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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to your Eye on the
Speaker 2: Ball and you're on Fox Sports fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,
Speaker 2: They're David Silver. Are you doing it?
Speaker 3: I'm doing well.
Speaker 2: I'm rocking out. I'm the DJ. Okay you sound good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Hey it's Wednesday. You were just here Monday. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: almost irregular. Niko's gonna say you've paid them yet? I know,
Speaker 2: really was that gonna start happening? No, it was great.
Speaker 3: Monday Night had to be one of the highlights of
Speaker 3: the sports years so far, the early early January. That
Speaker 3: was quite a quit a game, quite a what a night,
Speaker 3: what a shot.
Speaker 2: Right now they were doomed. They were dooming all they
Speaker 2: were doing. Yeah, they're doom They should not have won
Speaker 2: that game.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it was one of those games again
Speaker 3: and you're there, I'm watching it's one of those Uh
Speaker 3: you know, I know it's getting late. Is this game
Speaker 3: gonna you know the time you stay up?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Get out of there about twelve o'clock exactly twelve o'clock,
Speaker 2: and we hadn't written yet. Yeah, I hadn't written yet.
Speaker 2: So let me let me put this scenario to you. So, uh,
Speaker 2: you're You're Dave Silver, and people are asking you before
Speaker 2: this game, before a few of the games, how good
Speaker 2: is this team? How good do you think they are?
Speaker 2: Before this game?
Speaker 3: Don't I thought they were getting better in the last
Speaker 3: you know whatever or five weeks. I mean they're been
Speaker 3: obviously their records much better than it was in the
Speaker 3: first month. So yeah, I mean there was positive signs there.
Speaker 3: How good are they going to be? Can they beat
Speaker 3: the number three team in the country. I wasn't quite sure.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody was before the game started, but
Speaker 3: you know, I think they showed kind of the way
Speaker 3: Arizona plays at home forever, you know, they just kind
Speaker 3: of they can contend with anybody.
Speaker 2: Good point, because I say that all the time. Give
Speaker 2: Arizona a challenge, they show up, Yeah, give them a say,
Speaker 2: we just have to show up and win. They play
Speaker 2: like that, and that wasn't the case. I'm money. The
Speaker 2: reason I ask you is because for the last two
Speaker 2: three weeks, when I go out of people. They obviously
Speaker 2: recognize me with the crowd I hang out, and I
Speaker 2: tell them they haven't played anybody yet. I've said it
Speaker 2: on the show before too, right with us, they haven't
Speaker 2: really played anybody, maybe outside of Baylor. They bake Baylor here.
Speaker 2: So I said, you know, we will know when they
Speaker 2: play Iowa State. And I've been saying this for three weeks,
Speaker 2: that will know when they play Ia State. And every
Speaker 2: time I see them, this is you still think they're
Speaker 2: not any good And they're like seven zero, right, and
Speaker 2: then they and then they go eight, and then then
Speaker 2: they lose and then they whatever. And I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: we won't know until they play Iowa State. And last
Speaker 2: Sunday or Sunday, I ran into that group and they said,
Speaker 2: what do you think even though they're doing a seven
Speaker 2: to one or whatever I did, we'll know when they
Speaker 2: play Iowa State. So next time I see them, next time,
Speaker 2: I'm sure, says how do you feel now? How do
Speaker 2: you feel now? I don't feel any different, only inasmuch
Speaker 2: as they were able to do what they needed to do.
Speaker 2: But they should have lost that game, honestly.
Speaker 3: They Sometimes that's the sign of teams that have something
Speaker 3: going their way maybe who knows. I mean, that was obviously,
Speaker 3: you know, once in a lifetime shot.
Speaker 2: But they should have lost. But you know that said,
Speaker 2: even if they lost, and and and Brian Peterson tried
Speaker 2: to pose that question to Tommy, you know, hypothetical, had
Speaker 2: you lost, how would you feel about I think deep
Speaker 2: down he would say, you know what, we played pretty
Speaker 2: damn good and lost to the number three team in
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 3: And they hung with them. They really did. They were
Speaker 3: with them the entire the entire game. Nobody really had
Speaker 3: much of a lead. I think maybe Arizona had somewhat
Speaker 3: of a lead every once in once in a while.
Speaker 3: But you know, I always state was tough. They've they've
Speaker 3: obviously played in some difficult environments in their season already,
Speaker 3: and yeah, this was their their first look at Michael
Speaker 3: sent So.
Speaker 2: After that game, it comes Tuesday and you're with your
Speaker 2: group of people. I don't know if.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually we were. We were talking about it and
Speaker 3: what they say, Yeah, they were, well, they were excited.
Speaker 3: I don't think they look at it as closely as
Speaker 3: maybe you and I do, but they were, Hey, wait
Speaker 3: with the game, would you think I mean, for ten minutes,
Speaker 3: that's all they wanted to talk about. Was just the
Speaker 3: game last night. And there are more fans to rights
Speaker 3: and they've been around. These are people who've lived in
Speaker 3: Tucson for a long time and they've many of them
Speaker 3: are alumni, so they have some vested interest in it
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: They were excited, Yeah, as they should be, and beats
Speaker 2: the alternative of not winning, right, right. But here's the
Speaker 2: catch to And we've seen this number of times, Dave,
Speaker 2: how many times? I know Sean did it a few times?
Speaker 2: They win big games, go up north and get beat Yeah,
Speaker 2: when he left, he was like five and five against
Speaker 2: them up there was he really and he had pretty
Speaker 2: damn good teams. Of course. Oh look, was that last
Speaker 2: year of the year before when the guy hit the
Speaker 2: same type of shots?
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 2: Was it last year the year before? I mean a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago when Arizona gave the Hurley some
Speaker 2: grief on the sidelines and then he went back to
Speaker 2: give them grief because they hit the shot.
Speaker 3: And as U last night, you know, Colorado is still winless.
Speaker 3: They beat him, they you know, they knocked off Colorado
Speaker 3: on the road last night. So issue got a few
Speaker 3: wins here here and there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're capable up there to knock up your
Speaker 2: Arizona because invariably, if Arizona doesn't show up under any
Speaker 2: condition or whatever conditions, they'll get beat. Because if you're
Speaker 2: they're challenged, Uh, they're challenge they play out of their mind.
Speaker 2: If they're not challenged, they don't play out of their mind.
