WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:18.440 Coming to you from the dining room table at East 2 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:23.480 Barbary Lane. Welcome to the first twenty twenty sixth episode 3 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:28.039 of Full Circle, the podcast. A visit to our home 4 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:31.719 where we squeeze a few headlines through our decidedly queer 5 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:36.200 lens and warm ourselves by the dumpster fire of a 6 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:39.679 new year. This episode is brought to you by Decanted 7 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:43.840 jug Wine, Surviving the Holidays, and a country I wish 8 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:46.679 I didn't recognize, but I do. 9 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:49.679 I am your host Charles Tyson Jr. 10 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.920 And I'm your host Martha Madrigo. Welcome to the Full 11 00:00:53.960 --> 00:01:03.640 Circle Table. Hi baby, Hi, we're fucking recording. We are, Yeah, 12 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:06.000 we are it. 13 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:14.959 You know, Happy new Year, Happy new Year, Well new year. 14 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:18.920 Yeah, it is a new year. I've been you know, 15 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:23.120 buried and well I wasn't feeling well. But but before that, 16 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:25.920 you know, still doing household things. 17 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.599 And and by the household things, you mean like making 18 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.959 it look like an entirely new one. 19 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:35.439 Yeah. I'm working on, you know, my to do list, 20 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:38.640 because like what else do you do? You know, like 21 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:41.959 I'm Marthas Stewart. When I don't know what else to do, 22 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:46.400 I dig it. Yeah. Well, we had the holidays, were 23 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.159 actually nice. They were you know, we did more than 24 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:52.400 survive them. But plenty of people, you know, and the 25 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:59.519 holidays are wrought with emotion and expectation and lots of 26 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:07.519 tradition and disappointment and confrontation all the things. Yeah, it's 27 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:11.639 it's also you know, and juxtaposed against you know, the 28 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:21.159 Trump regime. Yeah, that word regime is is well well yeah, 29 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:26.280 so much is happening every day and and you know, 30 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:29.919 all by design, and this is you know, so much 31 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:33.719 of this is just the natural conclusion of you know, 32 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:44.039 letting bullies be in charge of ignorance or run a UK. Yeah, 33 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:47.240 and anyone who acts like this is a surprise has 34 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:50.560 clearly not been paying attention, which like, if this is 35 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:54.879 just reaching your demographic, I welcome. I mean, like what else? 36 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:56.000 What else to say? 37 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:59.560 And there's surprisingly a lot of that lately, people being 38 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:05.039 like they're just not understanding or just being surprised, and like, wow, 39 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:07.439 when did this start? 40 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:13.879 Bitch? When I voted for the Leopards Eating Faces party, yeah, 41 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:18.639 I didn't mean it was supposed to eat mine, you know, 42 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:22.800 but these are the things that, you know, we've gotten 43 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.199 so far away from things that make sense. You know 44 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:28.439 what I mean, like, with all of this rhetoric and 45 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:31.280 when you cannot trust your government to tell you the 46 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:38.599 truth about anything, right, Yeah, And I'm just astounded, and 47 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.400 I've decided the only way that I can like still 48 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:46.400 be on Facebook is all the laughing emojis I assume 49 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:49.840 are bots. I just assume they're bots, because even if 50 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:52.520 they are, if there is an actual jath Row behind 51 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:56.840 that laughing emoji right somewhere, they basically this is a 52 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.879 hollowed out human being without a brain at this point, right, 53 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.120 my new because it's happening to you too, I'm. 54 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:07.199 Turning it into an opportunity for creativity. My thing has 55 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:11.439 been the collective IQ of this comment thread is the 56 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:16.079 last one I believe was soup skin well pocket lent 57 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:21.160 a pebble in my shoe. 58 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:28.199 Yeah, I mean, witty rhetoric. It doesn't help being It's all. 59 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:34.360 Because the alternative is being angry. And I woke up 60 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:39.240 this morning very angry because of social media and I 61 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:43.120 regret picking up my phone. Well that plus just what's 62 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:44.160 going on now. 63 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.399 Which we'll get to. We have just but you never listen. 64 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.439 You never listen when I say stay out of the 65 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:55.839 comment section. Truly, I mean, it's not just the comments 66 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.600 as true. 67 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:04.600 Yeah, the algorithm them and AI is pushing just just 68 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:07.439 bear poking, just right in my face. 69 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.720 You know. It's awesome about you know, working on home improvement. 70 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:15.560 It keeps my mind and my hands busy and off 71 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:18.839 of social media. True. 72 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:23.120 I did actually investigate in this thing that like takes 73 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.040 over your phone and makes it minimal, and when you 74 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:30.600 try to go on to social media, it like starts 75 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.759 guilting you, like why did you decide to kill this tree? Well, 76 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:36.800 except you have to pay for it? And I'm like, 77 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:40.319 but now I'm like, how much is my piece actually worth? 78 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:44.199 So I might revisit it? Well, and that's all I'm saying. 79 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:49.240 You know, if there's one thought that I've had over 80 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.279 you know, over this season, and we did have we 81 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:57.120 actually had lovely holidays with deer Ones. Sure, you know 82 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:00.959 our friends the grim Woods came up from Arkansas and 83 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:06.720 that was wonderful. Yeah, hey, friends of the Pause, that's right. 84 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:09.639 But you know, I get to see Keith often, but 85 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:12.920 for as long as I feel like I've known Beth, 86 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.759 we never actually got to spend time in person, right, 87 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:19.360 But they were here over Christmas, and what a lovely 88 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:22.519 lovely visit, truly with wonderful folks. 89 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:25.279 And I said to you, like, you know how when 90 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:27.959 you meet someone for the first time, then you spent 91 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.600 fifteen minutes with them and you forget that you just 92 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.240 met them, right, because y'all would chilling and keikey and 93 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:34.399 like you've known each other forever. 94 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:38.920 Right, That was Beth right. And Keith is the bass 95 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:42.519 player for trout Fishing in America, which Keith and is 96 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.639 Sarah and you know, such a wonderful talent and so 97 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.439 much great song. And proper cup of coffee from a 98 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:54.600 proper cup that was your jam, although I want it's 99 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.720 a proper cup of coffee from a proper copper coffee pot. Yeah, 100 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.639 there we go. Yeah, no, so it. But we just 101 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.560 had a lovely time, a lovely visit, lots of wonderful food, 102 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:08.199 ate too much, cook well, cook too much, ate too much, 103 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:12.959 that's not even yeah, but but it was. It was 104 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:17.040 lovely and relaxing and you know, loved ones and Kathy 105 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:20.879 shared with us, and you know that's what the holiday 106 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:24.040 should be. And Thanksgiving was lovely too. It was so 107 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:25.480 a lot. 108 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:28.800 Of wonderful things actually have been are happening. 109 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:30.360 Yeah, I had a birthday. 110 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:32.360 I just get rid over my mouth and say you 111 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:38.240 had a birthday? I did, Happy belated birthday. Yeah, how 112 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.680 does it feel to finally be a legal drinking age? 113 00:07:43.360 --> 00:08:03.800 For what? Ensure? It was funny? I am sixty six zero? 114 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:14.839 I sure stupid. I even give less of a fuck 115 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:16.920 now than I did in my fifties, and I gave 116 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:22.120 no fox. Yeah it's frightening. Yeah, do you know a 117 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:22.600 lot of. 118 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:25.519 So you're in a fucking deficit. 119 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:33.799 Right rights people owe you fox. I lost my last 120 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:40.240 fuck with anyway. No, it not as introspective as I 121 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:43.960 thought it would all be. It never is, yeah, except 122 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.519 I've had an introspective year. I mean like that's why 123 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:48.240 I quit smoking, do you know what I mean? Like 124 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:51.799 that was the thing was like, come, when you're turning sixty, 125 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.120 you need to sprit this already. And I'm still not 126 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.840 smoking cigarettes. No you're not, and nor weed I have. 127 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.279 I have a little nicotine babe, with like three percent 128 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:04.360 nicotine that I do still, you know, hitting oil on again, 129 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:07.960 but I don't inhale that right, So my breathing is 130 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:15.279 much better. Yeah, I barely smoking no anymore? Yeah, no, 131 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:19.840 no coughing, no, not from that I mean it was sick, 132 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:22.840 but a bit not from that like it was at all. 133 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:26.080 So yeah, still benefits, but that was one of the 134 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:27.480 things like leading up to it. So I had a 135 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.159 whole I think fifty nine was an introspective year in 136 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:31.120 some ways. 137 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:33.840 Right, Yeah, you were laying the groundwork. 138 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:38.480 Yeah, and then you know lost my job. Of course, 139 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:41.600 the person was most responsible for that just got fired. 140 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:46.240 Talk about your shaddenfreude. Yeah, that made me smile big. 141 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:49.320 I got that news Monday afternoon and I went, oh 142 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:54.080 my god, karma is real. Yeah, Karma comic co Yeah, 143 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.399 Karma come. Yeah. So that was kind of a bright spot. 144 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.960 But anyway, no, so yeah, there was a birthday and 145 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:08.440 mixed in there, and you know, life continues to life. 146 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:14.200 We had our spaghetti dinners, which carry forward and they're wonderful. 147 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.639 I got a promotion. You got a promotion, Yeah, for 148 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:21.240 the new year, because you're a new year patiant. 149 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.480 In fact, I start my new position tonight. 150 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:29.320 There you Yeah, I mean, good stuff is still happening. 151 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:37.080 But yeah, working on everything takes longer than it used to. 152 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:42.559 I swear, like just painting things and doing things and all, 153 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:46.360 I think because I need breaks in between now It's like, boy, 154 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.080 when I was twenty five, I said, knock out a 155 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:51.000 room in a weekend. Not as much anymore. But anyway, 156 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:54.399 it's almost done. The bathroom's almost done. Yeah, the kitchen's 157 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.879 pretty much done. You're doing the things. Yeah. And in between, 158 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:02.279 you know, lots of organizing and Clinton just my to 159 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:04.840 do list to my big long to do list of 160 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:08.279 all the things that I couldn't get to, right, you 161 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.679 know that we're bothering me. I'm getting to now, it's true. 162 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:14.279 So yeah, good stuff. Yeh. 163 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:18.399 Since we recorded last, Kathy and I went to see 164 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.000 a production of a play based on one of my 165 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:25.960 favoritest books on the planet, A Wrinkle in Time, and 166 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:30.200 that was lovely the Ardent Theater Company, and they were 167 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:34.759 so kind as to give Kathy and I a tour 168 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:40.080 of the theater and the costumes and the props for. 169 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.120 The whole thing, and I'm like, oh, look there's stuff 170 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:45.720 from Rent. Oh look there's stuff from that show. Okay. 171 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:47.279 It was very cool, and. 172 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:51.159 It was obvious that a fan of the book A 173 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:54.440 Wrinkle in Time directed this production because they did it right, 174 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:56.919 as opposed to the abomination that was that movie. 175 00:11:57.879 --> 00:11:59.200 I love Avid Dumurney but. 176 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:03.720 Child anyway, Yeah, I didn't like it either, and you 177 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:06.080 didn't have the connection to. 178 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.960 None, So that's why I was a really happy one. 179 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:12.320 Y'all went instead of me. I mean, I might have 180 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:15.159 enjoyed it, who knows, but it felt like it was 181 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:16.200 going to be wasted on me. 182 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.759 It was really good, And apparently that book is having 183 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:24.519 a moment this year because it's it plays a role 184 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:26.559 in the new season of Stranger Things. 185 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:28.080 Okay. 186 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:30.360 Yeah, Like in the first episode, which is the only 187 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:33.240 episode I've seen this season, one of the characters is 188 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.919 sitting at the breakfast table reading the book and it's 189 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:38.399 the copy that I had with the cover art that 190 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:39.919 I remember. Look at that. 191 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:45.639 Yay, Okay, it's cute. And what else? 192 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.720 Oh, the last time we recorded. 193 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.799 Was our holiday episode. Yes, we did an episode fun 194 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:56.200 on the film The Family Stone. 195 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:59.879 It was you and me and Kathy and our other 196 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:02.480 friend of the pod, doctor Alfred Martin Jr. 197 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.120 That was good. That was fun. I had a good time. Yeah, 198 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:09.159 I love that movie. So next year I think we're 199 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:11.519 doing love Actually, yes, that'll be fun. 200 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.759 Either next Christmas or we'll do it in July. 201 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.320 Is a Christmas in July oh that would be interesting too, 202 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:19.360 but yeah, because that's another one. But The Family Stone 203 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:22.639 is a movie I watched multiple times every holiday season. 204 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:26.919 Yes, while we got into a nice little debate over 205 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:31.639 the pros and cons of The Family Stone, I have 206 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:33.840 definite feelings about love. 207 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:37.320 Actually, I know, so fair. 208 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:39.440 Enough, desks and shit. 209 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:44.080 Yeah, Dick Van Dyke lived to be one hundred. Yes, 210 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:48.399 he's still alive. But he had a undredth birthday. Yeah, 211 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:48.879 I loved it. 212 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:52.720 Van Dyke always have the dirtiest name and show business. 213 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:58.879 Wow, only if you think so, I guess I know, 214 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:05.360 never thought that. But yeah, he's hundredth birthday and he's 215 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:10.320 still like sharp and yes, yeah, which is great. That's 216 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:15.240 fun to say. So that was a good thing. That's 217 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.120 a good thing. It was since. 218 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:21.200 Last we talked, we lost a bunch of people. 219 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:25.559 We did lose a bunch of people. Jesus, Yeah, okay. 220 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:28.919 Danny Seagrin died at eighty one. 221 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:30.840 He was a Sesame. 222 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:36.399 Street puppeteer and he was the first live action Spider Man. 223 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:41.080 What does that mean. He portrayed the first. 224 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:47.159 TV Yeah okay, yeah, on the on the Electric Company. 225 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.120 Spider Man was a recurring character on The Electric. 226 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:56.120 Yes, Okay, I do not remember. It didn't happen often 227 00:14:56.799 --> 00:14:59.759 there for the premiere of the Electric Company. It always 228 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:01.080 made happy. 229 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:05.200 He was occasionally a big bird as well, so he 230 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.960 was definitely an icon, right. 231 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:14.080 Yeah. Going to eighty one Lorraine Hutchins. 232 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:21.720 Yes, groundbreaking bisexual activist. She was seventy seven. 233 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:27.159 Co edited the anthology by any Other Name, helped bring 234 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:29.480 by activism into the modern era. 235 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:33.879 Yes, so safe to say she was a bi coon. 236 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:38.840 A bi con. Yes. Yes. She also helped create the 237 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:42.440 coalition that would later turn into Buynet USA and the 238 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:46.919 Alliance of Multicultural Bisexuals. 239 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.919 Which just sounds like my friend group in college. 240 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:58.399 Right right, Rest in Power Shore seventy seven. Yes. 241 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:08.159 Hiuki Tagawa passed away in early December. He was seventy five, 242 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:12.759 probably best known for his role as Shang Sung in 243 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:20.320 the Mortal Kombat World and you know, and he was 244 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:24.919 also in the film Pearl Harbor. I mean he was. 245 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:29.840 He was definitely a cool guy in Hollywood. And I 246 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.840 was sad to learn that he passed away from complications 247 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:34.799 of a stroke. 248 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:43.159 Yes. And then in mid December, Yeah, Rob Reiner and 249 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.200 his wife Michelle Singer, what a tragedy. 250 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.480 Yes, they were taken from us. 251 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:53.399 By all accounts, at the hand of their son. Yeah, 252 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:58.200 addiction and mental health author critically important. And you know, 253 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.200 I think we'll learn more more as time goes on. 254 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:04.720 But what a sad, sad story. 255 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:10.359 Yeah, everyone has a brad Ryder story. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 256 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:14.200 because he brought us like our favorite movies. 257 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:20.759 Absolutely, he was a storyteller and lived. You know what 258 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:24.440 he believed in they both did. Oh hell yeah, big 259 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:29.319 Player and marriage equality in California. Yea proposition, and you know, 260 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:31.799 because he thought it was important. 261 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:37.640 Yeah, he was a lot smarter than his character on 262 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:40.200 all in the family. But other than that, he was 263 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:44.160 very much that like, stood by his beliefs, was very 264 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:47.319 vocal about his beliefs and and and you know, had 265 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:48.799 the courage of his convictions. 266 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:55.039 But but what a what a storyteller, son of Carl Reiner, 267 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:55.559 of course. 268 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:00.680 But when I say, he brought us like our favorite movies, 269 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.480 like Spinal Tap and a Few good Men and Misery 270 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:09.000 when Harry met Sally, stand by me, Princess Bride. 271 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:12.799 Shout forgive me for that one. A few good Men, 272 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:18.640 Sleepless and Seattle. Yeah, like, oh my god, yep, yep, 273 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.279 The Wolf of Wall Street was so many, so many films, 274 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:25.680 so many films, and. 275 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.319 I love he had one of my favorite parts in 276 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:31.039 Bullets Over Broadway, which is my favorite Woody Allen film, 277 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:32.960 in one of the few that I like, when Hayleen's 278 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:33.720 out the window and. 279 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.000 Goes, I'm all. 280 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:44.839 So yes, rest in peace rather than Rob Brian or Michelleson. 281 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:50.079 He was seventy eight and she was seventy parent mm 282 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:55.000 and you know there are other children have to live 283 00:18:55.079 --> 00:19:00.480 with us and deal with this, and yeah, exactly, not 284 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:04.839 entirely unheard of. I mean, you know, we haven't begun 285 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:09.920 to feel the impact of you know, what DOGE did 286 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:13.920 to mental health and addiction funding in this country, but 287 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:19.480 we will. And because of that that, you know, just 288 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:24.000 the ham handed way that money was taken away from 289 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:27.319 critically important programs, we've not begun to see. And we 290 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.200 will see more of this, not less of it. Oh yeah, 291 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.960 in this country, because that's just what we've become. And 292 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:40.680 you know, it's something that affects literally everyone. You know, 293 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:44.279 if it was my political party that was taking away funding, 294 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:47.319 I would be screaming, right, you know, I would be 295 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:50.480 screaming at my party. I would be you know, as 296 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.200 angry as I am with the New Jersey State Legislature 297 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:57.519 now for not codifying trans healthcare protections. But you know, 298 00:19:57.559 --> 00:19:59.440 we have that Speaker of the House, and you know 299 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:01.920 they are what they are obviously, even though they made 300 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:04.880 promises to us. So I would I, you know, just 301 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.759 like I am angry with those Democrats who are cowards 302 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:12.559 uh in the New Jersey State Legislature and and you know, uh, 303 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:15.160 it is what it is, I guess, and their word, 304 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:18.519 their word means very little at this point to me. 305 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:21.960 That's how angry I would be at my party if 306 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:24.400 you know they were responsible for DOSH and all of 307 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:28.720 the funding that was just ripped away. Yeah, yeah, ripped away. 308 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:31.759 So we'll see more of that's, not less of it 309 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:35.720 unless we get our act together moving on. I have 310 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:38.160 a lot of soap boxes today. I'm just saying, that's 311 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:44.519 all right. Bridget Bardeaux who turned into a right wing bigot, Yeah, 312 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:48.559 I guess maybe she wasn't biggo a. She advertised it 313 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:49.359 later on. 314 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.240 Which I did not realize until after she'd passed. 