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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to you. I on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and

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<v Speaker 2>with me today Dave Silver. Dave, how were you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Good to be back.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to be back.

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<v Speaker 4>A busy week for everybody around town, but good to

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<v Speaker 4>be here talking basketball and yeah, golf, tournament's over.

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<v Speaker 3>Things like that. I did not. Did you have a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to go out there?

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<v Speaker 2>I did Saturday and Sunday. Nice weather. On Sunday weather

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<v Speaker 2>was okay. On Saturday, walked a lot. My feet hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting old.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So you know, I watched most of the coverage

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<v Speaker 4>on on Sunday and it looked it looked great.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, It was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I saw I got home before the final maybe

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<v Speaker 2>three or four holes, so I wanted to watch on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great, It looked great, It looked good.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean visually, you know, we all know what Tucson

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<v Speaker 4>can look like this time of year in blue skies

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<v Speaker 4>and the mountains.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was perfect for TV.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure the Chamber of Commerce loved having Tucson all

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<v Speaker 4>over the place for those few hours on the Golf Channel,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was it was really good. It looked you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it looked good. I don't know what else you can say.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah youah, no question. Next day, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>enjoyed the day. I'm sure we'll try to catch up

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<v Speaker 4>with people at the Comcucators later this week to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about that. What did you think about the basketball situation?

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<v Speaker 4>Just to catch up The brue.

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<v Speaker 2>Ha ha was not so much about the game, but

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<v Speaker 2>about Tommy's cumments about the fan.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, talking to kind of comparing the Kansas fans to

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<v Speaker 4>what we have here yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, before you start, we had a very good

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<v Speaker 2>show with a lot of people calling in and watching

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<v Speaker 2>their opinions of for and against Tommy's thoughts. He did

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it today in his press conference. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure who asked the question. So we're gonna have Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Peterson at the four fifteen hours for seventeen hour talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that and who asked him the question about the

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<v Speaker 2>fans and he said he just wants them to be better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, you know, I mean we all kind of

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<v Speaker 4>know what's what the crowd looks like at McHale Center.

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<v Speaker 3>We have for years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think you can even compare it to

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<v Speaker 4>some of the places where, like Kansas, crowd just goes

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<v Speaker 4>crazy in the Dukes. I mean those are also the

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<v Speaker 4>exceptions too. I think most crowds are not like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever go, and you you're from that area,

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<v Speaker 2>the northern California area, did you ever go to a

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford game when I ever want to play?

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<v Speaker 3>I never did. I don't think I went to believe

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<v Speaker 3>it or not.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually went to a Stanford ASU game almost by

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<v Speaker 4>accident one time when I was younger, but I never went.

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<v Speaker 2>May Those Maples fantastic, fantastic atmosphere. Stanford was rocking at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, with Montgomery and Lout obviously facing in Stanford.

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<v Speaker 2>It was crazy, probably the best atmosphere I'd ever been to.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Matt Court at Oregon crazy place, crazy times

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<v Speaker 2>with the Stotto Myers going back home and played against

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<v Speaker 2>the Ducks, and when Orgon was pretty good. There's been

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<v Speaker 2>other places l s U a time or two, Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>State come time or two, So you know there are

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<v Speaker 2>other places other than Arizona. That's that has a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, But I mean we always had the reputation

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<v Speaker 4>in Tucson just for having big crowds. Obviously, they were

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<v Speaker 4>the Pack ten and Pac twelve in attendance forever, So

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we had that going for us in Tucson.

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<v Speaker 4>But as far as crazy routiness, there would be those moments,

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<v Speaker 4>there'd be a few games in the season, especially in

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<v Speaker 4>the earlier years, where there would just be a huge yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, big crowd and just the intensity and just

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<v Speaker 4>the excitement for certain teams that was away.

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<v Speaker 2>You were there, You got here in eighty three, right before,

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<v Speaker 2>right same week. Maybe. So at what point, what point

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<v Speaker 2>did you see that this that he had some magic

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<v Speaker 2>going on and the crowd believed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would guess maybe by year two we sort

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<v Speaker 4>of saw something again.

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<v Speaker 3>And the fans started to show up. Fans started to

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<v Speaker 3>show up, but not full probably not no, not completely.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't I'm sure we could probably look up

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<v Speaker 4>the statistics and what the average attendance was in those

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<v Speaker 4>early couple of years. But by the time they made

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<v Speaker 4>the tournament, you know, all of a sudden, the bandwagon

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<v Speaker 4>was there and people should jump on it and people

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<v Speaker 4>are buying season tickets and you know that kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he was right when he was out there saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you better, Richard, you better get your tickets now because

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be sold out or they have me a

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<v Speaker 2>hard ticket again. So yeah, and that turned out to

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<v Speaker 2>be what it was. In fact, I was with the

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<v Speaker 2>group of my friends last night and I asked him

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<v Speaker 2>we had a show today and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you listened to it. They said, yeah, maybe, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>And I says, do you like the crowds? And they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>They have tickets and they said, it's not like it

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<v Speaker 2>used to be. I didn't prompt them. I didn't say anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has it's not like it used to be, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's simply not. And you've gone to a game or two, right, Yeah? Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>which did you go to the Big Ones game?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So Duke was obviously that was that was probably the marquee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>at least early in the season.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were and they were not as great as

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<v Speaker 2>they should have been, but they were losing most of

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<v Speaker 2>the game, right, so there was hard to cheer and

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<v Speaker 2>get them go, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it was great.

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<v Speaker 4>The first maybe ten minutes of the game, and then

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<v Speaker 4>when pretty much took control, that was that was it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, I mean, there was always such a

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<v Speaker 4>situation where you'd circle that, you know, that game, the

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the Stanford games or U C l A

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, uh during the regular season.

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<v Speaker 3>And there would be a couple of you know, big non.

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<v Speaker 4>Conference games that we would look forward to, and and

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<v Speaker 4>the crowd you could just tell. I mean, there's enough

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<v Speaker 4>smart basketball fans they know when to show up and

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<v Speaker 4>when the game means more nowadays, who even knows what.

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<v Speaker 3>That even means with the tournament, and yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody kind of figures, well they're gonna get in.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, let's just see how things go in the last

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<v Speaker 3>parts of March.

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<v Speaker 2>Right you you're you're I don't know, are you a fan?

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<v Speaker 3>I probably ask you this before. Are you a fan?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, okay, what do you think on the level

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<v Speaker 2>of fandom? How do you think they're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend? And then at the beginning of.

