WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:01.040 Now one of your pudding. 2 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:04.320 I got a string going on here, something just cause 3 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:04.879 my dog. 4 00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:07.320 Something killed your dog, my dog. 5 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:09.320 We're flying through the or over the tree. I don't 6 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:14.400 know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. 7 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:16.480 All I saw was my dog coming over the fence 8 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:18.239 and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like, 9 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:20.160 I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my 10 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:38.960 dog coming over the fence. Sat what are you putting? 11 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:43.759 We got some wonder or something crawling around out here? 12 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:51.920 Did you see what it was? 13 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 14 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing up? I'm out here looking through the window now 15 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.479 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. 16 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:04.799 Jesus Quice, you better Hello, hit theboddy out here? 17 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:05.480 What quin? 18 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:06.079 I'm out there? 19 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:06.719 That's thought of a. 20 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:10.519 Bench about tech forty nine? I don't know eat out there. Yeah, 21 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:11.359 I'm welcome right. 22 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.599 Hey, hey, everybody, and welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. I 23 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:18.319 was recently at the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference, and on 24 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:21.079 Friday night, we kicked things off with a VIP dinner 25 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:23.519 where all of the speakers got together for a fun 26 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:28.640 and insightful Q and A session. The panel included Ryan RPG, Golumbeski, 27 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:35.200 Da Roberts, Shane Carpenter, David Ziegan, and myself. What you're 28 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:39.920 about to hear is that entire session, unfiltered, unscripted, and 29 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:43.319 full of great moments. The audience came ready with some 30 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:46.319 fantastic questions and we had a great time diving into 31 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:50.519 everything from field research and theory, to personal experiences and 32 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:54.560 even the lighter side of bigfoot investigations. I'll also be 33 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:58.760 releasing each of the individual speaker presentations as separate episode soon, 34 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.280 so be sure to stay to for those. Just a 35 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:03.840 quick note before we get started. This was a live 36 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:07.159 recording in a large room using multiple recorders, so the 37 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.599 audio isn't quite at the same level you're used to 38 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.360 on the show. You may want to listen with earbuds 39 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.319 or headphones so you don't miss any of the great conversation. 40 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.080 But for now, sit back, relax, and enjoy the special 41 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:23.840 VIP night Q and A from the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference. 42 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:28.159 All right, so our first question is from We're not Sure. 43 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:32.439 It says how much entertainment do you believe needs to 44 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:38.080 be involved in getting new researchers interested? And by entertainment, 45 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:42.360 whoever wrote do you mean TV shows, podcasts, radio programs, 46 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:44.800 What do we mean by entertainment about? 47 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.280 Really what do we need to do to get more 48 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:54.759 or less younger researchers because we're all not getting younger involved. 49 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:58.039 Okay, Tomorrow I'm going to talk about how to actually 50 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:00.319 get younger and how the Bigfoot is most like we're 51 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:01.280 using the fountain of youth. 52 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:03.599 Yeah, let's start at the end and work our way down. 53 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:06.479 Yet you're on the spot. Thanks, That is a pretty 54 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:07.039 fair question. 55 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:11.360 Unfortunately, with a lot of shows of like Mountain Monsters 56 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.319 that go over the top with the showmanship, and I 57 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.719 think it really does more harm than good to credital sources. 58 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.199 I'm trying to deliver a tass shade at that show. 59 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.479 It's fun to watch, just don't go into it expecting 60 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:28.000 to learn anything real because it's all staged. But unfortunately, 61 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.680 shows like that are on a network to make money 62 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:34.439 and they're gonna do what it takes to keep advertising, 63 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.919 advertising revenue and things like that. But as far as 64 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.560 us in the community, I think just involving people more, 65 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:43.319 we don't necessarily need a lot of showmanship because a 66 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.159 lot of the facts just speak themselves. 67 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:46.840 The last time I did one of these. 68 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:49.599 The sheer amount of casts he had on his desk 69 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:53.080 alone should have blown most people's minds. It was just 70 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:55.599 astounding how many casts you've gotten. I've only over the 71 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:58.039 years got a few casts, but he in the course 72 00:03:58.039 --> 00:03:59.639 of a day. I've never seen that many ki plaster 73 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.280 casts once bought, Not since the last time I was 74 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.960 in valk, Arkansas anyway. But anyway, I think literally all 75 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.400 we need to do to involve the next generation is 76 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.919 just to involve them. Let them go out and go 77 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.319 have an experience. Take them someplace where they can have 78 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.160 some sort of interaction, whether they hear a loop, where 79 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.160 they hear a tree knox, whether they hear or even 80 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.800 have a sighting. But at the first time somebody legit 81 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.519 finds a track where you can see the imprint of 82 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:26.839 the ball of the foot and the toes and it's 83 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.759 sixteen seventeen inches long and you put your own foot 84 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:31.759 next to it. At that point, I think they're going 85 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:32.319 to be hooked. 