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<v Speaker 1>Hey, before we get started, be sure to head over

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<v Speaker 1>should done mute. Okay, I show seven o'clock in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just gonna go ahead and switch right over

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<v Speaker 1>here to that screen right there, guys, good evening. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for joining us tonight. Hey, Renee, I see Renee

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<v Speaker 1>six in the chat. We're going to talk about M.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen with Ed and Steve tonight. And I got a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new radio, the Connect Systems see us seven seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>It even says M. Seventeen on the radio right there,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know it's legit. It's like reading something on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet. You know it's true because you read it

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet, right, But supposedly this is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that works. So we'll talk about that here. In a second,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to shout out to the YouTube channel members tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who have joined the chat. Wayne Tom, I

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys in there, Grayman, Poda, Steve, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Jody v A five s Ar Good evening, ed Ac three,

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<v Speaker 1>I k Randall k k R five ee Lee, see

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<v Speaker 1>you in there. Ronald T Man see you guys in there. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>good evening to all. Thank you to those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who came out to the PODA event yesterday. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have very many people, maybe eight or ten something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe now probably like seven or eight something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a fun time. We set up the

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<v Speaker 1>hex being we made a lot of contacts. Ten meters

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<v Speaker 1>was open, fifteen meters was open, Don and five SKT

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<v Speaker 1>was out there. We plugged in the triplexer to the

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<v Speaker 1>hex beam. We ran ten meters, ran fifteen meters, we

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<v Speaker 1>ran some twenty meters. Got a couple of a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of metaga out there named Mike who was a technician

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<v Speaker 1>and he sat there on ten meters with his G

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<v Speaker 1>ninety and made a lot of contacts. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a fun time. So hopefully you guys got

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the air yesterday for Parks on the

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<v Speaker 1>Air New York Q so party was apparently that same

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<v Speaker 1>day or same weekend, and Jamboree on the air was

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<v Speaker 1>of course on Saturday, so there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people on the air on Saturday. Not a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 1>just made a lot of contacts and it was all

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. So thank you to those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who I worked over the air. That was a fun time.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, so M seventeen I will give a

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<v Speaker 1>brief well i'll I'll let Steve or Ed give a

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<v Speaker 1>brief explanation of what M seventeen is, because every time

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<v Speaker 1>I do one of these videos, I go back and

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, well, it would have hoped if you

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<v Speaker 1>would explain what IM said, and like, literally, we've done

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<v Speaker 1>that like a half dozen times, because this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the first time we've talked about N seventeen on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will get them to give you a brief

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<v Speaker 1>explanation of what M seventeen is. I can give you.

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<v Speaker 1>My explanation is it's a brand new digital Kodak using Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>brand new digital voice mode using Kodeak two. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's Kodak too. I think it's two. But it's an

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<v Speaker 1>open source CODEAC so they're laughing at me right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see them in zoom. They're laughing at me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right, it's all right, it's right. They're probably

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<v Speaker 1>laughing at my Accent's New York guys laughed at the

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<v Speaker 1>Texas guy accent. And that's okay, that's sorry. But first

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<v Speaker 1>before we do that, I'm going to give the Florida

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<v Speaker 1>ed for a minute. Let me bring them on here

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, and I want to choose which. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to that one right there. Good evening

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<v Speaker 1>to you both. What's up, guys, Hey, how's it going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Jason?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? It is it is a you know, the weather

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<v Speaker 1>out here has been freaking extraordinary for the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. It was like in the forties the last

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<v Speaker 1>two or three mornings, and it's been in the like

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<v Speaker 1>mid seventies to low eighties for the last two or

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks, and I'm just loving it. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish it would. Our fall lasts about three weeks, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wish it would last the whole three months, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. But that's where we are today. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Same old garbage, join the beautiful weather. We're having a

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<v Speaker 2>resurgence of late spring early summer here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it got up to about seventy five today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Yeah, you guys are breaking up the swim trunks.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah good Okay, So, Ed, I know you want to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Ed is running for division director? Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson Division Director?

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<v Speaker 1>Hudson Division Director.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the currently appointed Hudson Division Director.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in the middle of an election right now, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to give a shout out to everybody from

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<v Speaker 2>the Hudson Division that's been out there and giving me

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<v Speaker 2>lots of support, lots of help, and also giving me

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<v Speaker 2>a hand helping out the the high school kids' St.

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<v Speaker 2>Aland Technical High School. So a shout out over there

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<v Speaker 2>to Katie two z z t Everton. He's the he's

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<v Speaker 2>their teacher. We've licensed one hundred and ten students wow

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<v Speaker 2>at that school in the last year, and we plan

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<v Speaker 2>on licensing about another one hundred and fifty more, probably

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<v Speaker 2>by January. So Everton is a graduate of the Teachers

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<v Speaker 2>Institute of Wireless Technology from the ABRL, and he's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the two model schools that the ABRL has adopted,

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<v Speaker 2>so myself in Good Game. We go down there quite often.

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<v Speaker 2>We're hanging out with the kids. We're showing them a

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<v Speaker 2>few things, they're teaching us a couple of things, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of fun. We were down there a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago and they had me in Good Game.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened to be their club day, so they were

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<v Speaker 2>recruiting for their hamm radio club and they had me

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<v Speaker 2>in Good Game at the table talking about ham radios.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of interesting with the high school kids, but good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Teachers Institute, really really great program. I think there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an upcot mean telethon coming up somewhere around Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good, okay, good.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think Josh is going to be handling that,

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<v Speaker 2>so okay. Well help And just a shout out to

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<v Speaker 2>my Eastern New York, New York City, Long Island sections,

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<v Speaker 2>and a big shout out to northern New Jersey. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much for the overwhelming support you guys have

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<v Speaker 2>been showing me in the last few weeks in regards

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<v Speaker 2>to this election.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally well, good luck to you. How many do you

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<v Speaker 1>have one person running against you or two or how

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<v Speaker 1>many is that working?

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<v Speaker 2>Just one opponent here. Okay, just one opponent in here,

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<v Speaker 2>but one more thing and then I'll turn it back

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<v Speaker 2>over to Steve. I just want to ahead let all

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<v Speaker 2>of our EWRIL members know that you need to demand

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<v Speaker 2>and deserve a director that's going to go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and get their hands dirty. My opponents said recently that

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<v Speaker 2>directors don't get their hands dirty. That's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>bull crap.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard. I've heard section managers and division directors both

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<v Speaker 1>say that once you get elected actually doing ham radio.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy who the guy who's my section manager,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely does not do that. He's got a really great

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<v Speaker 1>competition station with two or three flex radios and he

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<v Speaker 1>does a lot of competitions. You see his call signed

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<v Speaker 1>through on hammlert all the time. So yeah, he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna happen to me if I get elected,

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<v Speaker 1>And sure enough he's he's he's on the air quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. But I've heard that before, so yeah, about

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<v Speaker 1>your hands getting dirty and about not being on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you want someone that does that for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, good luck to you, man. I hope it

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<v Speaker 1>goes well for.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. All right, so we're gonna talk about what are

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<v Speaker 1>we talking about seventeen? I'm going to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, let me switch over here to this guy

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Okay, yeah, that's right. Okay. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>my Yeah, this is my CS seven seventeen. This top

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<v Speaker 1>channel selector knob doesn't seem to do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Not yet. Uh it'll it'll adjust the frequency a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Will it. Okay, See it's not anything on the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe they did, maybe they changed something.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's different. So there's a there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's two different radios on the Connect System's website, the

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<v Speaker 1>c c CS seven thousand, M seventeen and the C

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<v Speaker 1>seven seventeen plus. And I went and ordered the M

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen plus, which they claim will do M seventeen, DMR

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<v Speaker 1>and analog all at the same time. You just program

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<v Speaker 1>your channels. Didn't go well, Apparently the firmware is not

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<v Speaker 1>ready for that one yet. So I contacted Connect Systems

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, send me the one that that actually

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<v Speaker 1>is ready to go for M seventeen, and he traded

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<v Speaker 1>the order. It was no big deal, but just be

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that if you're going to order one of

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<v Speaker 1>these radios. And I put a link in the description blowout.

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<v Speaker 1>I can share it here in a minute. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is correct me if I'm wrong. This is the only

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<v Speaker 1>one that actually has M seventeen in it right now

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<v Speaker 1>from Connect Systems, and yes it is. It is. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this was going to be like a copy of

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<v Speaker 1>one of their previous radios, or maybe a T what

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<v Speaker 1>look looked like a ty T radio. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new design. I really like the design. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>very solid feeling. It's got a recessed button over here,

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<v Speaker 1>much like you'd see on like a Motorola type HT.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got the blade connector over here on the side

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<v Speaker 1>for programming, and they sent me it came with a

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<v Speaker 1>programming cable. It's got a really nice looking screen as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, got some nice way to it. It's very sturdy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah it is. It's very sturdy. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty happy with the I haven't heard it yet, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't actually used it yet. I took it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the box earlier today make sure it was charged up

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<v Speaker 1>and flashed and everything, and Steve said they're coming flashed

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<v Speaker 1>with M seventeen firmware now, so yep, zoom in on

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But what is this M seventeen were speaking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're okay. Yeah, I was gonna tell I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna let you guys give us a spiel on

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<v Speaker 1>that real quick. So let's talk about M seventeen real quick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So M seventeen first started out as a project by

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<v Speaker 3>voy check katch Marski SP five WWP in Poland. He

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<v Speaker 3>was experimenting with other digital radio modes DMR tetra, There's

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<v Speaker 3>a couple others that he was messing around with, but

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<v Speaker 3>his radio club that he was part of was really

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<v Speaker 3>you know, interested in working on digital modes, and every

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<v Speaker 3>single one of them that he came across did not

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<v Speaker 3>fit the bill for amateur radio as far as he

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<v Speaker 3>was concerned, and so he decided, well, let's just go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and make our own, and so M seventeen was born.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people always ask, you know what with

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<v Speaker 3>the M seventeen you know name, and it has nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to do with the pistol at all, as much as

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<v Speaker 3>I want it to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do purpose pistol plus radio? There you go. We've

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that'd be great. Okay, all right, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, it comes from the address of the radio

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<v Speaker 3>club in Poland. I'm not even gonna bother trying to

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<v Speaker 3>pronounce the name of it, but basically it starts with

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<v Speaker 3>the letter M and the actual building number seventeen, so

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<v Speaker 3>it comes out M seventeen. That's what they named it for.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I don't think I ever knew that. Okay, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Just do a presentation for a local club, so I

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<v Speaker 3>pretty fresh in my mind. But M seventeen is a

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<v Speaker 3>digital radio mode. It is does digital data and digital voice.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean obviously digital voices, digital data regardless, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So ever, it's all digital data. Is just that one

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<v Speaker 3>It uses the codec to voice codec, which is an

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<v Speaker 3>open source voice vocoder from Dave Roe. I forget his

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<v Speaker 3>down in Australia. He did his you know thesis on it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's actually used widely for free DV. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you've ever used free DV on HF, it's the same

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<v Speaker 3>voice codec. It's just at a higher bit rate for

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<v Speaker 3>vhfing up. When you're talking about M seventeen. M seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>does digital voice, of course, but it's also digital data.

