1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Business as usual over the super Book with our good 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,000 friend John Murray, and John is holding down the four 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,919 for us at the Westgate here and we go behind 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,039 the counter with John. Brought to you by our great 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,439 friends and partners at wagertalk dot com. All of your 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,359 betty needs go to wager talk dot com and of 7 00:00:15,359 --> 00:00:17,719 course for all of your betting. 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,839 Speaker 2: You know what you gotta do. 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,559 Speaker 1: You got to go to the West Gate and go 10 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,800 to the super Book and get down on your action there. 11 00:00:23,879 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: John, what's going on? 12 00:00:24,719 --> 00:00:24,839 Speaker 3: Man? 13 00:00:24,879 --> 00:00:25,359 Speaker 2: How you doing? 14 00:00:26,719 --> 00:00:29,839 Speaker 3: What's going on? Fellas? Watching the Ryder Cup here? Man? 15 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:31,679 They don't have anybody in this country they can make 16 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:36,039 a three foot podcast. Unbelievable. 17 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,799 Speaker 2: Let's throw Yeah, I'm watching it. 18 00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm watching a little ride of cup here that 19 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,840 all we do is miss these five footers, man, three footers. 20 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Come on, guys, what kind of betting action are you 21 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,920 getting on the Ryder Cup. 22 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,079 Speaker 3: That's a good question. It's not a good betting event. 23 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,920 It's not a good betting event because you've got the 24 00:00:54,159 --> 00:00:56,560 pairings come out so late, you've got a very limited 25 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,759 amount of time to actually take wagers on them. Other 26 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,719 than just that betting to left the cup left the trophy, 27 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,000 which is decent. There's really not a lot of action 28 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:09,239 on the Ryder Cup, but I just think I just 29 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,519 enjoy watching its rooting for the team US. 30 00:01:13,519 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: John, what is probably the biggest international you know, uh, 31 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:21,640 maybe not your you know, the conventional wisdom. So obviously 32 00:01:21,719 --> 00:01:25,560 we're not talking about you know, NFL games in Dublin, Ireland, 33 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:27,079 which we have this week and this and that, but 34 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,599 just you know, some of the other things that these 35 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,599 international events that that you get. I know, obviously World 36 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,599 Cup is huge, we get that, but. 37 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,359 Speaker 2: What are some of the other other ones? 38 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think Champions League soccer, you know, Champions League soccer. 39 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,959 Champions League is similar to the NCAA tournament, and then 40 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,359 it kind of runs and reverse in terms of about popular 41 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,120 and as betting wise, we get our best Champions League 42 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,760 handle early in the tournament when the when the people 43 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,079 can parlay all the favorites together, and then it kind 44 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:00,319 of tails off as you get into the of the 45 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,519 knockout play and then the Champions League finals usually a 46 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,560 very big, very good betting event for US. You mentioned 47 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:09,919 the World Cup. The Euro Soccer tournament last summer was 48 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,919 really good for US. The COPA America was really good 49 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:16,000 because it was being played in the United States. The 50 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,039 time zones lined up well. I'd say soccer soccer internationally 51 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:24,759 is is pretty good for us business wise, definitely the best. 52 00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:27,360 The World Cup's the best of Flaw and the World 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,719 Cup was showing us next summer. 54 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: We talked a little American football. Now. 55 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Last week in the NFL, favorites went ten and six, 56 00:02:35,719 --> 00:02:40,199 but we had seven one score games, several decided late, 57 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,439 and we know how exciting it was down the stretch, 58 00:02:43,759 --> 00:02:45,919 you know, for so many of these games in the 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,319 at the super book there. Coming up on our last Sunday, 60 00:02:49,319 --> 00:02:51,520 I should say talk a little bit about how the 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,840 week went for you guys. 62 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: Pretty good. 63 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:56,599 Speaker 3: I mean we've been okay with the We did okay 64 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,520 in the morning, actually better than okay in the morning. 65 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,719 We really needed NVER in the afternoon game and the 66 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:07,439 Chargers usin Herbert's Man incredible play there team all and 67 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:09,199 may up winning the game by three. And then they 68 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,199 did very poorly on the the Sunday night games, and 69 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:15,680 Russell Wilson went back to like factory settings, I guess 70 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:18,759 after the Dallas game and like you know, looked looked 71 00:03:18,759 --> 00:03:21,039 like he'd never thrown a football in his life. That 72 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:23,560 was really a terrible result for us. And then we 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,199 did bounce back on Monday night with Detroit beating Baltimore. 