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Speaker 1: Welcome to another happy English podcast coming to you from

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New York City. And here's your English teacher, Michael.

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Speaker 2: All right, so today we have really something very special

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and exciting. I want to introduce to you Lindsey from

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All Years English. I'm sure you all know the All

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Years English podcast. Let me tell you a little bit

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about Lindsay. Lindsay McMahon is the CEO of All Ears

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English and is the co host of the All Years

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English podcast. The All Years English podcast teaches English communication

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and global business skills to one point nine million followers,

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Oh my god, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify globally, and

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it's downloaded three point five million times a month. Oh

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my god. And that podcast, All Ears English has been

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ranked as high as number one in US education language courses.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Lindsay and her team have been featured in Podcasts Magazine,

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Language Magazine, and Forbes and their podcast is awesome. And

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I am so happy to have Lindsay here on the

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program of Lindsey Welcome on.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Michael.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad to be here. Thank you for having

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me on. Great to collaborate with you again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yep.

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Speaker 2: And I have to tell my listeners that Lindsey is

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the person you can blame for me having a podcast,

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because way back in twenty fourteen, yeah, you know this,

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this All Years English podcast popped up and I thought,

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that's kind of cool a podcast. I've always liked radio.

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I'm going to do a podcast too. So she was

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a very influence on me, and she's the reason why

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I'm here with you introducing her to So.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did not know that, Michael.

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Speaker 3: I did not know that All Ours English was the

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inspiration for you to start a show.

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad to hear that. Very cool.

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Speaker 2: And today Lindsay is in the States and I, as

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you probably already know, am back in Japan, and I

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thought we could have a little chat today about that

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experience or lindsay experience here in Japan. Yeah, so welcome,

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love the program.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, excited to be here, Excited to talk about Japan.

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I lived in Japan in two thousand and five and six,

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and though it was twenty years ago, the memory and

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just the experience is still very visceral for me, right,

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just just the memories that just was a very formative

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experience in my mid twenties, and so excited to get

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into it and see how things have changed a bit

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over the years.

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Speaker 2: So what are you know, what are some some experiences,

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are things that you remember about from in those days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing that I remember about living in Japan

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was that it was a one hundred percent cash based society.

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So nowadays in the US, now this is not two

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thousand and five, so things are a little skewed a

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little different now in the US. But I don't really

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use cash right just credit cards. But I remember at

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that time in Japan it was cash based and in the

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US people were using credit cards. So I'm curious if

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that's still the case in Japan.

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Speaker 2: So right now I'm living in a really really small

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town and some of the local shops are still cash only. Okay,

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basically e money is the thing now. And so like

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in the States, there's like a venmo or you know,

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you pay with your phone, right and you yeah, you know,

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it's the same thing. Here. There's a there's a very

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popular app called Paypay and you show the barcord bar

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code and they scan it and then you hear you

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and then you know you've paid. So Japan has really

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come into the twenty first century in terms of you know,

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the cash lists society.

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Speaker 3: So it's not credit cards, it's the cash apps. Do

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people also use or the credit card on an app

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Speaker 2: Well if if if a store takes credit cards, they

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also take you know, the phone.

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Speaker 4: Out Okay, got it, got it? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I do remember, like when I was here

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in the nineties, it was just yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what year did you leave Japan the first

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time when you lived you, I was.

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Speaker 2: Here a ninety four to ninety.

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Speaker 4: Eight, okay, okay, So still when I.

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Speaker 2: First started working as an English teacher here, the first

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couple of months, my when I got paid, they paid

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you once a month.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I think for me, I got paid once

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a month in direct deposit, I think is what it was.

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was different for me at that time. I think the

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standard in the US is to be paid twice.

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Speaker 2: A month, right, right, And I think that's a that's

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a law, right, like probably with in fifteen days of

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lot of companies do it.

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Speaker 4: So differences around payments.

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Speaker 2: For sure, absolutely, absolutely, and here's still it's you get

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Speaker 4: Okay, got it? That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And then you know probably when you were here,

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you know, you might have gone out with your coworkers

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after work to a restaurant or something or a bar,

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and you know that has completely changed these days.

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Speaker 4: Really yeah, so tell me more.

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Speaker 2: I'm the younger generation of workers. And when I say

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the younger generation, like you know, people in their twenties

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and thirties, they're they're interested more in a work life balance. Okay,

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so going out drinking with your boss senior co workers

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is you know these days the workers would say, well,

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am I going to get paid for that? Is? That?

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Speaker 4: That is a dramatic shift in twenty years.

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Speaker 2: That's a very dramatic shift.

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Speaker 3: Wow, And would you say so, here's a more detailed question.

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So people in their you know, new young professionals are

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not doing it. What about people in their forties fifties,

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like senior more senior people. Are they still doing that?

