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<v Speaker 1>This is doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Appf I Am six forty. You have Doctor Wendy Walsh

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<v Speaker 2>with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. Kaylew

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<v Speaker 2>you laugh at me.

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<v Speaker 3>I love when you have high energy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting energy.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me so happy because I was feeling a

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<v Speaker 1>little tired. You know what I did today, what I

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<v Speaker 1>got a new car. I got a Honda Prologue.

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<v Speaker 3>Prologue. That's an exhausting process. Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. Okay, this is an industry we need to

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<v Speaker 1>change everybody. I know that Carvana and CarMax and all

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<v Speaker 1>these things say they're doing it, but no, you still

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<v Speaker 1>have to go sit in a dealership and negotiate for hours.

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<v Speaker 1>But luckily my husband used to work in the car industry,

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<v Speaker 1>so he could look at all those tiny little numbers

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<v Speaker 1>that they put on that contract and hide the things in.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I'm very excited. I have been an early

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<v Speaker 1>adopter of electric cars. I had a smart car, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a Fea Electric. Of course, I have my Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>for many years and now the Honda prologue because they

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<v Speaker 1>have a really great By the way, they pay me

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to say is I'm not even a brand person.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if Honda is good, bad or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's some kind of rebate thing that's huge that's

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<v Speaker 1>on by the end of the year. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we quickly did it, and how we found the cars.

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<v Speaker 1>We drove in it as an ober to a Christmas party.

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<v Speaker 1>We drove into it. I mean we were the passengers

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<v Speaker 1>and we said, the guys, this is a brand new car,

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, it's a couple of weeks old.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, what is it, Like, how many miles

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<v Speaker 2>does it get?

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah blah and the next thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm going to go buy one tomorrow. And

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, I happen to sell them, come visit me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I did.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was all good. Hey, there's a new study out.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk well, before I get into this,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say what's coming up. I am later

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<v Speaker 1>in the show going to join the rest of America

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<v Speaker 1>and become an armchair psychologist in diagnosing armand Luigi you

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<v Speaker 1>know who I'm talking about, right, Kayla, Oh yeah, mister

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<v Speaker 1>eyebrows and abs.

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<v Speaker 4>Eyebrows and abs, and the one that everybody has an

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<v Speaker 4>alibi for everyone in the social media world to say

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<v Speaker 4>that he was with them in bed that night, so

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<v Speaker 4>he couldn't have committed the crime.

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<v Speaker 2>So girls are fangirling.

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<v Speaker 1>I predict that the trial of Luigi Maggioni Mangioni, I

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<v Speaker 1>say that right is going to be another big, huge

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<v Speaker 1>media circus. Everyone's gonna watch it. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>an indictment on the healthcare industry. I mean, my heart

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<v Speaker 1>goes out, and I'm very sad for Brian Thompson who

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<v Speaker 1>was brutally murdered by this assassin.

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<v Speaker 2>But alleged assassion. Alleged assassins.

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<v Speaker 1>We're supposed to say everybody's innocent in America until proven guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how many cameras are on them and how

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<v Speaker 1>much footage there is.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey could have been fake news.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on, I'm gonna do my best, but I first

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to single people. You know, almost fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent about forty seven percent of Americans, according to the

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<v Speaker 1>latest US Census Borost Census Bureau data, are single. That's

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<v Speaker 1>almost one hundred and twenty million people who are unmarried,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly half of all adults over the age of eighteen. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you hear those stats, right, don't you go, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, what's wrong with America? Because back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty is like eighty five percent of people were married. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you assume that being married is the right thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Or why do you assume that people who are unmarried

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<v Speaker 1>are not in relationships?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>They could be in same sex relationships and have chosen

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<v Speaker 1>not to be married. They could be in heterosexual cohabitating

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<v Speaker 1>relationships and chosen not to be married. Maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the old institution of marriage that they don't want, right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a new survey that came out to help

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<v Speaker 1>American singles find love by wallet hub, a financial website

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<v Speaker 1>wallet Hub. They compared more than one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>US cities across thirty five key indicators of get this

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<v Speaker 1>dating friendliness, and their data ranges from you know how

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<v Speaker 1>many people in the population are single, to the kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of dating opportunities to the average price for a two

