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I guess if you've had a record of corruption and
failure for as many years as the North Carolina Democrat
Party has, then I guess it makes sense that you
would have to rely on a whole bunch of funding
for your campaign victories from out of state donors. But
I don't think this is a healthy sign for the
North Carolina Democrats or the Democracy.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's.
Speaker 2: Generally a good idea to have a state party propped
up by out of state interests because you're short circuiting
the market signals, if you will right, the local market
is telling you that you stink. They don't like you,
they don't want what you're selling, what you're offering, they
have no interest in electing you or your people and
that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: So they don't want to give you any money.
Speaker 2: They don't trust you to run campaigns, they don't trust
you to win, right, and so you in your efforts
to win, despite the market signals telling you that your
messaging is awful, your policies are awful, people don't want
you to enact them. You then go outside the state
to collect a whole bunch of money for a couple
of candidates, and then those candidates funnel a whole bunch
of that money into the state party, which apparently is
then unable to actually, you know, turn that cash into votes.
Oh if only vote buying were that easy. The North
Carolina Democrat Party. This is a piece over at the
Federalist dot com, but it relies on research done by
the John Locke Foundation who went through and analyzed the
campaign contributions from the twenty twenty four election cycle and
the Democrat Party, Like if you had to guess what
percentage of the individual contributions. Okay, so these are contributions
coming from people, individuals versus like super pac money and
that kind of stuff, outside interest groups.
Speaker 1: All of that.
Speaker 2: This is just people who live outside of the state.
What percentage of their whole of individual contributions would you
think the Democrat Party in North Carolina raked in from
out of state?
Speaker 1: Would you think ten percent? Would you think.
Speaker 2: Half half of every dollar raised came from an out
of state individual? Or do you think it's higher than half.
If you think it's higher than half, how much higher
do you think it's like sixty seventy five percent? It's
actually eighty percent, it's seventy nine it's almost eighty percent,
So it's it's seventy eight point five, So seventy nine percent.
That is a massive proportion. Seventy eight and a half
percent of the Democrats individual donor funding came from out
of state. Pet, what about the Republicans? Ah, yes, I
hear your what about ism? So the John Locke Foundation
took a look at that also, and the Republican number
is seventy one point eight percent. Oh I'm sorry, Yeah,
that's in state. Oh, right, So the Republicans obtained like
seventy two percent of their individual donations from people inside
the state. Right, So if you're talking about democracy and
who is representing people in the democracy, then it would
seem to me to be that the individual contributions paint
a pretty vivid picture of who is funding which party.
Now that this is not about individual campaigns and special
interest groups and you know that sort of stuff. That's
a separate category. But this is just the individual donor list.
There is a quote from Jim Sterling. We've had him
on the program before. He's a research fellow at the
John Locke Foundation Civitas Center for Public Integrity, and he
is quoted in this piece at the Federalist. This is
not as much of a shocker as you would expect
it to be. He says, Democrats have been moving more
towards an out of state model.
Speaker 1: Did you know that?
Speaker 2: Did you know Democrats were moving towards an out of
state model to fund their elections in this state. But
this is the lowest amount of money that they have
raised in the last six years for in state contributions.
The Federalist writer breckon these. He goes on to say
Democrats' reliance on out of state funding is likely to
have implications for the twenty twenty six midterm elections because
Republicans will have the in state advantage on being able
to stay connected with donors who have an actual stake
in the elections in North Carolina. It also keeps Republicans
quote insulated from national political dynamics that according to Sterling,
who is quoted in the Carolina Journal, So this is
a pretty important part of the problem that the Democrats
are facing. The nationalization of politics where you know, Nancy
Pelosi becomes the face of the state Democrat party. And
in a state like North Carolina where you know, Democrat
votes are not really all that like far left moonbat
brigade cast. You know, you've got a lot of sort
of your country club Republicans. They voted for Stein. These
are like your business people that really don't have any
kind of political hardcore ideology. You know, they are more
interested in being acceptable to their friends on the cocktail
circuit locally speaking, right to be invited to the potlucks
and stuff or in their churches and whatever. It's like,
I've referenced this saying it's been around for a long
time in Charlotte at least, it was always that there
are three political parties in Charlotte, and it's the the Democrats,
the Republicans, and the Chamber of Commerce. And the Chamber
of Commerce is the strongest of the three right, that's
the one you don't cross. I don't know if that's
necessarily true any longer, because I feel like the Chamber
kept feeding the radical left Democrat Party as it grew ascendant.
