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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy who faked his own death the kayaker in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently he's back and he's in custody. He came back

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<v Speaker 1>on his own because of his family. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was the reason he left in the first same, same, same.

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<v Speaker 1>It must have been a different reason. Maybe he ran

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<v Speaker 1>out of fresh underwear or something. He was in Eastern Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd done it. He had faked his own death. He

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<v Speaker 1>was living his life, he was free of the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the heart wants what the heart, heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Wants, fresh underwear.

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<v Speaker 3>We will talk the latest.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up, we'll talk about the latest news we know

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<v Speaker 4>about Luigi Mangioni. Apparently officials now have the notebook that

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<v Speaker 4>detailed plans for the shooting and even included a logical

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<v Speaker 4>breakdown of water. He didn't want to blow up Brian

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<v Speaker 4>Thompson with a bomb and instead chose to shoot him

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<v Speaker 4>on the streets of Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Always torn between airing out the manifesto and the reasons why,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't want them to have oxygen. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I'm such a curious person of what

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<v Speaker 1>led to somebody acting like this, especially when they were

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<v Speaker 1>born on third base.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of weird events involving members of Congress. Congresswoman

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<v Speaker 4>Nancy Mace was allegedly assaulted at the Capitol by a

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<v Speaker 4>man who is now in custody. She shared on social

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<v Speaker 4>media that she was physically accosted by what she said

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<v Speaker 4>was a pro transman protesting the congresswoman's controversial comments on

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<v Speaker 4>transgender rights. And then also Marjorie Taylor Green announced that

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<v Speaker 4>a woman died in a car crash.

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<v Speaker 3>With a bomb squad.

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<v Speaker 4>The bomb squad was speeding to Marjorie Taylor Green's house

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<v Speaker 4>because of a false alarm an email threat of a

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<v Speaker 4>bomb inside her mailbox, and as the bomb squad was

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<v Speaker 4>racing to her house, they got into an accident with

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<v Speaker 4>this woman in Georgia, a woman named Tammy Pickle Seimer,

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<v Speaker 4>what a name, ended up being killed Pickle Seimer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so just very weird stories.

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<v Speaker 4>We got updates just a short time ago regarding the

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<v Speaker 4>Franklin fire burning over in Malibu.

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<v Speaker 5>As of this morning, the Franklin fire has burned approximately

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<v Speaker 5>three thousand, nine hundred and eighty three acres and is.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven percent contained.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a thirty nine percent increase in acreage overnight.

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<v Speaker 5>One five hundred and thirty two fire personnel are assigned

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<v Speaker 5>to the incident and crews are working tirelessly around the

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<v Speaker 5>clock to establish containment lines and defend structures.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven percent is a containment number I've never seen in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years of covering fires.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think what it is is, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 4>a it's an indication of how specific, how granular the

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<v Speaker 4>information can be now compared to what it was before.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, If if this had been ten years ago, he

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<v Speaker 4>would have he whoever it was, would have just said

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<v Speaker 4>a very general round number because it was easier. But

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<v Speaker 4>now they have very specific and detailed mapping that they

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<v Speaker 4>can get.

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<v Speaker 1>In other news, Dick van Dyke is still with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was dead, and how he has become

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<v Speaker 1>the face of the fire is kind of comical. He's

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight or ninety nine. He turns ninety nine this Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Dick van Dyke died like circa twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's just that he's slowed down a little bit,

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<v Speaker 4>but I see him show up in tabloids all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>a really huge table in the tabloids.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me read though, Well for him.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I've heard you mentioned that you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>him in the tabloids.