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<v Speaker 1>person meal. All right, so they came up with the

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<v Speaker 1>top cities to date, the top cities to be single,

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<v Speaker 1>in Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one. Are you ready, Kayla, I'm writing it down. Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently it's affordable, there's lots to do, and there's lots

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<v Speaker 1>of single people, okay. And they also looked at gender

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<v Speaker 1>breakdown too, because if you have too many of one

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<v Speaker 1>gender or one sex, then that's an imbalance and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make dating fun. So it looked at Georgia number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two is shocking to me. Las Vegas, Nevada.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I know the city of sin.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's like a well, I guess single people

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<v Speaker 1>party city.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know, could it be?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Number three is interesting to me because I think of

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<v Speaker 1>this city as a family city. Seattle, Washington, Okay, swinging

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<v Speaker 1>singles running around there, But apparently they are and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always raining there, so it's nice to snuggle up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna like this one because it's in your home

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that is close to home.

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<v Speaker 1>You're New Jersey, I am, but as you explained to me,

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew nothing about New Jersey until I met Kayla.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to that, I knew about Jersey Shore, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also knew that whenever two people from New Jersey met

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<v Speaker 1>each other, the first thing they'd say is what exit, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only one road?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there's one road.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you north or south? That's what people care about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I also learned because I always thought New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>was a suburb of New York City where people commuted in,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently part of it is, but not Mike Kayla's area.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Kayla if she was going to commute somewhere obe

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<v Speaker 1>to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, right or.

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia or Philadelphia?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but oh Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>I got those two p words.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss problem with me. Okay, moving on down the list

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<v Speaker 1>for happy singles. The other place to go flirt and

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<v Speaker 1>have fun is Tampa, Florida. Tampa, Okay, not even Orlando. Tampa, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it on the Gulf coast with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>like snowbirds from Chicago or something who don't go to Miami?

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<v Speaker 2>Is a Tampa.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been to Tampa, but I might as well

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<v Speaker 4>check it out now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, another one which is a great city.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent a weekend there recently, had a fabulous time

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<v Speaker 1>as Portland, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, lots to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, lots of great food, lots of art, it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Cincinnati, Ohio. Now I want to dispute something

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<v Speaker 1>from this study done by wallet hub. Just because a

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<v Speaker 1>city has lots of single people in it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that it is a place you will find love. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>while divorce is contagious, marriage is also contagious, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be married, you should hang out with

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<v Speaker 1>mary people because you know what married people want to

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<v Speaker 1>do with their single friends. They want to get them

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<v Speaker 1>married to somebody. They don't want them hanging out. So

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think this is just my guess that you

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<v Speaker 1>would do better as a single person if you hung

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<v Speaker 1>out with married people in cities where there's lots of

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<v Speaker 1>marriage going on. But if it's a city that's full

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<v Speaker 1>of single people, where there's a lot of single people

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<v Speaker 1>on nightlife and fun, why are you going to get married?

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like fun, Like why leave that single life?

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<v Speaker 1>They did look at also gender balance among singles, So

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<v Speaker 1>they looked at the cities it was great to be

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<v Speaker 1>single in, but then they looked at the ones where

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<v Speaker 1>the closest equal amount of males and females, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about heterosexual relationships, I guess. In their study Kayla,

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<v Speaker 1>you are not going to believe I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the top five, and I'm going to go backwards

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<v Speaker 1>because when we get to number one, you are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to believe it. Okay, these are cities that have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of singles and about the same amount of

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<v Speaker 1>male and female singles. You ready, yes, okay. Cheyenne, Wyoming

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<v Speaker 1>is number five.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I never even heard of it till just now,

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<v Speaker 4>right now. Oh, he talks beautiful?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it beautiful?

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<v Speaker 2>Is so beautiful? It's too expensive?

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<v Speaker 3>Too expensive?

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<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln, Nebraska is number four. I know, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, wait for it. Number three Fontana, California. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know where Fontana is?

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<v Speaker 2>That's out there in the Inland Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>You just keep going out the sixty or the tanner

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I had heard I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is true, but I had heard that Fontana has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of firefighters, nurses, and police officers.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like firefighters.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two is Boise, Idaho. Okay, now wait, get this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the city in America with the closest gender balance,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning equal number of males and females in the single marketplace.

