Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it started hour number two. Here
Speaker 2: on a Thursday afternoon, I feel like the weekend's already
Speaker 2: here because we got football tonight, some college action, not
Speaker 2: a big game, but Thursday night football, Patriots and the Jets,
Speaker 2: And of course we're just a couple of days away
Speaker 2: from the Louisville Cardinals taken on Georgia Tech in their
Speaker 2: first test, and then of course at Kentucky they play Ohio.
Speaker 2: I think it is and you know, not much of
Speaker 2: not much interest in this game, of course, unless you're
Speaker 2: a Kentucky fan, which I totally understand. It's your team
Speaker 2: and it is a chance for them to get a win,
Speaker 2: but it probably won't do much to kind of take
Speaker 2: away the bad taste in your mouth after the last
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. But no doubt about it. College football
Speaker 2: seasons here, the NFL season is here, and that makes
Speaker 2: me a very very happy man. I'm a little distracted
Speaker 2: here as we come back from break because I was
Speaker 2: talking to a friend, an acquaintance that is big Louisville fan,
Speaker 2: that hit me up last week about something that they
Speaker 2: wanted to they wanted to offer, and I'm thinking, if
Speaker 2: you can make this happen, it's great. Well, I just
Speaker 2: got official confirmation that it is happening, and I'll figure
Speaker 2: out how we're going to do it. But I've got
Speaker 2: four tickets to the Notre Dame Louisville game up in
Speaker 2: South Bend next week. Then I'm going to give away
Speaker 2: on the show. I'll do it next week. So I
Speaker 2: don't know how we're gonna give them away, but I
Speaker 2: did just get you know, I never want to mention
Speaker 2: something like that and unless I know we can actually
Speaker 2: do it. But I have the tickets myself. Now. Unfortunately
Speaker 2: they're not in the Louisville section, but that's okay. It's
Speaker 2: four free tickets to go see Louisville and Notre Dame
Speaker 2: and hopefully, you know, as a Louisville fan, I'm hopeful
Speaker 2: that it'll be Louisville with an unefeated record and a
Speaker 2: chance to go pick up to go pick up their
Speaker 2: second ever victory up there in South Bend. All right,
Speaker 2: let's bring him in. He's Kent Spencer from w h
Speaker 2: AS eleven, joining us here on Sports Talk seven to
Speaker 2: ninety Ken, how are we doing, brother?
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Well.
Speaker 2: I'm very happy to hear that, and I will start.
Speaker 2: Let's just start with the Cards here. If you I don't,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm a fraud if I say this
Speaker 2: is a huge game with Georgia Tech coming to town
Speaker 2: on Saturday, because it really isn't in the grand scheme
Speaker 2: of things when it comes to the college football landscape
Speaker 2: this weekend, and even for Louisville. I mean, every game
Speaker 2: counts in conference play, and you obviously want to win
Speaker 2: as many games as possible, and you only have twelve
Speaker 2: of them. But how would you describe this matchup as
Speaker 2: we as we get set to see this team tested
Speaker 2: for the first time.
Speaker 3: No, look, I mean I think it's a I think
Speaker 3: it's a critically important game for the Cards to be.
Speaker 3: To be quite honest with you, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: you have to be able to take care of business
Speaker 3: at home and especially against you know, teams that there
Speaker 3: might be some similarities there or you might you know,
Speaker 3: everybody kind of feels that you're better than on paper,
Speaker 3: So you've got to be able to kind of take
Speaker 3: care of business at home, and so you know, for Louisville,
Speaker 3: you know, to accomplish what they want to accomplish, you know,
Speaker 3: like like the road isn't completely easy for them, you know,
Speaker 3: so so games like this are are kind of must
Speaker 3: haves and and games that you want to put in
Speaker 3: your in your back pocket going forward. So you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm to be quite honest, like I have been impressive,
Speaker 3: impressed by what I've seen from from Louisville against inferior competition.
Speaker 3: I want to see how that translates to a team
Speaker 3: in their conference that that's played some good football so
Speaker 3: far this year.
Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like, even though he has no control
Speaker 2: over it, that that Jeff Brown isn't a big fan
Speaker 2: of how the schedules set up this year with Indiana
Speaker 2: dropping out, so they've got Jacksonville State added at the
Speaker 2: last minute, and then a bye week in week three,
Speaker 2: which is just weird. I mean, again, it's out of
Speaker 2: his control. I think his team's gonna come ready to play.
Speaker 2: But just in every every every since I've heard him
Speaker 2: since following their Jacksonville State victory, his press comments earlier
Speaker 2: this week, and even a little bit of his Coaches
Speaker 2: Show last night, like this, this is not ideal for him.
Speaker 3: I don't think no, I think he hated this bye
Speaker 3: week with the fire of a thousand sons, well said
Speaker 3: I And I think that I think that he hated
Speaker 3: you know, having you know, you know, like back to
Speaker 3: back layups and then a bye week, and you know,
Speaker 3: before you get into kind of the meeting, it's late.
Speaker 2: September and you've had no real I mean your best
Speaker 2: test has been your scrimmages in camp, i'd say.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. And so yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I don't think that I don't think he's completely
Speaker 3: comfortable with that. And and mainly because you know, you
Speaker 3: want some juice with your guys, and you know what,
Speaker 3: to be quite honest with you, you know, now, don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong. You know, in this day and age of
Speaker 3: college football, you know, guys are a little older at times,
Speaker 3: but you know, even the like they're still kids and
Speaker 3: they don't you know, fully understand sometimes the importance of
Speaker 3: you know, kind of punch the clock each and every
Speaker 3: single day. And so you know, they that's.
