Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: That guy who faked his own death the kayaker in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Apparently he's back and he's in custody. He came back
Speaker 1: on his own because of his family. I thought that
Speaker 1: was the reason he left in the first same, same, same.
Speaker 1: It must have been a different reason. Maybe he ran
Speaker 1: out of fresh underwear or something. He was in Eastern Europe.
Speaker 1: He'd done it. He had faked his own death. He
Speaker 1: was living his life, he was free of the kids.
Speaker 1: Now he's back.
Speaker 3: Well, the heart wants what the heart, heart.
Speaker 2: Wants, fresh underwear.
Speaker 3: We will talk the latest.
Speaker 4: Coming up, we'll talk about the latest news we know
Speaker 4: about Luigi Mangioni. Apparently officials now have the notebook that
Speaker 4: detailed plans for the shooting and even included a logical
Speaker 4: breakdown of water. He didn't want to blow up Brian
Speaker 4: Thompson with a bomb and instead chose to shoot him
Speaker 4: on the streets of Manhattan.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm.
Speaker 1: Always torn between airing out the manifesto and the reasons why,
Speaker 1: because I don't want them to have oxygen. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm such a curious person of what
Speaker 1: led to somebody acting like this, especially when they were
Speaker 1: born on third base.
Speaker 4: A couple of weird events involving members of Congress. Congresswoman
Speaker 4: Nancy Mace was allegedly assaulted at the Capitol by a
Speaker 4: man who is now in custody. She shared on social
Speaker 4: media that she was physically accosted by what she said
Speaker 4: was a pro transman protesting the congresswoman's controversial comments on
Speaker 4: transgender rights. And then also Marjorie Taylor Green announced that
Speaker 4: a woman died in a car crash.
Speaker 3: With a bomb squad.
Speaker 4: The bomb squad was speeding to Marjorie Taylor Green's house
Speaker 4: because of a false alarm an email threat of a
Speaker 4: bomb inside her mailbox, and as the bomb squad was
Speaker 4: racing to her house, they got into an accident with
Speaker 4: this woman in Georgia, a woman named Tammy Pickle Seimer,
Speaker 4: what a name, ended up being killed Pickle Seimer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just very weird stories.
Speaker 4: We got updates just a short time ago regarding the
Speaker 4: Franklin fire burning over in Malibu.
Speaker 5: As of this morning, the Franklin fire has burned approximately
Speaker 5: three thousand, nine hundred and eighty three acres and is.
Speaker 3: Seven percent contained.
Speaker 5: This is a thirty nine percent increase in acreage overnight.
Speaker 5: One five hundred and thirty two fire personnel are assigned
Speaker 5: to the incident and crews are working tirelessly around the
Speaker 5: clock to establish containment lines and defend structures.
Speaker 1: Seven percent is a containment number I've never seen in
Speaker 1: twenty five years of covering fires.
Speaker 4: Well, I think what it is is, it's just it's
Speaker 4: a it's an indication of how specific, how granular the
Speaker 4: information can be now compared to what it was before.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, If if this had been ten years ago, he
Speaker 4: would have he whoever it was, would have just said
Speaker 4: a very general round number because it was easier. But
Speaker 4: now they have very specific and detailed mapping that they
Speaker 4: can get.
Speaker 1: In other news, Dick van Dyke is still with us.
Speaker 1: I thought he was dead, and how he has become
Speaker 1: the face of the fire is kind of comical. He's
Speaker 1: ninety eight or ninety nine. He turns ninety nine this Friday.
Speaker 1: I thought Dick van Dyke died like circa twenty ten.
Speaker 4: No, it's just that he's slowed down a little bit,
Speaker 4: but I see him show up in tabloids all the time,
Speaker 4: a really huge table in the tabloids.
Speaker 3: Well, let me read though, Well for him.
Speaker 1: The first time I've heard you mentioned that you've seen
Speaker 1: him in the tabloids.
Speaker 4: The tabloids stories about Dick van Dyke are from still alive.
