Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to That's not Mettal, your weekly
rock and heavy metal, hardcore punk podcast, and welcome back
to another edition of Hyperblast, where we let you know
everything that's been going on in the week in news
in those respective heavy music worlds over the past seven
days or so. Last week we said something on the
lines of, you know, last week was a big one,
and we were like, yeah, God help us, please nothing
crazy and requiring of a you know, great amount of
exhaustive discord or whatever. Please nothing happen next week. We
sort of did and didn't get.
Speaker 2: There's a few you know, like there's nothing that actually
know quite like we have to debate the ethics of
cult psychology and brainwashing and all that shit, and then
you kind of go, oh, yeah, but you know, there's
these other things that I've gone on that are just
like there.
Speaker 1: Are I feel like it's what would, in an isolated
kind of time, be quite a big week, but off
the back of what we've just gone through, it seems
cut of small stakes. But there is some stuff to
be talking about, and we're going to do just that.
My name is Parenhish. The voice you can hear opposite
me there in sad dignoon and we are going to
do all of that. Just as said I did mention
last week that you know, it's been a really bloody
I can't believe I've basically had like three kind of
quote festivals in like the last like month basically, so
I feel like I have to kind of fire through
them a little bit. But I was again offer another
big weekend of live music this past week where I
went to London for Cosmic Void Festival, which is a
big black metal event that goes on in the heart
of Camden, and it was kind of it turned into
sort of an extended week because there were a couple
of other things that you know, I stuck around in
town to go to as well. So you know, last
week I was talking about No Play Festival. So if
that kind of maybe gave you a few tips on
some kind of like smaller up and coming hardcore bands
or whatever, We're gonna hopefully do you know, something of
the same thing here and give you some pointers, but
more in the said black metal realm. Because we've aoid
has been going for a few years. This is my
first time going. I've like really wanted to go with
the other ones and this one was where I like
pulled the trigger on it. Strangely, I went to you
may remember I went to a festical Celestial Darkness.
Speaker 2: I was about to say I've saying.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, it's the same promotion company and
it happens in basically the same like venues and spaces,
so very bizarrely, I kind of felt like I'd done
the same festival twice in six months as opposed to
a year apart, you know, like going to the same venues,
seeing the same kind of bands, like they're wh is
Cosmic Void is the more specifically black metal themed one,
whereas Celestial Darkness was a little bit more kind of
like eclectic, like the head Goblin play and they had
some kind of more gothy stuff whatever. And bizarrely I
look at those and I think the Celestial Darkness bill
should be more kind of like, I don't know, wide appealing,
but the just super like cult black metal one is
kind of more established and sold a lot better, So
you know they're considering again we're talking about a black
metal festival does not book the likes of Mayhem and
DeBie Borgear or whatever like massive names to be its headliners.
It's actually doing really wet well for itself, and I
got to see, you know, a bunch of kind of
cool exclusives. You know, some of the only times you're
going to see some of these bands in the UK basically,
which is why I made it down there. And I
guess you know some of the highlights Friday, the headlining
band was Arcturus, who I'd never seen before, and Sam,
you've you've heard an art tourist album because of the
episode of a couple of years with Serena from Svalba.
Do you remember do you have any memories of that?
Speaker 2: Remember not being a fan and it being silly circus
music with black mal bits and just being like, what
is going on?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 2: It was the one album for that special that I
remember going by, like, yeah, that that one was just.
Speaker 1: Like I remember it being essentially more appealing than the
Dodheims Guard record that it got.
Speaker 2: Actually, yes, no, that that special Man and Glory Hammer
like all on that special. That was a brutal one.
I'm just saying, I love remains Resource, but that was brutal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Butchers, I've never seen artists And again that the
artist record that you've heard is like one of their
most coherent ones. I was listening to this again. I've
been spending some time with some of their other records recently,
and they are they go much further off the rails
and live. It was fucking like batchit like full on,
part steampunk circus where they or like goggles and ship
like that, and part like fucking space opera going on
behind them. The front man these days is ICs Vortex,
who used to be in Debi Borgia for a long
time and his voice is incredible, but also his presence
as a front man again being some kind of like
weird steampunk wizard just chatting shit to the crowd was
again wailing on like circus music, and there's a lot
going on. I really enjoyed seeing it really really cool
and to witness there. And that's the kind of, you know,
the level of bands that we're talking about as being
like the huge draws at this kind of festive.
Speaker 2: Established names but like kind of still kind of cult and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cult but also legendary in their field and bands
that like you won't get a lot of chances to
see and you want to seek them out and that
kind of you know, exclusivity vibe really kind of you know,
goes across a lot of this, because the next day
I saw a band called mess Ar fim Methar tim
Wo are a like a cosmic proper spacey black metal
band who have been going for like ten years at least,
but this was their worldwide live debut. They'd never played
a live show before and fitting the you know, cosmic
galactic vibe, the singer it was a bit for it
gave me some sleep token vibes, even though obviously no
one in the area would have recognized that apart from myself,
but because basically he was like a masked guy, but
on his like mask he had like an led light
show or basically forming like a milky way like a
swirling galaxy, where his face was so like really committed
to the galactic bit. And they again it was like
super spacey, atmospheric black metal, but also with like legit
trance bits, just like just full on devia into like
full on trance beats and stuff. And that was the
only time that happened a weekend, so that was like,
you know, cool, uh and interesting. So Shamash, who are
a band I really really love one of my kind
of favorite you know, sort of the last ten years
or so of black metal bands, and they were absolutely excellent.
They looked like they'd rob the VNA Museum coming over
because they were wearing like extremely elaborate, like you know,
Victorian carpet looking garb and stuff like that. Mortuary Drape
again can stay on like the Robe kick a lot
of robes at this festival, but Mortuary Drape are like
a really old school like one of those bands are
sort of like they're somewhere on the transition between like
first wave and second wave black metal, like kind of
in the late eighties somewhere, but like Italian really strange,
occult sound like they've been dug out of a grave,
kind of first wave style black metal band, but all
in you know, like spooky robes and with altars and
stuff like that. And that was cool to see and
some male were the headliner for the next day. Who
are again really so many unique bands, so many bands
coming out of that time in black metal who went
and had the weirdest careers that no one else could
quite parallel. Whether it's you know, from Emperor, the del
Heines Guard or whatever and Samle or one of those
who started off basically being like a kind of filthier, dingier,
more second wave black metal takeer on like Celtic Frost,
but then later in their career just turned into an
industrial band and like only their first like three records
or so are particularly relevant to black metal, and then
More than Stuff is just like legit industrial metal. But
they were playing the thirtieth anniversary of their record Ceremony
of Opposites, which is the record I love, and it's
like kind of on a meeting point where it's like
really groovy four to four kind of like almost ac
DC or Ramstein style, like that kind of when do you
think about that beat?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: That kind of like very simple, elemental, primal four four
kind of beat, which you don't associate with black metal. Really,
it's kind of an interesting thing that they do. They
take that spin on it, but with like cool keyboard
and stuff. That's a record I should show you at
some points that because it's a really interesting sounding record.