86 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:34.000 It's just getting the. 87 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:39.079 Younger generation involved and unfortunately getting them off PlayStation in 88 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:42.560 the phones. But I think having an experience is probably 89 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.279 going to be really all we need to get the 90 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.040 next generation involved all right. 91 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:51.199 So I have three boys ranging from fifteen to twenty one, 92 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.519 so I grew up around this over the years. With me, 93 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:58.000 what I see as far as the future goes, like 94 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.519 entertainment is changing. A lot of some people don't even 95 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:05.120 watch TV anymore, right that My kids hardly watch TV. 96 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.439 They're usually if they are, they're streaming it off their 97 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.199 phones or they're streaming in something in particular that they 98 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:14.600 want to watch. So in my opinion, i'd be it 99 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:18.680 going towards more towards the Internet and people being able 100 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.720 to pull up podcasts that there's so many YouTube channels now. 101 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:27.279 I think that's the thing that's keeping what younger generation 102 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.920 is interested in this subject interested. 103 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:33.120 There's so much material out there now and used to. 104 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:36.839 But when I was growing up, you'd occasionally maybe catch 105 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:41.720 something on TV. But there's so many different ways to 106 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:45.040 find information now for this for the younger generation that 107 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:49.480 I think that more young even more young people are 108 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:54.040 actually getting into it versus twenty years ago. 109 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:56.000 Just because it's more easily attainable. 110 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.639 And in my opinion, we do need these younger generation 111 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.480 behind us coming up and trying to pick up where 112 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:06.680 we're leaving off, trying new things. It could be just 113 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:08.759 that one right person that has the right idea at 114 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:12.920 the right time that makes the discovery or approves that these. 115 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:13.360 Things are real. 116 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:17.600 And in my opinion, we haven't really gotten too much closer. 117 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.399 Even though there are more people doing it and there's 118 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:24.920 thousands of channels out there to watch and look at, 119 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:28.199 we haven't really made any giant leaps forward. 120 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.680 And I think it's we need the. 121 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:32.920 Next generation to be there and pick up where we 122 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:36.639 left off at some point. So I think it's very important. 123 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:39.839 Like what you guys are, what you've done with him 124 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.480 over in the UK. Things like that I think are 125 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.399 important because other kids are gonna see that and they're 126 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:48.480 gonna say, hey, I could do that. 127 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.199 And I think that's a big part of it. 128 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:54.959 You go to any channel and it's mostly people our 129 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:58.800 age that are really putting out things, and we need 130 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:01.920 some of that younger generation being brought into it, not 131 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:03.000 finding their way into it. 132 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.519 We have to bring some of that younger generation into 133 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:06.319 it so. 134 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:10.120 They can inspire other people their age. So I think 135 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:14.759 it's very important. Are we doing enough. Probably not, But 136 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:17.839 it's things like that are I think gonna help push 137 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:20.199 and the bring awareness to some of the. 138 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.439 Younger people I used to do, we are one year away. 139 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:27.480 They're not problem we about you have people. 140 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:31.839 Younger generation making hundreds of millions of dollars online and 141 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:32.720 so part of. 142 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:35.839 My goal through working kids why not is to find 143 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:39.439 that influencer that literally is doing pranks for an a 144 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:41.759 million dollar prank just cause they have money. 145 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:44.800 To love and go listen. Our major problem in the 146 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.240 skill of research is that higher education is not putting 147 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:49.519 anyone or any. 148 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:51.800 Interest to do it, which I think is for a reason, right, 149 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.439 So you have to find someone outside of the status 150 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:56.000 as well that has. 151 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.560 The money to really go afford. 152 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:00.879 And I do think it's this simple as getting as 153 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:01.800 remote as. 154 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:05.160 Possible, or getting the technology that is not available on 155 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:07.319 the public sect or they have drones now they can 156 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:09.600 go a half a mile like five minutes and if 157 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:12.319 you were lucky, I'm exciting, and you had someone. 