Speaker 4: It's not that he's having an affair, or he's fathered
Speaker 4: a child out of wedlock or anything. It's that he's
Speaker 4: still alive and goes shopping in Malibu every once in
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 1: Really, I so I read people every week, and I
Speaker 1: haven't seen you have seen that Dick van Dyke mentioned
Speaker 1: since the nineties.
Speaker 4: He's going to get a lot of play in the
Speaker 4: next couple of days because they're going to talk about
Speaker 4: his house. They're going to talk about what do you
Speaker 4: do when you're ninety nine? That kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Apparently I just checked on the tabloids. There is a
Speaker 1: video of him singing and dancing in a Cold Play video.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, directed by Spike Jones. He sings, he dances barefoot, clicking.
Speaker 3: While you do.
Speaker 2: That was Dick van Dyke in what is he known for?
Speaker 3: Excuse me? The Dick Van Dyke Show.
Speaker 4: Maybe, Oh did you know. I'm sorry that, I mean
Speaker 4: it is before your time. I'll give you that Mary Poppins.
Speaker 2: Oh, is he the guy that was the dude in that?
Speaker 3: Yes, I never watched Mary Larry Poppins.
Speaker 1: I never watched Mary Poppins.
Speaker 4: And then he was in its whole series of probably
Speaker 4: sitcoms and dramatic comedy mystery shows or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, he was in the Carol Burnett Show and the
Speaker 1: New Dick Van Dyke Show, which ran seventy one to
Speaker 1: seventy four.
Speaker 2: I will see this one out.
Speaker 4: I don't remember him from Krol Barnette. He guest starred.
Speaker 4: Oh well, so he shows up every once in a while.
Speaker 4: Back to the fire, just very quickly, Chief Anthony Maroney
Speaker 4: in La County Fire.
Speaker 5: Last night, fire activity increased significantly along the western edge
Speaker 5: of the fire and began backing down into Corral Canyon,
Speaker 5: threatening the Malibu RV Park community.
Speaker 1: There you go, back to Dick. Yeah, okay, so bye
Speaker 1: bye Birdie. Chitty Chitty bang bang. These are all things
Speaker 1: that my mother would be well versed in, not me.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that makes me young. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that I am ignorant when it comes to Dick
Speaker 1: van Dyke, and I will spend the day educating myself.
Speaker 3: So it's ignorant.
Speaker 4: That brings with it to sort of a connotation that
Speaker 4: maybe you should have known everything about Dick van Dyke,
Speaker 4: and I would not have expected that.
Speaker 2: Jacob and Keana, do you know who Dick van Dyke is?
Speaker 3: I know the name, how Kenna's not in the room.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know the name, all right?
Speaker 4: But if I were to show you a picture of
Speaker 4: six ninety eight year old men, would you be able
Speaker 4: to pick him out of a lot of chass?
Speaker 3: Dang?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, understandable, I got it, completely understandable. The
Speaker 4: weather has fully cooperated with the firefighters when it comes
Speaker 4: to the Franklin fire. Now the official potentially dangerous situation
Speaker 4: red flag warning is up for another hour or so.
Speaker 4: Our normal red flag warning is up until six o'clock tonight.
Speaker 4: So we are not out of out of danger, you're
Speaker 4: just yet. But they have made some great progress in
Speaker 4: the temperatures today overnight et cetera have helped them significantly.
Speaker 1: Dick van Dyke just won an Emmy for a guest
Speaker 1: performance on Days of Our Lives. Oldest person to win
Speaker 1: a Daytime Emmy and the oldest to be nominated for
Speaker 1: one Wow.
Speaker 4: Speaking of fire, there was also a fire up in
Speaker 4: northern California destroyed one of the most famous homes up there,
Speaker 4: the Bidwell Mansion. I lived about one hundred yards away
Speaker 4: from the Bidwell Mansion in Chico. TV stations have been
Speaker 4: reporting that this structure that's about one hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: years old, caught fire at about three point thirty this
Speaker 4: morning and looks like it's going to collapse at any moment.
Speaker 4: It has been part of a state historical park for
Speaker 4: a long time, and it's been under restoration since May.
Speaker 4: But Bidwell Mansion in Chico looks like it's gone completely.