They kept feeding it in the hopes that it would
get eaten last and I mean to an extent, it worked, right.
The Republicans got eaten. Voters moved doubt those Republican voters
moved Out's why the Mecklenburg County is bluer and the
surrounding counties are now red, and that used to be
the opposite. I started tracking this twenty years ago and
did a bunch of stories when I was a reporter
here at WBT would track it and do stories on
it that you had this migration going on of Republicans
out of Charlotte, Mecklenburg and into the surrounding counties, and
you had people in the surrounding counties moving into Charlotte
with the you know, higher taxes, but all of the
services and such that they so love, and all of
the shiny things. As a former host here at WBT
used to call them all of the you know, the
arenas in the parks and all of the you know,
the pretty shiny things that the Chamber would would get built,
and they would rely on Democrat votes at the polls
for the referenda and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Right if you're you're.
Speaker 2: Putting up bonds for certain projects, relying on people to
turn out the vote. And that's why they played They
played nice with Democrats for a very long time, and
then Republicans eventually, you know, they lose. The demographics shift
in such a way there are not enough Republicans to
get them a majority any longer. Democrats then proceed to
get further and further to the left. And there's no
as I went over yesterday, there's no limiting principles here
for the left. They just keep going. There's never they
can never go too far. That's the thing about leftism,
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story This was yesterday over at the Federalist dot com
doing a big story on how North Carolina Democrats sourced
nearly eighty percent of their individual contributions from outside of
the state. Democrats' need for outside donors could come down
to a trust issue from high level donors who see
state party leadership, like the Democrat party chair Anderson Clayton
has not up to the job. The party has trended
away from in state contributions since twenty twenty two. Despite
Democrat wins in the state this past election. It is
unclear to Democrats in North Carolina whether the party really
helped or if the scandal ridden Republican guberatorial candidate Mark
Robinson was the deciding factor finding money from higher profile
donors outside the individual donor party funding. The organization that
was successful with Roy Cooper and others is known as
the Council of State Committee, all right, the Council of
State Committee, and then there's another one called the Leadership Fund,
which was able to obtain forty two million dollars in contributions,
giving Democrats a financial advantage over Republicans despite the lack
of in state support. Because the Council of State and
the Leadership Fund, they passed on about eighteen million of
the forty two million that those two entities raised, they
passed it along to the state party eighteen million dollars
to the state party. The Council of State Committee is
run by high level staffers who ran Governor Roy Cooper's campaign, right,
That's where the fundraising power is and we know this
has been the case since HB two, right since the
bathroom bill and the whole fight over that.
Speaker 1: We you know, had the All.
Speaker 2: Star the NBA All Star Game canceled, and you know
Roy was dialing up the sales Force CEO and getting
all of his corporate cronies to start boycotting the state
of North Carolina. And then Roy threatened all of the
Democrat lawmakers in the legislature saying, don't you dare work
on some kind of a quote fix for HB two
before the election. If you do, there will be no
role for you in my administration when I win. Right,
He threatened all of his fellow Democrats to not fix
the problem because he needed it as a campaign issue
against Pat McCrory. And then, of course he wins, and
with all of that money, he wins, and then of
course does a quote fix which he had blocked from
happening before the election. Wall Street Journal reported that at
the time, Right, so, he literally tried to harm his
own constituency by his own words. Right, he said, HB
two is terrible for North Carolinians, but he worked to
keep it in place for longer because it helped him personally,
and he was able then to make all the connections
with the outside donors, and that infrastructure remains.
Speaker 1: That's what he's gonna parlay.
Speaker 2: That's how he got the Harvard gig, and that's what
he's going to use to parlay into his run for Usene.
