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Speaker 1: You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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Speaker 2: These are the.

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Speaker 1: Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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Speaker 2: So stay with us.

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Speaker 1: Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his

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fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,

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please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes.

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Thank you, hey, Laura, how are you his in one there?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: How are you good? How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Look great?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Hot today? But then we had some cloud covered, so.

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Speaker 2: I bet it's hot, so I had an encounter. Feel

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free to share what you're experience.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and I'm sorry about the lag in Rudoso. It's

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seventy miles away from Roswell, where I'm from. The mountains

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aren't thick mountains like other places. I went to West Virginia.

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After we would go we would go to Rudoso every year,

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and so we would scout those woods. I never heard

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or saw anything weird, while the horses was the most

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that we saw. Didn't hear anything. And then I go

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to West Virginia. The woods there, that's a forest. That's

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those are woods. There's you can't see past five feet

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if if the sun is not out, it gets dark

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because there's a canopy and all it. I mean, it's

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just completely different. And what I didn't really see them,

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but I could smell it. I could feel it.

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Speaker 3: And then I heard them, three of them.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm the only one out of eight of us

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walking through the you know, the dense forest that even

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they kept saying, why are you what's wrong?

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Speaker 3: Why do you keep shopping?

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, do you not smell that? Nobody smells that?

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Like they're like they always thought it was weird. Anyway,

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I hear them, and and there's no way a dog

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or a human could have made this sound.

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Speaker 3: These sounds.

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Speaker 5: You felt them in your bones, you felt them in

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your teeth when they were like communicating with each other

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kind of like it was. It was almost like a

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triangulation if you listened to where one was and then

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speaking to the other. I mean, they were having a

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conversation about us, and then the tone changed. When I

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looked at it, I thought I saw something move, So

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I look and again it's hard to seeing those things

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because they're so thick, but I did. I was hyper

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aware at that point, and I looked because I was

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looking everywhere. Well, I thought, you know what, there's one

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place I haven't looked up and behined. So I did,

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and sure enough, the whole tone of theirs changed, like

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there's a bunch of them they don't see us, but

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this one does.

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Speaker 3: I just felt that in my my my being.

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Speaker 5: But the sound they made was so loud and so

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it was like it was like you know, their their call.

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You've heard it like layered, like like there was more

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than one voice, only one, only one being. But the

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voice was so deep and so guttural, and you felt

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it in your bones. And there's and I mean he

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made a sound or she a sound for forty five

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seconds and it never wavered, and it shook trees even.

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I mean, it was just crazy. I don't know how

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close they were to us. But I could feel them

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before before I could, I smelled them, and then I

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felt them the way before I even saw them, and

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it scared the heck.

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Speaker 3: Adem Yes, yes.

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Speaker 5: And when I say how, I don't mean like how

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like a dog? How, I mean likely this guttural.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 5: I don't think a human can even produce that sound.

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I don't know of anything that could produce that sound

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except a subsquatch. Then Washington, I heard them too. I'm

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telling you you can't.

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Speaker 3: You cannot.

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Speaker 5: You cannot make that sound because you feel it in

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your whole body, you feel it in your being. They're supernatural,

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for sure. For sure that will disappeared. That can do that,

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Speaker 2: What What did it smell like? Mmm?

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Speaker 5: Rotting death and meat just rotten like they like it

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hadn't bathed when it had stuff, stuff, get its teeth like.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's something you just will never ever forget.

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Speaker 5: I've worked in hospitals, I've smell that kind of death.

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This is completely different, But that is nothing compared to

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how you feel. Every My face was had goosebumps on it.

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My hair must have been sticking up from the goosebumps.

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And I don't get goosebumps, you know. I get him

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for emotional things. I don't get him from supernatural things.

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Nothing scares me. I've been around it all. Nothing scares

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me anymore. That scared me. And I had heard in

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the Appalachians even that if the closer they sound, the

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further away they are. But the further away they sound,

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the closer they really are.

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Speaker 4: To you.

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Speaker 3: Now, the way the guy that or the way that one.

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Speaker 5: Of them and all of them made that sound row,

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I'm telling you that scared me more than and they

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were just communicating. I figured out they're just communicating. But

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oh man, I wanted to run.

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Speaker 2: Can you share the general area of West Virginia that happened?

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Speaker 3: Then, yes, sir. We were in Bickley, Westford Jr.

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Speaker 5: And we just went to the wood because of woods

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are everywhere around the houses, and we just went maybe

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a mile away from the houses into the woods.

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Speaker 3: We didn't do it again, I promise you, at least

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I didn't.

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Speaker 5: And then then they decided they were like, okay, let's

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tell our mom and dad, let's tell everybody to you know,

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to all the parents, and see what happens.

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Speaker 3: So they just laughed like, yeah, you know whatever. Then

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I decided, ah, I was mad. I walked out, where'd

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they go?

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Speaker 5: Right to the woods and I look over and I

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just see this. I'm chelling you. The woods are weird there.

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Speaker 2: What a What year was that again?

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say I think it was the centennial, like

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seventy six, seventy seven, maybe seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay.

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Speaker 3: When did Urban Cowboy come out that year? I think

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that was seventy eight eighty somewhere around there. I was

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a kid. I was a kid. I'm almost sixty down.

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Speaker 2: Cool cool, cool, And have you experienced anything else since then?

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Speaker 5: Yes, as a matter of fact, because we did go

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into the woods again and they convinced me. And that

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time I saw a dog man and they did not

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see it again.

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Speaker 3: They didn't feel it. They didn't see it. They didn't

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not they didn't smell it nothing. I thought, you're there back, we're.

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Speaker 5: Going into their territory and they're gonna be mad this time,

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they're gonna get us.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, let go over. And there's nine foot dog man.

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Speaker 5: Just it didn't look like a werewolf like like I'd

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seen movies. I didn't that to me, it said dog man,

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and it looked it cracked its head like you see me. Yeah,

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I freaking see. Although my cousins and my brothers and

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sisters once again did.

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Speaker 2: Not same area.

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Speaker 3: It was the same area, which just confused.

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Speaker 5: It confused me as a child, but it really confuses

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me now because I've never heard anyone say anything like this,

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and I'm not making it up.

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Speaker 2: M hmm. Absolutely, I've heard that.

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Speaker 1: I know a few areas where they kind of live

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close to each other but they keep separate.

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Speaker 2: That's really interesting.

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Speaker 3: Looking back, it's kind of cool.

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Speaker 5: But man, at the time, I think I didn't sleep

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with the light off or uh probably well and telling

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due as a teenager, and I thought, I can't. I

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can't act like this anymore. They're not gonna come get me.

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Speaker 3: I just know.

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Speaker 5: I just have this feeling that if I went back there,

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they know me by my scent and say, hey, she's back,

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she saw us, she knows like you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Is that good? Is that bad?