Speaker 3: They've had a couple of challenges. Obviously the Texas Tech
Speaker 3: game on the road, they were they were tight, tight,
Speaker 3: and then the last ten minutes they got far apart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Duke Duke here, I think that's the
Speaker 2: one game that you can kind of look back and
Speaker 2: they didn't go mono on mono with Duke. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was maybe too early, but he just that's the one
Speaker 2: game that they failed to kind of show.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it's funny how basketball works too with matchups and
Speaker 3: things like that, where you know, Dolorso has this ridiculous
Speaker 3: game a couple of games ago against coll against Colorado
Speaker 3: and then the other night he barely was on the court,
Speaker 3: you know. Or it's funny how just you know, maybe
Speaker 3: it just wasn't his style. They would call it. Colorado
Speaker 3: played that zone defense. He's a great outside shooter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I always he's playing more man and man in
Speaker 3: your face, and he just wasn't gonna get open.
Speaker 2: So where I was going with this with your group?
Speaker 2: And they probably, like you said, don't watch it as closely.
Speaker 2: H my group, well, yesterday we were rather function you
Speaker 2: and I and some of the people that they talked to.
Speaker 2: They said, oh, what do you think about Arizona now?
Speaker 2: And I told them the same thing. And then he says,
Speaker 2: you know what, that Iowa State team is a Final
Speaker 2: four team. I don't disagree they have that. They have
Speaker 2: that in them because you saw how tough they were.
Speaker 2: One of their best players had a horrible game, and
Speaker 2: they were kind of missing somebody. Somebody else's hurt. Tommy said, right,
Speaker 2: Tommy said, so that team is pretty damn good. It's
Speaker 2: like obidding on a horse that's that's a very very
Speaker 2: very good horse, but doesn't fire that day and and
Speaker 2: you know, finish his third and then you know the
Speaker 2: next race is to kill it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: And watching some of these teams, the Cats, you know,
Speaker 3: they like we talked about Baylor. Baylor played in tough
Speaker 3: last night against BYU and lost on the road. You know,
Speaker 3: Arizona took care of them also, you know, on their
Speaker 3: home court. But they've got Kansas coming up next. Yes,
Speaker 3: I mean it's at Baylor.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I would venture I guess that Baylor
Speaker 2: beats Kansas. People don't understand and did you didn't go
Speaker 2: very much onto the road games right now? And if
Speaker 2: there's one thing I learned that was it it's tough
Speaker 2: to win on the road, no matter where you're at.
Speaker 3: It was great though, whenever when I was there. There's
Speaker 3: a few times I remember I went to UCLA one
Speaker 3: time in Arizona one. I went to San Diego State,
Speaker 3: and I think it was one of the loots last
Speaker 3: years when Luke Walton was still there. It was kind
Speaker 3: of a big deal for him to be back in
Speaker 3: San Diego and Arizona one there, that was a big one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to be very very good, Uh, to
Speaker 2: win on the road, Wasn't.
Speaker 3: That kind of Loot's thing, you know, like try to
Speaker 3: go five and five in fact ten those years, you know,
Speaker 3: win half your games and stay you know, perfect at home.
Speaker 2: And which are the ones that gave him the most grief?
Speaker 2: It was the Washington States, the Oregon States. It was
Speaker 2: the teams that his guys didn't get up.
Speaker 3: For and there usually be some kind of gimmicky defense
Speaker 3: or something that those teams were almost desperate to do.
Speaker 3: It seemed like, you know, when they went had to
Speaker 3: have with Stanford, those were some classic games. There were
Speaker 3: so many, you know, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: But Stanford was on their par with with Mike Montgomery.
Speaker 2: You know, they were in the park. It was the
Speaker 2: Oregon States, it was the Cows. It was those teams
Speaker 2: that you have to say, come on, guys, you gotta play.
Speaker 3: Better combination of the team and the environment. And yeah, maybe,
Speaker 3: oh he just knocked off UCLA. Now you got to
Speaker 3: go play usc There's gonna be three thousand fans in
Speaker 3: the stadium, and it's just not the same.
Speaker 2: And then some dude that you've never heard of comes
Speaker 2: up with a thirty two point game, you know, and
Speaker 2: then you never hear from him again.
Speaker 3: Who was that guy?
Speaker 2: Oh he's selling you know, he's a salesman now, yeah,
Speaker 2: so insurance. Well he was actually selling the shurts that day. Yeah, yeah, okay, no,
Speaker 2: thanks for being here, Dave. Sure another day, another dollar here,
Speaker 2: We're going to have Pete Williams here. In about ten minutes,
Speaker 2: we had him here about a month ago. I think
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to him just about the situation,
Speaker 2: what's going on with the team and Awaka. I know
Speaker 2: that they're not similar players, but they're similar players, but
Speaker 2: they're not similarly built. But Awaka does what Pete Williams
Speaker 2: did many many years ago. Yeah, their stat lines are
Speaker 2: probably very similar.
Speaker 3: Especially a walk would last what three or four games,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, there's a little more offense there.
Speaker 3: He you know, basically he'd been just kind of cleaning
Speaker 3: up on the boards and doing some putbacks, but he
Speaker 3: was hitting a little get a little bit more outside
Speaker 3: of his range.
Speaker 2: If you get maybe eight ten from him, eight ten,
Speaker 2: guess what he's doing, and then he's getting like twelve
Speaker 2: to sixteen and rebounds.
Speaker 3: That's a double bonus. That's a big game, Yes, a
Speaker 3: huge game. Henry's kind of been up and down really
Speaker 3: in the last I don't know, three weeks. Sure, sure,
Speaker 3: but you know the Knights there, they've they've complimented each
Speaker 3: other in some ways. You know, Owaka will play, come out,
Speaker 3: Henry will come in. I mean, back and forth they go,
Speaker 3: let's see who can.
Speaker 2: Produce right and if it's and what the game before.
Speaker 2: I think it wasn't when they did that story with
Speaker 2: the talents and Owaka and and and on, they'll dill
Speaker 2: or so because if those three dudes show up and
Speaker 2: then you have the other guys, you know, the Uh,
Speaker 2: the uh, the TJ, the kJ, the Jaden's and the
Speaker 2: and the loves, those three come together, this team could
Speaker 2: be very very good. So but now you're asking for
Speaker 2: six seven, you're asking for the team to play very
Speaker 2: very well. Yeah, and you know that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I mean again, looking at those box scores, and I
Speaker 3: don't know, I can't always tell just by that, but
Speaker 3: I mean even Love wound up with over twenty points
Speaker 3: the other right, and it was he was not very
Speaker 3: good until the last had six eleven eleven in the
Speaker 3: last five point one seconds exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he made what threes and those two
Speaker 2: free throws? I think, yeah, yeah, so you know he
Speaker 2: can and he's capable of that. The thing is, it's
Speaker 2: funny because I asked him that question, how could you
Speaker 2: be really good? No, no, really bad, really bad, really
Speaker 2: bad and missing those shots and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden be really good, really good, really good.
