Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka colored a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots Jupe ram It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank
you for telling a friend.
Speaker 3: That's how we spread the word about the pirate ship.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm excited about today.
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes a small innocent moment on the Internet
accidentally opens a full blown existential conversation.
Speaker 4: Full blown.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A few weeks ago, a friend of mine, someone you
may remember from the podcast, posted something on Facebook that
fell simple enough.
Speaker 2: It really did.
Speaker 3: She wrote that she had two beautiful, successful girlfriends who
couldn't find a man. They were fun, loyal, smart, and single.
She asked interested men to comment, not message, and said
the women would browse Facebook and reach out if they
found someone intriguing. YEP, it already feels like a really
bold experiment to me, and kind of like a group project.
None of us asked for what happened next. Over two
hundred and fifty comments, not DM's comments.
Speaker 4: I'm going to pull up the total views because I
can see that internally?
Speaker 2: Okay, how you keep going public?
Speaker 3: Men putting them out there themselves out there, women watching quietly,
married friends grabbing popcorn. They were all on there, group chats,
lighting up like it was a live sporting event.
Speaker 5: Nineteen thousand local people, holy shit, clicked red stock.
Speaker 4: But didn't you know leave a ca so nineteen thousand.
Speaker 5: Wow, I was at a part and people like kid
just everybody was talking about and browsing the men.
Speaker 2: So what does it say about dating right now?
Speaker 3: About loneliness, about standards, about starting over in your late
thirties and forties, when you're confident enough to know what
you want but tired enough to not want any kind
of bullshit. This episode isn't about answers. It's more about
the curiosity. And Stephanie is here someone who's life changed
in very real ways from the time we spent together
on the podcast a couple of years ago. I don't know,
I think this is like crazy what happened, But I'd
rather go back to kind of to you because we
had you on the podcast and you were one of
the most popular people.
Speaker 4: I had so much fun and.
Speaker 2: You were not dating at the time.
Speaker 4: Well I was dating.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you were dating, but you weren't serious with somebody. Yeah,
you weren't serious with somebody, and then you met Mike,
right yeah, and from there, I mean, that's been how
many years now, we'll be.
Speaker 4: Together three years May first, Wow?
Speaker 2: A lot of time, yeah, by yeah.
Speaker 4: And you see love coming on the show.
Speaker 2: You're welcome any time. You know that.
Speaker 3: There was always open, but like, and I didn't want
to have the whole crew in for this because I
kind of wanted to take a look at this in
a little bit of a deeper way and I didn't
want them, you know, well, the jokes flying.
Speaker 4: And someone we can you on the phone set. I
don't want any penis jokes fly.
Speaker 2: And that's I think I said. I don't want any
dick jokes, is what. I know. I know what And
it's just that because it's a serious thing. But going
back to you, you're the real estate is blown up
for you.
Speaker 4: I saw this record sale. Wow at Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, I got.
Speaker 5: An offer accepted for five point two million dollars. Oh
my god, the personal record. So I just posted it today.
Speaker 4: It took me a.
Speaker 2: Good Is that the blue House? Yes?
Speaker 4: God, it's just beautiful where is it Canada.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm the lake yeah, oh my waterfront.
Speaker 5: Oh but it was such a big career when I
didn't want to brag about it. I didn't want to
make other realtors feel bad about themselves. And I also
didn't want normal consumers not to call me to list
their house because I think, oh, my house is just
four hundred. No, I would love to list your house
after fifty whatever. Yeah, so I didn't want to push
people away. But then so month passes, I'm like, I
really should talk about this because this is a career milestone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I sold the five million dollar lake house a close.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 4: And I love what I do. I love all price points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I understand that, and and and in real
estate you have to write you're not you know?
Speaker 2: Is that one you know?
Speaker 3: Or are there people who diguess just dealing a million
plus fro some sell.
Speaker 4: To a year, that's it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, five million dollars lake houses, that's cruise control. Yeah,
so I can do higher volume selling fifty and make
more money.
Speaker 4: Sure, And a lot of people will.