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just not not there or is it not happening at all?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, So there is a there is a drinking culture,

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and I think it is the older generation is still

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doing that. But like back in the day, when I

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say back in the day, like when you were here

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and when I was here, you would you know, after

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work you go to a pub they call it an

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eza kayak and yeah, yeah, thanks, have some food, have

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some drinks and some food, and then after that go to

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kadao okay, yeah, and then maybe after that go to

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the bar. And so I think they don't have that

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culture of those two or three parties a night. Yeah,

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let's go to the pub, have some food, have some drinks. Okay,

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see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's a big change because a big part of my

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life was was that. That That was how I got

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to know my coworkers, you know, that was how I

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kind of built those professional relationships. Right, And I'm not

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surprised because we're seeing that in the US too, Right.

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It's a big shift towards work life balance, towards employees

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reclaiming their time and reclaiming their independence.

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Speaker 4: It's a good thing. I'm just surprised it's changed so much. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's interesting. Sorry, it's interesting

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to see that that you know, people are they'll work hard,

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but they're not willing to you know, spend their private

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time with the boss drinking at the pub.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So do you think as a result the relations like,

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is business suffering? Because I think the thesis was always

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that that made business smoother or better or more efficient

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because we knew each other outside of work.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I don't really know, Like I've

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only been for four months. I work just me, you know,

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population and it's you know, it's it's a worker's market, right, like,

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companies need people to work, and so I think that

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kind of pressure to go out drinking with your coworkers.

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I guess you can build your relationships, you know, during

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the course of the work day.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that night, Yes, for sure makes sense. Really interesting.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of what else is different? Smoking?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, tell me about that, right.

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Speaker 2: So I live in a very small town here, and

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there are a couple of restaurants that have a smoking section. Okay,

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I put that in air quotes because for me, if

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you go into a restaurant and there's a smoking section,

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you can still smell the smoke no matter where you are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, it's like an airplane smoking section of

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an air or an airport or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the majority of restaurants that I've been to here

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in the last four months is no smoking.

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Speaker 3: That's also a big change, because in two thousand and five,

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all these zakayas were still very much smoking, And I

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think that's a I think we had already made the

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shift in the US to less smoking, but it was

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still smoking in restaurants in Japan in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I asked, like, it seems like it's not

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a law, Okay, it's more of a cultural trend, right, right,

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a smoking section or there's no smoking allowed, blah blah blah. Okay,

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it's just that these restaurants and the customers are deciding

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they don't want to they don't want to do with that.

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Speaker 4: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that makes sense in an organized society sometimes,

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cultural like respect for others can say more than the

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law or is equal to the law, and away.

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Speaker 2: Right, really group harmony. Here is the is the is

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the theme? I guess?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What about One thing I always loved about Japan was

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the convenience stores and how you could buy essentially a

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full healthy I thought it was healthy meal at like

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a Lossons or I think there was seven eleven at

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Speaker 4: I don't remember. Is that still the case or yeah?

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you know, there's a mice, there's approtea, like some grilled

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meat or grilled fish, vegetables, some pickles, there's a whole

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five or seven dollars US.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: What a good deal, What a good deal for quality food?

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I mean right now, Michael, I mean you know you

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were just here. What you can get in the US

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for five dollars. Maybe you could get a candy bar

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or something. It's definitely not going to be healthy. It's

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not going to be how much eggs now, a dozen eggs?

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Speaker 4: It depends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen it anywhere from five to like twelve dollars.

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of eggs, and I think that the prices went up.

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I think they're coming down now, but we could see

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them go up again. It's really touch and go right

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now in the US. Yeah, but yeah, anywhere between five

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and twelve, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: I know, I lived in New York and New York

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is an island, and I was living in a place

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called Long Island, which is also an island, very close

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to the beach in the Avantic Ocean. Yeah, really hard

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to get fresh.

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Speaker 4: Fish, really really Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm here. I'm not too close to the ocean actually,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I miss that. I will say. I love

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good seafood. I mean, right now, I'm in a landlocked state.

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Speaker 3: I'm in Colorado's where I live, So I don't eat

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a lot of fish because I'm assuming it's not going

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the Boston area. And no, there was a fish market

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in that town. Sometimes I feel like at the grocery

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store we would get old fish and it was a

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seaside town.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's very ironic, yeah, right, But traditionally the culture

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here is they eat It's an island, so they eat

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fish more than meat. I think eating meat happened like

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within the last one hundred and fifty years. Okay, So

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you know, and so fish is plentiful, and it's it's

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a good deal. And you know, we were talking about

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those you know, one meal pento box. You can even

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get those at the grocery store now.

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Speaker 4: Really, I love that.

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Speaker 2: A long time ago, I love that.

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Speaker 3: I remember going to the Sukiji fish market a couple

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of times where they still have the tuna auctions open. Right,

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you could still go and watch that auction. I think

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it's closed now, is that right?