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Speaker 4: Am?

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Speaker 2: I tell anybody?

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Speaker 5: Are they gonna kill me? Are they gonna say, hey,

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come see us and we'll tell you about how you

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know what I mean? Like the brain goes so many

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ways when when you're that and nothing scares me, nothing,

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but that scared me. And they could disappear, Well, that

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scared me because that dog man just anticipated.

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Speaker 2: Oh you saw it just disappear, disappear.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen. I thought there was m going on.

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Speaker 6: I was like, what in the.

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Speaker 5: World again, though I'm like ten eleven and I was smart.

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I was smart ten year old, but it scared me

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to the core. Scares me to talk about it, like

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they'll find me.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of other people having experiences like that

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in the same area.

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Speaker 5: By Beckley's especially, Yes, sir, I have really my cousins.

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They're kind of asleep and in the matrix so they

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don't really notice things. But a couple of them that

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had friends that were like me and said, no, they're there.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think they want to hear us.

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Speaker 2: They want to the isn't there a new national park

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around there?

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Speaker 3: Believe there is?

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Speaker 5: And that confused because these people know when and they

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lived there, but they know they freaking know, So what

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are they doing?

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Speaker 3: Like you want people to see them?

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Speaker 5: Do you want people to be taken away? I mean,

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what their tactics not working? Otherwise to kill us?

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Speaker 4: All.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You set up something like that.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, New River goes.

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Speaker 3: It's way too close, brother, way too close.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Well, Alaura, I thank you for coming up and sharing

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your experiences. I hope that you are at a place

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where you're able to. Can you go in the woods

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now or do you keep away from the woods after that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I will go, I will go, and yeah, I will

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go in the root woods. There are so woodsy there.

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I can see, you know, a mile in front of me.

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Thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: A good one.

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Speaker 1: That's wild. Just another example of cryptodactivity in an area

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that gets a National park. Putting it makes you wonder, right,

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makes you wonder?

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Speaker 2: Hi, Daniel, Hey, Jeremiah, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: So I am trying to got to figure out the

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cool way to do this. Let's let's see if I

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could have you say maybe a few words about the

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weather or something, and let's see if people can hear you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah absolutely, it's it's really hot and muggy in Surrey

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right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's see if anyone heard that there's a

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little delay. Yeah, dude, the Midwest is going to be

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rough in starting Sunday, Holy mackerel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're kind of prepping for it right now.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean what it's supposed to get up to, like

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one ten heat index?

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it should be a good time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, dude, I think I think we kind of

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figure this out. I was kind of going off of

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mysteries unknown and how he does it, and it looks

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like this is going to work. Did you just just

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curious did you have any bigfoot activity down there? Or

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just given a call in because I asked? Actually both,

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I guess really awesome. Yeah, feel free to share what

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you're what you got going on there?

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and I haven't. I haven't met them, but I know

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several people who have him pretty close with some people

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that do some nearby uh some nearby stuff. Maybe you've

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heard of the guy with the greenhouses.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've I've heard. Yeah, I've actually Oh who did

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Speaker 1: This is a while back, but I've heard that story. Yeah,

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are you involved with that guy?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, you probably heard from maybe Mike.

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Speaker 2: Scott, Yes that was the guy. Yep.

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those guys very well, and uh they actually had Uh

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they brought me uh full circle from from kind of

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not even not even understanding that how how such a

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thing could be possible, let alone let alone real I was.

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talents north.

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Speaker 4: Me and hang out for a while. And at the time,

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high strangeness for me was just it was just fun.

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to my knowledge had experienced with it. So they can

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and talking and uh they started they started telling me

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about this this strange activity uh nearby, well not nearby,

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but at their at their place. And I thought at

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first they were just messing with me. I thought they

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were just either they're great people, they're they're they're funny

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to me. Uh, they definitely would play a joke on

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me for fun, you know it. But after a while

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they kept they kept talking and I'm thinking to myself, like, okay,

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joke feels kind of kind of over and and they're like, well,

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I'm becuz we're not joking. They had told me, uh

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several I mean several experiences, uh that are kind of ongoing,

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kind of realized that they weren't messing with me, and

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they weren't playing a joke and it wasn't necessarily funny anyway. Uh.

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I got obsessed. I started watching. I found your channel,

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I found uh, I found a fast watch SiO channel

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and I and I could not stop watching, And honestly

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week A week afterward. I was after I after they

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had came and talked to me, I was super curious.

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I couldn't get anything out of my mind. I was

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just it was just all I could think of. So,

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I this is gonna sound crazy, and I don't I

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don't know if anyone believes me when I even say this,

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But I walked out my front door. And I lived

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near a lake. I live on a lake actually, and

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on the other side of my road is a large

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wooded field. So I walked out to my mailbox. I

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stood there for about five minutes just staring.

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Speaker 2: Into the dark.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't really tell you why. I just was staring,

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and I had the oddest feeling just it wasn't it

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wasn't bad. I didn't feel scared necessarily more anxious, I guess.

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And I looked across. I looked across the super dark

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other side of the road, and I just said, is

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that you?

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Speaker 2: And when I did not a.

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Speaker 4: Second past and a tree knock rang through what felt

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like my head, my neighborhood. I was surprised that no

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one else here, if they could, I immediately was super scared.

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I was like, I messed up. I don't know what

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I'm getting myself into. Basically, I'm a I'm a I'm

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an army veteran, so not everything scares me. But I

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straight ran the thirty feet back into my house. That

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was my very first experience. The uh after that, it

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just up until now even uh nothing I can nothing, I.

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Speaker 4: Visual sighting, but lots of lots of like glunts as

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I walk around I guess you could say glunts as

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I walk around the lake for just your you know,

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regular exercise, and so you know that's just my my

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little beginning, but it just kind of brings the question

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for me, at least when you start looking for them,

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do they start looking back?

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Speaker 1: I think when yes, It's kind of like the story

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everyone shares is when you get that new car and

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you're focused on it, you're going to start seeing all

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the other cars that are the same model, Right, you

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start focusing and then yeah, you're gonna notice, Oh, that's

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kind of a weird wood knock, or the tree got

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pushed over, or it smells weird around here, or hey,

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this story I heard happened five minutes away from my house.

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Speaker 2: And are so are you from?

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Speaker 1: Like, and we don't have to get super specific, but

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it's like south of Saint Louis like that weird area. Yep, Yeah,

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that area is crazy. I mean what like is a

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Saint Francois County. I've heard some stuff from there. I

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mean you've got Mark Twain and all that crazy stuff.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Mark Twain is pretty busy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So is it a thing where you are are actively

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going out and and trying to look for stuff or

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you're just kind of noticing stuff around maybe your property?