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<v Speaker 1>Nino California also out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I gotta get to the ie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta literally get on that freeway go out

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<v Speaker 1>to the sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So this week, speaking of all you singles out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I was at a I don't know what you would

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<v Speaker 1>call it. It was a luncheon. It had like seven women.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all elegant, and they came from different walks

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<v Speaker 1>of life because we were brought together for a purpose

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<v Speaker 1>planning for twenty twenty five, and a number of them

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<v Speaker 1>were single. A number of them were in their forties

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<v Speaker 1>or fifties, and they were asking me about the science

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<v Speaker 1>of love and how to find a mate, and very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly I was able to do a quick summary of

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<v Speaker 1>what they should do. And then I thought, uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>should tell my listeners this because here I just did

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<v Speaker 1>it at lunch for these women, and they're like, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to tell the world this. I'm like, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it on Sunday. So when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are single, if you are looking for a mate,

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<v Speaker 1>listen U because I'm gonna tell you how to do

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<v Speaker 1>it when we come back. You are listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Wendy Wall Show. Okay, if I Am six forty

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<v Speaker 1>were live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app.

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome my TikTok audience. I don't know how long we're

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<v Speaker 3>Kayla, till January nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>January nineteenth. TikTok is like going to disappear.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, you guys better come over to Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. It's gonna just go away, that's what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be interesting, won't it. Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tuning in your live in the iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>studios in Burbank, California, I'm doctor Wendy Walsh, known as

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<v Speaker 1>America's relationship Expert. If you're a listener to KFI, just

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<v Speaker 1>come on over to TikTok and you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, no matter what your age, want to remind

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<v Speaker 1>in their life now. I know. Every once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while I get a talk about Live where some listener

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<v Speaker 1>calls in and says, I've been with my spouse for

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<v Speaker 1>What is typical is to have a stint of monogamy,

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<v Speaker 2>Because we just have longer.

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to find your soulmate in your twenties and

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<v Speaker 1>failed relationship. Hate that word. There's no such thing as

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<v Speaker 1>a failed relationship. There's only a relationship that you'll learn

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<v Speaker 1>something and relationships are not about luck, they are about skill. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're looking for love in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>there are few things you need to know when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the science of love. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>me long enough. There are biological, psychological, and sociological pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of the art and craft and science of love. Number One,

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<v Speaker 1>understand your mating marketplace. In the last segment, I was

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<v Speaker 1>right now, in our modern Western culture, we have an

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<v Speaker 1>oversupply of successful women. Now, the problem, it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>there are fewer men. There are fewer men that these

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<v Speaker 1>highly educated and money earning women want to marry because

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<v Speaker 1>they have patriarchy swimming in their heads too. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, ladies, i'm talking to you, your idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a power man might just be a guy who can

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<v Speaker 1>power a stroller. So it's not that we have fewer men,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that more women are surging ahead in education. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a university professor. The feminization of college campuses has been

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<v Speaker 1>a couple decades. In my particular school, we are about

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent females. So I'm telling you that, ladies, there

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<v Speaker 1>are not enough guys of your education and income level

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<v Speaker 1>to go around. Now you're all thinking, like, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be the one to get the alpha male so I

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<v Speaker 2>Then why did you go to school?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this trend about trad wife? Okay, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>cool to be like I am. I have a partner,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a best friend. We're equal in some ways,

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<v Speaker 1>uneas equal in others, but it all balances out right.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got my head off this idea that a

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<v Speaker 1>man should make more money than me, that a man

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<v Speaker 1>should be tough or stoic or whatever, and I instead

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<v Speaker 2>And laundry, I'm like, oh my gom, and he can

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say anything for that. It's amazing. It's like I

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<v Speaker 2>have a tad wife. No I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a career too. Okay, so understand your mating marketplace.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in a mating marketplace, one of the worst

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<v Speaker 1>places for educated single women right now is New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>just an oversupply of successful women. I'm sorry, Kayla, you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>My producer just rolled her eyes and looked very sad

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<v Speaker 1>when I said that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like New York men. That's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, everybody likes those men, especially the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>work on Wall Street and are tall and have deep voices.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't all have them, and doesn't mean you're settling.