315 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:55.799 Yeah, I mean she was also an animal rights advocate. 316 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.400 But yeah, yeah, so a lot of people didn't. But 317 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:02.240 you know, I remember reading this way back. 318 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:05.119 Because I remember I was like, oh, Bridgitte Bordeaux died 319 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:07.400 and you were like and I was like what man, 320 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:08.599 That's how I found out. 321 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:13.720 She lost her mind. Yeah. She was ninety one, right, yeah, 322 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:20.599 ninety one. Yeah. Isaiah Whitlock, Isaiah Whitlock died. Yeah, he's 323 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:26.119 in so much. Yes, frequently frequently worked with Spike Lee. Yes, 324 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:31.039 and he was always in if you saw what's his name? 325 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:33.960 Now I'm losing it. The two actors are almost always 326 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.240 in the same film. Both in trem they were, but 327 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:42.079 you know they're yeah, Wendell, Wendell Peers, Wendell Pears. Yeah. 328 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:46.640 Frequently seen with Wendell Pearce was Isaiah Whitlock. He's they 329 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:48.519 do lific, wonderful actor. 330 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:50.279 They did spend a lot of time working. 331 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:54.160 Yeah, seriously, you saw one, you saw the other seventy one. 332 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:58.599 I always think of him in It was always in 333 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:02.359 a Spike Lee film, but most often in the film 334 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:05.319 Twenty fifth Hour, when his character would just go. 335 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:14.079 She that's him, yup. Oh yeah. Yeah. Iconic, just iconic 336 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:16.720 and such a talent and what a loss. 337 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:17.359 Yeah. 338 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:21.799 Carmen de Lava Loade passed. She did, I mean bound 339 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:26.079 to happen that made me very sad. Ninety four, Yes, 340 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:27.880 we should all have ninety four years. 341 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:33.039 Yes, and explain who she was. December thirtieth. Carmen de 342 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:41.880 Lavaadde she my god. Worked in theater and film and television. 343 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:47.839 She worked with Alvin Ailey and Lena Horn and Agnes 344 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:52.000 Demil and Harry Belafondi, Josephine Baker. She was married to 345 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:57.359 Jeffrey Holder, the iconic Jeffrey Holder. Like and we saw 346 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:02.359 a documentary of them a few years ago on Netflix. 347 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:03.079 It might still be that. 348 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:04.960 I don't know the name of it, but look their 349 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:08.880 names up and just talking about their life together, their 350 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:13.799 creative life together. And I did not realize how tall 351 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:17.279 Jeffrey Holder was compared to how small Carmen de Lava 352 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:19.759 LaDue was. So like when they would dance together, we 353 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.200 just like throw her around. Oh yeah, it was just 354 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:22.920 so lovely. 355 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:26.400 They were marriage for fifty nine years. Yeah. 356 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.359 And she had the most melodious name, Carmen de la Volte. 357 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:31.480 I just love saying her name. 358 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:35.559 Yep. She studied with Lester Horton. Yeah, in La she. 359 00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:38.200 Was one of the yes, like so many, she was 360 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:45.160 a foundational presence in the school of Horton Technique or 361 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.720 as most of us who have done it, I like 362 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:53.039 to call it Hurton Technique. But yeah, she was a 363 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:54.440 wonderful educator. 364 00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:59.640 She was just a American ballet theater, yes, dance theater 365 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.680 of chap you name it. 366 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:07.559 She's like just a major jewel in the crown of 367 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:12.720 dance and performance and the arts and art. Carmen de 368 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:16.119 la Bolague was she was that girl and then no 369 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:17.160 other way to say it. 370 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.799 She was just that girl. Yeah, lots and lots and 371 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:23.119 lots of work. What a what a what a body 372 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:27.599 of work? Yes? Yeah, rest in power. 373 00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:29.920 She is together again with her partner. 374 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:34.079 Yeah, that's that was a tribute I saw from a 375 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:37.640 lot a lot of dancers, you know, on social media saying, 376 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.039 you know, she is with her beloved jeff and. 377 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:45.640 Jeffrey Holder has He has a dance work called Douglas, 378 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.799 which I have decided is my favorite dance work period, 379 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:55.160 full stop. And every year for Christmas I watch it 380 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.920 as a present to myself, okay, because it's perfect. 381 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:00.000 It has all of the things. 382 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:05.440 So they were a fierce couple and they are together. 383 00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:06.240 Again, right. 384 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:14.160 Bruce Crawford, Yes, Bruce Crawford who was a Madison Avenue 385 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.039 like advertising powerhouse. 386 00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:27.359 He basically left advertising and went into managing the Metropolitan 387 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:34.559 Opera House and revitalized the Lincoln Center, basically creating the 388 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:41.440 foundation for so much wonderful and iconic art and performance 389 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:44.480 that we've enjoyed as as Americans. 390 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:51.359 It was ninety six, Yeah, yeah, ninety six. Hey, hey, 391 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:55.400 I you know ninety six and TK Carter. 392 00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:02.880 Yes, most recently TK Carter passed away. This was yesterday. 393 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:06.880 Yeah, it came out sixty nine. Young. Yeah, he was. 394 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:10.039 In Uh, he's been in so many things that I love. 395 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:13.640 Growing up, he was well, you showed me pictures of 396 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:17.440 him older, and I did not recognize just from those pictures. 397 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:19.200 I was having a hard time finding younger and I 398 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:20.319 saw pictures. 399 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:21.799 Of him young, and I know exactly who he was. 400 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:25.039 Yeah, he had that face. I loved him. 401 00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:27.839 And then he became recognizable in the other pictures, but 402 00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:30.279 I just didn't right, It didn't click right away. 403 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:32.519 He was a major character on the show Punky Brewster, 404 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.720 which is my introduction to him. Then I realized that 405 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:39.119 he was also in the original film The Thing, not 406 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:43.480 the Original Thing, the John Carpenter iconic movie The Thing, 407 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:50.559 and so many appearances in films and television, like I 408 00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:51.720 grew up with that man. 409 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:56.160 Basically sixty nine young. Yeah, do we know why or 410 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.440 how or has that not been really? I think last 411 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:01.079 I saw there was. 412 00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.319 No cause of death, not immediately disclosed, but foul play 413 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:10.200 is not expected, so right, yeah, so. 414 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:15.920 Yeah, they're the ones we wrote down. They've been dropping 415 00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:20.359 like for lots for real, We've got we do have 416 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:24.319 good news. Yes, despite the dumpster fire. I want to 417 00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:26.440 take a quick break before we get into it. Let's 418 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:29.480 take a break and we will come back with good news. 419 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:49.079 We'll be right back and we're back. 420 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.920 Queer back, good news, good news, good news. 421 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.279 All right. Amber Glynn is said to be the first 422 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:59.319 out queer woman on the US Olympic figure skating team. 423 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:01.440 Yes, I love that she. 424 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:07.119 Is a she identifies as pan sexual. Yes. American figure 425 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.200 skater made history at the twenty twenty six US Women's 426 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.680 Figure Skating Championships when she not only beat out her competition, 427 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.319 but secured a record breaking score that may land her 428 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.839 on the US Olympic team. Yes, she's puised to score 429 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:28.640 a spot on her first Olympic team. She is twenty six. 430 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.240 Which would make her the oldest US Olympic women's single 431 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:33.960 skater in nearly a century. 432 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:38.680 Oh damn, really old. Yeah. Wow. She came out in 433 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.920 twenty nineteen in an interview with The Dallas Voice after 434 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:49.400 she watched American ice dancer Karina Manta announced she is bisexual. Hey, 435 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.359 I did not expect it to blow up in the 436 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:54.440 way that it did. Yeah, well, we never do. I'm 437 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.240 grateful because they got my message out there. I was 438 00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.640 able to represent a lot of people that are in skating, 439 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:04.359 actually queer women. So we wish her success. 440 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.240 Maybe twenty six is old because that's around the time 441 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.359 when you joint start talking back to you, whether you 442 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:09.920 like it or not. 443 00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:12.559 Yeah, I mean because I guess when you think about 444 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:14.920 a lot of them, are you know, because they start 445 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:19.640 so young. Yeah yeah, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen nineteen, right, so. 446 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.480 They've probably been doing it like literally half their lives 447 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:23.279 by this point. 448 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:28.200 Right, Yeah, yeah, so ancient at twenty six. There you go. 449 00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:30.440 I think that's some shit. Go ahead. 450 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:35.319 I put this in Good News just because her response 451 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.480 brought me life. So the headline reads, AOC calls out 452 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:45.119 pervert Jesse Waters after an invite to his show. Quote, 453 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:46.920 he has sexually harassed me. 454 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.519 Jesse Waters, she got an invitation. Would like to invite 455 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:54.079 you on his show, the producer told her, asking if 456 00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:57.319 she'd consider making an appearance. He has sexualized me on 457 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.359 his show. He has sexually harassed me on his show. 458 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:05.240 She replied, he has engaged in horrific sexually exploitive rhetoric. 459 00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:09.240 The producer responded, that's not true. It is true, she 460 00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.400 snapped back, because he accused me of wanting to sleep 461 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.359 with Stephen Miller, So why don't you tell me what 462 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.599 you think is acceptable to tell a woman. 463 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.119 Yeah, the video is awesome because, like she was being 464 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.519 very matter of fact when she said that, she was like, 465 00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:28.000 you know, she said exactly what she said. He accused 466 00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:30.519 me of wanting to sleep with Steven Miller, and he 467 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.079 was and he looked at her, that's not true, in 468 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.880 that condescending way that they do. And she looked at him, 469 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:40.000 so why don't you tell me what you think is 470 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:41.920 acceptable to tell a woman? And then she gave him 471 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.960 that facial expression that like, I'm not gonna say you 472 00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.079 got it, bitch, Now leave me to fuck alone. But 473 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:50.400 that's what that look said, and then she turned and 474 00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.640 walked away and I just I love that woman so much. 475 00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:58.359 I mean, you know, in something, civility just isn't cutting 476 00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:02.160 it mm hm. You know, there there is no nuance 477 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:06.000 with these people anymore, there is no you know, And 478 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.839 she's refreshing and she's cutting through a lot of bullshit. 479 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:12.000 And that's one of the reasons so many people love her. 480 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:14.640 And that's one of the reasons why all these mediocre 481 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.119 as white men can't fucking stand of course, because of 482 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.720 course she threatens them, because she's smarter than them. She 483 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.160 actually knows and does her job. She can see right 484 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.200 through their bullshit. She calls them on it, and she's 485 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.799 cute and they have no chance with her, and they 486 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:36.039 know it. Like it's that perfect blend. 487 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:41.160 I love that shit, kind of love that because yeah 488 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:43.400 and good and good. 489 00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:44.480 I love her. 490 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:52.599 Yeah, she's kind of awesome, she really is. So yeah, 491 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.359 that is what's cutting through you know, some of this, 492 00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:58.440 Like it makes headlines. God knows that people writing for 493 00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.440 Gavin Newsomber are making all kinds of headlines. 494 00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.599 Right, And that's a narrative they always try to put 495 00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.079 on her, like she had to like sleep with someone 496 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.640 to get this, So she didn't sleep with someone, so 497 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:10.319 she didn't get that. 498 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.079 It's like, really though, yep, that's all we got, and 499 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:19.759 yet we have all these absolute incompetence whose only qualification 500 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:21.799 for that job? And I'm talking about the entire government 501 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.160 right now that Trump is appointed. You know, they're only 502 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:31.839 qualification is they're sick offense. That's it. That's it. Go 503 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:37.880 down the list, Attorney General, mayas you know Kennedy, Like, 504 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:42.200 these people are literally a joke and they're you know, 505 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:47.519 not representing this country in any meaningful good way, losing 506 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:48.920 goodwill around the world. 507 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:54.599 Not only and not only are their jokes, but they're 508 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:56.599 jokes that are proof that comedy is hard. 509 00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:01.200 Comedy is hard. Yeah, comedy is hard. But yeah, so 510 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:06.400 I find it refreshing when they just call it what 511 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:11.599 it is, which is another reason I love Zooran Mom. 512 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:15.559 Donnie Yes who is now officially the mayor as of 513 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:22.559 January first, he is kicking ass and taking names like 514 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:33.880 he's just bringing all these fabulous people into his employ. 515 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:33.920 Back when he was a state representative for the thirty 516 00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.599 sixth district, he backed the repeal of the walking while 517 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.160 trans law that was a disproportionately used to arrest transgender women. 518 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.799 He co sponsored the Gender Recognition Act, which made it 519 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.559 easier for trans and non binary people to legally change 520 00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:52.119 their gender and allow the gender neutral X option. He 521 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.200 also voted in favor of the state's Shield Law, which 522 00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:58.440 prevents patients and providers of gender firm and care in 523 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.160 the state from being prosecuted by other states. These are 524 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.440 the things we're trying to codify into law in the 525 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:06.880 state of New Jersey. By the way, yeah, yeah, if 526 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:11.239 if if our state legislature had a backbone and were 527 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:14.880 as blue as they actually are. But anyway, I digress. 528 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:21.079 While his campaign centered primarily on affordability, free buses, universal childcare, 529 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.840 city on grocery stores, and a rent freeze on rent 530 00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:29.440 stabilized apartments, he also has several policies aimed at protecting 531 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:34.360 and improving life for LGBTQ plus New Yorkers. And that 532 00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:36.039 was one of the things we loved, was, you know, 533 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.280 his advertising looking back at the history of queer rights 534 00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.880 in New York. Yeah, you know, and how important they 535 00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:44.280 were and who was there and and you know the 536 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.960 groundbreaking things that happened there, right. Yeah. 537 00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.960 He promises to make New York a refuge a sanctuary 538 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:57.400 city for LGBTQ plus people and recipients of gender firming care, YEP, 539 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.199 which would prevent the release of information or the arrest 540 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.800 and extradition of someone based on another state's court orders. 541 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:08.079 That's very important. Yeah, Queer and trance people across the 542 00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:11.559 United States are facing an increasingly hostile political environment. His 543 00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:15.039 platform states New York City must be a refuge for 544 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.679 lgbtqia plus people, but private institutions in our own city 545 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:25.400 have already started capitulating to Trump's assault on trans rights. Meanwhile, 546 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.519 the cost of living crisis confronting working class people across 547 00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:33.360 the city hits the lgbtqia plus community particularly hard, with 548 00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.480 higher rates of unemployment and homelessness than the rest of 549 00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.760 the city. Yeah, thank you, thank you. 550 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:47.400 It's hard enough surviving in New York just under regular circumstances, Joe. 551 00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.000 They've pledged to invest sixty five million in health care 552 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.760 facilities that provide gender firming care, which is protected for 553 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.760 all ages under state law, in an effort to prevent 554 00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:03.000 them from illegally withholding the care based on orders from 555 00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:06.719 a private institution operating with a quarter billion dollar public subsidies. 556 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.280 Should not have the ability to sell out young trans 557 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:13.079 New Yorkers to the Trump administration. Amen and amen. Right, 558 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.199 that's exactly what happened to when NYU Lango and decided 559 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:20.599 to stop providing gender firm and care for trans use. Yeah. 560 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.920 Bending soon after, other private and New York City hospitals 561 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.239 also stopped providing necessary life saving health care for trans use. 562 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:37.039 These decisions are in direct contradiction with New York state law. Yep. Yeah, good. 563 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:41.000 He's so clear. And that's what I loved that Bernie 564 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:47.480 Sanders swore him in. Yes, perfect, perfect, because that's the 565 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:51.320 thing I've always loved about Bernie is he cuts right 566 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.519 through it and explains things in a way that folks 567 00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.239 can understand. He tells it. It's not complicated because it 568 00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.119 doesn't have to be. Right. Know, the more rhetoric is involved, 569 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:06.360 the more someone is picking your pocket generally right, and 570 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:11.920 protecting their own interests over the greater interests. And you know, 571 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.679 he cuts through all of that, and so does so 572 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.880 does Mom, Donnie, and I love it. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, 573 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.519 it's a good day as far as I'm concerned in 574 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:27.320 New York City. He is speaking with a force that 575 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.920 I wish, you know, we had more New Jersey politicians 576 00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:35.159 speaking with well, because this is you know, we should 577 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.039 be leading here, and in some ways we do and 578 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.920 have in the past. But you know, all we got 579 00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.239 to do is take these executive orders and codify them. 580 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.159 It's it's all written out for you all. You just 581 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.320 got to get it out of committee and do what 582 00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:49.920 you said you were going to do. Right. I can't 583 00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.039 wait for them to ask me for a donation after 584 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.599 if this doesn't go into law, I can't wait for it. 585 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:56.800 Right. I love how he picked the trans rabbi for 586 00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:59.920 his transition team, Dine. 587 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.960 Yeah, brilliant, brilliant because we know, the more voices that 588 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:09.480 are involved, the better the policy that is created, the 589 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.679 more inclusive it is, you know, the more it takes 590 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:17.159 care of more people, more human beings. 591 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.960 Again, out Lesbian is the Fire Department commission. 592 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:22.000 I know, love that too. 593 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:27.280 It's like it's almost like he's surrounding himself with people 594 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:33.559 who are representative of the people who make up the city. 595 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.920 Of New York, New York. He is that is correct, 596 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.400 as it should as it should be, as it should be, 597 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.599 and and there is clarity and leadership there exactly. I'm 598 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.960 loving it so far and again, and here's the thing, 599 00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:53.880 here's the difference. If this this person winds up wrapped 600 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.960 in scandal, I'll be screaming about it too, right, Yeah, 601 00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:01.559 this is not some cult. This is you know, when 602 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:03.719 I see good government, I like to call it out. 603 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:06.840 But let me find out he's did once, you know 604 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.239 what I mean? Right? And and no, then all bets 605 00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.920 are off. That's how this is supposed to work. It's 606 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.400 like that whole thing with pristine files, old people accountable. Yeah, 607 00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:16.800 I don't give a shit whose name is all? They 608 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.639 burn him down, right, one of them. 609 00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:20.639 There might be Democrats and they're good. 610 00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:24.800 Okay, Well then to them, we should know about it, right, 611 00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:26.920 I mean, that's what you know when you look at 612 00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.559 some of the things that Al Franken stepped down because 613 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.480 of vague accusations. It was nothing. He was not convicted 614 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.559 of crimes like Trump, but he stepped away from being 615 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:38.519 a senator because. 