Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What What's going to happen?
Speaker 3: What I going up to help?
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, we got a
Speaker 2: bunch of us here and we are waiting on Lisa
Speaker 2: to join us, and yeah, she'll be here eventually, and
Speaker 2: we are talking about count of Saint Jermaine. We were
Speaker 2: supposed to have a different guest tonight, which we will
Speaker 2: be rescheduling, and Jules came up with the idea of
Speaker 2: talking about Saint Jermaine. I didn't really know much about
Speaker 2: him headless does Lisa knew a little bit, And fortunately
Speaker 2: I found out that too long ago that Ricardo seems
Speaker 2: to know a decent amount of him and has some
Speaker 2: of the stuff to share as well. Uh So in
Speaker 2: this episode, hopefully, you know, things will go smooth. I
Speaker 2: have a little bit of like a background on the
Speaker 2: guy and we could lightly go over that and everybody
Speaker 2: else can fill in as we're going, and then Ricardo
Speaker 2: can also take it over with some of the stuff
Speaker 2: that he has. Hopefully I don't drag it out for
Speaker 2: too long, but before we get into it, I was
Speaker 2: gonna have because he probably knows him a little bit
Speaker 2: better than me. It's gonna have Ricardo just do like
Speaker 2: a little bit of an introduction of who Saint Germaine was.
Speaker 2: If you don't mind, sir, no right away, Oh, I've
Speaker 2: got to introduce it.
Speaker 1: You're good, okay. So there are a few names in
Speaker 1: recent history that could easily generate several hours of entertailing,
Speaker 1: entertaining salt and there and then a fine day among friends.
Speaker 1: I was discussing this this fellow, and it's just unbelievable,
Speaker 1: so I'll begin this. There are persons of interest such
Speaker 1: as Signior Igualdi, which would all give a wonderful show
Speaker 1: because it's very similar to Sanchoma. That some belief that
Speaker 1: he also the Main that what the name was Alessandro
Speaker 1: di Cagliostro that people know as Casanova, which also was
Speaker 1: an agent of the same rank of Saint Chairmain, although
Speaker 1: he was too interested in women to follow all the
Speaker 1: all the proceedings and all the teachings. In fact, when
Speaker 1: the Pope offered him to access the secret library at
Speaker 1: the Vatican, he very respectfully refused because he didn't have
Speaker 1: time to go there and check the books. So that's
Speaker 1: why you never get to the level of Saint Germain.
Speaker 1: Another another person on this scale is President John That
Speaker 1: also people already mentioned here in the group. So let
Speaker 1: me see if I can give you a small introduction,
Speaker 1: so I don't take too long, so give me a second.
Speaker 1: So during my research I found out that not all
Speaker 1: the candidates, like center Manx succeeded in the training and
Speaker 1: education Sevalier design Galt. The mention that I previously mentioned
Speaker 1: Giaco Madiro or Kazanova that we know as Kazanova is
Speaker 1: another one. And I'm repeating myself because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: read from my paper. I apologize. So there are no
Speaker 1: records of the birth year of Sant Germain. So while
Speaker 1: no consensus regarding his nationality or his parents was ever obtained,
Speaker 1: some claim that he was Hungarian, others Portuguese, and in
Speaker 1: this case either the son of a powerful Jew or
Speaker 1: a bastard son to the Portuguese king Bustard, yes, but
Speaker 1: intentional and whose upbringing education would make him more powerful
Speaker 1: than any king. Portugal is a country that was created
Speaker 1: by the Templars and by all the sext so it
Speaker 1: would be logical, but apparently not. Some say that his
Speaker 1: origin was as he told in reported confession to his
Speaker 1: protector enthusiastic admirer, Prince Charles of hes Cassel or Nick
Speaker 1: is going to mention. According to him, Saint Chairman told
Speaker 1: him to be the son of Prince zach Rakassi of Transylvania,
Speaker 1: and that his first wife was called tekelly a herhigh
Speaker 1: rank Hungarian family, of top military grade and of Ottoman origin. So,
Speaker 1: just to finish Unick, many researchers believe him to be
Speaker 1: the offspring of Francis, the second ruler of the once
Speaker 1: powerful Principality of Transfyvlania France. Is the second of Transylvania
Speaker 1: had married a sixteen year old Charlotte Amalie of Hens
Speaker 1: one fright on September twenty five, nineteen sixty four, at
Speaker 1: the Cathedral of Cologne in Germany. So out of this
Speaker 1: union came two known children. However, when the will of
Speaker 1: Francis the second was published in seventeen thirty seven, a
Speaker 1: third unnamed son was mentioned as beneficiary, and this is
Speaker 1: the one that might be Saint Germain. So this charch
Speaker 1: child proved to be Leopold George, the eldest son and
Speaker 1: heir to the Transylvania throne. Leopol George was born either
Speaker 1: in sixteen ninety one or sixteen ninety six, and depending
Speaker 1: which theory or buzz one accepts, and because of the
Speaker 1: uncertainty of his first break, it's not known if he
Speaker 1: was the son of charlottev Hess or of Francis previous wife.
Speaker 1: What does appear to be certain is that loopool George's
Speaker 1: early death in the year seventeen hundred had been staged
Speaker 1: to save him from the deadly intrigues in which we're
Speaker 1: about to destroy the Transylvania dynasty and the independence of
Speaker 1: that country. So loopool George is believed by many to
Speaker 1: be the Count on Saint Germain. I think that from
Speaker 1: this point on, I don't want to ruin what you
Speaker 1: have to present, because from this point on is when
Speaker 1: he's going to be taken by some sort of fraternity
Speaker 1: and initiated into this process of beginning to becoming an agent.
Speaker 4: I did want to ask one question also, the first
Speaker 4: kind of record of where he comes from is a
Speaker 4: Transylvanian blood line. Yes, very interesting, considering we know someone else.
Speaker 1: Who comes from a Transylvanian blood line.
Speaker 4: Sure the tailor which is Germanic as well, you know,
Speaker 4: which ended up going into Germany, there's sure Germanic tribes
Speaker 4: and the royal family.
Speaker 1: Eventually of the researchers agrees that he is the third
Speaker 1: illegitimate son of Leopool, the second and the eldest, because
Speaker 1: if from a previous marriage and not the royal marriage.
Speaker 1: But when they tried to destroy the kingdom by omitting
Speaker 1: his name, he saved his life and delivered him to
Speaker 1: one of these societies that then raised him to be
Speaker 1: what it becomes. Wow, so is he like nothing to lose?
Speaker 1: There's nothing to lose.
Speaker 5: Nothing to lose.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know what, real quick? And I totally screw
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Speaker 2: because I suck out of I didn't let everybody introduce
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Speaker 1: That's why it took so long to start and was
Speaker 1: used at the beginning.
Speaker 2: Oh that I was like, you know what, maybe by
Speaker 2: the time don Les will show up. But she still
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Speaker 2: get into it. I don't I'm gonna be totally honest
Speaker 2: with you. I don't think this is the most in
Speaker 2: depth kind of stuff here that I'm showing. It was
Speaker 2: very short timed again because a guest canceled, So please
Speaker 2: guys add in anything that you think is missing. Again,
Speaker 2: Ricardo did mention about his whole thing about understanding who
Speaker 2: this guy even is. Toward the end of his life,
Speaker 2: he did claim to be Leopold George, the lost eldest
Speaker 2: son of Prince Francis second Transylvania, So uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: did have that. Now. His education, it says by his
Speaker 2: own unverified account, Saint Germaine was educated in Italy. He
Speaker 2: allegedly studied at the University of Siena and was mentored
Speaker 2: by Chion Dimadici. It's some presents the Grand Duke of Tuscany,
Speaker 2: who was said to be a relative by marriage. He
Speaker 2: mentions that then such an education.
Speaker 1: That is highly relevant because that was one of the
Speaker 1: most knowledgeable mystics of the time. So because he was
Speaker 1: patron of everybody, They've been patronizing this grand brains since
Speaker 1: Lenardo da Vinci.
Speaker 4: I've heard of this guy from Tuscany before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well so depending on I guess how you want
Speaker 2: to look at it. I mean, if they they they
Speaker 2: paid Marsillia Fucino to translate all those workings, I would
Speaker 2: say they were even behind the whole Renaissance.
Speaker 1: Oh. Possibly, But but you have to understand that this
Speaker 1: Jianga son was the last one. So it is the
Speaker 1: end of the of the Mandaicy empire or family. It's
Speaker 1: the end he's He's the last one. So from that
Speaker 1: point on it doesn't count because they lost whatever he had.
Speaker 1: It's it's lost or perverted or whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it. Right, So I think that's significant because he
Speaker 1: centermine was the last one that he mentored.
Speaker 2: Possibly, Okay, I gotcha. Do you know is there any
Speaker 2: like lineages or lines that come from that guy, or
Speaker 2: like study from well, you know, how like like some
Speaker 2: secret societies are like but they act more gentlemen. You
Speaker 2: supposedly have to be in a lineage of somebody who
Speaker 2: learned from Crowley. You know what I'm saying? Is there
Speaker 2: anything associated with like the Medici family? Not to put
Speaker 2: you on the spot, that.
Speaker 1: I can say, because I never looked dipped into the medicine,
Speaker 1: I know that they were the most connected. So I
Speaker 1: would assume a big yes what you're asking because they
Speaker 1: were highly connected in everything. In fact, you can relate
Speaker 1: to the end. The Templars by this time were particularly done.
Speaker 1: And this is eighteen nineteenth century, sixth seventeenth century, I
Speaker 1: can't remember, but the the last lines of the Templars
Speaker 1: can be traced also to this, to this guy, to
Speaker 1: this Jacomo. So there's also that connection Rosa Chruscian's Merovindians.
Speaker 1: He has connections to all of those people.
Speaker 2: Yo. You know what's well? It says the Duke. But
Speaker 2: like one of my favorite songs I was just thinking
Speaker 2: now by dream Theater is the Count of Tuscany. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're talking about the same ol. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, can I continue? You got anything else you
Speaker 2: want to hit anybody, anybody.
Speaker 7: Well, I was going to bring up if you look
Speaker 7: at some of the Opus Day material, there is a
Speaker 7: count of Saint Germain that was said to be one
Speaker 7: of the heads of Opus Day, but they equated more
Speaker 7: to a Catholic saint than they do to the Saint
Speaker 7: Germain we're talking about, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, is that the case. But although some people
Speaker 1: like to think that Jermain was already hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of years when he appeared here, my research tells me no,
Speaker 1: it might still be alive who knows today, But his
Speaker 1: life started at some point at that age, at the
Speaker 1: age that he's indicated, So I don't think he comes
Speaker 1: from anywhere behind that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So like he's he could be old, it's go on,
Speaker 2: go on, Nick, So what you said, Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I didn't really need to interrupt you for that. So, like, basically,
Speaker 2: what you're saying is that he could be old, but
Speaker 2: it's not because he was born any earlier, since he's
Speaker 2: still alive or lasted longer.
Speaker 1: Yes, So if I have several quotes, quotes from people
Speaker 1: that actually was with him and describe him, and on
Speaker 1: one of the quotes is the King Luis the fourteenth
Speaker 1: or I think it's the fourteens, because he went well
Speaker 1: along with the fourteenth, but he was persecuted by the fifteen.
Speaker 1: But on this quote, he asked him, are you are
Speaker 1: you really immortal? And he said, I love to entertain
Speaker 1: the idea that people think that I'm much older than
Speaker 1: I am. However, however i'm older sealed then they might sing.
Speaker 1: So he always gave one on one side and on
Speaker 1: on the other. Because he never assumed himself is like
Speaker 1: a Neil, you can't grab him. He always made a way.
Speaker 1: I can look and find the quote because I think
Speaker 1: it needs justice. So if anyone wants to comment on anything,
Speaker 1: while I look for the quote real quick.
Speaker 2: I'll mentioned some of the other names he did go by.
Speaker 2: I just get passed this one. Throughout his life, he
Speaker 2: did deliberately conceal his identity identity, adopting numerous pseudonyms as
Speaker 2: he traveled. He called himself, I'm not going to pronounce
Speaker 2: these right, I'm sure Marquis d mont Ferret, Count bellamare
Speaker 2: saw you there? Added you Chevalier Shooning, Count saltykov A
Speaker 2: graph So Roji and Prince Ragazzi. And only in the
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies did he begin consistently using the title Count
Speaker 2: of Saint Germaine. And uh, it's suspected that maybe it
Speaker 2: was referred to San Germano Italy, or perhaps a play
Speaker 2: on Sanctus Germanus, the Holy Brother. You good now, uh good, now, this.
Speaker 5: Ricardo he was known.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I thought you said you wanted to
Speaker 2: bring up something you wanted to read.
Speaker 1: I'm still looking. Okay, it's it's a few pages. I'm
Speaker 1: still looking.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you're fine. Fine, just let me know when
Speaker 2: I get something.
Speaker 4: You want me to pull this up.
Speaker 5: I got it.
Speaker 4: Uh, well that we can add that.
Speaker 6: So this is in Tuscany. This is the real sword
Speaker 6: in the stone, and this is inside of the sane
Speaker 6: uh gianouh Gueda Guidi temple and.