Speaker 3: You know, there's no rhyme or reason to it sometimes
Speaker 3: and you just have to let him play and see
Speaker 3: what kind of what happens.
Speaker 2: Especially especially from a god that came who who missed?
Speaker 2: Who missed a bunch? He was one and one for
Speaker 2: ten right before you hit that. Every who are who shooting?
Speaker 2: Maybe twenty one footers, twenty two footers, nineteen footers, YadA, YadA,
Speaker 2: And then he only hits one of those and then
Speaker 2: hits the fifty five foot shot.
Speaker 3: That's amazing, amaze that happens sports.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick call here, Let's see what happens. Hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the air and eye on the ball. Who's this.
Speaker 6: Is this?
Speaker 7: Hey buddy, it's Rick?
Speaker 5: Rick?
Speaker 2: What's going on? But Donald or something? This is two
Speaker 2: days in a row?
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, Am I listening to yesterday's show on
Speaker 7: the radio?
Speaker 3: I think we talked about this on Monday? Didn't what's up?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 4: Are you guys live?
Speaker 2: You called us? You called us? We're live? Are you alive?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Hey Dave Hi.
Speaker 2: The only thing about.
Speaker 7: That game to impress me other than the final shirt,
Speaker 7: you know, shot it before the regulation. So the defense
Speaker 7: that Arizona played, I haven't seen them play with that
Speaker 7: much intensity and then in overtime, if they were to
Speaker 7: play that way for forty minutes, that is one heck
Speaker 7: of a basketball team.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they have about they have about fifteen eighteen
Speaker 2: games left. I bet you you don't get seven of
Speaker 2: those games.
Speaker 7: Well even you know, they played faster with the ball,
Speaker 7: moving around location when they had the ball. They weren't
Speaker 7: walking up and just start a lot of ganging around.
Speaker 7: And number two, but the defense for the whole game,
Speaker 7: but that overtime defense, that was just very, very impressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteen steals yet I mean at thirteen steels, which
Speaker 2: is a pretty big number.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's just but they were in those
Speaker 7: guys grill even without a steel, those guys, they didn't
Speaker 7: look like the same Iowa was eighteen. They played in
Speaker 7: the first five six minutes, I think Arizona showed that
Speaker 7: they could play up in their chest, they could play physical,
Speaker 7: and they weren't intimidated by anybody. And I have tipped
Speaker 7: my hat off to coach for getting them defensively in
Speaker 7: a position to be so good. Like you said, if
Speaker 7: they'd lost the game, they'd have lost to a top
Speaker 7: final fourteen. But the fact that they more important. They
Speaker 7: played defense like they're willing to do what it takes to.
Speaker 2: Get to the top. So yeah, yeah, no question they
Speaker 2: earned it. Yeah all right, Rick, thanks so much. Your
Speaker 2: live You're thank you, I'm alive. Goodbuye.
Speaker 3: No, he's right, he's right there. They were in their faith.
Speaker 3: There was definitely a definitely a feeling of intensity on
Speaker 3: defense that you haven't seen often with the u of A.
Speaker 3: And they played strong on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3: They had sick like I said, thirteen steals. They didn't
Speaker 3: have a whole time of fouls. You know the game
Speaker 3: maybe that's big twelve officials, although they were saying these
Speaker 3: officials were from everywhere, Yeah they are. The broadcaster said, like,
Speaker 3: this is a Final four type crew. I mean there
Speaker 3: were some names yeah there the I even recognize.
Speaker 2: So you know, the game is called well right, and
Speaker 2: it's it's one big pool now of refs. Let me
Speaker 2: let me say this. The one thing that was kind
Speaker 2: of maybe understold in the game was Love's defense on
Speaker 2: their best scorer. He didn't do a good job. I mean,
Speaker 2: the guy didn't do a good scoring baskets. Love did
Speaker 2: a pretty good dog defensively.
Speaker 3: Yeah, defensively, it was pretty good. I mean Bradley had
Speaker 3: how many steels?
Speaker 2: Seven? I think?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, how many times have you said
Speaker 2: Love did a pretty good doug job defensively? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Ever, kJ you know coming off the bench, he paid
Speaker 3: thirty seven minutes. You know that was he's not a bench.
Speaker 3: I mean, he doesn't like what.
Speaker 2: Is dill orso barely three fours non factor, no not factor.
Speaker 2: Well didn't score, Yeah, you might be taken maybe two
Speaker 2: three shots.
Speaker 3: I mean after what he had twenty Yeah, the game before.
Speaker 2: Right, well, it kind of shows there's no retrue leader,
Speaker 2: which is I guess fine. Uh, but they're all kind
Speaker 2: of stepping up in their own way.
Speaker 3: I mean, again, as I said a few minutes ago,
Speaker 3: I think the fact that Colorado played that zone defense
Speaker 3: kind of opened things up for him. Yeah, he's the
Speaker 3: kind of guy that you need to be able to
Speaker 3: knock down a shot, get past the ball in the middle,
Speaker 3: passed the ball outside, Marius standing are wide open?
Speaker 2: Possibly, So right with that, With that, we're going to
Speaker 2: take a break here, get ahold of Pete Williams and
Speaker 2: talk more about basketball.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to win the Ball hero Fox Sports
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Speaker 2: I want to pub we have former you a guy,
Speaker 2: big guy, Williams Peth Tony, Steve.
Speaker 4: I'm doing great, great, great to be on here with you,
Speaker 4: my man, Dave Silver.
Speaker 3: Could you hear from you again?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes? Hey? You know, uh, you watch the games
Speaker 2: regularly and you do it with a keen eye. I
Speaker 2: think how much I don't I don't know how can
Speaker 2: I say this? Does a wako remind you of anybody?
Speaker 2: And maybe even you? Uh?
Speaker 4: He's he's more of an under the rim player, but
Speaker 4: and obviously he's bigger and stronger than I was. But he, uh,
Speaker 4: what is the given? He works well with it. I
Speaker 4: won't necessarily say he works.
Speaker 2: I mean he's.
Speaker 4: Similar to me because our body frames are different and
Speaker 4: I was more of an above the rim type player,
Speaker 4: where to me, he necessarily isn't. But his motor is awesome.
Speaker 4: That's why he's as effective as he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you were a little bit more versatile
Speaker 3: away from the rim too than he is. But he's
Speaker 3: doing a nice job a getting.
Speaker 4: Really I could.
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 4: I could dribble the ball and get although although he
Speaker 4: had to play the other day on the right side
Speaker 4: he dribbled, I'm like, where's it going? And he got
Speaker 4: to the bucket of leg and then I'm like, wow,
Speaker 4: so hey, we maybe see he's actually involving, evolving into
Speaker 4: something a little more than we expected. But again, I
Speaker 4: wish I would have had, you know, a little more
Speaker 4: pounds on me or whatever. But like him, I had
Speaker 4: to work what I was dealing with and I was
Speaker 4: effective with it.
