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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka colored a podcast from the Mac

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of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor

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Chrysler Dots Jupe ram It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank

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you for telling a friend.

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Speaker 3: That's how we spread the word about the pirate ship.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm excited about today.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes a small innocent moment on the Internet

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accidentally opens a full blown existential conversation.

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Speaker 4: Full blown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: A few weeks ago, a friend of mine, someone you

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may remember from the podcast, posted something on Facebook that

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fell simple enough.

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Speaker 2: It really did.

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Speaker 3: She wrote that she had two beautiful, successful girlfriends who

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couldn't find a man. They were fun, loyal, smart, and single.

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She asked interested men to comment, not message, and said

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the women would browse Facebook and reach out if they

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found someone intriguing. YEP, it already feels like a really

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bold experiment to me, and kind of like a group project.

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None of us asked for what happened next. Over two

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hundred and fifty comments, not DM's comments.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to pull up the total views because I

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can see that internally?

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Speaker 2: Okay, how you keep going public?

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Speaker 3: Men putting them out there themselves out there, women watching quietly,

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married friends grabbing popcorn. They were all on there, group chats,

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lighting up like it was a live sporting event.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen thousand local people, holy shit, clicked red stock.

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Speaker 4: But didn't you know leave a ca so nineteen thousand.

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Speaker 5: Wow, I was at a part and people like kid

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just everybody was talking about and browsing the men.

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Speaker 2: So what does it say about dating right now?

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Speaker 3: About loneliness, about standards, about starting over in your late

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thirties and forties, when you're confident enough to know what

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you want but tired enough to not want any kind

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of bullshit. This episode isn't about answers. It's more about

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the curiosity. And Stephanie is here someone who's life changed

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in very real ways from the time we spent together

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on the podcast a couple of years ago. I don't know,

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I think this is like crazy what happened, But I'd

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rather go back to kind of to you because we

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had you on the podcast and you were one of

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the most popular people.

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Speaker 4: I had so much fun and.

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Speaker 2: You were not dating at the time.

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Speaker 4: Well I was dating.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you were dating, but you weren't serious with somebody. Yeah,

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you weren't serious with somebody, and then you met Mike,

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right yeah, and from there, I mean, that's been how

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many years now, we'll be.

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Speaker 4: Together three years May first, Wow?

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Speaker 2: A lot of time, yeah, by yeah.

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Speaker 4: And you see love coming on the show.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome any time. You know that.

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Speaker 3: There was always open, but like, and I didn't want

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to have the whole crew in for this because I

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kind of wanted to take a look at this in

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a little bit of a deeper way and I didn't

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want them, you know, well, the jokes flying.

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Speaker 4: And someone we can you on the phone set. I

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don't want any penis jokes fly.

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Speaker 2: And that's I think I said. I don't want any

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dick jokes, is what. I know. I know what And

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it's just that because it's a serious thing. But going

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back to you, you're the real estate is blown up

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for you.

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Speaker 4: I saw this record sale. Wow at Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, I got.

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Speaker 5: An offer accepted for five point two million dollars. Oh

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my god, the personal record. So I just posted it today.

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Speaker 4: It took me a.

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Speaker 2: Good Is that the blue House? Yes?

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Speaker 4: God, it's just beautiful where is it Canada.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm the lake yeah, oh my waterfront.

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Speaker 5: Oh but it was such a big career when I

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didn't want to brag about it. I didn't want to

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make other realtors feel bad about themselves. And I also

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didn't want normal consumers not to call me to list

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their house because I think, oh, my house is just

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four hundred. No, I would love to list your house

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after fifty whatever. Yeah, so I didn't want to push

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people away. But then so month passes, I'm like, I

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really should talk about this because this is a career milestone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I sold the five million dollar lake house a close.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's impressive.

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Speaker 4: And I love what I do. I love all price points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I understand that, and and and in real

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estate you have to write you're not you know?

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Speaker 2: Is that one you know?

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Speaker 3: Or are there people who diguess just dealing a million

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plus fro some sell.