Speaker 2: Not just kids, that's humans, Ken, that's me.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean they take things for granted, and so like,
Speaker 3: is he maybe in the back of his mind, like,
Speaker 3: is he worried a little bit that you know, they
Speaker 3: may have it may have been too easy for him,
Speaker 3: and he's worried about how they're going to come out
Speaker 3: of the gates on Saturday. Probably, you know, And you know,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of times these guys worry about
Speaker 3: a lot of things. But yeah, no, I don't think
Speaker 3: he likes this schedule. I think he wishes he had
Speaker 3: better tune ups before he started conference play. But you
Speaker 3: know what, Look, this is the this is the hand
Speaker 3: they were dealt and so they got to play the cards.
Speaker 2: What do you make of this Georgia Tech team? Not
Speaker 2: that you've been focusing on them specifically, but Brett Key's
Speaker 2: pretty impressive to me. I think he's done a good
Speaker 2: job of being able to really convince his guys that
Speaker 2: backs against the wall, they're doubted. Every coach wants to
Speaker 2: give their team locker you know, bulletin board material in
Speaker 2: the locker room and tell them that they're doubted. But
Speaker 2: I think he's he's shown in his brief time as
Speaker 2: a head coach that when they're big underdogs, he's not
Speaker 2: only going to cover, They're gonna find a way to
Speaker 2: outright win some games. They've never lost back to back
Speaker 2: games with him as a head coach there. I think
Speaker 2: from a personnel standpoint, they've got They've got some dudes,
Speaker 2: so uh, they have been tested to some extent. Their
Speaker 2: Florida State victory doesn't look as good now as it
Speaker 2: did when it happened, but still it's it's it's a
Speaker 2: it's a victory against an ACC team, and I actually
Speaker 2: am trying I give them a little bit of the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt with Syracuse because they were This
Speaker 2: team's played four games right now, no bye week because
Speaker 2: they played Week zero, unlike most teams. So you're not
Speaker 2: sure if you know a whole lot about this this
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech squad. But I would not be shocked if
Speaker 2: we get to the end of the year, even though
Speaker 2: they have a very challenging schedule, but they still are
Speaker 2: a top five ACC team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, let me let me just say this.
Speaker 3: I think, Hey, I think this is a I think
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech is an extremely gritty team. Like whatever you're
Speaker 3: gonna get against Georgia Tech. From from what I've seen,
Speaker 3: you know, even from last year's game to to what
Speaker 3: they are, you know so far this year, like whatever
Speaker 3: you're gonna get against them, you're gonna have to earn it.
Speaker 2: And they look like they're coach by a former offensive lineman, right, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think James King has gotten a lot better from
Speaker 3: the time that we saw him last year. So I
Speaker 3: think he's improved as a quarterback. And you're one hundred
Speaker 3: percent right, Like, you know, when the Florida State win happened,
Speaker 3: it looked a heck of a lot better than it
Speaker 3: does now. Syrahcuse, what what is Syracuse? Like? You know,
Speaker 3: they've had a couple of games, but that's kind of
Speaker 3: been it. You know, we'll figure out, you know what
Speaker 3: that that Syracuse game was, you know, as the Orange
Speaker 3: get farther down the road. But I still think like
Speaker 3: this is going to be like you're going to have
Speaker 3: to earn this victory on Saturday if you're Louisville, because
Speaker 3: I don't think Georgia Tech is just going to give.
Speaker 2: It to you, no doubt about it. Kin Spencer's our
Speaker 2: guest joining us here on Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2: Let's switch gears to the Kentucky side of things, a
Speaker 2: much different conversation this week. Well, I don't know it's
Speaker 2: different because I don't know if anybody expected Kentucky to
Speaker 2: be in a position to potentially win that game against Georgie.
Speaker 2: I think it was fair to expect them to kind
Speaker 2: of bounce back. I think they've done that under Mark
Speaker 2: Stoops under some after some bad losses. But let's just
Speaker 2: go back to Saturday night. Were you were you shocked,
Speaker 2: even though you might not have done the same thing.
Speaker 2: Were you shocked or we were you expecting Stoops to
Speaker 2: punt it away? There?
Speaker 3: So the two so the two calls can I I'm
Speaker 3: going to go into both calls that I think a
Speaker 3: lot of people kind of rusted.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: There was one at the end of the first half
Speaker 3: where they just kind of elected to kind of settle
Speaker 3: for a field goal at the end of the half
Speaker 3: against Georgia and then go into the locker room with
Speaker 3: a six to three lead. That's that's a call that
Speaker 3: I actually don't question because, again, in that moment against
Speaker 3: that defense, do you feel one hundred percent comfortable that
Speaker 3: your quarterback isn't going to take a sack or throw
Speaker 3: a pick? Because you gotta be you got to be
Speaker 3: one hundred percent comfortable with that he's not going to
Speaker 3: do those two things. If I'm Mark Stoops, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel one hundred percent comfortable about that against
Speaker 3: that defense in a short field, so I don't. I
Speaker 3: didn't mind him kicking the field goal there because they
Speaker 3: were also getting the ball coming out in the second half,
Speaker 3: so I didn't mind that at all. I thought the
Speaker 3: fourth down punt, I thought that was a really bad call.
Speaker 3: And the reason is is you're at midfield. You just
Speaker 3: need a field goal to win the game at that point,
Speaker 3: and you're playing against the number one team in the country.
Speaker 3: And let's be honest, like they didn't win the national championship,
Speaker 3: but Georgia has ruled college football for the past three
Speaker 3: or four years, and so in my opinion, like you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to go make something happen, and that was
Speaker 3: an opportune time to try to go make something happen.
