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Speaker 2: The Bill Handle Show Podcast. Okay, Now, oh, what a
Speaker 2: ridiculous story we have that I've never done before. Homelessness,
Speaker 2: because that's not a huge issue here, well across the country,
Speaker 2: but particularly here in California, particularly here in southern California,
Speaker 2: particularly here in La County.
Speaker 3: Well, ever since the Supreme Court ruled.
Speaker 2: In Grant's pass versus Johnson that homeless encampments can be
Speaker 2: cleared out even if there are no beds available for
Speaker 2: the homeless. There is a question that the homeless are asking,
Speaker 2: and it is a legitimate question, and that is.
Speaker 3: Where do we go? Where do you put us? Where
Speaker 3: do we camp?
Speaker 2: I mean we can't afford housing. I mean all we
Speaker 2: can afford our tents. And if you clear us out
Speaker 2: of that, then we go there, and you clear us
Speaker 2: out of there, then we go over there.
Speaker 3: And then what happens when you clear us out of
Speaker 3: over there?
Speaker 2: And so you would think one of the champions of
Speaker 2: the homeless those encampments would be a Gavin Newsom because
Speaker 2: he is a liberal.
Speaker 3: He's come down hard against the homeless.
Speaker 2: I mean he has taken state agencies, Caltran's Department of
Speaker 2: Wildlife and said anything on state land, you're gone.
Speaker 3: We're clearing you out. And he said it used to be.
Speaker 2: The cities would say, but the courts won't let us
Speaker 2: because there are no shelter beds available, and we're trying
Speaker 2: as hard as we can to build shelter beds.
Speaker 3: He says, that's done. No more excuses.
Speaker 2: You start cleaning out those encampments or now here's the ore.
Speaker 2: What kind of power does Gaven Newsom have over La County. Well,
Speaker 2: not really, except he says, if you don't do that,
Speaker 2: if you don't clean out the encampments, you're not gonna
Speaker 2: get state money. I'm not going to give you the
Speaker 2: money that I'm giving you now to help you with
Speaker 2: a homeless There's a billion dollars just in this year's
Speaker 2: budget in California that goes to the cities and counties
Speaker 2: to deal with homeless and he made it very specific.
Speaker 2: If you don't do what I want you to do,
Speaker 2: if I don't see real action, if I don't see
Speaker 2: real determination to clear up this problem, you ain't getting
Speaker 2: any money.
Speaker 3: No money for you and figure it out on your own.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 2: And I've said this homeless issue as long as people
Speaker 2: can't afford to live in southern California, and it ain't
Speaker 2: getting any easier. It's basically southern California in the Bay Area,
Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about, which it's much stronger here
Speaker 2: in southern California.
Speaker 3: The problem and you see mayors.
Speaker 2: I understand Stockton, I understand fres Tho, super conservative cities
Speaker 2: that they've come down really hard.
Speaker 3: But how about San Francisco that has come down hard.
Speaker 2: Now La County, you've got the mayor of La City
Speaker 2: said we're not going to enforce.
Speaker 3: La County. We're never going to enforce, which is.
Speaker 2: Maybe one of the reasons La County is sixty thousand homeless.
Speaker 2: I mean that is beyond that's just beyond comprehension.
Speaker 3: There's so many homeless.
Speaker 2: So now even in those places La County, the city,
Speaker 2: the homeless, advocates, the workers are saying those encampments are
Speaker 2: being cleared out pretty quickly. The police are much more aggressive,
Speaker 2: and they don't have to worry about shelter beds being
Speaker 2: available because grants Pass versus Johnson US Supreme Court said
Speaker 2: that's off the table.
Speaker 3: Just clean them out.
Speaker 2: By the way, the question is, and those that are
Speaker 2: on the street in the encampments, where do they go?
Speaker 2: I've told you on the way home coming from the station,
Speaker 2: I got off on a freeway off ramp and then
Speaker 2: made a left underneath the over where the freeway went,
Speaker 2: and under that overpass was from one end to the
Speaker 2: other was this homeless encampment.
