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everyone back to the Pekana Show. Stormy is back for
part two talking about the quote unquote Robber Barons. How
are you doing, Stormy.
Speaker 2: I'm doing very well. I'm doing very well. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: So in the previous episode I mentioned that Jack Now sorry,
John Pierpont Morgan's I think a great great great grand
no great great grandfather. At that point in time was
the same as the rum Bottle pirate. It's not necessarily
the case. All he was is he was a He
was a very famous privateer during like the lead up to.
Speaker 2: He was doing.
Speaker 3: Sketchy stuff before the Revolutionary War, was a privateer and
then continued on being a privateer.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming in it was it.
Speaker 3: The when the when the US had the problem with
the Moors. So this was like still like what the
Barbara the Barbary pirates.
Speaker 4: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so he was a pirate named Morgan and
a privateer named Morgan. Whether or not that's the same
Captain Morgan, probably not.
Speaker 2: I probably don't think that it is. I don't know
the genial of the rum Bottle guy.
Speaker 1: And was that from Was that from the House of
Was that from the House of Morgan? Book? That that
implied that.
Speaker 3: Yes, House of the House of Morgan first two chapters
is about the is about his the the Morgan family
prior to John Pierpont, right, so you had his John
Pierpont's dad who I can't remember I'm blanking on, which
I think was just Pierpont, and then before him going
back like two generations three generations, so it was it
goes into very early Morgan history, long before banking and
long before Pierpont was selling American bombs to English investors,
so this would still be like, you know, British financial
primacy both pre Revolutionary War and early after. And then
so two generations it was. Yeah, it goes back to
like the mid sixteen hundreds, Morgan family not doing too much.
It's you know, the chapters are kind of quick in
comparison to the rest of the information, you know, packed
into the later chapters. It's a nine hundred page tone,
but anybody that has the time to read it, I
really think you should because it goes into after John
died and Jack took over the bank had gotten so big.
I was talking to a mutual friend, got a fantastic
account to follow. He and I geek out about science
and consciousness science all the time. We actually did a
really popular which I'm glad. I still find it. I
still find it kind of like shocking that anybody like
finds my private interests like interesting. Yeah, I know, people
like professionally, I'm kind of used to, like you know,
speaking at summits or whatever or conferences. So I know,
like my public you know, professional ideas can sometimes be interesting,
but I still find it amazing that people find like
the stuff I nerd out to privately of value. But
he and I did a really great consciousness series on
like the state of consciousness science and what the implications are.
But he and I were talking about about the peculiarities
of WASP patronage and why it's different than anything. So
a he called me because when I said in the
last show that the European aristocracy had really been dead
for two hundred years by the time the revolution rolled around,
and he very begrudgingly, you know, his colinies said, I
think you're right, it's really really, really sad. But by
the time this sixteen hundred seventeen hundreds, I guess it
was more similar to what we have today as elites,
just very unimpressive people that became kind of with few exceptions,
but very very vamporistic and not the type of behavior
that you and I were talking about on our first episode,
And in talking about that, we touched on kind of
the solo You're not going to like, I've never heard
of something like this practiced in any other society or
any other culture, but you see it throughout the American
you know aristocracy, and it died out roughly around the
same time as their power died out in the sixties
was probably like the total disenfranchisement. But by the forties
it was it was really well underway. But Jack Morgan,
the son of John Pierpont, by the time the Second
or the First World War wrapped up JP Morgan and
and really Wall Street in its entirety had official like
officially like it was it was. It wasn't in doubt anymore. Right,
the financial headquarters, the financial capital of the world was
now New York, Right. World War One ended England's financial
you know primacy in the world and the financial capital.
Speaker 2: Of capital was in America now, and all of a.
Speaker 3: Sudden, the it became very important for.
Speaker 2: JP Morgan, the Institution two. It went from a very
hyper nationalist or a hyper national bank. Right it really
like all of morgan financial power was concentrated into roughly
two buildings plus Pierpont's apartment and.
Speaker 3: Jack's estate in the Hamptons, and that was it. But
a rapid expansion was needed before for them to hold
on to that primacy.
Speaker 2: So Jack ended up moving to England shortly after.
Speaker 3: These guys never really moved to any place not to
you know, call them cosmopolitan, you know, rootless cosmopolitans. But
these men, you know, had a a state in the
UK usually and it wasn't just it wasn't just Jack Morgan.
A lot of these guys did, right that they would
spend the summer months because you know, the hunting, particularly
bird hunting and most importantly fox hunting was it was
just the thing to do. So these men would have
places and you know in the city, New York City,
a place in London in the city, and then a
country estate and usually another estate out in like the
Hampton's or Newport, Rhode Island. But Jack would move to
spend most of his time in his country estate. He
literally became like full on country gentlemen, like out of
what you would imagine like downtown Abbey is right, Like,
that's that's how he, you know, lived the rest of
his life. He would probably spend only five or six
months back in New York because his primary focus became
the international operation of the bank, right, Like, a lot
of responsibility comes from primacy, and so the need for
JP Morgan to have a footprint in Japan, which at
this point was just rising and rapidly industrializing. Capital needed
to be there, and in Shanghai, and in Brussels, and
in France, and and and that really dominated most of
Jack's involvement for the rest of his life in JP Morgan.
So US Operations was really where the core of the
business was, right, you know, kind of like how all
of our even all of our corporate you know, decisions
are now made in Washington, right like it, you know
it power kind of centralizes all by itself. So the
US Operations passed on to a guy by the name
of Thomas Lamont. And Thomas Lamont is probably the It
probably doesn't sound like a very familiar name to anybody,
but if you google Thomas Lamont you'll find out he's
one of the most important people in the last you know,
from merely World War Two onto his death, which I
believe was in the eighties. All right, But the man
who made JP Morgan kind of what it is today
was Thomas Lamont and not Jack Morgan. Right, Jack, at
this point in time, by the time World War two
rolled around, Jack's entire interests were politics, particularly US politics,
you know, being in Europe and seeing what was happening
in Europe increase that even more. But I want to
touch on this type of patronage before we get into
the business plot. Thomas Lamont was an orphan, right, a pauper.