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Speaker 4: Uh, A little bit of both. When I have time,

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I go out I spend a lot of time with

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those guys you know down south as well, So, uh,

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you know, it's a it's a it's a.

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Speaker 1: Mix of bowl gotcha, gotcha, and just curious because you

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know you've had you've heard the stories too. So when

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you talk about the things that are happening at the

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greenhouse property, is there one experience or or story associated

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with that that sticks out that you might be able

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to to share.

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Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I mean I don't want to. I don't

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want to tell all their stories.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that at they.

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Speaker 4: Want to talk to you as well. But uh, probably

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probably the very first one from the guy when he

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when he told me his his first sighting, it wasn't

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it was a full on I think you guys call

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him a class a encounter.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: That he was working out in his greenhouse. He was

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paying no attention I guess to to basically anything else.

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I don't know exactly what he was doing, but I

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guess he walked out and something something maybe whistled at him.

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He looked up and I guess something you know, maybe

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nine eight or nine foot is what he said. I

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can't remember exactly, stepped out of the woodline, looked looked

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him dead in the eyes, and Ordad and m and

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then turned around and walked away. He ran inside, obviously,

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and he's not a small guy. He's not a small guy.

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By he ran inside and was almost you know, couch

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ridden for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: It seemed like, wow, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that dad, and he has he has experience with

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another type as well. Uh that that does sometimes mess

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with his greenhouse. That has definitely damaged his greenhouse. And

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and that's as far as I'll say for that. Right,

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Some some things, some things are so friendly.

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Speaker 2: No, I I totally get it.

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Speaker 1: You need to have your your wits about you and

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be aware of what's going on out there, because you know,

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sometimes it can be super friendly. Sometimes you just you

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got to be ready for anything. So man, yeah, I

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I appreciate you coming out, and thank you for helping

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me test to make sure that this is running and

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you know, hopefully we can have some good times over here.

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But yeah, thank you, thank you so much. Man, appreciate

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you coming up and sharing your encounter, and thank you

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for listening to the show.

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Speaker 4: No problem, man, you have a good rest of your.

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Speaker 2: Day, you too.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, there we go. Fantastic Missouri. So I

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got to get a little little thing to hold my

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phone because that's going to get that's going to get

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pretty not comfortable. I believe I got another call, so

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I'm going to check with that person.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: We're going to give this individual a callback here. Hi,

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is this Rebecca Awesome? Yeah, I was giving me a callback.

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Thank you for calling in. I'm just trying to see

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if I can do a call on show. And it

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sounds like it worked. And so were you calling in

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with the Bigfoot story you've got?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, I really was taken by it. I don't

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know what questions you have.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with if you want to, you know, share

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your experience how it started out, if you feel comfortable

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with sharing the area of the country or in the

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time frame and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, it happened about two or three years ago. At

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the time, I was teaching kindergarten and I'm retired now,

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and I usually take about sixty e's you know, because

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it's right in front of my house into Charleston. It's

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about a thirty five minute ride, and then you have

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a thirteen.

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Speaker 8: Minute ride from where I live to any kind of town,

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you know, it's.

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Speaker 6: I called You're in the woods kind of it's kind

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of out and I was setting up a hill and

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it was really dark, and this bigot came out of

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nowhere and I had never He was brownish collared, reddish brownish,

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and he was running towards my car and he was

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like in the stripes in the middle of the road.

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He was chasing something and he got really close to

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my car, and I mean just right there. I just

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I had a really good look at him, and he

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looked very he was tired. He was chasing something, maybe

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a deer, and he couldn't catch.

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Speaker 8: It in My car was in the way, so he.

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Speaker 6: Started running down the middle of the road towards my car,

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but he didn't touch me. I just got a really

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good look, and I was startled by the time I

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got to work and just sat there. I want to

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work early to get things done in the classroom, and

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I couldn't get anything done because I couldn't believe what

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I had seen.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 8: So that's the story, and I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 6: I was telling everybody I just saw Bigfoot. So I

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never thought about ever seeing one. Said a little bit

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of research on him. I found out the pretty intelligence,

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the pretty smart I think the government had captured one

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if I'm right, and he escaped. But I could tell

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this was a male and he just looked really hot

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and really tired.

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Speaker 8: To face.

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Speaker 6: He had the facial expression of just tired, you know

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he was because he was whatever he was pursuing was

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getting away. I'm I'm a believer now, totally, totally.

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Speaker 8: You cannot.

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Speaker 6: I know what I thought, and it's it just makes

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me wonder about them because they know about us. We

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know less about them.

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Speaker 8: Because they are so they'd like to not be seen,

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you know, because I guess they.

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Speaker 6: Fear us in some sort of what sort of way?

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I know they're very territorial. That's all I have to

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say that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that. That's incredible. Is that Charleston,

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West Virginia.

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Speaker 6: Well, Charleston is where I fought. I am from. I

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was living in Cologning, which is thirty five minute drive,

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you know, and it's kind of one of the country

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road mostly, And yeah, it's.

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Speaker 8: Close to Charleston.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And how long would you say that you were

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able to look at it for?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I had a really good look at him. I wasn't scared.

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I was more startled because he was running down the

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middle of the road towards my car, and you know,

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like the strikes of the middle of roads, and I

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could have hit him and he could have got you know,

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he just ran towards me. But he didn't hit my car.

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I mean, he would have told him he because I

478
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,720
was one pretty fast and but he I would say,

479
00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:45,160
I got a good three or four second look at him.

480
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,200
I mean I got a full bough and look at him,

481
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,200
you know, and I saw the expressions. It's just almost

482
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,599
like human like the face, you know, and he had

483
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,880
the auburn brownish hair, you know. But he didn't seem

484
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,839
to me like he was after me or anything. I

485
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,119
just kind of caught him in the middle of pursuing

486
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,400
whatever he was pursuing.

487
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that makes sense.

488
00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:14,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't afraid of him. He just startled me,

489
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:18,000
you know. Oh yet, and I never thought about him.

490
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,079
I do believe in him now, I mean totally. And

491
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,240
there has to be moms, I mean, you know, females

492
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:26,359
and males until you know, teenagers, I mean, they have

493
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,640
to have families like we do. They just are very

494
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:33,759
uh what would you call it recluse right exactly. You know,

495
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:37,119
we're kind of going in their territory, you know, and

496
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,119
when you get close to them, they start making no noises,

497
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,960
knacking up. That's what I hear here.

498
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

499
00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: Didn't have a certain way of running. Did you notice

500
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,400
anything weird about the way it was running down the road?

501
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 6: He was running really fast towards me, just like a

502
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:56,920
human went run. He was just like he looked like

503
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,359
he because he was taller than my car. So I

504
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,480
would say he's good.

505
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: At least, thanks for Okay, gotcha.

