Speaker 1: Get ready. Yikes October third, twenty twenty five, allegedly according
Speaker 1: to that thing we call a calendar, this the o'celli effect.
Speaker 1: And if you're hearing us just after eight pm Eastern
Speaker 1: time on that date, I just gave you we're live
Speaker 1: on a Friday. Otherwise it is a podcast and you
Speaker 1: can't call in without a time machine. But like I said,
Speaker 1: if it's live on that Friday, just a little bit
Speaker 1: after eight pm Eastern, okay, yeah, you can join us
Speaker 1: three one nine five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 1: And who is us? Myself, my co host b Pete
Speaker 1: and whoever to hell bothers to call in three one
Speaker 1: nine five two seven five zero one six. Look, man,
Speaker 1: scramble to try and get on air on time, and
Speaker 1: I still couldn't do it. Still at best time today
Speaker 1: was like two minutes later. Anyway, we're gonna do this
Speaker 1: all the way till around ten pm, when we'll start
Speaker 1: with the Age of Transitions Aaron Franz and then Uncle
Speaker 1: the broadcast. And that's the way Fridays go on this
Speaker 1: little live stream. So also, my apologies to anybody who
Speaker 1: is still not getting the chat room on different browsers.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to fix it. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: And it's really weird because something that's worked for over
Speaker 1: a decade now no longer works. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I will try and repair it again. I see your complaints,
Speaker 1: but not everybody's browsers broken. I don't know anyway. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. It was what it was, It's
Speaker 1: gonna be what it's gonna be. So let's just start
Speaker 1: with this. Did he or did he? Did he not
Speaker 1: do it? I don't know, but I heard he got
Speaker 1: four and a half years or something. Maybe we'll check
Speaker 1: in on that or whatever else is on your mind.
Speaker 1: Could there be more Trump news?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably, And I'm sick of covering all of it. So,
Speaker 1: as I said last night, I'm just like I can't
Speaker 1: take it no more. It is a amazing to watch
Speaker 1: the lack of communication, the lack of understanding, the lack
Speaker 1: of the use of the language. And now I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm one of those English teachers when I was
Speaker 1: a little kid, going you're not speaking properly. Eponics might
Speaker 1: destroy the country. Well, it wasn't ebonics. It was the
Speaker 1: everybody bonics blowing it up because it was all about
Speaker 1: the phonics and I guess that sucked too, because that
Speaker 1: did not read people who understand how to use the language, logic,
Speaker 1: or anything else. I mean three brain cells to scrape
Speaker 1: together and a smartphone, And I guess you get to vote.
Speaker 1: I don't know on everything except how to engineer things
Speaker 1: correctly or how to you know, do something properly, or
Speaker 1: how to make something that works or doesn't poison you.
Speaker 1: But hey, intelligence doesn't count anymore, does it. I just
Speaker 1: can you tell him in a rough mood? Oh, and
Speaker 1: I said we before, who's we white man? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: not a white man, but I am o'chelly, And who's
Speaker 1: we with me? He might be a white man with him.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to identify for him. Be Pete, be Pete.
Speaker 1: How you doing this week?
Speaker 3: I'm good tonight. I identify as a black lesbian. Really
Speaker 3: this Yeah, for the rest of the show, them will
Speaker 3: be a black lesbian.
Speaker 1: This is fascinating. We can't say it too many times though,
Speaker 1: because well, actually, the FCC chair or the FCC standards
Speaker 1: people probably wouldn't care about that anymore. Besides, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I'm not on open air broadcast, so screw it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But okay, I've never had a host that identified as such,
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you. I just want you to know that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I mean, that could change in five minutes, though, you know,
Speaker 3: I might decide I want to be an Irish midget
Speaker 3: or something that would be electrican wouldn't it now?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Now, I don't mind that at all, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that I may be indeed part Irish midget, although I
Speaker 1: don't know the midget. Wait, midget's politically incorrect. What would
Speaker 1: that be? An small person with a box of Lucky Charms? Wait? No,
Speaker 1: red haired individual who is what is that stuff that
Speaker 1: makes you melanin challenged individual who is also high challenged
Speaker 1: and happens to be redheaded with a box of cereal
Speaker 1: type food stuffs from Ireland? Maybe yeah, I'm part Irish,
Speaker 1: but okay, sure, why not? Look, I could join with you.
Speaker 1: We could celebrate Saint Patrick's Day, even though that mythology
Speaker 1: is really strange and I don't want to celebrate it
Speaker 1: because the snakes that Saint Patrick's actually got rid of
Speaker 1: were Pagans and I identify as such. So I don't
Speaker 1: want to, you know, start beating myself up or committing
Speaker 1: a hate crime upon myself, which by the way, sounds
Speaker 1: like rough masturbation if you punch yourself in the face
Speaker 1: at the same time. I mean, how many crimes could
Speaker 1: you commit upon yourself?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Wait? In your case, that might be black on black
Speaker 1: crime tonight. Okay, I'm sorry. Did I digress or confuse anybody?
Speaker 1: Or is it just me? Anyway? I forgot your answer.
Speaker 1: How are you tonight? BPTE.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's it's been a rough week. My
Speaker 3: coffee maker blew up at the first part of the week,
Speaker 3: which just totally ruined that whole day. Then I got
Speaker 3: another replacement. I'm looking to buy one now and I
Speaker 3: really don't feel like spending one hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 3: on a freaking coffee maker.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll see what Amazon's got when I get off of here.
Speaker 3: You know, Amazon, they I gotta give them credit. I
Speaker 3: have tried not to use Amazon, and I've had to
Speaker 3: use them to buy a couple pieces for the repairs
Speaker 3: on the lawnmower, and not only because they could get
Speaker 3: me the parts here quick. But you know, you got
Speaker 3: to hand it to somebody that can get you virtually
Speaker 3: anything in the damn world in three days with free
Speaker 3: shipping if you're a Prime member.
Speaker 1: Okay, isn't it? Isn't it amazing that everybody who like
Speaker 1: goes to Amazon now has the great Walmart experience or
Speaker 1: excuse me, excuse along with the experience. See, I remember
Speaker 1: when when Walmart The High Cost of Low Prices came
Speaker 1: out documentary where they basically exposed the fact that they
Speaker 1: were using you know, Chinese slave labor in order to
Speaker 1: get a lot of their products and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and everybody went, hey, Walmart, what they had all these
Speaker 1: ethical problems? And then as different financial spiral spiraled, everybody went, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to use Walmart for more reasons. But
Speaker 1: and even I did that and have done it and
Speaker 1: continue to do it. I don't want to use Walmart
Speaker 1: because it kills local businesses. I don't want to use
Speaker 1: Walmart because it used slave labor. I don't want to
Speaker 1: have an iPhone because you know, little children put together
Speaker 1: the iPhones and factories over there for no money, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. And yet what do people do. I don't
Speaker 1: want to get anything that's Chinese. Well, then I guess
Speaker 1: you're not listening to me because you don't have a computer.
Speaker 1: You know, this is just where we're at now. You
Speaker 1: don't get to make moral decisions any longer, and even
Speaker 1: if you did, you don't even know what the hell
Speaker 1: they are at this point.
Speaker 3: I mean, the thing I don't like about Walmart is
Speaker 3: when you go online there to order something, almost everything
Speaker 3: is plus three days. And I've got a package of
Speaker 3: fifty pre cut weed eater strings coming from somewhere in
Speaker 3: China that has never made it out of a shipping
Speaker 3: facility in New York to the post office, and I've
Speaker 3: been waiting thirty seven days for it. They finally refunded
Speaker 3: it to me.
Speaker 1: Now you did this.
Speaker 3: The problem is they use so many they use third
Speaker 3: party sellers that you know that they have no control
Speaker 3: over whatsoever. Amazon has third party sellers, but Amazon works
Speaker 3: them into their distribution system. Walmart doesn't. So I've been
Speaker 3: waiting almost forty days on a package that should have
Speaker 3: been here two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, three weeks ago? Hang on, hang on. I see
Speaker 1: at first you said, okay, you were trying to get
Speaker 1: these weed eater string sure whatever they are from Walmart?
Speaker 1: Is that correct? I gotta I gotta follow up questions.
Speaker 1: But just give me a yes or no on that
Speaker 1: from Walmart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Walmart when you go yeah, Galmart Online?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, well hang on, hang on, hang on.
Speaker 1: So then you're able to get them quicker through Amazon, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, the argument I was just making you
Speaker 1: can apply that now to Amazon. But at one time
Speaker 1: Walmart was the target of this. And everybody does have this,
Speaker 1: you know, moral epiphany at some point that they don't
Speaker 1: want to use one of these large companies for one
Speaker 1: reason or another. They're communist, or they're over corporatized, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But either way I'm not I just want to make
Speaker 1: sure nobody thinks I'm convoluting. It's just that there's so
Speaker 1: many of them now. It's like I don't want to
Speaker 1: use it. But one way or another, you wind up.
Speaker 1: You're telling me you have trouble with that. And yet
Speaker 1: now I can get groceries. I'm not saying I can
Speaker 1: get the grocery order correctly, but I can get a
Speaker 1: grocery order from my local Walmart and foo to other
Speaker 1: items that show up the next day in Georgia. But
Speaker 1: you're having trouble with one particular thing in North Carolina
Speaker 1: because I got to be honest with you, I can't
Speaker 1: afford to go anywhere else anymore. You know, we don't
Speaker 1: have the carr.
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example.
Speaker 3: I made an order and there was three items on it.
Speaker 3: One was an order of silicone gasket cement that you
Speaker 3: had to use to put the head covers back on
Speaker 3: the lawnmower. That showed up the next day at my door, delivered.
Speaker 3: In that same order, I ordered some security tips for
Speaker 3: a screwdriver. And the security tips are those bits that
Speaker 3: fit the screws that you're not supposed to take out, okay,
Speaker 3: and they call them security bits. So I got a
Speaker 3: pack of those eight bucks. It was there in seven days.
Speaker 3: So the first item showed up the next day. Seven
Speaker 3: days later, I got this one. The third item was
Speaker 3: these strings that are made to go on a craftsman.
Speaker 3: We'd eat her well. Sears is out of business. So
Speaker 3: you go to Seers Parts Direct and you start looking
Speaker 3: for these part numbers and the part number changes about
Speaker 3: nineteen times, and finally, when you get a part number
Speaker 3: that's going to work, you put it into Walmart. Yeah
Speaker 3: we can get it, but it's going to be at
Speaker 3: least three weeks. Well three weeks was two weeks ago,
Speaker 3: so that order has been canceled. I can go to
Speaker 3: Amazon and get the exact same thing for a dollar
Speaker 3: chief or delivered within three days, okay, because they have
Speaker 3: it in their distribution system right where Walmart is relying
Speaker 3: on these third party sellers who could be in Beijing
Speaker 3: for all you.
Speaker 1: Know, well, right, exactly, Okay, Now here's the thing. Amazon
Speaker 1: has them as well, and they do try to source
Speaker 1: locally first because that way they save on shipping. I
Speaker 1: mean pretty simple. If you can send it from three
Speaker 1: blocks away, it's going to cost you less than to
Speaker 1: send it from three you know, continents away, right, So
Speaker 1: real simple. But here's the problem with it. Right this
Speaker 1: year there's been the tariff scares where we're not sure
Speaker 1: how much it's actually going to cost by the time
Speaker 1: it show up. So what they're doing is when they
Speaker 1: have a projected target and it gets disrupted by that,
Speaker 1: they just let your order float and hope they can
Speaker 1: fill it. And if they don't, or let's just say
Speaker 1: the tariff becomes you know, one hundred two hundred percent
Speaker 1: on your five dollars item, well, there's no way they
Speaker 1: can absorb that cost because they're going to be paying
Speaker 1: you to take a product. Right, So this is what's
Speaker 1: happened this year. I think that's the difference. But then again,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Now, look, guys, we could talk
Speaker 1: about this, that's for sure, the distribution change. What's been
Speaker 1: affected and what's not and why and how? And in fact,
Speaker 1: I started to cover it last night when I was
Speaker 1: talking about the tariffs are and the Trump administration, who
Speaker 1: literally somehow is floating the idea that we're going to
Speaker 1: be paying for the entire government with tariffs. And I
Speaker 1: want people to imagine what tax level that is, because
Speaker 1: these are taxes on items. That's what they are. That's
Speaker 1: what tariffs are as to who actually ultimately pays them. Hey,
Speaker 1: look a different economists argue from ways. But I got
Speaker 1: bad news for you. At the end of the day.
Speaker 1: If we're going to fund the entire government on it, it's
Speaker 1: going to raise the cost of literally everything, even if
Speaker 1: it's not consequential, and even if it has an exception
Speaker 1: on it, it's still going to jack up the cost,
Speaker 1: I promise you, because they're going to use it to
Speaker 1: absorb costs from other products. I mean, let's just use
Speaker 1: our heads, but pay no attention to any of that.
Speaker 1: Maybe you got something less complicated on your mind. Join us.
Speaker 1: Three one nine five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 1: I don't want to even talk about any of this,
Speaker 1: although this is a lot more interesting to me than
Speaker 1: most of what they're telling us as news at the moment.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Diddy Combs, I think got sentenced today.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is there any new movement on the
Speaker 1: Epstein file argument. I don't know. Is there any other
Speaker 1: political footballs in the juggler's hand with the chainsaw and
Speaker 1: the alligator head that might or might not be stuffed?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Oh, they did find an alligator in
Speaker 1: Making Georgia, by the way, just want to tell you
Speaker 1: really weird. Though it already had its mouth wrapped up
Speaker 1: before anybody found it. So you think somebody just had
Speaker 1: an unwanted pet they dropped off somewhere. It looks like
Speaker 1: it to me, anyway. Who knows. Maybe somebody was getting
Speaker 1: ready to have dinner and it just was the one
Speaker 1: that got away, sort of like that girl in high school.
Speaker 1: Tell us about any of these things if you want
Speaker 1: three one nine five two seven five zero one six,
Speaker 1: join us, or you can listen to me and V
Speaker 1: Pete ramble and rattle and damn, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to look at the transcript of this mess. But anyway,
Speaker 1: b Pete, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: get that in. And isn't it amazing though, that we're
Speaker 1: still dealing with these you know, big, huge corporations. You
Speaker 1: would probably not be so thrilled to put more money
Speaker 1: in Jeff Bezos's pockets. I am not thrilled to put
Speaker 1: more money in the Walton family's pockets because you know,
Speaker 1: among the top twenty billionaires in the world, what is
Speaker 1: there four entries for the Walton family? Uh, not to
Speaker 1: mention the other hedge funds and everything else that are
Speaker 1: absolutely draining us to death, killing local businesses and all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. You know. Again, the high cost of
Speaker 1: low prices continues to be a theme with Walmart, one
Speaker 1: way or another. But who wants to pay these mega corporations.