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Speaker 2: Moved to a different place. They still have that auction

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going on.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and tourists can still see it, can get in

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there and watch.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Nice, I'm glad to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and avct of me. That seems to be a big,

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big part of the tourism here. Every time I look

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in the news, it says that, oh, the number of

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inbound tourists last month is a world record for Japan.

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Every month there's more and more and more tourists coming.

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So yeah, yeah, maybe the list some of the listeners

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of this podcast might be out there just thinking, I hope,

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so come to Japan, come see me.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: We did a couple of live events in Japan in

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twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen for all theirs English and

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it was fantastic to be able to go there, you know,

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for work and bring my coworker there.

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Speaker 4: I just relive the days. It was so cool, so cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the other interesting thing about Japan,

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you know there there always was a good train network,

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and it's even better now of the high speed train

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called the Bullet Train. They've got new routes to go

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to all different places. So it's really you don't really

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need a car as long as you can get on

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you hop on a train, you can get to pretty

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much everywhere you need to get Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, in two thousand and five, used to be

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able to ride the local train, not even the bullet train,

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because for me, the bulletrain was too expensive at that time.

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Speaker 4: Right as an English teacher.

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Speaker 3: But I could ride the local train from Tokyo out

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to the Sea of Japan, out to what is it.

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Speaker 4: Not Kuma Molto what is it?

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Speaker 3: Can't remember the name of the town, but anyways, early yeah, Kamakura, Yes,

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And that was my vacation and I could just get

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on the train, a local like I don't know, a

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thousand yen or something.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy. You could never do that in the US.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, it's interesting like that. We had in

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America really advanced for the time train system in the

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nineteen twenties. Yeah, and that was a really popular way

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to travel, like New York to Boston or in New

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York to Chicago. Yes, and then you know, the automobile

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came and it was affordable and because Americans have a

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very independent spirit and you know me culture, right, you know,

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if I have a car and I can afford a car,

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I can go at my speed, my schedule, my time

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stock when I want to take a break, when I want. Yes.

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And also America is physically large, right, so to connect

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every place with one train system would be tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such an interesting glimpse into American culture as

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the car, right, I mean, Henry Ford, Right, he kind

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of made the car relevant in the US, and then

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there was no going back from there once they built

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the highways, they introduced the car. It's that independent spirit.

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The American road trip is one of the most iconic

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experiences you can have in the US, right, Michael, have

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you ever done that?

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Speaker 2: I've driven from New York to Florida, New York to Chicago,

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New York many times, and we have this. I mentioned

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this a few weeks ago in the podcast here, the

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road trip, especially in the summertime. Right, you pack up

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the family and you get in the car and you go.

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It's not the destination that's the key point. It's just

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the journey itself is an exciting part, right everything.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean I built an entire course, an

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English course actually, which is still still still available at

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all our English where I took a loop around the

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country Michael, in twenty sixteen, twelve thousand miles around the US,

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and I interviewed people that I met along the way

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in bars and festivals, in the street restaurants, and then

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we have all of those interviews as part of activities

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and learning listening vocabulary. So it is kind of the journey, right,

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I had so much fun building that course.

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Speaker 4: It was amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeh.

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Speaker 2: And so that that I think I'd like to wrap

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up here with that. So I'm sure everyone knows where

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to find All Ears English, but can you tell us

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exactly where to find you and your podcast? And also

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what you know, what else do you guys do there

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besides just podcasts?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so absolutely so we do. We do publish courses

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at All Ours English. We have an app, we do,

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we have a YouTube channel. But for our listeners here

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on your podcast, the best way to find us would

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be to just open their search bar. If they're listening

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with an Apple Podcasts or Spotify, just open your search

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bar and type in all Ears English.

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Speaker 4: You'll see the.

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Speaker 3: Yellow pop up and hit that follow button. So the

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big thing that we are, our whole thing is connection,

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not perfection. So we bring every podcast episode back to

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human connection. We figure out what is the piece that

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will help us connect to live a happier life, and

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that's what we pull out of.

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Speaker 4: What we're teaching for that day. We publish five days

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a week on the show.

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Speaker 2: Right, And you know, I've always admired your podcast, and

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I've always admired your catchphrase connection not protection, because contact

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with other people. I think that's what language is all about, right, huge,

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you have to be perfect.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it is so freeing when you realize that.

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Speaker 3: When you accept that, you can breathe, exhale, and now

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we can get to the business of really connecting and

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truly learning.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, well Lindsey, thanks for taking your time

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today to chat about this. That was very fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you Michael for having me on. That was great.

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Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: To all the listeners out there, make sure you type

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in all years English, look for a little yellow and

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you'll find them. Man. Then yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 4: All right, Thanks Michael, see you next time.

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Speaker 2: You next time.

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