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Federalist with this report on a study that was done
by the Carolina or sorry, the John Locke Foundation Jim Sterling,
and finds that like eighty percent of all of the
individual contributions to the North Carolina Democrat Party last cycle
were from out of state. Okay, so one in five
dollars came from in state North Carolinians to the state party.
The fundraising or nots in the Democrat Party this last
cycle were connected to the individuals of Roy Cooper and
Josh Stein who raised tons of money from out of
state donors, and so there is you know that that's
part of the story.
Speaker 1: The other part of.
Speaker 2: The story is the internal politics inside the Democrat Party.
You know, why would Cooper and Stein not trust the
state party to raise all of this money on its own. Now,
part of it could be that they've got a twenty
five year old running the party, Anderson Clayton, right, who
unseated Bobby Richardson in the last election for the Democrat
Party chair. Bobby Richardson was a longtime lawmaker.
Speaker 1: I want to say.
Speaker 2: She was, you know, in her sixties or seventies, and
black female, and had thesements of all of these elected
officials like Cooper and whatnot. And Clayton with her band
of activists inside the party overthrew Richardson. So there may
be some lack of trust there. Also, although the media
treats it like it's some sort of badge of honor
or qualification, the fact that Anderson Clayton has minimal experience
and is very young. Oh yes, yes, she was a
field organizer for Elizabeth Warren's presidential campaign, so lots of
success over there. They did not trust her to be
able to raise the amount of money because she just
doesn't know what she's doing at this point. And that's understandable, right,
She's only twenty at the time, she was like twenty
three or something. And again, while all of the media
and by the way, media had no problem with somebody
that young taking the reins of a state party in
a crucial swing state for Democrats. They celebrated this as
how cool is this? And she says, y'all and she
cusses some and that's how we're gonna win some rural voters.
Speaker 1: That was That's her whole pitch, that was the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and she also screams into microphones, which is
a that's a key requirement for all Democrat leaders as
I understand it nowadays. And so the coverage she got
compare that to the coverage that the doge dudes get. Right,
these are like tech wiz kids, super smart, but they're,
you know, the same age she was when she ran,
except they're trying to find waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 1: And so they're only twenty two years old. You don't
know anything. But she can run a party. I mean,
not well, but she can run a party. Oh my gosh.
The children shall lead us.
Speaker 2: And don't even get me started on the comparison with
Greta Thunberg, who I think has now morphed from yeah,
she's she is morphed from what climate stuff to now
she's like pro Palestine. She's just kind of just kind
of morphed into like team baby beheading rapist advocate, I guess,
or something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, so yeah, she was like she was like,
I don't know, four or five months old, and they
were like, oh, she shall lead us, you know, but actually,
let me do this now because it ties in Anderson Clayton,
the Democrat party chair, which I think this is a
pretty good indication of the problems that the party is having,
how tone deaf they are, how out of touch they
are with their messaging.
Speaker 1: She just tweeted.
Speaker 2: Out, Uh, let me see the timestamp on this, Yeah,
one twenty sorry, okay, this is from yesterday.
Speaker 1: I just saw it one twenty four yesterday. Quote.
Speaker 2: It's ironic folks who are begging Sorry, I was going
to read it in her. That's fine, it's ironic folks
who are begging for USAID to be defunded. Will also
be the people in church pews on Sunday giving offering
funds so someone can go on a mission trip overseas.
I thought Christians would never be the group to say
helping people everywhere isn't a godly priority. Look, kid, this
is not the way to reach rural voters.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I know you're from rural North Carolina, so you know
these things and you know how to talk to them,
which is why it all went red.
Speaker 1: But no, I understand that's what you think. But this
is part of your problem.