Speaker 1: I'd rather pay another guy something similar to the cost
Speaker 1: or even a little more if I had to, uh,
Speaker 1: if I can ever afford it? And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: can you afford stuff? I can't, but I'm trying, like hell,
Speaker 1: And how is this affecting all of us. I think
Speaker 1: this is more of an important topic than most political
Speaker 1: Uh you know, jugglers pieces that are flying in different
Speaker 1: directions at all times.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know, I hate to use these
Speaker 3: guys too. But but based on the prices, I give
Speaker 3: an example. There's a store called the Big Blue Store
Speaker 3: bp b PTE.
Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on before you get into a story,
Speaker 1: because I can ask you for this story. You can
Speaker 1: put a pin in it later. We got two callers already,
Speaker 1: so and they just popped in.
Speaker 3: One of them, Jimmy James.
Speaker 1: Uh not yet, No, okay, yeah, not yet. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, if Jimmy is awake, he'll call.
Speaker 3: Uh and and well I'll wake him up because we
Speaker 3: need to talk.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well we'll get to that. Yeah, Jimmy, we
Speaker 1: might have something to talk to you about. So we
Speaker 1: have now both requested.
Speaker 2: Jimmy James, he's going back on the list.
Speaker 1: Jimmy James, please put oh Pete, Pete's got a list.
Speaker 1: Jimmy James, you are requested on the white courtesy phone.
Speaker 1: And no, that is not a racial thing. That is
Speaker 1: a joke from Airplane the movie or Airplane the sequel.
Speaker 1: But anyway, people, let's get to these callers because I
Speaker 1: see one from a friend of ours in Florida, and
Speaker 1: I want to get to him. And I see another already,
Speaker 1: and we will get to you guys as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1: So let's just go there, because that's what this show
Speaker 1: is about. On Friday nights on o'helly dot com Radio.
Speaker 1: And one more time to remind anybody else who has
Speaker 1: not already dialed three one nine five two seven five
Speaker 1: zero one six and you can join us in this anyways.
Speaker 1: So our friend in Florida, I see you, I hear you.
Speaker 1: How are you? What is on your mind?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm good. This is going to be a test.
Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Okay, I can hear you pretty good, I hope be Pete.
Speaker 1: Can you hear them?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, go ahead?
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 5: No, that I'm having to use as a headset because
Speaker 5: the microphone on my phones thanking up there on phone.
Speaker 1: Calls, it actually sounds.
Speaker 4: A little bit of backspeed. I'm not sure as you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we're not having a problem hearing you. You're
Speaker 1: a little lower quality than usual, but you're very clear
Speaker 1: and consistent for us.
Speaker 5: Okay, you guys are you know, I don't know, you're
Speaker 5: talking about Amazon and such as where I live.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of been reduced to her if
Speaker 4: you're doing like grocery shop and whatnot.
Speaker 5: I mean, all the small independent shops and pretty much
Speaker 5: put out of the business. Besides, Like for me, I
Speaker 5: can go to in a local grocery store in about
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes down.
Speaker 4: The road and I live out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 5: But they're charging you an easy, you know, thirty percent
Speaker 5: more for what you be paying for the same thing
Speaker 5: at Walmart. You know it, I'd be a box of
Speaker 5: you know, all ground and potatoes and whatnot. I mean,
Speaker 5: some of these places are kind of being priced out,
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not really.
Speaker 5: Affordable unless you're receiving welfare benefits.
Speaker 1: And okay, okay, so let's let's be fair here, okay,
Speaker 1: Because even if you are receiving welfare benefits, which by
Speaker 1: the way, in the state of Georgia, good luck if
Speaker 1: you are, because even if you were on the list,
Speaker 1: and even if you were on authorized, no matter how
Speaker 1: you got them, guess what they might be stolen from you,
Speaker 1: And all across this state where I live, people can't
Speaker 1: figure out how to even get anybody on the phone
Speaker 1: to get it, first of all. Second of all, even
Speaker 1: the amount that they granted people as families, yeah, that
Speaker 1: ain't gonna come nowhere near cutting the costs. For like
Speaker 1: people sometimes think, oh, they got food stamps, they got
Speaker 1: food for the month. There might have been a time
Speaker 1: in this country where that was true, But I mean
Speaker 1: in order to have like groceries covered for a month
Speaker 1: for a family of three, you better have a family
Speaker 1: of eight on the list and legitimate you know, as recipients,
Speaker 1: collecting all in one house, because otherwise you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: make it with these costs. And the funny thing is, yeah,
Speaker 1: well a lot of us are gonna have to turn
Speaker 1: to the walmarts and whatever, regardless of transportation because you know, indeed,
Speaker 1: even if you go, you know, whether it's the ghetto
Speaker 1: or it's the middle of nowhere where they don't really
Speaker 1: care about serving the area. And I do mean the
Speaker 1: greater corporate entities, they'll charge you more for the delivery.
Speaker 1: And if you try to have a local store in there,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems to me like they'll just
Speaker 1: price gouge you, because hey, where else are you gonna go?
Speaker 1: Poor people? Where else are you gonna go? Mountain man,
Speaker 1: you want to live in the middle of nowhere, guess
Speaker 1: what you're gonna pay higher price. And it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if the sign says Bigley, Wiggley, Walmart or Jimmy Johns.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean the sub shop. I just pulled
Speaker 1: two names out of the air. And maybe that's how
Speaker 1: they did it. I know, don't tell me, I already know.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, it doesn't matter even if it
Speaker 1: was B Pete's Grocery Emporium. Okay, that opened up, and
Speaker 1: it's got nothing to do with our co host here.
Speaker 1: But it's another guy who decided to call himself that
Speaker 1: just because I don't know, he wanted to be the
Speaker 1: male bo peep and he identifies as a sheep. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You're gonna get ripped off and you're gonna
Speaker 1: get price gouged, and it doesn't matter if you want
Speaker 1: to buy chocolate or peanut butter. Missus Oh looked at
Speaker 1: me and said, you know, just within the past twenty
Speaker 1: four hours, trying to look up groceries online to figure
Speaker 1: out if we could afford to spend thirty dollars okay,
Speaker 1: which means you know we're gonna buy what a meal
Speaker 1: for the house? Yeah, she goes, is this really a
Speaker 1: real price for peanut butter? Or is this a mistake?
Speaker 1: You're looking at prices going is this a mistake? Should
Speaker 1: this be the price for three pounds of this instead
Speaker 1: of one pound? Is this three cans instead of one?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: This is now the reality, and it's starting to set
Speaker 1: it in, even though I don't know how, because where
Speaker 1: was everybody sleeping for the past year, sleeping for the
Speaker 1: past two years, Wait a minute, sleeping for the past
Speaker 1: five years, Because I don't know. I've been getting squeezed
Speaker 1: slowly but surely. But yeah, go ahead, please help me
Speaker 1: out because look, in case anybody doesn't know, this is
Speaker 1: Chris in Florida, and he's you know, a good guy
Speaker 1: and a supporter of the show. And thank you for that, Chris.
Speaker 1: And also you've been personally to me. I'm wearing a
Speaker 1: pair of headphones. I don't normally call people out on
Speaker 1: credit without asking them, you know, first, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you right now that he made it a
Speaker 1: lot more sane for me to do the show because
Speaker 1: I was wearing broken headphones for a month and a half.
Speaker 1: Because they were broken, I couldn't afford to fix them
Speaker 1: or to get new ones, and I didn't even have
Speaker 1: the money to get the stuff to duct take them
Speaker 1: properly back together. And you know he helped me get headphones. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything else. I don't want to call
Speaker 1: you out or force you to say anything else about
Speaker 1: anything else, or the fact that you've been nice to
Speaker 1: me and we've had emails and stuff lately, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate you, man, because you brought me off of the
Speaker 1: edge of just saying the hell with it and quitting
Speaker 1: within the past two months a couple of times, all
Speaker 1: by yourself. I just want you to know that. And
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to butter you up for any reason.
Speaker 1: I'm just giving credit where credit's due. But reality is,
Speaker 1: we're all having to deal with this right now, and
Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody is ignoring it and just
Speaker 1: saying no, it's okay, or I'll it's mine. And you
Speaker 1: know what, where are the pitchforks and the torches? Is
Speaker 1: all I'm asking but the government's shut down now, so
Speaker 1: nobody's home if you go knocking. And I'm not encouraging that.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to encourage violence or anything else, because
Speaker 1: God help us, they're monitoring opposition to the government directly,
Speaker 1: but nobody's paying attention to that either. So Chris, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I derailed a little bit, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: just call me a liar if I am, I'll deal
Speaker 1: with it. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: For one, I'm very happy that I was able to
Speaker 4: help me out, and I wanted to preface what I
Speaker 4: was saying. I wasn't necessarily taught, you know, saying disparity
Speaker 4: things about people who needed to help.
Speaker 5: But you know, here in the state of Florida, at
Speaker 5: least there's I don't know if there's too many loopholes
Speaker 5: or what's going on, but you know, I've personally known
Speaker 5: too many people that have been able to take advantage
Speaker 5: of the assistance programs that mart in need of it,
Speaker 5: and to where like let's say, like.
Speaker 4: The ebut to where they were getting a nine.
Speaker 5: Hundred dollars balance each month for a family of two
Speaker 5: while they were still income coming in the house. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's just I mean, shit, I don't even run that
Speaker 5: much in the grocery build up, you know, with the
Speaker 5: family of three, and you know all the animals.
Speaker 2: That I've got.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that's hard for me.
Speaker 1: To get by it. No, I I appreciate you, and
Speaker 1: I want you to know that's not a new phenomena,
Speaker 1: because I mean, if we have time tonight, maybe I'll
Speaker 1: tell you the story about the first time I went
Speaker 1: to go buy food stamps from what I'll call a
Speaker 1: food stamp dealer. And this is back when we were
Speaker 1: able to get them in paper form. And don't think
Speaker 1: for a second that the plastic has done anything but
Speaker 1: made it easier to steal, manipulate, and move them around better.
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, it's easier than having to deal with the
Speaker 1: paper ones. But I could tell you a story about,
Speaker 1: you know, when I lived in New York, but it
Speaker 1: wouldn't take long. But doesn't matter, yeat. Every system that
Speaker 1: can be corrupted and taken advantage of is And the
Speaker 1: sad thing is those Department of Agriculture credits that are
Speaker 1: issued which are not money, but do transform into digital
Speaker 1: credits that could be money on the business end of it.
Speaker 1: Those things, Yeah, of course they're going to be abused,
Speaker 1: and they're abused by people in the system, out of
Speaker 1: the system, around the system, the politicians and people on
Speaker 1: the take on all levels. And I don't know the
Speaker 1: answer onto how to cure any of it, doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what they do. But sadly, even people that are desperately
Speaker 1: in need and trying to utilize it properly and following
Speaker 1: the rules and everything else are getting double screwed.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 1: So I'm just pointing out and I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: what you're saying doesn't exist. But all I'm saying is
Speaker 1: the grab bag of corruption, no matter how people twist
Speaker 1: it and take advantage of it, I don't think even
Speaker 1: you know, the grifters, are able to really profiteer off
Speaker 1: of it properly at this point. So you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to say about it, except again, if
Speaker 1: you look at it as you know, part of the hole,
Speaker 1: it's actually a very small problem all the way around,
Speaker 1: when you look at the rest of the actual corruption,
Speaker 1: and you know, pre or post Doze, it really doesn't
Speaker 1: matter because you know, if you put all of Doze's
Speaker 1: winnings together, the ones they claimed, and you don't challenge
Speaker 1: any of them, what is the expression dropping the bucket
Speaker 1: glass of water in the ocean at best? So you know,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Is all I got to
Speaker 1: say about it, But please go back to it. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to focus on that part because
Speaker 1: to me, the pain that even if you try to cheat,
Speaker 1: you can't succeed, not on this level. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're a cheating billionaire, I think it works. But then again,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that reality is. That's like being
Speaker 1: from another planet. But it seems like no one, no
Speaker 1: one that I know of, or no one that is
Speaker 1: remotely connected to the reality in which I live, is
Speaker 1: actually benefiting in a solid way. I mean, there may
Speaker 1: be some winners at the casino, but that's like saying,
Speaker 1: you know, one guy won and pulled the super jackpot
Speaker 1: the other night in Atlantic City, so therefore there's a
Speaker 1: lot of winners. Now, that's what the gambling mindset tells you.
Speaker 1: But we all know that that is such a super
Speaker 1: false premise that you know it makes no sense. So
Speaker 1: it's weird. It's very very weird and very very hard
Speaker 1: to unpack, is all I'm trying to say. But please
Speaker 1: make your point about this though, because yeah, help me out,
Speaker 1: help me understand something that I don't. I really want
Speaker 1: to learn tonight what the hell is actually happening? Because
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if black was just white, I
Speaker 1: mean I could readjust my mental TV settings, I could
Speaker 1: readjust my barely working eyeballs and maybe not bump into
Speaker 1: the invisible walls I keep just seem to keep banging
Speaker 1: into because blind as I am, I've always avoided it.
Speaker 1: But intellectually, I'm literally staring at things I don't understand
Speaker 1: at this point, like how is this even happening? How
Speaker 1: is this real? And how are people accepting? This is
Speaker 1: where I'm getting at this point, Chris, But enough out
Speaker 1: of me helped me in some way, and I mean
Speaker 1: you've already been helpful and I gave you credit, But
Speaker 1: help me some more to understand this. And I know
Speaker 1: want to bounce to the next caller and come back
Speaker 1: around to you and see who else calls in.
Speaker 5: Please, uh said, I wish I was able to. It's
Speaker 5: here some actual words of wisdom. I mean me myself.
Speaker 5: I'll say it out right, I don't really care. I'm
Speaker 5: a ten ninety nine employee, I haven't paid taxes a year.
Speaker 5: I'm just waiting for a letter in the mouth. Okay,
Speaker 5: I've been able to afford to pay the taxes.
Speaker 1: Well, even if you did, you know, well, Chris, here
Speaker 1: here's a fun thing. Even if you did, Let's just
Speaker 1: say you paid one hundred percent, you gave every single
Speaker 1: thing that you had to the tax system. What would
Speaker 1: you fund anyway? I mean, I'm not trying to be little.
Speaker 5: You, but I'm just saying destruction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything's everything that I don't want to everything that
Speaker 4: I don't want to fund.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sure, I'm also subjugating to myself being in a position
Speaker 5: of you know, putting my family at risk, myself at risk.
Speaker 1: No, I know, I understand that part of it, But.
Speaker 4: You fuck out of you fuck a three letter agency
Speaker 4: out of there.
Speaker 1: You know, you fuck a three letter agency out of anything.
Speaker 1: You listen, you fucking three letter agency out of anything
Speaker 1: that claims to be entitled to it. Yeah, there are problems,
Speaker 1: and there are consequences, and they will come if they
Speaker 1: notice you. But here's the question. Uh, even if you
Speaker 1: were given all of your income right to that agency,
Speaker 1: all of it, I mean, just you know, just signing
Speaker 1: over your check every single time, what would you fund?
