Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Princess.
Speaker 2: Here one is another episode of by Pumpkin Wrap Up Edition.
Speaker 2: So let's get right to it.
Speaker 1: I m M.
Speaker 2: The first thing I want to talk about, real, real quick,
Speaker 2: is y'all arguing with those ignits over fucking air conditioning.
Speaker 2: And if you don't know what I'm talking about there,
Speaker 2: you know, this past week there's been like a huge
Speaker 2: heat wave. It's hot as fuck, guys, It's real fucking hot.
Speaker 2: It feels like we're dancing on the devil's tint. But
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of European countries don't really do
Speaker 2: air conditioning. And it's because Europe is higher up than
Speaker 2: we are on the fucking lobe. Okay, it's it's further
Speaker 2: up there, all right. And in general, in general, obviously
Speaker 2: there are some exceptions. And so when we think about
Speaker 2: their climate, they have a cooler climate than we do
Speaker 2: because we're closer to the fucking equator, all right, especially depending.
Speaker 1: Where you're in the US. And so this small fact,
Speaker 1: this small fact.
Speaker 2: Is arguing about incessantly online because they don't really a
Speaker 2: lot of their structures don't really have a central air conditioning.
Speaker 2: And you know, they also say that they're that they're
Speaker 2: that their buildings are too old to get that's a lie.
Speaker 1: That's a lie.
Speaker 2: It might be too expensive for you to retrofit, but
Speaker 2: that it is too old to get it.
Speaker 1: That's not true. That's not true. You could get it.
Speaker 1: But also is that worth it? But I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck. I told you to stop arguing on the
Speaker 1: fucking internet with them.
Speaker 2: They have no idea about America. American culture not shit,
Speaker 2: and you have no idea about them. Okay, maybe we
Speaker 2: all know a little bit about each other, but living
Speaker 2: in France, unless you did that, I don't think that
Speaker 2: you know what that's like. And so it's you know,
Speaker 2: they're saying that the heat related deaths in Europe rival
Speaker 2: the gun related deaths in America.
Speaker 1: That's shocking to me. I don't think anything rivals the
Speaker 1: gun related deaths in America.
Speaker 2: But fine, But and I did see this video from
Speaker 2: a saying air conditioning culture. I couldn't even finish it
Speaker 2: because I was like, what is air conditioning culture? She
Speaker 2: didn't mention something about the halves and the have nods
Speaker 2: and that and that it would further like for like
Speaker 2: the make a line between the halves and the haves,
Speaker 2: not maybe you don't think there's a fucking line. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but here's what I need to say. Stop
Speaker 2: fucking arguing and I and I feel like I feel
Speaker 2: like the reason we most people are mostly arguing with
Speaker 2: British people. I feel like the reason that happens is
Speaker 2: because we're speaking the same language, and so we think
Speaker 2: that we should have a lot in common.
Speaker 1: We don't have a lot in common. Maybe a shmidge
Speaker 1: of things in common, but we have more not in common.
Speaker 1: And so when somebody from over there is telling you
Speaker 1: they don't have their HoTT as fuck and they might
Speaker 1: die today because of the heat, okay, believe them. And
Speaker 1: also when they say stuff like you don't need air conditioning,
Speaker 1: block them, because yes the fuck you do. Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm just so stop arguing with them. Stop arguing with them.
Speaker 2: Every time you see a post that goes why in
Speaker 2: America that block them?
Speaker 1: Block them.
Speaker 2: They don't want you to answer them. They just want
Speaker 2: to sit over there and play. And then the other
Speaker 2: thing is every time you disagree with one of them,
Speaker 2: they're like, what about your school shootings? Gleefully like they're
Speaker 2: like like we're all sitting around being like this is
Speaker 2: the best way to run things.
Speaker 1: We know it's not.
Speaker 2: We know it's not, but we're not French enough to
Speaker 2: kill everybody in the government. And I personally think we
Speaker 2: should be Okay, those French people, they'll take to the
Speaker 2: fucking streets, all right, and we should take a little
Speaker 2: bit of that. That's a compliment, Okay. I don't care
Speaker 2: what you got to say about the French. Those motherfuckers
Speaker 2: were riot and that's kind of energy need we need to.
Speaker 1: Be looking for.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, though, it is like block them,
Speaker 2: Like seriously, that's all anybody has to say?
Speaker 1: Well, what about all your gun depths? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: having these gun depths because you're fucking king trying to
Speaker 1: take away our guns and nobody got over it. And
Speaker 1: that is fucking sad and shit, don't that what you
Speaker 1: wasn't involved in? Sup? Let me stop.
Speaker 2: I find these arguments pointless. I find them to be
Speaker 2: mostly for Internet engagement. And I really think that the
Speaker 2: people that are like having these conversations in serious ways
Speaker 2: are spinning their circle, their their their circle. You know,
Speaker 2: like when like when you're on a Mac and you're
Speaker 2: like trying to click something and won't let you click
Speaker 2: and it's just that spinny rainbow circle.
Speaker 1: And you're just like, what the fuck and it just
Speaker 1: keeps going and going and going and going going, and you.
Speaker 2: Have to just wait or you have to shut down
Speaker 2: your fucking mac book. That is what is going on.
Speaker 2: Shut down the fucking map book. Doesn't nobody hears anybody, Okay,
Speaker 2: stop arguing with them, especially over fucking air conditioned.
Speaker 1: They don't want it.
Speaker 2: They don't have to fucking have it real quick, Jack
Speaker 2: Antonov and Margaret Quick are getting divorced. I so you guys,
Speaker 2: if you didn't know, I did the Fame Sick episode right,
Speaker 2: I went over Lena dumbs Lunt and I did this
Speaker 2: the whole episode too, Lena Dunham's book, and I found
Speaker 2: that to be super interesting. I told you the Jack
Speaker 2: Antonov shit was the least interesting part of the book,
Speaker 2: mostly because I don't care about him, and I think like,
Speaker 2: if I cared about him, I would have been like,
Speaker 2: ooh details. But I don't care about him and I
Speaker 2: never care about the relationship. So the stuff that I'm
Speaker 2: hearing for the first time is like, I don't have
Speaker 2: anything to compare it against that I had no concept
Speaker 2: of it before. I do think that, Like I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that relationship was over years before then, before you left
Speaker 2: that relationship. Because mostly I don't think he always liked you.
Speaker 2: And and I'm not saying Lena Dunham is likable. I've
Speaker 2: said that, like, I don't think she's super likable. She's
Speaker 2: funny and she is talented, but I don't know how
Speaker 2: likable she is. So I'm not blaming him, but I
Speaker 2: don't think he liked her. Like when she was recovering
Speaker 2: from her from her multiple health crisis, she would be
Speaker 2: home with her parents the apartment that she shared with Jack.
Speaker 1: That's weird. The lordship was weird. Why is Lord calling
Speaker 1: Lena auntie Lena? Why would she be doing that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I so, like, you know, I don't have anything to
Speaker 1: compare it to. I didn't have like a story of
Speaker 1: Lena and Jai to compare it to. Out let me
Speaker 1: use back up, and I'll keep saying this every time
Speaker 1: Jack Antonov dated Scarlet Johansson, right, and everyone's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he did Scarlet Johansson. That's crazy. He must
Speaker 1: have so much game, babe.
Speaker 2: Look at a picture of scar of Scarlet Johansson and
Speaker 2: Jack Antonov together. Those people are the are the most
Speaker 2: we should be together people in the world. They look
Speaker 2: exactly alike. They actually look like they're related in it,
Speaker 2: but they definitely look like they they they riding on
Speaker 2: the same bus.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't know what to tell you. Of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course he got her.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he, Why wouldn't he Anyway, so him and
Speaker 2: Margaret Qualley broke up, right and they've been married three years,
Speaker 2: and I guess it's I don't know.
Speaker 1: We actually don't know what happened. Yet. Jack showed up
Speaker 1: to Taylor Swift's convention.
Speaker 2: Conference with with without her, and I think he brought
Speaker 2: his sister, and you know, then they announced the next day.