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<v Speaker 1>It means you're finding something great. Get patriarchy out of

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<v Speaker 1>your head. That's when I say, secondly, learn your true

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<v Speaker 1>mate status. Now I'm gonna tell your story. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in my twenties, I was hot, hot, hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I could get any man in bed, literally, anyone, anytime,

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<v Speaker 2>I was hot, hot, hot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I became a single mom. I learned that

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<v Speaker 1>when you're dragging two kids as balls and chains around,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, these sort of like middle management,

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<v Speaker 1>middle age, middle weight divorce dads would start circling and

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when I realized, oh oh, my mate status

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<v Speaker 1>is not what it was now. I could have clearly chosen,

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<v Speaker 1>not settled, chosen to have a great, blended family with

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful guy. But I did not want to expose

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<v Speaker 1>my two daughters to a poor romantic choice that I

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you this. I read a statistic that

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<v Speaker 1>a non biologically related male mommy's boyfriend, mommy's.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently three times the rate of sex abuse, emotional abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>or physical abuse. And I had made really poor choices

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. I didn't want to expose my kids

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So I waited, and I kept studying the science.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote books about relationships, I did a dissertation on

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<v Speaker 1>attachment theory. And then when I finally entered the mating

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<v Speaker 1>marketplace again, I tested my mate status. I would hit

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<v Speaker 1>on those guys, match with them on the apps, not

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<v Speaker 1>hit on them, but you know, match with them on

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<v Speaker 1>the apps who were particularly tall, made a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>good looking, whatever, And I would see how long it

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<v Speaker 1>would take them to respond to me, and they took

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<v Speaker 1>too long, and then I went, oh, let me move

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<v Speaker 1>down a little bit on the scale. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>he had on that app for me, I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, this is cool. This is cool somebody who actually

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, you need to learn your attachment style. If you

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<v Speaker 1>do not know your attachment style, go and google these

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<v Speaker 1>words Chris Frayley, he's a big researcher and attachment Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Frayley attachment test. Go take it the attachment test, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can learn a little bit about why you're

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<v Speaker 1>choosing people who are inappropriate for you. Love is not

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<v Speaker 1>about finding happiness or pleasure. Love is about finding the familiar,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's based on some of our early childhood attachments

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<v Speaker 1>that we may not even remember how they laid out.

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<v Speaker 1>This becomes our model for love and finally learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to use those darn apps. I talk about it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time on my show on social media. Tune in

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to. All right, when we come back

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a therapist. I'm a psychology professor, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>written three books on relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love to weigh in on your love life.

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<v Speaker 1>I am taking your calls live here on the Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy Wall Show.

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<v Speaker 2>So give me a call.

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<v Speaker 1>The number is one eight hundred five two zero one

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<v Speaker 1>to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show and KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Kf I AM six forty. You have Doctor Wendy Walsh

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<v Speaker 2>with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Wall Show.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to go on Instagram live, and my

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers one eight hundred five two zero one, five

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, we have Charlene with a question.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlene. Hi, Charlene, it's doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi, doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your question? Love?

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<v Speaker 7>All right, So, my husband and my mother got into

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, first of all, this is not your issue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an issue between your husband and your mother. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is important that when you are in a marriage

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<v Speaker 1>that you appear as a united front with your spouse,

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever the argument was, to reach out to your

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<v Speaker 1>Him you agree with him, but it's it's also like

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<v Speaker 1>it's between the two of them. But I know it

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<v Speaker 1>impacts you, so you need to say to your husband, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a team.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want to give a gift to me,

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<v Speaker 1>which is my relationship with my mother, then you know, please,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go and apologize for at least your tone

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what it was. Okay, if you like to

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<v Speaker 1>I think my Instagram just did not work.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we don't have a good internet here.

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<v Speaker 2>If we have good audio, I'll say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, dear doctor Wendy looking at my DMS here my interest,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume you mean you love Interest has two phones

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<v Speaker 1>and I only have the phone number to one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a sign that we aren't that close? We've

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<v Speaker 1>been dating for four months? Okay, this is a sign

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<v Speaker 1>of many things. Who has two phones unless.