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<v Speaker 4>Next weekend, Well, you know, if they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>play Kansas again in Kansas City, which it you know,

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<v Speaker 4>seems kind of likely.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really have super high hopes.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'm just being a fan and maybe not looking

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<v Speaker 4>at realistically.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's going to be it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>Kansas crowd. I would assume just being where it is,

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<v Speaker 4>it's maybe not going to be as rowdy as it

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<v Speaker 4>was in Lawrence. But I think we can expect it

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<v Speaker 4>to be a tough a tough matchup for them no

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<v Speaker 4>matter what.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna be Michale, North, Kale, Midwest. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you think? What do you think in what terms about

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<v Speaker 3>the game itself? Well, I think that there.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a friend of mine who and I said this yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>who said that Arizona travels well, they don't travel well.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll have a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>And you you know this because you you went to

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<v Speaker 2>the places where they had a loves right right Midwest

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<v Speaker 2>not so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm sure there's some I'm sure there are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be people who are looking forward to them

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<v Speaker 4>coming that live in Kansas City or Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, don't get to see him very often.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly so that it's always been the case whenever the

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<v Speaker 4>team travels to, you know, a different destination like that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a tournament, so there's a reason and people,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure there's a pretty strong I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>assuming the u A is going to send out playing

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<v Speaker 4>load of people, the Boosters and the traveling Park. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the Bosters are gonna probably go with ye. And here's

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<v Speaker 4>the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they played this weekend, right, They're got to

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<v Speaker 2>turn around and go to the next destination. So either

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<v Speaker 2>they have deep pockets or they don't have deep buckises

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<v Speaker 2>to make these back to back trips. It's the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm not in Kansas City. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Kansas City for a possibility of one game

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<v Speaker 2>or two and then and then come right back, get

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<v Speaker 2>dressed and showered and go to the next destination wherever

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<v Speaker 2>that is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm I'm you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in fact, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Might have to ask you for a phone number because

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<v Speaker 2>this Isn't your son live in Denner?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I need I need a place to stay, McCall

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<v Speaker 2>just a closet will do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not too far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you know what I'm saying. It's it's not

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<v Speaker 2>cheap for people to go from here to there to

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<v Speaker 2>there Vegas. You know, people just drove up and and

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<v Speaker 2>half of them didn't go to the games. They just

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<v Speaker 2>want to have fun with the rest of the people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I mean it's not certainly not going to

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<v Speaker 4>be the same. We all know that in Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in the heart of Kansas Country, it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a big weekend for them.

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<v Speaker 3>They can make a quick.

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<v Speaker 4>Little forty mile drive over from from Lawrence. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mean it's basically the Big Twelve is very Midwestern.

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<v Speaker 4>The Iowa State crowd apparently is going to be large.

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<v Speaker 3>They were here, they were large here, they brought some people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's going to be it'll be you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how if you of a fans are

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<v Speaker 4>really even care that much. I mean they do, but

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<v Speaker 4>if they can get by Kansas, I suppose they'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Care a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm sure everyone's kind of like, really, we got

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<v Speaker 4>to play these guys again, like less than a week later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that kind of was the probably the thought

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<v Speaker 2>of it, right, they got to beat somebody first, though,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they have to beat who's the team coming

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<v Speaker 2>to beat someone? Though? I thought they were on the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom end of it. You have the bracket.

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<v Speaker 2>So that the four plays Kansas, I think, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the next game would be Kansas. You'd have to get

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<v Speaker 2>us four. But who's going to play into the Arizona game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what I'm saying. It might be Kansas.

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<v Speaker 4>The second round Kansas versus the winner of game four,

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<v Speaker 4>which is today utah U c F will play Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>The right of course, Yeah, so but who does Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>The winner that bracket?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, oh do they Yeah, so they

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<v Speaker 2>a double buy that Arizona has a double buy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, no, no, but Kansas.

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<v Speaker 4>Kansas does not. Who's come first? No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>Four seed is b Yu.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're playing the winner of the Iowa State somebody game,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh Iowa, it will be Iowa State and Cincinnati. Say

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<v Speaker 4>that again, did Cincinnati win earlier? I think they're playing

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<v Speaker 4>now they played the first game.

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<v Speaker 3>Well here he is. Yeah, since I beat Oklahoma State. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's how it's going to play. Okay, so I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona, Arizona will play, will play Thursday late last.

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<v Speaker 2>Game, And you're right, because I'm looking at the back

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they're at the bottom of the their the

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<v Speaker 2>last game, right six thirty whatever it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be and Kansas again, and then they would.

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<v Speaker 3>They get here there. I thought they were flopped, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're not there the late day.

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<v Speaker 4>They'd be the late game on Friday as well, which

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<v Speaker 4>would be six thirty two, so on time, and then

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<v Speaker 4>the championship is on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>At I did say this, I said before they played

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday that if Arizona lost on Saturday, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think they'd win on this Friday against or yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this Thursday against Kansas. Because it's hard to be the

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<v Speaker 2>team twice in a year. Specific the Arizona Arizona's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, just Timmy doesn't lose two in a

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<v Speaker 2>row very often, if at all, UH and playing the

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<v Speaker 2>same team twice back to back, that you know how

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<v Speaker 2>to solve or try to solve the issues that that

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see, we'll see. It's it's it's tough.

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<v Speaker 4>Because you know, again, all these teams have played each

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<v Speaker 4>other and you just kind of never really know how

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<v Speaker 4>things are gonna play it on neutral courts. You've got

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<v Speaker 4>that that factor in as well. Did you does Texas

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<v Speaker 4>Tech bring fans? Are their number two cere? They going

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<v Speaker 4>to bring other people up to Kansas City?

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe there's good enough. Let me, Texas schools are one too.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you follow the SEC at all?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean a little bit, just that they're good.

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<v Speaker 2>You're really good, and they say that the best conference

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<v Speaker 2>ever and they some people last that I was I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't sleep. So I was watching the CBS college basketball

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<v Speaker 2>team and they said that if you saw three or

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<v Speaker 2>four SEC teams in the final four, that wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised and that would be a heck of a final four. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>what if you saw something? What if you saw some

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<v Speaker 2>big twelve teams in that uh four? I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised if Houston's in there. I wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas cut fire. They were the preseason number one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, Kansas Baylor not so much. If Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>cut fire, I'm not sure that'll happen, but you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>There's I mean, yeah, Baylor has been hot and cold.

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<v Speaker 3>What are they there? I was State. Look at Ia State.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they're still the seventh seed. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 4>gotta win a cup. They gotta win.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, I was State. It's a tough, tough team.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>People were just a month ago saying that they have

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<v Speaker 3>the chance to get to the final four to two.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, it could be. I haven't really paid

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<v Speaker 2>attention to Big twelve. I know Michigan State did a

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<v Speaker 2>number on Michigan over the weekend. UH and there's some

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<v Speaker 2>other other schools as well, But it could be a

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<v Speaker 2>Big twelve sec situation in UH at the final four

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<v Speaker 2>in San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be interesting to see how Houston kind of

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<v Speaker 4>maneuvers their way through the tournament.

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<v Speaker 6>Two.