Speaker 1: Could you even pay for, you know, two soldiers. I mean,
Speaker 1: could you actually I mean, I'm not trying again, I'm
Speaker 1: not belittling what you have because you're you're a smart guy,
Speaker 1: and you clearly have enough to not be you know,
Speaker 1: put out on the street or losing everything completely. So
Speaker 1: you're not failing entirely, but realistically in the grand scheme
Speaker 1: of things, right, even if you gave all of your
Speaker 1: funding in, you could contribute on some level. But is
Speaker 1: there something that you'd actually pay for with all of it?
Speaker 1: You know, in one shot, when you take a look
Speaker 1: at the cost of these things, and you take a
Speaker 1: look at the grand scheme of things from an organization
Speaker 1: essentially that is supposed to be printing money based on
Speaker 1: the value that it believes it has and should be
Speaker 1: able to print enough money to pay its own debts,
Speaker 1: you know, in a weird way. And yet you know,
Speaker 1: you're in a system where you're told that your taxes
Speaker 1: pay for these things, and that's like just it's irreconcilable
Speaker 1: in reality when you get right down to.
Speaker 4: It, Well, the only thing I'm funding is destruction.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, sure funding.
Speaker 5: You know, when I participate in the tax paying system,
Speaker 5: I'm at this point, this day and age, I'm funding mine.
Speaker 5: You know, my self destruction is my family's self destruction,
Speaker 5: and everyone else is sure not necessarily self destruction, but destruction.
Speaker 1: Right, And even if it's even if it's an intesting Yeah,
Speaker 1: even if it's a completely inconsequential, right, fractional part of
Speaker 1: what's happening. I mean, you're funding war, You're funding murder
Speaker 1: because you know, our government murders people. You're funding you know, prisons,
Speaker 1: You're funding morals or morality on this is irrelevant. You're
Speaker 1: you're contributing one way or another. Supposedly you are, right.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Even if you avoid three letter
Speaker 1: agency X, Y Z or whatever, people forget that there
Speaker 1: are taxes built into almost every single purchase, even if
Speaker 1: you think it's tax free, right, because I mean, look, well,
Speaker 1: did you buy gas. Guess what's included in that?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I point this out all the time because it was
Speaker 1: in that industry. But there's state and federal taxes are
Speaker 1: built in that point nine is made up from like
Speaker 1: a point three and a point six of a penny
Speaker 1: tax that comes from the Feds. Two of these things
Speaker 1: put together, like one of them is called like a
Speaker 1: spill tax and the other one something else. But these
Speaker 1: two things, that's why there's nine tenths of a penny
Speaker 1: on every sign, because what do you do as a retailer.
Speaker 1: You attach it to your already existing cost for purchasing
Speaker 1: the fuel. It's factored in, it's part of the price
Speaker 1: that you redeliver to the public. You have no say,
Speaker 1: you have no way to opt out of it. And
Speaker 1: even if you're a tax free organization, if you purchase gasoline,
Speaker 1: your purchase alone automatically funds that tax back around, not
Speaker 1: just in the indirect sense where the retailer pays it,
Speaker 1: but literally that's also you know, this is how they
Speaker 1: justified it. This is why you have to account for
Speaker 1: I mean, mob guys tried to get around it for
Speaker 1: a while, and they did in like the seventies and eighties,
Speaker 1: and Michael prank Casey says, you know, that's his greatest
Speaker 1: accomplishment as a mobster is avoiding that tax. But reality is,
Speaker 1: without the mafia, you are paying the Feds. You know,
Speaker 1: when you use gasoline and you're paying a tax. So
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, between those taxes and the ones
Speaker 1: you fill out at the end of the year, right,
Speaker 1: allegedly or not. You know, where is your choice? Where
Speaker 1: is your selection? What menu were you ordering from? Where
Speaker 1: you're choosing to fund something or not? And most people's
Speaker 1: attitudes boiled back down to well, just shut up and
Speaker 1: take it or try and beat it, because that's all
Speaker 1: you got is choices, I mean, or again, look, call
Speaker 1: me a liar, tell me I'm wrong, or help me.
Speaker 4: Yet, go ahead, you start to pay taxes.
Speaker 1: No, if you're if you're here, you're in the game.
Speaker 1: That's all there is to it. And whether you like
Speaker 1: it or not, the gratuity was already on the billboard
Speaker 1: before you even tried to order something. So yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 1: we got yet another caller and uh, there there's a
Speaker 1: brand new one and I and look, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: skip him in the line, but we are anxiously awaiting
Speaker 1: me and BP both to speak to Jimmy James and
Speaker 1: he's there. So you know, Chris, I'm gonna shut up
Speaker 1: and bang on whatever point you want and we'll keep
Speaker 1: you on the line and carry along if you don't.
Speaker 4: Mind, that's fine. Only another thing. I wanted to edit
Speaker 4: what you just said. I want to think I want
Speaker 4: to say it was like years ago.
Speaker 5: Remember me and you both come from a gas station
Speaker 5: management background.
Speaker 4: Remember I managed seven evens years ago. I want to
Speaker 4: say years ago.
Speaker 5: It was something, It wasn't you know that little point
Speaker 5: nine that you see, you know, yeah.
Speaker 4: That little that's not the full amount of taxes that
Speaker 4: JA pay.
Speaker 5: It's last it used to be at say something like
Speaker 5: fourty three cents per gallon.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, yeah, you know, if I seem
Speaker 1: to represent it overall, yeah, Chris, No, let me correct
Speaker 1: myself in case, in case somebody takes it wrong. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that's the reason why that nine tenths of
Speaker 1: a penny exists on the price. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: that's anywhere near all of any tax at all. It's
Speaker 1: actually two separate taxes that come together to make the
Speaker 1: nine tenths of a penny. But they're not solely nine
Speaker 1: tenths of a penny. Those are federal taxes. But the
Speaker 1: reason why it differs a little bit, and you see
Speaker 1: that nine tenths in every state is because that's a
Speaker 1: federal tax. But the states also have, you know, some
Speaker 1: role in it one way or another, no matter what
Speaker 1: they call it, they get a piece and it's a
Speaker 1: few pennies here, a few pennies there, And like I said,
Speaker 1: it was like twenty was it? The thirty two point
Speaker 1: nine cents per gallon in the state of New Jersey
Speaker 1: was what I had to deal with. That was the
Speaker 1: total of the taxes when I took when I took
Speaker 1: my first overall management job over multiple stations in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: thirty two point nine cents in New Jersey in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine, however, or ninety eight, whichevery year I took
Speaker 1: my first job doing that, That's what it was. But
Speaker 1: that was a combination that thirty two point nine cents
Speaker 1: of say, you know, six cents from the state of
Speaker 1: New Jersey for this, eight cents from the federal government
Speaker 1: for this, two cents, etc. And I'm throwing numbers in.
Speaker 1: These are not exact, but I'm to give you an idea.
Speaker 1: A bunch of taxes came together to make thirty two
Speaker 1: point nine cents. And frankly, even though a lot of
Speaker 1: people in New Jersey thought they were being highly charged
Speaker 1: and taxed, they were not. There are other states where
Speaker 1: at that time it was seventy two point nine cents,
Speaker 1: sixty eight point nine cents, And I did work in
Speaker 1: New York and Pennsylvania directly at exactly that time, and yeah,
Speaker 1: things varied. Pennsylvania was a little bit higher than Jersey,
Speaker 1: and New York was astonishingly higher than New Jersey, and
Speaker 1: indeed had a difference when you dealt with the city
Speaker 1: as opposed to the rest of the state, and it
Speaker 1: was more like, you know, say eighty seven point nine
Speaker 1: cents in New York or something like that. Approximately, I
Speaker 1: didn't do as much paperwork in New York as I
Speaker 1: did in Jersey, so it didn't stick as hard in
Speaker 1: my brain. But just you know, people go with, so
Speaker 1: what it's eighty nine cents, But in nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 1: there was a point at which I didn't need the
Speaker 1: two on my price signs because we were never going
Speaker 1: to hit two dollars. And at that point in time
Speaker 1: in New York, you were paying eighty nine or almost
Speaker 1: ninety cents. You know, if you just round up that
Speaker 1: nine tenths of a penny. But that's why you see
Speaker 1: that nine tenths of a penny. That's all I was explaining,
Speaker 1: And I hope I made that clear that like that's
Speaker 1: not even one of the taxes, everything is higher than that. Okay,
Speaker 1: so but I'm just trying to give you an idea
Speaker 1: why the consistency press go ahead.
Speaker 5: Sorry, the potential listeners out there now, I just wanted
Speaker 5: to preface it with all the other listeners out there.
Speaker 4: That may be unfamiliar with the process.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're a little bit more in the no.
Speaker 5: But you people just see the yeah, the price on
Speaker 5: the sign is. Don't understand how this shit's calculated. You know,
Speaker 5: Like here in Florida, I can see a forty you know,
Speaker 5: I can be going to a job site in the morning, right,
Speaker 5: the price will be let's say two eighty nine, and
Speaker 5: by the time I'm leaving, by the time I'm passing
Speaker 5: by that same gas station four thirty five o'clock, it's three,
Speaker 5: you know, three.
Speaker 4: On nine, three nineteen. I mean I'm seeing, you know,
Speaker 4: thirty forty cent swings.
Speaker 1: Right, And as somebody that eight hour period, oh sure, sure,
Speaker 1: And as somebody that has experienced in this just one
Speaker 1: little thing I want you to just make sure to
Speaker 1: tell people I'm not lying about if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: is that in state by state and even in special deals,
Speaker 1: there are highly regulated processes connected to this, Like just
Speaker 1: example again, Jersey is my best before I move along
Speaker 1: to the next caller. In Jersey, you're only allowed to
Speaker 1: change the price once per day, once in a twenty
Speaker 1: four hour time period. No matter what happens to your
Speaker 1: baseline price in that time period, you can only make
Speaker 1: a change once and then you got to wait twenty
Speaker 1: four hours before you make another change, unless you're on
Speaker 1: the parkway or the turnpike, where you're only allowed to
Speaker 1: change that price once per week. So it's a highly
Speaker 1: regulated price structure that the violation is not even worth
Speaker 1: the attempt to beat it. Like if you want to
Speaker 1: go look, I'm not taking a bath or ten cents
Speaker 1: a gallon for a day. Yeah, you better. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, if you've got to give away gas,
Speaker 1: which is also not legal in New Jersey, you can't
Speaker 1: give away gas. It's not legal. You know why, because
Speaker 1: you can't tax something that you gave away, or it's
Speaker 1: at least a lot more difficult. But let me correct myself.
Speaker 1: You can tax something that you give away, even if
Speaker 1: I'm trying to just you know, make it a present.
Speaker 1: Think about that, from one person to another, there's a
Speaker 1: tax necessarily attached to it and a violation of the
Speaker 1: law if you do that in Jersey. But just again
Speaker 1: my point, I just please call me a liar if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. It is highly regulated and it is very
Speaker 1: difficult to do anything outside of the regulations in public,
Speaker 1: uh with retail gasoline, and this is a small issue,
Speaker 1: but again has a profound effect on everything economically. So
Speaker 1: you know, tell me which part of my statement I
Speaker 1: just made. You know in that last grouping of words,
Speaker 1: Just please tell anybody if you heard a lie there
Speaker 1: based on your own experience, Oh.
Speaker 4: You're dred percent legit from what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't, Yeah, Okay, I appreciate it. Hang on, Chris, though,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure everybody gets a turn and
Speaker 1: gets to be heard, because I would like to talk
Speaker 1: less and I want to get beped in here to
Speaker 1: be able to talk to everybody. And both of us
Speaker 1: are waiting to get to Jimmy James. So no offense
Speaker 1: to our next caller, and hang around, Chris if you can,
Speaker 1: or come back on, we'll put you back on. But
Speaker 1: it looks like Danny in California before we go to
Speaker 1: Jimmy James is to Jimmy James.
Speaker 2: Oh you want me to go to jim Go to
Speaker 2: Jimmy James. I know what, Yeah, please do He's he's.
Speaker 6: Passed on for me, so I will return the favor.
Speaker 1: Okay. Look, and just for the record, the callers do
Speaker 1: not run the batting order here. But I'm more than
Speaker 1: happy to honor a request, uh, you know, from callers.
Speaker 1: If you want to pass up and come back to
Speaker 1: me next or whatever, let me know when you call in.
Speaker 1: No pressure here. I want to hear what's on your mind.
Speaker 1: But there may be a little pressure in this conversation
Speaker 1: because well, Jimmy James gave b Pete and I a
Speaker 1: little homework. So let's see if we can make this
Speaker 1: conversation flow with a discussion that we already have a
Speaker 1: little background and a little bit of homework done on.
Speaker 1: I hope, and maybe Jimmy, you'll have some other stuff. Dad.
Speaker 1: I'll let him choose if he wants to go to
Speaker 1: that or the homework assignment first. So let's call you
Speaker 1: teacher for the day or at least the next fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Jimmy James, you should be live, sir. Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: All right? Oh? Yeah, great?
Speaker 1: Great. Okay, So on your mind, and we do have
Speaker 1: answers about a homework assignment, but let's get to before
Speaker 1: we get into that. I'd be more than happy to
Speaker 1: hear what's at the front of your mind this week,
Speaker 1: and then we'll catch up and make up our work
Speaker 1: from previous assignments. How's that sound.
Speaker 7: That sounds fun? Well, I'm working on my assignment. Did
Speaker 7: you get my email concerning the paper I owed you?
Speaker 7: And I sent you the outline?
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm a little confused on that. I would
Speaker 1: like it very much if you wrote to me to
Speaker 1: clarify instead of doing it here, so that I can
Speaker 1: understand it and we can do it well for people
Speaker 1: in public. And I want to make sure that I'm
Speaker 1: answering you correctly. So do me a favor and just
Speaker 1: write a little clarification message on email and I will
Speaker 1: get to it as soon as I have time to
Speaker 1: read it and know what it says. Okay, so great,
Speaker 1: So anything else, Yeah, go ahead, whatever else is on
Speaker 1: your mind. I don't care if it's current you want
Speaker 1: to talk to me about. I don't know, Diddy or
Speaker 1: government shutdowns or the latest media debacle. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: all on you whatever you like.
Speaker 7: I'm governments so called governments shut down. That's fine and
Speaker 7: day and do me all right, let's get to the movie.
Speaker 4: Come, b Pete, let's here.
Speaker 7: Was I right or was I right? Was that movie
Speaker 7: not made by the devil himself?
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on just a second, just to
Speaker 1: catch everybody up in case you missed it. And I'm
Speaker 1: just doing this for the public. And then I really
Speaker 1: want Ppete to dominate this conversation because I had a smack.