Speaker 2: So before you say, Dave, so what did you play
Speaker 2: out like? Under two?
Speaker 4: See I don't think I hit two hundred two. I
Speaker 4: was probably maybe thirty five ninety.
Speaker 2: Oh wow wow, and he's got to be about to fifty.
Speaker 2: Maybe I thought something to said two fifty yeah wow.
Speaker 2: So what would you have been ideally? In your mind
Speaker 2: if you had what what was your what would you
Speaker 2: have liked to have been.
Speaker 4: In I'd have loved have been at uh maybe two twenty.
Speaker 4: No really, I don't want to be any more higher.
Speaker 4: And I was just wishful thinking back then. But yeah,
Speaker 4: through twenty I still think I would have been able
Speaker 4: to keep my my quickness, which was, you know, a
Speaker 4: very key part of my gat Sure twenty would have
Speaker 4: been ideal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 3: It's funny how that position is kind of evolving a
Speaker 3: little bit, you know, like your old team, the Nuggets.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at look at Yokich, I mean, what
Speaker 3: what is he? I mean, he's you know, he's shooting
Speaker 3: three pointers, he's putting up thirty points.
Speaker 4: He's just fantastically skilled. So that the physical attributes for
Speaker 4: was athleticism. When you blessed with as much skill as
Speaker 4: he has, Hey Soto, athleticism out the window because he's just.
Speaker 3: Amazing, averaging thirty thirteen rebounds. I mean, it's it's crazy
Speaker 3: and the same.
Speaker 4: No, he better get me over fifty a sist tonight
Speaker 4: or I'm gonna be hot.
Speaker 2: I wonder what I wonder? Why so so can you?
Speaker 2: We're gonna have half a year. On the other side,
Speaker 2: he did a big story on All Sports two sons
Speaker 2: about the big Games. Uh, you were there for the
Speaker 2: mcshot right?
Speaker 11: No shot?
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I've seen highlights. No, I was long.
Speaker 2: You were gone a year later. I guess, David, you
Speaker 2: were there there. I'm trying to.
Speaker 3: Think of what I was doing. I think I was
Speaker 3: covering it. I think we were if I remember, I
Speaker 3: was in the kind of at the very top of
Speaker 3: the lower section, like you know, in the aisle, and
Speaker 3: I saw it happen live. I mean, I remember the
Speaker 3: toss and the catch, and I don't I don't even
Speaker 3: know if we were even on the air. Honestly, I
Speaker 3: cannot remember what I was doing, but I was in
Speaker 3: the arena. It was amazing.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 4: You know, I only wish only with the two shots
Speaker 4: that at Eddie Smith. Yeah, up in ASU, if they
Speaker 4: were in Tucson and they could go in the category
Speaker 4: and some of the best shots you know, clutched outs
Speaker 4: made and Michel center.
Speaker 2: To explain those to me because I was gonna ask
Speaker 2: you about some in al Paso. Yeah, didn't. He didn't
Speaker 2: went through a couple of the lace last second shocks
Speaker 2: in the tournament in al Paso, maybe against Texas.
Speaker 4: That was it was both years up at tim Peek
Speaker 4: and Thesu.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, I was not at the age I
Speaker 3: remember watching. I think I might have been at the
Speaker 3: station on that after it was an afternoon game. If
Speaker 3: I remember the the issue game.
Speaker 2: Jocks, what were those? What were those?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: I Pete, You you know more about him than I do.
Speaker 3: I can't remember him that well. I just remember they
Speaker 3: were what seven points and twenty seconds or something like that.
Speaker 4: I think it was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It was like seven points with like thirty five or
Speaker 4: thirty seven seconds, and we just had a little frenzy,
Speaker 4: got some turnovers. Morgan Taylor hit a big shot the
Speaker 4: last one. I got the deflection that led to Eddie
Speaker 4: Steel when he went to the basket, and I think
Speaker 4: was Bobby Thompson from ASU followed me. He was going
Speaker 4: up and Eddie just slipped the ball up off the
Speaker 4: backboard and it went in and we went still had
Speaker 4: to knock down the free throw, which he did, but
Speaker 4: uh yeah, Eddie much clutched down there. Two years in
Speaker 4: a row in Tempee now and Tucson, we worked them
Speaker 4: up real good. We didn't need those roars at the end.
Speaker 4: But in Tempe both games were really close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, could you talk to the audience? And I know
Speaker 2: this because it's so difficult to win on the road. Why,
Speaker 2: you know, with all things equal, Why.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess, you know, you can throw to the
Speaker 4: human nature aspect of it. If there's a kind of
Speaker 4: walkless cloud or whatever, you know, it can you know,
Speaker 4: I guess kind of get to you. And then it's
Speaker 4: not the same comfort level as playing at home. And
Speaker 4: I can even relate this to you know, even playing
Speaker 4: over in Europe the times your home environment, you're just
Speaker 4: so much more comfortable in there. Although I did kind
Speaker 4: of like going on a road because sometimes you get
Speaker 4: fired up, you know, when the people are really calling
Speaker 4: your names, this type of stuff. But the comfort level
Speaker 4: is just different if you're used to the rims, the
Speaker 4: lighting and all that stuff, and it does make a difference.
Speaker 2: And you talk about human nature. I was telling Dave
Speaker 2: here invariably, Arizona comes up with a huge win against
Speaker 2: some team like they did the next game was a disaster.
Speaker 8: Well, you know what, Like.
Speaker 4: I'm not I can't say I'm not. I think we're
Speaker 4: gonna win on Saturday, But I'm guarded and expressing that opinion,
Speaker 4: you know, because I mean, and she was not bad.
Speaker 4: You know, they really aren't. And we've had some struggles
Speaker 4: up in there, yet we pulled them out, you know,
Speaker 4: at the end or whatever. But I wish I could
Speaker 4: say We're gonna go down there and thump them. But
Speaker 4: I'm just not confident. I think we'll get a win.
Speaker 4: I hope we get a win. I just can't wait
Speaker 4: for Saturday to find out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just seems like it's always a big game
Speaker 3: no matter what whenever, whenever Arizona plays on the road,
Speaker 3: especially the way it was in the Pac twelve. You know,
Speaker 3: they'd have to win against UCLA and then they go
Speaker 3: to USC and they're real letdown. They have a win
Speaker 3: against Stanford and go to cow and struggle. So it's
Speaker 3: it was funny just how that played out exactly.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, I'll phrase it in a
Speaker 2: comfortable way. So what do you like about the team
Speaker 2: right now, and what what concerned you about about the team?