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<v Speaker 3>We're starting to really dig into the digital data side

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<v Speaker 3>of it. So all the packet radio stuff, SMS, messaging,

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<v Speaker 3>basically anything that you can think of that would need

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of digital mode is possible through M seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things I like to point out

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<v Speaker 3>is you can use M seventeen on some TNCs that

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<v Speaker 3>are currently available, such as the Mobile Linked TNC. The

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<v Speaker 3>TNC three has it, the TNC four has it as

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<v Speaker 3>a mode that you can use. You just need a

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<v Speaker 3>ninety six hundred BOD capable radio for that TNC to

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<v Speaker 3>work with the M seventeen digital mode. And basically any

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<v Speaker 3>kiss mode application that you can think of will be

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<v Speaker 3>able to use M seventeen as it's RF protocol. So

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<v Speaker 3>things like Windlink has a pack at TNC mode, so

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<v Speaker 3>you could use M seventeen instead of having to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>pay for a viral license or you know, get a

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<v Speaker 3>packtor modem, you could use M seventeen instead. I mean, granted,

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<v Speaker 3>is VHF and up, but still, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a decent fast mode for a packet radio. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>been in development since twenty nineteen and here we are

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<v Speaker 3>now twenty twenty four. We actually have HTS with the

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen protocol now being built into it. So I've come

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<v Speaker 1>Totally good, Okay, So I actually got that. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>last time I had you guys on the streamy all

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about that seventeen module from I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>Lilygo that goes on the back of the the FtM

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand, YESU radio, and I got that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I never got you guys back on the stream. I

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<v Speaker 1>never did anything with it. So I've still got that somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We needed to do that. One of these days. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to te him up with t o uh okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. He has done that. That's right. That's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe I will do that. Okay, good deal. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Steve. That's that's that's good information. So yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see. Let me make sure that that is make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's that's yeah, that's better.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a VK five DGR.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's dav roh Yeah, okay, d DGR yep. Okay, okay, cool, great, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So this guy right here, let me make sure. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get my Oh there we go. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's better, trying to get my Make sure it's that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys aren't washed out on the background. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>this guy right here, we can we can switch back

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<v Speaker 1>over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This this is my Bridgecom Skybridge plus hot spot. And

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<v Speaker 1>I had ed Steve and Chip on a while back

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<v Speaker 1>and we discussed the WPSD operating System slash application whichever

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<v Speaker 1>one it is for for hotspots. That's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>an upgrade to pie Star and it comes with seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>built in. In fact, let me let me switch over

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<v Speaker 1>to this right here, and this is my dashboard for

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<v Speaker 1>the hot spot that's running right now. And you see

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<v Speaker 1>we've got it set up from DMR. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing I used it on. It's on four

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty three four fifty, but it's got M seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>over on the side over here, an M seventeen net

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<v Speaker 1>on the network status on the mode status. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna switch that here in just a minute. But Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd like you to take us through what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a fresh out of the box radio and

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<v Speaker 1>it's already flashed for M seventeen. You can see right

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that focuses there we go M seventeen pound sign

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<v Speaker 1>all or hashtag all, whatever you want to say with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and do you have to I guess my my my

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<v Speaker 1>main question when I first pulled it out is they

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<v Speaker 1>have they have a CPS on the Connect System's website

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<v Speaker 1>that says it's for DMR because you can flash this

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<v Speaker 1>with a DMR firmware and it'll do DMR and analog,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can flash it with an M seventeen firmware,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess it just does the digital, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>do analog. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Or so I'll be honest with you, I have not

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<v Speaker 3>messed with anything regarding DMR on this radio. The if

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<v Speaker 3>you if your program channels on through the CPS on

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<v Speaker 3>that radio, it's only going to work for DMR. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to show up in them seventeen side. So

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<v Speaker 3>right now it's just manual VFO programming.

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<v Speaker 1>But will it do analog? And so you're if you're on,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have it flashed with them seventeen firmware, will

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<v Speaker 1>it also do analog?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Oh, it will okay, yes, yes, I think I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to speak out of turn here, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think the CTCSS is also working on that, so you

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<v Speaker 3>should be able to at least activate a repeater using

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<v Speaker 3>the radio in analog as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, okay, that's good. That's good, because that it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was a little bit I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>call it misleading, but it was a little bit ambiguous

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<v Speaker 1>on the Connect System's website because it sounded like you

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<v Speaker 1>flashed it with DMR and you get analog. You flash

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<v Speaker 1>it with them seventeen and you get seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you actually hold the side top button.

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<v Speaker 1>Side top button, this one above the PTT, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So there and hold it, I'll lock the macro menu

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<v Speaker 3>open and if you push the number five, it will

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<v Speaker 3>switch you into analog.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, there it is. Yeah, and there's a CTCSS the

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<v Speaker 1>top one. Yep, okay, excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then just pressing five again, we'll put you

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<v Speaker 3>back in them seventeen. And to close the menu can

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<v Speaker 3>either well I think you have to push the button again,

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<v Speaker 3>the top button.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, yeah, we're back to the VFO screen there, okay, good, excellent, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So, uh so, let's set up seventeen. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's set it up on the hot spot first so

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<v Speaker 1>that we can see this right here.

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<v Speaker 2>M H.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna go in. I got a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I've even logged into this yet, so let

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<v Speaker 1>me see pie store. This is a very secure pie

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<v Speaker 1>store in Raspberry is the password.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't give out your password.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave out chips password. Actually, So we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>over here to I think it's uh whereas oh configuration,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. Yep, all right, So we're gonna go on here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to turn DMR off and turn M

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen on, and then I'm going to apply changes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>explain real quick one of you, if y'all don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>M seventeen use it. What do you call the talk groups, reflectors,

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<v Speaker 1>talk groups, yaser system, frusion rooms? What does M seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>cause call their their rooms or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So, if you're familiar with d star and reflectors, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know you get different modules on reflectors, M seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>is modeled after that same system it uses. So the

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<v Speaker 3>M seventeen reflector system is a subset of XLX, which

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<v Speaker 3>is again a subset of D STAR reflector systems. M

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen reflectors have twenty six modules. We call them modules,

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<v Speaker 3>so it goes through A through Z. So each M

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen reflector can have twenty six different concurrent channels and

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<v Speaker 3>they don't talk to each other, but you can have

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<v Speaker 3>different channels set for different things on a single reflector.

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<v Speaker 1>So like a d star has like two Alpha two,

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<v Speaker 1>Bravo two, Charlie two Delta and all that. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about with modules.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep. So in M seventeen it will be M

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen DASH reflector designator and then module letter. So for example,

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<v Speaker 3>the one that we use here for M seventeen is

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<v Speaker 3>obviously M seventeen DASH M seventeen, and then the popular

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<v Speaker 3>module that we use is Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>M seventeen and seventeen Charlie. Okay, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And as a matter of fact, in WPSD, that is

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<v Speaker 3>the default reflector that you are connected to. Okay, as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as you connect up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeap, gotcha? Okay, Yeah, so that's what we're seting. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing right here on the screen is yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it came up. All I did was turn M seventeen on,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you guys looked. When I went back to

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<v Speaker 1>the dashboard, they were red. It took I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>five or ten seconds and both of them connected. So

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<v Speaker 1>now they're both the network status and the module status

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<v Speaker 1>are both green. And yeah, we've got M seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of them in.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, and eight as of the last count that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and then with all of those you can go

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<v Speaker 1>a through Z. I guess you said twenty six, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense? Okay, Okay, Well that's quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of rooms and reflectors or whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay. The call sign suffix is just like if

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<v Speaker 1>I have multiple hot spots connected exactly, okay, okay, makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>station I.

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<v Speaker 3>D think of that as an SSID. It's just an

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<v Speaker 3>additional identifier for your call sign.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And then seventeen can C a N YEP.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a channel access number. You can think of it

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<v Speaker 3>like a CTCSS okay for repeaters.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, Okay, So we don't need that for a hotspot necessarily.

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<v Speaker 3>If you had multiple hot spots using similar frequencies in

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<v Speaker 3>an area, then yes, you would change the CAN for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you would have this this hot spot on

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<v Speaker 3>can zero this spot hot spot on can one. You

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<v Speaker 3>can have them set to different reflectors and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, good, okay, So I'm okay, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>change anything there. I'm gonna go back to the dashboard. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, so pair of the dashboard, it shows

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<v Speaker 1>me four three three dot four five is the is

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<v Speaker 1>my frequency. I'm in simplex mode, so it's uh, there's

420
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<v Speaker 1>no offset. Uh let's see all that's that gives me

421
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<v Speaker 1>skybridge firmer. Okay, So that's what we're gonna do there.

422
00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.000
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm gonna go back over here, and I've

423
00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.079
<v Speaker 1>got it on speaker presentation on zoom, so ed when

424
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<v Speaker 1>you start talking, it'll switch back to you.

425
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<v Speaker 2>Just f y.

426
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't hide you on purpose. David wants

427
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<v Speaker 1>to know what whiskey I'm drinking. This is just t

428
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<v Speaker 1>X bourbon. See there you go, big fancy ice cube

429
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<v Speaker 1>in the middle there.

430
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<v Speaker 2>So t X stands for Texas, Steve, That's that's where

431
00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:50.880
<v Speaker 2>it's made, Texas.

432
00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Where is Texas.

433
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<v Speaker 1>It's a place where we know how to pronounce the

434
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<v Speaker 1>word car correctly.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Of a coffee off.

436
00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, cool, fee.

437
00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:03.279
<v Speaker 3>I keep telling the story about how I had to

438
00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.039
<v Speaker 3>drive from East Texas all the way over to El Pasa.

439
00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:10.000
<v Speaker 3>So I went from Louisiana all the way to l Passo.

440
00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.680
<v Speaker 3>It took two and a half days. I couldn't believe it.

441
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bob used to get Bob used to

442
00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.880
<v Speaker 1>get our funder. Bob used to give DMR presentations or

443
00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.519
<v Speaker 1>help me with my DMR presentations, and I would I

444
00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:27.359
<v Speaker 1>would talk to him about how the way he pronounces

445
00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.359
<v Speaker 1>talk group, Like, what the hell is a talk group?

446
00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.759
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, yeah, it's about uh, it's probably about

447
00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:37.440
<v Speaker 1>uh louis you said street, So that's Streeport from s

448
00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Freeport's El Paso is probably fifteen sixteen hours with no stops.

449
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had my mother with me, so

450
00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:47.440
<v Speaker 3>I had to stop every eight hours and yeah.

451
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, all right, all right for eight hours.

452
00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we traded off. I'd drive four and she'd drive four.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, okay, well that's better than driving the whole

454
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<v Speaker 1>way yourself, I guess. But yeah, okay, all right, So

455
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go up here and I'm gonna put this

456
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<v Speaker 1>four four three four fifty No, it's four three three.

457
00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:10.960
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, okay, okay, So four three three four five

458
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<v Speaker 3>zero h and for some reason, you know, it asks

459
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<v Speaker 3>for you know, resolution to the to the fourth digit

460
00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:19.720
<v Speaker 3>after the decimal.

461
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<v Speaker 1>So right, yeah, I noticed that.

462
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.319
<v Speaker 3>The quick way to get around it is that if

463
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:25.559
<v Speaker 3>there's a zero in that spot, you can just hit

464
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.720
<v Speaker 3>okay and it'll switch to the next KA field okay,

465
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<v Speaker 3>and then you can just hit okay again if it's simplex.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Right yeah, yeah, because it asks you to sit the

467
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<v Speaker 1>trans which is easy if you're gonna if you're gonna

468
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<v Speaker 1>eventually use an M seventeen repeater, that'd be an easy

469
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<v Speaker 1>way to do it. Just set the transmit as a

470
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<v Speaker 1>plus or minus five offset for UHF good. Right, okay,

471
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<v Speaker 1>so we're on four three three four fifty now okay,

472
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<v Speaker 1>so what okay, So I want to and somebody k

473
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<v Speaker 1>C eight pff just keyed up, Chris, And I'm looking

474
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<v Speaker 1>at that on my dashboard here to the M to

475
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<v Speaker 1>my hot spot. Okay, oh yeah, he just keyed up,

476
00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and so I would hopefully but hear them here in

477
00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:04.400
<v Speaker 1>a minute. But what do I need to do? What's

478
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<v Speaker 1>the next step on the radio?

479
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<v Speaker 3>Do you have your call sign programmed into it?

480
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<v Speaker 1>I did do that, actually, yes, I was just kind

481
00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>of poking around through the menu and like, oh it

482
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:15.359
<v Speaker 1>says call sign and it was set to like I

483
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:17.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know zero's or something, but yes, I did do that.

484
00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's the most important part is that

485
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:22.960
<v Speaker 3>you got to put your call sign in just like

486
00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:27.759
<v Speaker 3>any other digital mode. The only one that's an exception

487
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:31.640
<v Speaker 3>is DMR you use a radio ID. But right, that's

488
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<v Speaker 3>one of the features that I'm seventeen is that you

489
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<v Speaker 3>don't need to sign up for an ID or anything

490
00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:38.319
<v Speaker 3>like that. Your call sign is your identifier and there's

491
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<v Speaker 3>no currently there is no system to deny access for anybody,

492
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:45.839
<v Speaker 3>so it's a it's an open system. So as long

493
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.440
<v Speaker 3>as you have a valid call sign here, it will

494
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<v Speaker 3>pass through a reflector without any issue.

495
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, so okay, so here's I couldn't remember how

496
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:54.599
<v Speaker 1>I get there, but here we do. So if we

497
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>had hit the OK button on this radio and I

498
00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:00.519
<v Speaker 1>can hear people chunk in the system, yep. We go

499
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>down to settings and we go to seventeen and the

500
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:09.079
<v Speaker 1>three options are call sign, can and can RX check.

501
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Can our X check is a promiscuous mood. So

502
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:15.559
<v Speaker 3>if you don't know the can that a repeater or

503
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 3>another radio is using. You turn that on and it

504
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.119
<v Speaker 3>will tell you which channel access number is in use.

505
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good. This is more like a If the

506
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:27.079
<v Speaker 1>CAN is just like a CTSSAS scanner, then pretty much.

507
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, all right, good, okay. So yeah, so

508
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<v Speaker 1>I have my call sign in and people are people

509
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<v Speaker 1>are ker chunking the system. I assume that they're gonna

510
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<v Speaker 1>wait for me to I assume these are people that

511
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<v Speaker 1>are watching this live.

512
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<v Speaker 3>I'd assume. So, I don't know. The reflectors had some

513
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<v Speaker 3>some pretty good activity over the past couple of days

514
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<v Speaker 3>because of Pacific on.

515
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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, did you guys do a presentation there or something?