616 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:39.400 It would have been a distraction. 617 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:43.760 But yeah, basically, and the JUDGB do, like we do, 618 00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:49.440 hold one another accountable, sometimes loudly and before all the 619 00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:53.920 facts are even in, because that's what good government and 620 00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.920 transparency is supposed to look like. Right, Unlike everything we're 621 00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:02.480 seeing right now, you know, the mud and the muck 622 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:07.440 and the absolute corruption is so gross and disgusting. Agreed. 623 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:10.400 You know, I just want to mention, you know, there 624 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.440 was there was an incident with the Christian uh Fuscuarana, 625 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.639 who ran Garden City quality ablely and well for for 626 00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:23.840 quite some time. Apparently, you know, it looks like kind 627 00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:25.840 of lost it a little bit with a foster child, 628 00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:31.760 smacked them or hit them. Something happened, and you know 629 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:38.199 it came to light. He resigned immediately. Uh you know 630 00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.639 the organization is, you know, really looking to have transparency 631 00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.599 and accountability at all the time. You know, immediately said 632 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:51.000 violence of any kind not okay, right, that's how we. 633 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.440 Do right, didn't cover it up, didn't say that's not 634 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:54.039 what happened. 635 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:58.800 Didn't say look over there point being how many parents. No, 636 00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.119 you know, there are moments where we just lose it. 637 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:04.519 There are moments, and it doesn't always result in physical violence, 638 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.639 of course, and should not we But I mean I 639 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.039 was raised with people who hit me randomly, and the 640 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.000 neighbors were allowed to fucking hit me. So yeah, yeah, 641 00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.679 anybody could smack you across them like that's just the 642 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.639 world we all grew up in. So but look at 643 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:26.519 the accountability we hold so often versus this no accountability. No, 644 00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:28.079 you know, when we're going to get into what just 645 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:33.719 happened in Minneapolis, it's upside down. It's so upside down. Yeah. 646 00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.320 You know, our friend Natalie is in London right now, 647 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.679 and I just saw a social media post this morning saying. 648 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:45.440 I'm not afraid here right right, Yeah, let's keep going. 649 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.280 This is good news. God damn it, where are we? 650 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:56.079 So this is from England, but apparently a pole comes 651 00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.320 out that shows that almost no one is complaining about 652 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.440 trans women and women's spaces. 653 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:03.639 That is true, right, that is true. 654 00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:09.880 It's a document. It's a manufactured controversy, not a documented crisis. Absolutely, 655 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.519 we've been fucking saying absolutely terfism. All of it is manufactured, 656 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.079 and it's making many CIS women less safe. 657 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:24.880 Yeah. If you know CIS women who are tend toward 658 00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:30.840 masculine or or don't you know, have this sense of femininity, 659 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.440 what am I trying to say? You know, are not 660 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:39.360 deemed idealized, ideal or acceptable are being harassed. They're paying 661 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:44.239 the price for this nonsense. Right, Yeah, No, nobody has 662 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.559 I mean, knock wood, but I've never had an issue 663 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.519 in a ladiess room never never, And and you know, 664 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:57.519 I don't know any trans women who are disrespectful in 665 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.760 those single se sex spaces. We dear God, we work 666 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:05.159 hard to be honored to be in them, do you 667 00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:09.440 know what I'm saying. Yeah, we go through a lot 668 00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:15.840 to access those spaces where we are safe, and you know, yeah, 669 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.639 So I mean, okay, we're doing we're doing these studies 670 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.239 anyway to prove what we've been, what we know is true. 671 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.079 So yeah, bringing on. Yeah. 672 00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.719 Data from hundreds of public bodies in England shows only 673 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:32.800 four complaints about transgender women and women's single sex spaces 674 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.079 over a period of three years. 675 00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:39.079 Right, and they were probably politically motivated TERFs Right. 676 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:44.480 It's according to advocacy group Translucent, as Scene mag reports. 677 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.039 This is from January third. 678 00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:50.000 The organization released the results of six separate investigations conducted 679 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.320 in recent years between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four, 680 00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:59.320 and this is including hospitals, domestic violent shelters, local authorities 681 00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:03.000 that maintain pub restrooms and changing facilities to see how 682 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:05.719 many official complaints about trans women and women only spaces 683 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:11.360 have been documented, and the investigation specifically examined whether cisgender women, 684 00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:15.400 patients or service users had formally objected to sharing spaces 685 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:18.360 with trans women, and so in that whole time. 686 00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:25.880 Four right, four right? So I know, yeah, across local 687 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.280 authority toilets, hospital wards, and domestic abuse refuges, the evidence 688 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.440 demonstrates the political and media rhetoric about trans women threatening 689 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:39.239 women in single sex spaces is unsupported Yeah, by actual complaints. 690 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:42.239 No shit, I mean, you know the downsiders, are they 691 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.760 going to start trying to make more complaints to manufacture 692 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:48.039 more stuff? But you know, truth always comes to light. 693 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:49.960 The truth always comes to light. The ship that they 694 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:55.840 manufacture gets shown for what it is almost always right. 695 00:44:56.599 --> 00:45:00.679 Of forty usable responses from authorities that maintain public toilets 696 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.800 and changing facilities at public pools and leisure centers, Translucent 697 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:08.440 found no reported complaints about trans women in twenty twenty two. 698 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:12.239 In twenty twenty four, the organization found only two complaints 699 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:16.760 documented by the forty seven authorities they surveyed, one about policy, 700 00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:22.360 one based on perception rather than confirmed identity. So that's 701 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.760 what I'm talking about, right, You know, they perceive someone 702 00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:30.159 as trans and start shit, not because the person is 703 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.480 doing anything but existing, right when it came to hospital wards. 704 00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:39.039 FOI requests to one hundred and two found an EHS 705 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.159 Foundation trust between April twenty twenty and June twenty twenty 706 00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.559 two turned up no complaints from cis gender women patients 707 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:49.840 about the presence of a trans woman on their ward. Subsequently, 708 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:53.559 out of one hundred and fifty seven substitutive responses from 709 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:57.440 NHS trusts to a December twenty twenty three survey, only 710 00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:01.039 one reported an incident that was not true. It is serious, 711 00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:05.639 according to the report. As for domestic abuse refuges, they 712 00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.559 note that a May twenty twenty four Women's Aid survey 713 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:13.400 on single sex services and policies received only a twenty 714 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:17.480 three point seven percent response rate, suggesting a lack of 715 00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:21.679 a problem. The group's own research, according to the report, 716 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:26.960 has found that the domestic abuse refuge sectors established risk 717 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:33.239 assessment procedures. Mixed models combining communal refuges with independent living models, 718 00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:38.119 and national placement systems enable services to accommodate trans women 719 00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:43.920 without compromising other residents' safety. Whatever that means. They as 720 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.079 if they would, but you know, I mean in the 721 00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.800 same way that the organization I worked for generally housed 722 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.559 trans women in the private rooms when possible. Okay, I'd 723 00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:56.880 rather have a private room, thanks, right, But claims of 724 00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:01.000 trans women invading refuges are contradicted by sector practices, which 725 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:05.400 focus on individual risk assessment rather than blanket exclusions. Where 726 00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:10.400 exclusion occurs, it typically reflects the stance of explicitly trans 727 00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.639 hostile providers, rather than any pattern of problematic behavior by 728 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:20.960 trans women seeking refuge from violence. Exactly. Yeah, they talked 729 00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:23.239 to a whole lot of people. This was pretty exhaustive. 730 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:28.639 It's a manufactured controversy, not a documented crisis, which is 731 00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:32.079 what we keep saying. What we keep saying, We just 732 00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.760 want to exist, right, Just leave us alone. You don't 733 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.159 you know, you may never understand me. I don't actually 734 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.239 give a fuck. Leave me alone. It doesn't I'm leaving 735 00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:45.920 you alone. Leave me alone. Right, Yeah, So what else 736 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.480 we got? Interestingly, the former New York City mayor Eric 737 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.320 Adams gave trans people a huge gift just before he 738 00:47:54.400 --> 00:48:01.199 left office. This was, you know, tried to cozy up 739 00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:06.719 to the Trump administration and denounced trans students using city 740 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:11.760 public school bathrooms, et cetera. But he allocated two million 741 00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:15.760 dollars in emergency funds to trans organizations suffering in the 742 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.559 wake of sweeping federal aid cuts. Right on his way 743 00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.840 out the door, his final day and office was December 744 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:28.440 thirty first, And you know what, cool, right, that was 745 00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:29.039 kind of cool. 746 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.079 It's a lot better than what the CIS has normally 747 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:32.039 do when the way out the door. 748 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.880 We saw a need after federal budget cuts, and we 749 00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:41.039 are responding to it. Randy Mastro, first Deputy mayor for Adams, 750 00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:45.199 said the City Sealth Department will administer the emergency funds 751 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:48.639 up to ninety two thousand awarded to each of roughly 752 00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:54.000 twenty community based organizations. They must be trans gender, nonconforming 753 00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.719 or non binary the applicants, and the money will go 754 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.960 to nonprofits offering healthcare, housing, legal advocacy, community building, and 755 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:08.920 crisis response services. Nice yeah, nice, Yeah. I mean he 756 00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:12.960 did some some messed up stuff, but all right, I'll 757 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:16.360 take it as a parting gift, right, yeah, I mean 758 00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.440 he he was kind of all over the place with things. 759 00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:23.360 But you know, in the end, good because that's what 760 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:25.920 needs to happen wherever possible is we've got to make 761 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:31.559 up for federal funds lost, you know, right until we 762 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:35.840 have the same government again, if that ever happens fingers cross, 763 00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:41.440 fingers crossed because Jesus dear one, Rachel Harlowe was profiled 764 00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:48.719 in the Inquirer. I did think we mentioned this, but anyway, we. 765 00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.960 Mentioned that it was coming okay that we saw her 766 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.119 when yeah, we ran into Rachel. 767 00:49:54.280 --> 00:50:01.719 So Rachel, good God. She's an icon in Philadelphia. She's 768 00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:05.519 a trans woman who is just a very well known 769 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:10.079 in Philadelphia with a very storied life profiled in the 770 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:17.360 film The Queen, the documentary where she famously won that 771 00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:22.239 competition as a young person, and you know, she went 772 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:26.480 on to just be very well known, very famously had 773 00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:30.800 an affair with Jack Kelly, Grace Kelly's brother that is 774 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:34.480 apparently being profile being that story is being told in 775 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.119 a movie, yes, that they're working on now. There's a 776 00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:40.840 book coming out, And they did a profile in The 777 00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.159 Inquirre talking about her life and it was really well done. 778 00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:48.400 Worth looking for. Yeah, good to see and it really 779 00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:53.000 kind of points to she was very well known in 780 00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:56.840 Philadelphia and loved, ye beloved. You know, she had a 781 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.800 really cool nightclub and people went to find her and 782 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.440 her and be around her, and she was glamorous and 783 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:09.199 she was you know all that and that was back then, right, 784 00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:14.920 you know, back then she was an it girl. Yeah, 785 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:18.280 And and absolutely was you know, what we would refer 786 00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:23.400 to as a doll god. But beyond that was you know, 787 00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:26.960 if you talk to trans elders, at least in Philadelphia, 788 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:29.159 I'll tell you, in some ways it was better then. 789 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:33.719 I mean, you know, more about being ignored than about 790 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:39.039 being harassed. And certainly nobody was making policy against us, right, 791 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.960 you know, and and and lying about. 792 00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:43.800 Us worst case scenario, nobody was talking. 793 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.800 They left us alone, you know, as freaks. But whatever, 794 00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.960 but not always. And again she was, you know, an 795 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:58.320 example of someone who really was well known and well loved. 796 00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:02.400 She's lived quietly now for a number of years, but 797 00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.440 we do run into fairly often in the city, and 798 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.239 it was good to see it because we did run 799 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:10.559 into the day that they did the photo shoot for 800 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:13.360 the Inquire story. It came out. It's great, it's worth reading. 801 00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.320 Yeah, we'll link to it in the show notes. 802 00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:22.639 Yes please. A federal judge blocked a gender affirming care 803 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.679 ban for trans inmates in Georgia that has been in 804 00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:30.000 effect for several months. Judge Victoria Calvert agreed with the 805 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:33.440 plaintiffs that the blanket band violated these Amendment, which bars 806 00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:37.800 cruel and unusual punishment. Right, this is as it should be. 807 00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:41.920 So many of us have been working for and on 808 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:50.239 behalf of incarcerated trans women who were seldom treated with 809 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:56.480 respect or human and as humans. Well exactly, the court 810 00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:00.199 finds that there is no genuine dispute a fact that 811 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:06.320 gender dysury is a serious medical need. Plaintiffs, through their experts, 812 00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:11.199 remember those, have presented evidence that a blanket ban on 813 00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:16.159 hormone therapy constitutes grossly inadequate care for gender dysphoya and 814 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:21.599 risks imminent injury. No shit. Of course, the bill was 815 00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:26.159 signed into law by Governor Brian Kemp, a Republican, obviously 816 00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:30.119 prohibiting state funds and resources from being used to provide 817 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:34.119 gender firming care to inmates injured to prisons. That even 818 00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.480 includes HRT, as well as sexual assignment surgeries or any 819 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:41.000 other surgical procedures that are performed for the purpose of 820 00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:46.760 altering primary or secondary sexual characteristics, and even cosmetic procedures 821 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:51.519 or prosthetics intended to alter the appearance of primary second 822 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:58.800 sexual characteristics. They're so ignorant. Yeah, yeah. Five plaintiffs filed 823 00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:01.719 a lawsuit in August after it took effect in July, 824 00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:05.719 arguing that it constituted cruel and unusual punishment, which is 825 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:09.760 absolutely true. It also claimed it violated the Equal Protection Clause, 826 00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:12.880 which it does. Oh and by the way, HRT and 827 00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.280 other gender firming care treatments were not banned under the 828 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.679 bill for all inmates, only those who were trans. Of course, 829 00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.480 it also prohibited them from paying for the care themselves 830 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.639 while they were incarcerated, so they couldn't even have access 831 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:31.199 even if they paid for it. That is cool and unusual. 832 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:34.639 We would never allow a state to decide that people 833 00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:38.280 in prison with diabetes should be cut off of insulin 834 00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.280 just because the state didn't want to pay for it anymore, 835 00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:44.880 said Celine Zoo, a staff attorney for the Center for 836 00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:48.760 Constitutional Rights, which is representing the plaintiffs. So why would 837 00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.440 we allow Georgia to cut off medically required care for 838 00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:56.159 people with a similarly serious diagnosis of gender dysphoria? Thank 839 00:54:56.199 --> 00:55:00.840 you Yeah, it was a blanket ban override the opinions 840 00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:05.840 of judges and doctors and even the Georgia Department of Corrections, 841 00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:09.559 all of whom previously acknowledged that gender affirming care is 842 00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:15.119 medically necessary for incarcerated trans people. Damn it. Yes and amen. 843 00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.239 You know the judge's ruling makes it clear not every 844 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.119 inmate is entitled to gender firming care, but it puts 845 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.760 those decisions back in the hands of medical professionals and 846 00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:29.400 the patients, rather than having the legislature make medical decisions 847 00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:34.559 for trans people. Thank you, thank you. Right, yeah and good. 848 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:38.039 Of course the Department of Corrections filed a notice of appeal, 849 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:41.519 So I guess we'll say, I guess we'll say where 850 00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:44.360 it all lands. But yeah, we do know that it 851 00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:48.679 is life saving and it is cruel inhuman to deny 852 00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:55.119 that care. Indeed, just because someone is incarcerated so accounted 853 00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:58.719 as a woman and accounted as good news. Definitely. Yeah. 854 00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.559 There was a lot suit in Ohio and November. At 855 00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:05.920 the end of November, gay student sues Catholic school for 856 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:10.719 failing to stop bullying. The lawsuit alleges administrators failed to 857 00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:15.079 stop football players from harassing him on campus and off. 858 00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:18.320 A gay former student at a Catholic high school has 859 00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:22.519 filed a federal lawsuit accusing administrators of ignoring relentless bullying 860 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.719 and harassment by members of the school's storied football team. 861 00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:30.199 The lawsuit filed by a student identified as grandson Rudolph 862 00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:35.840 and his legal guardian, grandmother. Rudolph, alleges that administrators shielded 863 00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:40.199 football players from discipline, prioritizing their protection over the safety 864 00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:43.199 of other students. Filed in U S District Court for 865 00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:47.440 the Northern District of Ohio, the suit names Ursuline High 866 00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:51.679 School Assistant Principal Margaret de Moore and the Catholic Diocese 867 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:57.920 of Youngstown as defendants. I wholeheartedly believe that happened. Yeah. 868 00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:00.719 He was an now gay freshman during the two three 869 00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:04.760 twenty four school year. He endured daily abuse from football players, 870 00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:08.760 including homophobic slurs, physical intimidation, having food thrown at him 871 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.280 hard enough to leave a visible red mark, and the 872 00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:15.400 mistreatment continued beyond school grounds. Yep. Andy was a freshman 873 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:17.920 she yep. The filing also a llegis at a religious 874 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:21.400 education teacher, Nanette Jacobs, joined in the abuse by making 875 00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:24.719 comments about the student's appearance. I believe that too. Oh yeah. 876 00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:28.119 Other teachers witnessed the behavior but took no meaningful action 877 00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:31.800 to stop it despite his multiple complaints. Yes, I believe 878 00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:34.960 that too. Been there, been there, same Yeah, and I 879 00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.119 wasn't out as anything you couldn't be out when I 880 00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:41.400 was in school. It was just the idea of yep, 881 00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:44.880 which is what we're returning back to by celebrating all. 882 00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.119 You know what I mean? This is like I said, 883 00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:50.280 I have seen this movie so many times. Uh huh, 884 00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:56.000 as have you? Yep? Yeah. The grandmother made twenty calls 885 00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:59.039 to the school over an eleven week span without any resolution. 