Speaker 4: Well, I think what I like more than eating right
Speaker 4: now is just that the effort across the board is better,
Speaker 4: because as long as you play hard, you give yourself
Speaker 4: a chance. Perimeter shooting is still gonna be my biggest
Speaker 4: concern with the team, perimeter shooting and the decision making.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they got the defense totally figured it out,
Speaker 4: but they're they're really making strides on the defensive end.
Speaker 3: Of the court.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 4: As great as Tobya Walker was on the board, you know,
Speaker 4: I wish some of these other dudes to step up
Speaker 4: and you know, giving some help as well, because we're
Speaker 4: not really you know, a big team other When Big
Speaker 4: Hanker is in there, you know Henry V. So I
Speaker 4: call him Big hank set Big Hankers in there, and
Speaker 4: I want to see him get back to what he
Speaker 4: was a couple of games ago, you know, because he's
Speaker 4: kind of come down a little bit or whatever. But
Speaker 4: I still got high host for this kid. Lazy passes
Speaker 4: and some some things have a hard time figuring out.
Speaker 4: What Well, we still want the game see. If you
Speaker 4: know as well as anybody as much as some of
Speaker 4: these people criticize the cats on social media and that
Speaker 4: or whatever, some things are legitimate. Yeah, you can win
Speaker 4: and still not be happy about it, because you know,
Speaker 4: Tommy got in their buds a couple of games ago,
Speaker 4: because even though they wanted, he wasn't happy neither his
Speaker 4: I lazy cross court passes not just one, not just two,
Speaker 4: but sometimes three. Okay, when are you gonna figure this
Speaker 4: this stuff out? You can't be You can't keep doing
Speaker 4: this as we move along. These things should be long gone. Okay,
Speaker 4: So there wasn't any of that in the Ioway Stay game,
Speaker 4: but a couple of games ago, I know Caleb did
Speaker 4: it and kJ did it. Just lazy cross cord passes
Speaker 4: I think a little too much over dribbling by a guard,
Speaker 4: and they gotta get you can't just be gibbling into
Speaker 4: two or three people just and all of a sudden
Speaker 4: you're tied up, or you're trying to do a bounce
Speaker 4: pass between two or three people. Little things like that
Speaker 4: have to be cleaned up if we're going to improve
Speaker 4: and succeed going further. I like what I'm saying, but
Speaker 4: we still got a ways to go.
Speaker 2: This might be a dumb question because you talk about
Speaker 2: inconsistency from the perimeter shooting, how how comfortable or whatever
Speaker 2: word you want to use, wasn't having occur out there
Speaker 2: as a shooter.
Speaker 4: Oh, it wasn't just Curry, it was it was Steve,
Speaker 4: It was brockt with Craig, you know, come to with
Speaker 4: any of those guys, because I loved it. They throw
Speaker 4: the ball down to me and they collapsed and I
Speaker 4: can find those guys and more times than not they
Speaker 4: gonna knock it down. So, I mean, we had some
Speaker 4: really good shooters, but uh, and when they shot the
Speaker 4: ball was almost to the point where you were surprised
Speaker 4: them missed.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Steve was Steve was the.
Speaker 4: Top of the list. But hey, brock Groun course and
Speaker 4: Craig's middle with great shooters as well. So it does,
Speaker 4: you know, lift your team around when you know you
Speaker 4: guys got on a on a perimeter cannot shot down
Speaker 4: instead of you just hoping they knock them down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because the other night del Orso did
Speaker 3: not score after scoring twenty the night before the game before.
Speaker 3: Is that you think just because the type of defense
Speaker 3: was they were playing up against.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I kind of saw that, saw that coming.
Speaker 4: I would say it was on. Yeah, and even when
Speaker 4: we tried to put the ball on the floor at times,
Speaker 4: it was just that was that was a totally different
Speaker 4: That was the top nice defense right there. So you know,
Speaker 4: we can't pull up up the dude can shoot. You
Speaker 4: got to find ways that they're getting good open looks
Speaker 4: or whatever. But you know, if teams are going to
Speaker 4: be harassing him, get like a Houston Iowa say, it's
Speaker 4: going to be a struggle unless they can find some
Speaker 4: creases for him to get your shots up and putting
Speaker 4: a ball on the floor that's not really an option
Speaker 4: for him against teams like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how would you rate? Okay, so through the first
Speaker 2: nine games or four and five, people were like, you know,
Speaker 2: jumping off the roofs now. Now they are what they are,
Speaker 2: they're eating one in the league, doing really really well.
Speaker 2: Did you think it would take time? I remember in
Speaker 2: your first first years and when Luke got here, it
Speaker 2: took you a while to start kind of feeling comfortable.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but again that's a totally totally different scenarios.
Speaker 2: Of course, the bottom of the barrel, and.
Speaker 4: I think like when Sewd Miller came in the program
Speaker 4: was down, but no, we were bottom of the barrel
Speaker 4: when coach Olsen came in, So that comparison don't work.
Speaker 4: But what I do understand is if the work in progress,
Speaker 4: we're like that little engine that could as time went on,
Speaker 4: you could see the progress and see the progress. We
Speaker 4: had to change the culture and learn. They don't have
Speaker 4: to change the culture because they know how to win.
Speaker 4: We learned how to win. But once they clicked, that's
Speaker 4: when you started rolling, which is what I felt with
Speaker 4: this team all along, because I was going to say,
Speaker 4: you know, we you know we're gonna have our struggles.
Speaker 4: We're gonna make the tourney. I said this way back when,
Speaker 4: even when we were struggling. Yeah, we were struggling against
Speaker 4: some really good.
Speaker 2: Teams or whatever.
Speaker 4: And at the same time we were self destructing. You know,
Speaker 4: once we corrected those things. When this team plays hard
Speaker 4: and they shoot it, I don't I don't have to
Speaker 4: say a great percentage. When they played hard and shoot
Speaker 4: a pretty good percentage, they can compete with anybody, and
Speaker 4: I mean anybody. I s ctually mean that. And the
Speaker 4: confidence is growing. And for all the stuff that Taylor
Speaker 4: has gone through with the shooting and this and that.
Speaker 4: Like I said last year, he's gonna make some big
Speaker 4: shots for us. I wish he would have been in Clemton.
Speaker 4: It just didn't happen. But I still believe in this
Speaker 4: due to he just the shot selection. And this past
Speaker 4: game is iowas say to me, as far as perimeter shot,
Speaker 4: I didn't see him take any bad shots. He just
Speaker 4: missed the shot. Now, a couple of drives to the basket.