Speaker 5: Think, oh, just because you sell an expensive house, you're smarter,
you're better.
Speaker 4: You're not.
Speaker 5: It just maybe you're just you're you have connections, you
got to all kill, you sell a couple of year,
and you're happy you're part time. I like the grind
and I like to help everyone, and I want to
be busy and stop. I do twelve to eight and
hour days in the spring and I love it. I'm
not complaining, no, I know, and I like the grind.
Speaker 3: I there's something about that because I had to come
to terms myself with a lot of things in terms
of you know, it isn't about working harder. It's definitely
about working smarter. But when you love what you do,
you're going to just do it all the time. And
I think for many, many many years for me, I
have just worked NonStop radio. I did all the time
because I wanted to be I wanted to be the best.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be number one.
Speaker 4: While you're pivoting, though.
Speaker 3: I am pivoting, and I'm and I'm I'll tell you
like I'm looking to you. I'm changing things up for sure,
and I'm looking to combine some things and I'm looking
to make something that is less of a service and
more of a system and something that's scalable. So you
know what, I mean like service to me is we're
talking about today's news, today's sports today is.
Speaker 2: That it's disposable. It's what radio was this.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking to pivot away from that slightly a
little bit and do more things like this or I
didn't help people, yes, and that's the thing, and I
just did one.
Speaker 2: I had a night.
Speaker 3: Where I got extremely intoxicated the urinal night.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes. I was so drunk.
Speaker 3: How bad I mean, I was slurring so badly in
that video that was the opening of Damien's second location. Yeah, okay,
so I uh so I was so drunk and there
was so much stuff happening sort of at once that
I was very cold to someone that I didn't mean
to be via text, via text, and the next day
I apologized. I got no response, and then I sent
a text later in the day just about something completely.
Speaker 2: Different and that's how we are. And then I.
Speaker 3: Got a response. A couple of days I got a response,
and the response was basically like I'm crushed, you crushed
me or whatever it was, so which made me feel
like piece of shit, and I backed off.
Speaker 2: And just let I go. I don't want to apologize,
so I started happened.
Speaker 3: No, I understand. So I didn't want to be one
of these I apologize.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I already apologized, right, you become that To me, that's
sort of a sign of weakness when you start doing
that over and over. But it made me really think,
and so I came in here and I did a
podcast on alcohol and why it's not an excuse for
bad behavior. Alcohol doesn't make you behave badly. It gets
rid of your internal brake system, which is your inhibitions,
and so you do things and say things and some
people go, well, it's not a truth serum.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's just in the moment.
Speaker 3: And a lot of times we carry a lot of
baggage as people, and when something is in front of
you and that old baggage gets hit and you've never
dealt with it, it carries a lot of weight and it
comes really hard, right, And so those are the things
that you know, And so I did a whole podcast
on that. I'm like, this is the direction they need
to circle.
Speaker 5: And that's why I don't have the baggage. If you
have it, you can get rid of it by talking
to someone that do like a couler.
Speaker 2: Yes, and eventually that.
Speaker 4: Though, so you're more pleasant drunk.
Speaker 3: I mean that's right exactly. I mean so, I don't know.
It was just it was strange, but I thought, that's
kind of the way I need to start doing things
that are ever green. What if someone finds this podcast
in five years will have value to them.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that's where I'm that's where I'm headed,
And I eventually want to buy a building. I want
to put offices in there that I can rent out.
I want to put studios in there. I want somewhat
of an event space, and we'll.
Speaker 2: Go from there.
Speaker 4: I just thought of some wild idea. What if there's
people that want help, but they'd be willing to publicly
raise their hand and you help them, Yeah, on the
air live.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I meant it could be like a journey of their transformation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be amazing. That would be absolutely amazing.
And I think that's something that like you could do
as a teachable.
Speaker 4: And that would tie in with both businesses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and That's what I'm looking to do. And so
we'll see how things go down the road. When you
were here last I don't remember actually but when you
were on sometimes we had made a lot of fun
of the fact that you wrote songs.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, break up songs and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4: I've been writing songs with my whole life.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and did nothing with them or what.
