Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding.
Speaker 2: I got a string going on here, something just cause
Speaker 2: my dog.
Speaker 1: Something killed your dog, my dog.
Speaker 2: We're flying through the or over the tree. I don't
Speaker 2: know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused.
Speaker 2: All I saw was my dog coming over the fence
Speaker 2: and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,
Speaker 2: I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my
Speaker 2: dog coming over the fence. Sat what are you putting?
Speaker 2: We got some wonder or something crawling around out here?
Speaker 2: Did you see what it was?
Speaker 3: Or was it was?
Speaker 2: Standing up? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 2: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.
Speaker 2: Jesus Quice, you better Hello, hit theboddy out here?
Speaker 3: What quin?
Speaker 2: I'm out there?
Speaker 3: That's thought of a.
Speaker 2: Bench about tech forty nine? I don't know eat out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm welcome right.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, everybody, and welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. I
Speaker 4: was recently at the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference, and on
Speaker 4: Friday night, we kicked things off with a VIP dinner
Speaker 4: where all of the speakers got together for a fun
Speaker 4: and insightful Q and A session. The panel included Ryan RPG, Golumbeski,
Speaker 4: Da Roberts, Shane Carpenter, David Ziegan, and myself. What you're
Speaker 4: about to hear is that entire session, unfiltered, unscripted, and
Speaker 4: full of great moments. The audience came ready with some
Speaker 4: fantastic questions and we had a great time diving into
Speaker 4: everything from field research and theory, to personal experiences and
Speaker 4: even the lighter side of bigfoot investigations. I'll also be
Speaker 4: releasing each of the individual speaker presentations as separate episode soon,
Speaker 4: so be sure to stay to for those. Just a
Speaker 4: quick note before we get started. This was a live
Speaker 4: recording in a large room using multiple recorders, so the
Speaker 4: audio isn't quite at the same level you're used to
Speaker 4: on the show. You may want to listen with earbuds
Speaker 4: or headphones so you don't miss any of the great conversation.
Speaker 4: But for now, sit back, relax, and enjoy the special
Speaker 4: VIP night Q and A from the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference.
Speaker 3: All right, so our first question is from We're not Sure.
Speaker 5: It says how much entertainment do you believe needs to
Speaker 5: be involved in getting new researchers interested? And by entertainment,
Speaker 5: whoever wrote do you mean TV shows, podcasts, radio programs,
Speaker 5: What do we mean by entertainment about?
Speaker 6: Really what do we need to do to get more
Speaker 6: or less younger researchers because we're all not getting younger involved.
Speaker 5: Okay, Tomorrow I'm going to talk about how to actually
Speaker 5: get younger and how the Bigfoot is most like we're
Speaker 5: using the fountain of youth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's start at the end and work our way down.
Speaker 3: Yet you're on the spot. Thanks, That is a pretty
Speaker 3: fair question.
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, with a lot of shows of like Mountain Monsters
Speaker 7: that go over the top with the showmanship, and I
Speaker 7: think it really does more harm than good to credital sources.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to deliver a tass shade at that show.
Speaker 7: It's fun to watch, just don't go into it expecting
Speaker 7: to learn anything real because it's all staged. But unfortunately,
Speaker 7: shows like that are on a network to make money
Speaker 7: and they're gonna do what it takes to keep advertising,
Speaker 7: advertising revenue and things like that. But as far as
Speaker 7: us in the community, I think just involving people more,
Speaker 7: we don't necessarily need a lot of showmanship because a
Speaker 7: lot of the facts just speak themselves.
Speaker 3: The last time I did one of these.
Speaker 7: The sheer amount of casts he had on his desk
Speaker 7: alone should have blown most people's minds. It was just
Speaker 7: astounding how many casts you've gotten. I've only over the
Speaker 7: years got a few casts, but he in the course
Speaker 7: of a day. I've never seen that many ki plaster
Speaker 7: casts once bought, Not since the last time I was
Speaker 7: in valk, Arkansas anyway. But anyway, I think literally all
Speaker 7: we need to do to involve the next generation is
Speaker 7: just to involve them. Let them go out and go
Speaker 7: have an experience. Take them someplace where they can have
Speaker 7: some sort of interaction, whether they hear a loop, where
Speaker 7: they hear a tree knox, whether they hear or even
Speaker 7: have a sighting. But at the first time somebody legit
Speaker 7: finds a track where you can see the imprint of
Speaker 7: the ball of the foot and the toes and it's
Speaker 7: sixteen seventeen inches long and you put your own foot
Speaker 7: next to it. At that point, I think they're going
Speaker 7: to be hooked.
Speaker 1: It's just getting the.
Speaker 7: Younger generation involved and unfortunately getting them off PlayStation in
Speaker 7: the phones. But I think having an experience is probably
Speaker 7: going to be really all we need to get the
Speaker 7: next generation involved all right.
Speaker 8: So I have three boys ranging from fifteen to twenty one,
Speaker 8: so I grew up around this over the years. With me,
Speaker 8: what I see as far as the future goes, like
Speaker 8: entertainment is changing. A lot of some people don't even
Speaker 8: watch TV anymore, right that My kids hardly watch TV.
Speaker 8: They're usually if they are, they're streaming it off their
Speaker 8: phones or they're streaming in something in particular that they
Speaker 8: want to watch. So in my opinion, i'd be it
Speaker 8: going towards more towards the Internet and people being able
Speaker 8: to pull up podcasts that there's so many YouTube channels now.
Speaker 8: I think that's the thing that's keeping what younger generation
Speaker 8: is interested in this subject interested.
Speaker 1: There's so much material out there now and used to.
Speaker 8: But when I was growing up, you'd occasionally maybe catch
Speaker 8: something on TV. But there's so many different ways to
Speaker 8: find information now for this for the younger generation that
Speaker 8: I think that more young even more young people are
Speaker 8: actually getting into it versus twenty years ago.
Speaker 9: Just because it's more easily attainable.
Speaker 8: And in my opinion, we do need these younger generation
Speaker 8: behind us coming up and trying to pick up where
Speaker 8: we're leaving off, trying new things. It could be just
Speaker 8: that one right person that has the right idea at
Speaker 8: the right time that makes the discovery or approves that these.
Speaker 1: Things are real.
Speaker 9: And in my opinion, we haven't really gotten too much closer.
Speaker 8: Even though there are more people doing it and there's
Speaker 8: thousands of channels out there to watch and look at,
Speaker 8: we haven't really made any giant leaps forward.
Speaker 9: And I think it's we need the.
Speaker 8: Next generation to be there and pick up where we
Speaker 8: left off at some point. So I think it's very important.
Speaker 8: Like what you guys are, what you've done with him
Speaker 8: over in the UK. Things like that I think are
Speaker 8: important because other kids are gonna see that and they're
Speaker 8: gonna say, hey, I could do that.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 8: You go to any channel and it's mostly people our
Speaker 8: age that are really putting out things, and we need
Speaker 8: some of that younger generation being brought into it, not
Speaker 8: finding their way into it.
Speaker 9: We have to bring some of that younger generation into
Speaker 9: it so.
Speaker 8: They can inspire other people their age. So I think
Speaker 8: it's very important. Are we doing enough. Probably not, But
Speaker 8: it's things like that are I think gonna help push
Speaker 8: and the bring awareness to some of the.
Speaker 3: Younger people I used to do, we are one year away.
Speaker 10: They're not problem we about you have people.
Speaker 11: Younger generation making hundreds of millions of dollars online and
Speaker 11: so part of.
Speaker 10: My goal through working kids why not is to find
Speaker 10: that influencer that literally is doing pranks for an a
Speaker 10: million dollar prank just cause they have money.
Speaker 3: To love and go listen. Our major problem in the
Speaker 3: skill of research is that higher education is not putting
Speaker 3: anyone or any.
Speaker 11: Interest to do it, which I think is for a reason, right,
Speaker 11: So you have to find someone outside of the status
Speaker 11: as well that has.