886 00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:04.440 One reported incident Adam McDonald's involved football players mocking both 887 00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:08.000 the student and his grandmother. Yep. When she brought the 888 00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:11.559 incident to school staff, including head football coach Daniel Reardon, 889 00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:18.000 she was met with hostility and received no help. Wow. Yeah. 890 00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:20.960 As a result of an ongoing abuse and the schools 891 00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:25.159 in action, the grandson transferred to another school. He is 892 00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:28.880 now and weekly counseling, expected to continue receiving mental health support. 893 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:33.199 Good good, I wish I had. Then the school declined 894 00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:35.960 a comment citing the pending lawsuit. Of course they did. 895 00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:40.679 It's the third federal lawsuit accusing this high school and 896 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:45.840 several administrators and coaches of ignoring repeated reports of bullying, harassment, 897 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:46.519 and assault. 898 00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:52.960 Shocker third yeah, yeah, I'm not shah. 899 00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:57.119 There is an attorney representing all three plaintiffs. Says additional 900 00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:01.519 lawsuits may be filed as more victims and witnesses come forward. 901 00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:05.800 Get them you know what, Yeah, because money seems to 902 00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:09.559 be the only thing they understand period. But you know 903 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:14.920 it does leave them work god growing, you. 904 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:18.519 Know, because literal and figuratively. 905 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:25.039 Exactly, because the idea is you deserve to be treated 906 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:29.000 this way because of who you are, and as if 907 00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:31.199 we choose to be who we are, as if like, 908 00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:35.320 this is absolutely a choice that this person is. Okay, 909 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:38.840 the only difference is, you know, we, as queer people, 910 00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:42.840 said it was important to come out, and so as 911 00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.440 kids come out early and earlier, it is our job 912 00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:48.199 to protect them wherever and whenever we can, because yep, 913 00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:50.400 we said it would be safe. We thought it would 914 00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:52.840 by now. We thought this would be a better world 915 00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:56.880 for you know, teens. For five minutes it felt like 916 00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:00.679 it was going now way, yeah, it did, it did. 917 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.719 But you know, that's why it's really important to keep going. 918 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:07.280 That's why I mentioned that particular story because it's important 919 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.719 and good, good, keep coming forward, keep shining a light 920 01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:12.280 on you know, the bullies. 921 01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:17.880 I kind of want to talk about the the trans 922 01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:19.960 woman who recorded her surgeons. 923 01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:24.679 Yes, let's do that. This was early in December, the 924 01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:27.880 story broke about a trans woman who secretly recorded her 925 01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:32.800 doctor during cancer surgery. This story, I love the story. 926 01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:37.280 Jennifer Capasso has endured a lot of hate while undergoing 927 01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.760 care at one of the world's best cancer hospitals. She 928 01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:43.519 is a forty two year old transgender woman with stage 929 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:47.800 four rectal cancer. She filed a discrimination lawsuit against the 930 01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.880 Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York City after 931 01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:56.599 she secretly recorded her surgical team allegedly making transphoba comments 932 01:00:56.599 --> 01:01:00.559 about her. Of course, they denied her accusations and said 933 01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:06.360 her recording violated worker privacy. Excuse me, yeah, so let's 934 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:10.000 not talk about the behavior, right yeah. Operating room staff 935 01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:14.119 preparing to remove her malignant lung tumor said that she 936 01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:17.519 had man parts, referring to her and her trans partner 937 01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:21.000 as men, and said that being trans was not right 938 01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.800 and doesn't make sense. According to The New York. 939 01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:25.559 Times, how the fuck did y'all get this job? 940 01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:32.239 I know, she said. During the March seventh procedure, an 941 01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:37.199 operating room nurse told a hospital administrator to change Capasa's 942 01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:40.440 sex and her patient records from female to male. She 943 01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:44.280 said this incorrect gender designation remained on her medical records 944 01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:48.719 until last January. She recorded the alleged comments through her phone, 945 01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.920 which she placed in a nearby handbag during the procedure. 946 01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:56.800 She also claimed that her co rectal surgeon misgendered her 947 01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:01.519 during a June twenty twenty one procedure. Surgeon's behavior made 948 01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:07.159 her feel unsafe and humiliated with heightened gender dysphoria. If true, 949 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:11.920 the hospital's actions would violate New York City's LGBTQ Healthcare 950 01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.920 Bill of Rights, which requires healthcare workers to recognize a 951 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:20.199 firm and document a patient's designated name and pronounce in 952 01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:28.159 medical records. The lawyer's claim the recording was largely inaudible, 953 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:31.800 making it impossible to ascertain the speakers or the full 954 01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.960 context of their discussion. This is the lawyer speak. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 955 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.559 This is a lawyer speak. The secret recording captured portions 956 01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:43.239 of a discussion that occurred during surgery while plaintiff was 957 01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:48.360 under anesthesia, in which staff members discussed plaintiff's transgender status, 958 01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:52.719 with every reasonable expectation that plaintiffs would not hear the. 959 01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:57.440 Discussion, right, It's not possible to hear who's speaking, you know, 960 01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:01.800 one in her because she's under anesthesia, So anybody else 961 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:02.239 in the. 962 01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:06.800 Room reasonable expectators. So because she couldn't hear them, it 963 01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.559 was okay for them to be assholes and say whatever 964 01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:12.400 they want to say. Huh. A third of trans people 965 01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:16.000 reported negative experiences with health care providers, including verbal harassment 966 01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:20.239 or a refusal of care, according to the twenty fifteen 967 01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:25.239 US Transgender Survey. A twenty nineteen study in the Journal 968 01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.599 of Clinical Oncology found eighty three percent of oncologists said 969 01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:31.880 they wanted to learn more about caring for transpatients. Only 970 01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.800 thirty seven percent felt they knew enough to adequately care 971 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:39.519 for trans people as whole. Agreed. Cabasa said she continues 972 01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:41.719 to receive care there because it's one of the world's 973 01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:44.679 best cancer hospitals. And I don't blame her, and I 974 01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.960 get it, but why do we have to be humiliated 975 01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:51.000 in the process that part? You were healthcare workers. You know, 976 01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:56.000 if anyone should know and have access to information, it 977 01:03:56.039 --> 01:04:00.440 is a healthcare professional. First, do no harm? Right, Well, 978 01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:02.960 they weren't doing harm because she was you know, she 979 01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:06.039 was under so I and you were doing harm to 980 01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:08.719 everyone in the room because that's what you support. And 981 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.719 everyone there who didn't correct you when you were saying 982 01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:13.800 you're ugly shit right, you're all complicit. 983 01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:16.760 So I had multiple feelings about this, and I talked 984 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:18.360 to you about this when I put this on here, 985 01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:21.920 and I wanted to save it for the podcast. So 986 01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:26.519 I love that she was smart enough to do this, 987 01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:31.679 to put a recorder in her purse. And I guess 988 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:36.199 the lizard part of my brain is like, damn. Part 989 01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:40.039 of me wishes that we as the public didn't know 990 01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:45.599 about this, only because I would love for more people 991 01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:48.599 to do this so we could find out a whider, 992 01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:52.960 like a whier swath of what is going on in 993 01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:54.000 the operating room. 994 01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:56.559 Okay, well yeah you said that, and I was like, 995 01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:00.400 what the fuck, dude, Well, only because she's got stage 996 01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:05.960 four cancer, you know, her staying quiet only nothing happens. 997 01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:06.920 If nothing happens. 998 01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:10.880 I'm not saying I stay quiet. I'm saying, my whole thing. 999 01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:12.920 I still record the shit. They can still do it. 1000 01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:16.599 My whole thing is now I'm not saying don't record. 1001 01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:19.840 I'm just saying, like, part of me is like, now 1002 01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:22.800 that it's public that she did this, they're going to 1003 01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:26.239 start covering their tracks more and before more people can 1004 01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:26.920 get to do. 1005 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:31.239 This, maybe I doubt it. You're assuming they'll put effort 1006 01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:35.920 unto it. This is true, they don't. They refuse us 1007 01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.440 care at the door, Charles. In many places in this 1008 01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:41.400 country they just flat out won't take care of us, 1009 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.760 and in states in this Union they're allowed to do that. 1010 01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:48.000 It's yeah, we don't go to Florida because I would 1011 01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:50.800 like the EMTs to have to like resuscitate me. 1012 01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:53.320 I just want more of these people to get caught 1013 01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:55.239 with their pants down on this ship, is all I'm saying. 1014 01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:57.559 Well, I think that that could happen, and this may 1015 01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.440 be the start of that. And I want this to 1016 01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.960 put a chill up their spines. Definitely. I want them 1017 01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:07.119 to think twice about the ways they talk about us 1018 01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:10.400 in providing US healthcare. I want more education out there 1019 01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:13.760 because if anyone, I mean, you know, and I am 1020 01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:19.719 spoiled because I finally got gender affirming care and found 1021 01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:24.679 out what it could be right to be respected, to 1022 01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:27.920 be treated with dignity in a medical office, to be 1023 01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:31.159 taken care of. I don't have all the horror stories, 1024 01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:35.280 but boy do my friends, Boy do they have horror 1025 01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:39.360 stories of being misgendered, of being made the brunt of 1026 01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:43.119 a joke in a medical office, of having to fight 1027 01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:45.719 with the insurance companies over and over and over again 1028 01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:48.559 because they have the correct gender marker, but then they 1029 01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:52.239 can't get the correct care for their bodies, right, because 1030 01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:54.480 we hold to the letter of it, not the spirit. 1031 01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:59.400 So I'm perfectly good with this coming to light, and 1032 01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:02.119 I think it's in and it came to light at 1033 01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:06.119 a prestigious hospital where maybe they'll fucking do something about it. 1034 01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:09.519 Maybe they'll do something. I mean, I hear, I see 1035 01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:13.360 what their lawyers are already doing, and it's just it's repugnant, right, 1036 01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:17.239 Instead of saying, boy, this is a chance for education, boy, 1037 01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.559 we need to really address this when you talk about 1038 01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:23.800 what respect looks like and keep your shit to yourself 1039 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.599 and provide medical care. That's what you're there to do. Period. 1040 01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:27.280 No. 1041 01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:35.519 I understood what you're saying, but it doesn't look at 1042 01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:38.480 the larger picture. You're saying, there's a larger picture, and 1043 01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.719 we would gather more evidence. We already have the evidence. 1044 01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:44.599 We live the evidence every fucking day. We know what's happening. 1045 01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:47.800 I don't care if it's called once or a hundred times. 1046 01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:51.840 It's unlikely to make a big difference, but I'd rather 1047 01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:55.840 see it brought to light fair than not when policy 1048 01:07:55.880 --> 01:08:00.280 is going in the opposite direction. And even states like 1049 01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:03.679 New Jersey refused to codify executive orders into law like 1050 01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:09.599 they promised. Well, you know, even in those situations, right, 1051 01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:12.519 it's not getting better. It's in so many ways it's 1052 01:08:12.559 --> 01:08:15.440 getting worse because they're they're trying to make it law 1053 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:21.319 against all decency, humanity, and common sense to mistreat us. 1054 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:23.920 This makes it a little bit black and white, like 1055 01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:26.840 are you okay with this? Really? Is this okay? Right? 1056 01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:28.920 They're talking about me this way? What are they saying 1057 01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:33.640 about you while you're under well m And wouldn't it 1058 01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:37.319 be interesting if some sists people started doing it right? 1059 01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:42.319 It's you know, it's it's not okay, and it's disrespectful 1060 01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:46.159 and we need to treat one another better. I'm you 1061 01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:50.039 know she I'm I'm glad she came forward. 1062 01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:51.479 I mean, I am too. 1063 01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:58.079 And of course this benefits if anyone folks in the future, 1064 01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:02.039 more than it ever benefits are right, because she's got 1065 01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:06.159 to listen to lawyers, you know, critique her and say, 1066 01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.199 you know, how she was wrong and all this other bullshit. 1067 01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:11.600 I think it was brilliant the problem. 1068 01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:14.640 I think it was brilliant for to do it so 1069 01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:18.760 because you can tell when things are going and maybe 1070 01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:21.399 they're they're at least a little more afraid of her now, 1071 01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:25.439 you know, as they should be. Just provide the care without. 1072 01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:26.960 We don't need the commentary. 1073 01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:30.479 No one does, No one fucking does. 1074 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:55.079 Right, let's take a break and we'll be right back. Okay, 1075 01:09:56.039 --> 01:10:01.319 and we are back. We're back. It's time were our 1076 01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:09.640 favorite segment, which we like to call people taking pleasure. 1077 01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:15.600 And so I'll let you start this off because I 1078 01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:20.119 think you take more joy even than I do. Chaw. 1079 01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:29.159 So this just came out last week, uh famously ex gay. 1080 01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:31.640 There is no such thing as an X gay. Just 1081 01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:35.840 let's just yeah, that's that's why. That's what you're going 1082 01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:42.680 to see, a unicorn literally walking down Hollywood Boulevard before 1083 01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.680 you see someone who's actually before you find yes, an 1084 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:46.159 ex gay. 1085 01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:49.920 So Donnie m practicing yes. 1086 01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:53.600 Okay, and quietly practicing gays like this. 1087 01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:58.119 One, Donnie McClerkin who thinks considers himself to be an 1088 01:10:58.159 --> 01:10:58.760 ex gay. 1089 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.640 Well, that's what that's what she's trying to sell. 1090 01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:08.920 Anyway exactly was recently accused of sexual assault by another. 1091 01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.079 Man, sexually assaulting yet another man. 1092 01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:13.199 Yes, mm hmm. 1093 01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:20.600 The gentleman in questions name is Giseppe Corletto, who said 1094 01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:26.079 that McClerkin groped and raped him. McClerkin denies the allegation. 1095 01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:30.000 Of course he does in the name of Jesus right, 1096 01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:33.800 So of course we are not taking pleasure in the 1097 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:37.399 fact that this man was assaulted at all. 1098 01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:41.840 But the whole point being. Donnie McClurkin has spent so 1099 01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:47.319 much of his career as a preacher preaching about the 1100 01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:53.000 virtues of praying away the gayness, which is not a 1101 01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:56.479 thing never has worked. In fact, I was so upset 1102 01:11:56.520 --> 01:11:58.359 to find out that the one song of his that 1103 01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:01.640 I like, we fall down, that's what it's about. You 1104 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:03.680 fall down, we get up a saying is just a 1105 01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:07.199 sinner who fell down, then got up and then got 1106 01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:08.079 on his knees again. 1107 01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:13.920 Wait, my bad, you know uh I this this just 1108 01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:20.279 reminds me of something our friend Lisa reposted from Them, 1109 01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:26.239 where gospel singer Yolanda Adams said of LGBTQ plus people, 1110 01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:30.560 God is not surprised by anyone He created yep. I 1111 01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:34.800 just saw thank you, yeah, thank you, and she said, yes, yes, yes. 1112 01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:37.840 I don't understand why people can't just get this through 1113 01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:39.600 their heads. She was at our wedding, by the way. 1114 01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:42.399 Uh huh, what the thank you? But I'm just I 1115 01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:45.239 just saw that this morning, and it's like the contrast 1116 01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:48.640 between this and McClerkin saying, yeah, you can pray it away. 1117 01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:51.199 It's satan, No, honey, it's not. 1118 01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:55.359 Yeah. So, Corletto said. He was twenty one when he 1119 01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:58.479 first attended services at mclerkin's church on Long Island in 1120 01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:03.000 two thousand and three. He was motivated by reading mcclerkin's autobiography, 1121 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.600 in which the singer said his religious faith helped him 1122 01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:10.159 overcome the quote unquote curse of being gay. Yepes At 1123 01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:13.880 the service, mclerkin quote talked about being raped as a child, 1124 01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:17.760 which resonated with me because that's similar to my story, 1125 01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:22.840 corletto said. McClerkin claimed the abuse made him gay. Corletto 1126 01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:26.279 met McClerkin after the event, and the two became friends. 1127 01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:31.159 McClerkin hired him as his assistant. H Corletto first saw 1128 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:35.199 McClerkin as a mentor. Mm hmm, here we go. But 1129 01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:39.319 soon McClerkin began to grope Corletto as they prayed together 1130 01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:42.520 for Corletto to be cured of homosexuality. 1131 01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:45.319 I have read this book. 1132 01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:49.920 God couldn't even get through the prayer for Jesus to 1133 01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:53.960 take it away, as it supposedly already did him before 1134 01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:55.800 he starts being all homosexual. 1135 01:13:55.880 --> 01:14:01.119 It also occurred during services at his Acting Faith church, 1136 01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:10.279 according to the suit, and he further religes McClerkin raped him. Yeah. Ah, hey, 1137 01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:15.000 I'm not surprised, because you know, a lot of shit 1138 01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:19.319 happens with all of this repression right just look around people, 1139 01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:22.880 my god. Corletta tried to quit his job, but mcclarkin 1140 01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:26.600 used guilt to persuade him to stay. He finally took 1141 01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:28.720 a position with an airline in two thousand and eight. 1142 01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:34.199 Mclarkin continued to contact him and in twenty thirteen sexually 1143 01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:38.239 assaulted him in a hotel room in Niagara Falls. Allegedly 1144 01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:42.000 right after that the city ledges. Mclarkin sent Corletto an 1145 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:44.479 email saying, I am the actual epitome of a desperate, 1146 01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:47.279 dirty old man pawning and groping a young man who 1147 01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:51.319 is just looking for a friendship and close plutonic, platonic 1148 01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:55.399 relationship with someone he wants looks too for help, guidance 1149 01:14:55.399 --> 01:15:01.960 and spirituality. Uh huh. He attempted to take his life 1150 01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:06.520 after the incident, then returned to mcclarkin's church for a 1151 01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:10.359 brief period. He soon decided to cut mcclarkin out of 1152 01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:15.079 his life good. He discovered the twenty thirteen email last year, 1153 01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:17.720 and that convinced him. I didn't make this up. I 1154 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:21.960 wasn't crazy. I felt vindicated in some ways. He's literally 1155 01:15:22.039 --> 01:15:25.520 admitting to his guilt. He has now embraced his sexuality 1156 01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:31.600 and stopped trying to change it. Good for you, His 1157 01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:35.199 lawyer said. Mcclarkin took advantage of his client who was 1158 01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:39.000 confused and had problems accepting his sexuality coupled with his 1159 01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:42.880 religious beliefs. And that's what they feed on. By claiming 1160 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:47.279 that they're not that anymore, that's what they feed on. 1161 01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:51.239 It doesn't work that way, Yeah, And of course his 1162 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:58.840 attorney is denying it all. They grossly mischaracterized interactions which occurred. Yeah. 1163 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:04.920 So I am glad that this person has accepted themselves 1164 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:09.560 as they are. I hope that they can find some 1165 01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:14.399 peace after what had happened to him, and I just 1166 01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:18.439 need Donny McClerkin to like do the same for himself, 1167 01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:23.800 because it's not cute, you know, it was. It's one 1168 01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:27.039 thing when you were just lying to yourself and acting 1169 01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:29.520 like we can't see you, But now you're harmed. You're 1170 01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:33.920 directly harming other people and we see that too, And 1171 01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:35.760 now you're going to have to come up off some 1172 01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:37.399 money and possibly. 