Speaker 1: Uh, it is fascinating.
Speaker 6: These fascinating Yeah, and there's a huge story and lore
Speaker 6: that goes behind it, like.
Speaker 4: This guy readed about this right now in the Western
Speaker 4: esoteric traditions. Dude, the whole story with the sword and.
Speaker 6: If that's connected to Comte de Saint Germain, I mean
Speaker 6: it kind of makes sense. It's a really magical area.
Speaker 6: I think that that might have something to do with
Speaker 6: the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Nick, we may run into Saint Germain in this mainly
Speaker 4: p Hall book. All right, Yeah, I don't know that's
Speaker 4: Penguin Classics.
Speaker 5: That was a Penguin Classics.
Speaker 4: It's a no, no, it's a it's the Adepts in
Speaker 4: the Western Esoteric Tradition Orders of the Great work. It
Speaker 4: talks about the Manicheans for a while and Manes. It
Speaker 4: was pretty based, and a bunch of other.
Speaker 5: Pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 4: But it gets into the archery and mysteries and the
Speaker 4: Rose Croy and Camelot, you know, Merlin. Very interesting things
Speaker 4: on Merlin. How his father was a sylph, you know,
Speaker 4: like a wind spirit, and his mother was a nun
Speaker 4: and apparently he had.
Speaker 1: To be.
Speaker 4: Exercise throughout his early life as as a child. Kind
Speaker 4: Of terrifying, but yeah, cool book. Anyway, You guys are
Speaker 4: always invited to come and join us Saturday mornings. But
Speaker 4: I mean, dude, this begs the question, so like, what
Speaker 4: is this guy? Is he a vampire? Is he a
Speaker 4: time traveler? Is he some kind of elohem? Is he
Speaker 4: some kind of ascended master? Like, I don't know, dude,
Speaker 4: There's there's so many avenues to go down is a
Speaker 4: very good alchemist.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he's a very good alchemist. And the quotes
Speaker 1: that I was finding is says If himself, said to Louis,
Speaker 1: it was Louis the fifteen when asked one question, but
Speaker 1: the two quotes, and I mixed them those two. So
Speaker 1: to the Lewis fifteen he said, when he asked about
Speaker 1: his eighties, said, sire, I sometimes amuse not by making
Speaker 1: it believed, but by allowing it to be believed that
Speaker 1: I lived in ancient times. And to the Baron von Glishen,
Speaker 1: he said, these stupid Parisians imagine that I am five
Speaker 1: hundred years old, and I encourage them to that sort
Speaker 1: because I see it pleases them, although in reality I
Speaker 1: am much older than I look.
Speaker 7: So he was known for basically being able to manufacture
Speaker 7: the Philosopher's Stone, the Red Stone that you know is
Speaker 7: the medicine handed down that basically cures all ills and
Speaker 7: extends life. And it's this extent, yeah chemical process, you know,
Speaker 7: basically refining this you where you take and you extract
Speaker 7: the oils from certain things, and then you crystallize those
Speaker 7: oils into this stone and then it's got these regenerative
Speaker 7: life giving properties it's oftentimes associated with mercury and cinnabar.
Speaker 7: Is what a lot. But you know, there was Chinese
Speaker 7: alchemists that were using mercury and cinnabar that basically killed
Speaker 7: themselves trying to replicate some of these alchemical experiments you know,
Speaker 7: and probably others as well.
Speaker 4: But it happened early on too with lead because that's
Speaker 4: all they had to use, you know, they couldn't anything else.
Speaker 6: That That whole angle with the cinnabar kind of takes
Speaker 6: us right back to Tuscany because this is where the
Speaker 6: ancient what are they called, the people before the Romans?
Speaker 6: I can't believe a blanket on their names, no, but
Speaker 6: you know etruscans yea, they would cover themselves in cinnabar, right,
Speaker 6: And so we're right back to Tuscany again, right back
Speaker 6: to Italy.
Speaker 7: And imagine with that mercury content absorbing through the skin,
Speaker 7: what that's.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you look into their religious system, they were
Speaker 6: absolutely insane. There's so many strange things that they would do.
Speaker 1: But he he actually manufactured the so called Philosopher's stone
Speaker 1: or transforming things into gold in front of Louis the
Speaker 1: fourteen at least because Louis the fourteen registered that in
Speaker 1: these documents. But when he was asked, does this makes
Speaker 1: you immortal? He always answered, Now, it only stops decay
Speaker 1: of the body, so you need to take it regularly.
Speaker 1: It's not something that you take once and and it works, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's it's something to stop the decay.
Speaker 5: And one dangerous man danger.
Speaker 1: One important thing that I don't know if Nick found
Speaker 1: in this research is that although he went to a
Speaker 1: lot of parties, he was never in environment that he
Speaker 1: couldn't control. If you couldn't control, he would just believe.
Speaker 1: And another thing that I find very curious, he was
Speaker 1: never seen either drinking or eating. He never ate or drank.
Speaker 1: Cooks his own cooks wherever he went, and he eats
Speaker 1: a very particular type of food that I have in
Speaker 1: my research but I can't remember, right, like a porridge
Speaker 1: kind of thing he ate, sorry.
Speaker 4: Kind of like a monk. How they don't, you know,
Speaker 4: they fast and they don't really.
Speaker 1: He only eat a kind of porridge that was made
Speaker 1: especially for him for his personal servant, and he didn't
Speaker 1: eat outside of that.
Speaker 4: Nick Nick just said that that's the garment bosia from
Speaker 4: twin Peaks. Nick dammit.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't get it.
Speaker 2: A man, real quick, real quick. Sorry interrupted, Lisa. You're
Speaker 2: sorry to put you on the spot real quick, but
Speaker 2: uh you're here. So hey, Lisa, I am cult reject
Speaker 2: man scientist. What is up?
Speaker 3: How?
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Speaker 2: So awesome, Thank you very much. Uh did anybody have
Speaker 2: anything else they wanted to head before? I?
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you guys want to see some red mercury?
Speaker 2: Oh? I want to kind of go along with well,
Speaker 2: all right, yeah.
Speaker 4: Let's see the red mercury. And also, was there any
Speaker 4: like experiences of seeing this guy and uh, how going
Speaker 4: to do with orbs or any kind of UFO or anything? Not?
Speaker 1: Not to my knowledge, because apparently what he might be
Speaker 1: using is the calls false doors, So they might have
Speaker 1: the use of the false what we call false doors
Speaker 1: might be actual portals from one place to another. That's
Speaker 1: why the monuments you find so many false doors around
Speaker 1: and everyone. It's like a Muda moodle but inside the
Speaker 1: building right and and proper sized, which isn't.
Speaker 6: All right, guys, let me see if I can full
Speaker 6: or play this real quick.
Speaker 2: Look in the mirror.
Speaker 4: I can't see it.
Speaker 1: It's it at all.
Speaker 5: It's not show it's not showing up. That's what I
Speaker 5: was want to say.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's also repulsed by garlic, like.
Speaker 5: What do you mean.
Speaker 8: Mirror?
Speaker 4: And I'm saying Saint Germaine a vampire.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 1: Are you sure that we are looking the bottom of
Speaker 1: the flask on the mirror, because I don't think we are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can see right there.
Speaker 1: He's done other tests like this.
Speaker 7: It's hard to tell.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna I want to.
Speaker 1: Believe you, but this video isn't clear to me. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna trust them.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with my gut feeling on
Speaker 4: this one.
Speaker 5: I want to believe.
Speaker 6: If you look up Red Mercury on Instagram something else,
Speaker 6: he's got tons of tests.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he just there's all sorts of stuff with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but assume If that's true, there's probably stuff out
Speaker 2: there to say.
Speaker 9: So I'm going to be the kid in the back
Speaker 9: of the classroom raising their hand and say when was
Speaker 9: he allegedly born.
Speaker 5: There's no day I talked about that.
Speaker 4: I think Denny Ricardo.
Speaker 9: In the Morning is probably at the beginning. We're mentioning
Speaker 9: it at the beginning of listening.
Speaker 1: So the best, it's not the best. What ninety percent
Speaker 1: of people believe that went really deep into his is
Speaker 1: that you'll just have to see Francis the second from Transylvania.
Speaker 1: So it's about the time of his deaths is when
Speaker 1: he appears with about six seven years old. Seven he
Speaker 1: was the oldest son. So I believe it's it's within
Speaker 1: it's within already the eighteenth century. That I might be
Speaker 1: wrong right at at the beginning of the eighteenth century
Speaker 1: or just at the end of the seventeenth century, because
Speaker 1: when he said that he was older than he looked,
Speaker 1: he might be hinting that he was born earlier than
Speaker 1: most sink.
Speaker 9: So you would say that most of the low surrounding
Speaker 9: that he was around the fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because he dismissed it. He always rejected.
Speaker 4: That Like I said, the only reason I think he
Speaker 4: may be some kind of oop here or vampire species,
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, is because he comes
Speaker 4: from Transylvania supposedly, and you know the Impaler like we
Speaker 4: had brought up earlier, and all the lore stemming from
Speaker 4: that region.
Speaker 6: So well, that he's afraid of garlic and he can't show.
Speaker 4: Up in mirrors. Okay, no, all right, Yeah, so he's
Speaker 4: a vampire alchemist.
Speaker 2: He's an alchemist.
Speaker 4: Dude, that sounds pretty That sounds kind of cool. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna lie. That's a cool. That's a badass band name,
Speaker 4: Vampire Alchemist. Did you see the movie album name?
Speaker 2: At least?
Speaker 9: Have you ever heard of the myth of Loundeness Longinus?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Long Please remind me because the name is familiar, but
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 9: He was the Roman soldier that pierced the side of
Speaker 9: Jesus with the lands and was said to be cursed
Speaker 9: to walk the face of the earth forever and never die. Yes,
Speaker 9: association that maybe.
Speaker 1: What I've been discussing is that even according to him,
Speaker 1: whatever secret that him and two are free, more that
Speaker 1: history records knew is how to stop the decay of
Speaker 1: the body of the flesh by several takes, which to
Speaker 1: me doesn't fit with someone that is already cursed. I
Speaker 1: think that's a different kind of immortal.
Speaker 7: Well, and also.
Speaker 9: Just really quick, sorry, Robbie, just that most of the
Speaker 9: people had experienced some of these Marian apparitions to experience
Speaker 9: their bodies being incorruptible. That's what reminded me of that. Anyway,
Speaker 9: go ahead, Robbie, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say. I've also seen several occurrences where
Speaker 7: they relate Cagliostro to Saint Germain. And then are you
Speaker 7: familiar with the Sir Edward Bulletton book about the Zoni,
Speaker 7: because that's supposed to be about Cagliostro, And I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's just interesting how he, like we were saying, you know,
Speaker 7: he appears out of nowhere and disappears just as quickly,
Speaker 7: and he's always keen in on these certain political, you know,
Speaker 7: events where that are like history's.
Speaker 1: The same thing, it's the same thing. It's exactly that.
Speaker 1: That's why I in the beginning i mentioned his The
Speaker 1: thing is when they try to combine both of them
Speaker 1: into one person. There are historical portraits and they are
Speaker 1: extremely different in every shape or form from one another,
Speaker 1: because Cagliostro was not a pretty man.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: Not that tall, perhaps a little bit fat. He was
Speaker 1: much more a diplomat than an action man. And in
Speaker 1: the case of Saint Germain, he is also described as
Speaker 1: incredibly handsome with a face that has no wage. So
Speaker 1: it's one of those people that always looks like it
Speaker 1: is in the thirties, forties or something like that. His
Speaker 1: air impeccable. So they are very different. It's the only
Speaker 1: reason why we can immediately put one on the other
Speaker 1: because they did exactly the same things in two separate
Speaker 1: with a century separating them.
Speaker 7: And then you also had linked Saint Germaine to Casanova.
Speaker 1: Yes, because there were agents trains at the same.
Speaker 2: Time, him and Voltaire and Mozart.
Speaker 1: So they they were they were both trying to to
Speaker 1: shape the history, because that's what these people did. They
Speaker 1: actually reshape the history. They unified German again. That's his
Speaker 1: final deed was that. And what what you're saying it
Speaker 1: that Liza remembers me speaking about him is because it's
Speaker 1: also the last event where he is recorded by in
Speaker 1: this case by Casanova. So Casanova found him in a
Speaker 1: star Ford, one of the last ones to belong to
Speaker 1: a group of Merovingians, and he was completely dressed. I
Speaker 1: have the description of the scene right here, so it's
Speaker 1: in the curiosities just so. In one of the most
Speaker 1: known accounts, this time in Tourney in Belgium, written by
Speaker 1: the notorious cevalier design goalds Uh, he describes finding German
Speaker 1: dressed with an Armenian robes. So imagine being in Belgium
Speaker 1: dressed in an Armenian robe, and upon his head was
Speaker 1: a pointed cap, his face was half healing by a
Speaker 1: long beard that went all the way into his waist,
Speaker 1: and on his hand he hold a ivory wand so
Speaker 1: it could have been like Dumbledore. Imagine like there was So.