And yeah, and they also they hit they're a drum
machine band. They don't have a live drummer, and it
was a real departure from most of it seeing a
band who don't have a big drum kit at the
back but instead of keyboardist who is leaping around like
a little leap frog. And I was like, sir, please,
this isn't very black metal of you, Like you've got
to stop hopping around at the back like Toad but.
Speaker 2: Cross Faith, you know, they're like jumping around all the time.
Speaker 1: I know it is proper a little late leapfrog wu
kind of stuff. And then the next day the last
like three bands on the Sunday were some of the
big big draws where meant them a couple of times.
DoD Heins Guard indeed did play, and do hims Guard
I'd never seen before again like many of the bands.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the land of them, I'm trying
to spot the band as like, yeah, there's Dodheims Guard,
I can see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and do hems Guard again were one of the
big draws for me. I have not had an opportunity
to see them in the UK, you know, prior to
to this, to my memory, and Don hims Guard was
fucking mental for a start. They didn't play anything released
after six six to six International, which was really like unexpected,
like and you know, like Supervillain, Outcast, Black Medium Current,
those are the best records in my mind, and they
didn't touch them. They they came out and they did
initially like for the first like half the two thirds
are set like the pre it's international basically the old
school black metal stuff.
Speaker 2: Is that when they were like pure black metals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they kind of the in the night soun
transition slowly into kind of what you kind of I
guess you sam know them as. But they came out
and they played like loads of like fucking old school
nineties black metal stuff, and some of it is like
kind of like thrashy, and I was like, was not expecting.
I was wasn't primed to have that as my Dog
Times Guard live experience. But it was so intense because
that guy, considering he wasn't even the front man for
like a good period of the band's like lifetime, they've
had a few different singers, he was going fucking mental.
He was so much more rowdy and animated than any
other like singer in the whole.
Speaker 2: I would not expect that given the last God Times Guard.
Speaker 1: Out, I know, he was going fucking ape shit to
the point that like again he looks like he's got
this really cool quarts pank where he looks at some
kind of weird like you know, gremlin, goblin, wizard, whatever.
But he was like rolling around on the stage. At
one point he just like he was like on his
knees and he did like a gladiator style like thumbs
down and then did a backwards rollie polly away, and
he had like I don't know whether it was like
smoke or like dust or powder or something, but basically
he kept like producing this substance that he was throwing
in the faces of his bandmates. So he'd be walking
around and then he go like a wizard and a
huge puff of smoke would come out of his hand
into the face of like the bassist or something. At
one point he went and got the keyboard. This didn't
like a headlock. And my favorite bit was one of
the stage hands in the Electric Ballroom had to take
a mic stand off him because he was just slamming
it into the stage like between his legs while screaming
like just full on animal, fucking completely ape shit.
Speaker 2: That sounds that we weren't far for Jane's addiction situation
now almost, But he's really lovely.
Speaker 1: I've spoken to him and he's a really nice, like
cool guy, but I get the impression that everything is
just like extremely animated, all the emotions.
Speaker 2: When he's on stage in the moment and just going
for everything. That sounds quite cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you don't really see a black metal
show so much like the singers like getting in the
crowd like a hardcore singer would. But he was like,
you know, jumping up on the barrier and stuff and
going fucking mental. And then towards like the very end
of the set, they did play a couple of like
six at six international songs, which meant that you'd gone
from this kind of black thrash type thing to by
the end of the set being assaulted by like crazy
electronics and drummer base beats and stuff. It was batshit.
The best set at the festival definitely in terms of
like a fucking assault on the senses. And they didn't
even play like I said, for me, like the best
time cud stuff. But it was so wild. I want
to see them again and again see different material. But
I feel like that the Dodheins who had live experience
of like it being like a lot I definitely had
served up to me and that was wicked. And then
was Treldom, which I mentioned last week, is a band
that gal is in Ghal of many you know Norwegian
black metal projects over the years. I nearly went drinking
with Gahal afterwards through like thrends of thrends, and he
didn't come out of his hotel, which is anually guted
about because I was like, oh, going drink kid without
a bit of story exactly a man specifically famous for
having a drink in a certain way in a certain movie.
But yeah, but that didn't happen. But Treldham is about
again like one of his older projects who he's kind
of revived with a new record. But the new record
is like weird as fuck. It's like proper trippy, like
it gives me like a rancy pazuzu vibes, like it's
really like which was again very different trendy thing off
the bill because it was like slow but psychedelic and
really trippy and really spacey and kind of shamanic. And
I was with a mate of mine who like does
not really do anything kind of esoteric, and he like
gave me the remaining half of his beer to leave
a couple of songs and things like I can't do
this I was fair a sixophonist. I really liked it. It
was really really cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, now I know where you're saying, I won't like
this album.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that was really really cool to see. And
the Sunday Headliner was another of the bands that had
like really drawn me to it, which is Tormentor, which
is again the first wave black metal band, the band
that basically a Tillo Chih who is the Mayhem singer.
Basically they recruited him from Tormentor when they needed a singer,
so he was in this Hungarian black metal band and
then went up to Your Way to join them. But
Tormentor again released some like really really fucking cult material
in like the late eighties and early nineties, but only recently.
I think it was like twenty twenty ish, like during
COVID they like got back together and have started like
playing shows and stuff again and again. It was like
UK debut, the first time Tormentor I've ever played in
the UK because the first time they were a band,
they were behind the iron curtain, you know, and like
at Tillochi Har I think is probably the greatest black
metal singer of all time, and seeing him do this
like really old school thing, and it was all theatrics,
and you know, a man of famed outfits over the years.
If you've never seen the pictures from like the mid
two thousands Mayhem shows when he stressed up as like
a rotten easter bunny, you should definitely go and check
those out. But Tormentor, he came out wearing like a
burlap sack with like a hunchback on it, and he
had like some kind of like like whip flogging thing
and he was just flogging himself over the shoulders like
a like a medieval monk. But then during like the
guitar solos and stuff, he'd go over and be flogging
there instead. And he had like a skull that he
always has a skull that he throats things into to
get a certain like resonance out of it, like a
weird echoe effect. But it was really the thing I
wasn't expecting was he came out and he started dribbling
milk onto it. He looked like like an android trom
alien considering our recent chats, like he just suddenly started
like producing this white liquid all over this fucking skull
that he then again proceeded to throat sing into Uh.
It was a lot. It was a hell of a spectacle,
and they were playing so like shitterly in a good way.
He's really really like nasty fucking ramshackle. I couldn't quite
make it sound good with ear plugs in because I
think it was just meant to sound like just like
a kind of cacophony, but some really iconic songs from
that again early tormented period and stuff as well. They
played maybe the most low IQ riff I've ever heard
in a live setting, where they just went dun dun dun,
mostly out of time with each other for about.