So not only did he have really no family to
speak of, No, I think he had his father, who
I believe died when he was in a twelve or ten,
and the family that Tom's father worked for a right,
this is another thing. Right, So like, let's say you
work for one of these men, right, like you're their
mechanic for their automobiles. Because back then, you know, you
needed a mechanic because you probably had two cars, and
if you didn't have a mechanic, there wouldn't be a
guarantee that one of those two would be running at
any given time. So if you wanted a car that
you could drive, you know, whenever you wanted to, that
required a mechanic to guarantee. So whether you're the mechanic,
whether you're the cobbler, right, you make the you make
one of these men's shoes, you're his tailor, right, you
work closely with any of these men, and if something
were to ever happen to you. Right, this is before
like medicare medicids. So security, like life insurance was kind
of a thing, but it was prohibitively expensive. Really, all
of insurance was prohibitively expensive in that in that time,
whether it be shipping or otherwise, there was no safety
net for you. Right, So if you're the son of
a mechanic and your dad dies, your mom is basically
going to be on the streets and the rest of
your life is gonna look like just abject horror. Right,
And what only the only the was aristocracy made a
point of doing is whenever something like that would happen, Right,
anyone that worked for the family in any capacity, if
something were to happen, they felt it was their duty
to house whether she you know, whether you know you're
the mechanic's wife, you know, your mom in this hypothetical scenario,
got moved into one of the guest homes or you know,
the maid's quarters, whether that be a separate house on
the property or inside the main house, and you would
be sent to boarding school. Right that these people, it's
really a shame. These men believe that it was their
duty to ensure that you were educated to like the
highest degree, right, because you were basically their responsibility.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So if you're going to be their responsibility, you are,
in one way, shape or form, a representation of their
of them, of their magn of who they are as
a man.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So, like the reason why you treat your wife nicely
or your girlfriend very nicely, the reason why you want
her to dress very nicely, be presentable, and why you
want everyone to treat her very very well when she
goes out is because she is a representation of you.
She is your proxy.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So if somebody disrespects her, she's disrespect they're disrespecting you, right.
Speaker 3: And how she appears and how she you know, carries
herself is a representation is a representation of you.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: How your house looks. If your house is a fucking mess,
nobody's going to respect you. Like your home, your family,
your wife. These are all a man's proxies, right, like
his avatars. Wherever they go, they will always be a
representation of him the man.
Speaker 2: And these men viewed that that boundary layer much further
out than we do.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So, if you were in the employee of one of
these men, and God forbids something happen to you, right,
they would take you know, that man's children as their responsibility,
not their children.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: They're not adopting them, right, but they're taking them on
because it was their duty. Right. This man worked for me,
he was under my employee, and now something terrible has
happened to him.
Speaker 2: It is my job as a man to make sure
that his kids have at least every opportunity. Whatever the
children do with the opportunities, right, that's no reflection on you,
But them being denied those opportunities is a reflection on you.
You send the child of your mechanic, your former deceased mechanic,
you send him to the same boarding schools that you
send your children to, because that's the type of person
you are. Not only are your sons, it's expected that
your sons would go to this boarding school, but you
are sending that young man to the same boarding school,
which means you're basically telling something to the world.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: They're telling the world that they have not shirked their duty,
which is really like the defining characteristic of these you know,
how they oriented themselves in the world. So Tom Lamont
was one of those kids, and this is what the
wasp aristocracy did that no other aristocracy did, right, you
It was a type of eugenics.
Speaker 3: And the entire like defining criteria was character. And you
see character talked about all the time, right if you
read uh anything, any of the correspondents of any of
these men, whether it be Rockefeller, would be Carnegie, whether
it be DuPont, any of the DuPont brothers, they talk
about characters so much. All Right, character is you know,
everybody talks about like how based, you know, how based
the National Socialists were. You know that they you know,
they understood the importance of eugenics. Where did they get
that understanding of eugenics from.
Speaker 1: People the progressive movement in the United States?
Speaker 2: Basically mhm no, I mean yeah, well I would say it.
I would say it's not the progressive movement.
Speaker 3: I mean John D. Rockefeller wasn't a progressive and he
was the guy that in doubt all the all of
the institutes. But they were sorting for they were doing eugenics,
but they were sorting for character. If you look at
like all of the genetic the eugenics discussions at the time,
they weren't trying to like root out who is going
to be like the weakest or who is going to
be the most trail or who is going to be
the strongest and the best looking. That's not what they
were sorting for. They were sorting for character rights. It's
impossible to miss if you're looking at any of the
dialogue on eugenics of the time, right like, oh, well,
you know this is a lie, like in these people.
These people, you know, can't reproduce because if you look,
you know both of the parents are criminals, or the
mother is an alcoholic and the father is a criminal.
The children of this union will only have poor character.
So character was a defining thing for the aristocracy of America.
And when they would give out this patron right, when
they take responsibility for these kids, and they would do
it a lot like you could find It would take
you not too much searching, but you could find that
you would find out that John D. Rockefeller probably did that.
He'd probably put forty kids through private school that other
than his children, the DuPonts, even more the Morgans. This
was how they brought new blood into the aristocracy. Right
when anyone somebody was when someone was in their service
and something bad happened to that person, they would take
the children and give the children the same opportunities that
their children had, and they would see, they would sit
and wait, and if the person was of good character,
the same opportunities you know later on in life would
be provided to them.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: That's how you get to be Tom Lamont, you know,
orphan kid going to the nicest prep school in America
because who your dad worked for?
Speaker 1: And you were you were you aware that his great
grandson ned is the governor of Connecticut.
Speaker 2: No, that is right now? Yeah, that's so upsetting, so upsetting.
Speaker 3: One of the things I resent the most is not
being able to live in New England anymore. I grew
up in Connecticut, like I had probably the most idyllic
childhood anyone could ever have. I've done a beautiful old
stone house, uh fucking almost a mile long driveway to
a nice gate with a big stone wall, and the
stone wall ended up ended in two pill with lamp posts.
And that's like, I don't get to live there anymore
because the city governments and the state governments can't stop
borrowing money, and the interest on that money is literally
making them insolvent. So my friends that still live there,
their property taxes are roughly about as much as their mortgage,
except for they're never going to be able to pay
off their property taxes. And unlike their mortgage that stays
roughly the same, their property tax is double pretty much
every five years, So either their money doubles every five years,
which it doesn't. Eventually every town in Connecticut is going
to be the largest property the largest property owners in
Connecticut are going to be you know, the towns themselves.
So yeah, that and how they are intent on, you know,
running the country. Like it drives me nuts that I
can't even live in New England, like the old New
England's the prettiest place in the entire country. Like sorry
you know out West Bros. And sorry Montana Bros. And
sorry Wyoming Bros. Rural New England.
Speaker 2: Is the prettiest place in the entire confident of the
United States.
Speaker 4: It just is.
Speaker 2: And it's the only place with history, right, Like you're
not going to be walking through the woods in anyway. Well,
I mean, yeah, it just gets.
Speaker 1: I think Virginia. I think Virginia bros. Will have a
have a fit if you say it's the only place
it has history.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we also have you have, But Virginia Bros.
Don't get fall like New England gets fall, so they
are as pretty seventy five percent of the time actually,
like yeah, seventy five percent of the time. But then,
like you know, when fall comes around, we kind of
edge our way out in front. And I'm sure they
would be willing to concede that. I will concede their
springs are probably prettier than ours because they get warmer faster.