Speaker 2: Sounds like the village in New York City.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the fact that that Chermant shows the city
Speaker 1: of Tournet to stay for a while is no surprise
Speaker 1: since it was one of the old Merovigian cities, a
Speaker 1: Starford city. Apart from some locations in Portugal, in that
Speaker 1: day and age, there were very places, very few places
Speaker 1: where an occultist could openly profess and dress himself to
Speaker 1: feed the part. So in here what he was doing
Speaker 1: is at this time and age, and this is what
Speaker 1: Lisa heard me say. He was, let me go back
Speaker 1: to you, because I like to see your faces where
Speaker 1: there you are. So he was playing to create a
Speaker 1: new type of felcrow for hats. And just about three
Speaker 1: or four years after this event, Germany revolutionized the world
Speaker 1: in how to make ads and they destroyed all other
Speaker 1: markets with this new type of fabric that I believe
Speaker 1: was invented by Saint Germain. Was one of these last
Speaker 1: jobs for money or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: So he didn't only compose music, write with both hands
Speaker 1: an historical account and a love letter at the same time.
Speaker 1: He also could write with both hands the same text
Speaker 1: and you could put it one on top of the other.
Speaker 1: The description is they put one one one leaf on
Speaker 1: top of the other to the candle and you can't
Speaker 1: see a single line off the mark. It's basically he spoke.
Speaker 1: I don't know seventeen languages, including sanskripts. I can even
Speaker 1: tell you the language he spoke.
Speaker 2: French, Yeah, I have that written. He spoke French, Britain, Uh, yeah, Italian, English, Polish, Spanish, Portuguese, Wow, Yes,
Speaker 2: spoke a lot.
Speaker 5: Somebody brought up the Wondering Jew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, said that.
Speaker 8: I was just saying I just missed this, and I said,
Speaker 8: we were just talking about that before we went live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, uh he was.
Speaker 5: He was a good one.
Speaker 4: He was a good one. You know, he's a good guy.
Speaker 4: I don't know who the one. Yeah, I heard y'all
Speaker 4: talking about him. I'm bringing him up. I don't want
Speaker 4: to get the stream taken down. Oh god, yeah, right,
Speaker 4: not just saying the word.
Speaker 2: Really do they get like that though?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's why.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, I called myself, Well, it's
Speaker 1: a player.
Speaker 6: So we're talking about the plant, not a person, because
Speaker 6: that that's a name popular.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 6: Actually it comes from a nursery. So you can buy
Speaker 6: wandering Jew plants at a nursery and they look kind
Speaker 6: of interested. But the whole idea is that it it
Speaker 6: kind of goes back to this idea of you know,
Speaker 6: back to the blood of Jesus falling on the ground
Speaker 6: and then where it fell, that's where the wandering Jew
Speaker 6: plant came up. And then this person who was witnessed
Speaker 6: to the miracle was told that he would live until
Speaker 6: Jesus returns.
Speaker 4: Yo to Wright a minute is.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, he he was described. He was described not
Speaker 1: only speaking all of these languages, but speaking to them
Speaker 1: with no accent whatsoever. To see if I have anything
Speaker 1: to add what you said. So the least I have
Speaker 1: is German, English, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Greek, Latin, Sanscript,
Speaker 1: Arabic and Chinese as if he was a native of
Speaker 1: this of of those countries.
Speaker 4: And around learn all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he played the violence supposedly.
Speaker 1: This vampire I wrote, I wrote, I wrote my paper
Speaker 1: on him listening to his six Sonatas, which I had
Speaker 1: advised everyone to go and listen. And he wrote his
Speaker 1: six sonatas in such a short time and during a
Speaker 1: period what he was in and out of jail in England,
Speaker 1: because he was arrested many times and somehow they couldn't
Speaker 1: keep it locked in. Somehow he's always released and the
Speaker 1: people that brought him in as a spy and so on,
Speaker 1: why are we releasing him?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And he always came out with the laughter because he
Speaker 1: knew he wouldn't be kept in prison for law.
Speaker 2: You know, I actually have something about his age and
Speaker 2: other people saying stuff about it. But real quick, I
Speaker 2: just want to read this other stuff, these things, these
Speaker 2: claims that he said he could also do. He boasted
Speaker 2: that he was able to remove flaws from diamonds, transmute
Speaker 2: based metals into gold, and brew universal medicine e Sir
Speaker 2: of life. He said he was also able to Uh.
Speaker 2: He reportedly showed ladies that cosmetics to preserve youth and
Speaker 2: claimed to have perfected dies and pigments of wondrous qualities.
Speaker 2: The claims kind of were far fetched, but were delivered
Speaker 2: with such charm that kind of, you know, people basically
Speaker 2: fell for it. He even said that he mastered how
Speaker 2: he could melt infuse small diamonds into one large gem
Speaker 2: without laws.
Speaker 1: Of exactly yeah, yeah, exactly. Now he showed that once,
Speaker 1: at least once.
Speaker 2: That's that's impressible.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: That when he comes to his age, he said he
Speaker 2: would apply to listeners that he was centuries old, hinting
Speaker 2: and experiences in ancient errors. For example, he told Madame
Speaker 2: the Pompadour's maid that he had known Princess de Papadour's ancestors,
Speaker 2: implying an impossible age. So he told that story by
Speaker 2: the nineteen By the seventeen sixties, there was you know,
Speaker 2: talks about him and his immortality. And the philosopher of
Speaker 2: Voltaire said in seventeen sixty he had wrote that he
Speaker 2: is a man who never dies and who knows everything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a man who and he said, he dubbed him a
Speaker 2: man who does not die and knows all, calling him
Speaker 2: a wonder man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wonderman Voltaire. And he was talking about Saint Germain.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's funny you mentioned Madame Pompadout, because I have
Speaker 1: her own words, and she describes them as a sorrow.
Speaker 1: Knowledge of all languages, ancient and modern, a prodigious memory,
Speaker 1: erudition of which glimpse could be caught between the caprice
Speaker 1: of his conversation, which was always amusing and occasionally very engaging.
Speaker 1: An exhaustible skill in varying the tone and subjects of
Speaker 1: his converts, in being always fresh, and in infusing where
Speaker 1: am I being expected into the most trivial discoveries the
Speaker 1: discourse made him a superb talker. Sometimes he recounted anodotes
Speaker 1: of the court of the Valois or of the princes
Speaker 1: still more remote. So this is one hundreds years back,
Speaker 1: with such precise accuracy in every detail, as almost to
Speaker 1: create the illusion that he had been an eye witness
Speaker 1: to what he narrated. He had traveled the whole world over,
Speaker 1: and the King lent a willing year to the narratives
Speaker 1: of his voyages over Asia and Africa, and to this
Speaker 1: and to his tales about the courts of Russia, Turkey
Speaker 1: and Austria. He appeared to be more intimately acquainted with
Speaker 1: the secrets of each court than the charged affair of
Speaker 1: the King. Sorry, it was a long, lengthy one, but
Speaker 1: describes pretty well.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of Prince Charles of hes Castle.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's of his history.
Speaker 2: That girl, that family has come up in so many
Speaker 2: episodes I don't know, like solo people or even stuff
Speaker 2: that me and Lisa have covered that they always come up.
Speaker 2: But like even the Prince Charles of them even said
Speaker 2: something about him, saying he was one of the greatest
Speaker 2: philosophers who ever lived. So the lessing impression on people.
Speaker 1: The two manuscripts that is wrote so one is the
Speaker 1: one is in the library of Troy's at this moment
Speaker 1: and is called La Tre Saint Trisophony, which means the
Speaker 1: most wholly trefold Wisdom. However, some claim it might be older,
Speaker 1: and although rare and precious centire man has not written it,
Speaker 1: but being the one who possessed it and undoubtedly familiarized
Speaker 1: himself with its mystical implications and went through its ritual
Speaker 1: of spiritual enunciation. Moreover, there is little doubt that the
Speaker 1: superbly illuminated cop in the library of Troyce is not
Speaker 1: the original, but a copy. The second manuscript is a
Speaker 1: ritual of ceremonial Magic entitled the Holy Magic Revealed to Moses,
Speaker 1: we discovered in Egyptian monument and preserved with great care
Speaker 1: in Asia. The one title page, inside the triangle and
Speaker 1: above a wing dragon, we find the following writing offered
Speaker 1: by the very wise Count of Saint Germain, who has
Speaker 1: traveled all over the world. So this is the two
Speaker 1: books that I have. If you guys are interested, I
Speaker 1: can send them to you.
Speaker 6: Do you guys get that godlike quality from all of
Speaker 6: these topics, Like if you were thinking about mythology, right,
Speaker 6: something like that, Because if you're thinking about these ancient
Speaker 6: mythological stories of how the gods pop in and pop out,
Speaker 6: like in the story of a Psyche and I was
Speaker 6: a stupid, it's that same kind of quality to it,
Speaker 6: Like they know all these things and they could do
Speaker 6: these things and they're they're kind of mysterious. It's that
Speaker 6: same quality that you get through Compte Save Germain.
Speaker 9: One thing I wanted to kind of interject is that
Speaker 9: I looked at up real quick because I didn't went
Speaker 9: very what's it called fluent with My lore was that
Speaker 9: because the blood of Christ had touched him, the lore
Speaker 9: was that he was then allowed to live or whatever,
Speaker 9: not die, and that he was I guess he was
Speaker 9: assumed a saint. And he's recognized as a saint because
Speaker 9: when he pierced Jesus, they had wanted him to break
Speaker 9: his knees, as they did with all the crucifixions, to
Speaker 9: kind of, you know, end the life and everybody go home.
Speaker 9: And he said, no, he's dead, and so he didn't
Speaker 9: break the knees of Jesus, and therefore that he's considered
Speaker 9: a saint for sparing I guess the needs Jesus.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 9: He is also spoken of by in the Gospel of
Speaker 9: nick Demus and goes on to be he appears in
Speaker 9: the Bible all I just wanted to make sure that
Speaker 9: that was inserted in there, just because I didn't want
Speaker 9: to incorrectly state that that's.
Speaker 1: It's well to say that he was a god might
Speaker 1: be not that far patch as if the god got
Speaker 1: playing with us. Because there is a curious case of
Speaker 1: a protested bill of exchange, which is like a check
Speaker 1: in a small town of Piedmont, and this led to
Speaker 1: his arrest. However, he pulled out one hundred thousand crowns
Speaker 1: worth of jewels and paid on the spot. He humiliated
Speaker 1: the governor of the town and was released with the
Speaker 1: most respectful excuses. So this is the only time on
Speaker 1: his whole story that he was superb and humiliated someone directly.
Speaker 1: If you go and looked for this simon a charumut,
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand crowns is it's just like a billion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so in jewels. So where did he keep where? Where
Speaker 1: was he keeping these jewels? So it's it's almost godly like,
Speaker 1: it's like a miracle.
Speaker 2: Did you mention before he got arrested during the Jacobite rebellion?
Speaker 2: So do you have that also in here.
Speaker 1: That I have the times he was arrested.
Speaker 2: Yes, they seized an odd man who goes by the
Speaker 2: name of Count Saint Germaine. He has been here two years.
Speaker 2: He will not tell us who he is or whence
Speaker 2: he came from. Yes, yeah, he told them. What did
Speaker 2: he say to it? He says that he denies something
Speaker 2: about like I don't know anybody. He basically goes on
Speaker 2: saying that he doesn't do anything. I don't know what,
Speaker 2: I've never had any dealings with the women and admitted
Speaker 2: to using a false name. But yeah, they eventually let
Speaker 2: him go. They thought he might have been a Jacobite
Speaker 2: spy because he seemed like a weirdo.
Speaker 1: Look, when when you have a guy that when you
Speaker 1: go into papers, you have the description for this person,
Speaker 1: but he has so many names. It's so confusing. As
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, I have I have here.
Speaker 3: Uh uh.
Speaker 1: During this time, she writes, this is missus Copper Oakley.
Speaker 1: During this time, we have as the Marquis de Montferra.
Speaker 1: We have Conte bellamer or Ama in Venice. So in
Speaker 1: Venice alone had two names. Chevalier showning at Pizza in Italy.
Speaker 1: Chevalier well done in Milan and Leipzig. Counts Salti cough
Speaker 1: as Genoa and Langhorn Graft Sacossi at Schwaltzbach and Triesdorf.
Speaker 1: Prince Ragozzi at ed Resden and Counts Saint Germain in
Speaker 1: this is just and this has it's just one of those.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I find the times he was arrested.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, all those names.
Speaker 6: I noticed that there's a real connection between Hungarian and
Speaker 6: Romanian and Paris, right. It seems to be a bridge
Speaker 6: of culture between those two sources for a long time
Speaker 6: back in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: Well, and the fact that they released them to me.
Speaker 1: I have here from official documents we learned that centcher
Speaker 1: Man was in England during the year seventeen forty three.
Speaker 1: Center Man was playing the part of a gifted musician.
Speaker 1: So it's a perfect cover because he was what they
Speaker 1: call it, a savant of the violin and several of
Speaker 1: the mine.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was just about to say that too. Ricardo
Speaker 8: the Savant.