Speaker 2: Excellent for about two minutes.
Speaker 1: It was so stupid, but they were wicked and yeah,
big fucking crazy, far flung stuff from all over the world,
cool black metal vibes uh. And the reason I get
hung around and part of what really kind of sold
me on on on this weekend is the following day
was the final UK show of Kirathungul, who are a
band who I don't think we've ever covered specifically on
the show. We should certainly change that at some point,
but they are one of the oldest heavy metal bands
to also not be mega big like I think they're
they're like, you know, like Judas Priest generation old, Like
if you look at when they form, they're like, you know,
really geez. But they other than you know, apart from
like you know, Judus Priest and I made and kind
of appealed to big crowd that had a mainstream setibility.
Kireth Un Goal too weird and very odd ball and
very like the kind of again slightly off the beaten
track eccentric heavy metal that we talk about from Smolder
or you know, Crypt Serban or whatever. Like there's a
major kurrethung gol Dna in there. Particularly. Their singer has
one of the craziest squawkiest how are you doing this
heavy metal voices to ever do it? And he still
sounds like that, And but it meant that you had
like a really they were playing you know, a full Underworld.
It was fucking sweaty in there was so one of
those like warm full Underworld shows.
Speaker 2: Dripping off the ceiling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you know, a bunch of likes again
really dedicated like cult epic heavy metalers coming out to
see the.
Speaker 2: Heavy middle Mania accent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're another band who they made. They only
have like six albums because they made like four albums
their original run, then broke up and then reunited very
recently made two more also good albums, and then are
splitting up again and being like right, so that's it.
So they have a pretty flawless track record. I've not
been around for you know, in terms of their total
amount of years that long. But it was really cool
to you know, get to go and see them. And
it was a really good heavy metal bill as well,
because Heavy Sentence were the opener, who are a Manchester
band who are pretty well established here but they're like
getting really I think they're again in that kind of
dedicated heavy metal scene. I think they're quite popular these
days and they're on the up, which is cool to
see because they're really good. I'd say Heavy Sentence are
for fans of like Paul Deano erat Iron Maiden and
the best Saxon albums. Like it's new way of British
heavy metal, but like it's kind of dirty and kind
of like workmen like and a bit of punk in there.
And they were fucking really really good. I've seen them
a few times and again they're really great show, but
it was nice see them again opening band get a
really strong reception and like people like flying around and
stuff like that. And then Night Demon were the main support,
which I think is in because one of the most
aptly named this person could only ever do heavy metal
people named ever, it's the Jarvis Leatherby. Night Demon I
think was quite instrumental in getting Kithung Goal back together
because he plays bass of them now and stuff as well.
But his band Night Demon were main support. And I
think you know, a lot of you guys listening probably
no Night Demon there another like the highlights of the
current you know, kind of heavy metal scene. And again
they've got a really great response, really like proper showmanship,
a great set of bangers, really fun. And then Kirathung
Goal again strange bands, strange vibes, not like a normal
I don't know, like it can be an arms in
the air sing a long thing, but it's always with
this slight air of kind of oddness to it, as
opposed to just like a very basic, you know, iron
made and put your arms in the air whatever thing.
And because of the way the guy sings, you just
have a room full of people going come on and
ride the black machine. All this like crazy bizarre hooks
and stuff incredible like aviators indoors look really really again,
I said to myself, I was like, I'll go and
see the careth On Goal Show if it comes to
the UK. I think it's the only second time they
ever played the UK. So I feel quite grateful that
we actually did get a stop on the kind of
farewell toalk because you know, not every bad in their
smaller position might might do that, but I did. And
so that was the kind of the close to that
little little jaunt there. So as we go into the news,
and you know, this isn't even including you said earlier
Sam to us as someone else having done Dave Groll,
which I just couldn't believe another one in ins many
weeks immediately following on for that and again not going
to specifically call it out too much or anything, but
but I do want to say the sentence of he
was celebrating other women and their stories on tour was
that were put in our group chat earlier is one
of the funniest things I've maybe ever read. But let's
move into the proper news, and I guess we'll start
with the kind of good, exciting bit of news, which
is that Iron Maiden have announced another tour. I knew
that obviously this would be coming eventually, but it does
feel very soon that, like, you know, it was only
like three months ago or something that the you know,
the Future Past tour came through the UK. But Iron
Maiden have announced for twenty twenty five the Run for
Your Lives fiftieth Anniversary tour. Nineteen seventy five is when
Iron Maiden actually formed, even though didn't release an album
like five years, but that is the fiftieth anniversary tour
coming next year. It is going to be coming through
the UK and Europe between May and August. The UK
dates are in late June. Support comes from the raven
Age and Hailstorm, but only in the UK on I
think the London. Yeah, in the UK London and also
of UK and Ireland Dublin dates, and of.
Speaker 2: Course the raven Ager is supporting. Who asked would like I.
Speaker 1: Know, I like, I don't care about Hailstorm. I don't
like them, I never have. I think they're a boring band.
And yet I was disappointed that Hailstorm were not on
the date. That is, you know, I'm going to be
aiming to go to because at least it's a band
of like some stature, like a band who in some
sense of the word means something rather than the raven age. Again,
a band who I don't know if they've ever supported
any other band.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they play shows outside of supporting
Iron Maiden.
Speaker 1: Honestly at this no, But you know, I think we again,
we all knew exactly what would be going on with
this in terms of when I mainly came around again,
they've just done even I. It was, you know, combined
with somewhere in time, it was the new album tour
for Send You To, so obviously the next one would
be a kind of great it's hip classic thing. Yes,
and so a fiftieth anniversary setlist, and it says on
the poster from Iron Maiden to Fear of the Dark.
So basically the original Bruce Dickinson tenure of the band
is the where the set list is being drawn from.
And again I've seen I Am Maiden twice. Both of
them have been on like the new album tours, and
I've had to miss the kind of legacy ones. So
this is basically exactly the tour that I personally was
waiting for.
Speaker 2: This is such a dilemma for me because I've never
seen Iron Maiden. I made on this tour. Doing this
set list essentially the perfect time for me to see
Iron Maiden. The London date, though, I guess was going
to bloody clashing with outbreakinga Outbreak like my like my
festivals ort of like Holy Ground at this point, clashing
with like Iron Maiden, and I'm just like, yeah, I
might look at doing Manster or something. I need to
mean way to get to get away because of other
big things going on my life on them, but I'm
kind of going to.
Speaker 1: Weigh up, Yeah, it looks like you might have to
swing Manchester or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or I might have to give Outbreak a pass
this year because I do really want to see Maiden
at some point. I don't think that probably not Like
if out Break decided to not book an amazing gunap
and there's still tickets left for this in London, I'll yeah.