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<v Speaker 4>The tabloids stories about Dick van Dyke are from still alive.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not that he's having an affair, or he's fathered

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<v Speaker 4>a child out of wedlock or anything. It's that he's

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<v Speaker 4>still alive and goes shopping in Malibu every once in

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<v Speaker 4>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I so I read people every week, and I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen you have seen that Dick van Dyke mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>since the nineties.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to get a lot of play in the

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<v Speaker 4>next couple of days because they're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>his house. They're going to talk about what do you

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<v Speaker 4>do when you're ninety nine? That kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently I just checked on the tabloids. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>video of him singing and dancing in a Cold Play video.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, directed by Spike Jones. He sings, he dances barefoot, clicking.

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<v Speaker 3>While you do.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Dick van Dyke in what is he known for?

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me? The Dick Van Dyke Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe, Oh did you know. I'm sorry that, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it is before your time. I'll give you that Mary Poppins.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, is he the guy that was the dude in that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I never watched Mary Larry Poppins.

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<v Speaker 1>I never watched Mary Poppins.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he was in its whole series of probably

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<v Speaker 4>sitcoms and dramatic comedy mystery shows or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he was in the Carol Burnett Show and the

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<v Speaker 1>New Dick Van Dyke Show, which ran seventy one to

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four.

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<v Speaker 2>I will see this one out.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember him from Krol Barnette. He guest starred.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, so he shows up every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to the fire, just very quickly, Chief Anthony Maroney

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<v Speaker 4>in La County Fire.

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<v Speaker 5>Last night, fire activity increased significantly along the western edge

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<v Speaker 5>of the fire and began backing down into Corral Canyon,

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<v Speaker 5>threatening the Malibu RV Park community.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, back to Dick. Yeah, okay, so bye

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<v Speaker 1>bye Birdie. Chitty Chitty bang bang. These are all things

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<v Speaker 1>that my mother would be well versed in, not me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that that makes me young. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying that I am ignorant when it comes to Dick

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<v Speaker 1>van Dyke, and I will spend the day educating myself.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's ignorant.

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<v Speaker 4>That brings with it to sort of a connotation that

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you should have known everything about Dick van Dyke,

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<v Speaker 4>and I would not have expected that.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob and Keana, do you know who Dick van Dyke is?

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<v Speaker 3>I know the name, how Kenna's not in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know the name, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>But if I were to show you a picture of

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<v Speaker 4>six ninety eight year old men, would you be able

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<v Speaker 4>to pick him out of a lot of chass?

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<v Speaker 3>Dang?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, understandable, I got it, completely understandable. The

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<v Speaker 4>weather has fully cooperated with the firefighters when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to the Franklin fire. Now the official potentially dangerous situation

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<v Speaker 4>red flag warning is up for another hour or so.

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<v Speaker 4>Our normal red flag warning is up until six o'clock tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>So we are not out of out of danger, you're

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<v Speaker 4>just yet. But they have made some great progress in

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<v Speaker 4>the temperatures today overnight et cetera have helped them significantly.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick van Dyke just won an Emmy for a guest

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<v Speaker 1>performance on Days of Our Lives. Oldest person to win

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<v Speaker 1>a Daytime Emmy and the oldest to be nominated for

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<v Speaker 1>one Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of fire, there was also a fire up in

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<v Speaker 4>northern California destroyed one of the most famous homes up there,

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<v Speaker 4>the Bidwell Mansion. I lived about one hundred yards away

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<v Speaker 4>from the Bidwell Mansion in Chico. TV stations have been

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<v Speaker 4>reporting that this structure that's about one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 4>years old, caught fire at about three point thirty this

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<v Speaker 4>morning and looks like it's going to collapse at any moment.

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<v Speaker 4>It has been part of a state historical park for

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<v Speaker 4>a long time, and it's been under restoration since May.

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<v Speaker 4>But Bidwell Mansion in Chico looks like it's gone completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Van Dyke said of Donald Trump, I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>this scared since the Cuban missile crisis. Jacob, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what the Cuban missile crisis was?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? No, I know what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll show you six pictures of six international incidents in

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<v Speaker 4>the last hundred years. You think you could pick out

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<v Speaker 4>the human missile crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's the one with Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm going to close my Dick Van Dyke file. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>open your Luigi file. We'll talk about this big Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>Mangioni file. What it's a big file. We know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about this kid because he didn't shut up online.

