mandy, Let's let's start off with Sonia.
Speaker 5: What does she do eat? What's going on with Sonya?
Speaker 3: Just miss you didn't miss anything. I just keep seeing
Speaker 3: these crazy videos and things of her. Sonya Lesque Cabrella.
Speaker 4: I went to that like multiple years ago, and it
Speaker 4: made me kind of sad because she is so quick
Speaker 4: and so funny, yes, and so beautiful, and it feels
Speaker 4: like she's on something that is making her like half
Speaker 4: as quick and funny.
Speaker 3: Is it called alcohol?
Speaker 5: I don't think it's alcohol. It could be, it could be,
Speaker 5: but I feel like she's just.
Speaker 4: Like very I don't know, like in and out and
Speaker 4: you'll think she's kind of out of it, and then
Speaker 4: she'll say something really quick and funny and you're like, okay,
Speaker 4: but I don't know. At a certain age, it's just
Speaker 4: really like do you need that?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess an age doesn't matter. It's just she is
Speaker 4: so fantastic as she is. Yes, she doesn't need anything else.
Speaker 5: And I wish she believed that too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's interesting, right because people are showing her, you know,
Speaker 3: doing her dances and what I'm like, okay, well we've
Speaker 3: seen this she does. She humps on a chair and whatever.
Speaker 3: That's great. But I think that when you're seeing the
Speaker 3: clips of like when the audience participations asking her questions,
Speaker 3: that would be her time to shine because she is
Speaker 3: so funny and so honest, you know. But you know,
Speaker 3: like the thing that she did when they the guy
Speaker 3: stood up and said his name was Ryan, is that
Speaker 3: what she did? And she was like, oh Ryan, why?
Speaker 3: Like I support that oh foundation, and you're like, that's
Speaker 3: the guy just said with his name, Like, what are
Speaker 3: you talking about? Like she, I don't know.
Speaker 4: She just I wish she just was sober like that.
Speaker 4: That's all I want to say. Like, I just think
Speaker 4: she is in the same way that Countess Luanne is
Speaker 4: enough like Countess Lan she does not need alcohol, and
Speaker 4: you see her when she's sober, and she's fantastic. She's incredible.
Speaker 4: I love seeing her perform. I feel the same way
Speaker 4: about Sonya. Something about the way that they consume alcohol
Speaker 4: or whatever makes it kind of like lunths.
Speaker 6: They're oh, they're they're shine, Yes, they don't fully shine
Speaker 6: when they're doing that, and I want to see the
Speaker 6: full shine of Sonia.
Speaker 3: Are you going to Counsel Lane's show at the birch Mirror,
Speaker 3: which I think is in November.
Speaker 5: Where's the Birchmere.
Speaker 3: It's in Arlington. It's pretty close to Alexandria.
Speaker 5: I'll go with you if I'm in town for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay. My daughter's like, can we go? I was like,
Speaker 3: I've seen it, done it, I've seen it too.
Speaker 4: I'm most interested in going to Bravo Con, which is
Speaker 4: also in November.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, we're doing that.
Speaker 5: I know, but I you know, I never know if
Speaker 5: I'm going to get tickets or not. It's so hard.
Speaker 3: You're getting tickets. We're all getting tickets.
Speaker 5: We're all trying. I'm trying.
Speaker 3: We're doing it, doing the Bravo ticket. Yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to do some sort of like bunky meetup while I'm there.
Speaker 3: Ryan Bailey said he might want to do it. Ace
Speaker 3: Fanning said he might want to do it. So Inger's
Speaker 3: been looking into that. So we're going like whether we
Speaker 3: have tickets or not. Yeah, you know, you will see
Speaker 3: us there. We might just be walking around outside, but
Speaker 3: we'll be there. So yeah, guys, if we don't, nobody
Speaker 3: gives us anything. Nobody gives us free tickets, so don't.
Speaker 5: It don't be free tickets to anyone.
Speaker 3: No, we'd be paying for that ship. Yeah yeah, nobody,
Speaker 3: not even Crappens. They don't get free tickets.
Speaker 6: No. I know.
Speaker 5: It's it's wild.
Speaker 3: Listen to this meetie. Today, I was on the phone
Speaker 3: with a service provider I'll just say that way, and
Speaker 3: I was giving them my address and whatnot, and I
Speaker 3: said I needed better high speed internet and they said okay.
Speaker 3: I said, because here's a lot of working from home,
Speaker 3: and I'm a podcaster, so I use I need like
Speaker 3: the best internet. And the service provider said, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: what's your podcast? So I said it's Pink Shade. She says, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know that one. What do you talk about?
Speaker 3: You know? My mom was like reality TV. I'm so embarrassed, like, yeah, now,
Speaker 3: I always like and documentaries, which I don't know why
Speaker 3: I say that because I'm trying to sound smarter than
Speaker 3: I am. And she says, oh, I listened to watch
Speaker 3: what Crappens. I said, oh, I know them. She's like,
Speaker 3: like you know them or like you listen to them?
Speaker 3: I go, no, I know them. So she's like what.
Speaker 3: So then I got the person on the phone. I
Speaker 3: think I was cool. I texted on your internet No
Speaker 3: no deal given, But I did text Ben and Ronnie
Speaker 3: and said I felt famous because I knew you guys
Speaker 3: on the call with the internet provider and they said
Speaker 3: anytime we could help you out, And then I told
Speaker 3: him I was because today when we're recording is Wednesday
Speaker 3: and their episode has not come out yet about Real
Speaker 3: House Wests of Beverly Hills, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: going to need you to guys, go ahead and put
Speaker 3: that episode out because I gotta have something to listen
Speaker 3: to while I was out doing my errands. But one
Speaker 3: out went out yet. I was upset. But they're doing
Speaker 3: all the top chefs and all the blow decks and
Speaker 3: all that, so a lot.
Speaker 5: Of time for that. I've just had to prioritize.
Speaker 3: And tell me what you're prioritizing your problem watching. Let's
Speaker 3: hear it.
Speaker 4: The Valley is number one, of course, like number one,
Speaker 4: two and three, I'm just go into it. I really
Speaker 4: like Summer House. I'm enjoying Atlanta, and I cannot wait
Speaker 4: for Miami to come back.
Speaker 3: When's it coming?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: They did their first sort of promo, like hinting that
Speaker 4: it's coming soon.
Speaker 5: Yesterday a bunch of people posted about it, and I
Speaker 5: didn't see that.
Speaker 4: I didn't dig enough to like yeah, and I don't
Speaker 4: think they announced like a date.
Speaker 3: But you know, if you just DM Marisol, she'll tell you.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I really should do that because.
Speaker 3: She ass every dam.
Speaker 5: I am kind of sad that, oh my god, what's her? Uh? Nicole?
Speaker 5: Doctor Nichole is not? Yeah, they love really hoping that
Speaker 5: she's able to like go back to it.
Speaker 4: I know we got more from her than she got
Speaker 4: from I got, like she didn't need this show, and
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure it's a little bit of like
Speaker 4: a nuisance to have cameras everywhere, and she was dealing
Speaker 4: with postpartum anxiety. But her daughter is one now, and
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that like by the time this, you know,
Speaker 4: season premieres and they like start figuring out next season,
Speaker 4: that maybe she'll be in a position to come back
Speaker 4: because I love her.
Speaker 3: I love her too. She is one of my top
Speaker 3: I mean, Marisol is always my favorite, just because she's
Speaker 3: so wacky.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I love all of them truly, and
Speaker 4: so the idea that any one of them would be
Speaker 4: gone would upset me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well that's I'll have to like dig into
Speaker 3: that seriously. I think I will DM Marsol because she
Speaker 3: tell me she asked that she answers everything just truthfully,
Speaker 3: shouldn't he.
Speaker 4: I feel like I never DM with I DM sometimes
Speaker 4: with like Emily Simpson, like if I she responds to things.
Speaker 5: She's really nice Carl brad Key.
Speaker 4: On Summer House, But like not, I don't know, it's
Speaker 4: not like a constant conversation. It's just something they usually
Speaker 4: that's like about them, or I tagged them.
Speaker 5: They react and their kind. But I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I have a lot of insights
Speaker 4: with the ladies and Bravo.
Speaker 3: Oh I don't either, But I did DM Marisol one
Speaker 3: time as she brought me back, like so now in
Speaker 3: my mind.
Speaker 5: You know who else replies to everything? I think? Is
Speaker 5: Lisa Barlow That trucks. Yeah, like she really does.
Speaker 4: Because I posted something and I don't think I tagged
Speaker 4: her just like and it was positive about her, and
Speaker 4: she was like thanks or whatever.
Speaker 3: She's got an Instagram hashtag alert on herself, you know,
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 5: He's so funny.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Beverly Hills, let's discuss. So Part three of
Speaker 3: the reunion was last night, and we saw that gar
Speaker 3: I didn't quite understand what Garcel was upset about to
Speaker 3: make her quit. I applauded. I appreciate it. I hope
Speaker 3: she comes back one day. I'm not mad about it.
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, the fact that none of
Speaker 3: them just quit every season is beyond me. But I
Speaker 3: didn't how I understand what the pinpoint was she was
Speaker 3: so mad about.
Speaker 5: I've been thinking about this.
Speaker 4: I think that she felt that she's never been accepted
Speaker 4: by the group, and that they always treat her as
Speaker 4: if she's like coming for them rather than just another
Speaker 4: person on the show sharing their thoughts and feelings. And
Speaker 4: I think she felt that specifically the stuff about Durite's
Speaker 4: break in that other people likely felt the same way
Speaker 4: or could understand where she was coming from, and the
Speaker 4: fact that like she got kind of eviscerated for that
Speaker 4: and no one stepped in, that's nobody, and she felt
Speaker 4: kind of alone. And you know how if you, for example,
Speaker 4: are in a meeting and someone says something that like
Speaker 4: you feel is like targeting you, and you spend the
Speaker 4: rest of the meeting like fuming, you can't even listen
Speaker 4: to Okay, That's how I felt like she was at
Speaker 4: the reunion. She was fuming. She couldn't even participate or
Speaker 4: engage the last half of the reunion, like even when
Speaker 4: Andy was like, what are you upset about? Like, she
Speaker 4: just didn't even She said, I don't feel like you
Speaker 4: guys give me grace, which is true, but giving she
Speaker 4: could have given examples. She was so done at that
Speaker 4: point that she didn't even want to explain herself.
Speaker 5: But the fact that no.