Speaker 4: The problem is. If I'm honest, my voice is like
a six point eight out of ten.
Speaker 5: Okay, and now there's so much technology, just like filters
with a girl looking hotter. Yeah, I can put filters
and edit my voice.
Speaker 4: So the tech is here.
Speaker 5: Where it can be me singing and Mike actually does
it in the background, adjusting my voice to sound good
like auto tuning, but you don't want it to sound fake.
And then there's me training it where I'll like work
on a couple of notes then he can make it.
Speaker 4: So it took forever.
Speaker 2: It was a year and a half, a year and
a half to to write.
Speaker 5: So I have breakup songs, I have songs about getting
old and what it's like to go at the bar.
But I actually wrote a song about loss, like losing
a child, or you could apply it to losing like
a love, like a spouse or a partner.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When you say loss, like are you talking death?
Speaker 3: Are you talking all different kinds of so even loss
of like a divorce or a right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's not a lot of songs about like,
for example, if you have a miscarriage, you know, or
you lose a two year old?
Speaker 4: What what song do you jam out to?
Speaker 5: And I know that sounds weird, but when I'm in pain,
I like to belt, cry and sing. And the Arms
of the Angel just isn't getting it, like it's it's
kind of lame.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, there's not no because nobody wants to
get who's writing these songs?
Speaker 2: I am fucking sad.
Speaker 5: I am so I wrote a sad song about loss,
and now I mean it's done, it's fully produced.
Speaker 4: I'm going to have a different stage name. I've decided.
I'm not ready to quite announce it in case I
go direction. But actually this weekend and next weekend, Mike
and I are going to film the music video.
Speaker 2: Uh to our song, and we're gonna.
Speaker 4: Fully I'm gonna put on Spotify iTunes like.
Speaker 2: You are for it, like really for real, And I don't.
Speaker 4: Care if thirteen people see it or what if it
blows up? Why aren't we starting that business? Why aren't
we asking that girl? Out, why aren't we dancing? Like
why why are we happy?
Speaker 3: That's a great I mean that's so true, and and
I think, like that's a great way to get into
your your podcast thing, because uh, why aren't you asking
that that girl out, that guy out, that personnel, whoever
it is, because yeah.
Speaker 4: You have to lose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's absolutely amazing. And that
was because I'm going in my head when I saw that,
when I saw the with the post that you put up,
I was like, what was the moment, Like why, because well,
you decide to post that, but why aren't they doing
it for themselves?
Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying going to your.
Speaker 3: Theory that you just said or your your statement of yeah,
why aren't you asking that guy out?
Speaker 2: I know one of.
Speaker 5: The women chased, they want to be chased and then
they like to chase.
Speaker 4: Sure they do, and so over the holidays.
Speaker 5: I mean these one of the very successful, Like I'm
like too hot, and there's not a lot of hot
successful men that.
Speaker 4: Are and good in our town.
Speaker 5: Like there's got to be some guys all over the country.
They could clean up if they they moved here. And
I was at an event, and I looked around and
I think I counted thirty eight like hot women, like
the way they.
Speaker 4: Dressed and like hot. And I looked around and I
saw two handsome men the thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And if you really go out at a bar, like
look at the good looking women that come in and look,
there's a lot of trolls, and look at the guys
on my post.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Just some I'm like, you think you're hot and successful
and these aren't gold diggers. But the problem is is
they want somebody bigger than them, and.
Speaker 2: Actually who does these ladies, yes.
Speaker 5: Right, because they want a guy that has worked harder
than they have, because they still want.
Speaker 4: To be inferior in some way. They don't want to
be the leader.
Speaker 5: Some guy wrote on there that these women are messing
up with the balance of some big fancy word the
way society is supposed to be that they're dudes. Yeah,
but so like that was firing women up. But the
natural but he's right on some level, or the natural
level is the men are supposed to be the breadwinner leaders.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean some people will get upset and say that's
a misogynistic thing.
Speaker 2: You have to be confident.
