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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to That's not Mettal, your weekly

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rock and heavy metal, hardcore punk podcast, and welcome back

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to another edition of Hyperblast, where we let you know

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everything that's been going on in the week in news

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in those respective heavy music worlds over the past seven

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days or so. Last week we said something on the

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lines of, you know, last week was a big one,

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and we were like, yeah, God help us, please nothing

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crazy and requiring of a you know, great amount of

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exhaustive discord or whatever. Please nothing happen next week. We

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sort of did and didn't get.

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Speaker 2: There's a few you know, like there's nothing that actually

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know quite like we have to debate the ethics of

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cult psychology and brainwashing and all that shit, and then

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you kind of go, oh, yeah, but you know, there's

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these other things that I've gone on that are just

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like there.

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Speaker 1: Are I feel like it's what would, in an isolated

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kind of time, be quite a big week, but off

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the back of what we've just gone through, it seems

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cut of small stakes. But there is some stuff to

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be talking about, and we're going to do just that.

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My name is Parenhish. The voice you can hear opposite

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me there in sad dignoon and we are going to

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do all of that. Just as said I did mention

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last week that you know, it's been a really bloody

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I can't believe I've basically had like three kind of

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quote festivals in like the last like month basically, so

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I feel like I have to kind of fire through

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them a little bit. But I was again offer another

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big weekend of live music this past week where I

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went to London for Cosmic Void Festival, which is a

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big black metal event that goes on in the heart

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of Camden, and it was kind of it turned into

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sort of an extended week because there were a couple

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of other things that you know, I stuck around in

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town to go to as well. So you know, last

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week I was talking about No Play Festival. So if

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that kind of maybe gave you a few tips on

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some kind of like smaller up and coming hardcore bands

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or whatever, We're gonna hopefully do you know, something of

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the same thing here and give you some pointers, but

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more in the said black metal realm. Because we've aoid

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has been going for a few years. This is my

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first time going. I've like really wanted to go with

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the other ones and this one was where I like

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pulled the trigger on it. Strangely, I went to you

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may remember I went to a festical Celestial Darkness.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say I've saying.

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Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, it's the same promotion company and

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it happens in basically the same like venues and spaces,

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so very bizarrely, I kind of felt like I'd done

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the same festival twice in six months as opposed to

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a year apart, you know, like going to the same venues,

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seeing the same kind of bands, like they're wh is

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whereas Celestial Darkness was a little bit more kind of

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like eclectic, like the head Goblin play and they had

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some kind of more gothy stuff whatever. And bizarrely I

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look at those and I think the Celestial Darkness bill

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should be more kind of like, I don't know, wide appealing,

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but the just super like cult black metal one is

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kind of more established and sold a lot better, So

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you know they're considering again we're talking about a black

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metal festival does not book the likes of Mayhem and

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DeBie Borgear or whatever like massive names to be its headliners.

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It's actually doing really wet well for itself, and I

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got to see, you know, a bunch of kind of

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cool exclusives. You know, some of the only times you're

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going to see some of these bands in the UK basically,

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which is why I made it down there. And I

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guess you know some of the highlights Friday, the headlining

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band was Arcturus, who I'd never seen before, and Sam,

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you've you've heard an art tourist album because of the

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episode of a couple of years with Serena from Svalba.

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Do you remember do you have any memories of that?

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music with black mal bits and just being like, what

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Speaker 2: It was the one album for that special that I

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remember going by, like, yeah, that that one was just.

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Speaker 1: Like I remember it being essentially more appealing than the

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Dodheims Guard record that it got.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yes, no, that that special Man and Glory Hammer

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like all on that special. That was a brutal one.

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I'm just saying, I love remains Resource, but that was brutal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Butchers, I've never seen artists And again that the

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artist record that you've heard is like one of their

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most coherent ones. I was listening to this again. I've

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been spending some time with some of their other records recently,

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and they are they go much further off the rails

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and live. It was fucking like batchit like full on,

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part steampunk circus where they or like goggles and ship

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like that, and part like fucking space opera going on

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behind them. The front man these days is ICs Vortex,

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who used to be in Debi Borgia for a long

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time and his voice is incredible, but also his presence

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as a front man again being some kind of like

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weird steampunk wizard just chatting shit to the crowd was

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again wailing on like circus music, and there's a lot

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going on. I really enjoyed seeing it really really cool

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and to witness there. And that's the kind of, you know,

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the level of bands that we're talking about as being

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like the huge draws at this kind of festive.

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Speaker 2: Established names but like kind of still kind of cult and.

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that like you won't get a lot of chances to

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see and you want to seek them out and that

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kind of you know, exclusivity vibe really kind of you know,

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goes across a lot of this, because the next day

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Wo are a like a cosmic proper spacey black metal

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band who have been going for like ten years at least,

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but this was their worldwide live debut. They'd never played

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a live show before and fitting the you know, cosmic

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galactic vibe, the singer it was a bit for it

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gave me some sleep token vibes, even though obviously no

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one in the area would have recognized that apart from myself,

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but because basically he was like a masked guy, but

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on his like mask he had like an led light

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show or basically forming like a milky way like a

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swirling galaxy, where his face was so like really committed

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to the galactic bit. And they again it was like

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super spacey, atmospheric black metal, but also with like legit

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trance bits, just like just full on devia into like

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full on trance beats and stuff. And that was the

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only time that happened a weekend, so that was like,

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you know, cool, uh and interesting. So Shamash, who are

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of favorite you know, sort of the last ten years

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or so of black metal bands, and they were absolutely excellent.

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because they were wearing like extremely elaborate, like you know,

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Victorian carpet looking garb and stuff like that. Mortuary Drape

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of robes at this festival, but Mortuary Drape are like

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a really old school like one of those bands are

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first wave and second wave black metal, like kind of

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occult sound like they've been dug out of a grave,

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kind of first wave style black metal band, but all

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in you know, like spooky robes and with altars and

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stuff like that. And that was cool to see and

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some male were the headliner for the next day. Who

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are again really so many unique bands, so many bands

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quite parallel. Whether it's you know, from Emperor, the del

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Heines Guard or whatever and Samle or one of those

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who started off basically being like a kind of filthier, dingier,

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more second wave black metal takeer on like Celtic Frost,

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or so are particularly relevant to black metal, and then

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they were playing the thirtieth anniversary of their record Ceremony

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of Opposites, which is the record I love, and it's

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really groovy four to four kind of like almost ac

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DC or Ramstein style, like that kind of when do you

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think about that beat?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: That kind of like very simple, elemental, primal four four

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kind of beat, which you don't associate with black metal. Really,

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it's kind of an interesting thing that they do. They

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take that spin on it, but with like cool keyboard

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some points that because it's a really interesting sounding record.

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machine band. They don't have a live drummer, and it

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back but instead of keyboardist who is leaping around like

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a little leap frog. And I was like, sir, please,

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kind of stuff. And then the next day the last

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to spot the band as like, yeah, there's Dodheims Guard,

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to this, to my memory, and Don hims Guard was

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after six six to six International, which was really like unexpected,

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transition slowly into kind of what you kind of I

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guess you sam know them as. But they came out

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and they played like loads of like fucking old school

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kind of like thrashy, and I was like, was not expecting.

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Times Guard live experience. But it was so intense because

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that guy, considering he wasn't even the front man for

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like a good period of the band's like lifetime, they've

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had a few different singers, he was going fucking mental.

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Speaker 2: I would not expect that given the last God Times Guard.

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the point that like again he looks like he's got

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this really cool quarts pank where he looks at some

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kind of weird like you know, gremlin, goblin, wizard, whatever.

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knees and he did like a gladiator style like thumbs

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smoke or like dust or powder or something, but basically

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he kept like producing this substance that he was throwing

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in the faces of his bandmates. So he'd be walking

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huge puff of smoke would come out of his hand

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into the face of like the bassist or something. At

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one point he went and got the keyboard. This didn't

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like a headlock. And my favorite bit was one of

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a mic stand off him because he was just slamming

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it into the stage like between his legs while screaming

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like just full on animal, fucking completely ape shit.

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cool guy, but I get the impression that everything is

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just like extremely animated, all the emotions.

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for everything. That sounds quite cool.

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show so much like the singers like getting in the

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crowd like a hardcore singer would. But he was like,

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you know, jumping up on the barrier and stuff and

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going fucking mental. And then towards like the very end

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of the set, they did play a couple of like

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six at six international songs, which meant that you'd gone

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from this kind of black thrash type thing to by

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the end of the set being assaulted by like crazy

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electronics and drummer base beats and stuff. It was batshit.