74 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:27,680 That was that was a good result for us. So 75 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,039 it was going up and down all week. Uh not nothing, 76 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:34,599 nothing super. But it's not like we got carried out either. 77 00:03:34,599 --> 00:03:38,360 It's just sort of a forgetable bottom line, but some 78 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,800 very rememberable games. And you know obviously that Rams line Rams, 79 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,960 excuse me Rams. Eagles game was one of the craziest 80 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,120 finishes I've ever seen, and from a points start. 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: Perspective, John, the game that you kind of just brushed over, though, 82 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:54,800 you guys had to make a killing in the green 83 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,479 Bay game because that knocked out all the teasers, all 84 00:03:57,479 --> 00:04:00,400 of the money line parlays the doubt. 85 00:04:00,439 --> 00:04:03,479 Speaker 3: It's totally right, green Bay. That was our biggest way. 86 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,560 We often did very well in the Chicago game, Chicago 87 00:04:06,639 --> 00:04:10,639 beating Dallas in the afternoon. But yeah, green Bay, we 88 00:04:10,759 --> 00:04:13,080 finally got, like to your point, mark, we finally got 89 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,960 a favorite of more than three points lose a football game. 90 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,480 And we certainly felt lucky about that one because I 91 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,279 don't know what Jordan Love was looking at. I don't know. 92 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,040 Maybe the receiver went the wrong way. I don't know 93 00:04:23,079 --> 00:04:25,920 what the hell happened, but you know Cleveland got gifted 94 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:26,600 that one for sure. 95 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: Jrum Murray joins us. 96 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: So we're at the super book Marko D'Angelo in studio 97 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:34,600 in Vegas, TC Martin here at the Gamebridge Field House 98 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:38,480 in Indianapolis. John, what kind of action are you seeing 99 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:41,000 on these w NBA playoffs? Now we're into the semi 100 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,639 final round and obviously the Aces have been large favorites 101 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,920 in games one and two, still a favorite here tonight 102 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:49,079 around four and a half. You can update us on that, 103 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,720 but just overall talk about the action and then also 104 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,800 specifically this series, we. 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: Have the Aces minus four right now that we had 106 00:04:57,439 --> 00:05:00,839 a sharper player that we respect took the fever at 107 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:04,079 plus four and a half. Pretty good action both in 108 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,879 terms of the game to game and the futures book. 109 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,759 I mean, you guys probably know this, but we I mean, 110 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,839 the guys are mostly all rooting for the Aces, of course, 111 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:15,480 but they are our worst outcome in the future book 112 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:19,480 for sure, and from a futures perspective, we would actually 113 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:20,920 want to see one of the teams in the other 114 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:23,959 semifinal talking about the Links and the Mercury. We want 115 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,279 one of those two to win the title. But pretty 116 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,600 good handle. Still a lot of sharp panel on the WNBA. 117 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:33,839 I teased Marco about that before. It's definitely a it's 118 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,480 definitely a wise guy driven sport, and tonight we've seen 119 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,120 sharp money on both the dogs and. 120 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,639 Speaker 1: You got one sharp guy who just loves playing these 121 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,959 player props as well too. 122 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: In studio. 123 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: All well aware of that. That's why, that's why I 124 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,519 like it when the show is off property, so you 125 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,839 can't nail us here, the little old lest you know 126 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,240 what I mean, keep Marco out of here. 127 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:00,639 Speaker 4: It's been good. I get a lot of been joined 128 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:04,000 because I watch the w NBA games and go to 129 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,000 them and bet them. But you know what, you know, 130 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:09,000 it's it's a market that you know, I think I've 131 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,519 got an edge on. I'm gonna take advantage whenever I can. 132 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's that's really spoken like a true wise guy. 133 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:20,199 I mean, if if somebody, you know, if somebody told 134 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:22,079 me they had they thought they had an edge and 135 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,000 w NBA player props, I would believe them. If somebody 136 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,600 told me they thought they had an edge and NFL sides. 