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<v Speaker 4>Since they've kind of been, you know, kind of one

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<v Speaker 4>of the favorites, they obviously win the Big twelve. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they're gonna be probably no worse than what a two

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<v Speaker 4>seed in this thing. So it's gonna be kind of

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<v Speaker 4>fun to see how the last year some of those

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<v Speaker 4>Big twelve teams day Last year, I picked them all.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they were really good last year, and then

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<v Speaker 2>their bad guy, their guard got hurt, right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they were toasted. Their issue is they can't score. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you can't score against Bama or Auburn or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be tough. But they also don't let people score.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, they're obviously a great defensive team. The

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<v Speaker 4>Wildcats ran and some of that when they play them here.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just it's usually the tournament's pretty tight defensively.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's not gonna be too many blowout games.

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<v Speaker 4>You start getting scores in the seventies or so, things,

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<v Speaker 4>they're gonna be tight.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna let you introduce our first caller or

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<v Speaker 2>not caller, but our guests here on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>And they were gonna have Brian Peterson at the four seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>who was coming on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're gonna bring in Marin Fader, who is gonna

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<v Speaker 4>and she has got a new book out about Hakim

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<v Speaker 4>Olajuan actually came out late last year. So she's going

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<v Speaker 4>LA and she'll be on her way to Tucson and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll talk more about that and talk more about her book.

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<v Speaker 2>Super Okay, So we'll take a break and come right back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Ie on the Ball with Steve Ravera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to One of the Ball. Here all

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Ox stiver g through Dave Shilbert.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to get hold of them. We're in and

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<v Speaker 2>to see what's going on. Why don't you give it

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<v Speaker 2>for the number? His number came in through? Uh so

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<v Speaker 2>just make sure if five two o four one six

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<v Speaker 2>seven four four zero. No, let's try her one more time.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh what's the last? Just give me? Did you what

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<v Speaker 2>for her her? No? I already got the first three.

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<v Speaker 3>Three, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on to have her call us or get the.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorrybody, we're trying to get her on the on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a hard time getting through, like we had

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<v Speaker 2>some issues last week and now we're trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>all over her and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was busy, so we'll see. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave's well, he's switching the the number again. She's the

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<v Speaker 2>author of a few books. Her latest is on Hakeem Olajauan.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it came out earlier this year, so it

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<v Speaker 2>should be fun. We're gonna have a few of the

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<v Speaker 2>authors out here in the next few days.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got a number of sports books coming to two

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<v Speaker 4>soun sports authors who've got some new books that have

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<v Speaker 4>come out in the last year or so. So she's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the authors we're looking forward to hearing from

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<v Speaker 4>and seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>She's written a couple of great books already. This is

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<v Speaker 3>really her second book.

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<v Speaker 4>She wrote a book about Giannis, the star for the

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<v Speaker 4>Milwaukee Bucks, and she's a regular reporter for the Ringers,

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<v Speaker 4>so she covers all kinds of sports, including basketball. So

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<v Speaker 4>very timely that she's coming to Arizona this time of

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<v Speaker 4>year where hoops seems to be the number one story

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<v Speaker 4>no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a variety of books. Right, it's a number of

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<v Speaker 2>different type of books. Still not coming through. Ope, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what's going on. Beatballs Meatball's phone came through, not

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<v Speaker 2>hers five two O.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm quite sure when we've had some you know, some

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<v Speaker 4>problems connect to pass some of the callers or something

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<v Speaker 4>with some of the some of the guests. So apologies

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<v Speaker 4>for that, but hopefully we can get that worked out

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<v Speaker 4>here sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we'll get We'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how many books sports books do you have in town?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think, Dave? We have about ten? Hello, you're

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<v Speaker 3>on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine the ball?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this marine?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, you're on the air and I on the ball?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this marine?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Hi, thanks for being uh patient with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, of course, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious and Dave sent me a bio and congratulations

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<v Speaker 2>on all your success with the book.

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<v Speaker 3>How many have you written in total? Oh?

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 12>Two?

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<v Speaker 6>Two?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, when did you do the first one?

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<v Speaker 13>The first one was in twenty twenty one, which I

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<v Speaker 13>also was at the festival and.

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<v Speaker 4>You came to the festival. This is this is Dave

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<v Speaker 4>here on the other end here. Thanks Thanks again for

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<v Speaker 4>your patience with all this.

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<v Speaker 3>What was it? What was it like when you're here

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<v Speaker 3>the first time?

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<v Speaker 4>I know this is it's fun that you get to

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<v Speaker 4>come back and I know we're looking forward to seeing you.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to be back.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so fun.

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<v Speaker 13>Me as like just a literary fan. I was like

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<v Speaker 13>trying to go to everyone else's talk because there was

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<v Speaker 13>just so many amazing authors there and like I grew

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<v Speaker 13>up going to the La Times Festival books over here

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<v Speaker 13>in Los Angeles, but the Tucson one is like even bigger.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, it's just really.

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<v Speaker 3>Really fun, nice, nice.

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<v Speaker 2>What what gave you the idea to write the first one?

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<v Speaker 2>And how was acxis? Must have been easy, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the axis, not the writing.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, yeah, I was gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Say nothing's easy about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>The first book on Yannis, I actually when I was

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<v Speaker 13>working at Bleacher Report Bag, which is where I worked

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<v Speaker 13>before my current position at The Ringer, I was doing

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<v Speaker 13>a story on Yannis's forest brother, Alex. He was in

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<v Speaker 13>high school at the time, and I just happened to

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<v Speaker 13>go to their house and Yannis happened to be there.

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<v Speaker 13>I didn't think he was going to be there, and

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<v Speaker 13>so that story came out, and you know, it was

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<v Speaker 13>very It was just received very well and it was

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<v Speaker 13>a very emotional story, and I just thought this would

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<v Speaker 13>make a great book. And so access was difficult because

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<v Speaker 13>I got the book deal literally right before the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 13>so I couldn't go to Greef and do a number

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<v Speaker 13>of things that I wanted to for it. But it

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<v Speaker 13>definitely it made me a better reporter, I think, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He was accommodating. I assume he was accommodating.

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<v Speaker 13>He didn't want to be interviewed again after the articles

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<v Speaker 13>I was able to interview, Yeah, but I was able

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<v Speaker 13>to interview his brother, others, his mom. So I have

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<v Speaker 13>a lot of other interviews in the book, which was

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<v Speaker 13>very helpful.

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<v Speaker 4>When did you decide to write something about Akim Olaje One?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, So I was finishing the Yannest book and I

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<v Speaker 13>was trying to figure out what to do next, and

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<v Speaker 13>you know, I just kept thinking about how they honest

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<v Speaker 13>book was very much not just a biography of him

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<v Speaker 13>in his life, but rather a story about the landscape

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<v Speaker 13>of international players and how this new school of players

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<v Speaker 13>like Yiannis are really dominating and many of them come

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<v Speaker 13>from Africa, and I wanted to sort of see if

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<v Speaker 13>I could write about you know, who said the stage

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<v Speaker 13>for all of these players like Yannis Joel Embiid, who

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<v Speaker 13>set the stage. And I was like, oh, I cam

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<v Speaker 13>Alaje one. You know, why has there nothing been done

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<v Speaker 13>on him? Just felt like he was the most underrated superstar.