Speaker 10: The money to really go afford.
Speaker 3: And I do think it's this simple as getting as
Speaker 3: remote as.
Speaker 12: Possible, or getting the technology that is not available on
Speaker 12: the public sect or they have drones now they can
Speaker 12: go a half a mile like five minutes and if
Speaker 12: you were lucky, I'm exciting, and you had someone.
Speaker 10: Wrong and at that I could race out there and
Speaker 10: hit it immediately.
Speaker 3: I think you seeing three questions.
Speaker 10: But yeah, I think in terms of entertainment, YouTube, these
Speaker 10: other we.
Speaker 3: Are we're moving away.
Speaker 10: From TV, We're moving into these other rounds and it's
Speaker 10: creating the young millionaires.
Speaker 3: And just one of them out of the world. I'd
Speaker 3: be happy to create an old millionaire and I'll take no. No,
Speaker 3: I'd get paid to put 'em back on it.
Speaker 10: But I said, you get paid millions for that.
Speaker 3: Putting on gets cutting out? Guy, we're very serious research.
Speaker 13: What's go Yeah, And so my opinion is going to
Speaker 13: be slanging difference. I mean right now what you just said,
Speaker 13: especially with what they don't eaten.
Speaker 3: With thors and all the YouTube channels.
Speaker 13: Out there that were starting to blur the line research, right,
Speaker 13: and when we talked about bringing in new.
Speaker 3: People, you know, to a nice draw kind of think
Speaker 3: the television show.
Speaker 13: That's what Got mean when so I can see you
Speaker 13: can make the transition, but I think at some point
Speaker 13: there has to be how about their.
Speaker 3: Founders, you know, to say, okay, do research actually is Persu's.
Speaker 14: Voice, So I think anything would still has to.
Speaker 3: Die absolutely and help bring people with That's what Got means.
Speaker 13: But at some points there has to be a way
Speaker 13: to switch the load and say, hey, there's a lot
Speaker 13: of people obbers call user and I think the shade
Speaker 13: it right on the end of we're still doing.
Speaker 3: The same things over and over the same way. And
Speaker 3: if prodress so it's time to start changing the way over.
Speaker 14: So that's just kind of like what do you think though?
Speaker 15: So cloth on that, I wow, these young influencers with
Speaker 15: their money as a way to create a.
Speaker 3: Full as traditions or with bring someone like you, or
Speaker 3: there's just we need.
Speaker 11: Money, be kind to to spend the time we need
Speaker 11: in the woods to have a tack we need if
Speaker 11: tack is what.
Speaker 10: We truly that to a bias, those opportunit the us
Speaker 10: to wait, I I why I agree with you that
Speaker 10: if they're gonna do it, they need to bring people.
Speaker 10: You got to be mentored.
Speaker 13: So just be from experience of trying to break into
Speaker 13: this world, from trying to cromal.
Speaker 3: Research and trying to come into this it very It's
Speaker 3: tough going my.
Speaker 13: Person game to differentiate and sitting through who's real, who's nods,
Speaker 13: who's in it just for the show.
Speaker 3: So who do I need to speak to? Is really
Speaker 3: hard to navigating, and only because I was interested in
Speaker 3: it already is wife and build. But I could easily see.
Speaker 13: Somebody from my side going they're not taking a serious
Speaker 13: so why should I? Because they happen to come across
Speaker 13: the wrong people right from the get go. But if
Speaker 13: they happen to come across the white person, then hey,
Speaker 13: you got another scientific person trying to through research. Sure
Speaker 13: cause I talked with some people at work about this
Speaker 13: and they immediately made.
Speaker 3: These of course car So then when I first.
Speaker 14: Ideals with some of the things I had, and I'd
Speaker 14: all tested that.
Speaker 3: Labor critancy with hey, what do you think is this right?
Speaker 3: And they're like, what is that problem?
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not gonna tell you.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we do most of the.
Speaker 14: Things, and I have had a fumble tell them, yeah,
Speaker 14: those are as a little er and.
Speaker 3: The uh tellble bring came from and they're like playing
Speaker 3: off to do it. But the part of the problem
Speaker 3: is to be entertainment. It's all super fun. Sometimes you
Speaker 3: could get a turn off before it was it's hard
Speaker 3: to find the lifeline to the visor.
Speaker 5: Sure, but it wasn't really big part like how do
Speaker 5: we bring in new researchers whether we be like or not, because.
Speaker 3: I'm fa I love it.
Speaker 10: They have the attention of this generation.
Speaker 3: Oh no, without of do we could figure out how
Speaker 3: to guide them correctly that I think we have a
Speaker 3: rescue for success.
Speaker 16: But that's so it was those kind of cause I'm
Speaker 16: gonna put you guys, it's partly be entertained, but part
Speaker 16: of the big I'd make no qualms.
Speaker 17: About the fact that I know my show was about
Speaker 17: entertaining people tune in to be entertained by the store
Speaker 17: that I collect.
Speaker 18: But I'm also a very serious researcher. I'm serious about
Speaker 18: the research. I'm serious about the subject, so I have
Speaker 18: to do my best to read through that for the
Speaker 18: people who.
Speaker 3: Listen to my show.
Speaker 18: I make no qualms when I put something out that's
Speaker 18: for entertainment. I write stories sometimes on my podcast. I
Speaker 18: just released a story about Bigfoot killing the serial killer
Speaker 18: for entertainment because it was protecting the people. That's the
Speaker 18: kind of stuff that.
Speaker 3: Does bring in the younger generation.
Speaker 2: But I agree with you.
Speaker 18: I think people need to do a better job of
Speaker 18: selecting the entertainment that you are consuming in.
Speaker 17: The community and do a better job of supporting.
Speaker 18: Those people who are serious about the research. So it
Speaker 18: goes back to the people in the community that may
Speaker 18: not be researchers. Maybe they're just interested in the subject.
Speaker 18: Maybe they just consume the podcast that I put out
Speaker 18: or one of the other a thousand out there. But
Speaker 18: that's where I see a divide because when I, as
Speaker 18: a podcaster, have dipped my toe into the serious research.
Speaker 3: That's why I have problems.
Speaker 14: People have no problem with me as.
Speaker 18: An entertainer and a podcaster, but when I present evidence
Speaker 18: casts that I've made or experiences that I've had, people
Speaker 18: are like, oh, you're the bigfoot guy. Now you're casting
Speaker 18: big book brands. Wow, I'm totally aware of. So there's
Speaker 18: a lot of people I think that are are entertainment
Speaker 18: that are serious about the research, but some of them.
Speaker 3: Just stick to what works because there is some stigma
Speaker 3: community about what you can't do both, but I think
Speaker 3: you can't.
Speaker 14: There is a fine line.
Speaker 18: But it goes back to the people that are assuming
Speaker 18: that content. So it's a two way street. It's the
Speaker 18: people putting out that content. There are people actually put
Speaker 18: out other stuff. They know that they're hoaxing things, they
Speaker 18: know they're just they're people plain they're there.
Speaker 3: For cliques, but there's a reason they do.
Speaker 17: The community comes back, they click, they watch, they consume, and.
Speaker 18: That frankly bothers me because I try not to do
Speaker 18: that as part of that community, entertaining part of it.
Speaker 3: So it's a two way street. I think it brings
Speaker 3: people in, It brings that next generation in.
Speaker 10: But we have to be received question in.
Speaker 18: The way that we're doing it, be as a content
Speaker 18: creator or anybody who creates content and then the people
Speaker 18: who consume it. So we have to have a more
Speaker 18: symbiotic relationship in my opinion to make that happen, because
Speaker 18: I think it's a necessary able to Christ's try.
Speaker 3: I think that would be good question. We need to
Speaker 3: entertainment part to bring people in.
Speaker 18: Oh, absolutely agree, but we have to be more responsible
Speaker 18: with what we're putting out there, and as consumers, you
Speaker 18: have to be a responsible consumer out of that content.
