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Speaker 2: Come here be.

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Speaker 1: By Meda dies inside these walls, inside the wild.

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Speaker 2: And when their as I Hey everyone, and welcome back

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to Bloody Angola, a podcast one forty two years in

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the making, the complete story of America's bloodiest prison. I'm

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Jim Chapman, and today we are starting a new series.

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It's going to be covering the phenomenon known as hybristophilia.

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Now these days, hybristophilia is becoming a major problem, especially

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the last few years, but it's actually been an issue

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you pretty much forever. So the first question you might

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be asking is what is hybristophilia. Well, the official definition,

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according to Webster, is that hybristophilia is a paraphilia involving

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sexual interest in and attraction to those who commit crimes.

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In Layman's terms, it means there's a sexual attraction to

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bad boys or bad girls, and it's commonly referred to

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as Bonnie and Clyde syndrome for obvious reasons. Now, one

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of the most famous examples, or infamous, i should say,

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of hybristophilia is the large number of women that were

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attracted to Ted Bundy after his arrest. He drew scores

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of women at the courtrooms. They just jam packed it

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during his trials each day, and they weren't ashamed or

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thought it was weird that they were there talking about

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how hot they found this fucking serial killer. Bundy allegedly

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received hundreds of love letters from women while he was incarcerated,

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and actually married a woman by the name of Carol

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Ann Boone, who he had met while both were working

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in Washington. But he proposed to her in the middle

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of the proceedings of his trial while Boone was on

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the witness stand. Listen to this. You will married? Yes, yes,

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I do want man now. Boone did give birth to

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a daughter whom many believe Bundy had fathered. Jeffrey Dahmer,

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Charles Manson, even the unibomber Tek Kazinski had hundreds of

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admirers who were sexually attracted to them. And it's not

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limited to women, but it's much more common, it seems,

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so in most cases this is harmless. It's love letters, etc.

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To prisoner's but what if it's a correctional officer like

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the story we covered with Viggie White, or even worse,

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what if it's the warden's life. And that's exactly the

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story I'm bringing you today. I'm going to tell you

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the details of the crazy case involving Bobby Parker and

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Randolph Dial. So you can't start this story without starting

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at the beginning and a guy by the name of

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Kelly Dean Hogan. Now. Kelly was born in nineteen fifty

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three in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, and he had a typical

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family life you would expect growing up. He had a

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brother or a sister, and to keep him busy, his

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parents enrolled him in karate school at a young age,

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and he absolutely fell in love with the sport, really

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took to it. He was really good at it, and

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by the the time he enrolled in college, he started

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teaching it as well. Now, people absolutely loved Kelly and

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his teaching style and the fact that he was a

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third degree black belt with a ton of experience helped

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draw students in. And Kelly wasn't just athletic, he was

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also smart. And in short order, very short order, he

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graduates from Oklahoma State University with a degree in psychology. Now,

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after graduation, he continued teaching at his instructor's dojo, and

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after about ten years of teaching, which incidentally was in Tulsa, Oklahoma,

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he got somewhat of a bad taste in his mouth.

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He was ambitious, and most of the students who took

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classes there did so because Kelly was the instructor. He

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was very well wh liked. He specialized in teaching children.

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He had a lot of patience, He explained things extremely

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well so they can understand. And it was in nineteen

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seventy eight that he decided he was going to go

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ahead and take his shot be a business owner. He

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goes out and he opens his own karate school. Now,

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this did create a major problem with the person he

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was working for because when Kelly left and opened what

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was known as Kelly Hogan's International Taekwondo Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma,

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a lot of students left with him and his former boss.

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during all this he also got married to his wife, Denise,

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a business owner, he's making money, he's got a ton

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of students just couldn't be happier, and the next several

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years was much of the same. Kelly Hogan was growing

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his business. He was really making a name for himself

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in the Tulsa, Oklahoma area. If you were looking to

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take taekwondo, that's who you wanted to take it from.

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From all accounts, he was just a good dude, which

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is why it came to such a shot to the

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entire Tulsa community on September sixteenth of nineteen eighty one,

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when Kelly Dean Hogan was killed shot once in the

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chest at his home at ten thirty pm that night,

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so Hogan and his wife they had been out to eat.