Speaker 1: But the fact that it's called the Run for Your
Lives Tour that obviously means you know, runs the Hills
very much in the set list, a song that, again
on the two Iron Main tours I have been to,
they have not played.
Speaker 2: It's so absurd that like that Iron Made and can
happily just not play vantage.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen how you with Our Name either.
Those were the two songs that were like big ones
that they just dropped out of the set on both occasions.
So again I've got to see this stuff. Very exciting
to see see that come around. And again, you don't
know that kind of back and forth we spoke about
of you know, new album tour and then a legacy
tour whatever, Like how many of those switches do Iron
Made and still have in them? You know? Like, yeah,
I don't necessarily think the send will end up being
the final Iron Made and album. It could be, but
they might have another one in them, you don't know.
But again that back and forth switching of new to legacy,
new to legacy, how many.
Speaker 2: When a band is sill having fifty years, it's like
a long time anymore, Like that's a long time to
be a band, Like how much longer have you got in?
Like like hopefully that like this running twenty twenty six,
So even if you know, I don't make it to
the tour this year, maybe if it swings around, going
to download next Shaw some in twenty twenty six, like
who knows? But yeah, this is this feels like a
real like a moment to go see Iron main, especially
with them doing a massive stadium show in London, like
doing the London Stadium. That's that's big.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah I didn't. I didn't actually twig that.
Speaker 2: Was all Yeah, arenas arena's everywhere else and then London
they are They're going all out massive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Manchester Arena is like the new big one,
but they've opened up, so I think they're you know,
they're aimen kind of large across the board. And the
other interesting detail that springs up to me is something
that again the TNM discord was kind of picking up
on a little bit, is if it says, you know,
from the nineteen eighty cell titled Iron Made album through
to Fear of the Dark, which is obviously you know,
the initial classic Bruce Dickinson era, but that does include,
in my opinion, what is probably the weakest Dying Maiden album,
which is No Prayer for the Dying, And if they're
going to include, like you know, at least a song
from every one of those albums, there are some songs
from the Prayer and the Dying which would be like
interesting to see, you know, that's not an album they
tend to draw anything from really, and it's like, does
this mean bring your Daughter to the Slaughter is coming
back to the set list? Are they?
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good song as.
Speaker 1: A banger, but like, you know, the Fames thing with
that track was that was originally meant to be a
Bruce Dickers and solo track, Yeah, and then got kind
of ported over. So I don't know how the rest
of the band feel about it. I don't know, but like
you know, Tail Gunner, Mother Russia, I don't know what,
but yeah, interesting set list, kind of potentials. Nonetheless, even
with it being a kind of you know, straightforward classics
focused tour, but that is very very exciting news. Indeed,
the kind of oh god, what's going on here news
that we maybe allude to it at the very beginning
is something that again it is big, yet in contrast
to last week, feels like again falling slightly by the wayside.
But it was also like, I I wish I could
just laugh at Jane's addiction punching each other on stage,
but we can't even laugh at this stuff anymore because
there's a whole thing going on with essentially you know,
it being the seemingly the effects of something of a
kind of you know, uh, a bit of a breakdown basically,
and you know, the whole story that's unfolded here is
that Jane's addiction, who we only spoke about, you know,
releasing their first song together with the kind of classic
lineup in a long time, very recently, and they haven't
even released an album or anything yet that we thought
that would be you know, from and maybe still will
be from. But they had a scrap on stage basically
where Perry Farrell tried to punch Dave Navarro on stage,
which again, the first day that happened, you could just
laugh at that a little bit like you know, fucking
it was at the View or whatever, who like got
into you know, whatever happened there their first.
Speaker 2: Day back and their comeback to her and they were
punching on stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but which you know, maybe a bigger, better, more
relevant alternative rock version. But immediately after that they've canceled
the rest of the tour seemingly kind of gone on
a hiatus. Again. The hilarious kind of unfolding of this
in a few days that followed is they still had
a new single single to fuck.
Speaker 2: When that single job on was like, is this a
whole pir stunt? Is the on stage fighter pr stunt
for the single? And it's like no, no, no, no,
this is genuinely like things are getting bad in the
band and it's all kind of like spilled out on stage,
but the single was there to go.
Speaker 1: So yeah. And the last update that I have on
this again as we are recording is Dave Navarro seems
to have gone on record basically saying that this might
be the end of that James Addiction kind of reunion.
He says, it's like, you know, it's a shame that
things had to kind of end this way, which I
you know, I'm I'm not invested in a Jane Addiction reunion.
I can't pretend that I am. So I don't even
know necessarily how how long we went without them, I suppose,
but the fact that again there was that big news
of like have reasoned their first trap together in however
many years went on tour, and within what must be
just a few weeks from that, seemingly the entire thing
has not just resulted in on stage bust up, but
like it's basically what people are like, it imagined that
the Gallagher brothers are going to do right, which they
probably won't. But this is mad that this is like
just spiraled so swiftly, like it just it.
Speaker 2: Just feels so like Milicia's had to know, like and yeah,
they fallout from me, and like I feel bad for
like the band movies, You've kind of just had this
like frost on the matter. And again we don't know
what like the actual things that have occurred between members
of the bands kind of set this off. But yeah,
the whole thing is just this is just kind of
like crazy unraveling all at once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, like David Mara says, I'm sadden about
the fact that you will likely never hear our new
song that they've just released live. So he seems to be.
Speaker 2: I don't blame him if he wants to be if
he wants to be done with it, given you know,
he's just playing and he just andry just comes up
and just swings at him like seemingly for no reason.
I like to him at that moment, I can't really
say I blame Davon and for wanting to, you know,
be out, but yeah, it's just it's crazy one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know. I feel like this is
going to slightly and be forgotten in the aftermath of
the Lincoln partnies and everything, but like this has to
be one of the most snuffed out realiens like I
can personally ever remember.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, the Jax remune has been going
on for a good while. I guess this was just
you know, the time when actually finally seem like there
was going to be something creative coming from it rather
than them just you know, playing shows every couple of years,
and that's then the moment they've tried to do that,
at the moment it's gone completely to it's up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess then there's probably more songs
than the Tank have been, you know, from an album
or something, so maybe that will come out. Maybe that
wasn't I don't know, but yeah, I mean, like if
you are like a you know, a really big Jane
Addiction fan, and you had a particular investment in the
kind of you know, the return of them, you know,
let us know how you kind of feel about the
reunion just sort of like falling by the wayside this way.
But yeah, a mad few days of views in that
particularly regard the story that I just don't really want
to talk about.
Speaker 2: I'm not touching this, I said, I have no like because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the in you know, maybe slightly closer to
home in terms of our sort of slightly more grassroots
metal thing that we talk about. Whatever. The story has been.