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<v Speaker 2>They're planning to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Side relationships somehow, remember baby Rein, deer Lady, shit, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of phones. I would start by growing some

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<v Speaker 1>intimacy with this human who you're interested in by simply saying,

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<v Speaker 1>can we talk about why you have two phones? And

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<v Speaker 1>they'll try to brush it off, well, one is just

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<v Speaker 1>my work phone or whatever, and then say, oh, can

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<v Speaker 1>I have that number in case I can't reach you

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<v Speaker 1>on this one or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And just see what happens. See what happens. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you a funny story.

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<v Speaker 1>So one time I had I can't remember why the

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<v Speaker 1>police were called. There was something I had a break in,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially in my apartment building at the time, and three

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<v Speaker 1>police officers came in just to check things out, to

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<v Speaker 1>make everything safe. And there was a female police officer

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<v Speaker 1>and there were two males. So the males went outside

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, look at the perimeter of the

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<v Speaker 1>building whatever. She was inside asking me a few questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and we start talking about relationships and dating, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's what girls do.

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<v Speaker 2>You get two women together. They start talking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So then she says.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, you know, I live in a man's world.

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<v Speaker 1>I got male partners and they're all married. And let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, they all have a second cell phone

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<v Speaker 1>that they keep under the car seat and they turn

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<v Speaker 1>it off when they get home to their wife.

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<v Speaker 3>I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Are good men in blue? I can't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh they're like all men, I guess, but it makes

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<v Speaker 1>it a little easier. But she's witnessed to it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I would ask him why the other phone and

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<v Speaker 1>give me details and give me the digits for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if not, like, yeah, you're not that close.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't even have this conversation, all right, moving on, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Wendy, My husband and his friends go on guys

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<v Speaker 1>trips every year. One of the guys and his wife

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<v Speaker 1>got a divorce, and during a nasty fight, he said

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<v Speaker 1>that their guys trip was really a trip where they

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<v Speaker 1>act single and cheat. Oh dear, my husband and I

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<v Speaker 1>are in a rough patch, and I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to ask him about this. I am

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<v Speaker 1>very distraught. Okay, if you and your husband are in

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<v Speaker 1>a quote unquote rough patch, then the both of you

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<v Speaker 1>need to get into couple's therapy and that's the place

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<v Speaker 1>to bring this up. And the way you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it up is say, look, I had heard this.

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<v Speaker 1>It made me scared, and we're going through such a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time. What can you tell me about this?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So that would freak me out, Just saying, but I'd

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it in the safety of a therapist's

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<v Speaker 1>office so that you could really really get to the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of it and your feelings and his feelings about this.

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<v Speaker 1>But wonder if it's true. All right, moving along to

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<v Speaker 1>my dms. If you'd like to send me a DM

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, it's at d R Wendy Walsh at doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy Walsh. Dear doctor Wendy. My first few dates humbled

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<v Speaker 1>me instead of showering me with compliments, humbled me. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you mean put you down?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it something with me or these men just insecure?

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<v Speaker 1>I was told my career isn't that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be prettier if I cut my hair. My personality

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<v Speaker 1>is too strong. Oh my goodness, woman, that's terrible. When

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<v Speaker 1>I first started dating the men, they were more complimentary,

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<v Speaker 1>frustating them in why are they doing this now? Because

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<v Speaker 1>they're insecure and because you have power.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know this, ladies, the reason why guys

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<v Speaker 1>put you down. It's a psychological trick that goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the beginning of time. They want you to feel

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<v Speaker 1>insecure so you will stay with them. So when they

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<v Speaker 1>do tell you your career isn't a big deal, or

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be pretty er if you cut your hair, or

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<v Speaker 1>your personality is too strong, you reach down into your

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<v Speaker 1>belly and you do a big ass belly laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>You laugh, you find that funny. Just put them off guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Just laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all you should do. Like, I'm so confident. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're really gonna say that about me, I will just laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even have any words, Just laugh, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you'd like to give me.

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<v Speaker 1>A call or send me a DM you may when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back from the break. The numbers one eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and five two zero, one five three four or

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<v Speaker 1>DM me on Instagram at doctor Wendy Walsh. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 1>forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>On KFI Am six forty, you have Doctor Wendy Walsh

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<v Speaker 1>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a Doctor Wendy Walsh Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking your calls and answering your social media direct

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<v Speaker 1>messages because I'm on your love life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Kayla, who do we have on the line? We

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<v Speaker 1>have right with the question, Hirie, It's doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your question?