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<v Speaker 4>And some of his roommates are talking too about what

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<v Speaker 4>they would do for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I haven't gotten into that that part.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the file.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of It shouldn't surprise you compared to what

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<v Speaker 4>we've especially since what we've talked about about this guy already.

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<v Speaker 1>But also going through somebody's book history and books they

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<v Speaker 1>want to read, books they have read. It's very personal

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<v Speaker 1>and intimate, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never thought of it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't either until I went into his whole good

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<v Speaker 1>Reads profile and I thought, Wow, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>like know this. It's just books to me are very personal, interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know everything.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to have to build an AI desk.

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<v Speaker 4>We did have a song at one point. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to find it again. Oh, is that really ominous? Like

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<v Speaker 4>the storm clouds are brutes. It's going to end the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do that. We'll play that for you because

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<v Speaker 1>we've got an AI story coming up in the next

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<v Speaker 1>hour about Ai a companion, an AI companion telling somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to kill their parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh nice, carry Chaney. Is it wrong that every time

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<v Speaker 3>he said Franklin fire, I think at the Peanuts and

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie Brown Christmas and the music. Okay, maybe I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>moral person, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't Franklin the name of the cat that the old

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<v Speaker 1>man had to give away? And then he named his

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<v Speaker 1>new cat Franklin the Robotic Cat?

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday?

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<v Speaker 3>That does sound right. I don't remember yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>So yesterday we talked about the Franklin fire a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and we also talked about old people that have fake pets.

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<v Speaker 3>Robotic pets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we never found out about the fate of

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin one, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Did it go? Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve kill shelter cat was twelve? Oh well, if the

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<v Speaker 4>cat was twelve, I think we kind of know what

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<v Speaker 4>happened to Franklin.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he had to give the cat away because the

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<v Speaker 1>senior center didn't allow pets, which I think is.

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<v Speaker 4>Give away the cat to God because God was like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's time for Franklin to come home.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, no, Franklin was alive and well when he

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<v Speaker 1>had to give the cat away.

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<v Speaker 2>And what kind of senior home doesn't allow pets?

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<v Speaker 3>Every senior home. Really, that's cruel.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a healthcare facility. I can't bring my dog to

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<v Speaker 4>the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you such a hardliner on this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a rule follower. You know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, you too, longtime listener?

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<v Speaker 6>And Shannon, have you not seen.

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<v Speaker 4>He played Cecil J. Fredericks. I don't remember that kids

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was like in my early twenties or something,

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<v Speaker 4>Three months after, she was blindsided by pictures of Don

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<v Speaker 4>the it girl in Palm Beach, whould we say it?

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<v Speaker 3>Good for her.

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<v Speaker 2>that's a night.

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<v Speaker 1>I would totally give up Don Junior for that ambassadorship.

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<v Speaker 2>Have not had him in the first No, I would not.

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<v Speaker 1>Have fingerprints found at the scene where the United Healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>story more than any that I can remember. Everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>evening that they don't have the evidence. There's a big

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<v Speaker 1>fight over his extradition. They weren't anticipating that, and why

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a conviction. And I know that's crazy to say,

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<v Speaker 1>can afford the best attorneys, sure. Number Two, that goes

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<v Speaker 2>Evidence like this.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't come out and say the fingerprints matched at

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<v Speaker 4>To that end, the defense attorney has been getting calls

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<v Speaker 4>from people offering to pay this guy's legal defense. This

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<v Speaker 3>We had seen.

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<v Speaker 9>Reports earlier that there was you know, people were inundating

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<v Speaker 3>Is that accurate?

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<v Speaker 9>I I have recent siege of emails.