Speaker 3: Tense. Just every inch of the covered overpass gone.
Speaker 2: One day I come back, I come home and nothing
Speaker 2: is there, just a bunch of trash, mounts of trash.
Speaker 3: And the next day the trash is gone. So it
Speaker 3: took them two days, one.
Speaker 2: Get rid of the temps the people, and the other
Speaker 2: one the trash goes out. There must have been eighty
Speaker 2: one hundred people living there. Where did they go? Now,
Speaker 2: I'm hoping they went to your neighborhood, because that works
Speaker 2: for me. Does it work for you? And what is
Speaker 2: the answer? And I've said this many many times, and
Speaker 2: I think is absolutely true. Next year it'll be a
Speaker 2: little better. The year after that, it'll be a little better.
Speaker 2: The year after that, it'll be a little better. In
Speaker 2: the analogy, assuming that the homeless population doesn't keep on rising,
Speaker 2: which it has been.
Speaker 3: And the analogy I make.
Speaker 2: Remember, I used to be in the construction business, working
Speaker 2: my way through law school.
Speaker 3: I had a construction.
Speaker 2: Business, which I failed miserably at is when they passed
Speaker 2: the law regarding wooden shakes, the wooden roofs, and the
Speaker 2: law was passed saying no more wooden shakes. They have
Speaker 2: to be asphalt, they have to be concrete, they have
Speaker 2: to be tile. You cannot use wood anymore to make roofs.
Speaker 2: You know, the woodshakes, And I said, oh, so what
Speaker 2: everybody has a wood shake took thirty years, because that's
Speaker 2: the life span of a roof. They don't make that.
Speaker 2: You won't see one in the city of la anymore.
Speaker 2: The roofs are all gone. Anytime they had to be replaced,
Speaker 2: they replaced it with a fireproof roof and it's completely changed.
Speaker 3: Took a generation.
Speaker 2: And I think the same thing is going to happen
Speaker 2: here dealing with the homeless. We're going to add a
Speaker 2: shelter bed a couple hundred next year, and maybe four
Speaker 2: hundred a year after that, and before you know it,
Speaker 2: you turn around and fifty years later you have enough
Speaker 2: shelter beds, assuming that the homeless.
Speaker 3: Population doesn't increase like crazy.
Speaker 2: And as of right now, the homeless population has outpaced
Speaker 2: the money and the beds that are being put up.
Speaker 2: I've said this many times. I think it's absolutely true.
Speaker 2: America is truly the great Land of opportunity. It is
Speaker 2: an amazing country. It's just a rough place to be
Speaker 2: poor in. This is not a good place to be
Speaker 2: poor in America, particularly here in southern California. A story
Speaker 2: about electricity and electrical rates, and this is not a
Speaker 2: story about solar, although by these days, I don't know
Speaker 2: who is not.
Speaker 3: Putting solar in because it's crazy.
Speaker 2: You know, I moved to the most expensive utility in
Speaker 2: the United States.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can't wait. Well, I'm gonna throw a couple figures
Speaker 3: out at you that you're going to to go. Come on, really,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 2: We go up near the salt and Sea. There are
Speaker 2: plans to build a data center to support AI. It's
Speaker 2: going to cover fifteen football fields and it's going to
Speaker 2: require power that would support four hundred and twenty five
Speaker 2: thousand homes. Santa Clara, right in the heart of Silicon Valley.
Speaker 2: Electric rates are rising like crazy. Why because the utility
Speaker 2: is spending on transmission lines infrastructure to accommodate the demand,
Speaker 2: the power demand from fifty data centers, which now consume
Speaker 2: sixty percent of the city's electricity. The entire city of
Speaker 2: Santa Clara, sixty percent of the electricity is used by
Speaker 2: the data centers, not the people, not the industry, none
Speaker 2: of it, all right, So why is that? Well, because
Speaker 2: the power needed toize the internet those servers, and they
Speaker 2: keep on adding because the Internet is getting bigger and
Speaker 2: bigger by the second, so need more data centers by
Speaker 2: the second. Well, they consume unbelievable amounts of electricity PG
Speaker 2: and E told its investors that we're gonna have we're
Speaker 2: gonna need two dozen more data centers, which is going
Speaker 2: to require three point five gigawatts.