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to his wife, it appeared that Hogan had been arguing

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with a man in a blue business suit at that

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door when the shooting occurred. Denise Hogan said she overheard

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her husband arguing over the whereabouts of a woman named

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Patty Thomas. The shooter was asking Kelly where she was,

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saying she had a karate class earlier that day with Hogan.

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Kelly Hogan, however, he didn't know what the hell this

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guy was talking about. The gunman then said to Hogan

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that he knew she was there, meaning at Hogan's karate studio.

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Kelly Hogan still continuing to insist at that doorway that

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he had no idea what this guy was talking about.

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The guy then pulls a three eighty pistol and shoots him. Hogan,

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now shot, runs from the doorway through the house and

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collapses in the garage and dies. Now everyone that knew

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Kelly Hogan, they knew there was no way he was

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having an affair. This would have been totally out of

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character for this guy. And it's important to note that

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police did check the schedule of that karate studio and

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no one by the name of Patty Thomas was scheduled

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for karate classes ever at that school. So on September

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nineteenth of nineteen eighty one, Kelly Hogan is buried at

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Ridgelawn Cemetery in Collinsville, Oklahoma. Ten days later, on September

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twenty ninth of nineteen eighty one, police release a drawing

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of the suspect in that murder. The man was described

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as thirty five to forty white male, light brown here

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in about six feet tall, with the pudgy build. He

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was wearing a three piece suit, a black belt with

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a gold buckle, and a navy blue tie. And it

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was about that point that police offered a one thousand

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dollars reward for information leading to that suspect. Then, on

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October one of nineteen eighty one, just a few weeks

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after Kelly's murder, a guy by the name of Gary Edwards,

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who was thirty four. He lived in Manford, Oklahoma. He

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was named as a suspect. At the time, Edwards was

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also being chased by US marshals for violating his parole

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by issuing worthless checks. Not a good guy. And when

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I was looking through the research of this one, this

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guy had so several aliases, but one of them really

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stuck out to me. James Bond was one of his aliases.

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I mean, maybe not the best fake name to use

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if you're gonna go on the run, but whatever. Now,

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it was interesting that Edwards not only closely matched the

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composite drawing of the killer, but he was also said

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to have been hanging out around Kelly's karate studio just

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a few hours prior to the murder. So it took

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nine months to finally track this guy down, but on

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July of nineteen ninety two, police catch up with him

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and Gary Edwards is questioned. However, it was during this

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questioning that police all but removed his name from consideration

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as a suspect. And that makes me think maybe he

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had an alibi that was full proof. Then on the

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same month, in July of nineteen eighty two, an anonymous

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donor offers ten thousand dollars for the arrest and conviction

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of Kelly Hogan's killer, Which that was significant, that's about

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thirty three thousand dollars in today's money. The dinner placed

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a deadline of midnight on October fifteenth of nineteen eighty

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two in order to collect that reward. He's hoping the

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deadline would create a bit of urgency, but it didn't.

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The case pretty much grows cold as ice. That is

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until nineteen eighty six when Randolph Dial walked up to

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authorities in Las Vegas and confesses to shooting and killing

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Kelly Hogan. So who the heck was Randolph Dial Well.

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Dial was born in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in nineteen forty four, and,

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unlike Kelly Hogan, who had a structured All America and upbringing,

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Dile's childhood was not nearly as carefree. His parents divorced

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when Dial was just three years old, and growing up

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was more of a struggle, especially financially. But Dial had

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several things going for him. He was very talented, an

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extremely talented sculptor an artist, and that was noticed in

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Dial at an early age. He also had a magnetic

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personality and was described more than once as having a

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unique presence when he walked into a room and really

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knew how to talk to people. And he was extremely smart,

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some people say genius level smart. Dial had a master's

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degree in art, and at twenty six he became a

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teacher for Tulsa Public Schools, teaching at Carver Middle School,

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but it was a short stint. He only taught for

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one year and he kind of got bored with it.