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<v Speaker 7>I have not seen him personally, but my understanding from

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<v Speaker 9>The people are reaching out to you and offering to

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 4>So one of the former roommates of this guy that

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<v Speaker 4>his time in Hawaii. Remember that supposedly when he injured

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<v Speaker 4>or aggravated the injury that he had with his back

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<v Speaker 4>that caused most of the problems lately. R. J. Martin

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<v Speaker 4>is the roommate's name, said, one of the things they

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<v Speaker 4>used to do for fun read the Unibomber's Manifesto.

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<v Speaker 7>I actually proposed that we read. It's kind of half joke,

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<v Speaker 7>but read the manifesto.

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<v Speaker 3>Discussion debate around it.

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<v Speaker 7>Nothing that stood out at the time, No anger, no

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<v Speaker 7>a special affinity towards it, just you know, thought provoking discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>The Unibomber Manifesto hits differently now in twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he did have an expansive reading list, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of titles in there, like Thomas Hate

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<v Speaker 1>Book about disconnecting and the Anious, the Anxious Generation, and

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<v Speaker 1>the disconnecting from phones, and how social media is harmful

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<v Speaker 1>in all of those things. He also had a number

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<v Speaker 1>of self help books that he publicly liked. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I come from an era of if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>self help book, you don't advertise it, kind of hide

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But he One of the ones that's picking

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<v Speaker 1>Parents subtext how to heal from distant, rejecting or self

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<v Speaker 2>Couple things.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that this is getting a lot of traction

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<v Speaker 1>bothers me because blaming the parent, blaming your parents for

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<v Speaker 1>anything really is so freaking lazy to me, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, everyone's got their own stuff. Everyone grows

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<v Speaker 1>up with different stuff, but like, that's not the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why you do X, Y and Z as an adult.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is interesting because there were reports also of Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so we're still trying to narrow down the motive. The

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<v Speaker 4>guy obviously hated corporate health or whatever general term you

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<v Speaker 4>want to use, and whether it was this guy specifically

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<v Speaker 4>targeted an insurance company, or if he was targeting the

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<v Speaker 4>health care industry because he was in constant pain or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>The other issue that I saw yesterday was that his

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<v Speaker 4>pain as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So because he that could have made her distant, well.

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<v Speaker 4>It could have made her distant, but it could have

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<v Speaker 4>also been he blames them for her distance. They blamed

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<v Speaker 4>He blames the healthcare industry for not helping her caring

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<v Speaker 1>There's being upset about your parents' pain and what that

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's murder.

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<v Speaker 1>I still go back to the occam's raiser of this

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<v Speaker 1>break in their early twenties as a male like it

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<v Speaker 1>just it happens, unfortunately for some people.

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<v Speaker 3>And the age. Like you said, yeah, this is within

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<v Speaker 3>that window. A couple things.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll come back and talk about the issue of social banditry,

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<v Speaker 4>that theory that you talked about yesterday, but also wanted

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<v Speaker 4>posters have started showing up in New York City, wanted

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<v Speaker 4>posters that feature pictures of other healthcare corporate leaders on

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<v Speaker 4>traffic control boxes throughout Manhattan. So there's a picture of

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Thompson, but it's got red X through it. There's

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<v Speaker 4>pictures of optim Health CEO, the United Health Group CEO's

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<v Speaker 4>still not clear who put the pictures up, but the

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<v Speaker 4>Franklin Fire continues to burn in the health above Malibu.

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<v Speaker 4>The update from this morning is that at least seven

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<v Speaker 4>could rise as they do more complete assessments. So far,

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<v Speaker 4>the Franklin fire is just under four thousand acres, about

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<v Speaker 4>seven percent contained. The potentially dangerous red flag warning is

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to expire at ten this morning. The normal red

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of these. We got to get through some

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<v Speaker 3>of these because I got Good morning, Gary and Shannon.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Ray from Mersido.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's not forget about Jerry van Dyke, who passed away

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<v Speaker 5>a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't forget there's a Barry van Dyke. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the family's all in entertainment. When we're another miss Jerry

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<v Speaker 3>van Dyke. He was funny on coach. Anyway, have a

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<v Speaker 3>nice day. He was great on coach. That was a

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<v Speaker 3>good show. That was a fun show.