Speaker 3: So thank you for that one question. That's all the
Speaker 3: time we have to go. All right, we're moving on.
Speaker 10: We'll start here.
Speaker 3: You're gonna this one.
Speaker 11: When someone shares an encounter with you, what criteria do
Speaker 11: you use to determine if they are being honest, be
Speaker 11: careful what you say.
Speaker 3: I'm all.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned for more sasquat ch'able to see right back
Speaker 4: after the East messages.
Speaker 3: Uh so you know what, I I do have to
Speaker 3: get a deal.
Speaker 13: Pretty card on them because uh, I actually don't interview
Speaker 13: people for or for those kind of things.
Speaker 3: I am professionally trained to interviewer bugs.
Speaker 13: I've been spold of. The method that I would use
Speaker 13: for talking to that person is not necessarily inducing.
Speaker 19: I would like to have them not er home.
Speaker 13: For uh, because time I talk to a view and
Speaker 13: what they want is they want to interview them whether
Speaker 13: they're the most comfortable in the living room or outside
Speaker 13: or something like that.
Speaker 3: That's the exact opposite of the training that I ever see.
Speaker 13: I think you have to treat witnesses when the kid
Speaker 13: loves because we're talking about possible traumatic issues and I'm.
Speaker 14: Not specifically trained for feeling to feel psychologically with that
Speaker 14: I am trained with interviewing.
Speaker 3: Witness is kind of the problems to run across the
Speaker 3: witness is with machority my career is that they want
Speaker 3: to be hopeful, and.
Speaker 13: That's the biggest problem is you started to ask questions
Speaker 13: and immediately they didn't think of that detail or they
Speaker 13: realized they didn't get.
Speaker 3: That detail, but they wanted to be helpful, so they
Speaker 3: had happened.
Speaker 13: And it's tough to just type group between the have
Speaker 13: truths it. The troop will always in there, but most
Speaker 13: of the times of coll but this.
Speaker 20: Is they just want to be helpful, and they don't
Speaker 20: realize that you wanted that particular impremation. So it's really
Speaker 20: tough because you have to feel in the kid gloves
Speaker 20: because everyeople want to fight, and it's different.
Speaker 13: They experienced different things. They're gonna handle the traumatic stress.
Speaker 3: But I don't get a witnesses alright, so ah, they're
Speaker 3: probably a good thing.
Speaker 19: So there you go.
Speaker 3: I rambled it. Oh okay, now I only have ten seconds,
Speaker 3: so here we go.
Speaker 15: I wouldn't say I'm not a trained psychologist, therapist or
Speaker 15: any of that.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know.
Speaker 10: I've interviewed thousands of people working out there. But if
Speaker 10: I started off to hear I'm not every single one
Speaker 10: of you that came through the door, that's I would stop.
Speaker 15: And tell me their story because they were too scared
Speaker 15: to saying on the stands Now, with that said, I
Speaker 15: would say, here are some things that I would believe
Speaker 15: the person one, first responders, people that work that could
Speaker 15: have lost their job or be truly shamed.
Speaker 10: That are now retired to come forward and gotta listen.
Speaker 10: I've been waiting for thirty years to say this.
Speaker 3: Here we go. I tend to believe them. I tend
Speaker 3: to believe anyone.
Speaker 11: That bef As they're getting ready to tell me the story,
Speaker 11: they shudder, a hair stands up when there are they get.
Speaker 15: Goosebumps, their pupil's dilay and you're like, wow, if you're
Speaker 15: a if, could.
Speaker 5: You tell me there's classically trained Julia and actors and
Speaker 5: actresses that come to these events just gonna mess with me.
Speaker 3: Sure, but that's the people I tend to believe. And
Speaker 3: that's about all I can tell you.
Speaker 5: Outside of that, I remember, trust me, honest person, I
Speaker 5: why would you tell me a lot?
Speaker 10: So I wouldn't say I'm the best suggest people.
Speaker 5: But if there are physical things that happen to their
Speaker 5: body when they're telling you, and it actually spooks them
Speaker 5: to go back to the moment that.
Speaker 12: Could have happened turty years ago, I'd say, feeling someone
Speaker 12: telling the truth, you want to go next story?
Speaker 3: You want to get a paspated, I'll go.
Speaker 18: I've probably interviewed over a thousand people at this point
Speaker 18: for the podcast, and I to have a law enforcement background.
Speaker 18: I was a COB for sixteen years, so I had
Speaker 18: to check that at the door, because when I started the.
Speaker 3: Podcast, I did not want to.
Speaker 17: Be the interrogator of people that had Bigfoot experiences.
Speaker 3: So I know what you're saying. You have to definitely
Speaker 3: check that at the door.
Speaker 18: But as far as believing people, for me, it's very
Speaker 18: much like Ryan said, it's it's body language, it's eye
Speaker 18: contact to a whole big cues, and I'm a drained interrogator,
Speaker 18: so even not interrogating people.
Speaker 3: You have to pick up on those cues. But here's
Speaker 3: the thing. I've never had anybody on my show.
Speaker 18: If you've ever listened to one of the six hundred
Speaker 18: plus episodes of my podcast, I've never interviewed anybody in
Speaker 18: viewing the episode where I did not believe that person
Speaker 18: believed that they had their experience.
Speaker 17: Sometimes it probably happened in their mind.
Speaker 4: That happens, but.
Speaker 17: Most of the time it's a physical So it's a
Speaker 17: fine line. But I have made it clear to anybody
Speaker 17: who comes on my shit over has a conversation with
Speaker 17: me a person, I'm not here to get tell it.
Speaker 21: I'm just here to get tell you for you to
Speaker 21: tell your story. And I think that's important for people
Speaker 21: to feel like people believe again, whether it happen in
Speaker 21: real life for them or not, if they believe it.
Speaker 21: I think it's worth here the story and documenting that
Speaker 21: story because there's data to be mine from every story.
Speaker 21: You said earlier that the truth is always in.
Speaker 18: Some things can filled in, the brain fills it in subconsciously,
Speaker 18: consciously that the truth is always there.
Speaker 3: So that's why I document every story that's ever been
Speaker 3: told to me, because I think it's powerful and I
Speaker 3: think it's important to hear those stories. I don't think
Speaker 3: there's any magic wand you can wait to just know
Speaker 3: people who are telling the truth. I think it's the feel.
Speaker 3: It's a good thing. But I think after you have
Speaker 3: a conversation with most.
Speaker 18: People, if they truly believe that they had that experience
Speaker 18: about and that's really.
Speaker 3: The lift stets for me.
Speaker 17: If they truly believe that they had that experience.
Speaker 3: It's a real experience. Now you can grab my throat,
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't recommend it anyway. Sorry.
Speaker 8: So, starting back in two thousand and thirteen, I really
Speaker 8: started want to really dove deep into this. Once my
Speaker 8: name got out locally, I started getting lots of calls
Speaker 8: and going out and meeting people that that had had
Speaker 8: sightings and whatnot. And one of the things that I
Speaker 8: picked up picked up on immediately was when they're telling
Speaker 8: me what happened, is emotional response, the hair on their
Speaker 8: arms standing up or goose bumps, eyes watering occasionally, and
Speaker 8: then lack of details. My first experience when I was
Speaker 8: ten years old, I looked at this thing directly in
Speaker 8: the face for fifteen seconds and I couldn't tell you
Speaker 8: the details of its face.
Speaker 1: I had more details while I was walking.
Speaker 8: Away than I did looking at it like face to
Speaker 8: face for thirty feet and it was because of the
Speaker 8: shock of the situation. So when people start telling given
Speaker 8: me like amazing details, I tend to start going. And
Speaker 8: it's not that some people some people's brains work differently,
Speaker 8: But most of the time, the people that I'm more
Speaker 8: likely to believe had less details and they have some kind.
Speaker 9: Of emotional response when they're telling me the story. That's
Speaker 9: been the main couple things that I can attach it to.
