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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what that means. We're going to talk about things

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<v Speaker 1>in pop culture, babe, but mostly we're going to talk Bravo.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got my friends here, Gibson, John's of gabbing with

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<v Speaker 1>gibb an expert, I might say on Bravo, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well, how are you? Thanks for I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be back on the Pink Shade.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now listen, We've got lots to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we do. There's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Now. Number one, I'm not a summer house girly,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am following the drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I did get a note on Spotify that I need

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<v Speaker 1>to stop talking about it if I don't watch the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but I disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>What's it like following it not watching the show? That's

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It is because I have such a strong feeling that like,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle is the victim, only because I know the dynamics.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, so he was runs with this

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<v Speaker 1>guy they were getting into. But people are like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>completely wrong because he's an asshole.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, okay, well here's the thing two

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<v Speaker 2>things gonna be true at once. You know, like Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>has mistreated Amanda through a lot of their relations He's

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<v Speaker 2>he's been a bad husband and boyfriend to her over

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<v Speaker 2>the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Also I think as we're seeing, especially watching the rest

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<v Speaker 2>this you know, back half of the season, through a

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<v Speaker 2>different lens, knowing what we know about Amanda and West,

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<v Speaker 2>it has reframed some of how are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>how I think she has also contributed to the fracture

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<v Speaker 2>and fallout of their relationship. You know, she might not

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<v Speaker 2>have done as many sort of big glaring things, but

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<v Speaker 2>especially in you know, this season, maybe last season, like

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<v Speaker 2>she she's not she's not helping the situation, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>but I only excuses how he has treated her. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's a mutual contribution to downfall of their relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they were mutually responsible for you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>getting separated, getting divorced, Yeah, in different ways. But then

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<v Speaker 1>she took it to the next level by hooking up

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<v Speaker 1>with this guy that was her husband's friend and also

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<v Speaker 1>her one of her very close friend's ex boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, yes, And to me, like the bigger betrayals

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<v Speaker 2>here are about friendship. Like I think that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>I agree that Kyle is a victim in this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Sierra is the bigger victim in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, now, because then you see the other side

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<v Speaker 1>and again because I know, I don't know, and you

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<v Speaker 1>see the other side where people say, yeah, she only

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<v Speaker 1>dated him for three months, it was like two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and who cares.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's coming out now that they were also

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<v Speaker 2>sort of hooking up this fall. I saw that this

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<v Speaker 2>morning and so and I had heard that, but Bravo

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<v Speaker 2>and Cocktails put it out this morning. Because next week's

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<v Speaker 2>finale we see them making out that they yeah Era

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<v Speaker 2>in West Yeah, that was in the preview for the

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<v Speaker 2>next week's episode. And so it goes beyond just like

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<v Speaker 2>becoming flirty friends again, like they start getting physical again,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not so.

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<v Speaker 1>That changes everything that changes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that argument that it was you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>stale three year old you know whatever, it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>goes out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, back in now, Sierra is the bigger victim.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>You can then, Wow, Well, I am going to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the reunion because you should.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's the TV event of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, because sometimes when you watch a reunion,

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<v Speaker 1>even if like sometimes I dip out of a season,

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<v Speaker 1>like I kind of did this last year with Potomac.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wasn't into it, and I dipped out of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, and then I got back in at the reunion,

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<v Speaker 1>and so sometimes I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do to get the recap'st the recap and see how

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to seat up for the next year.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally got that. I'm a complaint. I'm like an

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<v Speaker 2>annoy a complete list, Like I have to watch all

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<v Speaker 2>of it for like my own, you know, mental state.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I understand tapping out and tapping back in

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<v Speaker 2>for the reunion. I think it's a good way to

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<v Speaker 2>do it if it's not working for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you posted that you yourself were on somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>I was, Yeah, I went to Lindsay's housewarming, which was

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<v Speaker 2>filmed for the show, and so I was hiding in

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<v Speaker 2>the background for that, not like or anything that was

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<v Speaker 2>in August, okay, on a Friday, and yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like huddled huddled in with like the non

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<v Speaker 2>show people basically who were invited, And I really it's

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating watching them film the show. You know, whenever I've

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<v Speaker 2>had opportunities to be at film events on various shows

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, that's what I'm really watching. Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not really watching like trying to read their lips and

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<v Speaker 2>hear what they're talking about. It's more like, Okay, how

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<v Speaker 2>are the cameras moving around? Like the producer sort of

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<v Speaker 2>with their their you know, ear pieces, and they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to each other, and some of them have like

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<v Speaker 2>little iPads where they can watch what's happening in real time,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like this looks interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Run over there, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they'll like tap one of them on the shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, you know, they're probably being like go

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<v Speaker 2>talk to this person or whatever, or you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>only so many cameras and they're probably in a party

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<v Speaker 2>setting like that. There's a lot of conversations happening in

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<v Speaker 2>little groups, and so there's somebody listening as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be in the other room even being like

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<v Speaker 2>like trying to hear all of the different microphones and

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<v Speaker 2>like if there's not a camera on, Sabrina and Amanda

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<v Speaker 2>talking about whatever there and they're they're starting to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about something interesting. Then you'll see the camp they're probably

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<v Speaker 2>tipped off by somebody listening and the cameras running over

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<v Speaker 2>to them to like try to film it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I nerd out on that kind of on that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why you see a lot on Our Housewives

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff where it's like, can I talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>for a second over here, because they're like, if we

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<v Speaker 1>can get just the microphones isolated over here, then and

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<v Speaker 1>then probably at the same time, something else could be

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<v Speaker 1>happening over here, like the Ladies of London this season,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw when Kimmy and miss A had that argument

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<v Speaker 1>and Margo went and jumped in, but then you kept

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<v Speaker 1>panning over to Martha and Mark Brance's going, oh, how dreadful?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly, Yeah. I love that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. Yeah, So that was like the most interesting

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<v Speaker 2>part of being at that because also like at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>like they'd been filming the season for two months or

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<v Speaker 2>like over a month or so month and a half maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>and so like I have no idea what but like

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<v Speaker 2>is going on in the season or what the drama