Speaker 1: Dick Van Dyke said of Donald Trump, I haven't been
Speaker 1: this scared since the Cuban missile crisis. Jacob, do you
Speaker 1: know what the Cuban missile crisis was?
Speaker 3: Yes? No, I know what it is.
Speaker 4: I'll show you six pictures of six international incidents in
Speaker 4: the last hundred years. You think you could pick out
Speaker 4: the human missile crisis.
Speaker 3: It's it's the one with Kennedy.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to close my Dick Van Dyke file. Okay,
Speaker 1: open your Luigi file. We'll talk about this big Luigi
Speaker 1: Mangioni file. What it's a big file. We know a
Speaker 1: lot about this kid because he didn't shut up online.
Speaker 4: And some of his roommates are talking too about what
Speaker 4: they would do for fun.
Speaker 1: Really, I haven't gotten into that that part.
Speaker 3: Of the file.
Speaker 4: It's kind of It shouldn't surprise you compared to what
Speaker 4: we've especially since what we've talked about about this guy already.
Speaker 1: But also going through somebody's book history and books they
Speaker 1: want to read, books they have read. It's very personal
Speaker 1: and intimate, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I've never thought of it that way.
Speaker 1: I haven't either until I went into his whole good
Speaker 1: Reads profile and I thought, Wow, I feel like I
Speaker 1: like know this. It's just books to me are very personal, interesting,
Speaker 1: and we know everything.
Speaker 2: We're going to have to build an AI desk.
Speaker 4: We did have a song at one point. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to find it again. Oh, is that really ominous? Like
Speaker 4: the storm clouds are brutes. It's going to end the world.
Speaker 1: So let's do that. We'll play that for you because
Speaker 1: we've got an AI story coming up in the next
Speaker 1: hour about Ai a companion, an AI companion telling somebody
Speaker 1: to kill their parents.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, carry Chaney. Is it wrong that every time
Speaker 3: he said Franklin fire, I think at the Peanuts and
Speaker 3: Charlie Brown Christmas and the music. Okay, maybe I'm a
Speaker 3: moral person, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Franklin the name of the cat that the old
Speaker 1: man had to give away? And then he named his
Speaker 1: new cat Franklin the Robotic Cat?
Speaker 2: Yesterday?
Speaker 3: That does sound right. I don't remember yesterday.
Speaker 1: So yesterday we talked about the Franklin fire a lot,
Speaker 1: and we also talked about old people that have fake pets.
Speaker 3: Robotic pets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we never found out about the fate of
Speaker 1: Franklin one, Like.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 3: Did it go? Sometimes?
Speaker 4: Twelve kill shelter cat was twelve? Oh well, if the
Speaker 4: cat was twelve, I think we kind of know what
Speaker 4: happened to Franklin.
Speaker 1: No, he had to give the cat away because the
Speaker 1: senior center didn't allow pets, which I think is.
Speaker 4: Give away the cat to God because God was like,
Speaker 4: it's time for Franklin to come home.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, Franklin was alive and well when he
Speaker 1: had to give the cat away.
Speaker 2: And what kind of senior home doesn't allow pets?
Speaker 3: Every senior home. Really, that's cruel.
Speaker 4: It's a healthcare facility. I can't bring my dog to
Speaker 4: the hospital.
Speaker 2: Why are you such a hardliner on this.
Speaker 3: I'm a rule follower. You know that.
Speaker 5: Hi, you too, longtime listener?
Speaker 6: And Shannon, have you not seen.
Speaker 4: Any of the Night at the Museum movies?
Speaker 7: Question Mark?
Speaker 1: No, period? I have not period. I want to see
Speaker 1: them though. Period.
Speaker 4: He played Cecil J. Fredericks. I don't remember that kids
Speaker 4: watched Night of Museum. That was kind of a that
Speaker 4: was in our It was in our lane at the
Speaker 4: right time, right.
Speaker 1: I think I was like in my early twenties or something,
Speaker 1: so I had no and no children.
Speaker 4: So in two thousand and six, yeah, you would have
Speaker 4: been early twenties, mid twenties, early, I'll say mid.