Speaker 2: People were like, oh, I think they announced so they
Speaker 2: wouldn't steal Taylor's thunder. I was like, no, they announced
Speaker 2: because in PR you want to announce right after something
Speaker 2: big happen, so hopefully people won't be talking about you
Speaker 2: as much. And I don't think that people are talking
Speaker 2: about them as much as they would have if they
Speaker 2: announced Wednesday.
Speaker 1: You know, but they Yeah, so they're broken up.
Speaker 2: And I saw something that said that at Fame Sick
Speaker 2: Lena's book is basically a curse, because I don't know
Speaker 2: why why they are talking about anything but Jack, because
Speaker 2: what else did it curse? People think that Margaret read
Speaker 2: Famesick and then was like, that's a final straw.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true at all.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true at all. You think this
Speaker 2: the first time she heard she You think this is
Speaker 2: the first time she heard about the power point, the
Speaker 2: Lord power point and how Jack and Lord were Obviously
Speaker 2: if they were not physically, if they were not having
Speaker 2: a physical sexual relationship, they were definitely having an emotional relationship,
Speaker 2: an emotional affair. Do you think it's the first time
Speaker 2: Margaret heard about that.
Speaker 1: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: And I don't think any of the other stuff in
Speaker 2: the book Margaret would find surprising because she's lived with
Speaker 2: him for three years and I bet she could see
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: But I don't think what the fuck she might not.
Speaker 1: I've read the book.
Speaker 2: I think that it's likely that people who have read
Speaker 2: the book have had have come to her and tell
Speaker 2: ever told her about it. But I don't think. I
Speaker 2: don't it's possible she didn't. I honestly don't think it's
Speaker 2: about that at all. I think they got married and
Speaker 2: people really like romanticized their relationship. I mean, of course
Speaker 2: you've got a romanticize the relationship. What else do you
Speaker 2: do with relationships? Demonize them like their friends and colleagues,
Speaker 2: and really romanticized in the public, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: people having what's it called.
Speaker 1: It's the thing where you too involve somebody you don't
Speaker 1: even fuck. I know, parasocial people having parasocial relationships with.
Speaker 2: Them, like really romanticized their love. And Margaret Qualley is beautiful.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed her and made it was a Netflix I
Speaker 2: guess it's not a movie. It was an ex Fleix show,
Speaker 2: but it's only like once, its supposed to be one season.
Speaker 2: I think the memoir it's based on I call required reading,
Speaker 2: especially if you want to understand poverty, how people get
Speaker 2: into it, how people, how it sucks you down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you should. I think you should read it.
Speaker 2: It's super compelling and she's been in some other ship.
Speaker 2: But I don't fucking know, like is she really pretty? Yeah,
Speaker 2: That's all I fucking know about her. I just really
Speaker 2: don't think it's that book. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 2: like okay, because if your relationship is really good or
Speaker 2: even just fine. Right, It's not amazing, but it's fine
Speaker 2: if your relationship is fine, and you read a book
Speaker 2: in which his ex girlfriend describes him as kind of standoffish.
Speaker 1: The fights, he.
Speaker 2: Get a little low, you know, the type of person
Speaker 2: and Lord, forgive me, I can be that person too,
Speaker 2: The type of person if you get into a fight
Speaker 2: with them, they just they just unload the clip on
Speaker 2: you and they start mentioning some shit that that you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you've been thinking about this. That's what he seems to be.
Speaker 2: And he seems he seems to be someone who will
Speaker 2: easily tell you your intellectually inferior to them.
Speaker 1: That's what that's the type of person he seems to be.
Speaker 2: And your tasting books sucks, Your tasting movies suck, Your
Speaker 2: tasted art sucks, like you're writing s like. That's the
Speaker 2: type of person he seems to be based on how
Speaker 2: Lena described him. But again, I told you guys.
Speaker 1: Lena Dunham. Dunham is incredibly.
Speaker 2: Self aware, and that's where her awareness ends. She does
Speaker 2: not understand the people around her. She only understands herself
Speaker 2: very well in a way that a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't extend past her own nose. Okay, so
Speaker 2: maybe maybe she's unfairly portraying him, who knows. But it's
Speaker 2: not the book, guys, it can't be the book because
Speaker 2: if that's not, if she's having a great relationship with
Speaker 2: Jack and you and you find out information your ex
Speaker 2: is his ex has written in a book, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't jive with the way you know him.
Speaker 1: You're gonna dismiss that. You wouldn't be like, hmmm, is
Speaker 1: that how he really is? You've been married to him
Speaker 1: for three years. You wouldn't do that. You would dismiss
Speaker 1: and say that's not the Jack I know. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I actually like when people get divorced. I just I
Speaker 1: always tay congratulations, because listen, go get what you want.
Speaker 1: Everybody should be doing that. When people quit at my job,
Speaker 1: I'm like, good, not because I want them gone, but
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I hope you're getting something you want, Like, like,
Speaker 1: if where you are isn't serving you, godspeed to where
Speaker 1: it will.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm happy to get that's kindly weird. I'm
Speaker 2: happy they're getting divorced.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this particular video that I'm
Speaker 2: getting so many stitches, and I obviously wouldn't get the video.
Speaker 1: There's a woman who starts.
Speaker 2: She sounds like she has like a try state at
Speaker 2: accent Jersey Philly.
Speaker 1: That's what she sounds like.
Speaker 2: But she's like, I'm nineteen, married, I have a bunch
Speaker 2: of kids, and this is the right where I want
Speaker 2: to be. And that's usually where they clip off the
Speaker 2: and they start doing She just talks.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's the usual stuff.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's an honor to have children, having kids so young.
Speaker 2: I got married right at eighteen, then I got pregnant
Speaker 2: right at eighteen, and this is the best thing that
Speaker 2: ever happened to me.
Speaker 1: And you know, I just want to stay.
Speaker 2: At home and bake cookies and look at my children,
Speaker 2: and that's the most important thing to me.
Speaker 1: Why would I want to work? That sounds crazy. Why
Speaker 1: would you know? I work for my husband, which is
Speaker 1: being me.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you are labor every single day all day
Speaker 2: and you're doing and the person that's paying you are
Speaker 2: basically giving you the resources is the person that you
Speaker 2: also have sex with.
Speaker 1: So that's weird.
Speaker 2: Anyway, There's just tons of people stitching that because you know,
Speaker 2: when we get to the tradwive conversations. They lead to
Speaker 2: a certain place, and that is where the forty five
Speaker 2: year old tradwives and a lot of them. You got
Speaker 2: a few out here that are still feeling great and
Speaker 2: still having a great life, but a lot of them
Speaker 2: don't exist. But and also, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I there's a video that people stitch all the time
Speaker 2: that's also it's a woman's site. People ask about if
Speaker 2: me and my husan are gonna divorce. We don't plan
Speaker 2: to get divorced. People ask if my husband gonna die.
Speaker 1: He's not.
Speaker 2: And someone said they look at the update of her,
Speaker 2: Yeah they're still married. But why where else would she be?
Speaker 2: Where else she'd be right over there.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I listen.
Speaker 2: I I like hearing from the numerous married traditional wife
Speaker 2: women that are thirty five, forty five, and they're talking
Speaker 2: about how their lives like are fucked.
Speaker 1: Like they they're living in a one.
Speaker 2: Bedroom apartment with three fucking kids and it's trying to
Speaker 2: make it work. And that sort of stuff has really
Speaker 2: radicalized me. Obviously I was always a little radical about this,
Speaker 2: but like I'm just like, don't even put men's names
Speaker 2: on the birth certificates, like they gotta fight to get
Speaker 2: that last name. But that's just me, right, So I'm
Speaker 2: a bit radical radicalized about that. But here's the thing
Speaker 2: about this. I know that there's much to be said
Speaker 2: about these sorts of things, but I also do not
Speaker 2: I know, you're not talking to her, because there's no
Speaker 2: talking to her her. She's probably pretty religious, she's probably
Speaker 2: been raised this way. There's probably a lot of like
Speaker 2: if she comes out on the other side, she'll be
Speaker 2: deconstructioning her religion, her family, her core beliefs. Like that's
Speaker 2: fucking hard, guys, that's really fucking hard. A lot of
Speaker 2: people just choose to keep where they are because leaving
Speaker 2: is difficult and painful. And so like, I know, you
Speaker 2: guys aren't talking to her, obviously, you're talking to the
Speaker 2: other people that see this, and that.