Speaker 4: One ran after her, like none of them actually ran
Speaker 4: after her. She's not someone who walks off of things,
Speaker 4: so you know, she's not like a Kyle or a
Speaker 4: dread or someone who's like you know more or Sutton
Speaker 4: who walks off of everything, and she always follows Sutton
Speaker 4: or somebody always does, and no one did that for
Speaker 4: her was kind of like proving the point. And just
Speaker 4: the fact that by the time Sutton got there, she
Speaker 4: left it just again, like the fact that Sudden couldn't
Speaker 4: under Sudden was clearly on some like.
Speaker 5: Bensadazeth been.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she had taken she had taken her half as Annie.
Speaker 5: Before and oh it was more than half.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's how I am if I have
Speaker 3: half as Annie.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm like a crazy person.
Speaker 5: So like it doesn't do a whole lot.
Speaker 4: For me because I'm so that makes it kind of normal.
Speaker 4: But she was so clearly non reactive, and I think
Speaker 4: it also made it so she didn't like run after Garcel.
Speaker 4: But she's also so self focused that.
Speaker 5: She's always thinking about herself and how, oh my god,
Speaker 5: Kyle's gonna hate me, And she's never thinking about like,
Speaker 5: how does Garcel feel in this moment.
Speaker 4: She's not that kind of person, She's not that kind
Speaker 4: of friend. Well that sucks, Yeah, I mean I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be friends with that. And she seems like just obsessed
Speaker 4: with herself and so focused on like being a victim
Speaker 4: in every situation.
Speaker 3: Well, she's a great.
Speaker 4: Television I love oh, I love her on television. I
Speaker 4: just like in her personally. Could not imagine being with
Speaker 4: someone that like reacts the way she does to things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm looking at the list here. I don't know
Speaker 3: who of any of them I would really want to
Speaker 3: be friends with? Are some?
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 3: And now? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, none of them? None of them. Bose I'd be
Speaker 5: friends with Bose.
Speaker 3: No, she bugs me and Eric. It would probably be
Speaker 3: pretty fun and Jennifer Tilly would be pretty fun.
Speaker 4: Actually, Jennifer Tilly I would want to actually be friends with.
Speaker 4: I think she is a who. I think she's fun
Speaker 4: to hang out with. I think she has a deeper
Speaker 4: level to her like most people who are funny do.
Speaker 4: I think she's amazing. But yeah, sudden, I mean, I
Speaker 4: love Sutton on the show. But for example, if I like,
Speaker 4: can't have friends that like walk out and then don't
Speaker 4: leave like what she I'm just like, if you're gonna go, go,
Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna sit here and try and convince
Speaker 4: you to stay when you've already stated your intention is
Speaker 4: not to stay.
Speaker 3: Right, okay, And I just don't have friends that walk
Speaker 3: out of anything.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not leaving it, but like you know how
Speaker 4: you've had those friends, especially in your twenties, you know
Speaker 4: who like are very dramatic and then they say like,
Speaker 4: oh I look fat in this, and then your whole
Speaker 4: job is to be.
Speaker 5: Like, no, you look so skinny, and.
Speaker 4: That they do it over and over and over again
Speaker 4: in situations it's exhausting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, they need too much validation, that's it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he needs too much validation for me. But I love
Speaker 5: her on my television. I did not want her to
Speaker 5: go anywhere.
Speaker 3: I think your point is good. Like, if you're gonna leave,
Speaker 3: just slave, don't say you're gonna leave in this sit
Speaker 3: in the foyer.
Speaker 5: It's one of the few pet peeves of mine.
Speaker 4: If you say something and then you don't do it,
Speaker 4: it drives me insane.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I hope I haven't ever done that to you.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I don't think you.
Speaker 4: No, Like almost no one in my life does that.
Speaker 4: But I remember time where people would do that, like
Speaker 4: or I'm going to hang up on you, or I'm going.
Speaker 6: To do that.
Speaker 3: Okay, do it, do it, do it, And it's usually.
Speaker 4: Not even just watching other people do it is so frustrating.
Speaker 3: It's like when you have little kids and you have
Speaker 3: to be prepared for whatever you threaten them with. You
Speaker 3: got to to do it, Like like if you do
Speaker 3: that again, we're leaving, and then you have to be
Speaker 3: prepared to leave. Even if you're not even finished with
Speaker 3: your lunch or you were having a nice time with
Speaker 3: your friends, you still have to Like I said, we
Speaker 3: were leaving, you got to be ready to pick up
Speaker 3: and leave. Like if you did that one more time,
Speaker 3: we're leaving target, and then you got to abandon your
Speaker 3: whole cart leave in the middle.
Speaker 5: Of the aisle. You don't get any of the things
Speaker 5: you needed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be prepared to If you say it,
Speaker 3: you better be prepared to do it.
Speaker 5: That's kind of all I feel, just in general. Otherwise,
Speaker 5: don't say it your words.
Speaker 3: The toddler in the situation, she does.
Speaker 4: Feel a bit toddler like, and so does Kyle. Like
Speaker 4: whenever you like she doesn't want to do something, she
Speaker 4: just cries. She doesn't want to talk about something, and
Speaker 4: she just starts crying, and then you feel bad because
Speaker 4: she's crying and you want to like ease up on her.
Speaker 4: And I think it's calculated.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about Kyle, so a bringing apart one
Speaker 3: Andy did. They did touch on the Morgan of it all,
Speaker 3: and Andy saying like, but with I'll do like she
Speaker 3: was on this show and now she is a household
Speaker 3: name and seems like you want to have your cake
Speaker 3: and eat it too, And I like how he called
Speaker 3: her out on it. And then in this episode, basically
Speaker 3: she said she's dating a woman, she's dating Morgan, but
Speaker 3: she never said it. They danced around it so hard
Speaker 3: again that at one point Kathy was like, when I
Speaker 3: talk to my children, they said, no big deal and
Speaker 3: they don't care. And Andy goes, oh, you told your
Speaker 3: children you're a lesbian too.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: I loved how he said it that way, just to
Speaker 4: see what was like. Kyle laughed, I mean Kyle laughed.
Speaker 4: But she also was like, let me speak for myself.
Speaker 4: And I think she's so careful with her words. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's very frustrating because she says, well, not all of
Speaker 4: me is like up for grabs, which I get, but
Speaker 4: then it goes against how she's behaved on the show,
Speaker 4: when she's made people share things about themselves that they
Speaker 4: haven't been comfortable sharing, gone after other people saying just
Speaker 4: be honest, just be honest, and then she doesn't do
Speaker 4: it for herself. It's extremely hypocritical, and then she like
Speaker 4: half shares. It would just be better if she just
Speaker 4: never shared Morgan at all. Right, Yeah, I would understand
Speaker 4: that if she's just like, I'm not quite sure what
Speaker 4: this is, and so I'm not gonna be public with
Speaker 4: it until I know exactly what it is, and maybe
Speaker 4: until like my divorce is more on the way or
Speaker 4: you know, what I mean, I get that, but she's
Speaker 4: constantly you know, getting pictures with Morgan by paparazzi, Like
Speaker 4: those are, at least to my knowledge, set up, because
Speaker 4: I used to think that like paparazzi hung out everywhere
Speaker 4: in La But Ryan Bailey told me that you have.
Speaker 5: To call them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually you call them.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that, and so then I'm like, well, why,
Speaker 4: especially if they're getting you know, pictures in Aspen and
Speaker 4: like places that don't necessarily have like paparazzi around, Why
Speaker 4: is she doing that?
Speaker 5: Who is doing that?
Speaker 3: I think and this is my thing that I think
Speaker 3: that happened with Mauricio in the airport in Mikonos. I
Speaker 3: think that it was somebody like you or me at
Speaker 3: that airport that saw it. It was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: that's Mauricio and took a little video and then sells
Speaker 3: it to TMZ or background or whoever. I think that's
Speaker 3: what happened in that case, because no, there were no
Speaker 3: paparazzi at the Mikono's airport. Like Sutton's point was, I've
Speaker 3: seen Jennifer Andison at that airport, you know. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: by the way, if you or me were at an airport,
Speaker 3: saw Jennifer Andison. We would take a little picture, you know,
Speaker 3: but there's nothing to do. She's not making out. She's
Speaker 3: not making out in the airport.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just like text it to friends exactly.
Speaker 3: So I think in some of these cases, that's what happens.
Speaker 3: Somebody's in their gas and they see her pump in
Speaker 3: her gas and they take a picture and they sell it.
Speaker 4: Like how come that doesn't happen for Jennifer Aniston? Right,
Speaker 4: She's not like only inside, she's outside.
Speaker 5: She's on the streets. She's hanging out, And why is
Speaker 5: it not constantly pictures of her with people? You know?
Speaker 4: Like I just don't think Kyle and Morgan are as
Speaker 4: interesting as I don't Taylor Swift like all these other
Speaker 4: people who I mean, Okay, Taylor shows a bad example
Speaker 4: because she like calculates absolutely her in every movie.
Speaker 3: But there's so many famous people that like, why is
Speaker 3: it Morgan and Kyle and something seems off with it,
Speaker 3: and so she is trying to have her cake and
Speaker 3: eat it too, and so is Morgan.
Speaker 4: I think Morgan didn't fully understand like how crazy US
Speaker 4: fans are and like how much we will dig into
Speaker 4: your personal life, not me, but like other people. And
Speaker 4: she kind of was like, oh, I made a mistake
Speaker 4: by filming, but it's kind of hard to put the
Speaker 4: genie back in the bottle. And people probably have found
Speaker 4: her that wouldn't listen to her music otherwise because she
Speaker 4: is on this platform.
Speaker 5: So I think they just should have thought a.
Speaker 4: Lot harder before they were more public with their friendship
Speaker 4: slash relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you that Brandy and Julie were
Speaker 3: on a few weeks ago and Brandy said that her sister,
Speaker 3: her cousin or somebody was in Palm Desert and went
Speaker 3: to like a Morgan Wage show like that in Palm Desert,
Speaker 3: Palm Springs, whatever, and that she looked so pissed the
Speaker 3: whole time she was there. I was like while she
Speaker 3: was performing, and she said, yeah, and I think it's
Speaker 3: because it seemed like all the fans there were like
Speaker 3: middle aged ladies that were like, look over.
Speaker 5: God, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And that maybe she doesn't want that as our audience.
Speaker 3: But guess what, it doesn't matter how you get the listens,
Speaker 3: as long as you get the listens.
Speaker 5: Well, that's also.
Speaker 4: She may not want to be like the kind of
Speaker 4: artists that I don't know, I don't really understand, have
Speaker 4: gone on the Real Housewives I know, and you know,
Speaker 4: be with someone who's so public. It's so much older
Speaker 4: that I've been talking about it since the beginning.
Speaker 5: Nobody's mentioned that allegedly Morgan's mother is like multiple years
Speaker 5: younger than Kyle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because I think Morgan is only twenty nine.