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<v Speaker 13>And you couple that with all the human interest, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>fascinating parts of his life, from you know, religion to family.

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<v Speaker 13>I just thought he would be the perfect subject.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny, Becau because I'm guessing now I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was probably playing in Houston before you were

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<v Speaker 2>even born.

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<v Speaker 11>So he one.

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<v Speaker 13>I was born in ninety one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, title, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 13>when I was two years old. Yeah, so that was

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<v Speaker 13>a challenge. You know, Yannas is of my era, Hakeem

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<v Speaker 13>is not. But that's what made it so fun. It

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<v Speaker 13>felt like I was like a basketball historian going back

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<v Speaker 13>in time and reading the archives and watching game film.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, it's just such an awesome era of basketball.

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<v Speaker 13>I wish I could have been there to see it myself.

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<v Speaker 3>We should mention quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>The name of the book is Dream The Life and

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<v Speaker 4>Legacy of Hakim Olajuan and it came out late last year,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's going to be great to hear you talk

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<v Speaker 4>about it here in Tucson in front of a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of basketball fans. I'm sure you know we've got quite

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<v Speaker 4>a basketball story here just at the university.

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<v Speaker 3>When is that going to happen? When's that gonna happens

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<v Speaker 3>here this weekend?

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<v Speaker 4>But once she have a time, since you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>involved in three different sessions, I guess right, So it'll

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<v Speaker 4>be busy when you get when you get to town,

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to be fun. So maybe a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more about Hakeem. You know, Steve and

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<v Speaker 4>I are of the generation where we did watch him

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<v Speaker 4>play at Houston in college college I was talking about Islam.

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<v Speaker 3>It was he was. He part of the slim and

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<v Speaker 3>jam and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then you know going on to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>be drafted in the Michael Jordan draft with Barkley and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that. I mean he came in and such

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<v Speaker 4>such a flurry of stars were part of that that generation.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I mean it was the draft to change at all. Right,

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<v Speaker 13>no more, when you.

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<v Speaker 2>When you when you had this epiphany to find the

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<v Speaker 2>originator or him, did you say, Okay, Now I got

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<v Speaker 2>to find him. Now I got to make sure he

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<v Speaker 2>could do it. Maybe he wants to do it, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do it.

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<v Speaker 13>That's definitely the first step. Although, as you know, you

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<v Speaker 13>don't have to have full access or consent to write

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<v Speaker 13>a book on a public figure. So while I definitely

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<v Speaker 13>got very close and ended up meeting him in the

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<v Speaker 13>home of one of his friends, and he couldn't have

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<v Speaker 13>been nicer. He gave me numbers for people to contact,

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<v Speaker 13>for people that are close to him, but because of

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<v Speaker 13>his religion and a lot of the things that I

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<v Speaker 13>detail in the book, he himself and just the kind

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<v Speaker 13>of humble nature the person he is, the humility which

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<v Speaker 13>is of course influenced by Islam. He himself said, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>I don't want to participate, but you know, every time

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<v Speaker 13>I'd call a friend, they would call him and he'd

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<v Speaker 13>be like, yes, it's okay, I know she's working on it.

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<v Speaker 13>And like I said, he gave me those numbers. I

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<v Speaker 13>spent time at his mosque, so he ended up being

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<v Speaker 13>really helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's how difficult, you know, have you written a

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<v Speaker 2>few of them, a few books? And how difficult is it?

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<v Speaker 2>To not have the subject of the book really being

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<v Speaker 2>the main character.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, it's kind of the norm in biographies, especially

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<v Speaker 13>because most biographies are written about people who are no

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<v Speaker 13>longer with us. But you know, we do live in

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<v Speaker 13>an anti media climate where the only you know, celebrity

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<v Speaker 13>memoirs are very puffy, go certain kind of collaborative things.

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<v Speaker 13>So I actually I think it's I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 13>want to say it's easy. It's definitely not. It's very

643
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<v Speaker 13>hard for the reasons you outline, But it also just

644
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<v Speaker 13>gives you an independence and a freedom.

645
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<v Speaker 14>You know, you're not.

646
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<v Speaker 13>Beholden to anything. This is real journalism. This isn't influenced

647
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 13>by what a celebrity wants in there or not. You know,

648
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 13>you're getting the most unbiased version of the story. And

649
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.079
<v Speaker 13>the other difference is I'm interviewing over two hundred people

650
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 13>for it, So I interviewed two hundred and sixty people

651
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.599
<v Speaker 13>for this book. So you're getting the true story from

652
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 13>all the people around the subject, and that creates such

653
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 13>a rich, more layered story.

654
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<v Speaker 4>Have you had a chance to even appear with him,

655
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.079
<v Speaker 4>like publicly or anything when you're when the book first

656
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 4>came out or no, with that too.

657
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<v Speaker 13>Well, we did an event at his mosque, but he

658
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 13>obviously didn't participate. It was funny. All his friends are like,

659
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.119
<v Speaker 13>you gotta come, you got to come. But you know,

660
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 13>just the fact that that he allowed that to happen

661
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<v Speaker 13>was really special.

662
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<v Speaker 2>So so let me give you an example that and

663
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.400
<v Speaker 2>that's tough. Again, I'm thinking this is gonna be tough,

664
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<v Speaker 2>especially to sell the books if you have to, you know,

665
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>get the books, purchase the books on whatever you do.

666
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>And then he doesn't show up and they come to

667
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:23.079
<v Speaker 2>sign you sign the book. So Ludelsen, who you probably know,

668
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:25.839
<v Speaker 2>I did a few things. My last book was on him,

669
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 2>and he's passed since, right, So the people who wanted

670
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.279
<v Speaker 2>the book didn't want to, didn't care about me. They

671
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>came to the guy his signature and you know, meet

672
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<v Speaker 2>him and take a picture. So I understand how it

673
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<v Speaker 2>is not having that guy. So how was it not

674
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<v Speaker 2>having your guy?

675
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 13>I mean it, I don't. I mean it was fine.

676
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 13>I I yeah, I went on a multi city book tour.

677
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 13>It was really fun and we went to so many

678
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.400
<v Speaker 13>different cities and you know, people really loving the book.

679
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:01.559
<v Speaker 13>So yeah, I'm super happy with it.

680
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<v Speaker 4>Very nice when you when you think of him in

681
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.759
<v Speaker 4>history too, I mean he like again he was, he's

682
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 4>mixed in there with some great great players. Where do

683
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 4>you think he stands, you know overall kind of amongst

684
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 4>the you know, the centers saying the last I don't know,

685
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 4>fifty years ish when you know he was really in

686
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 4>his heyday and you know that that and that position

687
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 4>too has changed quite a bit too that I don't

688
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<v Speaker 4>know how many other great centers we're going to have

689
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 4>in the next the next generation.

690
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I mean he's for sure top five, no question.