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The best set at the festival definitely in terms of

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like a fucking assault on the senses. And they didn't

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even play like I said, for me, like the best

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time cud stuff. But it was so wild. I want

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to see them again and again see different material. But

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of like it being like a lot I definitely had

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served up to me and that was wicked. And then

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was Treldom, which I mentioned last week, is a band

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that gal is in Ghal of many you know Norwegian

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black metal projects over the years. I nearly went drinking

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with Gahal afterwards through like thrends of thrends, and he

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didn't come out of his hotel, which is anually guted

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about because I was like, oh, going drink kid without

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a bit of story exactly a man specifically famous for

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having a drink in a certain way in a certain movie.

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But yeah, but that didn't happen. But Treldham is about

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again like one of his older projects who he's kind

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of revived with a new record. But the new record

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is like weird as fuck. It's like proper trippy, like

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it gives me like a rancy pazuzu vibes, like it's

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really like which was again very different trendy thing off

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the bill because it was like slow but psychedelic and

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really trippy and really spacey and kind of shamanic. And

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I was with a mate of mine who like does

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not really do anything kind of esoteric, and he like

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gave me the remaining half of his beer to leave

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a couple of songs and things like I can't do

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this I was fair a sixophonist. I really liked it. It

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was really really cool.

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this album.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, that was really really cool to see. And

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the Sunday Headliner was another of the bands that had

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like really drawn me to it, which is Tormentor, which

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is again the first wave black metal band, the band

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that basically a Tillo Chih who is the Mayhem singer.

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so he was in this Hungarian black metal band and

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then went up to Your Way to join them. But

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Tormentor again released some like really really fucking cult material

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in like the late eighties and early nineties, but only recently.

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I think it was like twenty twenty ish, like during

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COVID they like got back together and have started like

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playing shows and stuff again and again. It was like

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UK debut, the first time Tormentor I've ever played in

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the UK because the first time they were a band,

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they were behind the iron curtain, you know, and like

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at Tillochi Har I think is probably the greatest black

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metal singer of all time, and seeing him do this

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like really old school thing, and it was all theatrics,

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and you know, a man of famed outfits over the years.

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If you've never seen the pictures from like the mid

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two thousands Mayhem shows when he stressed up as like

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a rotten easter bunny, you should definitely go and check

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those out. But Tormentor, he came out wearing like a

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burlap sack with like a hunchback on it, and he

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had like some kind of like like whip flogging thing

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and he was just flogging himself over the shoulders like

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a like a medieval monk. But then during like the

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guitar solos and stuff, he'd go over and be flogging

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there instead. And he had like a skull that he

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always has a skull that he throats things into to

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get a certain like resonance out of it, like a

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weird echoe effect. But it was really the thing I

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wasn't expecting was he came out and he started dribbling

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milk onto it. He looked like like an android trom

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alien considering our recent chats, like he just suddenly started

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like producing this white liquid all over this fucking skull

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that he then again proceeded to throat sing into Uh.

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It was a lot. It was a hell of a spectacle,

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and they were playing so like shitterly in a good way.

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He's really really like nasty fucking ramshackle. I couldn't quite

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make it sound good with ear plugs in because I

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think it was just meant to sound like just like

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a kind of cacophony, but some really iconic songs from

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that again early tormented period and stuff as well. They

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played maybe the most low IQ riff I've ever heard

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in a live setting, where they just went dun dun dun,

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mostly out of time with each other for about.

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Speaker 2: Excellent for about two minutes.

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Speaker 1: It was so stupid, but they were wicked and yeah,

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big fucking crazy, far flung stuff from all over the world,

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cool black metal vibes uh. And the reason I get

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hung around and part of what really kind of sold

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me on on on this weekend is the following day

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was the final UK show of Kirathungul, who are a

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band who I don't think we've ever covered specifically on

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the show. We should certainly change that at some point,

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but they are one of the oldest heavy metal bands

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to also not be mega big like I think they're

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they're like, you know, like Judas Priest generation old, Like

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if you look at when they form, they're like, you know,

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really geez. But they other than you know, apart from

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like you know, Judus Priest and I made and kind

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of appealed to big crowd that had a mainstream setibility.

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Kireth Un Goal too weird and very odd ball and

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very like the kind of again slightly off the beaten

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track eccentric heavy metal that we talk about from Smolder

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or you know, Crypt Serban or whatever. Like there's a

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major kurrethung gol Dna in there. Particularly. Their singer has

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one of the craziest squawkiest how are you doing this

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heavy metal voices to ever do it? And he still

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sounds like that, And but it meant that you had

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like a really they were playing you know, a full Underworld.

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It was fucking sweaty in there was so one of

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those like warm full Underworld shows.

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Speaker 2: Dripping off the ceiling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you know, a bunch of likes again

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really dedicated like cult epic heavy metalers coming out to

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see the.

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Speaker 2: Heavy middle Mania accent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're another band who they made. They only

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have like six albums because they made like four albums

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their original run, then broke up and then reunited very

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recently made two more also good albums, and then are

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splitting up again and being like right, so that's it.

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So they have a pretty flawless track record. I've not

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been around for you know, in terms of their total

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amount of years that long. But it was really cool

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to you know, get to go and see them. And

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it was a really good heavy metal bill as well,

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because Heavy Sentence were the opener, who are a Manchester

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band who are pretty well established here but they're like

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getting really I think they're again in that kind of

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dedicated heavy metal scene. I think they're quite popular these

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days and they're on the up, which is cool to

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see because they're really good. I'd say Heavy Sentence are

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for fans of like Paul Deano erat Iron Maiden and

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the best Saxon albums. Like it's new way of British

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heavy metal, but like it's kind of dirty and kind

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of like workmen like and a bit of punk in there.

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And they were fucking really really good. I've seen them

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a few times and again they're really great show, but

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it was nice see them again opening band get a

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really strong reception and like people like flying around and

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stuff like that. And then Night Demon were the main support,

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which I think is in because one of the most

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aptly named this person could only ever do heavy metal

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people named ever, it's the Jarvis Leatherby. Night Demon I

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think was quite instrumental in getting Kithung Goal back together

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because he plays bass of them now and stuff as well.

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But his band Night Demon were main support. And I

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think you know, a lot of you guys listening probably

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no Night Demon there another like the highlights of the

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current you know, kind of heavy metal scene. And again

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they've got a really great response, really like proper showmanship,

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a great set of bangers, really fun. And then Kirathung

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Goal again strange bands, strange vibes, not like a normal

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I don't know, like it can be an arms in

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the air sing a long thing, but it's always with

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this slight air of kind of oddness to it, as

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opposed to just like a very basic, you know, iron

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made and put your arms in the air whatever thing.

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And because of the way the guy sings, you just

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have a room full of people going come on and

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ride the black machine. All this like crazy bizarre hooks

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and stuff incredible like aviators indoors look really really again,

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I said to myself, I was like, I'll go and

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see the careth On Goal Show if it comes to

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the UK. I think it's the only second time they

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ever played the UK. So I feel quite grateful that

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we actually did get a stop on the kind of

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farewell toalk because you know, not every bad in their

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smaller position might might do that, but I did. And

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so that was the kind of the close to that

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little little jaunt there. So as we go into the news,

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and you know, this isn't even including you said earlier

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Sam to us as someone else having done Dave Groll,

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which I just couldn't believe another one in ins many

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weeks immediately following on for that and again not going

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to specifically call it out too much or anything, but

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but I do want to say the sentence of he

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was celebrating other women and their stories on tour was

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that were put in our group chat earlier is one

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of the funniest things I've maybe ever read. But let's

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move into the proper news, and I guess we'll start

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with the kind of good, exciting bit of news, which

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is that Iron Maiden have announced another tour. I knew

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that obviously this would be coming eventually, but it does

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feel very soon that, like, you know, it was only

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like three months ago or something that the you know,

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the Future Past tour came through the UK. But Iron

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Maiden have announced for twenty twenty five the Run for

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Your Lives fiftieth Anniversary tour. Nineteen seventy five is when

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Iron Maiden actually formed, even though didn't release an album

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like five years, but that is the fiftieth anniversary tour

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coming next year. It is going to be coming through

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the UK and Europe between May and August. The UK

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dates are in late June. Support comes from the raven

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Age and Hailstorm, but only in the UK on I

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think the London. Yeah, in the UK London and also

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of UK and Ireland Dublin dates, and of.

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Speaker 2: Course the raven Ager is supporting. Who asked would like I.

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Speaker 1: Know, I like, I don't care about Hailstorm. I don't

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like them, I never have. I think they're a boring band.