Speaker 5: She's thirty.
Speaker 3: Okay, so she's thirty. So Kyle is my age fifty six, fifty.
Speaker 5: Four, yeah, I think fifty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that would be that would be weird if
Speaker 3: I was dating a guy that was thirty. But something happens,
Speaker 3: as it happens all the time with older men and
Speaker 3: younger women, and I do think.
Speaker 5: Also it's weird for that too.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, six year old man is dating a
Speaker 3: twenty nine thirty year old. Also, I think that's weird,
Speaker 3: Like what are you.
Speaker 4: Also for Kyle, Like if she didn't have daughters, or
Speaker 4: she didn't have daughters around that age, I wouldn't think
Speaker 4: it's as weird. And if Morgan had like a much
Speaker 4: older mother, I also wouldn't think it's as weird.
Speaker 5: It's the fact that you have, like, you know, people
Speaker 5: like you have a daughter for Kyle who is older
Speaker 5: than more Like, that's odd.
Speaker 3: It is, but again, men do it all the time, and.
Speaker 5: It's and I think it's super fucking odd.
Speaker 3: I think it's odd for that. I do too. I
Speaker 3: just think, what could you talk about? Like, what could
Speaker 3: you talk about?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: Also, just like what does that make your like children
Speaker 4: feel that You're not that she's with a woman, It's
Speaker 4: that she's with a young woman who is the same
Speaker 4: age as her daughters.
Speaker 5: It's That's how I feel, like, what's strange.
Speaker 3: They did talk about the sliding into the DMS and
Speaker 3: they ask Kyle and she goes, yeah, sometimes I get it.
Speaker 3: She's like men and women. And when she does stuff
Speaker 3: like that, yeah, she invites trying to poem the speculation.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I gotta say just she danced around
Speaker 3: it so much for I felt like ten minutes. And
Speaker 3: when Kathy started talking, and she was like, Kathy, let
Speaker 3: me talk. She's, first of all, she's afraid of what
Speaker 3: Kathy will say. Yea, because Kathy's just so unfiltered up. Well,
Speaker 3: oh I don't mean to say that. Well, well you
Speaker 3: know and all that. And so basically she told us, yes,
Speaker 3: I am dating this woman, and that is weird for me.
Speaker 3: I didn't expect this later in my life. I only
Speaker 3: retracted to men. I thought I'd be married forever. She
Speaker 3: basically is admitting to it with dancing around it, and
Speaker 3: I'm just like over it. I'm like, it's too far
Speaker 3: down the pike. Now you need to just say.
Speaker 4: I think she's planning to go public at some point.
Speaker 4: I think she's okay. So like last season she thought
Speaker 4: was just like entering the Mauricio separation thing, and then
Speaker 4: she thought this season was going to be about her
Speaker 4: separation with Mauricio, and then next season will be her
Speaker 4: like starting to date again. Remember, She's like, I think
Speaker 4: I'm going to date again soon, you know. Like I
Speaker 4: think she's trying to plan her storyline for every season,
Speaker 4: and she gets frustrated when other people's real lives get
Speaker 4: in the way of her storyline, such as Durt and
Speaker 4: PK separating. She's like, wait, now this is going to
Speaker 4: be about you separating. This was supposed to be about
Speaker 4: me separating.
Speaker 5: And it's like, well that was last season, Kyle, Like
Speaker 5: you have to give us your honest life and what's
Speaker 5: actually happening, or it doesn't feel real, and then if
Speaker 5: it doesn't feel real, then you're kind of as soon
Speaker 5: as someone holds back, then everyone holds back, right, and
Speaker 5: it sucks.
Speaker 3: I thought I liked that. Garcela called Kyle out and said,
Speaker 3: you asked to meet with us before filming, you know
Speaker 3: about what we're not speaking of. And Kyle's like, right,
Speaker 3: I met, like I met with you off camera before
Speaker 3: we were filming, and then you bring get up.
Speaker 4: But it's like if you okay, Well, I don't think
Speaker 4: that you can have things that are off limits. I
Speaker 4: just don't unless it's underage children, right, But like that
Speaker 4: I totally get.
Speaker 5: But yeah, other than that, no.
Speaker 3: Well we'll see where this takes us. Now. Did you
Speaker 3: watch the best show that was around television, The Valiances?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: I have not, and I've heard about it so good.
Speaker 5: I don't really like it.
Speaker 3: Most people really hated it, but oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it. I love every minute.
Speaker 4: Of Gigglely Squad. They were talking about it. I think
Speaker 4: it was Hannah that was watching it and sharing.
Speaker 3: Okay, well you should have only been listening to me
Speaker 3: because I covered the whole season.
Speaker 5: Well, she just mentioned it once for two minutes.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I covered it frame by frame on this
Speaker 3: on this program.
Speaker 4: I have trouble watching more than what I discuss on
Speaker 4: the podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so did you watch Denise Richards.
Speaker 5: And I did not. People really liked it.
Speaker 3: I know, that was really good. That's easy, breezy and
Speaker 3: light you could put on and.
Speaker 4: Something I this is, this is embarrassing for me. But
Speaker 4: I have like such an issue with her husband. Oh,
Speaker 4: I don't know that I can support any of them.
Speaker 3: Oh, but he's like he's a scammer.
Speaker 4: He scams people with cancer, Yes, he does. He's kind
Speaker 4: of like a tom in a way. Like it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, he's like a gen chaft for me, Like
Speaker 4: you're doing something illegal and very very harmful to a
Speaker 4: very vulnerable group.
Speaker 5: Of people, and it just it's just so yucky.
Speaker 3: Like it don't know if he's still actively scamming though,
Speaker 3: or if he like closed his practice, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, he still ows people money, and I think, I
Speaker 4: mean there's probably people who have died as a result
Speaker 4: of what he has. I mean allegedly, like you know said, oh,
Speaker 4: I can fix your cancer with these like lasers and
Speaker 4: this homeopathic stuff.
Speaker 5: And like they're like, Wow, I guess I'll fork go
Speaker 5: chemo or.
Speaker 4: Whatever like medical treatment my actual doctor is recommending. It's
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm all about homeopathic like in addition
Speaker 4: to the West. Yeah, but he clearly doesn't even have that.
Speaker 4: He has these like fake laser things and they're very expensive.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5: I'm such a downer. I just can't stand that man.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, then I won't ask you about why Lotus.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I saw the first episode and I followed
Speaker 4: all the memes. I just didn't have time.
Speaker 3: That that doesn't count. And I want to ask you
Speaker 3: about Yellowjacket because I know you didn't want to.
Speaker 5: Now, I like, don't watch as much TV. I just
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't want the time. Oh I did,
Speaker 5: I wish? I did you know what I watched?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 5: I watched Hacks.
Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't started that yet. I mean I've watched
Speaker 3: the other seasons that haven't started the new scenes.
Speaker 4: Okay, So things that are thirty minutes or less are
Speaker 4: usually easier to get me to watch, and that are
Speaker 4: funnier and not as dramatic.
Speaker 5: Chef's kiss.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then you might like you might like Denise's
Speaker 3: show the US.
Speaker 5: She's not feature.
Speaker 3: I'll probably watch He's there a little bit, but not
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can fast forward those scenes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a big dick. She talks about his
Speaker 3: big dick a lot.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Atlanta, So last week we had the Kenya situation
Speaker 3: where she went to Kinkos and had them pronouncing porn
Speaker 3: on some poster board.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine the people working at Kinkos, like I
Speaker 4: would actually be like, I'm sorry, I can't.
Speaker 3: Do It's pretty shocking that she had that professionally done.
Speaker 4: Okay, do you know what I actually think it was?
Speaker 4: I wonder how if she just like actually printed off
Speaker 4: a regular printer and like taped the pictures to a
Speaker 4: poster board.
Speaker 6: But I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean eight by eight.
Speaker 4: I mean no, because the first page had, like the
Speaker 4: first poster had like lots of different photos because it
Speaker 4: was trying to prove all the work that she had
Speaker 4: had done and that she like looked very different. Now no,
Speaker 4: I know, but like I'm wondering if those were all don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Whatever it is, it's she put she was intentional and
Speaker 4: it was premeditated.
Speaker 3: Well, I still like the idea that she went to
Speaker 3: Kinko's and said, I know, in this picture like a
Speaker 3: from like a nineteen ninety two MacBook, can you print
Speaker 3: this like old picture? Now? What I heard that I
Speaker 3: have not substantiated anyways, I'll ask you was that. You know,
Speaker 3: Britt explained that she did have like a sex tape
Speaker 3: video with a boyfriend, which she was a teenager, and
Speaker 3: then she did webcam stuff when she was older. It's
Speaker 3: not explained exactly where this image came from, and if
Speaker 3: it came from her as a teenager, what kind of
Speaker 3: a teenager was she? Was she she a sixteen year
Speaker 3: old teenager or a nineteen year old teenager?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Porsche made these comments that made me
Speaker 4: think that she was underage eighteen. Yeah, which is like
Speaker 4: even more serious than an already very serious situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this proves.
Speaker 4: To me that Kenya doesn't have friends. And I like Kenye,
Speaker 4: I've liked her.
Speaker 3: Nobody nobody said that.
Speaker 5: Like, no one stepped in the fact. It means that
Speaker 5: she doesn't have enough people.
Speaker 4: The only means the only people around her are people
Speaker 4: that she pays, because that's how you get into those
Speaker 4: situations you don't have like actual friends or actual people
Speaker 4: around you, Like for example, I feel like half like
Speaker 4: Lala Kent, everyone around her and her life is paid.
Speaker 4: She has like so few people in her life that
Speaker 4: are not in financial relationships, even her family.
Speaker 5: And I said, what about it?
Speaker 3: What about mama? What about her mama?
Speaker 5: Oh, her mom's on her payroll.
Speaker 3: Well, her mom so loves her. Not come up, Mandy, No,
Speaker 3: no loves her.
Speaker 2: No no, no.
Speaker 4: I mean I'm saying, like her mom would give her
Speaker 4: real honest advice. But it's just I'm saying, it's just
Speaker 4: dangerous when you totally when everyone in your like circle
Speaker 4: is on your payroll.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've never seen we've seen Ki. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have like an aunt you know that raised her
Speaker 3: and stuff. It's just like you should run something like this,
Speaker 3: like look at this slam I'm gonna do at the
Speaker 3: opening of muss On. Look how amazing it's going to
Speaker 3: be just to have one person go. Maybe a dinner
Speaker 3: would be a better time to pull this stunt, you know,
Speaker 3: just like something and then try to talk her out
Speaker 3: of it, because it's not the right time to do that,
Speaker 3: no matter what, But not when you're trying to open
Speaker 3: a salon. It's so wild to me that she did
Speaker 3: this terrible, terrible thing that would have been terrible no
Speaker 3: matter what at her own event. That's what makes no sense.