Speaker 7: Oh, I too come from a law enforcement background, almost
Speaker 7: twenty years in law enforcement, and I tend to approach
Speaker 7: things a little differently.
Speaker 3: I will listen to anybody's story. I've collected thousands over
Speaker 3: the years.
Speaker 7: I've been researching since the late seventies, But there are
Speaker 7: certain key things I watch for in their body language
Speaker 7: that you're talking about is exactly what I look for.
Speaker 7: But I don't treat an interview as an interrogation. But
Speaker 7: that many years I still look for the same visual cues.
Speaker 7: There's the thing that you can look this up. Anybody
Speaker 7: can read about it. It's called neural linguistic programming. And
Speaker 7: once you've studied and healthy, you will not look at
Speaker 7: other humans the same. You just will not because you
Speaker 7: can learn everything you can you need to know about
Speaker 7: the type of person you're dealing with in the first
Speaker 7: ten seconds of the conversation because they will tell you
Speaker 7: not in words, their body language will tell you whether
Speaker 7: you need to be cautious, whether you need to be
Speaker 7: on alert, whether you need to keep your distance. There's
Speaker 7: going to be a lot of those little visual cues
Speaker 7: that you're gonna pick up just instantly. And that's a
Speaker 7: litmus test I use because in the cases like they're
Speaker 7: talking about, where people that have some people call them
Speaker 7: chili bumps or goosebumps. So you see someone with goosebumps
Speaker 7: or the hair on the armstand on end. They have
Speaker 7: a visceral reaction. When you're telling me the story that's
Speaker 7: a great indicator that something bad happened and they're still
Speaker 7: having trouble reliving. At Fred Roll from Alaska. When I
Speaker 7: interviewed Fred, Fred broke down. He literally broke down. His
Speaker 7: dogs climbed in his lap, was checking on him if
Speaker 7: he was okay. When he was relating what happened to him.
Speaker 7: I think it was on the I can't remember the
Speaker 7: name of the river. It's a river in the outback
Speaker 7: of where he had his encounter was like twenty miles
Speaker 7: up river, nowhere near a town at their winter cabin,
Speaker 7: and he literally shook and had to take a minute
Speaker 7: to compose himself fit to finish telling the story. Little
Speaker 7: things like that are obvious indicators, But there are the
Speaker 7: things like within one week eye contact if you ask
Speaker 7: them a question. Generally, the perception is if somebody asks
Speaker 7: you a question to access memory, you tend to look
Speaker 7: down to the left, But if if you're making it up,
Speaker 7: you tend to look up into the right. So if
Speaker 7: somebody is telling you a story and they go right
Speaker 7: off the bat, they're looking to make up a detail.
Speaker 7: But something I've also noticed with eyewitnesses, and this is
Speaker 7: from investigating armed robberies domestic assaults, anything, any of the
Speaker 7: crimes we've had to deal with. You interview five witnesses,
Speaker 7: you're going to get five slightly different stories every time,
Speaker 7: and they'll be describing the same person. You'll get five
Speaker 7: different versions. So you've got to wade through even the
Speaker 7: eyewitness stuff to find which is an embellishment, which is
Speaker 7: just something they're filling in, and which are the actual
Speaker 7: hard facts. So if I were doing an interview with
Speaker 7: these four guys and they had watched What's the Armed Robbery,
Speaker 7: I might get a slightly different version. But what I
Speaker 7: look at is those commonalities, Oh, he was about five
Speaker 7: foot six or a blue hat, and the next guy
Speaker 7: goes he was about six foot two and had a
Speaker 7: red jacket on. Okay, those are the kind of details
Speaker 7: that people will transpose. But if you've got all four
Speaker 7: guys that say he was about medium, medium build and
Speaker 7: had a Jack Daniels T shirt on, but then they
Speaker 7: say a flannel jacket and other stuff like that. But
Speaker 7: those core elements, like the Jack Daniels shirt, medium height,
Speaker 7: and build, those are the things you look for the commonalities.
Speaker 7: So that's what I try to go into with every
Speaker 7: interview I do, and Now, I don't try to run
Speaker 7: it like an interrogation.
Speaker 18: I just observe.
Speaker 7: I'll let them tell their story, and even the stories
Speaker 7: that may seem on the surface to be out there,
Speaker 7: you're still going to find something in those stories to
Speaker 7: learn from. There's been lots of people in this field
Speaker 7: that I have a tremendous amount of respect for that
Speaker 7: we have completely different views on and if I don't
Speaker 7: think of them as any less of a researcher, we
Speaker 7: just don't agree. And it's just one of the things
Speaker 7: this field needs to accept that we don't have to
Speaker 7: agree one hundred percent because you know how many experts
Speaker 7: there on this field.
Speaker 11: None All right, Now, I don't like my belt that Yeah,
Speaker 11: this is great, So we're gonna try and answer.
Speaker 3: Them a little queer, just so you know.
Speaker 10: And and by the way, if any of you have
Speaker 10: anything that you add, because this is.
Speaker 11: Interactive, we love you guys, please be like listen, I
Speaker 11: was in law enforcement for.
Speaker 4: And just drop.
Speaker 3: Okay. So the next one is do you think the
Speaker 3: sam swash now.
Speaker 22: Sasquash has a location abilities like orphis and or infrason
Speaker 22: sounds like tigers paralyzed folks or to disrupt all ads.
Speaker 3: And we will start at the end of the sunset.
Speaker 7: I don't know about the disrupting electronics. I haven't had
Speaker 7: I haven't observed that firsthand. But I think a lot
Speaker 7: of the reasons why we don't see as many Bigfoot
Speaker 7: or even dog man for that matter, as they spend
Speaker 7: a lot of time underground and one at One of
Speaker 7: the things I believe one of the reasons I believe
Speaker 7: that they have have developed a form of limited eco
Speaker 7: location is because there there are people who were born
Speaker 7: blind who have taught themselves to write bicycles by clicking
Speaker 7: their tongue. And whenever we go out in the field,
Speaker 7: I go I get a response almost every time. And
Speaker 7: if you do that in a cave, it work, It'll
Speaker 7: work just like a co location.
Speaker 14: Amazing.
Speaker 3: That was kind of responds to going forward.
Speaker 1: I've actually dipped into this quite a bit.
Speaker 8: I'm an ex musician, so I spent I spent about
Speaker 8: a year trying to figure out how to go about
Speaker 8: looking into the whole infrasound situation. And it's very possible
Speaker 8: to pick it up in the field with the right equipment,
Speaker 8: and it's very possible to take that infrasound into the
Speaker 8: studio and up pitch it.
Speaker 1: If you can capture it, it's it's.
Speaker 8: Just a matter of the money to do it, basically,
Speaker 8: and having a couple pieces of the pieces of equipment
Speaker 8: built that would be needed. I went through this theory
Speaker 8: early on, like back in two thousand fifteen, just looking
Speaker 8: into everybody's theories and trying to narrow them down to
Speaker 8: possibilities and not possible, And this is one of them
Speaker 8: that I spend a lot of time on and I
Speaker 8: think it's I think it's possible.
Speaker 1: I think it's very possible.
Speaker 8: Actually, it would explain things like them picking out trail cameras.
Speaker 8: If they're using infrasound and pushing it out through the forest,
Speaker 8: you're gonna get a different bounce back off of things
Speaker 8: that are plastic and metal versus trees and natural things.
Speaker 8: So it would help explain some of those things, like
Speaker 8: how are they seeing trail cameras during the day and
Speaker 8: at night if you're not using irs.
Speaker 9: A lot of people think they can possibly see the.
Speaker 3: I our lights.
Speaker 8: It could be a possible way that they're picking things
Speaker 8: like that out in the forest and they're able to
Speaker 8: discern which.
Speaker 9: Way to go and which way not to go, So
Speaker 9: I'm fifty to fifty on it.