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He started working as a sculptor in the Tulsa area

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as well as Las Vegas, where he traveled often, and

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he was such an amazing sculptor, in fact, that he

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became very sought after, so much so that later in

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nineteen eighty two, one of his pieces was featured on J. R.

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Ewing's desk for the entire run of the series known

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as Dallas. It was a sculpture of an oil rig,

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and even today there's a piece at Walt disney World's

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Atcott Center featuring Randolph dials work. His pieces back then

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sold for around twenty five hundred dollars each, which is

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nearly eighteen thousand dollars in today's money. Now. At some point,

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Randolph Dial gets married to Christina Dile, but he divorces

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her in nineteen seventy eight, and then in nineteen seventy nine,

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Dial marries Mary Catherine Dial, who he met during his

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job working as a goldsmith in Tulsa, and Dial had

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developed a problem during all this time, he was a

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severe alcoholic. His drinking problem was so severe, in fact,

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that between nineteen seventy nine in nineteen eighty one, a

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Tulsa couple who hired him to do some work for

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them at their art shop said he routinely failed to

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show up for work because he was drunk just couldn't

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make it. It was affecting his livelihood. Now. Mary Catherine

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had a daughter from a previous relationship, and together they

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had a second daughter, but they divorced in nineteen eighty

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three after Dial meets another woman. After that woman's father

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introduces her to Dial at an AA meeting. Her name

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was Robin. They get married in nineteen eighty three, and

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there's some dispute as to whether he and Mary Catherine

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were even legally divorced when he marries this other woman.

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But nineteen eighty three did seem to be a good

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year for Dial. A thirteen piece bronze sculpture he made

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depicting the life of Jesus sold for the highest amount

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he had ever received for his work. A newspaper article

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even covered it and said that Dial had made efforts

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to save the life of a two year old child

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in Shreveport, Louisiana, who needed a liver transplant by using

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part of the proceeds from that sale. So a lot

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of people thought Dial was a good guy, but not everybody.

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In fact, Dial was a com man. Many of those

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who knew him at this time described him as cocky, arrogant,

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and pretty much full of shit. And it also came

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out that he had mafia tize. Dile's name emerged in

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a Tulsa federal trial for the prosecution of Jack Michael King,

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who allegedly had ties to a Kansas City, Missouri organized

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crime family. King was convicted on several charges, including explosives,

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and according to witnesses, King was going to use car

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bombs to collect on murder contracts in the crime family.

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One of those was an eight thousand dollars contract supposedly

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he hired Dial to fill. Dial was supposed to testify

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at the trial against King, but for unexplained reasons, his

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name was withdrawn as a witness and he disappeared. So

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in July of nineteen eighty five, Randolph and Robin Dile

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moved to Las Vegas, where they were always in financial

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trouble and lived in some really bad parts of town.

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Dial was also severely depressed. He stayed drunk for days

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the Dials have a baby, and so this kind of

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lights a fire under Randolph dials ass and he finds

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some work. He starts painting houses, and he was earning

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some money with his sculpting, but nothing serious. And Robin

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good spirits until the news hit about a nuclear meltdown

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at Chernobyl. Now, for some reason, this accident affected Dial

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and basically threw him into a state of depression like

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never before, she said. Shortly thereafter that, Dial disappeared for

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several days, and she didn't hear from him again until

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he called her from the Clark County jail on May

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first of nineteen eighty six, and let me tell you

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what happened. So, on that day, May first of nineteen

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eighty six, a drunk Randolph Dial walks up to a

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uniformed police officer at a convenience store and he tells

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that officer that he murdered Karate instructor Kelly Hogan. So

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the Las Vegas Police Department they take him in and

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they call the Tulsa Police Department and they informed those

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guys and hey, we got a man in custody and

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he claims to have killed somebody named Kelly Hogan. Do

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you know anything about this? And a guy named Sergeant

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Rick ross In Corporal H. C. Miller. They say, hell, yeah,

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we know about this. They fly to Las Vegas and

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they interview Dial over a five day period. So Dial

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had told police that a phone call was made to

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Hogan in which a woman who turned out to be

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Mary Catherine Dial called to set up an appointment with

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Hogan at his karate center. Now, according to Dial, the

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call was a pre planned event in order to figure