Speaker 5: That makes no sense.
Speaker 4: But also just doing it to begin with makes no sense,
Speaker 4: Like this is so much more of like a dangerous
Speaker 4: situation for you and your employment than it is for
Speaker 4: anything else. And it makes me feel bad for her
Speaker 4: in a way because I'm like, wow, you have no
Speaker 4: one in your life that like you run things by
Speaker 4: like that's a bad idea.
Speaker 3: This is a bad idea for here's the twelve reasons
Speaker 3: it's a bad idea now, you know. Like I was like,
Speaker 3: we were just talking about crap, and I was listening
Speaker 3: to them earlier talking about this episode, and they were like, look,
Speaker 3: here's the thing. We don't like brit brit sucks. Nobody
Speaker 3: deserves to have this happen to them. And what we
Speaker 3: wanted was for her to take this moment and be like,
Speaker 3: I am the actual victim. I'm not playing victim. I
Speaker 3: am an actual victim here and make us like her
Speaker 3: more on the show. Sure, they were like, but alas,
Speaker 3: she's unlikable and she's still an asshole, but nobody, nobody
Speaker 3: deserves this. Nobody, Oh, nobody deserves it.
Speaker 5: But she was so unlikable and watch what Happens Live
Speaker 5: that I was like, oh, what did she do that
Speaker 5: made the entire cast basically fall out with her because
Speaker 5: she couldn't say one nice thing about anyone other than
Speaker 5: maybe Portia and Cynthia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like she's where's a good wig? You
Speaker 3: know what I mean? She just didn't have anything nice
Speaker 3: to say. I did like her outfit was I liked
Speaker 3: it and hated it at the same time. And watch
Speaker 3: what I was life.
Speaker 5: She had like, oh, it's like a sweatery.
Speaker 3: It was like feathers or fur or something that like
Speaker 3: poked up here. It was like like a like the
Speaker 3: head of a gazelle or something, and then on the
Speaker 3: shoes it mat like elf shoes. The shoes also came
Speaker 3: up with like a feather or a fur something else.
Speaker 3: Like I was so MESMERI I was hardly hardly listening
Speaker 3: to what she said. And you know, several people have said,
Speaker 3: you don't lose your insurance license. Look aus, somebody posted
Speaker 3: a porn picture of you from ten years ago, like
Speaker 3: they that has your personal life has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with anything.
Speaker 4: There's a difference between being under investigation and losing your license. Now,
Speaker 4: what I don't know is if you're under investigation, how
Speaker 4: long does that take and are you able to practice
Speaker 4: right during that period? Because that would have an impact
Speaker 4: on her life if she couldn't practice right.
Speaker 3: But why does the Insurance Board of America give a
Speaker 3: shit that she's on a TV show and showed a
Speaker 3: porno picture of her.
Speaker 4: They'll investigate anything like any like for example, if you
Speaker 4: are a physician and something comes up, like if you
Speaker 4: send things to people, they often start an investigation. Now
Speaker 4: how serious the investigation is or how long it takes,
Speaker 4: you know whatever, But yeah, they want to do their
Speaker 4: due diligence. I don't really understand the porno thing. I
Speaker 4: think it's more, oh, she is like a sex worker
Speaker 4: or whatever it is. Maybe she actually is like breaking
Speaker 4: the law and right, I don't know or if there
Speaker 4: is a clause in like having that sort of license
Speaker 4: that you have to have some sort of code of
Speaker 4: conduct and she's breaking the code of conduct.
Speaker 5: I think that's probably something.
Speaker 4: Like for therapists, if like a therapist does something and
Speaker 4: they're like, this is against the code of ethics or
Speaker 4: code of conduct, like they'll investigate, but I'm but I
Speaker 4: don't know whether or not you can practice during the investigation.
Speaker 4: And she made it sound like it had already been taken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she said she was like your investigation
Speaker 3: so that it was a miss.
Speaker 4: Like she because they're like, well, what ramifications have happened,
Speaker 4: Like how has this impacted you, like other than emotionally,
Speaker 4: and she was like they you know, they took my license.
Speaker 4: And then it was only when Angela was like, they
Speaker 4: don't just take your license, She's like, well, it's under investigation,
Speaker 4: and that she didn't like that someone was challenging her
Speaker 4: narrative and she just like lost it on Angela, who
Speaker 4: I think is the star. She is like a star
Speaker 4: that I did not see coming on Atlanta. Like the
Speaker 4: first couple episodes, I was like, oh, I really like
Speaker 4: her voice. It's so calman like. I want her to, like,
Speaker 4: you know, read me bad time stories. But and I
Speaker 4: thought Shemia was the breakout. Shimiya is a breakout, but
Speaker 4: Angela was the one I didn't see coming Tomia. I knew,
Speaker 4: like within the first five minutes of her being on
Speaker 4: our screen, I was like, oh, I did not know
Speaker 4: what a star this woman was.
Speaker 3: No, we had no idea, We had no idea.
Speaker 5: But Angela.
Speaker 4: Uh when she like went after brit and I forgot
Speaker 4: what she said, that was so like, ooh, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 3: But I remember it was so good.
Speaker 5: And I was just like, yes, she is someone who
Speaker 5: can read. She is someone who like maintains.
Speaker 4: Her composure, but when you poke at her, she will
Speaker 4: fight back in a great way.
Speaker 3: And it's so interesting. I've told this before, but when
Speaker 3: the episode one came out and I had it on
Speaker 3: downstairs and just watching it, and as happens, you know,
Speaker 3: people and my family walk through the family room and Dave,
Speaker 3: my husband, walks through and goes, is that Charles Oakley, Oh, my.
Speaker 4: Wa that happened with me when I was watching Miami
Speaker 4: and I was like making my step mom watch and
Speaker 4: my dad walked in and he was like Martina and
Speaker 4: never to Loovo, Like like what like my favorite tennister.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Dave was like why is he? And I go, oh,
Speaker 3: he is married to a woman that is now in
Speaker 3: Real Housewives of Atlanta and DA I mean anything anything
Speaker 3: that's on one of my shows. Dave thinks it's total trash.
Speaker 3: He's like, what, like, you cannot believe somebody is might
Speaker 3: have fallen like And I was like, I'm sure he's
Speaker 3: I said, he's They don't ever pay the husband. So
Speaker 3: I was like, he's just there just to be supportive
Speaker 3: of his wife, who is like rich and influential on
Speaker 3: her own without him, you know yeah. And Dave was
Speaker 3: like I don't get it. I was like, listen, this
Speaker 3: girl over here is tiny and is a waffle maven
Speaker 3: and has four kids. And he's like huh. I was like,
Speaker 3: just leave. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I love Kelly, like I like Kelly too.
Speaker 3: I'm very concerned about her dog.
Speaker 4: Very wait, what's with her dog? Is that the little one?
Speaker 4: The sorry today me Andy?
Speaker 3: Her dog?
Speaker 5: I'm not remembering.
Speaker 3: First of all it's his ears or dyed purple. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: and then it has like bedazzled little pieces by its eyes,
Speaker 3: by its eyes, and then it's got like bedazzled pieces
Speaker 3: all up in its tail, and then the body is
Speaker 3: like dyed pink. It is. It looks like like a
Speaker 3: Brat's doll dog. It looks like if a Bratt's doll
Speaker 3: had a dog. That's what it looks like. It looks
Speaker 3: like something you would see on the Disney Channel. It's scary. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that could be good for that dog.
Speaker 5: No, let the dog, just let the dog live.
Speaker 3: I mean, what's her name, Britt's got that dog. Is
Speaker 3: that dog's name Mimosa or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the dog's name is Mimosa.
Speaker 3: But it just has little bows and that's okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's totally fine.
Speaker 4: It also seems like they give a trasidone a lot
Speaker 4: because it always seems like it's like sleeping when it's
Speaker 4: being filmed, which I would like totally get if there
Speaker 4: were strangers coming into my house that the dog didn't
Speaker 4: know with cameras, Like, yeah, I get it, but it
Speaker 4: definitely doesn't feel like that's how the dog is all
Speaker 4: the time, unless the dog's really old.
Speaker 3: We give our dogs trasidone to travel to the beach,
Speaker 3: and I don't know about the time we get there,
Speaker 3: it's they are.
Speaker 5: It's oh yeah, it last twelve hours. I've never seen
Speaker 5: it last more than four.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, our car ride is five
Speaker 3: to six and they are definitely wide away by the
Speaker 3: time we get there and ready to bark the faery. Yes,
Speaker 3: I ready to act a fool on that fairy. Maybe
Speaker 3: we should give a second one. Well, I thought it
Speaker 3: was interesting. I think Cynthia is great this season. As
Speaker 3: a friend of I think she's firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 3: As a friend of I love it. I love her
Speaker 3: in her First of all, they put her in a
Speaker 3: chair that looks like it's the wrong size in her confessionals,
Speaker 3: and she's at you know, Lake Bailey, And when she
Speaker 3: said last week or whatever we're talking about, I guess
Speaker 3: Kenya said to Drew like she's trying to make you
Speaker 3: sound like a whore. And Cynthia's like, not horror. Now
Speaker 3: you can call somebody a hope, but horror that is different,
Speaker 3: not horror. And this week on ninety Day Fiance, we
Speaker 3: had a similar situation where somebody called somebody a whore
Speaker 3: said you are a pregnant whore, and I was like,
Speaker 3: Cynthia Bailey was right, that word.
Speaker 5: It really hits differently then.
Speaker 3: Really bad, it's really insulting. Well, I'm loving it. I'm
Speaker 3: loving Porsche. I'm loving the whole you know, fight over
Speaker 3: the hot Dog King. I love that Ralph emerged from
Speaker 3: the basement this week and that bait.
Speaker 5: Wait.
Speaker 4: I want to know what, like type of rodents or
Speaker 4: whatever does she have living in that house that they
Speaker 4: need an exterminator And.
Speaker 3: Like Domina has had to come more than once.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what is going on with that house?
Speaker 3: It's had to come more than so it's not like
Speaker 3: I don't know, Hey, the yearly exterminated bill, they come twice,
Speaker 3: they come in the spring, they come in the fall. No,
Speaker 3: something's happening where last time they were here? I paid them.