Speaker 1: I had a swipe at this already on two new
Speaker 1: news shows and gave you credit for giving me the
Speaker 1: homework assignment. So I want B Pete because I have
Speaker 1: no idea what he has to say or if he
Speaker 1: even completed watching the whole thing. He sent me a
Speaker 1: message that indicated that he did watch the whole thing,
Speaker 1: but I'm not certain. So I'd like be Pete to
Speaker 1: dominate this part of the conversation, please, And I'll just
Speaker 1: add in my fragment of a thought on it that
Speaker 1: I might have left that's still fresh on the entire subject.
Speaker 1: So be Pete. Just to clarify, Jimmy James mentioned, oh
Speaker 1: geez you okay, be Petere, you all right, all right,
Speaker 1: the background noise sounded like something with crash here in
Speaker 1: my headphones. Anyways, So the Umbrella Man, okay, what do
Speaker 1: you call? Jimmy James mentioned on the show, Hey have
Speaker 1: you seen this Umbrella Man movie? We had to clarify
Speaker 1: which Umbrella Man movie? What the Umbrella Man is? This
Speaker 1: is connected to the jfk assassination, etc. And then I
Speaker 1: had difficulty getting it from the free movie streamer that
Speaker 1: IMDb and other website said and Jimmy Jane said would
Speaker 1: allow me to watch it for free. So Jimmy was
Speaker 1: kind enough to go get me a YouTube link to
Speaker 1: the movie, and that way I could see it without
Speaker 1: having to pay for it. And thank God for that,
Speaker 1: because you know how many times can you say refund
Speaker 1: and double refund and triple refund, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: is very much like reducing the price of you know,
Speaker 1: something like I don't know pharmaceuticals and saying I got
Speaker 1: a three hundred percent reduction. Yeah, that means that they
Speaker 1: paid you of the three hundred percent two hundred percent
Speaker 1: of that is supposed to come back to you in
Speaker 1: that equation, because that's how algebra works. But you feel
Speaker 1: like asking for that sort of. I don't know, price
Speaker 1: adjustment when you watch certain things. And gee, I'm spoiling
Speaker 1: my own review, aren't I? So anyway, everybody's caught up
Speaker 1: umbrella Man. The twenty eighteen Let me just look at
Speaker 1: my note real fast, make sure I'm accurate. Is a
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen creation, according to copyright. I guess, uh, And
Speaker 1: you know it's it's a modern one. It's a dramatization,
Speaker 1: it's not a documentary, so on and so forth. But
Speaker 1: it is loosely and I do stress, loosely connected to
Speaker 1: guess what, the JFK Assassination and Conspiracy.
Speaker 3: The worst movie ever the work not take that back,
Speaker 3: second worst movie ever?
Speaker 1: Really? Yes, okay, yes, so in my mind you're telling
Speaker 1: me that this thing is worse than the first the
Speaker 1: first Brady Bunch movie. Uh is is worse? Is worse
Speaker 1: than many of.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'll tell you why. Yeah, it's worse than
Speaker 3: Jonathan Livingston Seagull, which was the worst movie ever made
Speaker 3: in history. I thought at one time it was Michael
Speaker 3: Caine in the production the hand, you know, the chopped
Speaker 3: off hand that terrorizes the neighborhood. Well, that one was bad.
Speaker 3: But then I went I asked to girl out on
Speaker 3: him date. She lived down a road from me. We
Speaker 3: kind of grew up for same area for a while.
Speaker 3: We decided to go to a movie. She wanted to
Speaker 3: go see, Jonathan Livison's Seagull. We went and watched that movie.
Speaker 3: After that, I never talked to that girl again. It's
Speaker 3: been forty some odd years. I have never spoken to
Speaker 3: her since. That was the worst movie I have ever
Speaker 3: seen in my life. This one, this one was close.
Speaker 3: This one was very close. Jimmy, you owe me an
Speaker 3: hour and forty three minutes watch.
Speaker 1: Something, Okay, Okay, now that I don't want reparations, Okay,
Speaker 1: you you are so disturbed by the lack of value
Speaker 1: for this thing, which which you you got for free.
Speaker 1: Right you didn't pay for it or anything?
Speaker 3: Oh hell no, I didn't pay for it.
Speaker 1: Okay. So what you're telling me is this thing is
Speaker 1: worth reparations. Okay, fine, fine, fine, but that's not what
Speaker 1: I'm What I'm going to ask you is just you're
Speaker 1: trying to tell me that this thing, in your estimation,
Speaker 1: is way worse than say, on my list. It would
Speaker 1: be like the Brady Bunch movie. There was a conversation
Speaker 1: called the the conversation or the apartment. At one point
Speaker 1: where the characters are literally having conversations where they always
Speaker 1: mention each other by name, it would be like every
Speaker 1: conversation beginning with B Pete, be Pete, be Pete, like
Speaker 1: always identifying you first. But now that has a little
Speaker 1: value in the audio where we just have audio to
Speaker 1: work with, so you know exactly who I'm talking to.
Speaker 1: But in every single conversation, that would be like you know,
Speaker 1: saying to like, say, your mom was involved in this conversation,
Speaker 1: be Pete, and don't worry. I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: a jackass about it. Okay, no no jokes coming about
Speaker 1: the mama. But I'm just saying that if your mom
Speaker 1: was on screen with us, I kept saying every time
Speaker 1: I wanted to say something to you, and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be, you know, a realistic circumstance and conversation if
Speaker 1: I keep starting every sentence I addressed to her with
Speaker 1: but be Pete's mom, be Pete's mother, Be Pete's mother,
Speaker 1: be Pete's mother.
Speaker 3: At the bench, she would agree with she would agree
Speaker 3: with me. This is the next to worst movie in
Speaker 3: the world. The acting was bad, the cinematography was bad.
Speaker 3: The little conference that you know, twenty guys sitting in
Speaker 3: a little banquet room at the holiday in Express over
Speaker 3: on the side, and the confrontation. I just, oh, oh,
Speaker 3: they should burn this script. They really need to burn
Speaker 3: this film.
Speaker 1: Okay, So again, just one more stress point here, just
Speaker 1: in case anybody missed it. I mean, everybody remembers that
Speaker 1: Christopher Reeve played Superman and all, and of course he
Speaker 1: suffered a tragic injury and yeah, everything. If you believe
Speaker 1: in freedom of speech and humor, you know, cool, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be fine with this, but probably still a little
Speaker 1: bit creeped out. But if you are somebody who doesn't
Speaker 1: believe in that, you will have an automatic reaction that
Speaker 1: I'm a terrible human being for attacking certain human beings
Speaker 1: and make a whole lot of mess out of something
Speaker 1: that I'm going to tell you should be a good
Speaker 1: and clear point of metaphoric understanding between us. So, Christopher
Speaker 1: Reeve was Superman in the movies for a bit. So
Speaker 1: what I'm about to tell you is that you're saying
Speaker 1: that this movie is so bad that we would get
Speaker 1: something of value, more entertaining, we'd be better off filming
Speaker 1: Christopher Reeve as Superman now as opposed to the nineteen seventies,
Speaker 1: We're going to get a better quality piece of work
Speaker 1: out of Christopher Reeve in twenty twenty five, as is
Speaker 1: as opposed to as No, so that's what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 1: then no, we wouldn't. Well, no, you can film. What
Speaker 1: you're saying is there would be more value. And what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get at is there's more value in
Speaker 1: filming a corpse, a hole in the ground, is gravestone
Speaker 1: or anything that could be Christopher Reeve appearing in a
Speaker 1: movie today as is in twenty twenty five, even given
Speaker 1: that he was Superman in movies. And you can take
Speaker 1: those or leave them, or think of them any way
Speaker 1: you want. What I'm saying is that might be better.
Speaker 1: That might be best.
Speaker 3: Shit through another mediation session with my ex wife and
Speaker 3: her lawyer. Then watch that movie again.
Speaker 1: Okay, you stopped on my punchline, so I'll just give
Speaker 1: us a bonus here if you don't mind. He said
Speaker 1: you want to go with ex wives. I had a
Speaker 1: doozy of a first one. And what you're saying is
Speaker 1: that I would get more enjoyment out of having sex
Speaker 1: with her today as opposed to any point in the
Speaker 1: past and now punchline, she did and she was never
Speaker 1: good at it anyway, and i'd have to dig her
Speaker 1: up and as is can go just as far as
Speaker 1: your mind will take you. And you're still telling me
Speaker 1: that is a more redemptive quality on the shelf of
Speaker 1: things that you could do with an hour, and you're
Speaker 1: telling me i'd better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The only redemptive quality to this movie is that it's
Speaker 3: not as bad as Jonathan liveson Siegel. That is the
Speaker 3: only redeeming quality. Other than that, I'd have to give
Speaker 3: it two thumbs down.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, Okay, so not as bad as watching a
Speaker 1: train wreck, because a train wreck could be educational in
Speaker 1: other words?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that about where we're at now?
Speaker 3: But what I want to know is your watched this movie?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Did he watch this movie and then make us sit
Speaker 3: through it? Because he sat through it, I want to
Speaker 3: know his motives?
Speaker 1: Okay, So b people wants to know the motive as
Speaker 1: to why it is you had us watch this now. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to clarify be Pete's point of view
Speaker 1: before I even throw in my well, let's see with inflation,
Speaker 1: probably is a.
Speaker 3: Lot simple point of view, as simple as suck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, my, yeah, But it's a profound suck we're
Speaker 1: talking about here, as opposed to just a you know,
Speaker 1: a semi lazy kind of suck. There are differences there.
Speaker 1: Profound suck is different than lazy suck.
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta it sucked like it sucked like
Speaker 3: a hurricane in a Hoover factory.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine enough, And you know that's like I don't
Speaker 1: know a prostitute without a bottom jaw. But these are
Speaker 1: my attempts at humor here. Okay, just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: the all teeth hooks, there's nothing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just immy up.
Speaker 8: Okay, both of you, both of you, stop stepping on
Speaker 8: both of you. Stop stop okay, stop stop okay, both
Speaker 8: of you stop stepping on each other and me. I'm
Speaker 8: just trying to clarify. No no, no, no, no stop
Speaker 8: stop please, I just.
Speaker 1: Okay. Here's here's the pause, so I can finish this
Speaker 1: and turn it over to you guys, both of you.
Speaker 1: I'll pause if I have to. The thing is this,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to clarify. Be Pete's position. I'm not
Speaker 1: even making mine known yet, and so we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with question number one that be Pete has for Jimmy James,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna shut up and let you guys
Speaker 1: handle it. And if you talk over each other, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be no good for anybody to listen to just saying.
Speaker 1: So let's try and do it and make our humor
Speaker 1: or snipes or whatever clean and crisp by keeping them,
Speaker 1: you know, well sorted. Okay, that's all I'm asking for. Please, alrighty,
Speaker 1: Jimmy gonna put you back on and lay it honest,
Speaker 1: because the floor is yours and B Pete respect Jimmy
Speaker 1: James space here. Let him get out whatever he's trying
Speaker 1: to get out, because there was a point to be
Speaker 1: made and I'd like to see what it was, you know,
Speaker 1: and this is just your part of the conversation with Jimmy. Okay,
Speaker 1: So give him silence so he can get it done. Okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough, Okay, I'm taking B. Pete's silence. I'm taking BP. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm taking B. Pete's silence as a communication of agreement.
Speaker 1: So these are my assumptions. Let's see how they work out.
Speaker 1: So Jimmy floor is yours.
Speaker 2: What you got.
Speaker 3: O.
Speaker 7: My goodness, all right, we'll.
Speaker 2: Chuck.
Speaker 7: I appreciate it that the Heart of Gold.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't even get to Heart of Gold to see.
Speaker 1: That's why my punchline was stepped on. So you're filling
Speaker 1: in blanks. But that's cool, Jimmy, you take it anyway.
Speaker 1: But we I'm not even trying to engage yet. Just
Speaker 1: please nail down your point and try and give a
Speaker 1: response to be Pete asking what is the motive for
Speaker 1: why it is you wanted us to watch it? And
Speaker 1: you can be funny or serious or do a little
Speaker 1: both or man, please exercise your freedom of speech on this.
Speaker 1: Tell tell me Bete what the motive was.
Speaker 7: Well, I told you guys, the motive this film is
Speaker 7: a problem. And while none of us like it, and
Speaker 7: while did you not watch the end, be Pete, the
Speaker 7: moral of the story. Okay, please, that's here the widow. Okay,
Speaker 7: she explained to the gentleman how his life is empty
Speaker 7: and that's why he researches jfk assassination. Uh did you
Speaker 7: not this is a very effective piece of propaganda.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, that was what I said.
Speaker 1: BP. Stop stop let him, let him finish it. Let
Speaker 1: him finish his whole thought. Please, please, because please don't
Speaker 1: step on him, honest. No, but you're making enough noise
Speaker 1: to disrupt his point. I want his point fully made, please, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure that your laying stays open.
Speaker 4: What's all the racket?
Speaker 7: What BP you do not comprehend? Yeah, I'll get.
Speaker 1: It, okay, so you are No, I'm trying to just
Speaker 1: make allow the points to be made clearly. Sorry, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about you know who got what or anything else.
Speaker 1: I just wanted you to be able to make your
Speaker 1: point unmolested. Uh here, So uh is there anything that
Speaker 1: you need to repeat or add on for what the
Speaker 1: motive was for BPTE and I to watch If you
Speaker 1: don't mind, I.
Speaker 7: Told you that with the problem is this movie is
Speaker 7: dangerous as hell. It's going to warp the minds of
Speaker 7: the simple minded. And you didn't get the message of
Speaker 7: this film. Really, you didn't see You didn't get it
Speaker 7: that people who quote unquote believe in conspiracy theories are
Speaker 7: warped individuals. You didn't get that where the dude was
Speaker 7: thinking about killing a guy, he's insane his life since turmoil?
Speaker 7: Why this is the only reason people would get involved.
Speaker 7: It's such crazy ideas.
Speaker 1: Okay, So just just to illustrate why it is people
Speaker 1: both love and hate my analysis of things, I am
Speaker 1: going to fall back into my you know, my standard
Speaker 1: operating procedure here and ask the following questions. Jimmy, the
Speaker 1: first thing, can a piece of propaganda be effective if
Speaker 1: nobody sees it? I mean literally, like the tree falling
Speaker 1: in the woods. What do you think about that regarding propaganda?
Speaker 1: If you don't mind, I'd like to hear what your
Speaker 1: opinion is of that concept.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've already considered that, Chuck. The problem is is
Speaker 7: that film is going to live forever and we are not.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I see that, and I contemplate that
Speaker 1: even about my own material, that people are not actually
Speaker 1: hearing what I'm doing. And potentially later on if any
Speaker 1: of it survives, circulates, or somebody saves it, you know,
Speaker 1: somewhere well after I'm dead, you know, will there even
Speaker 1: be an effect then? But you know, was I propaganda?
Speaker 1: Is the question I ask myself all the time, And
Speaker 1: that's personal, that's turning it to myself. And imagine, you know,
Speaker 1: people that actually have power, they can do a lot
Speaker 1: of things and plant seeds that are meant to grow later,
Speaker 1: and boy, it can become complex. So you're asking whether
Speaker 1: we see these things. I imagine that was your motive
Speaker 1: is to make sure Like it's kind of like nudging
Speaker 1: somebody standing next to you in a crowd while you're
Speaker 1: watching a building burn. You nudge them and you go,
Speaker 1: you see this. Is that what you're saying the motive was?