Speaker 3: I think that I think that's the one thing that's
really missing for most people is confidence and not so
much cocky. And I think confidence comes more with age.
Cockiness is when you're younger, right, and because it's almost
a mask for what you should be confident about, but
you're not. And I think you know that confidence comes
with age and not everything is a put down to you,
a slam to you. No one's here to really fuck
with you like that, you know what I mean. And
so when you see a woman who's successful and she
does well and she busts her as fraid, why but yes,
I understand, I do.
Speaker 5: And then so I had kind of messages of some
guys that are more like total package and they're embarrassed,
they're afraid to say interested.
Speaker 4: They're like, well, if they're hot, send them my screen Screensho.
Speaker 2: Why why do you think that was?
Speaker 3: Because they don't want their buddies to know their jobs because.
Speaker 2: It is kind of public.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was public, you know, and they don't want
to get made fun of.
Speaker 4: So so many people chickened out. But I did have
some successful matches.
Speaker 5: Then there's the whole like the fifty two year old
man with let's just say fat slobby ex wife that
he was never getting sex.
Speaker 4: Let's just say she was a letter.
Speaker 5: What he wants some young hot girl that doesn't have babies.
He wants to go hook up with the smoke shows
and a lot there's a lot of girls. They'll buy
their way through.
Speaker 4: Hey, you want to leave a ton, I'll take you
out to dinner and the girl will get the purse
and like they're going through their horror.
Speaker 5: Face and then they realize, I need a woman I
can connect with.
Speaker 4: There's more than that.
Speaker 5: It's a face, So what face do you catch the
guy in? He's got to burn through the young hotties
and then he gets more realistic and then it's like
who is he gonna grab up? And when is he ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like do women do that as well?
Speaker 1: They do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they find like the guy, Yeah, sure, Like they.
Speaker 5: Want the young, hot, dumb guy that they're like, oh,
buy you a ticket to Miami.
Speaker 4: They do the same thing. They're trying to spoil it too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they they joke they want the hard private
parts in the six pack, you know, and then they realize, wait,
this is embarrassing to my children, or I didn't want
a guy that knows how to fix something, or someone's
more my age, and they go through the same thing, right,
so it's already a small pool. And then what phase
are they at.
Speaker 2: And what phase are they at? Well, yeah, because I think.
Speaker 4: You got to have the balls and ask them out.
Speaker 3: Are there more middle aged single people today? That's what
surprised me was the number on there, because I did
see comments and uh, the one woman commented, I'm fifty eight,
retired in Brighton, which is a suburb of here. She's
so nice and divorced, right and so okay, and.
Speaker 4: She's out if anyone reached out to her, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, oh somebody else. I wish my friends would
do this for me. Then somebody says put out there
about one of their longtime friends, and it said it's
hard out there. Everyone I meet just wants a hook up. Bye,
by no, thank you.
Speaker 4: Here's the hookup fase.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. Uh, it's interesting that it just
hit with so many people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you'll have like the guy, let's say
he's forty eight, maybe he's super successful. He's done with
her face, but he's running his company and he's he's
got a full on Dad Bob. But then the girl
who's super successful forty one is like, ew, I'm slaving
away at my body, eating you know nothing, and you
got this gut right, And then they'll be mad they
don't take care of their health. And I'm like, you're
gonna throw away the guy because of the gut. He's
got everything else. And then I'll find a perfect fucking.
Speaker 2: Mad I that I want that on a T shirt.
I throw away the guy for the gut. He's got
everything else. The fuck it's a gut.
Speaker 5: I But then so then I'll suggest to the guy
my friend that's perfect, and he's like, oh, I mean,
maybe she's got fifty pounds overweight, and he's like, I
wanted someone hotter. It's like so much vanity is taking
place too.
Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, I saw.
Speaker 4: I felt that the private messages were like, yeah, I
was hoping for someone more fit or someone hotter. And
then poor guys when they lose their hair.
Speaker 5: You got a shit ton of hair, but that's the thing,
like ew, he's like he's like balding, you know.
Speaker 4: And then there's a lot of guys, believe it or not.