137 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,519 I'm not saying nobody does. Okay, there are people, There 138 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,079 are people and syndicates out there that are that good, 139 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,720 but it's very few and far between. I think you'd 140 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,519 agree with me on that, Marco. I mean, it's not 141 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:43,879 it's a very difficult market market to beat, and that's 142 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:46,120 why you can get down a lot more money on 143 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,319 an NFL game than you can on a w NBA player. 144 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:54,199 Speaker 4: Props absolutely. John. Switching to Saturday college football, though, I 145 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,920 got to ask you, We've got some really good marquee 146 00:06:56,959 --> 00:06:59,519 games this week, you know, kind of like that the 147 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,279 first that we had with some big matchups, and obviously, 148 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,360 you know, being the Pennsylvania boy, I got to open 149 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,519 with you, and how's the action going in the Penn 150 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,560 State Oregon game? And is the public ignoring James Franklin's 151 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:17,439 record against the top ten teams? 152 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,639 Speaker 3: You know? You know, actually right now, you're some of 153 00:07:21,639 --> 00:07:23,680 our friends are gonna like hearing this. Oregon is a 154 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,240 pretty square dog. You know, there's been a lot of 155 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:29,800 money on Oregon here. We had we did see some 156 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,079 sharper play on Penn State early in the week. It 157 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:35,839 looks like we're actually gonna need Penn State in that 158 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:39,199 one Tomorrow night. That's an awesome game, really awesome college 159 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:42,079 football Saturday, guys. I think that that's probably the game 160 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,279 I'm looking forward to the most. I think the book's 161 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:46,399 gonna need Penn State. I kind of like Penn State myself, 162 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:49,839 but uh, there's some really good games tomorrow. It's gonna 163 00:07:49,839 --> 00:07:51,079 be an awesome day a college football. 164 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: Penn State a three and a half point choice. 165 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the white out too bad to you're 166 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,639 not going to be there, Mark, I know you want 167 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,160 to go to the Penn State white out game when 168 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:00,600 you went to. 169 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,879 Speaker 2: A couple of years ago. 170 00:08:02,279 --> 00:08:06,439 Speaker 1: But this is interesting because you know the Oregon the 171 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:10,000 knock on Oregon will always be okay, can they handle 172 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,519 the physicality and that sort of thing. But Mark, you 173 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,839 bring up a great point, and it's hard for me 174 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,360 personally to back James Franklin against any real strong team. 175 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,839 Speaker 2: And I don't care if it's home or away. 176 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're gonna get vanilla play calling 177 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:31,000 on offense. You're gonna get some goofy fourth down calls 178 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,159 that he's gonna be on an island all by himself, 179 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:34,600 and it's tough. 180 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,879 Speaker 2: It's tough. 181 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:38,159 Speaker 1: You know, Penn State against you know, some of these 182 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:41,679 you know, lower echelon teams. It's one thing, but you know, 183 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,840 when when they face a team that is is just 184 00:08:44,879 --> 00:08:47,360 as good or you know, maybe even has better speed 185 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,720 than him on offense, I don't know. I don't know 186 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,080 how much credence I'm putting into the Penn State home 187 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,720 field advantage either. 188 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:57,039 Speaker 2: And again I. 189 00:08:56,919 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Think that both quarterbacks are maybe you know, a little 190 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,519 bit you know, overrated, especially with Aler because we've seen 191 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,960 enough of him over the past few years, right and 192 00:09:08,279 --> 00:09:10,879 as far as more for for Oregon, what we've seen 193 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,159 so far has been nice, but against you know, you know, 194 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:16,600 not great competition. So it's kind of a hard game 195 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,279 to handicap. But I think I would take any points 196 00:09:19,279 --> 00:09:22,960 I can, and going against James frank James Franklin. 197 00:09:23,399 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 4: TC, I got to say that the fact that this 198 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:28,480 you know, we know about the history of the white 199 00:09:28,519 --> 00:09:31,600 out and it just drives me crazy though when they 200 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:33,639 have a whiteout game and they use it for a 201 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,840 twelve o'clock start, that defeats the purpose. The fact that 202 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:41,919 this is gonna be Saturday night in Happy Valley. Oregon 203 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,200 has not faced the team since joining the Big ten 204 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:50,000 on the road, like they're going to face on Saturday night. 