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<v Speaker 1>It's Maria's MUDs and Stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great idea on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Maria Mutts and Stuff. And with me is

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Hill, who is part of the Wild Animal Sanctuary

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado. So, Austin, I first became aware as I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote to you of the sanctuary on the sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>piece from a few weeks back, which you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just found it to be like so pretty incredible. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course I started to do some homework and

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<v Speaker 1>went to your website and learned all about you. So

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<v Speaker 1>tell me how did the sanctuary all begin? Like how

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<v Speaker 1>many years ago and how did it all start?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the sanctuary started with our founder and executive director,

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Craig, who was also on the excuse me it

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<v Speaker 2>was on the sixty minute special quite a bit as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So Sanctury started with Pat forty four years ago, going

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<v Speaker 2>on almost forty five in January of nineteen eighty. So

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<v Speaker 2>long story short basically is that you know, Pat kind

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<v Speaker 2>of learned through visiting a zoo on the East Coast

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<v Speaker 2>where a friend of his was working, that there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of animals. He learned of kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>zoos surplus situation. And not every single zoo in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>but many of the zoos had a surplus of animals,

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<v Speaker 2>and they really were also trying to capitalize on having

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<v Speaker 2>babies there not as much for conservation. And every zoo

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit different. But the zoo he visited

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<v Speaker 2>had animals that were kind of anguishing behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>that were perfectly healthy, and they were younger, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of tuck back behind the scenes, and that

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<v Speaker 2>he found out that sometimes they would trade and sell,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would there's all these kind of crazy as

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<v Speaker 2>they call it, dot dot dots are happy with the animals,

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<v Speaker 2>and he just was like it just kind of planted

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<v Speaker 2>the scene in his mind. You know, he was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>young at the time of what where do carnivores go?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we know where dogs and casca. Where do

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<v Speaker 2>carnivores go? Who could place them? And he basically, long

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<v Speaker 2>story short, got his family farm of twenty acres in Boulder, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>got everything licensed up with the USCA and fixed up

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<v Speaker 2>and risk of the first animal he was nineteen, he

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<v Speaker 2>had just turned nineteen eighteen eighty. He was a young

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<v Speaker 2>jaguar named Freckles who had to be twenty four. The

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<v Speaker 2>amazing age and that's kind of what started, and in

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<v Speaker 2>doing so, created the first carnivore sanctuary and now we're

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<v Speaker 2>the oldest and largest in.

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<v Speaker 1>The world, which is phenomenal. I mean, it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>incredible that it started. You know, he was like a

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<v Speaker 1>child almost not that of nineteen as a child, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, like he was a kid

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<v Speaker 1>starting it nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, me, it pretty much is. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anyone that was doing anything quite that noble

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<v Speaker 2>at eighteen and nineteen is Oh my.

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<v Speaker 1>God, that's perfect. That's exactly right. Anything that noble, You're

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right, You're absolutely right. And seeing Pat and his

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<v Speaker 1>wife Monica on the sixty minutes piece, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>could see it's their passion. It's like it's in their

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<v Speaker 1>DNA and they're just I just found it so incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know you have there are four facilities, is

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<v Speaker 1>that correct, Three in Colorado, one in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yes, Now we're at four and most are in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so we just opened our newest one, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the Wild Horse Refuge up in Craig, Colorado, northwest

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<v Speaker 2>call it's a bit different than the other ones, and

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<v Speaker 2>the lions and bears and so on, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>basically an answer for all of them, well, many of

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<v Speaker 2>the Sandwash base in Colorado's wild wild born mustangs. I

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<v Speaker 2>got rounded up and go to auction and again face

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<v Speaker 2>a dot dot situation. So we had supporters that reached

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<v Speaker 2>out and want us to see what we can do

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of help with that, and then that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of snowballed into finding their own chunk of lands. So

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<v Speaker 2>we just secured it last year of twenty three thousand

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<v Speaker 2>acres thirty minutes from when they got rounded up in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place. So it's like they went right back home. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty much unbelievable. There's just under one hundred and know,