Speaker 1: Maybe perhaps will become radicalized. But I just I don't
Speaker 1: even know if it's helpful anymore. Maybe I'm tired of it,
Speaker 1: but I don't even know if it's helpful anymore. I
Speaker 1: just really think that the type of person that thinks
Speaker 1: that thinks that was raised to believe that, and like
Speaker 1: a few TikTok video aren't gonna change that, you know,
Speaker 1: under those comments Every now and then you get someone
Speaker 1: be like, I've been married thirty years. It takes a
Speaker 1: lot of hard work, and I'm fine, and I enjoyed
Speaker 1: being a stay at home mom. But yeah, great your
Speaker 1: exception to all those rules, you really are. This isn't
Speaker 1: about stay at home moms.
Speaker 2: Obviously, lots of people are staying at home because that's
Speaker 2: that's all that can happen right now. Financially and other reasons,
Speaker 2: that's all that can happen. I know a couple like that,
Speaker 2: a couple of them like that, and these bitches are poor, okay,
Speaker 2: real fucking poor, and it's because it's what they gotta do.
Speaker 2: I know somebody who has two kids and two adults
Speaker 2: in the house and they thinking about having the third
Speaker 2: they love for forty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: And I know some of you.
Speaker 2: Are like forty thousand dollars, that's amazing. Forty thousand dollars
Speaker 2: for four people is ten thousand dollars a year. And
Speaker 2: they struggle, you know, they struggle, and.
Speaker 1: She has to stay at home because there's no other
Speaker 1: way to do this. But I just wonder what.
Speaker 2: The I really just wonder what we're doing next. A
Speaker 2: lot of the rise of this type of stuff has
Speaker 2: to do with the direction our country's going is on
Speaker 2: the rise of fascism. People trying to get rid of
Speaker 2: no fault divorce, which means that you can't divorce unless
Speaker 2: you can find unless you can prove the other person
Speaker 2: did something, which is a crazy thing, a crazy fucking thing.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Allowed to divorce you. Now, I don't have to stay
Speaker 2: in the same home with you. But if I'm not
Speaker 2: allowed to divorce you, that means our finances stay the same.
Speaker 1: That means that are what you own, I also own.
Speaker 2: So if you were to find get another place, I
Speaker 2: could possibly be entitled to it.
Speaker 1: That means that you cannot. That means when.
Speaker 2: You are if there are no fault divorces, like you
Speaker 2: cannot get out of this marriage unless something explicit happens, right.
Speaker 1: That means that.
Speaker 2: That trickles down to when I want to lease an
Speaker 2: apartment because of the way the laws in this state
Speaker 2: are not Virginia. But if the state is doing no
Speaker 2: eliminating no fault divorce, I'm sorry I've been saying no
Speaker 2: fault divorce.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you guys understand.
Speaker 2: Saying no fault because they've limited no fault divorce. It
Speaker 2: makes sense that a company wouldn't rent out to you,
Speaker 2: at least in company wouldn't rent to you. And if
Speaker 2: you are married, because and they need to have your
Speaker 2: spouse also, like you couldn't buy a car unless your
Speaker 2: spouse is also there. Might go both ways. But still
Speaker 2: this only harms women. Every now and then in my
Speaker 2: harm a man, but it harms women. But so when
Speaker 2: we talk about the direction our country is going on
Speaker 2: going in, and then also there are women on social
Speaker 2: media making content about how this is the best, their
Speaker 2: lives are the best they've ever been, and this is
Speaker 2: and making a pie today is the only thing I
Speaker 2: want to be doing.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit further than that. This is not.
Speaker 2: This is not choice feminism anymore, guys. This is part
Speaker 2: of the pr plan for that. It's not about that woman.
Speaker 2: It's about the rise of that type of content. It's
Speaker 2: not about the individual. It's about the system. And the
Speaker 2: other thing that someone said that really got me to think,
Speaker 2: and I'm never gonna stop. This is gonna be seared
Speaker 2: in my brain forever. If having kids young and being
Speaker 2: a parent at eighteen years old is wonderful, then how
Speaker 2: come there are no men talking about it? If staying
Speaker 2: at home to care for your family is the best
Speaker 2: thing they ever happened to you, how come there are
Speaker 2: no men talking about it. We all know that if
Speaker 2: something's wonderful, men want it too. So and the reason
Speaker 2: is the reason is is because these women are older.
Speaker 2: The men that these women are marrying or older, they
Speaker 2: are not encouraged to get married at eighteen most of
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: It's rare.
Speaker 2: When it is, they're encouraged to make money and then
Speaker 2: get married and to date and to enjoy their lives
Speaker 2: and then get married maybe still young at like twenty
Speaker 2: five or you know, twenty eight, but still nobody encourages
Speaker 2: me to do that.
Speaker 1: Why is that some of the think about but I do.
Speaker 1: I might need to reset my algorithm. Tired of saying
Speaker 1: these things.
Speaker 2: I'm not the I Maybe I'm the person that agrees
Speaker 2: with them, but that doesn't mean I have to look
Speaker 2: at it in my feed all day long. I think
Speaker 2: some of the people are just spinning wheels.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk about that voy smell. So
Speaker 1: this woman gets on she is.
Speaker 2: And the TikTok video is really just her playing this
Speaker 2: voice note that she got. It wasn't a voicemail's voice
Speaker 2: note that she got from a guy that basically said, Hey,
Speaker 2: I've been enjoying hanging out with you and I'd love
Speaker 2: to come you know, you invite me over your house.
Speaker 1: I'd love to come over your house.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, if you're not going to
Speaker 2: have sex, then not really interesting come over your house
Speaker 2: or doing this further. It's it's a lot more. But uh,
Speaker 2: you know, people are really reacting to that. Some people
Speaker 2: were some people were like, he's.
Speaker 1: Giving his boundaries, he's.
Speaker 2: I I think, or some people find it gross that
Speaker 2: he's so like, give me some sex or leave me alone.
Speaker 2: But for me, it was the tone in when she
Speaker 2: said it.
Speaker 1: It was real, like.
Speaker 2: You know what I did the Maternal Instincts episode with
Speaker 2: the doctor that was just so gleefuble. Then like a
Speaker 2: baby came out of there like that, Like the tone
Speaker 2: did not match what was happening, because if a baby
Speaker 2: did not come out of her, that means some terrible
Speaker 2: shit has happened. So why you sound like sing songy
Speaker 2: and stuff. But he's saying this this voice note sounded
Speaker 2: all sing songy to me.
Speaker 1: It's just like, are you are you just trying like
Speaker 1: to make it sound casual because you know it's a
Speaker 1: pretty direct request. It wasn't a boundary, it was a request.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't a threat, is like, the connotation of a
Speaker 2: threat is not what I'm looking for. But it was
Speaker 2: a basically listen. If you're not doing that, I'm not
Speaker 2: coming over there. And there's this one woman that made
Speaker 2: a video saying this is consent.
Speaker 1: No it's not.
Speaker 2: That's not what consent is. Consent is about honoring your partners,
Speaker 2: your partner's wishes and making sure that they have you
Speaker 2: have buy in of them before for you move forward.
Speaker 1: That's consent.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have consent about anything, right, and then if
Speaker 2: you find out that they don't want to do immediately
Speaker 2: then backing away and backing off of this. There was
Speaker 2: coercion that was like, I'd love to see you again,
Speaker 2: but only if you're gonna be willing to do this.
Speaker 2: If you're not willing to, then lose my number.
Speaker 1: What it was was.
Speaker 2: Honest, which I'll take over a lot of fucking things.