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<v Speaker 8>Shannon, we're going to accept your ignorance on Dick Van Dyke.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't even believe you said such a thing. I

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<v Speaker 8>know I am younger than you, and I know everything

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<v Speaker 8>almost that he's been in. I literally was just seeing

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<v Speaker 2>Could you not know who.

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<v Speaker 10>Magan?

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<v Speaker 3>We're just going to accept your ignorance.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you, thank you, You guys from Reno Valley have

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<v Speaker 8>a great day.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that name.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great name. I I knew it. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to anger people, and I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>who Dick? I remember him being on like Niket night,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just not my it was not my my.

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<v Speaker 4>The biggest transgression is that you thought that he had

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<v Speaker 4>passed already was dancing.

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<v Speaker 6>In the Hi Gary, You're actually incorrect. The senior facility

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<v Speaker 6>that my mom is in, Incinitas for assisted living, they

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<v Speaker 6>actually do allow the people to have dogs and cats. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>memory care they don't because they probably wouldn't remember that

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<v Speaker 6>they have him.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So speaking of memory care, and I forgot to

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<v Speaker 1>tell Keana this the show that I'm watching with Ted

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<v Speaker 1>Danson that you said, oh yeah, it was about him

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<v Speaker 1>having figured it out. You thought you had figured it

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<v Speaker 1>out right, But you said I didn't. You did not,

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<v Speaker 1>at least at this point, you did not figure it out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you thought it was he is this guy who loses

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<v Speaker 1>his wife and his kids get him to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the care facility under the guise of he's helping to

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<v Speaker 1>solve a crime, but it's really because he has dementia.

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<v Speaker 1>He does not and he is helping to solve a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really well done. It's very well written. The

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<v Speaker 1>characters are great, and there is a lot of learning

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<v Speaker 1>about these care facilities that I have gone on and

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<v Speaker 1>the memory care wing and everything that comes with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>And that I mean, there were a couple of people

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's new to me. My mother or my grandmother

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<v Speaker 2>That was a hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>That's also true that I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Story because it shows what a good person you are

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<v Speaker 1>about you collecting the laundry.

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<v Speaker 4>And doing the laundry too. Yeah, that's nice. It's not fun, no,

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<v Speaker 4>but it builds character.

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<v Speaker 5>Arry Shannon, A quick question on your opinion, since I

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting question because that's one of the questions that I

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Social banditry is this theory that ru was written up

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<v Speaker 4>in Politico as an explanation, perhaps for one of our

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<v Speaker 4>for what's going on in this country. This moment, this

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<v Speaker 4>grim divisive moment that we have in general in our country,

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<v Speaker 4>exemplified perhaps mostly by politics, but does spread into other areas.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about the poor versus the rich. Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>go on social media and you'll see it everywhere. As

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<v Speaker 1>it pertains to this murder, people saying this needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be the new norm. People writing in all caps eat

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<v Speaker 1>the rich. Social banditry was a theory coined by a

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<v Speaker 1>Marxist scholar in nineteen fifty nine, Eric hobbes Baum bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>He belonged to.

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<v Speaker 1>An intellectual tradition seeking to critique capitalism, as they wrote

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<v Speaker 1>it up in Politico. He was interested primarily in investigating

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship between peasant societies and revolutionary change, with a

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<v Speaker 1>special focus on underground forms of resistance, i e. Robin Hood, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Pancho Villa, things like that. Jesse James Billy the kid

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<v Speaker 1>and when you look at this killer and they zero

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<v Speaker 1>in on the motive when it comes to the bullet casings.