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And yet I was disappointed that Hailstorm were not on

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the date. That is, you know, I'm going to be

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aiming to go to because at least it's a band

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of like some stature, like a band who in some

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sense of the word means something rather than the raven age. Again,

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a band who I don't know if they've ever supported

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any other band.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they play shows outside of supporting

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Iron Maiden.

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Speaker 1: Honestly at this no, But you know, I think we again,

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we all knew exactly what would be going on with

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this in terms of when I mainly came around again,

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they've just done even I. It was, you know, combined

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with somewhere in time, it was the new album tour

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for Send You To, so obviously the next one would

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be a kind of great it's hip classic thing. Yes,

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and so a fiftieth anniversary setlist, and it says on

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the poster from Iron Maiden to Fear of the Dark.

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So basically the original Bruce Dickinson tenure of the band

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is the where the set list is being drawn from.

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And again I've seen I Am Maiden twice. Both of

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them have been on like the new album tours, and

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I've had to miss the kind of legacy ones. So

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this is basically exactly the tour that I personally was

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waiting for.

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Speaker 2: This is such a dilemma for me because I've never

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seen Iron Maiden. I made on this tour. Doing this

477
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set list essentially the perfect time for me to see

478
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,720
Iron Maiden. The London date, though, I guess was going

479
00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:32,200
to bloody clashing with outbreakinga Outbreak like my like my

480
00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:36,400
festivals ort of like Holy Ground at this point, clashing

481
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,359
with like Iron Maiden, and I'm just like, yeah, I

482
00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:42,799
might look at doing Manster or something. I need to

483
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,480
mean way to get to get away because of other

484
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,720
big things going on my life on them, but I'm

485
00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:48,240
kind of going to.

486
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,319
Speaker 1: Weigh up, Yeah, it looks like you might have to

487
00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:51,440
swing Manchester or something.

488
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, or I might have to give Outbreak a pass

489
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,440
this year because I do really want to see Maiden

490
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,160
at some point. I don't think that probably not Like

491
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,039
if out Break decided to not book an amazing gunap

492
00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:08,559
and there's still tickets left for this in London, I'll yeah.

493
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,559
Speaker 1: But the fact that it's called the Run for Your

494
00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:13,799
Lives Tour that obviously means you know, runs the Hills

495
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,759
very much in the set list, a song that, again

496
00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:17,599
on the two Iron Main tours I have been to,

497
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,880
they have not played.

498
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: It's so absurd that like that Iron Made and can

499
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,319
happily just not play vantage.

500
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen how you with Our Name either.

501
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,880
Those were the two songs that were like big ones

502
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,759
that they just dropped out of the set on both occasions.

503
00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:33,559
So again I've got to see this stuff. Very exciting

504
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,039
to see see that come around. And again, you don't

505
00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:38,920
know that kind of back and forth we spoke about

506
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,680
of you know, new album tour and then a legacy

507
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,559
tour whatever, Like how many of those switches do Iron

508
00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:46,240
Made and still have in them? You know? Like, yeah,

509
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:49,000
I don't necessarily think the send will end up being

510
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,759
the final Iron Made and album. It could be, but

511
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:52,119
they might have another one in them, you don't know.

512
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,440
But again that back and forth switching of new to legacy,

513
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,960
new to legacy, how many.

514
00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: When a band is sill having fifty years, it's like

515
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:02,240
a long time anymore, Like that's a long time to

516
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,240
be a band, Like how much longer have you got in?

517
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,839
Like like hopefully that like this running twenty twenty six,

518
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,480
So even if you know, I don't make it to

519
00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:12,480
the tour this year, maybe if it swings around, going

520
00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:14,720
to download next Shaw some in twenty twenty six, like

521
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,440
who knows? But yeah, this is this feels like a

522
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,200
real like a moment to go see Iron main, especially

523
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,119
with them doing a massive stadium show in London, like

524
00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:25,640
doing the London Stadium. That's that's big.

525
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah I didn't. I didn't actually twig that.

526
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: Was all Yeah, arenas arena's everywhere else and then London

527
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,000
they are They're going all out massive.

528
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Manchester Arena is like the new big one,

529
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,799
but they've opened up, so I think they're you know,

530
00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:39,519
they're aimen kind of large across the board. And the

531
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:42,079
other interesting detail that springs up to me is something

532
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:45,440
that again the TNM discord was kind of picking up

533
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,440
on a little bit, is if it says, you know,

534
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,640
from the nineteen eighty cell titled Iron Made album through

535
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,559
to Fear of the Dark, which is obviously you know,

536
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:56,400
the initial classic Bruce Dickinson era, but that does include,

537
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,720
in my opinion, what is probably the weakest Dying Maiden album,

538
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,519
which is No Prayer for the Dying, And if they're

539
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,759
going to include, like you know, at least a song

540
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,799
from every one of those albums, there are some songs

541
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,200
from the Prayer and the Dying which would be like

542
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:12,640
interesting to see, you know, that's not an album they

543
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,240
tend to draw anything from really, and it's like, does

544
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:18,440
this mean bring your Daughter to the Slaughter is coming

545
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,480
back to the set list? Are they?

546
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good song as.

547
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: A banger, but like, you know, the Fames thing with

548
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:27,000
that track was that was originally meant to be a

549
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,039
Bruce Dickers and solo track, Yeah, and then got kind

550
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:30,279
of ported over. So I don't know how the rest

551
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:31,920
of the band feel about it. I don't know, but like

552
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,359
you know, Tail Gunner, Mother Russia, I don't know what,

553
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,200
but yeah, interesting set list, kind of potentials. Nonetheless, even

554
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,000
with it being a kind of you know, straightforward classics

555
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,720
focused tour, but that is very very exciting news. Indeed,

556
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,680
the kind of oh god, what's going on here news

557
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,240
that we maybe allude to it at the very beginning

558
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:58,039
is something that again it is big, yet in contrast

559
00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:00,880
to last week, feels like again falling slightly by the wayside.

560
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,960
But it was also like, I I wish I could

561
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,640
just laugh at Jane's addiction punching each other on stage,

562
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,799
but we can't even laugh at this stuff anymore because

563
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:14,200
there's a whole thing going on with essentially you know,

564
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,680
it being the seemingly the effects of something of a

565
00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:20,599
kind of you know, uh, a bit of a breakdown basically,

566
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,559
and you know, the whole story that's unfolded here is

567
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:28,960
that Jane's addiction, who we only spoke about, you know,

568
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,680
releasing their first song together with the kind of classic

569
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,720
lineup in a long time, very recently, and they haven't

570
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,880
even released an album or anything yet that we thought

571
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,400
that would be you know, from and maybe still will

572
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,279
be from. But they had a scrap on stage basically

573
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,960
where Perry Farrell tried to punch Dave Navarro on stage,

574
00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:50,039
which again, the first day that happened, you could just

575
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,480
laugh at that a little bit like you know, fucking

576
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,799
it was at the View or whatever, who like got

577
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:57,279
into you know, whatever happened there their first.

578
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,559
Speaker 2: Day back and their comeback to her and they were

579
00:27:58,559 --> 00:27:59,359
punching on stage.

580
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but which you know, maybe a bigger, better, more

581
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,559
relevant alternative rock version. But immediately after that they've canceled

582
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:09,839
the rest of the tour seemingly kind of gone on

583
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:13,759
a hiatus. Again. The hilarious kind of unfolding of this

584
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:15,519
in a few days that followed is they still had

585
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,079
a new single single to fuck.

586
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:22,519
Speaker 2: When that single job on was like, is this a

587
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:24,960
whole pir stunt? Is the on stage fighter pr stunt

588
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,640
for the single? And it's like no, no, no, no,

589
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,319
this is genuinely like things are getting bad in the

590
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,279
band and it's all kind of like spilled out on stage,

591
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:32,680
but the single was there to go.

592
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: So yeah. And the last update that I have on

593
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,240
this again as we are recording is Dave Navarro seems

594
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,759
to have gone on record basically saying that this might

595
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,680
be the end of that James Addiction kind of reunion.

596
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,839
He says, it's like, you know, it's a shame that

597
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,519
things had to kind of end this way, which I

598
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:54,920
you know, I'm I'm not invested in a Jane Addiction reunion.

599
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,680
I can't pretend that I am. So I don't even

600
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,079
know necessarily how how long we went without them, I suppose,

601
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,640
but the fact that again there was that big news

602
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,559
of like have reasoned their first trap together in however

603
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:10,640
many years went on tour, and within what must be

604
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:13,839
just a few weeks from that, seemingly the entire thing

605
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,039
has not just resulted in on stage bust up, but

606
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:19,599
like it's basically what people are like, it imagined that

607
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,200
the Gallagher brothers are going to do right, which they

608
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,000
probably won't. But this is mad that this is like

609
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,720
just spiraled so swiftly, like it just it.