Speaker 3: Let's say early.
Speaker 2: Let's do that.
Speaker 3: Should we do that, Let's do that. We'll see.
Speaker 4: Three months after, she was blindsided by pictures of Don
Speaker 4: Junior enjoying an intimate brunch with another woman. The Don
Speaker 4: Junior Kimberly Gilfoyle engagement off.
Speaker 8: No way.
Speaker 3: I can't believe that you thought love was gonna last forever.
Speaker 2: God music, Oh, I believed in that romance.
Speaker 3: There's some tissue for you.
Speaker 4: Though for weeks he has been seen spending an increasing
Speaker 4: amount of time with Bettina Anderson, the socialites, the socialite,
Speaker 4: the it girl in Palm Beach, whould we say it?
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 4: Yesterday Press and Elect Trump made Kimberly Gilfoyle the Ambassador
Speaker 4: de Greece.
Speaker 3: Good for her.
Speaker 2: But that's a good, awesome, it's a good post. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a night.
Speaker 1: I would totally give up Don Junior for that ambassadorship.
Speaker 2: Have not had him in the first No, I would not.
Speaker 1: Have fingerprints found at the scene where the United Healthcare
Speaker 1: CEO was shot to death do match the suspects. According
Speaker 1: to police, there was a big narrative yesterday afternoon into
Speaker 1: the evening because everybody online, I swear to God, this
Speaker 1: story more than any that I can remember. Everyone is
Speaker 1: dug into this in terms of amateur sleuthing, more than
Speaker 1: I've ever remembered. And there was this narrative yesterday afternoon
Speaker 1: evening that they don't have the evidence. There's a big
Speaker 1: fight over his extradition. They weren't anticipating that, and why
Speaker 1: wouldn't they. This is somebody that comes from money. They're
Speaker 1: going to have the best lawyers I will be shocked
Speaker 1: if there's a conviction. And I know that's crazy to say,
Speaker 1: but for a number of reasons. Number One, the family
Speaker 1: can afford the best attorneys, sure. Number Two, that goes
Speaker 1: a lot further than you think it does, especially in
Speaker 1: terms of shady.
Speaker 2: Evidence like this.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't come out and say the fingerprints matched at
Speaker 1: this juncture if they weren't insecure about the evidence that
Speaker 1: they have against him. And number three, he has so
Speaker 1: much support among the eighty percent of people in this
Speaker 1: country who think the healthcare system is crap.
Speaker 4: To that end, the defense attorney has been getting calls
Speaker 4: from people offering to pay this guy's legal defense. This
Speaker 4: was the interview from CNN last time.
Speaker 3: We had seen.
Speaker 9: Reports earlier that there was you know, people were inundating
Speaker 9: you with offers to help pay for his legal bills.
Speaker 3: Is that accurate?
Speaker 9: I I have recent siege of emails.
Speaker 7: I have not seen him personally, but my understanding from
Speaker 7: my staff is people are doing that.
Speaker 9: The people are reaching out to you and offering to
Speaker 9: help pay for his legal bills.
Speaker 3: That's correct.
Speaker 4: So one of the former roommates of this guy that
Speaker 4: was interviewed last in the last couple of days regarding
Speaker 4: his time in Hawaii. Remember that supposedly when he injured
Speaker 4: or aggravated the injury that he had with his back
Speaker 4: that caused most of the problems lately. R. J. Martin
Speaker 4: is the roommate's name, said, one of the things they
Speaker 4: used to do for fun read the Unibomber's Manifesto.
Speaker 7: I actually proposed that we read. It's kind of half joke,
Speaker 7: but read the manifesto.
Speaker 1: We had a normal.
Speaker 3: Discussion debate around it.
Speaker 7: Nothing that stood out at the time, No anger, no
Speaker 7: a special affinity towards it, just you know, thought provoking discussion.