Speaker 3: They don't do it. And by the way, you know,
Speaker 3: Kentucky has doesn't have a good punter, so it's not
Speaker 3: like you know, you know you're gonna pin them back
Speaker 3: and all of this other stuff, like does it really
Speaker 3: matter if you were giving them the ball at the
Speaker 3: fifty or the forty five yard line. At the time,
Speaker 3: I didn't think so I thought that was a bad decision.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's mentioned, you know, they're I don't have
Speaker 2: the quote in front of me that they're not necessarily
Speaker 2: built to, you know, to to go down the field
Speaker 2: against George. But like that's even more so reason why
Speaker 2: you'd go for, wouldn't it not, Because again, that's it's
Speaker 2: like best case scenario. You know, you get the ball back,
Speaker 2: no timeouts, not a lot of time, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to basically turn into a team that you just said
Speaker 2: you're not you're not built for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you got the ball, if you
Speaker 3: got the ball at midfield, there's no guarantee that you
Speaker 3: could just march right back to that position in thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: And so you know, because you know, and even though
Speaker 3: in that moment, you were probably gonna have to make
Speaker 3: a play in the in the passing game. Like, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, I think the jury for them is still
Speaker 3: very much out when it comes to their passing game.
Speaker 3: Against South Carolina. They didn't have any offensive line help
Speaker 3: at all. And and look, I get it, George is awesome,
Speaker 3: but and I don't, you know, maybe there were more
Speaker 3: plays to be made in the passing game. But I
Speaker 3: don't think they've really proven anything in these last two
Speaker 3: games that that they can throw the ball and throw
Speaker 3: the ball effect.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think there we haven't have
Speaker 2: we I honestly don't think we've really had a fair
Speaker 2: opportunity to evaluate if Brock vandergriff is capable of really
Speaker 2: being a guy that that that can lead not a
Speaker 2: heavy half passing attack, but a guy that can really
Speaker 2: utilize his arm, because you know, George is clearly gonna
Speaker 2: get after you. They're gonna you're you're playing is going
Speaker 2: to be to run the ball and be conservative, conservative
Speaker 2: against them, and then against South Carolina. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he ever had any time so in a weird way,
Speaker 2: you know, they've played, they've played three games up to
Speaker 2: this point, but I kind of feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: he did show some toughness against Georgia. He looked like
Speaker 2: a gamer that stood out to me honestly, is a
Speaker 2: guy who was ready to compete. I know it's his
Speaker 2: former team, but I thought he looked not too big
Speaker 2: for the moment, necessarily as a competitor and and and
Speaker 2: as a guy that has some toughness, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if we know if he's got the arm needed
Speaker 2: to utilize those weapons he has in Dane Key and Bearing.
Speaker 3: Brown and that, and and you know, you're right, the
Speaker 3: jury is very much still out, and I think you'd
Speaker 3: like to be like by the time you're going into
Speaker 3: week four, I think you'd like to know that answer sure,
Speaker 3: or or have a better or have a better indicator
Speaker 3: of what of what he is. And look, you know,
Speaker 3: he looked a little shaky in his first starting at
Speaker 3: the Southern Miss and then he settled in quite nicely
Speaker 3: and had a nice game. But you're right, he was
Speaker 3: under attack and Georgia is Georgia. That's why, to be
Speaker 3: quite honest with you, we'll probably figure out a lot
Speaker 3: more about him against Ohio. Sure, Ohio's a pretty good team.
Speaker 2: Yep, they were in they I mean they could have
Speaker 2: beat Syracuse, that team that beat Georgia Tech. So no,
Speaker 2: I think it'll in a way, it's kind of a
Speaker 2: really nice it's a nice opponent because yes, you are
Speaker 2: supposed to win. I'm not gonna act like Ohio would
Speaker 2: be a team that really is going to challenge them
Speaker 2: in a major way. At least they shouldn't. But Ohio
Speaker 2: is not you know, Austin p It's not even Southern
Speaker 2: miss to be honest with you, So I guess and
Speaker 2: we'll never know. But how do you think they bounced back?
Speaker 2: I mean you, there have been two different teams in
Speaker 2: the last two years that did almost exactly what Kentucky
Speaker 2: just did. It was Missouri a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Georgia's on the road, Missouri outplayed him. Georgia, you know,
Speaker 2: is able to hang on. Missouri doesn't really pick up
Speaker 2: off that they finished with a losing record last year Auburn,
Speaker 2: they outplayed him in that game at Auburn. Georgia finds
Speaker 2: a way to win. Auburn has a losing record, loses
Speaker 2: through New Mexico State. Again, I'm asking you to predict
Speaker 2: the future here, but how do you see them responding
Speaker 2: to on Saturday against Ohio? I mean, I I feel
Speaker 2: like Stoops's team sometimes have been really hard to predict.
Speaker 3: You know, I I honestly think and this is I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go completely reversal of what I thought. Like I
Speaker 3: thought it was gonna be last Saturday. It was gonna
Speaker 3: be a blood bath. Yeah, I thought it was gonna
Speaker 3: be bad.
Speaker 2: Vibes were as bad as I can remember for Stoops
Speaker 2: at that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think I was completely shocked by what
Speaker 3: I saw. So I actually think that maybe that team
Speaker 3: against Georgia learned a lot about themselves, about what they
Speaker 3: what they can be, you know, in a in a
Speaker 3: dog fight like that. So so I honestly think that
Speaker 3: they bounce back in a positive way this week. And
Speaker 3: that's not always the case. Like I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: whatever their preparation was last week, whatever, you know, they
Speaker 3: kind of they were definitely dialed in, specially you know,
Speaker 3: defensively in the run game and all that stuff. So
Speaker 3: if they can take that positive, and they can they
Speaker 3: can move it forward against Ohio this week, then I
Speaker 3: think they have a positive bound back to it.
Speaker 2: All Right, rapid fire Kent, are you going to Bourbon
Speaker 2: and beyond? I am not if you were gonna go
Speaker 2: and you may not even know the lineup. You gotta work.