205 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,519 And I think James Franklin the first, you know, a 206 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,320 couple of games they played nobody's they didn't have to 207 00:09:55,399 --> 00:09:58,360 really open up the offense. I think this is the 208 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,159 game they take the reins off from Drew Allard. They 209 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,559 got him weapons this year. This team is fully stocked 210 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,440 and loaded if they're ever gonna make a run for 211 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,120 the championship. And remember they only missed basically by from 212 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,320 one or two plays last year to actually be playing 213 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:18,879 for the national championship last year. I think he gets 214 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:22,440 the job done. And we talked about that stat he's 215 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:26,000 won in eighteen since being at Penn State when he 216 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:30,320 plays against a top five team. Fortunately, Oregon is just 217 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:34,759 outside the top five, they're number six, so maybe that'll 218 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:36,000 give him a little confidence. 219 00:10:36,639 --> 00:10:39,279 Speaker 1: I love that when you say if we hear this 220 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,320 a lot when people analyze games or handicapped games to. 221 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: Go, well, if you know this happens, blah blah blah. Okay. 222 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:49,799 The next the next two words in that is James Franklin. Okay. 223 00:10:50,159 --> 00:10:53,039 Speaker 1: And that's where I lose it at It's like, yeah, 224 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,879 they've got the personnel they've got the talent, but what 225 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,440 this guy does with in game situations, I can't think 226 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,840 of another college coach that that does some of these things. 227 00:11:03,879 --> 00:11:06,799 And we viilify this guy a lot, and he continues 228 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:09,320 to keep his job, but again, you know, in the 229 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,120 biggest games, it continues to happen. I don't know, John, 230 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:16,960 what's your take on on on James Franklin and what's 231 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,080 your take on this game? 232 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,399 Speaker 3: Well, I think I agree with what Marco said about 233 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:24,240 Penn State. I feel the same way he does. But 234 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,399 it's hard to trust James Franklin. Guys. You know, past 235 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,720 Stay should have never lost that semi final last year 236 00:11:30,759 --> 00:11:33,279 against a Notre Dame team that had a number of 237 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:37,240 key linemen hurt and they had every opportunity to make 238 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,320 the national championship. They blew that game. I think alers 239 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,000 through a terrible pick in the end of that game. 240 00:11:42,519 --> 00:11:46,440 But no, it's it's difficult to trust Franklin, and it's 241 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,120 hard to understand coaches that have the talent that he 242 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:53,720 has at his disposal and are still running vanilla plays. 243 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,039 I don't know what Alar is going to look like 244 00:11:56,039 --> 00:11:58,519 at the next level, but for now, I think he's 245 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,240 considered like a top five ticking the draft. So why 246 00:12:02,279 --> 00:12:05,879 are you being so vanilla? Why aren't you going for more? 247 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,559 I'll never understand teams that have top tier talent and 248 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:10,799 won't let go of the rains. 249 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:15,639 Speaker 2: John, Let's talk about Alabama and Georgia. Another marquee game. 250 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:17,480 This one was a. 251 00:12:17,399 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Wild one last year, and we got Georgia three and 252 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:22,519 a half point choice. It seems like the three and 253 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,360 a half number, both on the NFL side and the 254 00:12:25,399 --> 00:12:28,759 college side, is a very popular, you know number coming 255 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,440 up this weekend. 256 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was for sure, you're right, but you know, 257 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:36,000 there's so much money on Alabama now that we're actually 258 00:12:36,039 --> 00:12:39,720 down to Georgia two and a half. So we've taken 259 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,120 a lot of money on Alabama yesterday and especially today, 260 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:46,440 So right now we definitely would want to, we'd want 261 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,519 to need to favorite of that game, want Georgia in 262 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,679 that game. Tons of money pouring in on the Crimson Tide. 263 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,559 That's another great game. I mean usually said it already, DC, 264 00:12:55,799 --> 00:12:58,639 but the only shamans those two games are the same time, 265 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,320 because those are two the best, really two of the 266 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,240 best college seball games of the whole regular season, in 267 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,519 my opinion, I mean, they have to be right. 