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out the karate instructor's schedule. You might be shocked that

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Mary Catherine was even tied into this. Well. Dial lied

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to her obviously. He told her that a mutual friend

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named Abdullah had hired Dial to just bust up Hogan

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beat him up, basically, and she was not aware he

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was going to kill Dial. So after Hogan's murder, Mary

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Catherine said that Dial had suddenly, out of the blue,

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started flashing a substantial amount of money. According to Dial,

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he was paid five thousand dollars for the hit, and

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he told police that he confessed to the murder because

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he was afraid to be killed by the mafia. So

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on May six of nineteen eighty six, he's officially charged

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with first degree murder in the death of Kelly Hogan

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and is held without bond in that Las Vegas jail.

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So police, hearing all of this mafia tall, they were

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very interested in arresting this Abdullah guy and Dial he

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was very interested in getting a lighter sentence. So less

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than two weeks after his arrest, Randolph Dial is released

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from jail and was equipped with a wireless microphone and

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under the supervision of law enforcement, and the whole point

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there was to see if he could get some incriminating

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information out of Abdullah. Long story short, there was no

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Abdullah that anybody could find. It came out later on

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Dile was actually hired by a man who took classes

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from Kelly Hogan and got pissed after he was corrected

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and kind of embarrassed in class, so he pays Dial

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to kill Kelly Hogan. On August eleventh of nineteen eighty six,

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Dial pleads guilty to the murder of Kelly Hogan and

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he sentenced to life in prison. Shocking turn of events.

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Just months after Dial is sentenced to prison, Mary Catherine Dial,

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his second wife, who made that phone call to the

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karate instructor claiming to be a female interested in classes,

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She is shot and killed in her home and police

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speculated it was in retribution for the murder of Kelly Hogan.

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So while Randolph Dial is in jail, he gets sued

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civilian by the family of Kelly Hogan. Remember, Dial's a

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very talented artist, and with all that time to just

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do time in prison, he could hammer out a massive

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amount of sculptures, and they do win a civil case

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for over a million dollars, but as you might imagine,

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they never receive a dime. But Dial is hammering out

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sculptures as predicted. And while an inmate at Connor Koreshtion Center,

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he was featured in an article about working on his

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art in prison. He created an actual life size sculpture

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of Mary Magdalen and that statue was featured at the

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State Capitol Prison's art show and it was estimated to

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be valued at over one hundred thousand dollars. But Kelly

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Hogan's family never got that money. So Randolph Dile he's

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living the prison life right, and he's becoming very popular

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actually not only on the inside, but on the outside

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of the walls of the prison because of how good

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his art is. And on May twenty first of nineteen

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ninety one, Dial gets moved to the medium security portion

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of Oklahoma State Reformatory. Spokesman Josh McCurdy, who was an

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assistant to the warden, a guy by the name of

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Jack Kelly, said that Dial had painted murals all over

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the place. Quote when we closed down in one of

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the cell houses, we sheet rocked the walls and he

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put murals on them. There were five murals in all,

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and they featured the official patches of the Department of

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Corrections and the Reformatory, an Oklahoma State Territory map, a

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nineteen ten oil rig, a wheat field, a farmhouse, and

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even a barn. On February of nineteen ninety four, something

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kind of unprecedented happens for a murderer. Dial actually gets

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moved to the minimum security portion of the Oklahoma State Reformatory.

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That never happens when you're a violent, convicted murderer, right,

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but he does. He gets moved, and that speaks to

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how smooth a talker and how comfortable Dial made people.

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Now when asked about it, official said he was eligible

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for a minimum security status even though he was serving

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a life sentence for murder. Officials said, you must do

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of forty five years, and then it's possible to be

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moved to a lighter security unit. In twenty percent of

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forty five years, y'all would be nine years. They just

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didn't see Dial as a threat. As I told you

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at the start, he was charming, fast, talker, smart, So

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imagine the shock. Imagine the shock went on August thirtieth,

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of nineteen ninety four, Dial escapes Oklahoma State Reformatory with

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Bobby Parker, who is none other than Deputy Warden Randy

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Parker's wife Bobby Parker and her husband, Randy Parker. They

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lived right next to the Oklahoma State Reformatory along with

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the couple's two daughters, and their daughters at the time

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were ages eight and ten. Dial had been doing a

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lot of work with his ow art for the prison,

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and as crazy as it sounds, he built up a

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lot of trust. Now, for his type of work, you

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need a kiln, and it just so happened that the

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Parkers at their home had a kiln. And not only that,

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Bobby Parker was head of the art program that Dial

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was kind of the star of right. Bobby Parker herself

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was very into ceramics, which is why they had that kiln.