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<v Speaker 2>is or anything. So even trying to like pay attention

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<v Speaker 2>to that it's kind of silly because I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the lead up has been, you know, So I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't there to get the tea. I was just more

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<v Speaker 2>there to like experience it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cool, that's really cool. Well, well, so why

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<v Speaker 1>and again, don't come at me, I understand I don't

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<v Speaker 1>watch Summerhouse people. My question is, if it's Lindsey's housewarming,

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<v Speaker 1>why wasn't that film for in the City because she

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<v Speaker 1>bought herself her own beach house.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this was her big new apartment in New York City, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And essentially this is the current season of season ten

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<v Speaker 2>of Summerhouse, and really what they viewed that at it

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<v Speaker 2>was like the transitional season for the show and for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the OG cast members. And so this

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<v Speaker 2>is Lindsay still had to be on the show because

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<v Speaker 2>in the City, in the in the context of this

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<v Speaker 2>show right now, Summerhouse in the City, that doesn't exist yet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to exist once they do the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>seamless transition from the Summerhouse finale in the City premiere,

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<v Speaker 2>then it will exist. And that's where Lindsay, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>will graduate into. I think the idea was for Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda Lindsay to transition out of Summerhouse after this season,

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<v Speaker 2>so they had to still have Lindsay around like also,

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<v Speaker 2>and also she moves for she moves story forward really

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<v Speaker 2>well for this group. She'll come in every few weekends

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<v Speaker 2>and get it pop in and like get stuff out

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<v Speaker 2>in the open. That's what happened this week. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle and Carl started fighting and she got something activated.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think the idea was for them to

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<v Speaker 2>graduate into the show. I think that the West and

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda scandal, I think that has put everything kind of

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<v Speaker 2>in flux in terms of the plan for the Summerhouse universe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like also to see her come back

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<v Speaker 2>or not. You know, TMZ says she is coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>which I would really love. But if si Eric goes back,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way she's going to film with Amanda and West.

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<v Speaker 2>So like that means that they're probably off Summerhouse. So

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<v Speaker 2>does that mean that they still bring Kyle and Lindsay

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<v Speaker 2>and Carl back in some capacity? I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't but I think the original plan is uh

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not the way they're going to fully go yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, But what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you Have you seen the premiere of In the City.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not, no that that's best screener. Screener has

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<v Speaker 2>not been sent out yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, but you will.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but but I've heard that it's ready and premiere

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<v Speaker 2>is on Tuesday, so we're gonna We're gonna get it soon.

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<v Speaker 2>And and the Bravo exec said that there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a scene that was filmed recently at the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of that episode, So I don't know what that looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be a current day and then I'll go exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, but like and my guess, my guess is

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<v Speaker 2>that's Kyle and Amanda just you know, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know because Western Sierra aren't on In the City.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess cast members at least not yet. Yea, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they going to do a shina walking into the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen at sir transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, They've said that it's going to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>like a two hour event, so like and they call

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<v Speaker 2>it a backdoor pilot, So I think that's what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. I don't my my like vision of it

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<v Speaker 2>from the since the moment they announced in the city

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<v Speaker 2>that we knew was happening. Yes, my vision is they

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<v Speaker 2>show Lindsay driving back into the city. They just so

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<v Speaker 2>show Kyle and Kyle and Amanda driving back into the

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<v Speaker 2>city together like packing up from summerhouse, and they arrive

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<v Speaker 2>at their apartments and maybe there's like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the other cast members meets up with them

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<v Speaker 2>for a drink or you know, Kyle Amanda go back

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<v Speaker 2>to their apartment and like they're not in a good

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, because I love I love when they do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was all about like Jack's getting out of

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<v Speaker 2>it works exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>that was crazy. That was great. So I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>Happens Live and having opinions. I thought he was kind

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<v Speaker 2>He yeah, he's not. He's not a good reader of

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<v Speaker 2>like having unpopular opinion just to rile people up. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he Like he was like, I know she's

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<v Speaker 2>so that was a huge storyline. So it's like he

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<v Speaker 2>thing about Lindsay is that like she will shut get

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<v Speaker 1>Did either, And I like she's just like walking around

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<v Speaker 2>Know, exactly that in the game right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And then another thing that I saw today that was

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<v Speaker 1>post about how much she hates Bethany. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>the first one. She does posts all the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>how much she hates Bethany. Okay, okay, So she just

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<v Speaker 1>went on your piece of shit, you know, you scam

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit maga. You know, she just went on a rant

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<v Speaker 3>And Andy liked it so interesting and I ran right

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<v Speaker 3>to the comments and all the all the Bravo influencers

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I mean it's it's really it's so fascinating think

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<v Speaker 2>about how much that friendship has deteriorated. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>won't even say her name anymore, Like he calls her Margret.

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<v Speaker 1>Lady, Yeah, lady.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that he calls her on like the radio

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you think about he was friends. He was in

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<v Speaker 1>all those Hampton circles with Carol and Bethany and in

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<v Speaker 1>those New York circles and stuff, and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>there was that falling out at the reunion that time

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<v Speaker 1>when Carol confronted Andy, is that are you scared over too?

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<v Speaker 1>And then he was a fight with Carol for a

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<v Speaker 2>M M.

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<v Speaker 1>Carol played the long game.