But yeah, also another place that's been equally destroyed. So
I find it really really funny that that guy, especially
with that name, is now presiding over it. Like just
the absolute destruction of the moral compass of the boomer
generation astounds me. Anyways, getting off track, I do that
a lot, but it was a type of patronage that
I think that we should Obviously, I don't think we
should be putting strangers kids through college or to school,
but I think that this is something that all of
us can do, right if you. I think if somebody
loses their job in our thing, I think it's every
one of our duties to try and help that person
find a new job, like at bare minimum.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just released I just released an episode
this week, uh today myself and uh not me not
you from OGC. He he was on the ground in
North Carolina for the past uh you know, he was
there after the try to help with the relief efforts
and everything. And you know, one of the things he
said at the end was he said, young guys who
think you you know, you're missing out on adventure, go
there right now. People need help. There are people who
are willing to help their The means are there. You
can click up with people in the Old Glory Club
who are on the ground right now. Go do it.
And we owe it. We owe it to to these
people to do it.
Speaker 2: How many people took them up on that?
Speaker 1: I just released the episode so like three hours ago,
So okay, I.
Speaker 2: Missed that first part. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I strongly encourage anybody that's listening to this to go
then listen to that episode and just we need to
be better because we used to be better and we're
really good at making excuses. And I think that's what
mud like. I think that's one of the biggest crutches
of our time, is that we've gotten so much better
and there's so many like little things that take away
your time or could consume your time whenever that we've
gotten really good at coming up with excuses or the
excuses are provided to us for why we don't do
things that we know we should. So, I know there's
a couple guys in the in you know, our thing
that you know, I've tried to help employ, sorry, not personally,
but make sure that they are introduced to people that
will give them a career that they want or a
career that I think that they would be very foolish
to not take. And if you're listening to this and
you're in a similar position, that needs to be something
you do if something bad happens to somebody in our
not just in our thing, Like, if you're listening to this,
you have a responsibility to be better than everybody else.
And not like in the way that all the people
in our that some people in our thing larp as aristocrats,
as disenfrangised a ristics.
Speaker 2: There's nothing.
Speaker 3: That the way the term has been kind of banded
around or sorry bad it about in our things is
really kind of like how you know, the way people
in our thing view aristocracy or nobility is really no
different than how a I don't know how a drug
dealer views wealth. Right, It's there's a term I want
to use, but I know this is probably gonna go
on YouTube, so I won't use it.
Speaker 2: But it is. It's n word rich and we have
a similar concept of nobility and aristocracy. If we go
back in time, what did men of means of nobility? Well,
they didn't think it was about being better than anybody else. Right,
You don't build two thousand churches three thousand churches because
you're better than everybody else. You don't build every public
library in the nation because you're better than everybody else.
You build them because you want everybody else to be better,
just period better, which means that you wouldn't be so
much better than them. Right, If your whole identity is
being better than everybody else, the last thing that you
would want to do is to give.
Speaker 3: People the means, people that you viewed beneath you, the
means to self actualization to be better. But in fact,
that is your duty. That's what nobility is really all about.
It's about those four letters. So whether it's go to
North Carolina and help out, I apologize that was.
Speaker 2: Very rude. Up put my phone on silent. I thought
I already did that. It's your duty to go to
North Carolina if you can and help out. It's your
duty to help get one of our guys a job
when he gets docks or laid off. It's your duty
to help chip in if some unforeseen and regrettable medical
thing happens to one of our guys or just someone
you know, and they don't have insurance. Like we've shirked
so much.
Speaker 3: Of our duty to our fellow people, and we view
it like, oh, well, you know, some times it's tied
up in like religious things, but.
Speaker 2: It's just it's not like charity can and is part of,
you know, the Christian faith. But that's also just what
you should do. If you look like me and you
look like Pete, that's your responsibility. And I think that's
probably the thing that's the most regrettable out of all
the things that we've lost. I think that one's the worst.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the uh, the whole idea of like when we
when we had our event, the Old Glory Club had
our event. You know, it's suit, it's jacket inside the
whole time, the whole time. The Old Glory Club here
in Alabama, when we meet, it's at least jacket. And
there's a reason there's Yeah, and there's a reason for that,
and I think a lot of people don't don't understand
just exactly how casual and that word has many meanings
and it can be taken many ways. We become about
the way we carry ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, how we speak.
Speaker 1: Wearing a jacket. Wearing a jacket makes it a lot
easier to to hide a weapon and too.
Speaker 3: So there is you can actually hide a weapon and
several reloads. You can get at least a couple of
bags in and probably a pc se depending on how
chunky you are. If anybody is listening that doesn't have
the capital for like a nice suit or a nice
suit jacket, I want you to dm me. If you
do have the capital and you lie about it to
get some really really really sick you know dress attire,
you'll have to live with that for the rest of
your life. I don't know what that's going to be like,
but I can't imagine it's great.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, well you would you would hope that somebody's
conscience would be uh, would.
Speaker 2: Be clear exactly.
Speaker 1: You would hope that, Yeah, you'd hope we're dealing with
quality people here, and I know we are, so let's uh.
Speaker 3: Very high quality men. All right, so let's talk a
little bit about the specter of fascism in America.
Speaker 4: Let's do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So the organization that the business plot was
was done out under, right, like what the official organization
was was something called the American Liberty League. And I
know we touched a little bit on that at the
end of last episode, and I'm probably gonna have to
do some house cleaning again on the next one. I
make broad strokes, So yeah, just salt the taste. But
if I were to say right wing fascist and then
I were to say Huey Long, would you think those
things are diametrically opposed or simpler?
Speaker 1: I have no. I have no issue with the term
right wing fascist and Huey Long being in the same sense.
Speaker 2: Well they were, so mister, mister Huey Long was a
very avid voe. So this is a this is a
this is a bigger thing.
Speaker 5: I think I'm getting this Huey Long and.
Speaker 2: And what what his role in this was, but his
presence kind of it points to a larger trend about
what was going on or what these men thought was
going on, right, because what is fascism? Why does Mussolini's
Italy and how his government functions, and Hitler's Germany and
how the Reich functioned, and Franco's Spain and how that
government functioned. Right, If I were to try and like
draw parallels, I would be I'd be in big trouble,
because if fascism is a type of governance structure, how
come all the fascist governments are different?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Like if you know Mussolini and Franco are the same thing,
all right?
Speaker 3: Like how maose Dung and you know Stalin are supposedly
are the same thing. They're both communists, right, well, their
governments function almost identically. Then you have the same names
for the same shit. But I'd be hard pressed to
find really a parallels between any of the so called
fascist nations. The only parallel that I can find, The
only commonality between any of them, all of them is
that they came about as an immune response to communist revolution.