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Speaker 4: To a year, that's it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, five million dollars lake houses, that's cruise control. Yeah,

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so I can do higher volume selling fifty and make

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Speaker 4: Sure, And a lot of people will.

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Speaker 5: Think, oh, just because you sell an expensive house, you're smarter,

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you're better.

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Speaker 4: You're not.

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Speaker 5: It just maybe you're just you're you have connections, you

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got to all kill, you sell a couple of year,

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and you're happy you're part time. I like the grind

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and I like to help everyone, and I want to

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be busy and stop. I do twelve to eight and

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hour days in the spring and I love it. I'm

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not complaining, no, I know, and I like the grind.

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Speaker 3: I there's something about that because I had to come

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to terms myself with a lot of things in terms

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of you know, it isn't about working harder. It's definitely

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about working smarter. But when you love what you do,

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you're going to just do it all the time. And

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I think for many, many many years for me, I

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have just worked NonStop radio. I did all the time

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because I wanted to be I wanted to be the best.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be number one.

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Speaker 4: While you're pivoting, though.

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Speaker 3: I am pivoting, and I'm and I'm I'll tell you

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like I'm looking to you. I'm changing things up for sure,

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and I'm looking to combine some things and I'm looking

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to make something that is less of a service and

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more of a system and something that's scalable. So you

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know what, I mean like service to me is we're

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talking about today's news, today's sports today is.

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Speaker 2: That it's disposable. It's what radio was this.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking to pivot away from that slightly a

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little bit and do more things like this or I

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didn't help people, yes, and that's the thing, and I

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just did one.

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Speaker 2: I had a night.

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Speaker 3: Where I got extremely intoxicated the urinal night.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes. I was so drunk.

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Speaker 3: How bad I mean, I was slurring so badly in

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that video that was the opening of Damien's second location. Yeah, okay,

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so I uh so I was so drunk and there

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was so much stuff happening sort of at once that

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I was very cold to someone that I didn't mean

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to be via text, via text, and the next day

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I apologized. I got no response, and then I sent

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a text later in the day just about something completely.

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Speaker 2: Different and that's how we are. And then I.

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Speaker 3: Got a response. A couple of days I got a response,

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and the response was basically like I'm crushed, you crushed

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me or whatever it was, so which made me feel

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like piece of shit, and I backed off.

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Speaker 2: And just let I go. I don't want to apologize,

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Speaker 3: No, I understand. So I didn't want to be one

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of these I apologize.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 3: I already apologized, right, you become that To me, that's

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sort of a sign of weakness when you start doing

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that over and over. But it made me really think,

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and so I came in here and I did a

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podcast on alcohol and why it's not an excuse for

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bad behavior. Alcohol doesn't make you behave badly. It gets

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rid of your internal brake system, which is your inhibitions,

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and so you do things and say things and some

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people go, well, it's not a truth serum.

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Speaker 2: It's not. It's just in the moment.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of times we carry a lot of

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baggage as people, and when something is in front of

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you and that old baggage gets hit and you've never

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dealt with it, it carries a lot of weight and it

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comes really hard, right, And so those are the things

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that you know, And so I did a whole podcast

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on that. I'm like, this is the direction they need

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to circle.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I don't have the baggage. If you

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have it, you can get rid of it by talking

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to someone that do like a couler.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and eventually that.

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Speaker 4: Though, so you're more pleasant drunk.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's right exactly. I mean so, I don't know.

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It was just it was strange, but I thought, that's

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kind of the way I need to start doing things

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that are ever green. What if someone finds this podcast

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in five years will have value to them.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that's where I'm that's where I'm headed,

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And I eventually want to buy a building. I want

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to put offices in there that I can rent out.

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I want to put studios in there. I want somewhat

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of an event space, and we'll.

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Speaker 2: Go from there.

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Speaker 4: I just thought of some wild idea. What if there's

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people that want help, but they'd be willing to publicly

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raise their hand and you help them, Yeah, on the

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air live.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I meant it could be like a journey of their transformation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be amazing. That would be absolutely amazing.