Power Trip, who of course have been you know, reuniting
playing shows over the last year or so, have been
announced for their first UK shows since their you know return,
since the death of Dy Gale. Everything supporting that big
Panterra tour that's coming through and that alone would be
enough for some people to kind of roll eyes, draw
a line, whatever you want to do again, that's up
to the individual. But quotes were kind of dragged out
resurfaced from Riley Gale basically saying that they had turned
down a tour with super Joint Ritual, which of course
also features Philanselmo, specifically because he did not want to
kind of associate Power Trip with Phil Anselmo, who at
the time he sort of twenty seventeen ish when this
quote is from obviously was much more recently, you know,
kind of in the news about the whole yeah, white power,
white you know white Sperimc's salute thing that went went
down and has obviously kind of tailed him and his
reputation ever since. And so Power Trip in Riley's absence
touring with a Philanselmo band, a lot of people have
basically used that quote to say that, you know, in
a not unlike the whole Chester Bennington scenario thing or whatever,
that they are pissing on Riley's memory whatever. And again
I I do not want to get involved in this.
I I think if you read the whole quote from Riley,
it's it's an interesting quote. He does not expect I mean,
he says in it, I think Phil is probably a
good person. Like he talks about the the shitty kind
of appearance of obviously what he did and not wanting
to he speaks about it kind of in a at
least how I read what he said. Obviously don't that
words in a dead man's mouth, but he seemed to
speak about it in a way of like, again, I
don't want to associate Power Trip with people who have
that kind of thing around them and muddle. I guess
maybe what power Trip stands for, but he does not explicitly,
he does not say like Phil is a racist shit bag,
And I never want to speak to him in my life.
He does say that, you know, people are nuanced, and
everything kind of pull out of that. So the whole
quote in itself is again, it's it's it's it's a
it's a nuanced interesting way of having it put as
as Riley tended to do. Maybe enough time has passed
since then that they don't feel like, obviously you can
disagree with this and many people, but maybe enough time
has passed that they don't feel like they are kind
of endorsing Phil's reactions by touring with him right off
the back of the whole white power Yeah incident that happened.
Maybe it's just, you know, again, the guys who are
still in Power Trip to this day do not feel
quite as I don't know, principled about it or whatever.
I think you can clearly tell the Power Trip are
a band who like Pantera and you know, yeah take
influence from them. Yeah. Again, if you're upset about this,
I understand I I to a degree, I feel like
Phil and Selmo is back, you know, like he's in
the metal scene. It's kind of hard to kick him out.
Speaker 2: That's it. But again, like there's a whole nor is why.
I'm just I'm just I have no comment on this one,
to be honest, Like, it's what it's happened, is what
it is. I don't really want to dig into dig
into it because there's just no one's going to come
out of it looking particularly nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just a needily conversation that as said,
I I understand if you're upset. I personally, I don't
think I am gonna, like, you know, pull the fucking
hammer down on Power Trip for this particular one, but
it is what it is. It is mad that those
like again the first UK shows, Like, if you want
to see Power Trip again in the UK, currently the
only way you can do it is to see Pantera,
which I you know, was not planning on doing. But
you know, maybe there will be more Gadjira seemingly. I
don't know if this is like this week or if
this has just been reported on this week or something,
but their Olympic show got projected onto the side of
the Octa tree off, which is fucking mad that France
is still doing this. It's been like, you know a
while now since the Olympics and they're still going, yeah, yeah,
remember the thing we did with that metal band, which
is gonna blow that up onto the side of like
another of our most famous landmarks for everyone to see. Incredible.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously, I know they obviously had the actual
track release, not yeah, you know, to coincide with that,
But it's just cool. I'm always just down for the
reminder that this was a really gnardy thing that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like that. The country of France it's
still milking this again. England would never This is very
exciting to me. The Cure have been four years saying
that they have a new album right, and it was
one of those ones where I was like, okay, I
believe it when I was it because the Cure, you know,
pretty regularly released albums for their entire lifespan as a
band up until their most recent album, which came out
in two thousand and eight. You know, every few years,
four or five years whatever, they would always have an
album out, didn't release down Arthur two thousand and eight.
Obviously continue to exist, play shows, whatever, But you went, okay,
are you just a legacy band now? Is there going
to be no more material? And Robert Smith always said,
you know there is material, it's coming, but it took
sixteen years of like no news, so whatever. But there
has been a marketing campaign popping up this past week,
including again little teaser posters and critic hints and that
kind of thing that seemed to suggest that the long
rumored Cure album. We even have a date that seems
to have come from somewhere November the first is apparently
when it is sort of you know, alleged to a.
Speaker 2: Was just just like on a pub outside whether they
used to play or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that.
Speaker 2: It'sort of like just like weird, little like niche viral
marketing things. I'm like, this is kind of corn interesting
and exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Cure, who have not released an album
in my time of like you know, particularly following this
kind of music, have an album apparently in the.
Speaker 2: Work time to and a new Cure album and the
return always going unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm a I'm a huge fan of
the Cure. They're one of the greatest bands of all time.
But that also, you know a lot of their material
from you know, all different eras of the band is worse.
Have you ever heard like, let's say, the two thousands Cure.
Speaker 2: Albums I'm not as in on the two thousands. I
need to spend a bit more time with it because
I kind of like I go to the Cure properly
a couple of years ago. I'm quite late to the Cure.
I think the one I'm with you on the one
of the greatest bands ever point, But I am very
much on the kind of like eighties cure like stuff,
and then kind of that into the night stuff. It's
I need to listen to the more, Like I said,
we're reason the two thousand stuff in a bit more
like depth to really kind of form an opinion on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess you know the three albums they
released in the twenty first entry. There's the there's Blood Flowers,
which is really fucking good, which is kind of it's
sort of they kind of try and loosely position it
in a trilogy with pornography and disintegration as like the
Dark Ones.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've listened to that one. That might be the
one I've actually listened to him for.
Speaker 1: I would say that's the best of their like two
thousands album. That's a really good album. And then there's
famously the one that they did with Ross Robinson, which
has obviously its own different kind of spin and appeal
on it. Yeah, and then the last album, which is
I would say is a good album. I don't think
it's one of the standout ones, but it's a you know,
it's a respectable album from a band of the cures vintage.
But yeah, so the follow up to that, after sixteen years,
I don't know that, you know, how does the band
pick up from that? I don't know, but well apparently
we will see and we might actually have a you know,
a new QRE album of all the bands to be
talking about in a couple of months time, So you
can count me in for a bit of that for sure.
The second headliner of Fortress Festival, the black metal festival
that takes place up in Scarborough, was announced this week.
The first one was of course Agalock, which is a
massively you know, in that world, a huge deal return
of that band playing you know, in Europe for the
first time in you know, about a decade at that point.