516
00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:51.759
<v Speaker 3>I unfortunately was unable to make it out there this year,

517
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.359
<v Speaker 3>but Jonathan G four kl X he was out there

518
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:59.240
<v Speaker 3>with Jim from some radio Zoom Radio.

519
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Jonathan Taylor, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, okay,

520
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>good deal, good, okay, cool. So what's next?

521
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:09.559
<v Speaker 3>Push your PTT and talk.

522
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I don't have to do anything on the

523
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:16.599
<v Speaker 1>radio except program to figure it out.

524
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I would be a little bit further away from the

525
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.880
<v Speaker 3>hotspot so than not overloading the front end.

526
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But well, yeah, and I can do that. My point

527
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 1>is that that programming was awfully fast.

528
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I mean it's as simple as possible that

529
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:34.519
<v Speaker 3>you can make it, aside from setting channels that you know,

530
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 3>that's the only limitation that we currently have is that

531
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 3>we can't create channels on the radio just yet. But

532
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:42.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, as long as you know the frequency that

533
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 3>you're repeater or hotspot or on, it's just a matter

534
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:47.799
<v Speaker 3>of putting in your call signs set in the can

535
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 3>and putting the frequency in.

536
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>So we can't save this. So this is a VFO

537
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>right here that I can change by just pushing up

538
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.079
<v Speaker 1>and down on the button. But I can't save this

539
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>as a channel in the radio, not yet.

540
00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:59.799
<v Speaker 3>Okay, at least I haven't been able to figure it out.

541
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Rus. I'm sorry I say that again.

542
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I said. The firmware is a work in progress, right

543
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.759
<v Speaker 2>right open open RTX is working on the firmware and

544
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 2>they're opciating it as quick quick as they can.

545
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, well, no problem, Hey, it's working. That's you know.

546
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:17.559
<v Speaker 1>The last time I was I had you guys on

547
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the show. We were talking about who was going to

548
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 1>be the first uh ht, and y'all talked about that

549
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>icon that you can buy and sort of hack up

550
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>or something.

551
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

552
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>And then there was a guy that was taking the

553
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>some of the T Y T radios and he was

554
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 1>making physical hardware changes to it, and I tried to

555
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>buy one of those, and I think he got overwhelmed.

556
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>He ended up refunding my money. He's like, I can't

557
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 1>keep up with the man. So oh yeah, yeah, so

558
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.519
<v Speaker 1>but this, so this is the actual first RF producing

559
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>radio that I've had that'll do M seventeen.

560
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the first first Yeah, I guess you could say official,

561
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 3>the first official commercial off the shelf radio that you

562
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:54.759
<v Speaker 3>can buy with them seventeen. Yeah.

563
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Now, now if I wanted to do well, is there

564
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.160
<v Speaker 1>let me put me, let me word it this way.

565
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Is there an official simplex UH what'd you call? Module?

566
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if if you and I were at

567
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.079
<v Speaker 1>a Hamfest together and we we didn't we didn't have

568
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a hot spot or didn't want to use it, is

569
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 1>there an official simplex frequency or module that we would

570
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 1>that we would talk.

571
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 3>On for Region two that it's the same digital UH

572
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.000
<v Speaker 3>frequency that is you know, in use for d M

573
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:33.000
<v Speaker 3>R D STAR. Basically any simplex digital voice mode Region

574
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.920
<v Speaker 3>one does have a specific UH frequency. I don't know

575
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:37.079
<v Speaker 3>what it is off the top of my head. I

576
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 3>think it's somewhere on the four thirty three range. But

577
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.160
<v Speaker 3>here in the States it's the same you know, digital

578
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 3>frequency that everybody else uses for simplex.

579
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.799
<v Speaker 1>But what module would we use? Because if I'm on

580
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>one module you're on the other, we will be able

581
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to talk, right.

582
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, you can go direct to another HD

583
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>without needing the Internet or anything like that.

584
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>No, I understand that. So but okay, so okay, let

585
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.799
<v Speaker 1>mean I'm I'm talking to you with DMR knowledge here. Okay,

586
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>So if you set set up a DMR radio on

587
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 1>a specific timeslot and talk group on simplex like Taley

588
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>nine is the simplex Talk Group nine is usually local repeater.

589
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 1>So but if I'm on Talk Group ninety nine and

590
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you're on talk Group three one four eight, even though

591
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>we're on a simplex frequency with no offset, we wouldn't

592
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:26.359
<v Speaker 1>be able to hear each other.

593
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 3>So so turn the screen back on on your radio.

594
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, sure, okay, you see how.

595
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:37.640
<v Speaker 3>It says I hate using the term hashtag, but it

596
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.039
<v Speaker 3>says hashtag all right, yes, correct? That is that is

597
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 3>your broadcast. And I say that with air quotes broadcast destination.

598
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.119
<v Speaker 3>So what you're what you're seeing on the radio right

599
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 3>now is M seventeen is the mode and then hashtag

600
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 3>all is the destination.

601
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

602
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 3>So what you're doing is you're you're transmitting your call

603
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 3>to any radio that is willing to receive it. So

604
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.160
<v Speaker 3>there is no there's no real idea of talk group

605
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.920
<v Speaker 3>or module or anything. When you're doing simplex. It's basically

606
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:16.200
<v Speaker 3>you either have the ALL destination or a specific call

607
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:18.640
<v Speaker 3>sign or a specific target such as a reflector.

608
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if I was to go, so I can

609
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>do direct to your call sign if you and I

610
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>were standing near one another.

611
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Hypothetically, Yes, I have not tested this because I only

612
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 3>have one of these radios.

613
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, all right, So we would just need

614
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to figure out in the software how to change that

615
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 1>all to something else.

616
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 3>So if you actually push the pound button or the

617
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.799
<v Speaker 3>yeah pound button, that's how it can change your destination.

618
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 3>And it's T nine text input, just like an old

619
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.319
<v Speaker 3>cell phone. So you could put in I see you

620
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 3>know z XQ and then you just press the OK

621
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.759
<v Speaker 3>button and that locks it in and to reset it,

622
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 3>you just push the pound key twice.

623
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 1>Ah, Okay, So if I just want it, so, I

624
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>could I put M seventeen in there, so I'm just

625
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 1>transmitting on the M seventeen module and it would still

626
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>work in a hot spot.

627
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 3>So your hot spot will take the all and send

628
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.119
<v Speaker 3>it through to the reflector by being connected to a reflector,

629
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:17.720
<v Speaker 3>so you don't have to do anything on the radiant.

630
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<v Speaker 1>Thing, right, Okay, okay, okay, okay, all right, we'll get

631
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<v Speaker 1>to so. Okay, So in theory, I could either call

632
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>your call sign if we're close enough together, or we

633
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>could just choose a reflector to meet on and we

634
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:35.519
<v Speaker 1>could do pound one two three, and as long as

635
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<v Speaker 1>we're both on pound one two three, we could hear

636
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>each other. If I'm understanding you correctly, that's that's what

637
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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do.

638
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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

639
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<v Speaker 3>So the destination would have to be an actual valid target,

640
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 3>meaning that it would have to be a valid call

641
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 3>sign or valid reflector that you want to talk to

642
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 3>through your hot spot. If you're going simplex, then you

643
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 3>would want to put in somebody's call sign or you know,

644
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 3>you would put in someone's call sign or a reflector

645
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 3>that you want to talk to. So if you actually

646
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 3>since you're connected to M seventeen dash M seventeen Charlie.

647
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:16.279
<v Speaker 3>You could type in M seventeen dash one two three

648
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 3>space A and then your reflector, I mean, your hotspot

649
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 3>would automatically switch over to that reflector and then you

650
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>would just you know, either remain on that or push

651
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 3>the pound sign twice get back to all and then

652
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.039
<v Speaker 3>you're be talking on that new reflector. But if you're

653
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 3>if you're going simplex, you would need to have a

654
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 3>valid target to talk to, so it would have to

655
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 3>be somebody else's call sign or radio setup with a

656
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:42.839
<v Speaker 3>different target altogether, So it would have to be you know,

657
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 3>you would have to know that that person's call sign

658
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 3>in advance.

659
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, all right, okay, that makes sense.

660
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, okay, okay, good. It was so in

661
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>five RFX just keyed up and I was hearing him.

662
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>So let me, I'm gonna throw my callsign out here

663
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 1>and see what happened. So maybe that a little bit away.

664
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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully my repeater is working.

665
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh k C five HWB Great Bound Texas testing one

666
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<v Speaker 1>two three four five.

667
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:15.759
<v Speaker 3>I think we heard you through Ed's all Star.

668
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:19.920
<v Speaker 4>This is Mark in five RFX.

669
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was Mark in five r and that's really

670
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>clean audio. That's really clean audio. Let me switch over

671
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 1>to this real quick. Okay, Mark, good evening in five

672
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>rfs from k C five hw B sounding good out here?

673
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 4>Man, good. Yeah, I've been on seventeen the Hour for

674
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 4>about for a while now, and.

675
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 5>So I am interested in getting my my Connect Systems Radio.

676
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.519
<v Speaker 5>I've been waiting a very long time for.

677
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's in Flower Mountain's like two towns away from me.

678
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 4>Connect Systems Radio. I pre ordered mine a long time ago,

679
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 4>so I am really interested in getting it. I'm anxious.

680
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:20.239
<v Speaker 5>So hopefully i'll get it next month, well hope.

681
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.840
<v Speaker 1>So I just, uh, I just got an email. I've

682
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>been on Jerry's uh email list for a long long time,

683
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 1>and I just got an email from him like two

684
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago something like that, and I just ordered one.

685
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.159
<v Speaker 1>So I just I don't know. I don't know how

686
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>he's shipping out orders in order or not. I don't

687
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 1>say anything. I mean, he didn't know. I didn't ask

688
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>him for one. I was just like, hey, I'm just

689
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>going to order one, and I just ordered it. I

690
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 1>don't even know if he realized it was going on

691
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>the air. Or not.

692
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>But he had a handful of them up at Pacific

693
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:49.360
<v Speaker 3>on too, so did he.

694
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, all right, so maybe plus version?

695
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh they ordered the plus version. Okay, so yeah,

696
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was told that that one would take longer. Okay, Mark,

697
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 1>good deal, that thanks man, I appreciate it. Yeah, this

698
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>is the non plus version that I got. I wanted

699
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.119
<v Speaker 1>the plus version, but since it wasn't ready yet, I

700
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 1>switched it. So good to hear you, man, The audio

701
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>on this sounds terrific. That's yeah, that's the difference is

702
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the plus version. I'll probably grab one of those when

703
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>they're ready as well, because it'll do everything so well

704
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 1>that I mean, that's that's awfully simple to set up

705
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and go.

706
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:27.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean it almost seems dangerously simple.

707
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it really does. It really does. So you've got, uh,

708
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you've got twenty six different modules inside of how many

709
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 1>different reflectors did you say there were?

710
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 3>There is two hundred and eight. I'll send you a

711
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 3>link for the hold on my droid star is acting up?

712
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's fine.

713
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.039
<v Speaker 3>I'll send you a link here for the the reflector

714
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 3>page and you can look up all the reflectors that

715
00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:57.840
<v Speaker 3>are available.

716
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Uh, Steve does a does a question in the chat?

717
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Did you create an ad hoc private simplex group for

718
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:09.320
<v Speaker 2>an event.

719
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 3>In the sense that it would be as private as

720
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:19.440
<v Speaker 3>an analog channel in use? Yes, you know, just pick

721
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 3>a frequency and go direct, you know, uh, using M

722
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 3>seventeen rather than anything else. There's there's no I mean,

723
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 3>you could, you could switch the channel access number, you know,

724
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of give yourself the CTCSS like functionality. But as

725
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:43.039
<v Speaker 3>far as having something private, obviously that's outside the scope

726
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 3>of amateur radio, you know, it would it would have

727
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 3>to be a channel in use, you know, specific for

728
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 3>whatever event that you're doing. But yeah, I mean you

729
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 3>could to make it a whole lot simpler. You could

730
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.920
<v Speaker 3>put a reflector on a Raspberry Pie and connect that

731
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 3>up with a radio or you're connected up with I'm

732
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 3>sorry not a radio connect HOWK spots into it, or

733
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, something like that, and just basically have your

734
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 3>own reflector. But again, as if you're using RF, it's

735
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 3>not going to be private unless you set something like

736
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.599
<v Speaker 3>the channel access number. But even then it's you know,

737
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 3>no more private than an analog channel with CTCSS, right.

738
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've often told people they should get on two

739
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty or six meter FM simplex add to him Fest

740
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 1>because nobody else is there. I mean you could almost

741
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 1>you could almost have a private channel that way. You know,

742
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.559
<v Speaker 1>it's totally open, but you know anybody can do it,

743
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>but nobody uses it. So yeah, in that regard, I

744
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 1>can see what you're saying. Okay, good, Yeah, I forgot

745
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to say in the beginning, we don't have Frank tonight.

746
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>He's at a family event. So thank you for watching

747
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the chat. Ed appreciate that. So if you guys have

748
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>any question, Okay, was that Allen's Frank? Yeah, it is

749
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.519
<v Speaker 1>the new Frank. Yeah, I guess yeah, well.