That's the only commonality they have. That their nations were
undergoing a communist revolution, and these were the men that
were organized and capable of fighting against it and pushing
back against it to protect their a their nation and
b all of the citizens in there, even the reluctant
lefty ones, that's the only commonality. So is the US
and the attempted fascism? Is that any different? And I
would argue, no, it's not. And we joke about what
was you know, we joke about FDR, we joke about
the New Deal. We've got a million comedy jokes. And
the Venona Cables proved that there were, in fact a
lot of commies in the Roosevelt government and many of
the governments subsequent. But what are the men at the
time think and why were they so scared? Because they
were scared of something right or else?
Speaker 2: Huey Long John J. Braskin, the founder and chairman of
General Motors, a long time Democrat and DNC supporter, right believe,
at one time he was co chair of the DNC.
He actually was head of the committee that got FDR elected.
So what the fuck is he doing in the American
Liberty League and why is he so scared about what's
happening with FDR? Or what about Al Smith? Al Smith's
a very interesting man. He was the chairman of the
DNC at the time that FDR got elected, Right, he
was actually the Democrat candidate for president the election cycle. Priger,
like you couldn't get more on the same team as FDR.
But somehow now John J. Raskin and Al Smith longtime
Governor of New York and chairman of the Democrat Party,
and these guys and Huey Long are on the same
team as Ire DuPont and Pierre DuPont Iron DuPont. I mean,
this guy funded every extremist right wing political movement in
America his entire lifetime.
Speaker 3: Since he was like fourteen. He's basically the polar opposite
to John Raskin and Al Smith.
Speaker 2: And and Huey Long. Huey Long got famous for fighting
Standard Oil and taking a percentage of those oil profits
at the great State of Louisiana was making and giving
it to some of the people in Louisiana. Right Standard
Oil tried sending people to beat him into a coma
or kill him. I don't think I actually kill him,
but you know, beat the hell out of him. And
he fought Standard Oil for years like he was enemy
number one on John Rockefeller's list for better part of
half a decade. So why is Hute Long on the
American Liberty League.
Speaker 4: With John D.
Speaker 5: Rockefeller? I thought that was very old. So the Rockefeller boys.
At this point he was either he had either just passed,
but the Rockefeller boys. I don't want to have to
do more house cleaning next time.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: Why are these men? Why is John Raskin on the
same team as Henry Ford and Pierpont Morgan?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 2: Why is the chairman of General Motors on the same
team as the founder chairman of Ford? What were these
men asfraid of? Because they were afraid of something? Because
outside of the American Liberty League, these men, I would
be surprised if the two, if any of them bumped
into each other on the street, a fight would ensue.
With Huey Long, I'd guarantee it. So what made these
men come together? And there is a speech that Pete
I sent you this morning that I came across that
just kind of I'm gonna read the last couple of pages,
or sorry, the last couple of paragraphs. They're short.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, here we go, Here we go. Now.
Speaker 2: In conclusion, let me give this solemn warning. There can
be one capital. It is either Washington or Moscow. There
can be only one atmosphere of government, the clear, the pure,
the fresh, free air of America, or the foul breadth
of Communist Russia. There can be only one flag, the
Stars and the stripes or the red flag of the
godless Soviet Union. There can be only one national anthemy
the star spangled banner or the internationale. And there can
be only one victor. If the Constitution wins, we win.
But if the constitution stop, damn, he's really good. Stop
stop there. The Constitution can't lose. The fact is it
has already won, but the news has not reached certain years.
And this was from the first meaning of the American
Liberty League in nineteen thirty two.
Speaker 5: This is from I found this in.
Speaker 3: A cycle teaching American history. It's like a progressive like
I guess if you're one of some progressive college, like
for a law degree, like this is where you go
for additional resources. But here's the study questions. In what
way does Smith believe that the Democrat sort of the
Democratic administration he helped put into office as the chair
of the DNC has not been faithful to the Democrat
Party's platform of nineteen thirty two. Why does he think
the New Deal is somehow Russian Bolshevism and in league
with the Soviet Union? And what is he calling his
fellow Democrats and Republicans to do That's a study question.
I mean, anybody that needs as a study question just
read what I read. I don't know if that's a
question to you. I don't think you've got a very
prominent career in law I had. And what does Smith's
critique of the New Deal compared to that of Herbert
Hoover in his speech this challenge to liberty? And how
does it compare to the criticisms of one Huey Long
in his speech The statement on the Share of Our
Wealth Society and Father Coughland a Third Party A Challenge
to Liberty by Hoover was written to ninth It was
given in nineteen thirty six. Huey Long's speech December of
nineteen thirty five and Father Coughland's a third Party in
nineteen thirty six.
Speaker 2: What the fuck does Al Smith, a Catholic and an Irishman,
the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, former Democratic presidential
candidate Herbert Hoover, the previous president Republican Huey Long, like
Huey Long is just Huey Long. He's like you can't
even call him like a member of a party like
he was a political force in and of himself, and
he ran the state of Louisiana that way, What is
Seewey Long, Al Smith, Herbert Hoover, and father Coughlin have
in common? Your father Coughlan really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta know, Yeah, yeah, strange bedfellows, right, I
mean it's very It's a good question, and you know,
I think maybe even a better question at this point is, well,
what why don't we learn about this in school?
Speaker 4: Right? Like this?
Speaker 2: I mean you want to talk about bipartisanship, right, Like,
if this isn't a guy, this isn't unity, I don't
know what is and what force was so strong that
Jack Morgan, net Rockefeller, John Braskin Irie and Pierre DuPont,
Al Smith, Huey Long, Father Conklin, Henry Ford? Like what's
more powerful than that? Yes?
Speaker 1: When you have when you have the head yeah, when
you have the head of Ford Motor Company and the
head of GM coming together to agree on something, yes, yep.
And this wasn't them coming together to be a plot
to be like, oh yeah, let's let's corner the market
on this and everything. No matter what Tucker wanted to say,
you know, ten years after this fifteen years after this,
Now this was something different. This was something different.
Speaker 5: Where's my ancient Greek history, bros. Right now, because I'm
pretty sure this is exactly what all the Greek city
states had to do. They did to take a break
from killing each other when Xerxites showed up.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Pete, Sorry, well I was going to say.
When obviously, when you look at this, you realize that
this is a movement that the people who they were
going against realized had power, had money behind it, had
influence behind it. And then you you, well, what's one
way to just put a bullet in this. Well, we've
been attacked, we have to go to war. If you
don't all come together. Now, well you're I guess you're
anti American. I guess you're on the side. I guess
you're on the side of the Japanese, or you're on
the side you're on the side of the Germans. And well,
well you know, or they could have said you're on
the side of the Soviets. But no, they took the
side of the Soviets. But now how to start Not
only he has to start at two theater war, you
just have two wars going on, just to stop this
and just to shut them up. And then after the war,
what do you have? You have the greatest propaganda campaign
of all time, which basically makes these men criminals monsters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, if you think that these men were anything
like that, they how they were portrayed, just monster capitalists
that only cared about money. You don't know anything about money.