Speaker 1: And several of his music compositions were publicly performed in
Speaker 1: the Little Haymarket Theater in early Fibruary seventeen forty five,
Speaker 1: so had several of his trios published by the Walsh
Speaker 1: Company of London. Nevertheless, because this being suspicious times, England
Speaker 1: had boasted Jacobite cause and the invasion of Scotland going
Speaker 1: on behind doors. Some among the British authorities did not
Speaker 1: believe that centermin was in London to pursue a musical career,
Speaker 1: so in December of seventeen forty five, Centermain was arrested
Speaker 1: by the British on suspicion of being a Jacobite agent.
Speaker 1: He was obviously quickly released when the letters from Charles Edward,
Speaker 1: leader of the Stewart invasion, were not found on or
Speaker 1: with him, as it was expected. But the funny thing
Speaker 1: is is what happens after That's so, he has just
Speaker 1: been arrested for the charge of high treason and where
Speaker 1: do we find him? Nest he went directly into Austria
Speaker 1: and into the house of none other than the top
Speaker 1: minister in office, so Austria being England's ally. This was
Speaker 1: highly irregular. So you have to keep in mind this
Speaker 1: is the time of the period of the War of
Speaker 1: the Austrian Section, so in which Austria and England were
Speaker 1: together against France and Prussia. But it doesn't there because
Speaker 1: during this vi visit to Austria, Centerment was introduced to
Speaker 1: the French Minister of War that was also there. What
Speaker 1: was the French Minister of War doing in enemy territory
Speaker 1: whose name was Marshal de belle Isle. So and this
Speaker 1: short meeting in this next voyage and this time, this
Speaker 1: is how he entered the French court, when he was
Speaker 1: introduced with honors to the king. It's just a small
Speaker 1: part of a few two or three years of his life.
Speaker 1: All this happened in that small period of time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense because the Austria Hungarian Empire sort
Speaker 6: of came out of that. And you know, that Parisian
Speaker 6: connection is really important. Franz Muca, the guy who created
Speaker 6: Art Nouveau.
Speaker 2: He was a.
Speaker 6: Hungarian Parisian, and so that whole influence of Hungary and
Speaker 6: Paris together.
Speaker 1: Created sort of the Art Nouveau.
Speaker 6: Movement that swept across Europe.
Speaker 1: He kept doing exactly this, back and forward into enemy
Speaker 1: territory where he shouldn't be accepted or go freely, so
Speaker 1: kept being arrested and released, and there he goes again.
Speaker 2: She Now this is really interesting because now I'm wondering,
Speaker 2: like I'm looking at this stuff that he does. You know,
Speaker 2: a few years later and it mentions that while in
Speaker 2: London he was like playing in early seventeen forty five,
Speaker 2: he contributed several songs to the opera, and he started
Speaker 2: giving In seventeen forty nine, he started to give private
Speaker 2: concerts for the nobility. And Lady Jemima or whatever York said,
Speaker 2: you know, he was very much into She was very
Speaker 2: much entertained by him, the oddness of his matter. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna read everything else, she says. I'm getting to a point,
Speaker 2: but I started to think about now. She also mentioned
Speaker 2: that he's very sensible and well bred. In conversation, she wrote,
Speaker 2: he is an odd creature. He is everything with everybody.
Speaker 2: He talks ingeniously with mister Ray, philosophy with Lord Willoughby.
Speaker 2: But the character of philosopher is what he seems to
Speaker 2: pretend to. I can't but fancy he is a great
Speaker 2: pretender in all kinds of science as well, that he
Speaker 2: really has acquired an uncommon share in some Now I'm
Speaker 2: just wondering, like you were saying again, like this guy's
Speaker 2: a spy, and he's in places he's not supposed to be,
Speaker 2: Like is this whole cover right here too? Like him
Speaker 2: playing this music for these people. He's just he's getting
Speaker 2: inside the houses, possibly.
Speaker 1: Because music was his interest as an artist, right until
Speaker 1: he gets the confidence of these high people after that,
Speaker 1: he's always on their houses, right. Even King Louis the
Speaker 1: fourteen gave him a complete small palace just for him
Speaker 1: to be there and be doing his stuff. For what
Speaker 1: reason no one knows, but it was supposed to be
Speaker 1: my services he has done for Fred, supposedly in this
Speaker 1: war that we're just talking about.
Speaker 2: See, even the Prince of Wells was impressed and was
Speaker 2: even trying to figure out who he was, too sure
Speaker 2: he was everywhere.
Speaker 1: This guy was everywhere, and no one knows who he
Speaker 1: is in truth, So how is he given consul to kings?
Speaker 1: How is appearing in these people's quarters with the use
Speaker 1: of no doors?
Speaker 5: Doors? Is the meditation? Bro?
Speaker 8: You just like you said earlier, you know the stargates,
Speaker 8: the star portals, you know all that other stuff. You
Speaker 8: gotta remember the pie neal, Glenn, the third eye, that's
Speaker 8: the that's the that's the consciousness, that's the portals, that's
Speaker 8: the traveling outside of our body that people don't realize
Speaker 8: you're saying it. Bro's he's been. It's the same time
Speaker 8: telling you he sounds like Jesus to me, many different names,
Speaker 8: different abilities. I mean, you gotta remember from the apocrypha.
Speaker 8: Jesus wasn't always a good person either. He used some
Speaker 8: of his his powers to make himself probably laugh. I mean,
Speaker 8: you remember theoker for the Forbidden Booths when people falling
Speaker 8: off rules and he bringing them back to life, and
Speaker 8: he's killing friends on purpose just so he can resurrect.
Speaker 5: Them and stuff like that. You know, this is knowledge
Speaker 5: that people have been pressed. And you got to remember
Speaker 5: this is all through a journey.
Speaker 8: You know, we don't You don't, we don't learn.
Speaker 5: How can I say it?
Speaker 8: You remember that you heard you ever heard that saying
Speaker 8: I wish I knew what I knew now that I
Speaker 8: that I could have learned.
Speaker 1: My question to you, my question to you is are
Speaker 1: you raising Center to the quality of a son of
Speaker 1: a god with powers or are you lowering Jesus to
Speaker 1: someone who was initiated and had certain powers.
Speaker 8: Well that's a good question because let's let's put it
Speaker 8: in a perspective of this. Both of them just both
Speaker 8: basically taught us that we had to look with them
Speaker 8: to accomplish what we wanted.
Speaker 5: That it's still mystical.
Speaker 8: Right and lowering or putting somebody on a pedestal, whether
Speaker 8: a god or not you got to remember, every god
Speaker 8: on this planet has the same type of personality as
Speaker 8: eating every individual on this planet. They're no different than us.
Speaker 8: Their personalities are just like us. Yeah, that's why we're.
Speaker 1: Are we we are we stating because I would support that,
Speaker 1: Are we stating that gods are just people with the
Speaker 1: technology that we still called magic because we don't understand it.
Speaker 8: Well science that hasn't caught up yet for us at least.
Speaker 7: So if you follow this back going into the Merrivnian bloodline,
Speaker 7: you know, going back to the line of Jesus into
Speaker 7: the Middle East, if this is the case, maybe tied
Speaker 7: in with the magi and some sort of like you're
Speaker 7: saying technology that persists that's been hidden. Yeah, it is interesting,
Speaker 7: you know, philosophically to think about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when you look into his books, it's it's
Speaker 1: not that different from Egyptian magic or a.
Speaker 4: Type of europe I'm going to say, Yeah, you go
Speaker 4: back to King Solomon and he and he was using
Speaker 4: these invocations to do all these things, and this is
Speaker 4: the same, you know, type of magic. In my opinion, what.
Speaker 8: If kids with Magdalen, Oh that's good, And you know what,
Speaker 8: I actually have a book I actually have a book
Speaker 8: series from the sixteen hundred seventeen hundreds that actually goes
Speaker 8: into a great detail on that. It's called The Mary
Speaker 8: of Agreta, and it's a very interesting book because the
Speaker 8: lady herself got this information supposedly from the Virgin Mary herself.
Speaker 8: It's an eight series book that's in new modern times
Speaker 8: put into a four book count, so it's eight series
Speaker 8: within four different types of books. It's very very interesting,
Speaker 8: you say that. And the reason why I'm saying that
Speaker 8: is because for the simple fact that we don't know
Speaker 8: who the Virgin Mary is. We don't even know anything
Speaker 8: about this guy either. Like I said, if we look
Speaker 8: at the idea of reincarnation and coming back to another
Speaker 8: body form or living many years and thousands of years
Speaker 8: and so on and so forth, we can go back
Speaker 8: to Gilgamesh when he was trying to live forever. We
Speaker 8: can go to the simple fact that those is also
Speaker 8: known as Hermes and Triguessus, and then we also know
Speaker 8: him as as coco Con and Quetzo Koto. We don't
Speaker 8: know these time frames that these individuals really actually survived.
Speaker 1: We have.
Speaker 8: A given time frame, but we don't actually have a
Speaker 8: timeframe and we always know that these characteristics carried forward
Speaker 8: each and every time. Now, a good example of this
Speaker 8: is just recent times. There was this kid, not in
Speaker 8: recent times, a couple of years now, but.
Speaker 5: By far.
Speaker 8: It's funny that it was on the Ancient Alien show
Speaker 8: where a kid remember his past life from a war
Speaker 8: fighter from I think like World War two or something
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 5: So and he drew these pictures out. He literally drew
Speaker 5: these pictures out.
Speaker 8: His family didn't even take him serious until he started
Speaker 8: naming out buddies that died in battle with him, his
Speaker 8: aircraft number and the aircraft parts itself. And he even
Speaker 8: knew how to fly because they took him to an
Speaker 8: air show one time and he was telling everybody exactly
Speaker 8: how to use that aircraft. So we have an indication
Speaker 8: of life after death, keep carrying on their personalities even
Speaker 8: after death.
Speaker 5: Well do energy never dies?
Speaker 4: Also have those talking about the halls of halls of
Speaker 4: amente and stuff.
Speaker 5: And I was just about to go on to.
Speaker 4: Uh reincarnation chambers right.
Speaker 7: Also there use if you go into the Eastern traditions,
Speaker 7: there's a great body of evidence in regard to controlled
Speaker 7: reincarnation and and basically and you know, you look at
Speaker 7: the Dalai Lama and how they go in and they
Speaker 7: test and they find you know, is in and so
Speaker 7: you know these are all yeah, dude.
Speaker 4: Those are those fucking lamas can go in there, lay
Speaker 4: down to a ceremony and leave their bodies willingly and
Speaker 4: then come back if they want.
Speaker 2: You know, I got shipped on that, you know those
Speaker 2: and then when those dudes die, you know, no ship
Speaker 2: I actually have like a I'm going to topics like
Speaker 2: you know there they have somebody, they disappear, no for
Speaker 2: a month, their body doesn't show any sign of the
Speaker 2: k Right, those people that supposedly can do that.
Speaker 4: Their incorrupt right there, they hit that peak of enlightenment
Speaker 4: where it's like you know.
Speaker 7: There there are several monks in recent times that as
Speaker 7: they know they're dying, they'll actually drink huge vats of
Speaker 7: salt water to basically uh crystal and to preserve their body.
Speaker 10: So you were talking about the guys were sorry had
Speaker 10: this one on how these guys were getting buried in
Speaker 10: these rituals and being brought back and they were all
Speaker 10: leathery and like real uh you know, dry, and they
Speaker 10: were they would pour water on.
Speaker 4: Them and they would basically, you know, wake up and
Speaker 4: come back to life and walk off, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 7: A lot of amazing stories in the Eastern texts mean.
Speaker 6: Well, the mellified man was a Chinese ritual where a
Speaker 6: man would be eating honey NonStop for a year, right
Speaker 6: just where he only had honey inside of him, and
Speaker 6: when he would die, they would cover the rest of
Speaker 6: his body and honey until the entire thing was like
Speaker 6: one giant crystallized honey block and black. They would use
Speaker 6: his body as a universal medicine so that it would
Speaker 6: cure any illness.
Speaker 7: There was a tradition where they would actually make a
Speaker 7: blue honey and this is in the South American Mayaki
Speaker 7: culture and and basically create this and when you when
Speaker 7: you partook of it, you received all the information from
Speaker 7: the ancestors within you, you know. So yeah, that's good
Speaker 7: stuff man. Well of Christ, what's that? Blood of Christ?
Speaker 7: Blood of Christ? Yeah? Going back to milchiese a dick.
Speaker 1: Don't get me started, Tyne. Have you ever have you
Speaker 1: ever seen sorry go on going No?
Speaker 4: Sorry, brother, And I was just telling Robbie he has
Speaker 4: to come on.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 4: I think Nick was even telling me you would like
Speaker 4: to come on one of the book reviews, I was
Speaker 4: telling headless too, but his Internet went out, Yeah, I'd
Speaker 4: love to. Yeah, yeah, some stuff we talked about.
Speaker 5: I think you really like.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's all probably.
Speaker 1: What I was going to remind is for have you
Speaker 1: seen the John Cameron documentary The Tomb of Jesus.
Speaker 8: No, no, my thig one is the Passion of Christ.
Speaker 8: That's the only one that I like watch. No that,
Speaker 8: but that is a that.