Speaker 3: Lets your turn to pay them. Something's going on. They've
Speaker 3: got a squirrel problem, They've got they've got a water
Speaker 3: bug infestation. I don't know, they've got a centipede problem.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Something's happening some maybe it's in the
Speaker 3: basement where Ralph lives.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's let's move on to the valley. So,
Speaker 3: just so everybody here knows, I am covering the valley
Speaker 3: on Pink Shade Prime ten dollar level. We just got
Speaker 3: through the Baldwins over there. Love is Blind is over there,
Speaker 3: Temptation Islands over there, all the greats and Keisha and
Speaker 3: I are covering the valley over there episode by episode recaps.
Speaker 3: And Keisha had never watched season one of the Valley.
Speaker 3: And also she never really watched Van or Pump Rules.
Speaker 3: She just sort of knows of it. So actually it's
Speaker 3: fun because I get to explain a lot of things
Speaker 3: to her.
Speaker 5: Yeah's wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, where have you been? But let's
Speaker 3: get into it. So let's talk about the valley. So
Speaker 3: we've got Kristin and Luke, Jesse and Michelle and the
Speaker 3: mal for a breakup. Janet and Jason just had a baby, Jackson.
Speaker 3: Brittany and the Malpa breakup. Then we've got Zach and
Speaker 3: his lego hair, and we've got Jasmine and we got
Speaker 3: to see Jasmine's girlfriend Melissa, So that was exciting. Did
Speaker 3: I miss anybody?
Speaker 5: I don't believe it's it. Yeah and Danny.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't say Dan and Danny. Thank you Nia
Speaker 3: and Danny, And they're okay. I think, by the way,
Speaker 3: I think Danny got a got a glimpse of his
Speaker 3: forehead last season and got himself a little bowtoks nice
Speaker 3: because he was very sharp, paid up here and very
Speaker 3: much like cro Magnon hanging down head and now that's
Speaker 3: all lifted. Good, good for him, Good for him. I
Speaker 3: think sometimes you got to see yourself and be like,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because he's a voice actor, so he doesn't.
Speaker 3: He's just in the closet and he doesn't. I say,
Speaker 3: Kristin and Luke, we can start with them. Everything seems
Speaker 3: okay with them. Uh, when we watched it this week,
Speaker 3: he she just said, Kristen, is she somebody that just
Speaker 3: always is slightly hungover? So she said that's a good call.
Speaker 4: A little bit different than I remember it, and maybe
Speaker 4: it was like this last season too, But it almost
Speaker 4: looks like her face is like half like almost half
Speaker 4: reacting like it's it. It's probably due to like botox
Speaker 4: or filler or whatever, but she the faces she makes.
Speaker 5: Are very odd.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have a couple here. I'll show you on
Speaker 3: my phone. I'll just hold the phone up to the
Speaker 3: screen because that makes for great. Here's one.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's it. That's exactly it.
Speaker 4: It's like something is off and it could be being hungover,
Speaker 4: but it also feels like her face not allowing itself
Speaker 4: to have the full that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like her that looks like part of her face
Speaker 5: is paralyzed. Yes, these that's more like a bell's palsy.
Speaker 3: Or something happened. Something happened with her botox. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it's not it didn't activate on one side or activated
Speaker 3: too much on another side, or you got to go
Speaker 3: to a good injector.
Speaker 5: Kristen, I remember that Stas used to say that she
Speaker 5: would not get botox before filming because one season she
Speaker 5: did and you like couldn't tell her emotions on screen,
Speaker 5: and so she's like, no, Actually, when I am on screen.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to be doing all of these things.
Speaker 3: That's a great point. That's a great point. Well, they're
Speaker 3: still together, Luke is around, and you know, we know
Speaker 3: their storyline is going to be they get engaged. They
Speaker 3: are currently pregnant with the baby, which is great. We've
Speaker 3: got Jesse Michelle who are in the midst of their
Speaker 3: breakup and yikes, they hate each other.
Speaker 4: And it also just shows that before you have a
Speaker 4: child with someone, you should have like many, many, many
Speaker 4: conversations on parent style because I feel like people just
Speaker 4: like they are on the same page about wanting a kid,
Speaker 4: but they're never on the same page about how to
Speaker 4: raise the child, and then you end up having these
Speaker 4: like just the fact that she didn't want their four
Speaker 4: year old daughter to have any makeup and he's kind
Speaker 4: of like it's harmless, you know, Or the fact that
Speaker 4: she just you know, wants to have some boundaries and
Speaker 4: you don't just give Isabella whatever she asks for and
Speaker 4: he's kind of like, I want to spoil my kid.
Speaker 5: Like, you just need to be on the same page.
Speaker 4: It just benefits you and your child to be on
Speaker 4: the same page before you have a kid, because when
Speaker 4: you're not then you end up arguing and it's always
Speaker 4: in front of the kid.
Speaker 3: It's a recipe for disaster, where it's like going too
Speaker 3: Dad's is like fun, I can do what I want,
Speaker 3: go into moms Like she's awful, Like that's a recipe
Speaker 3: for disaster. That won't work hisself out until the kid's
Speaker 3: like thirty.
Speaker 4: Really, she also did something really awful, which like he
Speaker 4: know he did something really awful. He was making it
Speaker 4: sound like he could just like pick up and move
Speaker 4: to a difference city, a different county and like take
Speaker 4: the daughter with him and like en roll her in
Speaker 4: school in that county, and.
Speaker 5: Like that's insane.
Speaker 4: You can't do that and you shouldn't even like dangle
Speaker 4: it in front of your ex just because you're pissed
Speaker 4: at her.
Speaker 5: It's stupid.
Speaker 3: He just admits he does it just to piss her off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think he's doing it because she cheated
Speaker 4: on him, and he's just like I think she made
Speaker 4: a lot of mistakes in that relationship. I think he
Speaker 4: was a total asshole, But she never called it out,
Speaker 4: Like she never said like this is actually the red
Speaker 4: line for me, or this is unacceptable or I don't
Speaker 4: like it when you do this, she was like, I
Speaker 4: think more passive aggressive, And then when he disrespected her
Speaker 4: so much, she was like, well, might as well, like
Speaker 4: you know, have someone on the side instead of just
Speaker 4: like actually addressing and communicating and then leaving like she
Speaker 4: didn't do those things. But I blame him for all
Speaker 4: of his like terrible behavior.
Speaker 3: But it's don't we think that right before filling season
Speaker 3: one that she said I'm moving out and I'm leaving
Speaker 3: and he said, I'll change, please come back, and then
Speaker 3: he didn't change. So in my mind, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: well so then she was like, okay, so you didn't change.
Speaker 4: So and also point I think she had stepped out
Speaker 4: like in the marriage.
Speaker 3: That's not great. It's not great.
Speaker 5: I also stand it. I'm just like, he's such a dick.
Speaker 4: But at the same time that makes it like I
Speaker 4: understand also why he's so frustrated with her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, if you're so so happy with
Speaker 3: this new person, then just let it go, be a
Speaker 3: good co parent, just go along to get along.
Speaker 5: It's a bruise to his ego.
Speaker 4: He's got such an ego, such an ego, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: like she actually like fucked me over, and I'm the
Speaker 4: idiot that like allowed her to fuck me over like
Speaker 4: that kind of a thing. It was more of his
Speaker 4: ego being bruised and him fighting back against that than
Speaker 4: I think it is of him actually caring about her
Speaker 4: and being hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like nasty. The whole thing is just
Speaker 5: so nasty.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, if you leave me, I'm going to destroy
Speaker 3: your life. Yeah, you know, I'm going to destroy your life.
Speaker 4: Much easier for her to like have, I mean, and
Speaker 4: I don't want to blame her as like a victim
Speaker 4: in this, but just to like have some boundaries and
Speaker 4: then implement them and then leave, yeah, you know, just
Speaker 4: like communicate what's acceptable and inacceptable and then if he
Speaker 4: doesn't follow, just like stand on business.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I think it would have served her better
Speaker 5: about her.
Speaker 3: But we remember when he has to watch What Happens
Speaker 3: Live and I don't know if they were already filming
Speaker 3: season two at that point, but he was just basically like, no,
Speaker 3: everything is fine. I've got, you know, a new relationship,
Speaker 3: she's got a new relationship. We're co parenting. Well, So,
Speaker 3: like I wonder if that was just completely not true
Speaker 3: or we were found out.
Speaker 4: No, he found out she was cheating and then he shifted.
Speaker 4: That's what I think, like he got some sort of verification. Yeah,
Speaker 4: based on his conversation with Kristen. Yeah in this first episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was interesting. So
Speaker 3: that we have Janet and Jason, so they have their baby,
Speaker 3: cute baby Cameron, And I don't know if people are like, oh,
Speaker 3: the baby's got a helmet, it's very common.
Speaker 5: Yeah, every baby has a helmet. If you come out
Speaker 5: of the badge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of babies have helmets these days.
Speaker 3: Or you have a cone head. I mean it's you know,
Speaker 3: you wait for it to settle, but it makes it
Speaker 3: so you have a nice shape on your head. And
Speaker 3: I don't want anything. I don't want this whole Jason
Speaker 3: takes his ring off.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't even think that's a storyline. I bet someone
Speaker 4: says that at like one point and it's just like
Speaker 4: laughed off, you know, just the same way that we
Speaker 4: thought Kathy told her daughter she was also a lesbian
Speaker 4: and like that was not the case. So I feel
Speaker 4: like there's a couple fake outs, like you know, the
Speaker 4: relationships that are solid and Jason are one of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even though you know she is kind of a monster.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she's kind of a monster. And it's kind
Speaker 3: of interesting that. I mean, like Keisha was like, why
Speaker 3: is he married to her? She's such a monster.
Speaker 5: I don't know, he's got monster in him. There's something,
Speaker 5: there's something about him that he wants, he likes it.
Speaker 4: I think she's so fabulous for this show, and I
Speaker 4: know people like hate her, but I'm hoping that like
Speaker 4: after a few seasons her and Kristen are friends again
Speaker 4: and team up and like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, take down Jack's or someone like that.
Speaker 4: I just I love the unexpected friendships. We needed to
Speaker 4: see Ariana be like awful to Stasi and vice versa
Speaker 4: until we got them when they finally threw that birthday
Speaker 4: party together and it was so amazing. So I like,
Speaker 4: you know, alliances, you know, unlikely friends, that kind of
Speaker 4: a thing.
Speaker 5: And I hope we eventually get that with Janet and.
Speaker 3: Kristen, Yeah, because the two of them were definitely she's
Speaker 3: the same. Yeah, two wrong to make a right in
Speaker 3: that case.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now we've got Nia and Danny who talk about having
Speaker 3: a fourth kid, and you know, I got to say like,
Speaker 3: first of all, you don't need to have three kids
Speaker 3: in a two bedroom apartment, so you definitely don't need
Speaker 3: to have four. I hope we're going to see some
Speaker 3: sort of journey of them getting a new house, and.