Speaker 2: It was honest, but honesty is not always It's not
Speaker 2: that you shouldn't be honest about things, but the way
Speaker 2: you deliver honesty really fucking matters, really matters. And I
Speaker 2: don't think and you guys are. I've been very clear
Speaker 2: about the fact that I think people should have sex
Speaker 2: a lot more often than they're having sex.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Second, I think, if you're not fucking right away, second
Speaker 2: date at the very latest, because why am I gonna
Speaker 2: learn all about your childhood? And then I realize we
Speaker 2: have we don't connect physically, like, no, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: But and I understand there's lots of you that are like.
Speaker 2: Princess no no, no, the rules blah blah blah. Fine,
Speaker 2: you do what you want to do. But I really
Speaker 2: think people should be having six more frequently than they should,
Speaker 2: like closer to it, And it just depends on how
Speaker 2: you how you see things, like maybe for you really early,
Speaker 2: it's five dates, fine, but I think you should have
Speaker 2: it as early as you feel comfortable. Let's get this
Speaker 2: shit out the way and figure out if this is
Speaker 2: even if we're even really compatible.
Speaker 1: So it's not that.
Speaker 2: It's what gives me the ache about this is that
Speaker 2: the way is the tone.
Speaker 1: As if.
Speaker 2: He's not making a line in the sand. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 2: I don't think a voice being like listen, if you
Speaker 2: don't have such, I don't think that will work either. Okay,
Speaker 2: but why don't you send it.
Speaker 1: In a voice note?
Speaker 2: It's a type of This is the type of thing
Speaker 2: you say to someone in person, like hey, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: I'm really having a good time with you, but I
Speaker 2: am looking for a physical relationship, so I understand.
Speaker 1: If you're not.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want you to do anything that
Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to do, but I'm really looking for
Speaker 2: something that's gonna move forward. So you know, pausing your court,
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed spending time with you. That sounds different
Speaker 2: to me than what he was doing. Like I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna come over your home unless I know you invited
Speaker 2: me to your home. But I'm not coming unless there's
Speaker 2: some pussy when I get there.
Speaker 1: That's weird. That's weird, and a creator I fortten is.
Speaker 2: I think his name is Shahem, who is who I've
Speaker 2: agreed with and not agree with over the time. I
Speaker 2: just don't find it necessary to tell somebody I don't
Speaker 2: agree with him. Shahim said, I want you to imagine
Speaker 2: that I invite you over my home to spend some
Speaker 2: time together, and you're like, cool, I want to come
Speaker 2: over there too.
Speaker 1: But if we but if we come over there, we
Speaker 1: better have pizza.
Speaker 2: And if there's no pizza, it's not worth me coming
Speaker 2: over your house. That sounds differently than I'd like to
Speaker 2: have pizza to night, right, That sounds differently to me.
Speaker 2: Send you a voice note saying if there's no pizza,
Speaker 2: there's no point in me even coming over there.
Speaker 1: That's that's different.
Speaker 2: And the thing about men is, I don't think you know,
Speaker 2: all dating, almost all dating advice is about is target
Speaker 2: towards women.
Speaker 1: Almost all relationship advices target towards women.
Speaker 2: The ones that are targeted towards men that are like
Speaker 2: real red pill fucking content, real like wild shit, like for.
Speaker 1: Men who.
Speaker 2: Who have no idea what women want at all.
Speaker 1: Right, But I think that.
Speaker 2: There's probably there's probably people out here giving advice to
Speaker 2: men to be like just say it, just say it
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: And I just.
Speaker 2: Where's the yearning, where's the romancing, where's the flirting? Where
Speaker 2: is these things? Where are these things? Why are we
Speaker 2: sending voice notes demanding sex? Or I don't think he
Speaker 2: was demanding I'll take that back, letting people know that
Speaker 2: you have that you are going.
Speaker 1: To drop them if you don't have sex the next
Speaker 1: time you see them. Where the fuck.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody yearning no more? I like, I think it's
Speaker 2: the it's the death of r D. Y'all need to
Speaker 2: be in the rain where.
Speaker 1: Your shirt off, saying how much you how you're gonna
Speaker 1: y'all gotta figure this out because these voice notes ain't
Speaker 1: they ain't hit n Hey, this is not for me,
Speaker 1: all right, Last thing I want to talk about. So
Speaker 1: I saw a Threads post.
Speaker 2: Okay, and a woman was basically explaining that she went
Speaker 2: to go see her guy no today and they basically
Speaker 2: told her that they're switching to they're not taking insurance anymore.
Speaker 2: If you guys don't know, taking insurance as a doctor sucks.
Speaker 1: Sucks.
Speaker 2: You have to hire a full time person to manage that.
Speaker 2: You have to be I want to say the word certified,
Speaker 2: but you have to be accepted by the insurance. The
Speaker 2: insurance company has rules for you to for them to
Speaker 2: pay out to you, so you have to be like
Speaker 2: it might be enrolled. I'm missing the exact terminology you
Speaker 2: need to have passed whatever their requirements are for them
Speaker 2: to allow you to take their insurance, and then you
Speaker 2: have to deal with submitting them in in the correct template.
Speaker 2: And keep in mind, if you take multiple insurances, they're
Speaker 2: probably all different. Medicaid's probably the biggest pain in the
Speaker 2: fucking ass. And then were they and they throw it back,
Speaker 2: They kick it back to you all the time, and
Speaker 2: they're like, you've run to dot the eye and then
Speaker 2: you gonna.
Speaker 1: You have to be in this system and the like
Speaker 1: all that shit.
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the day, if you
Speaker 2: charge two hundred and fifty dollars, the insurance company does
Speaker 2: not give a fuck. The insurance company says, we pay
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars for this. That's all we pay.
Speaker 1: So you we can get the insured to give you
Speaker 1: fifty dollars, and we're gonna pay one hundred dollars to you,
Speaker 1: and you gotta eat that other one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: If you want to take our insurance, you gotta eat
Speaker 2: the the one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: And you can make that up with volume.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like, have you ever been to a
Speaker 2: health facility that made it up with volume?
Speaker 1: That's what you're sitting in the in the exam room.
Speaker 2: Uh, and the doctor is in there for five fucking minutes,
Speaker 2: and don't ask any questions because if you do, this
Speaker 2: changes the nature of this into instead of a well check,
Speaker 2: into a into a what's it called when you have
Speaker 2: to go when you just go in a sick visit
Speaker 2: or something like that. It changes that. So then now
Speaker 2: we have to charge you this and and don't in
Speaker 2: the coding. The coding, like I said, you gotta hire
Speaker 2: a person just to do that. So taking insurance to
Speaker 2: the pain the ance. And that's why people who don't
Speaker 2: health providers who don't have to take insurance.
Speaker 1: Don't take insurance.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're established enough and you're and you're servicing
Speaker 2: a clientele that can handle it, they don't.
Speaker 1: I don't take insurance, okay. So she's there at the.
Speaker 2: Out of collegis they're like, hey, we're more we're not
Speaker 2: taking insurance anymore. We're moving to a subscription model. And
Speaker 2: the subscription model that they told her, I'd never heard
Speaker 2: of this, but apparently it's it's getting pretty popular that
Speaker 2: you pay per month to see this doctor and then
Speaker 2: they they your visits are covered. I don't know why guynoed.
Speaker 1: I guess like.
Speaker 2: If you're pregnant or but even't people are guy, no obstetrician,
Speaker 2: you know, okay whatever, but they're like, it's six thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a year, which is like five am I getting this?
Speaker 1: Am I doing the math round? It's like five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a month?
Speaker 2: No to continue to be a patient there now, your
Speaker 2: prescriptions and everything will still be covered on the insurance.
Speaker 2: But to see this doctor. And I'm also assuming that
Speaker 2: there are exclusions there are that this doctor will see
Speaker 2: you for office visits and write referrals and prescriptions, but
Speaker 2: if you need surgery, this doctor isn't gonna like consult
Speaker 2: at the hospital. I'm sure there's some exclusion there, or
Speaker 2: maybe they're like you can only come here twice a month.
Speaker 1: If you're here three, you have to pay it. There's
Speaker 1: got to be some exclusions.
Speaker 2: To this, because otherwise, h if you, if you're primary
Speaker 2: for physicians, did that, you could just be there every
Speaker 2: other week and just sit in lobby and be and
Speaker 2: be like, I'm looking for I need.