Speaker 1: Or am I getting something wrong?
Speaker 7: That's exactly what I was doing. Like I said, whenever
Speaker 7: it was, I recommended seeing this movie. This movie is
Speaker 7: dangerous and I want eyes on it and I want
Speaker 7: people to realize that this thing is. What do you
Speaker 7: think the motive was? This wasn't no movie script. The
Speaker 7: whole point of this film was to discredit so called
Speaker 7: conspiracy theorists. Would you wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's just go with a couple of things here.
Speaker 1: Just for clarification, I'm not even answering a question. I
Speaker 1: just want to be very clear about what I'm answering
Speaker 1: and what BP's answering. Okay, the thing is this. You
Speaker 1: wanted us to evaluate this and see if we could
Speaker 1: concur with you that it is a piece of propaganda
Speaker 1: and what it's design is. And I understand that, And
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing I try and do every
Speaker 1: single week and sometimes every fifteen minutes when I create
Speaker 1: this content right here called the o'celli effect, right, And
Speaker 1: even working with other people, I try and do the
Speaker 1: same thing all the time. So totally on board, one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And I feel better even just that somebody's
Speaker 1: attempting to look at something and understand it in this way.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, Jimmy, I want to know
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Maybe you could give me a
Speaker 1: couple of answers in one shot. One is are you
Speaker 1: unfamiliar this having like? Is this new to you, this idea,
Speaker 1: this concept, this specifically tracked piece of propaganda. Is this
Speaker 1: new to you as a concept as far as you're
Speaker 1: concerned when it comes to the JFK assassination. And also,
Speaker 1: do you think you understand what the purpose is of
Speaker 1: the propaganda? And I think I already know the answer here,
Speaker 1: but I just want clarification for everybody else. Do you
Speaker 1: think you absolutely know what the total intention of this
Speaker 1: thing is? Again, their motive for creating, releasing and trying
Speaker 1: to get people to watch this thing before we even
Speaker 1: get into judgment of its quality. Do you believe that
Speaker 1: you understand the full motivations and what it is regarding
Speaker 1: this thing. So first question, and both of them, I
Speaker 1: think can the answered together is one, is this new,
Speaker 1: relatively new sort of new to you or you know,
Speaker 1: do you think that this has been like an ancient
Speaker 1: formula that continues to work so broke, don't fix it?
Speaker 1: Or do you think this is a new concept or
Speaker 1: represents something unique or at least remotely fresh in this
Speaker 1: particular groove. If you don't mind, I would love to
Speaker 1: have those two questions answered about it.
Speaker 9: So go ahead, Jimmy, Well, what you're flying is, of
Speaker 9: course basically true.
Speaker 7: There's never been having aside from the film JFK, any
Speaker 7: attempt by any filmmaker really to even an attempt to
Speaker 7: put out our side.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't apply just just for clarity, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: one sack, one sack, just for clarity here. I didn't
Speaker 1: imply anything there. I just simply tried to offer, do
Speaker 1: you recognize this? And I asked these questions about your perspective.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to imply if I did it was
Speaker 1: completely accidental. I was trying to make sure I didn't
Speaker 1: imply that you knew anything didn't know anything. I wanted
Speaker 1: you to speak for yourself, So please, if that message
Speaker 1: was conveyed to you, it's completely a mistake on my part.
Speaker 1: I am literally trying to objectively ask you if you
Speaker 1: think this is new or old or it is an
Speaker 1: ancient formula, you know, is it something that's being repeated
Speaker 1: one and two? Just to be specific again, God help me.
Speaker 1: You know this is where it gets tough, you know,
Speaker 1: do you think that? Well anyway? You know what I'm
Speaker 1: going for here. I think, I hope, and I've tried
Speaker 1: to be as clear the first time as I could,
Speaker 1: and I failed, So go ahead and run with it.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't trying to imply anything about your opinion.
Speaker 1: I'm seeking it and trying to take it objectively from you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: I was good, man, I was good, and I was
Speaker 7: just starting with the films that I have historical was
Speaker 7: seen that are even one off from the first opinion. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I know what this film's doing, and it's new, and
Speaker 7: that it's full bore propaganda. This movie was made to
Speaker 7: change people's minds. And to form to make people who
Speaker 7: watch it to confirm what they hope would be already
Speaker 7: confirmation bias. The people who believe that the murder of
Speaker 7: JFK are just simply all mixed up in the head.
Speaker 1: Okay, I just wanted to get your view, But you
Speaker 1: said that I implied stuff. So I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that if I did seem to imply it, it
Speaker 1: was not intentional on my part, not part of my
Speaker 1: motive here. That's all I was trying to clarify, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: That's all I was trying to clarify. I really literally
Speaker 1: wanted your view on that. Be beat. I know you
Speaker 1: had a little technically Okay, go ahead, go ahead. I'm
Speaker 1: trying not to have a step on each other. I'm
Speaker 1: my mistake, goohead.
Speaker 7: But I was just gonna say I just I feel
Speaker 7: that this is something kind of new, Chuck. I absolutely
Speaker 7: believe that this is aimed at millennials and jen whatever
Speaker 7: we're on now excess of Z I don't know whatever.
Speaker 7: They're little minds of mush. You know, they think the
Speaker 7: government is the answer and not the problem, and things
Speaker 7: like this is just going to believe me, the polls, Now,
Speaker 7: I know what they say, but at ten years truck
Speaker 7: belief and indeed dependence and the government, it's only going
Speaker 7: to get ginue to increase and more and more. I
Speaker 7: think the younger generations are going to become more and
Speaker 7: more conformous. That's just my opinion based on observation, and
Speaker 7: I think this movie exactly has gamed at them. With
Speaker 7: this in mind that you know, people who have these
Speaker 7: see things that you you don't know about, well, they're
Speaker 7: clearly just got problems in their private life. They're mentally unbalanced.
Speaker 2: This film was, I agree, awful.
Speaker 7: But I it's not so much the actors and the
Speaker 7: acting and the low budget. I think this film is dangerous.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna leave it right there. Okay, We're gonna
Speaker 1: leave it right there because you more than answered the
Speaker 1: question and I want to open it back up to you.
Speaker 1: But before we go there, I want to keep the
Speaker 1: conversation flowing. So just hang on, b Pete. That's his
Speaker 1: answer to what I asked. Okay, where I was just
Speaker 1: trying to say, you know, did you have an idea
Speaker 1: about this? And have you seen it before? And he's
Speaker 1: now laying out, you know, part of his roadmap as
Speaker 1: to what he thinks the effect is, et cetera. So
Speaker 1: just to continue that conversation now, I'd like to get
Speaker 1: your viewpoint, and I'm going to try and keep everybody
Speaker 1: separated so nobody steps on anybody and we get this through,
Speaker 1: because I think this could be very important if you know,
Speaker 1: and no matter how you or him answer this, I
Speaker 1: think this is extremely illustrative of the various issues and
Speaker 1: way more than any of us are going to have
Speaker 1: time or the ability or energy to cover here. And again,
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to be objective and not offering my
Speaker 1: opinions as much. I may have tainted them a little
Speaker 1: so far, but I'm trying to just manage this be Pete,
Speaker 1: go ahead, your thoughts on the Umbrella Man eighteen, which
Speaker 1: I always love. How something with an innocuous name, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, there's something called Mafia Most Wanted, which
Speaker 1: was recently released on Netflix. It's a brand new film
Speaker 1: and it's that's the most cheesy, nondescript Who gives a crap?
Speaker 1: I mean literally a cereal box in the grocery store
Speaker 1: that just is mostly without any sort of markings except
Speaker 1: in big bold letters. It says the word ceial literally
Speaker 1: that is what I'm looking at here. But you know,
Speaker 1: when it comes to a title, the umbrella Man well
Speaker 1: reminds me of a guy named Cutler, reminds me of
Speaker 1: you know, the Erro Marris film. Reminds me of this
Speaker 1: figure that has echoed continuously, whether it's Jim Garrison's representation
Speaker 1: in JFK or it is various other times when conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory is the centerpiece of the Thanksgiving dinner in November,
Speaker 1: and indeed we have to deal with the Umbrella Man
Speaker 1: once again. But in the twenty eighteen rendering of this film, now,
Speaker 1: now the funny part is, guys, the JFK assassination not
Speaker 1: the primary focus of the film, you could argue, But
Speaker 1: then again you might argue that it just shares the
Speaker 1: centerpiece area on the table again with the Thanksgiving dinners
Speaker 1: being set up for November of this year and for
Speaker 1: the Novembers of many a year past. So with that
Speaker 1: bepat the floor, is yours briefly to try and do this,
Speaker 1: because I want to keep this flowing out. I want
Speaker 1: to just linger on it, hit it hard, hit it quick,
Speaker 1: and paint it as best you can by throwing a
Speaker 1: bucket at it. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: I don't think the movie is going to cause any
Speaker 3: problems down the road. I really don't. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: what I want to know is of all the people
Speaker 3: that have even briefly looked at the JFK Assassination, how
Speaker 3: many of them went and dug up their copies of
Speaker 3: the zu Bruder film to look at m two four
Speaker 3: and two five. I'm just curious to know how many
Speaker 3: went to check to see if there was any factual
Speaker 3: basis for the storyline based on those two frames, because
Speaker 3: I can't find a damn thing where Michael Grasso, the
Speaker 3: director and writer, even discusses how he came and put
Speaker 3: a couple losing a kid to an accident, tied it
Speaker 3: into the JFK assassination and focusing on the umbrella. Man,
Speaker 3: I don't see the connection, But I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's that big of a deal. If anybody
Speaker 3: is willing to sit through that movie, as bad as
Speaker 3: it is at the end of it, I don't think
Speaker 3: they're going to come out, you know, to be thinking
Speaker 3: this whole conspiracy situation. And I mean because here lately,
Speaker 3: if you go by conspiracies, a lot of the ones
Speaker 3: that have come out in the past what four years,
Speaker 3: it turned out to be true. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: see this one doing much harm, ok I really don't.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to point out and again VP,
Speaker 1: do not take this as a personal slight or attack
Speaker 1: on you, because I know that some people might think
Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing. Uh So I'm just putting it
Speaker 1: out there that that is again not my intent, motive,
Speaker 1: or desire. I just want to point out that you're
Speaker 1: literally taking the bait here in my mind, because it's
Speaker 1: very much like arguing over whether or not you know,
Speaker 1: Ruth Payne was called Janet Williams in the JFK of
Speaker 1: Oliver Stone's Eye, right, it's literally, well, Ruth Payne, the
Speaker 1: Ruth Payne character in the movie JFK. Okay, just so
Speaker 1: you know, is named Janet Williams in the story. And
Speaker 1: there are various name changes where you go, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go track down that name. Or if somebody
Speaker 1: said you know that all right, Daily Plaza was now
Speaker 1: Daily Plaza and connected to you know, the daily paper
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Texas, or it was the Dallas Dally Plaza
Speaker 1: like as in Dallas, where name changes and the different
Speaker 1: things there are left as the argument to consume your
Speaker 1: energy and your focus, and whether it's two four one
Speaker 1: O four four oh four or indeed three point thirteen
Speaker 1: in the frames surrounding it in the Zapruder film, you
Speaker 1: have already been sucked into a universe where you are
Speaker 1: dealing with the FBI's definitions because they're the ones that
Speaker 1: put numbers on the frames. Okay, what are you.
Speaker 3: Talking about, Willis you know where do? I don't understand
Speaker 3: where you're even coming from with this.
Speaker 1: Okay, now you're being mad because you're not because you're
Speaker 1: taking it personally mad.
Speaker 3: You know, and pliers and you think you're still in
Speaker 3: the produce section. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I see, So it makes no sense. Just just to
Speaker 1: be clear. Okay, I'll tell you what. I'm a retard
Speaker 1: if you want to go there. But here's the thing
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing, and I'm trying to point out objectively
Speaker 1: as best I can, is that you're wondering about the
Speaker 1: window dressing. And this is the intent of some of
Speaker 1: this stuff when it's designed this way. It's not somebody just.
Speaker 3: Wondering about is how many nut jobs out there went
Speaker 3: and started tracking down from two four and two five
Speaker 3: to see if there's any connection to what was written
Speaker 3: about in the film. That's the only point I'm making. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's it. It doesn't go any further than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it, because what's happening is the manipulation
Speaker 1: of the conversation has begun long before you even started
Speaker 1: on that. Because now you turn to a focus there
Speaker 1: and you say, I wonder how many nitwits took their
Speaker 1: time to waste it on this, And it's literally a
Speaker 1: double headfake that's happening here, because whether it's artistic license
Speaker 1: or a guy just not knowing his material or anything else,
Speaker 1: the design still works and it still hasn't what design see?
Speaker 1: Why are you why? What is with the tension? Why
Speaker 1: do I I sense hostility over this just.
Speaker 3: Because you're sitting here saying that I'm not getting some
Speaker 3: unseen underwoven method of making me go and focus on
Speaker 3: this and not look at this and not think about No,
Speaker 3: I don't think anything about it. It was a lousy
Speaker 3: fucking movie.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I just made a comment, and Stay Lou went
Speaker 3: and looked at two O four and two O five
Speaker 3: on their frames, just out of curiosity, because I know,
Speaker 3: somebody went out there and did it. Okay, somebody in
Speaker 3: that group sure that rounds up in Dallas every year
Speaker 3: went and checked those two frames and I'm just curious
Speaker 3: to know how many of them did. You've turned this
Speaker 3: into some psychologic I haven't even considered because the movie
Speaker 3: totally sucked.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm making you're looking at.
Speaker 3: It from a movie, not as a right, not as
Speaker 3: an attack on conspiracy theorist. Was it an entertaining movie, No,
Speaker 3: it was written terrible. Did it have a flow to it. No,
Speaker 3: because the two extreme things that they're trying to merge
Speaker 3: together did not work. I'm looking at it from a
Speaker 3: movie artistic aspect, not the underlying This is bad for
Speaker 3: conspiracy because if people see this, they're going to go
Speaker 3: and they're going to go thinking about this and that
Speaker 3: it's just diverting people off. Screw all that, all.
Speaker 1: Right, let me know when you feel as though you've
Speaker 1: defended yourself or whatever before I can ask a question,
Speaker 1: if there's anything else you'd like to ask.
Speaker 3: Ask any question you want. Well, instead of telling me
Speaker 3: what I'm faking out and head fakes and double head
Speaker 3: fakes and triple head fakes, ask your question.
Speaker 1: Okay, I said nothing about you and head fakes according
Speaker 1: to my memory. But okay, fine, and let you say
Speaker 1: I did. Let's start again and see if I can
Speaker 1: get this out and not have you take it personally
Speaker 1: because it's not about you actually, And that's the funny
Speaker 1: part again to me, is that it's just ironic that
Speaker 1: I can't sit here and explain the literal in real
Speaker 1: time reaction that you're having to something that becomes something else.