Speaker 4: The Unibomber Manifesto hits differently now in twenty twenty four
Speaker 4: than it did in nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1: Well, he did have an expansive reading list, and there
Speaker 1: were a lot of titles in there, like Thomas Hate
Speaker 1: Book about disconnecting and the Anious, the Anxious Generation, and
Speaker 1: the disconnecting from phones, and how social media is harmful
Speaker 1: in all of those things. He also had a number
Speaker 1: of self help books that he publicly liked. I mean,
Speaker 1: I come from an era of if you have a
Speaker 1: self help book, you don't advertise it, kind of hide
Speaker 1: that stuff. But he One of the ones that's picking
Speaker 1: up steam today is that he was a fan of
Speaker 1: the New York Times bestseller Adult Children of Emotionally Immature
Speaker 1: Parents subtext how to heal from distant, rejecting or self
Speaker 1: involved parents.
Speaker 2: Couple things.
Speaker 1: The fact that this is getting a lot of traction
Speaker 1: bothers me because blaming the parent, blaming your parents for
Speaker 1: anything really is so freaking lazy to me, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm this way because my parent was this way is
Speaker 1: just to me an excuse and a weird excuse to
Speaker 1: lie on or die on that hill you take it.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, everyone's got their own stuff. Everyone grows
Speaker 1: up with different stuff, but like, that's not the reason
Speaker 1: why you do X, Y and Z as an adult.
Speaker 4: Which is interesting because there were reports also of Okay,
Speaker 4: so we're still trying to narrow down the motive. The
Speaker 4: guy obviously hated corporate health or whatever general term you
Speaker 4: want to use, and whether it was this guy specifically
Speaker 4: targeted an insurance company, or if he was targeting the
Speaker 4: health care industry because he was in constant pain or whatever.
Speaker 4: The other issue that I saw yesterday was that his
Speaker 4: mother also had severe neuropathy and was in constant back
Speaker 4: pain as well.
Speaker 2: So because he that could have made her distant, well.
Speaker 4: It could have made her distant, but it could have
Speaker 4: also been he blames them for her distance. They blamed
Speaker 4: He blames the healthcare industry for not helping her caring
Speaker 4: for her.
Speaker 1: There's being upset about your parents' pain and what that
Speaker 1: means for you and the relationship.
Speaker 2: And then there's murder.
Speaker 1: I still go back to the occam's raiser of this
Speaker 1: was somebody who we've seen countless times have a psychotic
Speaker 1: break in their early twenties as a male like it
Speaker 1: just it happens, unfortunately for some people.
Speaker 3: And the age. Like you said, yeah, this is within
Speaker 3: that window. A couple things.
Speaker 4: We'll come back and talk about the issue of social banditry,
Speaker 4: that theory that you talked about yesterday, but also wanted
Speaker 4: posters have started showing up in New York City, wanted
Speaker 4: posters that feature pictures of other healthcare corporate leaders on
Speaker 4: traffic control boxes throughout Manhattan. So there's a picture of
Speaker 4: Brian Thompson, but it's got red X through it. There's
Speaker 4: pictures of optim Health CEO, the United Health Group CEO's
Speaker 4: still not clear who put the pictures up, but the
Speaker 4: Franklin Fire continues to burn in the health above Malibu.
Speaker 4: The update from this morning is that at least seven
Speaker 4: homes were destroyed eight damaged, but officials said that number
Speaker 4: could rise as they do more complete assessments. So far,
Speaker 4: the Franklin fire is just under four thousand acres, about
Speaker 4: seven percent contained. The potentially dangerous red flag warning is
Speaker 4: supposed to expire at ten this morning. The normal red
Speaker 4: flag fire warning is weather warning is supposed to be
Speaker 4: up until six o'clock tonight.
Speaker 3: A couple of these. We got to get through some
Speaker 3: of these because I got Good morning, Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 3: This is Ray from Mersido.
Speaker 5: Let's not forget about Jerry van Dyke, who passed away
Speaker 5: a few years ago.
Speaker 3: And don't forget there's a Barry van Dyke. You know,
Speaker 3: the family's all in entertainment. When we're another miss Jerry
Speaker 3: van Dyke. He was funny on coach. Anyway, have a
Speaker 3: nice day. He was great on coach. That was a
Speaker 3: good show. That was a fun show.