The second headliner is thirteen forty nine, which is a
much more like traditional black metal headliner because Agaloque, you know,
very kind of progressive minded kind of band. Thirteen forty
nine they play black metal and it rips. It's less
of like a big deal, holy shit booking than Agaloc,
but I think it's nice to have a more purest
black metal band headliner alongside something a little bit kind
again outside the box, like like Aglock and for that
scene in that world, that's a strong booking. I am
a thirteen to thirty nine fan. I would like to
see them again, so that is again a nice pairing
to go with that. The Ocean have been announced they're
playing Damnation and they're playing their palagial album a Damnation,
but there was an announcement came with that the upcoming
shows that they have, which includes Damnation in various other
sort of European shows, are going to be their last
shows with the current lineup, which is an interesting way
of phrasing. I don't know if that's sort of a
swan's situation where they seem to be saying, you know
that we will be continuing, but there seems to be
a shake up going there. But you know, if you
are a big Ocean fan and that really means something
to you, then that's obviously the news that you need
to know. Trivium and Bullet for my Valentines. The Poison
Slash Ascendancy Celebration Tour has announced you sorry, North American
dates this week. August Burns read silosis and belief within
the who have to see the UK bands appearing as
the support on the the US bills going over there.
But if you are a American listener and you were like, damn,
I really want to see the Poison and Ascendency in
one night, you now have the opportunity to do so
as well. Mark Hoppus has a memoir coming out, co
written with Dan Auzzy, who has written a whole bunch
of sort of punk related.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really well regarded, that sort of very.
Speaker 1: And you know, Mark Coppers has had an interesting life.
You know, the trajectory of Blink twenty two, going from
you know, a snotty pop punk band to like a
pop band for all interns of purposes in terms of
like how the punks of the scene viewed them, there's
got to be some interesting, you know, stories involved in there.
Something I spotted on Instagram today is that Ben Kohler
is selling the drum kit that was played on Jane Doe.
He apparently dug it out and there's a video of
him playing it, and it looks really rusty and it
has the cow bell there from fucking home Wrecker. But
he's saying and he offers to take the drum kit
off my hand. So if you really want the drum
kit that has recorded the fucking Jane Doe.
Speaker 2: Album, one of the greatest sounds ever, one of the great.
Speaker 1: Drum sounds ever as well on that, Yeah, cough up
your funds and head to his d MS. And unfortunate
news this week Brewhia front man Juan Brujoon, which I
believe is his kind of you know, Breuhier stage name
because of the whole mythology that goes with that band.
But he very suddenly passed away of a heart attack.
And this comes only a few months after another brew
Heier's you know, long standing members Pinche Peach, also passed
away recently. So that's two of the kind of you know,
the old guard of a very strange and interesting band
in terms of the place they hold in kind of
grindcore and definite history and so on. But obviously a
lot of associations with so many of the you know,
the legends of that scene with you know, Carcase and
even fear Factory and whatever, and so a lot of
respects being paid to the you know, both those Brehia
guys who have passed away in recent months, and again
with there being such long standing members, I don't know
what that necessarily means for the future of that band,
but know we we acknowledge that here and I also
I feel like I should acknowledge the passing of Michelle Kerr,
who was the co founder of Kosa Nostra PR also
famously you know, through the nineteen nineties and two thousands,
a significant part of the PR teams over at road
Runner and so on at you know, obviously the one
of the peak eras of that labels dominance and so
many records, and this is a you know, this is
an industry loss obviously, like and so working in the
industry and seeing so many people who we know and
work with and so on obviously you know, being affected
by this and posting their tributes and so on, a
really big loss in terms of again particularly the UK industry,
in terms of how this whole little corner works. So
many people seem to have their you know, long standing
relationships of working with Michelle from the nineties or you know,
the la last decade or whatever. I only ever met
Michelle once. It was at Bloodstock last year, and although
weirdly it was a you know, in its own way,
a kind of memorable interaction that seems to be very
on brand for her in terms of how everyone kind
of spoke about her, but not someone who I have
that same long standing, you know, close relationship with, So
you know, I felt a little bit funny seeing so
many people post there, you know, those kind of stories
and so one, because obviously that's I wasn't involved to
that degree. But you know, I did did meet her.
She did you know, she worked with us to to
to some degree and a such a hugely respected part
of the UK industry, and very bizarrely I did also
again when I was away this weekend in London, I
found myself in the Hampstead Heath area, which has been
posted here as kind of an area that she particularly loved,
and there there was a fundraiser to get a memorial
bench for the put up on has To Heath and
it was again a solemn moment kind of walking around
there just at a particular point in time. So yeah,
just a moment of acknowledgment as well for Michelle Kerr
and everything she kind of offered to you know, our
little corner of this industry and everyone who who really
knew her. So yes, let us move on to some questions,
which this is the last little batch from the ones
I had saved up. So next time we come to
these in a couple of weeks time, I'll be asking
for more, so I start stocking them up. But let's
go through it. Shameless oh Sander asks what is your
favorite musical guest appearance by T and M artists in movies,
slash TV, slash games, New material that plays an actual
part in the media, not just random soundtrack listening. So
that is the significant part here, and that is the
part that maybe I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, throat comes slightly tricky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you think, like you know, I I
was thinking about the fucking you were talking about that
Alan Wake thing or something where like there was a
huge like something actually.
Speaker 2: Like a whole like Swedish metal band doing a whole
original music piece for that interacts with the level of
the video game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what level of like you know, being included
in the media we're talking I basically took this as
at the very least an original song made for like
that movie or piece of TV or whatever, not just
an existing song plopped in on the soundtrack. So stuff
that was specifically made for the thing in question. So
unfortunately was playing Tormentor in the Dungeon Master.
Speaker 2: I would almost count that as because if they are
an integral part story, you know, I was kind of
looking at this is just not like you know, like
when the Salem song got played in the end credit, Yeah, scream,
like that was a really cool moment. But I wouldn't
really care it was an existing song. Yeah it's an
existing song, or it's just it's just a song being played.
It's not a band appearing as characters in the show,
the movie the game like there wasn't. I would almost
count because they are characters in the movie doing a
key set piece. So like I guess I could like
it almost cuts, but like I assum by like a
song written specifically for something to like actually enhance it
that that's like one I can see why I like
that would count more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I said, my I couldn't think of
many which are again so heavily integrated in like a
fucking as you say a plot specific or something.
Speaker 2: Way.
Speaker 1: I did think along the lines of, you know, at
the very least original songs written for a movie, and
there you obviously go like, you know, fucking speaking of
the cure, you know, burn from the Crow.
Speaker 2: The best like film soundtracks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, song ever is unbelievable. I can't remember. Is d
Coode like actually in a Twilight movie or was it
just like it was.
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, like it was the end credits song
written for like, yeah, the first Twilight movie in the
same way you know what I've done and New Divide
and or Lincoln Park became the Transformers back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Decode has got to be in that same
kind of like you know, Krem for the Crem kind
of category in terms of again, So I was thinking
of uh, musical appearances of Again maybe places you might
not expect them or whatever. One that's just in the
last couple of as has always come to mind because
again it's kind of fresh, but it's a really strong
as ARMP I think is Chelsea Wolfe's involvement in the
X movies where the original movie X, she uh teamed
up with Tyler Bates to do the score for it,
but the big moment, So you know, she's involved in
like all the ghostly whales and stuff that appear throughout it,
which is while I'm on that trailer, just something that
popped in my mind is if you ever seen the
Wes Craven movie The Serpent and the Rainbow, No, it's.