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as a teachable.

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Speaker 4: And that would tie in with both businesses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and That's what I'm looking to do. And so

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we'll see how things go down the road. When you

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of the fact that you wrote songs.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, break up songs and all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 4: I've been writing songs with my whole life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and did nothing with them or what.

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Speaker 4: The problem is. If I'm honest, my voice is like

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a six point eight out of ten.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and now there's so much technology, just like filters

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with a girl looking hotter. Yeah, I can put filters

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and edit my voice.

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Speaker 4: So the tech is here.

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Speaker 5: Where it can be me singing and Mike actually does

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it in the background, adjusting my voice to sound good

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like auto tuning, but you don't want it to sound fake.

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on a couple of notes then he can make it.

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Speaker 4: So it took forever.

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Speaker 2: It was a year and a half, a year and

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a half to to write.

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Speaker 5: So I have breakup songs, I have songs about getting

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old and what it's like to go at the bar.

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a child, or you could apply it to losing like

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a love, like a spouse or a partner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. When you say loss, like are you talking death?

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Speaker 3: Are you talking all different kinds of so even loss

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of like a divorce or a right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's not a lot of songs about like,

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for example, if you have a miscarriage, you know, or

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you lose a two year old?

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Speaker 4: What what song do you jam out to?

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Speaker 5: And I know that sounds weird, but when I'm in pain,

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I like to belt, cry and sing. And the Arms

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of the Angel just isn't getting it, like it's it's

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kind of lame.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, there's not no because nobody wants to

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Speaker 2: I am fucking sad.

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Speaker 5: I am so I wrote a sad song about loss,

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and now I mean it's done, it's fully produced.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to have a different stage name. I've decided.

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I'm not ready to quite announce it in case I

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go direction. But actually this weekend and next weekend, Mike

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and I are going to film the music video.

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Speaker 2: Uh to our song, and we're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Fully I'm gonna put on Spotify iTunes like.

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Speaker 2: You are for it, like really for real, And I don't.

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Speaker 4: Care if thirteen people see it or what if it

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blows up? Why aren't we starting that business? Why aren't

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we asking that girl? Out, why aren't we dancing? Like

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why why are we happy?

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Speaker 3: That's a great I mean that's so true, and and

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I think, like that's a great way to get into

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your your podcast thing, because uh, why aren't you asking

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that that girl out, that guy out, that personnel, whoever

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it is, because yeah.

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Speaker 4: You have to lose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's absolutely amazing. And that

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was because I'm going in my head when I saw that,

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when I saw the with the post that you put up,

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I was like, what was the moment, Like why, because well,

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you decide to post that, but why aren't they doing

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it for themselves?

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Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying going to your.

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Speaker 3: Theory that you just said or your your statement of yeah,

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why aren't you asking that guy out?

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Speaker 2: I know one of.

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Speaker 5: The women chased, they want to be chased and then

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they like to chase.

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Speaker 4: Sure they do, and so over the holidays.

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Speaker 5: I mean these one of the very successful, Like I'm

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like too hot, and there's not a lot of hot

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successful men that.

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Speaker 4: Are and good in our town.

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Speaker 5: Like there's got to be some guys all over the country.

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They could clean up if they they moved here. And

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I was at an event, and I looked around and

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I think I counted thirty eight like hot women, like

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the way they.

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Speaker 4: Dressed and like hot. And I looked around and I

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saw two handsome men the thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And if you really go out at a bar, like

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look at the good looking women that come in and look,

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there's a lot of trolls, and look at the guys

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on my post.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Just some I'm like, you think you're hot and successful

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and these aren't gold diggers. But the problem is is

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they want somebody bigger than them, and.

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Speaker 2: Actually who does these ladies, yes.

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Speaker 5: Right, because they want a guy that has worked harder

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than they have, because they still want.

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Speaker 4: To be inferior in some way. They don't want to

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be the leader.