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<v Speaker 3>Love?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's a little bit of a scenario, and I

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<v Speaker 5>hope you give me a minute to try to bring

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<v Speaker 5>you up to speed. But I've been involved with the

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<v Speaker 5>same person for twenty six years and we've been married

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<v Speaker 5>for nineteen years, and we had been going through some

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<v Speaker 5>financial difficulty. She was in school, and I was trying

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<v Speaker 5>to find remote work while building a bus an architectural

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<v Speaker 5>designer BIS and one day, well, there was a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of other situations and circumstances that were leading up to

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<v Speaker 5>us having to be a VICTI from a place that

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<v Speaker 5>we were staying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sorry, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I appreciate that. And you know, I'm working with

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<v Speaker 5>disability and I'm trying to also do those things that

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<v Speaker 5>are necessary trying to help us. She was trying to

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<v Speaker 5>help us. To be fair, it takes two people to

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<v Speaker 5>make it in this world. If they're going to be together,

557
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<v Speaker 5>they got to work together to try to make things

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<v Speaker 5>work out. But she gave me, she told me that

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<v Speaker 5>we needed to go. I needed to go and sign

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<v Speaker 5>some paperwork, and I trusted her. So I went to

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<v Speaker 5>go do that and that she had already signed, came

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<v Speaker 5>back and she had taken everything. We had a dog,

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<v Speaker 5>a fourteen year old dog together. She took him, she

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<v Speaker 5>took everything else. What a shock, Yeah, it is, It

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<v Speaker 5>is very much. It was supposed to be a judgment

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<v Speaker 5>that was supposed to give us a little bit more

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<v Speaker 5>time before we had to move.

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<v Speaker 1>And was it that or was she duping you in

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<v Speaker 1>some way in that area too?

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<v Speaker 5>She was duping me because she had already signed it

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<v Speaker 5>and she knew that she needed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, So Ray, what's your question

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<v Speaker 2>about this?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So the question is she told me that she

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<v Speaker 5>did this, and one of the reasons was that I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't keep her safe. And then the other thing about

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<v Speaker 5>that is, well, my statement to her was, well, you

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<v Speaker 5>didn't keep our marriage protected because she brought someone else

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<v Speaker 5>in between us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there was some infidelity as well, exactly, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>And I found out about this back in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to so tell me your question because

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<v Speaker 2>I want to.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to understand what that means when you say

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't keep you safe and then when I say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you didn't. You didn't keep our marriage safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it sounds like you're searching for the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to the question why and also the question of who's

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<v Speaker 1>that fault? And I will tell you that you will

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<v Speaker 1>go down a rabbit's hole of spinning thoughts trying to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with the answer to those questions, because the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is, you even said it. It takes two to tango,

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<v Speaker 1>takes two to make a marriage, takes two to keep

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<v Speaker 1>a marriage. And if you're spending your time thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>what you could have done differently, or what she should

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<v Speaker 1>have done differently, then you're not moving on with your life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, ray What she did with you, not

598
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<v Speaker 1>spending the time processing with you, not spending the time

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<v Speaker 1>actually even breaking up with you by just disappearing was

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible betrayal. And you have every right to feel angry.

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<v Speaker 1>You have every right to grieve right. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people is like, have your feelings, you are

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<v Speaker 1>owed them. But I'm telling you if you spend your

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<v Speaker 1>time thinking should have, would have, could a then you

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<v Speaker 1>will never evolve from this relationship. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>go find a therapist and let me tell you lots

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<v Speaker 1>of affordable ones. Just go near and a university that

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<v Speaker 1>has a PhD program in psychology. They all have a

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<v Speaker 1>counseling center. They work on a sliding scale, sometimes as

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<v Speaker 1>little as ten dollars an hour. I'm telling everybody this,

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<v Speaker 1>It is possible to find affordable therapy and you go

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<v Speaker 1>in there and say I want to work on my

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<v Speaker 1>anger and grief so I can move on. But I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you from my personal experience, the more I spent

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<v Speaker 1>time in my life trying to figure out other people

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<v Speaker 1>and why they did things or to blame myself, it

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<v Speaker 1>was time wasted because I never got the answers. I