691
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 13>But part of the reason why I wrote this book

692
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 13>is because I felt like he was being left out

693
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.599
<v Speaker 13>of those conversations. When you talk about the all time centers.

694
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 13>You never hear his name. And part of that is

695
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.480
<v Speaker 13>because he's not on t and he with a lot

696
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 13>of his contemporaries. He's not a coach, he's not on

697
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 13>social media, and so you know, unfortunately, in our like

698
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 13>you know, very player driven media ecosystem, somebody like Hakeem,

699
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 13>who preferred to let his play speak for itself and

700
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.279
<v Speaker 13>be such a dominant force is kind of like not mentioned.

701
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 13>And so, you know, my hope with this book is

702
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 13>that people realize you know, he's somebody that gave every

703
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 13>center their best game. You take, it's very rare to

704
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 13>find a player like him who wasn't just offense, wasn't

705
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.759
<v Speaker 13>just defense. He was both of them. He gave it

706
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 13>to Kareem and Shaq and David Robinson, all these people

707
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 13>in different generations. A Keim was the one that everyone

708
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 13>everyone knew they had to bring their best for.

709
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question. Did you go in after you did

710
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 2>it and completed it and maybe did some interviews? Uh,

711
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>did you grow more appreciative of him or his accomplishments

712
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>before you know, when you're.

713
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 3>Done done with this?

714
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

715
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 13>I mean, oh my god, I have so much respect

716
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 13>for him. You know I had it before, but I

717
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.640
<v Speaker 13>think you know, when you talk about when you talk

718
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 13>to people that you know, pray alongside him, that various

719
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 13>Moss in Houston, and talk to people that have just

720
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 13>so been impacted by him emotionally, spiritually, it's just a

721
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 13>different level of respect. And part of what the book

722
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 13>really talks about is his impact on other people and

723
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 13>how he never wants any credit for it, and the

724
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:06.599
<v Speaker 13>stuff I learned about what he gave to other people

725
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.720
<v Speaker 13>without ever announcing it, without ever wanting any credit. I

726
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 13>thought was still moving and just such an example for

727
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 13>all of us that just you know, do the work,

728
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:15.400
<v Speaker 13>don't seek the credit.

729
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>What are you working on now? Anything new book wise?

730
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 13>Yes, I'm starting my third book, but I can't say

731
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.160
<v Speaker 13>what it is, but I'm super excited.

732
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry, no one listens to us. Go ahead and

733
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 2>we won't tell Anyboddy.

734
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 3>What are you? What are you doing with?

735
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 4>What are you doing day to day with the with

736
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 4>the ringer though, I mean we see your stories posted

737
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 4>all the time.

738
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a specific beat or how does that

739
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 3>working out?

740
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:41.920
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

741
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 13>I usually refer to myself as the weirdo without a beat.

742
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:50.720
<v Speaker 13>I look for what's interesting, what's compelling, what is going

743
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.799
<v Speaker 13>to move somebody beyond stats? So I focus on all sports,

744
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 13>but I would say primarily basketball and football, but you know,

745
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 13>I've done track stories there and soccer stories there. Somebody

746
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 13>recently recently asked me to do a curling story. So

747
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 13>I'm just honestly after what's interesting.

748
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>It's funny you're not too far removed from college, maybe

749
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 2>ten years i'm assuming now if you're born in ninety one.

750
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 2>But you know, in journalism now, I think more journalists

751
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>need to have that passion that you have. You're trying

752
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to find the story, your storyteller, more than anything, right,

753
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to find the quirky or the weird and

754
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.679
<v Speaker 2>the story that compels or inspires, right, right.

755
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 13>I think you know, more than anything, finding the story

756
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 13>is the hardest pass right, Like reporting is hard and

757
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 13>writing is hard, and we know that, but finding the story,

758
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 13>finding the angle that's different from everybody else is really

759
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 13>the hardest part. You know, the Ringer is only on

760
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 13>the Internet, and the Internet is a very crowded space,

761
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 13>and people are commenting daily, every hour, every second about

762
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 13>these players. So your job is to give them something

763
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 13>that they don't find elsewhere. Your job is to get

764
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 13>to the heart and soul of a person's journey. And

765
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 13>so you know, I just I feel so grateful to

766
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 13>do that work and talk with such interesting athletes.

767
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 2>They've an I deal with this, or Dave not so

768
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 2>much now because he's kind of out of the business

769
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 2>and I'm still almost out of the business. But now

770
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 2>it's it's all sanitized because you have players who are

771
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>moved to the podium and the coaches up there and

772
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.280
<v Speaker 2>they that's all the access you get to with them,

773
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 2>and then they sue your bof the thing. Right, so

774
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 2>everybody has the same material. I mean you're going, you're

775
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 2>trying to go to the extra yard because.

776
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 3>You have to, right right.

777
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 13>I mean it goes back to our conversation earlier about access.

778
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 13>We don't live in a climate where journalists are you know,

779
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 13>respected and given time and so you know, for me,

780
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 13>I want nothing to do with press conferences. I'm not

781
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.039
<v Speaker 13>going to get anything there. I need to get one

782
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:49.719
<v Speaker 13>on one with the player outside of it.

783
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 4>Are you also doing podcasts at all with the Rant

784
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 4>because they've got some amazing podcasts.

785
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I listen to them all the time.

786
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

787
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 13>Currently I don't have a podcast there, but occasionally they'll

788
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 13>have me on when I have a story, okay, sort.

789
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 4>Of the Bill Simmons Network. It's pretty pretty strong, pretty fun.

790
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so yeah, I work there.

791
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>So do you know they brought this up for Saturday?

792
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.360
<v Speaker 2>So you have three three similars? Do you go?

793
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 3>I can list them if you want.

794
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.800
<v Speaker 4>I'll just do it because I have them right in

795
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 4>front of me. But you're going to be appearing at

796
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 4>the u of A on Saturday at one point fifteen

797
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 4>at the Stacks Book Club, which will be a booth

798
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 4>that's going to be just outside the student union.

799
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 3>That's going to be a quick one.

800
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 4>And then you continue on Saturday in the Internet excuse me,

801
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Integrated Learning Center, which when you if you remember, I

802
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:42.079
<v Speaker 4>don't know if you were there last time, but it's

803
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 4>down below underneath the mall kind of thing classroom with

804
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 4>Melissa Ludkey and Howard Megdal, And then you come back

805
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 4>on Sunday, also back in the ILC with Jack McCallum,

806
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:59.920
<v Speaker 4>a great basketball writer, and Lewis Moore, who has written

807
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 4>book I believe about the African American quarterbacks. He's a

808
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:08.079
<v Speaker 4>professor in Detroit who he got to come to the

809
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 4>festival this year. So you're going to be busy.

810
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.039
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, No, those are all great people.

811
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm super excited, very nice, very nice. And you think

812
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>you said you've been here before. What school did, what

813
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 2>colleges did you go to? And you did you always

814
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 2>want to be a writer?

815
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

816
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 13>So I started out at Lewis and Clark College in Oregon.