750
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>That question was from gray Man Poda, but.

751
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh okay, that was Tim.

752
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So Alan has a question in regards to

753
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the module one one point. Oh yeah, I have been.

754
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I've been very substitute. List of parts. I guess JLCPCB

755
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.159
<v Speaker 2>has a shortage of some of the parts, so.

756
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.440
<v Speaker 3>The best option is to wait for those parts to

757
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:24.000
<v Speaker 3>come in or order the parts from somewhere else and

758
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.280
<v Speaker 3>jail source the parts from somewhere else such as Mauser

759
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.920
<v Speaker 3>or Digitkei or something like that, and JLCPCB will take

760
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 3>those parts or they can order them on your behalf.

761
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't suggest replacing parts with equivalents unless you understand

762
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:44.119
<v Speaker 3>that this is an RF device and there's a bunch

763
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.519
<v Speaker 3>of timing that has to be considered, such as, you know,

764
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:51.280
<v Speaker 3>the crystals, the actual stability of the crystals, the tolerances

765
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.920
<v Speaker 3>on all the parts, et cetera. Were picked specifically for

766
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:58.079
<v Speaker 3>this module. So swapping out the parts, sure, you can

767
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 3>do it if you can find a an equivalent with

768
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 3>the same tolerance and and rating, but I would wait. Unfortunately,

769
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the issues that we've run into are

770
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 3>for op amps and digital potentiometers, so the one point

771
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.239
<v Speaker 3>zero module has an option for both. You can either

772
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:22.320
<v Speaker 3>use a multi turn potentiometer or digital potentiometer, one or

773
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.000
<v Speaker 3>the other. So if you can't find the digital ones,

774
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.199
<v Speaker 3>use the analog ones. If you can't find the analog ones,

775
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 3>use the digital ones. I have to say that I'm sorry,

776
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't have an alternative to talk about, because again,

777
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:42.400
<v Speaker 3>the parts were picked and engineered for specifically their use,

778
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 3>So swapping them out, you do it your own risk.

779
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Source them elsewhere. It might be a little bit more expensive.

780
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully another manufacturer will take on the new one point

781
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 3>zero version. For us such as Lilygo when they did

782
00:39:56.559 --> 00:40:01.320
<v Speaker 3>it with the zero point one module. But I don't.

783
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't have any information on whether or not they're

784
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:05.960
<v Speaker 3>going to So you know, I mean take it all

785
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.079
<v Speaker 3>with a grain of salt, you do you? I mean,

786
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.119
<v Speaker 3>it is an open source project. If you do find

787
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.360
<v Speaker 3>an alternative, you can go ahead and pull it. Put

788
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 3>a pull request in for the for the repository, and

789
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 3>we can add it in as an alternative if it works.

790
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<v Speaker 1>Good, Okay, good info. Uh ed A C three A

791
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>A C three, I K very very loyal follower, and

792
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>UH attends every live stream that I do. Why is

793
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>there a D after some of the call signs? He's

794
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:38.559
<v Speaker 1>just curious.

795
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 3>So D stands for Originally it originally stood for dongle

796
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 3>back when d star was starting to get those dongles,

797
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:56.840
<v Speaker 3>since it was Alpha Bravo Charlie for you know, the

798
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 3>different types of frequency that you could get onto a

799
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 3>p her and and link up with. Uh D was

800
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of used as a dongle user. So when you

801
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 3>had like, uh, the DV dongle or those those old

802
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 3>geez what the d V, I forget the name of it,

803
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 3>but the little red and blue DV dongle things that

804
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 3>you could plug into a computer. It had no Yeah,

805
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 3>it was.

806
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Like Northwest Digital had one.

807
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

808
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, So D kind of stood for dongle to

809
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 3>let you know that it was a dongle user. It

810
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 3>could also mean D for droid Star if somebody's using

811
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 3>droid star. Okay, but the suffix after the call sign,

812
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a purely vanity thing. Yeah, it actually has

813
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 3>one in his hand right there, Yeah, the old d

814
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:47.800
<v Speaker 3>star Yeah, dongle, Yeah, access point, DVAPP, DVAP.

815
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, DVAP yeah, put that up there in front of

816
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 1>the camera again, Ed, Yeah, there we go. Okay cool.

817
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so back then it used to mean dongle for

818
00:41:56.360 --> 00:42:02.440
<v Speaker 3>dongle user. It has a more color for term internally

819
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:09.280
<v Speaker 3>to the to the project, but it's not appropriate. But

820
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 3>needless to say, it's probably somebody not using r F.

821
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, somebody coming in through. Uh well, like Ed

822
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>did that? Uh where was that? Tapper or Ham said

823
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.639
<v Speaker 1>that you guys were at a couple years ago where

824
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>he was running the net through a through a computer

825
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>system through through that.

826
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Uh although the Raspberry Pie four.

827
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Right, the Pie four hundred. Yeah, yeah, because you didn't

828
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.679
<v Speaker 1>have r F at the time, so because it wouldn't available. Cool, okay, yeah,

829
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.559
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. M voice, M voice, that was it? Yeah,

830
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the voice yeah on on Rasby and or Linux whenever

831
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>it was Okay, good, okay, uh let's see I well

832
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 1>w X five o U says we have an M

833
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>seventeen repeater right across the street from the Green County

834
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.679
<v Speaker 1>ham Fest building. Which that's that might be fun. Greek

835
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 1>County Hamfest is the large hamfest in the state of Oklahoma.

836
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:07.639
<v Speaker 1>It happens in a little town called Claremore outside of Tulsa,

837
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and I believe it's in April. I've been to it

838
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:13.519
<v Speaker 1>a couple times. This is a good show. I didn't

839
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 1>make it this year, but prep Pam, Paul, thank you

840
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 1>for the gift of membership.

841
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.320
<v Speaker 2>So Jason, our friends down at Plahoma. There they run

842
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 2>a M seventeen net every Saturday afternoon. I think one pm.

843
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Your time, different than your net.

844
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have a Saturkay, okay, okay, lots of M

845
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 2>seventeen usage there in Oklahoma.

846
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Good. I wasn't aware there were any actual repeaters up yet,

847
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.599
<v Speaker 1>but apparently that's well. I mean, it makes sense now

848
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:46.679
<v Speaker 1>that ws WPSD supports it so easily. That makes sense

849
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that people are putting repeaters up. I guess I didn't

850
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 1>really think about that, but that's a good point.

851
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.880
<v Speaker 3>If you check repeater book, I think there's forty two

852
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 3>current M seventeen repeaters listed. Okay, most of them are

853
00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:58.760
<v Speaker 3>in Europe. There's a handful in the US.

854
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I am. I am in the process. And when I

855
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 1>say I'm in the process, what I actually mean is

856
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:05.599
<v Speaker 1>it's in the back of my mind. So I haven't

857
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>actually started anything yet of building a mobile ham shack.

858
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>And when I when I do this, I was going

859
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>through kind of a list of what I'm going to

860
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 1>put in when I got the idea from Bill k

861
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Zero WHW. He's a hand radio tectonics And I have

862
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 1>this bridge coom repeater that has a pie star on

863
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the back of it. And my my HB link server

864
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>failed on me, like I don't know, a couple three

865
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>months ago something like that. That's just the the software

866
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.079
<v Speaker 1>just kind of food barred in which it you know, okay, whatever,

867
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.840
<v Speaker 1>it just I needed to update it probably, but rather

868
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>than messing with that, because I didn't really get on

869
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that much anymore anyway, to connect it to h I

870
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was coul connected to DMR. I was thinking about making

871
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 1>an all Star repeater out of it, which I probably

872
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 1>will do. Actually, I'm going to put this in my

873
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>mobile hamshack. I got a hundred a hundred amp repeater

874
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>amplifier to it. Don't tell anybody, but uh yeah, so,

875
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.760
<v Speaker 1>but I'm I'm probably so, I'm probably gonna run a

876
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 1>mobile All Star repeater, but I could it could totally

877
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>be dual purpose and dual use and run M seventeen

878
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>as well, So it would be it would be fun

879
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to do that. I think it'd be really fun to

880
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:18.119
<v Speaker 1>do that.

881
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>So they steeve. The new Hampshire repeater is bridge Comm right.

882
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the one that I have here at the lab

883
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 3>is a bridge Comm. It was a DMR repeater. It's

884
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 3>now a multi mode repeater because if you buy a

885
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 3>bridge COMMB digital DMR repeater, it is WPSD that's installed

886
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:39.800
<v Speaker 3>on it, right, so you can run any digital mode

887
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.079
<v Speaker 3>on it. Correct, It's just out of the box that's

888
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:42.920
<v Speaker 3>set up for DMR.

889
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>It's actually an analog repeater with a with a yeah

890
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:48.840
<v Speaker 1>what used to be pie Star, but WPSD attached to that.

891
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:51.559
<v Speaker 1>It's got A. It's got a very easy port interface

892
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.280
<v Speaker 1>in the back, so it's easy to set up all

893
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Star analog on that repeater as well. Those repeaters are

894
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>very versatile. Yeah, so I wish mine was two twenty.

895
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Mine's four forty. I would like to I would like

896
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 1>to have a two twenty repeater instead, But I really

897
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a great repeater. I've had really good luck with mine.

898
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I just run mine at low power and it works great.

899
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, good, okay, okay, so that might be a

900
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 1>thing coming up. All right, So Alan asked a question

901
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>in the parts in parts list, can switches be individually

902
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>placed on file when removing? For HMI, then cannot select

903
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to have JLCPCB solder on, I don't understand what he's asking,

904
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 1>but maybe you do.

905
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:40.079
<v Speaker 3>I think he's asking if we can omit the switches

906
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 3>if you're using the HMI board. So there's two boards

907
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 3>on the Module seventeen version one point oh, it's classically

908
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 3>still the same that you would have for the version

909
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 3>zero point one. It still has the switches and a

910
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 3>place for the screen and everything like that. But when

911
00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:59.480
<v Speaker 3>you have the Module one point oh, you can also

912
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:04.119
<v Speaker 3>put another board on top of the board that exists

913
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.320
<v Speaker 3>for the r F side, well, I say the R

914
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:11.679
<v Speaker 3>side the BASEBAN side. It's basically just got a slightly

915
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:15.360
<v Speaker 3>larger screen and a capacitive touchpad instead of the switches,

916
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:18.639
<v Speaker 3>so you have the option of running it either with

917
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:24.519
<v Speaker 3>or without the HMI board, and if you order the board.

918
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 3>I think by default the switches do come installed and

919
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 3>soldered on, but if you tell JLCPCB to admit them,

920
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 3>they should be able to. There is no real reason

921
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 3>to have those switches on there if you're going to

922
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 3>use the HMI board, But if you're not, then obviously

923
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:44.800
<v Speaker 3>having the switches on would would help out, you know,

924
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 3>because you would need some sort of input interface. Anyway.

925
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you can tell JLCPCB to directly

926
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.239
<v Speaker 3>take them off the bomb or if they come back

927
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 3>at you when you tell them to omit them, then

928
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 3>just tell them. Look, I don't need those switches. I

929
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 3>can saw them on myself if I have them. They're

930
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:05.639
<v Speaker 3>just tactile button switches, They're nothing special. Those parts could

931
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 3>probably be swapped out if you need to. If you

932
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 3>don't need them, then I think they can be omitted.

933
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.159
<v Speaker 3>I just haven't done that personally through JLCPCB. I just

934
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.920
<v Speaker 3>had them ordered and made as they were out of

935
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.760
<v Speaker 3>the out of the bomb bomb as in bill of materials, not.

936
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Like it's the bomb. Uh okay, okay, WX five ou Oklahoma,

937
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>M seventeen net is on Saturdays twelve noon, which that's

938
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.599
<v Speaker 1>going to be Central time, so UTC minus five currently

939
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 1>until the time changes again on M seventeen dash oko alpha.

940
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes. So I've been on it a couple of times. Okay,

941
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 3>great set of people out there.

942
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I will I will put that on my Google calendar

943
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>so I'll remember it and that'll be a fun thing

944
00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to check into now that I can. So yeah, yeah,

945
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>good deal. Okay. I mean, I you know, I I've

946
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 1>used invoice a couple of times. But I just like

947
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>this is ham Radio. I like the idea of having

948
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.840
<v Speaker 1>an RF access to something because I love I love

949
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 1>it when I it's a love hate thing. I love

950
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.800
<v Speaker 1>it when I get the comments on any of my

951
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>videos that talk about how DMR is not real because

952
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 1>it requires Internet. No it doesn't, uh yasus its confusion, Well,

953
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.760
<v Speaker 1>it requires how how are you guys? How are you digital?

954
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Guy who's going to communicate when emergency hurricane comes through?

955
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm like through simplex the way you do with any

956
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 1>other freaking radio in the world. So people don't get that,

957
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's okay, that's part. But I mean, I feel

958
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>like I've said it till I'm blue in the face,

959
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.079
<v Speaker 1>and I am. I'm happy for people to ask questions,

960
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>but when you come by and make accusations while having

961
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 1>your head up your ass, that's a different thing than

962
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>than asking a question. So that's that's my personal opinion.