Speaker 1: You to describe you some atobiotics.
Speaker 2: You really could do that. But she expressed disappointment, and
Speaker 2: it got a lot of traction. People are like what
Speaker 2: And obviously a lot of people who were looking at
Speaker 2: that don't live this woman looked at lived in New
Speaker 2: York City. It's like going to California and getting gas, right,
Speaker 2: you'd be like, oh, god damn, But that's how much
Speaker 2: gas costs in California, and that's how things are priced,
Speaker 2: and if you're driving that how much it costs. Whereas
Speaker 2: in Virginia that's not how much gas costs. So I
Speaker 2: guess I would be surprised. But a lot of remember,
Speaker 2: threads is not just the people who live in your
Speaker 2: geographic area. The the threads are everybody, and so there
Speaker 2: are lots that's six thousand dollars look crazy to a
Speaker 2: lot of people. People were saying she won't have any clients,
Speaker 2: and the op was basically saying, no, it's new. I'm
Speaker 2: sure she'll have plenty of clients, but it can't be me.
Speaker 2: So then the doctor enters the chat. So she starts
Speaker 2: writing these long fucking paragraphs in the comments basically just
Speaker 2: explained like defending themselves and saying, you know, this wasn't
Speaker 2: from greed, and that as the healthcare professionals are often overworked,
Speaker 2: and underpaid, which is true.
Speaker 1: I mean, and also I know some people be like underpaid, Yeah,
Speaker 1: underpaid for what they're doing. Yeah, you know, maybe it's
Speaker 1: just because somebody makes more money and it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they're not underpaid. And just paragraphs and paragraphs and paragraphs.
Speaker 1: And that's when I.
Speaker 2: Found out that this doctor was doctor Camilia Camilla from
Speaker 2: fucking real Ward, Boston.
Speaker 1: And if you might remember, just a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: I post it on threads.
Speaker 2: I posted there and I said to myself, I said,
Speaker 2: I want you to imagine that you run a nonprofit,
Speaker 2: underfunded after school program for underserved children on their share
Speaker 2: of communities. MDD comes to you and they say to you, hey,
Speaker 2: we are Hit Show the real World. We'd like our
Speaker 2: cast this year to work there, and we can promote
Speaker 2: your organization and hopefully get the word out, and we
Speaker 2: can also provide some labor for you, and maybe they
Speaker 2: also and here's a check. Okay great, so and you're like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: this sounds fine, and then immediately you realize that seven
Speaker 2: of the new employees, four of them don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about me.
Speaker 2: Four of them don't even want to come to work,
Speaker 2: like you have to ask where they are. They're like, well,
Speaker 2: I've been sick.
Speaker 1: All week, Like like, if you could fire me, would
Speaker 1: but this is but I think you gotta you kind
Speaker 1: of have a deal with MTV, so you gotta have
Speaker 1: certain circumstances to fire them.
Speaker 2: And maybe I'm misremembering, but if you get fired, they
Speaker 2: leave the house. So you know they come to work
Speaker 2: every now and then.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: There's often arguments about who fucked who in the house
Speaker 2: last night with Elka and Dan mad at Camellia Camilla
Speaker 2: and because they just know she was doing it, and
Speaker 2: the and the kids are just sitting there coloring, like
Speaker 2: Camilia Camilla is, uh, defending her pussy and Elka and
Speaker 2: Dan are all of in her pussy's business.
Speaker 1: The kids are just coloring. And then there's an impromptu
Speaker 1: uh lesson about homophobia because one of.
Speaker 2: The kids says, I I hate gay people, and Genesis
Speaker 2: is there, and uh, Camilia Camilla is is giving a
Speaker 2: small short lesson on homophobia and how gay people are
Speaker 2: people and you may know some gay people, and she
Speaker 2: doesn't point at Genesis, but she it's obviously talking about Genesis,
Speaker 2: except for to the fucking child, and you have to get.
Speaker 1: The phone call from the from the parent to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: so I didn't know that you were going to be
Speaker 1: doing gay pride at the after school thing yesterday. Did
Speaker 1: I miss a handout or some sort of waiver I
Speaker 1: was supposed to sign, like why did my kid come
Speaker 1: home and want to talk about gay people for three hours?
Speaker 1: Can you can you help me out with that? What's
Speaker 1: going on? So, but you have to feel that conversation
Speaker 1: because they did that.
Speaker 2: And then then then then one of the uh, the
Speaker 2: seven new workers is fucking apparent. It's fucking apparent.
Speaker 1: And you know, usually people you hire would know not
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, ah, that's a little too complicated, but
Speaker 2: you know, this is the real world, and so they're
Speaker 2: fucking apparent.
Speaker 1: They got an attitude about it.
Speaker 2: And the kid has to be in the after school
Speaker 2: care knowing they saw that motherfucker come out of their
Speaker 2: mama's room this morning. Everybody's up at arms. It's all
Speaker 2: they're fucking talking about. You have to run another seminar
Speaker 2: with the actual employees and the real world employees that
Speaker 2: says things like, hey, please don't make out with the
Speaker 2: parents in the parking lot. Things look obvious.
Speaker 1: Shit. And then and then they go on a field
Speaker 1: trip and sip store a festival or carnival or something,
Speaker 1: and one one, I think it was two dan one
Speaker 1: gave a child some wine and then asked the child
Speaker 1: to be quiet about it.
Speaker 2: That was never gonna happen. You don't, you don't. You
Speaker 2: don't go into a listen that child having a spewine.
Speaker 2: That did not ruin their lives. However, anybody with a
Speaker 2: smige of sens knows not to give somebody else's child.
Speaker 1: Alcohol, not maybe not to give your own child alcohol.
Speaker 2: But I understand somebody's gonna be like the kids in
Speaker 2: Italy they drink wine in their bottles. Okay, we're not
Speaker 2: in fucking Italy, and that's not your kid. And so
Speaker 2: anybody with a snige of sense knows you can't do that.
Speaker 2: You can't do that. And also when you did it,
Speaker 2: and you told that kid not to tell baby, he
Speaker 2: was already figuring out how he was gonna tell this
Speaker 2: story to the other kids, to his mama, to the mailman,
Speaker 2: to his dog.
Speaker 1: He was ready. Okay, don't you ever try to commit
Speaker 1: a crime with a child. These mother, the fuckers tell
Speaker 1: it so, so so, and then so when you find
Speaker 1: out that she's given alcohol to a child in your program,
Speaker 1: you know, the one where they expect you to, I
Speaker 1: don't know, help the kids who a little homework, play
Speaker 1: some go outside the playground and play, maybe feed them
Speaker 1: a snack chaferon on a field trip. This is what
Speaker 1: your program supposed to do, not having kids doing shots
Speaker 1: at Saint Patty's Day. Pray okay, And who's got to
Speaker 1: have that conversation with the parents. You do? You do
Speaker 1: because this.
Speaker 2: Is your program and who's going And then you have
Speaker 2: to go have a conversation with the woman that did
Speaker 2: it again, I think Dan was it on too. The
Speaker 2: woman who did it, she got an attitude, She got
Speaker 2: an attitude.
Speaker 1: She don't know why you're coming over there and talk
Speaker 1: to her about this, because what's the big deal?
Speaker 2: Now, imagine that was your job for what is it?
Speaker 2: They probably filmed for three to four months, probably foist
Speaker 2: on the on the forest side. Imagine imagine I put
Speaker 2: that post up and you know what the thing is
Speaker 2: is that, Uh, everybody, remember I didn't say real world Boston.
Speaker 2: I didn't even say real world in it. But immediately
Speaker 2: people were like, that was a fever season. I can't
Speaker 2: I can't believe, we can't watch it. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I knew you were talking about real world Boston immediately.
Speaker 2: I There are also some people that were like, hey,
Speaker 2: who was fucking apparent?
Speaker 1: I was like, that was the fucking storyline in the show.
Speaker 1: This is before we would have them tweeting about it
Speaker 1: and we would have uh uh a live show afterwards
Speaker 1: and after show. This is before all that. So the
Speaker 1: so if I know this, it's because it was a
Speaker 1: story line in the fucking show. They didn't do stuff
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: They didn't come out and talk about things after the
Speaker 2: rally show like they do now.