817
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 13>I played basketball there and then I transferred after my

818
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 13>first year to Occidental College and that's where I graduated

819
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 13>in twenty thirteen. So I definitely didn't want to be

820
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 13>a writer.

821
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea.

822
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 13>I wanted to be a WNBA player, and you know,

823
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:42.960
<v Speaker 13>I pushed it as far as I could go, and

824
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.199
<v Speaker 13>you know, went through a lot with that. But you

825
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 13>know it was when I transferred that I really decided.

826
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 13>You know, hey, I think sports journalism could be a

827
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 13>great way for me to stay in basketball and pursue

828
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 13>this new passion I have, which is writing and reading.

829
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Very nice, and you become a better writer by reading,

830
00:37:58.360 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 2>right right.

831
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, if I could just read books all.

832
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 4>Day would be.

833
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:06.119
<v Speaker 3>Good for you.

834
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.159
<v Speaker 2>You'll have a great time, and obviously you've been here before,

835
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:09.599
<v Speaker 2>and you'll meet some other great writers.

836
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, thank you, thanks for joining us

837
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.679
<v Speaker 3>so much. Good luck to you. You'll sell a lot

838
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 3>of books. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thanks.

839
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Mary Vader.

840
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that's that's awesome that she uh, she's coming back,

841
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 4>and she was definitely a crowd favorite when she was

842
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 4>here a couple of years ago. I think people are

843
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.679
<v Speaker 4>going to enjoy, you know, hearing from her and looking

844
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 4>at her books and people we got tons of sports

845
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.199
<v Speaker 4>fans and basketball is right right in her wheel had

846
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.920
<v Speaker 4>and she's fairly young. She's like thirty three, thirty four.

847
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:41.559
<v Speaker 4>She's very young, just getting started.

848
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:43.280
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, they're not young anymore.

849
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 2>That's not young because she's already in a second book,

850
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 2>good Subjects. My whole thing is maybe I was spoiled

851
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>because I had Loot to talk to you, right, yeah,

852
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 2>and him to come with me for the Who's that

853
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:53.920
<v Speaker 2>he's the author.

854
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't want him.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to cheer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, it's kind of you know, and she

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<v Speaker 4>was hedging on her her next books, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it'll be another basketball book.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it'll be an ever another player from Africa. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>take a break, dame.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask you a weird question, but you may

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the I says and ohs. This is

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<v Speaker 1>I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box sportsporteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray, welcome back to my on the ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera, Dave Silver, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for getting Aaron. She was fun, yep, smart obviously. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you had a chance to write a book, Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>will you write it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting that she's picking especially Hakeem who really has

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<v Speaker 4>not really been on the spotlight right but in a

937
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 4>number of years and he retired I think two thousand

938
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<v Speaker 4>and two.

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<v Speaker 3>You know he's been gone for twenty over twenty years. Miss,

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<v Speaker 3>is he still in Houston? She didn't say no, she said,

941
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<v Speaker 3>I think I think he is probably, Yeah, I mean

942
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<v Speaker 3>that team was. I remember seeing him.

943
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<v Speaker 4>Play in Phoenix a few times in that run where

944
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 4>they won championships. When Jordan retired, you know or whatever,

945
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.400
<v Speaker 4>stepped away for a couple of years and they won

946
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<v Speaker 4>two right, Yeah, and they had that memorable game at

947
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 4>whatever US Airways Arena what it was called where they

948
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<v Speaker 4>beat the Sons and knocked him out and had Kenny

949
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<v Speaker 4>Smith on that team.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're talking him mid eighties to no, this is

951
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<v Speaker 3>the nineties.

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00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.079
<v Speaker 2>There was they had to run in the eighties too,

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<v Speaker 2>where Drexler and yeah in that group Ember because I

954
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<v Speaker 2>can't remember who they were the best team in the West.

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00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Who were they playing, not Boston maybe Boston when I

956
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<v Speaker 2>was a kid, nineteen eighty five, eighties time they did.

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<v Speaker 4>When they had Ralph Sampson. Yeah, then that had the

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<v Speaker 4>Twin Towers with him and a team for a bit

959
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<v Speaker 4>and that didn't last too long.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, no, but you're right when they when when Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>when Jordan retired, they had that window of opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, and he you know, he did quite well that

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<v Speaker 4>he was obviously, like she said, you know, he's probably

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<v Speaker 4>a top five center of all time when you look

965
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<v Speaker 4>at his number and championships, and he's in the Hall

966
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<v Speaker 4>of Fame of course, right, So it'll be fun to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of be here a person.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, are you going to you're what's your part?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell people what your part is.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been part of It's called the Book an Author Committee.

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<v Speaker 4>So our job was to basically get the people to come,

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<v Speaker 4>get the authors to show up and come. And we

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<v Speaker 4>looked at many, many authors from around the world who

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<v Speaker 4>have decided to come here, and they're all divvied up

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<v Speaker 4>into different sections and different genres of books, and so

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<v Speaker 4>how many put together?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm put together in panels.

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<v Speaker 4>So, like I mentioned, she's going to be in a

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<v Speaker 4>panel with a couple other authors, and she's also going

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<v Speaker 4>to have one moment or a half hour or so

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<v Speaker 4>where she's going to sign it all by herself.

982
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<v Speaker 3>So they do the panels.

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<v Speaker 4>The panels last about fifty five minutes. Then they come

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<v Speaker 4>out of their panels and then they sign sign books.

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<v Speaker 2>How many of how many people were like you doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to arrange.

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<v Speaker 3>We had about I want to say, around seventy five.

988
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<v Speaker 3>Really it's a big group. Is it all local or no?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, pretty much. The people volunteer pretty much are local.

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00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:04.280
<v Speaker 4>I suppose we could have done that job kind of

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<v Speaker 4>remotely because you're you're really reaching out to authors and

992
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<v Speaker 4>to publicists, and.

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00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 3>Why would they I mean, I'm just hypothetical. Who would.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they didn't, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Very few did turn you down. Honestly, they want to

996
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<v Speaker 4>they want to go. I mean it's a chance, you know,

997
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<v Speaker 4>it's an expense to whom, to the authors in cases

998
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<v Speaker 4>it's there. Yeah, I mean the Book Festival does a

999
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<v Speaker 4>really good job of helping some of the authors come,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, for financial things with you know, hotels and

1001
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<v Speaker 4>transportation and things like that for some of the authors,

1002
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<v Speaker 4>but not all of them. And many come pay their

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<v Speaker 4>own pay their own way. Well, if they sell a

1004
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<v Speaker 4>bunch of books, it pays pays the way. There's not

1005
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<v Speaker 4>too many of these festivals. I mean, there's there's some

1006
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<v Speaker 4>and she mentioned, you know, Marin mentioned the Los Angeles one,

1007
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.079
<v Speaker 4>which is really the other big one in the West.

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00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 4>I think Tucson has got a reputation if you look

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<v Speaker 4>at some of the you know, last stories written about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Continace Traveler wrote about them, ranking them like one of

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<v Speaker 4>the top ten in the world type book festivals.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a big deal.