Speaker 8: Shannon, we're going to accept your ignorance on Dick Van Dyke.
Speaker 8: I can't even believe you said such a thing. I
Speaker 8: know I am younger than you, and I know everything
Speaker 8: almost that he's been in. I literally was just seeing
Speaker 8: kids from Bye Bye Birdie yesterday.
Speaker 2: Could you not know who.
Speaker 10: Magan?
Speaker 3: We're just going to accept your ignorance.
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you, You guys from Reno Valley have
Speaker 8: a great day.
Speaker 3: I love that name.
Speaker 1: That's a great name. I I knew it. I knew
Speaker 1: it was going to anger people, and I knew that
Speaker 1: I was ignorant. And I'm sorry, do you not know
Speaker 1: who Dick? I remember him being on like Niket night,
Speaker 1: but it was just not my it was not my my.
Speaker 1: It's a blind spot. We have blind spots.
Speaker 4: The biggest transgression is that you thought that he had
Speaker 4: passed already was dancing.
Speaker 6: In the Hi Gary, You're actually incorrect. The senior facility
Speaker 6: that my mom is in, Incinitas for assisted living, they
Speaker 6: actually do allow the people to have dogs and cats. Unfortunately,
Speaker 6: memory care they don't because they probably wouldn't remember that
Speaker 6: they have him.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Okay, So speaking of memory care, and I forgot to
Speaker 1: tell Keana this the show that I'm watching with Ted
Speaker 1: Danson that you said, oh yeah, it was about him
Speaker 1: having figured it out. You thought you had figured it
Speaker 1: out right, But you said I didn't. You did not,
Speaker 1: at least at this point, you did not figure it out. Okay,
Speaker 1: you thought it was he is this guy who loses
Speaker 1: his wife and his kids get him to go to
Speaker 1: the care facility under the guise of he's helping to
Speaker 1: solve a crime, but it's really because he has dementia.
Speaker 1: He does not and he is helping to solve a crime.
Speaker 1: And it's really well done. It's very well written. The
Speaker 1: characters are great, and there is a lot of learning
Speaker 1: about these care facilities that I have gone on and
Speaker 1: the memory care wing and everything that comes with that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: And that I mean, there were a couple of people
Speaker 4: who said that they've been allowed to take pets in
Speaker 4: to facilities.
Speaker 9: I G.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's new to me. My mother or my grandmother
Speaker 3: was in a.
Speaker 2: That was a hundred years ago.
Speaker 3: That's also true that I love that.
Speaker 1: Story because it shows what a good person you are
Speaker 1: about you collecting the laundry.
Speaker 4: And doing the laundry too. Yeah, that's nice. It's not fun, no,
Speaker 4: but it builds character.
Speaker 5: Arry Shannon, A quick question on your opinion, since I
Speaker 5: value very much. Okay, when we talk about healthcare, is
Speaker 5: it a right or a responsibility.
Speaker 4: Interesting question because that's one of the questions that I
Speaker 4: came up with when I was reading this last night.
Speaker 3: You mentioned this yesterday.
Speaker 4: Social banditry is this theory that ru was written up
Speaker 4: in Politico as an explanation, perhaps for one of our
Speaker 4: for what's going on in this country. This moment, this
Speaker 4: grim divisive moment that we have in general in our country,
Speaker 4: exemplified perhaps mostly by politics, but does spread into other areas.
Speaker 1: It's all about the poor versus the rich. Right, you
Speaker 1: go on social media and you'll see it everywhere. As
Speaker 1: it pertains to this murder, people saying this needs to
Speaker 1: be the new norm. People writing in all caps eat
Speaker 1: the rich. Social banditry was a theory coined by a
Speaker 1: Marxist scholar in nineteen fifty nine, Eric hobbes Baum bomb.
Speaker 2: He belonged to.
Speaker 1: An intellectual tradition seeking to critique capitalism, as they wrote
Speaker 1: it up in Politico. He was interested primarily in investigating
Speaker 1: the relationship between peasant societies and revolutionary change, with a
Speaker 1: special focus on underground forms of resistance, i e. Robin Hood, Right,
Speaker 1: Pancho Villa, things like that. Jesse James Billy the kid
Speaker 1: and when you look at this killer and they zero
Speaker 1: in on the motive when it comes to the bullet casings.