I am really I can't wait too.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you if it's real.
Speaker 4: Fake lips, uh, fake faces. Yeah, and I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand that.
Speaker 5: I think going through a phase now where I think
men are starting to want more real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I find something about a confident middle aged woman.
Speaker 2: I I and I can's you, I know, but I
and I know.
Speaker 3: And I've also seen like where I can almost sense
that they're on the same vibe because they'll give.
Speaker 2: It you get a second look energy. I don't know
what it is. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just wonder with the working
on yourself, I think everyone says they do it, but
are they I'm working on myself?
Speaker 2: Are you? And how? And what is that?
Speaker 4: I think I have the answer.
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Are they approachable?
Speaker 5: And I think why I talk to so many people,
especially single I talked to anybody, I'm a goofball.
Speaker 4: I'd be the one like headbanging that it's like easier
to talk to Y versus the girl that looks like.
Speaker 5: The model of the body that just got out of
the portial, you know, like you know that might be
more intimidating.
Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely, And I told them I'm like.
Speaker 4: You guys need to like be a little goofy. And
I've actually.
Speaker 5: Told this to maybe five of them, like why don't
you make a post.
Speaker 4: Where you don't have makeup on? Or you do something silly.
They're also like, oh, like just like you know, show
some personality.
Speaker 3: Right, because a lot of times not being perfect. Yes,
and I think there's there you hit the nail on
the head there approachable. Well, it makes you more approachable,
but it also makes you more human, right, you don't
come off so much as like this two stuff.
Speaker 4: Guy's going to think I'm not that perfect?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: What is she going to think of me?
Speaker 5: Right? And my Jenny shirt watching football scratch and my
belly on a Sunday.
Speaker 3: You know, I come from a family of men who
would put on a suit to get the mail. My dad,
my grandfather, and I have always liked more or less
not today, you got me? I was, you know, not today,
But I would rather wear a blazer and jeans and
a custom made shirt.
Speaker 6: Or you're a dress up gut I would love to Really,
I didn't know that about casual dress up though, I
mean not not like n we'll call it business casual, right,
But I still know that when I go places like that,
you're kind of looked at, like no, but you look
like you stand out.
Speaker 3: And I'm not always looking to stand out, but I'd
rather dress nicely and presentable. Everybody today, I mean even
in schools they're wearing like leggings and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all cover, it's all cover, but of it. No, no,
it's fine. But my point is like, well, look at you.
You have the blazer.
Speaker 3: Run right, it dresses, but it dresses, it dresses it
up right, you look great. So I just think that
also raises your confidence. You feel better about yourself, and
you know what I mean, it's dressed for the I
would say, dress for the person you want to impress,
you know what I mean, or whatever.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: The other thing is too, is I always go it's
an inside job. And if you're not confident about yourself,
or you don't feel good about yourself, or you even
worked out your shit, you're no good to anybody.
Speaker 2: You're going to be the.
Speaker 3: Same miserable person with the same type of person that
you've been with. You know, you whatever about an ex
wife or an ex husband, and the next thing you know,
you got somebody who almost I mean they may look
very different on the outside, but they are absolutely very
similar on the inside. Or with whatever behaviors or whatever,
the lunatic bullshit that you said you were sick of
dealing with is what you deal with.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta find the thing.
Speaker 3: And I would say even taking some time alone, like
truly alone, and you know, not your whore phase, not
your whatever, just alone to kind of work on yourself.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I there's something to note here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 5: Lot of middle of the road vanilla people living like
I'm not saying they're bad people, but I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to.
Speaker 5: Hook up the r gene worker with the physical therapist.
Speaker 2: There's that's that's normal.
Speaker 4: Normal.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about I have some exceptional.
Speaker 2: I think you have to do at you're.
Speaker 4: Looking for some exceptional. Now, I have normal friends.
Speaker 5: I love the whole world and the whole variety of
everyone on earth. But this was about finding my exceptional
like mega hot, mega rich put together like.
Speaker 4: It's harder. There's a lot of middle, is what I
I'm saying. There's a lot you're you know, in the middle.