506
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,839
Speaker 6: Very clearly in my head life and the side of

507
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:07,160
my car.

508
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,599
Speaker 2: What kind of what kind of car were you in?

509
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,559
Speaker 6: I have a Nissong and then I have a cat

510
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,519
bac now, but I have a Nissan in twenty nineteen

511
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,759
Nissan Ultimum.

512
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so so you you are in a four door

513
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,279
Sedan type deal.

514
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then.

515
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: You're you're there, and from from how you were sitting

516
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,400
in the car, like, what were your what was your

517
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,160
viewpoint at? Was it far enough away that you were

518
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,200
able to see all of it when it was running

519
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,559
towards you.

520
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 6: I saw him running towards me, and I saw he's

521
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,799
right beside my car.

522
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,359
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I mean he just ran.

523
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 6: I got good look at him.

524
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: Gotchas running in the middle of us.

525
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,079
Speaker 6: And our driver's side is in the you know, on

526
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:56,160
that side where the strikes are. And that's why I song.

527
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:59,119
That's how a song. Yeah, I got a good look

528
00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,839
at him.

529
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: And you mentioned kind of startled. Absolutely, I would be too.

530
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:08,240
You mentioned you saw some emotions in its face.

531
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,039
Speaker 6: Well, he looked as if he was he was panting,

532
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:14,559
you know, he taught. You could tell he was really

533
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,640
running and what he was taking something. And I got

534
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,680
my car got in away, so he ran down the

535
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,000
middle of the road. He didn't I guess he opted.

536
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,359
Speaker 8: Not to cross it in kind of my car because one.

537
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 6: Process it would have told him my car out and

538
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,000
would have heard him pretty bad.

539
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: Oh, it would be really bad.

540
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you I remember so you said it was

541
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,599
only for a few seconds, But do you remember any

542
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:41,279
features of the face, like if you were to tell.

543
00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 9: It was a blake, okay, like him like to like

544
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,839
a cross between both you know, I mean, because of

545
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,799
this how he was so you could tell he was.

546
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:55,319
Speaker 6: Taught, and he was running fast, you know, and he

547
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,920
he just think he was panting, you know, and so

548
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,240
he had, you know, expression on his face, and he

549
00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:06,079
wasn't even patting any attention to me. He just got

550
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:07,400
out the way to the car, you.

551
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 8: Know, and kept on towards my car the side of it.

552
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:12,039
Speaker 2: Yeah.

553
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 9: Absolutely, there was no car coming his way, so he

554
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:17,960
was he was trying.

555
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 6: To get across the street, I think, and my car

556
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:23,960
got in a way. I startled, and I'm pretty sure

557
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:24,440
I did.

558
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: What was the number one thing you remember about him

559
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:31,720
that made you think, Yeah, what I'm looking at is

560
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,960
a big foot and not just a really big human.

561
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,119
Speaker 6: Hair and how big he was and just the face

562
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:42,279
had no hair, you know, not as much hair. He

563
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,400
just looked. I mean his expression was human like, you know,

564
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,400
and he's just big, he said so much that they

565
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,039
have hair, and the color of his hair was like

566
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:58,680
an auburn redish brown, you know. Okay, yeah he was.

567
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't.

568
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 6: I was just so startled. I mean, I'm lucky I

569
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:04,799
made to work, you know, and off that.

570
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: Deal that I was, Oh, I'm sure, like, how did this?

571
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:11,960
How did this affect you afterwards? After this experience?

572
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 6: I have Air Force training. I'm retired Air Force, you know,

573
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,759
I know how to react in rough situations, you know,

574
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,839
and I kind of got a hold of myself, you know,

575
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,920
so okay, keep going, just don't look back. You know,

576
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,519
he'd have to run after me. Began out of thinking.

577
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:30,200
I think my car will go faster than he could.

578
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,480
You know, if I had to, I get out running.

579
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,599
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure would you ever want to have an experience

580
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:36,920
like this?

581
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,039
Speaker 2: Again, it wasn't bother me at.

582
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 6: All, because it didn't he didn't seem like I mean,

583
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:46,880
I don't you know, I can't since the sense of

584
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,960
spirit because it's so quick. But I mean, I think

585
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:53,759
that it's how we approach them, you know, we approached them.

586
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:58,119
We start the very I think they're territorial, and you

587
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,839
know that's why the guys on the prior to me,

588
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,359
he said he heard the banging and things like that.

589
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,960
Maybe he built somewhere where they live. You know, we're

590
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,400
close to and they're very territorial because they protect their

591
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,359
families just like we do, you know, and they have

592
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,839
that the deer that's their food and they're meat eaters.

593
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 5: You know.

594
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,799
Speaker 6: I just think sometimes we're going in their territory and

595
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,400
they really don't know us, because I think they're afraid

596
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,160
of us, you know. It would be nice if somehow

597
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,680
we could contact them and you know, use their language

598
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:38,559
to let them know where out there to hurt them.

599
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,000
But I'd like to see more studies on it. But

600
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,480
I don't think that.

601
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 8: I think the government taught one one time.

602
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 6: I don't know about I heard about.

603
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,759
Speaker 2: It, you know, I've heard stories like that as well.

604
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,839
Absolutely right, and I don't know.

605
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 6: If that's true. And they took him to Greenland or

606
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:03,359
with the Greenland and he escaped, so also they go

607
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:06,119
through portals. I don't know. I don't know that much

608
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,519
about it.

609
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of information out there.

610
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,240
I've talked to a few guys in the military, a

611
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:18,599
few veterans, and I mean about things they've experienced, and

612
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,559
it was so intense they didn't end up coming on

613
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:23,799
the show because.

614
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean they're scared.

615
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,079
Speaker 6: It's serious of us. If we are Aventah, it's a

616
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,519
more circle of us because we carry weapons and they don't.

617
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:39,640
You know, they carry I mean they carry sticks and

618
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,680
they can put down pull down trees, you know, because

619
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,480
they're very strong.

620
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,559
Speaker 8: But I think they're afraid of.

621
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 6: Us, you know, that's why their recluse.

622
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: I think at some times you're You're absolutely right. Was it?

623
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,319
Speaker 1: Another question I had for you was so you mentioned

624
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:58,440
that there is no hair on the face. Was the

625
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,200
rest of it covered in here?

626
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: Then?

627
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:05,039
Speaker 6: Yeah? Oh yeah? All over his body?

628
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes.

629
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 6: I didn't get a good look at his hands. I

630
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,760
just you know, his upper tors so I saw his

631
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,559
body running from me. But I got a really good

632
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:14,639
look at his face and was on in his front. Yeah,

633
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:15,920
he was, Harry, very Harry.