Speaker 1: He concealed his face with a mask. He dropped that
Speaker 1: backpack in Central Park filled with monopoly money that he
Speaker 1: meant to spread over the body but forgot zips away
Speaker 1: on a bicycle. It's very reminiscent of those names that
Speaker 1: I just went through.
Speaker 3: There's a.
Speaker 4: Hobbsbaum's theory is that when people lose faith in the
Speaker 4: government's ability to address concerns and grievances, when the government
Speaker 4: can't do what it's supposed to do, then the.
Speaker 10: Hey, Gary and so I've had a couple of Alzheimer's
Speaker 10: patients at the hospital with these animatronic cats, and it's
Speaker 10: really very very sweet to see them together. The cats
Speaker 10: meow and per and the patient actually has something familiar
Speaker 10: that they can take care of, and it gives them
Speaker 10: a purpose.
Speaker 3: Interesting. It's honestly been.
Speaker 10: Really amazing for them. I wish we did more of
Speaker 10: that with people with Alzheimer's. It's just amazing.
Speaker 4: I will I may change my tune on that. I
Speaker 4: was kind of upset about the idea of.
Speaker 1: It, but yeah, but you haven't lived with someone like that, true,
Speaker 1: And I mean I like, like I said, yesterday, with
Speaker 1: my mother in law.
Speaker 2: The stuffed animals worked wonders with her.
Speaker 1: She even had this plastic squirrel that if you waved
Speaker 1: your hand in front of it, if there's motion, it
Speaker 1: would do a little squirrel sound. And she would take
Speaker 1: it with us to restaurants. Okay, And it was like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a kid. Yeah, you know, you
Speaker 1: give a kid a hot wheels car.
Speaker 3: Or something, maybe not to exactly.
Speaker 2: Calms him down. It's like an emotional support situation.
Speaker 4: That question, by the way, about the difference between responsibilities
Speaker 4: and rights when it comes to healthcare, I think is
Speaker 4: interesting and it's worth a longer discussion.
Speaker 3: But follow me here for a second.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if Luigi, if Luigi Mangioni has a chronic back problem, right,
Speaker 4: no fault of his own?
Speaker 3: Is spondo life thesis right?
Speaker 2: Doing homework?
Speaker 3: I have been told it to my daughter this morning.
Speaker 4: I showed up spondol like the that was then aggravated
Speaker 4: by this surfing accident or whatever, and it's no fault
Speaker 4: of his own. Does he have a responsibility to take
Speaker 4: care of himself? Or is it a right for him
Speaker 4: to receive medical care. I don't know if that's the
Speaker 4: right question to ask, because that's just this issue. In
Speaker 4: the event that someone doesn't give two rats butts about
Speaker 4: what they eat and ends up developing type two diabetes,
Speaker 4: do they have a right to very expensive treatments or
Speaker 4: did they have a responsibility to take care of themselves beforehand?
Speaker 2: I think the bigger question.
Speaker 1: You never hear about that person being denied healthcare and
Speaker 1: a document or being made about it. You never hear
Speaker 1: about the person who lived at McDonald's and Taco Bell
Speaker 1: and sweets shop being denied care.
Speaker 3: You hear about the people with.
Speaker 2: Cancer, yeah, being denied treatment.
Speaker 1: So you hear about people not getting the referral they
Speaker 1: need in time to the doctor that has the right treatment.
Speaker 1: You hear about the people that want to try a
Speaker 1: treatment that may not be signed off for to save
Speaker 1: their lives because the insurance company doesn't view it as viable.
Speaker 1: I mean, those are the stories that are way too common.
Speaker 4: But if the healthcare companies didn't have to spend as
Speaker 4: much money on things like type two diabetes, would they
Speaker 4: be able to.
Speaker 1: So they don't give a crap. It's not a budget problem.
Speaker 1: For them, it's a we want money and we're greedy
Speaker 1: a holes.
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