Speaker 3: What does that mean? How about this one?
Speaker 2: The output of three new nuclear reactors and nuke's power
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 3: Of homes and this is going to be the equivalent.
Speaker 2: Of three of them that have to be built. That
Speaker 2: is scary stuff. And I'll tell you something else. Okay,
Speaker 2: this one is as I looked at this figure, I
Speaker 2: went really just to give you an idea of what's
Speaker 2: going on with the power that's necessary and how that's
Speaker 2: going to change everything is as follows.
Speaker 3: You've got chat GPT powered search.
Speaker 2: Now, when you do a normal AI or when you
Speaker 2: do a not AI. When you do in normal search,
Speaker 2: for example on Google without AI, you use a ton
Speaker 2: of a ton of power. I mean, there's no question
Speaker 2: that search causes the data center to create and use.
Speaker 3: Power to give you the information.
Speaker 2: An AI search, for example, a chat GPT powered search
Speaker 2: that uses ten times more power.
Speaker 3: Because it sweeps the Internet.
Speaker 2: And it comes up with the algorithm that produces the
Speaker 2: answer and figures out. As you know, we've talked about AI,
Speaker 2: but it's there's a lot of complicated technology and it
Speaker 2: sucks up power.
Speaker 3: Are one of the experts.
Speaker 2: There's an associate professor of Let's Computing Engineering at U
Speaker 2: SEE Riverside, Shalai Wren. He calculated the global use of
Speaker 2: AI is going to require as much fresh water because
Speaker 2: that cools reactors and that cools electrical systems. In twenty
Speaker 2: twenty seven, now used by four to six countries the
Speaker 2: size of Denmark. I mean we are talking a scale
Speaker 2: that is astronomical. Silicon Valley is the world's epicenter of AI.
Speaker 3: Some of the biggest developers are headquartered.
Speaker 2: They are Alphabet, Apple, Meta, open Ai, the people created
Speaker 2: chat GPTs in San Francisco, Navidia, the maker of the
Speaker 2: chips needed for AI that operates from Santa Clara, and
Speaker 2: the big tech companies and they of course are throwing
Speaker 2: money into AI.
Speaker 3: All the talk.
Speaker 2: About micros, Amazon, I mean all of them are spending
Speaker 2: billions to build new data centers around the world, and
Speaker 2: it sucks up energy to the point where Diabolo Canyon,
Speaker 2: the nuclear the last nuclear plant in California, they had
Speaker 2: to extend its life more so than it was originally
Speaker 2: called for. The fossil fuel plants that are supposed to
Speaker 2: be replaced, No, they're not going to be replaced anytime soon,
Speaker 2: because they need them. We desperately need them. And so
Speaker 2: one of the real costs well, is just using the Internet.
Speaker 2: And we have to look at not just the security
Speaker 2: issues of the Internet and cybercrime, but simply the amount
Speaker 2: of energy it's going to cost us. Goldman Sachs, one
Speaker 2: of the big financial institutions, has analysts up the Yinnan.
Speaker 3: They estimate that by twenty thirty six years from now.
Speaker 2: The demand for AI and the Internet and the data
Speaker 2: centers could be as much as eleven percent of the
Speaker 2: entire US power demand, just the data centers. It's now
Speaker 2: three percent, by the way, it's still huge. So the
Speaker 2: biggest concentration basically in the world of these data centers
Speaker 2: happens to be in Santa Clara.
Speaker 3: Why well, let's start with.