There's a lot to choose from.
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of the time to post something publicly,
for even the guys to answer, the guys with the
like the guy with the cat, I mean, it takes
a little bit of guts, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, let me scroll if I can find
the picture of the cat.
Speaker 4: The boy some of the like, oh oh jeez, do
you find it? There's so many. I mean, this is
just one friend.
Speaker 3: It's a reminder that so many people, good, interesting, emotionally
aware people are still out there trying. I think that
that's kind of the thing they're trying, and maybe we
should all go back to when we dated, when we
were young, and I like, really kind.
Speaker 5: Of those one friend. Okay, and this is kind of
where it starts. I just answered, so let's see how
quick he responds.
Speaker 4: I had a weird feeling that he might wait because
he said he has his kid.
Speaker 5: So like she's waiting for the response, and she's like,
you know, now, she's wondering, does what if he doesn't
think she's cute?
Speaker 2: Okay, really yourself out.
Speaker 5: She's nervous, and then she goes, I'm gonna leave the
guy's name out. That one guy's going after everyone. He's
not even attractive, and she's just doing like all.
Speaker 2: These laugh faits laugh.
Speaker 5: Wow, he's nice to me, but he's he's crazy and
he has a lot of issues.
Speaker 4: And this one guy, she's like, ew gross.
Speaker 5: Like taking screenshots of the guys. The bow tie guy
must not have gotten any messages because now he's adding
a date to Patron Saint's.
Speaker 2: Date to the steakhouse.
Speaker 4: He was like, I'm interested. Now he's like if I'm interested,
Patron Saint and all.
Speaker 5: So like we're noticing, like who's like leveling up their posts, Like,
oh my god, I saw that.
Speaker 4: Wow, herd has hell No, what the fuck?
Speaker 5: The one he looks like he should be in a
crime documentary for bodies in his basement, zoom in on
the swimsuit model poster on his wall, covering all the
speckle of that like this is just one friend.
Speaker 2: No, I saw that.
Speaker 3: I saw that picture and I did zoom in to
see it, Like I was shocked.
Speaker 5: The swimsuit poster had me rolling its screams I still
live with my mom.
Speaker 4: I sleep in my childhood bedroom.
Speaker 2: Well this was good. He's ripped.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's too hot. He's gonna want one of your
hot friends in the thirties.
Speaker 5: So now she feels like that one guy was too hot,
like it just comments. So when they're too hot, she's like,
you're not gonna want me.
Speaker 4: I'm almost fifty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, that's some examples.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: There's also something deeply human about wanting a connection, right,
I mean add that to me and not wanting to
feel dramatic or I don't know, well even dramatic for
wanting it, just wanting.
Speaker 2: The human connection. I mean, I think that's important.
Speaker 4: I just maybe I love human connections.
Speaker 5: So even when I'm single, at the bar, I sit
at the bar in the restaurant, not at the table
because I want to talk to people.
Speaker 3: Think about this for a second, because you're you are
different in terms of that stuff, right, You're different, and
especially about the women you're talking about, I don't think
they're like that. So maybe dating isn't harder today.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I'll say that because there will say it's harder
because there aren't enough options. That's kind of what's come up,
right that that seems to be what's come up. And
I wonder maybe it's harder because there's more noise and
there's more performance. There's the botox lips, there's the you know,
you understand, and more of this is fine energy when
it's not fine.
Speaker 4: I think men have to raise.
Speaker 2: On themselves.
Speaker 4: Women have to lower their expectation one percent. I think
that's the problem.
Speaker 2: I wish we did.
Speaker 4: Girls are too picky and these guys step it up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, maybe playing video games instead of going
to the gym when you're forty three and single, isn't the.
Speaker 4: Maybe batter yourself and I laugh because like those white.
Speaker 3: New Balances, all.
Speaker 4: White socks are in style.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the hot girls will wear like the white
New Balances with the tall white socks.
Speaker 3: Okay, the hot girl, the hot girls, Yeah, but it's
usually the it's the sixty plus guy. I used to
call them grilling shoes, and I would say they came
they came with like stabilizers on the side so they
would come out.