Speaker 2: Okay. There is a big difference between me going into
a church voluntarily donating money to help somebody go on
a mission to help others while spreading the word of
Jesus Christ, spreading the gospel. That there's a difference between
that and you confiscating money out of my paycheck at
risk of you know, loss of liberty for me if
I don't want to pay it through taxes. Right, you
confiscating the money from me, handing it off to some
other entity to go chop off people's genitals in Guatemala. Right,
Me objecting to that doesn't make me less Christian because
I'm funding a mission to Guatemala to spread the gospel
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the twenty percent of donations that the Democrat Party got
from individuals who made up that that base, Right, that's
a good question to look at as well. And luckily
the John Locke Foundation did that as well. And so
if you look at just the in state individual donations, remember,
like eighty percent of the donations came from out of
state individual out of state, okay, But for the individuals
in state, who were the big donors here Josh Stein's
parents apparently, Yeah, Josh Stein's parents gave the Democrat Party
five hundred and seventy thousand dollars. Josh Stein comes from money, apparently,
and he gave and they gave more than half a
million dollars to the state Democrat Party. Also, the billionaire
Saul family salll Sal Saul Sale, whatever, they gave four
and a half million dollars. That made up just those
two made up about half of all of the in
state donations that Democrats got from individuals. According to the
Carolina Journal, Stein himself transferred thirteen million dollars in funding
to the state party from the Leadership Fund. I guess
that's the one connected to him that allowed the Democrats
to outpace Republicans because Republicans had raised twenty nine million dollars,
virtually all of it from individual in state donations. And
then there's one other footnote here in the story over
at the Federalist dot com, and it is about the
race for the state Supreme Court seat, which is still
not certified. It's still in the courts, okay, working through
different appeals and state and federal levels and everything else.
Jefferson Griffin, Republican who's on the Court of Appeals, ran
against Alison Riggs, who has gotten into her seats because
Roy Cooper kept appointing her. She was a radical activist,
leftist lawyer, and so she was rewarded with the judge ship,
and so this was her attempt to defend her Supreme
Court seat. The court right now is five to two
Republican majority, and Riggs is one of those two seats.
So even if Riggs ends up winning this seat, it's
no change, okay, in the five to two breakup, it
could go six' one If griffin ends up winning these.
Appeals basically on counting the votes from voters that maybe
kind of sort of shouldn't have been, Voting they are
a whole bunch of. Them he's down by like seven
hundred and thirty four, votes and he was up by
ten thousand on election. Night but then when you, know
they when they finish all the, counting and they counted
a whole bunch of, votes hundreds of them from people
who live overseas and have never lived In North carolina
yet are registered to vote. Here and that's. ODD i
feel like that's. Odd that's a little. Odd and maybe
there's a reasonable explanation for. IT i don't, know but that's.
Speaker 1: It that's.
Speaker 2: Odd you also have a bunch of, people thousands of,
them who don't have like identifiable Like Social security numbers
attached to their voter profiles and, stuff or they didn't
send in a photo with their, ballot you, know PHOTO
id now being a requirement. Anyway democrats poured into her
race more than five million, dollars Which Jim sterling at
The Carolina or at The John Locke, foundation quoted In
The Carolina, journal said that this is nearly unheard of
this amount of money for a judicial. Race griffin raised two,
million so she so she raised and spent more than
two times as much as he did in order to
get a seven hundred and thirty for vote. Lead speaking
of that, Race Jefferson griffin filed notices of appeal in
all three lawsuits connected to his challenges of more than
sixty five thousand ballots cast in his election Against Alison.
Riggs those appeals to The North Carolina court Of appeals
arrived three days after A Wake County Superior court judge
Named William pittman rejected three different categories of ballot Challenges
griffin is. Pursuing pittman issued his rulings On friday, afternoon
just hours after holding a.
Speaker 1: Hearing one.
Speaker 2: Page orders in each case upheld The State board Of
elections decision they made back In december that rejected three
different groups of ballot. Protests, Okay AND i know The
democrats are all about you, know constitutional crisis and the you.
Speaker 1: Know De bibi say they're.
Speaker 2: Whatever they're making all these arguments that this is so
beyond the. Pale but AS i, said with the lawsuits
Over trump's executive, orders and you, know going through the
courts like this is where it's supposed to be. Done,
Right Jefferson griffin is following the. Law he is going
by the rule book that he is supposed to go.
By when he has objections and has identified deficiencies in his,
mind and it will be up to courts to decide
whether those have merit and if they, do what remedy
do they?
Speaker 1: Do they?
Speaker 2: Enact this is the normal, process But democrats Want griffin
to just stop, fighting and he doesn't seem like he
intends to do.
Speaker 1: So all, right that'll do it for this. Episode thank
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