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And it wasn't long before Randolph Dial was working in

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the garage of the Parker's residence doing his art, and

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Dial became a daily fixture at the Parker's home. Bobby Parker,

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in particular, volunteered often to help Dial and spent a

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lot of time alone in that garage with Dial. So

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on the morning of August thirtieth of nineteen ninety four,

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Randy Parker he leaves for work as usual, and he

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saw Dial working in the garage, walked by him, said hello,

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and took off to work. When he returned to the

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house that afternoon, Parker wasn't there. She had left a

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note saying she had gone shopping, so nothing really seemed

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off to Deputy Warden Parker. It wasn't until that evening

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that he was like, what the fuck she still ain't back.

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Reinnie realized he hadn't laid eyes on Dial or his

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wife since early that morning. And this is the time

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before cell phones were prevalent, y'all. It wasn't like he

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could just say, let me text my wife and see

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where she's at, or check Life three sixty, or even

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call her on the phone. She just vanished. So Rennie

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Parker contacts one of the correction officers and he says, hey, good,

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check Randolph Dial's cell and ask him if he knows

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where the hell my wife is, hoping that maybe his

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wife mentioned something to Dial, or maybe he had a

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sixth sense. Regardless, the officer checks and it is discovered

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that Dial was not there. It was also at that

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moment that the warden realized that not only had Dial escaped,

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but he had abducted Bobby Parker in the process. So

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it was at this point that all hell breaks loose

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and a spokesman for the president, a guy by the

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name of Jerry Massey, he says to reporters, we think

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there's a possible hostage situation in that the wife of

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the deputy warden is also missing. Bobby Parker, who was

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thirty two, was wife of Deputy Warden Randy Parker, and

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she was last heard from about noon when she left

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a message with her husband's secretary saying she was going shopping.

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Her van was also missing, a nineteen ninety red Plymouth

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Voyager minivan. So that was the statement that came out now.

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At the time of the escape, Bobby Parker was in

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the middle of planning a fall carnival at the local

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First United Methodist Church, and another spokesman, Josh McCurdy, he

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came out and he said, we've got new sightings. At

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all authorities were unable to confirm that a van seen

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in a neighboring county about eight pm that evening matched

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the one believed used in Dial's escape. You know, you

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get all these people calling as soon as they hear something,

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and everything all of a sudden looks like a mini van.

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Then around the same time authorities were trying to confirm

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that van. Bobby Parker herself actually telephones her mother, Clara Klein,

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who lived in Kansas, at about eight pm that evening,

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and she asked her to tell her children that she

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was all right and she would be home soon. When

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her mother tried to get more information, Bobby started crying

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and the phone hangs up. So authorities behind the scene

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they are considering the possible that Bobby Parker is Dial's hostage,

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but also considering the possibility that Bobby Parker ran away

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with Dial and the crazy thing that came out once

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shit hit the fan was at the prison. Warden Jack

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Cally said Dial was not missing from every head count,

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which they performed head counts every two hours beginning at

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eleven am. Now, he was not confirmed missing until I'm

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as nine o'clock, when Parker's husband had that CEO go

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check on that cell. Cally said, I don't think he

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was overlooked. It's possible that somebody assumed that because Dial

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works for the deputy warden he's okay. Dile was assigned

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as a groundskeeper at the warden's home on the prison grounds.

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He had a job for about two months doing that.

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Cally described Dial as a model inmate and was a

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good risk for trust status. Well that's what he thought.