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Speaker 5: Some guy wrote on there that these women are messing

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up with the balance of some big fancy word the

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way society is supposed to be that they're dudes. Yeah,

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but so like that was firing women up. But the

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natural but he's right on some level, or the natural

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level is the men are supposed to be the breadwinner leaders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean some people will get upset and say that's

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a misogynistic thing.

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Speaker 2: You have to be confident.

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Speaker 3: I think that I think that's the one thing that's

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really missing for most people is confidence and not so

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much cocky. And I think confidence comes more with age.

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Cockiness is when you're younger, right, and because it's almost

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a mask for what you should be confident about, but

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you're not. And I think you know that confidence comes

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with age and not everything is a put down to you,

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a slam to you. No one's here to really fuck

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with you like that, you know what I mean. And

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so when you see a woman who's successful and she

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does well and she busts her as fraid, why but yes,

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I understand, I do.

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Speaker 5: And then so I had kind of messages of some

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guys that are more like total package and they're embarrassed,

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they're afraid to say interested.

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Speaker 4: They're like, well, if they're hot, send them my screen Screensho.

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Speaker 2: Why why do you think that was?

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Speaker 3: Because they don't want their buddies to know their jobs because.

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Speaker 2: It is kind of public.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was public, you know, and they don't want

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to get made fun of.

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Speaker 4: So so many people chickened out. But I did have

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some successful matches.

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Speaker 5: Then there's the whole like the fifty two year old

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man with let's just say fat slobby ex wife that

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he was never getting sex.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say she was a letter.

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Speaker 5: What he wants some young hot girl that doesn't have babies.

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He wants to go hook up with the smoke shows

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and a lot there's a lot of girls. They'll buy

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their way through.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you want to leave a ton, I'll take you

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out to dinner and the girl will get the purse

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and like they're going through their horror.

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Speaker 5: Face and then they realize, I need a woman I

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can connect with.

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Speaker 4: There's more than that.

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Speaker 5: It's a face, So what face do you catch the

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guy in? He's got to burn through the young hotties

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and then he gets more realistic and then it's like

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who is he gonna grab up? And when is he ready?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like do women do that as well?

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Speaker 1: They do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they find like the guy, Yeah, sure, Like they.

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Speaker 5: Want the young, hot, dumb guy that they're like, oh,

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buy you a ticket to Miami.

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Speaker 4: They do the same thing. They're trying to spoil it too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they they joke they want the hard private

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parts in the six pack, you know, and then they realize, wait,

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this is embarrassing to my children, or I didn't want

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a guy that knows how to fix something, or someone's

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more my age, and they go through the same thing, right,

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so it's already a small pool. And then what phase

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are they at.

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Speaker 2: And what phase are they at? Well, yeah, because I think.

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Speaker 4: You got to have the balls and ask them out.

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Speaker 3: Are there more middle aged single people today? That's what

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surprised me was the number on there, because I did

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see comments and uh, the one woman commented, I'm fifty eight,

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retired in Brighton, which is a suburb of here. She's

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so nice and divorced, right and so okay, and.

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Speaker 4: She's out if anyone reached out to her, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know, oh somebody else. I wish my friends would

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do this for me. Then somebody says put out there

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about one of their longtime friends, and it said it's

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hard out there. Everyone I meet just wants a hook up. Bye,

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by no, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Here's the hookup fase.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. Uh, it's interesting that it just

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hit with so many people.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you'll have like the guy, let's say

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he's forty eight, maybe he's super successful. He's done with

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her face, but he's running his company and he's he's

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got a full on Dad Bob. But then the girl

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who's super successful forty one is like, ew, I'm slaving

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away at my body, eating you know nothing, and you

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got this gut right, And then they'll be mad they

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don't take care of their health. And I'm like, you're

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gonna throw away the guy because of the gut. He's

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got everything else. And then I'll find a perfect fucking.

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Speaker 2: Mad I that I want that on a T shirt.

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I throw away the guy for the gut. He's got

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everything else. The fuck it's a gut.