Speaker 1: It's not me turning it in. It's my observation I'm
Speaker 1: trying to give you about what the intent of this
Speaker 1: thing is. It's not even about you. It's just that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are going to look
Speaker 1: at this and take your point of view. And I'm
Speaker 1: not even invalidating your point of view. I'm saying this
Speaker 1: is part of the purpose of property. See, I can't
Speaker 1: even dissect something and use somebody's reaction anymore because they
Speaker 1: take it as a personal slight. They take it as
Speaker 1: me making a lot of statements about something where I'm
Speaker 1: trying to point out something that's happening and explain a
Speaker 1: reaction as best I can make it out because I'm
Speaker 1: not inside of your head. I'm just telling you what
Speaker 1: I see and what's a consistent type of reaction and
Speaker 1: a consistent reaction two similar and same things, Which is
Speaker 1: that the intent of even off roading into this, even
Speaker 1: mentioning it and offering it as hey, you know how
Speaker 1: many idiots went and looked at two four and two
Speaker 1: of five instead of saying that, you know, that's an
Speaker 1: irrelevant thing to look at, or saying that you know
Speaker 1: it's got no value or it's just wrong, or this
Speaker 1: is just a waste of time. Instead of saying that,
Speaker 1: you're saying, I wonder how many idiots did that?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And what I'm saying to you is this is part
Speaker 1: of the design. This is intentional. This is not sloppiness.
Speaker 1: This has a purpose, and it works very well to
Speaker 1: make people own positions, defend them, and argue with each other,
Speaker 1: instead of ever getting to the root of any of
Speaker 1: what this thing is attempting to present or what it
Speaker 1: could be as valuable as a crap piece of artwork,
Speaker 1: I mean, even if a child draws a stick figure,
Speaker 1: it has enough value to communicate that that's meant to
Speaker 1: represent a person. Beyond that it could be nothing. But
Speaker 1: then again, you start making other marks on this thing.
Speaker 1: You know, you give a genitalia and everything else. Now
Speaker 1: you've added to the conversation. But when people are willing
Speaker 1: to get angry, dismissive, and kind of everything else over
Speaker 1: a film or a piece of work or a piece
Speaker 1: of content that has nothing to do with them, I
Speaker 1: find that fascinating, indeed, and I do find it interesting
Speaker 1: that there is a consistent psychological use for content, artwork, information,
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to grapple with and trying to begin
Speaker 1: to analyze it. And this is the kind of stop
Speaker 1: sign that I typically receive. So I'm relating to it,
Speaker 1: understanding it, and seeing you're getting upset thinking I'm making
Speaker 1: assertions about you and what you said. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: point out this is what we have, and this indeed
Speaker 1: is indicative of what the design and the designers had
Speaker 1: in mind when they launched it. That's all I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say, which is not an attack on you or
Speaker 1: anything to belittle your opinion, point of view, lack of
Speaker 1: education on the subject, or even your abilities as a
Speaker 1: film critic. I'm not attacking any of it. I'm just
Speaker 1: pointing out that taking a look and a listen, even
Speaker 1: to this conversation right now shows people who are observant
Speaker 1: something about the actual usefulness of things like this. That's
Speaker 1: all I was trying to get to, and maybe I
Speaker 1: did it sloppy and crappy, but I'm sorry. I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm as bad a communicator as many other people
Speaker 1: who are very successful and celebrated, even if they are
Speaker 1: more in line with people's political ideals, religious concepts, you know,
Speaker 1: emotional state of being, or even simply because you know,
Speaker 1: this person talking kind of sounds like me and has
Speaker 1: the same color skin as me, and it is supposed
Speaker 1: to be from the same country as me. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of forgiveness for people like that across
Speaker 1: the board with everybody. But I got to tell you,
Speaker 1: it's very unforgiving when you try and tell somebody something
Speaker 1: that doesn't comport with something in their own mind. Already
Speaker 1: in this day and age, it's a recipe for failure
Speaker 1: and pain if you care about the thing you're crafting.
Speaker 1: So that's all I was actually ultimately trying to point
Speaker 1: out here, which now you know, I guess I'm just
Speaker 1: a kook who overthinks and you know, is pretty much stupid,
Speaker 1: and that's fine. If that's where we're at, that's fine too.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that to you, b Pete alone.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that to anybody who's listening to I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to surrender actually under the fact that I've now been
Speaker 1: rude and wrong and everything else, and I had no
Speaker 1: point in my mind or heart where I was attempting
Speaker 1: to judge Be Pete. So take a look at the
Speaker 1: part that I'm playing and being a useful idiot people.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And I ask that anybody listening
Speaker 1: to what I'm talking about right now considers their role
Speaker 1: in the grand global useful idiot cast of characters as
Speaker 1: we continue to go on day by day. That's all
Speaker 1: I ask. And I didn't. I'm not even putting you
Speaker 1: on the useful idiot list, Be Pete, just so you know, Nope,
Speaker 1: not at all. But you probably have had a cameo
Speaker 1: just because seems like everybody gets one now if they
Speaker 1: open their mouths or engage with this cesspool of propaganda
Speaker 1: and gaslighting, etc. That's being presented to you by Global Corp.
Speaker 1: And its partner in the various black rock institutions. Oh
Speaker 1: and ps government too. So it's a grand game, and
Speaker 1: you know the Carlin line. What was again? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a big club and you ain't in it, but
Speaker 1: you can be hired for entertainment or to serve them
Speaker 1: drinks or just to be part of the blood sport
Speaker 1: in between golf outings, if you'd like just saying, And
Speaker 1: that's where I'm at, and I really truly hope that
Speaker 1: my friend be Pete and Jimmy James and anybody else
Speaker 1: listening does not feel personally attacked by any of this,
Speaker 1: because I'm not personally attacking anyone, And I don't know
Speaker 1: how to scream, you know, at the cop who's got
Speaker 1: a gun pointed at me various times telling me drop
Speaker 1: your weapon. I don't have a weapon, therefore I can't
Speaker 1: even be pointing it at you. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how to drop something I don't have. It's not what
Speaker 1: I'm doing, and you can you know. I don't edit
Speaker 1: these things, So listener, take it to leave it as
Speaker 1: you see it, and hopefully he got something useful out
Speaker 1: of it. But would you like to answer any more
Speaker 1: of Jimmy James, you know, about what it is he'd
Speaker 1: like to say about the film or anything before I
Speaker 1: let him back on to have at it again.
Speaker 3: No, by all means, jog go ahead and continue on
Speaker 3: this discussion because you lost me a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, apologies, not my intention again, but uh, I'll just
Speaker 1: let Jimmy James talk a little more, and uh maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he's months to tell me that I've done something wrong. Perhaps,
Speaker 1: and uh again, I'll just apologize to Jimmy James before
Speaker 1: he even says it if he thinks I did something
Speaker 1: wrong here. Sorry, let's see where's my thing to unmute him?
Speaker 1: And then I'd like to move on back to Uh.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, we got to go back to Danny at
Speaker 1: least and then maybe catch a break before we run
Speaker 1: totally out of time. So I want to try and
Speaker 1: get around and people can still join three one nine, five,
Speaker 1: two seven, five zero one six Jimmy, You're back on
Speaker 1: and uh floor yours again. As far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 7: Ryan never did get what's your thought on the film?
Speaker 7: So do you agree with me that this thing clearly
Speaker 7: was has nothing to do This film completely fictional, completely fictional.
Speaker 7: The very title is misleading. As I told you last week,
Speaker 7: Chuck has nothing to do. Of course, people think they're
Speaker 7: watching a piece of entertainment and they're getting instead gonna
Speaker 7: get brainwashed. And the title alone pulls in the people
Speaker 7: who would be interested in actually the Umbrella Man or
Speaker 7: anything JFK related, And this film, and my opinion, could
Speaker 7: work people over in their minds as far as making
Speaker 7: them feel like fools for believing in so called conspiracy theories.
Speaker 7: That's what I saw was an attack piece on me
Speaker 7: in my community. I have.
Speaker 4: B Pete.
Speaker 7: I agreed the film, God knows, I didn't. It was painful,
Speaker 7: but someone definitely knew something.
Speaker 6: There was the occasional what hat Sarway like, Yeah, the
Speaker 6: hooker with the article just happened to drive a Ramblers.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even right model dressed not the point dressed
Speaker 1: as Jackie Kennedy.
Speaker 7: Was a shot at okay.
Speaker 1: Dressed as Jackie Kennedy. I'm sorry, Jimmy James. Just to
Speaker 1: point out a couple of things. The Rambler like Ruth
Speaker 1: Payne had dressed as Jackie Kennedy, literally masquerading as her
Speaker 1: as a hooker and play actor. In what year was
Speaker 1: this supposed to be taking place? Jimmy, I do forget that.
Speaker 3: Part eighty three.
Speaker 1: Eight three eighty three. Okay, So in eighty three, twenty
Speaker 1: years right, they kept saying, twenty years after the assassination. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, here's Jackie Kennedy showing up at a conspiracy
Speaker 1: theorist convention a lady dressed as Jackie Kennedy. Obviously he
Speaker 1: was a prostitute.
Speaker 3: The only way it could have been better as if
Speaker 3: the Rambler had been a station wagon. Now I'm surprised
Speaker 3: I didn't try to find one.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't even remember what it was. I was
Speaker 1: stuck on the fact that they were calling it a
Speaker 1: rambler anyway.
Speaker 3: Uh, and it was yeah, red rambler sedan Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I I didn't I didn't even catch that much
Speaker 1: detail because I was still too busy on tacking, you know,
Speaker 1: unpacking other things I saw. But my opinion is is
Speaker 1: almost irrelevant. I think the only thing that you have
Speaker 1: a point of agreement with with b Pete on though
Speaker 1: here is that it's a terrible film. Uh and definitely
Speaker 1: a no no thought up from either one of you,
Speaker 1: is what I'm thinking. Unless maybe there's some value that
Speaker 1: I missed in what you were saying, Jimmy, is there
Speaker 1: is there any value to this film in your mind
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 7: I think it would be a valuable film to show
Speaker 7: in military colleges as an example of low budget propaganda.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not the lowest budget thing I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Uh. You know, Bill Cooper had a
Speaker 1: thing he did basically with a camquarder and even camcorder
Speaker 1: and VCR on screen graphics that were created by gold
Speaker 1: Star back then, because the Koreans actually made it so
Speaker 1: you could create your home entertainment a little better with VHS.
Speaker 1: And that was odd because that was from the home unit,
Speaker 1: not even the camp quarterer. But anyway, Bill Cooper's low
Speaker 1: budget production is about the next step down in my mind.
Speaker 1: And camp quarters and VCRs were still expended in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight if you got really good ones, so you know,
Speaker 1: And that's when he put that thing out, and he
Speaker 1: also got you know, black and white stuff. He had
Speaker 1: to transfer things, and he got something from I don't
Speaker 1: know Nova or one PBS thing where they did a
Speaker 1: graphic as well utilized it as part of his own thing.
Speaker 1: He wasn't generating his own computer generated graphics. But either way,
Speaker 1: copyright issues aside, and that dead stare of Bill Cooper
Speaker 1: as he explained, I'm going to tell you something because
Speaker 1: I served in Vietnam and President Kennedy was shot by
Speaker 1: the driver. Yeah, it didn't quite go to that level.
Speaker 1: I would say, in its defense, it wasn't quite that
Speaker 1: low budget. But in today's you know, reality, and even
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen when this thing was released, kinda on
Speaker 1: part with that sort of in my mind almost there.
Speaker 1: Not quite as low, but almost like it's in the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: but it ain't on the same block just yet. As that.
Speaker 1: Anybody disagree with me? Or do I have this wrong?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Start with start with me, Pete this time? Do you
Speaker 1: disagree with me about that? I mean, is that about
Speaker 1: the level we're talking about here budget wise? Or do
Speaker 1: you do you think I.
Speaker 3: Misjudge it would? It was low budget, but I've seen
Speaker 3: a lot lower budget ones out there. Oh yeah, So,
Speaker 3: I mean I gotta give them credit, you know, for
Speaker 3: what they were trying to do. You know, the home
Speaker 3: set that they had was nice, the little conference, you know,
Speaker 3: they for the budget that they had, they did a
Speaker 3: good job. I'll put it that way.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, but the home set and whatever, I mean,
Speaker 1: they could have just gotten lucky with somebody living in
Speaker 1: a house that they were able to shoot in that
Speaker 1: already had these things.
Speaker 3: They made the best of what low budget they had.
Speaker 3: I'll put it that way, because really budget why you
Speaker 3: can tell it was low budget film just based on
Speaker 3: the quality of the actors. But for the most part,
Speaker 3: they made best use of their money, I'll put it
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 1: But they were they had a lot more budget relatively speaking,
Speaker 1: and even given the uh you know, time shift for
Speaker 1: inflation and the value of the dollar, et cetera. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not as good or efficient to use
Speaker 1: some money. And uh, you know, Texas Chainsaw A Massacre
Speaker 1: had less money and did a better job. You know,
Speaker 1: totally different genre, I know, but I mean you take
Speaker 1: a look at that low budget piece of work. Uh
Speaker 1: they probably had well no, wait a minute, you know what,
Speaker 1: Texas Chainsaw A Massacre might have had a higher budget.
Speaker 1: I got to look that up. But again, I think
Speaker 1: they are again in the same neighborhood, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: as far as you know, low budget film and would
Speaker 1: it got It's definitely not as effective as the Blair
Speaker 1: Witch Project for a low project, low uh low budget.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, return on the dollar and I don't know.
Speaker 3: This film was shown at a couple of film festivals
Speaker 3: before it was released, and I don't think it was
Speaker 3: released to the box office. I can't find anything that
Speaker 3: shows a box office amount. I think it went straight
Speaker 3: to streaming or something straight to video.
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm a DVD.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't believe I'm going to say this, but
Speaker 1: I mean, in defense of the modern landscape of where
Speaker 1: you can put a film, whether it was released in
Speaker 1: the box office or not might not be relevant. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of things are not released in the
Speaker 1: box office. I mean a seriously expensive Star Trek film
Speaker 1: was recently released only for a streaming platform, and you
Speaker 1: would think that something that's a no brainer merchandise wise
Speaker 1: and everything else. And by the way, you want to
Speaker 1: talk about a bad script. Anyhow, the most recent Star
Speaker 1: Trek film flop and they didn't even try to put
Speaker 1: it in theaters to the best of my knowledge, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong about that, but the push definitely was
Speaker 1: about putting it on paramount plus. So there's a way
Speaker 1: to you know, make probably thirty of these things for
Speaker 1: the price of what they you know, in other words,
Speaker 1: they's probably spent twenty Well, let's be more generous. They
Speaker 1: probably could make twenty of these films with the budget
Speaker 1: they gave to the latest Star Trek streaming film. Uh
Speaker 1: and awful also, So I'm just saying, comparatively speaking, I
Speaker 1: don't know how effective they were with the money because
Speaker 1: I'm too distracted by what I see on the screen.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that, Jimmy James? Is that
Speaker 1: a fair assessment? Or am I flat wrong again?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 7: I never said you is wrong about anything.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I'm not saying you said it. It's
Speaker 1: just I'm often seen. I'm sorry, I'm often I'm often
Speaker 1: told that I'm flat wrong about everything, not necessarily by you.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, am I flat wrong again? You know?