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<v Speaker 2>Carol played the long game, and she knew she went

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<v Speaker 2>out and lived her life in a way that Bethany

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<v Speaker 2>thinks she's doing that. But Bethany weighs in on every

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<v Speaker 2>possible thing in the entire world, much less pop culture,

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<v Speaker 2>much less ronny, you know, like she yes, yes, she

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<v Speaker 2>talks about everything. And she I mean also like she

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<v Speaker 2>was a big part of like the quote unquote reality

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<v Speaker 2>reckoning effort a couple of years ago, and like that

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<v Speaker 2>was an effort to take Andy down and Bravo down,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And I think that that is that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that like hits very personally to them, and they' obviously

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<v Speaker 2>they get very protective over it. So like I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was sort of that was the line, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>the reality reckoning stuff. But she also, like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>she says a lot of out of pocket shit. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Bethany is like occasionally, you see, I'll see a

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<v Speaker 2>video of her pop up and I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>she kind of has a point there, or like oh

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<v Speaker 2>she's kind about this, yes, but like you know, broke

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<v Speaker 2>a broken clock, you know, twice is right twice a day,

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<v Speaker 2>but like she says so much that inevitably a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it's going to be wrong and not necessarily land well.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is, I don't really think she cares

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she doesn't care. But I mean, it is

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating that the Meredith Lynch, who I like a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>who just not only is she be like, okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>here are some facts about this company that Bethany was

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<v Speaker 1>the part of, but she's just like, you're a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of shit, narcissist, racist. I mean, she just says the

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<v Speaker 1>worst things, and I'm always like, how are you get

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<v Speaker 1>away with that? Because she never says allegedly you know right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely seems like somebody who's pretty libeless, you know, sure, yes, yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. But I think she married at the steid before.

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<v Speaker 1>She can't sue me because everything I'm saying is true

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got receist to back it up. I'm like, okay, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys aren't following Meredith Lynch. It's a fun watch.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was that there were so many things going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the last couple of days. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>they announced that Alex Murdock is getting a new case,

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<v Speaker 1>getting a new trial.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't see that. I didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, you were busy working, But that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there's a lot of Bravo stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>God, yes, and there was Bravo stuff going that was

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<v Speaker 1>announced today. And then Gibson for my people, for my

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<v Speaker 1>ninety Day fiance people, it has been announced that there

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<v Speaker 1>will be a ninety Day Con.

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<v Speaker 2>That's huge in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. They literally said it's coming and like

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<v Speaker 1>no location, no date, it's coming. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this to us. TLC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, if they're smart, they do it this year,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the off year for Bravo Con. Don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you want it to compete. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>want it to Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's a lot of crossover. And I I because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I do a lot of ninety Days

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<v Speaker 1>and I do Bravo on Thursdays, and ninety day is

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<v Speaker 1>my literal bread and butter and my life. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote to my ninety day, my TLC contact that

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<v Speaker 1>helps me with stuff, and I said, just please tell

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<v Speaker 1>me it will not be this one particular weekend in

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<v Speaker 1>October where I'm going to be in New York for

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<v Speaker 1>like a meetup that like we have put a deposit

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<v Speaker 1>down for a place like just just please tell me that.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than that, you don't have to tell me anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can guarantee you it is not that weekend

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<v Speaker 1>in October?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Love?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is that Bravo fan Fast weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that it's the same as Bravo FanFest in Charleston.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're going to be in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be in New York, So which means

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<v Speaker 1>I want you? Is that what we're finding out now?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I want to go. I need I should

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<v Speaker 2>go to fan vest. I don't know what the particular

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<v Speaker 2>is of it, but they'll send you.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll send you a press baskets.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope. So I was. I was not invited to

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<v Speaker 2>last fan Fest, so I don't know. It's a smaller event.

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<v Speaker 1>I did say they're going to have to watch what

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<v Speaker 1>Happens Lives, so it's not that small.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I love an excuse to go to Charleston, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe I'm going to be in New York that weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's going to be all announced guy soon, so

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. But anyway, they told us nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Even for those of us ninety day podcasters that have

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<v Speaker 1>all the insight, they told us nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah. And it's also like there's also a Dancing

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<v Speaker 2>with the Stars Con this year, Like there are people

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<v Speaker 2>are people are seeing how successful BRAVACN has been and

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<v Speaker 2>getting these you know, more quote unquote niche fandoms together,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, it's really smart. It's really smart, and like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's also must be exciting prospect for you to

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<v Speaker 2>like because I love and you're part of this too,

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<v Speaker 2>But like being at Brava Con with like all the

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<v Speaker 2>other creators and podcasters that are around these shows is

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<v Speaker 2>so that to me is the best part. Honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like that's the most because we know we always recording

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<v Speaker 2>with each other on zoom and like to be in

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<v Speaker 2>person with each other, like that's a I love that

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<v Speaker 2>part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved seeing you in your cute sunglasses and you're

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<v Speaker 1>so tall and handsome, and you were you were everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>Brava Con, everywhere I looked there with Skipson, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Run around that venue like a chicken with his head

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<v Speaker 2>cut off, just everywhere, all at once. Don't really sleep

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<v Speaker 2>that much that weekend. But that's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Vegas, there's stuff happened at all times. It's

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<v Speaker 2>good for business. You just gotta I just gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>for it. So I expect to see I expect you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, man at ninety eight con. You need to

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<v Speaker 2>have like a live like a go pro live streamer

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<v Speaker 2>every move.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I've been training my whole life for this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I put up. I put up the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>they send us with the rocky music, like I'm ready there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the training starts now.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I wrote to my my TLC person, So I'm stretching,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting ready. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>back into Pilate's I'm gonna, I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mentioned Ladies of London a second ago. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you had a chance to interview cast members?

424
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<v Speaker 2>I just the only person that I got pitched was Margot,

425
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<v Speaker 2>which was like, you know, it is what it is,

426
00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:31.960
<v Speaker 2>what it is with Margo. But yeah, I interviewed her.

427
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<v Speaker 2>You know, it definitely made me like her a little

428
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<v Speaker 2>bit more. But I also interviewed her, and I think

429
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<v Speaker 2>that the timing was probably intentional on like the pr

430
00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:45.799
<v Speaker 2>person's part. I'm guessing before the Mark Francis like the

431
00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:49.319
<v Speaker 2>freak thing had happened, so you know, she was she was.

432
00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:51.599
<v Speaker 2>She was already ruffling feathers on the show, of course,

433
00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:54.400
<v Speaker 2>but like not to that level, and that like the

434
00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:57.839
<v Speaker 2>accusations that were made about how she you know, what

435
00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:01.440
<v Speaker 2>she said about him. So the interview did make me

436
00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:05.759
<v Speaker 2>like appreciate her a little bit more. But also by

437
00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:07.200
<v Speaker 2>the end of the season, I was sort of like,

438
00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:09.880
<v Speaker 2>h girl, like, I don't know about this.