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Speaker 5: I But then so then I'll suggest to the guy

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my friend that's perfect, and he's like, oh, I mean,

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maybe she's got fifty pounds overweight, and he's like, I

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wanted someone hotter. It's like so much vanity is taking

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place too.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, I saw.

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Speaker 4: I felt that the private messages were like, yeah, I

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was hoping for someone more fit or someone hotter. And

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then poor guys when they lose their hair.

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Speaker 5: You got a shit ton of hair, but that's the thing,

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like ew, he's like he's like balding, you know.

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Speaker 4: And then there's a lot of guys, believe it or not.

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I am really I can't wait too.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you if it's real.

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Speaker 4: Fake lips, uh, fake faces. Yeah, and I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand that.

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Speaker 5: I think going through a phase now where I think

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men are starting to want more real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I find something about a confident middle aged woman.

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Speaker 2: I I and I can's you, I know, but I

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and I know.

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Speaker 3: And I've also seen like where I can almost sense

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that they're on the same vibe because they'll give.

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Speaker 2: It you get a second look energy. I don't know

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what it is. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just wonder with the working

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on yourself, I think everyone says they do it, but

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are they I'm working on myself?

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Speaker 2: Are you? And how? And what is that?

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Speaker 4: I think I have the answer.

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Are they approachable?

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Speaker 5: And I think why I talk to so many people,

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especially single I talked to anybody, I'm a goofball.

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Speaker 4: I'd be the one like headbanging that it's like easier

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to talk to Y versus the girl that looks like.

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Speaker 5: The model of the body that just got out of

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the portial, you know, like you know that might be

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more intimidating.

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Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely, And I told them I'm like.

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Speaker 4: You guys need to like be a little goofy. And

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I've actually.

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Speaker 5: Told this to maybe five of them, like why don't

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you make a post.

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Speaker 4: Where you don't have makeup on? Or you do something silly.

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They're also like, oh, like just like you know, show

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some personality.

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Speaker 3: Right, because a lot of times not being perfect. Yes,

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and I think there's there you hit the nail on

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the head there approachable. Well, it makes you more approachable,

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but it also makes you more human, right, you don't

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come off so much as like this two stuff.

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Speaker 4: Guy's going to think I'm not that perfect?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: What is she going to think of me?

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Speaker 5: Right? And my Jenny shirt watching football scratch and my

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belly on a Sunday.

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Speaker 3: You know, I come from a family of men who

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would put on a suit to get the mail. My dad,

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my grandfather, and I have always liked more or less

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not today, you got me? I was, you know, not today,

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But I would rather wear a blazer and jeans and

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a custom made shirt.

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Speaker 6: Or you're a dress up gut I would love to Really,

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I didn't know that about casual dress up though, I

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mean not not like n we'll call it business casual, right,

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But I still know that when I go places like that,

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you're kind of looked at, like no, but you look

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like you stand out.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not always looking to stand out, but I'd

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rather dress nicely and presentable. Everybody today, I mean even

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in schools they're wearing like leggings and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all cover, it's all cover, but of it. No, no,

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it's fine. But my point is like, well, look at you.

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You have the blazer.

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Speaker 3: Run right, it dresses, but it dresses, it dresses it

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up right, you look great. So I just think that

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also raises your confidence. You feel better about yourself, and

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you know what I mean, it's dressed for the I

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would say, dress for the person you want to impress,

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you know what I mean, or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is too, is I always go it's

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an inside job. And if you're not confident about yourself,

476
00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:36,720
or you don't feel good about yourself, or you even

477
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:38,720
worked out your shit, you're no good to anybody.

478
00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:39,759
Speaker 2: You're going to be the.

479
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 3: Same miserable person with the same type of person that

480
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,839
you've been with. You know, you whatever about an ex

481
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,640
wife or an ex husband, and the next thing you know,

482
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,720
you got somebody who almost I mean they may look

483
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,759
very different on the outside, but they are absolutely very

484
00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:59,440
similar on the inside. Or with whatever behaviors or whatever,

485
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,599
the lunatic bullshit that you said you were sick of

486
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,160
dealing with is what you deal with.