963
00:49:53.360 --> 00:50:01.800
<v Speaker 1>May you might Yeah, yeah, Sada is a so uh now,

964
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 1>this is a good question. So Life and Death that's

965
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.119
<v Speaker 1>his YouTube name. He's been on the in the chat

966
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot as well. Life in This is a good question, Okay,

967
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>queue me in. With so many digital modes, is M

968
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>seventeen better sound quality? Is it higher compression? What does

969
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:20.679
<v Speaker 1>M seventeen do to justify another digital mode? I have

970
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 1>my own opinion about that question. Yeah, oh, I thought

971
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you might. I thought you might, So you go right ahead, Steve,

972
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

973
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.159
<v Speaker 3>So a lot of people will ask this based on

974
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, why why should we use M seventeen? Is

975
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.360
<v Speaker 3>it better quality audio? That's subjective to me.

976
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I just listened to it for about a minute and

977
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a half, and I think that it is to me

978
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>sore more testing is required.

979
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:48.440
<v Speaker 3>I personally find the code of the voice codec to

980
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 3>be easier to understand. With D star you get a

981
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:55.960
<v Speaker 3>lot of what they call that R two D two.

982
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 3>When you get on the fringes of you know, the

983
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.800
<v Speaker 3>frequency or the I'm sorry, the edge of the repeater

984
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:03.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of thing, it kind of falls off. You get

985
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 3>R two D two DMR. If you've ever listened to

986
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:11.519
<v Speaker 3>Public safety on DMR through a scanner or anything like that,

987
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:14.480
<v Speaker 3>it is damn near impossible to understand half the things

988
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.960
<v Speaker 3>that they're saying because either they're whispering into the mic

989
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 3>or they're got the micro or whatever. I mean, yeah, sure,

990
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.239
<v Speaker 3>that's probably operating etiquette that's causing those problems. But the

991
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:32.239
<v Speaker 3>voice codec is not really to my ear, it doesn't

992
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:36.280
<v Speaker 3>sound good. CODEC two has a bit more fidelity as

993
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:40.119
<v Speaker 3>far as you know, Voice check likes to use the

994
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:44.320
<v Speaker 3>word sibilance, so those sounds and everything like that they

995
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:48.000
<v Speaker 3>come out a little bit clearer. So as far as

996
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.480
<v Speaker 3>the voice codec is concerned, it is subjective. Personally, I

997
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 3>find it a whole lot better. But the reason, the

998
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:58.280
<v Speaker 3>real reason that M seventeen exists is because It is

999
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:04.320
<v Speaker 3>an amateur radio digital mode created by amateur radio for

1000
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 3>amateur radio. It is not a commercial entity creating a

1001
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.719
<v Speaker 3>digital mode. It is not a commercial digital mode that's

1002
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:14.719
<v Speaker 3>being shoehorned into MS to amateur radio. M seventeen is

1003
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:18.440
<v Speaker 3>completely open source and it is designed for amateur radio,

1004
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.400
<v Speaker 3>and it's designed for people to hack and modify and

1005
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 3>make better rather than wait for some commercial entity to

1006
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:29.239
<v Speaker 3>put in the features that you want or be laid

1007
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 3>into a commercial protocol that is not designed for amateur radio.

1008
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.480
<v Speaker 3>DMR was never designed for amateur radio. It was designed

1009
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:41.719
<v Speaker 3>as a commercial radio public safety radio by the European

1010
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:49.599
<v Speaker 3>Telecommunications at C. At the was designed, you know, it

1011
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.760
<v Speaker 3>was an APCO protocol that was developed for public safety.

1012
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:58.960
<v Speaker 3>NXDN was commercial radio protocol. M seventeen is a radio

1013
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.840
<v Speaker 3>protocol that is design buy and for amateur radio, open source,

1014
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.800
<v Speaker 3>to be hacked, to be modified, to be made better

1015
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 3>by people in amateur radio. People will argue that system

1016
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 3>fusion is an amateur radio protocol. It isn't. It's C

1017
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.239
<v Speaker 3>four FM. It's P twenty five. It has just been

1018
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:20.599
<v Speaker 3>modified for use in amateur radio, and it is designed

1019
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:24.280
<v Speaker 3>and developed by Yasu. You are locked into Yasu by

1020
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:26.760
<v Speaker 3>buying you know, to use that protocol, you have to

1021
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.039
<v Speaker 3>buy a Yasu radio. You have to buy a Yasu

1022
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:32.119
<v Speaker 3>repeater in order for it to be effective. M seventeen.

1023
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 3>You could build this radio protocol into any radio that

1024
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 3>will accept it, or even design your own radio to

1025
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.480
<v Speaker 3>use the M seventeen protocol. This is why we have

1026
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.639
<v Speaker 3>a commercial radio that has M seventeen built into it.

1027
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:47.119
<v Speaker 3>Because a commercial radio manufacturer was saying, hey, we need

1028
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:50.360
<v Speaker 3>a new protocol, we need something new. They built M

1029
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.280
<v Speaker 3>seventeen in there. There's no licensing that's required other than

1030
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 3>the open source licensing. There is no cost to somebody

1031
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:00.480
<v Speaker 3>building in our protocol into their equipment. So that's the

1032
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 3>most attractive part, the most attractive part for people that

1033
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:09.320
<v Speaker 3>want to sell something without having to buy a license

1034
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:14.599
<v Speaker 3>with DMR, with fusion, with well probably not d star anymore,

1035
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:17.760
<v Speaker 3>but with NXDN and P twenty five Tier two you

1036
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:20.480
<v Speaker 3>have to buy a license from DVSI in order to

1037
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 3>use their voice codec. People will say, oh, well, patent's expiring. Well,

1038
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:27.000
<v Speaker 3>the patent hasn't expired, as a matter of fact, has

1039
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.400
<v Speaker 3>been extended until November.

1040
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Six.

1041
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:33.039
<v Speaker 1>I think something like that and the newest d Star

1042
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:36.159
<v Speaker 1>radios are using MB three thousand, right, the D seventy

1043
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:38.079
<v Speaker 1>five is using AMB three thousand, so.

1044
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 3>But it's still using the old imb ambras plus that's

1045
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:45.920
<v Speaker 3>why it doesn't That wasn't That's why it doesn't sound

1046
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 3>as good.

1047
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>But yes, yeah, you're right. And that was a d

1048
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.039
<v Speaker 1>DVSI product as well.

1049
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:50.519
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

1050
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 1>So everything every every digital voice mode we have seen

1051
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 1>so far, except for maybe NXD in I'm not one

1052
00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent certain on NXD.

1053
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Know they use MB two plus, okay, plus.

1054
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:04.559
<v Speaker 1>So it's all been dvs I licensed, which is a

1055
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>commercial company and licensing structure. So yeah, okay.

1056
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.519
<v Speaker 3>And and even though people are saying, you know, the

1057
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:15.079
<v Speaker 3>patent's gonna expire, that doesn't mean the copyright expires. The

1058
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:18.559
<v Speaker 3>copyright still exists on the code for dvs i's voice codec.

1059
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:21.639
<v Speaker 3>Unless somebody writes an open source version of that voice

1060
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.639
<v Speaker 3>codec after the patent expires, you're still latent to the

1061
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:28.159
<v Speaker 3>copyright by dvs I, and they can sell that however

1062
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 3>they want. So yeah, it's it's the The thing that

1063
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:35.639
<v Speaker 3>I like to drive home so much is that M

1064
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.440
<v Speaker 3>seventeen is open source. It is buy hams four hams

1065
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:46.519
<v Speaker 3>b HF FH. Remember then this is but but Ham

1066
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Ham Radio by Ham radio only Ham's what anyway? So yeah,

1067
00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:58.480
<v Speaker 3>it's uh, it's definitely an amateur radio protocol designed by

1068
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:02.360
<v Speaker 3>amateur radio. And then that's the driving force behind us,

1069
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:04.079
<v Speaker 3>is that we want to make sure that everything is

1070
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:12.039
<v Speaker 3>still bringing that idea of build it yourself and do

1071
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 3>it yourself that amateur radio was based on. You know,

1072
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:17.960
<v Speaker 3>back in the fifties and sixties when amateur radio was

1073
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:21.199
<v Speaker 3>getting sadded, everybody was building their own radios. You'd go

1074
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 3>out by a helicrafters you know, can't build it get

1075
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 3>on the air, or you build your own radio out

1076
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 3>of tubes and wire. You know, we're bringing that back

1077
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:33.559
<v Speaker 3>when we don't want to be burdened by having to

1078
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:38.159
<v Speaker 3>purchase a radio that's made commercially with a commercial protocol

1079
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:39.719
<v Speaker 3>in it. You know, we want to be able to

1080
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:42.599
<v Speaker 3>have a open source radio with an open source protocol

1081
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.119
<v Speaker 3>so that an amateur radio can take it apart and

1082
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, an amateur radio operator can take it apart, modify,

1083
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 3>put it back together, and be on the merry way

1084
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 3>with whatever they want. So I'm very passionate about this

1085
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 3>if you can tell.

1086
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:59.119
<v Speaker 1>No, that's a terrific answer. I love everything you said

1087
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:03.000
<v Speaker 1>about that answer. John Nelson in the chats asking what

1088
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>commercial radio exists, I assume you just joined it, so welcome,

1089
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining the live stream. This is a

1090
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>connect system's CS seven thousand, so it's made by a

1091
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>commercial company and commercially for sale for a four by

1092
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:19.239
<v Speaker 1>a for profit company. But it contains the M seventeen protocol.

1093
00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:22.519
<v Speaker 1>In fact, when before the live stream started, Steve was

1094
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>asking me if I had flashed the M seventeen firmware.

1095
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And because I just got this radio like four days ago.

1096
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:28.920
<v Speaker 1>As soon as I got this radio and the mail,

1097
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I hit up Ed and Steve and Discord. There's an

1098
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:35.320
<v Speaker 1>M seventeen discord. If you guys want to learn more

1099
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:36.719
<v Speaker 1>about that, we can share that link here in just

1100
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a minute. But I hit them up in Discord. I'm like,

1101
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, I need you guys to come on to

1102
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.719
<v Speaker 1>the stream whenever you're available, and we're going to talk

1103
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>about this radio and work it through the hot spot.

1104
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:49.400
<v Speaker 1>But this is a radio that I purchased that has

1105
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 1>the M seventeen protocol in it, and it had the

1106
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:56.000
<v Speaker 1>firmware flashed to it already when I got it, because

1107
00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Steve said, he goes, oh, it's probably flashed with DMR

1108
00:57:58.639 --> 00:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and I turned around. He goes, nope, you've got to

1109
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.079
<v Speaker 1>seventeen right there. I didn't have to do anything. So

1110
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:04.599
<v Speaker 1>I opened it out, opened it the box. Charge it

1111
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit, the batteries a little bit low.

1112
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I charge it, turned it on program on hotspot and

1113
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>we were on the air just a few minutes ago.

1114
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 1>So it's very uh.

1115
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:15.639
<v Speaker 5>In fact, there's okay, Seth, thank you very much.

1116
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:17.760
<v Speaker 4>That's work, and I've received your transformation.

1117
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>That first guy had a terrible signal, but that last

1118
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.719
<v Speaker 1>guy had sounded pretty good. So I think I've only

1119
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 1>been listening into Oh there's ed AC three ik right there.

1120
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I've only been listening to it for the last forty

1121
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>minutes thirty minutes that we've been doing this, and I

1122
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.880
<v Speaker 1>can already tell you it sounds fantastic. So I'm gonna

1123
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.960
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of listen to it over the next

1124
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:42.559
<v Speaker 1>few days and kind of monitor some stuff. I'm interested

1125
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:44.519
<v Speaker 1>to see what kind of activity is on there. So yeah,

1126
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:46.480
<v Speaker 1>but think you no, John, thank you for joining us.

1127
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Good question though. So I have a personal pet Peeve,

1128
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I agree with everything you said. You just said, Steve,

1129
00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I can totally agree with that, Okay. I just I

1130
00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:00.760
<v Speaker 1>used to get frustrated with people when they said they

1131
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:03.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't like DMR because it wasn't made for amateur radio.

1132
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, Jesus system, Fusion was made for amature radio.

1133
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Dstar was made for amateur radio. I'm like, well, I

1134
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>really really really hope you're not a CW operator because

1135
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>CW and Morse Code were not made for amateur radio.

1136
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>In fact, neither was FM and AM originally, so it

1137
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:20.559
<v Speaker 1>just kind of it kind of irks me. I was like,

1138
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, if if that's your only reason,

1139
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:28.440
<v Speaker 1>then seriously, really you're just gonna use fusion and get

1140
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>up all your CWNHF stuff because it wasn't made for

1141
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:34.800
<v Speaker 1>amateur radio. So I don't know, it's just something something

1142
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:36.639
<v Speaker 1>I thought of, but no, I liked it, and.