268 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:06,919 Speaker 1: They are gonna look at the l s U Old 269 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,399 Miss game. What are you seeing there? Ole Miss a 270 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,159 one and a half point favorite at home. 271 00:13:12,039 --> 00:13:14,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw all respective play on both ole Miss 272 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,080 minus one and a half and the money line ole Miss. 273 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,000 So ole Miss got the backup quarterback in there. But 274 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,960 I think there's some questions about just how tough LSU's 275 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,919 schedule has been. You know, on paper, it looks so 276 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,799 good they want at Clemson, they beat Florida, but now 277 00:13:30,799 --> 00:13:32,600 it's starting to look like, well, neither neither one of 278 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:36,039 those teams any good, especially Clemson. Okay, So I think 279 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,120 it's a it's a real test for for the Tigers 280 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,799 tomorrow at ole Miss. That's not a great game. That game, 281 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,360 thankfully's in the afternoon. 282 00:13:44,039 --> 00:13:47,519 Speaker 4: John, there's a game on the docket for tomorrow that 283 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,600 doesn't have the Marquis status to some of these other 284 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:55,960 ones do. But if by like Memphis last week against 285 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Arkansas for the reason of who they were playing this week, 286 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:02,559 then that means I got to come back with Arkansas. 287 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,639 If they did get caught looking ahead last week they 288 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,559 got Notre Dame, then where are you seeing the money 289 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,120 in this game. 290 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 3: Well, Arkansas sure blew that game. I don't know about 291 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,919 from a cover perspective. Were they sure blew outright winning 292 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:18,879 that game, that's for sure. I unfortunately watched a lot 293 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:21,960 of that game. There's been a there's been a little 294 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,200 support for Notre Dame. 295 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: You know. 296 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: We got down to Notre Dame minus four, touched the 297 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,279 money at four, moved up to four and a half. 298 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,159 Most of the public tickets are on Notre Dame. So 299 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,799 I'd say right now and expect Arkansas would be one 300 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:36,840 of our needs in the nine am window tomorrow. 301 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,039 Speaker 1: John, Let's go look at the NFL. We got some 302 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,919 pretty good games coming up on Sunday. Which games are 303 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,200 you seeing the most action and line movement up until now? 304 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: It's cheating, but you have to say Atlanta because the 305 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:54,080 quarterback situation with Washington. Atlanta is now two and a 306 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:57,840 half points favorite after being a dog most of the week. 307 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,559 They will get a commit enders team without Jayden Daniels 308 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,320 again and without Terry McLaurin. So that's a tough one 309 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,320 for Washington going out. Atlanta. They bet Detroit. They bet 310 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,840 Detroit up from nine and a half salmony. Detroit's gonna 311 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,159 be a real popular survivor pick. I think it's a 312 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,120 very interesting week and that you've got all these big favorites. 313 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,559 We've actually seen our Sharper players on some of these favorites. 314 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,000 We took sharp money on Houston minus seven, and we 315 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:26,320 took sharp money on Denver minus seven moved them to 316 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,440 seven and a half. So so Sharper groups actually playing 317 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:33,559 these favorites and moving the favorite price is even higher here. 318 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: I see, well you could probably see that. I mean 319 00:15:36,759 --> 00:15:40,120 in that Houston Tennessee game, you know, just just going 320 00:15:40,159 --> 00:15:44,240 against these these teams that you know are having problems scoring. 321 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:47,039 And again, you know, after you know, watching cam Ward 322 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,159 for the first three weeks, I think people are thinking, okay, again, 323 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,200 you know this is this is the guy who may 324 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,919 not be ready, especially against you know, real good defenses 325 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:56,600 in the NFL. 326 00:15:56,799 --> 00:15:57,879 Speaker 2: And Houston definitely has that. 327 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: Houston has problems scoring, understand that, but you know, Houston 328 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:05,240 at home, you kind of figure that they maybe do 329 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:06,759 for a double ditch of victory here. 330 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got to say that that does look 331 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:15,000 like there's something wrong in my opinion with Ward. I 332 00:16:15,039 --> 00:16:18,200 don't know if maybe it's an ankle injury, but on 333 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,519 the other side. C. J. Stroud isn't terrible this year, 334 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:24,240 so I don't know if he's banged up or if 335 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,840 it's the offensive line, but you know, he's thinking back 336 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:29,200 to the last year. He's coming off that Rookie of 337 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,320 the Year season. He's being talked about. Is essentially a 338 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,279 lead quarterback in this league. He didn't really have a 339 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:37,320 good season last year. They did win the division, they 340 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,840 did win a wildcard game against the Chargers, so it's 341 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,759 not like last year was a total disaster. But so 342 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:46,360 far his third season has been a complete disaster. He's 343 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:46,919 been awful. 