439
00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:13.240
<v Speaker 1>But then she had that People magazine article come out

440
00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:16.039
<v Speaker 1>that say, you know, she she knew that something was

441
00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:18.279
<v Speaker 1>off with her and her personality, and so she went

442
00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and got you know, her hormones while all out of

443
00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:22.240
<v Speaker 1>whack and everything, you know, for being the age that

444
00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:24.319
<v Speaker 1>she isn't having a baby, and then that's going to

445
00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:27.799
<v Speaker 1>make your hormones go crazy. So I felt like, so

446
00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Mark Francis was on Watch What Happens Live, and he

447
00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.559
<v Speaker 1>had nothing nice to say about her, only bad things

448
00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to say. And then that article came out the next day,

449
00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:39.119
<v Speaker 1>which I think was a little calculated to make him

450
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<v Speaker 1>look bad.

451
00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, she knows, she knows she's doing she's trying

452
00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.599
<v Speaker 2>to say face, which you know she's entitled to do so,

453
00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:49.440
<v Speaker 2>but you know, no reason to forget what she's said. Comment.

454
00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. And also like that final scene where she

455
00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:56.160
<v Speaker 2>sits down with him and she's like, you want to

456
00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:58.359
<v Speaker 2>have sex with me, That's what's going on here, And

457
00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what are you talking about? Like literally,

458
00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:01.759
<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about?

459
00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I think her whole thing is like, why are you

460
00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:05.480
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with me? Like I think you want to fuck me?

461
00:22:05.720 --> 00:22:07.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, and I think all of that

462
00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:10.960
<v Speaker 1>is like her trying being funny, like he's obsessed with me,

463
00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:13.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's not funny. And also when she called him freak,

464
00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:16.599
<v Speaker 1>and also when she said you're so weird prance away.

465
00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't catch that one. Yeah, oh somebody else.

466
00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I was talking who said they didn't Oh, Amy Phillips.

467
00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.799
<v Speaker 1>She was like, I didn't catch that. I go go back.

468
00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:28.559
<v Speaker 1>She goes, You're so weird, and he was walking off

469
00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:30.319
<v Speaker 1>and she said prance away.

470
00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's bad, it's bad, it's not.

471
00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

472
00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:38.559
<v Speaker 2>So in my interview with her, I was I was

473
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<v Speaker 2>because I think her friendship with Martha is like kind

474
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<v Speaker 2>of intriguing in like their backstory. They clearly like I've

475
00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:46.279
<v Speaker 2>done like crazy things together, you know, And so I

476
00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:48.519
<v Speaker 2>was she was telling me about like their early years

477
00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:50.480
<v Speaker 2>together and she's like, yeah, we were both modeling, you know.

478
00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I was doing Hard versus Bizarre and this, that and

479
00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:55.720
<v Speaker 2>the other, and Martha was doing the Town and Country.

480
00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:58.880
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't take it as like shady. But then

481
00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:03.519
<v Speaker 2>after the season end and Martha DMed me and she

482
00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.079
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, I heard Margo say that, you know,

483
00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:10.400
<v Speaker 2>she was doing Harper's Bizarre and I was doing Town

484
00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:13.400
<v Speaker 2>and Country. Let the record show that I was doing

485
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Italian Vogue and I was the face of the Royal Ascot.

486
00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. I love that woman.

487
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I love Martha. And she posted something with John Hill

488
00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and John Hill's dog and something and I wrote under

489
00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>it like, oh my god, John, I'm so excited you

490
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.559
<v Speaker 1>got to meet Martha. And she wrote under it and

491
00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:35.759
<v Speaker 1>did like a little hay and I was like, well,

492
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that's it, love, That's done. And I loved how and

493
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.599
<v Speaker 1>watch What Happens Live. She was so honest because Andy

494
00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:44.559
<v Speaker 1>was asking her like how has this been for you?

495
00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:46.599
<v Speaker 1>And she goes, are you kidding? Me, it's been great,

496
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>She says, to get five hundred DMS today for people

497
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.799
<v Speaker 1>telling you how much they love you, like totally, and

498
00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I love I love that honesty, not to be like, oh,

499
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:56.799
<v Speaker 1>it's been overwhelming or I just like that honesty if like,

500
00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't want to get five hundred DMS today telling

501
00:23:58.920 --> 00:23:59.799
<v Speaker 1>you're great? You know?

502
00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:02.519
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I think that that was part of what

503
00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I found really refreshing about the show overall, which was that, like,

504
00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and I posted a clip of me actually talking about

505
00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:11.680
<v Speaker 2>this on my podcast where I was like, it feels

506
00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.279
<v Speaker 2>like or like the vibe is like, it's not Housewives

507
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>or like a new younger show on Brava where it

508
00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:19.799
<v Speaker 2>feels like everybody's there to get more famous and get

509
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of brand deals and start a brand and

510
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:24.400
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. Like that's not the that's

511
00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:25.799
<v Speaker 2>not the vibe of the show. The vibe of the

512
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:27.400
<v Speaker 2>show to me as a bunch of people who like,

513
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.680
<v Speaker 2>we're like why not to sign up for a reality

514
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>show like for shits and giggles basically, And I firmly

515
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:36.160
<v Speaker 2>sort of stand by that being the vibe. But then she,

516
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 2>of course, it sounds like she's pretty online She commented

517
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:41.359
<v Speaker 2>under that she was like, no, please, I need the

518
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.000
<v Speaker 2>brand deals. I really want brand deals, And I was like,

519
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:45.599
<v Speaker 2>I'd love her to get at brand deals as well.

520
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 2>But my point still stands in that it feels like

521
00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>an authentic group of people who aren't there to climb

522
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:54.319
<v Speaker 2>a ladder, you know.

523
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>It feels like a very show. Yeah, a very different

524
00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>show than anything we've seen, and I loved it. So

525
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>they did, they did some they did some announcements, but

526
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>they didn't announce that show.

527
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Ladies of London was not announced. I think I

528
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 2>think it's it had just ended and it's in the

529
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 2>press release. It was still called out as like recently finale.