1143
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 3>I understand that it's just you know, the the but

1144
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:43.880
<v Speaker 3>back when CW was in its heyday, that was the

1145
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.400
<v Speaker 3>only way of communicating, you know, I didn't have FM

1146
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:50.679
<v Speaker 3>and AM. I mean, essentially with CW it is kind

1147
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:55.559
<v Speaker 3>of AM but you know, yeah, but you know, until

1148
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:57.960
<v Speaker 3>those really came out. You know, CW was the only

1149
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:01.679
<v Speaker 3>method of communication, and you know it did to be

1150
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:06.840
<v Speaker 3>to be honest, Yeah, Morse code or or CW was

1151
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 3>originally a commercial thing.

1152
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:12.119
<v Speaker 5>It was, was it?

1153
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Uh, Western Union kind of base basically made it like

1154
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 3>the thing, right, you know, but you know it was

1155
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:21.199
<v Speaker 3>adopted by amateur radio. Sure, but.

1156
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I used to tell people that, Ye,

1157
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:27.679
<v Speaker 1>DMR was made for a commercial world. Hams took it

1158
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:30.639
<v Speaker 1>and made it better because we used to have that

1159
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:35.719
<v Speaker 1>worldwide net. And DMR was never meant to work across

1160
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the pond, across the ocean, as a as a North America.

1161
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:41.639
<v Speaker 1>It was made for a county or a city to

1162
01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>use in a local area for a local radio comms.

1163
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:49.159
<v Speaker 1>And it's great because DMR is dual time slot, so

1164
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you can use you can use two voices, two voice

1165
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:56.440
<v Speaker 1>transmissions on the same channel at the same time, same frequency,

1166
01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the same time. They don't crash into one another. Fusion

1167
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:03.239
<v Speaker 1>does that too, except Fusion uses half of its time

1168
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:07.440
<v Speaker 1>slot to send GPS data, so you're on a six

1169
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:11.840
<v Speaker 1>point twenty five voice channel while GPS data is transmitting

1170
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.280
<v Speaker 1>on the other six point twenty five data channel. To

1171
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 1>make up the twelve point five total narrow band channel,

1172
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.719
<v Speaker 1>or you can switch it to VW for voice wide

1173
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:24.039
<v Speaker 1>on Fusion, which takes up the whole twelve and a

1174
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:27.480
<v Speaker 1>half narrow band channel. But I mean, so it kind

1175
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of does the same thing.

1176
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean M seventeen does it even better?

1177
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, explain how that because I don't know how does

1178
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that work?

1179
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Tell me M seventeen is a nine killer Hurts wide channel.

1180
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:43.159
<v Speaker 3>It's a M seventeen is FDM, a frequency division multiple access.

1181
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.440
<v Speaker 3>It uses a nine kill Hurts wide channel, but the

1182
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:53.159
<v Speaker 3>data is sent in tandem in the frames that are

1183
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.400
<v Speaker 3>going over over our f so we don't need to

1184
01:01:56.039 --> 01:02:00.519
<v Speaker 3>split the voice in data like Fusion where they have

1185
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:02.159
<v Speaker 3>six and a half or six on a quarter and

1186
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:02.760
<v Speaker 3>six and a quarter.

1187
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:03.239
<v Speaker 5>Right.

1188
01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:06.119
<v Speaker 3>M seventeen uses the whole nine killer Hurts wide channel

1189
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:11.079
<v Speaker 3>for both the voice and streaming digital data. So in

1190
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:13.400
<v Speaker 3>the in the packets, in the frames that are going

1191
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:18.280
<v Speaker 3>over RF is actual metadata included, so the voice codec

1192
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:20.199
<v Speaker 3>that so we have a we have a forty eight

1193
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:24.679
<v Speaker 3>hundred bit per second transfer rate over the air. Thirty

1194
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.400
<v Speaker 3>two hundred of that is for voice. It is the

1195
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:32.480
<v Speaker 3>codec to thirty two hundred bps voice mode. The extra

1196
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:35.079
<v Speaker 3>what is it sixteen hundred bits? Yeah? I think it's

1197
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 3>sixteen hundred bits is used for metadata, so things like encryption, GPS, positioning,

1198
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:46.039
<v Speaker 3>slow text data like Dstar has slow text data.

1199
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:46.239
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1200
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.159
<v Speaker 3>M seventeen can do slow text data. Any sort of

1201
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:51.920
<v Speaker 3>metadata that you want to add in on top of

1202
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:56.119
<v Speaker 3>that voice stream is possible with not having to increase

1203
01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:59.400
<v Speaker 3>the bandwidth of the of the channel or separate out

1204
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:03.360
<v Speaker 3>specific parts of the channel four you know, the voice

1205
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:04.679
<v Speaker 3>in voice stream and data stream.

1206
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:08.119
<v Speaker 1>So is the total channel only nine Killer Hurts instead

1207
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:08.840
<v Speaker 1>of twelve point five?

1208
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:11.679
<v Speaker 3>Then yes, it is under it is. It is still

1209
01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:14.480
<v Speaker 3>considered a twelve and a half channel because there is

1210
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:19.880
<v Speaker 3>no nine Killer Hurts wide you know, uh channel split? Yeah, okay,

1211
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.880
<v Speaker 3>just like there isn't a six point twenty five for

1212
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:26.760
<v Speaker 3>amateur radio. Can still use twenty five Killer Hurts or

1213
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four Killer Hurts. Yes, we can still use

1214
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:34.440
<v Speaker 3>voice wide channels. But M seventeen has the ability or

1215
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.760
<v Speaker 3>M seven it's not the ability. M seventeen is nine

1216
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:39.599
<v Speaker 3>Killer Hurts wide, so it'll fit into a twelve and

1217
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:44.239
<v Speaker 3>a half channel. There was an idea of being able

1218
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:49.280
<v Speaker 3>to use the extra sideband or or the extra frequency

1219
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:51.119
<v Speaker 3>space that we have on a twelve and a half

1220
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Killer Hurts channel to also transmit analog. So a repeater

1221
01:03:56.519 --> 01:04:00.599
<v Speaker 3>would be able to transmit a simultaneous M seventeen data

1222
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:05.719
<v Speaker 3>as well as analog voice on the same channel, and

1223
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:10.480
<v Speaker 3>have it so that a radio that is properly configured

1224
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:13.159
<v Speaker 3>for this to be able to receive an analog channel

1225
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:18.000
<v Speaker 3>even though somebody might be transmitting IAIN seventeen. It's kind

1226
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:21.480
<v Speaker 3>of weird physics, and it's a little bit more science

1227
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:23.280
<v Speaker 3>than I know off the top of my head, but

1228
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:26.679
<v Speaker 3>the idea is there, Okay, So we have we have

1229
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:28.599
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of extra bandwidth that we can kind

1230
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:31.559
<v Speaker 3>of squeeze some stuff into if we wanted to, because

1231
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:33.480
<v Speaker 3>we know that it's going to be that nine Killer

1232
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Hurts wide the two point four plus minus deviation on

1233
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.559
<v Speaker 3>either side of the center, so we still have some

1234
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:42.599
<v Speaker 3>bandwidth on the on the edges, kind of like if

1235
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:46.559
<v Speaker 3>you've seen like the HDU radio signals that FM broadcasters have.

1236
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.199
<v Speaker 3>If you look at like the center channel frequency, you'll

1237
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:51.920
<v Speaker 3>see the FM obviously, but I either side you've got

1238
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 3>the digital data for AT radio on that same channel.

1239
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:57.159
<v Speaker 3>So it's two hundred and fifty color, it's wide, but

1240
01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.480
<v Speaker 3>you have those side bands that are on the same

1241
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:01.840
<v Speaker 3>channel that I was doing the HD radio. I was

1242
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of reversing that, so the digital data would be

1243
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:06.920
<v Speaker 3>in the center and the FM yeah on the sides. Yeah.

1244
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Kind of an interesting thing to think about, but I

1245
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:11.480
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it would be physically possible yet.

1246
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:14.679
<v Speaker 1>I I would like we were We were at the

1247
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:18.880
<v Speaker 1>park yesterday, as I mentioned earlier, and uh, twenty meters

1248
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:22.280
<v Speaker 1>was just chalk full of people between supports parks weekend,

1249
01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:25.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out at parks. Jamboree on the

1250
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:28.880
<v Speaker 1>air was yesterday, and apparently the New York QUSA party

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01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:30.880
<v Speaker 1>was also yesterday, which I didn't know. I just was

1252
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:33.239
<v Speaker 1>tuning around and a lot of people were calling CQQ

1253
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:36.159
<v Speaker 1>soo party. Well, there was a couple of people on

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01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:39.360
<v Speaker 1>fourteen dot two thirty and they were even covered up

1255
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:41.480
<v Speaker 1>by They're like, yeah, there's some digital noise. I'm like, dude,

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01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the slow scan TV station. So we to put

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01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:46.079
<v Speaker 1>our phones on top of my radio just kind of

1258
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:47.800
<v Speaker 1>listened to. We were getting all kinds of really cool

1259
01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:50.599
<v Speaker 1>pictures coming. So so you're sitting there talking about an

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01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:53.079
<v Speaker 1>extra like three Killer's and I'm like, do some slow

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01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:58.119
<v Speaker 1>scan TV over that. That's not bad, you know, so

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01:05:58.239 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of it was some kind of like low reds

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01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.679
<v Speaker 1>midget transmission while you're while you're uh, while you keet

1264
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:04.920
<v Speaker 1>up on the frequency. It'd be kind of fun. So

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01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:09.320
<v Speaker 1>memes over HD, right, Yeah, well that's all slow scan

1266
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:12.280
<v Speaker 1>TV is anymore. It's just memes over the air, that's

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01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:12.679
<v Speaker 1>all it is.

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01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:13.960
<v Speaker 3>It's because of Josh.

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01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh he has it. Yeah, yeah, he has a big

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01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:21.280
<v Speaker 1>can in that. So yeah, I'm just uh, it's crazy.

1271
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there was some cool stuff coming over slow

1272
01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:24.320
<v Speaker 1>scan TV yesterday.

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01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to the Ham Radio Village guys too, they

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01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 2>do a lot of slow scan TV over there, or

1275
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:31.320
<v Speaker 2>deaf Con group.

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01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Of the deaf Con group. Yeah, those guys are sure. Okay, sweet.

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01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Qualm uh don If you hold your horses for a bit,

1278
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:46.519
<v Speaker 3>you might see something. We we were talking about using

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01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:49.960
<v Speaker 3>M seventeen over satellite. We have been able to get

1280
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:54.960
<v Speaker 3>M seventeen through Ecostar twelve. I think it is, you know,

1281
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:57.239
<v Speaker 3>basically bent pipe. So you're just sitting there, you know,

1282
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:00.960
<v Speaker 3>transmitting and then hearing what's going on through the satellite

1283
01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:04.880
<v Speaker 3>and all the tests went well. They went very very well.

1284
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:09.639
<v Speaker 3>So we were kind of thinking about was doing RF

1285
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:13.760
<v Speaker 3>trunking for repeaters, so repeaters could have multiple channels trunked

1286
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:18.559
<v Speaker 3>up to a satellite using quadratary amplitude or something similar,

1287
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:21.920
<v Speaker 3>whether it be two fifty six qualm or you know

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01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:24.760
<v Speaker 3>whatever else. I mean, we're starting to get into the

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01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:28.679
<v Speaker 3>whole you know, realm of cable TV when we're talking

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01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:32.519
<v Speaker 3>about you know, exotic modes like that. But yeah, something

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01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:34.480
<v Speaker 3>like that might might come into the future.

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01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:41.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, I lost it. Where did the question go?

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01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:42.679
<v Speaker 3>No, I lost it a long time ago.

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01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well I never had it. So somebody was

1295
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:52.360
<v Speaker 1>asking about setting up Gosh, I just saw your question

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01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and I looked it up, and I looked back at

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01:07:54.000 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 1>this corner. Okay, K six A the hillbilly Ham. It's

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01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.039
<v Speaker 1>a great name, by the way, like it. What ref

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01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:07.440
<v Speaker 1>reference would I connect to using my yazy radio for

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01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:09.719
<v Speaker 1>M seventeen is? I don't have him seventeen right now.

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01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:13.079
<v Speaker 1>So this is what you want, and I need to

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01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:14.840
<v Speaker 1>get and I've got one of these. I've got one

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01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:16.720
<v Speaker 1>of these in my possession and I need to get

1304
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:19.279
<v Speaker 1>ed and ed and steve back on the show, so

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01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:21.159
<v Speaker 1>we can connect it and uh and just kind of

1306
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:23.119
<v Speaker 1>tinker around with it. This connects to the back of

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01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:27.199
<v Speaker 1>your jesoo FtM six thousand. And does it do any

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01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:28.359
<v Speaker 1>other radios besides that.

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01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Anything that's ninety six hundred BOD capable connect? Yeah?

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01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:38.680
<v Speaker 1>So the Alinko radios. No, No, not the Alnko radios.