Speaker 2: Electric rates or forty percent lower than those charged by PGE.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you what these This is where
Speaker 2: money really counts when you can go into utility with
Speaker 2: your lobbyists and truly promote your position. The more electricity
Speaker 2: we use as consumers, the more it costs, because we
Speaker 2: have that tear systm them and first chier. You have
Speaker 2: a certain amount of money you pay, you go into
Speaker 2: second tier, it gets more expensive, the third tier.
Speaker 3: It gets really expensive.
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons why people buy solar
Speaker 2: all the time. And we used to be told to
Speaker 2: use your all your appliances at night. Now is to
Speaker 2: the day because we're using all the soul, we're getting
Speaker 2: all the solar energy. Okay, So the premise is the
Speaker 2: more electricity we use as consumers, the more it costs.
Speaker 2: With these data centers, electricity that they use is based
Speaker 2: on volume. That's what they pay volume of electricity use.
Speaker 2: The more they use, the cheaper it is. So they
Speaker 2: have all the incentive in the world to build and
Speaker 2: build and build, because what is one of the most expensive,
Speaker 2: if not the most expensive part of running those data
Speaker 2: centers electricity, what it costs to actually run those centers.
Speaker 2: I mean, once you've invested, that's a capital investment. Okay,
Speaker 2: you're sort of done. You put the building up you've
Speaker 2: built the computer systems. I mean they have to be
Speaker 2: replaced every few years. But the electric bill comes due
Speaker 2: every month, so let's use a ton of it. So
Speaker 2: just keep on using AI, which we're all going to do,
Speaker 2: and be prepared to pay for it with your electric bills,
Speaker 2: because who ends up paying for it?
Speaker 3: We do, of course, we do, consumers.
Speaker 2: Okay, enough of that, now, let's move over to the
Speaker 2: decline of America's public schools.
Speaker 3: You remember as a kid you maybe still do your children. No,
Speaker 3: they don't go to public pools. I got one word
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 2: And this is based out of a study that was
Speaker 2: just done, an analysis of public pools all over the.
Speaker 3: Country, and it is entitled cooties. That's it.
Speaker 2: Cooties Why because they're public pools, that's why. And frankly,
Speaker 2: we're not into sharing our pools.
Speaker 3: We used to didn't care. Now it's a different story.
Speaker 2: Now people are actually upset that people pee in public
Speaker 2: schools pools.
Speaker 3: By the way, how could you.
Speaker 2: Go swimming in a public pool and not pee. I've
Speaker 2: never understood that. I mean, that's what they're for, isn't it.
Speaker 2: And I used to go like crazy my kids, Uh uh,
Speaker 2: no way and why are there fewer public pools out there. Well,
Speaker 2: one of them is exactly that the other one is
Speaker 2: well because also we are just not as close. We
Speaker 2: don't Americans are not really good about living, you know,
Speaker 2: bumper to bumper.
Speaker 3: We just don't like it. No, we like our.
Speaker 2: Buildings right, like our houses apart. We just we have
Speaker 2: personal space. That's very different. I mean, the Japanese are
Speaker 2: on top of each other and that's their culture. Americans
Speaker 2: are not far less than anyone else.
Speaker 3: And the problem is.
Speaker 2: Temperatures are soaring like crazy, and public schools. Not only
Speaker 2: are public pools are not only not being built, they're
Speaker 2: not being maintained. Because this is let's kick the can
Speaker 2: down the road. When someone is elected to office, they
Speaker 2: rarely run on. We have to maintain our infrastructure, and
Speaker 2: that sort of doesn't do it. So maintenance is simply
Speaker 2: not done, which is why our roads are falling apart.
Speaker 2: Which is why our water systems LA for example, it
Speaker 2: was built over one hundred years ago. The lifespan of
Speaker 2: that water system is one hundred years or past the lifespan,
Speaker 2: which is why we get these cracks and we have
Speaker 2: these water leaks and water spouts and geysers of water
Speaker 2: all the time, and the public pools are the same thing.