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<v Speaker 2>about one hundred and sixty horses roaming. They're free and

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<v Speaker 2>we have a few more to go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible. That's really incredible. Congratulations, really thank you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true. I mean I can tell well, I can

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<v Speaker 1>also tell that you're very humble about it, modest too,

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<v Speaker 1>But for those of us who are like hear about

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<v Speaker 1>it or see it, it's just it's pretty incredible that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like it takes a village and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are that village.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would like to think. I mean, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is, you know, there's always folks willing to

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<v Speaker 2>do the work and waiting to figure it out. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's a quote from Pat, you know, but it does

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<v Speaker 2>take everyone. It does take everybody. You know, so much

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<v Speaker 2>of what we're doing now is is you know, things

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<v Speaker 2>so much what we talked about in terms of new

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<v Speaker 2>facilities and this and this wasn't there even just ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. A lot of it wasn't there even five

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. So there's so much and that just takes

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<v Speaker 2>I think the amount of people that believe in this place,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a global village. And I mean Pat definitely

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<v Speaker 2>led that charge. I mean he's the man that started everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it always takes We've seen rescues that

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<v Speaker 2>just started with somebody that got a petition started and

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<v Speaker 2>look what happened. So I think, yes, it's a village.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bit of both. It's a village and it's

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<v Speaker 2>also take someone to kind of step up and say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. The way I look at it is I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's I think we all are innately good and

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<v Speaker 2>I think if we see something it doesn't look right,

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<v Speaker 2>we all go, well, somebody will do something. Somebody will, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But the problem is if if a thousand people think that,

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<v Speaker 2>then that's a thousand people that that didn't get didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do something correct. One person said I'm gonna do something

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<v Speaker 2>about that, and then there's then people get behind that person.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, that's true. It's actually I mean, just to

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<v Speaker 1>go off on a tangent. It's like what they tell

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<v Speaker 1>you to do. If there's an emergency that you walk into,

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<v Speaker 1>most people think, oh that person, someone will call nine

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<v Speaker 1>one one. But the thing to do is to take

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<v Speaker 1>charge of it. So it's like Pat took charge of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like they say, you point to people, you

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<v Speaker 1>call nine one one, you go get some help, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you assign people. So how many how how large is

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<v Speaker 1>your staff? I'm assuming it's very large.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as big as you may think. Really, we only

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<v Speaker 2>really have one facility that's open to the public, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the one that I'm at right now. They're all

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<v Speaker 2>open to visitors and supporters in different ways, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is the only one where I'm at in Keensburg, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>that's open to the public every day of the week

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<v Speaker 2>set nine am the sunset. But across the board, total

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I'm probably get the number wrong, but

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<v Speaker 2>four facilities ninety five, see.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that that's a small number. Seriously, with four facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking like, you know, hundreds of hundreds, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what you think. So that's pretty incredible. Ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, under one hundred volunteers. Yeah, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably some giver or take there. But in our

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<v Speaker 2>volunteers out number us, I think almost two to one.

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<v Speaker 2>They're absolutely miracle workers. We can't do it, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>any nonprofit can't do it volunteers, but we we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just our food alone and have food coming in when

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<v Speaker 2>the barriers red of hibernations will everyone's awake and the

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<v Speaker 2>tummies are ready to go. We go through one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand pounds of food per week. Wow. And our and

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<v Speaker 2>our and our and our volunteers and the staff of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but our volunteers are just absolutely critical to help with get

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<v Speaker 2>all that food ready for the animal's mouths feeding them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, it's it's just you need a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hands to kind of make the whole machine work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's just huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, Yeah, for sure. So I mean when I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching the sixty Minutes not to keep going back

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<v Speaker 1>to that, but the animals that were rescued in Perto Rico,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just it's it was heartbreaking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to see now the neglect that these poor animals, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that they were just left behind, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Pat and Monica came and rescued all of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was fascinating to watch how they got these wild animals,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, into their cages or even you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>elephant on a plane. That was incredible. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>for like say, for you, it's just another day, another