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01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Unless you actually do the modification for it, because it

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01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:44.439
<v Speaker 3>is capable of those. A Linko radios are capable of

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01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:47.680
<v Speaker 3>ninety six hundred BOD, But it's that that funky g

1314
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:52.359
<v Speaker 3>r G five r UX or whatever. Okay, you know,

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01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:59.079
<v Speaker 3>funky ninety six hundred BOD like mode. The most important

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01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:01.600
<v Speaker 3>thing to know about M seventeen is that it requires

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01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 3>a completely flat audio response on a radio. So basically

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01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 3>that means discriminatory tap and direct base band input. And

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01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:14.119
<v Speaker 3>the radios that we have been successful with have been

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01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:17.239
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the ASU radios, a few of the

1321
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Kenwood radios have been tested, all of the Motorola like

1322
01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:25.840
<v Speaker 3>CDM radios, the old WIREUS radios, those those are are

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01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:27.439
<v Speaker 3>wonderful for it.

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01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:30.840
<v Speaker 1>What about the ninety.

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01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:36.760
<v Speaker 2>The icon No, so I love to have the flat

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01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:38.520
<v Speaker 2>audio coming out of the back of the radio.

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01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, I may or may not have just

1328
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:43.720
<v Speaker 1>acquired at ninety seven hundred that I haven't opened yet.

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01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:47.760
<v Speaker 1>So if you test it, test it, yeah, yeah, I

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01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:50.000
<v Speaker 1>mean I might. I might. I might kind of, you know,

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01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:52.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of see what's going on with it. But yeah,

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01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I mean, I don't know. I don't even

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01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:58.399
<v Speaker 1>know if I assume that radio has a in the

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01:09:58.439 --> 01:09:58.760
<v Speaker 1>back of it.

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01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a data port coming out of

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01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:01.279
<v Speaker 2>the icons.

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01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Is they're not? Okay, there might not be. So, I

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01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:05.319
<v Speaker 1>mean all those a Linko Mono bands have it. That's

1339
01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:07.720
<v Speaker 1>why those are excellent radios for all Star because you

1340
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:10.800
<v Speaker 1>get a repeater builder rim Alinko device and plug it

1341
01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:12.960
<v Speaker 1>right in, plug it into a Raspberry Pine you're done.

1342
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:15.840
<v Speaker 1>And those are fantastic systems. I have one sitting right there.

1343
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.239
<v Speaker 2>But so I think it's like the yellow wire mod

1344
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:21.039
<v Speaker 2>or something like that that needs to get done for

1345
01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:25.359
<v Speaker 2>the Linko radios. Okay, okay, okay, to get them working

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01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:26.640
<v Speaker 2>with the flat audio.

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01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean I got two of them here, I

1348
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:31.319
<v Speaker 3>could I could tear them a pat and figure it

1349
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:32.840
<v Speaker 3>out a pot a.

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01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Pot and uh and yeah, I mean I don't. I

1351
01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:39.800
<v Speaker 1>mean you said anything with the with the port in

1352
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the back. And the most popular one I think is

1353
01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the a Linko Because they're mono bands, so they're less

1354
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.880
<v Speaker 1>expensive and they're multi band, you can get.

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01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Pretty affordable.

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01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:53.319
<v Speaker 1>That is true. That is true. That's a newer radio.

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01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a newer radio. But that yes, f TM six thousand.

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01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I keep that. I keep that in a little man

1359
01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.520
<v Speaker 1>pack and with my ed pong roll up J pole and.

1360
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:03.760
<v Speaker 2>That you need.

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01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's it right there. So that's that's your So

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01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I take I take the uh yeah, I take that

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01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that little man pack radio with me every time I

1364
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:15.239
<v Speaker 1>go to a show and I set it up at

1365
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the ham fest at my campsite or wherever. And it's

1366
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:21.279
<v Speaker 1>fifty watts in into into a net phong roll up

1367
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:23.520
<v Speaker 1>J pole that I put up with like ten or

1368
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:26.039
<v Speaker 1>fifteen feet. It's a hell of a better than an HT.

1369
01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So I love that. I love that radio for what

1370
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:32.119
<v Speaker 1>it is. But and I've been meaning to put that

1371
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:35.279
<v Speaker 1>freaking that. In fact, I forgot I had that thing

1372
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:38.119
<v Speaker 1>until I got this radio. And I hit you guys

1373
01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:39.840
<v Speaker 1>up at Discord the other day and I'm like, wait

1374
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.479
<v Speaker 1>a minute, I've got that m seventeen monde six down.

1375
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I never did anything with it, so, uh, that's just

1376
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:47.439
<v Speaker 1>another thing on the list that I need to need

1377
01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to do. But yeah, that's good. Okay. Uh, you guys

1378
01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:54.840
<v Speaker 1>share a link to your discord if you don't mind,

1379
01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:57.600
<v Speaker 1>send it to me in zoom and I'll put it.

1380
01:11:58.000 --> 01:11:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I'll put it in the chat here. So if you

1381
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:02.800
<v Speaker 1>guys are in A seventeen and you're not on the

1382
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:05.680
<v Speaker 1>M seventeen discord, I'm on the M seventeen discord. I

1383
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:07.159
<v Speaker 1>don't get on there a whole lot, but I was

1384
01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:10.039
<v Speaker 1>on there talking to these guys about a week ago,

1385
01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:12.279
<v Speaker 1>talking about when I got that email from Connect Systems

1386
01:12:12.279 --> 01:12:14.479
<v Speaker 1>and I said I ordered the Plus and they're like,

1387
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:16.119
<v Speaker 1>you don't don't want we Plus.

1388
01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:17.359
<v Speaker 3>We jumped on that.

1389
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's like you don't you don't want the

1390
01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Plus because the firmware is not ready yet. And I'm like, well,

1391
01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really say that, so it's a little ambiguous. Yeah,

1392
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:32.760
<v Speaker 1>but you know what Jerry says, yeah, right right, you know,

1393
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:34.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not your fault. It's not.

1394
01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:37.039
<v Speaker 3>He's definitely staying on top of things when it comes

1395
01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:40.760
<v Speaker 3>to making sure that things are getting you know, sent out.

1396
01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know what, he's the first guy to

1397
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:47.199
<v Speaker 1>actually have an RF capable, commercially available M seventeen radio,

1398
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:50.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not dogging him at all. So he's he's

1399
01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:53.359
<v Speaker 1>in fact the CS seven thousand years ago. If you've

1400
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:56.520
<v Speaker 1>been following Connect Systems for a while, the c S

1401
01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:59.000
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand was supposed to be a multi mode dmr

1402
01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:02.920
<v Speaker 1>D Star Confusion P twenty five radio, like seven eight

1403
01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:05.520
<v Speaker 1>nine years ago, and then he scrapped that project for

1404
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:08.840
<v Speaker 1>because he figured out that it was hard to do.

1405
01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I jacked up my hold on, I jacked up my

1406
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:14.399
<v Speaker 1>zoom here at there we go. And now he's calling

1407
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.560
<v Speaker 1>it the c S seven seventeen, and I think it's great.

1408
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's great that he has an actual radio

1409
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that will do M seventeen over RF. So I'm glad

1410
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I bought this. Like I said a minute ago, it's

1411
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:27.439
<v Speaker 1>a sturdy radio. It feels nice. I thought it was

1412
01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:31.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna look like a TYT MD twenty seventeen or m

1413
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:34.239
<v Speaker 1>D three ninety. It doesn't look like that at all.

1414
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:36.760
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's a great it's a great feeling radio.

1415
01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:40.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a very well built I think, and

1416
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll see how how will it works. I'm gonna put

1417
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it on.

1418
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:45.079
<v Speaker 3>The h for a BNC.

1419
01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:49.279
<v Speaker 1>That's a good idea. Yeah. Well, and this this longer intent,

1420
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:51.479
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably put like a stubby intent on mine, like

1421
01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:53.840
<v Speaker 1>one of those squatty intent because I'm just using it

1422
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to talking to the hot spot which is right there.

1423
01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't need a high high range antenna on that,

1424
01:13:58.399 --> 01:13:59.880
<v Speaker 1>so this is a little bit better to do that.

1425
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:03.079
<v Speaker 1>But I put links to this hot spot that has

1426
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:07.560
<v Speaker 1>WPSD with M seventeen factory installed, and this radio. I'll

1427
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:10.039
<v Speaker 1>put links to both those in the description of this video,

1428
01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So you guys go back and check the description of

1429
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:14.359
<v Speaker 1>the video. There's links to both of those there. I

1430
01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:17.000
<v Speaker 1>don't get anything for this radio. I don't have it's

1431
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:18.800
<v Speaker 1>not an affiliate link or anything like that. In fact,

1432
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Jerry didn't even know I was doing this live stream. Hopefully,

1433
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you guys, I'll go bombard his website tomorrow and tell

1434
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:25.600
<v Speaker 1>him that ham Radio two point zero cent you just

1435
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:28.079
<v Speaker 1>just because just because I like to do that. But

1436
01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't get anything for that. There's no affiliate commission

1437
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:31.079
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that at all.

1438
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:34.920
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you get complaints when his website gets you.

1439
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, good, all right?

1440
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Any other questions from the chat.

1441
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Questions that we can answer.

1442
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, Steve. You've gone over my head

1443
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:51.439
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times tonight.

1444
01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:52.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm gone over.

1445
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:54.640
<v Speaker 1>You're doing okay?

1446
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1447
01:14:57.039 --> 01:14:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh okay, I didn't realize this. Maybe you can

1448
01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:01.640
<v Speaker 1>speak to this for in it. Jody says, kudos on

1449
01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:07.039
<v Speaker 1>putting the OHIS port on Module seventeen. Yes, so you

1450
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:10.560
<v Speaker 1>guys have the open headset standard port on it.

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01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Yep. Mark Smith has been a huge help with getting

1452
01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:19.159
<v Speaker 3>all that straightened out. And yeah, the actually, as a

1453
01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:22.319
<v Speaker 3>matter of fact, I have a couple of his kits

1454
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:28.439
<v Speaker 3>right here for the open headset you know, do it yourself. Yeah,

1455
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:31.760
<v Speaker 3>module that I need to test out. But yeah, we

1456
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:35.359
<v Speaker 3>were are I think the second project, the second open

1457
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:39.600
<v Speaker 3>source project to include the OHIS connector on a radio

1458
01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:46.319
<v Speaker 3>type device. Mark has been a huge supporter of M seventeen.

1459
01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:48.560
<v Speaker 3>He was actually the one that created the whole idea

1460
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:51.640
<v Speaker 3>for call sign encoding for us as well, so you know,

1461
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:55.560
<v Speaker 3>his his ideas have been put into the M seventeen spec.

1462
01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:58.079
<v Speaker 3>But when I saw that he had an open source

1463
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:02.159
<v Speaker 3>headset interconnect thing, I said, we need to put that

1464
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:07.279
<v Speaker 3>into our project because these little CLICKI balfung you know,

1465
01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:10.880
<v Speaker 3>speaker mic things. It's so one of the things that

1466
01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I keep saying is garbage in, garbage out. You got

1467
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:15.840
<v Speaker 3>garbage microphone, it's going to sound like garbage over the

1468
01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:19.439
<v Speaker 3>over the air. With the Open Headset Interconnect Standard, you

1469
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:23.399
<v Speaker 3>can use any quality headset with the Module seventeen and

1470
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 3>it's a simple connection. You just plug your headset in

1471
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:29.399
<v Speaker 3>and you're good to go. And so when they were

1472
01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:33.119
<v Speaker 3>redesigning the Module seventeen, I really pushed for this and

1473
01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.039
<v Speaker 3>that was a little bit of kick back, but you know,

1474
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:37.079
<v Speaker 3>we got everything straightened out and it's working.

1475
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Great, excellent. Yeah, I interviewed Mark on this show like

1476
01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:42.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe a year ago, a year and a half ago,

1477
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:44.840
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I saw something on qr Z about

1478
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:49.680
<v Speaker 1>this open Headset intercon inter Interconnect standard, I think is

1479
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:52.399
<v Speaker 1>what it is. And I'm like, oh, that sounds interesting,

1480
01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:54.159
<v Speaker 1>or maybe maybe I got an email about it something

1481
01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:55.600
<v Speaker 1>like that and I was like, Hey, you want to

1482
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:57.560
<v Speaker 1>come on the show and talk about it. So and

1483
01:16:57.840 --> 01:16:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know, that's kind of a neat sound

1484
01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in It's a great idea if everyone adopts it. But

1485
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:04.279
<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad to see So, I'm glad to see

1486
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys adopted that. It's great. So I need to

1487
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 1>pick up one of those kiss now that I know

1488
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it's available for this radio, I'll probably do that soon.

1489
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:13.920
<v Speaker 3>It's available for the module seventeen.

1490
01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:17.720
<v Speaker 1>For the uh, the one that goes on my six thousand.

1491
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for the version one point zero. It's not on

1492
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:24.399
<v Speaker 3>the newest version of the module seventeen.