Speaker 3: Now, is there a future for public pools. Probably, And
Speaker 3: here's why.
Speaker 2: Because politicians are city councils, particularly because public school pools
Speaker 2: are part of the city or a part of the
Speaker 2: city infrastructure, they are now being looked at not as recreational,
Speaker 2: which of course they are, but as part of dealing
Speaker 2: with climate change and are necessary for people. It's almost
Speaker 2: like cooling centers where they become necessary because temperatures have
Speaker 2: gone up and up, and people, particularly in the inner city,
Speaker 2: don't have any place to go, and so public schools
Speaker 2: or public pools simply seems to be the answer. But
Speaker 2: here we go back to racism because when the public
Speaker 2: pools really became public, and we're talking in the twenties
Speaker 2: and thirties, as part of the depression, and FDR established
Speaker 2: established the program during the depression of building the public
Speaker 2: Works Administration, etc.
Speaker 3: Public pools, city pools were built. That was part of it.
Speaker 3: And then you had the de segregation cases. And by
Speaker 3: the way, it was all racism in those days cities.
Speaker 2: You know, black people didn't mix with white people, or
Speaker 2: more the other way, white people.
Speaker 3: Didn't mix with black people. So what ended up happening.
Speaker 2: By the time the fifties and sixties came around, private
Speaker 2: swim clubs came around.
Speaker 3: They weren't building public pools anymore.
Speaker 2: Private swim clubs went from well, nineteen fifty two there
Speaker 2: were twelve hundred of them around the country. Twelve years
Speaker 2: later there were twenty three thousand of them. Racism seems
Speaker 2: to rear its ugly head, and did so particularly in
Speaker 2: public pools.
Speaker 3: And I remember as a kid and I sweat.
Speaker 2: Burbank had a great I don't know if it's still there,
Speaker 2: the Burbank pool, the public pool, it was phenomenal. I
Speaker 2: used to go there all the time, drive there from
Speaker 2: North Hollywood.
Speaker 3: It was just a great pool.
Speaker 2: If I remember the there weren't too many African Americans,
Speaker 2: but the valley didn't have too many African Americans at
Speaker 2: that time, and I was fine swim around. Got all
Speaker 2: those diseases, the kooties, you could see the amiba's floating
Speaker 2: floating on the water, just all kinds of disgusting diseases,
Speaker 2: open sorees. People had shankers, superating puss filled shankers that
Speaker 2: you would swim in.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, you brought some of your own.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know what built when I was growing.
Speaker 1: Up because we were broke, We didn't have any money,
Speaker 1: and my mom didn't put in a dough boy pool
Speaker 1: until I was, you know, ared eighteen or whatever. Probably
Speaker 1: we went to the local high schools. The high schools
Speaker 1: would open during the summer and that was the public pool.
Speaker 1: We didn't have a designated public pool. It was the
Speaker 1: high schools that would open up to the public. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had to pay or whatever,
Speaker 1: but you could.
Speaker 3: Come in and use those.
Speaker 1: And those have to be maintained because they use them
Speaker 1: for water polo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, you know.
Speaker 2: And can you find out if the public school in
Speaker 2: Burbank is a public pool.
Speaker 3: I keep on saying public school.
Speaker 2: The public pool in Burbank is still there, because I
Speaker 2: remember it was one of the best pools out there.
Speaker 2: I also used to go to Norwalk because they had
Speaker 2: a public pool that was phenomenal with the diving platform
Speaker 2: because I used to jump into the water and I
Speaker 2: would always try a cannonball in the water and I
Speaker 2: was a pretty heavy set kid, and that was another
Speaker 2: one you know that I enjoyed doing. All right, now,
Speaker 2: how often? And I'm told about that, and I asked
Speaker 2: this question. I'm asked this question all the time I
Speaker 2: handle on the law bill. My information has been hacked?
Speaker 2: What can I do about it? All right? And then
Speaker 2: we have news about what AT and T comes out
Speaker 2: with thirty million people have been hacked. And then you
Speaker 2: have other organizations who else other companies have been hacked?