610
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,599
Speaker 2: Just feels so like Milicia's had to know, like and yeah,

611
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,240
they fallout from me, and like I feel bad for

612
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:39,160
like the band movies, You've kind of just had this

613
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:41,759
like frost on the matter. And again we don't know

614
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,000
what like the actual things that have occurred between members

615
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000
of the bands kind of set this off. But yeah,

616
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:48,680
the whole thing is just this is just kind of

617
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,519
like crazy unraveling all at once.

618
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, like David Mara says, I'm sadden about

619
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,440
the fact that you will likely never hear our new

620
00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:59,480
song that they've just released live. So he seems to be.

621
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: I don't blame him if he wants to be if

622
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:04,759
he wants to be done with it, given you know,

623
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,200
he's just playing and he just andry just comes up

624
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,920
and just swings at him like seemingly for no reason.

625
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,079
I like to him at that moment, I can't really

626
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:17,519
say I blame Davon and for wanting to, you know,

627
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:20,559
be out, but yeah, it's just it's crazy one.

628
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:21,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know. I feel like this is

629
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,000
going to slightly and be forgotten in the aftermath of

630
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,319
the Lincoln partnies and everything, but like this has to

631
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:31,119
be one of the most snuffed out realiens like I

632
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,839
can personally ever remember.

633
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, the Jax remune has been going

634
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,279
on for a good while. I guess this was just

635
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:40,119
you know, the time when actually finally seem like there

636
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,039
was going to be something creative coming from it rather

637
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,599
than them just you know, playing shows every couple of years,

638
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,799
and that's then the moment they've tried to do that,

639
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:48,839
at the moment it's gone completely to it's up.

640
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess then there's probably more songs

641
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:53,480
than the Tank have been, you know, from an album

642
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,640
or something, so maybe that will come out. Maybe that

643
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,839
wasn't I don't know, but yeah, I mean, like if

644
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,000
you are like a you know, a really big Jane

645
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,359
Addiction fan, and you had a particular investment in the

646
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,400
kind of you know, the return of them, you know,

647
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,039
let us know how you kind of feel about the

648
00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:11,519
reunion just sort of like falling by the wayside this way.

649
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:13,880
But yeah, a mad few days of views in that

650
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,119
particularly regard the story that I just don't really want

651
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:18,759
to talk about.

652
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm not touching this, I said, I have no like because.

653
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the in you know, maybe slightly closer to

654
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:30,559
home in terms of our sort of slightly more grassroots

655
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,000
metal thing that we talk about. Whatever. The story has been.

656
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,079
Power Trip, who of course have been you know, reuniting

657
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:39,200
playing shows over the last year or so, have been

658
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,079
announced for their first UK shows since their you know return,

659
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,160
since the death of Dy Gale. Everything supporting that big

660
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,279
Panterra tour that's coming through and that alone would be

661
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,000
enough for some people to kind of roll eyes, draw

662
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,599
a line, whatever you want to do again, that's up

663
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,960
to the individual. But quotes were kind of dragged out

664
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,799
resurfaced from Riley Gale basically saying that they had turned

665
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,160
down a tour with super Joint Ritual, which of course

666
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,599
also features Philanselmo, specifically because he did not want to

667
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,559
kind of associate Power Trip with Phil Anselmo, who at

668
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:16,440
the time he sort of twenty seventeen ish when this

669
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:22,480
quote is from obviously was much more recently, you know,

670
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:25,799
kind of in the news about the whole yeah, white power,

671
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,319
white you know white Sperimc's salute thing that went went

672
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:33,000
down and has obviously kind of tailed him and his

673
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:38,119
reputation ever since. And so Power Trip in Riley's absence

674
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:41,640
touring with a Philanselmo band, a lot of people have

675
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,880
basically used that quote to say that, you know, in

676
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,279
a not unlike the whole Chester Bennington scenario thing or whatever,

677
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:51,400
that they are pissing on Riley's memory whatever. And again

678
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,559
I I do not want to get involved in this.

679
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,759
I I think if you read the whole quote from Riley,

680
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,039
it's it's an interesting quote. He does not expect I mean,

681
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,519
he says in it, I think Phil is probably a

682
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:09,759
good person. Like he talks about the the shitty kind

683
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,880
of appearance of obviously what he did and not wanting

684
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,359
to he speaks about it kind of in a at

685
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,160
least how I read what he said. Obviously don't that

686
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,559
words in a dead man's mouth, but he seemed to

687
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,240
speak about it in a way of like, again, I

688
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:26,240
don't want to associate Power Trip with people who have

689
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,279
that kind of thing around them and muddle. I guess

690
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:32,559
maybe what power Trip stands for, but he does not explicitly,

691
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:36,279
he does not say like Phil is a racist shit bag,

692
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:37,799
And I never want to speak to him in my life.

693
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:41,039
He does say that, you know, people are nuanced, and

694
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,279
everything kind of pull out of that. So the whole

695
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,680
quote in itself is again, it's it's it's it's a

696
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,400
it's a nuanced interesting way of having it put as

697
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:56,000
as Riley tended to do. Maybe enough time has passed

698
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,960
since then that they don't feel like, obviously you can

699
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,880
disagree with this and many people, but maybe enough time

700
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,240
has passed that they don't feel like they are kind

701
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:07,640
of endorsing Phil's reactions by touring with him right off

702
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,599
the back of the whole white power Yeah incident that happened.

703
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,599
Maybe it's just, you know, again, the guys who are

704
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,519
still in Power Trip to this day do not feel

705
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:22,679
quite as I don't know, principled about it or whatever.

706
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:25,239
I think you can clearly tell the Power Trip are

707
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:31,199
a band who like Pantera and you know, yeah take

708
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,400
influence from them. Yeah. Again, if you're upset about this,

709
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:42,239
I understand I I to a degree, I feel like

710
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,119
Phil and Selmo is back, you know, like he's in

711
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,920
the metal scene. It's kind of hard to kick him out.

712
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,679
Speaker 2: That's it. But again, like there's a whole nor is why.

713
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,519
I'm just I'm just I have no comment on this one,

714
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:53,639
to be honest, Like, it's what it's happened, is what

715
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,760
it is. I don't really want to dig into dig

716
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,360
into it because there's just no one's going to come

717
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,760
out of it looking particularly nice.

718
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:05,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just a needily conversation that as said,

719
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:07,960
I I understand if you're upset. I personally, I don't

720
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,360
think I am gonna, like, you know, pull the fucking

721
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,679
hammer down on Power Trip for this particular one, but

722
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,760
it is what it is. It is mad that those

723
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,360
like again the first UK shows, Like, if you want

724
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,239
to see Power Trip again in the UK, currently the

725
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,079
only way you can do it is to see Pantera,

726
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,079
which I you know, was not planning on doing. But

727
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:26,559
you know, maybe there will be more Gadjira seemingly. I

728
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:28,079
don't know if this is like this week or if

729
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:29,639
this has just been reported on this week or something,

730
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:33,519
but their Olympic show got projected onto the side of

731
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:37,559
the Octa tree off, which is fucking mad that France

732
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,039
is still doing this. It's been like, you know a

733
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:43,199
while now since the Olympics and they're still going, yeah, yeah,

734
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,320
remember the thing we did with that metal band, which

735
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,800
is gonna blow that up onto the side of like

736
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,639
another of our most famous landmarks for everyone to see. Incredible.

737
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean obviously, I know they obviously had the actual

738
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,119
track release, not yeah, you know, to coincide with that,

739
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,639
But it's just cool. I'm always just down for the

740
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:04,000
reminder that this was a really gnardy thing that happened.

741
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like that. The country of France it's

742
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:12,239
still milking this again. England would never This is very

743
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,639
exciting to me. The Cure have been four years saying

744
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:19,639
that they have a new album right, and it was

745
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:20,880
one of those ones where I was like, okay, I

746
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,920
believe it when I was it because the Cure, you know,

747
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,920
pretty regularly released albums for their entire lifespan as a

748
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,840
band up until their most recent album, which came out

749
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,880
in two thousand and eight. You know, every few years,

750
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,000
four or five years whatever, they would always have an

751
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,559
album out, didn't release down Arthur two thousand and eight.

752
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:43,079
Obviously continue to exist, play shows, whatever, But you went, okay,

753
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:44,880
are you just a legacy band now? Is there going

754
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,920
to be no more material? And Robert Smith always said,

755
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,639
you know there is material, it's coming, but it took

756
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,679
sixteen years of like no news, so whatever. But there

757
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:57,599
has been a marketing campaign popping up this past week,

758
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:00,840
including again little teaser posters and critic hints and that

759
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,199
kind of thing that seemed to suggest that the long

760
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,400
rumored Cure album. We even have a date that seems

761
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,159
to have come from somewhere November the first is apparently

762
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:11,679
when it is sort of you know, alleged to a.