158 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:13.959 Wrong and at that I could race out there and 159 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:14.720 hit it immediately. 160 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:16.319 I think you seeing three questions. 161 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:19.040 But yeah, I think in terms of entertainment, YouTube, these 162 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:19.439 other we. 163 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:20.560 Are we're moving away. 164 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:23.079 From TV, We're moving into these other rounds and it's 165 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:24.680 creating the young millionaires. 166 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:27.839 And just one of them out of the world. I'd 167 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:31.439 be happy to create an old millionaire and I'll take no. No, 168 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:32.799 I'd get paid to put 'em back on it. 169 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:34.759 But I said, you get paid millions for that. 170 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:39.000 Putting on gets cutting out? Guy, we're very serious research. 171 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:42.240 What's go Yeah, And so my opinion is going to 172 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:46.559 be slanging difference. I mean right now what you just said, 173 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:48.159 especially with what they don't eaten. 174 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.759 With thors and all the YouTube channels. 175 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:54.120 Out there that were starting to blur the line research, right, 176 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.120 and when we talked about bringing in new. 177 00:08:57.039 --> 00:09:00.279 People, you know, to a nice draw kind of think 178 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:01.399 the television show. 179 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:03.639 That's what Got mean when so I can see you 180 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.360 can make the transition, but I think at some point 181 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:08.919 there has to be how about their. 182 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:13.320 Founders, you know, to say, okay, do research actually is Persu's. 183 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:14.759 Voice, So I think anything would still has to. 184 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:18.840 Die absolutely and help bring people with That's what Got means. 185 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.279 But at some points there has to be a way 186 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:25.000 to switch the load and say, hey, there's a lot 187 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:29.039 of people obbers call user and I think the shade 188 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:31.320 it right on the end of we're still doing. 189 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.600 The same things over and over the same way. And 190 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.799 if prodress so it's time to start changing the way over. 191 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.919 So that's just kind of like what do you think though? 192 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:44.559 So cloth on that, I wow, these young influencers with 193 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:47.399 their money as a way to create a. 194 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:51.039 Full as traditions or with bring someone like you, or 195 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:52.159 there's just we need. 196 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.399 Money, be kind to to spend the time we need 197 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:56.799 in the woods to have a tack we need if 198 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:57.440 tack is what. 199 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:00.320 We truly that to a bias, those opportunit the us 200 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:02.480 to wait, I I why I agree with you that 201 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:05.039 if they're gonna do it, they need to bring people. 202 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:06.440 You got to be mentored. 203 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.759 So just be from experience of trying to break into 204 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:12.720 this world, from trying to cromal. 205 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:16.120 Research and trying to come into this it very It's 206 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:17.159 tough going my. 207 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:22.639 Person game to differentiate and sitting through who's real, who's nods, 208 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:24.519 who's in it just for the show. 209 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.279 So who do I need to speak to? Is really 210 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:30.600 hard to navigating, and only because I was interested in 211 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:34.159 it already is wife and build. But I could easily see. 212 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:37.840 Somebody from my side going they're not taking a serious 213 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:40.240 so why should I? Because they happen to come across 214 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:43.399 the wrong people right from the get go. But if 215 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.559 they happen to come across the white person, then hey, 216 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.320 you got another scientific person trying to through research. Sure 217 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:52.399 cause I talked with some people at work about this 218 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:55.480 and they immediately made. 219 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:58.279 These of course car So then when I first. 220 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.200 Ideals with some of the things I had, and I'd 221 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:01.159 all tested that. 222 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.279 Labor critancy with hey, what do you think is this right? 223 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:06.720 And they're like, what is that problem? 224 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:07.679 Like, I'm not gonna tell you. 225 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:09.240 Sometimes we do most of the. 226 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:12.559 Things, and I have had a fumble tell them, yeah, 227 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:13.919 those are as a little er and. 228 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:17.200 The uh tellble bring came from and they're like playing 229 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.320 off to do it. But the part of the problem 230 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:23.080 is to be entertainment. It's all super fun. Sometimes you 231 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:25.919 could get a turn off before it was it's hard 232 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.039 to find the lifeline to the visor. 233 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.080 Sure, but it wasn't really big part like how do 234 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:34.440 we bring in new researchers whether we be like or not, because. 235 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:35.120 I'm fa I love it. 236 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.320 They have the attention of this generation. 237 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:42.279 Oh no, without of do we could figure out how 238 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:45.840 to guide them correctly that I think we have a 239 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:47.000 rescue for success. 