Speaker 4: Some of those, well, dude, what were you thinking? But
Speaker 4: if perimeter shooting, even though the percentage wasn't great, no
Speaker 4: problem with bad shots. He made good decisions shooting the
Speaker 4: ball from Premberg, he just didn't make most of them.
Speaker 3: You know. Obviously they kept the game close to the
Speaker 3: point where he you know, he had to make a
Speaker 3: miracle shot.
Speaker 2: But as a player on the court, you.
Speaker 3: Know, what are you thinking in a game like that
Speaker 3: that's gonna you know, it's really gonna come down to
Speaker 3: maybe a couple possessions. Is that just kind of like
Speaker 3: you got to you gotta get through this somehow? Is
Speaker 3: that what you're feeling?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And the thing is also to me, this is not
Speaker 4: a young team. These dudes have been around the block.
Speaker 4: They have been around the block, so there's there's no
Speaker 4: panic or anything like that. But the decision making, which
Speaker 4: you know, for the most part, was good and side
Speaker 4: with say, game obviously looked better because we won or whatever,
Speaker 4: but I'm looking at previous games where, like I think
Speaker 4: there was one game where we had like maybe a
Speaker 4: six to seven point lead and he jacked up the
Speaker 4: shot that, Yo, we don't have it like that. You know,
Speaker 4: we maybe have a seven to eight, but that shot
Speaker 4: can start a run, and sure enough things started to turn.
Speaker 4: So little things like that from experienced players, you gotta
Speaker 4: expect better from them as far as the decision making.
Speaker 4: You know, if you have an open look and you
Speaker 4: shoot and miss it, hey you get back and play
Speaker 4: defense and move on to the next one. But it's
Speaker 4: a decision making when you take these bad shots, and
Speaker 4: nobody on this team needs to be taking heat checks
Speaker 4: unless we're at twenty some point.
Speaker 2: Look, this is probably be my last question before we go,
Speaker 2: uh pete, uh Arizona will do well in March if
Speaker 2: give me two things.
Speaker 4: Two things. If we have consistent pimeter shooting and we
Speaker 4: rebound the basketball.
Speaker 2: So basic basketball basketball, one on one, yeah, yeah, yep,
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter from whom I guess right.
Speaker 4: Well, Caleb is a lightning rod because he's the guy
Speaker 4: that can break people's back, you know. And that's what
Speaker 4: I'm still waiting on. And you know, call me to
Speaker 4: turn off the miss. I still believe in this dude,
Speaker 4: and you know, I think I think he's gonna come
Speaker 4: through for us.
Speaker 2: And I guess the other guy might be because you
Speaker 2: don't get this much from or it's consistent from from
Speaker 2: Henry as you do from Milwauka. So maybe if Henry
Speaker 2: shows up like he did a couple of week to
Speaker 2: go okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I mentioned something I made a little post about,
Speaker 4: you know, big Hanks, there's there's no turning back now
Speaker 4: because to me, once you show you can do something,
Speaker 4: and he's showing flashes that he can, uh, there's no
Speaker 4: turning back. It's all about moving forward now. And and
Speaker 4: he had a little nasty street that I want to
Speaker 4: see him get you get back to having, you know.
Speaker 2: Right know you did.
Speaker 3: And the guy I'm waiting for and I'm really enjoying
Speaker 3: so far as Carter Bryant's I think you.
Speaker 4: Know, he's oh yeah, yeah, he's kind.
Speaker 3: Of waiting I think for his chance. He's you know,
Speaker 3: he's already had a.
Speaker 4: Couple of big games and he's and he's being real
Speaker 4: patient with it. You know, he had comes from an
Speaker 4: awesome family. His dad is awesome. I think they have
Speaker 4: the right outlook as far as guiding his kid and
Speaker 4: just listening the way this dude speaks to the medium.
Speaker 4: I'm just blowing away how policies dude is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so, So okay, I gotta go. Hey,
Speaker 2: by the way, I can't always be the cop on
Speaker 2: Facebook posts, so I need you. I need your help.
Speaker 4: Some of that stuff. I got to stay out. See
Speaker 4: I might get on there and get the customs. I
Speaker 4: don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: So that's why I do no one kids. Yeah, nothing
Speaker 2: to you. Yeah, yeah, okay, thanks Pete as always.
Speaker 4: All right, Hey you guys, thank you you too, Thank you.
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Speaker 9: I'm Steve Rivera.
Speaker 2: You Dave Silverton. Thanks for Pete Williams for showing up
Speaker 2: talking to hus. Always good to have him on. I'd
Speaker 2: have Craig, but he's coaching. He's a busy coaching right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Pete always has a good perspective on things. He's
Speaker 3: always paid attention to the program for all these years,
Speaker 3: and he's been a great ambassador from in southern California.
Speaker 3: Like he was talking about Carter Brian, I'm sure he
Speaker 3: probably watched Carter Barranton High school. They're kind of from
Speaker 3: the same general area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And since Tommy's arrived, he's become close with Tabby.
Speaker 2: They text a lot. I know that that's good from
Speaker 2: the Ludelson camp, and and he got him to come
Speaker 2: over and you know, it's just what it is. So
Speaker 2: that's good. And he's and he's I call him the cornerstone.
Speaker 2: He was the first guy to kind of come with
Speaker 2: Lute and him and Eddie and turned it into what
Speaker 2: it was, and then Steve Yep and then him right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that first year was I mean I
Speaker 3: think McMillan came the second year yeah, huh, but yes,
Speaker 3: I mean Steve, Pete, Eddie and then left. If you
Speaker 3: guys left over from the four and twenty.
Speaker 2: Fourteen, yeah, well did you remember the guard Michael Tate?
Speaker 3: Michael Tate, Yeah, and he talked about him when we
Speaker 3: were on last time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Eventually didn't like it here for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: maybe lut and left to Clemson.
Speaker 3: I think he saw the right on the wall maybe
Speaker 3: with Kerr.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he but but Pete says that he wishes
Speaker 2: he would have stuck it out. Yeah, he would have
Speaker 2: been because you know, everyone doesn't want to be competitive
Speaker 2: with these guys. And then you leave and he says, well,
Speaker 2: I could have I stayed and done really well, ye
Speaker 2: junior senior year whatever.
Speaker 3: And that was such a different obviously a different time
Speaker 3: and different different places for the program, and you know
Speaker 3: they were building and adding players and going to the
Speaker 3: j C. I mean, both Pete and Eddie came from
Speaker 3: junior colleges, which rarely have done.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: You know when Ben Davis Ben Davison, he might have
Speaker 3: been one of the last ones.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, I think Sean got it maybe a
Speaker 2: time or two. Maybe maybe I can't, I'd have to.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean Luke was trying to put it
Speaker 3: all together quickly.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: He got here in March and they had to play
Speaker 3: a game and what five or six months from there.