763
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: Was just just like on a pub outside whether they

764
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,480
used to play or something.

765
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:15,199
Speaker 1: Yeah like that.

766
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,679
Speaker 2: It'sort of like just like weird, little like niche viral

767
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,199
marketing things. I'm like, this is kind of corn interesting

768
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:21,599
and exciting.

769
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Cure, who have not released an album

770
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,119
in my time of like you know, particularly following this

771
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,119
kind of music, have an album apparently in the.

772
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: Work time to and a new Cure album and the

773
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,880
return always going unbelievable.

774
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm a I'm a huge fan of

775
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,519
the Cure. They're one of the greatest bands of all time.

776
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,760
But that also, you know a lot of their material

777
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,239
from you know, all different eras of the band is worse.

778
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:53,599
Have you ever heard like, let's say, the two thousands Cure.

779
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,159
Speaker 2: Albums I'm not as in on the two thousands. I

780
00:37:57,199 --> 00:37:58,519
need to spend a bit more time with it because

781
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:00,639
I kind of like I go to the Cure properly

782
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:02,760
a couple of years ago. I'm quite late to the Cure.

783
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,639
I think the one I'm with you on the one

784
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,159
of the greatest bands ever point, But I am very

785
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,440
much on the kind of like eighties cure like stuff,

786
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,039
and then kind of that into the night stuff. It's

787
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,559
I need to listen to the more, Like I said,

788
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:17,679
we're reason the two thousand stuff in a bit more

789
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,039
like depth to really kind of form an opinion on it.

790
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess you know the three albums they

791
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,599
released in the twenty first entry. There's the there's Blood Flowers,

792
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,760
which is really fucking good, which is kind of it's

793
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,840
sort of they kind of try and loosely position it

794
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,320
in a trilogy with pornography and disintegration as like the

795
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,119
Dark Ones.

796
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I've listened to that one. That might be the

797
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,519
one I've actually listened to him for.

798
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,039
Speaker 1: I would say that's the best of their like two

799
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,280
thousands album. That's a really good album. And then there's

800
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,599
famously the one that they did with Ross Robinson, which

801
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,880
has obviously its own different kind of spin and appeal

802
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,559
on it. Yeah, and then the last album, which is

803
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,599
I would say is a good album. I don't think

804
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:54,119
it's one of the standout ones, but it's a you know,

805
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:57,320
it's a respectable album from a band of the cures vintage.

806
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,719
But yeah, so the follow up to that, after sixteen years,

807
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,760
I don't know that, you know, how does the band

808
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,639
pick up from that? I don't know, but well apparently

809
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,360
we will see and we might actually have a you know,

810
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,840
a new QRE album of all the bands to be

811
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,719
talking about in a couple of months time, So you

812
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,039
can count me in for a bit of that for sure.

813
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:18,280
The second headliner of Fortress Festival, the black metal festival

814
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,239
that takes place up in Scarborough, was announced this week.

815
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,119
The first one was of course Agalock, which is a

816
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,280
massively you know, in that world, a huge deal return

817
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,920
of that band playing you know, in Europe for the

818
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,559
first time in you know, about a decade at that point.

819
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,280
The second headliner is thirteen forty nine, which is a

820
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:42,360
much more like traditional black metal headliner because Agaloque, you know,

821
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:47,239
very kind of progressive minded kind of band. Thirteen forty

822
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,679
nine they play black metal and it rips. It's less

823
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:54,480
of like a big deal, holy shit booking than Agaloc,

824
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,840
but I think it's nice to have a more purest

825
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,800
black metal band headliner alongside something a little bit kind

826
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,960
again outside the box, like like Aglock and for that

827
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,960
scene in that world, that's a strong booking. I am

828
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,679
a thirteen to thirty nine fan. I would like to

829
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,840
see them again, so that is again a nice pairing

830
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:18,159
to go with that. The Ocean have been announced they're

831
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:22,119
playing Damnation and they're playing their palagial album a Damnation,

832
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,599
but there was an announcement came with that the upcoming

833
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:26,480
shows that they have, which includes Damnation in various other

834
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,280
sort of European shows, are going to be their last

835
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,960
shows with the current lineup, which is an interesting way

836
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,079
of phrasing. I don't know if that's sort of a

837
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,559
swan's situation where they seem to be saying, you know

838
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:36,719
that we will be continuing, but there seems to be

839
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,519
a shake up going there. But you know, if you

840
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:40,239
are a big Ocean fan and that really means something

841
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,320
to you, then that's obviously the news that you need

842
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,440
to know. Trivium and Bullet for my Valentines. The Poison

843
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:52,559
Slash Ascendancy Celebration Tour has announced you sorry, North American

844
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:56,559
dates this week. August Burns read silosis and belief within

845
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:59,360
the who have to see the UK bands appearing as

846
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,559
the support on the the US bills going over there.

847
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,559
But if you are a American listener and you were like, damn,

848
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:06,440
I really want to see the Poison and Ascendency in

849
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,400
one night, you now have the opportunity to do so

850
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,119
as well. Mark Hoppus has a memoir coming out, co

851
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,000
written with Dan Auzzy, who has written a whole bunch

852
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,880
of sort of punk related.

853
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really well regarded, that sort of very.

854
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: And you know, Mark Coppers has had an interesting life.

855
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,599
You know, the trajectory of Blink twenty two, going from

856
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,199
you know, a snotty pop punk band to like a

857
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,800
pop band for all interns of purposes in terms of

858
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,679
like how the punks of the scene viewed them, there's

859
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,559
got to be some interesting, you know, stories involved in there.

860
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,320
Something I spotted on Instagram today is that Ben Kohler

861
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,199
is selling the drum kit that was played on Jane Doe.

862
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:46,199
He apparently dug it out and there's a video of

863
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,159
him playing it, and it looks really rusty and it

864
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:52,559
has the cow bell there from fucking home Wrecker. But

865
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:54,760
he's saying and he offers to take the drum kit

866
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,719
off my hand. So if you really want the drum

867
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,320
kit that has recorded the fucking Jane Doe.

868
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: Album, one of the greatest sounds ever, one of the great.

869
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,559
Speaker 1: Drum sounds ever as well on that, Yeah, cough up

870
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:09,280
your funds and head to his d MS. And unfortunate

871
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,360
news this week Brewhia front man Juan Brujoon, which I

872
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,119
believe is his kind of you know, Breuhier stage name

873
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:17,800
because of the whole mythology that goes with that band.

874
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:21,480
But he very suddenly passed away of a heart attack.

875
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,639
And this comes only a few months after another brew

876
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:28,920
Heier's you know, long standing members Pinche Peach, also passed

877
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,000
away recently. So that's two of the kind of you know,

878
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:35,039
the old guard of a very strange and interesting band

879
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:36,719
in terms of the place they hold in kind of

880
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,079
grindcore and definite history and so on. But obviously a

881
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:43,679
lot of associations with so many of the you know,

882
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,119
the legends of that scene with you know, Carcase and

883
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:47,920
even fear Factory and whatever, and so a lot of

884
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:51,400
respects being paid to the you know, both those Brehia

885
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,960
guys who have passed away in recent months, and again

886
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,559
with there being such long standing members, I don't know

887
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,599
what that necessarily means for the future of that band,

888
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:02,639
but know we we acknowledge that here and I also

889
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,400
I feel like I should acknowledge the passing of Michelle Kerr,

890
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:10,880
who was the co founder of Kosa Nostra PR also

891
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,519
famously you know, through the nineteen nineties and two thousands,

892
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,119
a significant part of the PR teams over at road

893
00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:20,039
Runner and so on at you know, obviously the one

894
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,519
of the peak eras of that labels dominance and so

895
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:27,199
many records, and this is a you know, this is

896
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:32,079
an industry loss obviously, like and so working in the

897
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:37,079
industry and seeing so many people who we know and

898
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:41,519
work with and so on obviously you know, being affected

899
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:45,360
by this and posting their tributes and so on, a

900
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,599
really big loss in terms of again particularly the UK industry,

901
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:52,760
in terms of how this whole little corner works. So

902
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,559
many people seem to have their you know, long standing

903
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:59,480
relationships of working with Michelle from the nineties or you know,

904
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:02,639
the la last decade or whatever. I only ever met

905
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,960
Michelle once. It was at Bloodstock last year, and although

906
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,639
weirdly it was a you know, in its own way,

907
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:11,400
a kind of memorable interaction that seems to be very

908
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,679
on brand for her in terms of how everyone kind

909
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:19,199
of spoke about her, but not someone who I have

910
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,559
that same long standing, you know, close relationship with, So

911
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,719
you know, I felt a little bit funny seeing so

912
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,719
many people post there, you know, those kind of stories

913
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,000
and so one, because obviously that's I wasn't involved to

914
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:32,239
that degree. But you know, I did did meet her.