240 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:50.080 But that's so it was those kind of cause I'm 241 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:54.000 gonna put you guys, it's partly be entertained, but part 242 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.039 of the big I'd make no qualms. 243 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:57.360 About the fact that I know my show was about 244 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:59.960 entertaining people tune in to be entertained by the store 245 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:01.799 that I collect. 246 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.840 But I'm also a very serious researcher. I'm serious about 247 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:08.919 the research. I'm serious about the subject, so I have 248 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.960 to do my best to read through that for the 249 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:13.600 people who. 250 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:14.200 Listen to my show. 251 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:16.600 I make no qualms when I put something out that's 252 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.960 for entertainment. I write stories sometimes on my podcast. I 253 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:23.720 just released a story about Bigfoot killing the serial killer 254 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:27.600 for entertainment because it was protecting the people. That's the 255 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:28.360 kind of stuff that. 256 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.200 Does bring in the younger generation. 257 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:31.080 But I agree with you. 258 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:34.080 I think people need to do a better job of 259 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:38.840 selecting the entertainment that you are consuming in. 260 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:45.120 The community and do a better job of supporting. 261 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:48.159 Those people who are serious about the research. So it 262 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:51.360 goes back to the people in the community that may 263 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.000 not be researchers. Maybe they're just interested in the subject. 264 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:57.000 Maybe they just consume the podcast that I put out 265 00:12:57.080 --> 00:13:00.399 or one of the other a thousand out there. But 266 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:02.879 that's where I see a divide because when I, as 267 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:05.759 a podcaster, have dipped my toe into the serious research. 268 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:07.440 That's why I have problems. 269 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:09.279 People have no problem with me as. 270 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:12.440 An entertainer and a podcaster, but when I present evidence 271 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:15.840 casts that I've made or experiences that I've had, people 272 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.000 are like, oh, you're the bigfoot guy. Now you're casting 273 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:23.039 big book brands. Wow, I'm totally aware of. So there's 274 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:25.000 a lot of people I think that are are entertainment 275 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:27.919 that are serious about the research, but some of them. 276 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:31.039 Just stick to what works because there is some stigma 277 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:34.080 community about what you can't do both, but I think 278 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:34.559 you can't. 279 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:36.320 There is a fine line. 280 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:39.080 But it goes back to the people that are assuming 281 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.559 that content. So it's a two way street. It's the 282 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:43.960 people putting out that content. There are people actually put 283 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.720 out other stuff. They know that they're hoaxing things, they 284 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:48.600 know they're just they're people plain they're there. 285 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.759 For cliques, but there's a reason they do. 286 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:55.120 The community comes back, they click, they watch, they consume, and. 287 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:58.399 That frankly bothers me because I try not to do 288 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:02.320 that as part of that community, entertaining part of it. 289 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:05.240 So it's a two way street. I think it brings 290 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.440 people in, It brings that next generation in. 291 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:09.519 But we have to be received question in. 292 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:12.000 The way that we're doing it, be as a content 293 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.440 creator or anybody who creates content and then the people 294 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:16.799 who consume it. So we have to have a more 295 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.879 symbiotic relationship in my opinion to make that happen, because 296 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:22.639 I think it's a necessary able to Christ's try. 297 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:24.600 I think that would be good question. We need to 298 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:26.320 entertainment part to bring people in. 299 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.320 Oh, absolutely agree, but we have to be more responsible 300 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:34.720 with what we're putting out there, and as consumers, you 301 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:37.200 have to be a responsible consumer out of that content. 302 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:39.720 So thank you for that one question. That's all the 303 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:42.679 time we have to go. All right, we're moving on. 304 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:43.360 We'll start here. 305 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:44.759 You're gonna this one. 306 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:50.480 When someone shares an encounter with you, what criteria do 307 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:54.360 you use to determine if they are being honest, be 308 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:55.240 careful what you say. 309 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:55.639 I'm all. 310 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:00.399 Stay tuned for more sasquat ch'able to see right back 311 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:01.600 after the East messages. 312 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:08.399 Uh so you know what, I I do have to 313 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:09.120 get a deal. 314 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:12.240 Pretty card on them because uh, I actually don't interview 315 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:15.200 people for or for those kind of things. 316 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.840 I am professionally trained to interviewer bugs. 317 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.600 I've been spold of. The method that I would use 318 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.759 for talking to that person is not necessarily inducing. 