Speaker 1: Is a movie. The Tomb of Jesus is actually so
Speaker 1: we did. Everyone knows he did that from Titanic and
Speaker 1: then the movie came from that, right muh. In this case,
Speaker 1: he discovered that there was a guy the complaining that
Speaker 1: you was trying to amplify the house and went into
Speaker 1: a tomb, and so archaeologists decided to completely shut down
Speaker 1: the area because they considered the sacred ground. And after
Speaker 1: a long process, he managed to reach out to John Cameron.
Speaker 1: John camer became very interested in filming it, and when
Speaker 1: they got to permits to enter and so on, what
Speaker 1: they found is one of the tombs have the name
Speaker 1: of Yees's son of Joseph. He has Mary Magdalene also
Speaker 1: named on one of the tombs and they have several
Speaker 1: what they think they were sons of them. So this
Speaker 1: is probably from the early two thousands. So I really
Speaker 1: strongly recommend you, Sab you see that because either you
Speaker 1: believe it or not. But it is as it is
Speaker 1: more factual than the Bible, because the Bible it is
Speaker 1: just words, and there you have something factual to look upon.
Speaker 1: Is it coincidence of names? Perhaps, but it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: because the family members are are are all corresponding to
Speaker 1: the actual names and how they would be written in
Speaker 1: Hebrew and not in our timeus interesting and the written
Speaker 1: a yes, yes, thank you. And another thing I wanted
Speaker 1: to put in is in terms of reincarnation, I think
Speaker 1: sometimes reincarnation might be misunderstood as someone that gains a
Speaker 1: connection to what people usually called. You gave several names.
Speaker 1: I'm giving it the Akashik record. Someone that gets in
Speaker 1: there and gets a threat and captures that threat and
Speaker 1: remembers those things. So it doesn't mean that it is
Speaker 1: the same person reincarnating, but it's someone that got a
Speaker 1: thread of a particularly line time of the Akashik Record
Speaker 1: and gets all of that information in one goal and
Speaker 1: assumes it at his own right, yes, because it's it's
Speaker 1: very personal right to those that use the ACASK record
Speaker 1: can understand that the information that people get, be it
Speaker 1: a musician an artist, when we're getting this this scene
Speaker 1: that pak channelizing when downloads.
Speaker 4: That's so that's where they're coming from, right.
Speaker 7: Well, that is it just more a matter of the
Speaker 7: vibrational waveform that.
Speaker 1: Exactly would be.
Speaker 7: And so because of the resonant frequency, you kind of
Speaker 7: you know, preclude and take that onto as part of
Speaker 7: exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Because if you if you associate the theory of Rupert
Speaker 1: Sheldrake the the bio can you help me tyrone what
Speaker 1: is what you called the.
Speaker 7: Bio biomagnetic electric biogenetic suit.
Speaker 1: So it's there's a wave that is outside the body, right,
Speaker 1: and that wave vibrates according to the emotions of the
Speaker 1: body itself. So if you tune to certain levels when
Speaker 1: you are, for instance, creating, that can help you to
Speaker 1: get some type of frequency. You connect to that and
Speaker 1: then you start channeling. That's why if you are stressed
Speaker 1: you can get the same results. You have to be
Speaker 1: almost absent for that to occur and then it flows
Speaker 1: in one state is yeah, So what I was trying
Speaker 1: to connect is if someone gets into one of those states,
Speaker 1: but by coincidence has a frequency that exactly the one
Speaker 1: that has all that timeline of someone, you can incorporate
Speaker 1: that and see it as yourself. I'm sorry I made
Speaker 1: it too long, but I just want.
Speaker 2: One thing I was going to add. I think it's
Speaker 2: interesting about this guy in seventeen forty nine and the
Speaker 2: King employed Saint Germaine on his secret diplomatic missions.
Speaker 7: But here we get Intel.
Speaker 5: Liked him.
Speaker 2: He was an agent who come up with Louis the
Speaker 2: fifteenth and well, then I even have a real quick
Speaker 2: I know, because I think Riccardi. You mentioned Casanova before.
Speaker 2: It may safely be said that as a controversialist, he
Speaker 2: was unequaled. That's what he said about him. And he
Speaker 2: also said that he he was always aimed at exciting amazement.
Speaker 2: Yes he did say that. But yeah, when he was
Speaker 2: with King Louis the fifteenth, he also gave him. The
Speaker 2: King gave him a laboratory space.
Speaker 1: And I was saying a small palace, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a thousand francs to pursue scientific experiments. Jeez, he's
Speaker 2: doing it up.
Speaker 1: The only thing that the official people says is that
Speaker 1: from seventeen four time the king employed him on diplomatic missions,
Speaker 1: and he acquitted himself honorary in them. That's the only
Speaker 1: mention of the missions that exists in paperwork.
Speaker 8: You know what's so funny and interesting about this is
Speaker 8: that you never know who you're talking to. You never
Speaker 8: know who is who. Anybody in this room could be
Speaker 8: a Jesus or deity of some sort. Any one of
Speaker 8: us could be anybody that you come in contact. That's
Speaker 8: why I always say, you know, the most important thing
Speaker 8: for me to do is just always try to learn
Speaker 8: everybody that's around me, Understand everybody that's around me, because
Speaker 8: there's people come into your lives for a reason. This
Speaker 8: person came into everybody's life for a reason. We're talking
Speaker 8: about him in twenty twenty five for a reason, right.
Speaker 8: And I said this before plenty of times to you guys.
Speaker 8: You die twice on this planet. You die once when
Speaker 8: you're physically dead, okay, and you die second time when
Speaker 8: nobody mentions your name. This man is not dead yet,
Speaker 8: because we still mention his name in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 8: You don't have to be physically alive for somebody to
Speaker 8: make a change in this world. Because look at Jesus, right,
Speaker 8: and everybody will argue whether he's really Hey.
Speaker 7: It's like the Halls of Valhalla.
Speaker 1: In the eighties. You have a guy claiming that he
Speaker 1: was Cent Chermain. He even went on television.
Speaker 7: And all yeah, people, And if you compare those pictures,
Speaker 7: a lot of people have that. You know, I've seen
Speaker 7: the pictures side by side Saint Germaine and this guy
Speaker 7: that came and ah, okay, maybe.
Speaker 1: The last thing from his history, the last thing you
Speaker 1: would see Sen Germain appearing and saying, hey, here I am.
Speaker 1: Publicity on me, right, It doesn't make any sense. If
Speaker 1: you're still alive, you'll still operate at the higher echelan,
Speaker 1: but under the under the raider, because no, I don't
Speaker 1: want people to know that I'm four hundred years old,
Speaker 1: otherwise they'll be on to me.
Speaker 7: Right, So headless. You had mentioned earlier this unknown patriot.
Speaker 7: Why don't you tell us that story?
Speaker 6: Oh well, I was just mentro real quick. The uh
Speaker 6: the connection to Romania and vampires and possible ancient pyramids.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: So another another character in this whole thing was Urzabette Battery,
Speaker 6: and she was Hungarian princess in the same sort of area,
Speaker 6: and she bathed in women's Blood right to keep her young. Specifically,
Speaker 6: there's a.
Speaker 4: Sick black metal band named after her.
Speaker 8: There's a part in Hostile that was about like that too.
Speaker 6: Right again, Hostile, It's this Eastern European brutal kind of
Speaker 6: motif that keeps coming back. It's like there's something about
Speaker 6: that that that's really dark. And there are so many
Speaker 6: like haunted sites that I've seen on these ghost TV
Speaker 6: shows about Romania. Lots of lights in the woods, lots
Speaker 6: of really creepy stuff out there, you know, wolf man,
Speaker 6: all all sorts of crazy stuff man, right, And I
Speaker 6: think I was reading that there's uh, you know, pyramids
Speaker 6: that are just underneath forests inside of Hungary and Romania.
Speaker 6: So who knows how ancient that civilization could really go back?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 6: Is anybody really doing that kind of research if it
Speaker 6: doesn't fit into their paradigm?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 8: I can tell you the oldest vampire is mentioned in
Speaker 8: the Sumerian text by Samuel Noah Kramer, and it's because
Speaker 8: of Lilith too. Yep, exactly, you're right, dude, Me and
Speaker 8: you got to get together sometime, Yeah, I remember that book.
Speaker 5: At this I got to get that. I actually have that.
Speaker 6: It's from the second century AD.
Speaker 1: What's that.
Speaker 4: I still got to buy that book, but I want
Speaker 4: you to autograph it for me, even though you didn't.
Speaker 1: Right, what book?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 1: The Golden Ass?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, remember the two witches in the beginning they were vampires.
Speaker 4: New right, that's wild, that's wild.
Speaker 1: I got it, And.
Speaker 2: So I think you wrote that book.
Speaker 1: I just think that book. When we talk about vampires,
Speaker 1: we must realize that most of them are not for blood.
Speaker 1: They might use blood for other things, but they are
Speaker 1: not feeding of blood. They're feeding of energy. So they
Speaker 1: will be in horror or a movie theaters or in
Speaker 1: taking when there are so many people that say, oh,
Speaker 1: I've been with these people and it got me to
Speaker 1: completely drained, I don't understand. I feel completely drained. So
Speaker 1: these are these people that know how to extract. And
Speaker 1: I have several books that have energy. There's definitely initiation
Speaker 1: of this. Of this of the most respected higher echelons
Speaker 1: of they are all about energy.
Speaker 4: They are teaching you to like the ancient kind of
Speaker 4: the mythology of the vampires, especially like the slow vampires,
Speaker 4: like the ones from uh thirty Days of Night and.
Speaker 1: What's that other movie the other show, but they have
Speaker 1: like tales and stuff.
Speaker 4: They're called Peers.
Speaker 7: The new Netflix Legend Vampire series is really good, okay,
Speaker 7: or Dracula whatever it is. So, but now didn't also,
Speaker 7: didn't Saint Germaine have some sort of a mystical quality,
Speaker 7: almost like a mesmer kind of, you know, being able
Speaker 7: to enchant people on a certain level.
Speaker 1: He was very charming and he was taught to impress
Speaker 1: and his knowledge helped that, so you know, how to
Speaker 1: use words and enchant. It's like a Saramon character. He
Speaker 1: enchanted people with his voice what he has to say.
Speaker 1: In fact, I was about to read. So you get
Speaker 1: the small period of time between seventeen sixty and seventeen
Speaker 1: sixty two just what this man did. So in seventeen
Speaker 1: sixty Centchermin left France for the Hague in Holland. This
Speaker 1: was the height of the Seven Years War that had
Speaker 1: Holand as a neutral country, and it seems that Chairman
Speaker 1: was trying to use that to the adventures of his
Speaker 1: quest the creation of a monetary fund fund for France.
Speaker 1: But as I so, the verb of and agents was vast,
Speaker 1: and at this time he was thwarted by the Duke
Speaker 1: of Schwasoul. So the Duke of Schwasoul was the only
Speaker 1: real enemy that he had. It's the only contra agent
Speaker 1: that he found, that he knew who he was and
Speaker 1: was trying to kill him literally, So the Ducas was
Speaker 1: all that order his arrest on site. So Centchermain was
Speaker 1: forced to abandon his mission and escape, this time into London,
Speaker 1: aided by his influential friend, the Count bent Twick, the
Speaker 1: president of the Dutch Council of Deputy Commissions. Still in
Speaker 1: the same year. Upon arriving in London after fleeing Holland,
Speaker 1: Cenchermin was once again arrested and released, and during this
Speaker 1: short stay in England, Centmin published seven violin Solos seven.
Speaker 1: It was still seventeen sixty and Cinchermin decided to once
Speaker 1: more return to Paris, but this time he went secretly
Speaker 1: and unannounced, staying with the German Princess of hanald Zebst.
Speaker 1: She was an agent of mercenaries with England as her
Speaker 1: major client. Her daughter, Catherine the second, was forcefully married
Speaker 1: with Peter the Third of Russia, a marriage arranged by
Speaker 1: Frederick the Great of Prussia, the man that he taught
Speaker 1: this young girl to assassinate and take the whole Kingdom
Speaker 1: of Germany all united under her name. That's why she's
Speaker 1: known today. So two years later, in seventeen sixty two,
Speaker 1: Peter Desert took the Russian Tromp. Leading to this, Saint
Speaker 1: Germain immediately went to Saint Petersburg when he's keened, planned
Speaker 1: and succeeding in removing Peter Desert using the or Law
Speaker 1: family that are believed to have murdered Peter by strangling him,
Speaker 1: and thus established Cattering the Second as the Empress of Russia.
Speaker 1: She became known as Cattering the Great, ruling Russia for
Speaker 1: twenty nine years. I've said Germany, but it was them,
Speaker 1: It's Russia.
Speaker 6: So they said German over through the government of Russia.
Speaker 1: Yes day.
Speaker 8: Well I got a chance, Ricardo, when you said that
Speaker 8: vampires weren't about blood, you remember.
Speaker 11: I said no, no, no, no, no no no no no, no, no
Speaker 11: no no.
Speaker 8: What I was getting to was the fact that, you remember,
Speaker 8: blood is the visual representation of the draining of the body,
Speaker 8: of draining of the energy went your body. So that's
Speaker 8: probably where they get that's probably where they converted the idea.
Speaker 8: Because I think you're right it wasn't as necessarily blood
Speaker 8: because that's not how it was described about Lilith. It
Speaker 8: was more about the energy, taking somebody's energy. That's why
Speaker 8: she was in a tree. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, all of this kind of bibles that I have,
Speaker 1: they teach you exactly to do how to do that.