Speaker 2: So March of eighty three, and he found he got lucky.
Speaker 2: He got lucky with Kerr, got lucky lucky because he
Speaker 2: went to go see somebody else I want to say, Uh,
Speaker 2: I want to say Kelly Tripica was from the same school.
Speaker 2: There was some kind of so I've written so many
Speaker 2: times about this, but but there was this you know,
Speaker 2: e skin of little white kid, you know, playing and
Speaker 2: then they decided to play and you remember the story, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: him and Bobby went to go watch and there was
Speaker 2: since Bobby tells him, you really, he's not Erison good,
Speaker 2: is not good? This was about the other player, about Nobody,
Speaker 2: Steve Steve. Yeah, yeah, and you know it turns out
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 3: It is what it is, right, Yeah, I mean that again,
Speaker 3: that was it was really fun to just kind of
Speaker 3: watch this and I had never covered Division one basketball,
Speaker 3: and for me, this is like, this is this is
Speaker 3: what happens.
Speaker 2: How does this out do this work?
Speaker 3: And the next thing you know, they're in the tournament,
Speaker 3: like you know, two years in, right, So it happened quickly,
Speaker 3: and thanks to guys like Pete and Eddie especially and
Speaker 3: Steve in that first first wave of talent that came through.
Speaker 3: And then as they were winning, Sewan comes in from
Speaker 3: here in town and you know he he attracted players
Speaker 3: just because he was Sean Elliott and they built on
Speaker 3: that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The next five years, well, yeah, it's not that
Speaker 2: he got lucky. He worked his butt off to get well,
Speaker 2: he got Steve lucky and then Sean. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: everything just kind of fell into place.
Speaker 3: And in the fact that Sean was here and again
Speaker 3: I I do have memories of that and many people
Speaker 3: if you remember as well, if you're here in the
Speaker 3: early eighties, he was incredible. In high school. He was
Speaker 3: the guy se Yeah, I mean a choie. There was
Speaker 3: nobody in town that could stay with him. Even when
Speaker 3: he was a junior. He'd get a rebound and down
Speaker 3: the court slam dunk.
Speaker 2: Let me do a selfless progruss. Did you read my book? Yeah,
Speaker 2: my my trap here on lout stuff. So Sean and
Speaker 2: I didn't know this until and I guess other people did.
Speaker 2: I didn't know this that no one really recruited him
Speaker 2: outside of he went to the Camp USA or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was out of candas time and he was going
Speaker 2: to head to U Tip. U Tip was the only
Speaker 2: school that had give him really notice wo until Luke
Speaker 2: came in and he was he was ready to come
Speaker 2: go to U Tip. Yeah, said I didn't know that
Speaker 2: by for Don Haskins. For Don Haskins, Yeah, you're talking
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four ish, right when he was when he
Speaker 2: was being recruited.
Speaker 3: So it was the year that that Luke nearly.
Speaker 2: Went to Kentucky. I think was there a time earlier?
Speaker 3: No, that was the first time I was I know
Speaker 3: was when when the Arizona Daily Star wrote the articles
Speaker 3: of five the shoes and the equipment, and Luke got
Speaker 3: really upset in eighty five and was flirting with other places.
Speaker 3: And then from a media standpoint, you get you know,
Speaker 3: he weren't here yet. But the Sean and Steve Kirk
Speaker 3: came to our TV station at Kagun in those years
Speaker 3: and came on the set and we did a story
Speaker 3: with them, kind of talking about how we're going to
Speaker 3: try to make sure coach doesn't leave.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't, I didn't know what.
Speaker 3: It was really dramatic, like really, you know, can you can't?
Speaker 3: I mean, it would never happen in a million years today,
Speaker 3: but like forty years ago, we were able to convince
Speaker 3: because Sean, we knew Sean just because he was a
Speaker 3: local guy and Steve was the smart guy, smart guy.
Speaker 3: The two guys come on the air and basically we're
Speaker 3: pleading with you know.
Speaker 2: Time of year had to be. It was eighty five.
Speaker 3: After the season, probably the spring or summer after the
Speaker 3: season was over, and Lout was contemplating going elsewhere in
Speaker 3: the town. The city I think were there was some
Speaker 3: kind of basketball fundraising group.
Speaker 2: Boosters should say it was the yeah besket Yeah, I
Speaker 2: know exactly.
Speaker 3: Anyway, they kind of came together, I think as well,
Speaker 3: with with some kind of you know offer whatever.
Speaker 2: He came from here, Yeah he's just been here two years. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 3: Do remember that they literally came in and we interviewed.
Speaker 2: Them on what was and how much time do you
Speaker 2: guys give them?
Speaker 3: I don't know in those days, you know, we could
Speaker 3: have given them five ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was a big story, right, it was.
Speaker 2: It was like a randal. Yeah. I didn't know that
Speaker 2: because it was I mean, the two dudes got fired
Speaker 2: at the papers, right. I had come to be an
Speaker 2: intern that summer of eighty five, so I was well
Speaker 2: aware of the story and the guys involved, but I
Speaker 2: didn't know that the guys had gone to the TV station.
Speaker 3: I mean, that was it was pretty cool. I mean
Speaker 3: because it's was eighty five, the first year they made
Speaker 3: the tournament and they had just gotten in, so I
Speaker 3: mean there was you know, there was a lot of
Speaker 3: talk about the team, and obviously the program was building
Speaker 3: up and things were kind of overlapping, you know, the
Speaker 3: Shawn elliott Ero was beginning and Steve was still here
Speaker 3: and guys were coming in and Kenny lofton.
Speaker 2: So that story fell into you guys, were you the
Speaker 2: Boston Yeah, it was just a young Boston.
Speaker 3: I was a young boy. That was the summer I
Speaker 3: took over as the main guy. Okay, channel who was
Speaker 3: the guy before Ed Sorenson.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, you had.
Speaker 3: Left in June, I think, and then eighty five, little
Speaker 3: little old David eighty five next yep, Oh so eighty
Speaker 3: five I was That's when I was an intern. So
Speaker 3: it happened the guys came in that summer, not after this.
Speaker 3: He must have been in town. It might have been.
Speaker 3: Maybe I wasn't even the main guy that I don't
Speaker 3: even remember how.
Speaker 2: Because he had a chance, you know, in eighty nine
Speaker 2: to leave again, right, uh and then maybe another time?
Speaker 2: What is Yeah?
Speaker 3: By then things had really been established, sure, I mean
Speaker 3: Sean Elliott was finishing up in eighty nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's when Kentucky blew it bys messing around,
Speaker 2: not messing around, but not including Bobby in the interviews
Speaker 2: when when they were interviewing lou So. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: A fun time. I mean, Pete he brings back memories.