Speaker 4: She is I think they in real life, in real time,
Speaker 4: moved to Santa Clarita.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, that's Amy Phillips, everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's making total sense, and she just
Speaker 4: needs to if they need that like space, and that's
Speaker 4: the only place they can get that space, and you know,
Speaker 4: then then yeah, they could just have to compromise and
Speaker 4: she gets the kid and he gets the space, and
Speaker 4: you know, I think they're both. I think they love
Speaker 4: the idea of a big family truly.
Speaker 3: Well, obviously they're planning to have a fourth baby, and
Speaker 3: she just had these twins, and but her point's also validle, like,
Speaker 3: I want to just get it over with, yeah, and
Speaker 3: then I could get my body back to myself, you know,
Speaker 3: once I had this fourth baby and breasted the baby
Speaker 3: and all that. Your body's ravaged you're having all these kids,
Speaker 3: and then she can pull herself back together. And I
Speaker 3: get that, and I get that now, Zach, Okay, let's
Speaker 3: talk about what did Zach actually say.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's on camera, but.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have heard say I don't give a shit
Speaker 3: that you're pregnant, because she's ever she was, Janet was
Speaker 3: he can't talk to me. That's different if you're different
Speaker 3: than what is alleged.
Speaker 4: Yes, so I think he was like, I don't care
Speaker 4: that you're pregnant. I'm so mad at you kind of
Speaker 4: a thing.
Speaker 5: Yes, I believe, and.
Speaker 4: I've heard this from other sources that he like actually
Speaker 4: said something really really awful about her maybe not getting
Speaker 4: to full term and being happy about that or not
Speaker 4: caring if she didn't get to full term, which is
Speaker 4: a horrible thing to say, and it's so horrible that
Speaker 4: it makes you question Kristen being best friends with this man,
Speaker 4: Like that's I think that's where she's at, where Janet's
Speaker 4: at from her point of view.
Speaker 3: Well, is Brittany's original best friend, right.
Speaker 4: But Brittany and him have had ups and downs before,
Speaker 4: because I remember I followed this guy on like Twitter
Speaker 4: back in the day, like, and I remember when it
Speaker 4: was her and Jack's getting married. Something happened and he
Speaker 4: like lost his shit and like started like shit posting
Speaker 4: like some tweets about her, So maybe it was because
Speaker 4: she had that homophobic past. Well, so like totally, you know,
Speaker 4: understand his point of view, but yeah, I think I
Speaker 4: think that actually happened because Kristen didn't even try and
Speaker 4: say no, he never said that.
Speaker 5: She was like, I didn't say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, I didn't say it, so why are
Speaker 3: you mad at me about it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I also understand, Like you can't just because
Speaker 4: you're friends with someone, you shouldn't. You shouldn't get blamed
Speaker 4: for like your friends behaviors. Yeah, totally, yeah, but part
Speaker 4: of you wonders like, if you still hang out with them,
Speaker 4: do you cosign that behavior.
Speaker 5: Or are you like, hey, that's like a red line.
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Speaker 3: Well, Zach used to apologize for whatever it was.
Speaker 5: I don't think he's sorry.
Speaker 4: Instead, he's focusing how Britney's up Janet's ass, when really
Speaker 4: Britney is probably just like a normal human being. That's like,
Speaker 4: that's a monstrous thing to say. Yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 4: actually like distance myself from you now that I know
Speaker 4: that you are capable of being that hateful right, Like
Speaker 4: it's callous, it's a horrible thing. And I think Zach
Speaker 4: is also the kind of gay man that has some
Speaker 4: sort of contempt for women, Like he acts like he
Speaker 4: loves them and he's best friends with them. But I'll
Speaker 4: never forget in the first episode of the first season
Speaker 4: where he was like I'm a platinum gay because my
Speaker 4: mom had a sea section, and I'm like.
Speaker 3: Ew ew ew that's weird.
Speaker 5: That's weird, and that's gross. Yeah, And the fact.
Speaker 4: That you think that you're like better, Like I know
Speaker 4: it's a joke, yes, but the joke is based in
Speaker 4: like the vagina being dirty, uh huh, and like the
Speaker 4: birth connect, like I just think it's disgusting, and the
Speaker 4: way that he talked about pregnancies, Like I just don't
Speaker 4: think he has respect for women.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, you know, like I don't think most SKay
Speaker 5: people are like that at all.
Speaker 4: I think most like love women right like a lot
Speaker 4: and and cherish them and lift them up right. But
Speaker 4: with him, I feel like it's I feel like he's
Speaker 4: a very sinister person. Do I enjoy watching him on
Speaker 4: camera one hundred percent? But yeah, I I I wouldn't
Speaker 4: want to like be around someone like him.
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. I will see something
Speaker 3: I did appreciate. Speaking of apologies about this episode, is
Speaker 3: you know Jesse said to Kristen like I was wrong,
Speaker 3: I apologize to you the end. You know, that was it.
Speaker 3: It was an apology and then it was done. And
Speaker 3: I think that like Kristen said, I I was Gana
Speaker 3: said she was sorry that she said that on Gibson's podcast,
Speaker 3: people that know how to behave in this world or say,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done that
Speaker 3: the end. But Jack's every time he tries to explain
Speaker 3: away what happened, it is but you know, she just
Speaker 3: nags me all the time. She's hot and cold, or
Speaker 3: you know I saw this thing that she did. Anybody
Speaker 3: would have been upset. Yeah, he never says I am sorry.
Speaker 3: He says I am sorry, takes a beat and then
Speaker 3: tries to explain away and says, every anybody would have
Speaker 3: done this, and we collocked it on the note. I
Speaker 3: colllocked it on the notes. I go, here's Jack's again
Speaker 3: talking to Tom Schwartz and Tom Schwartz every time Jacks
Speaker 3: tries to back and say, right, your feelings are valid,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't excuse what you did. And Jack's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, and I've got this kid that looks up
Speaker 3: to me, but god, you know Britain, she's so up
Speaker 3: and down like that has nothing to do with anything.
Speaker 3: And by the way, they're very, very obviously every single
Speaker 3: person on the show that I just named, every single
Speaker 3: person is dancing around what actually happened. Nobody is saying
Speaker 3: what actually happened. Nobody here believes that a coffee table
Speaker 3: hit her in the knee, and that's what they're so
Speaker 3: upset about. Something way worse happened here that they're not saying, yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean at one point and I think this might
Speaker 4: happen after filming. I mean, she he entered the home
Speaker 4: that she was in with Cruise without permission, and then
Speaker 4: Nanny had to step in between them to like keep
Speaker 4: her safe. So I believe that this is a domestic
Speaker 4: violence situation, and it is. It is scary. Now, this
Speaker 4: is like some like deep psychoanalysis of Jack's. But I think,
Speaker 4: I think deep down he knows he's abnormal and knows
Speaker 4: there's something very wrong with him, and so he's constantly
Speaker 4: trying to make it seem like other people think like him,
Speaker 4: so that he doesn't feel like he's so unusual. Right, Like,
Speaker 4: I think he knows he's a sociopath and that and
Speaker 4: so like even his podcast is called the Mind of
Speaker 4: a Man.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know Man's tour. I was like, where's the
Speaker 3: man on the tour? And where's he gonna be? Who's
Speaker 3: the guest gonna be?
Speaker 4: So he's trying to be like all men think this
Speaker 4: way all at Like right, any man would respond this
Speaker 4: way if their wife did this, Like he's trying to
Speaker 4: make himself feel better, because I think deep down he
Speaker 4: knows how unusual and alone he is and how most
Speaker 4: men actually don't think that way.
Speaker 5: But I don't know if he is conscious of that.
Speaker 3: Okay, does that make sense?
Speaker 5: Is that weird?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I know exactly what I'm saying, So listen to this.
Speaker 3: This is a deep cut that maybe you and I
Speaker 3: will be the only people in the world that will
Speaker 3: remember this. Probably, Okay, remember on vander Pump Rules, this
Speaker 3: Dussy had her podcast.
Speaker 5: Yes, and she made a big test and.
Speaker 3: She did a sociopath test with Jack's yes. He answered
Speaker 3: yes to every question.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'll never forget that that was.
Speaker 3: Other people are like, we stop watching vander pumples that
Speaker 3: well when you missed it because it was good.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh, I when it comes to vander Pump, you can
Speaker 4: bring up anything, and I actually will remember.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 3: I knew you would.
Speaker 4: I knew I may not watch like the Baldwins or
Speaker 4: this other stuff, but like I am, I feel like
Speaker 4: a scholar of vander Pump Rules.
Speaker 3: I feel the same. And so I knew that you
Speaker 3: would know that.
Speaker 5: You're a scholar of everything. You memory. You have an
Speaker 5: incredible memory.
Speaker 3: I'm not the scholar of everything that is not true,
Speaker 3: but the certain shows that I'm so entrenched in and
Speaker 3: you and I, both with vander Pump, are the same.
Speaker 3: And I remember when she did that, and she thought
Speaker 3: it was hilarious and she was like laughing. She was like,
Speaker 3: oh my God, like are you You're so stupid that
Speaker 3: you're answering all these questions honestly, and it's proving your sociopath.
Speaker 3: He's like, am I one? That's funny?
Speaker 4: And I think there is a book that came out
Speaker 4: maybe two years ago called Sociopath that was written by
Speaker 4: a sociopath and like saying that you know very early
Speaker 4: on that there's like something different in terms of like
Speaker 4: you're not trying to like do things to get praise
Speaker 4: or I don't know, it was interesting but like not
Speaker 4: Also like most sociopaths are not violent, are not dangerous,
Speaker 4: are not but he is. He is, And so I
Speaker 4: just don't want to like make that word be this
Speaker 4: like everyone who's a sociopath is like Jax Taylor. I
Speaker 4: just think he is a particular type of sociopath that
Speaker 4: like he never got any sort of early intervention or
Speaker 4: any sort of like no one ever pushed back on
Speaker 4: his behavior. You can tell, you can tell he's acted
Speaker 4: this way. He's forty five years old. He throws fits.
Speaker 4: His publicist keeps him on, you know, Alex Baskin still
Speaker 4: has him on the show, Bravo still works with him.
Speaker 5: Like he just.
Speaker 4: Doesn't have consequences for his behavior. And I feel like
Speaker 4: Britney's like well being and safety was in danger throughout
Speaker 4: this filming process, and I feel like they actually made
Speaker 4: him go. I think that's why he went to rehab.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't even a real re it was like
Speaker 4: a he started with just like mental health. And we
Speaker 4: all know now that he had a cocaine addiction.