Speaker 1: That's the initiation process, right, and these people literally feed
Speaker 1: on that. But the thing is, ninety nine percent of
Speaker 1: the members of these co ops are just wannabes. They
Speaker 1: learn these techniques, but they are just humans. They have
Speaker 1: no special capability of living longer. They just can take
Speaker 1: energy from other people, right, But they are merely humans.
Speaker 8: Although, hey, isn't it isn't adrenochrome red?
Speaker 5: Also don't they talk about that too?
Speaker 8: Doesn't that bring into a whole different effect, because that
Speaker 8: isn't that like like something that a lot of people
Speaker 8: talk about. Is that adrenochrome and the energy and all
Speaker 8: this other stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, I think for the reasons, none of these books
Speaker 1: mentions what is required to extract the adrenochrome gland and
Speaker 1: to take some effect of it, which is literally showing
Speaker 1: it right after taking it. Yes, so, and the person
Speaker 1: that you take it from has to be scared to
Speaker 1: death in order to be as rich as possible. So
Speaker 1: you first have to be tortured and scared to death,
Speaker 1: and only then you're killed and that is extracted to
Speaker 1: be chewed by someone. But that doesn't rejuvenate you. It's
Speaker 1: just like a drug. It's a highly powerful drug that
Speaker 1: they believe allows them to communicate with these spirits and
Speaker 1: give them the directions or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 7: Right, So I've also read like the Mayan Pyramids when
Speaker 7: they would basically cut their hearts out, they were also
Speaker 7: taking the pineal gland and chewing on so they would
Speaker 7: scare them, you know, take their heart out in front
Speaker 7: of them. And then this was the whole process and
Speaker 7: they were you know, killing you know how many thousand
Speaker 7: people today?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, damn, that's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 7: As I've read it in a couple of places. As
Speaker 7: far as the viability, you know, is there, you.
Speaker 1: Know, they there are some some of those cultures that
Speaker 1: instead of using slaves, because that that invests an army
Speaker 1: that invests captured and invests certain amount of things. What
Speaker 1: they did is they chose girls at birth, and as
Speaker 1: soon as they are off the mother, they were taking underground,
Speaker 1: so they never see the daylight and they are yeah,
Speaker 1: and they are drugged until they reach some of these
Speaker 1: girls reach the age of fourteen.
Speaker 7: Years old and they only ever see moonlight.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, yes, thank you. And they are drugged to
Speaker 1: the day that they are sacrificed, and they are sacrificed
Speaker 1: when they are at the peak of doses. So they
Speaker 1: they really they never live in this realm. They are
Speaker 1: always completely out there because they they drugged them constantly.
Speaker 7: Wasn't there also some element that they kept them elevated
Speaker 7: off the earth. They could never touch the earth physically,
Speaker 7: otherwise it would spoil their purity.
Speaker 1: I think so the surface, Yes, they couldn't. That's why
Speaker 1: they take an underground.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right right.
Speaker 1: And they were well fed, much well fed, much better
Speaker 1: fed than the people on the surface, very much.
Speaker 2: Yes, uh Ricardo didn't he also this guy he say
Speaker 2: Jamaine didn't He also tried to end like a war,
Speaker 2: like didn't the Dutch want to arrest them or something
Speaker 2: like that. I saw it earlier. I didn't read it though,
Speaker 2: something about like I think he was trying to end
Speaker 2: the war in the Dutch door maybe like it was
Speaker 2: like shady that he went over to the other country
Speaker 2: because he was going over there to try to like
Speaker 2: work out, like to stop it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me read these two paragraphs. Because of
Speaker 1: his constant appearance as a guest on both sides of
Speaker 1: war nations, some suggest that he may be acting as
Speaker 1: a secret agent of King Louis the fourteenth of France
Speaker 1: when he went to India with Robert Clive. They can
Speaker 1: be excused to think so, for when Centerman returned to
Speaker 1: France in seventeen fifty eight, he was given an apartment
Speaker 1: in the French royal Palace of Chambo, but it did
Speaker 1: not end there. He was also given a laboratory what
Speaker 1: you're saying, laboratory facilities for his chemical and alchemical experience,
Speaker 1: in which the king himself, Louis the fourteen, sometimes participated.
Speaker 1: But in seventeen sixty, oh, this is what I that
Speaker 1: war was I just said about. So it's when he
Speaker 1: left France for Hague in Holland. But I don't think
Speaker 1: the war never happened as I recalled. So probably that's
Speaker 1: what you're mentioning. Where does it say, because the records
Speaker 1: that I have go from seventeen fifty Okay, let me
Speaker 1: see when it starts seventeen forty nine, forty five, forty three, Okay.
Speaker 2: So we have seven years war.
Speaker 11: It said the count it says, this is our the names.
Speaker 2: Upon himself to try to broke or piece between France
Speaker 2: and Britain.
Speaker 1: Now what I have from forty three is from official documents.
Speaker 1: We learned that Centerman was in England during the year
Speaker 1: seventeen forty three. He was playing Oh this is I
Speaker 1: was I read before he was playing the part of
Speaker 1: a gifted musician. I already mentioned this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about seventeen sixty.
Speaker 1: So seventeen sixty is is when he's trying to do that.
Speaker 1: That's what I was. I just described when he tried
Speaker 1: to do that in all Holland, the Duke of Schwassoul
Speaker 1: order his arrest on site. That's when he had to
Speaker 1: flee and abandon his.
Speaker 2: Plans, and then after that going over to he ends
Speaker 2: up like in Italy eventually after that too.
Speaker 1: Correct, So we stopped the description in skin Plants. Okay,
Speaker 1: between seventeen sixty three and seventeen sixty nine. So after
Speaker 1: he put Catherine the Great in power for Russia, Centerman
Speaker 1: was seldom seen, if at all. One of the few
Speaker 1: more or less certain places is in Berlin when he
Speaker 1: stayed for about a year as a guest of Friedrich
Speaker 1: August of Brunswick, and Brunswick is also an important name
Speaker 1: on all of this. It doesn't let me see there is.
Speaker 6: Continue go phantom Patriot. So when they were signing the
Speaker 6: Declaration of Independence, this weird character is sort of power
Speaker 6: into the room and then gave them sort of like
Speaker 6: a sermon before they all started to sign it. So
Speaker 6: you have that sort of Compety Saint Germaine type style
Speaker 6: going on with that. I mean, there is an astral projection,
Speaker 6: but he seems to be this guy that's always constantly
Speaker 6: changing history. Yeah, it's interesting about the Philadelphia area because
Speaker 6: that's tightly connected to this I Am cult. Right, So
Speaker 6: the I Am Cult was one of the first UFO
Speaker 6: cults and it was a guy who was up in
Speaker 6: the what's it called. There's this mountain, Mount Shasta in
Speaker 6: California where he was visited by Compety Saint Germaine. So
Speaker 6: he built a foundation out there in California called the
Speaker 6: Count Saint Jermaine Foundation, and in Philadelphia they also have
Speaker 6: another headquarters. And what's interesting about that is. It's it's
Speaker 6: in the Wissahickan Gorge, which is where the first settlers
Speaker 6: of the Woman in the Wilderness cult started out in
Speaker 6: that gorge where this guy would heal people using music.
Speaker 6: So it all sort of plays back into this Rosicrucion
Speaker 6: element because the Woman in the Wilderness became the Rosicrucians
Speaker 6: in America later on with the Beverly Hall. Yes, yes,
Speaker 6: that's that's an interesting connection with all the sort of
Speaker 6: eternal life stuff going on in Philadelphia.
Speaker 7: That story of the Unknown Patriot, if anybody wants to
Speaker 7: look into that, mainly p Hall talks about it, and
Speaker 7: it's also in an old book called the Folklore of America.
Speaker 7: And he just appears suddenly. He gives this great oratory
Speaker 7: speech to encourage everyone to rise against you know, the oppression,
Speaker 7: and they all signed and then he just disappears as
Speaker 7: fast as he you know, appears.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in seventeen seventy he returns to France because the
Speaker 1: Duke of Shrassoul has been disgraced and removes from power.
Speaker 1: So there's no prison order, so I have here. Although
Speaker 1: Center Man was most likely the most powerful and knowledgeable
Speaker 1: of all the high agents, of his time, he was
Speaker 1: but one, and in seventeen seventy four Louis the fifteenth
Speaker 1: died suddenly at the age of sixty four. His death
Speaker 1: was cause was reported as smallpox that he had not
Speaker 1: yet had in his young years. This could easily be
Speaker 1: contrived by opposing forces, expecting only that the prince heir
Speaker 1: was old enough to rule. Louis the sixteen was nineteen
Speaker 1: years old when he took the throne and with him
Speaker 1: the restoration of honor, status and power to the formerly
Speaker 1: disgrace Duke of Strassoul. So again center MC couldn't stay
Speaker 1: in France. So this made it impossible for center Man
Speaker 1: to stay in France and never opened returning to it.
Speaker 1: It's the last time he's seen there. Eleven days after
Speaker 1: Louis the fifteen deaths, we find Saint Germain in Germany,
Speaker 1: so he was quite quick to get there, and guests
Speaker 1: of no other than William the Nines of Hesse, the
Speaker 1: Prince who was to inherit the vast hence Cassel fortune.
Speaker 1: So there is this guy JG. Bornstat who was at
Speaker 1: that time also a guest in the roads. We were
Speaker 1: guests at the court of the Prince Hereditary William van
Speaker 1: Hansel Cassel, brother of Carl von Hunssen, at Hanau near Frankfurt.
Speaker 1: As we returned on the twenty first of May seventeen
Speaker 1: seventy four to the castle of Anaw, we found their
Speaker 1: Lord Cavendish and the Count of Saint Germain. They had
Speaker 1: come from Lausanne and were traveling to Cassel and Berlin.
Speaker 1: They're always on the move. So after this stay with
Speaker 1: Prince of the haus In, Prince and Tremel travel around Europe,
Speaker 1: staying in houses of renowned as the Margrave of Bradenburg
Speaker 1: and others. So here we start to see the end
Speaker 1: of his public life. And in seventeen seventy nine Saint
Speaker 1: Germain moved into the Prince Karl of hess home, who
Speaker 1: was a top leader of the strict observants. So this
Speaker 1: is a name that you, I think all of you
Speaker 1: know this being exacted. Was born in Germany and grew
Speaker 1: out later to what is known as Templarism. This is
Speaker 1: about seventeen twenty five. However, no great lodge was established
Speaker 1: till seventeen fifty two, and then we start to see
Speaker 1: his death. San Germain spent the last five years of
Speaker 1: his known life with Karl, and in seventeen eighty four,
Speaker 1: Saint Germain was reported to have died. Prince Charles, who
Speaker 1: appears to have regretted his death very sincerely, tells us
Speaker 1: that he fell sick while pursuing his experiments in colors
Speaker 1: at Eckenford, Germany, and died shortly after, despite innumeral medicaments
Speaker 1: prepared by his own private apothicary, and the church register
Speaker 1: of Eckenford contains this entry. The cists on February the
Speaker 1: twenty seventh buried on March the second, seventeen eighty four,
Speaker 1: the so called Count of Saint Germain and Weldon. Further
Speaker 1: information not known was privately deposited in this church. So
Speaker 1: most people think that this death was faked. And for instance,
Speaker 1: you have this quote for the Baron E. H. Gleisian
Speaker 1: and his Memories, published in eighteen sixty eight, wrote, I
Speaker 1: have heard Rameau and an old relative of a French
Speaker 1: ambassador at Venice testified to having known Saint Germain in
Speaker 1: seventeen ten, when he had the appearance of a man
Speaker 1: of fifty years of age. So this immediately goes makes
Speaker 1: him older than he says A German mysical magazine published
Speaker 1: in eighteen fifty seven. Magazine derbush Fewer. I can't read
Speaker 1: this is German, I can read this stated that Centermin
Speaker 1: was once the French representatives of the seventeen eighty five
Speaker 1: Masonic convention in Paris. So one year after he reported death,
Speaker 1: came to cesare that may some may know. In his
Speaker 1: work Glee et Ecchi Italia stated that Centerman was present
Speaker 1: at the famous Wilmsbad Masonic conference that was held in
Speaker 1: seventeen eighty five. The Countess of Adamar, a member of
Speaker 1: the French Court, who wrote to her Memories short after
Speaker 1: shortly before her death in eighteen twenty two, reported seeing
Speaker 1: Saint Germain many times after his supposed death, as always
Speaker 1: during times of upheaval. She claimed that Centermin had sent
Speaker 1: warnings the King and Queen of France, regardless of their
Speaker 1: lack of animosity with Luis the sixteen and Marie Antoniette,
Speaker 1: of their danger in the upcoming French Revolution, which occurred
Speaker 1: in seventeen eighty nine. She also claimed that he saw
Speaker 1: him in seventeen ninety three, eighteen oh four, and eighteen
Speaker 1: thirteen and eighteen twenty. So I could go on and on,
Speaker 1: because he keeps being seen, but it's obvious that, for instance,
Speaker 1: one of the wise men that knows him said that
Speaker 1: Saint Chamain was an amazing man and like so many
Speaker 1: others of his caliber, he forgotten not to die, which
Speaker 1: means to be taken out of seeing and go underground.