Speaker 1: For everybody to witness or you know, is there is
Speaker 1: there something more to it? Tell me about what your
Speaker 1: thoughts are on you know, budgetary use and you know
Speaker 1: quality of the film.
Speaker 7: Let's say, I think it's amazing that this what was
Speaker 7: the man's name, Garassi. I'm amazed he did it. He
Speaker 7: put together, he put around, he made a script built
Speaker 7: around his premise, he got the people together, He did it,
Speaker 7: and things out there. People will watch it and people.
Speaker 1: Will okay, okay, fair enough. I'm often amazed by what
Speaker 1: people got money to do and somebody else signed off
Speaker 1: on cher I'll give you millions of dollars to do this.
Speaker 1: I'm often amazed by stuff like that. Uh So, I
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from there. So what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts purely about that? Once again, VP, because I
Speaker 1: might have lost track of them in my own mental
Speaker 1: uh you know, in my own mental derangement here regarding this.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you think about that quality? Were
Speaker 1: what they paid for it? Et cetera. What do you
Speaker 1: think they got out of their money? And did they
Speaker 1: get bang for their buck?
Speaker 3: Essentially, I think they made good use of their money.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out if Pittsburgh had put any
Speaker 3: money behind it. The one listing for the movie it
Speaker 3: was listed on a Pittsburgh film page where they promote
Speaker 3: anything that you know, I guess that takes place in
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and that's where this thing was settled. So I
Speaker 3: don't know for their money, I think they got their
Speaker 3: money's worth. I think they made the best use of
Speaker 3: their money and making the film. The problem with the
Speaker 3: film that for me, is being able to sit through
Speaker 3: those dead spots between a lack of dialogue or a
Speaker 3: lack of action on the screen, and it just the
Speaker 3: very first part of it just drug and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden it takes this turn where at the
Speaker 3: blink of an eye, he's fixated on the JFK assassination,
Speaker 3: and then all the dialogue revolves around his involvement in that,
Speaker 3: like at the Thanksgiving dinner when he shows up and
Speaker 3: he's trying to tell him what's going on and he
Speaker 3: gets mocked and everything. I think they made good use.
Speaker 3: I really would like to sit down with Michael Grasso
Speaker 3: and ask him what hell were you thinking when you
Speaker 3: wrote the script, because I'd be curious to see how
Speaker 3: he tries to make the connection between a couple losing
Speaker 3: a kid and the dad going off the deep end
Speaker 3: while the mom's out running around in the nice, you know,
Speaker 3: cabin in the woods, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: everything's hanky dory when they get back together at the end.
Speaker 3: It's just I really would like to know what was
Speaker 3: going through his mind when he wrote this thing, how
Speaker 3: he got that connection to the umbrella man, because that's
Speaker 3: the part I don't understand well.
Speaker 1: I think that if you carefully analyze some of these things,
Speaker 1: they begin to make more sense in the nonsense, if
Speaker 1: you don't mind me using that phrase, because Pittsburgh. The
Speaker 1: reason why it's there is because, if memory serves, isn't
Speaker 1: that where they go for the conference is in Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and the family like either the families from Pittsburgh or
Speaker 1: they go for the conference. I forget which. Do you
Speaker 1: remember Bpe in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3: Isn't that where what's his name? The medical examiner holds
Speaker 3: his things in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my point I was trying to get to.
Speaker 1: But point of reference in the movie is either the
Speaker 1: conference was there or that's where the couple was from.
Speaker 1: Do you know which one it was?
Speaker 3: No, that's where That's where is where the couple was from.
Speaker 3: He goes to Dallas for the conference.
Speaker 1: Because he well, no, he doesn't go to Dallas for
Speaker 1: the conference, because they travel from the meeting at the
Speaker 1: conference to Dallas and they take a long trip in
Speaker 1: the car to get there. So the conference wasn't in Dallas.
Speaker 1: We got to look back at this because I'm misremembering it,
Speaker 1: because it becomes a bit convoluted. Let's say, as it
Speaker 1: goes along, because remember they take the long road trip
Speaker 1: and end up in Dealey Plaza where he's I'm standing where,
Speaker 1: Here's where the pruiter was, Here's where the umbrella man
Speaker 1: was standing, you know during the climb accident film, right,
Speaker 1: or the seeming climaccident film, which again was another head fake.
Speaker 1: But you know who's counting. So you know, we know
Speaker 1: that they traveled to get to Dallas like all night
Speaker 1: or all day driving, so they weren't in Dallas for
Speaker 1: the conference.
Speaker 3: Okay, well where was the conference at?
Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to remember, is whether the
Speaker 1: couple was from Pittsburgh or the conference was in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: because the only Pittsburgh connections in my mind is that
Speaker 1: in the eighties there were a lot of people connected
Speaker 1: to the assassination that lived in the area around Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: First of all, because I was contacting them in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight, say five years after this movie was supposed
Speaker 1: to be taking place in its setting in timeline, right.
Speaker 1: But also that is indeed where the WEC conferences were held.
Speaker 1: Ducane University is right there, etc. Etc. So Sira weckt
Speaker 1: his connection to the assassination, I think given a nod
Speaker 1: here and even the inclusion of Pittsburgh in the storyline.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Am I?
Speaker 1: Am I crazy? There?
Speaker 2: Or what?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: No, not necessarily I'm looking up right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, you look at Jimmy. You you had something to
Speaker 1: say about this? Am I crazy? Or you know? Is
Speaker 1: it connected? Et cetera? What's your thought? Wellby Pete looks
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 7: It's been a year or two since I actually watched
Speaker 7: the movie, but I remember it's sins. They most likely
Speaker 7: started in Pittsburgh and ended up in Dallas. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh was it for a while, not only because of
Speaker 7: Sir h Watt, the crazy uh that crazy guy came
Speaker 7: a senator of course. It was on the Wark Commission.
Speaker 7: Was from there. What's his name there?
Speaker 1: No, okay, let's be uh okay, yeah, for the record,
Speaker 1: before you go any further though, Jimmy arl Inspector was
Speaker 1: a Philadelphia based guy, which is on the other side
Speaker 1: of the state from Pittsburgh geographical, but he was.
Speaker 3: A Rocky territory.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well, here's the thing. Arle Inspector was like
Speaker 1: a Philly guy. Philadelphia. He was a Philadelphia lawyer and
Speaker 1: I believe his district encompassed Philadelphia, so the eastern part
Speaker 1: of the state. Pittsburgh is in the western part of
Speaker 1: the state. So but I am telling you that people literally,
Speaker 1: you know, not in the public eye or for intentionality,
Speaker 1: for some reason, did congregate a bunch of key witnesses,
Speaker 1: especially medical ones, in the Pittsburgh area. That's where they
Speaker 1: were just living, you know, relatively close to Pittsburgh for
Speaker 1: some reason. Not telling you, I understand that, but there
Speaker 1: were people that were there, and you can go back
Speaker 1: and check. Best reference might be William Law's book about that,
Speaker 1: because that's just where these people were. And indeed that's
Speaker 1: where I got a rare you know, five minutes with
Speaker 1: a doctor face to face who was the guy in
Speaker 1: charge of the and I'm one of the few people
Speaker 1: that did that. But I absolutely failed in my task
Speaker 1: of gaining anything new from him because I just aggravated
Speaker 1: him and ended the already, you know, like I'll give
Speaker 1: you a few minutes and if you you know, if
Speaker 1: you talk a certain way, I'll let the conversation continue.
Speaker 1: I totally failed. But again, given that it was like
Speaker 1: ninety one or ninety two when I did it, you know,
Speaker 1: I was not as well informed as I am today,
Speaker 1: and I probably could have gotten more out of that
Speaker 1: doctor whose name is actually slipping my mind at the moment,
Speaker 1: and should sorry.
Speaker 7: I see what you're saying, Chuck, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 7: That is interesting. There was a lot of those hospital
Speaker 7: people that were in Dallas that ended in.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, didn't they Yeah, they did.
Speaker 7: They just all sudden were gone out of Dallas, a
Speaker 7: lot of them, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well people did scatter, you know, in the years
Speaker 1: that followed, because they just did. I'm not even all
Speaker 1: bringing an explanation there. But what's weird is I mean
Speaker 1: you had people like Gerald Custer, you know, again, another
Speaker 1: X ray guy. But it wasn't all X ray guys.
Speaker 1: There were other medical people specifically that were witnesses to
Speaker 1: different things that just, you know, by happenstance coincidence, ended
Speaker 1: up in Pittsburgh. And I don't know the answer to
Speaker 1: that question why, But it's just something that we could
Speaker 1: reliably say that an odd amount of people seem to
Speaker 1: congregate there. There's another congregation that took place in Florida.
Speaker 1: But one could say as people got older, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a typical place of retirement. So you know,
Speaker 1: causality and correlation may not be related there. But again,
Speaker 1: an odd cluster of people emerge right there in the
Speaker 1: state of Florida, and particularly in one geographical location I
Speaker 1: don't know how to describe at this very moment, but
Speaker 1: you know, And then there were people that just continue
Speaker 1: to exist in and around Dallas because well, hell, some
Speaker 1: people do stay close to their hometown, or at least
Speaker 1: they used to, uh you know.
Speaker 7: But then again, right, you know, and plus people that
Speaker 7: aren't doctors, that aren't independently wealthy. Well that's just like
Speaker 7: cab poor cab drivers that you can't just pick up
Speaker 7: and take out a town.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go.
Speaker 7: But guys, I'm really sorry. I took up an awful
Speaker 7: lot of time and I know Danny is on the
Speaker 7: line and there's only fifteen minutes left. So I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1: Holy I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Let me audience, No, no, no, hey, look my fault
Speaker 1: if that's what happened, Jimmy. But for that reason, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to put you on mute and try to
Speaker 1: get back around to everybody, if you don't mind. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I hope that somebody learns something from this interaction. Is
Speaker 1: all I'm going to say about it, but stick around.
Speaker 1: Who knows what will happen in the next fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. So Danny's had fruit for thought and plenty
Speaker 1: of time to marinate in his own, in his own
Speaker 1: mentality here while he was on hold. Hopefully I'm bringing
Speaker 1: him back around to get around here, Danny, what do
Speaker 1: you have to offer? And offer it any way? You
Speaker 1: want no explanation, need to just drop the bombs.
Speaker 10: Okay, all roads lead the picks for the JFK assassination
Speaker 10: could be.
Speaker 2: And I want to know how ROBERTA.
Speaker 10: Clemente's death was somehow a cover for this cover up.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I would wager that you could
Speaker 1: probably find that on YouTube somewhere. Not saying that it's valid,
Speaker 1: but I'm willing to bat.
Speaker 2: I believe it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody tried to make a thing. What was the
Speaker 1: most weird one I caught recently? It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's related to Charlie Kirk's death, Like, Charlie Kirk's death
Speaker 1: is related to the JFK assassination. Here's why. Uh really, Oh,
Speaker 1: I know what it was? In fact, here, here's where,
Speaker 1: And everybody's gonna like do their version of when I
Speaker 1: say this, but yeah, because Kirk was clearly killed by
Speaker 1: Masad and so was JFK. Because once again, you know,
Speaker 1: it's all about you know, much like oranges and apples,
Speaker 1: it's all about the juice, you know. And yeah, that's
Speaker 1: where they go is like they're like, oh, well they
Speaker 1: killed Charlie Kirk and they killed JFK because they were
Speaker 1: saying things that they shouldn't know about Israel. So the
Speaker 1: Masad did it. That again, just to be clear, is
Speaker 1: not endorsed by me, not encouraged by me. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it because I'm afraid to anybody or anything.
Speaker 1: It's just that that level of stupidity is just something
Speaker 1: I don't want to be caught dead, even imagining that
Speaker 1: somebody thinks I support. But my god, you know, literally
Speaker 1: there's a thing out there about this now. It's literally connected,
Speaker 1: and they have about forty five minutes of material about this, okay,
Speaker 1: just to give you an idea. It's not a five
Speaker 1: minute thing. So yeah, why not? Sure what else? Cookie
Speaker 1: monster was created to cover it up for kids? I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, we could go in different directions.
Speaker 1: There's the scientology theory now gaining traction again. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: or maybe you know JFK was killed. He was actually
Speaker 1: a woman.
Speaker 10: I don't know scientology conspiracy with the JFK assassination.
Speaker 1: Indeed there is, and I got to tell you that
Speaker 1: it's so convoluted. I I don't think I could articulate
Speaker 1: it without studying it right before airtime. But it's there.
Speaker 1: It does exist, just saying also he was just you know,
Speaker 1: my favorite still that that continues to live and breathe
Speaker 1: is that he was actually he faked his death and
Speaker 1: came back as Jimmy Carter, so you know, because he's
Speaker 1: a Democrat and therefore don't care about the Kennedy assassination
Speaker 1: because he was just another sick, evil, twisted Democrat and
Speaker 1: clearly a pervert. That is another thing that people are
Speaker 1: working with. No, No, that JFK was such a pervert
Speaker 1: that he needed to fake his own day and come
Speaker 1: back as Jimmy Carter because he's part of the elite,
Speaker 1: and he's also part of the you know, all kinds
Speaker 1: of freaky sex cult things that democrats are all involved
Speaker 1: in because they're the dark evil, and he was part
Speaker 1: of the dark evil underbelly, like he you know, he
Speaker 1: might have lived long enough to get on Epstein Island,
Speaker 1: but you know, we don't know it because who knows
Speaker 1: what identity assumed there. But no, there's a whole thing
Speaker 1: about Kennedy faked his death and returned to public life
Speaker 1: as Jimmy Carter. And they've got, you know, pictures trying
Speaker 1: to prove it, and yeah, and all kinds of other
Speaker 1: alleged evidence to make the allegation. Yeah, no, that's a
Speaker 1: popular theory. JFK was Jimmy Carter, and it was because
Speaker 1: he was a pervert who did drugs and hanged everybody
Speaker 1: else's wife. And that's why, I mean literally, it's that's
Speaker 1: just part of it obviously. But still, and then he
Speaker 1: came back with a redeemed image and a fake identity
Speaker 1: and it was Jimmy Carter so he could be reinstalled
Speaker 1: as president, you know, Democrats.
Speaker 10: And so Jimmy Carter would have been John F. Kennedy's
Speaker 10: alter ego.