Speaker 5: Wo had cocaine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like we've been verify and so I believe that,
Speaker 4: like they actually did step in for the first time,
Speaker 4: but I don't. Yeah, I don't know. It's really worrisome.
Speaker 4: His behavior is really worrisome. And I think he knows
Speaker 4: deep down in some way, maybe not consciously, that like
Speaker 4: he's a dangerous person.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's the Schwartz conversation and Shorts is on
Speaker 3: him for twenty years and Shorts is like, okay, but
Speaker 3: because of a video, you didn't deserve what happened. He's like, right, right,
Speaker 3: but like that was my friend and then every and
Speaker 3: Tom's like, m hmm, your feelings are valid. However, the
Speaker 3: actions did not warrant what happened. And in a reference,
Speaker 3: what happened and what happened and the thing that happened
Speaker 3: and the only thing Brittany says is that he pushed
Speaker 3: a coffee table and her knee, which turned black. There's
Speaker 3: not any way in the world that that is all
Speaker 3: that happened. The way that every single person on this
Speaker 3: show is describing it, it obviously sounds like probably the
Speaker 3: police were called, Maybe it was a neighbor, something terrible happened.
Speaker 4: If they police are called, there probably would have been
Speaker 4: a story about it, though that's true.
Speaker 3: Or maybe her mother witnessed it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: something happened.
Speaker 5: And there, Yeah, her nanny has witnessed multiple things.
Speaker 3: And so it's it's good on the one hand that
Speaker 3: Brittany herself is not having to relive it and say
Speaker 3: exactly what has happened, But the subtext is there enough.
Speaker 3: Just a casual viewer, Keisha, who has never seen Jackson
Speaker 3: Brittany before other than she watched season one of The
Speaker 3: Valley like the day before, has never seen them before,
Speaker 3: and she was like, Oh, it's so obvious that production
Speaker 3: is trying to tell us something terrible happened here and
Speaker 3: it's not a coffee table got pushed into your knee something.
Speaker 3: Because Toms Swartz is like, she's afraid of you.
Speaker 5: He said, he said, I didn't know you were capable
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 3: Capable of that, which and that's so something terrible happened.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if it was one thing or
Speaker 3: what we saw the way he was stomping around and
Speaker 3: speaking to her last season, like under his breath, calling
Speaker 3: her an alcoholic, saying she's an unfit mother and you
Speaker 3: can't even have one kid. How would you want to
Speaker 3: have to the way he was speaking to her. Now
Speaker 3: we've seen her speak to her like that for years.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But and another thing I said to Keisha that you
Speaker 3: know she didn't know, having not watched vander Pulp, I go,
Speaker 3: there's not one person in the world that has ever
Speaker 3: said one bad word about Brittany. They of all said,
Speaker 3: if Jack's and Brittany ever break up, we're taking Brittany
Speaker 3: like we don't care. Like I said, the only time
Speaker 3: you have ever heard any strife at all with Brittany
Speaker 3: is the Stossi and Bo's wedding thing. Yeah, And I
Speaker 3: told her that story about how Jackson was in a
Speaker 3: group thread with Bo and said they weren't going to
Speaker 3: the wedding and then was saying, oh, with the last
Speaker 3: minute they couldn't get a babysitter, and then at the
Speaker 3: last minute, Cruise didn't have a passport and they made
Speaker 3: up some other excuses at the last minute, which for
Speaker 3: Stossi and Bo's wedding in Italy, that was two spots
Speaker 3: somebody else could have had. So it was a very
Speaker 3: big deal because two other people that were close to
Speaker 3: them could have come to Italy.
Speaker 5: Know, if you're not coming, right, you know, if you don't.
Speaker 3: Have flight plane tickets to Italy, Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know, right, you know about the whole thing.
Speaker 3: And and Stossi has been not spoken to Brittany since then,
Speaker 3: and I'm wondering that since now her any of Jack's
Speaker 3: are really broken up and everything. I wonder if Stasi
Speaker 3: will find it in her tart like forgive Brittany understanding
Speaker 3: she's doing that because Jack's told her to.
Speaker 4: Maybe, but it's also her right if she just wants
Speaker 4: like a you know, full break, because I think she
Speaker 4: doesn't really want a whole lot to do with like
Speaker 4: the that like all of the drama, Like she's just
Speaker 4: kind of beyond the drama. And I think when she
Speaker 4: hangs out with people like Katie and Lalla, like it's
Speaker 4: not they don't talk about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's still close over it. Yeah, she's still
Speaker 3: close with Katie, and I think she still sees Ariana
Speaker 3: and Lalla. Yeah, probably not so much. Sheener. Now, is
Speaker 3: it your understanding that Sheena and Lala do make a
Speaker 3: couple of more appearances, probably than they were supposed to
Speaker 3: because Jax leaves, so they needed some like star power
Speaker 3: to go in, although they don't need this on the show.
Speaker 4: Maybe I believe that they're in the after Show, which
Speaker 4: I have not yet watched, but I think that they're
Speaker 4: I think they're on the after show, which means that
Speaker 4: they're providing commentary. I don't like that they're on the
Speaker 4: after show unless they're like a full part of the cast.
Speaker 3: If they're on the episode, I don't mind being on
Speaker 3: the after show.
Speaker 4: Right, they were on the after show talk about the episode,
Speaker 4: even though they weren't on that episode. It's my understanding
Speaker 4: of what people posted on Instagram, like a few times
Speaker 4: before I came on here and I was.
Speaker 5: Like, a sorry, thing could happen that I need to know.
Speaker 4: Because I'm always like so out of the loop, especially
Speaker 4: during the workday.
Speaker 3: I just like, never, well, I'm always looking to you
Speaker 3: for the information.
Speaker 5: So me, Well, I'm.
Speaker 4: Pretty good with like the Bravo stuff I found. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's already really carefully, but not like anything else.
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Speaker 3: of times that in any sort of epidemiological of that,
Speaker 3: in anything else that's going off with the next I
Speaker 3: will send you a text that should I be worried
Speaker 3: about bird flu?
Speaker 5: And I said, yes, yes you should.
Speaker 3: I did go get my measles booster.
Speaker 4: Oh are you born between whatever years that they're saying
Speaker 4: to do the booster for or are you just like
Speaker 4: being extra careful?
Speaker 3: Well, yes, so I was born in sixty eight, and
Speaker 3: so they're saying, if you're born after after sixty eight
Speaker 3: or whatever, I'm at the cutoff.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I don't do it?
Speaker 3: Do I did it? So I called my doctor and
Speaker 3: said should I come in? What should I do? And
Speaker 3: he says, you can do one or two things. You
Speaker 3: could come in and we'll test you to tell you
Speaker 3: how much antibodies you have left, or you could just
Speaker 3: go get the shot. Probably either way you're going to
Speaker 3: get the shot, so don't even come get tested. So
Speaker 3: we just went and got it at CBS. It was nothing.
Speaker 5: So smart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so interesting that, like I just find that
Speaker 4: whole thing interesting. How if you were because you're not
Speaker 4: at the age where like everyone had had measles right,
Speaker 4: so they had had correct right, you're like where they
Speaker 4: had just started vaccinating, and so they're like unsure and
Speaker 4: so it's so interesting they can like pinpoint there was
Speaker 4: did you hear there was a measles case in DC?
Speaker 4: I did five guys at fourteenth and nine Northwest.
Speaker 3: I didn't I heard about the one at five guys.
Speaker 3: I also heard the one at Dulles Airport, which you
Speaker 3: know I was at two weeks ago and I'm going
Speaker 3: to next week.
Speaker 5: So there was also one at the Urgent Care MedStar
Speaker 5: Urgent Care and Adams Morgan Great.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what. I've got my shot, So diaesels, no,
Speaker 3: bird flu, I don't know. The measles is not gonna
Speaker 3: get me.
Speaker 5: Amazing.
Speaker 3: What about swine flu? Do I need to worry about that?
Speaker 5: No, I'm not that worried about that. It's amy and flu.
Speaker 4: It's a problem because it like mutates so much, and
Speaker 4: they're like stopping all of the funding that tracks it
Speaker 4: and can create a vaccine for it and all amazing.
Speaker 3: I love that. I love our country. Okay, so I
Speaker 3: think we've covered all the Bravo and we've covered the measles,
Speaker 3: So what are you tell me about what you're covering
Speaker 3: over there on? Is this real life with Mandy s?
Speaker 4: Yes, so I'm definitely covering the Valley. I'm covering Summer House.
Speaker 4: I really really enjoy Summer House. It's one of my
Speaker 4: favorite shows on Bravo, and for whatever reason, like I
Speaker 4: feel like I relate.
Speaker 5: To them so much more than any other show on Bravo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the age and all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because everyone's like forty on the show. I also
Speaker 4: am following all of the Housewives franchises, so Atlanta is
Speaker 4: the only one airing right now, but cover you know,
Speaker 4: Beverly Hills, Miami, Orange County, whatever it is that that's on.
Speaker 3: I cover that we have to be getting something because
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills is over, So what are we getting.
Speaker 5: I think we're getting Miami and I cannot wait for it.
Speaker 3: But is it going to be next week?
Speaker 4: Because brok no, I think it's going to only be
Speaker 4: Atlanta for a little bit.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, and I.
Speaker 4: Think Miami is going to come back, and then I
Speaker 4: don't remember what's after that?
Speaker 3: Uh New York question mark not New Jersey. That's on
Speaker 3: an indefinite hold. Oh see, we're going to get a
Speaker 3: new announcement for a new show, a new house show.
Speaker 4: Where do you think it's coming from? If we get one?
Speaker 3: I have heard Rhode Island.
Speaker 4: I've heard that too, but I just I don't believe
Speaker 4: anything that. Unfortunately Bravo Content creators put on that, like
Speaker 4: they've just been wrong about everything, especially Jersey, and so
Speaker 4: if it's like coming from like an account that's like
Speaker 4: super into New Jersey, I just like immediately don't count
Speaker 4: it as true.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Most people have just been wrong about so many things.
Speaker 4: Did you hear that they're considering this former host of
Speaker 4: the View to be on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 5: Did you see that?
Speaker 3: Who is it? Oh?
Speaker 5: My god, I may look it's.
Speaker 3: A like I mean, are you saying it's a former
Speaker 3: host of the View and we don't know who it is?
Speaker 5: It's like, you know who it is. I just can't.
Speaker 3: Remember the name. Okay, So it's not like Michelle Collins.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, like.
Speaker 5: No, it's not someone I know.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I've heard a lot. I've heard a lot about putting
Speaker 3: what's her nuts from Summerhouse Lindsay on.