Speaker 19: It's not why if some people started a reserved place
Speaker 19: on the woods and they all of a sudden they
Speaker 19: feel as terrific fear and they don't know why they're
Speaker 19: failing of a they they feel fear. So some of
Speaker 19: there those those column them that feel some metal siun.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I wouldn't say that, I ProSound is necessarily the
Speaker 8: cause of that all the time, because top the experienced
Speaker 8: hunters who've been hunting all their lives and when a
Speaker 8: predator is around you, you feel it, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: it's I think it's just the time in the woods
Speaker 8: per se.
Speaker 9: And I think more people, some people are more tapped
Speaker 9: into that feeling.
Speaker 1: Than others are. So I can't always push, like im
Speaker 1: ProSound or something like that into that kind of.
Speaker 8: Situation because I had that myself, Like I've been in
Speaker 8: the woods many times before I ever got into this
Speaker 8: and felt the presence of something bad and five minutes
Speaker 8: later spotted a cougar.
Speaker 9: That was thirty yards from us.
Speaker 1: So I've experienced that side of it myself.
Speaker 19: Is on expedition big Foot. While the earlier episodes, well,
Speaker 19: somebody in the group got really sick, like they had
Speaker 19: removed you from the side.
Speaker 17: Yes, and they've ended on that.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, that's west anyone.
Speaker 10: I think I just constantly stopped looking for me.
Speaker 3: I mean, it would be cool, and that would be
Speaker 3: imprascinate time.
Speaker 10: Here I be clubbing for the last gold in.
Speaker 3: The highlands of Guiana.
Speaker 11: I don't moved that up later, you know where one
Speaker 11: of their chum slavery and I went to the next show.
Speaker 3: That don't work on. I just had my first child.
Speaker 10: I can't believe anyone allowed me to have a child.
Speaker 3: And I also was stepping up into a pro position.
Speaker 11: And in the name of unfortunately in the field, and
Speaker 11: and I think all of that destroyed me temporarily.
Speaker 10: I never had a headache before, and never a min
Speaker 10: but never had migrants.
Speaker 3: I had all nine versions of the migrate.
Speaker 10: At the same I was literally seeing into another dimension.
Speaker 10: It was wild and then gone. So they asked me
Speaker 10: because at that point in my career I.
Speaker 3: Was very fascinating it for some goot frequency sound. Because
Speaker 3: if you want to communicate.
Speaker 5: Across the Urian sports, across a great distance of that sports,
Speaker 5: you need.
Speaker 3: These ways, not these ways, And so it is a
Speaker 3: smart way to.
Speaker 11: Communicate and and made people say that around you, and
Speaker 11: they're gonna if they have this ability, that's what they're
Speaker 11: doing when they're watching.
Speaker 23: When we gotta go.
Speaker 10: Camping, am I think if they're there, they're gonna.
Speaker 3: Use it to talk.
Speaker 11: And now to hit upon the unnerving feeling, there's a
Speaker 11: gentleman called doctor Rupert Sheltering, and he's done all these
Speaker 11: wonderful experiments.
Speaker 3: And not to peek out too much on it, but basically,
Speaker 3: if I always trained to be a security guard the.
Speaker 11: Mall, one of the things they will train you is
Speaker 11: when they're watching the cameras and you're seeing someone and
Speaker 11: they're about to shop lives.
Speaker 10: One of my daughters is definitely com gonna be someday.
Speaker 11: They tell you never stare at the person, Okay, which
Speaker 11: is weird, but never stare.
Speaker 3: It because for no reason whatsoever, and you're looking through
Speaker 3: another medium, they'll turn to look at the camera. Why
Speaker 3: so just sitting there for a moment, why.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 4: right back after these messages.
Speaker 11: And so what this gentleman Doctorm Sheltering says, is that
Speaker 11: looking when Matt Cooper was looking at you on.
Speaker 3: A microscopic level is actually you're le trunks are touching.
Speaker 16: You're physically being touched by it, but on such a
Speaker 16: small level that because really it registers as instinct.
Speaker 10: Or awareness as opposed to this.
Speaker 3: So anyway, that's just a funny dog you can look
Speaker 3: into and whatnot, But that could be.
Speaker 11: That undert and feelings that you're being stared at it
Speaker 11: and it's touching beside addressing concept, Hey sorry not can shelter.
Speaker 3: You got a great book called the Feet.
Speaker 18: The Phenomena of being stared at or you can literally
Speaker 18: do that by your dog.
Speaker 17: I'm trying to let my dogs at home. Ye stare
Speaker 17: at the dogs while they're asleep on the couch. Ninety
Speaker 17: eight percent of five they'll look at it because they
Speaker 17: feel you stared.
Speaker 11: So that's what I think.
Speaker 8: If anybody has kids up, sure most of you of
Speaker 8: woke up early morning or middle of the night and yeah,
Speaker 8: and they're right here, and it wakes you up from
Speaker 8: my dad's sleep.
Speaker 13: I drove up on great weight on Oh, I would
Speaker 13: like to say that I'm halfway through that Moviator's visioned.
Speaker 14: Or you usual and you on all of that I've
Speaker 14: hadn't known experiences, but.
Speaker 3: When you say out of the Turkey hunder and I've
Speaker 3: been tall, But the.
Speaker 14: Science is behind everything they just said.
Speaker 13: And honestly, with the things that I've experienced and with
Speaker 13: everything that they're talking.
Speaker 3: About that I can be backed up my science I
Speaker 3: have or big would that possibly happen for?
Speaker 14: So why not m And you can't prove they don't
Speaker 14: right now?
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be the only animal that is.
Speaker 13: The science is there to back up that. It's a possibility.
Speaker 13: So I'm one hundred percent on board.
Speaker 14: But it's a possibility and I would love to see more.
Speaker 11: But like you said before, the money is you canna imagine, right,
Speaker 11: Imagine if you're eight hundred pounds, gonna be tall, and
Speaker 11: you don't have to be shown cell phones, and you're
Speaker 11: living true to nature, and you're gonna be able to
Speaker 11: make that.
Speaker 3: Amazing sound that you're made. You're gonna be mungoing, road singing.
Speaker 3: You're gonna make every.
Speaker 11: Animal in the woods, and you're big enough like tigers
Speaker 11: and or you know, to potentially use it.
Speaker 3: But it's wife.
Speaker 10: I think it's like, so I I let y'all knows
Speaker 10: something I wanna do with.
Speaker 11: So I started doing research when I was working on
Speaker 11: fucking Bigfoot, and I found a gentleman.
Speaker 3: And here's actually what I really wanna do, cause I'm
Speaker 3: cause I'm of the seven.
Speaker 11: Although I can can see because we're all in this
Speaker 11: for ourselves to everyone else, right, that's the old guard.
Speaker 3: Oh, I wanted to build a rant.
Speaker 11: There was a gentleman I found who was actually built
Speaker 11: in mobile in for sound of your body devices and drums,
Speaker 11: and I reached out to him and I said this
Speaker 11: was a test mom that hadn't done again.
Speaker 3: And I said, this is genius. This is cause I
Speaker 3: think they used and that's what I could use.
Speaker 11: So I would love to go to a researcher like
Speaker 11: before my grade can set them up around it to triangulate, and.
Speaker 3: Then as you get recording you begin to hear it.
Speaker 11: It could potentially track them because with infra sound, there's
Speaker 11: three Okay, to have environmental like earthquakes and.
Speaker 12: Stuff you have like big diesel engines and stuff like that,
Speaker 12: and you have animals making in sounds.
Speaker 3: I mean North America with the Allitator.
Speaker 10: As far as I now, it's the only one.
Speaker 11: So as long as you're up here, you shouldn't be
Speaker 11: finals as an alliant farm, and all the machine would
Speaker 11: do is tell you which one it.
Speaker 10: Is, and if it says animal.
Speaker 11: When you're in a big foot to habitat where you're
Speaker 11: having experiences, you.
Speaker 3: Could potentially track it. And I think we could set
Speaker 3: up a big enough array we could finally find a
Speaker 3: migrational group.