344 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,759 Speaker 4: John the game that we had a change of quarterbacks 345 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:56,399 announced early in the week and we're talking about Jackson Dark, 346 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,120 you know, getting his first NFL start. What did you 347 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,919 guys do with the books whenever you got that announcement, 348 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,319 Did that move the line one way or the other? 349 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,640 You guys figure at this point it's a wash between 350 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,799 Russell Wilson and him. 351 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, the Chargers line went up a little 352 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,119 bit up now it's at six and a half, and 353 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,559 then we did see some sharper play on the Giants 354 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:22,319 plus six and a half, But to me, there's no difference. 355 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,640 I mean, Russell Wilson was absolutely terrible last week. He 356 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,640 looked terrible leak one against Washington. I don't know what 357 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:33,000 Dallas was doing defensively in Week two, and he actually 358 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:35,880 looked capable, But even when he had his moments in 359 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,039 that game, he was basically destroying the ball for grads 360 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:41,240 and receivers are making plays. So I don't see how 361 00:17:41,279 --> 00:17:43,359 the Giants can get any worse with Darting there than 362 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,960 they already were with Wilson in there. I don't think 363 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,319 it should be a big line move. 364 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:53,039 Speaker 4: Okay, you're gonna have Steeler terrible tiles waving into sports 365 00:17:53,079 --> 00:17:54,880 book at six point thirty on Sunday. 366 00:17:56,759 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: You have to tell me I'll be watching soccer. That's 367 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:03,799 too early for me. I think. I think right now 368 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:07,319 looks like we need the Steelers a little bit. There's 369 00:18:07,319 --> 00:18:10,640 a little bit of money on Minnesota, so Minnesota obviously 370 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,839 look great on Sunday and putting it mildly against Cincinnati. 371 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,400 So tough ones from Pittsburgh having to go over to 372 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,680 Dublin and play the Vikings. I'm not a huge fan 373 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,759 of the European Games, to be honest. 374 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: Guys, Yeah, there we go, and I don't think not 375 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:29,839 many people are gonna be waiving any towels in the 376 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,599 super book at six point thirty in the morning. Okay, 377 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,920 I mean maybe Marco's friends may have some bloody Mary's 378 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,079 going to that point in time. 379 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 380 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: I just think you can. You can have your own 381 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,759 private party, maybe at your house. Marco, six thirty in 382 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:46,839 the morning, advise sleep in, don't don't watch this game. 383 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: I got a live It's gonna be painful for you anyway. 384 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:52,279 Speaker 4: I got a live teaser going to Pittsburgh from Arizona 385 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:55,000 in the last night, so I already have invested interest. 386 00:18:55,519 --> 00:18:57,079 Speaker 1: You know who else, guys, I don't know if you 387 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,720 heard this or not. Isn't real happy about this whole ordeal? 388 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,640 Is Aaron Rodgers? Yeah, your quarterback. Marco saying like, well, 389 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:07,680 you know, they didn't leave until until Thursday evening, so 390 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,559 they really didn't get there until Friday. And Aaron's saying, 391 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,759 why couldn't we come like Monday or Tuesday? He goes, 392 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:16,240 you know, I'm a historian. I really enjoy, like, you know, 393 00:19:16,319 --> 00:19:19,599 you know, seeing these other foreign countries, and yeah, I 394 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,359 was really looking forward to to spending some time there 395 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,079 in Ireland. And and now we can't even go out 396 00:19:25,079 --> 00:19:25,680 and do anything. 397 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,799 Speaker 2: Where's Aaron Rodgers head at? Just listen to what he's saying. 398 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,079 Speaker 4: Oh, he actually said TC. In an interview, somebody asked 399 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,279 him what he was looking forward to most of going 400 00:19:35,319 --> 00:19:37,920 to Dublin, and he said, I can't wait to get 401 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,880 a Guinness on draft. That's my favorite year. 402 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: Of course, that's true. 403 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,079 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Marco, Aaron Rodgers can't afford to go 404 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,319 to Dublin in the offseason. 