I'm not saying that I do. But I have led
a rather charmed life so far. I could get hit
by a bus tomorrow, so I'm going to add that
caveat in there, and I wouldn't be angry if I did.
But one thing, I have been able to observe both
a change in myself as I became more successful, and
also from observing those who had more success than one
person could could possibly ask God for and not feel
like they were sitting those people. People that have money
that can't be spent right, if you have let's say,
fifty billion dollars right and a reasonable reasonable rate of return.
And this is what lefties don't understand about money is
how interest works. And so let's say we have fifty
billion dollars one two three mm hmm, I have a million,
one two three, five billion times point one two three.
So if you have fifty billion, let's say the first year,
you act like an absolute maniac. You don't just buy
one jet, you buy three. I had one hundred and
fifty million a pop, sometimes more, depending they started one
hundred and fifty and you buy not one house, but
you buy five, one in every place you like coming right,
one for every season, plus a bonus one maybe, and
you buy palatial estates, say thirty to fifty million. Right,
So what is that I'm up to three four and
a half. So four hundred and fifty million plus another
one hundred million in five houses where I might like
five hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 4: What else?
Speaker 2: What else do we need to buy? What could you
possibly think of? Maybe a yat a mega yacht? You
want mega yacht? Okay, let's say, yeah, I don't like
boats on that much. I'm I'm a very bad WASP.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't go sailing, I don't know how
to sale, and I'm terrible at golf. So like all
of my WASP credentials, like, it's a good thing. I'm
very well read and I speak well because all of
my all of my other WASP credentials like it's pretty rough.
Say you buy another, but you buy a megabout one
hundred and fifty million, which I think is roughly what
Bezos spent on a Now I spent two hundred million.
Speaker 2: Let's just say two hundred million. Fuck it, we're only
seven hundred and fifty million in. We haven't even cracked
our first billion yet. We haven't even cracked a billion
dollars yet. So that fifty billion dollars that earns an
interest every year at a reasonable rate of return ten percent.
I mean, honestly, ultra low risk probably do pull five percent,
but you're gonna have to pull ten now because you're
losing five to inflation. Sorry, buds. That's five hundred million
a year. So the crazy spending spree that we just
talked about, you would have to do that every year.
You can't, You couldn't.
Speaker 5: It would take you, you know, weeks and weeks and
weeks just to pick out the different lethers on one
of the planes, let alone three. Right, you're like three
months in just inspecting jets, not even including the you know,
the homes than the boat, got the fucking boat. Every
single thing I think you you know, you see and
or touch on a boat you get to pick like,
you couldn't spend the money fast enough, So you are
earning more money than it is humanly possible to spend,
and you're not even touching the principle, right, So that
fifty million or fifty billion is never getting spent. And
if you spent, it would take every day of your
life to do nothing but try and figure out new ways,
creative ways to spend money, and you still wouldn't even
be able to burn through half a billion a year.
Speaker 2: Good God, So these people to think that these people
care about money, do things for money, even talk about
money any there's a good rule. My dad taught it
to me, and hopefully, God willing, I will teach you
to my son, because it served me very well in life.
Anybody that talks about money doesn't fucking have any So
to think that any of these men did anything because
of money to make more money, you simply don't understand wealth.
What motivates these men? If I could think of any
remotely tangential i'm sorry, tangential motivator that had anything to
do with money would be capital preservation, right, you could
probably get these guys to do stuff to protect what
they already have. But if you think that they're going
to do, you know, political machinations that could end them
up in them in jail or hurt their legacy, tarnish
their reputation. These men valued reputation and standing far more
than they valued money, and so would you. I know
it sounds ridiculous. It sounds ridiculous to you. But if
you're the guy that is in you know, in that
hypothetical situation that I had to fucking pull out my
calculator for because I'm retarded, if you're that guy, he
doesn't care about money. He probably cares a hell of
a lot more about what people think of him, how
he's perceived, than some investment or a chance to make
more money that what he can't spend. So when you
look at these guys like Elon Right and recent Fiel,
you think money motivates them, you're nuts. You don't understand money. Granted,
I wish that they would take a page out of
the book of the great men that came before them,
because now all they are is just nerds with money.
That makes me sad.
Speaker 5: You know, Elon wants to go to Mars because he
wants to go to Mars not because he wants humanity
to be a space faring nation, right, or America, you know,
to dominate Mars as our next like he that is tertiary.
Speaker 2: Maybe he wants to go to space because Elon Musk
wants to go to space. So the one thing that
I wish that are rich nerds would look back in
time and see, and I understand why they haven't because
the history of these men, what these men were really like,
has been hidden. The only reason I know about it
is because these are family stories, right, Like Pete, you
know a bit about me in my private life. This
is relevant to me, and that's why I know it.
So I can't get angry at anybody for not knowing
what these men were actually like when everything that's written
about them is a fucking lie. But now that we're
starting to clear up the record, right, looking back with
clear eyes and sound judgment and a level of discernment
that did not previously have until certain ethnocentric machinations were
revealed to us. However, I mean, we each got here
different ways, but now that we have, we need to
hold our relief to a higher standard. Because if you
have fifty billion dollars, it's not about you anymore. Right
back to that four letter word, that is the founding,
the central pillar of our society. Right, we live in
the house built for us by better men. We just
fucking live here. We didn't build it, they did. We
just get to hang out in it and stop people
from tearing it down. But when we compare ourselves to them,
these men, our elites don't stack up that great. Our
rich men are just rich men, and that's sad. So
I hope that they familiarize themselves with these great men
who've been slandered to just an insane degree. And how
much they've been slandered should tell you a lot about
how great they were. I don't want Musk to build
a public library in every town like Andrew Carnegie did.
I don't want Peter Thiol to build twenty five hundred
churches in every city in America, because that's already been done.
But I want them to look.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I suck at swallowing today, I want them to
look at these men for inspiration to do something different.
Speaker 2: Dare I say better? It'll be hard to do, you know,
one up of these guys, but it's a worthy pursuit,
and I bet you America in the state it is now.
If you look at how it's embraced Donald Trump, we
are desperate, Like desperate doesn't like it. It almost isn't
like a strong enough word. But we are desperate for nobility.
And if you look back in the time that this
was happening, America loved these men. Right, you can be
a rich nerd cool like nobody knows you. This is
why you're scared of dying. You're throwing millions and millions
and millions of dollars into biotech research to squeeze days
and days more life because you're scared of dying. All right,
if you know you're going to be remembered and loved
for what, Like it's two hundred years almost, and we're
still talking about one hundred years and we're sti talking
to these men. We'll be talking about for another hundred more.