530
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I think was the was the wording they used with

531
00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills, and Beverly Hills was the top rated show

532
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:22.400
<v Speaker 2>on Bravo, So it being lumped in with that does

533
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.319
<v Speaker 2>not make me worried about it. I just think they're

534
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:28.039
<v Speaker 2>not rushing into rushing into it. And also it's like,

535
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>I think they could film Ladies of London whenever. It's

536
00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>not like it's like tied to like a specific time

537
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.559
<v Speaker 2>of year or whatever. Like I think that, like them,

538
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm hopeful about it. Basically, even though it wasn't officially

539
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:40.839
<v Speaker 2>renewed yet.

540
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:43.759
<v Speaker 1>Personally, I'm hopeful about it. Just because they had so

541
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:45.759
<v Speaker 1>many cast members go and watch What Happens live. I

542
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>think that's always a big sign.

543
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Mark Martha got this huge New York Times profile,

544
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.319
<v Speaker 2>like at the very end of the season. They like

545
00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:55.279
<v Speaker 2>this show. Like I don't know how big it was

546
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:57.200
<v Speaker 2>in the ratings, but I think that they feel they

547
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>feel hopeful about it in general, and like it was

548
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.319
<v Speaker 2>a word of mouth wise, like it was all positive

549
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.359
<v Speaker 2>about this show. Like nobody I've talked to who's watched

550
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 2>the show that didn't like it. I think it's amazing.

551
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Agree, Agree, And we covered it and generally I don't

552
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.519
<v Speaker 1>cover a Bravo show like a recap style, right, but

553
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 1>it happened to fall into a spot where the show

554
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 1>we normally cover Ladies No Love after lock Up, which

555
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.279
<v Speaker 1>we call mug Shot Monday, that show was off, so

556
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.519
<v Speaker 1>we were like, we put in Monarch Monday instead.

557
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

558
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>People people loved it. People loved it.

559
00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's an amazing show. It's a really it's a

560
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>great reality show, and it's and it feels retro in

561
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 2>a good way.

562
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yes, yes, yes, okay the Valley. I know The

563
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Valley isn't hitting on all cylinders as it has been

564
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.319
<v Speaker 1>in the past, but I'm like you, I'm a complete

565
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 1>thisst I'll never stop watching it. Yeah, what are your

566
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.799
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on what's happening with The Valley.

567
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.200
<v Speaker 2>It's hard because it's like it has the less the

568
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>lighter that viewers were wanting without Jax being there as

569
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>this big clout over the show. It's finally what people wanted,

570
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 2>but in reality it's not fully working. Like it does

571
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like there's something missing. Yeah, I also kind of

572
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like we're like still in this like Kristin, Janet

573
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Britney Hamster Wheel, you know, and I'm kind of like

574
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 2>over this kind of dynamic and like just loop that

575
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 2>we're on with that. Like I kind of feel like

576
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.759
<v Speaker 2>they need to just like learn to coexist with Janet

577
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and not you know, like like it's I just don't

578
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 2>believe she's the villain that everyone's painting her out to

579
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.559
<v Speaker 2>be and so like, yeah, she's like she's bad at

580
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.400
<v Speaker 2>apologies and doesn't really apologize and always wants something back,

581
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>and like it's not very good at the reading the

582
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>room and all that stuff. Can be true, but like

583
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>she's not this evil person that I think a lot

584
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 2>of people kind of think of her as. So I'm

585
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 2>just kind of like move on, like let's change up

586
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>the dynamic on the show. Like there's just something repetitive

587
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 2>about it and also something missing. And yeah, it's hard.

588
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I just it's long. I hate it. It's just like

589
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not excited to watch it at all.

590
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that Danny and Nia thing is so dark.

591
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 2>It is.

592
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>It's dark. And when he said this last week, when

593
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>he said when she was like I'm ready to ride

594
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>rides and all that, and he said, you're being performative,

595
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:27.839
<v Speaker 1>and she said what And then she tries to then

596
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>backpedal that to be like this is Funnia, You've just

597
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 1>forgotten because we have four kids. He forgot it's like

598
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 1>two days ago. Like what do you mean he forgot?

599
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so that was her trying to say, like,

600
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:42.119
<v Speaker 1>don't saying I'm being performative because I'm fun. And then

601
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>he's bitching at her about swaddling the baby. Why two

602
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>times she was trying to He's yelling.

603
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>At her, Oh my god, He's like, really, I mean

604
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I get to my own home. I've been on the

605
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Danny sucks train since season one, and he yelled at

606
00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>her when he yelled at her at that dinner table

607
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 2>when he was drunk on the group trip like that,

608
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, there's something there and these and

609
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 2>she's a pageant girl, he's an actor. They don't want

610
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 2>it come up there. They try to cover it up

611
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>so much. And I think they were able to cover

612
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 2>it up for a couple of years there because Jack's

613
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>was there and he took up a lot of the

614
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:16.880
<v Speaker 2>auction in the room and he was the big bad wolf,

615
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>rightfully so. But now he's not there anymore, and there's

616
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:23.440
<v Speaker 2>no other place for them to hide, and I think

617
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Danny's really sinister and he's showing his cards, and Nia

618
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.720
<v Speaker 2>isn't authentic. She tries to hide it all so grown

619
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 2>under the rug. Doesn't want to show any sort of

620
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>negative parts of hers, of her other than like postpartum,

621
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 2>which I think is obviously very legitimate to show, but

622
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>like in terms of her relationship, she doesn't want to

623
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 2>show anything bad about it. And that's also part of her,

624
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I think, being performative and wanting to be like, oh,

625
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>like you know what we saw at the in San Diego.

626
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:55.160
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, there, that's bleak.

627
00:29:55.200 --> 00:30:00.279
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's bleak. And I didn't like him mean

628
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 1>to her when she was trying to eat. Nope, you know,

629
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, and I understand probably for her,

630
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>it's very important for her torself to get her back

631
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to the way she looks because all of that is

632
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of ingrained in her how she feels about herself. Yeah,

633
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 1>but you guys had four kids in four years, and

634
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that's rough. That's going to be rough on anybody. And that,

635
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>oh that's so. I can't understand. Who was I talking

636
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to you about Danny and Nia? It was Amy Phelips.