1173 01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:37.680 Go to jail. 1174 01:16:38.279 --> 01:16:43.399 Hey, hey, if God don't make no mistakes. 1175 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:48.359 Then you being gay is right on, Brian hun. But 1176 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:53.239 you know, when it's not bad. The self loathing is 1177 01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:56.479 bad enough. God knows and runs so deeply in our communities. 1178 01:16:57.159 --> 01:17:02.520 That's bad enough. But then when what is vile beyond 1179 01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:08.159 words is taking that and realizing you can turn a 1180 01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:15.159 profit with it, yep, realizing that you can create victims, yep, 1181 01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:19.640 that you know you can? Yeah, fuck around, And it 1182 01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:22.319 all is rooted in self loathing. It all is rooted 1183 01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:29.079 in you know, ridiculous attitudes about homosexuality and about you know, femininity, 1184 01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:33.640 all the things, all the things, and looks like a 1185 01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:36.199 chicken coming home to roost me. But yeah, I guess 1186 01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:37.399 we'll see what it plays out. 1187 01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:41.159 But my whole thing is always. If you want proof 1188 01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:45.920 that homosexuality is part of God's design, just look at 1189 01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:48.319 the placement of the prostate period. 1190 01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:57.840 That's all true, true, you know. Yeah, I'm sorry, but 1191 01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:02.000 can't help but feel like they feels like it makes sense. 1192 01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.000 Yes, the shod and for it is on Donnie mclarkin's partner. 1193 01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:08.039 This poor man's absolutely and I hope he gets paid. 1194 01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:08.520 Yep. 1195 01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:10.840 I hope the poor man gets paid and gets vindicated. 1196 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:15.239 And you know, I'd like to see mcclarkin finally disgraced 1197 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:17.920 and go away or just admit who you are, right, 1198 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:21.840 admit I just you know, I've. 1199 01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:26.039 Said so many times to certain individuals. I'm not saying 1200 01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:27.880 you ever have to actually suck a dick. 1201 01:18:28.119 --> 01:18:30.359 Just admit you want to. You will feel so much better. 1202 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:35.520 And you know, and really what disgusts me is this 1203 01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:40.119 idea that sexual assault made me get No, it doesn't. 1204 01:18:40.159 --> 01:18:43.000 It never did, it never will. I know plenty of 1205 01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:47.800 straight men who were sexually assaulted, you know, and otherwise 1206 01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:51.720 when they were young. Didn't make them gay. Nope, fucked 1207 01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:53.680 them up right, didn't make them gay. 1208 01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:58.920 Right if you ended up if you were gay as well. 1209 01:18:58.760 --> 01:19:00.640 If you happen to be gay and that was what 1210 01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:03.239 they smelled or by and that is what they smelled. 1211 01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:05.199 That is a different issue. But we we you know, 1212 01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:08.119 we have just two things can be true at the 1213 01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:16.159 same time. But it's not causality. Dear God, what religion 1214 01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:24.039 has done to us anyway, It's been delicious not watching 1215 01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:29.359 Trump bastardize the Kennedy Center with his disgusting name, but 1216 01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:30.279 the fallout. 1217 01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:34.880 Nobody wants to play with that man, right. 1218 01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:44.880 The list of people who have canceled, most recently Bellaflac, Yeah, 1219 01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:47.920 some some can't afford to cancel and are still canceling, 1220 01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:51.359 which is that's the mark of what you stand for. 1221 01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.079 You know. No, as much as I will miss this payday, 1222 01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:59.800 I'm not doing it. I love it. I am here 1223 01:19:59.880 --> 01:20:02.479 for And again I've talked about this before. It's like, 1224 01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:08.640 you know, we see some hideous things happen. The response 1225 01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:11.680 is what I always look for, you know, because there's 1226 01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:17.800 our humanity, there's where our fortitude lives, There's where our 1227 01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:22.840 stuff lives as human beings, and God, is it happening. 1228 01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:27.680 Hamilton Lin Manuel Miranda canceled the entire run. 1229 01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:33.439 Stephen Schwartz was supposed to do a whole wicked thing. 1230 01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:38.439 All that right, there's a hole in their whole. 1231 01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:40.520 Doug Vveronan Dancers, proud of y'all. 1232 01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:49.800 Uh huh. There the Washington National Opera, left ypay, the 1233 01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:57.479 American College Theater Festival, Yep, who's he is it? Like 1234 01:20:57.560 --> 01:21:03.520 the Kid Rock Theater now? What right cha? Chi? Five 1235 01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:04.239 nights a week? 1236 01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:05.960 They got vanillas now too? 1237 01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:10.159 And the oh there's a housewag in charge. 1238 01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:14.960 So Richard Grenell, right, and every time someone quits he 1239 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.560 blames it on like the woke mob got to them. 1240 01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:23.399 The woke mob. Yeah, the woke mob. Wow. 1241 01:21:24.319 --> 01:21:26.359 It was like, no one wants to put their name 1242 01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:27.960 anything with. 1243 01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:32.319 Your name, nobody, right, thank you, people of good conscience 1244 01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:36.199 don't want to be anywhere near you. Right and good, 1245 01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:41.159 he's the right, Christy Lee, Wayne Tucker, the Bernardo Quintet 1246 01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:47.359 with Zonon Wang Magpie, Doug Veronon Dancers, comedy show Asian 1247 01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:51.960 af the touring production of Hamilton, Chuck Read the Cookers, 1248 01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:58.560 Stephen Schwartz, Rihanna Giddons and Balloon, and the cast members 1249 01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:02.840 from a performance of Le Mans also boycotted an event. Yeah, 1250 01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:05.279 it keeps going. 1251 01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:11.000 My favorite was Chuck Red is a jazz musician, and 1252 01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:15.039 every time someone cancels, everyone starts talking about them about 1253 01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:18.319 how like you know you're you're not there to perform 1254 01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:21.039 for everyone. I thought art was supposed to be for everyone. 1255 01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:22.800 And I'm like, how are you going. 1256 01:22:22.680 --> 01:22:24.640 To pretend now that you like jazz when you know 1257 01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:26.039 you clap on the one in the three? 1258 01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:31.960 Don't be fucking with me? Well there's time. Yeah, I mean, 1259 01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:37.119 this was talk about overstepping your bounds and find just 1260 01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:40.439 fuck this is fuck around and find out mm hmm. 1261 01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:42.600 You can put your name on it, but that ain't 1262 01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:45.359 nobody going to show up. Nobody, and I mean no 1263 01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:47.640 motherfucking body wants to play with you. I wonder how 1264 01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:51.800 Glory Gainers feels today. I mean, I mean, she's still staunch. 1265 01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:56.560 Probably everybody who took that aboard I'm just done with. 1266 01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:02.840 And Nicki Minaj is selling her soul what everybody else? 1267 01:23:03.239 --> 01:23:05.840 What is that even about? I don't even. 1268 01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:09.920 She's trying to get a pardon for her rapist and 1269 01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:11.199 abusers in her family. 1270 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:15.560 Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right, Yeah, that makes sense. 1271 01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:22.439 At least there's a reason this is what I want 1272 01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:25.399 to see happen, because this tells me America is not 1273 01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:28.439 going yet, yep, because you know how many times have 1274 01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:31.159 I said, where are all the artists? Where are all 1275 01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:33.920 the smart people? Where are? You know? Like we need 1276 01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:36.239 to hear more from them and less from you know, 1277 01:23:36.680 --> 01:23:39.680 we need to keep countering this shit left, right and sideways. 1278 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:45.039 And this is this is absolutely happening with the Kennedy Center. Yeah, 1279 01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:49.239 you know, not having it, not having it, You're not 1280 01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:52.800 going to do it, not there, And I'm here for 1281 01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:53.239 all of it. 1282 01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:56.479 And the part that cracks me up the hardest, it's 1283 01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.960 not even like he had the Kohane is to take 1284 01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:05.319 the Kennedy name off and put it on, put his 1285 01:24:05.399 --> 01:24:05.840 name up. 1286 01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:12.000 He put his name above Yep. They what in the 1287 01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:17.680 TEAMU fucking It's like, what are you doing? This is 1288 01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:22.399 It's all completely this was all predictable. It's like me 1289 01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:27.319 trying to have the Charles Tyson Washington monument, like what 1290 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:33.079 has always been a joke, Yeah, a joke, uh huh 1291 01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:35.279 for forty years. Now he's got a whole country to 1292 01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:38.279 do it with yea and two yeah, and he is. Yeah, 1293 01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:39.760 nobody should be surprised. 1294 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:41.520 Nobody is. 1295 01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:44.800 That's the thing. Well, some of the mega folks are 1296 01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:48.960 kind of surprised because it is trickling down. It is 1297 01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:51.359 a lot of some of this is affecting them, not 1298 01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:55.640 the Kennedy Center, but yeah, other shit. But I love 1299 01:24:55.720 --> 01:25:00.880 seeing this. I love seeing the arts community saying no, no, now, yeah, 1300 01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:03.920 you know that it is no longer prestigious, not while 1301 01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:06.000 you're involved. There actually is. 1302 01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:09.760 A growing number of people who were like, yeah, I 1303 01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:13.680 made fun of y'all when when Trump won and I 1304 01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:16.560 called you snowflakes, and and you know, I still don't 1305 01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:19.159 agree with anything you stand for, but you know, I 1306 01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:22.000 am coming to terms with the fact that he lied 1307 01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:25.600 about things that I voted for him for. So you know, 1308 01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:29.279 you might have had a point and so, and the 1309 01:25:29.319 --> 01:25:33.279 point of that is like, okay, good, but don't expect 1310 01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:35.720 us to like bring you into the fold and woo 1311 01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:38.079 woo woo with you because you finally see some of 1312 01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:40.279 the light. It's like, no, I will not give you 1313 01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:43.439 makeup tips on how to hide the leopard byite marks 1314 01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:44.239 on your face. 1315 01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:48.720 Bitch, deal with it. You got damn self. It's going 1316 01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:53.279 to be you know, when we say this is effect 1317 01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:57.479 will affect generations, it absolutely will in so many ways. 1318 01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:01.399 If there's a country left when we're done with all 1319 01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:05.960 this nonsense. But you know, one of the things I 1320 01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:09.960 wonder is, how do families, because we've seen this, We've 1321 01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:13.800 talked to people, we know some people, we've had it 1322 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:18.039 happen with us. How do you heal families? How do 1323 01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:21.880 you come back into the fold when you know you 1324 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:31.359 loudly supported this and left and went to January sixth 1325 01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:34.000 on the bus. We know somebody who did that? Yep, 1326 01:26:34.479 --> 01:26:36.880 And yeah, and then when your kids aren't talking to you, 1327 01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:41.840 you wonder why. And you know, we have someone who 1328 01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:44.239 was a very good friend and very close to us, 1329 01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:49.439 and who is apparently full on mega at this point. 1330 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:55.199 And had you known this person prior, you would never 1331 01:26:55.960 --> 01:27:01.840 ever have believed it. Right, that this was a very intelligent, 1332 01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:09.239 very progressive thinking human and the arts community. Yeah, I mean, 1333 01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:11.520 he always had a streak of the toxic masculinity in him, 1334 01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:13.359 but there was that, there was a little of that, 1335 01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:15.880 But I didn't think it was stupid. And I chalked 1336 01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:19.159 that up to you know, being of a certain age 1337 01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:21.680 and white and male, and you know all that, right, 1338 01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:25.039 there was a little of that, the misogyny, sure, right, 1339 01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:25.560 you know. 1340 01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:30.039 But he also listened when you checked him used. 1341 01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:33.479 To did at one time. Yeah, used to learn from 1342 01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:35.840 from shit and that all went away. 1343 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:38.840 Now everything everyone's wrong with him? 1344 01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:41.279 Uh yeah, and it started with COVID yet started with 1345 01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:49.199 the vaccines. Yep, he's still going on and yeah still apparently. 1346 01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:54.840 I wouldn't know, but I wonder, how does that ever heal? Like, 1347 01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:58.119 let's say we finally wake up, because some people are 1348 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:00.520 it's it's almost like they're waking up, going oh shit. 1349 01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:06.560 I was totally deranged. I jumped onto this because it 1350 01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:11.279 spoke to all of my fears and insecurities about being whatever, 1351 01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:17.239 I don't know, under educated, poor, you know, all the 1352 01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:21.039 things I get, you know, but whatever it was that 1353 01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:24.279 attracted people of that and deep down at your racism, oh, 1354 01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:27.840 deep down at your bigotry. Deep down you know it's 1355 01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:30.319 your fear of the other because you've been led to, 1356 01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:34.079 you know, and you want to celebrate what you value. 1357 01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:40.239 I guess, but what happens? How does that ever fix? 1358 01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:42.600 I don't know if it does, I don't know how 1359 01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:45.279 you repair that. You know, even because there's a couple 1360 01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:48.439 of people I can think of that, you know, it 1361 01:28:48.520 --> 01:28:50.279 might be a long road back because you brought it 1362 01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:53.479 into our relationship I didn't right, you did. 1363 01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:55.680 You'll have to do a whole lot of repairative work 1364 01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:57.159 before I'll even write. 1365 01:28:57.239 --> 01:28:59.960 You condemned me. You condemned me. You came into my 1366 01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:05.640 to condemn me for not supporting your support of this president. 1367 01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:12.600 And because I I was smart then and now and 1368 01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.680 I knew better then and now, and I never lied 1369 01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:18.640 to you, but you wanted to believe his lies over 1370 01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:21.760 someone You've known my whole You've known me my whole life. 1371 01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:25.319 So how do you I'm not sure how that gets reconciled, 1372 01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:29.520 especially as time goes on, right, don't know, don't know. 1373 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:34.319 It brings to mind one of my favorite quotes, don't 1374 01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:38.560 hold on to a mistake just because you spent a 1375 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:40.119 lot of time making making it. 1376 01:29:40.159 --> 01:29:43.960 Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, We're still in Chaddenboden. 1377 01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:49.079 So this is this is this happens at the beginning 1378 01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:49.800 of December. 1379 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:50.479 I love this. 1380 01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.239 I held on to it because I really wanted. 1381 01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:58.439 To talk about this. So I want more of this. 1382 01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:04.199 Yes, this delightful woman Okay, her name is not is 1383 01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:05.439 not mentioned here. 1384 01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:05.720 So is a. 1385 01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:12.800 Delightful black woman on TikTok. She took it upon herself 1386 01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:18.840 to drive three hours documented this three hours to knock 1387 01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:23.800 on this white man's door and confront him with the 1388 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:28.000 racist comments that he put on one of her posts. 1389 01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:32.680 She gets to his job, she knocks on the door 1390 01:30:33.199 --> 01:30:35.920 and he opens the door. She asks for someone named Mike. 1391 01:30:37.079 --> 01:30:40.000 Does a man named Mike work here? He was like yes, 1392 01:30:41.640 --> 01:30:45.520 and she asked to come in. And then she says, 1393 01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:47.600 a couple of days ago, you left the comment under 1394 01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:50.600 somebody's comment section. Do you remember that it was regarding 1395 01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:56.479 the Tennessee District seven. And of course he's like, no, no, 1396 01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:01.680 Well she took screenshots. You use the N word, and 1397 01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:06.239 you accuse black people of constantly whining. Well, I'm here 1398 01:31:06.720 --> 01:31:11.520 to give you the opportunity to apologize before I show 1399 01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:13.199 your wife your Grinder profile. 1400 01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:18.520 Oh oh, and she was basically like you. Grinder is 1401 01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:23.159 a gay hookup app where you can see where gay 1402 01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:28.079 men are in proximity to you to have sex with them. 1403 01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:30.960 Uh huh yeah, And she very like you see how 1404 01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:34.640 easy it was for me and have them. You see 1405 01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:36.479 how easy it was for me to find you. It's 1406 01:31:36.479 --> 01:31:39.800 not cool, right, So I'm giving you the opportunity to apologize. 1407 01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:42.159 I'm going to show your wife the Grinder account I found. 1408 01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:50.920 He agreed to apologize. I she pulled out a written 1409 01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:55.920 apology and asked him to read it on camera. Yep, yeah, 1410 01:31:55.960 --> 01:32:00.319 I might apologize for my actions. I can see the 1411 01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:03.359 consequences of my actions, and I will not do this 1412 01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:06.079 to anyone else ever again. 1413 01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:09.039 And then when you finish, you went it was so 1414 01:32:09.159 --> 01:32:11.000 nice meeting you, And then. 1415 01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:14.960 That's all she wanted. Yea. 1416 01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:17.319 And I was just like, she is doing the Lord's work, 1417 01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:19.680 and I think more. 1418 01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:23.800 People should do that. I do too. 1419 01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:30.239 I thought that was tasty, delicious. 1420 01:32:29.560 --> 01:32:32.520 You know, because and like I said, I've taken to 1421 01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:34.600 thinking they all must be bots. It just helps my 1422 01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:39.199 mental health. But you would never say to me in 1423 01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:43.399 person what you'll say to me online. I know that's right. 1424 01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:48.720 You wouldn't dare say to me in person what you 1425 01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:53.199 will say to me with your face book muscles and 1426 01:32:53.239 --> 01:33:00.199 your face buck balls. You would never dare in person, right, 1427 01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:01.600 You just wouldn't. 1428 01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:05.520 Which is the exact opposite of you and I, because 1429 01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:09.319 we will happily repeat ourselves to your face because we 1430 01:33:09.399 --> 01:33:10.680 have the courage of our conviction. 1431 01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:14.119 Absolutely. Oh yeah, I'll back it up. 1432 01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:16.920 I just got into this with someone the other day 1433 01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:23.199 because it was someone was being like extremely misogynistic and 1434 01:33:25.319 --> 01:33:27.319 you know, and being. And then someone else is like, well, 1435 01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:29.279 not all men. And I said, I say this a 1436 01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:32.600 hundred times if I said it once, not all men, 1437 01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:35.840 but enough of you bitches to warrant the conversation. And 1438 01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:38.159 someone was like, oh see, you're one of those people. 1439 01:33:38.319 --> 01:33:40.760 You talk all big and bad online, but then if 1440 01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:43.279 if you were in person, you wouldn't be saying that 1441 01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:45.159 calling people bitches. I was like, first of all, that's 1442 01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:47.239 your takeaway from what I said. That's a whole other 1443 01:33:47.239 --> 01:33:50.600 set of problems. Second of all, I absolutely would repeat myself. 1444 01:33:50.600 --> 01:33:52.600 You obviously have no idea who I am. 1445 01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:55.520 Yeah, I don't. I don't get it like I don't, 1446 01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:59.520 but but I know most of these people mm hmm, 1447 01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:03.239 wouldn't dare, right, I. 1448 01:34:03.159 --> 01:34:05.159 Have one face and one person. 1449 01:34:07.119 --> 01:34:10.279 You wouldn't dare You wouldn't call me those names. No, 1450 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:15.720 I probably outweigh you. I probably cast a shadow over 1451 01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:22.359 you when we stand one another. And don't trifle with 1452 01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:26.399 me because I don't trifle with you. I treat others 1453 01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:32.840 with respect and you'll treat me with respect, and you 1454 01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:38.079 just wouldn't. And that's what blows me away with social 1455 01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:43.439 media is you forget yourself. Sorry some of y'all. Some 1456 01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:45.359 of y'all are making a nickel a post I guess 1457 01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:49.000 or whatever and don't care and or hiding behind a 1458 01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:53.600 pick name or whatever. But this is the thing people 1459 01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:56.319 for like think there's anonymity, but they're real people and 1460 01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:58.920 they can be traced, and I love it when they are. 1461 01:34:59.239 --> 01:35:01.640 Oh yeah, and they lose their job and that's called 1462 01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:03.760 fuck around and find out that is not called that 1463 01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:07.720 you were canceled whatever. Some of y' all deserve to 1464 01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:12.079 be canceled if that is how you choose to conduct yourself, 1465 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:17.800 And God bless her, because yeah, yeah, the hypocrisy is astounding, 1466 01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:21.640 and it's the hypocrisy. I thought we used to loathe 1467 01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:25.399 in this country. I really did. I across political lines. 1468 01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:30.279 I thought we hated hypocrisy. Yeah truly, I thought, you know, 1469 01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:34.039 we haveing only one face meant something, right. 