Speaker 2: You're a hard working man, You've got family, you got priorities,
Speaker 2: and not even sure if you're a music festival guy.
Speaker 2: Of the artists there who would intrigue you the most?
Speaker 3: Can it can? This is? This is I'm so locked in,
Speaker 3: like I could, I could. I can tell you about
Speaker 3: high school field hockey right now because my daughter's in it,
Speaker 3: but I couldn't tell you about Bourbon and Beyond.
Speaker 2: I love it. That's a dad vibe right there.
Speaker 3: I'm completely dialed in. Give me, give me like five
Speaker 3: or six of the of the big bands.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Zach Bryan is the guy who seems to
Speaker 2: be like on top of the world right now. He's
Speaker 2: headlining on Saturday. Uh. Sting will be there. Dave Matthews Band,
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Tyler Childers is there, match Box I mentioned
Speaker 2: Maxbox twenty, my Morning Jacket, Whiskey Meyers, Cody Jinks, and again,
Speaker 2: I've heard of a lot Teddy Swims. I've heard of
Speaker 2: a lot of these bands and artists, but I'm not
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not necessarily music festivals in general aren't
Speaker 2: really my cup of tea. But do any of those
Speaker 2: names intrigue you at all? If they don't, it's fun.
Speaker 3: Sting Sting honestly would intrigue me a little bit. And
Speaker 3: then and then early Dave Matthews Band wouldn't would intrigue me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: those two would probably be the ones that that get
Speaker 3: me going to the most. I didn't know if like
Speaker 3: a Pearl jam was back this year or anything like that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, those I guess Sting and Dave Matthews band
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: All Right, who is the most underrated quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 3: Maybe right now? Maybe maybe Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna go he's starting to get some
Speaker 2: love again. But I think that's I think that's a
Speaker 2: good call. A guy who was looked to be done
Speaker 2: in the NFL bouncing around and now he's found a nice,
Speaker 2: a nice, a nice spot in Tampa and there they
Speaker 2: look like a pretty good team at this point.
Speaker 3: And by the way, not only is he playing well
Speaker 3: like his teammates love.
Speaker 2: Him, yeah, because he I mean, he seems to be
Speaker 2: really unpopular, or at least he was with kind of
Speaker 2: how he carried himself in college and early on in
Speaker 2: the NFL, And I never really understood it totally. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess maybe he was kind of a knucklehead with
Speaker 2: some of the stuff he would do. But like I think,
Speaker 2: if you're a competitor, like in the locker room, like
Speaker 2: you respect the hell out of that guy. Because I've
Speaker 2: always it's weird. I've always been a big make Baker.
Speaker 2: I just love his story and I'm actually not that
Speaker 2: surprised to see him thriving because he's got a belief
Speaker 2: in himself that at times you can just tell because
Speaker 2: he'll you know, and his younger self would tell you,
Speaker 2: or maybe his actions. But he's got a quiet confidence
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, the respect that he gets
Speaker 2: from his guys is a good I mean, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: You can tell that they feel good about him being
Speaker 2: their guy moving forward in Tampa.
Speaker 3: And Baker Mayfield is one of those guys, these kind
Speaker 3: of guys, and I think he's he's dialed it way
Speaker 3: down since he had his struggles in Cleveland. But Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 3: especially in college, he was the dude that if he's
Speaker 3: on your team, you love him, and then if not,
Speaker 3: then you hate him. Like that. That's he was in college.
Speaker 2: And some guys are like that and they're just solid,
Speaker 2: like Draymond Green is not an elite player, but like
Speaker 2: Baker was the guy who's really really good and you
Speaker 2: hate him if he's not your guy, and if he
Speaker 2: is your guy, you know he's he's the best thing ever.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, one more question for you when
Speaker 2: it comes to the Bengals zero and two, they've been
Speaker 2: there before. I mean, they clearly could have and probably
Speaker 2: should have beaten the Chiefs. Is it fair to say
Speaker 2: that was a nice bounce back? Again? They lost and
Speaker 2: you got to win in the NFL, but they did
Speaker 2: go toe to toe with the Chiefs in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: You feel any better about your Bengals after last week?
Speaker 2: Or you feel worse encouraged?
Speaker 3: You know, Look, I feel I you know, because I
Speaker 3: actually got to watch them, So I feel encouraged. And
Speaker 3: there's a couple. There's two things here. I you know,
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of folks magic, Maholmes magic. Look,
Speaker 3: it was fourth and sixteen, and they called it past interference.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm it was a good call. He
Speaker 3: got there early time with that. But like if if
Speaker 3: he doesn't, if if there's not past interference there, Cincinnati
Speaker 3: wins the gamee.
Speaker 2: And isn't that like I mean that is that would
Speaker 2: make it even worse for me if I was a
Speaker 2: Bengals fan, because like, you quite literally did something that
Speaker 2: you should that you didn't even need to do, and
Speaker 2: yet that's why you end up with a loss, because
Speaker 2: that win would have been huge. I mean we're talking
Speaker 2: about the Chiefs here.
Speaker 3: Well, I liked how they played. I liked you know,
Speaker 3: I liked the way Joe Burrow looked. I didn't like
Speaker 3: the you know, the fumble that left to the the
Speaker 3: scoop and score. But oh, we're all like. I thought
Speaker 3: they played well, especially you know against Mahomes and that
Speaker 3: and that offense. I thought they're you know, defense, you know,
Speaker 3: overall played well. It's a you know, the one thing
Speaker 3: I know about this, it's a long season and you
Speaker 3: just want to be trending in the right direction now now,
Speaker 3: you know, coming up, they need to start like there's
Speaker 3: no moral victories. You've got to start winning football games.