637
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to remember because Amy Phllips lives in Santa Clarita.

638
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh she does.

639
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>And when they said on the episode, when they were

640
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 1>like when Zach was like, I took my dysentery pills

641
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to go to Santa Clair, like it's so far. I

642
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>sent her a text, I said, are you able to

643
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>get amazon to day in Santa Clarita? And she wroent back,

644
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? Because she hasn't just just

645
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 1>just yes or no, And she goes, are you sending

646
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:58.759
<v Speaker 1>me a present? And I said, no, I just want

647
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:00.599
<v Speaker 1>to know, do you get Amma on two day in

648
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Santa Glarita. She's like yes. Then she saw the episode

649
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>two was like, you.

650
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 2>Bitch, and that is so funny. Oh my god. She's like,

651
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like the Santa Clarita stray is really happening. Like

652
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a they're not painting a very nice picture

653
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.079
<v Speaker 2>of it. I've never been there.

654
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>But it looks nice to me. It looks like where

655
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I would probably live and lived in La I'd have

656
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 1>to live an hour outside, you know.

657
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.359
<v Speaker 2>I think it looks great. It's just like he he

658
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>seems like a very selfish person in their relationship, and.

659
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>She didn't want to go there.

660
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.559
<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to go there, and like, not just

661
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 2>like because it's far, but also like, think about them

662
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.200
<v Speaker 2>filming this show. The commute they have to do to

663
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>film every scene they do that's not their house. It's

664
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.799
<v Speaker 2>over an hour to get anywhere to film with their

665
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>other castmates. And it's like that with four under four

666
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is that is that is really hard. Really.

667
00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it is near their church. Kate Casey,

668
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 1>our friend, did a deep dive on their church on

669
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:06.759
<v Speaker 1>her on her Patreon.

670
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>And that was.

671
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a little kind of it reminds me a lot

672
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 1>of that church, like a mega church that the one

673
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that Justin Bieber belonged to. It reminds me.

674
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Of that like New Age got it okay, but.

675
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Some very backwards thoughts. Freak sure, So that doesn't make

676
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 1>me happy. Are you loving the new season of Atlanta?

677
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm really liking it and I think that especially this

678
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Dallas trip has been really fun. I think it's been

679
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>like listen, it's I think with Atlanta more so than

680
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>like any other franchise right now, people are so hung

681
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>up on the good old glory days of that show,

682
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 2>when Nini was around, when Keny was around, and those

683
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 2>were those were like some of the best housewives ever

684
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 2>to happen. Like those seasons, yes, but but like you,

685
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:05.319
<v Speaker 2>it's also like an impossible standard to hold it too

686
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.039
<v Speaker 2>without those women there, Like Nini is not coming back,

687
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Kenya is not there, so we have to like embrace

688
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>what we have. And I think that they've done a

689
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>really good job of rebuilding the show, Like the past

690
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 2>couple of seasons have been like pretty dire of I agree.

691
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.119
<v Speaker 1>The last couple of seasons, I was like, I don't

692
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 1>know these.

693
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 2>People, right, but like, I'm sorry, but yeah, this season,

694
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, I'm watching at the dinner table, Porsche, Phedra,

695
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Cynthia Drew like they're Angela, Like these people are good housewives.

696
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 2>It's fun to watch them together. I'm laughing a lot

697
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.480
<v Speaker 2>watching the show now, and we're having old school obviously

698
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 2>sparring back with the with the Pinky and Angela's scene.

699
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Even since Cynthia in this last episode, whether she was

700
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>having no time for like Pinky and Kelly and them,

701
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 2>like I was living for that. I think it's I

702
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>think that's having a really great season so far. I'm

703
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm really happy be about it.

704
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 1>I think the whole thing with the room being dirty

705
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and Cynthia's like, obviously nobody wants to be in a

706
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>dirty room. Obviously nobody wants to be responsible for somebody

707
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 1>having a dirty, dirty room. I'm doing everything I can

708
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>to fix it. I'm so sorry. I was like the

709
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>dirty room is like, yeah.

710
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:20.199
<v Speaker 2>That dirty. It's also not even that dirty.

711
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't even that dirty. But I mean, I think

712
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Shemia is you know, I think Smia probably has several

713
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>housekeepers that live in her home.

714
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Sure, but it's also like, and I posted this on threads,

715
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I think, but I was like, part of the reason

716
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 2>why this that part's like not landing is because like

717
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>there is a way on Housewives to complain about your

718
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 2>room on a group trip in a way that's like

719
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.559
<v Speaker 2>funny and kind of campy and like you're complaining, but

720
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 2>it's just like in a more I don't know, like

721
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 2>leaning in. They're just being such negative nancies about it

722
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and just like it's so energy suck like vibes, and

723
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:57.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, oh, like it's so downer and it's like.

724
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Refusing to come to dinner because their room was dirty?

725
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? And then they watched it from

726
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the side of the pool, and then but then they

727
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:04.719
<v Speaker 2>still come back up when they realize it's going to

728
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>be a big moment once they hear all the yelling

729
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.159
<v Speaker 2>and they want to be on It's like, that was

730
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>so silly to me. And then Ky Michelle, who I

731
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 2>really like. I think Michelle is a great addition to

732
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 2>the show. But her refusing to come to dinner because

733
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 2>her glam didn't show up, but then still filming with

734
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Shemia and Kelly, Yeah, you're still on camera. The dinner's

735
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 2>at the house on the balcony like relax.

736
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't love ka Michelle.

737
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you.

738
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, she rubs me the wrong way. I could end

739
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.119
<v Speaker 1>up from do you like Pinky?

740
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

741
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I do like thinky Oh, you do like thinky Okay,

742
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 1>I just like.

743
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Her whole vibe, like her.

744
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I just like the Okay, we have to end with

745
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>talk of Rhode Island. Okay, I wasn't caught up, and

746
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.519
<v Speaker 1>now I'm caught up. I had a real problem, Gibson,

747
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 1>A real problem with their faces, okay, in that I

748
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 1>could not I could not get a rosie from m Kelsey.