405 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: I was thinking the same thing, John. 406 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: Stopping the driver from going to Dublin. This guy probably 407 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,759 makes like fifty million dollars a year. He can't fly 408 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,359 to Dublin for a week and hang out. 409 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, go play some go play some golf. 410 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: You know. Well, I'm with TC. Where is this guy's 411 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,559 head at? Man, I mean, these guys are these guys 412 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:07,279 are not going to Dublin for vacation. I mean they've 413 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:09,839 got they've got a professional football game to play on 414 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,480 Sunday morning. 415 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Wow, all right, Minnesota and the Steelers in Dublin six 416 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,839 thirty in the morning. 417 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,319 Speaker 2: Set your alarm clock, you know for that one. All right? 418 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,519 Speaker 1: Any other games, John did Is are moving the needle 419 00:20:25,519 --> 00:20:26,759 a little bit on Sunday. 420 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think the most interesting thing is the two. 421 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,000 Like I would say premium games, it's controversial, but you've 422 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:38,960 got Baltimore Kansas City. That's not controversial. That one's in 423 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,720 the afternoon, one five local. There hasn't really been any 424 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:45,599 sharp money either way in that one. So right now 425 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:49,000 we've got Kansas City plus three at home second time. 426 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:51,920 Kansas City has been a home dog this season, which 427 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,359 is kind of interesting. And then the Sunday night game, 428 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,599 you've got green Bay at Dallas. Dallas the course, let's 429 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,599 say struggling defensively, but you know, green Bay really hasn't 430 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,559 been great on offense either. It's been their defense. It's 431 00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:09,400 been show outstanding in their early season starts. But I 432 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,200 think there's not a lot to report betting wise either 433 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,119 of those two games yet. And that surprises me because 434 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,519 those are two very high profile matchup from Yeah, you. 435 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,279 Speaker 1: Know, I looked at that game too, and I can 436 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:25,799 probably see that. I think people have a problem picking 437 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:28,920 a side in the Ravens Chiefs games. Like I said, 438 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,359 you want to have some action on it. I mean, 439 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:33,440 it's one twenty five Pacific time. But again, it's like 440 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,400 what you know when you got Lamar Jackson, and he's 441 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,920 prone to blowing up, especially against good defenses. And you 442 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,039 saw what he did the other night or you know, 443 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:42,640 Monday night. 444 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: That was horrid. 445 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: And then you know the Chiefs, it's like, oh, here 446 00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:49,200 we go. I think we all are thinking the same 447 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,440 thing that this team is on a little bit of 448 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,400 a downward slide. 449 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: But you know, do you want to play the Chiefs? 450 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:56,759 Speaker 1: Yes, they're at home, but against Baltimore, who you know, 451 00:21:56,839 --> 00:21:59,079 talent wise, probably has better talent the Chiefs. I think 452 00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:01,359 it's a hard game to handy cap and where that 453 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,200 line is set with you guys, it's it's even tougher. 454 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 3: Well, Baltimore is a hard team to trust. Yeah, you know, 455 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:09,880 you say what you want about them, but they're a 456 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,319 great front runner if they get the lead, and there's 457 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,319 probably nobody in the league better better at playing from 458 00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:19,559 ahead and Lamar Jackson. But when they are in these 459 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:22,039 close games, when they have these games where they need 460 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:24,240 to pick up a third downar maybe even get a stop, 461 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,000 they haven't shown the ability to do that, and that's 462 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,839 why they've already lost twice this season. It's very interesting 463 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,319 how a team that I think we all agree has 464 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,400 a good coach, and we all agree has this great quarterback. 465 00:22:38,079 --> 00:22:39,920 They sure lose a lot of close games and a 466 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,680 lot of big games. 467 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely correct. All right, John, appreciate the time. 468 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,200 As always, We'll let you get back to work there 469 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,720 and we look forward to seeing you next week. All right, guys, 470 00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:53,039 Thanks John Murray go behind the counter with him. Brought 471 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:56,039 to you by wager talk dot com. Go to wager 472 00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:58,599 talk dot com for all of your betting needs, whether 473 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:01,599 it is any of the sports. 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