487
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,599
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta find the thing.

488
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 3: And I would say even taking some time alone, like

489
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,920
truly alone, and you know, not your whore phase, not

490
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,200
your whatever, just alone to kind of work on yourself.

491
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,839
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I there's something to note here.

492
00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a.

493
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 5: Lot of middle of the road vanilla people living like

494
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,200
I'm not saying they're bad people, but I'm not.

495
00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:27,319
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to.

496
00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 5: Hook up the r gene worker with the physical therapist.

497
00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:35,079
Speaker 2: There's that's that's normal.

498
00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 4: Normal.

499
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 5: I'm talking about I have some exceptional.

500
00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: I think you have to do at you're.

501
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,759
Speaker 4: Looking for some exceptional. Now, I have normal friends.

502
00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:46,559
Speaker 5: I love the whole world and the whole variety of

503
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,519
everyone on earth. But this was about finding my exceptional

504
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,599
like mega hot, mega rich put together like.

505
00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:00,039
Speaker 4: It's harder. There's a lot of middle, is what I

506
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:03,599
I'm saying. There's a lot you're you know, in the middle.

507
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,720
There's a lot to choose from.

508
00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of the time to post something publicly,

509
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,559
for even the guys to answer, the guys with the

510
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,599
like the guy with the cat, I mean, it takes

511
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:14,759
a little bit of guts, you know.

512
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:17,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, let me scroll if I can find

513
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,839
the picture of the cat.

514
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:24,759
Speaker 4: The boy some of the like, oh oh jeez, do

515
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:28,400
you find it? There's so many. I mean, this is

516
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,200
just one friend.

517
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,039
Speaker 3: It's a reminder that so many people, good, interesting, emotionally

518
00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:39,799
aware people are still out there trying. I think that

519
00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:43,720
that's kind of the thing they're trying, and maybe we

520
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,160
should all go back to when we dated, when we

521
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,920
were young, and I like, really kind.

522
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,079
Speaker 5: Of those one friend. Okay, and this is kind of

523
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:55,519
where it starts. I just answered, so let's see how

524
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,759
quick he responds.

525
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,079
Speaker 4: I had a weird feeling that he might wait because

526
00:24:59,079 --> 00:24:59,960
he said he has his kid.

527
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,319
Speaker 5: So like she's waiting for the response, and she's like,

528
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,319
you know, now, she's wondering, does what if he doesn't

529
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,039
think she's cute?

530
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: Okay, really yourself out.

531
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 5: She's nervous, and then she goes, I'm gonna leave the

532
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,119
guy's name out. That one guy's going after everyone. He's

533
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,319
not even attractive, and she's just doing like all.

534
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: These laugh faits laugh.

535
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 5: Wow, he's nice to me, but he's he's crazy and

536
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,759
he has a lot of issues.

537
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,519
Speaker 4: And this one guy, she's like, ew gross.

538
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 5: Like taking screenshots of the guys. The bow tie guy

539
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:43,559
must not have gotten any messages because now he's adding

540
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:48,880
a date to Patron Saint's.

541
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,319
Speaker 2: Date to the steakhouse.

542
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 4: He was like, I'm interested. Now he's like if I'm interested,

543
00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:53,240
Patron Saint and all.

544
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,559
Speaker 5: So like we're noticing, like who's like leveling up their posts, Like,

545
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,839
oh my god, I saw that.

546
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: Wow, herd has hell No, what the fuck?

547
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 5: The one he looks like he should be in a

548
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,559
crime documentary for bodies in his basement, zoom in on

549
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:10,920
the swimsuit model poster on his wall, covering all the

550
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,079
speckle of that like this is just one friend.

551
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: No, I saw that.

552
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:18,559
Speaker 3: I saw that picture and I did zoom in to

553
00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:20,200
see it, Like I was shocked.

554
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,039
Speaker 5: The swimsuit poster had me rolling its screams I still

555
00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:23,839
live with my mom.