1470 01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:40.239 Oh yeah, Oh there's this one streamer. He's on Twitch, 1471 01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:44.479 I think, and he's a young black dude and I 1472 01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:47.920 live for this shit, like cause the gamer community is 1473 01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:51.600 like the toxic is fuck and so like there's always 1474 01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:54.680 these like fourteen fifteen year old white kids that talk 1475 01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:57.000 all kinds of shit when there's a black person there, yep, 1476 01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:00.079 and call him all kinds of like monkey and and 1477 01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:03.159 all this shit. So there was one time someone was 1478 01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:05.399 trying this at saying black people aren't aren't the same 1479 01:36:05.439 --> 01:36:07.880 species and your monkeys and your apes and but da 1480 01:36:07.960 --> 01:36:10.119 da dah. So he pulls out a banana and starts 1481 01:36:10.159 --> 01:36:12.479 eating it and goes, oh, is this you? Says his 1482 01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:15.119 real name is your address, dada da da. Your mother's 1483 01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:15.920 name is da da da da. 1484 01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:16.479 You're just name. 1485 01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:19.399 You see how easily can do this? So oh and 1486 01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:21.600 you're on camera right now, and then all of the 1487 01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:23.000 kids sudden, the kids say, oh, you're just going to 1488 01:36:23.119 --> 01:36:24.960 ruin a fourteen year old's life. Like oh no, no, no, no, 1489 01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:26.840 no no, you were you were big and bad five 1490 01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:29.039 seconds ago when I was a monkey. Now you're fourteen. 1491 01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:29.600 No fuck that. 1492 01:36:30.159 --> 01:36:32.039 He's like, can I apologize? No no, no, it's too 1493 01:36:32.119 --> 01:36:32.760 late for that shit. 1494 01:36:32.840 --> 01:36:38.439 Now. Didn't Brian Simms do that like called somebody's grandmother 1495 01:36:38.640 --> 01:36:42.279 or something or called their house? It was like, yeah, somebody, 1496 01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:44.520 I think somebody called him a faggot and like called 1497 01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:47.039 and said, oh you're his grandmother. Well I just wanted 1498 01:36:47.039 --> 01:36:51.720 you to know. Ah, yes, uh Yeah, that's because you 1499 01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:55.079 know what, being polite t all doesn't matter. Nope, you 1500 01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:59.079 all are not impressed with polite and and and we 1501 01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:01.199 ain't got another notepa. It is for none of us 1502 01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:06.640 that you other have anything to apologize for by existing. Therefore, right, 1503 01:37:07.159 --> 01:37:10.039 some of this is the medicine you have ritually asked for. 1504 01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:13.760 You know, if rent boys in DC kept better records, 1505 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:19.479 we would have better laws. Oh, I'm just saying we 1506 01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:25.000 would have better laws. Yes, the Democrats don't crash grinder 1507 01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:29.000 wherever they gather exactly, but boy do conservatives. 1508 01:37:30.439 --> 01:37:36.720 I love swift retribution, right, it makes me happy. 1509 01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:42.319 Yeah, I'm just saying. You know that we used to 1510 01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:49.760 say hypocrisy, and particularly hypocrisy where you, you know, create 1511 01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:52.920 laws that affect the lives of other people, but hypocrisy 1512 01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:56.840 in general mattered. Yeah, you know, and if you're gonna 1513 01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:00.880 this was beautiful because if you're gonna around calling black 1514 01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:03.680 people the M word. Yeah, I think your wife should 1515 01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:07.359 understand the fullness of you mm hm, because I don't 1516 01:38:07.399 --> 01:38:11.399 think she makes many of her own decisions at this point, 1517 01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:14.960 probably because of the substances she needs to live with you. 1518 01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:19.199 And it's so easy to find these things well. 1519 01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:23.239 And that's just the point. It's like, you're not anonymous, No, 1520 01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:28.840 we can see you. And is this what you want 1521 01:38:29.079 --> 01:38:33.239 your children to look back on? It's the pictures of 1522 01:38:33.359 --> 01:38:37.560 Grandma holding up the signs when Ruby Bridges was you 1523 01:38:37.600 --> 01:38:40.600 know what I mean. It's it's that it's the screaming 1524 01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:43.199 and the ugly and the nasty that is you know, 1525 01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:46.199 I mean, it's there for all eternity. It is part 1526 01:38:46.239 --> 01:38:51.159 of history and you can't erase it. You can try, 1527 01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:55.800 God knows you can try. It's going to keep coming back. Yep, 1528 01:38:56.880 --> 01:39:00.920 it's going to keep coming back. And I love that 1529 01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.760 she just went, you know what, right, not today? 1530 01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:06.000 I got time today? 1531 01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:11.560 Not today? Yeah, not today. I love it. So anyway, 1532 01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:15.720 I just want to mention as we close out this segment, 1533 01:39:16.600 --> 01:39:21.199 Riley Gaines oh Chuck tied from fifth place in Outsports 1534 01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:24.720 Asshole of the Year award. That's she couldn't even win 1535 01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:28.199 that shade that it's closed, but no cigar for the 1536 01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:29.279 former college swimmer. 1537 01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:32.399 They were like, whatever wherever we place her, it's got 1538 01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:32.960 to be fifth. 1539 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:36.159 It is a Yep, it's a familiar position for her. 1540 01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:41.640 This was just for eighteenth in outsports dot Com. She 1541 01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:45.800 is an asshole. Yeah, she really is. But she placed 1542 01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:48.279 fifth best ass. 1543 01:39:49.199 --> 01:39:51.159 You can't even win that. 1544 01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:59.880 Yeah, she gets twenty five thousand dollars a pop. It's 1545 01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:06.319 speaking engagements, and she visited the White House. They will 1546 01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:11.439 pay that much to hear vitriol and hate that backs 1547 01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:17.800 up their insanity. And she jumped onto that like she 1548 01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:22.279 can't swim, which was you know, supposed to be the point. 1549 01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:25.680 But she can talk, she is, So she realized that 1550 01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:30.239 trashing Lea Thomas would get her paid, so she did so. 1551 01:40:30.279 --> 01:40:38.239 She sold her absolute soul. Yeah to pound only a 1552 01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:48.359 Thomas cute, m cute, and they both came in fifth. 1553 01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:51.479 That is the disgusting party. 1554 01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:56.960 She made coming in fifth, tying for fifth place her 1555 01:40:57.399 --> 01:40:58.520 entire personality. 1556 01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:03.479 Exactly. It's not like you didn't win, because she won. 1557 01:41:03.600 --> 01:41:07.159 And even in that case, Leah Thomas won one fucking 1558 01:41:07.319 --> 01:41:11.840 race that won and lost what three And this is 1559 01:41:11.960 --> 01:41:14.199 what we're counting. This is one of the ones she lost, 1560 01:41:16.159 --> 01:41:20.600 as did Rightley game. Yes, they came they both came 1561 01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:22.560 in fifth, but I guess I don't know. She would 1562 01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:23.880 have had fifth place all on her own. 1563 01:41:25.119 --> 01:41:28.680 Yeah, it's not like if if Leah Thomas hadn't swamp 1564 01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:31.239 swam in that race, is not like, oh then you 1565 01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:31.800 would have won. 1566 01:41:32.119 --> 01:41:38.760 No, at best, you would have been fourth. Call your ass. Yeah, 1567 01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:48.720 yeah you sucked chick. Yeah she's fading finally, Yeah, I 1568 01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:55.359 mean aoc even maybe if you channeled all this anger 1569 01:41:55.439 --> 01:42:02.840 into swimming faster, you wouldn't have come in fifth. See yeah, 1570 01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:10.000 it's it's true. It's funny. It's so funny. It's incredible. 1571 01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:16.760 It's incredible that she is still around and that people 1572 01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:19.840 pay her to talk. I mean, making a career out 1573 01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:22.600 of being mediocre is not a new thing, I know, 1574 01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:33.439 but it's it's it's disgusting. Oh, I agree, it's just disgusting. Anyway, 1575 01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:36.640 didn't even place first as asshole of the Year and 1576 01:42:36.680 --> 01:42:43.079 out sports she played fits and this has been your 1577 01:42:43.159 --> 01:42:49.640 moment sad employ people taking pleasure. 1578 01:42:49.960 --> 01:42:55.119 And I suppose I am to be the one to 1579 01:42:55.239 --> 01:42:58.920 ask this next question of you a. 1580 01:42:58.960 --> 01:43:01.399 Year, it's more than once a year. 1581 01:43:01.960 --> 01:43:06.319 But do you have a fifteen minute fait I do? 1582 01:43:07.319 --> 01:43:09.239 Would you like to tell us about it? 1583 01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:14.199 Sure? Sure? This is you know, this is one of 1584 01:43:14.279 --> 01:43:16.640 the songs that I can play over and over again. 1585 01:43:17.239 --> 01:43:20.680 I can tell you I played it a lot on 1586 01:43:20.720 --> 01:43:23.760 my way to work. Played it a lot when I 1587 01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:27.680 lost my job, and it always makes me feel a 1588 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:31.159 little bigger and a little better when I need it. 1589 01:43:32.239 --> 01:43:35.760 I have it on repeat and it is more than 1590 01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:40.640 a fifteen minute fave. So yeah, it's it's maybe the 1591 01:43:40.720 --> 01:43:45.039 summary of my sixtieth birthday from twenty fifteen Rachel Platin. 1592 01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:54.800 This is fight song, sending big ways and emotion like 1593 01:43:54.960 --> 01:44:00.720 I was single, can make a hard over. I might 1594 01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:04.840 only have one match, but I can make any exposion 1595 01:44:05.960 --> 01:44:10.039 and all those things I did, sash flording balls, a 1596 01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:13.800 sad afraid and I was scream and I have tonight. 1597 01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:16.000 Can you hear my voice? 1598 01:44:16.119 --> 01:44:16.680 This time? 1599 01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:18.760 This is my fat song? 1600 01:44:19.520 --> 01:44:30.399 Take back my life, son through the life, sum starting 1601 01:44:30.520 --> 01:44:34.960 right now, healthy Stop, I'll my mid so. 1602 01:44:36.560 --> 01:44:43.359 In the bly can no believe because I've still got 1603 01:44:43.560 --> 01:44:45.119 a lot if I left in me. 1604 01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:50.199 She was in friends and I'm shasting sleep. 1605 01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:54.560 Everybody's worrying from me. In Tudi. 1606 01:44:55.600 --> 01:45:18.920 Say Tudi, and we're back, We're back. 1607 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:22.520 I always feel a little taller after that song. That 1608 01:45:22.680 --> 01:45:26.079 is a good song. I call that a triumphant song. 1609 01:45:26.199 --> 01:45:30.000 I love triumphant song. I do too. Actually, yeah, and 1610 01:45:30.119 --> 01:45:35.199 sometimes we need them word it is time for the 1611 01:45:35.319 --> 01:45:40.159 cavalcade nonsense. Yes, and. 1612 01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:43.880 Given what's on it, I have whittled it down to 1613 01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:46.720 one story because it's plenty. 1614 01:45:47.359 --> 01:45:50.199 It is plenty, and you know, we need to not 1615 01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:55.560 only say her name, Renee Nicole Good, yes, but we 1616 01:45:55.800 --> 01:45:58.439 really need to talk about what the fuck is going on. 1617 01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:03.760 I've been so angry the past few days, and in 1618 01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:07.560 a way unlike the way I'm usually angry. 1619 01:46:09.039 --> 01:46:13.880 Yeah. Yeah, because an ice agent and ice should not 1620 01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:17.760 exist in its current iteration. Nop. It is despicable, it 1621 01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:21.600 is disgusting. It is you know, the rejects from January 1622 01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:27.680 sixth being you know, given jobs basically anyway. One of 1623 01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:30.199 them shot and killed thirty seven year old Renee Nicole 1624 01:46:30.319 --> 01:46:35.560 Gold in Minneapolis last Wednesday, sparking candlelight vigils and protests 1625 01:46:35.640 --> 01:46:40.640 across this country as good good. 1626 01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:44.760 And kicking over candles of the at the vigil ice agents. 1627 01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:46.399 Oh oh you didn't see this. 1628 01:46:46.840 --> 01:46:49.600 Oh yeah, there was a candlelight vigil. Let's let's get 1629 01:46:49.640 --> 01:46:49.800 to that. 1630 01:46:49.920 --> 01:46:53.119 Okay, okay, so let's I'm sorry, I have. 1631 01:46:55.079 --> 01:46:57.720 She was present at what appeared to be a large 1632 01:46:57.720 --> 01:47:02.960 gathering of ice agents or Portland Avenue South, According to 1633 01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:06.640 multiple videos of the incident. In the videos, multiple ICE 1634 01:47:06.680 --> 01:47:11.760 agents are shown approaching her van, which briefly blocked ICE 1635 01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:15.000 vehicles in the street. One of the agents attempted to 1636 01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:18.119 open the driver's door, saying get out of the fucking car. 1637 01:47:18.840 --> 01:47:22.720 She pulled her vehicle away and accelerated forward, and another 1638 01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:27.039 agent fired three shots through the car. 1639 01:47:26.960 --> 01:47:30.199 Window, one in the front, two on the side. 1640 01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:33.760 Yep. The car then crashed into another parked vehicle nearby. 1641 01:47:34.600 --> 01:47:37.920 She was transported to Hennepin County Medical Center, where she 1642 01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:38.880 was later pronounced it. 1643 01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:44.479 Yeah, I've seen that video from multiple angles. 1644 01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:49.680 Federal agents kept a nearby doctor from approaching the scene 1645 01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:55.119 to administer care that might have been life saving. These 1646 01:47:55.159 --> 01:48:00.359 people are way out of control. And I guess you know, 1647 01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:03.840 we now know she was a white queer wife and mother, 1648 01:48:04.159 --> 01:48:11.760 and maybe the fact that she's white wild. I don't know, right, 1649 01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:15.560 but you could be next. Is the message to all 1650 01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:24.239 of this. Yeah. They have been vile, vile, None of 1651 01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:27.399 them are qualified for this shit, right. This government has 1652 01:48:27.439 --> 01:48:31.520 been vile. And what they've had to say. They tried 1653 01:48:31.560 --> 01:48:34.479 to trash this woman. They have lied about her. Christy 1654 01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:40.119 Nome claimed she had intentionally attempted to weaponize her vehicle Nope, 1655 01:48:40.319 --> 01:48:44.920 to injure Ice agents with her car. Trump claimed she 1656 01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:50.079 viciously ran over the Ice agent Nope, and was killed 1657 01:48:50.079 --> 01:48:55.600 in self defense, and baselessly called her wife, heard screaming 1658 01:48:55.600 --> 01:48:58.520 in the in some of the videos, a professional agitator. 1659 01:48:58.880 --> 01:49:02.159 This is what we've come to. Yeah, no, go ahead, 1660 01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:04.199 go off. Oh yeah. 1661 01:49:05.560 --> 01:49:09.039 So first of all, right, so I've seen this. I've 1662 01:49:09.079 --> 01:49:16.159 seen multiple camera angles of this happening. Someone took the 1663 01:49:16.199 --> 01:49:20.920 time to do a three D model to read like 1664 01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:24.199 to to show it from all angles. 1665 01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:23.920 There. 1666 01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:27.279 There's no way any of their arguments hold any kind 1667 01:49:27.319 --> 01:49:31.079 of water. She was not advancing toward any of them. 1668 01:49:31.279 --> 01:49:34.640 She was turning to get a way to move the 1669 01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:39.439 car that they fucking told her to move, Okay, and 1670 01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:43.640 she was right. The one Ice agent was in front 1671 01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:49.079 of her car. She did not aim at anyone, and 1672 01:49:49.319 --> 01:49:51.800 she wasn't moving that fast because she was trying to 1673 01:49:52.239 --> 01:49:56.079 not hit anyone or anything. But he was mad that 1674 01:49:56.159 --> 01:49:59.319 she didn't like listen, she wasn't afraid of him. 1675 01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:02.119 Her and she wasn't going to get out of the car, right, 1676 01:50:03.359 --> 01:50:06.319 So he fired, which surprises no woman. 1677 01:50:06.399 --> 01:50:09.520 Right, So you fired three shots? 1678 01:50:09.640 --> 01:50:13.880 Yeah, this is a very fragile white man. This is 1679 01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:18.279 what they're capable of when when they feel not taken 1680 01:50:18.439 --> 01:50:22.640 seriously threatened in they not not even threatened, laughed at 1681 01:50:22.680 --> 01:50:26.359 in the least, not given the full dignity they want 1682 01:50:26.479 --> 01:50:30.079 because they now have some stupid title. Whatever the fuck, 1683 01:50:30.640 --> 01:50:35.319 that's what this is, right, that's all this is. This 1684 01:50:35.359 --> 01:50:40.279 woman did nothing wrong. I hope this has been my thought. 1685 01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:44.840 I hope this is the televised fire hoses. I hope 1686 01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:49.000 that is this moment. Right, you know, it moves the 1687 01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:51.000 needle when it is a person of color. Now it's 1688 01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:54.479 a white lady. Now what And they're trying to use 1689 01:50:54.520 --> 01:50:56.760 the fact that you excuse a good missie queer, so. 1690 01:50:56.920 --> 01:50:58.279 Right, you're trying to they were trying to use the 1691 01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:01.479 fact that she's queer to like diminish her her fucking value, 1692 01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:05.600 as if that you know what I'm saying, Like of course, like, 1693 01:51:06.640 --> 01:51:10.399 of course, like so that is disgusting. Like I am 1694 01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:15.439 not trained in law enforcement, and my first thought would be, okay, fine, 1695 01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:18.079 if you're in that situation you feel that that's a threat, 1696 01:51:18.399 --> 01:51:22.600 you shoot the tires, not the driver, right, m hm, 1697 01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:29.359 just me. Apparently after he killed her, he could be 1698 01:51:29.399 --> 01:51:36.840 heard saying fucking bitch, like really really, so that's right. 1699 01:51:36.920 --> 01:51:39.000 That goes to show that really all it was was 1700 01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:41.000 you were trying to show that uppity woman a lesson 1701 01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:41.319 for not. 1702 01:51:41.319 --> 01:51:43.479 Listening to your act. That is correct, That is not. 1703 01:51:43.760 --> 01:51:46.439 That is not a man in fear of his life. Now, 1704 01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:51.119 that's a man whose ego has been brushed against. 1705 01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:56.159 Not to mention, she was moving at such a low 1706 01:51:56.279 --> 01:51:58.239 rate of speed that he had three to five business 1707 01:51:58.319 --> 01:51:59.680 days to get the fuck out of the way. 1708 01:51:59.720 --> 01:52:03.319 I'm threatned. My life was threatened, Like get the fuck 1709 01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:03.800 out of here. 1710 01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:07.760 No, no, And then there was a candlelight vigil for 1711 01:52:07.800 --> 01:52:11.319 the woman that they murdered, and there's agents there, and 1712 01:52:11.840 --> 01:52:17.039 there's video of this one kicking over candles, just kicking 1713 01:52:17.079 --> 01:52:21.760 them over, and someone was like, do you understand what 1714 01:52:21.800 --> 01:52:23.720 you just did? And all they have to say is 1715 01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:26.000 back up, Like do you know why that was there? 1716 01:52:26.159 --> 01:52:28.319 Back up? Do you know why that candle was there? 1717 01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:28.840 Back up? 1718 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:30.960 It was this is a vigil for this woman. 1719 01:52:31.039 --> 01:52:31.359 Back up. 1720 01:52:31.399 --> 01:52:34.119 And then he pushed the guy back. It's like they're bullies. 1721 01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:37.520 They're the fucking Gestapo. That's all they are. This is 1722 01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:40.399 Gestapo two point Oh you can't tell me different. No, 1723 01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:44.359 I do enjoy the fact that there is a resurgence 1724 01:52:44.439 --> 01:52:47.840 of armed Black Panther members. 1725 01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:50.960 Out in public. We now know this jackass's name is 1726 01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:52.439 Jonathan Ross. Yes. 1727 01:52:52.960 --> 01:52:55.680 I normally don't like to say the names of people 1728 01:52:55.800 --> 01:52:57.720 like this and give them lighter air. But no, say 1729 01:52:57.760 --> 01:53:00.960 his motherfucking name because they always high their faces and 1730 01:53:01.199 --> 01:53:03.800 you're so big and bad. Why can't we see your face? 1731 01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:08.760 Yep, forty three year old firearms instructor who appears to 1732 01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:17.000 have defended white supremacists online. No kidding, no kidding, Uh huh, 1733 01:53:17.119 --> 01:53:20.359 that's who that is. Yeah, she was a thirty seven 1734 01:53:20.439 --> 01:53:26.439 year old poet and mother. Yeah, mm hmm. Yeah. The 1735 01:53:26.920 --> 01:53:30.079 man who called her a fucking bitch after he shot 1736 01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:37.119 her gonessent wrong, she was attempting to leave the scene, yeah, 1737 01:53:37.159 --> 01:53:37.720 real quick. 1738 01:53:37.880 --> 01:53:41.319 Now might be a good time to point out there 1739 01:53:41.399 --> 01:53:42.920 is an app that exists. 1740 01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:46.319 I have it on my phone. It's called kochie c OQ. 1741 01:53:47.279 --> 01:53:51.479 You I and you put your your location in and 1742 01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:55.439 it gives you a live map of your immediate surroundings 1743 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:57.840 all the way out to the world at a glance, 1744 01:53:58.399 --> 01:54:00.840 and it shows you where I say, agents are at 1745 01:54:00.840 --> 01:54:04.039 any given time. How does it know because it's it's 1746 01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:07.479 user driven. So when you see them, you put it 1747 01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:12.199 in and it tells you ICE. It tells you police 1748 01:54:12.600 --> 01:54:15.600 you can put in if they're still there, how long 1749 01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:16.359 they've been there. 1750 01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:22.760 He has an enforcement and Removal Operations agent that's a 1751 01:54:22.840 --> 01:54:25.880 madeup with ICE. He was deployed at to Iraq in 1752 01:54:25.920 --> 01:54:29.319 two thousand and four and five Stormtrooper, where he operated 1753 01:54:29.399 --> 01:54:33.159 machine guns on patrol trucks before joining Border Patrol in 1754 01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:36.079 two thousand and seven and eventually ICE in twenty fifteen 1755 01:54:37.359 --> 01:54:41.920 when he moved to Minneapolis. So Storm big Man has 1756 01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:46.239 always done this bullshit. He's a member of the SWAT Team, 1757 01:54:46.479 --> 01:54:49.760 the Saint Paul Special Response Team, and a joint FBI 1758 01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:55.760 Anti Terrorism Task Force, but he can't handle a woman 1759 01:54:56.239 --> 01:55:00.119 not immediately listening to order. 1760 01:55:02.640 --> 01:55:07.279 Yeah, this is the same reason why you know, women 1761 01:55:07.359 --> 01:55:10.159 walk with their keys in their hands like a you know, 1762 01:55:10.600 --> 01:55:13.960 like a weapon. These are the reasons why women cover 1763 01:55:14.039 --> 01:55:18.560 their drinks. These are the reasons why women don't travel alone. 1764 01:55:19.039 --> 01:55:20.960 These are you know, these are the reason why there's 1765 01:55:21.039 --> 01:55:24.239 codes at bars like can I get an angel shot 1766 01:55:24.279 --> 01:55:26.239 to let someone know that there's a man there that 1767 01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:29.359 won't leave you alone. This all comes down to, like 1768 01:55:29.399 --> 01:55:34.079 these fragile male egos that can't they can't handle their 1769 01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:37.680 own irrelevance, They can't handle their own mediogrity, so they 1770 01:55:37.680 --> 01:55:41.479 got to exert any kind of power yep. And it's 1771 01:55:41.600 --> 01:55:43.640 never against someone as big as they are. 1772 01:55:44.439 --> 01:55:47.039 Of course not. Friends and family describe him as a 1773 01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:52.479 hardcore conservative Christian and magas supporter these sports don't tread 1774 01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:57.800 on Me flags and Trump dvance stickers. Social media posts 1775 01:55:57.920 --> 01:56:01.880 reveal him arguing with his family over the white supremacist 1776 01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:05.640 group the Proud Boys. His sister Nicole posted a photo 1777 01:56:05.680 --> 01:56:09.079 on Facebook in October of twenty twenty of herself wearing 1778 01:56:09.119 --> 01:56:12.960 a face mask with the caption I denounce and condemn 1779 01:56:13.239 --> 01:56:17.479 white supremacy. Ross replied in a comment that has since 1780 01:56:17.479 --> 01:56:22.520 been deleted, prompting Nicole to respond, we have to respectfully disagree. 1781 01:56:22.560 --> 01:56:24.800 You are my brother and I love you, but we 1782 01:56:24.880 --> 01:56:28.680 will not engage in a debate on Facebook. Last year, 1783 01:56:28.680 --> 01:56:31.960 he broke a suspects car window Yep. When a man 1784 01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:35.239 wouldn't fully roll down his window, he broke it. He 1785 01:56:35.319 --> 01:56:38.319 broke the car's rear window in an effort to unlock 1786 01:56:38.359 --> 01:56:42.000 the door from the inside, and the driver did accelerate, 1787 01:56:42.039 --> 01:56:44.439 dragging him about three hundred feet down the road while 1788 01:56:44.439 --> 01:56:47.920 he attempted to taze the driver. Yeah, so we go 1789 01:56:48.039 --> 01:56:48.439 right to. 1790 01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:54.800 All these guys. Is another video of one of these 1791 01:56:54.800 --> 01:57:00.479 guys pointing a gun at an unarmed protester telling him, 1792 01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:02.680 telling him to move to back up, and the guy 1793 01:57:02.720 --> 01:57:05.720 wouldn't move. He took his gun out and pointed at 1794 01:57:05.720 --> 01:57:06.159 his face. 1795 01:57:08.079 --> 01:57:13.760 Yeah. And the Trump administration has nothing but lies, insulting 1796 01:57:13.800 --> 01:57:18.880 her memory and insulting her intelligence. CHRISTI nom should be 1797 01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:24.079 in jail. Yeah, truly, truly, and and and I can't 1798 01:57:24.119 --> 01:57:27.439 believe there are Republicans who don't agree, can't believe it, 1799 01:57:28.600 --> 01:57:32.399 don't want to believe it. She was probably kind of terrified, 1800 01:57:32.840 --> 01:57:36.479 and she tried to leave, right. He stepped away from 1801 01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:41.439 the vehicle in order to fire their shots. Right. They 1802 01:57:41.479 --> 01:57:44.000 were never in any danger being hit by her. They weren't. 1803 01:57:44.079 --> 01:57:46.479 But this is this is. 1804 01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:52.680 And and you're claiming that she weaponized her vehicle. That's 1805 01:57:52.680 --> 01:57:57.439 not the playbook. She didn't by leaving, right, that's the 1806 01:57:57.479 --> 01:58:00.680 playbook of these maga people in these white premises. Those 1807 01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:02.119 are the ones you see doing that shit. 1808 01:58:03.199 --> 01:58:05.319 They are the ones who weaponize a vehicle. 1809 01:58:05.600 --> 01:58:10.920 Uh, huh, Charlotte, Yep, yep, yep, which is why that's 1810 01:58:10.960 --> 01:58:14.640 your frame of reference. So that must be it. It's 1811 01:58:14.680 --> 01:58:17.119 that whole thing. If you lie and cheat and steal, 1812 01:58:17.439 --> 01:58:20.239 everyone else must be a liar, cheater and a thief. 1813 01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:22.000 That's how this works. Yeah. 1814 01:58:23.199 --> 01:58:25.560 My first thought is, oh, mow him down, so that 1815 01:58:25.640 --> 01:58:26.560 must be what she did. 1816 01:58:27.479 --> 01:58:31.640 Maybe I don't think it's that, though, because that would 1817 01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:34.520 mean he equates his behavior with that of a woman, 1818 01:58:35.079 --> 01:58:39.159 and that will never happen. That he somehow, you know, 1819 01:58:39.279 --> 01:58:42.880 identified with her behavior. That is not what happened. How 1820 01:58:43.079 --> 01:58:48.000 dare she challenge me? How dares she not follow my orders? 