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<v Speaker 1>never got the closure, and it doesn't matter. This important

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<v Speaker 1>relationship is over and you are betrayed and you were hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's your feelings that need to be attended to.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for calling Ram, I'm so sorry this happened

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<v Speaker 1>to you. And heading onto my social media, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you that coincidentally, the next question that I

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up is almost the same question. A woman says,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear doctor Wendy, I got ghosted by a fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>year old man that I dated for eight months. I

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<v Speaker 1>need answers. I'm internalizing his actions, and it's not fair

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<v Speaker 1>to me. My friends suggest popping up at the gym

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to. Is this how I should get my answers? Everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, I spent a life doing this, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out other people and why they did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the why doesn't matter. What matters is your loss,

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<v Speaker 1>your grieving, your feelings of betrayal. You waste so much

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<v Speaker 1>time when you focus on them instead of focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>healing and raising your own self esteem. Honestly, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>an overthought and triple thought and thought too much and

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<v Speaker 1>swirled around with.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he did this, maybe he did this. We maybe

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<v Speaker 2>had a bad childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he did this.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe I shouldn't have said that. It will drive

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<v Speaker 2>you crazy. Don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Work on moving forward and healing, all right? Moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear doctor Wendy. My crush does everything to push me

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<v Speaker 1>away because he says he will hurt me. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's scared of love. Am I fooling myself? Or could

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<v Speaker 1>I be? Or could I be healing his self sabotage? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when people tell you who there they are, believe them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>believe them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>A story I've told her before. On a third date

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<v Speaker 1>with a guy who is being very emotionally avoidant with me,

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<v Speaker 1>he gave me a Cardier watch. Now I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was a sign of Oh, that's amazing. This guy's really

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<v Speaker 1>crazy for me. He's gonna come around, he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>less avoided. No, no, no, this was an apology gift

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<v Speaker 1>for the pain that was to come, because it's inappropriate

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<v Speaker 1>to give somebody a gift that expensive on a third date.

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<v Speaker 1>It was him saying, this is the best I can

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<v Speaker 1>do because I can't give you me, can't give you

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<v Speaker 1>my feelings, can't give you my love, can't give you

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<v Speaker 1>my intimacy.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm telling you that if somebody says I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hurt you, they mean it, and you need to listen

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<v Speaker 1>because later, when it gets awful, they get to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but I told you, right, I told you so, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>move on, don't know, don't It's not your job to

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<v Speaker 1>heal anybody, not your job to ever heal anybody. That's

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<v Speaker 1>their job when they're ready. Uh, Dear doctor Wendy, I

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<v Speaker 1>went through my wife's phone. Unfortunately. I like that word

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately there because I know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even have to read further.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, we were having financial struggles then and then

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<v Speaker 1>they magically stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, uh oh.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, she can cover the bills. It

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<v Speaker 1>made me suspicious, and I found out she'd been doing

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<v Speaker 1>sex work. I'm devastated. What's the best way to address this?

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<v Speaker 1>There is no way to beat around the bush on this.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to say, honey, I'm a bad person. I

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<v Speaker 1>went through your phone. I was trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>because you seem to be living a double life, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not home that often. Now you're paying for all the bills.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you should have asked her the question before

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<v Speaker 1>you went through her phone. You're both guilty of something right,

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<v Speaker 1>violation of privacy, violation of I assume you were monogamous

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<v Speaker 1>and you had a deal that you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be monogamous. Yeah, I'm saying, you just got to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up flat out. I went through your phone. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry it was the wrong thing to do, but I

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<v Speaker 1>found out something wrong you've been doing to me. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with people who have open relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and they have all the rules and they know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing, but it's the betrayal thing right, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's not so good. Hey, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that alleged assassin Luigi. A lot of young

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<v Speaker 1>girls and older ones too, are thinking he's pretty hot, hot,

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<v Speaker 1>hot hot. I want us to all play armchair psychologists

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<v Speaker 1>like the rest of the Inner net is doing right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and try to figure out if he has a personality disorder.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I teach this stuff. We go through the

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<v Speaker 1>criteria in the DSM. Let's do it together, shall we

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<v Speaker 1>like a little school project. But he's cute, Let's analyze him.

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