Speaker 3: But you know, you're getting hopefully they're getting closer to
Speaker 3: getting T Higgins back, and then when he's back, then
Speaker 3: it loosens things up for Jamar Chase and that that
Speaker 3: helps everybody out, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Can't you are the man. I appreciate you making time
Speaker 2: for us. Enjoy the rest of your week and weekend
Speaker 2: and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3: Brother, Hey, Bubby, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: All right. That's Kent Spencer w h A S eleven.
Speaker 2: Good stuff there, all right, Uh, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side. I want to
Speaker 2: carry over that Joe Burrow, well not Joe Burrow, but
Speaker 2: the Chiefs Bengals game. I don't think there was really
Speaker 2: any controversy that was clearly pass interference. They called it,
Speaker 2: and it led to a lot of people just claiming
Speaker 2: that Mahome gets all the bailouts, and the refs love him,
Speaker 2: the NFL wants him to do well because he's the
Speaker 2: face of the league, and you know, I get all that.
Speaker 2: But what I said, and we talked about it earlier
Speaker 2: in the week, the Chiefs probably don't get many more
Speaker 2: calls than anybody else. They're just good enough to really
Speaker 2: make you pay. They'll bury you if you make a mistake,
Speaker 2: if you let them, and that's what they did against
Speaker 2: the Bengals. But there's actually somebody who did a deep
Speaker 2: dive on which like which quarterback gets the benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt more than anybody else when it comes to
Speaker 2: the officials just making a judgment call where they can't
Speaker 2: really review it right, the results I think will surprise you.
Speaker 2: Stick around. It's coffee and company. Feel abou Thorn's right
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Speaker 2: I don't think I know the band.
Speaker 4: The artist is Katie Tunstall, the songs called Suddenly I see.
Speaker 2: I would have guessed that this would be a one
Speaker 2: hit wonder because I don't know that name at all,
Speaker 2: but i'd know this song. But her being at Bourbon
Speaker 2: and Beyond would make me think that she's got more
Speaker 2: in the catalog than just this.
Speaker 4: My sister in law's really into this person.
Speaker 2: I don't know I've ever heard that name. This was
Speaker 2: a huge song though, By the way, I know that
Speaker 2: when she played, you know.
Speaker 4: She I don't know the time, but she's today. She
Speaker 4: might be playing right now for all we know.
Speaker 2: Well, hope she's enjoying herself here in the fine city
Speaker 2: of Louisville, Kentucky. Bourbon and Beyond. I mean, did it kill?
Speaker 2: Somebody asked me this on the text line. I don't
Speaker 2: have the answer, and I'm sure you don't either. It's
Speaker 2: just an opinion. Did this kill the Forecastle Festival?
Speaker 4: It wouldn't surprise me because they both bring similar vibes
Speaker 4: in terms of the music style.
Speaker 2: Was Forecastle Waterfront? Yes? I thought, so you ever? Did
Speaker 2: you ever go to that?
Speaker 4: I never did? Yeah, I know who the organizers were,
Speaker 4: but they weren't. It wasn't Danny Wimmer.
Speaker 2: It was not.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that makes sense considering that Bourbon and Beyond.
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's really to me, it seems like
Speaker 2: a just just from the lineup and the vibes around
Speaker 2: the event that is Bourbon and Beyond, it kind of
Speaker 2: seems like a like a Forecastle on steroids. It's kind
Speaker 2: of the way I see it. So it is coffee
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Speaker 2: but if you do have menopause. You know there's ways
Speaker 2: to treat it. Clearly, now I'm distracted. So the most
Speaker 2: bitched about call in the NFL so far this season
Speaker 2: has to be the pass interference call against the Bengals
Speaker 2: in the Chiefs game on Sunday, and the Bengals bailed
Speaker 2: out the Chiefs, not the refs. There's no way around that,
Speaker 2: and it might end up being the most bitched about
Speaker 2: call in the NFL after four weeks of action. We'll
Speaker 2: have to wait and see. But it was the right call.
Speaker 2: It was. I mean, I don't know, if you watched it,
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can debate that that was
Speaker 2: not past interference.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: So it's led to a lot of people running with
Speaker 2: the narrative that the NFL is conspiring to make sure
Speaker 2: that the Chiefs win and have success and continue to
Speaker 2: be in the limelight because they've got the face of
Speaker 2: the league as their quarterback. Their tight end happens to
Speaker 2: be dating the most famous human being on the planet,
Speaker 2: and the numbers, the metrics, the data tells you that
Speaker 2: she is bringing value to the NFL. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know how you can, like to a tee, chalk
Speaker 2: it up to t Swift doing it. But like clearly
Speaker 2: there are people who are now watching the Chiefs only
Speaker 2: because Taylor Swift's boyfriend is the tight end. That sounds insane,
Speaker 2: but there are insane people that worship this woman. It's
Speaker 2: the truth.
Speaker 4: I give my wife because she stayed to her her
Speaker 4: decision to be a Bill's fan, even after Taylor Swift decided.
Speaker 4: You know, she was a Chiefs fan because of Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 2: And from what I gather, you know your wife likes
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's music. She does, She's not, She's not, it's
Speaker 2: she's not made it her whole life correct to be
Speaker 2: a Taylor Swift fan, which a lot of the Swifties
Speaker 2: do that. It's it's odd behavior, but you know what happened.
Speaker 2: So I want to give Bill Barnwell some credit here,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure Bill Barnwell will will die a happy
Speaker 2: man knowing that me sports radio host in a borderline
Speaker 2: top fifty market in Louisvell is giving him credit. But
Speaker 2: take it for what it's worth. May not be worth
Speaker 2: anything to you, Bill, but I'm gonna give you credit.
Speaker 2: He did a deep dive that really tells you if
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes gets the benefit of that out more than
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks or not. And he works for ESPN, and
Speaker 2: here's what he had to say. I'm gonna read this thread. So,
Speaker 2: so I've been thinking a lot about that viral Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes interception overturned by penalty statistic from the weekend. If
Speaker 2: it felt like bad faith use of data, I went
Speaker 2: and took a closer look to see if that was true.