Speaker 2: But now hot girls are worms to have told you.
I see I have Facebook. No, I'm oh my god.
Speaker 4: Now my dad thinks he's cool.
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's really funny. I'll say. Maybe it's moments like.
Speaker 3: This that are a little chaotic, right, this whole thing
that you did a very public They're reminders that connection
doesn't always come from swiping.
Speaker 2: It's just right.
Speaker 3: It doesn't always come from swiping, yeah, and sometimes it
comes from saying something thing out loud and seeing who's
brave enough to respond to it.
Speaker 4: But there was a lot of brave men and somewhere
good middle of the road catches.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I hope one of those women
would message them.
Speaker 3: But they're all afraid, afraid to message the guy. Afraid, Right,
we got to have the app where the women make
the move first. Oh, actually they have that. They haven't, No,
we're oh they have that?
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, girls get pissed off and guys don't use
accurate pictures.
Speaker 2: Well they flow out of course of course.
Speaker 5: You know, you take a lot of complaints on that,
Like they'll be like, oh, his pictures from twelve years ago?
Speaker 4: What the fuck is scary?
Speaker 2: I'm not messaging him.
Speaker 5: How do you know it's from twelve years Is it
chosen Facebook when your profile pick was last updated?
Speaker 2: So they the hell?
Speaker 4: You know like it that. Women assume you're ugly if
you don't put pictures.
Speaker 5: So even the guy, it's like guns, car jets, goods,
car jets, go bills, go bills.
Speaker 4: It's like, well, what do you fucking look like you
must be We assume you're ugly.
Speaker 2: They all do.
Speaker 4: He's got no pictures. He's a troll. The guy could
be hot, but that's just society. Like, why isn't he
posting himself?
Speaker 3: Well, most guys aren't gonna do selfies. Women do way
more selfie but.
Speaker 4: They could have like the guys at the bar.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying, like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because no pictures is the red flag.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and you I could read you pages of Yep,
he's got no pictures.
Speaker 4: He must be bad. Yeah, there could be cutches out there.
We don't know this is true, but yeah, so it's
Stephanie Christen.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay on Facebook, scroll a.
Speaker 5: Couple down and they can see the.
Speaker 4: Post so they can maybe go shopping.
Speaker 2: So this is a middle girl, a middle guy have
a fucking.
Speaker 4: Field day because there's no hobbies with jets and six packs.
There's no flours on there. You're normal.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait, wait wait wait, there's.
Speaker 3: No force or oh fours, I think you said four.
Speaker 4: With a jet. I got They're just a lot of metals.
Speaker 2: Actually, there's there isn't in the world. That's the problem,
Like you know, there isn't in the world.
Speaker 4: There's so many hot checkcent everywhere.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because women take care of themselves better,
I can't say where is the problem? Yeah, well get
out of guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, well it's to the gym, guys and girls.
Speaker 2: Fucking message first, Stephanie. Uh, it's always great to see you. Goddamn.
It's just like I love when you do things like this.
It's my favorite. It's my favorite.
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens when the song gets released.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for that either.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be it's put myself out.
Speaker 2: There, Yeah it is, but that's not anything new.
Speaker 5: No, but I a song, a real song, not to
advertise a house.
Speaker 3: I understand, But you put yourself out there with the
videos and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So I think this will be great. I can't wait
to see it where it goes.
Speaker 4: I gotta see how long it takes us to make it.
Speaker 3: And in the meantime, I'll say wherever you are in
your own story, single partner, divorce, starting over, happily, avoiding
dating altogether. I really hope this conversation made you feel
a little less alone in that and maybe just maybe
a little less weird for wanting something real.
Speaker 2: Right a little.
Speaker 4: I have a field like, go find your person on there, ladies.
Speaker 3: Go find your person for Stephanie Kristen. I'm Bill Moran.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: It must the bean that doesn't know the warnings. It
wasn't warning to get it.
Speaker 4: It wasn't one dodging it.