1493
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think that's the one I have. No, no, no,

1494
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't no. When did that come out?

1495
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:31.079
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

1496
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:35.680
<v Speaker 3>It was released during ham Radio friedrich Schoffen, So when

1497
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:37.439
<v Speaker 3>we when I was over there in friedrich Schoffen, we

1498
01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:37.920
<v Speaker 3>released it.

1499
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And how does that differ from the one I have?

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01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Uh, it's the one that has that HMI board that

1501
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.239
<v Speaker 3>I was talking about that goes over the module and

1502
01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:49.760
<v Speaker 3>gets installed into a hammered case. There's a bunch of

1503
01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:55.359
<v Speaker 3>traces that were redesigned parts that were replaced for better parts,

1504
01:17:55.720 --> 01:18:01.359
<v Speaker 3>et cetera, et cetera. So still, no, EGO isn't manufacturing them,

1505
01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:03.720
<v Speaker 3>at least not that I'm aware of, or and I

1506
01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:07.680
<v Speaker 3>don't know if they have any plans for that right now,

1507
01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:09.680
<v Speaker 3>it's still just an open source project that you would

1508
01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:11.359
<v Speaker 3>have to get boards made for by yourself.

1509
01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Gotch oh, okay, so they're not commercially available, not yet. Okay, okay, okay, good, okay, okay,

1510
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:27.000
<v Speaker 1>cool just looking at the chat here. Okay, that's good,

1511
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:31.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, well cool man. Hey got both of you guys,

1512
01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:34.439
<v Speaker 1>Ed and Steve. Thanks for your time tonight. I like

1513
01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:37.279
<v Speaker 1>to keep I think I told you guys when oh

1514
01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Frank when it speaking of speaking of Ed, Frank wanted

1515
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:42.199
<v Speaker 1>me to print a picture of him and put it

1516
01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:47.399
<v Speaker 1>behind me tonight, So hey, print a picture of me.

1517
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:50.880
<v Speaker 1>See if anybody else I've got. I saw a picture of.

1518
01:18:52.680 --> 01:18:54.479
<v Speaker 3>All of the team in Germany right there.

1519
01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's got a picture of a guy behind him.

1520
01:18:58.279 --> 01:18:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, boy, check behind me.

1521
01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:03.039
<v Speaker 1>So the story behind that, if you don't know? At

1522
01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:05.039
<v Speaker 1>where was that Ham Cash this last year?

1523
01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah? So we were at Yeah Cash, Yeah.

1524
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Florida, Orlando, and I walked by the thank you,

1525
01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:19.159
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Chad for the gifted memberships. Appreciate that. So

1526
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Steve is there and M seventeen has a booth and

1527
01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Steve is there and he has a picture of Ed.

1528
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Kind of like in a frame on the table on

1529
01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the back wall, and everybody's coming by saying what happened

1530
01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:32.039
<v Speaker 1>to Ed?

1531
01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Is he?

1532
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay? What I mean, like as a memorial to or

1533
01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:36.520
<v Speaker 1>something like.

1534
01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Did not help at all.

1535
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Yeah, so

1536
01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:48.039
<v Speaker 1>that that's a Redding joke, is that?

1537
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1538
01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Frank's like, hey, put a picture of me behind you.

1539
01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I don't have a picture of you, Frank.

1540
01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:53.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's a great idea though.

1541
01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:57.880
<v Speaker 3>That that originally came from Rosie over at ar d C.

1542
01:19:59.680 --> 01:19:59.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1543
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.600
<v Speaker 3>First, okay, Yeah, the first trip that we took to Germany,

1544
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Ed wasn't able to go with us, so, you know,

1545
01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:07.920
<v Speaker 3>as a dedication to Ed and to have him with

1546
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:11.520
<v Speaker 3>us in the photo, we had him on the back

1547
01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:13.880
<v Speaker 3>wall when we were taking photos and everything like that.

1548
01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:17.720
<v Speaker 3>And Rosie, Rosie was a great person. It's got a

1549
01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:21.159
<v Speaker 3>awesome sense of humor. So Ever since then, I forced

1550
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:24.359
<v Speaker 3>Voychek to hold onto that photo, so every time that

1551
01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:26.760
<v Speaker 3>we go to another event, he has it with him

1552
01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:29.399
<v Speaker 3>and we put it up. I was like, I have

1553
01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:31.319
<v Speaker 3>enough pictures of it. I don't need another one to

1554
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:32.000
<v Speaker 3>carry around.

1555
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:34.720
<v Speaker 2>I got a ton of phone calls and text messages.

1556
01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Are you okay?

1557
01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Are you okay?

1558
01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:36.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1559
01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh dubt that at all. Uh that was funny

1560
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:44.279
<v Speaker 1>because it really looked like a memorial picture. And I'm like, dude,

1561
01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:47.159
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Ed? Hey man?

1562
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Ed?

1563
01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:48.079
<v Speaker 3>You got it?

1564
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:50.520
<v Speaker 1>You got a fan base, buddy, because I mean people

1565
01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:55.039
<v Speaker 1>were concerned about you. That's a good thing. That's awesome.

1566
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:57.680
<v Speaker 1>So all right, well, but when I brought you guys

1567
01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.560
<v Speaker 1>on the first time, I think it was like haamvention,

1568
01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Like the next year you said that I was the

1569
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:05.199
<v Speaker 1>first channel to ever live stream about seventeen. I'm like, well,

1570
01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:06.239
<v Speaker 1>we got to keep this going.

1571
01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:08.560
<v Speaker 2>So this is like this is like the seventh appearance.

1572
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I think something like that.

1573
01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:12.600
<v Speaker 3>That's what it's going to happen.

1574
01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I hope. So that'd be great. That'd be great. We

1575
01:21:15.079 --> 01:21:17.960
<v Speaker 1>would uh, we would, we would like that. So but yeah,

1576
01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:19.520
<v Speaker 1>we like to keep up with you guys, and I

1577
01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:23.039
<v Speaker 1>mean aar DC grant. You guys have made a lot

1578
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:25.479
<v Speaker 1>of progress since then, and it's been fun to kind

1579
01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of follow you guys and see what what all all

1580
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the different hands that are in it, all the different

1581
01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:32.960
<v Speaker 1>ideas everybody comes up with, and just how it's progressing.

1582
01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:34.920
<v Speaker 1>One of the things we were I was at a

1583
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Meshtastic convention two or three, a very small one here locally, uh,

1584
01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:41.279
<v Speaker 1>two or two or three weekends ago, and they were

1585
01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:43.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about the fact that Meshtastic is open source and

1586
01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:45.279
<v Speaker 1>how this and this and this and what can we

1587
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:46.800
<v Speaker 1>do to make it better? And I'm like, let me

1588
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:49.279
<v Speaker 1>tell you something. Ham Radio is all about open source

1589
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff right up until the point where people just kind

1590
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:55.319
<v Speaker 1>of like lose interest in it because there's no corporate

1591
01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:58.359
<v Speaker 1>backing behind it. There's no marketing, there's no advertising, there's

1592
01:21:58.399 --> 01:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>no this, that and the other. I've seen a lot

1593
01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:03.199
<v Speaker 1>of open source projects die on the on the table

1594
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:05.079
<v Speaker 1>because people just kind of like, oh, yeah, well that

1595
01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:07.199
<v Speaker 1>hadn't updated in six months, so what else is new?

1596
01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, that kind of thing. So but M seventeen

1597
01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:13.079
<v Speaker 1>having that boost from a RDC, I think is going

1598
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:15.199
<v Speaker 1>to be a really really good project for that. So

1599
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to seeing how you guys grow, what

1600
01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:19.920
<v Speaker 1>else you come up with, whether kind of new radios

1601
01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:22.720
<v Speaker 1>will come out with, and what goes from there. Have

1602
01:22:22.840 --> 01:22:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you have you talked to Joe with kamjat to see

1603
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:27.800
<v Speaker 1>if he's gonna try to work on anything with that

1604
01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:34.159
<v Speaker 1>or is that a it is, it is possible. Yeah.

1605
01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:38.000
<v Speaker 3>The problem that we're running into is that nobody wants

1606
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:42.000
<v Speaker 3>to do the work because M seventeen, even though it's

1607
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:45.439
<v Speaker 3>open source, doesn't mean that our time is free. And

1608
01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:48.600
<v Speaker 3>so a lot of these organizations that are asking for

1609
01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:52.159
<v Speaker 3>M seventeen to be built into their products get kind

1610
01:22:52.199 --> 01:22:53.840
<v Speaker 3>of scared away when we say, okay, well, this is

1611
01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:55.239
<v Speaker 3>how much it's going to cost for me to do

1612
01:22:55.359 --> 01:22:58.920
<v Speaker 3>that for you. Oh yeah, okay, you know it's open source.

1613
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Anybody can do the work if they understand it. But again,

1614
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:05.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, these companies have to realize that time is money.

1615
01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Time is money, sure, absolutely, yeah, you know.

1616
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:09.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean I'd love to do the work for free,

1617
01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:13.680
<v Speaker 3>but I can't eat yeah spaghetti off of free right.

1618
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I don't blame you. I don't blame you.

1619
01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I really, I really don't blame you. I mean the

1620
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:20.199
<v Speaker 1>end product, I mean, you pay for it once, you

1621
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:22.479
<v Speaker 1>pay programmer one time, and then you have it forever.

1622
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:25.319
<v Speaker 1>The end product is what it's is what it's about

1623
01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:27.039
<v Speaker 1>with the open source thing. So no, I don't blame me.

1624
01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:29.159
<v Speaker 1>I would do the same thing. So, yeah, if I

1625
01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>was a programmer, in which I am not. You don't

1626
01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>want me programming your stuff, so you can hire Frank.

1627
01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:36.199
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to hire Frank.

1628
01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:36.319
<v Speaker 2>That.

1629
01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I tried to get Frank a job with Flex Radio

1630
01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:42.279
<v Speaker 1>like three years ago at Ham Vincheon. He's like well,

1631
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, they're in Austin, They're like three hours

1632
01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:47.039
<v Speaker 1>south of us. And he's like, well, I like going

1633
01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:49.279
<v Speaker 1>into the office. I'm like, you are no longer my friend.

1634
01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you have a job. You have an interview.

1635
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:53.680
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't offered a job. I was like, you have

1636
01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>an interview with Flex freaking Radio, Frank, and you like

1637
01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and you do. And he lives by him so off

1638
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:03.279
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't like to work from home. I'm like, seriously,

1639
01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:05.399
<v Speaker 1>why am I friends with you? I don't even I

1640
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:08.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know who you are. I like to tease him

1641
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>about that because he's a good sport, but you know,

1642
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, so.

1643
01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:15.800
<v Speaker 3>He's also crazy enough to jump out of a perfectly

1644
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:16.239
<v Speaker 3>good point.

1645
01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>That is that is a that is a good point

1646
01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, that is a good point as well.

1647
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>So I was at a local I was at that

1648
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Belton, on one of our local hamfests,

1649
01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, hey, where's the guy that jumps out

1650
01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:27.319
<v Speaker 1>of planes. I'm like, Carlos, he lives in Indiana. No, no, no,

1651
01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:29.159
<v Speaker 1>the other guy that lives down here. I'm like Frank.

1652
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, worse. I'm like, that's not how you

1653
01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>describe Frank, the guy that jumps out of planes. That's

1654
01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:38.399
<v Speaker 1>not right. That's wrong, fundamentally wrong with that. Great Yeah,

1655
01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:41.079
<v Speaker 1>I think twice. Carlos probably has a thousand jumps under

1656
01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:43.279
<v Speaker 1>his film, but Frank is the guy who jumps out

1657
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:46.600
<v Speaker 1>of planes. I don't know. I found that. I found

1658
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that odd.

1659
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Famous.

1660
01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I'm famous. Oh boy. Yeah, all in good fun,

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<v Speaker 1>All in good fun, guys. Thanks once again for your

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<v Speaker 1>time tonight. We will definitely keep in touch. I share

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<v Speaker 1>the link to the discord. I'll put the link to

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<v Speaker 1>the discord in the description. Also for you guys on

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<v Speaker 1>Team Replay, y'all can go check that out the discord,

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeen discord. If you have any questions or comments,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're a developer and want to get involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the project, I'm sure they'd welcome me in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's it's gonna be. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good it's gonna be really fun to see how well

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. And I'm gonna have fun listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>for the next couple of weeks to see just the

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<v Speaker 1>activity and what it overall sounds. Likes that are just

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<v Speaker 1>listened it for a couple of minutes on the live stream,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's gonna be a good, good project to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, both of you guys, Ed Steve, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>your time tonight, and uh just kind of look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to seeing where it goes from here.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks JAS support amateur radio, open source projects, go out there,

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<v Speaker 2>get you told GitHub account and see what else is

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Love yeah projects, Yeah, yeah, good, good, good, All right, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot. We're gonna we're gonna let y'all go

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk to everybody in the chat. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you'all this week sometimes. So seventy three at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice, seventy three later