Speaker 10: See, I'm getting chilled. When I feel like I wanted
Speaker 10: to some thing, I get chilled.
Speaker 3: It just feels right.
Speaker 8: And I justine imagine being able to up pitch that
Speaker 8: and listen to it in our hearing spectrum.
Speaker 3: It seemed to be amazing the tea. Why I shouldn't
Speaker 3: hold onto that?
Speaker 10: Why is your shit? These, your cheese and your juice
Speaker 10: pass to it?
Speaker 8: Anyway?
Speaker 17: Sooner when you can come bay out, sooner we can
Speaker 17: put your out.
Speaker 3: What you da in misty? So I don't that sounds why? Okay, go,
Speaker 3: We're gonna all right, this one's great? Who has smelled one?
Speaker 6: We're just gonna sell that.
Speaker 3: Who has smelled one?
Speaker 13: It's that?
Speaker 3: And this goes to everybody. You smell it, you smell it, you.
Speaker 15: At to tell you know that a lot of people
Speaker 15: talk about I actually had to pusk being on my property.
Speaker 3: And so that's where they're having to utilize the stain
Speaker 3: ways to tell people that I, I don't know what
Speaker 3: you did on my side of the fence. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Do you think they're also able to with there was
Speaker 3: at the apples have operated lays to actually secret that's
Speaker 3: amount of leaf. Okay, that guerrillas do it. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: I watched my awn mice duds for me, if you're
Speaker 3: dealing with skun lanes, that's giving you all over you
Speaker 3: and your instant like yeah, but wouldn't be my net.
Speaker 3: But so were just repeat that.
Speaker 13: Wo oh I I was you mab when they're the
Speaker 13: conductor resurgery now and now.
Speaker 14: The stationary even got took me on a tour and
Speaker 14: I had five that came down.
Speaker 3: They were all around showing their teeth and they were
Speaker 3: and yeah, it kind of strict to this whole dude,
Speaker 3: Yeah really, but I got to see a first hand
Speaker 3: after pretty grills.
Speaker 11: I but not not the saldy that they could also
Speaker 11: be using scoms use the type of life and that is.
Speaker 10: And that's a small that we definitely don't wanna go
Speaker 10: and sounds like a great problem.
Speaker 3: I think skunks in the experiment. Oh yeah, I prot experiment.
Speaker 11: And you should the way back or oh yeah it
Speaker 11: was going on video right, Okay, ever you heard well
Speaker 11: one to come after that tap?
Speaker 3: Who has seen or was you're of that, sir?
Speaker 24: I mean I've seen it both the play, the eight
Speaker 24: in and the bear ball, and I've know there are
Speaker 24: certain people like wis you general you've seen and.
Speaker 14: Deal with gripted I personally have it.
Speaker 3: I lived way back in the woods.
Speaker 24: Yes, I lived at the mill nowhere and I literally
Speaker 24: had gets.
Speaker 7: His Internet by dogs slave right.
Speaker 3: I clearly had the orbs and out of the woods.
Speaker 24: Felt like he gets to feel like shoot at meeting
Speaker 24: it when I fell on the ground and shot straight
Speaker 24: back up.
Speaker 3: I think horse and paranormal side of it.
Speaker 24: I've dealt with that, which I don't get some kicks
Speaker 24: off by other on my security system or what time
Speaker 24: of the periods.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ords are very nice. Thanks to you for sure.
Speaker 3: Somebody there's your others.
Speaker 23: Kay, got that's I saw on order once, but it
Speaker 23: wasn't out in the woods or it was almost.
Speaker 19: Down in my driveway like I was out there cleaning
Speaker 19: out of my car and I just happened from the one.
Speaker 3: It was just some I it's hard to tell how.
Speaker 19: I think something is when it's up in the air.
Speaker 19: But I was moving from side to side trying to
Speaker 19: tear it out, or where is that thing? And hop,
Speaker 19: uh high up there is it and it was it
Speaker 19: seemed to me remind me like a size little small
Speaker 19: car or something.
Speaker 17: And it was only there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was before I even know what At that time.
Speaker 17: My thought was a U follow would.
Speaker 19: Doesn't even looks like the flying saucer. Stuffy they were around.
Speaker 19: It's okay, it can't read. You have followed and and
Speaker 19: it it was only there for maybe ten cycles for
Speaker 19: some and they just shot it off really fast.
Speaker 8: It was just not a way to have a sort
Speaker 8: I'll throw this out I'll you wanna go ahead, I'll
Speaker 8: throw this out there.
Speaker 3: I'll try to make it quick.
Speaker 1: A geologist that I was put in touch with at
Speaker 1: one point.
Speaker 8: His job was to find high energy areas and go
Speaker 8: out according to satellites and then go out on foot
Speaker 8: find these areas on foot and take actual readings in
Speaker 8: the environment itself.
Speaker 1: And he started having big foot.
Speaker 8: Sightings and started having a lot of weird things happened
Speaker 8: after he had his second siding, he reached out to
Speaker 8: a friend of mine and he would go to all
Speaker 8: these high energy areas and weird things would happen orbes
Speaker 8: is a part of that long story short. I gave
Speaker 8: him the county that the four hundred is in, and
Speaker 8: there were two high energy spots and the four hundred
Speaker 8: was one of them.
Speaker 1: So I sent him the county that my previous research
Speaker 1: area was in.
Speaker 9: Is the only high energy spot in that county.
Speaker 8: So with saying that I have a hard time putting
Speaker 8: orbs in Bigfoot together, I think there may be a
Speaker 8: correlation in the high energy areas and that they may
Speaker 8: be attracted to those areas for some reason, whether it
Speaker 8: be geological or maybe minerals that are in the particular
Speaker 8: kind of stone that's creating these anomalies, if that makes sense.
Speaker 7: Just holds a lot of energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just my thoughts.
Speaker 8: And I thought i'd throw that out there because I
Speaker 8: thought it was very interesting that he had never had
Speaker 8: any sightings, any experiences, and when he got put.
Speaker 1: On this particular job, he started.
Speaker 9: Having these experiences and these sightings.
Speaker 3: How any findgiers through satellite?
Speaker 8: Yeah, the government government satellites and then they would send
Speaker 8: him out.
Speaker 1: In the field to take readings there. I can't it's
Speaker 1: really interesting. It's really interesting.
Speaker 9: There's a place I won't say the name because they're
Speaker 9: trying to keep.
Speaker 8: It on the download right now, but they have a
Speaker 8: heavy presence of orbs and there's geologically everything is there
Speaker 8: to create orbs.
Speaker 9: They have them on video, they have on camera.
Speaker 8: They have video of rocks literally disappearing and showing up
Speaker 8: ten feet away.
Speaker 9: The size or they vary anything from this big to
Speaker 9: this big, so they.
Speaker 1: Are having bigfoot experiences.
Speaker 3: Also, this is a general radical just so you know,
Speaker 3: and we I won't spend too much.
Speaker 14: Time on it, but I will give uh got a.
Speaker 11: Blend of my brother works for Guya who you would
Speaker 11: stay there on the scene to live at the louver
Speaker 11: sphere which m is a normal source or and put
Speaker 11: dance on a.
Speaker 3: Ladys On and they're doing research on that now. There's
Speaker 3: lots of fascinating things about the design event. And he
Speaker 3: looked on the under an autonomic microscope. I was actually
Speaker 3: structured in the building, so that's something we were look into.
Speaker 3: And also if you are real terres in this as.
Speaker 11: A general named Patrick Jackson, you did a a book
Speaker 11: called quantumly parent normal.
Speaker 3: He is a reverse engineer and IT specialist, So smart fella.
Speaker 11: And the long story short, He grew up in a
Speaker 11: village where there was this blackmum that would.
Speaker 3: Walk across the street because everybody knew, everybody saw it
Speaker 3: was just normal.
Speaker 11: And one day cause something thing he was thinking, He's like,
Speaker 11: what it feels like a loop and so when he
Speaker 11: saw that, he goes.