556
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 4: I sleep in my childhood bedroom.

557
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: Well this was good. He's ripped.

558
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:31,799
Speaker 5: Wow.

559
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's too hot. He's gonna want one of your

560
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:34,920
hot friends in the thirties.

561
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 5: So now she feels like that one guy was too hot,

562
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,880
like it just comments. So when they're too hot, she's like,

563
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,680
you're not gonna want me.

564
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,599
Speaker 4: I'm almost fifty.

565
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, that's some examples.

566
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: Wow.

567
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:55,279
Speaker 3: There's also something deeply human about wanting a connection, right,

568
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,880
I mean add that to me and not wanting to

569
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,519
feel dramatic or I don't know, well even dramatic for

570
00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:05,160
wanting it, just wanting.

571
00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:06,759
Speaker 2: The human connection. I mean, I think that's important.

572
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 4: I just maybe I love human connections.

573
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,519
Speaker 5: So even when I'm single, at the bar, I sit

574
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,799
at the bar in the restaurant, not at the table

575
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,200
because I want to talk to people.

576
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: Think about this for a second, because you're you are

577
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,720
different in terms of that stuff, right, You're different, and

578
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:24,920
especially about the women you're talking about, I don't think

579
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:30,079
they're like that. So maybe dating isn't harder today.

580
00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

581
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: And I'll say that because there will say it's harder

582
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,400
because there aren't enough options. That's kind of what's come up,

583
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:41,079
right that that seems to be what's come up. And

584
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,599
I wonder maybe it's harder because there's more noise and

585
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,640
there's more performance. There's the botox lips, there's the you know,

586
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,559
you understand, and more of this is fine energy when

587
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:52,279
it's not fine.

588
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: I think men have to raise.

589
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: On themselves.

590
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,279
Speaker 4: Women have to lower their expectation one percent. I think

591
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:01,200
that's the problem.

592
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: I wish we did.

593
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,519
Speaker 4: Girls are too picky and these guys step it up.

594
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, maybe playing video games instead of going

595
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,720
to the gym when you're forty three and single, isn't the.

596
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 4: Maybe batter yourself and I laugh because like those white.

597
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,079
Speaker 3: New Balances, all.

598
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,559
Speaker 4: White socks are in style.

599
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: They are.

600
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the hot girls will wear like the white

601
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,119
New Balances with the tall white socks.

602
00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:26,559
Speaker 3: Okay, the hot girl, the hot girls, Yeah, but it's

603
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,319
usually the it's the sixty plus guy. I used to

604
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,480
call them grilling shoes, and I would say they came

605
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,400
they came with like stabilizers on the side so they

606
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,000
would come out.

607
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:37,759
Speaker 2: But now hot girls are worms to have told you.

608
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:40,839
I see I have Facebook. No, I'm oh my god.

609
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,599
Speaker 4: Now my dad thinks he's cool.

610
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,759
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's really funny. I'll say. Maybe it's moments like.

611
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: This that are a little chaotic, right, this whole thing

612
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,680
that you did a very public They're reminders that connection

613
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:54,240
doesn't always come from swiping.

614
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:55,519
Speaker 2: It's just right.

615
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:58,759
Speaker 3: It doesn't always come from swiping, yeah, and sometimes it

616
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,839
comes from saying something thing out loud and seeing who's

617
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,079
brave enough to respond to it.

618
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,599
Speaker 4: But there was a lot of brave men and somewhere

619
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,640
good middle of the road catches.

620
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

621
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,039
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I hope one of those women

622
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,279
would message them.

623
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,759
Speaker 3: But they're all afraid, afraid to message the guy. Afraid, Right,

624
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,880
we got to have the app where the women make

625
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,359
the move first. Oh, actually they have that. They haven't, No,

626
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,000
we're oh they have that?

627
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, girls get pissed off and guys don't use

628
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:29,200
accurate pictures.

629
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Well they flow out of course of course.