Like you're immortal. You don't have to be like that
guy who's sticking his dick in a freezer. All right,
whatever his name is, something Johnson a fitting name, right
for a guy trying to reverse his age, fucking Hubris
the Pride, But really all it is is just he's
scared of dying. Probably because he's going to have to
meet God, and when that happens, he's going to have
to tell him what he did with the most precious
gift that he was given, and he won't have much
to say.
Speaker 1: This is this is part of the reason, and a
lot of the reason, I would say, probably if you
really want to look back on at the majority of
the reason that you're not allowed to live historically anymore.
Thank you you're not allowed sort of. I mean, if
you're not allowed to, if you're dissuaded, if you're told
it's wrong to look upon your end ancestors and have
pride in them and know and celebrate their accomplishments, how
much less the accomplishments of people you don't know. So
it's just a it's just another mechanism for destroying our
civilization and destroying what came before us, making us believe
that everything that happened back at this time, Oh, this
was such a terrible time to live. There were these
people who all they wanted to do was get rich,
and they would do they would do anything to gain
to gain wealth and gain power. And then when you
look and you find out that they saw what was
coming down the line. They saw, you know, the takeover
by a foreign entity, and they tried to do everything
they could to stop it. And it was only because
of you know, a soldier who yeah, killed Haitians and
you know actually in the field, served his country well
from everything I've read, But when it came down to it,
he was a fucking comy. Yeah, and he decided with
the commis.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that a rare bit of
justice was served. He lived to regret it, he lived
to see it. The thing that Smithley Butler was so
desperately afraid of was World War One happening again. And
the very man that he betrayed to FDR we're trying
to stop the thing that he was so afraid of,
and he sacrificed all those men. Right, what happened to
Father Coughlin, What happened to Henry Ford?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: These men were killed, right, just like the guy freezing
his dick off right now, he's scared of dying because
he doesn't have a legacy, right, He's never going to
have immortality. So they killed these men's memories off, which
I think is far works.
Speaker 1: And here we long, and here we long. They killed, Yeah,
they assassinated a tribesman. A tribesman assassinated him.
Speaker 2: There's a Without talking myself, I think I've told you this, Pepe,
but there is a very widely shared suspicion and rumor
in my family that a similar man, at a similar
time and a similar mission was also killed. There's a
lot of killing. I think that was done in the
lead up to World War two to make it happen.
I think it's no different than what we saw in
the sixties. Right, if these people are willing to kill
to keep that little place, we have to assume that
they were willing to kill to get it. And Smedley
Butler got to live long enough to try and give
speeches against FDR once the man did what he because remember,
like FDR was campaigning on not taking just like fucking
Wilson campaigning on what was Wilson's campaign speech, I will
not be sending our or his campaign slogan like well,
I won't be sending our boys off to some war.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: His his re election thing was Wilson. He kept us
out of war for his first term. But what he
didn't tell everybody is that he was already planning getting
us into it. He just needed his second term, and
that's what FDR did. So the man that Smedley Butler.
Speaker 3: Saved, all right, and betrayed men that trusted him.
Speaker 2: He saved because he'd bought that FDR actually wanted to
keep us out of war. And less than two years
after he did it, after he betrayed all these men,
he lived to see that they were right and that
he was wrong. So I don't know what Smedley Butler's
death was like, but I can't imagine it was good
because I believe, like at the point that you're dying,
right as as that's happening, kind of the veil things
between our world and theirs. And from what I've heard,
from what I've read and accounts that how a man
like you know, if a man lives a certain way,
when he dies, you know his flesh will be will
begin to be clawed at before he actually passes. This
is why some men die screaming. And if you live
a different way, that doesn't happen to you. In fact,
the opposite happens to you. There are those that die
smiling and calm and happy, content And I don't think
he was content when he died because hundreds of thousands
of American boys were being turned into mulch because of him.
America would never be the same again. It would be
I don't know, trying to think of a better word
than you know, like the body snatchers. But that's what
happened all because of him. And it was pride if
you read, and encourage everyone to After Smithley Butler gave
his testimony to the Senate, he did a public announcement
kind of like Rose of else, fireside chat, the TV
and the radio was just like a thing and it's recorded.
It's really good at least the recording quality this is
really good. And you basically see this man so proud
of himself for what he did, and like you could
just you could just see this man this he was
fucking smug, like I did this because I'm a great
American and da da da da da da da da dah.
It just smacks of pride. It's it's really kind of
painful to watch. And anyways, he thought that it was
his you know, he was saving the country by turning
in these traders. It was like, you know, it all
hinged on him. It turns out he was the one
that handed the country over two monsters, the answers that
these men were terrified of enough to where they would
reach out to their sworn enemies, and their sworn enemies
would reach out to them, and they would come together
to try and fight it. And he was too fucking
stupid to ever think. Because before he did turn them in,
he before he did go public, he did spend probably
the last six months before he brought the like, he
even brought in like a journalist's rent to document it,
you know, these meetings, because he needed an extra credibility.
He thought nobody was going to believe him. He was
literally planning like his book tour. Basically, he brought a
writer along with him to document, you know, his detective
work in finding out who all of these people were.
You know, he literally thought he was you know, James
Bond hadn't been invented yet. But anyways, that's the guy,
and so many of our I wouldn't say our guys entirely,
but I do see it occasionally glorify this man. They
all go around talking about, you know, war is a racket,
No war is a diversion. In this instance, all right,
Smedley Butler didn't see the racket. He was the useful idiot.
So I don't want a man with that just deficit
of judgment to tell me what is a racket and
what is not, because he clearly can't see one when
one is staring him in the face. So I don't
think Smedley Butler is qualified to tell any of us
anything except I guess had to blindly betray your country
and sentence the nation's progenity for three generations to vampirism.
Because that's what happened after these guys were gone. Nobody,
no rich men built any more churches, no one built
public libraries anymore. The whole concept of a public library
didn't exist. Like there were university libraries that sometimes people
regular people could go to. But the idea of a
library of building just full of books for you and
your small town in Minnesota, just for you. Why, because
you're an American. That's why you deserve unlimited knowledge. We
want you to have every book there is to have,
and if it doesn't have it, tell the lady at
the counter and she'll get it for you in a week.
Like that didn't exist anywhere, and it never existed again
thanks to him, because no rich men after this ever
did anything like it, because the type of men that
were allowed to be rich were different. They sure as
fuck weren't great.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's also when you even if you
do have the idea to do something, knowing what's gonna
brain down upon you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's your incentive to be great?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: Holy hell coming down on you.
Speaker 4: Like that?