Speaker 3: I'm sure any Wildcat fan listening who was around in
Speaker 3: those years, yeah, remembers like because I missed the Ben
Speaker 3: Lindsay year.
Speaker 2: I was coming to town that year, I'm I don'tant.
Speaker 3: To see it. But all the stories I would hear
Speaker 3: about how quiet it was and people would go there
Speaker 3: instead of going to the library because it was quieter
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's why they had to do that. Get your
Speaker 2: tickets now, because you're not gonna want to miss it.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I had no idea. I didn't know much
Speaker 3: about the players, and really the junior college guys were
Speaker 3: coming in. I guess maybe during that summer we were
Speaker 3: learning about who's you know, who's Pete Williams, who's getting
Speaker 3: in the smith?
Speaker 2: Right? But things started to build. Yeah, yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: those are the good old days at the beginning. It's always,
Speaker 2: like they say to me, the best time to cover
Speaker 2: a team has went on the way up and on
Speaker 2: the way down, because you have a lot to write about, true,
Speaker 2: you know, and good parts in the middle too. Of course.
Speaker 2: Ninety seven. You know, this place has not really had
Speaker 2: any downtime. Downtime I mean lon times and when they
Speaker 2: lose the tournament. I mean they've always you know, basically
Speaker 2: almost every year. It's it's the toughest part for me
Speaker 2: because I was so involved with it. It was when Loot's
Speaker 2: final year, when he you know, finally decided to say
Speaker 2: I'm retiring in two thousand and eight, I think it was,
Speaker 2: And then Kevin came in and that was a difficult
Speaker 2: year obviously, and then Russ and Mike Dunnap took over
Speaker 2: and then parts of the the Sean stuff at the
Speaker 2: end when you know the investigation and things like that.
Speaker 2: So it's been I've been very spoiled. Yeah, with not
Speaker 2: a lot of issues.
Speaker 3: We've had a lot of great successful teams, great successful coaches,
Speaker 3: but you know, the exits have not been very clear
Speaker 3: in any case.
Speaker 2: In addition to that, you're right, the first round lost
Speaker 2: is were not fun No. Yeah, My first one was
Speaker 2: the East Sennessee State and covered the team a year
Speaker 2: later Santa Clara. Two years later it was Miami of Ohio.
Speaker 2: It's funny because this is.
Speaker 3: Kind of an inside baseball story, but I mean I
Speaker 3: would often let my weekend person go to the first round,
Speaker 3: thinking I'm going to get to.
Speaker 2: The sweet sixteen.
Speaker 3: I'll do that. So I did not go to East
Speaker 3: Tennessee State. I did not go to Sarta Clina, and
Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I'm going to the next
Speaker 3: one right when I was five, and then they and
Speaker 3: then they still lost.
Speaker 2: Nonety four was the next after Santa Clara.
Speaker 3: Okay, did I do that year?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: I was obviously the final four. Anyway, I think I
Speaker 3: might have gone three straight years without seeing seeing them
Speaker 3: in person. But I did go to the Miami, Ohio game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was guess who the assistant coach was,
Speaker 2: herb Sendek. No, he was the head coach, Sean Miller. Yeah,
Speaker 2: San was the coach.
Speaker 3: A bizarre tournament events.
Speaker 2: It was yea, it was, so it is what it is.
Speaker 2: But and yeah, you've been there for the first rounds
Speaker 2: a couple of them again, one of those situations where
Speaker 2: when Arizona doesn't feel threatened, they don't show up right
Speaker 2: when they feel when they play the North Carolinas, they
Speaker 2: played the UC you know, they always show up because
Speaker 2: you're not going to tell them they're not as good
Speaker 2: as that group, you know.
Speaker 3: But the eighty eight team, and I did go the
Speaker 3: first round there because it was a pollie because I'd
Speaker 3: never been there. They'd beat Cornell by like, oh they
Speaker 3: fifty or something, and then they played Seaton Hall next.
Speaker 2: Beat them just as bad.
Speaker 3: They were rolling through that tournament like nobody else.
Speaker 2: That was a different group because uh, and you always
Speaker 2: love your firstborn because they're so popular, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: they get to the final four, uh that that was
Speaker 2: a group of guys who just were having fun trying
Speaker 2: to beat crap out it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and characters, mean, there's so many. I mean you've
Speaker 3: written about him, but you know, the toll Birds in
Speaker 3: the world, and you know Sean and Steve, I mean,
Speaker 3: the dynamics on that team. Lout was you know, still
Speaker 3: you know, kind of trying to prove himself. He'd been
Speaker 3: with some final fours before a Final four I guess
Speaker 3: before that, but you know Rosboro with him and no, no,
Speaker 3: he wasn't there yet. It's right, Scott Thompson was maybe still.
Speaker 2: There Scott and mcandrew's key.
Speaker 3: Birds song, right, But again, it was just you know,
Speaker 3: fun to be there, like you said at the beginning
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, cool. We got to got a couple of
Speaker 2: minutes with no calls because we're going to move on
Speaker 2: to a commercial in the second hour. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do any breaking news. You might look at some
Speaker 2: things and what's going on, because there's a lot of
Speaker 2: things going on, and then have Javio Morales at about
Speaker 2: four seventeen talking about some of the things he's been
Speaker 2: up to. Today's story was some of the all time
Speaker 2: best of long distance shots from Ubay. I know that
Speaker 2: Anthony had some stuff with softball, you know the softball
Speaker 2: bombs that hit, those one offs in baseball, you know
Speaker 2: those those walkoffs. They had a bunch last year. They
Speaker 2: had eight last year, I think baseball baseball, so you know,
Speaker 2: just not exclusive to basketball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, especially in that baseball is great for
Speaker 3: the end softball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, football, football had you know a few of the
Speaker 2: hail Mary's, well and the Chuck cecils, you know, the
Speaker 2: Chuck cecils, the Hail Mary's and the and the other
Speaker 2: things that went on.
Speaker 3: Was there for that yeah? Eight six yep, Yah, I'm
Speaker 3: looking at his story right now. You get people should
Speaker 3: get a chance look at all sports Twson dot com
Speaker 3: and look at it and maybe give us a call
Speaker 3: too while hobbyer is on, and see what your your
Speaker 3: memories are, because there were some obviously some great.
Speaker 2: Ones, right right, and everybody has their own favorites, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: Let's go take a break and then come back and
Speaker 2: then do it all over again. Maybe take some calls
Speaker 2: in the first fifteen minutes just to get maybe a
Speaker 2: couple of in and your thoughts