634
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,159
Speaker 1: Absolutely. The last thing I want to ask you is

635
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:24,079
have you ever done any looking around to see if

636
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:27,320
there's other people that have had similar experiences where you

637
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,320
had your experience?

638
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: No, because people here just don't believe me. They laugh,

639
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,159
you know, and I'm like, Okay, well, I know I saw.

640
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,480
I saw what I saw, and I know the area.

641
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:43,079
One time I had came through there around five in

642
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,440
the morning and I saw cows laying all over the road,

643
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,719
so that that kind of surprised me. On each side

644
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,239
of the road, they weren't in the road, they were

645
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,000
on the side of the road. So the man that

646
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,960
had those cows right in his pasture, somehow they got

647
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,199
out of that pasture and they were all dead, and

648
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,679
I had to go around them.

649
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: Oh, I remember that one more.

650
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 6: Really dark, you know.

651
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they were not alive and they were all

652
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:09,280
over the place on the side of the road.

653
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 6: No, And I wanted to go up to just because

654
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,800
it's up on the hell, you know, and say, hey,

655
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,920
your ChEls are lad in the roads here on the

656
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,039
sides of the road. But I did not. Just went

657
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:22,039
on to work because I have, you know, twenty one singergardeners.

658
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,599
I have to see the house. But oh no, you know,

659
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:26,920
I have seen a lot. Those are the two things

660
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,000
I ran on patting or so.

661
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: That's that is some wild, wild stuff.

662
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: Rebecca, thank you so much for for coming up and

663
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:43,280
for sharing your experience. You're welcome, and thank you for

664
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,760
listening to the show. I appreciate it fantastic. Well, this

665
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,199
is working out pretty good. It's working out really good.

666
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,880
I do need to get one of those I need

667
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,360
to get a little thing I can put my phone on,

668
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,559
because that's going to get uh, that's going to get

669
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:00,440
kind of rough. Not that it's a word thing, but

670
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:02,760
you know, I'll just put a little tripod there. I

671
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,840
wanted to Where is it? John? Thank you so much

672
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,199
for your five dollars donation. Love your show too. Appreciate

673
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,800
that man. Thank you the bigfoot Dwarf for being a

674
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:23,360
great mod right now, he's taking care of business. Hi Luienne, Hi, Hi,

675
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,159
this is Jeremiah.

676
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:28,159
Speaker 10: How are you, Hi, Jeremiah, I am fine.

677
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: Hey, awesome. Feel free to share what's on your mind there.

678
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,679
Speaker 10: Okay, well this just happened yesterday.

679
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,599
Speaker 8: Now I live on the Cumberland Plateau where you were

680
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,239
recently allegedly.

681
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,079
Speaker 6: Allegedly.

682
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know who told you, queen.

683
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, we were traveling between Sparta and Cross Yes, ma'am,

684
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,119
just on Highway seventy okay, broad daylight, and all of

685
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:58,440
a sudden, the traffic starts walking up. You know, you're

686
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,880
the uh little airport there, municipal Airports.

687
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 6: We're like, what is going on? Is it an accident?

688
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:09,559
Speaker 10: And so we get, you know, closer up and we

689
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:12,760
move and they start telling us we need to go,

690
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,360
you know, the.

691
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 6: Cops, that we need to go on a back road.

692
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 10: And we look and a tree that is green with leaves, not.

693
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,039
Speaker 6: A rotten old tree.

694
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 10: And mind you, we have not had any weather of

695
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,480
any kind for a week okay at all.

696
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 6: This tree is.

697
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:41,599
Speaker 10: Pushed over onto the power line over the highway and

698
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:44,159
I'm just like now you do the math.

699
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,599
Speaker 6: What makes a.

700
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,599
Speaker 10: Green full of green leaves tree get pushed over like

701
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:54,119
that when there's not a breeze, there's been no weather,

702
00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:56,960
just out of the blue.

703
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: That's wild.

704
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean that it makes you really think, because that

705
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,480
area is so wild for activity, as.

706
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 10: You know, I think somebody had to be in their

707
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,119
bonnet and decided to give a little.

708
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 6: Back to mankind.

709
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 10: M somebody got ped, you know, and decided to push

710
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,239
over a tree.

711
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 6: Because there's no other way that happened. So I just thought,

712
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,639
I just thought.

713
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: I'd let you know I appreciate so between Sparta and

714
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,719
Crossville just recently, right, yes, yesterday, Oh my goodness. Well, well,

715
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,400
well there you go. Listeners should be aware of that

716
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,960
area and who knows what's out there in the woods.

717
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,039
Maybe pushing stuff happens. So thank you for coming in

718
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:47,559
for calling in, ma'am.

719
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,599
Speaker 6: Sure, no problem, Jeremiah.

720
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,119
Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. Oh my goodness.

721
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Well there we go, okay, And yeah, I will say

722
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,960
the Cumberland Plateau is pretty wild.

723
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: Alleged good stuff.

724
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:09,519
Speaker 7: My name is Gary Saunders. I grew up in a

725
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:19,000
small town in the Arbuckle Mountains and my dad, my dad,

726
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000
he was more or less my mentor growing up in

727
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:26,679
the woods. At the age of three, I was coon hunting,

728
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:33,719
so I've been all over the mountains down there. But

729
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,440
my dad told me a story back in about nineteen

730
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:41,320
sixty five. This is before all the bigfoot craze was out,

731
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:52,840
and this story involved a creature that he could not identify.

732
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:56,639
Him and my uncle they were coon hunting. They had

733
00:39:56,679 --> 00:40:04,159
four or five hounds with them and they were they

734
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,960
were in the Arbucca Mountains and they were going across

735
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,519
a field that had briars that my dad said that

736
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,719
they had to use lights to get through. In Oklahoma,

737
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:22,559
briar patches are crazy. And he said they made it

738
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:27,840
through the briars and they and they got into the

739
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,800
woods and the hounds took off, and he said, about

740
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,199
twenty minutes later they were about a quarter mile into

741
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,639
the woods. He said, all the hounds come back to

742
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,920
them with the tails tucked between their legs. He said,

743
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,199
he told my uncle that he was he was heading

744
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,280
back to the truck. Something wasn't right. He said that,

745
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:55,880
he said they were. They kept hearing things behind them,

746
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:01,360
and he said he turned around, turned around at one

747
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,519
sound and he saw He said he saw what it

748
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:06,480
looked like to be an eight or nine foot tall

749
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:13,320
man standing behind beside a tree. So they they took

750
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,480
off and he said, whatever this thing was was following

751
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,960
them through them briars with no light on, he said.

752
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,199
He said they were having trouble getting through them, and

753
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:29,519
he said, this this thing was wrapped behind him. So

754
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:34,079
they they made it back to the truck. Everything he

755
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,199
said he didn't he didn't see it. See it again.