915
00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:34,639
She did you know, she worked with us to to

916
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,400
to some degree and a such a hugely respected part

917
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,199
of the UK industry, and very bizarrely I did also

918
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,880
again when I was away this weekend in London, I

919
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,119
found myself in the Hampstead Heath area, which has been

920
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:50,880
posted here as kind of an area that she particularly loved,

921
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,000
and there there was a fundraiser to get a memorial

922
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,519
bench for the put up on has To Heath and

923
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:58,800
it was again a solemn moment kind of walking around

924
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,639
there just at a particular point in time. So yeah,

925
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,280
just a moment of acknowledgment as well for Michelle Kerr

926
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,880
and everything she kind of offered to you know, our

927
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,639
little corner of this industry and everyone who who really

928
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,480
knew her. So yes, let us move on to some questions,

929
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:16,559
which this is the last little batch from the ones

930
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:18,599
I had saved up. So next time we come to

931
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:21,519
these in a couple of weeks time, I'll be asking

932
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:24,719
for more, so I start stocking them up. But let's

933
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,559
go through it. Shameless oh Sander asks what is your

934
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,800
favorite musical guest appearance by T and M artists in movies,

935
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,960
slash TV, slash games, New material that plays an actual

936
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,000
part in the media, not just random soundtrack listening. So

937
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:41,559
that is the significant part here, and that is the

938
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:43,119
part that maybe I don't.

939
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: Know, throat comes slightly tricky.

940
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you think, like you know, I I

941
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:49,519
was thinking about the fucking you were talking about that

942
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:51,199
Alan Wake thing or something where like there was a

943
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,800
huge like something actually.

944
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: Like a whole like Swedish metal band doing a whole

945
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,519
original music piece for that interacts with the level of

946
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:00,000
the video game.

947
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what level of like you know, being included

948
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,880
in the media we're talking I basically took this as

949
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,599
at the very least an original song made for like

950
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:11,840
that movie or piece of TV or whatever, not just

951
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,599
an existing song plopped in on the soundtrack. So stuff

952
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,039
that was specifically made for the thing in question. So

953
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:22,239
unfortunately was playing Tormentor in the Dungeon Master.

954
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,199
Speaker 2: I would almost count that as because if they are

955
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,159
an integral part story, you know, I was kind of

956
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,519
looking at this is just not like you know, like

957
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:35,039
when the Salem song got played in the end credit, Yeah, scream,

958
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:36,719
like that was a really cool moment. But I wouldn't

959
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,000
really care it was an existing song. Yeah it's an

960
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:41,239
existing song, or it's just it's just a song being played.

961
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,400
It's not a band appearing as characters in the show,

962
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:46,559
the movie the game like there wasn't. I would almost

963
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:49,880
count because they are characters in the movie doing a

964
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,320
key set piece. So like I guess I could like

965
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,719
it almost cuts, but like I assum by like a

966
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,000
song written specifically for something to like actually enhance it

967
00:46:58,079 --> 00:46:59,960
that that's like one I can see why I like

968
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:00,920
that would count more.

969
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:04,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I said, my I couldn't think of

970
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,960
many which are again so heavily integrated in like a

971
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,679
fucking as you say a plot specific or something.

972
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: Way.

973
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,679
Speaker 1: I did think along the lines of, you know, at

974
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:17,360
the very least original songs written for a movie, and

975
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,280
there you obviously go like, you know, fucking speaking of

976
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,960
the cure, you know, burn from the Crow.

977
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: The best like film soundtracks.

978
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, song ever is unbelievable. I can't remember. Is d

979
00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:30,679
Coode like actually in a Twilight movie or was it

980
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,400
just like it was.

981
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, like it was the end credits song

982
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,360
written for like, yeah, the first Twilight movie in the

983
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,159
same way you know what I've done and New Divide

984
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,519
and or Lincoln Park became the Transformers back.

985
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Decode has got to be in that same

986
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,320
kind of like you know, Krem for the Crem kind

987
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,960
of category in terms of again, So I was thinking

988
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,360
of uh, musical appearances of Again maybe places you might

989
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,440
not expect them or whatever. One that's just in the

990
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,840
last couple of as has always come to mind because

991
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,559
again it's kind of fresh, but it's a really strong

992
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,760
as ARMP I think is Chelsea Wolfe's involvement in the

993
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:12,199
X movies where the original movie X, she uh teamed

994
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,159
up with Tyler Bates to do the score for it,

995
00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:16,719
but the big moment, So you know, she's involved in

996
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,800
like all the ghostly whales and stuff that appear throughout it,

997
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:21,960
which is while I'm on that trailer, just something that

998
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:23,280
popped in my mind is if you ever seen the

999
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,679
Wes Craven movie The Serpent and the Rainbow, No, it's.

1000
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: What I need to watch.

1001
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, here's like eighties voodoo zombie movie, but

1002
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,880
there's a really fucked up, like zombie ghost thing that

1003
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,880
appears in that, and I'm pretty sure it's voiced by

1004
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,320
Diamanda Gallas, which is the most crazy who was like

1005
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,280
the kind of the Linguid Notre of her day. Basically

1006
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,400
it's like the craziest voice that you could apply to

1007
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,480
a weird ghost thing. But you know, Chelsea Wilf involved

1008
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,039
in the sort of the general soundtrack vibe of the

1009
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,440
X movie. But then there's the end credit song, which

1010
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,400
is her version of a like famous folk song called

1011
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,800
Wee Weee Marie uh and then have associated with Yeah,

1012
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,480
and then that song appears is like throughout the kind

1013
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:03,440
of trilogy like it appears in Pearl, but in its

1014
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,360
like original form, but obviously the mirroring of that with

1015
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,440
the Chelsea Wolf version that that's just again my very

1016
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,760
first thought here in terms of like that was a

1017
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,119
really cool like one of our lot appearing in a

1018
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:19,559
way that was like genuinely added something to another piece

1019
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:19,920
of media.

1020
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean, like videos. Know, there was a couple year

1021
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,800
where Avenged Sevenfold became the Call of Duty band. They

1022
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:28,960
like they would do original songs each called game they

1023
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,679
were in the they were like in the game playing

1024
00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:34,159
at points like they were like just the Call of

1025
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,159
Duty band. Yeah, like I do you know the song

1026
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:39,159
they were doing were like not amazing, but you know

1027
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:39,760
in terms.

1028
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:41,119
Speaker 1: Of like more like hard Rocket Ready to Die, it

1029
00:49:41,159 --> 00:49:41,559
was a tune.

1030
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:44,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one that I was really good. Yeah,

1031
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:48,119
like like yeah, they became like the call of Duty band.

1032
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I suppose we should mention the famous Beavis and

1033
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,000
butt Head thing with the white zombie so on, which

1034
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:55,920
I think was I might be right in saying what

1035
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,880
was kind of made four that the whole like tripping

1036
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,400
in the desert part, uh, James Hetfield in the South

1037
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,719
Park movie as Hell.

1038
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: You've Got like you know, Cannibal Corpse in a.

1039
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an appearance playing yeah smashtas, which is

1040
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,360
obviously an existent song.

1041
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,559
Speaker 2: Sema, I couldn't countimmt one in one.

1042
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark would probably pick that Weezer SpongeBob song when

1043
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,880
they did the song we cut.

1044
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: Oh my God, Oh no, the one Weezer recently crap

1045
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:30,000
Netflix Christmas movie that I kind of what it was called,

1046
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,960
that came out last year. Weez are in it, playing

1047
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:33,760
like their own original.

1048
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: Christmas So there's they've done one since we did our

1049
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,079
special running down every stupid thing they ever did.

1050
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 2: Yes, no, they are characters like the dad in this

1051
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,599
movie plays in a band that also happens to be

1052
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:47,559
with the members of Weezer, and they are literally playing

1053
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:49,920
like a weeze vi version. Terrible kind of what it

1054
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,639
was called. It's that bad. It was one of those

1055
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,440
just like ship Netflix Christmas, but weez were in there

1056
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:56,880
playing original Christmas songs.