Speaker 2: Like that's American policy. Now we tear down those that
are great because their greatness exposes the weakness of everybody else.
So they must be destroyed and we need and so
you know that I have like a I think a
friend that was a it was a you know, a
political person a long time you know person in Congress
was Viament DANTEI Trumper.
Speaker 4: Ye I am, yep.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: And do you want to know why he I already
told you why that this man went from the most
vehement anti Trumper he has quite a platform, to the
I would probably say, no man in DC believes in
Donald Trump like this man. And this man has known
politics since he was like twelve. He was involved in
like literally involved in like staying at the YMCA.
Speaker 1: Uh So everyone would know this person. Everyone would know
this person's name, even if you weren't alive when he was,
you know, in a very prominent position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this person said, when asked by other people of like,
you know, similar stature, why how he could possibly support
Donald Trump? And when we're talking about Holy Hell reigning
down on you, you could say whatever you want about
Donald Trump. But this guy said, I've studied like I've
studied and been a part of politics and American politics
all of my life, and I've never seen any presidential candidate,
any president, do what Donald Trump has done. He said,
It's like something out of a history book. Yeah, Donald
Trump after his first term could have And this is
why this guy didn't wasn't a big supporter of him
until I would probably say the law fair started right
when all the court cases, the felony started just raining
down on Donald Trump. That's when this guy had his conversion,
because he said that every single president of his lifetime,
he could pretty much kind of guess all of his acts,
like all basically how they would act in any given situation,
in any adversarious situation. He said, I never guessed what
Donald Trump DIDs.
Speaker 5: Like Donald Trump could be. He could spend the rest
of his days out on one of the many beaches
he probably owns outside of mar Alango, which is on
the which is on the beach right, Or he could
be playing golf at any one of the resorts that
he owns right that bear his name.
Speaker 2: He could be in beautiful castles, stunning beach resorts, being
served on handed foot, surrounded by his big, gorgeous family.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: His beautiful wife like Millennia's hot, his gorgeous kids right,
all of his sons are fucking studs. His daughter's hot
like just cranking out even more handsome grandchildren. Just a
man at the pinnacle of success, surrounded by loved ones
all the time. And not only is he risking all
of that as he put all of that on the line,
but not just him, because not only will Donald Trump
be destroyed and everything stripped away from him, this political
guy knows it. I know it, Pete knows it. You
know it that they'll destroy his kids too. They'll probably
destroy his grandkids. They may not throw them at jail
like they would him, but they will strip away every
single bit of inheritance. They would have gotten every dollar,
all the legacy. And I can't even imagine what Donald
Trump's kids would be like if he lost, like what
their life would be like, because it's not just like
not being rich anymore, because that wouldn't be it. It
would be worse than that. The regime is sadistic. The
regime hates like we hate the regime, but that's the
regime started that we didn't start that. You know, they
hit first, But they hate. The regime hates nothing more
than it hates Donald Trump. It would destroy his kids,
his grandkids, and this man is willing to put it
all on the line, not for any reward. Right Like
Donald Trump's life doesn't get better. He spends the last
couple of years basically working for shitty pay, not fucking
golfing in resorts or like chilli on some fucking beach.
The White House is shitty inside anyone who's been inside.
It's an old building. It fucking smells like it it's gross.
Because he believes that he can make America better. That's
why he believes it. Whether you say, like, oh, like
you know he's he's compromising this way or that way, whatever,
like that's your opinion. In certain parts, I'd probably agree
with you. But he believes that he can make the
country better, and he is willing to risk everything in
his life and his children's life, his entire legacy, that
immortality that we were talking about, Yeah, that's gone. They
will they will destroy him worse than they destroyed any
of the men that I mentioned. And that's what made
this man a convert's.
Speaker 5: He's the most fucking vehement Trumper I've ever met, more
than me.
Speaker 2: Because he knows history more than me. He knows political
history more than me. That's why. And if Donald Trump
can do it, you know, this fucking kind of you know,
rough around the edges, you know, not exactly. It's a
good thing. Donald Trump owned, you know, built the owns
a lot of country clubs because he fucking wouldn't get
invited to many. All right, He's from Queens, he's kind
of poorish at least from the standing of people that
run country clubs. So if he can do it, if
he's willing to be like this, I think Elon is
just starting to get there. But every single one of
those men, the men that we talked about, they would
do what Donald Trump did in a heartbeat, and most
of them did. And they were just business men. They
were just rich guys. So if you're a man of meetings.
It's your duty to do what Donald Trump did, all right,
Just like every single one of these there's a listener
that Pete, Pete told me about, and I'll close this
off on him. Even though he went to a prep
school that was the the school he went to, should
make him my sworn enemy because his school was the
sworn enemy of mine.
Speaker 4: Mhm.
Speaker 2: We had men that would be like Mike Frederick.
Speaker 4: T.
Speaker 2: Davison or f Trueby Davison depending all right, when you
talk about like American aristocracy, this guy was one of them.
Speaker 5: He's a Yale guy. I won't hold that against him,
all right, scone bones kid like probably the most privilege
of privileged classes, and even you know, even as a kid,
and he wouldn't have been able to do this unless
his parents didn't think it was his duty.
Speaker 2: So Davison was the founder of the Yale the first
Yale Unit or first Yale Air Unit. So when I
mentioned that those young men in the previous episode that
had everything right, not at the world was their oyster?
What did they do when America got into a conflict
and what did their what did their fathers do? Because
their fathers were too old to fight when World War
two or World War one came around, and now every
single one of us would not let our children anywhere
near recruitment office. But this was different times and these
were different men. So Davison was the founder of that
air club that I talked about. America's first air force
was young men from Yale and their personal planes, right,
and most of them didn't come back. Luckily for us,
Truby did come back, but I bet most of his
friends didn't. So we had elites that made sure that
their sons not only served, but served in combat led men.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So these great men were willing to risk their legacy
right their offspring. It doesn't say, but I'm pretty sure
Trupy was probably the eldest son because he you know,
he usually went young men go by their first initial
and their middle name. Usually it's because somebody else in
the family is also named that, right, like Jack is
just short for John and John JP Morgan his dad
was Pierpont, so he didn't want to go by John Pierpont.
This won by JP. I imagine mister Davison, it probably
it probably worried him sick, sending his boys to war.