Speaker 2: What I need to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, here's like eighties voodoo zombie movie, but
there's a really fucked up, like zombie ghost thing that
appears in that, and I'm pretty sure it's voiced by
Diamanda Gallas, which is the most crazy who was like
the kind of the Linguid Notre of her day. Basically
it's like the craziest voice that you could apply to
a weird ghost thing. But you know, Chelsea Wilf involved
in the sort of the general soundtrack vibe of the
X movie. But then there's the end credit song, which
is her version of a like famous folk song called
Wee Weee Marie uh and then have associated with Yeah,
and then that song appears is like throughout the kind
of trilogy like it appears in Pearl, but in its
like original form, but obviously the mirroring of that with
the Chelsea Wolf version that that's just again my very
first thought here in terms of like that was a
really cool like one of our lot appearing in a
way that was like genuinely added something to another piece
of media.
Speaker 2: I mean, like videos. Know, there was a couple year
where Avenged Sevenfold became the Call of Duty band. They
like they would do original songs each called game they
were in the they were like in the game playing
at points like they were like just the Call of
Duty band. Yeah, like I do you know the song
they were doing were like not amazing, but you know
in terms.
Speaker 1: Of like more like hard Rocket Ready to Die, it
was a tune.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one that I was really good. Yeah,
like like yeah, they became like the call of Duty band.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I suppose we should mention the famous Beavis and
butt Head thing with the white zombie so on, which
I think was I might be right in saying what
was kind of made four that the whole like tripping
in the desert part, uh, James Hetfield in the South
Park movie as Hell.
Speaker 2: You've Got like you know, Cannibal Corpse in a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an appearance playing yeah smashtas, which is
obviously an existent song.
Speaker 2: Sema, I couldn't countimmt one in one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark would probably pick that Weezer SpongeBob song when
they did the song we cut.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, Oh no, the one Weezer recently crap
Netflix Christmas movie that I kind of what it was called,
that came out last year. Weez are in it, playing
like their own original.
Speaker 1: Christmas So there's they've done one since we did our
special running down every stupid thing they ever did.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, they are characters like the dad in this
movie plays in a band that also happens to be
with the members of Weezer, and they are literally playing
like a weeze vi version. Terrible kind of what it
was called. It's that bad. It was one of those
just like ship Netflix Christmas, but weez were in there
playing original Christmas songs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was the one that they there was like
a surf game, like a rhythm game one and they
did a song for that, and that was a tune
that was that was a pretty decent one. So you
take your pick from the Wheezer lot. Ben Martin asks
bigger headline discussion, who do you want to see make
the jump from underground slash side stages to main stage
undercard slots. Personally, i'd love to see Riot City make
the jump to the big stage. They are a pretty
good kind of again sort of up and coming trad
heavy metal band. So basically this is, you know, it's
a little bit like the age old question that we're
bored off of who will headline download? But it's not that.
It's instead what bands are normally buried away on the sides,
who you at least want to see get put on
like a main stage.
Speaker 2: I mean, most of my music tastes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think i'd like, you know, because you
went to Slam Up this year and we were saying
that a lot of the best bands were on the
side stages, So like, was there any examples like that
One Step Closer or something like that.
Speaker 2: They're the one that I think, like I would really
pick and kind of point to and say they've got up.
There is that whole crop of hardcore, melodic, punk, emo
kind of bands that are coming up that will really cool, trendy,
you know playing the main stage outbreak that I want
to see. Actually, like I would happily go see them
play that No Barrier Masons outbreak every time. But I
wouldn't see these bands get their sort of higher up slots.
I want to see Scowl get put on like a
better stage at a bigger festival. I was to see
Down but you know, we know how that went. But like,
like see these bands like like what happened with Turnstile
when Turntal were actually starting to be put onto bigger
platforms that like not loose at download. I mean, I
know they've done it a Blood, but I think not
loose need to you know, absolutely be on that download
main stage at this point. I think it's crazy they
haven't been put there already, not not a download like
I think they've done the Mansions of Blood like stuff
like that. That's what I want to see.
Speaker 1: I was thinking.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: My immediate thoughts were again on those kind of headingtle
lines of like maybe again because I saw went to
Bloodshot this year and I saw Eternal Champion on the
second stage.
Speaker 2: That was what I was thinking. When you Yeah, I
was like.
Speaker 1: It was cool in there, but I was like, man,
this in my world, this is what would be Front
and set Em and Summer LANs, who are such all
of that. In summer Lands their last album are like
incredible sort of you know, death leopardy pop metal songs
that is pure main stage fodder in my mind, even
like a band like Sonya I think could kind of
rise to that level. Spirit Adrift start again. On the
death metal side. I think a band who I'd like
to see follow in that kind of gate creeper route whatever,
someone like Frozen Soul, I'd like to see that, Like
I'm death Yeah, I think it.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see those sort bands or get Frozen.
Speaker 1: I saw they played the second stage of bluz Stock
here and I can imagine they'm doing really well on
the outdoor. And again this is I don't know if
this is maybe an outdated one or whatever, but one
of my first fucking thoughts was Baroness Hot Take, stop
fucking hiding them away every time they appear or a
big festival there seemingly or like a fourth stage somewhere,
and it's like, fucking come on, it's Baroness, for christ,
They've played their dudes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that that's a great shout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Malcolm Fox asks, what do you think about
touring packages joining festival lineups? Is it worth pulling a
touring line up into an established festival when they happen
to overlap. So this is a proper sort of you know,
nitty gritty of like again booking of festivals and how
they work type question. But I guess you know, as
a punter, you know, maybe can go to two promoters
one pod to see what they think about the logistics
of how they go about this. But as a punter
going to festivals, what do you think about kind of
like does it annoy you in terms of I could
see this else where? Does it appeal to you and
like oh cool that tour is coming through X festival.
Speaker 2: I mean it's something where I would like there are
some things where I'm like, I know, if a tour
package had been London a festival, then those bands are
all none of Like a lot of those bands, like
the headlines, they're going to be playing probably further down
and not headlining, so they're going to be doing a
short set, which is a shame. I always look at
it kind of go like but to be honest, like, logistically,
if they're going to be playing a tour at the
same time as a festival's going on, it's probably like
risking hit like their attendance to their own show. So
I get why practically for bands it might be better.
I don't mind it too much. It depends on, like
knowing driving a recent right there was like, oh, well
I went to and I was like I saw a
thing on the festival and I saw the headline set
that that band to play the festival did the next day,
and I was like, fuck me, I missed out kind
of that that's one was a bit of a kick.