756
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,519
But the interesting thing about this story is this was

757
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:48,280
before all the Bigfoot craze. I think the reason my

758
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,639
dad told me this story, it wasn't to scare me.

759
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,440
It was to let me know that there was things

760
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,039
out in the woods that he didn't understand. And that's

761
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:04,480
what scared me because because my dad, my uncles, they

762
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:08,440
they lived in the woods, They lived fishing on the river,

763
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:13,280
they hunted on the river all down through there. So

764
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,920
I mean, this this made me think. And then all

765
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,440
this stuff coming out about Bigfoot later, it was kind

766
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,599
of crazy because I mean, this was before he told

767
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:38,960
me this, before Bigfoot sighting in California. Also another incident,

768
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,119
him and my uncle were hunting in another place and

769
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:46,760
there's an old boy scout cabin up there. He said,

770
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,679
about two o'clock in the morning, he heard what he

771
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:56,400
thought was a double bit axe hitting a tree. And

772
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,360
this is out in the middle of nowhere. He said.

773
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,519
He got up, got his light and walked around every

774
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,639
tree around the place trying to figure out where this

775
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:14,480
sound was coming from, and he never heard it. So

776
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:23,679
down in that area there is it's just forced for

777
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,000
all you can for as long far as you can see.

778
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,719
Another interesting thing as my great uncle, he was a

779
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:43,119
government trapper back in the day, and I mean he

780
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,760
was all over the woods. He had I mean he

781
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,960
collected Indian artifacts and he probably had I don't know,

782
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:58,360
ten thousand Indian artifacts. But my dad told me that

783
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:04,800
one day he saw him down at the store and

784
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,519
he told my dad and my uncle that he was

785
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:13,199
done trapping. He said, if if they wanted his traps

786
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:15,559
to go get them off the trap line, he wasn't

787
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:22,159
going back anymore. So something had scared him. I'm not

788
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,119
sure what it was, but he would never talk about it,

789
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:29,599
and my grandfather said that he wouldn't even tell him

790
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:33,880
what was going on. So there's something in that area

791
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:41,400
that I don't know what it is, but it's there's

792
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:49,280
definitely something there. And I have hunted and walked up

793
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:55,679
where my dad and uncle were on the mountains when

794
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,800
my dad heard that knocking sound. And you can go

795
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:04,639
up through there and about a half mile up the creek,

796
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:12,079
everything just goes quiet, no bird sounds, nothing, and you

797
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:18,880
always feel like something is watching you up through that area.

798
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:25,039
I don't hunt at night anymore. It's been years and

799
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:28,239
years since I've been coon hunting, and I probably ain't

800
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:35,039
gonna go back anymore because the woods aren't the place

801
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:36,199
to be at night anymore.

802
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,559
Speaker 1: And why would you say that the woods aren't the

803
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,880
place to be at night anymore? Is that because of

804
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,079
the stories that you heard growing up or was there

805
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:51,679
another situation that laid into that.

806
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 7: It's a combination of both. I mean, there's been too

807
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,840
many sightings that and all these people can't be wrong.

808
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:12,639
And it's not only that in this area here there's

809
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:18,079
there's a not only do you have that, but you

810
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:23,000
also have a big cat sidings and now we're getting

811
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:26,159
bear coming into this area and the wild hogs. So

812
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,880
it's just better stay out of the woods at night.

813
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: That makes sense, I mean.

814
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: And and even on top of that, I mean it's

815
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,559
not a thing we focus on in this show, but

816
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:40,719
if you listen to other cryptid shows this the area

817
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,400
of Oklahoma, it's not just Bigfoot. There's other you know,

818
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,159
cryptid things down there, as people seeing dogmen down there.

819
00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:50,719
There's all sorts of really weird stuff. And then there's

820
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,159
you know, I mean, I'm looking at the map of

821
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:56,480
where you are, and I remember hearing a story where

822
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:00,320
closer to the Texas border, there's an area where like

823
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:04,000
tigers have gotten loose from game farms, and now you know,

824
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:08,559
people have to be allegedly looking for tigers in the

825
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:13,360
area down by the river, and that's one of the

826
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,320
WMA's down there, I think. But so Gary, you you know,

827
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:24,679
your background is you're an outdoorsman, hunter, fishermen, and you're

828
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:27,679
also a veteran. So how old were you when you

829
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,199
first started hearing these stories from your father?

830
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 7: Well, I'm sixty six years old and I was about

831
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,960
five years old. Okay, So this was back in nineteen

832
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:43,880
sixty five, and I believe, I believe the California Bigfoot

833
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,960
come out in sixty seven.

834
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the main you know, that that main big

835
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,320
push that most people know Bigfoot for was the Patterson

836
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,800
Gamblin film in sixty seven, So it is it is

837
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,199
prior to that, which is pretty amazing. So when you

838
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,079
were growing up and you're hunting and fishing down in

839
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:08,960
these areas in Oklahoma, you know, how did hearing these

840
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,880
stories as a really young child, how did that affect

841
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,679
you as you started to grow up into an outdoorsman?

842
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 7: Well? Right, at first, it really didn't affect me. I

843
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:29,960
mean I still went hunting, fishing, camping. But then then

844
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:35,440
later in life, you know, all these sightings started coming out,

845
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,519
and that's what kind of got me what thinking about

846
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:46,000
all this? You know, there's I mean, now you can't

847
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:49,119
hide anything, you know, I mean, it's all out and open.

848
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:55,440
People have cameras and video footage of all this. So

849
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:59,679
then I started, you know that that's what starts affecting me.

850
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if the.

851
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:11,119
Speaker 7: Government's governed this up or why they would, but I

852
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:13,119
mean people need to know that there's things out in

853
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:15,519
the woods that you know, they may be friendly or

854
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:16,320
they may not be.

855
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll tell you this much.

856
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,679
Speaker 1: I've talked to at least one park ranger off record

857
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,000
that has regular encounters with these things.

858
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,159
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have a.

859
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: There's a lot of individuals that say that are like,

860
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,599
give me a rain check for when I'm retired, and Gary,

861
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:40,440
the amount would really make your head spind but you

862
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:42,519
probably can imagine it's a large amount.

863
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: It's wild. It's just absolutely wild. What so you're you're

864
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:51,039
in this area, and.

865
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,079
Speaker 1: What's the most have you heard recently any people having

866
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,679
encounters still in this area or is it a thing

867
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,800
where you know, it's been a while since you've heard things.

868
00:50:03,559 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 7: It's been a while. I've got a buddy, he manages

869
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:15,960
ranch and he haunts hogs, and he's really not said anything.