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<v Speaker 1>He concealed his face with a mask. He dropped that

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<v Speaker 1>backpack in Central Park filled with monopoly money that he

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<v Speaker 1>meant to spread over the body but forgot zips away

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<v Speaker 1>on a bicycle. It's very reminiscent of those names that

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<v Speaker 1>I just went through.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Hobbsbaum's theory is that when people lose faith in the

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<v Speaker 4>government's ability to address concerns and grievances, when the government

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<v Speaker 4>can't do what it's supposed to do, then the.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, Gary and so I've had a couple of Alzheimer's

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<v Speaker 10>patients at the hospital with these animatronic cats, and it's

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<v Speaker 10>really very very sweet to see them together. The cats

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<v Speaker 10>meow and per and the patient actually has something familiar

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<v Speaker 10>that they can take care of, and it gives them

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<v Speaker 10>a purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting. It's honestly been.

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<v Speaker 10>Really amazing for them. I wish we did more of

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<v Speaker 10>that with people with Alzheimer's. It's just amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I will I may change my tune on that. I

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<v Speaker 4>was kind of upset about the idea of.

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<v Speaker 1>It, but yeah, but you haven't lived with someone like that, true,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I like, like I said, yesterday, with

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<v Speaker 1>my mother in law.

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<v Speaker 2>The stuffed animals worked wonders with her.

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<v Speaker 1>She even had this plastic squirrel that if you waved

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<v Speaker 1>your hand in front of it, if there's motion, it

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<v Speaker 1>would do a little squirrel sound. And she would take

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<v Speaker 1>it with us to restaurants. Okay, And it was like, okay, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like a kid. Yeah, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>give a kid a hot wheels car.

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<v Speaker 3>Or something, maybe not to exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Calms him down. It's like an emotional support situation.

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<v Speaker 4>That question, by the way, about the difference between responsibilities

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<v Speaker 4>and rights when it comes to healthcare, I think is

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<v Speaker 4>interesting and it's worth a longer discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>But follow me here for a second.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if Luigi, if Luigi Mangioni has a chronic back problem, right,

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<v Speaker 4>no fault of his own?

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<v Speaker 3>Is spondo life thesis right?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing homework?

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<v Speaker 3>I have been told it to my daughter this morning.

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<v Speaker 4>I showed up spondol like the that was then aggravated

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<v Speaker 4>by this surfing accident or whatever, and it's no fault

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<v Speaker 4>of his own. Does he have a responsibility to take

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<v Speaker 4>care of himself? Or is it a right for him

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<v Speaker 4>to receive medical care. I don't know if that's the

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<v Speaker 4>right question to ask, because that's just this issue. In

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<v Speaker 4>the event that someone doesn't give two rats butts about

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<v Speaker 4>what they eat and ends up developing type two diabetes,

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<v Speaker 4>do they have a right to very expensive treatments or

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<v Speaker 4>did they have a responsibility to take care of themselves beforehand?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the bigger question.

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<v Speaker 1>You never hear about that person being denied healthcare and

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<v Speaker 1>a document or being made about it. You never hear

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<v Speaker 1>about the person who lived at McDonald's and Taco Bell

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<v Speaker 1>and sweets shop being denied care.

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<v Speaker 3>You hear about the people with.

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<v Speaker 2>Cancer, yeah, being denied treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>So you hear about people not getting the referral they

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<v Speaker 1>need in time to the doctor that has the right treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear about the people that want to try a

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<v Speaker 1>treatment that may not be signed off for to save

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<v Speaker 1>their lives because the insurance company doesn't view it as viable.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those are the stories that are way too common.

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<v Speaker 4>But if the healthcare companies didn't have to spend as

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<v Speaker 4>much money on things like type two diabetes, would they

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<v Speaker 4>be able to.

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<v Speaker 1>So they don't give a crap. It's not a budget problem.

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<v Speaker 1>For them, it's a we want money and we're greedy

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<v Speaker 1>a holes.

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