Speaker 4: Lindsay would be so great on New York, but this
Speaker 4: person for Beverly Hills. I'm like, well, now you're not
Speaker 4: going to be on the show. If you leaked that
Speaker 4: you're interviewing for the show, the dumbest thing you can do.
Speaker 4: Or maybe someone leaked it so that they can like
Speaker 4: bring on someone that really shocks us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I want Crystal back. Can I I want
Speaker 5: Crystal min cough back on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: I loves me too, She's.
Speaker 4: So great and I think that she'll bring it more.
Speaker 4: I think the problem with her is the same thing
Speaker 4: as Doctor Nicole, Like she doesn't need the show.
Speaker 5: It doesn't do a whole lot for her. It was
Speaker 5: sort of like a fun thing.
Speaker 4: But I feel like something's going to need a friend,
Speaker 4: and I know that her and soon are friendly in
Speaker 4: real life with Garza.
Speaker 3: There, and I don't got to keep Tilly on. We
Speaker 3: got to keep on.
Speaker 4: Hilly will stay as a friend up. I don't think
Speaker 4: she's like particularly interested in working as hard, like showing everything.
Speaker 4: She doesn't me too, this woman has like all the
Speaker 4: money in the world.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like Kathy Hilton is like I love being
Speaker 3: in front of I just show up to the parties
Speaker 3: and the trips and yeah, wet my ass off and
Speaker 3: go home.
Speaker 4: Which is great, and they're so perfect in those roles.
Speaker 4: But we do need somebody else. And I really hope
Speaker 4: they bring back Crystal and maybe somebody else, you know,
Speaker 4: like let's let's expand.
Speaker 3: What about Lisa Runna No never don't want it, don't
Speaker 3: need it.
Speaker 4: Well, she's just she still hasn't like learned the lesson
Speaker 4: of why she was let go. She blames like the fans,
Speaker 4: but it's because she started performing just for she just
Speaker 4: wasn't true to who she was.
Speaker 5: By the end, she wasn't and she was.
Speaker 4: Like like messaging all these Bravo accounts and like trying
Speaker 4: to have them shape and narrative, and you can't like
Speaker 4: cross over like we're the audience, you're on the show,
Speaker 4: and we can't have too much communication or like fox
Speaker 4: things up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Now, do you think this little Denise
Speaker 3: side project is an entree for her to come back
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 5: Maybe?
Speaker 4: Maybe, But I also think she wouldn't want to do it.
Speaker 4: I think she's like, well, if you want to have
Speaker 4: me on Bravo, then just give me my own show.
Speaker 4: And then they did, which is I think she's like
Speaker 4: a brilliant business woman, not good with her money, but
Speaker 4: good at like getting what she wants.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, oh my god. Well, I don't know if
Speaker 3: we have any other Bravo gossip we can discuss, but
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you agreed with me about the Jax thing.
Speaker 3: It's like something terrible happened that they're all dancing around, and.
Speaker 4: Even if it is just like the coffee table, like
Speaker 4: for maybe he flipped it it to her, maybe he
Speaker 4: like punched a wall, like all of those things are
Speaker 4: so violent and so threatening and so threatening, and it
Speaker 4: really bothered me how he was like, thank god, my
Speaker 4: son wasn't in the room. Oh you think your son
Speaker 4: couldn't hear that? You think not seeing it is the issue?
Speaker 4: Know that you literally are putting your child through trauma.
Speaker 3: I have been, and then have the child who has
Speaker 3: special needs move out of the only home he's ever known, yep,
Speaker 3: because you want to stay there like a dick. He
Speaker 3: has such a dick move And it's so crazy how
Speaker 3: one thing he said, you know, was like, oh, you
Speaker 3: can imagine like how sad I feel every night and
Speaker 3: I walk by his room and he's not in there.
Speaker 3: And Keisha was like, well, that's why he should have
Speaker 3: gotten in one bedroom apartment because then he wouldn't have
Speaker 3: to walk by his son's room. But he stayed in
Speaker 3: the home because he's an asshole. He's a narcissist who's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: my wife and kids should leave even though I'm at fault,
Speaker 3: Like he just don't. I don't think any of this
Speaker 3: apology butt, apology, butt, I don't even think he means
Speaker 3: that apology part. He's just wait, he's just saying it
Speaker 3: to get to the butt.
Speaker 4: But she said this, do you think like someone like
Speaker 4: Jax is even capable of doing the twelve steps?
Speaker 3: Uh, probably not, That's what I probably not.
Speaker 5: And it's really like, then, how can you.
Speaker 4: Maintain like real sobriety, you know, like maybe he'll abstain
Speaker 4: from drugs and alcohol, but he's not like.
Speaker 5: Sober.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, no one, not one person on these
Speaker 3: shows has ever said, you know, Jackson is a really
Speaker 3: good friend, you know, even Tom Sandival. They've said about
Speaker 3: Tom Sandibal, even he's a really good friend. Like you
Speaker 3: could take the worst person on these shows, somebody has
Speaker 3: said he's a good friend. She's a good friend. No
Speaker 3: one's ever said that about Jax. He's not thinking of
Speaker 3: other people.
Speaker 4: Ever, And I think the only person he's ever thought
Speaker 4: of is his son. But he still can't do what
Speaker 4: needs to be done for a parent to protect their
Speaker 4: child and put their child's best interest first. He still
Speaker 4: can't do that. He's not capable of that.
Speaker 3: I don't think he is. And I think, well, I
Speaker 3: know that we're going to see you know, they're like
Speaker 3: coming up this season on so I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's next week or three weeks or four weeks from now,
Speaker 3: but this seems like the guys just looks like Jesse
Speaker 3: and Jason are in his kitchen saying like you really
Speaker 3: need help, like we don't want you to be a headline.
Speaker 3: And then we see him like leaving with this little
Speaker 3: bag to go to wherever he goes. So I don't
Speaker 3: I think maybe you're right. I think it was show pushed,
Speaker 3: like oh, obviously there everyone is talking about something terrible
Speaker 3: that has happened to here that we're not going to
Speaker 3: say what it is, but we it's a liability for us.
Speaker 3: So you need to go get help at least just
Speaker 3: show safe face.
Speaker 4: So I listen to the interview that Jack said with
Speaker 4: Alex Baskin and Britney's chat with Christian on her podcast
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me where I can find the Britney one
Speaker 3: where she.
Speaker 5: Britney's what's hers called reality chacter?
Speaker 3: Is it Brittany's or on Christians.
Speaker 5: Brittany Brittany's Okay, Well.
Speaker 3: She point counterpoints everything Jack.
Speaker 4: Says, right, yes, and it made me believe that the
Speaker 4: whole situation is like violent and threatening, yeah, and abusive
Speaker 4: in many ways, like in probably all the ways.
Speaker 3: And and by the way, nobody believes that when he
Speaker 3: went over there for some reason, she tried to get back.
Speaker 3: She tried to hook up with him. No, it's like
Speaker 3: I told Keishaka, what you don't understand about Jack says
Speaker 3: he's never told the truth about anything, and whether it
Speaker 3: is he went to the grocery store and the gas station,
Speaker 3: but instead he was to the gas station in the
Speaker 3: grocery store. He'll lie about that everything, everything, little, big, everything.
Speaker 5: It's really scary. It's just a scary thing. Yes, he's scary.
Speaker 4: And it's so glad that Brittany is taking all the
Speaker 4: steps that she needs to take to keep her and
Speaker 4: her son safe. And I think she's an incredible mother.
Speaker 4: The way that she spoke about her son's autism diagnosis
Speaker 4: and him being mainly nonverbal was beautiful and I think
Speaker 4: she's the perfect mother for him. She said she felt
Speaker 4: like she was like put on to be his mom,
Speaker 4: and I am so glad she is his mom. And
Speaker 4: the fact that the whole cast is able to keep
Speaker 4: this quiet is also It reminds me of Salt Lake City,
Speaker 4: where you don't really know what's coming.
Speaker 5: The only thing we knew was.
Speaker 4: Because Jack's started talking about his cocaine addiction before the
Speaker 4: season started.
Speaker 3: Well, it was just to promote the season.
Speaker 4: It's to promote the season, but it's also for him
Speaker 4: to get ahead of all of the stuff like this
Speaker 4: is why I behaved this way, is because I was
Speaker 4: an addict, as opposed to the fact that he just
Speaker 4: does this kind of shit.
Speaker 3: But also, we pointed out on our show this week
Speaker 3: that if you have a cocaine, alcohol, whatever problem for
Speaker 3: twenty plus years, your brain is different. It is altered forever,
Speaker 3: and you ain't getting it back.
Speaker 1: Ooh.
Speaker 5: Also fun fact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I have a friend who did her PhD
Speaker 4: in pharmacology and her focus was on cocaine and alcohol
Speaker 4: and when they are combined, it creates a new molecule.
Speaker 5: And so it's it's why a lot.
Speaker 4: Of people feel like they quote unquote sober up when
Speaker 4: they snort a line of coke. And it actually what
Speaker 4: people become addicted to is this like third molecule. And
Speaker 4: so that's why a lot of times when people drink,
Speaker 4: they crave cocaine. Yeah, it's it's very rare that like
Speaker 4: people who do both start with the cocaine, they start
Speaker 4: with the drinking and then and so when he when
Speaker 4: Jack said, I cut I wasn't addicted to alcohol, but
Speaker 4: I had to cut that out too. I think it's
Speaker 4: because every time he drank alcohol, craved cocaine, and that's
Speaker 4: something that Carl has talked about a little bit too.
Speaker 4: But it's just really interesting that it actually creates this
Speaker 4: like third molecule that does something else to the brain.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really interesting. I don't know much more beyond that,
Speaker 4: but that was what her.
Speaker 3: Peachd Well, somebody can study Jack's. But yeah, I think
Speaker 3: if you've done coke and been an alcoholic and a
Speaker 3: coke head for that many years, I think that you've
Speaker 3: got holes in your brain and you've got things missing,
Speaker 3: and it's not your brain chemistry is permanently altered. So
Speaker 3: it's probably dealing with that as well. And that is
Speaker 3: a true fact. That's not something I just made up.
Speaker 3: All Right, Everybody, go and listen to Mandy's podcast. It's
Speaker 3: called is This Real Life?
Speaker 5: And like that, which I wonder every single day living
Speaker 5: in Washington, DC.
Speaker 3: This is real life And we live in DC with
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Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Back when Facebook was like new, I got so many
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Speaker 3: And you're like, I'm not that kind of girl.
Speaker 5: I promise some whe where, like I was looking for
Speaker 5: a good girl, but I'll take a slutskirt to get
Speaker 5: all kinds of propositions. I was like, whoa, that's wild.
Speaker 3: Every time I talk to you, I learned something new.
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