Speaker 14: I think this is technology.
Speaker 3: I don't think this is spiritual or anything like that.
Speaker 16: So if you're open to what I'm about to say,
Speaker 16: the lill be easier to digests.
Speaker 3: But in a nutshell, these spears are part of of
Speaker 3: something that they're monitoring.
Speaker 10: Uh So imagine where we live. It's a giant boom,
Speaker 10: but the snowballs. It's just wide open and it just
Speaker 10: keeps track of the data.
Speaker 3: It records.
Speaker 10: It monitors the DNA on us and that's why we
Speaker 10: have a lot of these interactions.
Speaker 3: And great guns and spooky places and whatnot.
Speaker 10: And anyway, a bigger monitor us. So when you see
Speaker 10: them in conjunction with the big foot or your first
Speaker 10: story is of bigfoot people.
Speaker 11: Watching it, and it seems to cloak or phase outs
Speaker 11: fors tracks.
Speaker 3: Just vantage what The reason we don't get.
Speaker 10: It is because I think we start with flesh and
Speaker 10: mode right to start with.
Speaker 3: The real animal. What if there's more in place?
Speaker 11: What if there's a technology that uses technologies that our
Speaker 11: government has.
Speaker 10: Now that intercepts.
Speaker 11: So as we're having the Cinerati's to zoo animals that
Speaker 11: should be interacting we see each other, it intercepts, and
Speaker 11: then to it can block the noise and can block
Speaker 11: the visual and whatnot. So I know I could sun
Speaker 11: rise and read the book Corner Paranormal and they change
Speaker 11: your mind, and if you're interested in origins, years change
Speaker 11: my whole thing.
Speaker 3: I used to scare out all.
Speaker 10: The houses, like going now and I'm cooler.
Speaker 3: It stops and I'm going ryding. Tonight I had his
Speaker 3: first hurest I think the third generation tap.
Speaker 10: I took it all into the woods cause he believed that.
Speaker 3: I think what you are experienced when it's the big foot,
Speaker 3: ghosts and.
Speaker 10: Even phos are most of the time these words expears.
Speaker 3: And every time I took that thing into the woods,
Speaker 3: like three sixty parascope to light up because they give
Speaker 3: off a stat of charge.
Speaker 11: Soon gets away from the their Okay, we can be
Speaker 11: for a natty person, or I wanna go too far?
Speaker 18: If you don't read this book, if you listen to
Speaker 18: Sasquatch out to see episode of ninety tis.
Speaker 20: Alright?
Speaker 3: Looking? How many want of time? You're okay?
Speaker 2: Is everything?
Speaker 24: Okay?
Speaker 3: You just gonna let us know cause this is fun?
Speaker 3: I let having a good time?
Speaker 8: Is it?
Speaker 3: Alright? We got fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes? Okay, we'll try it.
Speaker 3: How for this one, just one or two people take
Speaker 3: the question, if you feel compelled to swing with yours
Speaker 3: just jumping around?
Speaker 11: Okay, what issues do you see when big what it
Speaker 11: is finally proved to be real to.
Speaker 3: The scientific community?
Speaker 14: What issues we didn't mean to effect it?
Speaker 3: It's like, oh h no, I'll try.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 14: I I think immedia is gonna happen if I if they.
Speaker 3: Were moved, that they were real. Is whatever land or
Speaker 3: on is now only can you speak huhr as a.
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 13: Whatever land that they're proving to be honest now often
Speaker 13: is the most like amos become the government willst of it.
Speaker 3: They will come to me. Only certain signs will have access,
Speaker 3: And I think might that I think it will change this?
Speaker 14: Are are thin there's I hate to say it, but
Speaker 14: and there.
Speaker 13: A mystery sometimes needed to help people to move and
Speaker 13: take that away.
Speaker 24: It might ask fun to talk about scorning to see hu, yeah,
Speaker 24: is that why the government?
Speaker 3: No the maybe it is real?
Speaker 19: Or keep putting on a same credit because I see
Speaker 19: this has been of it problem so solid or what society?
Speaker 19: And do you know it's coming back? On the collect
Speaker 19: that it's coming back? Then their sounds testing like him
Speaker 19: and differences, but how rarely it's you are these citizens?
Speaker 19: What you got to say, were more of them in
Speaker 19: the United.
Speaker 5: States, I think they would have to you'd have to study,
Speaker 5: they'd have to be a language, you'd have to learn,
Speaker 5: to commute being to prove that it's more than just.
Speaker 3: And I would say this about conspiracy difference from.
Speaker 18: I know at least recover and pop current government employees,
Speaker 18: you would be surprised if the government doesn't. I think
Speaker 18: the a lot of that gets perpetuated because it's a
Speaker 18: cool thing to talk.
Speaker 3: About conspiracy theories.
Speaker 17: Do they deal on some level?
Speaker 3: Probably, But I don't think.
Speaker 17: The conspiracy goes as deep as some people would think.
Speaker 3: So maybe there's a little they wants you to think. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's never learn The next question a
Speaker 3: good study?
Speaker 11: What is the first piece of equipment that you'd buy
Speaker 11: or field research?
Speaker 4: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 4: right back after these messages.
Speaker 1: Audio what what are you really give audio recorders?
Speaker 8: Just because you don't have to spend as much time
Speaker 8: in the field looking and observing. You can literally just
Speaker 8: take them out, drop them off, pick them up the
Speaker 8: next day, and that'll typically if you do it, you
Speaker 8: just start out with audio. That's what's gonna find you
Speaker 8: a place to really start your observations and boots on
Speaker 8: the ground.
Speaker 19: If you record like several there to the audio and
Speaker 19: there's only one, what how do.
Speaker 8: You find it?
Speaker 3: Do you do you have to listen to the whole thing?
Speaker 3: If you have to listen to it, do you have
Speaker 3: to stand a couple of the listening.
Speaker 8: Like he was saying, you can visually see it. You
Speaker 8: can put it on a computer now and you can
Speaker 8: visually see it. So it takes out a lot of
Speaker 8: the listening in the hours and hours, So you can
Speaker 8: visually see the spikes and just focus on those.
Speaker 18: I could get there eight hours the body of ten minutes,
Speaker 18: just looking at the spikes.
Speaker 10: I would use any equipment at all. I would make
Speaker 10: yourself so.
Speaker 3: Familiar with the woods.
Speaker 10: I would spend time in there with.
Speaker 3: No technology, with nothing, I would learn every animal sound.
Speaker 10: I wouldn't move you.
Speaker 11: You probably don't even understand how afraid you are to
Speaker 11: be in the woods going without a gun. Go in
Speaker 11: and spend all night, you up, yous and just be
Speaker 11: in the woods in the day that you feel comfortable, like.
Speaker 10: Truly comfortable there and like, h I these are my woods.
Speaker 3: Now is the day you start. You can buy toys
Speaker 3: and fla whatever you want, but you.
Speaker 10: Need to learn to be present. And that's something that
Speaker 10: none of us are anymore.
Speaker 11: We're all worried about what's coming, or we're very distracted.
Speaker 3: I think for those of you that truly.
Speaker 10: Spend time in the woods, you probably walk right by
Speaker 10: m a whole bunch of times. But we're just not
Speaker 10: observant in the way that we need to be.
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't even start attack. I'd go right back to.
Speaker 10: The basics of just being an animal who woods, who.
Speaker 3: Massed the time I ask questions it.
Speaker 23: So we're gonna cruise right this. It's great that you
Speaker 23: guys are doing wonderful. You always hear stories about close calls.
Speaker 23: Are they rob or per jectile almost hitting someone, But
Speaker 23: you never hear of anyone getting get or her Why.
Speaker 10: That's a great question, who did that? Who did that?
Speaker 3: You, sir, big coming. That's not entire of the animal.
Speaker 17: I'm the interview you guy on the on the podcast,
Speaker 17: Jeff from Pine Out.