630
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,119
Speaker 5: You know, you take a lot of complaints on that,

631
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:39,839
Like they'll be like, oh, his pictures from twelve years ago?

632
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,359
Speaker 4: What the fuck is scary?

633
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm not messaging him.

634
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,359
Speaker 5: How do you know it's from twelve years Is it

635
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,200
chosen Facebook when your profile pick was last updated?

636
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,559
Speaker 2: So they the hell?

637
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:55,519
Speaker 4: You know like it that. Women assume you're ugly if

638
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:56,680
you don't put pictures.

639
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 5: So even the guy, it's like guns, car jets, goods,

640
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,160
car jets, go bills, go bills.

641
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,759
Speaker 4: It's like, well, what do you fucking look like you

642
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:05,319
must be We assume you're ugly.

643
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:06,799
Speaker 2: They all do.

644
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:09,799
Speaker 4: He's got no pictures. He's a troll. The guy could

645
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,640
be hot, but that's just society. Like, why isn't he

646
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,599
posting himself?

647
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:16,799
Speaker 3: Well, most guys aren't gonna do selfies. Women do way

648
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:17,599
more selfie but.

649
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,319
Speaker 4: They could have like the guys at the bar.

650
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying, like yeah, yeah, yeah.

651
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, because no pictures is the red flag.

652
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and you I could read you pages of Yep,

653
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,480
he's got no pictures.

654
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: He must be bad. Yeah, there could be cutches out there.

655
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,359
We don't know this is true, but yeah, so it's

656
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,400
Stephanie Christen.

657
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: Yes, okay on Facebook, scroll a.

658
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: Couple down and they can see the.

659
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,079
Speaker 4: Post so they can maybe go shopping.

660
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,319
Speaker 2: So this is a middle girl, a middle guy have

661
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:51,039
a fucking.

662
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,559
Speaker 4: Field day because there's no hobbies with jets and six packs.

663
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:55,960
There's no flours on there. You're normal.

664
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,079
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait, wait wait wait, there's.

665
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: No force or oh fours, I think you said four.

666
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: With a jet. I got They're just a lot of metals.

667
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:09,559
Speaker 2: Actually, there's there isn't in the world. That's the problem,

668
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:11,559
Like you know, there isn't in the world.

669
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: There's so many hot checkcent everywhere.

670
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:19,039
Speaker 2: I don't know, because women take care of themselves better,

671
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,279
I can't say where is the problem? Yeah, well get

672
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:22,960
out of guys.

673
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, well it's to the gym, guys and girls.

674
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: Fucking message first, Stephanie. Uh, it's always great to see you. Goddamn.

675
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,519
It's just like I love when you do things like this.

676
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:35,240
It's my favorite. It's my favorite.

677
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens when the song gets released.

678
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: I can't wait for that either.

679
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,759
Speaker 4: That's gonna be it's put myself out.

680
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: There, Yeah it is, but that's not anything new.

681
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,519
Speaker 5: No, but I a song, a real song, not to

682
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:47,759
advertise a house.

683
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: I understand, But you put yourself out there with the

684
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:51,920
videos and stuff like that.

685
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:54,799
Speaker 2: So I think this will be great. I can't wait

686
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:55,799
to see it where it goes.

687
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: I gotta see how long it takes us to make it.

688
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,319
Speaker 3: And in the meantime, I'll say wherever you are in

689
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:05,079
your own story, single partner, divorce, starting over, happily, avoiding

690
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,880
dating altogether. I really hope this conversation made you feel

691
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,519
a little less alone in that and maybe just maybe

692
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:14,680
a little less weird for wanting something real.

693
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,079
Speaker 2: Right a little.

694
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: I have a field like, go find your person on there, ladies.

695
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: Go find your person for Stephanie Kristen. I'm Bill Moran.

696
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,799
We'll see you tomorrow.

697
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,119
Speaker 2: It must the bean that doesn't know the warnings. It

698
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:29,480
wasn't warning to get it.

699
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,359
Speaker 4: It wasn't one dodging it.