749
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I could. I had to make a spreadsheet with little

750
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 1>photos bullet points by their names, and then started Gibson.

751
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm devoted. I had to start again. I started to

752
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>get into episode one. After that was spreadsheet together, and

753
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>then consulted it as I watched it, so by the

754
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>time I got to three, I didn't have to look

755
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>at my spreadsheet anymore.

756
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I love that for you you are you're helping yourself

757
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>out with this like that is and listen, you're not

758
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the only one to have some some you know, tough

759
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:36.280
<v Speaker 2>times to apart. Yes, and also doesn't what doesn't help

760
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the situation, and it's actually a good problem to have,

761
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 2>which is that they have like waterboarded us with details

762
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:48.559
<v Speaker 2>about all these women's backstories and how they're interconnected with

763
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.199
<v Speaker 2>each other. You know, who slept with whose husband before

764
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.559
<v Speaker 2>they were married, and I went to high school with you,

765
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>so like it's hard. That makes it actually harder to

766
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:57.880
<v Speaker 2>keep track of who was who because it's like, wait

767
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>a second, so was it was Alicia who was new

768
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.159
<v Speaker 2>x y Z person and went to communion with them

769
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 2>before they dated his sister? Like it's like I don't

770
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>remember any of those details because we weren't either inundated.

771
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they could have, they could have slid some of

772
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>that in towards the end or in season two, because

773
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the season one, I'm already just trying to figure out

774
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:19.679
<v Speaker 1>who you are and who your husband is or your

775
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend or whatever, and then to slide in your husband's

776
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>brother slept with Alisha or where, I'm like, huh, I'm

777
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to insult my spreadsheet again and then I'm

778
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>but I'm loving it, and I want to know that

779
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>in real time, Rula is not with her husband, but

780
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>she still is, right.

781
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 2>She still is. Yeah, he was. He was there to

782
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 2>support her on Watch Happens Live after the episode, at

783
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the derby or at the polo match. So, you know,

784
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 2>it feels like one of those things where it's like

785
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>they're putting up this front. They're gonna try as hard

786
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>as they can for as long as they can until

787
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't hold up. But also we know from the

788
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>mid season trailer that there is footage and they do

789
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about on the show when he was arrested for

790
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 2>tracking her in the fall.

791
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Why does he care where she is and he's supposed

792
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>to be looking for his girlfriend.

793
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's it's it's we knew that. We knew that,

794
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 2>we knew why Rula would want to track her husband.

795
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Why is he trying to track her?

796
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 1>We don't know, right, she just seems so meek, you know,

797
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:27.519
<v Speaker 1>she just seems so like everything's fine.

798
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, like it's like it's like, try harder to

799
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 2>make us believe that because I'm not believing this.

800
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I just have a lot of personality from

801
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 1>her other than her husband's a cheater, you know.

802
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that her I think her appeal is

803
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 2>this story, is this marriage, and even her talking about

804
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:48.599
<v Speaker 2>why she didn't go to the Rhode Island mansions, and

805
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:51.800
<v Speaker 2>she's like talking about you know, she she felt she

806
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>felt faint and then her stomach started to her and

807
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 2>then she had to be, you know, brought to the

808
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.519
<v Speaker 2>emergency room. And then it was like this crazy It

809
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:03.320
<v Speaker 2>was kind of giving Tom's house is broken into, you know,

810
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 2>the famous Erica Jane soliloquy. You know, so she's full

811
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 2>of shit, But I.

812
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Didn't believe a word of it, because let me tell

813
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you what I have been in that situation where I've

814
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.119
<v Speaker 1>been in the hospital and had all these tests and

815
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what's wrong with me, and I

816
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't look that good. I look like I've been hit

817
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.880
<v Speaker 1>by a sweaty truck. So you know, you don't just

818
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:26.519
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, You just don't look that

819
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>good if you have had so many illnesses that you've

820
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>had the MRIs and the caskins and they're trying to

821
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>figure out what's wrong with you, you don't look that pretty

822
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 1>in your bed, right right right.

823
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 2>She was like full glam, full beat, and you know

824
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 2>that the whole thing about what really happened with them

825
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.079
<v Speaker 2>leaving before the polo match and then coming.

826
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Back right, Well, no, tell me. I mean what they

827
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>said was that he was he went and did something

828
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 1>with his girlfriend. But what's the story.

829
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so she was threatening to she was threatening to

830
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 2>show up to filming apparently, and Kelsey sort.

831
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Of the girl, the mistress.

832
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>The mistress, and so the Kelsey sort of got to

833
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 2>got was insinuating this on while Chapman's Live, and there

834
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 2>was a whole social media post somewhere about it. Apparently

835
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Allegedly the phone call was from the mistress actually, and

836
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 2>she was threatening to show up to the polo match

837
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>because she knew they were filming, probably be a Joe Ellen,

838
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and he had to put a stop to it. He

839
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 2>couldn't show up and like she couldn't show up and

840
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<v Speaker 2>like blow it all up on camera basically, So he

841
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<v Speaker 2>drove and like I guess calmed her down or whatever.

842
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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows exactly what happened, but he was with her apparently,

843
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<v Speaker 2>that's the that's the but Rula was with him when

844
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<v Speaker 2>he lied no member. She she called them from her house,

845
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<v Speaker 2>so he dropped her off, yes, uh huh, and then

846
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<v Speaker 2>picked her back up. That's that's the going theory and story.

847
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And then some but would Rula like ask his mom

848
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and dad like, are you sick? Are you at that?

849
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<v Speaker 2>I think I think Rula knew it was fake.

850
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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, she knew that.

851
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<v Speaker 2>This is I think she was in on like the

852
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<v Speaker 2>cover up, like don't let this crazy woman come blow

853
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<v Speaker 2>up our spot on the on the show. Okay you go,

854
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 2>do you go deal with this, figure your shit out,

855
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 2>and then come picking back up and won't go back

856
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 2>to the polo match. That's what that's the vibe I'm getting.

857
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Because it was I listen, I again couldn't figure out

858
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Joellen from a hole in the wall. But then once

859
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 1>like once I got who she was. I love her.