1821 01:58:49.159 --> 01:58:54.439 How dare she not be afraid of me? I'll show her. 1822 01:58:54.600 --> 01:58:57.600 And he took her life, and broad took a mother 1823 01:58:57.680 --> 01:59:01.880 away from her children, took a wife away from her wife. Yeah, 1824 01:59:02.239 --> 01:59:07.640 because his ego had a moment, a moment, and they 1825 01:59:07.640 --> 01:59:12.640 can't even deal with that. It is terrifying. It is terrifying. 1826 01:59:12.920 --> 01:59:16.920 These are the people we want to keep weapons away from. Right. 1827 01:59:18.079 --> 01:59:22.520 And the fact that I see recruitment commercials for ice 1828 01:59:22.680 --> 01:59:27.960 on television, yep, like chills my blood yep. 1829 01:59:28.560 --> 01:59:31.560 I don't how do you watch this? And and and 1830 01:59:33.239 --> 01:59:37.119 I mean the contortions that it takes to try to 1831 01:59:37.159 --> 01:59:43.000 dehumanize a victim, and there are women doing it, Christie allegedly, 1832 01:59:43.039 --> 01:59:46.560 as you know. And the Fox News is to talked 1833 01:59:46.560 --> 01:59:49.119 about her pronouns being in her bio. That's there's a 1834 01:59:49.159 --> 01:59:52.319 reason for her to be dead. Is that? Is that 1835 01:59:52.399 --> 01:59:54.920 where we live? Yeah? The one that where we want 1836 01:59:54.960 --> 01:59:55.359 to live. 1837 01:59:55.640 --> 01:59:58.720 Yeah. I'm not even gonna fucking say his name, but 1838 01:59:59.039 --> 02:00:02.920 he was on his show saying the woman who lost 1839 02:00:02.920 --> 02:00:07.039 her life was a self proclaimed poet from Colorado with 1840 02:00:07.319 --> 02:00:09.039 pronouns in her bio. 1841 02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:12.479 She was from Colorado? When was she was? She born 1842 02:00:12.479 --> 02:00:15.279 in Colorado? I mean she lived in Minneapolis. She came 1843 02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:19.199 to Minneapolis from Kansas City and Missouri. So like, I 1844 02:00:19.199 --> 02:00:21.560 don't even know what that right. Maybe maybe she was 1845 02:00:21.600 --> 02:00:25.479 originally I don't know where they're confusing her with anyway, 1846 02:00:25.520 --> 02:00:26.680 who knows. 1847 02:00:28.079 --> 02:00:31.119 And then publications like The Daily Mail refused to say 1848 02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:35.399 she had a wife. They referred to she left behind 1849 02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:38.359 a lesbian partner and a child from a previous marriage. 1850 02:00:39.079 --> 02:00:44.159 She left behind her wife two children, I believe previous. 1851 02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:46.520 They don't even have the facts right. 1852 02:00:47.079 --> 02:00:51.359 She was married to comedian Timmy Ray Maclin, who died 1853 02:00:51.439 --> 02:00:54.560 in twenty twenty three. She was the mother of three, 1854 02:00:55.000 --> 02:01:00.640 two teenagers from her first marriage prior to her marriage 1855 02:01:00.680 --> 02:01:03.600 to Maclin. We need to be talking about a nice 1856 02:01:03.640 --> 02:01:07.319 agent shooting an American citizen in the face. 1857 02:01:07.680 --> 02:01:10.920 Yeah, execution, that's what it is. He executed her. 1858 02:01:10.880 --> 02:01:13.880 On an American street. We need to talk about that 1859 02:01:14.800 --> 02:01:19.399 in broad mother about the daylight. Yeah, it could be you, 1860 02:01:19.399 --> 02:01:23.479 you right wing fascist. It could be you if you 1861 02:01:23.600 --> 02:01:26.840 don't exactly as you're told. 1862 02:01:28.680 --> 02:01:32.279 Like I've I've already thought about the fact that I 1863 02:01:32.319 --> 02:01:39.399 am racially ambiguous m hm hm and get called poppy 1864 02:01:39.439 --> 02:01:41.199 a lot, you know. 1865 02:01:41.399 --> 02:01:42.800 So it's like, I. 1866 02:01:44.479 --> 02:01:47.039 Don't actively get scared, but I do think about it 1867 02:01:47.079 --> 02:01:49.079 when I go places like when I cross the bridge, 1868 02:01:50.199 --> 02:01:50.520 you know. 1869 02:01:51.279 --> 02:01:58.119 So do I because that's again, you know, the visual 1870 02:01:58.239 --> 02:02:04.239 of anything is enough with these people. It's enough to 1871 02:02:04.479 --> 02:02:09.840 justify anything. Ask the women who have actually been assaulted 1872 02:02:09.880 --> 02:02:14.279 by other women or the men who come rushing into 1873 02:02:14.319 --> 02:02:19.520 the women's room, thank you allegedly defending them because some 1874 02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:25.119 Karen complained mm hmmm, because this woman who didn't look 1875 02:02:25.159 --> 02:02:33.039 feminine enough for you had to be And yeah, doesn't 1876 02:02:33.039 --> 02:02:35.159 matter how low abiding you are, or the fact that 1877 02:02:36.359 --> 02:02:39.960 you were born right here yep, and there's it could 1878 02:02:39.960 --> 02:02:42.880 be in a moment, what they see and with your attitude, 1879 02:02:44.439 --> 02:02:48.399 I could be a widow because of what they think 1880 02:02:48.439 --> 02:02:51.760 they see, right and their fucking storm troopers. 1881 02:02:51.800 --> 02:02:56.720 They'll go into schools, into restaurant kitchens and like steps 1882 02:02:56.720 --> 02:03:00.399 people from their jobs, from their desks, from business is 1883 02:03:00.399 --> 02:03:06.239 that they own, outside of courthouses, outside of like stadiums. 1884 02:03:07.560 --> 02:03:12.439 This is not okay, This is not America. This is 1885 02:03:12.880 --> 02:03:15.840 not what, not what it used to be, not what 1886 02:03:15.920 --> 02:03:17.600 it can be. This has nothing to do with the 1887 02:03:17.640 --> 02:03:21.640 promise of America. Nope. This has to do with, you know, 1888 02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:25.760 a very small segment gaining grounds so that the Republican 1889 02:03:25.800 --> 02:03:30.479 Party could keep power. They let the fringe of their 1890 02:03:30.520 --> 02:03:35.319 fringe in to the conversation in the eighties because Saint 1891 02:03:35.439 --> 02:03:44.319 Reagan recognized it as a necessity before that. This was 1892 02:03:44.399 --> 02:03:47.439 not their Republican Party. This was not politics, This was 1893 02:03:47.479 --> 02:03:50.880 not we We actually cared about experts, We cared about 1894 02:03:50.880 --> 02:03:54.000 the truth, We cared about hypocrisy, at least we pretended to. 1895 02:03:54.159 --> 02:03:56.720 And I'm not saying it was perfect, but it wasn't. 1896 02:03:56.920 --> 02:04:03.640 This right, this is the logical conclusion of everything we've 1897 02:04:03.680 --> 02:04:08.119 been warning y'all about you know, I made a statement 1898 02:04:08.199 --> 02:04:14.199 recently about just a comment twenty sixteen. You will remember 1899 02:04:14.279 --> 02:04:18.720 the text I caught from a fellow woman business owner 1900 02:04:19.239 --> 02:04:23.319 who criticized me and said I was too political and 1901 02:04:23.359 --> 02:04:25.600 that turns off some of your customers. She met her, 1902 02:04:26.319 --> 02:04:29.600 actually she met her boyfriend, and I said, it must 1903 02:04:29.600 --> 02:04:32.479 be nice to not live your politics. It must be 1904 02:04:32.600 --> 02:04:35.920 nice that your life doesn't change much no matter who 1905 02:04:35.960 --> 02:04:36.880 gets elected. 1906 02:04:37.960 --> 02:04:40.479 Oh he said that. He said that, either to me 1907 02:04:40.680 --> 02:04:43.000 or in front of me, that, oh, it doesn't matter 1908 02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:44.399 who's president, it doesn't really affect me. 1909 02:04:44.439 --> 02:04:46.399 I wanted to smack the shit out of him. They're 1910 02:04:46.439 --> 02:04:50.119 doing right. But you know, she gave me a lecture 1911 02:04:50.560 --> 02:04:53.840 about toning it down. And one of her friends, and 1912 02:04:53.880 --> 02:04:55.760 a person I thought was a friend, told me my 1913 02:04:55.880 --> 02:05:01.760 rhetoric was a paranoid I think was. You know, but 1914 02:05:02.680 --> 02:05:06.319 if I was right, he'd have my back. I never 1915 02:05:06.359 --> 02:05:09.760 heard from him again. Remember him, you remember him. I 1916 02:05:09.800 --> 02:05:12.560 was a good friend to him. Not only did he 1917 02:05:12.640 --> 02:05:15.399 not have my back, he never came back into our bar. Nope, 1918 02:05:15.680 --> 02:05:20.720 because this is the kind of cancer supporting a person 1919 02:05:20.800 --> 02:05:25.600 like Trump is. He was always a joke to serious 1920 02:05:25.640 --> 02:05:30.880 people He was always a joke to people who fundamentally 1921 02:05:30.920 --> 02:05:36.600 care about decency and fairness and anything good in this country. 1922 02:05:36.840 --> 02:05:42.199 He was always a joke, a literal punchline, a literal punchline. 1923 02:05:42.279 --> 02:05:46.439 And now we have American citizens, and now it's the 1924 02:05:46.439 --> 02:05:49.560 white ones being murdered in the street. 1925 02:05:50.600 --> 02:05:54.119 And there's still like people in the comments of these 1926 02:05:54.159 --> 02:05:58.079 things channing ice ice baby and shit like that. And 1927 02:05:58.119 --> 02:06:02.119 that's why they had that fucking event, whatever it was, 1928 02:06:03.079 --> 02:06:05.439 and they had Vanilla Ice performed just so they could 1929 02:06:05.479 --> 02:06:07.600 perform ice ice baby like that. 1930 02:06:07.600 --> 02:06:12.319 That and of course they did right first job he 1931 02:06:12.399 --> 02:06:15.760 had in twenty five years. Well that. Yeah, if you 1932 02:06:15.920 --> 02:06:20.560 aren't disgusted and terrified right now, you shouldn't be listening 1933 02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:25.880 to enough, right I. The resistance, the response, the folks 1934 02:06:25.960 --> 02:06:29.319 just gathering together has been enormous and it should continue. 1935 02:06:30.560 --> 02:06:34.920 The politicians, thank god for Jasmine Crockett and Yasi and 1936 02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:37.199 others who are not mincing words. 1937 02:06:37.399 --> 02:06:43.119 Nope, oh they are so scared of Jasmine Crockett Good. 1938 02:06:43.720 --> 02:06:47.119 The only reason I ever would have entertained the thought 1939 02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:49.159 of wanting to be in Texas was to vote for. 1940 02:06:49.119 --> 02:06:58.239 Her, right right, Yeah, this is uh, It's indefensible it is, 1941 02:06:58.439 --> 02:07:05.920 it's it's it's pugnant. This goes beyond rhetoric each and 1942 02:07:05.960 --> 02:07:10.239 every time. I mean, it goes beyond. We weren't doing 1943 02:07:10.279 --> 02:07:12.640 the podcast when it was George Floyd, when we were 1944 02:07:12.680 --> 02:07:16.800 living that when we got docsed for standing up, we 1945 02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:20.000 weren't doing this podcast. But we are now we've been 1946 02:07:20.079 --> 02:07:26.439 docs since. Yeah, we have. Thanks again, Thanks for the 1947 02:07:26.439 --> 02:07:31.920 streams though, Yeah. Thanks. I love it when I don't know, 1948 02:07:32.159 --> 02:07:36.359 we get an uptick because of haters. It's fun. It's 1949 02:07:36.359 --> 02:07:41.079 like turning their tears into money. It's okay or something. Yeah. 1950 02:07:41.199 --> 02:07:46.119 What's soothing my mind right now is I'm looking at 1951 02:07:46.159 --> 02:07:51.399 the stage in Cyprus candle right that weight when we 1952 02:07:51.399 --> 02:07:56.600 were when we record Dear Friend of the Pod. She 1953 02:07:56.840 --> 02:08:03.039 runs a wonderful business in Philadelphia called Witchy Philly Candle Company, 1954 02:08:04.079 --> 02:08:09.399 and we've been they have a lot of our money. 1955 02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:14.840 And I ordered a bunch of new candles, especially the 1956 02:08:14.880 --> 02:08:19.079 Sage and Cypress, which is the Prosperity and Abundance candle, 1957 02:08:19.119 --> 02:08:22.199 and we always burn it when we record both our 1958 02:08:22.239 --> 02:08:26.760 regular episodes and when we do interviews. And I ordered 1959 02:08:26.760 --> 02:08:29.479 a bunch and she sent them to us, and she 1960 02:08:29.640 --> 02:08:37.159 created special labels with our podcast logo on them. 1961 02:08:37.319 --> 02:08:40.359 It does instead of saying full circle the podcast, it says, 1962 02:08:40.399 --> 02:08:44.840 Sage and cypress the candle with picture. These are really fun, 1963 02:08:46.840 --> 02:08:50.000 really fun. And it was a bright spot for sure 1964 02:08:50.199 --> 02:08:51.760 when the order arrived. 1965 02:08:51.439 --> 02:08:54.640 Well because I told her the custom order. Yes, well 1966 02:08:54.680 --> 02:08:56.359 because I told her that, you know, we we burned 1967 02:08:56.359 --> 02:08:59.000 these candles when we record, so she wanted to like 1968 02:08:59.239 --> 02:09:03.199 make a point of making it special for us. 1969 02:09:03.439 --> 02:09:07.199 And you know, one of the things that Elizabeth and 1970 02:09:07.239 --> 02:09:11.640 I say often to the trans folks that we support is, 1971 02:09:11.800 --> 02:09:14.239 if you're going to fight for your life, make sure 1972 02:09:14.239 --> 02:09:17.840 you have one mmmm. Make sure that it's worth living. 1973 02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:21.399 Make sure that the things that you value are a 1974 02:09:21.479 --> 02:09:26.399 part of your existence. Yes, if you value beauty, if 1975 02:09:26.439 --> 02:09:30.520 you value peace, if you value music, make sure to 1976 02:09:30.840 --> 02:09:34.800 include that in your humanity, because otherwise, what are you 1977 02:09:34.840 --> 02:09:38.199 fighting for? Exactly? And this is a part of that. 1978 02:09:38.720 --> 02:09:43.520 And so again, when we go through hard things, how 1979 02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:48.039 we show up and how we show up for others matters, 1980 02:09:48.680 --> 02:09:51.079 you know, I mean it. I don't know. She's probably 1981 02:09:51.079 --> 02:09:52.920 really good at printing out labels. That might have taken 1982 02:09:52.920 --> 02:09:55.479 her two minutes, but it meant the world to us 1983 02:09:55.600 --> 02:10:02.199 to receive our order customized like what a sweet, lovely gesture. Yeah, 1984 02:10:02.279 --> 02:10:05.960 it's why I'm redoing the bathroom and trying to make 1985 02:10:05.960 --> 02:10:10.199 it fabulous because I need to, you know, I need 1986 02:10:10.239 --> 02:10:14.079 to remind myself what matters and what is important and 1987 02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:21.880 beauty and is important to me and our surroundings, our spaces, 1988 02:10:22.159 --> 02:10:27.520 our friends, having a gathering place is important to me, 1989 02:10:28.520 --> 02:10:33.359 and that we have to find balance. That is self care, 1990 02:10:33.720 --> 02:10:40.000 That is, you know, making sure that you don't let 1991 02:10:40.039 --> 02:10:43.960 them win by giving over your sanity because this is 1992 02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:51.359 also insane and you have to take that breath because 1993 02:10:51.600 --> 02:10:56.239 this is a marathon, not a sprint, and they count 1994 02:10:56.319 --> 02:11:00.760 on overwhelming you. They count on you checking out and 1995 02:11:00.800 --> 02:11:03.920 saying it's not worth voting, It's not worth anything if 1996 02:11:04.000 --> 02:11:06.920 they lie to you, so that you turn around and say, well, 1997 02:11:06.960 --> 02:11:10.079 if it's all lies, well it's not all lies. They're 1998 02:11:10.079 --> 02:11:14.840 the ones lying. Get it, don't twist it, don't you know, 1999 02:11:14.920 --> 02:11:17.359 feed into the lie that all politicians are the same 2000 02:11:17.359 --> 02:11:21.159 because more and more good people are entering politics, because 2001 02:11:21.560 --> 02:11:23.880 it's true, they're disgusted with all of that. 2002 02:11:24.000 --> 02:11:26.119 We're friends with many of them, yes we are. 2003 02:11:27.399 --> 02:11:31.680 And so yeah, that small gesture with those labels certainly 2004 02:11:31.760 --> 02:11:35.119 made our day. And it was just a lovely thing. 2005 02:11:35.239 --> 02:11:39.600 So when you can do lovely things, do them. When 2006 02:11:39.640 --> 02:11:45.239 you can love one another more, do so. When you 2007 02:11:45.279 --> 02:11:50.439 can treat yourself in some way that affirms your own 2008 02:11:50.600 --> 02:11:55.479 humanity and dignity and worth, do so. 2009 02:11:56.199 --> 02:12:02.760 For Christmas, you got me a fabulous turntable and stereo. 2010 02:12:03.560 --> 02:12:06.279 And so I've been listening to records again, and I've 2011 02:12:06.279 --> 02:12:10.800 been looking at records that are for sale out in 2012 02:12:10.840 --> 02:12:14.000 the world, and I only consider buying them if I 2013 02:12:14.039 --> 02:12:19.119 can imagine, like the scene that it would set listening 2014 02:12:19.199 --> 02:12:21.760 to this, putting this, putting the needle down on this, 2015 02:12:21.880 --> 02:12:24.520 and what kind of vibe it would set like if 2016 02:12:24.560 --> 02:12:27.159 it doesn't do something like, if it doesn't spark joy, 2017 02:12:27.560 --> 02:12:30.079 it's just like, eh, it's not worth it. 2018 02:12:30.520 --> 02:12:33.119 Well, And you know a big part of your inheritance 2019 02:12:33.239 --> 02:12:36.039 was your father's jazz collection and that's all on vinyl. 2020 02:12:36.279 --> 02:12:39.960 Yeah, and I'm barely scratching the surface with the going 2021 02:12:40.000 --> 02:12:40.840 through those. 2022 02:12:40.880 --> 02:12:45.640 And this also records. Yeah, so you can digitize any 2023 02:12:45.640 --> 02:12:48.920 of it. I love that at it to the digital 2024 02:12:48.920 --> 02:12:52.399 collection and it digitizes CDs and because that's as well, right, 2025 02:12:52.840 --> 02:12:56.039 and you know that hey, that's part of your side 2026 02:12:56.119 --> 02:12:59.600 hustle mm hmm, is you know, putting music together for 2027 02:13:00.439 --> 02:13:06.279 Philadenko and others, And yeah, it's it's part of the equipment, 2028 02:13:07.239 --> 02:13:10.880 but it also brings joy and it does lets you 2029 02:13:11.399 --> 02:13:16.239 enjoy those things I thought it was. That's how it's fabulous. 2030 02:13:16.439 --> 02:13:19.159 I put effort into that you did, and it makes 2031 02:13:19.199 --> 02:13:20.520 me very happy. 2032 02:13:21.800 --> 02:13:24.439 And even like with social media, I'm trying really hard 2033 02:13:24.479 --> 02:13:28.039 to battle my algorithm. Like I've been following a lot 2034 02:13:28.039 --> 02:13:33.239 of things like movie history and music and dance and 2035 02:13:33.479 --> 02:13:35.560 art things. 2036 02:13:35.399 --> 02:13:38.479 Like that to like battle the bullshit. Well, you know, 2037 02:13:38.520 --> 02:13:41.800 and I'm gonna say, like we you spent a little 2038 02:13:41.840 --> 02:13:45.680 time looking at all the lists we're actually on, which 2039 02:13:45.800 --> 02:13:51.840 is pretty awesome because we ran pretty fucking high, you know, 2040 02:13:52.399 --> 02:13:55.520 in a lot of lists and they include arts and culture. 2041 02:13:55.720 --> 02:14:00.880 And we do that for a couple of reasons, because 2042 02:14:00.920 --> 02:14:03.920 we're that's a part of our lives and you know, 2043 02:14:04.039 --> 02:14:09.640 has been, and it's important again to balance out our 2044 02:14:09.720 --> 02:14:14.720 humanity and to remember that there are others out there 2045 02:14:14.800 --> 02:14:19.960 working hard to bring us art and supporting it matters, 2046 02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:24.239 et cetera. So it's it's that means as much to 2047 02:14:24.279 --> 02:14:28.119 me as as our standing as news commentary. Right, you know, 2048 02:14:28.159 --> 02:14:30.920 my standing as a trans woman podcast or any of 2049 02:14:30.960 --> 02:14:33.840 those things, it means as much to see that, you know, 2050 02:14:34.560 --> 02:14:37.880 our discussions of arts and culture matter out there too. 2051 02:14:38.359 --> 02:14:40.960 We're in the top five for those respective categories. 2052 02:14:41.000 --> 02:14:43.239 But I know I love that because there's a lot 2053 02:14:43.239 --> 02:14:46.560 of podcasts out there there, really really really is. There's 2054 02:14:46.600 --> 02:14:49.159 a lot out there, but we are the little podcast 2055 02:14:49.199 --> 02:14:53.479 that keeps going. Word. On that note, I'm going to 2056 02:14:53.560 --> 02:14:59.520 close the Cavalcade because enough, let's take our final break 2057 02:14:59.640 --> 02:15:02.880 and come back and pop the culture. Let's do that. 2058 02:15:03.079 --> 02:15:29.079 We'll be right back. We are back. We're back, you know. Wow. 2059 02:15:30.560 --> 02:15:35.159 Speaking of popping the culture, I love a clever T shirt. 2060 02:15:35.960 --> 02:15:37.680 I love I love a good T shirt. I love 2061 02:15:37.720 --> 02:15:40.439 a fun T shirt. Speaking of t shirts, we have merchandise, 2062 02:15:40.680 --> 02:15:47.479 we do. You have worked closely with Funfire dot com. Yeah, 2063 02:15:47.520 --> 02:15:50.279 and we have merch Yes. 2064 02:15:50.359 --> 02:15:53.840 You may have noticed, or you'll definitely notice when this 2065 02:15:53.960 --> 02:15:56.680 episode comes out. We our logo has gotten a bit 2066 02:15:56.720 --> 02:15:58.199 of a blow up. It did. 2067 02:15:58.960 --> 02:16:01.880 God, we look out, we really do. We just took 2068 02:16:01.920 --> 02:16:06.119 a newer picture. But no, it looks fabulous and the 2069 02:16:06.119 --> 02:16:09.520 books at Bonfire helped us to glow up our our 2070 02:16:09.600 --> 02:16:14.479 logo and created some fabulous merchandise which we're selling. Yes, 2071 02:16:14.520 --> 02:16:17.680 and I love that, And you can put it on stuff, right, 2072 02:16:17.680 --> 02:16:19.399 you can put it on more than T shirts, but 2073 02:16:19.520 --> 02:16:20.600 right now it's T shirt. 2074 02:16:20.840 --> 02:16:25.880 Yes, T shirts and hoodies, Mugs, mugs are coming. 2075 02:16:26.439 --> 02:16:27.520 We're doing We're doing. 2076 02:16:27.359 --> 02:16:31.840 That, yeah. Bags, yeah, but hey yeah. So we're definitely 2077 02:16:31.840 --> 02:16:35.399 going to put the link to our store in the 2078 02:16:35.440 --> 02:16:39.559 episode notes of this episode and every episode from this 2079 02:16:39.600 --> 02:16:41.959 point forward, And when I get some time, I'm going 2080 02:16:42.040 --> 02:16:43.120 to go back and put it in. 2081 02:16:43.120 --> 02:16:46.120 Old ones like it was always there, because one of 2082 02:16:46.159 --> 02:16:49.680 these days we will do this live. One of these 2083 02:16:49.760 --> 02:16:53.479 days we will we will do live podcasts and and 2084 02:16:53.959 --> 02:16:56.760 take them around and we'll have a merchant We'll have 2085 02:16:56.799 --> 02:16:58.879 a merch table. Yeah. 2086 02:16:59.600 --> 02:17:03.360 Yes, And there are already some of our shirts out 2087 02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:04.360 there in the Why I know. 2088 02:17:04.479 --> 02:17:06.639 I love that. I love that, and I love folks 2089 02:17:06.680 --> 02:17:09.799 sending us pictures of them wearing their shirts. Yes that, 2090 02:17:09.920 --> 02:17:13.680 I gotta tell you that like makes me giggle. It's awesome, 2091 02:17:13.879 --> 02:17:17.239 it's fun. It is fun. I never thought my face 2092 02:17:17.280 --> 02:17:19.600 would be on a T shirt kind of cool. I mean, 2093 02:17:20.040 --> 02:17:26.360 not in a good way anyway. Anyway, I've always. 2094 02:17:26.000 --> 02:17:27.840 Been a whore like that. So my face has already 2095 02:17:27.840 --> 02:17:29.799 been on a T shirt, so I'm just glad to. 2096 02:17:29.799 --> 02:17:36.879 Do it again. Fine, anyway, check out the merch. We 2097 02:17:36.959 --> 02:17:41.559 appreciate it. It does help support the podcast and it's fun. 2098 02:17:41.879 --> 02:17:44.879 And the folks at Bonfire did do a beautiful job, 2099 02:17:45.000 --> 02:17:51.399 so thank you to them for finding us and I'm 2100 02:17:51.399 --> 02:17:56.040 partnering with us. Indeed, Glad has announced their nominees for 2101 02:17:56.079 --> 02:18:01.360 the thirty seventh Annual Glad Media Awards. Rivalry is there, 2102 02:18:01.799 --> 02:18:04.280 which we're going to talk about a little bit. Okay, 2103 02:18:04.559 --> 02:18:07.559 Stranger Things which I'll never watch, Pluribus, which I keep 2104 02:18:07.639 --> 02:18:10.360 being told to watch and you keep saying very sure, 2105 02:18:10.680 --> 02:18:14.559 but I might Abbot Elementary, which I. 2106 02:18:14.600 --> 02:18:18.760 Enjoy, Hacks of course, God, I love Hacks. 2107 02:18:18.520 --> 02:18:25.479 Severance which I've still not seen, a bunch of one, 2108 02:18:25.559 --> 02:18:29.000 swift Horses, which also had no idea dry. 2109 02:18:28.879 --> 02:18:31.200 Race for obvious reasons, Kiss of the Spider Woman for 2110 02:18:31.239 --> 02:18:35.760 obvious reasons, Traders for obvious reasons. 2111 02:18:35.799 --> 02:18:40.760 Somehow, Andy Cohen, Yeah, I know, the Kelly Clarkson Show, 2112 02:18:40.959 --> 02:18:48.959 The View, good hang with Amy Poehler, handsome, I've had it, 2113 02:18:49.719 --> 02:18:53.680 and more. Okay, all right. 2114 02:18:55.079 --> 02:18:58.079 The Read also is nominated, even though they're not listed here. 2115 02:18:58.200 --> 02:18:59.319 Oh are they good for them? 2116 02:18:59.399 --> 02:19:07.639 Yeah, last Culturistas, even though uh, they're reaping a little 2117 02:19:07.680 --> 02:19:12.280 bit of kerfuffle because they allegedly joking we're talking about 2118 02:19:12.399 --> 02:19:15.639 don't donate money to Jasmine Crockett. It's a waste of 2119 02:19:15.680 --> 02:19:23.879 time and a waste of money. Really, Okay, whatever, right, Like, 2120 02:19:24.120 --> 02:19:26.040 I love y'all, But no, that ain't that. 2121 02:19:26.079 --> 02:19:29.680 Ain't that? That ain't it? Yeah, it's it's so across like. 2122 02:19:31.159 --> 02:19:33.879 Podcasting and movies and television and music. 2123 02:19:34.760 --> 02:19:37.559 Uh huh. I mean there's other stuff that we'll talk about. 2124 02:19:37.600 --> 02:19:38.760 But anyway, they were announced. 2125 02:19:39.280 --> 02:19:42.360 Yeah, so we'll put the list in the notes of 2126 02:19:42.399 --> 02:19:44.920 this episode. Yeah, we'll give it a perusal. 2127 02:19:45.319 --> 02:19:48.000 Say what you've seen and decide if you want to 2128 02:19:48.000 --> 02:19:53.760 see anything else, because there's some stuff here. Joe, Oh god, okay, 2129 02:19:53.840 --> 02:19:54.719 so that's happening. 2130 02:19:55.840 --> 02:19:59.360 Oh I put this on here a while ago. Four 2131 02:19:59.399 --> 02:20:02.520 Non blond Els finally coming out with a new album 2132 02:20:02.639 --> 02:20:04.200 for thirty three years. 2133 02:20:03.760 --> 02:20:06.440 No kidding. Yeah, I was like, let me open this 2134 02:20:06.520 --> 02:20:10.000 so I can say it's no shit. H I see 2135 02:20:10.000 --> 02:20:11.879 the picture of them in ninety three. What are they 2136 02:20:11.920 --> 02:20:17.040 looking now? It doesn't matter. Four No Blonds so, of 2137 02:20:17.040 --> 02:20:19.200 course famously gave us what's going on? 2138 02:20:20.600 --> 02:20:25.399 And Linda Perry has had a bustling career as a 2139 02:20:25.440 --> 02:20:30.440 songwriter and producer since she's responsible for bringing Us Pink's 2140 02:20:30.479 --> 02:20:35.799 current down. Christina Aguilera and Gwen Stefani and Alicia Keys. 2141 02:20:36.520 --> 02:20:39.840 Did I hear Gwen Stefani has turned into him? Yes, 2142 02:20:40.040 --> 02:20:40.959 that's what I heard. 2143 02:20:41.079 --> 02:20:41.479 Yes. 2144 02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:43.920 In fact, I'm sorry I said her name just then, 2145 02:20:44.120 --> 02:20:45.520 because wasn't she Bathwater? 2146 02:20:45.879 --> 02:20:50.520 Yes? I've loved Gwen Stefani for so long, but now 2147 02:20:51.239 --> 02:20:55.000 I did too. Yeah, I know it's it's you know what, 2148 02:20:55.559 --> 02:21:00.079 nobody broke my heart more than Bette Midler, so you 2149 02:21:00.120 --> 02:21:03.959 know the what can the rest of them do to me? Exactly? 2150 02:21:04.079 --> 02:21:08.239 I idolized that woman? And yeah, then she just doubled 2151 02:21:08.239 --> 02:21:11.440 down on her Turphy ship we have seen. 2152 02:21:11.680 --> 02:21:11.799 Uh. 2153 02:21:12.200 --> 02:21:15.280 I can move on, exactly, I can move on. We 2154 02:21:15.360 --> 02:21:17.559 watched a lot of things together over the holiday season. 2155 02:21:17.600 --> 02:21:21.799 We did, and you know, I made you watch Come 2156 02:21:21.840 --> 02:21:23.959 See Me in the Good Light, which which was so good. 2157 02:21:24.159 --> 02:21:26.879 I know, the Andrea Gibson documentary, wasn't it. Yeah? 2158 02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:28.440 Well, I mean you're the reason why I know who 2159 02:21:28.440 --> 02:21:32.799 Andrew Gibson was, because we talked about her on this 2160 02:21:32.920 --> 02:21:36.319 show when she died, and that was my introduction to her. 2161 02:21:36.680 --> 02:21:41.639 Yeah, the documentary and God bless Tignatara, who was one 2162 02:21:41.639 --> 02:21:47.520 of the executive producers, Yeah for bringing this story to us. 2163 02:21:47.920 --> 02:21:50.200 I will say, you know, I am neither one of 2164 02:21:50.239 --> 02:21:54.479 us is a fan of Tignataro's comedy, just just her comedy, 2165 02:21:55.079 --> 02:21:58.799 her comedy. But tig Natara was a fucking badass. 2166 02:21:58.440 --> 02:22:02.200 Absolutely as an act to act and a human being 2167 02:22:02.520 --> 02:22:07.319 for sure. Hell, and you know, I love love love that, 2168 02:22:07.639 --> 02:22:12.680 you know we have this in the universe, that that 2169 02:22:13.000 --> 02:22:18.520 you know, because it's oh my god, It's just it's 2170 02:22:18.520 --> 02:22:23.479 so touching and inspiring and important. And I challenge you 2171 02:22:23.639 --> 02:22:29.239 not to just cry tears of varying all the tears, yeah, 2172 02:22:29.399 --> 02:22:32.799 joy and victory and sadness and life, because I was thinking, 2173 02:22:32.799 --> 02:22:37.000 I'm like, no, I cried for various reasons because that 2174 02:22:37.280 --> 02:22:41.559 was Andrea Gibson and and uh yeah, it's an important story. 2175 02:22:41.799 --> 02:22:45.280 I dear God, I love it. 2176 02:22:45.680 --> 02:22:48.600 I need to read more poetry, yes, because I keep 2177 02:22:48.680 --> 02:22:54.159 coming across these poets who like are amazing humans and 2178 02:22:54.719 --> 02:22:56.719 just have a way with words. I just I don't 2179 02:22:56.760 --> 02:22:58.680 read poetry like that for no other reason than I 2180 02:22:58.719 --> 02:23:03.639 just don't. I go towards like fiction and nonfiction and 2181 02:23:03.680 --> 02:23:05.440 things like that, but I never read poetry. 2182 02:23:05.440 --> 02:23:08.760 I need to get into that. Yeah, yeah you do. 2183 02:23:09.639 --> 02:23:14.200 Andrew Gibson amazing poet, amazing spoken words slam poet. Yeah, 2184 02:23:16.040 --> 02:23:19.280 you know, became a rock star in poetry, which I adore. 2185 02:23:20.159 --> 02:23:23.959 And come See Me in the Good Light is so 2186 02:23:24.120 --> 02:23:24.920 worth watching. 2187 02:23:25.200 --> 02:23:27.399 And you'd think someone that like writes poetry and his 2188 02:23:27.440 --> 02:23:29.600 performed poetry would be more of a reader. 2189 02:23:29.360 --> 02:23:32.200 Of I would think so. But I think I've seen 2190 02:23:32.200 --> 02:23:36.079 it four times now. It's a great film. Yep, I 2191 02:23:36.159 --> 02:23:37.079 went on a binge. 2192 02:23:37.479 --> 02:23:42.760 Yes, you were in your cooking movie bag for little while, right, 2193 02:23:42.799 --> 02:23:44.959 it's been that long since we've recorded. 2194 02:23:46.399 --> 02:23:51.360 I Food. Yes, I don't remember what started at. It 2195 02:23:51.399 --> 02:23:52.799 doesn't matter, I guess, but. 2196 02:23:53.440 --> 02:23:56.879 I think you were watching known As Again and well 2197 02:23:56.879 --> 02:23:59.040 that was one of the food movies you dove into. 2198 02:23:59.079 --> 02:24:02.520 The you might all so like, maybe that led you 2199 02:24:02.559 --> 02:24:03.239 in a rabbit hole. 2200 02:24:03.319 --> 02:24:06.760 And I rewatched Julie and Julia for the hundredth time, 2201 02:24:07.760 --> 02:24:08.200 and then you. 2202 02:24:08.120 --> 02:24:09.399 Were like, let's see what else is out there? 2203 02:24:09.479 --> 02:24:11.799 Tortilla Soup, which I. 2204 02:24:11.719 --> 02:24:15.040 Had been meaning to watch for however long, and we finally. 2205 02:24:14.719 --> 02:24:17.319 Watched it fabulous and Chef. 2206 02:24:17.639 --> 02:24:21.319 Also, Chef is a great movie. Also triumph of the 2207 02:24:21.360 --> 02:24:22.280 Human Spirit. 2208 02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:27.079 Film, that's my genre. That is a Martha movie. Yes, 2209 02:24:27.680 --> 02:24:30.959 a Triumph of the Human Spirit. It's a Martha movie 2210 02:24:31.600 --> 02:24:33.840 and they all were. But the head food is kind 2211 02:24:33.840 --> 02:24:35.639 of the theme. And I think I was cooking while 2212 02:24:35.639 --> 02:24:39.120 I was watching. Yes, yeah, it goes along with the 2213 02:24:39.120 --> 02:24:44.280 theme of me watching you know, hoarders and cleaning and 2214 02:24:44.319 --> 02:24:47.440 then watching Yeah, well Chef. 2215 02:24:47.479 --> 02:24:49.559 I had never heard of it. It's a comedy. It's 2216 02:24:49.680 --> 02:24:55.600 very funny, and you know, it's got a fabulous. 2217 02:24:55.120 --> 02:24:58.200 Cast, delightful film. 2218 02:24:58.600 --> 02:25:02.920 And I highly recommend it, like it'll make you hungry, Yeah, 2219 02:25:02.959 --> 02:25:06.040 it just will. Like basically, the premise was like this, 2220 02:25:06.479 --> 02:25:10.799 like rock Star, Chef got reamed in a. 2221 02:25:10.760 --> 02:25:15.000 Review because he did what the owner wanted. 