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<v Speaker 1>day of running the sanctuary.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, and no, that one was was just huge

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why sixty Minutes was present for that one

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<v Speaker 2>was I think it's safe to say the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 2>we ever bit of part of it. We've been part

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<v Speaker 2>of the massive, massive rescues. That was a whole other balla.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was historic in terms of rescues and

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<v Speaker 2>something that large, and I think, uh, yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 2>that was a definitive bookmark moment. And I think in

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<v Speaker 2>our history that we will, all of us here will

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<v Speaker 2>just reflect to well, when Puerto Rico happened, like we know,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what that means. There's a there's those two

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<v Speaker 2>words have a lot behind it, yeah, and just the

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<v Speaker 2>amount and then and then the sanctuary was supporting it

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<v Speaker 2>financially and doing the work. And I mean, of course

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<v Speaker 2>with the consortium of you know, rescue groups out there

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<v Speaker 2>helping and being on hand physically and stuff to help

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<v Speaker 2>get the animals out of there. But it was again,

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<v Speaker 2>it was Pat Lee in the charge. I remember one

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<v Speaker 2>day calling him for something and he and Monica had

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<v Speaker 2>just got out of cleaning the hippo pool, or we

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<v Speaker 2>just got out of it, which, as you can imagine

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<v Speaker 2>a hippo pool on any given day, right on one

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<v Speaker 2>that had been not cleaned in a minute, was probably

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<v Speaker 2>pretty rough. And it was like a record breaking hot spring.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean that was just that I have to

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<v Speaker 2>call one moment, you know, And I just I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to him numerous times because he was still so present

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<v Speaker 2>with us over here. But I mean, just again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great testament to just how hard to all, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our staff works for the animals and get him out

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<v Speaker 2>of there, you know, s A S.

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<v Speaker 1>A P sure how dedicated everybody is so uh do you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think that you go after looking

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<v Speaker 1>for this. I feel like people get in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>you at the sanctuary and say, hey, we have a situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that how it works?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean yeah, we don't have to go

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<v Speaker 2>look and so is contacted. And the rescue world kind

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<v Speaker 2>of falls into two categories. There is your group, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your official entities, and also your animal afficacy agencies who

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<v Speaker 2>are saying, hey, we're gonna we're going to campaign to

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<v Speaker 2>get animal freed. If we have to use you know,

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<v Speaker 2>legislature or law to do that, we're going to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's you know, confiscations with U SEA and local law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it. So there's some way that gets the animal,

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<v Speaker 2>that helps get the animal rescued. And then we're part two.

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<v Speaker 2>We're almost kind of kind of funny to think of

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<v Speaker 1>and Tiger King. So you are part of rescuing those

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<v Speaker 2>We rescued about one hundred and forty eight animals while

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<v Speaker 2>mistaken from different players in the show, including thirty nine tigers.

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<v Speaker 2>We rescued three years before the show ever came out.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a been the happy ending of sorts for

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, for sure. Did it ever and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>this is a no, but was there ever a situation

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<v Speaker 2>the carnivores. So Colorado's not a good home for half

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<v Speaker 2>no to fifty five zero percent of rescues just because

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost ten thousand acres. So that's a wild animal refuge,

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<v Speaker 2>it depends on the situation. But the nos definitely happened

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And as you said before, of the facilities, there

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<v Speaker 2>One, Yeah, yeah, Keensburg, Colorado. We're just about gosh, forty

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, definitely check out Wild Animals Sanctuary dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>Go under visit us. You know, we're on an elevated

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely come in the morning. We open or shot ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>about three hours to come more in the evening. But

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<v Speaker 2>welcome center, you know, can house folks comfortably, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>before and after their visits. And I think we're closed

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<v Speaker 2>but we're so outdoors. But otherwise, yeah, I mean even

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<v Speaker 2>So the big reason what we did was education for

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<v Speaker 2>people to learn about your thousands of animals. They're existing