Speaker 1: So a lot of them didn't fucking know that.
Speaker 2: A lot of them didn't fucking know that Montana, my
Speaker 2: dad gave that kid. Why A lot of other ones
Speaker 2: wanted to talk I keep saying Dan, his name is Sean. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about Sean and how he has
Speaker 2: become like a piece of shit in the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: That's not what I was talking about. They were like,
Speaker 2: why not call out that?
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Bro, what the fuck? I'm not calling
Speaker 1: out anybody. I'm imagining what it would be like to
Speaker 1: be Anthony the program director and just have like your
Speaker 1: hands in your head, your head in your hands at
Speaker 1: the end of the day on your desk that's full
Speaker 1: of papers in your tiny office that you probably share
Speaker 1: with six other people, and just be.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, oh my god, and the phones
Speaker 2: ringing off the hook because it's just parents being like.
Speaker 1: So, who did come in a fuck like shit like that?
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. I am not supporting fucking
Speaker 1: shot that piece of shit. I'm not supporting him and
Speaker 1: his and his Republican barbie wife who is Latina from
Speaker 1: the Real World La.
Speaker 2: I'm not reporting those mother I'm not supporting those motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the goddamn show.
Speaker 1: You make a post about politics if that's what you
Speaker 1: want to late, get the fuck out of my face. Anyway.
Speaker 2: What the doctor in question was doctor Camillia Camilla from
Speaker 2: Real World Boston. She's all grown up now, obviously.
Speaker 1: She's likely gosh, she's probably in her fifties. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: she is unless she was super young on the show.
Speaker 1: I think Elka was the baby.
Speaker 2: Though everybody said Elka was so cool, I thought Genesis
Speaker 2: was cool as shit. Her smoking those fucking cigarettes, arguing
Speaker 2: with her girlfriend. And I thought she was cool as shit,
Speaker 2: her blonde and her and her her her lip liner,
Speaker 2: and I thought she.
Speaker 1: Was cooly shit. Yeah. Anyway, uh So it turned out
Speaker 1: to be her.
Speaker 2: And this was shocking because you know, I feel like me,
Speaker 2: Liz and three other people are the only people.
Speaker 1: That remember her. And you know, people were coming at
Speaker 1: her saying that.
Speaker 2: She she violated hippa.
Speaker 1: Hippa is spelled hipaa.
Speaker 2: It is an acronym for a law in which you
Speaker 2: cannot It's it's basically managing the private information of your
Speaker 2: patients and so and a lot of people did not
Speaker 2: understand that, and during the pandemic because they they thought
Speaker 2: they were the their job was violating hippa by asking
Speaker 2: them did they get to vaccinated?
Speaker 1: And the truth, that's not what that is.
Speaker 2: It's for medical professionals and medical institutions.
Speaker 1: It's not for regular people.
Speaker 2: If I find out you have HERPEES and I tell everybody,
Speaker 2: unless I'm your doctor, it doesn't matter. Unless i'm your doctor,
Speaker 2: I work at the clinic that you go to, or
Speaker 2: I work at the hospital or something like that, then
Speaker 2: it doesn't it's not hippa. It's specifically so that you
Speaker 2: can allow your information to go to your doctor and
Speaker 2: anybody else that's caring for you without being worried that
Speaker 2: they can then turn around and tell so what.
Speaker 1: I think you can subpoena.
Speaker 2: It, but you know, I think that varies from state
Speaker 2: to state, jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Yeah, I know you can
Speaker 2: subpoena Sabina. Actually, that's how they get therapist records and
Speaker 2: things like that. So people are saying she violated HIPPA.
Speaker 2: I actually don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1: I think she maybe she did because she identified because
Speaker 1: the patient never identified her.
Speaker 2: She identified herself in the comments and saying apparently saying
Speaker 2: that that is her patient is like a violation. Uh,
Speaker 2: like a therapist could not tell y could not be like,
Speaker 2: that's my therapy patient right over there. That's not They're
Speaker 2: not allowed to do that. I don't know if it's that,
Speaker 2: if that's the if it's that cut and dried, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't claim to be a fucking lawyer, Okay,
Speaker 2: but you know, there's just been a lot of discourse
Speaker 2: around it. Why did she do that? Let's give her grace,
Speaker 2: blah bah blah, blah. And this is one of those
Speaker 2: classic things about defending yourself on the internet and how
Speaker 2: that can blow up in your face if like nobody
Speaker 2: knew it was her, and so like, I understand wanting
Speaker 2: to defend yourself, but like unless you said.
Speaker 1: Something no one, no it was you, and.
Speaker 2: Unless I mean maybe someone sent it to her, I
Speaker 2: don't know, cause they knew that she was a gynecologist.
Speaker 2: The the resided in New York City that was changing
Speaker 2: to six thousand dollars a year a subscription. Maybe that's
Speaker 2: how she found out. Maybe, But defitting on it yourself
Speaker 2: on the internet almost never works, unless it can be
Speaker 2: something very short, like people are accusing you of being
Speaker 2: maggot or something like that, and you can just get
Speaker 2: on in and be like, no, I'm not, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't know who told you that, or they're accusing
Speaker 2: you of like having a certain criminal history. If it's
Speaker 2: short and sweet, and you can get on the internet
Speaker 2: and immediately say Nope, that's not me. Sorry the look
Speaker 2: I think you're looking for somebody else. But if you
Speaker 2: have to pull get into semantics, if you have to
Speaker 2: do that, you probably shouldn't. You probably shouldn't and the
Speaker 2: reason is.
Speaker 1: That because.
Speaker 2: That sort of arguing back and forth will always draw
Speaker 2: more attention to you than not. Right, if it's gotta
Speaker 2: have nuance and you have to and you need a
Speaker 2: forty six page power point with receipts, you probably are
Speaker 2: doing better by ignoring it or by addressing only certain
Speaker 2: parts of it. But it's real tricky. It's real fucking tricky.
Speaker 2: I understand it where she was coming from, but this
Speaker 2: is just not how you're supposed to do. And for
Speaker 2: all of us to find out it was the girl
Speaker 2: from the real world even worse, even worse, Here's how
Speaker 2: I would have handled it. I would have seen who
Speaker 2: it was, and hopefully I could determine I think this
Speaker 2: person had their name in their handle anyway, hopefully I
Speaker 2: could determine who it was, and I would reach out
Speaker 2: to them privately to ask for a phone call. And
Speaker 2: on the phone, I would let them know that I'm
Speaker 2: really sorry that they felt shocked and slighted and basically fired. Right,
Speaker 2: they felt fired from her practice, And I would say,
Speaker 2: you know the let me tell you a little bit
Speaker 2: about it. The reason I know they told you were
Speaker 2: moving to the subscription. Let me tell you about the
Speaker 2: reason and explaining that when she was working with insurance,
Speaker 2: there would be a five hundred dollars so a service
Speaker 2: she would charge five hundred dollars and they would only
Speaker 2: pay her two hundred, and that led to her having
Speaker 2: to have to make that to make up. That difference
Speaker 2: in volume meant that she couldn't give her patients the
Speaker 2: level of service that's what she wanted to She wanted
Speaker 2: to be able to sit in there and talk to you.
Speaker 2: She wanted to answer all your questions, and being beholden
Speaker 2: to the insurance model meant that she couldn't do that.
Speaker 2: And this isn't the way she envisioned being a doctor.
Speaker 2: This isn't the way she envisioned helping people. And so
Speaker 2: she really felt like this is the right thing to
Speaker 2: do for herself and her practice and her patients. But
Speaker 2: she does understand that not all her patients can can
Speaker 2: can afford that, or can participate in this. So I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I hate to lose you as a patient because of this,
Speaker 2: but I just want to explain to you why it's
Speaker 2: not that I don't like being your doctor. It's not
Speaker 2: that I'm like trying to get a house in the Hampton's.