Speaker 7: Now, Also, isn't there some relation in regard to the
Speaker 7: hidden Masters that he is considered to be one of
Speaker 7: these hidden masters that is kind of maybe behind the
Speaker 7: scenes of like I don't know, like Madame Levotsky talks
Speaker 7: about the hidden Mask, he descended masters that are basically
Speaker 7: directing the the you know, general force of where the
Speaker 7: world and it's you know, it's going per se.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that he would become one of those
Speaker 1: masters in section right, at least in succession, because he
Speaker 1: was one of the best of his.
Speaker 7: Kind and that's what he was already doing. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, well, since I got time, I was going
Speaker 8: to ask, do you guys think of it, like how
Speaker 8: some people think like Tupac is still alive and Elvis
Speaker 8: is still alive. Do you think that kind of plays
Speaker 8: into it with it? Because you know, the influcts that
Speaker 8: they had on people too.
Speaker 7: It's interesting because when you look you know how, you've
Speaker 7: seen those photos from the Civil War and it's like
Speaker 7: Nicholas Cage and it's like John Travolta. Well, yeah, so
Speaker 7: it is very interesting to think in those terms for sure.
Speaker 8: Like like a doppling Ganger. This is a show called Evil.
Speaker 8: It's actually a very good show. I don't know if
Speaker 8: you guys ever seen it, but it's basically everything that
Speaker 8: we talk about. It's basically everything that we talk about.
Speaker 8: Like it's like the occult thing. They're trying to figure
Speaker 8: out whether it's religion, whether it's scientific, or whether it's
Speaker 8: any something in between.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 5: They have an expert in each realm, so.
Speaker 8: They go through, yeah, exactly, and they go through and
Speaker 8: it's a very good show. In one of the episodes,
Speaker 8: they they were talking about you know uh how, And
Speaker 8: this is interesting because hopefully this would be the first
Speaker 8: time we have ever talked.
Speaker 5: About they're building a program.
Speaker 8: There was a program on that show where you could
Speaker 8: look for your Doppler gang or somebody that looks like
Speaker 8: you across the world. So think of Facebook, Twitter, x
Speaker 8: and all these other social medias where everybody has a
Speaker 8: picture and the picture is already online. Well, you can
Speaker 8: go that the program was able for you to find
Speaker 8: somebody that looks similar like you, and that's the last
Speaker 8: living and the like that they're living, right, whether they
Speaker 8: was a good person a bad person, where basically it
Speaker 8: could be the the god and devil, uh that the
Speaker 8: good and the bad, the evil and the and all
Speaker 8: that other stuff where you can see you. You may
Speaker 8: think you're a good person, but then you've seen somebody
Speaker 8: that's living a better lifestyle, doing better than you. You're
Speaker 8: you're a poor person, but the person that looks like you,
Speaker 8: exactly like you is absolutely rich.
Speaker 5: Right. And there's been some revisions.
Speaker 8: Or vice versas exactly, and there's been plenty of shows
Speaker 8: that that talked about this, but this is where sight
Speaker 8: This is what I was talking about that.
Speaker 4: There's one one movie called, uh, what was it called?
Speaker 4: I think it was directed by that uh, the same
Speaker 4: guy that did Get Out, Jordan Peel. Jordan Peel. Yeah,
Speaker 4: us was that the movie?
Speaker 2: Or yeah?
Speaker 8: I think you're talking about us?
Speaker 4: Yeah, where fucking doppelgangers underground?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that that was Yeah, that was I was just
Speaker 8: watching that the other day.
Speaker 4: Shadow cells that were created when they were children or
Speaker 4: something that like they end up coming out and killing
Speaker 4: them because you know there there's theories that that that's
Speaker 4: what you know that could be is when you shed
Speaker 4: your shadow self, it it forms or something in the
Speaker 4: world somewhere.
Speaker 1: A question to all of you. So, how about the
Speaker 1: notion that there is only a limited although it seems
Speaker 1: almost limited, There is only a limited uh template range
Speaker 1: of templates? Right, yes, and the templates can only get
Speaker 1: certain variations that increases the differences, but not by that much. Right,
Speaker 1: So could that be the case instead of we're talking about, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's a coincidence it looks exactly like me. No, it's
Speaker 1: because there is so many people at certain points when
Speaker 1: the population reached certain numbers. I don't believe in overpopulation. Okay,
Speaker 1: before someone thinks that I do. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people in certain concentrated points, but there's way
Speaker 1: are far from being over poppus related. We'll never reach
Speaker 1: there because genetics doesn't allow it. But it might be
Speaker 1: because there is only a certain number of templates. Instead
Speaker 1: of because it's a coincidence that we look alike, it's
Speaker 1: because of a technical issue.
Speaker 7: Right with the possibilities of the DNA is.
Speaker 1: Because look at the other animals. It's easy to get
Speaker 1: equal animals even in that we are completely different, completely
Speaker 1: different from the rest of of the the animal kingdom.
Speaker 7: So still still can't find the missing link.
Speaker 1: They will never find it because one thing is a monkey,
Speaker 1: another thing is a genetically modified hybrid.
Speaker 2: So did you did you have anything else on him?
Speaker 2: Uh Ricardo?
Speaker 1: So after his death, there's.
Speaker 2: One thing I did want to mention, just real, real quick.
Speaker 2: You know, he was kind of influential in theosophy. Blavotsky,
Speaker 2: the founder of the Theosophal Theosophical whatever getting at Yeah,
Speaker 2: she said the Count of Saint Jermaine was the greatest
Speaker 2: Oriental adapt to Europe has seen during the last centuries.
Speaker 2: She included Saint Germaine among her masters of wisdom, enlightened
Speaker 2: the beings guiding humanity. Theosophists speculated that Saint Germaine never died,
Speaker 2: but ascended to a higher plane. They sometimes call him
Speaker 2: a Master Racoxi or something like that, or Master r
Speaker 2: I wanted to read this one headless was here, connecting
Speaker 2: him to the Hungarian princely line hung I.
Speaker 4: Think she wore a cape because of him, because he
Speaker 4: wore a cape. Pretty sure.
Speaker 7: Wow, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I have I have more words from Madame Blavatski go
Speaker 1: for And now we ask what shadow of proof is
Speaker 1: Erin afforded, either that Centerman was an adventurer, that he
Speaker 1: meant to play the part of a prodigy, or that
Speaker 1: he sought to make money out of dukes. Not one
Speaker 1: single sign is there of his being other than what
Speaker 1: he seemed vis a vis a possessor of ample means
Speaker 1: to support honestly is standing in society. And he claimed
Speaker 1: to know how to infuse small diamonds into large ones
Speaker 1: and to transmute metals, and backed his assertions by the
Speaker 1: possession of apparently boundless wells and the collection of jewels
Speaker 1: of rare size and beauty. Our adventures like this do
Speaker 1: Charlatans enjoy the confidence and the admiration of the cleverest
Speaker 1: statesmans and nobles of Europe for long years, and not
Speaker 1: even at their deaths, showing one thing that they were undeserving.
Speaker 1: So this is what I had from her about him.
Speaker 1: He was completely sure that he was exactly what he
Speaker 1: claimed to be, a very savant at almost all things,
Speaker 1: including alchemy.
Speaker 2: Right he uh The theosophical literature even styled him the Chohan.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that Cohen or the seventh Rae. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: spiritual overseer of the coming age of aquariusriest within.
Speaker 1: H.
Speaker 2: So they here's who's a pimp over there.
Speaker 8: Somebody asked if he had a grade? Do any of
Speaker 8: you guys know? I'm sorry they said, I was just asking.
Speaker 8: Somebody asked in the comment section, does he have a grave?
Speaker 8: Does anybody know of a known gray side of him?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just mentioned it. We just mentioned it, but
Speaker 1: I can I can repeat it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I don't know if they got the
Speaker 8: uh got it or not?
Speaker 5: Why you say it?
Speaker 2: Let me go to the desk at least, what were
Speaker 2: we gonna say?
Speaker 9: I was looking with that no, just really quickly, because
Speaker 9: y'all were mentioning that term talking about a high priests
Speaker 9: and Judaism. Didn't he come didn't win their claim that
Speaker 9: he was an Alsatian Jew?
Speaker 2: They did, I was reading in the notes. They did
Speaker 2: question him as being the wandering Jew.
Speaker 9: Possibly maybe that's why so Alsace was a point of
Speaker 9: contention in the First World War. France wanted Alsace back
Speaker 9: and so and Germany also wanted it as well, But
Speaker 9: it was in regard to your European You know this
Speaker 9: better than I do. But wasn't that that area a
Speaker 9: high point of contention between France and Germany during World
Speaker 9: War One?
Speaker 1: I believe so, I believe. So what pleased the stage
Speaker 1: of many negotiations? I believe so.
Speaker 9: That was my only contributions.
Speaker 1: So the people that ask the church that has the
Speaker 1: register is the church of ekeen Ford, So that's where
Speaker 1: his grave supposedly is inside the church. There is pictures
Speaker 1: online of the church. I found them, so it's it's
Speaker 1: easy to find. Just just put the church where or
Speaker 1: Saint Jermain is buried and in.
Speaker 4: Country in homeostasis.
Speaker 1: Well, I never no one opened the the grave, so
Speaker 1: it's hard to say, well, if anything is in there,
Speaker 1: which I doubt.
Speaker 7: So what country was is his graving?
Speaker 4: Let me go back, Sorry, guys, we're going to find
Speaker 4: Saint Germain's grave.
Speaker 7: Seem he's got a little philosopher's stone.
Speaker 4: In this podcast, dude, or if he just like remains
Speaker 4: turned into a bunch of just loss.
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, eck and Ford is in Germany, Okay, sack
Speaker 1: and Ford E c K E N F O R
Speaker 1: d E back and forth. In Germany. I was just
Speaker 1: going before. I don't know if we for long enough.
Speaker 1: I was just going to show the triangular book that
Speaker 1: we spoke about.
Speaker 2: What is this.
Speaker 1: Fare screen is much easier, so window is Oh, then
Speaker 1: I will have to share the entire screen. So this
Speaker 1: is the triangular book that some say he kept but
Speaker 1: not wrote. Other says that he wrote. He has a
Speaker 1: seventy six on the cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, and to downward facing triangle symbolizing water or
Speaker 3: the feminine right.
Speaker 1: So this is the quotation that I read, right, It
Speaker 1: was given by the Sapiens count of centerment to the
Speaker 1: order of the of the museum itself. So this is
Speaker 1: the writing.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that looks like Atlantean or Hyperborean. And I
Speaker 7: was just looking. Actually Crowley he did actually uh talk
Speaker 7: about Saint Germain, and he's he was well aware of him,
Speaker 7: and he said he even toyed with the idea opposing
Speaker 7: as him.
Speaker 4: Send this to me, Rick Hard, send for sure.
Speaker 8: That looks like a mixture of all kinds of languages Arabic, foreign.
Speaker 5: Uh, Judaic, uh.
Speaker 4: Greek and hieroglyphics almost hieroglyphics.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it looks like a mixture of all kinds of languages.
Speaker 8: I even seen some cuneiform in there. If I was
Speaker 8: mistaken on us.
Speaker 1: Look look at this one here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's that right there, X marks the spot.
Speaker 8: Look at all those. That's the other thing. That X
Speaker 8: is a lot of exes. Even even within stuff, there's exes.
Speaker 8: If you look at it, there's an X within an X.
Speaker 8: It's crazy.
Speaker 5: This is this is freaking crazy.
Speaker 7: It could be hytoography. It could be.
Speaker 9: Coaching photo of the exact writing.
Speaker 1: Sorry I didn't get the screens.
Speaker 8: Let me screenshot this in ax chat GPT.
Speaker 5: What it says real quick?
Speaker 7: Nice.
Speaker 1: Well. The question about these kind of alphabets is this
Speaker 1: is that as as we all know, this Alchemist's right,
Speaker 1: they they created their own language. Yes, very hard to
Speaker 1: crack because they are not to generally use system.
Speaker 7: It's unique, it's coded.
Speaker 9: The reason that I say this is because it looks
Speaker 9: like a mirror script.
Speaker 7: H yeah.
Speaker 9: And if it is mirror script, that's something totally different.
Speaker 8: I am allowed to get my money's worth out. It
Speaker 8: is down twenty dollars a month for chesh EPT. Because
Speaker 8: I'm gonna ask you.
Speaker 12: It looks in the schedules that's saying yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 12: that's the Adepts are into the mirror script.
Speaker 7: That's the star milk cheese a deck up at the top.
Speaker 4: You're right, dude, go back up.
Speaker 7: And you got the horns up and the horns down.
Speaker 7: That's kind of mythraic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very.
Speaker 5: This right here.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I know I'm fucking twin peaks. But it
Speaker 4: looks like the sign for Judy that's on the ring
Speaker 4: that they put on in the movie and it takes them.
Speaker 2: To the oh Ship. Yeah, you know that's on the ring.
Speaker 2: Holy fuck, the.
Speaker 4: One on the left especially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's upside down actually looks better, right, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: is that image.