Speaker 3: If I can.
Speaker 2: Remember Sony was hacked. I mean major corporations have been hacked.
Speaker 2: And if you're a customer, okay, then maybe you sweat.
Speaker 3: Maybe not.
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you a hack which occurred about
Speaker 2: four months ago. And all they did was get two
Speaker 2: point nine billion records, which is every one of us.
Speaker 2: There is not a person on well, certainly in America,
Speaker 2: if you use the internet. If you live under a
Speaker 2: rock and you don't have access to computer and you're
Speaker 2: not using the internet.
Speaker 3: That's fine. By the way, you can't cell phone either.
Speaker 2: The way you make phone calls is with two cans
Speaker 2: and a string between them, and you can make phone
Speaker 2: calls and not get hacked or not have the NSA
Speaker 2: listen in to every cell conversation that you have. I
Speaker 2: just got what a scam. I got yesterday a text
Speaker 2: what are you wearing sailor? I go, okay, and I
Speaker 2: immediately jumped into that one. Let me tell you what
Speaker 2: I was offered. I go, how did you get my number? Well,
Speaker 2: we got your number.
Speaker 3: And so two point nine billion people have man hacked.
Speaker 3: This is the group us DoD.
Speaker 2: And this is a little tough because National Public Data
Speaker 2: an organization which offers personal information to employers and private
Speaker 2: investigators and staffing agencies and people doing background checks, everybody.
Speaker 3: The group USDOD.
Speaker 2: Offered in a forum, in a forum open forum to
Speaker 2: hackers to sell this data includes records from the US, Canada,
Speaker 2: Britain and you know what, they sold it for three
Speaker 2: point five million dollars.
Speaker 3: The information on.
Speaker 2: Two point nine billion people. And what information did they get?
Speaker 2: Your full name, your address, your date of birth, you're
Speaker 2: social Security number, your phone number, alternative names, and birth dates,
Speaker 2: basically everything to know everything about you. You do a
Speaker 2: search on my name, you are going to get my
Speaker 2: full name, Bill Handle or William wolf Handle aka Bill Handle,
Speaker 2: not only my address where I don't live, because that
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good at covering it up because my home
Speaker 2: is in a trust which is owned by a trust
Speaker 2: which is owned by a company in the Cayman Islands,
Speaker 2: and so that one I'm pretty good on. But you'll
Speaker 2: know the addresses where I used to live, You'll know
Speaker 2: where I used to work, You'll know my social Does
Speaker 2: that mean that you can apply for credit? Here's one
Speaker 2: of the ways, sob it I freeze my credit. Whenever
Speaker 2: I applied for credit, I have to call the credit
Speaker 2: agencies and unfrees the credit and then it goes right
Speaker 2: back on. That's one way to help. The other way
Speaker 2: is two party authentication. That is every time you do business.
Speaker 2: I do that with my banking. My bank every time
Speaker 2: I do anything, sends me a text saying here is
Speaker 2: your code number, and I have to put that in.
Speaker 2: That helps. So there are a.
Speaker 3: Few ways of doing this. But if someone really wants
Speaker 3: to get at you, they get at you. They get
Speaker 3: at you. So the good news, well there is no
Speaker 3: good news.
Speaker 2: Just want to make your life a little bit better, okay,
Speaker 2: Neil amy Cono. And your life is open to everybody
Speaker 2: on this planet. And it's pretty scary stuff.
Speaker 3: By the way, if you do get.
Speaker 2: My home address perchance, and you show up up, my
Speaker 2: dogs are going to eat you. And you're gonna have
Speaker 2: a tough time getting through the electrified fence that's gonna
Speaker 2: zap you and cook you as you come in. And
Speaker 2: let's not forget the spring loaded shotguns on my front door.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty careful, Okay, Are we done?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I think so. All right, good news for all.
Speaker 2: Yep kf I am.
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