870
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,119
You know, he hasn't saw anything down in that area,

871
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,039
and he's pretty much out there, probably two or three

872
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:28,480
nights a week, i'd guess, hunting dogs. But I believe

873
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,000
there's something out there. I mean, if you look at

874
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:35,239
the history of Oklahoma and look the chalk Taw, Bigfoot

875
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:40,000
or that wasn't far from here from where I'm at now,

876
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,880
then you've got hanobia incident?

877
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,119
Speaker 2: Do you acts? Absolutely?

878
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,199
Speaker 1: And there might be some people that do not know

879
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,960
of the uh And there's a few ways to say,

880
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,320
I haven't been there yet, but I know that there's

881
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,840
hope now be there's there's anobia. Uh, and that's a

882
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,400
whole that's a whole conversation itself. But what is when

883
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,119
you think of the the situations that they have dealt

884
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:14,760
with down there, Uh, what what is your understanding of

885
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,000
what happened in the.

886
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: Area.

887
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,639
Speaker 7: Well, the guy down there, there was two families, two

888
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:31,679
brothers in there, and these things started appearing. And and

889
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,400
not only did these two guys see it, but the

890
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,599
guy's granddaughters and his whole family member. I guess they

891
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:43,880
saw these things. And these guys they were I guess

892
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:51,159
they were coaching deer, and these things started robbin nur freezer.

893
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,079
Well then it turned into a shooting war, and and

894
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:02,599
they they that they kill one and we're going to

895
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,480
go out and look at it. And four others jumped

896
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,800
out from the woods and took off.

897
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: With this, saying, so, yeah, it is. It is one

898
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,159
of the most intense stories. And you know, of course

899
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:25,519
it was. It happened early two thousands, I believe, so

900
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:29,199
more than twenty years from you know, it's twenty six

901
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:35,000
right now, twenty twenty six. It's very interesting. I've never

902
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:40,039
been to the area. I hope to go someday, but

903
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,400
I actually had a gentleman on the show a month

904
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,960
or so ago, and he was telling me he owns

905
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,639
a cabin in the area. And so one of the

906
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:52,440
main parts of the whole now story is that they

907
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,920
were trying to get into the cabin to get to

908
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,679
they thought to get to like the woman children, right,

909
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,559
and they were trying to get in there, and that's

910
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:06,880
really what things got bad. So the thing is is

911
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,480
that current day, twenty twenty six, I talked to an

912
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,519
individual where there are there's there's a point where there

913
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:20,280
was a bigfoot that actually tried to get it, tried

914
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,519
to get into his cabin, open the door. They see

915
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:25,599
it around the property. But he's also talked to other

916
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:28,280
people in the town where they are trying to get

917
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,199
into their houses as well. So this is not just

918
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,679
a thing where it happened back twenty years ago. In

919
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,679
a way, the siege is still going on, but maybe

920
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,320
a little different than than the original. It's a it's

921
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,559
a wild, wild story.

922
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I.

923
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: Could say a few few different areas around Oklahoma, and

924
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,440
just curious if you've ever heard of any any stories

925
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,880
or anything, and if you haven't, that that's no sweay.

926
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,719
Oklahoma has so many, so many interesting places. Have you

927
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,880
ever heard of anything happening down by the Thackerville area

928
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:15,679
in the Red River of Oklahoma? No, I haven't, Okay,

929
00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:18,679
And how thow McGee Creek?

930
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 7: Gee Creek is not far from here. I think McGhee

931
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,440
Creek areas right in that area is where the chalk

932
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:32,880
Taws had their war with the big Feet.

933
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: Got you?

934
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,559
Speaker 1: And have you ever heard of anything happening around the

935
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,199
Lake Texoma area? And I know that's a huge area,

936
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,800
but uh, there's a lot going on down there.

937
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:51,199
Speaker 7: There's a recent recent siding down by Durant, which is

938
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:58,880
not far from Texoma. I guess they were on a

939
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,679
uh where the our line come through. They were down

940
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:10,559
by the lake and and they saw this creature in

941
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:12,199
the cut.

942
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,079
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that because they were looking around. They

943
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:22,639
were looking across a river at it right right, yep, yep,

944
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,800
I do remember that. That was that was a wild one.

945
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,519
Have you ever heard of anything happening Let's say, if

946
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:37,039
you were to draw a square from La Floor over

947
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,480
to the Arkansas border and then.

948
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: Down to let's say.

949
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: Zaffra on the border, and then that goes across to

950
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,840
Honabi and Octavia and all that I know that's a

951
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,320
big square, but there could be some stuff going on

952
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:56,840
in there.

953
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 7: I haven't heard of any recent.

954
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 2: Sidings, gotcha, gotcha.

955
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,119
Speaker 7: But if you if you look at the chalk tall

956
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:17,000
uh bigfoot war m hm, the floor, the floor county

957
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:23,039
one of the floors was killed during that and then

958
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:26,239
the rest of the Indians come in and I guess

959
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,719
they killed all the Bigfoot there. They were still in

960
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,840
women and children, and they had a pile of bones,

961
00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:38,800
human bones and stuff. I mean, that's I guess that's

962
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,800
chalkdaw legend.

963
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's really wild.

964
00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: I've it's one of those legends where I have talked

965
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,079
to individuals where it's like they're on either side. Some

966
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:53,679
people are like, yeah, it's it's totally real. Some people

967
00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:56,239
are like, I don't know, could just be a legend,

968
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,559
but it's it's it's a fascinating story either way.

969
00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:04,599
Speaker 7: I think, well, here's the thing on the floor. He uh,

970
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:09,719
he was pretty prominent person during back during them times.

971
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 2: He was a.

972
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 7: He was a lawyer. So I'm not sure that story

973
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,400
don't carry some truth to it.

974
00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: Gotcha. Now, based on.

975
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:32,719
Speaker 1: What you've heard growing up in this area, So maybe

976
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:35,079
you talk to people over the years and just you know,

977
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:38,880
experiences you've had. Do you have any leaning as to

978
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,960
what you personally think Bigfoot might be? There are so

979
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,079
so so many different ways to look at what what

980
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:48,599
it is.

981
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: You know.

982
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 7: I have saw reports where uh here samples they took

983
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:04,800
had like human DNA in it. M you know, a

984
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,760
lot of people think it's this big gorilla. I don't

985
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:15,360
think that's true. I think maybe the Neanderthals didn't die out.

986
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,880
Are there another branch of human that we haven't discovered?

987
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:25,920
These things are smart, you know. I think they're a

988
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:32,880
lot smarter than like a gorilla.

989
00:58:34,199 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: I would say, uh, one hundred percent, there is. And

990
00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:45,239
I think some people get really a lot of humans,

991
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,320
I think, uh, a lot of let's let's wear that differently.