860
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I love how she walked up to him and he's

861
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>looking at his phone and she goes, oh, are you

862
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:32.320
<v Speaker 1>looking at Instagram because she had just seen that boast?

863
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>She goes you checking Instagram?

864
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 2>She last and I love it.

865
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I love her.

866
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Love it.

867
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:41.079
<v Speaker 1>That old story this past week about her mother just

868
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>shuffling it off and her to explain like, I didn't

869
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.800
<v Speaker 1>have bad grades, I wasn't a whore. I didn't do this,

870
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do that. My mother just was scared that

871
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I was pretty and I was going to become that

872
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:52.679
<v Speaker 1>so she set me off to all these like abusive

873
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>boarding skulls. I was like, crazy, what is that?

874
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:56.679
<v Speaker 2>One? Was that one of them for a year her

875
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 2>entire freshman year of high school. And then the only

876
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<v Speaker 2>reason why the mom brought her back home and she

877
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 2>was thought she was suddenly, you know, good to be

878
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:05.599
<v Speaker 2>back at home, is because they threatened to take custody

879
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 2>away from her. The government like that's.

880
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Great, that's that's trauma.

881
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Wow. And the sister was also at one of these places.

882
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I think they said she got sent first, so that's like,

883
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 2>that's that's that'll really stay with you.

884
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, yeah, oh my god. Well I'm going

885
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to tell you I'm so glad that I'm caught up

886
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 1>on it because I was like lagging behind because I

887
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get their faces. And I was like, what I

888
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.039
<v Speaker 1>need is like a whole day and a half where

889
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't have other ninety day stuff to do to

890
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 1>really grill down on this. And I did. I went

891
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to the beach. I was all by myself, which was

892
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:42.519
<v Speaker 1>like the joy of my life had I just had

893
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:44.519
<v Speaker 1>it on my phone walking around everything I was doing

894
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and just watched all of it. After I got my

895
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>spreadsheet together.

896
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>There we go. That is I love that. I would

897
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:54.280
<v Speaker 2>love to have seen that, the footage of that happening.

898
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.079
<v Speaker 2>You just you know, at the beach doing your thing, just.

899
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Clipping off at Instagram into my redsheet and then bullet points,

900
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>bullet points you know, Alicia, not married, been together, making.

901
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:10.320
<v Speaker 2>A spreadsheet on your Patreon with people.

902
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Well some of my notes. Maybe you know.

903
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 2>The way that I have to unpublishable.

904
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, just like the way I describe people's faces

905
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 1>is the way for me to remember it.

906
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Got it?

907
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Sure, I can kind of like right away, Rosie gave

908
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>me Kate Middleton vibes.

909
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I see that, Rosie the little the newscaster.

910
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she gave me. I thought she was kind of

911
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>like Kate Middleton. And then I had to think, like

912
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.039
<v Speaker 1>I can remember Ashley I because eye is long and

913
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Ashley has a long nose. Like these are the ways

914
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 1>after this is my childhood.

915
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you need to do to remember that's what you did,

916
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 2>remember like it's it's your board.

917
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I got everybody, you know, I got everybody know you know,

918
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Like I put for for Liz, I put like two

919
00:43:58.360 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Tan Dolores.

920
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, uh yeah, yeah, these.

921
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Are things three kids, not hers, but don't say that.

922
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 1>You know that kind of thing.

923
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:08.960
<v Speaker 2>That kind of thing, ye kind of.

924
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Thing, Gibson. Tell everybody where they can find your podcast.

925
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>You guys, Gibson. I don't know how he does it.

926
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>He always has the best interviews. He's at every event.

927
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I've told him a million times. I am a short

928
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 1>training ride away. If you ever need a plus one,

929
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm right on that train. I will be there. I

930
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>will be there. Gibson gets invited to everything. So by

931
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the way, if you can ever get invited to a

932
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 1>DC thing, if you don't contact me, we're going to

933
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 1>be in a fight.

934
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, we weren't friends. We weren't friends yet when

935
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I the only big Bravo thing I've ever done in

936
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:49.079
<v Speaker 2>DC was like the season six premiere of Real Housewives

937
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 2>of Potomac. I like moderated a panel for them down

938
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>on the wharf, but they I don't know why, just

939
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 2>that season they did like a big DC thing. But

940
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.760
<v Speaker 2>otherwise I feel there's never really been that much in DC.

941
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:04.639
<v Speaker 2>But hopefully for Potomac we got something next season or something. Okay, well, okay.

942
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Now tell everybody where they could find you in all

943
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:07.840
<v Speaker 1>your great interviews and everything.

944
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Of course, my podcast is called Gabbing with GiB You

945
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 2>can find it wherever you get pink shade. You can

946
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>follow me on any social media platform at Gibsonoma or

947
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:20.800
<v Speaker 2>at Gabbing with GiB where I clip out my interviews

948
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>and stuff and post all my threads and all that

949
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. And yeah, that's that's it. I always

950
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 2>love chatting with you, Mary Payne. This is You're always

951
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 2>such a it's it brightens my day, honest.

952
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 1>Gibson is so good on threads, you guys. I got

953
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>to get better at it. I'm just you know, I'm

954
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to, like, I'm so scared of Twitter that I'm

955
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to.

956
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Like no, and then threads is th Threads is like

957
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.840
<v Speaker 2>a definitely like a there's definitely some crazies on there,

958
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:49.400
<v Speaker 2>and like it's it can be a frustrated place, as

959
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>any social media platform can be. But also it kind

960
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 2>of feels like old Twitter and that like a lot

961
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:57.880
<v Speaker 2>of the Bra celebrities are active on there right now,

962
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>and like it's you're not gonna it's it's not really

963
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of Maga trolls but popping popping up

964
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 2>very often, so it's a little bit of a safer place,

965
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I think.

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00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:11.119
<v Speaker 1>So okay, I like, all right, well i'm gonna, I'm gonna.

967
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to do it now. I'm trying. Listen,

968
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm a lady.

969
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Certain it's all we can do. We can try working.

970
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm working, okay. Everybody, make sure you're following Gibson and

971
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>make sure you're following me at Pink Shade Pod. Thank you,

972
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.