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the zoos system, exactly what tier King talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's shown such a giant spotlight on the exact thing

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<v Speaker 2>and so well, you know, the walk with a vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>and thriving now and learn about why they're here and

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, for sure. And you survive on donations.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yeah, we're five one c three nonprofit. So every

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<v Speaker 2>single thing people saw in sixteen minutes from them when

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<v Speaker 2>they visit or on our website or social media or

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So for my listeners, and I know because there's

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<v Speaker 1>always you know, the call to action, because I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>feedback on you know, on the interviews and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how can we help? Well, you can go Wild Animals

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<v Speaker 1>Sanctuary dot org, plan a trip to visit, or make

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<v Speaker 1>a donation. And I'm sure, and I know there's on

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<v Speaker 1>your your Website's amazing because there's so many bits of

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I think this is so fascinating. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>happy that you you know, I reached out to you

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<v Speaker 1>and you reach back because I just you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>whole crew, all little ninety five of you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, thank you. I was going to say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is next for you guys, but it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean, yeah, I mean there is so much

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<v Speaker 2>By the time this airs, I'm not sure, but we

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<v Speaker 2>August third, and it's going to be a string quartete

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<v Speaker 2>laying to some kind of fun movie score kind of music.

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<v Speaker 2>Out here at the Sanctuary is kind of a fundraiser concert.

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<v Speaker 2>We call it sun call it Sunset Serenade, And who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a full gambit of things. The rescues, you

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<v Speaker 2>navigating all this darn heat, making sure folks know to

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<v Speaker 2>few hours of the night to enjoy the cooler weather.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, we just can't thank everyone enough for the

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<v Speaker 2>support learning about us. And we just put oh, we know,

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<v Speaker 2>we just put out our new newsletters, so people can

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<v Speaker 2>sign up for that if they like you. We do

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<v Speaker 2>seasonal quarterly newsletters. We just put out the summer edition,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I think our biggest issue yet. We did

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<v Speaker 2>kind of retrospective on the last few years of rescues,

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<v Speaker 2>and people can look that up online or we'll reach

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I mean, and we're very we're still you know,

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly transparent. We're here for you know, we don't exist

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<v Speaker 2>without people, so we're here for the animals. We've don't

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<v Speaker 2>insisted out people, so we always recommend folks to email

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Wild Animalsanctuary dot org. And you said this

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<v Speaker 1>will be your first concert. You see this will become

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<v Speaker 2>Goodness, I think it'd be wonderful. Yeah, sounds wonderful. We're

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<v Speaker 2>all extremely excited for of course it's always prepped.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it's a lot of work, but.

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<v Speaker 2>We're so excited. U it's I can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 2>how it goes. But you know, we've hosted, we've had concerence,

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<v Speaker 2>you know everyone, so on the past. It's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different. We never had one like this, never did

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<v Speaker 2>the sunset thing, and yeah, we're boy, we're lighting it

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<v Speaker 2>I think it could become a regular thing and I

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<v Speaker 1>Too, I'm sure. Well, good luck with that in Austin Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for taking the time out. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're busy, I know you know you're you're Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're busy. And the fact that you took time out

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Wild Animal Sanctuary. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>And for my listeners again, please learn more, make a donation,

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<v Speaker 1>sign up for the newsletter, or even go visit and

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<v Speaker 1>it's Wild Animal Sanctuary dot org. So thank you again.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate this.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Maria, you're the best. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for being an animal ambassador as we call it, and

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<v Speaker 2>speak on behalf of those the voice lists right, they

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<v Speaker 2>need our voices. And again, people, people have the website

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<v Speaker 2>and there's also our email addresses information at Wild Animal

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<v Speaker 2>Sanctuary dot org or my name Austin at Wild Animalcancry

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<v Speaker 2>dot org. Feel free to email us if we can

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<v Speaker 2>help you with anything. But thank you again so much

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<v Speaker 2>for having us. And you're in your in your house

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<v Speaker 2>and your ears wherever you're listening today, and thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for thinking of the animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, thank you