Speaker 2: So he goes on to say, to start, this stat
Speaker 2: has no denominator. The player we would expect to lead
Speaker 2: the league in interceptions overturned by penalty since the start
Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen is the guy who has thrown the
Speaker 2: most passes of any kind over that timeframe. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: with three thousand, six hundred and eight passing attempts. Jared
Speaker 2: Goff three thy, five hundred and eight passing attempts is
Speaker 2: the only quarterback within three hundred attempts. So because he's
Speaker 2: thrown more than anyone, Mahomes leads since twenty eighteen in
Speaker 2: a lot of things like passes completed for exactly thirteen
Speaker 2: yards or yards on slants, which is two hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 2: So it's no surprise that he does lead the league
Speaker 2: in overturned interceptions where he threw a pick and then
Speaker 2: he got it back because they called PI. So again
Speaker 2: that what he's doing here, Bill Barnwell is letting you know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that stat's real, but it's also a little misleading because
Speaker 2: this guy has actually there's way more opportunity for this
Speaker 2: to happen just given how long he's been out there
Speaker 2: as a starting quarterback. So back to the thread. After
Speaker 2: that play in the Bengals game, this stat was used
Speaker 2: to further the idea that Mahomes is being bailed out
Speaker 2: for bad passes by referees. The problem is that there's
Speaker 2: a penalty which wipes off a lot of interceptions that
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with referee judgment calls off sides.
Speaker 2: Eight of those seventeen interceptions were plays where a defender
Speaker 2: went off sides and Mahomes threw a ball up on
Speaker 2: a free play. Those obviously aren't bailout calls. Great point, right,
Speaker 2: he sees somebody jump off sides, he's going to be
Speaker 2: a little more risky with that arm because he knows
Speaker 2: he's going to get the ball back. So another example
Speaker 2: of how that's misleading. So there's only eight overturned interceptions
Speaker 2: we can ascribe to plays that involve referee judgment calls,
Speaker 2: defensive pass interference, roughing the passer, illegal contact, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Including the interceptions. That's about one for every four hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty two passes Mahomes has thrown since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Is he in fact bailed out by either a blatant
Speaker 2: call or bailed out by a judgment call where the
Speaker 2: officials decide to award him. So back to the thread,
Speaker 2: it's one of the higher rates I can find. But
Speaker 2: there's one quarterback who has a higher rate of interceptions
Speaker 2: overturned by plays that involved a referees discretion since twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: and it isn't going to help Bengals fans who are
Speaker 2: worried about a conspiracy theory against them. Joe Burrow has
Speaker 2: had eight interceptions overturned by penalty since joining the league,
Speaker 2: two off sides for DPI in illegal use of the
Speaker 2: hands in a defensive holding. That six judgment calls across
Speaker 2: oney nine hundred and sixty six pass attempts, or one
Speaker 2: every thirty two point or three hundred, yeah, three hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty seven point seven attempts in other words, again,
Speaker 2: this is Bill Barnwell. In other words, Mahomes wasn't even
Speaker 2: the quarterback who had the who had been bailed out
Speaker 2: by judgment calls from referees most often in the game
Speaker 2: he was playing on Sunday, let alone league wide. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know some people just hear analytics and stats and
Speaker 2: numbers and just say, oh, your adore doesn't matter, Poindexter.
Speaker 2: You're crunching numbers to to, you know, to make a point.
Speaker 2: Well whatever, that's facts. What he laid out is facts.
Speaker 2: And I don't do this to defend Mahomes. I want
Speaker 2: to hate Mahomes, and I kind of do when I
Speaker 2: watch him play, But like, it's not personal, and it
Speaker 2: really isn't personal for any athlete because I don't know
Speaker 2: any of these guys, but obviously how they carry themselves,
Speaker 2: who they play for, if they play for a rival
Speaker 2: like that impacts how you how you feel about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, we don't know any of these acts.
Speaker 2: Even the guys on our team that we say we love,
Speaker 2: we don't know them. You know, a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't want to accept or realize that, but it's just
Speaker 2: the truth. So with Mahomes and the Chiefs. It's just
Speaker 2: clear they are on top. Even before Taylor Swift, they
Speaker 2: became the team that everybody was all right, you guys
Speaker 2: had your run. Enough's enough, we get it. Mahomes is
Speaker 2: the golden boy. Quit shove it in our face. So
Speaker 2: they're in the midst of a dynasty. People will to
Speaker 2: see dynasty's fall. That's how. That's human nature for a
Speaker 2: lot of people, myself included. I think the Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: element in that leading to them being in our face
Speaker 2: more than ever, has made it to where any little
Speaker 2: judgment call from a ref that is in fact questionable
Speaker 2: is going to make it seem as if all here
Speaker 2: we go, they're going to help them out. Chiefs get
Speaker 2: another break, Which again, what made that so stupid on
Speaker 2: Sunday is that it wasn't really I mean, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a judgment call, but anybody using judgment that did not
Speaker 2: call pass interference there doesn't need to be in the
Speaker 2: position to make that judgment call.
Speaker 3: It was blatant.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of teams out there over the
Speaker 2: years in different sports that are viewed to be lucky.