1057
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was the one that they there was like

1058
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,679
a surf game, like a rhythm game one and they

1059
00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:04,079
did a song for that, and that was a tune

1060
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:06,119
that was that was a pretty decent one. So you

1061
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,679
take your pick from the Wheezer lot. Ben Martin asks

1062
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:13,400
bigger headline discussion, who do you want to see make

1063
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,280
the jump from underground slash side stages to main stage

1064
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,119
undercard slots. Personally, i'd love to see Riot City make

1065
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:20,639
the jump to the big stage. They are a pretty

1066
00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:22,920
good kind of again sort of up and coming trad

1067
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,679
heavy metal band. So basically this is, you know, it's

1068
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,840
a little bit like the age old question that we're

1069
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,360
bored off of who will headline download? But it's not that.

1070
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,880
It's instead what bands are normally buried away on the sides,

1071
00:51:34,199 --> 00:51:35,800
who you at least want to see get put on

1072
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,519
like a main stage.

1073
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: I mean, most of my music tastes.

1074
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think i'd like, you know, because you

1075
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,719
went to Slam Up this year and we were saying

1076
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,119
that a lot of the best bands were on the

1077
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:47,280
side stages, So like, was there any examples like that

1078
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,880
One Step Closer or something like that.

1079
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: They're the one that I think, like I would really

1080
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,880
pick and kind of point to and say they've got up.

1081
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:57,800
There is that whole crop of hardcore, melodic, punk, emo

1082
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,960
kind of bands that are coming up that will really cool, trendy,

1083
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,840
you know playing the main stage outbreak that I want

1084
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,039
to see. Actually, like I would happily go see them

1085
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,440
play that No Barrier Masons outbreak every time. But I

1086
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,880
wouldn't see these bands get their sort of higher up slots.

1087
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,400
I want to see Scowl get put on like a

1088
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,559
better stage at a bigger festival. I was to see

1089
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:17,800
Down but you know, we know how that went. But like,

1090
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,280
like see these bands like like what happened with Turnstile

1091
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,639
when Turntal were actually starting to be put onto bigger

1092
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:27,199
platforms that like not loose at download. I mean, I

1093
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,880
know they've done it a Blood, but I think not

1094
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,440
loose need to you know, absolutely be on that download

1095
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,559
main stage at this point. I think it's crazy they

1096
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:38,639
haven't been put there already, not not a download like

1097
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,840
I think they've done the Mansions of Blood like stuff

1098
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,039
like that. That's what I want to see.

1099
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: I was thinking.

1100
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:43,119
Speaker 2: Again.

1101
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: My immediate thoughts were again on those kind of headingtle

1102
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,599
lines of like maybe again because I saw went to

1103
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:50,400
Bloodshot this year and I saw Eternal Champion on the

1104
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,000
second stage.

1105
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,039
Speaker 2: That was what I was thinking. When you Yeah, I

1106
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:53,519
was like.

1107
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: It was cool in there, but I was like, man,

1108
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,559
this in my world, this is what would be Front

1109
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:02,599
and set Em and Summer LANs, who are such all

1110
00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:04,800
of that. In summer Lands their last album are like

1111
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,239
incredible sort of you know, death leopardy pop metal songs

1112
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:11,960
that is pure main stage fodder in my mind, even

1113
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,760
like a band like Sonya I think could kind of

1114
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,639
rise to that level. Spirit Adrift start again. On the

1115
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:19,800
death metal side. I think a band who I'd like

1116
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,840
to see follow in that kind of gate creeper route whatever,

1117
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,840
someone like Frozen Soul, I'd like to see that, Like

1118
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,360
I'm death Yeah, I think it.

1119
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: I'd love to see those sort bands or get Frozen.

1120
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: I saw they played the second stage of bluz Stock

1121
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,360
here and I can imagine they'm doing really well on

1122
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,320
the outdoor. And again this is I don't know if

1123
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,000
this is maybe an outdated one or whatever, but one

1124
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,280
of my first fucking thoughts was Baroness Hot Take, stop

1125
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,480
fucking hiding them away every time they appear or a

1126
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,800
big festival there seemingly or like a fourth stage somewhere,

1127
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,039
and it's like, fucking come on, it's Baroness, for christ,

1128
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,480
They've played their dudes.

1129
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that that's a great shout.

1130
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Malcolm Fox asks, what do you think about

1131
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,639
touring packages joining festival lineups? Is it worth pulling a

1132
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:02,360
touring line up into an established festival when they happen

1133
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,639
to overlap. So this is a proper sort of you know,

1134
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,199
nitty gritty of like again booking of festivals and how

1135
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:11,760
they work type question. But I guess you know, as

1136
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,159
a punter, you know, maybe can go to two promoters

1137
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:17,679
one pod to see what they think about the logistics

1138
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:19,679
of how they go about this. But as a punter

1139
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,440
going to festivals, what do you think about kind of

1140
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,840
like does it annoy you in terms of I could

1141
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,360
see this else where? Does it appeal to you and

1142
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,159
like oh cool that tour is coming through X festival.

1143
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: I mean it's something where I would like there are

1144
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,840
some things where I'm like, I know, if a tour

1145
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,880
package had been London a festival, then those bands are

1146
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,920
all none of Like a lot of those bands, like

1147
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,000
the headlines, they're going to be playing probably further down

1148
00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:41,679
and not headlining, so they're going to be doing a

1149
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:43,960
short set, which is a shame. I always look at

1150
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,000
it kind of go like but to be honest, like, logistically,

1151
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:49,039
if they're going to be playing a tour at the

1152
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:50,960
same time as a festival's going on, it's probably like

1153
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:54,960
risking hit like their attendance to their own show. So

1154
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000
I get why practically for bands it might be better.

1155
00:54:57,639 --> 00:54:59,880
I don't mind it too much. It depends on, like

1156
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:04,239
knowing driving a recent right there was like, oh, well

1157
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,880
I went to and I was like I saw a

1158
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,599
thing on the festival and I saw the headline set

1159
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:09,400
that that band to play the festival did the next day,

1160
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,480
and I was like, fuck me, I missed out kind

1161
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:13,960
of that that's one was a bit of a kick.

1162
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: But I getting, Yeah, maybe there's certain times when, as

1163
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,320
you're saying, if the band you really want to see

1164
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:21,480
end up getting punted lower, maybe you've got to try

1165
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,519
and travel elsewhere to see like the full set. As

1166
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:26,599
you're saying, yeah, I tend to not really think about

1167
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:27,760
it very much because I think it's just one of

1168
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,000
those sort of realities of how things work currently, because

1169
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,039
like that's generally how I go about it. Yeah, Because

1170
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,000
I mean, especially if it's an international thing, right of

1171
00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:36,079
like you know, a band are coming over from America

1172
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,719
or you know a distant part of Europe or Japan

1173
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,800
or whatever they might be, is it you know, what's

1174
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,000
more What matters to me is getting that band over

1175
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:47,800
here and having them like succeed on it, and it

1176
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,159
being affordable for them to do. What is easier for

1177
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:54,960
that band to do. Is it easier for them to

1178
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,079
come and do just one exclusive show and then disappear again,

1179
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,840
or is it easier for them to build a tour

1180
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,000
around it? And if the answer is the latter, you know,

1181
00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:05,480
I think it's a case by case thing of what

1182
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:07,440
might be easier. But like, if the answer is the

1183
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,719
latter and that is what gets them over here, I

1184
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,360
don't mind at all, you know, because it gets them

1185
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,119
over here and I get to see it, and they

1186
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:15,159
get to, you know, do an actual tour and function

1187
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:18,079
as a band and whatever. And in terms of pulling

1188
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:20,000
up the whole package in you know, sometimes you just

1189
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,920
get some kind of useless undercard bands and that's fine

1190
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,239
because you don't have to watch them, and sometimes you

1191
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,440
get some cool things out of it. I mean, you know,

1192
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:31,519
I remember Damnation two years ago, there was a Decapitated

1193
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:33,960
tour package that came through and it got added on.

1194
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:36,840
Damnation and Decapsity were touring with some death core bands

1195
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,400
who otherwise might not have played Damnation, and as a result,

1196
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,960
I got to see Despised ikon Damnation.

1197
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if that.

1198
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: Would have happened otherwise and that was really fun cool.

1199
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,800
Like I didn't watch all them, I didn't watch OCA

1200
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,679
and whatever, but like I got to despised Ico at

1201
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,400
Damnation and that was as a result of that tour

1202
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,079
package being lumped on, and that was just fine.

1203
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:56,119
Speaker 2: I think you've had a similar thing with Damnation this

1204
00:56:56,199 --> 00:56:59,559
year with the gate creeper two hundred stab wounds and forced.