Speaker 1: But I getting, Yeah, maybe there's certain times when, as
you're saying, if the band you really want to see
end up getting punted lower, maybe you've got to try
and travel elsewhere to see like the full set. As
you're saying, yeah, I tend to not really think about
it very much because I think it's just one of
those sort of realities of how things work currently, because
like that's generally how I go about it. Yeah, Because
I mean, especially if it's an international thing, right of
like you know, a band are coming over from America
or you know a distant part of Europe or Japan
or whatever they might be, is it you know, what's
more What matters to me is getting that band over
here and having them like succeed on it, and it
being affordable for them to do. What is easier for
that band to do. Is it easier for them to
come and do just one exclusive show and then disappear again,
or is it easier for them to build a tour
around it? And if the answer is the latter, you know,
I think it's a case by case thing of what
might be easier. But like, if the answer is the
latter and that is what gets them over here, I
don't mind at all, you know, because it gets them
over here and I get to see it, and they
get to, you know, do an actual tour and function
as a band and whatever. And in terms of pulling
up the whole package in you know, sometimes you just
get some kind of useless undercard bands and that's fine
because you don't have to watch them, and sometimes you
get some cool things out of it. I mean, you know,
I remember Damnation two years ago, there was a Decapitated
tour package that came through and it got added on.
Damnation and Decapsity were touring with some death core bands
who otherwise might not have played Damnation, and as a result,
I got to see Despised ikon Damnation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if that.
Speaker 1: Would have happened otherwise and that was really fun cool.
Like I didn't watch all them, I didn't watch OCA
and whatever, but like I got to despised Ico at
Damnation and that was as a result of that tour
package being lumped on, and that was just fine.
Speaker 2: I think you've had a similar thing with Damnation this
year with the gate creeper two hundred stab wounds and forced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they build what works around it, so yeah, I
don't mind. As someone who is not talking from the
booking side of things here, I'm talking from like the
the value for money punter thing. Ultimately, what you want
to do is you want to be able to see
bands come over from other areas of the world, which
is not super fucking easy to do all the time.
And if that's what helps that happen, then sure, fine,
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some pretty cool releases coming out today. We are going
to start off with I guess you know. The giant
band in the bunch is the return of night Wish
and their album Yes to Wind. You should know by
now if Nightwish are you know, if your thing or not,
but if they are, you know, they are legends in
that in that field, so that'll be interested one to
check out. There is also the new album from unto others,
which is called never never Land of course one of
the most beloved over here TNM you know, up and
comer type bands. So that is out Vended, the you know,
the the slutnoton epos they are. They've got their new
album called Vended out today. I think that's their debut
for like the album. I guess we should check in
and like, you know, really yeah, check what's actually really
going on with that record and not be as flippant
as as it just was. That's just how we've all
known them up to this point. It's time to make
a decision.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Vended is out. Crimson Veil kind of sort of alt
metal type thing. They are called Hex Charlotte Vessels that
is basically the ex singer of Delanne who Delayne kind
of like imploded into like various forms not long ago,
but you know, the singer on most of Delaye albums.
You know, has a solo album called The Obsession and
much like night where you probably know if Delana for
you or not, so you can follow in that regard
switching over to heavier hardcore type stuff. Kupli Khan t X.
I've got a record called exhibition of prowess. I've never
like gone for Koop Bli Klan. Are you interested?
Speaker 2: I think they're fine. I think they've got a couple
of bangers. They seem to be one of those bands
people have to have an opinion, and I'm just like,
they're they're not. They've never seemed so good or so
bad in that scene to really like form a strong opinion. Otherwise,
I was like, you know, that song's pretty hard, that
one pretty forgettable.
Speaker 1: They're on the Bluzz bill next year, aren't they? So
maybe worth checking in on it in that regard, if
that's where you're gonna be headed. Also in hardcore, Regional
Justice Center back with Freedom, Sweet Freedom, which will be
like thirteen minutes long or something. We spoke about this
BANDI fairly recently, a grow fast, fast hardcore moving over,
you know, back to the UK and Church Road Records
for some slightly mathy whatever kind of techi type there.
Giant Walker got a recorded Silhouettes in your sort of
you know, riffy doom area. You have a Luna with
Fever dream. There's a band called demon Head with a
record called Through Hole, Shine the Stars, which is a
great name checked out a bit of this and it
really sounds like in solitudes, just like proper you know
that kind of style. Goffy metal dungeon crawl for a
record called Maze Controller, which is Who's controlling the maze?
You know, I want to who controlling the maze? But
that is shockingly dungeony kind of you know, metal type stuff.
Then we have moving into you know, further into the
underground glacial Tomb, Lightless Expanse for your kind of sort
of techie death metal, for less techie death metal, more
stinky death metals. And I called Coffin Rott, who I
believe her on Maggot Stump, which the record is called
The Dreams of the Disturbed, And we slipped over to
black metal. Canon and Fever have got a record called
De Katastrophe d Catastrophe. Yeah that's probably a really simple sentence,
but just the German pronunciation threw me there. Conona Fever
have become one of the most popular kind of current
bands in black metal, Like they were you one of these.
You will see their merch at a lot of black
metal shows, so they clearly a band who are kind
of on the up in that regard. Norwegian black metal
Mark have got Scyth a record that I am interested
to check out and really see what it sounds like.
A record from a called Dreamless Veil called Every Limb
of the Flood, which kind of a bit of an
underground supergroup. It features members of inter Armor and Artificial
Brain against bands for the tech death world but also
kind of the black metal world as well. Mix of
stuff going on there. Very prolific, freaky, strange underground project
over the years, sup Trillium, They've got a record called
Doff Dennyel and finally again in that underground the darkest
of black old corners, Deathless Void, the voluptuous fire of Sin,
very sourcy. That is what we have for you today.
So go and you know, fire at Will check out.
What do you want? Sam? You are off to Japan,
So you are not going to be on the show
for a couple of.
Speaker 2: Weeks, Yeah, two weeks. I'm away, you know, going to
a ark in Japan, which will be an interesting kind
of like Japanese. There's three three free Japanese openers on there,
so like that's something I'm actually really interest checking out,
a sort of seeing like the three sort of Japanese
one of those bands I've listened to. They're called Blow
your Brains Out, and they are hard as fuck, really cool.
Speaker 1: That's very very cool indeed. So yeah, so you know,
you can tell us all about that when you arrive
in you know, a couple of weeks time. Next week.
Myself and Elliott though, will of course have reviews to
talk about. We're obviously gonna talk about that Night Wish album,
that unto others album, a whole bunch of other stuff
that's coming out over September that is worth, you know,
ask discussing. I don't think it's going to be a
Friday show next week. I think it's going to be
kind of early the following week. But you know, rest
assured that is coming the big September reviews bag, and that,
as said, will be what is next from us. So
we will see you there and hope you tune in.
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