Speaker 2: It's really not that. It's a combinations of things and
Speaker 2: it just felt like the right way to go. Now
Speaker 2: it's for you. Since this isn't gonna work for you,
Speaker 2: can I help you find another doctor now? Obviously, I mean,
Speaker 2: if they were worth their salt anyway, the front desk
Speaker 2: would have had a list of doctors that take that
Speaker 2: insurance to like, like start here, even if it's just
Speaker 2: three doctors, you can say here, check and see if
Speaker 2: they're doing new patients. They I've confirmed that they do
Speaker 2: take that insurance, so hopefully you'll be able.
Speaker 1: To get in with them.
Speaker 2: And if they can't, ask them if they have any
Speaker 2: if they have any suggestions or for this. But that's
Speaker 2: what they should have been doing at the front desk
Speaker 2: when they told when they told her about the six
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. But if they didn't, this is a great
Speaker 2: time to do that. And if they did, this is
Speaker 2: a great time to say, hey, I want to I'm
Speaker 2: gonna connect you with my admin who is gonna work
Speaker 2: with you to find a new to get to find
Speaker 2: a new provider and like get an appointment there. Well
Speaker 2: they'll just help you figure it out. And I'm really
Speaker 2: sorry that's your felt that way, that private conversation in
Speaker 2: which you are acknowledging that this patient is feeling a
Speaker 2: certain way, but also explaining why this is the way
Speaker 2: you need to go. We'll have done wonders that ope
Speaker 2: to come back to her, to her post and said, hey,
Speaker 2: I just actually talked she saw this and she you know,
Speaker 2: I feel so much better about what she told me.
Speaker 2: And I just want you guys to know that she's
Speaker 2: not like a lot of you are, assuming she's being
Speaker 2: malicious ingredient and stuff, but that's not what's going on.
Speaker 1: And she's helping me find another provider that can do
Speaker 1: what I need to do.
Speaker 2: And I just really appreciate that, Like, that's probably the
Speaker 2: good will you have gotten from just that conversation. Would
Speaker 2: have would have been a thousand percent more, a thousand
Speaker 2: percent better than you in the comments trying to explain
Speaker 2: the position. I don't know I should I be like
Speaker 2: a pr rap Is that what I should do?
Speaker 1: No? No, I just know.
Speaker 2: What I would have wanted in that situation. I post
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff on threads. A lot of it
Speaker 2: gets a lot of likes. I'm not sure why. I
Speaker 2: think it's because of the subjects. I'm posting about kids,
Speaker 2: I'm posting about eternal I.
Speaker 1: Found I'm posting. I put a comment on one on one.
Speaker 2: Post about what to do if you get the ick
Speaker 2: to a married person, like if you're married and you
Speaker 2: get the EG and she's like, I would cry, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I opretunly, like I didn't see that.
Speaker 2: I'm not selling my house and seeing my kids half
Speaker 2: the time because you eat spaghetti weird.
Speaker 1: I'll just bam spaghetti in this house.
Speaker 2: I will wait until you go to sleep and get
Speaker 2: that outfit that is killing me and I will stuff
Speaker 2: it in a trash bag and stuff at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the trash and pretend and I'll.
Speaker 1: Help you look for it. Yeah, you gotta do. You
Speaker 1: gotta do what you fucking gotta do.
Speaker 2: And people underneath that there's a lot of likes and comments,
Speaker 2: but people underneath they were like, well, what if you
Speaker 2: find out that you're that that your man is rude
Speaker 2: to staff and baby, you know what to do if
Speaker 2: you find out that you're that your that your husband
Speaker 2: or wife is a bad person, you know what to do.
Speaker 1: There. You don't need me to tell you that.
Speaker 2: But that's not what an itch is an itch is
Speaker 2: doesn't have any morality behind it.
Speaker 1: So an it is.
Speaker 2: They they're sneezes are way over the top for no
Speaker 2: fucking reason.
Speaker 1: Like every time they sneeze is like huh like something
Speaker 1: like that. That's an eck, which the first thing I'd
Speaker 1: be like is, well, are you okay? Are you okay?
Speaker 1: What is that? What was that? Theater kid asked, fucking sneeze?
Speaker 1: You just did? But I would. I might. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're getting enough war and they're gonna sneeze. I fight
Speaker 1: leave the road. I might embarrass them toil they stop.
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of things I can do.
Speaker 2: I'm not leaving anybody over that, though, especially after I've
Speaker 2: entangled my my finances with you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. You're gonna have to do better than that
Speaker 1: to get me hired. I'm not.
Speaker 2: But I get a lot of stuff like that, And
Speaker 2: so I understand where the op was coming from.
Speaker 1: When like they just like, we're like, girl, can y'all believe?
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah, And they're thinking like twenty maybe
Speaker 1: fifty one hundred people are gonna see this and and
Speaker 1: and be like, what are you crazy?
Speaker 2: Boom, you know that's what they think they're gonna get
Speaker 2: some friends, some fun, just a couple of people commenting
Speaker 2: on it and like validating them.
Speaker 1: And it getsself. It's like twenty million likes in all
Speaker 1: these fucking comments. I understand there's plenty of things that
Speaker 1: I'm posting on. I was like, what the fuck? I
Speaker 1: thought six people were gonna comment on this. I thought
Speaker 1: Liz van for the best weekend ever, my cousin. I
Speaker 1: thought the people never gonna comment on it. Maybe Caro,
Speaker 1: if she sees it, she's she's so much better at
Speaker 1: social media than I am, that she's doing other things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought three people were gonna see it, And now
Speaker 1: I know he's fucking opinions and everything. Yeah, I totally
Speaker 1: understand how how that can happen to you. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 2: That person does not have a professional responsibility a professional
Speaker 2: duty doctor Camilla does.
Speaker 1: And that's just how it goes anyway. I hope people
Speaker 1: will give her a little grace and I hope she
Speaker 1: didn't violate hippo with that, But if she did, Jesus Christ, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think the op's interested in pursuing sanctions or
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck you would pursue and you know what,
Speaker 1: People are so fucking weird on the internet. I bet
Speaker 1: you a couple of people were reported her to the
Speaker 1: medical board.
Speaker 2: Do you think that people are so fucking weird on
Speaker 2: the internet, so weird they love to try to get
Speaker 2: somebody fired over a difference of fucking opinions. Like That's
Speaker 2: another one that blew up that long where I talked
Speaker 2: about how at the place I used to work, they
Speaker 2: didn't really care if you about your kid as long
Speaker 2: as your kids stayed in your area and didn't disturb
Speaker 2: everybody else. So I did bring my kid. A guy
Speaker 2: came in my office to ask me a question he
Speaker 2: could have emailed me. We were we talked via email
Speaker 2: all the time. I and he said, why is your
Speaker 2: kid here? And this was cheeks when he scratched his cornea,
Speaker 2: he had a it wasn't a scratch, it was an
Speaker 2: eye ulcer. And so he's sitting there in an eyepatch,
Speaker 2: looking at a book or maybe his tablet, and he's
Speaker 2: like in the corner behind me, and he's like, I
Speaker 2: was like, he's not feeling well. He's like, dude, was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: if he's sick, he shouldn't be here. To get the
Speaker 2: rest of them sick. And I told him he is
Speaker 2: free to go back to his office, right because you
Speaker 2: don't have to be if you think you're gonna get
Speaker 2: sick from him, you don't have to be in here.
Speaker 1: And I also mentioned that I had a coworker who
Speaker 1: uh a coworker who brought her main coon cats and
Speaker 1: she had two of them. Thinking answer Jack and G,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I wasn't really introduced to him
Speaker 1: like that, and these huge, motherfucking cats were in her office.
Speaker 2: She had a sign saying don't open the door because
Speaker 2: they might run out.
Speaker 1: I don't I think she was in there because she
Speaker 1: was moving or there was some reason that those cats
Speaker 1: had to come to work with her. And I didn't
Speaker 1: say shit. I didn't say a god damn thing, because
Speaker 1: guess what what the fuck them cats get to do
Speaker 1: with me? If I was unhappy those cats that's where
Speaker 1: it work.
Speaker 2: I would just go I'll go back in my office
Speaker 2: and close the dooring my my fucking business. And so
Speaker 2: I wrote about that. I got so many people commenting
Speaker 2: won they want to know about them cats? Don't post
Speaker 2: about a cat on the internet.