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00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 4>C Span comes and televises you know, throughout the weekend

1014
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<v Speaker 4>and they tape theirs some of the say some of

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<v Speaker 4>the panelists and put them on their website so you

1016
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<v Speaker 4>can come, you know, you can go sit there on

1017
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<v Speaker 4>Saturday and not even go to the Sea Span ones.

1018
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<v Speaker 3>And watch them, you know, next week.

1019
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 2>So are you done?

1020
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<v Speaker 3>Are you done?

1021
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<v Speaker 4>Are you still or done getting getting the authors? And

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<v Speaker 4>you said, I think Jay's going to be doing something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.800
<v Speaker 4>So there's moderators and many most of them are local

1025
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<v Speaker 4>people that you know, you know, we know like a

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<v Speaker 4>Jay Gonzalez and Elliott Glixman and some of my friends

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<v Speaker 4>that I know. I'm in a group of people and

1028
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<v Speaker 4>we know a bunch of them that are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be moderators, and it's going to be it'll be fun

1030
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<v Speaker 4>for them to you know, go off and talk about

1031
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<v Speaker 4>things that they know about. If you're an attorney or

1032
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<v Speaker 4>if you're into entertainment, or you're into the environment or medicine,

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<v Speaker 4>things like that. I mean, there's so many things to

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<v Speaker 4>choose from. The Daily Star does a great job of

1035
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<v Speaker 4>promoting it, along with the University of Arizona, which of

1036
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<v Speaker 4>course is where it's held, and TMC is a big sponsort.

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<v Speaker 3>It's free, free. Yeah, I've been to last three. Yeah,

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00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 3>I've been to a bunch. I mean it's free. It's

1039
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<v Speaker 3>it's really fun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Did did the I want to ask, is I think

1041
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<v Speaker 2>you can say it publicly? Did my situation that.

1042
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<v Speaker 3>You told me? I don't know. I honestly don't know.

1043
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<v Speaker 3>It may still be.

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<v Speaker 4>Paid for this sun No, it could be for this Sunday. No, truly, Yeah,

1045
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<v Speaker 4>I think I don't know. I don't know, Okay, I

1046
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<v Speaker 4>know that the years in a Daily Start put out

1047
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<v Speaker 4>a big special section in there this past Sunday, which

1048
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<v Speaker 4>is always good.

1049
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<v Speaker 2>Go through it.

1050
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 3>I looked at it online. Yeah, it's good. Okay.

1051
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess they're part of the availab. They're going

1052
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<v Speaker 2>to be available at the event.

1053
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<v Speaker 4>Exactly when you get there. Definitely when you get there

1054
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<v Speaker 4>pick up that also. Of course, there's an app if

1055
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<v Speaker 4>you're into that to some festival of books. App is fantastic.

1056
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 4>It's got maps and it's got all the schedules like

1057
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 4>the things I was just reading off about Marin's schedule

1058
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<v Speaker 4>is all on those apps.

1059
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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny, say, if you're into that, us old

1060
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<v Speaker 2>dudes are not into that. You need the paper where

1061
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<v Speaker 2>you go, Gertrude, we got to take a left right

1062
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<v Speaker 2>twenty three exactly.

1063
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's usually how I approach it.

1064
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<v Speaker 4>I usually kind of take a little list with me

1065
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<v Speaker 4>when I go, like I want to do ten o'clock

1066
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 4>in this room.

1067
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.519
<v Speaker 2>And every year I go, it switches up and I've

1068
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:22.960
<v Speaker 2>been to one, I've sold a book or two. One

1069
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:24.880
<v Speaker 2>of the ends with Bob Elliott when he came out

1070
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>with his book, and she's been She's here for two days, right,

1071
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 2>so they're here multiple days, not just one day.

1072
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Gone.

1073
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it depends.

1074
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.480
<v Speaker 4>She's one of the one of those who will be

1075
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 4>signing and talking three three different times.

1076
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.679
<v Speaker 3>So two days some don't. I mean it's some it's

1077
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 3>their call.

1078
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1079
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.119
<v Speaker 4>They'll tell you I don't want to do two, or

1080
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:51.280
<v Speaker 4>I want to do three. No more than three is

1081
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 4>generally as much as they'll go.

1082
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:56.880
<v Speaker 3>So who's the book? It begins at ten ten am

1083
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.519
<v Speaker 3>on Saturday and runs like through fives free free both days.

1084
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Plenty of walking, you can walk meet people.

1085
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Watch.

1086
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:06.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a lot of a lot of that. I mean,

1087
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:08.960
<v Speaker 4>you got you know, Maureen Dowd from the New York

1088
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Times is going to be here. She's going to have

1089
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:15.320
<v Speaker 4>a session with our friend David fitz Simmons, who you know,

1090
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 4>we all know is the editorial cartoonist to the Star

1091
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 4>for years, who he's going to be there. And Governor

1092
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:22.519
<v Speaker 4>Gretchen Whittmer is coming in from Michigan. She's she's got

1093
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.400
<v Speaker 4>a book out, she'll be there. Scott Tureau who wrote

1094
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 4>Presumed Innocent. That he's a you know, attorney who's written

1095
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:31.880
<v Speaker 4>tons of you know, law books, novels.

1096
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.000
<v Speaker 3>He's going to come cool, cool, cool, cool. So who

1097
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 3>would you write your book on if you have to.

1098
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 4>I still am thinking about that. Your time, like a

1099
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:44.239
<v Speaker 4>biography on somebody. Yeah, if you have a ches, you

1100
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.320
<v Speaker 4>get to meet the person. You may not you may

1101
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 4>not want to quote. He might not be like the

1102
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:50.519
<v Speaker 4>king you can't talk to.

1103
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:52.800
<v Speaker 3>She wrote, like a biography on him without he had

1104
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:53.840
<v Speaker 3>no assistance for.

1105
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>That's well, assistance yeah, but not his voice. Yeah yeah,

1106
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.280
<v Speaker 2>not his voice. I know I would have a heart time.

1107
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 2>But she's right, you know, my last book with Loot

1108
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 2>was nothing participated. It was everybody else's thoughts on Yeah. Yeah,

1109
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 2>so I guess, yeah.

1110
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:13.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I've never really thought about writing a

1111
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:15.840
<v Speaker 3>book about anybody. No, but you let me go back then.

1112
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 2>So your stories that you've done when you were in

1113
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.199
<v Speaker 2>the in the TV business, Ye, your stories were shorter,

1114
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 2>shorter form than longer form.

1115
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1116
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Who was one of your better longer form stories, you

1117
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:28.880
<v Speaker 2>know if that makes any sense, because you had to

1118
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:29.440
<v Speaker 2>do specials.