Speaker 2: Oh look they're getting bailed out by revs or just
Speaker 2: you know, some kind of luck, and maybe they have
Speaker 2: some luck go their way every now and then. But
Speaker 2: I think what makes people assume that everybody's lucky is
Speaker 2: that if they you get a break go their way,
Speaker 2: they're gonna take advantage of it, and they're gonna make
Speaker 2: you pay for it. I don't do all this to
Speaker 2: defend the Chiefs and to defend Mahomes, but I mean
Speaker 2: facts are facts, all right. Five h two six five
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Speaker 2: Despite everybody giving Kentucky a lot of credit for losing
Speaker 2: to Georgia, and nobody seems to bring up the fact
Speaker 2: that Georgia actually lost the number one spot in the
Speaker 2: poll after winning, doesn't that say a lot about Kentucky? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's a I guess that's a
Speaker 2: good point. I mean, I didn't expect Georgia to fall
Speaker 2: from number one because they did win on the road
Speaker 2: in the SEC. But yeah, Texas, Texas got passed him.
Speaker 2: And I don't have the actual stat or fact in
Speaker 2: front of me but them, And again, it's probably one
Speaker 2: of those things you got to really do a lot
Speaker 2: of gymnastics to to get this kind of of a fact.
Speaker 2: But teams who were number one that went on the
Speaker 2: road like road in the SEC have I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody's ever dropped out because again, I don't care who
Speaker 2: you lose, who you play. If you're number one and
Speaker 2: you don't retain number one after winning, that's rare, especially
Speaker 2: when you're playing a conference team. So yeah, i'd say
Speaker 2: to to give to give Texas some credit. I think
Speaker 2: they've they've mean, what they went and did up in
Speaker 2: ann Arbor was really impressive. I mean, even though I
Speaker 2: think Michigan has taken a step back, that was a
Speaker 2: that was a damn good win for them. Speaking of Texas,
Speaker 2: arch Manning getting the start for the injured Quinnouers on
Speaker 2: Saturday against Louisiana and Roe. And I'm not touching this
Speaker 2: game from a wagering standpoint, but I will say I'm
Speaker 2: kind of all in on on Louisiana and Row. Did
Speaker 2: you happen to uh to hear what their defensive coordinators
Speaker 2: said about Quinne about arch Manning, I didn't, but I'd
Speaker 2: love to hear it. So apparently there's a lot because
Speaker 2: he's from Louisiana. Uh arch Manning as he played his
Speaker 2: high school ball in Louisiana, and their defensive coordinator, Louis M.
Speaker 2: N Rose, was talking about the I guess the connection there,
Speaker 2: and he had no problem in letting people know that
Speaker 2: his guys aren't scared. Yeah, I think they're forty four
Speaker 2: and a half point underdogs here, which is which is crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're forty four and a half point underdogs, and their
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator is letting it be known that they've already
Speaker 2: got some guys on their team that's done beat them before.
Speaker 2: And that was the words he used, They don't beat
Speaker 2: him once. So carry in Louisiana. It's right carrying some
Speaker 2: confidence into this matchup despite being underdogs by forty four
Speaker 2: and a half points. Hey, I mean, any anything you
Speaker 2: can do to hype up your team, maybe speaking confidently
Speaker 2: like that, we'll give the confidence in his team to
Speaker 2: not get completely, you know, annihilated. All right, let's tal
Speaker 2: about Jefferson Animal Hospital. You guys know, I'm pretty passionate
Speaker 2: about all the work that they do. They help not
Speaker 2: only you and your pets, but they help save pets lives,
Speaker 2: and they're going to be able to educate you on
Speaker 2: that process, how it all works, and how important it
Speaker 2: is with this big event they've got coming up a
Speaker 2: month from today. So Pints for Paws and people will
Speaker 2: be a month from today at the Jefferson Animal Hospital
Speaker 2: over there on outer Loop, and I encourage you guys
Speaker 2: to go out. I mean not only for a great event,
Speaker 2: but you're going to be educated on the process as
Speaker 2: far as pet blood donations. They'll let you see the process.
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people will want to see
Speaker 2: if they're a little uneasy about. Especially for cats, they
Speaker 2: do have to be sedated to give blood, but they'll
Speaker 2: let you see that process. That way you can feel
Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit more at ease. But
Speaker 2: your dog or your pet can donate blood just like us.
Speaker 2: If your dog's over fifty pounds or your cat's at
Speaker 2: least ten pounds, they may qualify to be at a
Speaker 2: pet blood donor. So on October nineteenth at the Jefferson
Speaker 2: Animal Hospital on outer Loop they're going to have their
Speaker 2: event from ten am to two pm and again live
Speaker 2: demonstrations on the pet blood donations. Are also going to
Speaker 2: have food that you can enjoy, so and if you
Speaker 2: want to donate blood yourself with the American Red Cross.
Speaker 2: You can do that too, So pints for pausing people
Speaker 2: October nineteenth, tended to All pets are welcome, All people
Speaker 2: are welcome, and you can get more info by calling
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Speaker 2: dot com. All right, quick break, we'll come back on
Speaker 2: the other side. Talk about Jeff Brahm's comments last night
Speaker 2: on his Coaches show regarding Colin Lacey. Sounds like they
Speaker 2: may have him for noted name next week, which is
Speaker 2: crazy to think about, but hey, that just gives you
Speaker 2: another weapon. All right, quick break, don't go anywhere. It's
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Speaker 2: on Sports Talk seven ninety. I recognize the sound, the voice,
Speaker 2: but not the song. The artist is Chris Isaac and
Speaker 2: this song is Blue Hotel. It's not his biggest hit,
Speaker 2: but when I was trying to decide which song of
Speaker 2: his to play, his top hits were a little more,
Speaker 2: you know, sad. We didn't want to bring down the
Speaker 2: mood again for the second time.
Speaker 4: This show.
Speaker 2: Sounds dislike him, very Elvis like, Yeah, he's right around
Speaker 2: seventy years of age. Bourbon and Beyond is starting today,
Speaker 2: which is why John has has been playing some tracks
Speaker 2: from those that are participating in the in the big
Speaker 2: event that we've got going on this weekend. All Right,
Speaker 2: we'll talk a little more about sports wagering in the
Speaker 2: five o'clock hour because John and I are going to
Speaker 2: talk some picks on our end, and then we are
Speaker 2: going to be joined by Brian Edwards, Vegas insider, who
Speaker 2: will join us at five point thirty later today. But
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this right now, I may have just
Speaker 2: witnessed the most bold signal that Indiana football is not back.