Speaker 1: And then some.
Speaker 2: People being like cat allergies people could die. Sure, I
Speaker 2: didn't bring those cats. You guys know how I feel
Speaker 2: about pets just going every fucking where.
Speaker 1: Although if you have a cop, if you have.
Speaker 2: An office cat or an office dog, I don't see
Speaker 2: the problem.
Speaker 1: In that, as long as anybody that wants.
Speaker 2: To work there, or anybody wants to come in there
Speaker 2: and understands there's a cat or a dog here.
Speaker 1: He works here with.
Speaker 2: Who he's actually on time and a half's, And then
Speaker 2: it would be great if you put like a little
Speaker 2: if it as a cat, you put it like a
Speaker 2: little bow tie and like a suit. Okay, that would
Speaker 2: be great. But that's where that pet.
Speaker 1: Belongs, and they go there every day.
Speaker 2: But you know, I just don't think necessary for us
Speaker 2: the dragar pets to whole foods and while water Country
Speaker 2: USA and various other things.
Speaker 1: But so I understand what someone was trying to say,
Speaker 1: what about alergies, But.
Speaker 2: I have no fucking cats. And also my son had
Speaker 2: an eye patch on. So if he thought my son
Speaker 2: had a cough or a flu or whatever, YadA, YadA YadA,
Speaker 2: I think you think he just where the eye patch
Speaker 2: for fucking fun.
Speaker 1: And he was telling people he was getting sick.
Speaker 2: From my child's corneal ulcer shut up because he didn't know,
Speaker 2: he didn't care to ask. Yeah, So I got so
Speaker 2: many people, mostly you were talking about the cats never
Speaker 2: pals about cats on the anent, and other people were
Speaker 2: talking mostly like you know, about how what an asshole
Speaker 2: he is. But there are a couple that were like,
Speaker 2: like you, like you should have answered his question. You
Speaker 2: should have gave him this and this and that, and
Speaker 2: he had he needed to come in your office to
Speaker 2: do He.
Speaker 1: Didn't need to come in my office. He didn't need
Speaker 1: to come in my.
Speaker 2: Office, as evidence by the fact he went back to
Speaker 2: his desk and sent me an email and got his answer.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: So I got so many people talking about this, and
Speaker 2: I did preface this with I used to have this
Speaker 2: job a while ago, and and I was like, this
Speaker 2: does not affect work, this is not I did not
Speaker 2: need that man's permission. He did not own the company,
Speaker 2: he didn't own this office, okay, And in fact, he
Speaker 2: was in a cubicle, So what do you want from me?
Speaker 2: He was in a cubicle, So go back to your cubicle.
Speaker 2: And so, yeah, like I I, he didn't question the
Speaker 2: main cooncats. He won't looking up in there, asking what
Speaker 2: they were doing, what their names were, whether they were sick.
Speaker 1: He didn't ask no fue questions, And which is fun
Speaker 1: because I didn't ask these questions either. I didn't ask
Speaker 1: any questions.
Speaker 2: It just seemed like, you know, if I'm not her
Speaker 2: boss and I'm not in charge's office, if somebody want
Speaker 2: to tell her get rid of these coon cats whatever.
Speaker 2: Those cats when they eat other cats, those cats looked
Speaker 2: like the apex cats in the neighbor the apex predators
Speaker 2: of the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Those are big ass fucking catsu. They're like small dogs,
Speaker 1: right Like, if I was a regular science cat and
Speaker 1: them big ass cats showed up somewhere, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: let's go home, Let's go home.
Speaker 2: I don't want no trouble. Let's go home. Why I'm
Speaker 2: a Trader Jones anyway, please take me home. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't ask no fucking questions, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And he didn't ask her no questions either, But he
Speaker 2: had a lot of questions about my kid. Now, let
Speaker 2: me be clear. This guy was an absolute kid hater.
Speaker 2: And then he fucking hated kids, and that's all he
Speaker 2: talked about. And that's he talked about that quite a bit, okay,
Speaker 2: Like nobody asked you. I didn't offer you any children.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I did not speak about my children to him. Maybe
Speaker 2: he saw a picture of them on my desk or
Speaker 2: something like that, but he always had the it was
Speaker 2: very important for him to bring this up.
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, good for you, Like I don't
Speaker 1: care you and his.
Speaker 2: Partner with her as well, this happened, you and your
Speaker 2: partner of sixteen years that don't believe in marriage or children.
Speaker 1: That sounds fine, that sounds fine. Well why are you
Speaker 1: bringing this up? Let's talk about this fucking exhale thing.
Speaker 2: I never asked you none of that shit, okay, And
Speaker 2: this is also the third time you've mentioned it to me,
Speaker 2: So what are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Anyway? Somebody underneath there was just
Speaker 1: they were so upset by that. They were like, this.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a smug workplace, blah blah blah. I was like,
Speaker 2: you can go back to your office too, and so
Speaker 2: go right back to where the fuck you belong to.
Speaker 2: If you don't like what's happening over here, go or
Speaker 2: right back the way you belong and they were like
Speaker 2: implying that they were gonna try to get me fired.
Speaker 1: They were like, does your boss know about this?
Speaker 2: Maybe they need to know, and I'm like, they fine,
Speaker 2: A fine. First of all, I don't work there anymore.
Speaker 2: I think the company went out of business or they
Speaker 2: got absorbed by somebody else. But yeah, go ahead and
Speaker 2: like find them and let them know how mean I am, and.
Speaker 1: How I had my son there. Gosh, she was small
Speaker 1: eight years ago. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: And also the reason I was in the office is
Speaker 2: because you have to put dots like this drops in
Speaker 2: his eyes over and it's really painful.
Speaker 1: You have to put these drops in his eyes over
Speaker 1: and over again.
Speaker 2: And that's why he wasn't at summer camp, because I
Speaker 2: did not believe that a YMCA employee who is a
Speaker 2: nineteen year old trying to get some summer work.
Speaker 1: Should be in charge of putting that shit in his
Speaker 1: ear as well as the other thirty kids that are
Speaker 1: running around I can like assholes.
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was a fair I think that
Speaker 2: if I showed up and I was like, you have
Speaker 2: to give them this medicine every hour, they would have
Speaker 2: tried to. But I don't think they would have been successful.
Speaker 2: And I also don't think that was fair, Like that's
Speaker 2: something you handle at home. And I didn't want to
Speaker 2: be there, but they needed me and I was the
Speaker 2: only one that they could do it. And so it
Speaker 2: was either don't show up here and the thing that
Speaker 2: y'all really.
Speaker 1: Want to happen won't happen, or bring him and let
Speaker 1: him chill in the office.
Speaker 2: Which one do you want to do? I'll tell you
Speaker 2: my boss wanted to do that, so that's what I did. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that's a long story. I really hope nobody. People are
Speaker 2: just so eager to get people fired over very casual things.
Speaker 1: It's like a power trip.
Speaker 2: It's very different than a nurse getting on there and
Speaker 2: telling you that she hates Hispanic people and every time
Speaker 2: she hears someone speaking Spanish when she comes in, she
Speaker 2: makes sure to not give them the real vaccines or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's very different. That is a workplace thing that we
Speaker 1: need to talk. It's very different than someone in a
Speaker 1: company car being caught on the caught on a video
Speaker 1: that's on TikTok being incredibly like aggressive towards someone and
Speaker 1: just being real crazy. That's different. It's different than someone
Speaker 1: who a company if that company knew.
Speaker 2: About the what they're doing, would will not want to
Speaker 2: be represented by them. That's different somebody who's opinion you
Speaker 2: don't like. Someone who thinks Minn does not have to
Speaker 2: be in is not good enough to be in.
Speaker 1: Cats are baby, That's not so. I call people's jobs
Speaker 1: in this economy, in this economy Jesus. Anyway, that's all
Speaker 1: I got today.
Speaker 2: I will catch up with you guys on Monday when
Speaker 2: we finish my fair Brady.
Speaker 1: Until then, tootles the gy ca them Tim