1119
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1120
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 4>So one thing that I've always been fascinated by is

1121
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 4>kind of the history of Tucson sports, just in terms of,

1122
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:42.639
<v Speaker 4>like I don't know how far I go back, but

1123
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 4>say maybe the early nineteen hundreds and just kind of

1124
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:50.719
<v Speaker 4>start tracing how things were going. It is interesting high

1125
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.800
<v Speaker 4>schools were really the only thing we had, I guess

1126
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:56.679
<v Speaker 4>maybe dirt, dirt, playing fields, shields. Yeah, and then you

1127
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 4>look at well it's Tucson Highs. You know, baseball team

1128
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.679
<v Speaker 4>one like every state champ they did, and they did

1129
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 4>they won all those chance That was always something a

1130
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:04.400
<v Speaker 4>bit interesting.

1131
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Well interesting you say that because I did that for

1132
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the blue Book that I did, you know, the blue

1133
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Book with it looked like a coffee table book cofage

1134
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:16.320
<v Speaker 2>its one hundred top games up until two thousand whatever

1135
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:18.320
<v Speaker 2>it was. And that's what I found out. It was

1136
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:24.280
<v Speaker 2>like peach basket stuff of dirt, dirt, floor games, all

1137
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:24.960
<v Speaker 2>all these things.

1138
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 3>How they just kind of made do.

1139
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know, and Freddy Ink, Freddink the son, Freddie

1140
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:33.719
<v Speaker 2>the Dad was very good. But Freddick Junior was like

1141
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the star of the city at Tucson High. He was

1142
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 2>dominated when to World War Two, came back, dominated here

1143
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 2>and then become this basketball guru and football guru.

1144
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:43.360
<v Speaker 15>Yeah.

1145
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, Tucson was small town and a

1146
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.239
<v Speaker 4>lot of different types of people living here that weren't

1147
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:51.119
<v Speaker 4>maybe some weren't even allowed to go to the schools

1148
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:51.800
<v Speaker 4>and play publicly.

1149
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Things like that didn't happen, like.

1150
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 4>In the uf A didn't have any African American athletes

1151
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:57.800
<v Speaker 4>till what the fifties because it.

1152
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.039
<v Speaker 2>Was a god, the red red.

1153
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:02.079
<v Speaker 3>God.

1154
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've written a bottle without how do he read?

1155
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:05.639
<v Speaker 3>Had he read?

1156
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:05.920
<v Speaker 2>He read?

1157
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.840
<v Speaker 3>I think's nineteen fifty eight ish, right, Yeah, So I

1158
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:09.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

1159
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.960
<v Speaker 4>I love just even you know, when there's old NBA

1160
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 4>games on or Major League Baseball games, I just love

1161
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:17.519
<v Speaker 4>to watch this stuff just to see how it was

1162
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:19.639
<v Speaker 4>broadcast or how the players play.

1163
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, have you talked to I'm sure you have the God.

1164
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I'm blanking out. I do know

1165
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 2>why because I'm old. But the highest score in New

1166
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:33.760
<v Speaker 2>A history for the game. He's in San Diego, Tucson

1167
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.119
<v Speaker 2>native Ernie McCrae.

1168
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:36.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean he.

1169
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, yeah, a few times. You know, he's in

1170
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the books. A well spoken man, bright as all. Heck,

1171
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:48.920
<v Speaker 2>he's in San Diego now, author, he loves poetry. But

1172
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:50.719
<v Speaker 2>he kind of lived through that and told you how

1173
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 2>difficult it was. But back in the day, Yeah, I

1174
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:54.360
<v Speaker 2>think that'd be a good book. Why don't we think

1175
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:55.639
<v Speaker 2>about putting together?

1176
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 3>Put that together? Anybody? He would write it, Yeah, he

1177
00:52:58.159 --> 00:52:59.960
<v Speaker 3>would write. We need to get, you know, the stories

1178
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:01.159
<v Speaker 3>from these people before they go.

1179
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's so many, so many, like you said, in

1180
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the fifties, forties, fifties, most of them in the forties.

1181
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, well, if not all of them are gone the

1182
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 3>fifties and sixties.

1183
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1184
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:11.920
<v Speaker 2>You know the guy who would have a lot of

1185
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:16.519
<v Speaker 2>knowledge was coach Larsen. Yeah, Coach Larson. I went to

1186
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:18.480
<v Speaker 2>him when I was doing one of my books. Him

1187
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and his wife gave me access to all their pressure.

1188
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.079
<v Speaker 2>It was tons of stuff. Mister Inky did too.

1189
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Just kind of just here. It is just Freddy fred Junior.

1190
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Which they live in. They live in him someone in

1191
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:34.719
<v Speaker 3>the cotton fields.

1192
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he came down and maybe he was he's going

1193
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:38.519
<v Speaker 4>in the p MC County Sports Hall of Fame or

1194
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:40.719
<v Speaker 4>something like that, and he came in for that, so

1195
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:42.519
<v Speaker 4>it was kind of fun to meet him.

1196
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's kind of weird. I don't know if it

1197
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.960
<v Speaker 2>felt with to you, but you're seeing these dudes. These

1198
00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.719
<v Speaker 2>dudes are these people who are like iconic, like, wow,

1199
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:54.679
<v Speaker 2>you're still alive and you look good, you know what

1200
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Name schools after this guy, right, golf courses

1201
00:53:57.519 --> 00:53:59.880
<v Speaker 2>right right beyond famous there.

1202
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like wow, that's great.

1203
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.679
<v Speaker 4>You know, we're lucky we have their next generations are

1204
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 4>around too to tell their stories and maybe just you know,

1205
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:11.239
<v Speaker 4>remind them, hey, this was my grandfather. Like Lacey Nimeier, Yeah,

1206
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.840
<v Speaker 4>the great swimmer here in her family's got all kinds

1207
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:15.920
<v Speaker 4>of generations.

1208
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.880
<v Speaker 3>A couple, dad and grandpa. You're exactly right, and then

1209
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.079
<v Speaker 3>she can tell stories about that. So it's good we

1210
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 3>have people like that. Yeah, yeah, I know you're right though.

1211
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:24.880
<v Speaker 3>That name too came out a few times.

1212
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Lincoln's, Lincoln Richmond's, and you heard that he

1213
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 2>was probably the best player, the best player back in

1214
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 2>those days to ever play the game in the forties

1215
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.159
<v Speaker 2>and the fifties around around tu Son, Lincoln Richmond. And

1216
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people that played in Morana, the

1217
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 2>mayor of Marana, the Honey's.

1218
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they place.

1219
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were at all the good old days, good days.

1220
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, think about that. Okay, we write a book.

1221
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have about two left to me. I have

1222
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:53.639
<v Speaker 2>two in my head already. I'm starting to think about.

1223
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:56.719
<v Speaker 2>But they're not easy. They think about it almost eight

1224
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:57.280
<v Speaker 2>nine months.

1225
00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she said she talked to two hundred and sixty

1226
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 4>people that ain't Can you imagine and guess what a

1227
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.639
<v Speaker 4>lot of it gets left on the cutting room floor,

1228
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 4>right right, Ye,