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So the FBI also joined in the search for Dial

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in Parker, and it's primarily because of the presumption that

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Dial may have crossed state lines with Parker. The FBI

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asked the public to watch for Dial. He was described

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as a white male five to nine, one hundred and

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fifty pounds, brown eyes, and gray hair. His front teeth

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are missing, and he has a small scar under his

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chin and a round scar on his left cap. Bobby

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Parker was described as a white female five five, one

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hundred and twenty pounds, shoulder leaf, auburn hair, and green eyes.

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She was last seen wearing a black blouse in black pants.

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Now the head warden, Jack Cally. He suspected that Dial

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may have developed somewhat of an affection for Parker and

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kidnapped her when she spurned his advances. He said Dial

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can be a very obsessive person. He obsessed over his artwork,

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He obsessed over criticism, of his art, and I think

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what could have happened is that he may have become

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obsessed with her. So in order to tamper down those

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thoughts that Parker may have assisted, Randolph Dial, correction spokesman

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Jerry Massey came out again and said that officials were

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convinced that Parker was an unwilling captive. Authority speculated that

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Dial hid in the back of Parker's minivan when Bobby

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left for that planned shopping trip, and there were a

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lot of things that would make you think this Everything

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in her life was a bunch of stuff I have

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to do next week, right. She had made previous arrangements

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for her and her husband to attend a prison radio

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event at the end of the week. And if you're

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planning on escaping with somebody, why would you do that.

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She didn't take any clothing or other items from her house.

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Everything was still there. You might take some of that

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stuff if you were planning on running off with someone

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in prison. Head warden Cow also noted that Dial had

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become close with the Parker family. He commented that Dial

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had told him several times that the Parker family was

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like the family he never had. Now at the time

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of his escape, Dial had about three hundred dollars in

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his prison bank account, but told someone that he had

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a secret bank account in Las Vegas. Now, Randolph Dial

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was known as a pathological wiar, so whether that was

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true or not remained to be seen, but what was

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certain was that Bobby Parker was missing and Randolph Dial

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had her. On September first of nineteen ninety four, Bobby's

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mini van is found by the Wichita Falls, Texas Police

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Department in a hobby lobby parking lot of all places.

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FBI spokesman Dan Vogel said the van was found around

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one thirty pm that day, and it also came out

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that Bobby had made a second phone call to a friend.

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Bobby told her friend that she was okay, everything will

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be over soon, and she began crying again before the

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call was disconnected. Now that call only lasted about fifteen seconds.

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Spokesman Josh mccurty said it was the same type of

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message as the call to her mother. She told her

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friend not to interrupt. She only had fifteen seconds, but

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she was all right and it was gonna be over soon.

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Wharton Cally said, we were just very excited when we

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heard about the call, because that means she was still alive.

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Police believed the call was made after Dial ditched that

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van in which it all falls Kansas, And of course

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they impound that van and examine it for evidence. But

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the only thing they found in that van was an

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empty pack of cigarettes from the same brand that Randolph

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Dial smoked. So police are looking everywhere for this guy.

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And on September sixth of nine, eighteen ninety four, a

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sheriff by the name of Andy Sellers comes out and

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he wanted to speak to how dangerous that Randolph Dile was.

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He said he was once a friend of Diles. He

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gave an interview to reporters discussing his reluctance to see

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Dial again. He said that Dial previously vowed that should

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he ever escape from president, he would return to kill

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the sheriff. The sheriff went on to say, I watch

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my back now. You never know. He's a smart man.

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So Sellers met Dial when he was working as an

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officer and responded to a domestic complaint at Dile's house

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way back in nineteen eighty two. Once that dispute was settled,

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Dial approached Sellers and talked about his work as a sculptor.

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Seller said, I befriended him and helped him. He didn't

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have a vehicle, so I gave him a ride to

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Tulsa a time or two, and Seller said he gave

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Dial his final ride around nineteen eighty four or nineteen

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eighty five, when Dial left his second wife, mat Mary Catherine,

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and headed to Las Vegas. Before they parted ways, Seller

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said Dial gave him a John Wayne rifle to sell

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and asked him to give the money to Mary Catherine.