2222 02:25:14.840 --> 02:25:19.600 Right, because he you know, didn't push himself forward into 2223 02:25:19.680 --> 02:25:21.520 his own stuff like he should have, and he was 2224 02:25:21.559 --> 02:25:24.520 doing what the owner wanted and played it safe, and 2225 02:25:24.600 --> 02:25:25.959 so he was like, well, fuck it, I'm gonna do 2226 02:25:26.000 --> 02:25:28.159 it my way. And he went around the country with 2227 02:25:28.280 --> 02:25:32.559 a food truck and had a journey. And it's a 2228 02:25:32.719 --> 02:25:35.879 film about family, it's a film about bravery, it's a 2229 02:25:35.879 --> 02:25:39.000 film about you know, doing your own thing. I highly 2230 02:25:39.040 --> 02:25:40.799 recommend it. I believe that's on what Prime. 2231 02:25:41.639 --> 02:25:45.280 I think it was. Yeah, yeah, but really good movie. 2232 02:25:45.520 --> 02:25:51.399 Yeah worth seeing. So anyway, food movies, great escape, Yes, 2233 02:25:52.040 --> 02:25:55.639 because I loved I cook to Yeah, I love to cook, 2234 02:25:55.879 --> 02:25:59.840 and you're highly suggestible. I am highly suggestible, but I do. 2235 02:26:00.120 --> 02:26:03.799 But I love cooking. And it's like the holidays. I 2236 02:26:03.799 --> 02:26:06.840 don't generally cook Hungarian food, but I do cook it 2237 02:26:06.879 --> 02:26:09.319 around Christmas time because I did it for so many years. 2238 02:26:09.319 --> 02:26:11.600 For Christmas, if we cook, you know, all the Hungarian 2239 02:26:11.600 --> 02:26:14.920 food came out and I and I was able to cook. 2240 02:26:15.239 --> 02:26:17.840 You know, I made stuff, cabbage and checking pupper crush 2241 02:26:17.920 --> 02:26:21.440 for for our friends over Christmas, and that was so good. 2242 02:26:21.879 --> 02:26:24.680 You know how I know you're you're so easily suggestible. 2243 02:26:25.639 --> 02:26:30.239 It is physically impossible for us to watch The Godfather 2244 02:26:30.799 --> 02:26:36.799 hmm without you, without you having to have Italian food. Fair, 2245 02:26:37.920 --> 02:26:40.920 It's not possible. It's never been the entire time we've 2246 02:26:40.920 --> 02:26:41.440 been together. 2247 02:26:41.520 --> 02:26:45.760 It has not been every time, every single That is 2248 02:26:45.799 --> 02:26:51.280 not a complaint, by the way, I'm just saying good 2249 02:26:52.399 --> 02:26:54.479 Italy Italians taught me how to cook it time. 2250 02:26:54.799 --> 02:26:57.079 No, it's I get to eat your Italian food. So 2251 02:26:57.440 --> 02:26:58.920 I'm not complaining, just saying it. 2252 02:26:59.040 --> 02:27:04.479 Always happened, totally, totally. I'm like, oh, yeah, somebody was 2253 02:27:04.479 --> 02:27:06.159 eating a taco the other day. I'm like, I need 2254 02:27:06.159 --> 02:27:11.440 a talk Yep, it happens often. I love food, so 2255 02:27:11.479 --> 02:27:17.200 apparently I'm food motivated. Much like our dogs. I go 2256 02:27:17.200 --> 02:27:21.159 peeps where I'm supposed to go too, as long as 2257 02:27:21.159 --> 02:27:21.959 there's good food. 2258 02:27:24.680 --> 02:27:26.399 I'm not mad at you about it, and didn't have 2259 02:27:26.440 --> 02:27:29.200 to kick you out of bed to press the point. 2260 02:27:31.159 --> 02:27:35.920 I'm just saying I don't know what's next. Oh wake up. 2261 02:27:35.959 --> 02:27:40.159 Dead Man is the latest entry in the Knives Out 2262 02:27:41.440 --> 02:27:45.120 milliere as it were, we watched it. 2263 02:27:45.120 --> 02:27:49.280 It was about the. 2264 02:27:47.920 --> 02:27:52.280 There was a murder of a priest and the priest 2265 02:27:52.399 --> 02:27:56.280 was like beloved, slash feared, and it became a mystery 2266 02:27:56.520 --> 02:28:00.879 because it was like who did it? Who didn't do it? Okay, 2267 02:28:01.440 --> 02:28:03.239 Kerrie Washington was in it. 2268 02:28:03.639 --> 02:28:05.399 Okay, you don't remember this at all? 2269 02:28:05.479 --> 02:28:05.520 Do? 2270 02:28:06.799 --> 02:28:10.000 It was good, but of the Knives Out. 2271 02:28:10.159 --> 02:28:14.840 Films, it was my least favorite. Okay, yeah, it goes 2272 02:28:15.600 --> 02:28:17.760 the glass Onion Knives out. 2273 02:28:17.879 --> 02:28:22.920 Oh right, Catholics onion Yeah, okay, that's right, I remember 2274 02:28:22.959 --> 02:28:24.920 that part. Yeah, it's a good film. 2275 02:28:25.000 --> 02:28:28.879 I recommend checking it out, but if you're watching it 2276 02:28:28.920 --> 02:28:30.840 to be a completionist, it's not. 2277 02:28:31.360 --> 02:28:35.000 It wasn't my favorite of the lot. Okay, we were. 2278 02:28:35.159 --> 02:28:38.280 You were binging several series and each time you had 2279 02:28:38.280 --> 02:28:40.840 to stop for various reasons. 2280 02:28:41.440 --> 02:28:44.040 I put that in here because I thought it was interesting. 2281 02:28:44.600 --> 02:28:47.159 Yeah I needed a pause. 2282 02:28:47.520 --> 02:28:50.120 Yeah, because you were binge watching The West Wing, which 2283 02:28:50.200 --> 02:28:51.799 I never really watched like that. 2284 02:28:52.840 --> 02:28:55.600 Yeah, I love the one. It got so depressing. It's 2285 02:28:55.680 --> 02:28:59.799 sad now because the idea of having all smart people 2286 02:28:59.799 --> 02:29:06.000 and charge who care about the government, who want to govern, well, yeah. 2287 02:29:05.639 --> 02:29:11.159 The West Wing was supposed to be a fictionalized insider 2288 02:29:11.319 --> 02:29:16.000 look into what was happening in the White House and 2289 02:29:16.159 --> 02:29:19.120 people that like, you know, are making our government go 2290 02:29:19.600 --> 02:29:22.680 and the conversations that take place and the decisions that 2291 02:29:22.760 --> 02:29:25.040 get made. But it's all under the assignment. 2292 02:29:25.159 --> 02:29:29.399 You watch it right now on Netflix and don't cry. 2293 02:29:29.840 --> 02:29:33.799 You're not exactly like people who like care so much 2294 02:29:33.840 --> 02:29:38.200 about democracy and right doing a good job and being 2295 02:29:38.440 --> 02:29:43.920 smart And oh my god, it made me so Sadau'm like, 2296 02:29:43.920 --> 02:29:45.360 this feels like historical fiction. 2297 02:29:45.159 --> 02:29:46.719 Now I know, and I forget why I had to 2298 02:29:46.760 --> 02:29:48.440 take a pause, but I think that's a big part 2299 02:29:48.440 --> 02:29:50.879 of it. It was just it got sad, so fucking 2300 02:29:51.000 --> 02:29:55.680 sad that right now, none of that matters. 2301 02:29:55.959 --> 02:29:59.840 Yeah, you know you were having trouble sleeping. 2302 02:30:00.479 --> 02:30:02.600 Oh that's right. I was. That's right. I was because 2303 02:30:02.600 --> 02:30:07.200 I was watching that and going I, yeah, I couldn't 2304 02:30:07.200 --> 02:30:11.959 fall sleep because it just breaks my heart. You know 2305 02:30:12.000 --> 02:30:16.360 that we have people, unseerious, people in charge of very 2306 02:30:16.399 --> 02:30:20.600 serious things right now, and they do not have anyone's 2307 02:30:20.600 --> 02:30:27.639 best interest at heart. They are cynically not human, and 2308 02:30:27.959 --> 02:30:33.639 it's just it's so sad. The closer I stopped watching 2309 02:30:33.680 --> 02:30:37.200 because I got to the episode where boat Bridges was 2310 02:30:37.399 --> 02:30:43.879 playing a trans woman and some of the language out 2311 02:30:43.879 --> 02:30:46.159 of all the characters you know in Contact the time, 2312 02:30:46.239 --> 02:30:49.280 and I get it, but I was just like, you 2313 02:30:49.520 --> 02:30:52.239 need to do that to yourself. Yeah, because I was 2314 02:30:52.280 --> 02:30:56.040 just enjoying it as like, you know, a distraction, and 2315 02:30:56.079 --> 02:31:00.120 then it became not distracting and I got annoyed. At 2316 02:31:00.120 --> 02:31:02.319 the point where I become annoyed, I was like, yeah, 2317 02:31:02.440 --> 02:31:08.440 this is no longer sousing, And not that he didn't 2318 02:31:08.479 --> 02:31:15.000 play the character well, but again, of course they found 2319 02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:19.760 a he to play a trans woman and it was 2320 02:31:19.760 --> 02:31:26.159 played the joke. The reaction of the regular characters was. 2321 02:31:27.920 --> 02:31:31.159 Not pretty, not played as a joke, but included as 2322 02:31:31.200 --> 02:31:31.520 a joke. 2323 02:31:33.680 --> 02:31:40.680 Right dismissed funny you know he he he, and I 2324 02:31:40.680 --> 02:31:43.959 say he because it was both. Bridges came back for 2325 02:31:44.079 --> 02:31:46.600 a trial of a case that he had been a 2326 02:31:46.600 --> 02:31:51.600 detective one but now he's a trans woman, and Lieutenant 2327 02:31:51.639 --> 02:31:57.079 Prevenza gets mad because she won't just dress like a 2328 02:31:57.120 --> 02:32:01.600 man to test to find the way God in tender 2329 02:32:01.760 --> 02:32:06.760 because that's how being trans works obviously. Yeah, So anyway, 2330 02:32:07.000 --> 02:32:11.159 it got and I went, Okay, this is no longer 2331 02:32:11.479 --> 02:32:15.399 a distraction, so I stopped right and Karas Sedwick said 2332 02:32:15.440 --> 02:32:20.200 some stuff. Anyway, I stopped that, or at least paused it. 2333 02:32:21.440 --> 02:32:27.319 We have been watching Mom, I Forget, I love Alison Johnny. 2334 02:32:27.399 --> 02:32:31.120 It's hysterical. But you were like, okay, enough of. 2335 02:32:32.760 --> 02:32:36.799 Yeah, there was this thing, and I'm realizing when we're 2336 02:32:36.840 --> 02:32:39.239 watching these shows that they weren't meant to be binged. 2337 02:32:39.360 --> 02:32:43.319 They were meant to be watched one week at a time. Right, 2338 02:32:44.040 --> 02:32:47.280 When you watch certain shows as a binge, you start 2339 02:32:47.360 --> 02:32:52.959 to notice the quirks of the characters. It becomes heavy 2340 02:32:53.399 --> 02:32:55.879 and the same thing with Karas Sedgwick in The Closer 2341 02:32:56.000 --> 02:32:58.559 was the same thing that was happening with Alison, Janny 2342 02:32:58.879 --> 02:33:03.159 and Mom. This whole like emotionally stunted. 2343 02:33:02.920 --> 02:33:06.959 Not as much her, but the doorter. I think, well, 2344 02:33:07.120 --> 02:33:07.600 both of them. 2345 02:33:07.760 --> 02:33:11.079 Yeah, emotionally stunted. I'm running for my emotions. 2346 02:33:11.559 --> 02:33:12.040 I can't. 2347 02:33:12.479 --> 02:33:15.719 I can't verbalize what I'm feeling because I'm afraid, and 2348 02:33:15.799 --> 02:33:19.959 so I'm gonna make stupid decisions because rather than just 2349 02:33:20.079 --> 02:33:22.000 say what I'm feeling or do what I'm feeling and 2350 02:33:22.079 --> 02:33:24.559 admit that I feel this way, I'm going to run 2351 02:33:24.600 --> 02:33:26.920 away and do the opposite. It got on my fucking 2352 02:33:27.000 --> 02:33:28.280 nerves and I couldn't fucking take it. 2353 02:33:28.760 --> 02:33:32.280 I adore me and Me Kennedy and her character of Margie, 2354 02:33:32.680 --> 02:33:36.440 and I will say it. It does a lot of 2355 02:33:36.520 --> 02:33:40.920 it depicts recovery pretty accurate, yes, But I was even 2356 02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:45.200 yelling at them because you know boundaries like yes, we're 2357 02:33:45.239 --> 02:33:49.520 supposed to be there for each other and right no, 2358 02:33:49.719 --> 02:33:53.159 sometimes the answer is I'm not coming right now. You 2359 02:33:53.319 --> 02:33:56.440 need to sit with your actions while I live my life. 2360 02:33:56.959 --> 02:33:59.719 And there wasn't enough of that. There were too many 2361 02:33:59.760 --> 02:34:01.200 times so when it was like, oh, I have to 2362 02:34:01.280 --> 02:34:04.920 go right, and it's like, yeah, we do that, you 2363 02:34:05.000 --> 02:34:09.760 know what I mean, like especially in AA, but there 2364 02:34:09.879 --> 02:34:13.000 wasn't some balance in some of what I need. But anyway, 2365 02:34:13.079 --> 02:34:16.360 it's it's really well done, and it's really funny. It's 2366 02:34:16.440 --> 02:34:17.159 a funny show. 2367 02:34:17.159 --> 02:34:18.319 It's something funny. 2368 02:34:19.479 --> 02:34:24.280 Some of it is dead on with addiction. The writing 2369 02:34:24.440 --> 02:34:26.000 is really good because like it is good. 2370 02:34:26.159 --> 02:34:28.680 It's not a lot of shows where every single episode 2371 02:34:28.760 --> 02:34:32.479 makes me laugh out loud, and that's one of them. 2372 02:34:32.760 --> 02:34:35.159 It pretty much does. Yeah, but sometimes you're right. It 2373 02:34:35.280 --> 02:34:38.600 goes to the extreme so often that it's like, oh, come. 2374 02:34:38.440 --> 02:34:41.959 On, right, he said he loves me, So I have 2375 02:34:42.120 --> 02:34:44.639 to run to the opposite side of the country because. 2376 02:34:44.360 --> 02:34:46.680 I yeah, but then I have to run back because 2377 02:34:46.719 --> 02:34:49.920 my friend got drunk, right yeah, and I have to 2378 02:34:50.000 --> 02:34:53.719 leave him in the lurch because yeah, I can't let 2379 02:34:53.799 --> 02:34:56.639 my friends sit with the consequences of their own action 2380 02:34:58.479 --> 02:35:02.879 like that. Yeah. So anyway, but oh, I mean, mom, 2381 02:35:03.040 --> 02:35:05.399 is it is fun. It is a funny It is 2382 02:35:05.479 --> 02:35:08.559 good fun. But I had to pause that too, You're right, anyway, 2383 02:35:09.159 --> 02:35:14.319 I had a pause, will go back, but then it 2384 02:35:14.440 --> 02:35:15.719 took me back to law and order. 2385 02:35:15.840 --> 02:35:18.680 So right, because you the whole time you were watching that. 2386 02:35:18.760 --> 02:35:20.760 You weren't watching new episodes of your Law and Order, right, 2387 02:35:20.840 --> 02:35:22.079 so your Laws and Order? 2388 02:35:22.319 --> 02:35:26.239 Yeah, I caught up with yeah, Law and Order and 2389 02:35:26.479 --> 02:35:30.399 SVU and Organized Crime, which is now a peacock series. 2390 02:35:31.600 --> 02:35:35.680 Curse now yeah, so yeah, because I'm like, because what 2391 02:35:35.799 --> 02:35:38.399 the fuck are you talking about? Whoa whoa Wow? I 2392 02:35:38.479 --> 02:35:41.479 didn't even I didn't notice until you went did she 2393 02:35:41.639 --> 02:35:42.239 just say fuck? 2394 02:35:42.440 --> 02:35:42.600 Right? 2395 02:35:42.760 --> 02:35:47.280 And I'm like, yeah, oh oh yeah yeah because it 2396 02:35:47.680 --> 02:35:49.719 they say it where it fits and where somebody, of 2397 02:35:49.799 --> 02:35:52.520 course would have said fuck. And it made me realize 2398 02:35:52.520 --> 02:35:55.840 how many times you know they don't curse when somebody 2399 02:35:55.920 --> 02:35:58.760 would have yeah, right, they are now a peacock. 2400 02:35:58.879 --> 02:36:01.200 I'm waiting to hear Olivia Benson say fuck, but she 2401 02:36:01.319 --> 02:36:01.559 might not. 2402 02:36:03.239 --> 02:36:06.760 Uh yeah, I don't think so. I don't see that happening. 2403 02:36:06.920 --> 02:36:09.040 I don't know, we'll say I would love it. I 2404 02:36:09.079 --> 02:36:09.399 don't know. 2405 02:36:11.280 --> 02:36:12.559 What the fuck is wrong with you? 2406 02:36:13.120 --> 02:36:15.360 Right? He did? He did? Oh? 2407 02:36:15.440 --> 02:36:18.840 We watched Heated Rivalry and I made you watch. 2408 02:36:18.680 --> 02:36:21.120 One because you were like eh, And then I was 2409 02:36:21.200 --> 02:36:22.879 like the episode that made me cry. 2410 02:36:22.920 --> 02:36:25.600 I'm like, you have to watch this one right, because 2411 02:36:25.600 --> 02:36:27.799 I was like, okay, it's you have to come back 2412 02:36:27.959 --> 02:36:29.120 hockey themed gay porn. 2413 02:36:29.239 --> 02:36:31.559 Great, all right, fine, basically I mean, you know, I 2414 02:36:31.639 --> 02:36:34.639 mean softcre obviously softcore, right, I. 2415 02:36:34.639 --> 02:36:37.239 Mean it was it was hot because HBO, like, okay, 2416 02:36:37.399 --> 02:36:40.120 but you knows only for HBO. 2417 02:36:40.159 --> 02:36:41.319 It's a little disappointing. 2418 02:36:41.360 --> 02:36:42.959 Actually, there was only so much of it that I 2419 02:36:43.440 --> 02:36:48.600 cared to watch, right because you know, I know, but 2420 02:36:48.680 --> 02:36:50.760 it got good, right, it got good? 2421 02:36:50.959 --> 02:36:52.600 No, it really at the end of the season. It 2422 02:36:52.680 --> 02:36:54.079 got really good once. 2423 02:36:53.920 --> 02:36:56.920 It reached deeper than the superficial. 2424 02:36:57.079 --> 02:37:00.360 Yeah, the last couple episodes, but you need the rest 2425 02:37:00.399 --> 02:37:02.719 of it to build to that. I think I agree, 2426 02:37:03.200 --> 02:37:06.319 But I was getting it was getting tedious to me 2427 02:37:06.440 --> 02:37:09.200 because it was just like a chronology of they get 2428 02:37:09.239 --> 02:37:11.440 together and then time passes, and then they get together 2429 02:37:11.479 --> 02:37:15.559 and time passes, and their rivals. But yeah, the last 2430 02:37:15.639 --> 02:37:18.159 come here, go away, Come here, go away. Right, got 2431 02:37:18.479 --> 02:37:19.440 got really good. 2432 02:37:19.760 --> 02:37:22.440 That's the ship I hate, and maybe cry it was 2433 02:37:23.000 --> 02:37:25.559 it and the end is worth it, the journey is 2434 02:37:25.600 --> 02:37:25.879 worth it. 2435 02:37:26.079 --> 02:37:31.000 It is And then you have a note here, Hudson 2436 02:37:31.040 --> 02:37:34.600 Williams says, closeted pro athletes have d m him. 2437 02:37:35.200 --> 02:37:40.360 Oh yeah since the show aired. Okay, yeah, and there 2438 02:37:40.440 --> 02:37:43.159 the same thing it's like we can't come out, but 2439 02:37:43.799 --> 02:37:49.159 we do appreciate, you know, the realistic portrayal of the show. 2440 02:37:49.479 --> 02:37:55.680 Right right, Okay, okay, because I do. Yeah, And it's 2441 02:37:55.719 --> 02:37:56.079 not just. 2442 02:37:56.120 --> 02:37:59.440 Hockey but baseball players, football players. 2443 02:38:01.079 --> 02:38:05.799 Right right, because and you do get a taste of that, 2444 02:38:06.040 --> 02:38:10.840 you get a you know, and a more understanding of that, 2445 02:38:11.159 --> 02:38:13.200 you know, in masculinity and what we have to say 2446 02:38:13.200 --> 02:38:17.040 about masculinity. And the last couple episodes made it worth it. 2447 02:38:17.639 --> 02:38:20.559 NHL, the Hockey League is the only men's pro league 2448 02:38:20.600 --> 02:38:23.200 to never have a current or former player publicly come 2449 02:38:23.239 --> 02:38:23.639 out as gag. 2450 02:38:23.799 --> 02:38:27.959 That is correct, which but maybe if you watch the 2451 02:38:28.120 --> 02:38:35.959 last two episodes, you'll feel better, right right? It does good. 2452 02:38:36.079 --> 02:38:39.159 Of course, if it's queer and it's anywhere available, we're 2453 02:38:39.159 --> 02:38:41.760 going to watch it because, you know, while we still 2454 02:38:41.879 --> 02:38:46.639 can right in Merca. But I like where it landed. 2455 02:38:47.120 --> 02:38:49.639 I can't wait for the next season. I think there's 2456 02:38:49.719 --> 02:38:51.879 going to be one, right, Really, it's not confirmed. I 2457 02:38:52.000 --> 02:38:54.680 thought I thought the next season was confirmed. I could 2458 02:38:54.719 --> 02:38:56.399 be wrong. How would that work? 2459 02:38:56.479 --> 02:38:59.000 Unless they follow I don't think it's so far different? 2460 02:38:59.040 --> 02:39:03.079 People? No, are we stick with Yeah? You could stick 2461 02:39:03.120 --> 02:39:05.799 with them? I mean I don't know. I'll watch it. 2462 02:39:06.000 --> 02:39:11.319 I could be wrong anyway, watch it. Yeah, I like 2463 02:39:11.399 --> 02:39:14.319 where it ended. It made me feel good about life, 2464 02:39:14.600 --> 02:39:17.079 and you know, we need more of that, not less. 2465 02:39:17.799 --> 02:39:19.840 On the flip side of that, on the flip side 2466 02:39:19.879 --> 02:39:22.520 of that, we finally watched the Ditty reckoning. Yeah, the 2467 02:39:22.600 --> 02:39:28.079 fifty cents Petty, Oh my, Like, what do we even 2468 02:39:28.120 --> 02:39:35.760 call that? I opening, disturbing, unsettling. Where to leave you? 2469 02:39:36.680 --> 02:39:40.440 I mean, none of what I saw was really surprising. 2470 02:39:41.840 --> 02:39:47.200 I didn't really learn anything like details, but you know, 2471 02:39:47.319 --> 02:39:52.200 it's like, for years I've heard about how Diddy is 2472 02:39:52.360 --> 02:39:58.120 like draconian about his contracts and the way he treats 2473 02:39:58.280 --> 02:40:04.479 artists and artists not getting paid and artists being intimidated. 2474 02:40:05.600 --> 02:40:10.239 Now the lengths to which this intimidation went, I okay, 2475 02:40:10.280 --> 02:40:16.840 I did learn a little bit there, and it's it's 2476 02:40:16.920 --> 02:40:21.360 a shame because you know, he definitely did work hard 2477 02:40:21.440 --> 02:40:23.120 to get where he was, but once he got there, 2478 02:40:23.200 --> 02:40:25.000 it's like he forgot how to be human. 2479 02:40:26.000 --> 02:40:27.159 You know, It's. 2480 02:40:29.120 --> 02:40:31.520 It's a lot's he deserves to be where he's at. 2481 02:40:32.079 --> 02:40:34.239 So I guess if I was going to ask a quote, 2482 02:40:34.239 --> 02:40:39.159 I'm trying to figure out how to formulate it because 2483 02:40:39.920 --> 02:40:42.680 one of the things that I think we did discuss 2484 02:40:42.760 --> 02:40:47.559 a little bit, you know what of the idea we 2485 02:40:47.639 --> 02:40:56.040 have so few success stories like his, and then there's 2486 02:40:56.159 --> 02:40:58.559 the urge to not tear them down because of that, 2487 02:40:59.399 --> 02:41:03.840 because he's an example, a role model. And I mean, 2488 02:41:03.920 --> 02:41:06.120 to me, I'm just watching another human being be a 2489 02:41:06.239 --> 02:41:10.680 human being. But there is that notion, you know, like 2490 02:41:10.799 --> 02:41:11.760 there goes another hero. 2491 02:41:12.639 --> 02:41:15.280 Well, I don't know that I would ever have called 2492 02:41:15.559 --> 02:41:16.360 Didy a hero. 2493 02:41:16.479 --> 02:41:19.479 Though some dude, some would, well, yeah. 2494 02:41:19.479 --> 02:41:22.920 Because there is that whole thing of black exceptionalism and. 2495 02:41:24.760 --> 02:41:26.200 If he can do it, so might I. 2496 02:41:26.520 --> 02:41:27.879 But at the same time, you got to look at 2497 02:41:29.280 --> 02:41:31.879 black excellence, but also like how did he get there? 2498 02:41:32.559 --> 02:41:36.399 And one could argue there's never been a billionaire that 2499 02:41:36.639 --> 02:41:40.479 got there by being completely ethical and reputable the entire time. 2500 02:41:42.079 --> 02:41:44.760 And I say that knowing that Beyonce. 2501 02:41:44.559 --> 02:41:50.680 Is a billionaire. So is Rihanna. Rihanna's a billionaire. Taylors 2502 02:41:50.719 --> 02:41:54.120 with she got knocked around by Chris Brown, speaking of 2503 02:41:54.200 --> 02:41:58.840 what we saw that documentary too, We did, we watched 2504 02:41:58.920 --> 02:42:02.680 that too. Now that being said, let me backtrack a 2505 02:42:02.760 --> 02:42:05.879 little bit on what I just said, because. 2506 02:42:07.000 --> 02:42:11.360 Like I'm thinking of Rihanna and Beyonce, it is possible 2507 02:42:12.159 --> 02:42:14.680 that they could have amassed that amount of money organically 2508 02:42:14.879 --> 02:42:18.040 because like with Rihanna, you have your music sales, but 2509 02:42:18.159 --> 02:42:22.840 she also has her her her makeup, her beauty line, 2510 02:42:22.879 --> 02:42:28.360 her laingerie line. Like, organically it could happen. I guess 2511 02:42:29.639 --> 02:42:33.440 same with Beyonce. Besides the music, there's the the tours, 2512 02:42:33.639 --> 02:42:38.360 there's the perfume, there's the hair care, there's the clothing line. 2513 02:42:38.399 --> 02:42:44.159 It's possible. Well, and you've talked about, you know, one 2514 02:42:44.200 --> 02:42:49.639 of the most ethical people in music in terms of sampling. Oh, 2515 02:42:49.680 --> 02:42:53.319 you're getting folks paid well, just like T. S. 2516 02:42:53.440 --> 02:42:59.920 Madison just posted because her voice was used on cos 2517 02:43:00.159 --> 02:43:02.600 one of the tracks on the Renaissance album really and 2518 02:43:02.719 --> 02:43:06.000 so because of that, TS Madison is listed as. 2519 02:43:05.920 --> 02:43:09.920 A songwriter, which is what Beyonce does for everyone, right, 2520 02:43:10.280 --> 02:43:10.799 I love that. 2521 02:43:11.000 --> 02:43:14.920 And that particular track has just reached one million units. 2522 02:43:16.079 --> 02:43:20.399 So now TS Madison is a songwriter of a song 2523 02:43:20.639 --> 02:43:24.079 that has reached one million units sold, So she gets 2524 02:43:24.120 --> 02:43:26.399 a plaque, she gets you know what I'm saying, Like they. 2525 02:43:26.360 --> 02:43:29.239 All love that part of that. I love that, you know, Like, 2526 02:43:29.520 --> 02:43:32.360 but that's what I'm saying right. That's someone who goes 2527 02:43:32.479 --> 02:43:37.239 out of her way right to make that happen, right, 2528 02:43:38.559 --> 02:43:41.639 so you know, to kind of and you know, make 2529 02:43:41.719 --> 02:43:43.760 up for all the time that people did all the 2530 02:43:43.879 --> 02:43:48.440 work and you know the record company made the money, right, Yeah, 2531 02:43:48.520 --> 02:43:50.399 I do. I do appreciate that. Like I said, I 2532 02:43:50.520 --> 02:43:54.440 used to be. So she's making other people wealthy while she. 2533 02:43:54.559 --> 02:43:56.879 Gets right, which is why I'm more inclined to believe that, 2534 02:43:57.159 --> 02:44:00.399 you know, she might have achieved her billionaire status organically, 2535 02:44:00.479 --> 02:44:01.280 if that's possible. 2536 02:44:01.520 --> 02:44:05.360 Perhaps we could talk about men who are billionaires versus women. 2537 02:44:05.760 --> 02:44:09.319 Yea, her husband for instance, we all know he started 2538 02:44:10.319 --> 02:44:11.360 with drug money. 2539 02:44:11.760 --> 02:44:17.479 Sure so, but that's yeah, But I mean I'm not 2540 02:44:17.600 --> 02:44:20.520 talking about that about what you what. I'm talking about Diddy, 2541 02:44:20.559 --> 02:44:22.200 who was kind of a shit human. 2542 02:44:22.000 --> 02:44:25.040 Being, right, Oh yeah? Did he got to billionaire status 2543 02:44:25.079 --> 02:44:26.719 because he never gave any of the money to his 2544 02:44:26.799 --> 02:44:29.639 own That's different. He kept it all. If you're only 2545 02:44:29.760 --> 02:44:32.479 paying one person and that person is yeah, you can 2546 02:44:32.559 --> 02:44:33.639 be a millionaire. 2547 02:44:33.719 --> 02:44:37.920 I'm talking about that, Okay. The hesitancy. You know, sometimes 2548 02:44:38.040 --> 02:44:42.399 we have right to tell the truth about a human right, 2549 02:44:42.680 --> 02:44:48.600 because they're both dynamic and terrible. Yeah, two things can 2550 02:44:48.680 --> 02:44:51.799 be true at the same time they can we know 2551 02:44:52.000 --> 02:44:57.639 several right show, Yeah, but we've participated in that, like well, 2552 02:44:57.920 --> 02:45:01.200 you know, if they're vict don't want to speak out, 2553 02:45:01.399 --> 02:45:05.360 who are we to, you know, because they also do 2554 02:45:05.520 --> 02:45:09.159 great things for the community. It happens, whatever the community, 2555 02:45:09.239 --> 02:45:11.360 it happens, you know. 2556 02:45:11.680 --> 02:45:15.959 And how many checks did Bill Cosby write to support 2557 02:45:16.399 --> 02:45:19.719 educational institutions so did. 2558 02:45:19.840 --> 02:45:26.559 The Yeah, perhaps I'm getting too philosophical, and it means 2559 02:45:26.680 --> 02:45:27.239 we need to. 2560 02:45:28.879 --> 02:45:31.879 So the last thing on our list we watched last night, 2561 02:45:31.959 --> 02:45:34.959 One Battle after Another, which I have been trying to 2562 02:45:34.959 --> 02:45:36.000 get you to watch forever. 2563 02:45:37.000 --> 02:45:38.120 It was very good. 2564 02:45:39.639 --> 02:45:45.159 I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm still not sure how we 2565 02:45:45.280 --> 02:45:50.680 have all this Oscar buzz over Leonardo DiCaprio over Michael B. Jordan, 2566 02:45:50.719 --> 02:45:54.079 who played not one, not two, but three parts true, 2567 02:45:55.319 --> 02:45:59.639 but you know, but Leonardo DiCaprio played like a version. 2568 02:45:59.399 --> 02:46:04.120 Of the do So therefore it was good. It was 2569 02:46:04.239 --> 02:46:08.200 very good. It was good. It was an interesting twist 2570 02:46:08.360 --> 02:46:11.159 and layers, and I'm not sorry I watched it. 2571 02:46:11.440 --> 02:46:14.840 No, and the movie is damn near three hours long. 2572 02:46:14.959 --> 02:46:17.360 It is two hours and forty something minutes. I'm aware 2573 02:46:17.559 --> 02:46:20.479 it doesn't feel like it though, like the pacing of 2574 02:46:20.600 --> 02:46:23.840 the story, it did not feel like also well, it 2575 02:46:23.920 --> 02:46:26.680 didn't drag, but he had to keep pausing and doing 2576 02:46:26.840 --> 02:46:27.639 things right. 2577 02:46:27.760 --> 02:46:30.000 But I was aware that it was three hours. I 2578 02:46:30.159 --> 02:46:33.600 was aware that it was over two hours. It did. 2579 02:46:33.680 --> 02:46:36.479 I'm not saying it drug, No, I'm just saying I 2580 02:46:36.600 --> 02:46:37.559 was aware of the length. 2581 02:46:38.520 --> 02:46:41.959 But it didn't feel as long as I don't. 2582 02:46:41.799 --> 02:46:43.040 Feel like I've wasted my time. 2583 02:46:43.239 --> 02:46:45.799 Right, What was the John we watched last year also 2584 02:46:45.840 --> 02:46:50.319 with Leonardocaprio about the murders and the Native American reservation, 2585 02:46:51.920 --> 02:46:53.239 The Killers of the Flower Moon. 2586 02:46:53.760 --> 02:46:55.360 That movie was four hours long. 2587 02:46:55.719 --> 02:47:01.600 Again, very good. Don't regret watching it. It was fabulous. 2588 02:47:02.719 --> 02:47:06.079 I felt that time. Not saying it drug, I'm just 2589 02:47:06.159 --> 02:47:10.879 saying it was long. This the pacing was a little faster. 2590 02:47:11.399 --> 02:47:11.879 A little bit. 2591 02:47:13.159 --> 02:47:16.879 It was still long, but still I highly recommend it. 2592 02:47:17.520 --> 02:47:19.920 At the end of it, I went, Okay, Tiana Taylor 2593 02:47:20.520 --> 02:47:21.479 like she put in work. 2594 02:47:21.760 --> 02:47:28.000 I mean again, we could argue best film. Mmm, but good. 2595 02:47:28.280 --> 02:47:31.840 It was good. Yeah, I liked it. I thought it was. Yes. 2596 02:47:31.959 --> 02:47:35.360 Michael Patrot Michael B. Jordan played three characters. He needs 2597 02:47:35.399 --> 02:47:37.959 to win all the awards, one would think, but who 2598 02:47:38.079 --> 02:47:39.399 knows because I forgot. 2599 02:47:39.479 --> 02:47:41.719 But yeah, because everyone always says he's playing two roles 2600 02:47:41.719 --> 02:47:44.079 because he's playing twins, we forget. He also played one 2601 02:47:44.079 --> 02:47:45.719 of the twins as a vampire. 2602 02:47:45.520 --> 02:47:50.120 Which is a different character. That's right. Also true, three characters, 2603 02:47:51.159 --> 02:47:52.920 also true. Child. 2604 02:47:54.000 --> 02:47:57.600 Anyway, this has been a jam packed. 2605 02:47:57.760 --> 02:48:00.799 We've been all over the place. Don't record for a 2606 02:48:00.879 --> 02:48:04.719 month exactly. We really are going to try to get 2607 02:48:04.760 --> 02:48:09.200 the back to this being more regular. Uh, you know, 2608 02:48:09.440 --> 02:48:14.120 we'll add fiber and I don't know water. Let's see 2609 02:48:14.120 --> 02:48:19.600 what happens. But in the meantime, we're also doing self care. Yes, 2610 02:48:20.079 --> 02:48:24.280 we also paused to enjoy the holidays and friends and 2611 02:48:24.440 --> 02:48:30.079 loved ones. Yeah, and launch a merchandise line. 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You get access to all of our episodes 2633 02:49:42.760 --> 02:49:45.760 add free and before everyone else, and it only gets 2634 02:49:45.840 --> 02:49:46.440 better from there. 2635 02:49:47.159 --> 02:49:47.600 It's fun. 2636 02:49:47.680 --> 02:49:50.559 Over at the Patreon, you can also check out our 2637 02:49:50.639 --> 02:49:54.040 Discord channel Full Circle the Podcast. 2638 02:49:55.040 --> 02:50:01.239 Podcast business over. I want to thank you for joining up. Yes, 2639 02:50:01.440 --> 02:50:04.200 we love you, and we've been all over the place today. 2640 02:50:04.319 --> 02:50:06.920 We missed you and we hope you missed us. We 2641 02:50:07.040 --> 02:50:09.879 do love you, and yeah, I can't promise it's going 2642 02:50:09.959 --> 02:50:15.280 to get any more entertaining, because shit keeps happening Yeah, 2643 02:50:15.399 --> 02:50:18.639 but we're going to keep being here for it and 2644 02:50:19.799 --> 02:50:23.239 try to bring you some humanity along with the complete 2645 02:50:23.319 --> 02:50:28.479 lack of it. Yeah, how about that that works? Queerly yours, 2646 02:50:29.840 --> 02:50:33.760 until next time, I'm your host Martha Madrigal, and I'm 2647 02:50:33.799 --> 02:50:36.360 your host Charles Tyson Jr. And you've been listening to 2648 02:50:36.520 --> 02:50:42.040 Full Circle the podcast. We'll see you next time. Bye everyone. 2649 02:50:43.879 --> 02:50:47.399 Full Circle is a Never Scurred Productions podcast hosted by 2650 02:50:47.520 --> 02:50:50.959 Charles Tyson Junior and Martha Madrigal, Produced and edited by 2651 02:50:51.120 --> 02:50:55.239 Never Scurred Executive Produced by Charles Tyson Junior and Martha Madrigal. 2652 02:50:55.559 --> 02:51:00.319 Our theme in music is by the Jingle Aries. All names, pictures, music, audio, 2653 02:51:00.399 --> 02:51:03.680 and video clips are registered trademarks and or copyrights of 2654 02:51:03.680 --> 02:51:05.559 their respective copyright holders.