Speaker 5: Ricardo, send me this, to send me this too.
Speaker 1: Bro put this in the group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let it say.
Speaker 8: Jackchi Pt said that it's in a cult abercadab abracadabra
Speaker 8: emulate written in a ceremonial cipher alphabet the theban or
Speaker 8: honor in style. It's it's laid out in the classic
Speaker 8: inverted triangle charm. You write abracadabra on the first line,
Speaker 8: then drop the first letter each and then you go
Speaker 8: all the way down to the les letter.
Speaker 5: I guess you could say.
Speaker 7: So much wider than your standard standard ever to the ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, also there's more, there's more symbols in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I think I don't. I don't even think of it.
Speaker 8: I don't even think it really knew. I think it
Speaker 8: was just trying to give me somebody.
Speaker 7: I mean, is it does look like based based off
Speaker 7: what it's got. That's probably all I can tell you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's not a bad guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You have to remember this is a person that spoke
Speaker 1: fluently like plenty languages. Right.
Speaker 8: I said that it's a mixture of different languages because
Speaker 8: of the simple fact of you, because you can look
Speaker 8: at it and tell that it's different languages. But it's
Speaker 8: also a pictographic type also, which you can fit enough
Speaker 8: information in just.
Speaker 5: That that that triangle by itself with Yes, but he was.
Speaker 1: He was clever enough to even, for instance, in here
Speaker 1: you see an ass. But he could on his own memory,
Speaker 1: the ass represents the letter that the show so and
Speaker 1: and d l another and and this another and so on.
Speaker 1: So it's very hard to crack, very hard to crack, right, Right.
Speaker 2: It could be. It's probably ciphered, obviously.
Speaker 1: I assure you. If this could be cracked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bitch, that looks like something out of Agrippa's books.
Speaker 2: You know, all those different languages they got in there, right,
Speaker 2: It's none of those places.
Speaker 1: Are unknown because they are known most of them. Is
Speaker 1: that because we don't know what they need? And then
Speaker 1: there is no spaces, right, we don't know where it starts,
Speaker 1: where it ends, if it is to be read like this,
Speaker 1: or read like this, or read from up to bottom
Speaker 1: to up or or up down. It's it's it's extremely complicated.
Speaker 1: I was just saying, if there is any more drawings, no,
Speaker 1: the end of the book.
Speaker 2: Yes, nice, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 5: That is that like?
Speaker 8: Is that like the glossary or index?
Speaker 2: Go back?
Speaker 4: Was that like the cipher?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 8: It is the cipher. It's short of it is. No,
Speaker 8: it is that is that's telling you what everything is?
Speaker 2: Yo?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Is it in English? Trench? Is it in That's interesting?
Speaker 1: I didn't remember that I had this.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that definitely is the cipher right there. That's
Speaker 5: telling you everything.
Speaker 8: Whats like if you look at the first one, a,
Speaker 8: it's what it tells you. The sixth one steah, yep
Speaker 8: see so everything with the six pointed star is in
Speaker 8: a you know, yeah, so oh hell yeah, man, you
Speaker 8: I'm about to break this ship down.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, push that in the group chat.
Speaker 8: Hey, I just want to give a ten minutes to
Speaker 8: two hour show. Just want to let you know, Nick,
Speaker 8: I don't know, I know you you're yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: This book.
Speaker 1: Oh this is the guy that coded it.
Speaker 8: Ah, oh ship, we don't find out. Oh yeah, he
Speaker 8: send me. Make sure you send me that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: You know, when I look into a subject, I do
Speaker 1: grab everything I can find. Sometimes watch it all.
Speaker 9: The three dots in the triangle.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Hey, there's a line that says right here. It says,
Speaker 8: there follows the cipher script written in gold, blue and red.
Speaker 8: I want to say, it's uh, go back, go back up.
Speaker 8: You scroll down on me? Sorry, oh ship, where was it?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 8: Yeah, so it's not One two three is the fourth
Speaker 8: para paragraph.
Speaker 5: There follows the script written.
Speaker 1: In gold, blue and red. The key to the cipher
Speaker 1: is supplied, and this includes a list of the names
Speaker 1: of the demons that are invoked.
Speaker 8: I'm about to get on it, boy. You don't hook
Speaker 8: me up.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Usually in manuscripts of this time, the names of the
Speaker 1: demons are never transliterated. These manuscripts come from the famous
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, something of ocult.
Speaker 7: So are these the barbarous names that they speak of?
Speaker 8: Well, that's what it says right there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, you know, there you go. And those you
Speaker 7: can't Well that's the thing. You can write them down,
Speaker 7: but you have to learn how to enunciate them in
Speaker 7: order for them to work.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's yeah, like the Book of Dead. And what
Speaker 8: is the other one? The Emerald tap is that some
Speaker 8: people say if you read it as about seventy sometimes
Speaker 8: if you read it seventy times and pronounce the words correctly,
Speaker 8: that something magical is supposed to happen.
Speaker 7: To you, well, it'll put you into a state of somebodi.
Speaker 7: If you read the full Emerald tablets.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you got to do it seventy times, though I
Speaker 8: think it's specifically like seventy. Some times, well I'm on
Speaker 8: like forty or fifty, unlike I'm on like forty three
Speaker 8: right now.
Speaker 7: But it comes becomes very much a mantra then at
Speaker 7: that point, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: This is also interesting. The name of counter San Germaine
Speaker 1: is familiar to all students of magic and the occult arts.
Speaker 1: Is well known that he came to Paris at the
Speaker 1: time of Louis the fifteen and founded in that city
Speaker 1: a lodge of occult mansary, the forerunner of similar lodges
Speaker 1: founded later by his friend and pupile, Pupil cagliostro Is
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and these parish lodges, when you're looking at this
Speaker 7: time period, they were very occult. They were experimenting with
Speaker 7: a lot of these different Mesopotamian canaan I kind of
Speaker 7: Battaloneian type.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, raft fifte Yeah yeah.
Speaker 8: I was just about to say that.
Speaker 4: You know, Je was the fifty fifty names of my wife.
Speaker 4: I'm an acronomic on away. Probably better off for it.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: We got kids, Yeah, I guess that that.
Speaker 8: That's that was interesting.
Speaker 5: That was interesting. It was very wild book.
Speaker 7: So that led to some good little.
Speaker 1: This is the group chat Center mon Angler book or
Speaker 1: the Triangle book.
Speaker 4: Okay, if you have the PDF or CARDO I.
Speaker 1: Have, so I took the scans from from from the book.
Speaker 7: Now he set up a lodge of masonry. The other
Speaker 7: thing we have to notice here is that the shape
Speaker 7: of the trunck angle with the white background, it emulates
Speaker 7: the Masonic apron as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about that. Yeah when I saw
Speaker 2: that or yeah envelope, Yeah yeah, I thought that. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, there's the Masonic.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think we'll wrap it up here if you guys
Speaker 2: don't mind. I know, Jewels has gotta get going.
Speaker 4: I just had to set up the stream for the morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Riccardo, thank you very much, man. I
Speaker 2: appreciate your show. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: I just hope I didn't overlap too much over.
Speaker 2: What it was. Perfect, perfect, Thank you sir. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was great with that book.
Speaker 1: So it was all on the script. Keep the best
Speaker 1: for the for the for the end of the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, right, I like it. I like it. As
Speaker 2: we wrap it up, we'll have everybody plug that show again, Jules.
Speaker 2: Let everybody know what's going on where they can find
Speaker 2: all your amazing work. Please.
Speaker 4: Thank you Nick for hosting this tonight. This is actually
Speaker 4: when I first started my show two years ago. This
Speaker 4: was one of the first topics that I wanted to cover.
Speaker 4: I never got around to it because I didn't know
Speaker 4: anybody who could talk about it. So thank you Ricardo,
Speaker 4: thank you headless all you guys. This was a great show.
Speaker 4: If y'all want to find me, you can follow me
Speaker 4: on x at Great pill Pod, YouTube rumble. I was
Speaker 4: gonna say, I don't know. I think we're doing the
Speaker 4: Esotery book review in the morning on our Patreon, Patreon
Speaker 4: dot com slash Great pil Podcast, and then I don't
Speaker 4: know if I'm doing another show tomorrow.
Speaker 1: May.
Speaker 4: I may be able to make the one that we're doing,
Speaker 4: but if not, I think I'm going to try to
Speaker 4: schedule one Sunday for our think me and Headless are
Speaker 4: going to do the Green Man and nick Yl I'll
Speaker 4: definitely you know about that, and then for all my patrons,
Speaker 4: twin Peaks Sunday night, we'll do that Sunday night. I
Speaker 4: had dental surgery so my mouth will feel better by then.
Speaker 4: But yeah, awesome show. Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 13: Thank thank you for the idea. Yeah, man, the whole list,
Speaker 13: Like I said, yeah, that was great.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Robbie Marx. Please let everybody know what's up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wanted to say thanks for having me on.
Speaker 7: It's always great to hang out and talk about this
Speaker 7: stuff every and it's just it's so great how everyone
Speaker 7: has something so prescient. Uh, to say as the conversation
Speaker 7: is moving and we're all kind of just contributing to this, uh,
Speaker 7: this blossoming of this beautiful you know thing. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm our Marx artist illustrator. If you want to find
Speaker 7: my other stuff, you can go to my link tree,
Speaker 7: which is link tree our Marx r M A r
Speaker 7: X and that'll pull up everything for you. So thanks
Speaker 7: for everything, of.
Speaker 2: Course, Thank you Robbie, appreciate you coming here, man and Tyrone.
Speaker 2: What is going on, sir? Please let everybody know what
Speaker 2: is well.
Speaker 8: Hey, I appreciate it one hundred percent. I'm about to
Speaker 8: do some dig diving in the next few hours. Thank
Speaker 8: you for the presentation from both you, Ricardo and Nick.
Speaker 8: I appreciate it. I appreciate everybody in here. You can
Speaker 8: find everything on me on my website Rebirth at theWord
Speaker 8: dot com, and you can get my book Journey through
Speaker 8: the Origins of History on Amazon, which went to a bestseller.
Speaker 5: Appreciate anybody, thank you.
Speaker 2: For making it nice. And Ricardo please, sir.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, thank you for having me and
Speaker 1: to all of you for another wonderful conversation. And again,
Speaker 1: if people can find me on x on Ricardo Calvary
Speaker 1: one as it is in the screen. I forgot to
Speaker 1: plug in the Great show Universe and veil that. I
Speaker 1: I suggest everyone to go and check on and the
Speaker 1: Institute for Natal Philosophy of course that you can find
Speaker 1: any for not philosopy dot org. And that's all. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much for having me.
Speaker 2: Nick, of course, thank you. I really appreciate everything. Again,
Speaker 2: like you said that you brought to the show, I
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And last but not Lis Lisa, what is
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 9: Thank you for inviting me. Sorry I had to about
Speaker 9: for a while my cat threw up, so anyway, but
Speaker 9: I will be hearing the replay because Recardo, I think
Speaker 9: you did an extensive work on Sandermin and I am
Speaker 9: very interested in this topic, especially how he kind of
Speaker 9: dips into some of the most important European moments in history,
Speaker 9: and so thank you for your presentation. It was very
Speaker 9: extensive and very thorough. So I'm very much Yeah, the
Speaker 9: replay and Robbie, Jules and ty run y'all always could
Speaker 9: read so much, So thank you for having me. And
Speaker 9: I'm headless as well, who is not here with you?
Speaker 4: She had a bit about early Hey, guys, I really
Speaker 4: wanted to plug something real fast. My wife, she started
Speaker 4: up her podcast or the idea for it, a little
Speaker 4: less than a year ago. We did a few episodes.
Speaker 4: She's been on a bunch of my live streams with me.
Speaker 4: She she loves these kinds of conversations. She just dropped
Speaker 4: her first episode Babelonde podcast. Uh you can find it
Speaker 4: on Rumble and YouTube, and she has episode two that
Speaker 4: she's about to drop here in a couple of days.
Speaker 4: So it's really really good ship, really philosophical.
Speaker 2: How was that spelled?
Speaker 4: Babe blonde b A B E l O N like
Speaker 4: babylon but babe blonde. She's my wife's hot.
Speaker 1: What can I say?
Speaker 4: It's our twelve year anniversary tomorrow.
Speaker 7: So uh yeah, yeah, man, congratulations.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately I just had dental surgery.
Speaker 1: I mo hot mess.
Speaker 4: I don't think I can be sexy at all for her,
Speaker 4: so all right, yeah, it'll still be a fun day.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll still have a good time anyway.
Speaker 2: Pink still working, all right.
Speaker 4: I see you guys in the morning, though. Man, this
Speaker 4: was a great show tonight.
Speaker 2: Sure I forgot did we actually did we? Lisa? Did
Speaker 2: you wrap everything up? You've done yeah, I'm done. Okay,
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember where we left wife. Actually, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much everybody. I appreciate that
Speaker 2: everybody in the chat, that's what's up. There was a
Speaker 2: lot of people here. I really appreciate that. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff being said in there. That's what's up.
Speaker 2: I could see both both ends. I appreciate it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I appreciate everybody coming onto the show and until
Speaker 2: the next one, everybody be well later