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So the sheriff sells a rifle, and he said he

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kept twenty dollars for himself, but the sheriff said that

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Dial was unhappy with the seal of the rifle, and

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as Dial began to serve his life sentence for murder,

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he had a message for sellers. Seller said, before he

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was taken to prison, he said, if I ever got loose,

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he was going to come back and kill me. And

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he added that after Dial went to prison, he called

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the sheriff wanting to know if the sheriff had any

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idea who killed Mary Catherine, and that was the last

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time that he talked to Dial. On September seventh of

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nineteen ninety four. The next day, inmates and staff at

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the prison held hands and they prayed together. It was

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about one thirty pm, and it was about a week

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since Parker disappeared with dial They all prayed for Parker's

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safe return, and the warden said, we're just hoping now

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that she's alive. That's our concern. If we don't hear

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from them for several days, then that's not good. Callie added,

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nobody's considering or even willing to consider that she's anything

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but an unwilling hostage until they come back. I wouldn't

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even want to ponder that. Bobby's husband, Randy Parker, returned

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to work about a week after her disappearance. The couple's

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two daughters had also returned to elementary school. Calli the

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warden said that Randy Parker is as upbeat as he

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can be while anxiously waiting to hear about another phone

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call from his wife, and the warden said, we're all

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just sort of sitting on the edge of our seats

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waiting for something to happen. It may turn out that

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I'm surprised and she's released early, but we're preparing for

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this to be a long drawn out deal. Then On

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September sixteenth of nineteen ninety four, a film crew from

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the television show America's Most Wanted shows up and they

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actually record an episode, but they delay the airing because

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the producers said that they were still checking out rumors.

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Bobby Parker was not kidnapped. A spokesman for the show

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in New York City, he denied that claim, though he

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said the show was delayed because a more urgent program

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needed to be aired now. By October two of nineteen

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ninety four, the FBI was struggling to locate dial reports

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received by tipsters. They were flooding in with spottings of

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dial all over the place, New Mexico, Mexico, Arizona. But

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as I said, this is common, a very high percentage

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of those don't pan out, and it's more or less

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the public's paranoia in many cases that places tricks on them.

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So by November of nineteen ninety four, Randy Parker and

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his two young daughters, they're attempting to continue you their

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daily lives, and Randy said they did pretty well speaking

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of he and Bobby's children, but they're discouraged right now.

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They don't understand why it's been nine weeks and we

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haven't got her back. They really believe she'll be back.

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I won't believe anything else. Randy Parker then hires a

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Houston private investigator and offers a five thousand dollars reward

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for the safe return of his wife. He said, I

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feel like the FBI is working on it, and they're

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doing everything they can do. I just figured it's one

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more person looking with the intention of helping them. I

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want to do what I can to help them. I

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00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:43,239
want her back. Halloween was tough because it's a big

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deal for them and their mother, dressing up and all

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of them going out. And it's also notable that in

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November of nineteen ninety four, two more inmates escape prison

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and go on crime spreeze. This is just nine weeks

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after Dial escapes. How the hell does that happening? At

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this point is haywire in this case. They can't find Dial,

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nor can they find Bobby Parker. You've got Randy Parker

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who is just torn up about this whole thing. I

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really feel horrible for this guy. He's now raising two

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00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,800
daughters by himself, and nobody seems to have a clue

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where the hell Bobby Parker is but they're looking, and

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I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna wrap up for

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this week. I'll pick it up next week with of

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course dial still on the run, Bobby Parker into people

569
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,000
trying to figure out that she go on her own

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accord or what she kidnapped? Who knew? But we're gonna

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find out, and I'm gonna tell you it gets absolutely

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wild from here. Thank you so much for listening, and

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until next time for Bloody and Gola, a podcast one

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hundred and forty two years making the complete story of

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America's bloodiest present. Peace, m h.

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Speaker 1: A Wall Street line, shackle change, Oh, who's some girdie?

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It's calling my name? There is no mercy and it's

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been a century. Juice as the huge stream game. Wrangle three.

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Speaker 2: Come here behind.

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Speaker 1: By mere to die.

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Speaker 2: Inside these walls.

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Speaker 1: Inside Wow.

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Speaker 2: And when the walk

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Speaker 1: As I know, it's overbody Angler, ohbody Angle,