Speaker 1: No alter ego, assumed identity. He's the same guy. No,
Speaker 1: I'm serious, he's the same guy, but now he's Jimmy Carter,
Speaker 1: so they could return him to power without having to
Speaker 1: explain how a dead man came back to office, you know,
Speaker 1: just saying this is one of the things that's out there.
Speaker 10: So I get another question here with jfk. Now, you're
Speaker 10: going to be there in November as those group of
Speaker 10: folks gonna show up there to get John John It's
Speaker 10: gonna show up finally.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. That's another thing too,
Speaker 1: is don't forget that. You know, some of the same
Speaker 1: people that say he became Jimmy Carter were also willing
Speaker 1: to say that John F. Kennedy Junior faked his death
Speaker 1: and was waiting for Trump the Messiah to arrive so
Speaker 1: he could become his vice president. But I gotta say,
Speaker 1: if that's the case, I mean, whoe woe to the
Speaker 1: credit you got to give to the plastic surgeon who
Speaker 1: changed him into Jay Evans or Mike Pence. I wasn't televant.
Speaker 3: What wasn't that a cute thing to JK Jr? Coming back?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but if you if you had gone with
Speaker 1: me last year, you could have seen some of them
Speaker 1: people in purpose person, which Jimmy James says they weren't
Speaker 1: really the people, but they were the same people with
Speaker 1: the Q signs and you know, waiting for John John
Speaker 1: to return to the Grassy Knoll on an anniversary to
Speaker 1: announce that he was going to be Trump's vice president.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I would.
Speaker 10: I would really love to talk to those people because
Speaker 10: I want to know about their evidence of like one
Speaker 10: Ton will Day where they kind of like already executed Hillary,
Speaker 10: you know, and and Trump was gonna like round up
Speaker 10: all these petals. You know what his Trump's spiritual advice.
Speaker 10: I think his name is Morris. He just got plugged
Speaker 10: guilty to to moless than a twelve year old for
Speaker 10: five years. You know, he's getting six months, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 10: just what what? What do you what? Well, wasn't that
Speaker 10: forty year old?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really don't know. Well, b Pete
Speaker 1: immediately said, wasn't that a forty year old case? I
Speaker 1: think is what he just said. But you know, the
Speaker 1: relevance of these things, I can't even keep up. It
Speaker 1: could be Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it was back in the eighties. Supposedly he
Speaker 3: the same kid for like five years back in the eighties.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Okay, you guys have more knowledge on this than I do,
Speaker 1: so I have to defer to you. But amazingly this week,
Speaker 1: to me, the most remarkable. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to call it, but you know, the truly right
Speaker 1: wing freak show online that is occurring, and it is
Speaker 1: a freak show when I tell you the following, as
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, full twenty four hours, Barack Obama's
Speaker 1: under arrest and already in custody and confessing to crimes
Speaker 1: you won't even believe. Really, yeah, like he's already And
Speaker 1: because this literally went on for a full twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, people disappeared their video or dropped
Speaker 1: off of my algorithm now because there were multiple propagators
Speaker 1: of said propaganda out there that he's already been busted.
Speaker 1: Now they've done this before where he was supposedly arrested
Speaker 1: for cocaine trafficking, et cetera. But this time in the storyline,
Speaker 1: Trump's really got him and he is in custody and
Speaker 1: we're about to see if former president tried for treason
Speaker 1: in public. Went on for twenty four hours just saying
Speaker 1: among these were horrible colonies.
Speaker 10: You go ahead, okay, because this is today is the
Speaker 10: anniversary the thirty third Anniversity of Brockhamachelle. So do you
Speaker 10: think the picture I saw them most smiling happiness with
Speaker 10: Cristis actors, and they were in custody of Trump.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, just.
Speaker 10: What I got out of your pick is this horrible movie?
Speaker 10: Is how where people's imaginations go? Yeah, twisted the facts
Speaker 10: and the truth?
Speaker 1: Well remember when that these videos also have to contend with.
Speaker 1: You know, first of all, Michelle is actually Michael Obama.
Speaker 1: It's a man anyway, you know, which that's still going
Speaker 1: on with Candice Owens and the accusation with the French
Speaker 1: president's wife, you know, who did smack his ass pretty much,
Speaker 1: you know, did the bitch slap on him right there
Speaker 1: and it got caught on camera. But you know, that's
Speaker 1: supposed to be a man, Michelle Obama supposed to be
Speaker 1: a man. And to be honest with you, I covered
Speaker 1: the emergence of that conspiracy theory with people on a
Speaker 1: whole network convinced it was absolutely real back in twenty
Speaker 1: oh yeah, twenty fourteen, people were convinced that Michelle Obama
Speaker 1: was definitely a man. Like it's indisputable and here's why.
Speaker 1: And it was kind of brand new, and it was
Speaker 1: circulating quite well, and I kind of was dumbfounded in saying,
Speaker 1: what in the hell just happened to alternative media and
Speaker 1: the conspiracy theory community at the time. What the hell
Speaker 1: is going on is what I was asking because the
Speaker 1: video evidence at the time, and you can hear me
Speaker 1: react to it when people were like literally hounding me
Speaker 1: to cover it and look at it. You got to
Speaker 1: see this. It's a man. It's a man. It's a man.
Speaker 1: And they were doing it to me in phone calls
Speaker 1: and in private messages, and my fellow hosts on the
Speaker 1: network were like, dude, you got to see this. You
Speaker 1: have a great mind for analyzation. Look at this, look
Speaker 1: at this, look at this. And I did it on air.
Speaker 1: I went, Okay, finally I'm going to do this on air.
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at it before. And I paused from
Speaker 1: an on air discussion and let somebody else take over
Speaker 1: to mic on my show, who was a host from
Speaker 1: another show. I said, look, you take over the mic
Speaker 1: and talk to people for a few minutes. I'm going
Speaker 1: to go mute and view this evidence. If you don't
Speaker 1: mind these video pieces that you say are absolute, certain
Speaker 1: proof and everything. I'm going to go look at him
Speaker 1: right now first time and you can hear my reaction
Speaker 1: where I'm like, well, you know, if I were just
Speaker 1: to take this in and view it, Michelle, Obama looks
Speaker 1: like a man in these videos. Now I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you what the videos make it look like. But wow,
Speaker 1: this is weird. And the first question out of my
Speaker 1: mouth was, you know, why would this matter in the
Speaker 1: grand scope of how much this guy is damaging the country, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, was my opinion and hasn't changed much
Speaker 1: since his departures. I do believe that Barack Obama did damage,
Speaker 1: and I don't need to incessantly throw in brock Hussei
Speaker 1: Obama into every conversation. But you know, we were still
Speaker 1: reeling from like, you know, the presidential run where you know,
Speaker 1: people were screaming that, you know, one guy has an
Speaker 1: illegitimate black child and the other one is from Kenya. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that was literally the conversation I said. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the things I said then is no matter
Speaker 1: what these kinds of things are going to spiral into
Speaker 1: something much much worse as far as confusion and convolusion.
Speaker 1: Even if these things are correct, both of them. Let's
Speaker 1: say which it was that McCain had an adopt did
Speaker 1: child from Bangladesh or something. Uh, and it became you know,
Speaker 1: his illegitimate black child.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I found it terribly disturbing that everybody was ignoring
Speaker 1: the true life, illegitimate black child of Bill Clinton at
Speaker 1: the time, because I do believe Danny.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: Danny is his first name, and he basically looks like
Speaker 1: a black Bill Clinton. I mean, you know, visually, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of convincing. Yeah, and his mother had definite proximity.
Speaker 1: And yet this was being ignored by everybody, including his
Speaker 1: so called opponents.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to cover it. But you know, imagine now today,
Speaker 1: by the way, just quick mind experiment, everybody could do
Speaker 1: for themselves in ten seconds. So just no matter where
Speaker 1: you stand, imagine for a moment that somebody came out
Speaker 1: and said, hey, Trump had an illegitimate let's just pick
Speaker 1: a Hispanic child, because he just banged one of the
Speaker 1: you know, non existence so called illegals that were working
Speaker 1: at his uh at one of his properties. Because they
Speaker 1: did exist. I saw him with my own eyes. They
Speaker 1: couldn't speak English, and I guarantee you there was no
Speaker 1: legitimate paperwork on him. But let's just say for the
Speaker 1: argument's sake here that if somebody came out with that accusation, uh,
Speaker 1: it would get traction. But here's the ultimate question. Do
Speaker 1: you think it would matter even like one point one
Speaker 1: percentage in a poll anywhere? If you're against him, you're
Speaker 1: against him. If you're not, you're hot. And I don't
Speaker 1: think if he had a whole secret family of kids
Speaker 1: with you know, the ladies that changed the sheets at
Speaker 1: Trump Plaza, it would not move the needle in any direction. Really, So,
Speaker 1: you know, does it matter now? I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: what can I say? But I was convinced that sad
Speaker 1: but true, sad but true. Yeah. So you know, political
Speaker 1: scandal of the past, the political scandal of the past
Speaker 1: is definitely not the same thing today, is all I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I used the Democratic examples.
Speaker 10: Good, yeah, yeah, no, no, I mean I remember, I
Speaker 10: remember the right used to always tell the character counts,
Speaker 10: and now it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're a Republican, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 10: But if you're if you're a Democrat on the left,
Speaker 10: you know, but that's just you know, the left's got
Speaker 10: their problems too. I mean, these are what we're talking about.
Speaker 10: Making a good point. These are psyops and where they
Speaker 10: come from the left to the right. So we're fighting,
Speaker 10: we're fighting against each other. But the real thing is
Speaker 10: about the real policies of every day. Like we're talking
Speaker 10: about prices of food. It's gone up thirty percent. You know,
Speaker 10: poor people have it rough. And we're gonna sit there
Speaker 10: and wanted to grade somebody maybe who's cheating on some
Speaker 10: food stamps. How about we get more food to feed people,
Speaker 10: get people medical.
Speaker 1: Care well, because because people, you know, what it is
Speaker 1: is that people get a value assigned to them as
Speaker 1: human beings based on the first part of the descriptor
Speaker 1: as opposed to the second part. You know, they remember
Speaker 1: that they're poor, they remember that their drug addicts, they
Speaker 1: remember that they are mentally disturbed. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I saw the PTSD through line from the veterans in
Speaker 1: some of the mass shootings, and nobody wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about mental health then. But you got to say that
Speaker 1: some progress was made because Vietnam produced a much greater
Speaker 1: number of people that had these sorts of issues than
Speaker 1: the combination of Afghanistan and Iraq. And I'm not belittling
Speaker 1: the damage done or the service or the blood spilled
Speaker 1: and given in service to the country at all. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that the management of the war caused
Speaker 1: it to be less obvious of an impact on society
Speaker 1: when people returned. But you know, remember that some of
Speaker 1: those you know, homeless or unhoused people are veterans too.
Speaker 1: Remember that, when you're talking about mental health, you got
Speaker 1: to say that there were shortfalls for various people that served.
Speaker 1: And you know, conveniently people want to pick up that
Speaker 1: banner and run with it when it's working for him,
Speaker 1: but they don't like it when they're facing it otherwise.
Speaker 1: And that's just my again. You know, for inflation's sake,
Speaker 1: maybe it's up to two bucks, but it used to
Speaker 1: be two cents. So anyway, Danny, anything else you want
Speaker 1: to throw in as we run down on time because
Speaker 1: Aaron is waiting and I.
Speaker 10: Know, yeah, I will not hold up your time. Thank
Speaker 10: you for for filling my mind with the worst movie ever.
Speaker 10: I trying to digest it. Everybody have a greedy dan.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thank you. You know, Danny, I appreciate you, man,
Speaker 1: and I hope that you've just given me a very
Speaker 1: good bit of encouragement by telling me that I got
Speaker 1: you to think at all, because really that's what I
Speaker 1: want is for you to come to your own conclusions
Speaker 1: and think these things through and examine what's actually happening
Speaker 1: as best you can. Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody. I don't
Speaker 1: want to even be right. I just want to encourage
Speaker 1: others to find the right path if they can, because
Speaker 1: I don't think that I'm the guy to lead you there.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to encourage you anyway. Appreciate you for that.
Speaker 1: Back to Christian Florida real fast, and then I want to,
Speaker 1: you know, cap it with b Pete.
Speaker 4: But go ahead, oh cracty coming out guard. Why did
Speaker 4: you have to do that, Chuck?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, hey, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: I don't have any words wisdom necessarily to in part
Speaker 5: with you all tonight. I'll just to effect work to
Speaker 5: the point we're ready to focus on ourselves. Take a
Speaker 5: little time away from the media, you know, try to grow,
Speaker 5: even if it's just one plan, Just try to grow
Speaker 5: one vegetable plan.
Speaker 2: Just do something for yourself.
Speaker 1: Well you know, I say, yeah, I agree, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad you're saying that. And you don't have to be
Speaker 1: selfish to do something for yourself. You could indeed have
Speaker 1: something that you participate in that serves more than one purpose.
Speaker 1: But there's certainly nothing wrong with contributing in a positive
Speaker 1: way to the world around you, as opposed to simply,
Speaker 1: you know, swimming in the toxicity and adding to it.
Speaker 1: You know, in your short time on this earth and
Speaker 1: among the others, you could choose to contribute to it
Speaker 1: in a positive way, is all I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where you're at.
Speaker 2: Chris.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you and I'm glad you joined us. Jimmy James,
Speaker 1: if you got a quick final word, shout out whatever.
Speaker 1: Obviously you'll get another crack if you want on the
Speaker 1: Uncle Show coming up between eleven and twelve Eastern. But
Speaker 1: you know, hey, final thought punchline, go ahead, Jimmy.
Speaker 4: Thank you Chuck for.
Speaker 2: Let me speak.
Speaker 7: Stay curious, my friends piece.
Speaker 1: Ah, look at that. You know what an agreement on
Speaker 1: Jimmy's final thought, Stay curious.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I might even steal it, why not. But I don't
Speaker 1: like to repeat after others. I like to encourage and
Speaker 1: they've done something, And thank you for that, Jimmy. So
Speaker 1: b Pete, why don't you tie a bow on this
Speaker 1: bitch for the week because we had another one here.
Speaker 1: We definitely filled two hours.
Speaker 3: Well, thanks to Jimmy and Danny and Chris for calling in.
Speaker 3: Just say to everybody out there, do not take movie
Speaker 3: suggestions from Jimmy James unless you got an hour and
Speaker 3: a half did you got to absolutely do nothing other
Speaker 3: than that. We got another one in the can and
Speaker 3: looking forward to next week already.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the final recommendation is the anti recommendation, if
Speaker 1: you will, because hey, look, don't get your movie advice
Speaker 1: from Jimmy James. Is what you're trying to tell people, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, is that how we should go with it here?
Speaker 3: Pretty much?
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, fair enough, and I look, your opinions are
Speaker 1: your own, and for as long as that's true, I'm
Speaker 1: glad to hear them, gotta say, and that goes for everybody.
Speaker 1: So thanks, and indeed, help for Oatelly dot com is
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