Speaker 2: They've arrived. I don't know where they'd be back to,
Speaker 2: because you know, Signety's going to take them to heights
Speaker 2: they've never been before. But John said he was a
Speaker 2: little surprised that the Hoosiers were only favored by twenty
Speaker 2: eight and a half in this in this matchup. What
Speaker 2: if I told you that Indiana is favored by more
Speaker 2: than any other team in college football this weekend that
Speaker 2: is playing another FBS team.
Speaker 4: That's surprising, I thought, because I could have sworn Penn
Speaker 4: State was like forty something point favorites against Kent State.
Speaker 2: I thought that that's the only other one forty nine.
Speaker 4: Okay, which again I'll go and say that I'm taking
Speaker 4: Kent State and plus foury so that's insane.
Speaker 2: Like UTSA is big against Houston Christian Boise State is
Speaker 2: huge against Portland State. So I mean, you don't just
Speaker 2: want to win, you want to bury teams with signatty.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: And that's what they've done so far. They buried UCLA
Speaker 4: and again, UCLA might suck. We don't really know that.
Speaker 2: Be pretty red. Yeah, I mean, did you see what
Speaker 2: Buffalo Wild Wings has decided to do. No, they're gonna
Speaker 2: give away free wings in the in the LA area
Speaker 2: at Buffalo Wild Wings anytime UCLA wins a game.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, they're that confident that they're gonna suck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want to be doing that. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: Buffalo Wild Things offering free wings after each UCLA win
Speaker 2: this year. And there's not gonna be many opportunities because
Speaker 2: they've got LSU on the road Oregon, Penn State, Minnesota, Rutgers, Nebraska, Iowa, Washington, USC,
Speaker 2: Fresno State. They might not win a game, shade.
Speaker 4: There's no gimmeas on that schedule.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could make the case going into it,
Speaker 2: not now, but you could make the case going into it,
Speaker 2: Indiana looked like the only sure win for them after
Speaker 2: you know whoever they played in the first Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I mean, Rutgers is not an easy I mean, and again,
Speaker 2: like Ucla is really really bad. Didn't mean Indiana's win
Speaker 2: wasn't impressive. In fact, I think people watching Indiana and
Speaker 2: Ucla agree that line was because the lines moved a
Speaker 2: lot of did you know what it opened at? No,
Speaker 2: it was it was minus twenty three. Now it's minus
Speaker 2: twenty eight, a lot of points. So you know, Hoosias
Speaker 2: got a rolling baby, It's gonna be fun. I never
Speaker 2: really gave any thought to us doing a show together
Speaker 2: with both of us, like having good football teams, and
Speaker 2: I I mean, I hate to be mean, it wasn't
Speaker 2: because of Louisville's because I just didn't know. I like,
Speaker 2: Indiana being six and six regularly is not normal. I
Speaker 2: think Indiana under signety, he's got a chance to be
Speaker 2: better than that. Regularly. Maybe they have a you know,
Speaker 2: a year where they're down a little bit, but like
Speaker 2: he's a winner, dude, that guy wins, and it's been infectious,
Speaker 2: not only with the way his teams play. They carry
Speaker 2: themselves not like they know they're Indiana football. They carry
Speaker 2: themselves as if, Hey, we're here to compete and win.
Speaker 2: We're here to let everybody know. This is in your
Speaker 2: daddy's Indiana football. This Saint Pat Paul is Indiana football.
Speaker 2: This is signatty baby, and we're gonna win. Fired up,
Speaker 2: I'm fired up. Take down Biff Pogy. Yeah, cut off
Speaker 2: his sleeveless sweatshirts. I call it a wife beater the
Speaker 2: other day. It's not quite what it is, well, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's the thicker version of a wife beater. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a stained, probably stinky sweatshirt. Does it
Speaker 2: have a hood on it? I think it's got a
Speaker 2: hood on it. It's a cut off hood. It's what
Speaker 2: he wears. I don't know if he's gonna wear it
Speaker 2: in Bloomington on Saturday, but he'll probably be leaving there
Speaker 2: with a big fat l I hope. So all right,
Speaker 2: So no time left here to get into it, but
Speaker 2: I will again. I'm sure a lot of people have
Speaker 2: already heard this, and I'm not gonna act like I'm
Speaker 2: delaying big information. But we can get into sort of
Speaker 2: the over the overall idea of Colin Lacy returning a
Speaker 2: lot quicker than most expected. I have no problem saying
Speaker 2: it now. I was told that they didn't they didn't
Speaker 2: know if they'd see him at all this year, and
Speaker 2: that the broke the break, the broke, the break of
Speaker 2: his collar bone.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a tough break. Not that any of them
Speaker 2: are are good, but like it was a pretty extensive
Speaker 2: surgery that likely meant he was going to be out.
Speaker 2: But he's back to practicing or back in practice. I
Speaker 2: think that could mean a lot of things, right. So
Speaker 2: we'll talk about it a little bit more as we
Speaker 2: get set for Louisville's first test against Georgia Tech that's
Speaker 2: coming up in just a couple of days. We've got
Speaker 2: some football to get into tonight and a lot more.
Speaker 2: We'll get back into the NIL efforts for Kentucky basketball,
Speaker 2: only because I think what they're doing with NIL, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't want to say I'm envious, but there's been
Speaker 2: a couple of things Kentucky's done on the NIL side
Speaker 2: that I think louisvill should do and other schools should do.
Speaker 2: So we're loaded the rest of the way. Keep it
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