1205
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, they build what works around it, so yeah, I

1206
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,000
don't mind. As someone who is not talking from the

1207
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,599
booking side of things here, I'm talking from like the

1208
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:14,559
the value for money punter thing. Ultimately, what you want

1209
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:15,880
to do is you want to be able to see

1210
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,000
bands come over from other areas of the world, which

1211
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:22,960
is not super fucking easy to do all the time.

1212
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:25,800
And if that's what helps that happen, then sure, fine,

1213
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,719
go ahead. Right Patreon dot com slash That's no Metal

1214
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,199
is where we do all of our huge stuff. You

1215
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:33,280
should know that by it now. And the latest thing

1216
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,800
we have up on there was I pretty well received,

1217
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,760
which was nice to see. T does horror that we

1218
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,000
did on the Alien Movies where we spoke about. Of course,

1219
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,239
the new Alien romulus, as we mentioned last week, is

1220
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,280
kind of you know, an interesting kind of hot potato

1221
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:51,760
topic at times. But the Alien and Aliens discussions two

1222
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,760
of the biggest greatest movies ever. We went all in

1223
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,679
deep on those over several hours. If you are Alien

1224
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,679
obsessive an Alien fan, I really hope that you enjoy

1225
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,320
the conversation that we had about them, because it was

1226
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,639
really really engaging and fun to do. Tomorrow, I'm going

1227
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:13,400
to the Substance so when it comes out, which I

1228
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,800
believe will be you know, on the cars to do

1229
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,920
at some point, and otherwise we will have more coming

1230
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,320
to you over there very very soon, indeed, as we

1231
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,239
head into Octobers. But the last thing we've got to

1232
00:58:24,239 --> 00:58:25,760
do today is of course, like you know, what's coming

1233
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,800
out today on the twentieth of September, and we have

1234
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,360
some pretty cool releases coming out today. We are going

1235
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,719
to start off with I guess you know. The giant

1236
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:36,320
band in the bunch is the return of night Wish

1237
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,599
and their album Yes to Wind. You should know by

1238
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:40,519
now if Nightwish are you know, if your thing or not,

1239
00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:42,719
but if they are, you know, they are legends in

1240
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:46,079
that in that field, so that'll be interested one to

1241
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:48,400
check out. There is also the new album from unto others,

1242
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,239
which is called never never Land of course one of

1243
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,320
the most beloved over here TNM you know, up and

1244
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,719
comer type bands. So that is out Vended, the you know,

1245
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,280
the the slutnoton epos they are. They've got their new

1246
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,880
album called Vended out today. I think that's their debut

1247
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,760
for like the album. I guess we should check in

1248
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,880
and like, you know, really yeah, check what's actually really

1249
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,679
going on with that record and not be as flippant

1250
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:14,239
as as it just was. That's just how we've all

1251
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,199
known them up to this point. It's time to make

1252
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:16,599
a decision.

1253
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1254
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,719
Speaker 1: Vended is out. Crimson Veil kind of sort of alt

1255
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,000
metal type thing. They are called Hex Charlotte Vessels that

1256
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:28,199
is basically the ex singer of Delanne who Delayne kind

1257
00:59:28,199 --> 00:59:31,119
of like imploded into like various forms not long ago,

1258
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:33,920
but you know, the singer on most of Delaye albums.

1259
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,760
You know, has a solo album called The Obsession and

1260
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,679
much like night where you probably know if Delana for

1261
00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:40,599
you or not, so you can follow in that regard

1262
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:45,599
switching over to heavier hardcore type stuff. Kupli Khan t X.

1263
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,960
I've got a record called exhibition of prowess. I've never

1264
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:51,519
like gone for Koop Bli Klan. Are you interested?

1265
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: I think they're fine. I think they've got a couple

1266
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,840
of bangers. They seem to be one of those bands

1267
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,719
people have to have an opinion, and I'm just like,

1268
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,239
they're they're not. They've never seemed so good or so

1269
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,880
bad in that scene to really like form a strong opinion. Otherwise,

1270
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,440
I was like, you know, that song's pretty hard, that

1271
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,800
one pretty forgettable.

1272
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: They're on the Bluzz bill next year, aren't they? So

1273
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,880
maybe worth checking in on it in that regard, if

1274
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,400
that's where you're gonna be headed. Also in hardcore, Regional

1275
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,239
Justice Center back with Freedom, Sweet Freedom, which will be

1276
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,679
like thirteen minutes long or something. We spoke about this

1277
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:29,079
BANDI fairly recently, a grow fast, fast hardcore moving over,

1278
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:31,800
you know, back to the UK and Church Road Records

1279
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,360
for some slightly mathy whatever kind of techi type there.

1280
01:00:34,679 --> 01:00:37,920
Giant Walker got a recorded Silhouettes in your sort of

1281
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,480
you know, riffy doom area. You have a Luna with

1282
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:43,599
Fever dream. There's a band called demon Head with a

1283
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:46,440
record called Through Hole, Shine the Stars, which is a

1284
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,519
great name checked out a bit of this and it

1285
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,760
really sounds like in solitudes, just like proper you know

1286
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,039
that kind of style. Goffy metal dungeon crawl for a

1287
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:58,519
record called Maze Controller, which is Who's controlling the maze?

1288
01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:00,440
You know, I want to who controlling the maze? But

1289
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,960
that is shockingly dungeony kind of you know, metal type stuff.

1290
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,840
Then we have moving into you know, further into the

1291
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,800
underground glacial Tomb, Lightless Expanse for your kind of sort

1292
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,719
of techie death metal, for less techie death metal, more

1293
01:01:14,719 --> 01:01:17,960
stinky death metals. And I called Coffin Rott, who I

1294
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,719
believe her on Maggot Stump, which the record is called

1295
01:01:20,719 --> 01:01:22,880
The Dreams of the Disturbed, And we slipped over to

1296
01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:26,079
black metal. Canon and Fever have got a record called

1297
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:33,599
De Katastrophe d Catastrophe. Yeah that's probably a really simple sentence,

1298
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:36,559
but just the German pronunciation threw me there. Conona Fever

1299
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,239
have become one of the most popular kind of current

1300
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,480
bands in black metal, Like they were you one of these.

1301
01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:45,480
You will see their merch at a lot of black

1302
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,800
metal shows, so they clearly a band who are kind

1303
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,320
of on the up in that regard. Norwegian black metal

1304
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,440
Mark have got Scyth a record that I am interested

1305
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:55,960
to check out and really see what it sounds like.

1306
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,119
A record from a called Dreamless Veil called Every Limb

1307
01:01:59,159 --> 01:02:01,239
of the Flood, which kind of a bit of an

1308
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,239
underground supergroup. It features members of inter Armor and Artificial

1309
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,239
Brain against bands for the tech death world but also

1310
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,920
kind of the black metal world as well. Mix of

1311
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,119
stuff going on there. Very prolific, freaky, strange underground project

1312
01:02:14,159 --> 01:02:16,920
over the years, sup Trillium, They've got a record called

1313
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,280
Doff Dennyel and finally again in that underground the darkest

1314
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,800
of black old corners, Deathless Void, the voluptuous fire of Sin,

1315
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,559
very sourcy. That is what we have for you today.

1316
01:02:29,239 --> 01:02:31,239
So go and you know, fire at Will check out.

1317
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:34,000
What do you want? Sam? You are off to Japan,

1318
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:35,239
So you are not going to be on the show

1319
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:35,679
for a couple of.

1320
01:02:35,679 --> 01:02:39,599
Speaker 2: Weeks, Yeah, two weeks. I'm away, you know, going to

1321
01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:42,400
a ark in Japan, which will be an interesting kind

1322
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:47,119
of like Japanese. There's three three free Japanese openers on there,

1323
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:49,480
so like that's something I'm actually really interest checking out,

1324
01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:51,639
a sort of seeing like the three sort of Japanese

1325
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:53,199
one of those bands I've listened to. They're called Blow

1326
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:55,639
your Brains Out, and they are hard as fuck, really cool.

1327
01:02:56,239 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: That's very very cool indeed. So yeah, so you know,

1328
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,880
you can tell us all about that when you arrive

1329
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:01,960
in you know, a couple of weeks time. Next week.

1330
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:04,880
Myself and Elliott though, will of course have reviews to

1331
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,920
talk about. We're obviously gonna talk about that Night Wish album,

1332
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,920
that unto others album, a whole bunch of other stuff

1333
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,079
that's coming out over September that is worth, you know,

1334
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:14,360
ask discussing. I don't think it's going to be a

1335
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,360
Friday show next week. I think it's going to be

1336
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,719
kind of early the following week. But you know, rest

1337
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,039
assured that is coming the big September reviews bag, and that,

1338
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:24,119
as said, will be what is next from us. So

1339
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,480
we will see you there and hope you tune in.

1340
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:28,320
Bye bye