Especially something as risky as a fucking airplane back in
those days. But I bet you he didn't think twice
about it, just as like in early twenties, true Davison
didn't think twice about taking his plane and his friends. Right,
most of the first Yale air Unit was comprised of
young men that were in Skull and Bones or Scroll
and Key, which is a similar organization at a different school. Right, Like,
these men could have known whatever they wanted and what
they wanted to do was their duty, and that's what
their parents, their fathers wanted. It was more important that
their sons did their duty. Then their sons stayed alive
because most of those men, right the Raskings, the DuPonts,
they knew that some of their boys were not coming back,
and they did it anyways. Now, our elites, our elites,
send other people's kids to die. So I just hope
some of our elites, now, the elites that have realized
what time it is, that they hold themselves to the
standard of not even just guys like true being or
guys like Raskin, DuPont or Carnegie or Morgan or Rockefeller,
like those are big megashoes, but to hold themselves upo
the same standard as Donald Trump is doing right now,
like a real estate developer from Queen is making every
rich guy look like a coward.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you would hope that those people are out
there and that they're they're thinking about it and they're
making plays. I guess we shall see, because yeah, I mean,
you know, one of the one of the points of
of the Old Glory Club is to identify and raise
up elites, and it all starts with elite thinking yes.
And that's what people That's what a lot of people
don't get is you don't have to think like you've
been taught. You don't have to think like the cog
that school.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to go to prep school, you
know it, to start by, to start my secondary education
in a pretty prestigious prep school. And it gave me
an attitude. It basically gave me. It gave me an
It hasn't always been the best attitude, been able talking
about yeah, but I've been able to reel it in.
And most people just don't get that. You're not getting
that in a classroom full of my classrooms were were
ten fifteen people. You're not getting that in a classroom
full of forty and fifty people and the teacher. You
look at the teacher and you're like, shit, I'm smarter
than that person. Because I'm assuming a lot of people
who are listening to this did the same thing as
me in school, especially in high school, definitely in college.
Oh wow, I'm smarter than this person. This person's a moron,
And yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong
with that kind of add.
Speaker 2: No, I bet you. The attitude that you're talking about,
specifically was that the rules don't apply to you. The
rules apply to other people, right, you know, the people
dumb enough to follow them, Like the people don't enough
the color color, you know, within the lines, Like okay,
but yeah, we've the one thing we're really good at,
I would say, as a thing I guess is meming
things into existence, all right, like we are setting I
mentioned this on Jason's podcast. Everybody should go listen to
Jason Marynchuk's podcast. He's got guys much better than me
on it, like Dark Enlightenment. He's just a brilliant resource.
But I mentioned it on his podcast that even though
we don't realize it, we're too dumb to realize it.
We've been losing so long we don't even see where
we're winning. We're driving the cultural zeitgeist. If you don't
see that, you're foolish. Right, the culture is coming to us.
I could probably waste another hour and a half of
Pete's Evening giving you examples of doing that or how
it's doing that. But I think you can already think
of some yourself.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: So, if we're setting the cultural tempo, if we're setting
the narrative that the other side testified against, and we're
really good at meming things into existence, we need to meme,
we need to propagate, and we need to carry ourselves accordingly.
We need to bring back duty. And there is a
very unhealthy attitude that because the system hates me, I
hate it and I have no duty to it. That's
the wrong way to think about it. The system this nation,
and I may disagree with the E on this right,
but that's my flag. When I look in DC, I
see my buildings. Right when I look at this country,
I see mine, my country, the people that are in
it mine. These are my people. And just like the
people that worked for guys like Jack Morgan. If you're
listening to this. You have a duty to them because
they're your people. Right, You, like Pete mentioned, probably smarter
than everybody in class, probably smarter than the person teaching you.
In a better time, you would have ended up in
a better place. But we don't ask for better times,
and we don't ask for easier jobs. We don't ask for,
you know, an easier go at it. So these are
your people. The institutions are your institutions. The buildings that
they occupy are you. Just because some guests have long
overstayed their welcome doesn't make the guest house no longer
your house. Right, the people in your house are yours
and your responsibility. Whether it's the people in North Carolina,
whether it's the people that are less fortunate in your community,
you need to act accordingly. Right, Aristocracy isn't about thinking
you're better. It's about making people that are your responsibility better.
Give them the ability for self actualization, to be the
best that they can be with the gifts that God
gave them. That's your job. If anybody tries.
Speaker 6: To hurt them or take away their ability for that actualization,
it's your responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: We need to be shepherds, not edge lords. We're better
than these people, not because we think we're better. Others
will think we're better because that's because they're going to
be watching what we do. We're just going to be
better because we are better. And I think we need to.
I think we're in that stage of the game that
we need to start taking ourselves quite a bit more
seriously than we do now, how we act in our communities,
how we act in our day to day lives, because
very soon, I mean, if you understand Roger's theorem, it's
how social networks work, It's how technology works. It's originally
used to model the propagation of technology. It's very important
to technology or for two tech entrepreneurs. Every tech guy
properly or any founder at least knows what I'm talking about.
That Elon knows what I'm talking about. I guarantee it right,
because as you're planning your tech company out right, it's
very important that you understand about how quickly those ideas right,
your new way of doing things or a new piece
of technology propagates throughout society like somebody's come up with
a new solution. It saves bunch of time. Okay, well,
how long does it take for the rest of the
population to understand that this new solution is the better
way of doing things? This platform whatever is that you built?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: How fast those ideas travel will give you an idea
of how much capital you need to outlay, how much
needs to be spent into growing the platform, how much
needs to be spent in bringing on new you know,
new team members. What are you going to need. Roger's
theorem is important. It turns out it's applicable to not
just technology but ideas. It's a very good way to
model how fast ideas propagate through society. And the magic
number of the point of no return I guess before
the curve becomes parabolic or the system becomes nonlinear, I
guess is I may have to do some house cleaning.
It's late, I haven't eaten since yesterday. But I think
it's like thirteen percent, thirteen and a half something like that,
And I'm sure everybody listening would agree. And Pete, do
you think that thirteen percent of the population knows what
we know?
Speaker 1: I think it's got I think, especially over the last year.
If it's not thirteen it's damn fucking close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would actually think it's more to be honest
with you, because Twitter is just whatever. Whatever the conversation
is on Twitter is the conversation in normally land six
months later. Okay, so hypothetically we're past thirteen percent. That
means the knowledge that we have the idea the way
we view the world is eventually right, not hypothetically, not possibly,
is going to be the idea that everyone has the
thinking right, the realization.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So our worldview becoming the dominant worldview is a fata
complete right. The idea is out of the barn. It's coming.
So that means, whether it's a year, whether it's five
years or ten years, people are going to need men
like you to be men like we had a long
time ago, right, Because if the rest of the country
is coming to where we are, right, we have a
whole bunch of people coming to a party at your house, right,
they haven't arrived yet.
Speaker 5: I think you probably should get dressed, all right, have
the table set, you know, get to looking like the
man of the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's uh, let's just end it
right there.
Speaker 2: I think that's the spot.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Until next time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, until next time, man, Thank you very much. And yeah,
hold on, they'll go anywhere, because we're probably going to
talk for another hour without remor probably thanks man,