319 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:27.639 I would like to have them not er home. 320 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:30.519 For uh, because time I talk to a view and 321 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:33.519 what they want is they want to interview them whether 322 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.759 they're the most comfortable in the living room or outside 323 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:38.240 or something like that. 324 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:42.080 That's the exact opposite of the training that I ever see. 325 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.519 I think you have to treat witnesses when the kid 326 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:49.279 loves because we're talking about possible traumatic issues and I'm. 327 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:53.480 Not specifically trained for feeling to feel psychologically with that 328 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.480 I am trained with interviewing. 329 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.039 Witness is kind of the problems to run across the 330 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:02.559 witness is with machority my career is that they want 331 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:03.759 to be hopeful, and. 332 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.960 That's the biggest problem is you started to ask questions 333 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:11.559 and immediately they didn't think of that detail or they 334 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:12.799 realized they didn't get. 335 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:15.759 That detail, but they wanted to be helpful, so they 336 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:16.279 had happened. 337 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:20.080 And it's tough to just type group between the have 338 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:23.679 truths it. The troop will always in there, but most 339 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:24.759 of the times of coll but this. 340 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:26.720 Is they just want to be helpful, and they don't 341 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.720 realize that you wanted that particular impremation. So it's really 342 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.000 tough because you have to feel in the kid gloves 343 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:34.919 because everyeople want to fight, and it's different. 344 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:39.200 They experienced different things. They're gonna handle the traumatic stress. 345 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:43.960 But I don't get a witnesses alright, so ah, they're 346 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:44.759 probably a good thing. 347 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:45.799 So there you go. 348 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:49.399 I rambled it. Oh okay, now I only have ten seconds, 349 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:50.000 so here we go. 350 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:52.919 I wouldn't say I'm not a trained psychologist, therapist or 351 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:53.279 any of that. 352 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:53.879 I wouldn't know. 353 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.440 I've interviewed thousands of people working out there. But if 354 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.639 I started off to hear I'm not every single one 355 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:01.399 of you that came through the door, that's I would stop. 356 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:02.960 And tell me their story because they were too scared 357 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:05.160 to saying on the stands Now, with that said, I 358 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:08.240 would say, here are some things that I would believe 359 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:12.359 the person one, first responders, people that work that could 360 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:14.400 have lost their job or be truly shamed. 361 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.440 That are now retired to come forward and gotta listen. 362 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:18.680 I've been waiting for thirty years to say this. 363 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:21.599 Here we go. I tend to believe them. I tend 364 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:22.680 to believe anyone. 365 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.839 That bef As they're getting ready to tell me the story, 366 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:28.480 they shudder, a hair stands up when there are they get. 367 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:32.319 Goosebumps, their pupil's dilay and you're like, wow, if you're 368 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:33.440 a if, could. 369 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:35.720 You tell me there's classically trained Julia and actors and 370 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:38.319 actresses that come to these events just gonna mess with me. 371 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:41.920 Sure, but that's the people I tend to believe. And 372 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:43.640 that's about all I can tell you. 373 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:46.279 Outside of that, I remember, trust me, honest person, I 374 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:47.799 why would you tell me a lot? 375 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:49.680 So I wouldn't say I'm the best suggest people. 376 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.279 But if there are physical things that happen to their 377 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:55.079 body when they're telling you, and it actually spooks them 378 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:56.359 to go back to the moment that. 379 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.119 Could have happened turty years ago, I'd say, feeling someone 380 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:01.039 telling the truth, you want to go next story? 381 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:02.519 You want to get a paspated, I'll go. 382 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.000 I've probably interviewed over a thousand people at this point 383 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:09.839 for the podcast, and I to have a law enforcement background. 384 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.200 I was a COB for sixteen years, so I had 385 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.640 to check that at the door, because when I started the. 386 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:16.079 Podcast, I did not want to. 387 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:21.119 Be the interrogator of people that had Bigfoot experiences. 388 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:24.359 So I know what you're saying. You have to definitely 389 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:25.440 check that at the door. 390 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:28.599 But as far as believing people, for me, it's very 391 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:31.400 much like Ryan said, it's it's body language, it's eye 392 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:34.640 contact to a whole big cues, and I'm a drained interrogator, 393 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:37.359 so even not interrogating people. 394 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:39.400 You have to pick up on those cues. But here's 395 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:41.599 the thing. I've never had anybody on my show. 396 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:44.160 If you've ever listened to one of the six hundred 397 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:47.119 plus episodes of my podcast, I've never interviewed anybody in 398 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:50.279 viewing the episode where I did not believe that person 399 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:52.039 believed that they had their experience. 400 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.000 Sometimes it probably happened in their mind. 401 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:57.559