992
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,960
A lot of people in our culture kind of get

993
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,239
a little bit scared or been out of shape if

994
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,400
they think or to think that there might be something

995
00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:05,199
out there smarter than we are. And I think that

996
00:59:05,239 --> 00:59:09,239
we have to get to come to terms with that

997
00:59:09,239 --> 00:59:13,400
that there could be absolutely something out there that is

998
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:18,840
either as smart as us or even smarter. Because man,

999
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,239
the things that you hear, the accounts that are told,

1000
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:28,599
and I mean even experiences where Okay, so there's something

1001
00:59:28,639 --> 00:59:33,039
out there that can make people freeze or make people

1002
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:35,760
walk the way they don't want to. And these go

1003
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,199
all the way back to Native American stories passed down

1004
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,360
over the years. It's really wild stuff. But Mike, Goodness,

1005
00:59:44,599 --> 00:59:50,119
Oklahoma is just so so full of intense, intense things.

1006
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:52,599
Is this something where you would ever want to have

1007
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,039
a sighting of it yourself like your father and your

1008
00:59:57,159 --> 00:59:59,559
uncle did back in nineteen sixty five.

1009
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 7: I'd like to see it. I don't know how close.

1010
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:06,960
I don't want to get to it, but I'd like to,

1011
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:09,360
you know, know, one way for the or the other.

1012
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,800
But I don't think these things are actually smarter than humans.

1013
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,039
I think they just have a different way of a

1014
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:24,119
different way about them. You know, how they haunt, how

1015
01:00:24,159 --> 01:00:25,440
they how they.

1016
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:30,559
Speaker 1: Think right and and you know a few people over

1017
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:35,079
the years have contemplated where I think if if they

1018
01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:38,119
think if you were put out in the woods and

1019
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:44,119
with no tech and it was just survival, get food,

1020
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:48,239
and it's really just survival. I mean, how your senses

1021
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:51,199
would change, what you would focus on, what senses would

1022
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:56,320
become even clearer or more defined with with tech and

1023
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:00,559
schedules out of the way. I mean, it's it's definitely

1024
01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:03,440
something to think about. But I had more than a

1025
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,719
few people talk to me about that before.

1026
01:01:06,039 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 7: So I think whatever these are have evolved with capabilities

1027
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:21,559
that we don't have. I mean, how did they hunt deer,

1028
01:01:23,159 --> 01:01:26,079
you know, with no weapons?

1029
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: Right right exactly?

1030
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,679
Speaker 1: And I mean, man, I've heard some I think the

1031
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,039
wildest thing I've heard come out of Oklahoma as a

1032
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:38,719
gentleman I talked to I'm not going to say his

1033
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,360
name because I can't remember if I used it in

1034
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,880
the interview, is years ago where he had heard a

1035
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,159
story coming out of southeast Oklahoma. The guy was up

1036
01:01:48,159 --> 01:01:54,400
in his tree stand and he saw these bigfoot chasing

1037
01:01:54,679 --> 01:02:00,199
some hogs below them, and one took a hog it

1038
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:05,440
up and swung it against the oak tree and broke

1039
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,119
his back to kill it. As just wild. I mean,

1040
01:02:08,119 --> 01:02:12,679
you hear stuff like that, just breaking backs and you know,

1041
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,920
ripping limbs off deer and stuff that's like really kind

1042
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,599
of hard to hear, right, I mean, but it's it's

1043
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:22,079
really intense survival stuff when you think about it.

1044
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 7: So also, uh, there's a podcast about over in Missouri

1045
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:37,280
and this old farmer he you know, he said he

1046
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:42,199
found deer with broke legs. They just bront broken legs,

1047
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,920
you know, just hobbling around.

1048
01:02:45,159 --> 01:02:46,559
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you're talking about.

1049
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,599
Speaker 7: I mean, if you think about it, that's pretty smart.

1050
01:02:51,679 --> 01:02:54,840
You know, if coming to her deer and you're able

1051
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,039
to kill, you know, kill one to eat, and then

1052
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:02,000
you crippled two or three more for kind of like refrigerator,

1053
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:04,960
you know, the wooden refrigerator exactly.

1054
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,719
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing, are you talking about miguel sasquatch theory,

1055
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,440
the killing fields down.

1056
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,159
Speaker 2: In Missouri killing fields? Yeah, exactly.

1057
01:03:14,239 --> 01:03:20,599
Speaker 1: I mean, Oh my goodness, I.

1058
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 4: I had it.

1059
01:03:19,679 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: I was going down there with him last.

1060
01:03:21,639 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: Year and it didn't work out at the last second

1061
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,960
on my side. So someday, hopefully once I get back

1062
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,440
out there, that's going to be on the list. Because man,

1063
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,320
if you I love watching Miguel's videos and they are

1064
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,239
getting some wild stuff down there. It is a very

1065
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,960
very intense area down there in Missouri where where that

1066
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:50,039
gentleman's property is. But my goodness, Gary, this has been

1067
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:56,880
a fun conversation about really southern Oklahoma and and what's

1068
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,519
going on down there. And I think this is one

1069
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:01,400
of those where it might lead to some other people

1070
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,119
coming forward. You know, if there's people listening that are like, hey,

1071
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:08,320
I experienced that in the same area, or I've heard

1072
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,360
of that, you know, definitely reach out. You can send

1073
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,760
me an email at Bigfoot Society gmail dot com is

1074
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,639
the best way to reach me.

1075
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: But Gary, I want to.

1076
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: Make sure that you were able to share everything that

1077
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:23,079
you came to the show to share today. I pretty

1078
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:28,320
much it fantastic. Well, thank you so much for coming on, sir,

1079
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:32,360
and it's been it's been a great kind of break

1080
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,000
for me from everything that's going on, and I hope

1081
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,440
it was. It was a good time for you. But

1082
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,800
feel free to reach out if you ever hear anything

1083
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,039
else going on down there.

1084
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 7: All right, I sure will. I keep my ear to

1085
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:53,320
the ground around here. This phenomenon kind of I don't know.

1086
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,960
It just intrigues me. You know, we've got a cryptid

1087
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:03,320
out there that I know many many people have saw

1088
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,079
and we don't know what it is.

1089
01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:10,599
Speaker 1: I agree, and I hope that someday we're able to

1090
01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:15,239
figure out what's going on but also keep it safe

1091
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:18,599
as well. I think it's that's how I viewed conservation.

1092
01:05:18,719 --> 01:05:21,639
But thank you, thank you, Yanger. I'm going to go

1093
01:05:21,639 --> 01:05:24,159
ahead and stop stop recording here, all right, thank you.

1094
01:05:25,639 --> 01:05:27,920
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1095
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,199
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1096
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1099
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1100
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strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

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1102
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1103
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you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

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1107
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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

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1110
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,400
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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1113
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,119
anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1114
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,920
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1115
01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:43,199
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:46,119
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1117
01:06:46,159 --> 01:06:51,920
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1118
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,320
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