Speaker 3: And Research had an experience where you could.
Speaker 17: Actually hit with this thing was holding a stump, a
Speaker 17: piece of wood.
Speaker 18: He startled it on the trail and it jumped it
Speaker 18: and hit him in the chests, knocked him day. He
Speaker 18: wasn't injured person. It wasn't an aggressive thing. He doesn't
Speaker 18: fel it was aggressive.
Speaker 3: But there have been a couple of stories that I
Speaker 3: personally documented.
Speaker 14: Where people have had those kind of experiences.
Speaker 3: But it is rare here.
Speaker 2: You just never hear.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll try to turn this one of the things
Speaker 8: that we observe. And this is where I've gotten this ideology.
Speaker 3: Is my first research.
Speaker 8: Research area was a little different, but in the four hundred,
Speaker 8: it seems as though they will do things to see
Speaker 8: your reaction. If they toss some rocks into camp and
Speaker 8: you freak out and you pull a gun.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 8: They're done. There's gonna be no interaction. If you stay calm,
Speaker 8: ignore it, laugh it off, what have you.
Speaker 1: They'll try again.
Speaker 8: They'll try again, and at some point when they're not
Speaker 8: getting a reaction, it seems like that's when the interactions,
Speaker 8: if there's gonna be interaction, will start.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, most people are going to freak out out cases.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to.
Speaker 8: They basically have to figure out if if they're gonna
Speaker 8: be able to ascertain whether or not you'll be aggressive,
Speaker 8: and if somebody is scared, they're more likely to be aggressive.
Speaker 8: So it seems like to me, and it's just my
Speaker 8: opinion that it's a way of testing us.
Speaker 10: And the speaking of behalf of the mute beautiful ay
Speaker 10: over there with the.
Speaker 3: Wonderful lives being great.
Speaker 11: Uh, they may also use it to annoying the ship
Speaker 11: up with you and have you leave the area. And
Speaker 11: by using this kind of torture all blogs, you can't
Speaker 11: sleep and you're just like.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'll keep them plat m. So if
Speaker 3: that is, we're good where.
Speaker 22: The guys take you, We love you, and it's gonna
Speaker 22: be awesome.
Speaker 16: Tomorrow for those of you that are back wonderful movies
Speaker 16: like me, Hey, and is there any final questions, any concerns,
Speaker 16: anything that you have that we can answer for you
Speaker 16: before we go.
Speaker 3: It's's awesome you certain if any of you'll ever have
Speaker 3: any love with I know if you play with minimal
Speaker 3: with good But.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm have to watch the felt Bob did have a.
Speaker 17: Normal area and more things catching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's you got. Yeah, damn lucky too and
Speaker 3: they're allowing you there's a lot that's a line up,
Speaker 3: but consistency's key.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you just couldn't keep going because to go back back,
Speaker 11: they can't see you as a threat.
Speaker 10: You to establish if you know? And then me, what
Speaker 10: do you think you use of any eyes going to
Speaker 10: be the future?
Speaker 3: SI through whole as information some of them that do
Speaker 3: you think that will help? I think it has the
Speaker 3: potential to do.
Speaker 18: I think somebody has to take it there cause right
Speaker 18: now I think it's just muddling the waters.
Speaker 3: AI is a fantastic too.
Speaker 17: I literally use AI every day.
Speaker 18: I create images for everything on the podcast, show notes
Speaker 18: things like that.
Speaker 3: It pulls data for me from interviews. It's a great tool,
Speaker 3: but it's.
Speaker 18: Also very problematic when it comes to I don't believe
Speaker 18: anything I see as far as an image.
Speaker 2: You're a video for cant it's just.
Speaker 14: It's simply they think they're probably music. Any I don't
Speaker 14: the terms for you. You don't technically have an.
Speaker 3: Equal your call mutien set.
Speaker 14: This is what evidence gotta happen in orders.
Speaker 17: That's a really good example. And I've had this conversation
Speaker 17: with Steve Coles.
Speaker 18: If you guys are familiar with Steve Goals and to
Speaker 18: watch particularly he's Gottatube Champel.
Speaker 17: He does a lot of debunking of hoaxes and he's
Speaker 17: very big with the evidents.
Speaker 3: But he was using this for footprints cast and for audio.
Speaker 17: He was using it to say, like you would run
Speaker 17: images of type standings, videos and things like that for
Speaker 17: it to see if AI would pick out if it
Speaker 17: was real or not.
Speaker 3: I did my own tests.
Speaker 17: I went out and put these recorders, and I'm using
Speaker 17: tonight on my profit and I just pant.
Speaker 18: Hoots, woops, screams and my own big foot calls and
Speaker 18: a I said, I was most likely not known Friday.
Speaker 17: Yeah, so I don't think that's acting.
Speaker 3: We could we use it a lot for uh the
Speaker 3: new version for chatting beauty by it. It'll actually tell
Speaker 3: you it's trying to be helpful. Is wanting to open
Speaker 3: the whole.
Speaker 10: New people like that like them.
Speaker 3: It's actually we're having to rebander way.
Speaker 13: We are prushing top work now because we were using
Speaker 13: it for some computations and things like that, and it's
Speaker 13: actually messing up some of the map now trying to
Speaker 13: help me guess and if you call it out and
Speaker 13: you're absolutely like, they shouldn't have and it's stuff on
Speaker 13: this your com So now we're having a problems. But
Speaker 13: like you said, but you have to go out and
Speaker 13: test it.
Speaker 3: Just like Bryan.
Speaker 10: But I do believe in some ways that you spoke,
Speaker 10: you're creating your theory and you wanna do inspontaneously research
Speaker 10: the whole world on something.
Speaker 3: But keep it up in mind, cause.
Speaker 10: Y'all it's help me in that way.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow be presenting.
Speaker 2: So I'm doing.
Speaker 10: It's pretty interesting about the And I did use AAI
Speaker 10: particular deepro actually use AI because I didn't think that
Speaker 10: was an act.
Speaker 3: I asked and it just opened up the same work.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess go into it with a grand.
Speaker 13: Song obviously as be false citations for the papers and
Speaker 13: do exist, and it's it's stations, right, it's fine, I.
Speaker 3: Had last one in one morning, or it's it's okay,
Speaker 3: we're not getting booted and I'm gonna come in here, Okay,
Speaker 3: So I get a.
Speaker 24: Car between my personal experience and what I'm captured on
Speaker 24: on you. I've had everything a boods, hous browns.
Speaker 17: And actual language.
Speaker 3: That's stuff that you've got to.
Speaker 24: Experience now on your investigations as well.
Speaker 3: I've had I've taught them talked.
Speaker 24: With Lakota what we thought was chicken salt birds would
Speaker 24: come to find out detectionally cheered.
Speaker 3: Wow, with crystal ball reputations. But that's yeah, I want
Speaker 3: to hear that. I want to now, I want we
Speaker 3: might be going for tomorrow. I think every one year.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that pretty much.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I've heard what they we have described and brought
Speaker 18: morehead Sierra sounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 24: Shamer you have to haven't talk about act now like
Speaker 24: Lakota Satan Shawn, which would go to pre calmed yourself.
Speaker 10: I've heard the howls in the distance and loops and
Speaker 10: wind offs and stuff that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every language for me. Yeah, that's really if you
Speaker 3: get Yeah, I mean all right, now, this is where
Speaker 3: we share.
Speaker 8: And I've heard the word ahoo aho three times in
Speaker 8: the four hundred. It's I found it in two different dialects,
Speaker 8: and one of them was Cherokee, one was friend, and
Speaker 8: one was hello.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, all I will say, is IC big for
Speaker 3: basically your colle s. That's the AI.
Speaker 17: We've got to be afraid of ware coming things.
Speaker 1: They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to feel world open.
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Speaker 25: joy for me, enjoy, stay right, you come in right away.
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Speaker 6: State still.
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Speaker 3: Plays and paste in state.
Speaker 6: ASSSTSS insist